WEBVTT - Gobble Gobble: Turkeys!

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to Stuff You Should Know, a production of I

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<v Speaker 1>Heart Radios, How Stuff Works, Gobble Gobble, and welcome to

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<v Speaker 1>the podcast. I'm Josh Clark, and there's Charles W. Chuck Bryant,

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<v Speaker 1>and there's Jerry Jero Roland. Couldn't come up with anything

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<v Speaker 1>in the last second, that's all right, and this is

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<v Speaker 1>Stuff you Should Know about turkeys. Yeah, so I need

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<v Speaker 1>to just apologize at the beginning of this episode because

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<v Speaker 1>I could not help and I know I will not

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<v Speaker 1>be able to help myself from making Vernon Florida references

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<v Speaker 1>the Great Great documentary from Errol Morris, one of the

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<v Speaker 1>prominent about the citizens of Vernon, Florida in the nineteen

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<v Speaker 1>eighties and Inland, Florida, panhandled small town and one of

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<v Speaker 1>the lead characters and in that documentary was Mr Henry Ships.

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<v Speaker 1>He was a turkey hunter and all he does is

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<v Speaker 1>talk about turkey hunting. And I know it by heart,

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<v Speaker 1>me and all my friends know it by heart, and

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<v Speaker 1>we quoted a lot. So it's really really hard not

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<v Speaker 1>to just talk like Henry Ships. So I'll try not

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<v Speaker 1>to because it's so random that the people it won't

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<v Speaker 1>be worth it for like the hundred people that will

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<v Speaker 1>think that's the best thing ever. I don't know, man,

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<v Speaker 1>I've found over the years that it's good to cater

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<v Speaker 1>those people sometimes too. You know, I might throw in

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<v Speaker 1>an occasionally and I'll explain what I'm talking about maybe,

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<v Speaker 1>But um, we do need to thank the Humane Society

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<v Speaker 1>for what The bulk of this research came from this

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<v Speaker 1>really great, great, great article that someone nameless person that

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<v Speaker 1>the Humane Society put together from a list of great,

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<v Speaker 1>great sources. So I was surprised to see something so thorough.

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<v Speaker 1>It was really great. It was written by the mysterious

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<v Speaker 1>Tom t It was really in favor of turkeys suspiciously.

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<v Speaker 1>And now I'm Thanksgiving day two, So we also need

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<v Speaker 1>to apologize for We're not trying to guilt you or

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<v Speaker 1>anything like that. Maybe to listen to this one for

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<v Speaker 1>a week, I will say the chuck like, I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>eating turkey anymore after this. And it's really kind of

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<v Speaker 1>a pain because turkey is my favorite. My favorite meat

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<v Speaker 1>of all time is turkey. I know, I'm sorry. Then, Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>it is tough. I knew turkeys were pretty cool and

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<v Speaker 1>pretty smart, um, but it's it is. It is tough

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<v Speaker 1>to read this stuff and still slice into that bird. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>it's funny to hear that they are smart, because they

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<v Speaker 1>have such a great reputation for being just totally stupid.

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<v Speaker 1>But it turns out that that's really not right at all.

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<v Speaker 1>It's at at best a human misinterpretation, maybe at worst

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<v Speaker 1>cynical um justification for eating them. Um. But one of

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<v Speaker 1>the first things that will remark about turkeys right out

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<v Speaker 1>of the gate, that a lot of people don't know

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<v Speaker 1>is that Ben Franklin was more in favor of turkeys

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<v Speaker 1>as America's national emblem as far as birds go, than

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<v Speaker 1>he was the bald eagle. He had a big problem

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<v Speaker 1>with the fact that um eagles don't necessarily hunt as

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<v Speaker 1>much as bully other birds for whatever they just hunted. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>He said that the eagle does not get his living honestly,

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<v Speaker 1>he steals from the fishawk and it's too lazy to

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<v Speaker 1>fish for himself. The turkey, however, is much more respectable

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<v Speaker 1>a true original native, and a turkey would not hesitate

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<v Speaker 1>to attack a grenadier of the British Guard who should

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<v Speaker 1>presume to invade his farmyard. And after researching turkeys, um,

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<v Speaker 1>I daresay he was probably right about that. Yeah, and

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<v Speaker 1>the other thing that I'm surprised he didn't mention was

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<v Speaker 1>and also by the way, male turkeys during the breeding season,

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<v Speaker 1>literally their head and neck turns red white and blue. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>I noticed that too, Like that is so obvious, such

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<v Speaker 1>an obvious pick. Like at one point during the year,

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<v Speaker 1>you've got a red white and blue bird. Yeah, exactly,

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<v Speaker 1>let's see a bald eagle do so. The other thing,

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<v Speaker 1>the other reason why um, And I think a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of people think that Franklin said that that that that

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<v Speaker 1>needed to be like the Great Seal of the United States,

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<v Speaker 1>and that's not the case. He instead, i think, proposed

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<v Speaker 1>Moses is the Great Seal um, which is odd. But

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<v Speaker 1>another check in Ben Franklin's pro turkey stance is that

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<v Speaker 1>turkeys are indigenous to North America and there's actually we're

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<v Speaker 1>down to two species. UM. One the common turkey, which

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<v Speaker 1>is the kind that you or I or anybody else

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<v Speaker 1>living uh north of Mexico are familiar with. UM. They're

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<v Speaker 1>all over the place. They're all over the United States

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<v Speaker 1>and Canada. UM. But the weird thing is there's also

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<v Speaker 1>turkeys in Central and South America, and it turns out

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<v Speaker 1>that there are really hardy, adaptable species, and again way

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<v Speaker 1>smarter than than you probably give them credit for. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean turkeys they do like warm weather, but there

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<v Speaker 1>they can survive in a lot. Like you said, I

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<v Speaker 1>remember very distinctly when I lived in New Jersey one uh,

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<v Speaker 1>snowy morning looking into my backyard and there were it

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<v Speaker 1>was like a painting or something. There were three deer

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<v Speaker 1>in six wild turkey just walking together through the snow

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<v Speaker 1>in the backyard. And Um, I didn't know that they

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<v Speaker 1>would venture that far north, but they're all over the place.

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<v Speaker 1>Um they are. Uh did you say the name of

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<v Speaker 1>the ones in Mexico? The oscillated turkeys in the Yucatan

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<v Speaker 1>Peninsula and Guatemala and Belize. They are different looking than

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<v Speaker 1>the turkeys we know. They're smaller, a little shorter, they

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<v Speaker 1>have sort of a copper bronze copper bronze green plumage.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think the male turkeys have larger spurs and

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<v Speaker 1>do not have beards. And will explain what all that

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<v Speaker 1>is in a minute. Yeah, So if you're talking, if

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<v Speaker 1>you're talking turkey, specifically male turkey, another term former gobblers

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<v Speaker 1>or tom's for young young males, they're called Jake's. Love

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<v Speaker 1>that and then adult females are hens, and then hatchlings

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<v Speaker 1>babies of both sexes um are called poults p o

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<v Speaker 1>u l ts. Yeah, the adult female is going to

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<v Speaker 1>be about eight to eleven pounds, adult males about seventeen

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<v Speaker 1>to twenty one. Um. We mentioned you know, if you

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<v Speaker 1>look at a turkey, they've got all kinds of crazy

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<v Speaker 1>stuff going on on their head. They look they look like,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, something from a zombie movie. And and every

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<v Speaker 1>single adult turkey has what's called carnicles, a snood sounds

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<v Speaker 1>like Dr Seuss, and a do and a dow lap.

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<v Speaker 1>The carnicles are those those big fleshy things at the

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<v Speaker 1>bottom of the neck. The snood is the stuff that

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<v Speaker 1>protrudes from the top of the head and sort of

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<v Speaker 1>flaps over across the bill. And then that do lap

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<v Speaker 1>is that little thin skin under the throat that's so

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<v Speaker 1>uh tuggable. Yeah. And if it's just one thing of

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<v Speaker 1>skin that goes vertically down the neck in the front,

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<v Speaker 1>it's a do lap. If it has more than one, um,

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<v Speaker 1>it's called the wattle. But these these things, the coronicles,

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<v Speaker 1>the snood, and the dow lap are the things that

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<v Speaker 1>make turkeys outrageously ugly to humans. But ironically those are

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<v Speaker 1>the things that attract other turkeys. They like you said,

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<v Speaker 1>change color. They're unique to each turkey. Um, and they

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<v Speaker 1>are are like apparently if you're a female turkey, you're

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<v Speaker 1>looking for a guy with a longer snood. That's an

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<v Speaker 1>attractive thing to you. So I just find that really

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<v Speaker 1>great that like we're like that. It's just those things

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<v Speaker 1>are just so ugly. They could stop clock and to

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<v Speaker 1>the turkey, it's like, man, nice snood, buddy, you're looking good. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think chronicle, snood and dow lap would be

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<v Speaker 1>like a great name for a comedy bluegrass trio that

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<v Speaker 1>would be on he Hall or something. Oh my. Uh

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<v Speaker 1>So the beard that I mentioned to Uma with Burning

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<v Speaker 1>Florida reference no no um. For most turkey strains, the

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<v Speaker 1>males are the only ones who have a beard, and

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<v Speaker 1>that is this. It's a feather. It's a modified feather

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<v Speaker 1>sort of in the upper chest that keeps growing. It's

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<v Speaker 1>like a you know, if you have a one of

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<v Speaker 1>those rat tails actually want to grow out for life.

