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Speaker 4: Second Pascot Tinson t.

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Speaker 1: Touchdown, and now your hosts Isaiah Standback, Patrick Walker, Josh

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Speaker 1: Rodriguez and Kyle Yeomans.

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Speaker 3: In the SWBC studios.

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Speaker 5: We've got Patrick Noc Walker, Josh Rodriguez, I'm Kyle Yeomans

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Speaker 5: with Chris Beam running everything in the back as we

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Speaker 5: continue into this Week three.

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Speaker 3: Already kind of crazy to say Week three, yemens moving.

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Speaker 5: We three match up with the Baltimore Ravens and the

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Speaker 5: Raining MVP coming to town.

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Speaker 3: Today is of course a Wednesday, which means.

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Speaker 5: We're doing the Dallas Defensive preview and there's a lot

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Speaker 5: to talk about whenever it comes to this defense. Mike

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Speaker 5: zimmer System, some different elements to it, but also how

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Speaker 5: the hell do you slow down Lamar Jackson, Derek Zay

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Speaker 5: Flowers after what just happened to you on Sunday as well,

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Speaker 5: so to look forward to today.

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Speaker 6: Lots of juicy questions on the rundown today. Yeah I

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Speaker 6: like it, Yeah, I like it.

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Speaker 7: It's quite delectable. It's delicious. I have some of this

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Speaker 7: and of that.

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Speaker 6: Some spicy takes on the way.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, it's gonna give fun.

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Speaker 3: Got some candy corn to pick from?

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Speaker 7: I don't Yeah.

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Speaker 6: Time, whoa, that's the close to Halloween here, so I know.

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Speaker 5: Patrick decided to throw out on Twitter yesterday that he

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Speaker 5: despises everybody that ever is eating candy cornings and he

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Speaker 5: he hates candy cornators and then diss Then somehow on

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Speaker 5: the back half of it, my name gets tagged in it.

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Speaker 5: You said that seems like something Kyle would eat. Yeah,

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Speaker 5: and I mean you seem like maybe in October. I mean,

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Speaker 5: and you is that because.

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Speaker 8: No, no, not absolutely not, but I like that A

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Speaker 8: bar was a bar clear rim shot.

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Speaker 7: No.

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Speaker 8: I mean candy corn is gross. It's uh and anyone

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Speaker 8: who chooses to devour that might as well, like I

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Speaker 8: said on Twitter, might as well start eating candles and

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Speaker 8: just skip the four plate candles, crayons, all of the candles.

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Speaker 7: Do you also eat black jelly beans.

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Speaker 3: Black jelly beans like the Lakers the uh, they're not

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Speaker 9: But if it's part of a pack, sure, poverty, sir,

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Speaker 9: are we going back to the booty bread and we're

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Speaker 9: going back to the ends of the bread well again

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Speaker 9: in that direction.

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Speaker 8: What I'm saying is, if you eat candy corn and

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Speaker 8: you could be a you could be a good human

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Speaker 8: being and all other facets of your life. You could

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Speaker 8: be charitable, you could be philipropic, you could be you know,

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Speaker 8: father of triplets, great mom, great dad, great brother, sister.

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Speaker 8: You could be fantastic in the community. And for that,

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Speaker 8: I thank you. You're a wonderful human being. But if

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Speaker 8: you eat candy corn, you disgusted me that in that instance,

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Speaker 8: Once you stop eating it and you're done, then we're

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Speaker 3: So you don't despise them.

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Speaker 7: You're disgusted by Yeah, I'm disgusted by them. And it's

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Speaker 7: it's moment to moment.

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Speaker 8: So as soon as the moment that you're done eating

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Speaker 8: that passes, then you no longer discussed me.

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Speaker 7: It's it's really just simple.

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Speaker 5: This won't be the last time we talked about this

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Speaker 5: before Halloween, but I.

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Speaker 8: Will say for you will also say this, take your

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Speaker 8: Christmas decorations down. Have some respect for Halloween, Christmas, for

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Speaker 6: People they have at Walmart, they're going to have the ways.

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Speaker 10: Of course, because you're getting to Christmas. No one's putting

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Speaker 10: that up. Yeah, are they?

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Speaker 7: People? They are putting that up, sir.

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Speaker 10: That's ridiculous that that the a little it's a little soon.

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Speaker 10: But I will say I don't think they're awful people.

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Speaker 10: Patrick Patrick does this thing on Twitter where it's like

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Speaker 10: every three or four days, like just one thing that

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Speaker 10: anyone will be like, oh, that's gross. I don't like

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Speaker 10: candy corn. He's like, this is the most disgusting thing

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Speaker 6: And like Patrick is prompted.

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Speaker 8: It's unprompted. There's no one that provokes. Its just something that.

