1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:04,040 Speaker 1: For the first time in probably seventeen hundred years, Christians 2 00:00:04,120 --> 00:00:08,119 Speaker 1: around the world will not be permitted to celebrate Easter 3 00:00:08,520 --> 00:00:12,040 Speaker 1: in public. What is a country founded on religious liberty 4 00:00:12,119 --> 00:00:16,040 Speaker 1: supposed to do when the government locks the churches? This 5 00:00:16,120 --> 00:00:25,520 Speaker 1: is Verdict with Ted Cruz. Welcome back to Verdict with 6 00:00:25,560 --> 00:00:29,480 Speaker 1: Ted Cruz and Happy Easter. I'm Michael Knowles, Senator. Sorry, 7 00:00:29,520 --> 00:00:32,199 Speaker 1: we can't be a celebrating today together or at a 8 00:00:32,240 --> 00:00:37,360 Speaker 1: safe social distance. I think I am not exaggerating here 9 00:00:37,400 --> 00:00:40,600 Speaker 1: when I say this might be the first time since 10 00:00:40,640 --> 00:00:44,479 Speaker 1: the Diocletian Persecution that Christians have not been able to 11 00:00:44,520 --> 00:00:48,159 Speaker 1: go to their churches on Easter. Is that an exaggeration? Well, 12 00:00:48,240 --> 00:00:50,559 Speaker 1: you know, I gotta say it is so commonplace to 13 00:00:50,600 --> 00:00:54,520 Speaker 1: have podcasts talking about the Diocletian Persecution. I mean, I 14 00:00:54,560 --> 00:00:56,640 Speaker 1: mean it really I'm worried that we're going to run 15 00:00:56,640 --> 00:01:01,800 Speaker 1: into the traffic online. That's true, stright through the roof, right. 16 00:01:02,280 --> 00:01:04,400 Speaker 1: We you and I have never seen anything like this 17 00:01:04,440 --> 00:01:08,280 Speaker 1: in our lifetimes. And it's you know, all of us 18 00:01:08,319 --> 00:01:12,120 Speaker 1: were doing everything from home. Yeah, and whether that's church, 19 00:01:12,200 --> 00:01:16,000 Speaker 1: whether that's work, whether that's time with the family, it 20 00:01:16,080 --> 00:01:19,960 Speaker 1: has good aspects to it, and it also makes people 21 00:01:20,000 --> 00:01:22,679 Speaker 1: pretty stir crazy. This, I think is the big issue 22 00:01:22,720 --> 00:01:25,160 Speaker 1: for people. I think for a while, people like taking 23 00:01:25,160 --> 00:01:27,720 Speaker 1: a few days off work. Obviously that got real old, 24 00:01:27,760 --> 00:01:30,520 Speaker 1: real fast when people lost their jobs. I think people 25 00:01:30,560 --> 00:01:33,240 Speaker 1: actually for the first few days of this shutdown, we're 26 00:01:33,319 --> 00:01:35,959 Speaker 1: kind of excited. It was something new, it was dangerous. 27 00:01:36,120 --> 00:01:38,319 Speaker 1: Maybe we were all going to band together again. That 28 00:01:38,440 --> 00:01:41,039 Speaker 1: kind of got real old, real fast. The one thing 29 00:01:41,080 --> 00:01:43,959 Speaker 1: that I think was always a sticking point was the churches. 30 00:01:44,240 --> 00:01:48,280 Speaker 1: The government closing down the churches. To my mind, that's 31 00:01:48,400 --> 00:01:52,320 Speaker 1: unprecedented in the United States. Is that what you're hearing 32 00:01:52,360 --> 00:01:54,080 Speaker 1: and seeing as well? I mean, is that just a 33 00:01:54,080 --> 00:01:58,360 Speaker 1: different category. Look, it's a hard challenge because if you have, 34 00:01:58,560 --> 00:02:02,520 Speaker 1: as we do, a pandemic, a public health outbreak, there 35 00:02:02,640 --> 00:02:08,680 Speaker 1: is precedent for quarantining laws, there's precedent for preventing large gatherings. 36 00:02:09,120 --> 00:02:13,200 Speaker 1: You know, I will say it, in this time of crisis, 37 00:02:13,960 --> 00:02:16,239 Speaker 1: you know, people's real character comes out, who they are 38 00:02:16,360 --> 00:02:19,760 Speaker 1: comes out. And I got to say, some of these 39 00:02:19,840 --> 00:02:25,639 Speaker 1: democratic politicians are just jackbooted thugs. I mean, they're authoritarians 40 00:02:26,120 --> 00:02:28,960 Speaker 1: that they believe in the power of the state. So 41 00:02:29,080 --> 00:02:31,960 Speaker 1: you know, bild de Blasio, mayor of New York. Now, 42 00:02:31,960 --> 00:02:33,800 Speaker 1: listen to New York has got it worse than than 43 00:02:33,840 --> 00:02:36,959 Speaker 1: anywhere else in the country. It is horrific, the deaths 44 00:02:36,960 --> 00:02:39,080 Speaker 1: that have happened there, the infections, people are scared. I 45 00:02:39,120 --> 00:02:42,280 Speaker 1: get all of that. But de Blasio said, listen, if 46 00:02:42,280 --> 00:02:45,520 Speaker 1: any church or synagogue meets, we're going to come after 47 00:02:45,600 --> 00:02:49,800 Speaker 1: you and we will permanently shut you down. Now, who 48 00:02:49,800 --> 00:02:52,359 Speaker 1: the hell are you to permanently shut a church or 49 00:02:52,440 --> 00:02:55,240 Speaker 1: synagogue then? And I actually understand saying okay, you can't 50 00:02:55,280 --> 00:02:57,440 Speaker 1: have a public gathering. You know what my church is doing. 51 00:02:57,440 --> 00:03:01,400 Speaker 1: We're meeting virtually. Yeah, I think that actually makes good sense. 