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<v Speaker 1>A lot of heat Hall references. I guess they grow

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<v Speaker 1>about three to five inches a year. And if Vernon

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<v Speaker 1>Florida is to be um is for in Florida, is correct?

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<v Speaker 1>Then Mr Ships would point out that the longer the beard,

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<v Speaker 1>the more sort of prize trophy it is. If you're

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<v Speaker 1>a turkey hunter, like that'd be akin to a large

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<v Speaker 1>rack of antlers because they mount the beard on a

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<v Speaker 1>little plaque. Um right. Uh. The other thing about male

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<v Speaker 1>turkeys that you can differentiate from a female, Um, Well,

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<v Speaker 1>females have feathers that go up the back of their head,

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<v Speaker 1>so it looks like they have a little mullet going on.

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<v Speaker 1>Males do not. They have a bear head. And then

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<v Speaker 1>males also have spurs like um do claws almost coming

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<v Speaker 1>off of their legs and uh, hands typically don't right,

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<v Speaker 1>And like I said, those males during breeding season they turn.

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<v Speaker 1>The carnicles go red, the white is the crown of

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<v Speaker 1>the head, and then the neck on the side of

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<v Speaker 1>the face go blue. And there's just nothing more American

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<v Speaker 1>than that. It's true. But that's just the gobblers, right.

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<v Speaker 1>The hands don't turn. Yeah, so um, like you said,

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<v Speaker 1>and I think I said first, you can find turkeys

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<v Speaker 1>all over the place and all sorts of different conditions. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>whether it's hot out, whether it's covered in snow, whether

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<v Speaker 1>there's deer around, who cares. Turkeys are down for hanging out. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>They just need, or I should say, prefer, certain kinds

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<v Speaker 1>of habitats um huge trees in a mature forest, and

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<v Speaker 1>typically they want mass bearing trees and mast. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>remember what we were talking about recently. Oh, I think

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<v Speaker 1>it was squirrels hiding nuts. Mast is like one of

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<v Speaker 1>my favorite words of all time. It's just so earthy

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<v Speaker 1>and natural. I just love it. Um. But it means

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<v Speaker 1>like acorns and um, like tree nuts that that you

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<v Speaker 1>can find in North America. And that's one of the

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<v Speaker 1>things that turkeys e. So they need lots of trees

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<v Speaker 1>that have lots of masts. And the other thing is

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<v Speaker 1>that trees are roosting sites turkeys. Although they're not typically

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<v Speaker 1>thought of as able to fly, they can't fly for

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<v Speaker 1>short distances and they roost in trees at night, which

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think I've ever seen a turkey in a tree.

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<v Speaker 1>I haven't either. Um, you know, I see turkeys quite

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<v Speaker 1>a bit on the side of the road or taking

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<v Speaker 1>hikes and stuff like that. But I guess it's because

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<v Speaker 1>at night. I'm not hiking at night that I have

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<v Speaker 1>never seen a turkey in a tree. Well, sure, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>because they're diurnal, right, Well, yeah, I'm just saying that

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<v Speaker 1>that must be the reason. Like I always see turkey

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<v Speaker 1>sort of just pecking around on the trail. I think

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<v Speaker 1>that's the I was laughing because you said you made

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<v Speaker 1>it sound like the turkeys were hiking going on. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>they're technically, I guess I can see in with like

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<v Speaker 1>big chunky socks on and vast boots. Just being all serious,

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<v Speaker 1>but you mentioned their range. Their home range is what

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<v Speaker 1>it's called, and their home range is dictated by how

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<v Speaker 1>much food is around, how much of that mast is around,

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<v Speaker 1>and if they you know, they have pretty big ranges anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>but if there's a lot of food around, then they

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<v Speaker 1>may maintain like four hundred to a thousand acres, which

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<v Speaker 1>is huge, and that's if it's abundant. If they don't

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<v Speaker 1>have a lot of food around, they have been known

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<v Speaker 1>to maintain ranges of eight thousand acres or more and

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<v Speaker 1>travel up to fifty miles to different home ranges if

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<v Speaker 1>they can't, like they don't, uh, technically they don't migrate.

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<v Speaker 1>But the birds maintaining eight thousand acres and traveling fifty

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<v Speaker 1>miles they're they're migrating around kind of. Yeah, but I

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<v Speaker 1>mean that must be a really poor habitat because turkeys

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<v Speaker 1>are not picky eaters. Um. In addition to mast, they'll

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<v Speaker 1>eat everything from seeds to lizards and basically anything they

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<v Speaker 1>find that chock full of protein. They typically like things

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<v Speaker 1>like seeds, plants, fruit berries, that kind of stuff. But

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<v Speaker 1>they'll eat live animals um. Lead snake, Yeah, they lead

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<v Speaker 1>a snake. They'll lead into crazy yep. And and and then

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<v Speaker 1>particular when a turkey is born, the young turkey, the

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<v Speaker 1>poult for the first week or two of their life,

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<v Speaker 1>they're eating nothing but insects constantly. Yeah, And you know

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<v Speaker 1>that's why they prefer a range. Uh. They like that forest,

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<v Speaker 1>but they like the forest on the edge of some

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<v Speaker 1>grassy areas because that moves them. They get some closer

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<v Speaker 1>to those little insects that you're going to find for

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<v Speaker 1>those pols, right exactly. And that's actually where pols are

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<v Speaker 1>born and raised is in the grassy area at the

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<v Speaker 1>edge of a forest, which is pretty cool and just

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<v Speaker 1>quaint is all get out. It's so it's like cottage

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<v Speaker 1>core for animals, you know. Yeah. Uh, if you think

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<v Speaker 1>you that they may need to live near a lake

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<v Speaker 1>or something to get their water, or a river or

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<v Speaker 1>stream or any kind of wetland. You're wrong. Um, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>sure they love that kind of scenery, but they don't

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<v Speaker 1>need it for water. They can get water their water

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<v Speaker 1>intake from vegetation. They can get it from that morning

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<v Speaker 1>do um, succulent insects, little small pools. Um. They can

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<v Speaker 1>kind of forage through all that stuff to get enough water. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, like when there's like a lot of snow

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<v Speaker 1>on the ground, they don't hiberdate or anything, but they

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<v Speaker 1>go into like this kind of like uh, just hanging

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<v Speaker 1>around the tree for chill mode time. Yeah, chill mode

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<v Speaker 1>for sure. And the water intake is just a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit of snow that they're eating off of the tree,

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<v Speaker 1>and the food is maybe just a butt or two

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<v Speaker 1>that they can find on the tree they're sitting on. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and you know they do well. Turkeys are thriving, They

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<v Speaker 1>eat a lot. They One thing you will not see

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<v Speaker 1>very much unless they're sick is a skinny turkey under nurse.

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<v Speaker 1>Turkeys are pretty rare, like I said, unless there's some

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<v Speaker 1>sort of disease or maybe if it's like in the

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<v Speaker 1>middle of a really really long winter, they might the

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<v Speaker 1>thin up a little bit. But turkeys eat a lot

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<v Speaker 1>and they're they're generally pretty healthy and plump, right. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>So like we said, they're diurnal, right, they they are

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<v Speaker 1>active during the day just like us humans. Uh. And

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<v Speaker 1>you said they eat a lot, So they spend a

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<v Speaker 1>significant amount of time eating. Um. And when they eat,

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<v Speaker 1>they'll eat just about anything they can come across. But

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<v Speaker 1>when they eat, they eat the thing that they're eating whole,

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<v Speaker 1>especially if it's something soft like a berry. Right, they

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<v Speaker 1>just swallow a whole. It gets digested along the way

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<v Speaker 1>and they poop out whatever is left on the other side.

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<v Speaker 1>But they also eat things like seeds and nuts and

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<v Speaker 1>mass um. And they have a gizzard, which is like

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<v Speaker 1>a second stomach that hard stuff gets diverted to, and

0:14:45.040 --> 0:14:49.120
<v Speaker 1>it's this stomach is basically all muscle, and they also

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<v Speaker 1>eat while they're pecking around for food. They also eat

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<v Speaker 1>little pebbles and stones and bits of like hard things

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<v Speaker 1>like bone, and those things stay in their gizzard and

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<v Speaker 1>they become what are called gastro stones or gizzard stones,

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<v Speaker 1>and they end up basically like a rock tumbler that

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<v Speaker 1>crushes up things like seeds and mass that can then

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<v Speaker 1>be diverted over to the regular stomach for digestion, which

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<v Speaker 1>is pretty cool. Yeah. Another reason that I kind of

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<v Speaker 1>identify with turkeys is that they they do chill a lot.