52 00:03:02,120 --> 00:03:09,320 Speaker 1: But you see some of these political leaders just eager 53 00:03:09,360 --> 00:03:12,880 Speaker 1: to strip away liberty and they seem to have a real, 54 00:03:13,080 --> 00:03:15,679 Speaker 1: real animosity to faith. That's right if you if you 55 00:03:15,800 --> 00:03:18,240 Speaker 1: look at New York. I mean, that's exactly the right 56 00:03:18,280 --> 00:03:20,679 Speaker 1: example where it's not de Blasio saying we're going to 57 00:03:20,760 --> 00:03:24,080 Speaker 1: shut you down for the whole of this pandemic. You 58 00:03:24,120 --> 00:03:26,200 Speaker 1: are not going to be allowed back into your building, 59 00:03:26,240 --> 00:03:28,880 Speaker 1: pastor until afterwards. But that's not where they stopped it. 60 00:03:28,880 --> 00:03:31,280 Speaker 1: They actually said we will permanently shut you down. And 61 00:03:31,440 --> 00:03:34,960 Speaker 1: he actually singled out churches and synagogues. He didn't go 62 00:03:35,000 --> 00:03:37,480 Speaker 1: after any other faith groups. He just went after churches 63 00:03:37,680 --> 00:03:40,960 Speaker 1: and synagogues. How convenient. You know. It's not just de 64 00:03:41,040 --> 00:03:44,400 Speaker 1: Blasio though. It's going on around the country and even 65 00:03:44,440 --> 00:03:46,560 Speaker 1: for the people. I know a lot of conservatives where 66 00:03:46,600 --> 00:03:49,800 Speaker 1: we want to keep our rights, but we're obviously willing 67 00:03:49,840 --> 00:03:53,600 Speaker 1: to entertain some quarantine. Pennsylvania, they arrested a woman for 68 00:03:53,680 --> 00:03:57,000 Speaker 1: driving her car. Oh my god, you know, driving your car. 69 00:03:57,080 --> 00:04:00,320 Speaker 1: You're not violating social distancing. You're sitting in your own 70 00:04:00,440 --> 00:04:03,160 Speaker 1: damn car, like like, this is not a police state, right, 71 00:04:03,680 --> 00:04:07,880 Speaker 1: And and you're seeing, you know, North Carolina that they 72 00:04:07,920 --> 00:04:12,080 Speaker 1: invest arrested David Benham. David David Jason Benham. The Bennam 73 00:04:12,120 --> 00:04:15,880 Speaker 1: brothers are friends of mine. They're great guys. Um. So 74 00:04:15,960 --> 00:04:20,360 Speaker 1: the North Carolina governor, a Democrat, determined that that elective 75 00:04:20,400 --> 00:04:23,440 Speaker 1: abortions are essential, and so that abortion clinics could gather, 76 00:04:23,480 --> 00:04:27,000 Speaker 1: they could all get together. And so the Bennam brothers 77 00:04:27,080 --> 00:04:30,160 Speaker 1: went outside and and and wanted to provide pregnancy counseling, 78 00:04:30,240 --> 00:04:34,120 Speaker 1: wanted to peacefully h tell moms that we're coming in 79 00:04:34,120 --> 00:04:36,880 Speaker 1: that we're considering abortions. You know, they're alternatives. If if 80 00:04:36,880 --> 00:04:39,359 Speaker 1: you want to pursue adoption, here are some of the 81 00:04:39,400 --> 00:04:42,279 Speaker 1: resources available to you. Right, And and they sent the 82 00:04:42,320 --> 00:04:45,880 Speaker 1: police to arrest them. And actually the video I tweeted 83 00:04:45,880 --> 00:04:47,520 Speaker 1: out the video. I did encourage you to watch that 84 00:04:47,640 --> 00:04:52,760 Speaker 1: video because, uh, you know, David is he said, Look, 85 00:04:52,760 --> 00:04:55,600 Speaker 1: we're being peaceful. He's very calm, he's not angry, he's 86 00:04:55,640 --> 00:04:58,520 Speaker 1: not they're not harassing anyone. He said, we're six feet away, 87 00:04:58,560 --> 00:05:02,360 Speaker 1: we're not gathering, we're not leading social distancing. But but 88 00:05:02,720 --> 00:05:05,400 Speaker 1: if the governor is going to say that that the 89 00:05:05,440 --> 00:05:07,799 Speaker 1: abortion is essential, that the doctors and all the staff 90 00:05:07,839 --> 00:05:10,800 Speaker 1: can gather there more than ten people in public, then 91 00:05:10,839 --> 00:05:14,120 Speaker 1: how can that be essential? But yet the counseling of 92 00:05:14,160 --> 00:05:20,359 Speaker 1: pregnancy alternatives is not equally essential to And it's interesting 93 00:05:20,360 --> 00:05:22,560 Speaker 1: the officers are arresting him, and you could see the 94 00:05:22,600 --> 00:05:26,080 Speaker 1: officers are reluctant, and David, to his credit, he's praising 95 00:05:26,080 --> 00:05:28,560 Speaker 1: the officers. He said, listen, thank you for your service. 96 00:05:28,640 --> 00:05:32,760 Speaker 1: Particularly now, I mean he's polite, he's praising them, and 97 00:05:33,120 --> 00:05:37,840 Speaker 1: it just shows Look, and I don't want to make 98 00:05:37,880 --> 00:05:40,520 Speaker 1: this partisan. And if there are are Republicans doing it, 99 00:05:40,560 --> 00:05:42,880 Speaker 1: I will happily call them out too. It just seems 100 00:05:42,920 --> 00:05:46,360 Speaker 1: to be it's the democratic governors and the Democratic mayors 101 00:05:46,600 --> 00:05:51,600 Speaker 1: that that in that instance, you know, he's he's hard 102 00:05:52,040 --> 00:05:56,640 Speaker 1: pro abortion and hard and anti pro life, and and 103 00:05:56,640 --> 00:05:59,080 Speaker 1: and so it's not if you want to say neither 104 00:05:59,160 --> 00:06:03,040 Speaker 1: of them are essential. Fine that I actually understand that determination. 105 00:06:03,120 --> 00:06:06,440 Speaker 1: But you can't pick one side and silence those that 106 00:06:06,480 --> 00:06:09,800 Speaker 1: would try to give it so ironic, and it totally 107 00:06:09,800 --> 00:06:11,680 Speaker 1: gives away the game where they say, if you gather 108 00:06:11,800 --> 00:06:15,760 Speaker 1: together to procure an abortion, that will not endanger your life. 109 00:06:15,760 --> 00:06:18,400 Speaker 1: And let me tell you something, abortion one hundred percent 110 00:06:18,400 --> 00:06:20,599 Speaker 1: of the time in danger's life. They say, no, that 111 00:06:20,640 --> 00:06:22,760 Speaker 1: won't endanger your life. But if you go and offer 112 00:06:22,800 --> 00:06:25,840 Speaker 1: some counseling, you also gathered together, that will endanger your life. 113 00:06:25,839 --> 00:06:28,360 Speaker 1: It's so backwards, it's such a power grab. You know, 114 00:06:28,480 --> 00:06:31,359 Speaker 1: certain states have made exceptions, and you know, in Colorado 115 00:06:31,400 --> 00:06:35,560 Speaker 1: they arrested a dad for playing t ball with his kids. 116 00:06:36,440 --> 00:06:40,160 Speaker 1: I mean, that's nutty. I spoke last night to a 117 00:06:40,240 --> 00:06:44,600 Speaker 1: Nevada state legislator who was complaining the Nevada governor has 118 00:06:44,680 --> 00:06:48,240 Speaker 1: shut down golf courses. Now I gotta say, Michael, it's 119 00:06:48,240 --> 00:06:53,080 Speaker 1: hard to think of a sport more situated to social distancing. Listen, 120 00:06:53,080 --> 00:06:55,159 Speaker 1: if you're with it, if you're closer than six feet, 121 00:06:55,360 --> 00:06:57,279 Speaker 1: you ain't doing it right right like you ever, Like, 122 00:06:58,560 --> 00:07:02,680 Speaker 1: I'm all for acting sensibly to protect the public safety. 