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<v Speaker 1>They they get busy feeding and stuff and exploring around,

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<v Speaker 1>scraping around, pecking around at the ground. But after they

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<v Speaker 1>have eaten, they hang around for hours at a time.

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<v Speaker 1>They will preen. They will it's called dusting when they

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<v Speaker 1>just sort of move around in the loose soil. It's

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<v Speaker 1>a dirt bath. Yeah, and they kind of just rest

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<v Speaker 1>basically until a few hours before sunset and then they

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<v Speaker 1>start feeding again. And then this is this is amazing.

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<v Speaker 1>So right before nightfall though, they go back to those

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<v Speaker 1>trees at night to sleep. And if they get caught

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<v Speaker 1>sort of unaware, it's sort of like a vampire and

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<v Speaker 1>they look up and that sun's going down, they will

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<v Speaker 1>haul but back to their tree. Like they can run

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<v Speaker 1>tended twenty miles an hour and fly in short bursts

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<v Speaker 1>up to fifty five to get back to those trees.

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<v Speaker 1>Because one sundown comes if they're not in their little

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<v Speaker 1>homestead which offers a lot of protection there. Uh, they're

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<v Speaker 1>in big time. Danger for predators. Can you just see

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<v Speaker 1>a turkey like running back like gobble gobble gobble gobble

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<v Speaker 1>gobble gobble cobble babies. So um. What's what I find

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<v Speaker 1>interesting about them too, is is a lot of people

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<v Speaker 1>don't realize turkeys are extremely good at seeing and hearing.

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<v Speaker 1>We don't think that they're very good at smelling, but

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<v Speaker 1>their sight and their hearing are so amazing that it

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<v Speaker 1>really doesn't matter about the smell um. Apparently, they have

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<v Speaker 1>three times the acuity of the average humans eyesight um

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<v Speaker 1>and then in addition to that, they also see in color,

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<v Speaker 1>which is rare for a bird um. And they also

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<v Speaker 1>have between a two hundred and seventy and a three

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<v Speaker 1>hundred degree field of vision humans have about a hundred eighty.

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<v Speaker 1>And the reason why they can see so much around

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<v Speaker 1>them is because the turkey's eyes are on the side

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<v Speaker 1>of its head, which, on the one hand, gives them

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<v Speaker 1>a disadvantage. They don't have binocular vision like humans do,

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<v Speaker 1>so they have terrible depth perception, which is why you'll

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<v Speaker 1>see footage of a turkey looking at something and it'll

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<v Speaker 1>switch sides of its face that it's looking at you

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<v Speaker 1>because it's trying to discern depth that way, just kind

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<v Speaker 1>of quickly creating binocular vision like a flip book. But

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<v Speaker 1>what it lacks in binocular vision, it makes up for

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<v Speaker 1>with its incredible hearing because they're hearing is such they

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<v Speaker 1>can identify the location of a sound really, really well.

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<v Speaker 1>So they might not be able to see depth, but

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<v Speaker 1>they can hear depth in addition to all the amazing

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<v Speaker 1>stuff that they can see. You think we should take

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<v Speaker 1>a break. I just that's fine. I'm just gonna keep

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<v Speaker 1>talking through the break because I'm just so in love

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<v Speaker 1>with turkeys right now. All right, we'll be right. So,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, before the break you were talking about their

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<v Speaker 1>hearing um in Vernon, Florida. Which have you seen that yet? Still?

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<v Speaker 1>I know I have not gott I see it. Okay.

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<v Speaker 1>It's one of the one of the great um documentaries,

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<v Speaker 1>that is. But Mr Ship's really gives the like when

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<v Speaker 1>you listen to this man talk and I'm not a

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<v Speaker 1>hunter at all, but you really get a sense that

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<v Speaker 1>turkey hunting is one of the most challenging hunts that

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<v Speaker 1>you can undertake because of how smart, uh, how smart

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<v Speaker 1>they are and he he says, they're a smart boyd.

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<v Speaker 1>He's one of those guys always like that. Yeah yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>but um, how smart they are, and then that hearing

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<v Speaker 1>like you have to be so quiet and so all

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<v Speaker 1>of your movements have to be so deliberate, and even

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<v Speaker 1>the slightest like cracking of a stick, that turkey will

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<v Speaker 1>poke his head up and then just be gone out

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<v Speaker 1>of there. So um, although I'm not a hunter at

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<v Speaker 1>all and and don't would never shoot an animal, when

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<v Speaker 1>you listen to this guy, you can't help but be

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<v Speaker 1>sort of impressed with or maybe you just fall under

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<v Speaker 1>his spell. How much he loved it, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>So um yeah, so turkeys are really good at hearing,

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<v Speaker 1>they're really good at seeing, and they're easily spooked, which

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<v Speaker 1>all combined makes them very difficult to hunt. Yes, yeah

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<v Speaker 1>so uh as far as um, they're flocking and and

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<v Speaker 1>their behaviors. They live in separate flocks, the hens and

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<v Speaker 1>the toms do. And then once the spring comes around

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<v Speaker 1>and the days get longer, and then the warmer temperatures

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<v Speaker 1>sort of start coming in, then the males are to

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<v Speaker 1>leave their winter flocks and they're gonna start you know,

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<v Speaker 1>now it's it's time to party basically with the hens,

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<v Speaker 1>and they're gonna start, Like many animals, there are a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of rituals of trying to get their attention. They're gobbling.

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<v Speaker 1>They have a peak, a couple of peaks in gobbling,

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<v Speaker 1>and the first one is at the very beginning of

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<v Speaker 1>the breeding season, when there are a lot of hens

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<v Speaker 1>around and you're, you know, you're trying to make yourself

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<v Speaker 1>known as a worthy mail. Then you're gonna have a

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<v Speaker 1>second flock. After are most of the mating has taken place,

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<v Speaker 1>there are a lot less gobbling going on. And but

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<v Speaker 1>those males who didn't mate, or maybe they did, and

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<v Speaker 1>they're they're really trying to have another party. Basically that's

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<v Speaker 1>when their second peak is going to happen, right, But

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<v Speaker 1>in between those two peaks, there's less gobbling because by

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<v Speaker 1>that time the hens are like, all right, I'm into this,

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<v Speaker 1>so the males don't have to try as hard. And

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<v Speaker 1>apparently that second peak in gobbling is kind of the

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<v Speaker 1>more desperate. It's like a um, you know, at one

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<v Speaker 1>fifty am at the bar, Oh totally, it's like does

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<v Speaker 1>anyone anyone still want a party? Basically anybody around, but

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<v Speaker 1>you got to do it like the Night of the

0:21:10.720 --> 0:21:15.399
<v Speaker 1>Roxbury guys. But they're saying instead of him him, him,

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's Tom ken and will mate with multiple hens,

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<v Speaker 1>and hens actually may breed with the same mail more

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<v Speaker 1>than once. I don't think anyone has made any argument

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<v Speaker 1>that they're in love, but you never know. Let's say,

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<v Speaker 1>at the very least they have chemistry. They're also polygamous.

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<v Speaker 1>If you're in eastern wild Turkey, they think that they

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<v Speaker 1>sort of have a harem basically where you have a

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<v Speaker 1>bunch of different hens with one Tom until they've made it. Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>If you are out west, you might see what's called

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<v Speaker 1>a lek like system l e K, which is um,

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<v Speaker 1>it's basically ah, I mean it's sort of group mating

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<v Speaker 1>in group uh, group gobbling, like a bunch of Tom's

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<v Speaker 1>will get together and sort of cobble together a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of times. A group of siblings, like you know that,

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<v Speaker 1>you know those Carter boys, they get together and put

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<v Speaker 1>on quite a show for the ladies, that kind of thing.

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<v Speaker 1>And that actually makes sense. Um, the harem makes sense

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<v Speaker 1>because there's just such an abundance of turkeys that one

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<v Speaker 1>one Jake, you know, one Tom can mate with multiple

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<v Speaker 1>hands all at once, and you know the species continues.

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<v Speaker 1>But where it's more spread out for them to all

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<v Speaker 1>kind of come to one place. It makes sense because

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<v Speaker 1>it's much more convenient. Um. But also because all these

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<v Speaker 1>different displays of like manliness of tomliness, I guess um

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<v Speaker 1>really gets the hens in the mood. So it kind

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<v Speaker 1>of gets them prepared for mating much more quickly and

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<v Speaker 1>efficiently too, which is a real advantage of the of

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<v Speaker 1>the lex system. Yeah, and you actually did not misspeak

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<v Speaker 1>because Jake's can mate. Um, they're just way less successful

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<v Speaker 1>because they're Jake's. I met. Maybe there's some hens that

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<v Speaker 1>sit around and say, like, you know, I'm really more

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<v Speaker 1>into Jake's than Tom's because it was like Nancy, well,

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<v Speaker 1>I never um, but they do. Jake's actually can mate,

0:23:15.280 --> 0:23:18.600
<v Speaker 1>but you know, because it's because they are. They attract

0:23:18.640 --> 0:23:22.400
<v Speaker 1>females by those big shows and the best gobbles. They're

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<v Speaker 1>just usually not quite there yet. Yeah, and we'll talk

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit about I love if we always set

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<v Speaker 1>up like all the stuff we're gonna talk about in

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<v Speaker 1>every episode and then we actually talk about like maybe

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<v Speaker 1>seventy of it. But um, there's actually there's hierarchies and

0:23:36.800 --> 0:23:40.400
<v Speaker 1>turkey flocks which we'll talk about. But um, when like

0:23:40.560 --> 0:23:43.359
<v Speaker 1>the Carter brothers show up, or there's young Jake's and

0:23:43.440 --> 0:23:46.720
<v Speaker 1>older ones um. Depending on the dominance of the turkey,

0:23:46.760 --> 0:23:49.520
<v Speaker 1>that turkey is much more likely to actually mate. But

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<v Speaker 1>all the turkeys will be strutting their stuff, getting the

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<v Speaker 1>hens in the mood. It's really kind of this communal thing,

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<v Speaker 1>and that's that actually makes sense because turkeys, it turns out,

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<v Speaker 1>are super super social animals um. Which makes the fact

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<v Speaker 1>that the hens once they have made it uh and

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<v Speaker 1>go off to lay the eggs um, they do that themselves.

0:24:08.280 --> 0:24:12.760
<v Speaker 1>It's basically the one thing they do as individuals UM.

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<v Speaker 1>But they do like basically two a hand. They will

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<v Speaker 1>go off, they will find a nice grassy area at

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<v Speaker 1>the entrance of a nice um wood um, and they

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<v Speaker 1>will start laying eggs, and they'll lay one egg and

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<v Speaker 1>cover it up and then leave, and the next day,

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<v Speaker 1>usually about the same time, weirdly, they come back and

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<v Speaker 1>lay another egg, covered up, and then as they start

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<v Speaker 1>laying more and more eggs, they kind of reach like

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<v Speaker 1>this critical threshold to where they're like, Okay, I'm I'm

0:24:37.520 --> 0:24:40.280
<v Speaker 1>emotionally invested in these eggs. Now, I'm just gonna stay

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<v Speaker 1>around here and guard them. And then eventually incubate them,

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<v Speaker 1>and they do, and then about twenty four hours before

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<v Speaker 1>the eggs start to hatch chuck. They actually start making

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<v Speaker 1>um sounds, basically saying I'm I'm about to come out now. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's really cute. Uh, this little pipping sounds and this

0:24:58.440 --> 0:25:01.600
<v Speaker 1>pecking with and this is one of the cutest words

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<v Speaker 1>I've ever seen. The first little hole uh that these

0:25:05.040 --> 0:25:07.239
<v Speaker 1>things make from within the egg to get out is

0:25:07.480 --> 0:25:11.200
<v Speaker 1>made with an egg tooth. How cute is that? It

0:25:11.240 --> 0:25:13.480
<v Speaker 1>is very cute, But I mean the fact, can you

0:25:13.560 --> 0:25:17.680
<v Speaker 1>imagine seeing a little turkey egg pipping it's it's probably amazing.

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<v Speaker 1>And I know the hen is entrance because the hen

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<v Speaker 1>starts to make a little encouraging clucks like come along,

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<v Speaker 1>little fellows, let's get on out, Let's get on out.

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<v Speaker 1>And it could take about a day for all these

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<v Speaker 1>um polts to hatch, and they are very mobile from

0:25:34.280 --> 0:25:37.240
<v Speaker 1>the time they're hatched, but they are also very closely

0:25:37.280 --> 0:25:41.000
<v Speaker 1>bonded to mama hen and the siblings for a little while, um,

0:25:41.480 --> 0:25:43.679
<v Speaker 1>a pretty short while. For a couple of days, they

0:25:43.720 --> 0:25:48.440
<v Speaker 1>all sit around together. They um, they imprint on one

0:25:48.440 --> 0:25:51.119
<v Speaker 1>another and they one of the big things that they

0:25:51.160 --> 0:25:54.280
<v Speaker 1>do is they learn what mama sounds like. We'll get

0:25:54.320 --> 0:25:56.520
<v Speaker 1>to the calls later, but there's something card called an

0:25:56.560 --> 0:25:59.600
<v Speaker 1>alarm call, which is exactly what you think it is.

0:25:59.640 --> 0:26:03.040
<v Speaker 1>It's very very important way to say, hey, everybody, get

0:26:03.080 --> 0:26:05.680
<v Speaker 1>out of here. There's a you know, there's a raccoon

0:26:05.800 --> 0:26:08.840
<v Speaker 1>or a or a bobcat in the woods or something.

0:26:09.680 --> 0:26:13.120
<v Speaker 1>And they have to learn their own mother's alarm call.

0:26:13.200 --> 0:26:15.199
<v Speaker 1>And that's what they're doing in large part for those

0:26:15.200 --> 0:26:18.040
<v Speaker 1>first couple of days. Yeah, and within the first couple

0:26:18.040 --> 0:26:20.800
<v Speaker 1>of days and actually, um, a couple of weeks, they

0:26:20.840 --> 0:26:25.280
<v Speaker 1>can't fly, so they're real vulnerable because remember the mom

0:26:25.400 --> 0:26:29.600
<v Speaker 1>nests in in like grassland, not in the trees. Um.

0:26:29.680 --> 0:26:32.159
<v Speaker 1>So until they can fly, they can't roost in trees.

0:26:32.520 --> 0:26:36.080
<v Speaker 1>So they're they're big defense is to just scatter and

0:26:36.160 --> 0:26:40.679
<v Speaker 1>stay still. Yeah, and like as in frozen still for

0:26:40.800 --> 0:26:43.240
<v Speaker 1>up to a half an hour. If they hear that

0:26:43.280 --> 0:26:47.520
<v Speaker 1>alarm call. These little baby turkeys will just freeze like mannequins.

0:26:48.320 --> 0:26:51.440
<v Speaker 1>It's amazing, it is amazing. Um. One of the things

0:26:51.560 --> 0:26:56.480
<v Speaker 1>when a mother hen gives birth to a brood of poults,

0:26:56.960 --> 0:27:00.720
<v Speaker 1>they're usually there's a one to one ratio between males

0:27:00.760 --> 0:27:05.359
<v Speaker 1>and females, between jakes and baby hens, which I found

0:27:05.359 --> 0:27:10.239
<v Speaker 1>pretty amazing unless chuck something else happens. Yeah, this is

0:27:10.320 --> 0:27:12.800
<v Speaker 1>you know. I feel like usually when we cover animals

0:27:12.800 --> 0:27:17.000
<v Speaker 1>there's always one really astounding adaptation that we cover a

0:27:17.040 --> 0:27:19.440
<v Speaker 1>lot of times more than one. But in the case

0:27:19.480 --> 0:27:23.919
<v Speaker 1>of turkeys, they these hens. If they don't find a

0:27:23.960 --> 0:27:27.000
<v Speaker 1>mate and don't mate, they can still have little babies

0:27:27.440 --> 0:27:32.720
<v Speaker 1>through parthenogenesis. They can produce viable eggs. It doesn't happen

0:27:32.760 --> 0:27:37.919
<v Speaker 1>a lot, it seems like, and the embryos um I

0:27:37.960 --> 0:27:40.919
<v Speaker 1>think very few of them survive, but it is it

0:27:41.080 --> 0:27:45.399
<v Speaker 1>is medically impossible for a hen to to produce a

0:27:45.400 --> 0:27:48.080
<v Speaker 1>little baby eggs and have one. And if they do

0:27:48.680 --> 0:27:51.320
<v Speaker 1>have one and it actually lives, it is going to

0:27:51.359 --> 0:27:56.560
<v Speaker 1>be a male hatchling always, which is counterintuitive to me.

0:27:56.600 --> 0:27:59.600
<v Speaker 1>I think if it's an eleven uh, if it's an

0:27:59.600 --> 0:28:04.720
<v Speaker 1>evolution anary adaptation, would seem like they would be female. Yeah,

0:28:04.760 --> 0:28:07.840
<v Speaker 1>I don't know, but it's like bees, like, aren't aren't

0:28:08.240 --> 0:28:13.080
<v Speaker 1>n unfertilized be eggs don't they turn into male drones

0:28:13.119 --> 0:28:15.920
<v Speaker 1>And it's just the fertilized ones that become female workers.