123 00:07:02,720 --> 00:07:06,400 Speaker 1: But but there's some that are just eager to put 124 00:07:06,400 --> 00:07:08,680 Speaker 1: on that jackboot and it's scared. Now, what do you 125 00:07:08,720 --> 00:07:10,840 Speaker 1: make of these different states? I mean, some states they've 126 00:07:10,880 --> 00:07:13,680 Speaker 1: been arresting pastors if they try to hold services. Other 127 00:07:13,760 --> 00:07:17,160 Speaker 1: states have made an exception for religious services, and and 128 00:07:17,280 --> 00:07:19,160 Speaker 1: you know at various state by state. Luckily we haven't 129 00:07:19,160 --> 00:07:22,120 Speaker 1: had one national, one size fits all policy for this. 130 00:07:22,320 --> 00:07:24,600 Speaker 1: I mean, how is that going to play out even 131 00:07:24,640 --> 00:07:29,920 Speaker 1: after the pandemic's over. Listen, our law has always respected 132 00:07:29,960 --> 00:07:33,080 Speaker 1: religious liberty. The First Amendment protects religious liberty. I think 133 00:07:33,120 --> 00:07:37,840 Speaker 1: we should should do everything possible to protect people's right 134 00:07:37,880 --> 00:07:41,880 Speaker 1: of faith. At the same time, I think the responsible 135 00:07:41,960 --> 00:07:47,160 Speaker 1: thing to do is to act to protect the community. 136 00:07:47,240 --> 00:07:49,120 Speaker 1: So so my church, Ide and I are members of 137 00:07:49,120 --> 00:07:51,800 Speaker 1: a First Baptist church in Houston. It's a big, big church. 138 00:07:52,840 --> 00:07:57,080 Speaker 1: We've been going to church virtually online. Our pastor made 139 00:07:57,080 --> 00:07:59,760 Speaker 1: the very I think, very sensible decision to say We're 140 00:07:59,800 --> 00:08:01,960 Speaker 1: not going to bring people together and have thousands of 141 00:08:01,960 --> 00:08:05,320 Speaker 1: people in a sanctuary while there's a global pandemic going on. 142 00:08:05,400 --> 00:08:10,360 Speaker 1: And you know, I will say, as it's Easter Easter, 143 00:08:12,280 --> 00:08:15,400 Speaker 1: you know, you Easter Sunday. From for as long as 144 00:08:15,400 --> 00:08:17,520 Speaker 1: I can remember, we would always go to church on 145 00:08:17,640 --> 00:08:24,600 Speaker 1: Easter Sunday, that's and celebrate the Jesus. But it's worth 146 00:08:24,720 --> 00:08:27,800 Speaker 1: also remembering, you know, for those of us who are Christians, 147 00:08:29,400 --> 00:08:32,920 Speaker 1: the church is not a building. The church is not 148 00:08:33,080 --> 00:08:36,200 Speaker 1: bricks or mortars. So I'm I'm sad not to be there. 149 00:08:36,240 --> 00:08:38,960 Speaker 1: It's nice to be able to sing and have the 150 00:08:39,040 --> 00:08:41,800 Speaker 1: music in person. It's nice to be able to worship together. 151 00:08:42,800 --> 00:08:44,880 Speaker 1: But it actually has been beautiful. So what we do 152 00:08:44,960 --> 00:08:48,200 Speaker 1: every Sunday morning is we come down, come down to 153 00:08:48,240 --> 00:08:50,600 Speaker 1: the living room and we put we put the live 154 00:08:50,679 --> 00:08:53,960 Speaker 1: stream of our church up up up on the TV, 155 00:08:54,720 --> 00:08:57,559 Speaker 1: and Heidi and the girls and I just the four 156 00:08:57,600 --> 00:08:59,800 Speaker 1: of us in the living room and we'll watch and participate. 157 00:09:00,080 --> 00:09:02,000 Speaker 1: You know, we have to kind of drag the girls 158 00:09:02,000 --> 00:09:03,679 Speaker 1: out of bed, and you know, it's nice. I'll have 159 00:09:03,720 --> 00:09:06,680 Speaker 1: a cup of coffee and I'll confess I've done church 160 00:09:06,760 --> 00:09:10,760 Speaker 1: sometimes and my slippers normally did same here. I'm ashamed 161 00:09:10,800 --> 00:09:13,199 Speaker 1: to say, but I did. But you know it's interesting. 162 00:09:13,280 --> 00:09:15,400 Speaker 1: Number One, I was talking to my pastor earlier this week. 163 00:09:15,440 --> 00:09:18,839 Speaker 1: He said that that that the viewership has gone through 164 00:09:18,880 --> 00:09:22,240 Speaker 1: the roof, that a ton of people are logging on 165 00:09:22,280 --> 00:09:26,160 Speaker 1: and watching it online who wouldn't necessarily come in person. 166 00:09:26,280 --> 00:09:31,280 Speaker 1: And it is interesting because we're ending up having much 167 00:09:31,360 --> 00:09:36,199 Speaker 1: longer conversations with our girls about about the sermon, about 168 00:09:36,240 --> 00:09:38,520 Speaker 1: what's going on. You know, if you're in church, you 169 00:09:38,559 --> 00:09:40,560 Speaker 1: don't want to talk talk in church and bother people. 170 00:09:40,559 --> 00:09:43,480 Speaker 1: If you're in your living room, you can talk to 171 00:09:43,480 --> 00:09:44,720 Speaker 1: each other and you can say, hey, what do you 172 00:09:44,760 --> 00:09:46,679 Speaker 1: think about what he just said? And you know, you 173 00:09:46,720 --> 00:09:51,040 Speaker 1: can have conversations that flow out of it. That that 174 00:09:51,280 --> 00:09:55,040 Speaker 1: are you know, what the Bible said is that is 175 00:09:55,080 --> 00:09:59,120 Speaker 1: the Church is the body of believers, is everyone who 176 00:09:59,200 --> 00:10:02,560 Speaker 1: is a Christian? That we're the church, not the building. 