0:28:16.560 --> 0:28:19.640
<v Speaker 1>I don't remember. I'm pretty sure if I remember correctly.

0:28:19.680 --> 0:28:21.840
<v Speaker 1>So it's weird that it would it would happen like that,

0:28:21.880 --> 0:28:25.840
<v Speaker 1>But yeah, that's a pretty rare occurrence, that parton a genesis,

0:28:25.920 --> 0:28:31.159
<v Speaker 1>you know. Yeah, So, um, now you've got all the

0:28:31.280 --> 0:28:33.879
<v Speaker 1>all the little pols have hatched, and they've they've been

0:28:33.960 --> 0:28:36.720
<v Speaker 1>running around eating bugs in the grass, and it's been

0:28:36.760 --> 0:28:39.280
<v Speaker 1>about seventeen days and now they can fly. So they're

0:28:39.280 --> 0:28:42.280
<v Speaker 1>starting to roost in the tree. And at first, adorably,

0:28:42.680 --> 0:28:45.080
<v Speaker 1>they're still scared little babies, so they roost under their

0:28:45.120 --> 0:28:46.960
<v Speaker 1>mother's wing at night. But as they get a little

0:28:47.000 --> 0:28:50.200
<v Speaker 1>more confident, they'll start to spread out into some of

0:28:50.240 --> 0:28:53.400
<v Speaker 1>the surrounding branches of the tree and the roost um.

0:28:53.440 --> 0:28:56.160
<v Speaker 1>And what you've got now is a new flock of turkeys.

0:28:56.520 --> 0:29:00.360
<v Speaker 1>But like I was saying, turkeys are extremely social creachers,

0:29:00.520 --> 0:29:04.560
<v Speaker 1>so those flocks typically tend to join other flocks, especially

0:29:04.600 --> 0:29:08.640
<v Speaker 1>mother hens with new poults, they'll live with other flocks

0:29:08.680 --> 0:29:12.560
<v Speaker 1>of um mother hens with their own pulse, and they'll

0:29:12.600 --> 0:29:15.200
<v Speaker 1>become these kind of like huge mega flocks where you know,

0:29:15.240 --> 0:29:17.520
<v Speaker 1>if you walk through at night, it seemed like every

0:29:17.520 --> 0:29:20.360
<v Speaker 1>branch of every tree around you was filled with turkeys,

0:29:20.440 --> 0:29:24.120
<v Speaker 1>and that would happen probably sometime in the spring, like

0:29:24.160 --> 0:29:27.760
<v Speaker 1>the early mid spring, after the eggs have hatched and

0:29:27.880 --> 0:29:30.120
<v Speaker 1>the babies are all now roosting in the trees with

0:29:30.160 --> 0:29:34.040
<v Speaker 1>their moms. Yeah, and here's another one that really tugged

0:29:34.040 --> 0:29:37.080
<v Speaker 1>on my heart strings a lot of times. Once they

0:29:37.080 --> 0:29:40.200
<v Speaker 1>have joined these other flocks, if you are the only

0:29:40.360 --> 0:29:42.280
<v Speaker 1>if you don't have any siblings, if you're the only

0:29:42.320 --> 0:29:46.760
<v Speaker 1>survivor of your hatch, um, you will oftentimes take up

0:29:46.800 --> 0:29:50.440
<v Speaker 1>with another mother hen and they will sort of adopt

0:29:50.520 --> 0:29:53.120
<v Speaker 1>you into their little family so you can have siblings.

0:29:53.800 --> 0:29:57.160
<v Speaker 1>And if that doesn't knock your socks off, they also

0:29:57.240 --> 0:30:02.720
<v Speaker 1>adopt the original mom to come along. Yeah, me too. Basically,

0:30:02.760 --> 0:30:05.360
<v Speaker 1>they are just like, come and join our family. You

0:30:05.440 --> 0:30:08.840
<v Speaker 1>only had one little baby that lived, and they need

0:30:08.880 --> 0:30:10.680
<v Speaker 1>some siblings, So why don't you and your in your

0:30:10.720 --> 0:30:13.280
<v Speaker 1>little hatchling come along and your little polt and join us,

0:30:13.480 --> 0:30:19.880
<v Speaker 1>Come have Thanksgiving with us. That's they don't say that word. So, um,

0:30:19.920 --> 0:30:21.960
<v Speaker 1>you've got the T word is what they say. Yeah,

0:30:22.000 --> 0:30:26.320
<v Speaker 1>T day. Um. So there's there's that's one kind of flock.

0:30:26.400 --> 0:30:29.000
<v Speaker 1>There's also a lot of um Like the Jake's the

0:30:29.520 --> 0:30:33.240
<v Speaker 1>young males in the um. That flock will continue to

0:30:33.280 --> 0:30:36.520
<v Speaker 1>stay until I believe the fall and they'll leave and

0:30:36.560 --> 0:30:39.200
<v Speaker 1>they'll go for mother flocks with other jake's and sometimes

0:30:39.560 --> 0:30:43.520
<v Speaker 1>um older gobblers and UM especially with their siblings too.

0:30:43.520 --> 0:30:46.040
<v Speaker 1>They'll hang out with them UM and then it'll the

0:30:47.200 --> 0:30:49.280
<v Speaker 1>young hands and the mother hans will stay together and

0:30:49.360 --> 0:30:52.080
<v Speaker 1>form their own flocks. So there's different flocks. But turkeys

0:30:52.120 --> 0:30:55.560
<v Speaker 1>are so social that they've been found too. If you

0:30:55.640 --> 0:30:58.840
<v Speaker 1>take a bird a turkey from its flock and put

0:30:58.840 --> 0:31:01.120
<v Speaker 1>it somewhere else, it'll base really just stand in one

0:31:01.200 --> 0:31:05.120
<v Speaker 1>spot and make a scared sound until you take the

0:31:05.560 --> 0:31:08.000
<v Speaker 1>turkey and put it back with its flock. Like they

0:31:08.040 --> 0:31:11.280
<v Speaker 1>have been shown to be basically debilitated when they removed

0:31:11.280 --> 0:31:14.680
<v Speaker 1>from their flock. And I was watching this video UM

0:31:14.760 --> 0:31:20.320
<v Speaker 1>called turkey and dog best friends are inseparable. Those are

0:31:20.320 --> 0:31:22.720
<v Speaker 1>the best things on the internet. So this turkey and

0:31:22.760 --> 0:31:26.760
<v Speaker 1>this dog, like, seriously, we're housemates, friends, like really great friends.

0:31:26.800 --> 0:31:29.920
<v Speaker 1>And the woman who adopted the turkey, I think as

0:31:29.920 --> 0:31:32.480
<v Speaker 1>a poult um was like, well, you know, the turkey

0:31:32.520 --> 0:31:34.520
<v Speaker 1>needs to be on a farm with other turkeys, so

0:31:34.600 --> 0:31:36.800
<v Speaker 1>she took it to a farm to go live its

0:31:36.840 --> 0:31:39.360
<v Speaker 1>life as a turkey on a turkey farm. And it

0:31:39.440 --> 0:31:41.920
<v Speaker 1>did the same thing that I've just described. It just

0:31:41.960 --> 0:31:44.920
<v Speaker 1>stood in one spot in the barnyard and made this

0:31:45.000 --> 0:31:48.880
<v Speaker 1>horrible call for I think three days. She let it

0:31:48.920 --> 0:31:50.760
<v Speaker 1>go on and finally was like, fine, come back home.

0:31:51.080 --> 0:31:52.480
<v Speaker 1>Right when she got it back home with the dog,

0:31:52.520 --> 0:31:54.600
<v Speaker 1>the turkey stopped and was back home and has been

0:31:54.640 --> 0:31:58.720
<v Speaker 1>there ever since. It's definitely worth watching that video. That

0:31:58.760 --> 0:32:01.040
<v Speaker 1>will if you're like, I don't know, I still like

0:32:01.080 --> 0:32:03.720
<v Speaker 1>to eat turkeys, and once you watch that one, that's

0:32:03.800 --> 0:32:06.120
<v Speaker 1>that's gonna be it for you. Pal. You can't eat

0:32:06.120 --> 0:32:09.960
<v Speaker 1>turkeys or dogs anymore. No, I can't eat pigs either.