177 00:10:03,400 --> 00:10:08,360 Speaker 1: Um and and so even though East Easter Sunday, most 178 00:10:08,400 --> 00:10:10,720 Speaker 1: of us are not going to be at a physical church. 179 00:10:10,840 --> 00:10:16,360 Speaker 1: If if we are giving thanks for Jesus's resurrection, that 180 00:10:16,480 --> 00:10:20,000 Speaker 1: we're celebrating Easter and the church is celebrating and and 181 00:10:20,000 --> 00:10:23,800 Speaker 1: and I hope also listen. This is a time, you know. 182 00:10:23,840 --> 00:10:26,760 Speaker 1: I remember back when Hurricane Harvey hit Texas and it 183 00:10:26,800 --> 00:10:31,760 Speaker 1: was devastating in Texas, second costless natural disaster in US history, 184 00:10:32,920 --> 00:10:35,720 Speaker 1: and it was really amazing to see the churches all 185 00:10:35,760 --> 00:10:39,000 Speaker 1: throughout Texas, especially on the Gulf Coast, coming out and 186 00:10:39,040 --> 00:10:41,760 Speaker 1: helping people, helping people whose homes had been destroyed. Everything 187 00:10:41,800 --> 00:10:44,440 Speaker 1: they had was lost. And it was a time when 188 00:10:44,440 --> 00:10:46,920 Speaker 1: the church was doing what the church should. The church 189 00:10:47,320 --> 00:10:49,880 Speaker 1: should be helping people, people in need, people who are 190 00:10:49,960 --> 00:10:53,440 Speaker 1: scared people. You know our church, we've had one member 191 00:10:53,480 --> 00:10:56,840 Speaker 1: of a woman in our eighties who died of COVID 192 00:10:56,920 --> 00:11:02,839 Speaker 1: nineteen and you know, the ministry for seniors. It's hard 193 00:11:02,880 --> 00:11:06,440 Speaker 1: for seniors to be isolated. And this is a time, 194 00:11:06,520 --> 00:11:09,040 Speaker 1: I hope and I believe the church is doing more 195 00:11:09,640 --> 00:11:12,080 Speaker 1: to help people who are scared, who are in need, 196 00:11:12,280 --> 00:11:14,719 Speaker 1: even if we don't gather in person. It's much more 197 00:11:14,760 --> 00:11:18,079 Speaker 1: important for the church to reflect the love of Jesus 198 00:11:18,080 --> 00:11:21,240 Speaker 1: than to stand in one particular building, right. And I 199 00:11:21,280 --> 00:11:23,880 Speaker 1: think there's something else going on here too with regard 200 00:11:23,920 --> 00:11:27,079 Speaker 1: to the pandemic, which is people always think about Easter, 201 00:11:27,360 --> 00:11:30,000 Speaker 1: but you forget that you don't get Easter without Good Friday. 202 00:11:30,080 --> 00:11:32,800 Speaker 1: This is a reminder. This whole season of Lent, which 203 00:11:32,800 --> 00:11:36,400 Speaker 1: by the way, has corresponded exactly with the coronavirus pandemic. 204 00:11:36,760 --> 00:11:39,040 Speaker 1: Lent begins and you get ashes on your head if 205 00:11:39,040 --> 00:11:42,680 Speaker 1: you're a Catholic or a certain other denominations, and they say, remember, man, 206 00:11:42,760 --> 00:11:45,240 Speaker 1: you are dust to dust, you shall return. And it's 207 00:11:45,400 --> 00:11:49,000 Speaker 1: very easy in modern life to forget that someday, eventually 208 00:11:49,320 --> 00:11:51,360 Speaker 1: we're all going to die. We might not die from 209 00:11:51,360 --> 00:11:55,120 Speaker 1: the coronavirus, let's hope, but we will die eventually. And 210 00:11:55,200 --> 00:11:57,439 Speaker 1: that reminder that, you know, I think it was doctor 211 00:11:57,520 --> 00:12:00,640 Speaker 1: Johnson said, hanging concentrates the mind. You know, when you 212 00:12:00,679 --> 00:12:03,080 Speaker 1: look death straight in the face, it focuses you on 213 00:12:03,120 --> 00:12:05,959 Speaker 1: the bigger questions. In a way, locking down the churches 214 00:12:06,520 --> 00:12:11,400 Speaker 1: might have a pretty positive effect on religion in the country. 215 00:12:11,559 --> 00:12:14,240 Speaker 1: It also brings families together, whether you whether you like 216 00:12:14,360 --> 00:12:17,080 Speaker 1: it or not. Look, Caroline said, you know, I can't 217 00:12:17,160 --> 00:12:19,079 Speaker 1: stand it. I've been in this house for a month, 218 00:12:19,120 --> 00:12:21,760 Speaker 1: and I mean and she's eleven, and I'm like, sweetheart, 219 00:12:21,800 --> 00:12:24,440 Speaker 1: I know we all had we're like ready to jump 220 00:12:24,480 --> 00:12:29,680 Speaker 1: out the windows. But there have also been so every 221 00:12:29,760 --> 00:12:32,560 Speaker 1: day Heidi and I. We've had had had lunch with 222 00:12:32,640 --> 00:12:35,960 Speaker 1: the girls. We've had dinner with the girls. That's never 223 00:12:36,040 --> 00:12:38,520 Speaker 1: happened in the whole time we've been a family. We've 224 00:12:38,559 --> 00:12:41,320 Speaker 1: never had and and I'll tell you one thing we've started. 225 00:12:41,360 --> 00:12:42,800 Speaker 1: So we've started doing a couple of things. When we 226 00:12:42,880 --> 00:12:46,520 Speaker 1: go for walks every evening, um sometimes family walks, we 227 00:12:46,600 --> 00:12:48,880 Speaker 1: walk the dog. Sometimes it's just tidy in me, but 228 00:12:48,920 --> 00:12:51,120 Speaker 1: like the whole neighborhood is out walking and and it's 229 00:12:51,160 --> 00:12:53,839 Speaker 1: like like Central Houston. Now it's we're six feet apart. 230 00:12:53,920 --> 00:12:56,280 Speaker 1: We stay, we stay at a distance, but it's like 231 00:12:56,320 --> 00:12:59,440 Speaker 1: Central Houston became Mayberry. I mean, it's an amazing thing. 