0:32:10.960 --> 0:32:14.600
<v Speaker 1>So another I guess we mentioned the alarm call. Turkeys

0:32:14.960 --> 0:32:18.680
<v Speaker 1>have an astounding ability to communicate with each other. They

0:32:18.720 --> 0:32:21.920
<v Speaker 1>have a lot of different vocalizations. Mr Henry Ship's talks

0:32:21.920 --> 0:32:24.800
<v Speaker 1>about a lot of those, the different kinds of gobbles

0:32:24.800 --> 0:32:27.280
<v Speaker 1>that a turkey hunter has to be acquainted with and

0:32:27.360 --> 0:32:31.840
<v Speaker 1>make yourself to uh to attract turkeys. But there he

0:32:31.920 --> 0:32:34.719
<v Speaker 1>calls them yeps. Of course, there are three kinds of yelps.

0:32:35.520 --> 0:32:38.760
<v Speaker 1>There's the tree yelp, the plane yelp, and the plane

0:32:38.880 --> 0:32:41.680
<v Speaker 1>lost call uh and then there are a couple of

0:32:41.720 --> 0:32:45.280
<v Speaker 1>basic calls, the clock and the alarm put and then

0:32:45.480 --> 0:32:48.520
<v Speaker 1>a few other just uh complex calls. There's the cackle

0:32:48.560 --> 0:32:52.000
<v Speaker 1>of the gobble and what's called the ki ki, But

0:32:52.080 --> 0:32:53.960
<v Speaker 1>that tree yelp is what they're gonna make that sort

0:32:54.000 --> 0:32:56.400
<v Speaker 1>of their morning routine. The first thing they do in

0:32:56.440 --> 0:33:01.000
<v Speaker 1>the morning is start tree yelping, and it's basically like, hey, everybody,

0:33:01.040 --> 0:33:04.560
<v Speaker 1>good morning, how did you sleep, Good morning? Good morning.

0:33:06.000 --> 0:33:09.959
<v Speaker 1>There's the plane yelp, which is like, um, like just

0:33:10.080 --> 0:33:12.520
<v Speaker 1>during the day, if you want to say, hey, everybody,

0:33:12.560 --> 0:33:15.600
<v Speaker 1>let's let's come huddle up over here. Because when they

0:33:15.640 --> 0:33:18.160
<v Speaker 1>eat as a flock, they might spread out over a

0:33:18.240 --> 0:33:22.200
<v Speaker 1>quarter acre, but we've seen that they will always have

0:33:22.280 --> 0:33:25.520
<v Speaker 1>at least one constantly looking out and they'll trade that

0:33:25.680 --> 0:33:28.760
<v Speaker 1>job off, but there's always at least one bird looking

0:33:28.760 --> 0:33:30.360
<v Speaker 1>out for the rest of the flock ready to make.

0:33:30.400 --> 0:33:32.800
<v Speaker 1>A call. Might be a plane plane yelp, it might

0:33:32.800 --> 0:33:35.600
<v Speaker 1>be an alarm putt, but whatever that that is, it's

0:33:35.600 --> 0:33:38.880
<v Speaker 1>going to get the bird's attention very quickly. Right then

0:33:38.880 --> 0:33:41.440
<v Speaker 1>you have that plane lost call. It's sort of like

0:33:41.480 --> 0:33:44.480
<v Speaker 1>the plane yelp, but it's usually louder. It's got some

0:33:44.480 --> 0:33:48.440
<v Speaker 1>more urgency to it, um, and that they think is

0:33:48.520 --> 0:33:52.239
<v Speaker 1>more for family. It's like, hey, you and all your

0:33:52.240 --> 0:33:56.240
<v Speaker 1>brothers and sisters, get over here. Toot sweet yeah. Um.

0:33:56.280 --> 0:34:03.000
<v Speaker 1>There's also what else? The cluck, which is to say, hey, hey, chuck, cluck, cluck, cluck, chuck,

0:34:03.280 --> 0:34:08.080
<v Speaker 1>you look up what and I say, I forgot. I

0:34:08.120 --> 0:34:10.880
<v Speaker 1>was gonna say, you go back to eating. I just

0:34:10.880 --> 0:34:14.160
<v Speaker 1>said specific to a person, meaning a turkey person, right,

0:34:15.200 --> 0:34:18.880
<v Speaker 1>a tom or a him. Um, there's that alarm put

0:34:18.960 --> 0:34:21.720
<v Speaker 1>put which is basically like, hey, everybody, there's something weird

0:34:21.760 --> 0:34:25.440
<v Speaker 1>going on. The kiki is if a little poult or

0:34:25.480 --> 0:34:28.120
<v Speaker 1>a younger turkey is a little worried and wants to

0:34:28.160 --> 0:34:31.439
<v Speaker 1>be reassured or what, doesn't know where everybody is. That's

0:34:31.480 --> 0:34:33.840
<v Speaker 1>probably a pretty cute one. I listened to some of

0:34:33.840 --> 0:34:38.320
<v Speaker 1>these and um, they're not they're not. It's not on

0:34:38.440 --> 0:34:41.319
<v Speaker 1>a monopeia Like the ki ki doesn't sound like a

0:34:41.400 --> 0:34:43.520
<v Speaker 1>key key to me. I don't know what they're talking about,

0:34:43.520 --> 0:34:46.840
<v Speaker 1>but it sounds like a wine almost. It's weird. And

0:34:46.840 --> 0:34:50.799
<v Speaker 1>then you have the cackle, which, um, that's sort of

0:34:50.880 --> 0:34:53.040
<v Speaker 1>like hello and goodbye when you're coming into your rooster.

0:34:53.120 --> 0:34:56.280
<v Speaker 1>You're leaving in your roost, you're gonna cackle and say

0:34:56.320 --> 0:35:02.200
<v Speaker 1>I'm here, all right. Gobble. Everybody knows the gobble. But

0:35:02.200 --> 0:35:05.120
<v Speaker 1>it turns out that's actually not that frequent a sound.

0:35:05.120 --> 0:35:07.080
<v Speaker 1>It's one of the least frequent sounds they make because

0:35:07.400 --> 0:35:11.320
<v Speaker 1>it's typically made by Tom's when they're strutting their stuff

0:35:11.400 --> 0:35:15.359
<v Speaker 1>for you know, mating to you know, get it on,

0:35:16.760 --> 0:35:20.800
<v Speaker 1>literally strutting their stuff right. Um. And then here is

0:35:20.840 --> 0:35:24.520
<v Speaker 1>one of the facts of this chock full of fact podcasts.

0:35:25.200 --> 0:35:29.359
<v Speaker 1>Turkeys per and when they purr, it's quite obvious they're

0:35:29.360 --> 0:35:33.960
<v Speaker 1>purring with contentment, exactly like a cat. Yeah, it's pretty neat.

0:35:34.000 --> 0:35:36.440
<v Speaker 1>I saw another video of a turkey being stroked and

0:35:36.520 --> 0:35:40.440
<v Speaker 1>petted and it just crawled up on the person's lap purring.

0:35:41.560 --> 0:35:44.000
<v Speaker 1>So the other thing when they're when they've laid these

0:35:44.000 --> 0:35:48.480
<v Speaker 1>eggs and everything they and incubating, they will turn them periodically,

0:35:48.800 --> 0:35:50.800
<v Speaker 1>which is really great. And they're what they're doing that

0:35:51.040 --> 0:35:54.760
<v Speaker 1>is they're letting these letting the exchange oxygen and CEO

0:35:54.840 --> 0:35:57.840
<v Speaker 1>two as well as they think. And this makes a

0:35:57.840 --> 0:36:01.400
<v Speaker 1>lot of sense, keeping the little embryo from attaching to

0:36:01.440 --> 0:36:05.000
<v Speaker 1>one side of the egg. So if it starts to attach.

0:36:05.040 --> 0:36:07.839
<v Speaker 1>They'll just turn it and then it'll flop down and

0:36:07.880 --> 0:36:11.920
<v Speaker 1>not attach itself. And then there's also re nesting right

0:36:12.960 --> 0:36:16.120
<v Speaker 1>there is, which is basically like if the if the

0:36:16.120 --> 0:36:19.200
<v Speaker 1>turkey is disturbed during the nesting process, she may go

0:36:19.280 --> 0:36:21.960
<v Speaker 1>off and create a new nest. I get the impression

0:36:21.960 --> 0:36:24.960
<v Speaker 1>of the other eggs are abandoned, um or Remember we

0:36:25.040 --> 0:36:28.240
<v Speaker 1>said that she is emotionally invested after a certain point.

0:36:28.600 --> 0:36:31.279
<v Speaker 1>If she's disturbed, then she just abandons the nest and

0:36:31.719 --> 0:36:35.359
<v Speaker 1>doesn't do anymore nesting that season, which is very sad. Yeah,

0:36:35.400 --> 0:36:38.400
<v Speaker 1>that's super sad. So you want to take a break,

0:36:39.200 --> 0:37:09.239
<v Speaker 1>let's do it. Okay, we'll be right back, everybody, So Chuck,

0:37:09.280 --> 0:37:11.520
<v Speaker 1>I think at the beginning I was saying that turkeys

0:37:11.600 --> 0:37:15.240
<v Speaker 1>are way more intelligent than we think, and that's true,

0:37:15.920 --> 0:37:19.600
<v Speaker 1>right They a smart boy, one of the smartest we

0:37:19.680 --> 0:37:23.920
<v Speaker 1>got in this country. That's a good, good vern In Florida.

0:37:25.120 --> 0:37:27.600
<v Speaker 1>He's passed on, by the way, one of the cool uh.

0:37:27.640 --> 0:37:31.239
<v Speaker 1>And if you're interested in that movie, go see it.

0:37:31.320 --> 0:37:34.239
<v Speaker 1>And there's also a movie Crush episode where one of

0:37:34.280 --> 0:37:37.359
<v Speaker 1>my really really good friends, Mike comes on and talks

0:37:37.360 --> 0:37:40.880
<v Speaker 1>about vern In Florida and he actually struck up a

0:37:40.920 --> 0:37:44.960
<v Speaker 1>friendship with Henry Ship's via telephone for the remainder of

0:37:45.000 --> 0:37:49.359
<v Speaker 1>his life. Oh that's neat. That's a long telephone call. Well,

0:37:50.600 --> 0:37:52.080
<v Speaker 1>they talked off and on quite a bit. It was

0:37:52.120 --> 0:37:55.000
<v Speaker 1>really special. Yeah, I guess that's cool man. That's so

0:37:55.080 --> 0:37:57.200
<v Speaker 1>he just called him out of the blue. Yeah, he

0:37:57.280 --> 0:37:59.239
<v Speaker 1>and Henry, he would call him up, Well, hey, Mike,

0:37:59.280 --> 0:38:02.560
<v Speaker 1>how are you doing. But and this was twenty something

0:38:02.640 --> 0:38:04.920
<v Speaker 1>years after run in Florida was from the I think

0:38:04.960 --> 0:38:08.080
<v Speaker 1>early nineties or maybe even late eighties, and so he

0:38:08.160 --> 0:38:09.520
<v Speaker 1>just you know, he got a kick out of it

0:38:09.560 --> 0:38:12.720
<v Speaker 1>that that Mike thought he was famous. That's cool. That's

0:38:12.800 --> 0:38:15.520
<v Speaker 1>cool man. So you never answered my Oh yeah, you

0:38:15.520 --> 0:38:17.960
<v Speaker 1>did kind of answer my question. Turkeys are rather smart.

0:38:18.440 --> 0:38:23.240
<v Speaker 1>There's a a longstanding myth that turkeys are so stupid

0:38:23.680 --> 0:38:26.480
<v Speaker 1>they'll actually drown when it's raining because they look up

0:38:26.520 --> 0:38:29.000
<v Speaker 1>at the rain and the rain falls down their gullet

0:38:29.080 --> 0:38:33.600
<v Speaker 1>and draw them. That that's true. I've heard that before.

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<v Speaker 1>H it's true that there's a myth. The myth itself

0:38:36.400 --> 0:38:40.760
<v Speaker 1>is totally totally wrong. Um, that's been observed. Something similar

0:38:40.800 --> 0:38:44.880
<v Speaker 1>has been observed mistakenly in domesticated birds, meaning like factory

0:38:44.880 --> 0:38:48.200
<v Speaker 1>farm turkeys, and um, they've actually shown that if that

0:38:48.400 --> 0:38:52.279
<v Speaker 1>has ever happened, it's not the turkey looking up to

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<v Speaker 1>see the rain, because the turkey wouldn't look up to

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<v Speaker 1>see something above. It would look from the side of

0:38:58.719 --> 0:39:02.080
<v Speaker 1>its head because it has mon pocular vision yea, so

0:39:02.120 --> 0:39:03.840
<v Speaker 1>it wouldn't be looking at the rain. And if it

0:39:03.960 --> 0:39:06.160
<v Speaker 1>is looking up and has ever drowned or something or

0:39:06.160 --> 0:39:07.879
<v Speaker 1>seemed to have drowned, it was because it was having

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<v Speaker 1>a certain kind of seizure that apparently domesticated factory farm

0:39:11.920 --> 0:39:16.600
<v Speaker 1>turkeys have as a general condition. They have seizures and

0:39:16.640 --> 0:39:20.560
<v Speaker 1>actually die from those kind of seizures fairly frequently. So

0:39:20.719 --> 0:39:24.640
<v Speaker 1>they think some farm worker saw turkey have a seizure

0:39:24.680 --> 0:39:27.839
<v Speaker 1>while I was looking up while it was raining and

0:39:27.880 --> 0:39:30.359
<v Speaker 1>died and that actually might have given birth to this

0:39:31.160 --> 0:39:38.440
<v Speaker 1>incredibly wrong myth. It turns out that was my cousin. Uh.

0:39:38.480 --> 0:39:41.400
<v Speaker 1>They are smart and they have great memories, which is

0:39:41.960 --> 0:39:43.960
<v Speaker 1>you know, in the animal kingdom, memory is is a

0:39:44.920 --> 0:39:46.799
<v Speaker 1>is an interesting thing and a lot of times a

0:39:46.800 --> 0:39:50.479
<v Speaker 1>pretty good indicator of intelligence and just something more going

0:39:50.520 --> 0:39:53.960
<v Speaker 1>on there. Uh. Whild turkeys have a great memory. They

0:39:54.200 --> 0:39:58.279
<v Speaker 1>can remember very precise locations. They can go back to

0:39:58.360 --> 0:40:02.080
<v Speaker 1>the same location miles away at the same exact time

0:40:02.120 --> 0:40:05.120
<v Speaker 1>of day to get food, so they have a really

0:40:05.120 --> 0:40:08.240
<v Speaker 1>good internal clock as well. And uh hands and Tom's.

0:40:08.840 --> 0:40:12.279
<v Speaker 1>They can also chuck supposedly differentiate human faces, so like

0:40:12.320 --> 0:40:16.560
<v Speaker 1>they can tell humans who are different based on their face,

0:40:17.160 --> 0:40:21.759
<v Speaker 1>which is pretty smart if you ask me. Oh, totally. Um,

0:40:21.800 --> 0:40:25.120
<v Speaker 1>they can be a nuisance if you like have a farm. Um,

0:40:25.200 --> 0:40:32.160
<v Speaker 1>they're they're droppings can carry disease at times, but they

0:40:32.520 --> 0:40:35.759
<v Speaker 1>you know, they're easily scared. Like you said, like there's

0:40:35.760 --> 0:40:37.960
<v Speaker 1>a list of things and how to get rid of turkeys,

0:40:38.480 --> 0:40:41.880
<v Speaker 1>um that we came up with. Uh, well it didn't invent,

0:40:41.920 --> 0:40:44.680
<v Speaker 1>but came up with from experts. They've been testing them

0:40:44.680 --> 0:40:47.000
<v Speaker 1>out all week and it seems like all of them

0:40:47.080 --> 0:40:50.040
<v Speaker 1>are like you know, turkeys get scared super easily. So

0:40:50.400 --> 0:40:52.759
<v Speaker 1>scare them off or if they're a real problem on

0:40:52.800 --> 0:40:56.839
<v Speaker 1>your property, put up a uh a motion activated scarecrow

0:40:57.040 --> 0:41:00.279
<v Speaker 1>or water sprinkler or something like that. Um, any kind

0:41:00.280 --> 0:41:02.200
<v Speaker 1>of loud noise, flailing your arms. I don't get rid

0:41:02.239 --> 0:41:04.799
<v Speaker 1>of turkeys. They just they they're scared of you. They

0:41:04.800 --> 0:41:06.640
<v Speaker 1>want to get out of there. They're not aggressive. They

0:41:06.800 --> 0:41:09.320
<v Speaker 1>can be intimidating if you're a kid because they're big.