232 00:13:00,240 --> 00:13:03,800 Speaker 1: But something else we've started doing that I wanted to 233 00:13:03,840 --> 00:13:07,120 Speaker 1: do for a long time is every night we're reading 234 00:13:07,120 --> 00:13:12,400 Speaker 1: from the Bible and listen. I've wanted to do that 235 00:13:12,480 --> 00:13:15,000 Speaker 1: regular and we've done it. Sometimes we've done it sporadically, 236 00:13:15,040 --> 00:13:17,640 Speaker 1: but not with real discipline. And part of it is, 237 00:13:18,120 --> 00:13:20,880 Speaker 1: you know, being in the Senate. Typically I get up 238 00:13:20,920 --> 00:13:23,839 Speaker 1: Monday mornings, I fly to DC and I'm gone for 239 00:13:23,880 --> 00:13:28,520 Speaker 1: four days. I come back Thursday night. It's hard as 240 00:13:28,559 --> 00:13:31,120 Speaker 1: a dad if you're in town two three days a week. 241 00:13:31,200 --> 00:13:34,760 Speaker 1: It's hard to sort of have a family discipline of 242 00:13:34,920 --> 00:13:38,200 Speaker 1: after dinner we sit down and read the Bible. And 243 00:13:38,200 --> 00:13:40,760 Speaker 1: and I've I've been like guilty in thinking about it. 244 00:13:40,800 --> 00:13:42,520 Speaker 1: We need to do more of it. And so with 245 00:13:42,559 --> 00:13:43,839 Speaker 1: all this time at home, how do you and I 246 00:13:43,880 --> 00:13:45,600 Speaker 1: just decid all right, we're going to do this. And 247 00:13:45,720 --> 00:13:47,560 Speaker 1: our girls didn't like it. I mean, it was a 248 00:13:47,600 --> 00:13:50,760 Speaker 1: big battle. It was not that this was not mild 249 00:13:50,840 --> 00:13:53,760 Speaker 1: or easy. And so we started with just Matthew chapter 250 00:13:53,840 --> 00:13:58,360 Speaker 1: one and reading three chapters a night. I think the 251 00:13:58,400 --> 00:14:00,920 Speaker 1: first night it took us hour hour and a half 252 00:14:01,000 --> 00:14:03,120 Speaker 1: to get through three chapters. The girls were acting up. 253 00:14:03,160 --> 00:14:06,960 Speaker 1: It was it was a bit of a mess. But 254 00:14:07,000 --> 00:14:10,559 Speaker 1: it's interesting we've gotten through. I think we're like Matthew 255 00:14:10,640 --> 00:14:14,040 Speaker 1: chapter twenty four. Um, so, so we haven't done it 256 00:14:14,080 --> 00:14:17,760 Speaker 1: that long, but it's been been each night and it 257 00:14:17,840 --> 00:14:20,600 Speaker 1: has been really And what's interesting is it just so 258 00:14:20,720 --> 00:14:24,600 Speaker 1: happens we're right now moving into good Friday and Easter, 259 00:14:24,800 --> 00:14:27,640 Speaker 1: like like just just the timing worked out. We didn't 260 00:14:27,640 --> 00:14:31,120 Speaker 1: sit down and planet like this. But but you know, 261 00:14:31,840 --> 00:14:35,840 Speaker 1: last Sunday was was Palm Sunday and we were we 262 00:14:35,840 --> 00:14:38,640 Speaker 1: were reading in Matthew where it talks about Palm Sunday 263 00:14:38,640 --> 00:14:43,000 Speaker 1: and Jesus riding into Jerusalem on the back of a donkey. 264 00:14:43,240 --> 00:14:45,240 Speaker 1: And by the way, my pastor said something very interesting 265 00:14:45,280 --> 00:14:46,520 Speaker 1: that I didn't know. I don't know if you knew. 266 00:14:47,400 --> 00:14:50,800 Speaker 1: Did you know that Palm Sunday, the Sunday before Easter, 267 00:14:51,680 --> 00:14:56,320 Speaker 1: was the day traditionally in Judaism when they selected the 268 00:14:56,400 --> 00:14:59,400 Speaker 1: lamb to be sacrificed. I did not know that. I 269 00:14:59,440 --> 00:15:01,920 Speaker 1: had never heard that. Our pastor said that this last Sunday, 270 00:15:01,960 --> 00:15:03,840 Speaker 1: and I thought that was fascinating because a lot of 271 00:15:03,880 --> 00:15:06,880 Speaker 1: what we've been talking about with the girls was the 272 00:15:07,040 --> 00:15:12,640 Speaker 1: parallel with Passover and and and and the entire story 273 00:15:12,680 --> 00:15:15,080 Speaker 1: of Passover, which we kind of take digressions as we're 274 00:15:15,120 --> 00:15:18,160 Speaker 1: reading the Bible to say, Okay, the people of Israel 275 00:15:18,200 --> 00:15:21,040 Speaker 1: were in captivity in Egypt, and and the ten plagues, 276 00:15:21,120 --> 00:15:23,520 Speaker 1: and so Catherine sang a song on the ten plagues 277 00:15:23,600 --> 00:15:26,360 Speaker 1: like that that that struck Egypt. But but you know 278 00:15:26,400 --> 00:15:29,080 Speaker 1: we were talking about, you know that for the Angel 279 00:15:29,160 --> 00:15:31,360 Speaker 1: of Death to pass over your home, that you had 280 00:15:31,400 --> 00:15:33,760 Speaker 1: to put the lamb's blood on the side of the door, 281 00:15:33,840 --> 00:15:38,560 Speaker 1: on the top, and and and that that that that 282 00:15:38,800 --> 00:15:42,400 Speaker 1: is what Easter is all about, is that Jesus was 283 00:15:42,440 --> 00:15:48,360 Speaker 1: the Lamb sacrificed for us, and the passover Lamb Jesus 284 00:15:48,560 --> 00:15:54,320 Speaker 1: was that same sacrifice and that story. Having the opportunity 285 00:15:54,360 --> 00:15:59,280 Speaker 1: to talk about it at this time we're Easter's at home, 286 00:16:01,040 --> 00:16:04,000 Speaker 1: it has made it, I think, in many ways more 287 00:16:04,120 --> 00:16:08,000 Speaker 1: meaningful than being in a big service for the converse. So, 288 00:16:08,040 --> 00:16:09,920 Speaker 1: you know, this is something that my wife and I 289 00:16:09,960 --> 00:16:12,640 Speaker 1: have been doing too in our little one bedroom apartment. 290 00:16:12,680 --> 00:16:15,880 Speaker 1: I think probably my greatest risk of death right now 291 00:16:16,000 --> 00:16:18,040 Speaker 1: is not any pandemic. It's going to be murder when 292 00:16:18,080 --> 00:16:21,520 Speaker 1: my wife finally snaps. But if that doesn't happen, you know, 293 00:16:21,600 --> 00:16:24,840 Speaker 1: in the meantime, what we've been doing, especially because we're Catholics, 294 00:16:24,880 --> 00:16:28,160 Speaker 1: so we have certain icons and religious images around and 295 00:16:28,320 --> 00:16:30,240 Speaker 1: when we go to church now, the church is at 296 00:16:30,240 --> 00:16:32,640 Speaker 1: the kitchen table, and we live stream it in from 297 00:16:32,640 --> 00:16:35,240 Speaker 1: our priests who's down in southern California, and it's just 298 00:16:35,360 --> 00:16:38,520 Speaker 1: him on a live stream, and it really focuses you 299 00:16:38,920 --> 00:16:40,960 Speaker 1: on these images. So it's just my wife and I 300 00:16:41,000 --> 00:16:44,280 Speaker 1: sitting in kitchen chairs. You know, there's no smells and bells, 301 00:16:44,280 --> 00:16:47,040 Speaker 1: there's no beautiful music going on. It's really just us 302 00:16:47,360 --> 00:16:50,560 Speaker 1: contemplating some of these images, listening to these words, listening 303 00:16:50,560 --> 00:16:53,080 Speaker 1: to these prayers, and you know, it does remind you 304 00:16:53,120 --> 00:16:57,320 Speaker 1: when Jesus says, when you pray, go into your innermost closet, 305 00:16:57,440 --> 00:17:00,600 Speaker 1: you know, do it in solitude and really make it 306 00:17:00,640 --> 00:17:02,840 Speaker 1: about that connection to God. And it just gives you 307 00:17:02,880 --> 00:17:05,479 Speaker 1: another sense when you go and pray the Rosary at 308 00:17:05,560 --> 00:17:08,040 Speaker 1: night and it's just the two of you and everybody's 309 00:17:08,119 --> 00:17:11,600 Speaker 1: quiet and no one's outside. In a way, it really 310 00:17:11,800 --> 00:17:17,080 Speaker 1: amplifies your prayer and your spiritual connection to God, even 311 00:17:17,119 --> 00:17:20,040 Speaker 1: when you can't go into your own church. Well, and 312 00:17:20,280 --> 00:17:22,960 Speaker 1: and I'll say this this also cuts across face. So 313 00:17:23,080 --> 00:17:25,200 Speaker 1: some good friends of ours who are who are neighbors 314 00:17:25,200 --> 00:17:29,840 Speaker 1: who are Jewish, and they celebrated this week their Passover Sader, 315 00:17:30,320 --> 00:17:33,960 Speaker 1: which which ordinarily they would do with the whole extended family. 316 00:17:34,000 --> 00:17:36,160 Speaker 1: And they were telling me, Okay, so we're just doing 317 00:17:36,200 --> 00:17:38,720 Speaker 1: it with you know, mom and dad. And they have 318 00:17:39,119 --> 00:17:41,280 Speaker 1: a daughter who's really close friends with Caroline, and they 319 00:17:41,280 --> 00:17:43,200 Speaker 1: have a son is a little bit younger, and they said, 320 00:17:43,200 --> 00:17:46,119 Speaker 1: what they're doing is just they're face timing on I 321 00:17:46,160 --> 00:17:49,920 Speaker 1: think iPads with their extended family. So with parents and sisters. 322 00:17:49,960 --> 00:17:52,760 Speaker 1: You know they're not you know, most of us are 323 00:17:52,800 --> 00:17:55,240 Speaker 1: not seeing our parents. My dad's eighty one, my mom's 324 00:17:55,240 --> 00:17:57,120 Speaker 1: eighty five. I've seen either one of them and over 325 00:17:57,160 --> 00:17:59,879 Speaker 1: a month because I'm not going to jeopardize their health. 326 00:18:00,920 --> 00:18:04,040 Speaker 1: But it is interesting, even a passover Satyer. You know, 327 00:18:04,040 --> 00:18:06,800 Speaker 1: I've been to a lot of sators and they're wonderful 328 00:18:06,840 --> 00:18:08,399 Speaker 1: and fun. But you think of them as you know, 329 00:18:08,640 --> 00:18:14,080 Speaker 1: big groups of multi generational extended family, and with technology, 330 00:18:14,119 --> 00:18:15,880 Speaker 1: you can even do that if it's just a few 331 00:18:15,920 --> 00:18:18,560 Speaker 1: of you and you're trying to socially distance, you can 332 00:18:18,600 --> 00:18:25,320 Speaker 1: still you can still have a wonderful faith and family 333 00:18:25,400 --> 00:18:30,240 Speaker 1: experience together. And I suspect we'll look back at these. 334 00:18:32,240 --> 00:18:35,879 Speaker 1: It wouldn't surprise me if when our girls are grown 335 00:18:35,960 --> 00:18:39,440 Speaker 1: they look back to this time of spending day after 336 00:18:39,560 --> 00:18:42,280 Speaker 1: day and week after week together as a family as 337 00:18:42,320 --> 00:18:45,640 Speaker 1: some of their favorite time ever. Now they wouldn't admit 338 00:18:45,760 --> 00:18:52,760 Speaker 1: that now, right who, but it it is. You know, 339 00:18:53,400 --> 00:18:56,200 Speaker 1: Caroline is in our front yard right now, building a 340 00:18:56,200 --> 00:18:58,960 Speaker 1: little bit of a treehouse and a tree and you know, 341 00:18:59,080 --> 00:19:01,639 Speaker 1: coming and pulling me out of I'm on conference calls 342 00:19:01,680 --> 00:19:05,120 Speaker 1: with work and doing all just I'm in the middle 343 00:19:05,160 --> 00:19:08,440 Speaker 1: of what basically a teletour across Texas, like meeting talking 344 00:19:08,480 --> 00:19:12,040 Speaker 1: with all different communities. But like Caroline comes comes yesterday 345 00:19:12,040 --> 00:19:13,879 Speaker 1: and says, you know, Dad, we need your help to 346 00:19:13,920 --> 00:19:17,560 Speaker 1: cut the lumber. I'm not very handy, but but thankfully 347 00:19:17,600 --> 00:19:20,359 Speaker 1: I have told her, okay, no power tools. As an 348 00:19:20,359 --> 00:19:22,760 Speaker 1: eleven year old, I don't want severed digits. So I 349 00:19:22,800 --> 00:19:26,320 Speaker 1: got the jig saw and managed to cut the board 350 00:19:26,359 --> 00:19:28,479 Speaker 1: without in fact severing any of my digits. So that 351 00:19:28,520 --> 00:19:30,359 Speaker 1: was good. But it's kind of right in the middle 352 00:19:30,359 --> 00:19:32,920 Speaker 1: of the day. It's like, like, come to the garage 353 00:19:32,920 --> 00:19:35,400 Speaker 1: and let's cut lumber to build the treehouse. There's something 354 00:19:35,680 --> 00:19:38,160 Speaker 1: really nice about that. I've noticed the same thing as 355 00:19:38,160 --> 