0:41:09.719 --> 0:41:12.200
<v Speaker 1>But even a kid's gonna scare a turkey off. Yeah,

0:41:12.320 --> 0:41:14.879
<v Speaker 1>they they are easy to scare off, but they can

0:41:14.920 --> 0:41:18.279
<v Speaker 1>also be really intimidating and aggressive, especially if it's a

0:41:18.360 --> 0:41:21.719
<v Speaker 1>tom during mating season. Um. So you're supposed to do

0:41:21.760 --> 0:41:24.240
<v Speaker 1>the same thing to turkeys that you do to coyotes,

0:41:24.280 --> 0:41:26.960
<v Speaker 1>and it's called hazing, where you show them your dominant

0:41:26.960 --> 0:41:30.319
<v Speaker 1>and you can do it by everything from turning the

0:41:30.360 --> 0:41:33.680
<v Speaker 1>hose on them, um, throwing a tennis ball in their

0:41:33.680 --> 0:41:36.680
<v Speaker 1>general direction. Opening umbrella is a big one. But you're

0:41:36.719 --> 0:41:38.839
<v Speaker 1>basically saying like, I'm not scared of you, and in fact,

0:41:38.880 --> 0:41:41.759
<v Speaker 1>I'm going to scare you off. Because if you don't

0:41:41.800 --> 0:41:44.719
<v Speaker 1>do that, apparently, then they become increasingly more difficult to

0:41:44.719 --> 0:41:47.680
<v Speaker 1>get rid of because they think they're dominant to you

0:41:47.840 --> 0:41:50.719
<v Speaker 1>or say a family member. And if you combine that

0:41:50.760 --> 0:41:53.440
<v Speaker 1>with somebody, whether it's you or a neighbor or something,

0:41:53.520 --> 0:41:56.640
<v Speaker 1>feeding the turkeys or even letting them eat bird seed

0:41:56.640 --> 0:41:59.520
<v Speaker 1>out of your bird feeder, Um, that's a that that

0:41:59.600 --> 0:42:01.919
<v Speaker 1>that can be a problem, actually, especially if you don't

0:42:01.960 --> 0:42:04.959
<v Speaker 1>like turkeys running at you. Yeah, and the other really

0:42:04.960 --> 0:42:08.360
<v Speaker 1>cool fact about hazing as they say that, like everyone

0:42:08.440 --> 0:42:09.839
<v Speaker 1>in your family has to do it. If you want

0:42:09.840 --> 0:42:11.919
<v Speaker 1>to solve your turkey problem, Like you've got to get

0:42:12.160 --> 0:42:14.040
<v Speaker 1>if grandma lives there, she's got to get out there

0:42:14.040 --> 0:42:16.439
<v Speaker 1>and haze that turkey. If you've got a four year old,

0:42:16.520 --> 0:42:18.600
<v Speaker 1>you gotta send that four year old out there to

0:42:18.719 --> 0:42:21.880
<v Speaker 1>haze that turkey supervised, I would imagine. But like every

0:42:21.880 --> 0:42:25.239
<v Speaker 1>person in that house has to exert their dominance. Yeah,

0:42:25.320 --> 0:42:29.680
<v Speaker 1>exert it with extreme prejudice all over that turkey. Gross.

0:42:30.760 --> 0:42:34.279
<v Speaker 1>So um, I guess that's it. One thing I saw chuck.

0:42:34.400 --> 0:42:39.080
<v Speaker 1>For Thanksgiving today, eight percent of Americans will eat turkey,

0:42:39.239 --> 0:42:41.759
<v Speaker 1>which actually, which seems right, doesn't seem high or low.

0:42:42.600 --> 0:42:45.759
<v Speaker 1>But get this, that translates to seven million pounds of

0:42:45.760 --> 0:42:50.360
<v Speaker 1>turkey on average, or forty six million turkeys all killed

0:42:50.360 --> 0:42:54.359
<v Speaker 1>and eating on a single day today. Goodness me. And

0:42:54.400 --> 0:42:56.640
<v Speaker 1>then that's a lot of turkeys. It's a lot of turkeys.

0:42:57.280 --> 0:43:00.000
<v Speaker 1>Uh so, uh, if you want to know more about turkey,

0:43:00.000 --> 0:43:04.600
<v Speaker 1>he's go watch some turkey and dog friendship videos and

0:43:04.760 --> 0:43:07.200
<v Speaker 1>uh that might make you regret what you just had

0:43:07.200 --> 0:43:09.680
<v Speaker 1>to eat. And since I said that, it's time for

0:43:09.800 --> 0:43:14.920
<v Speaker 1>listener mail. Uh yeah, and before listener mail, I just

0:43:14.920 --> 0:43:17.520
<v Speaker 1>want to close the window on the Vernon, Florida thing

0:43:17.640 --> 0:43:20.480
<v Speaker 1>if you uh don't know what I'm talking about. It

0:43:20.520 --> 0:43:24.320
<v Speaker 1>was a documentary originally, and this fairly interesting. Errol Morris

0:43:24.320 --> 0:43:27.240
<v Speaker 1>went down to this sleepy town, like I said, Inland

0:43:27.239 --> 0:43:30.920
<v Speaker 1>in the Florida Panhandle to do a documentary on these

0:43:30.960 --> 0:43:34.200
<v Speaker 1>people that live there who would cut off their limbs

0:43:34.239 --> 0:43:37.719
<v Speaker 1>for insurance money. And that was they were. It was

0:43:37.760 --> 0:43:41.200
<v Speaker 1>called stub Town was the nickname he went down there.

0:43:41.760 --> 0:43:44.719
<v Speaker 1>No one would talk about it. Uh, And so he

0:43:44.920 --> 0:43:47.480
<v Speaker 1>found himself down there without a documentary subject all of

0:43:47.560 --> 0:43:50.880
<v Speaker 1>a sudden, and so he just, after talking to these people,

0:43:50.960 --> 0:43:54.239
<v Speaker 1>said well, this town is a documentary in and of itself.

0:43:54.920 --> 0:43:57.040
<v Speaker 1>And he just turned the camera on the citizens and

0:43:57.680 --> 0:44:00.200
<v Speaker 1>there's probably like ten or twelve of them. It's sort

0:44:00.200 --> 0:44:02.520
<v Speaker 1>of interviewed through the whole thing that that's cut together,

0:44:03.040 --> 0:44:04.960
<v Speaker 1>and that's all it is is these people that live

0:44:04.960 --> 0:44:07.560
<v Speaker 1>in Vernon, Florida. Pretty cool. Yeah, I need to see

0:44:07.600 --> 0:44:10.359
<v Speaker 1>it one day. Yeah it is. It is a cult

0:44:10.360 --> 0:44:14.480
<v Speaker 1>classic and a true documentary legend. It's really great. Uh So,

0:44:14.600 --> 0:44:17.719
<v Speaker 1>listener mail, this comes from Erica. Hey, Josh, Chuck and

0:44:17.800 --> 0:44:21.200
<v Speaker 1>Jerry listen to the podcast episode on fruit flies. I

0:44:21.239 --> 0:44:23.759
<v Speaker 1>want to say that Chuck's pronunciation of the word drosophila

0:44:23.880 --> 0:44:28.200
<v Speaker 1>is correct. That's rare. Having worked in a basic research

0:44:28.280 --> 0:44:31.280
<v Speaker 1>laboratory for years, I've often pined for a science dictionary

0:44:31.280 --> 0:44:35.440
<v Speaker 1>to help with pronouncing scientific terminology and nomenclature. For example,

0:44:35.520 --> 0:44:38.319
<v Speaker 1>unless you chat with researchers on a regular basis, how

0:44:38.320 --> 0:44:41.320
<v Speaker 1>would you know to pronounce the gene b R c

0:44:41.520 --> 0:44:46.000
<v Speaker 1>A one as bracca one and c d o as kiddo,

0:44:46.760 --> 0:44:50.840
<v Speaker 1>while p D one is just p D one. I

0:44:50.880 --> 0:44:53.640
<v Speaker 1>don't know how you would know. You wouldn't You need

0:44:53.640 --> 0:44:55.920
<v Speaker 1>to make smart friends, I think is what it comes

0:44:55.920 --> 0:44:58.120
<v Speaker 1>down to. That's right, And she says, as long as

0:44:58.160 --> 0:45:01.360
<v Speaker 1>we're discussing pronunciations, you mentioned in your episode on the

0:45:01.400 --> 0:45:04.480
<v Speaker 1>US interstate system that Californians add the word the for

0:45:04.560 --> 0:45:06.759
<v Speaker 1>any freeway highway number. I've lived in the Bay Area

0:45:06.880 --> 0:45:09.640
<v Speaker 1>my whole life. I hesitate to generalize for all of

0:45:09.680 --> 0:45:12.279
<v Speaker 1>northern California, but at least in the Bay Area. Most

0:45:12.280 --> 0:45:15.359
<v Speaker 1>people say things like the rest of the country one

0:45:15.440 --> 0:45:17.719
<v Speaker 1>on one highway one on one instead of the one

0:45:17.719 --> 0:45:19.920
<v Speaker 1>on one anyone who says the one on one is

0:45:19.960 --> 0:45:23.479
<v Speaker 1>most likely from southern California. Got it? That makes sense? Yeah,

0:45:23.520 --> 0:45:25.520
<v Speaker 1>so I guess that is sort of that makes sense.

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<v Speaker 1>It's an l A thing, right, Yeah, That's what I

0:45:28.120 --> 0:45:32.799
<v Speaker 1>always associated with for sure. So that is Erica. Well

0:45:32.800 --> 0:45:35.839
<v Speaker 1>thanks a lot, Erica. That um email is just chock

0:45:35.920 --> 0:45:38.799
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