00:19:41,119 Speaker 1: you mentioned with your friends in the Passover Sader people, 356 00:19:41,200 --> 00:19:43,800 Speaker 1: family members, old friends that I have not called in 357 00:19:43,800 --> 00:19:46,400 Speaker 1: a long time. Now, we're just doing calls because that's 358 00:19:46,400 --> 00:19:48,639 Speaker 1: what people are doing. I mean, it's and speaking of 359 00:19:48,680 --> 00:19:51,040 Speaker 1: connecting with people virtually. I know we've only got a 360 00:19:51,040 --> 00:19:52,720 Speaker 1: few minutes left, but I do want to get to 361 00:19:52,760 --> 00:19:54,600 Speaker 1: some of the mail bag because we've got some very 362 00:19:54,960 --> 00:19:57,760 Speaker 1: important questions here. Probably this is the most important one 363 00:19:57,800 --> 00:20:02,240 Speaker 1: that I've read in weeks. Senator Amber does Ted think 364 00:20:02,359 --> 00:20:06,640 Speaker 1: Joe Exotic should be pardoned? I'm serious, I want his opinion. 365 00:20:07,040 --> 00:20:11,159 Speaker 1: Michael can answer to Senator, what's your answer? Well, I 366 00:20:11,200 --> 00:20:15,480 Speaker 1: will say I cracked up laughing that this week at 367 00:20:15,480 --> 00:20:18,200 Speaker 1: the White House Press conference, they asked if Joe Exotic 368 00:20:18,240 --> 00:20:21,479 Speaker 1: should be should be pardoned, and and President Trump, I'm 369 00:20:21,520 --> 00:20:23,360 Speaker 1: not sure he knew what was going on, but said yeah, yeah, 370 00:20:23,359 --> 00:20:25,399 Speaker 1: we'll have to look at that. And then that was 371 00:20:26,760 --> 00:20:29,000 Speaker 1: that was pretty durn funny. You know, I've got a 372 00:20:29,040 --> 00:20:32,439 Speaker 1: pet theory. Yeah that that that that the prospect of 373 00:20:32,520 --> 00:20:38,120 Speaker 1: Joe Exotic being pardoned is why Obama delayed endorsing Joe 374 00:20:38,160 --> 00:20:41,399 Speaker 1: Biden because you know, look, I apparently Joe Exotic ran 375 00:20:41,520 --> 00:20:44,680 Speaker 1: for president in twenty sixteen against against me. I didn't 376 00:20:44,720 --> 00:20:47,000 Speaker 1: know it at the time, against Trump. So who knows, 377 00:20:47,080 --> 00:20:49,399 Speaker 1: maybe Joe Exotics on the ballot in twenty twenty and 378 00:20:49,440 --> 00:20:53,760 Speaker 1: Obama's holding the the endorsement back uh waiting for the 379 00:20:53,760 --> 00:20:57,359 Speaker 1: Tiger King endorse. This is the most brilliant political insight 380 00:20:57,480 --> 00:20:59,800 Speaker 1: I have seen in so long. I am now, I 381 00:21:00,320 --> 00:21:02,920 Speaker 1: don't know my feelings on Joe Exotic getting a pardon, 382 00:21:03,000 --> 00:21:07,480 Speaker 1: other than I indorse Barack Obama endorsing Joe Exotic. So 383 00:21:07,520 --> 00:21:09,080 Speaker 1: I guess that means we got to spring him from 384 00:21:09,080 --> 00:21:12,120 Speaker 1: the slammer. A very good point, Senator. Next question from Peter, 385 00:21:12,920 --> 00:21:17,159 Speaker 1: is there any evidence that China purposely delayed and lied 386 00:21:17,240 --> 00:21:20,040 Speaker 1: in their report in order to tank the world economy 387 00:21:20,320 --> 00:21:24,520 Speaker 1: considering that theirs was already in shambles. So that's an 388 00:21:24,520 --> 00:21:29,080 Speaker 1: interesting question. There is absolutely evidence that China purposely delayed 389 00:21:29,119 --> 00:21:32,160 Speaker 1: and that they covered up that when the Wuhan outbreak 390 00:21:32,240 --> 00:21:35,960 Speaker 1: was ongoing, that that they hid evidence of it, that 391 00:21:36,000 --> 00:21:38,760 Speaker 1: they punished the scientists who were trying to blow the whistle, 392 00:21:39,160 --> 00:21:43,119 Speaker 1: including the doctor who courageously did it anyway and has 393 00:21:43,160 --> 00:21:48,719 Speaker 1: since died of COVID nineteen. You know, I'm not aware 394 00:21:48,760 --> 00:21:52,240 Speaker 1: of any evidence that they did it with the intent 395 00:21:52,359 --> 00:21:56,400 Speaker 1: of tanking the global economy. I think that's probably a stretch. 396 00:21:57,720 --> 00:22:01,439 Speaker 1: Although when it comes to ascribing malign intentions to the 397 00:22:01,520 --> 00:22:04,840 Speaker 1: Chinese communist you almost can't stretch two minds, no limit. 398 00:22:04,920 --> 00:22:07,000 Speaker 1: But you know, I had an I had an old 399 00:22:07,040 --> 00:22:09,520 Speaker 1: boss who was a federal judge who used to say, 400 00:22:10,440 --> 00:22:14,440 Speaker 1: never attribute to malice what you can attribute to incompetence, 401 00:22:15,320 --> 00:22:18,920 Speaker 1: and and listen, I think the Chinese covered it up 402 00:22:19,160 --> 00:22:22,080 Speaker 1: because they were embarrassed, because they didn't want people to know. 403 00:22:23,240 --> 00:22:26,640 Speaker 1: I think there's a very real possibility that this outbreak 404 00:22:26,680 --> 00:22:30,120 Speaker 1: occurred from from some sort of accidental transmission. There were 405 00:22:30,160 --> 00:22:35,280 Speaker 1: two two facilities within miles of the Wuhan Wet Market 406 00:22:35,280 --> 00:22:39,520 Speaker 1: where we think this started. That we're studying coronaviruses in 407 00:22:39,600 --> 00:22:44,040 Speaker 1: bats and um. I haven't seen any evidence that this 408 00:22:44,160 --> 00:22:46,919 Speaker 1: was Look, there's some internet theories that this was manufactured 409 00:22:46,960 --> 00:22:50,800 Speaker 1: and is like bio terrorism. You know. Look, I'm skeptical 410 00:22:50,840 --> 00:22:54,679 Speaker 1: that the Chinese government would release a virus on their 411 00:22:54,680 --> 00:22:58,679 Speaker 1: own people. We've seen tyrannical governments torture and murder their people, 412 00:22:58,720 --> 00:23:03,920 Speaker 1: but doing it deliberately. I've seen no evidence of that. 413 00:23:05,119 --> 00:23:08,000 Speaker 1: What strikes me as entirely plausible is that it was 414 00:23:08,040 --> 00:23:10,119 Speaker 1: a screw up from one of the labs that that 415 00:23:11,200 --> 00:23:14,320 Speaker 1: may have been studying this virus. As I said, we 416 00:23:14,400 --> 00:23:17,840 Speaker 1: know they were studying coronaviruses from bats, and then the 417 00:23:17,840 --> 00:23:21,439 Speaker 1: whole cover up was to hide their embarrassment, to hide there. 418 00:23:21,520 --> 00:23:25,439 Speaker 1: And the reason that matters is if they hadn't covered 419 00:23:25,480 --> 00:23:27,359 Speaker 1: it up, we could have gone in. We could have 420 00:23:27,440 --> 00:23:30,679 Speaker 1: contained this outbreak maybe and found the people who were 421 00:23:30,720 --> 00:23:34,359 Speaker 1: infected and isolated them and dug the contact tracing and 422 00:23:34,640 --> 00:23:38,840 Speaker 1: potentially stopped this outbreak from becoming an epidemic and then 423 00:23:38,840 --> 00:23:41,320 Speaker 1: a pandemic. That if you stop it at the origin, 424 00:23:42,560 --> 00:23:47,520 Speaker 1: it is entirely possible that that that the death swirldwide 425 00:23:47,600 --> 00:23:51,359 Speaker 1: and the trillions of dollars of economic destruction could have 426 00:23:51,400 --> 00:23:53,639 Speaker 1: been covered up if the Chinese had it could have 427 00:23:53,680 --> 00:23:56,359 Speaker 1: been stopped if the Chinese hadn't engaged in this cover up. 428 00:23:56,520 --> 00:23:59,800 Speaker 1: All right, final question, this is maybe the most important 429 00:23:59,840 --> 00:24:02,920 Speaker 1: one ball What are you eating on Easter? And who 430 00:24:03,000 --> 00:24:05,920 Speaker 1: is doing the cooking? You know, it's funny. I don't know. 431 00:24:06,240 --> 00:24:08,720 Speaker 1: So yesterday Heidi and I were taking our walk and 432 00:24:08,720 --> 00:24:11,000 Speaker 1: and and and Heidi's was like, all right, what do 433 00:24:11,040 --> 00:24:12,480 Speaker 1: we want to do for Eastern I'm like, well, what 434 00:24:12,520 --> 00:24:13,520 Speaker 1: do you mean what do you want to do for 435 00:24:13,560 --> 00:24:16,000 Speaker 1: Eastern She's like, well, we need to like do something 436 00:24:16,000 --> 00:24:19,280 Speaker 1: for Eester. I'm like, did your family do like big 437 00:24:19,400 --> 00:24:22,199 Speaker 1: Easter things? And like, I gotta admit my family like 438 00:24:22,240 --> 00:24:24,560 Speaker 1: we would go to church, yeah, and then we just 439 00:24:24,560 --> 00:24:25,920 Speaker 1: come home and hang out as a family. It was 440 00:24:25,920 --> 00:24:27,879 Speaker 1: a Sunday. I mean, we didn't like it wasn't a 441 00:24:28,480 --> 00:24:33,080 Speaker 1: put on the suit and tie. It was I mean 442 00:24:33,800 --> 00:24:36,240 Speaker 1: it was not. And we had this big discussion because 443 00:24:36,280 --> 00:24:38,320 Speaker 1: Heidi kept asking, we no know what do we want 444 00:24:38,320 --> 00:24:40,000 Speaker 1: to do? And I'm like, what do you mean? Do 445 00:24:40,280 --> 00:24:42,520 Speaker 1: like same thing we do? And she's like, all right, 446 00:24:42,560 --> 00:24:45,120 Speaker 1: how about an Easter egg hunt. I'm like, okay, if 447 00:24:45,280 --> 00:24:47,680 Speaker 1: we've done those for our girls. And I think Catherine, 448 00:24:47,720 --> 00:24:50,280 Speaker 1: who's nine, she's more into it than Caroline, is probably 449 00:24:50,400 --> 00:24:52,439 Speaker 1: a little too cool for an Easter egg hunt. But 450 00:24:52,440 --> 00:24:54,880 Speaker 1: I'm like, sure, if you want to get some plastic 451 00:24:54,920 --> 00:24:57,119 Speaker 1: eggs and put candy or money in them, put in 452 00:24:57,119 --> 00:25:00,600 Speaker 1: the backyard, we can do that. But um, so, I 453 00:25:00,640 --> 00:25:02,359 Speaker 1: don't know what we're gonna eat, that's the short answer. 454 00:25:02,400 --> 00:25:05,720 Speaker 1: Will probably Heidi and I are terrible cooks, yeah, although 455 00:25:05,760 --> 00:25:08,840 Speaker 1: Caroline has begun cooking at home, so we haven't figured 456 00:25:08,880 --> 00:25:10,719 Speaker 1: it out. As the short answer, I think we'll do 457 00:25:10,760 --> 00:25:16,280 Speaker 1: a nicer, nicer meal than just cold pizza, right, But 458 00:25:16,280 --> 00:25:19,600 Speaker 1: but I don't know what it'll be, and maybe we'll 459 00:25:19,720 --> 00:25:22,720 Speaker 1: order out. It's literally Heidi is pressing me, saying we 460 00:25:22,800 --> 00:25:25,560 Speaker 1: need to have a big sort of Easter meal. You know, 461 00:25:25,680 --> 00:25:28,120 Speaker 1: most Easters I would have done, like gone to church, 462 00:25:28,160 --> 00:25:30,200 Speaker 1: and then like gone and taking my mom out to 463 00:25:30,240 --> 00:25:33,800 Speaker 1: dinner or something and done like a brunch at a restaurant. 464 00:25:33,840 --> 00:25:36,479 Speaker 1: So we're obviously not going to do that. You can 465 00:25:36,520 --> 00:25:38,199 Speaker 1: always have the mimosas, but you got to do it 466 00:25:38,240 --> 00:25:40,600 Speaker 1: at home. You know. It's funny because I think what 467 00:25:40,640 --> 00:25:42,760 Speaker 1: most people are gonna do is more like what you 468 00:25:42,800 --> 00:25:44,760 Speaker 1: did growing up, which is it'll be the first Easter 469 00:25:44,840 --> 00:25:47,600 Speaker 1: in the pajamas, and frankly, that doesn't sound so bad. 470 00:25:47,640 --> 00:25:50,879 Speaker 1: A nice time to spend with family, obviously, Senator, Happy 471 00:25:50,920 --> 00:25:54,760 Speaker 1: Easter to you, and happy Easter to everybody else who 472 00:25:54,840 --> 00:25:57,879 Speaker 1: is listening. I'm Michael Knowles. 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