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Speaker 6: Person be like, you know what, I don't really like

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Speaker 6: candy corn very much. Patrick's absolutely just.

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Speaker 8: Like because I wells, I love what I like and

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Speaker 8: I hate what I don't.

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Speaker 7: It's just kind of how we goes.

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Speaker 6: Hey man, more power to I love that for you.

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Speaker 8: You're all or nothing. All of that's ALLID is. That's

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Speaker 8: how life has to be. You have to go all

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Speaker 8: in or you pull all out, don't you do it?

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Speaker 8: WHOA don't you do?

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Speaker 5: Sir?

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Speaker 3: Wild for.

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Speaker 8: Losing notes of slim to day because obviously we're coming

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Speaker 8: off of an nonpractice day for the Cowboys. They will

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Speaker 8: get back to practice today, being Wednesday, September eighteenth.

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Speaker 7: Yep.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, but we're looking to see what Jake Ferguson's progress

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Speaker 8: looks like effective today. He's trending in the right direction.

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Speaker 8: He had a quote unquote good workout on Monday, per

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Speaker 8: head coach Mike McCarthy, So that's a positive. His needle

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Speaker 8: is pointing in the right direction for him getting back

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Speaker 8: on the field against the Ravens. Knock on wood barring

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Speaker 8: any type of setback this week. As far as Dalvin Cook,

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Speaker 8: TBD owner and general manager Jerry Jones tote one O

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Speaker 8: five to three the fan on Tuesday that he doesn't

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Speaker 8: see it in consideration quite yet. But I will again

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Speaker 8: state that that comment was made on Tuesday, and there's

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Speaker 8: several days for the team to change their mind for

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Speaker 8: whatever reason, So we'll see how that goes. Outside of that,

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Speaker 8: only good things they came out of Sunday's matchup against

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Speaker 8: on He did not participate portion of today's practice, but

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Speaker 8: it's likely because he often rests on Wednesday anyway, so

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Speaker 8: they're likely treated as a veteran rest day. He did

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Speaker 8: far as his proagnosi is going forward. I don't think

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Speaker 5: So so on Thursday, that's where we'll get our real

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Speaker 5: first look because he's not gonna practice Wednesday because or

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Speaker 5: today because of the that day correct and he's gonna

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Speaker 5: sit down, set out regardless. That's what Mia McCarthy said Monday.

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Speaker 5: But tomorrow, based off of what he does, that's gonna

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Speaker 5: be your big tell.

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Speaker 7: That's gonna be telling what if he's limited.

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Speaker 8: I'm fine with him being limited because it just means

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Speaker 8: there being precautious and there's no issue with that. Honestly,

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Speaker 8: if if Zach Martin was d and P on Thursday,

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Speaker 8: that still wouldn't throw me back in my chair because again,

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Speaker 8: it's Zach Martin and you're resting him, and the fact

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Speaker 3: Would be the timeline of a d m P.

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Speaker 7: Would it be? Would have to take?

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Speaker 8: Okay, so Friday's d if he's If he's d m P,

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Speaker 8: Saturday's practice. But definitely then I'll kind of perk up

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Speaker 8: also what's going to happen on Friday is we're going

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Speaker 8: to get the final injury report. So if he has

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Speaker 8: a game status, uh, even if it's questionable, then it's like, okay, Well.

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Speaker 3: I wouldn't be shocked if it was questionable.

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Speaker 7: No, if it's questionable in combination with two with two deep, okay.

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Speaker 5: So if there's like a limited in there and questionable,

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Speaker 5: you feel pretty sure about it.

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Speaker 7: Yeah. I just remember how.

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Speaker 10: How the Tyrone Smith injury and Arizona was handled, like

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Speaker 10: like leading up to that game was I'm genuinely, genuinely

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Speaker 10: curious because he was suited.

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Speaker 7: Up for that, yes he was, and then he was

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Speaker 7: made inactive.

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Speaker 6: He was a made in active like hours before the game, yeah.

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Speaker 7: Ninety minutes.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, because they have to file inactives. No, that was

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Speaker 8: a new kick, right, Yeah, it was a new kick.

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Speaker 6: But that was kind of out of the ordinary, right

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Speaker 7: Sure, it is.

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Speaker 6: I'm genuinely curious.

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Speaker 7: It's out of the ordinary.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, that you would see him on the suit, that

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Speaker 8: you would see him suit up, go through warm ups

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Speaker 8: and they're like, oh, you know what, he's not playing, Like, yeah,

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Speaker 8: I don't think this is that situation. Oh yeah yeah yeah, No, no, no,

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Speaker 7: Yeah he did.

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Speaker 8: And I'm going to keep saying that because if he

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Speaker 5: See, I'll ask you this question tomorrow as well, when

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Speaker 5: we get a better look of who's working with the

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Speaker 5: rehab group and who's on the bands and who's actually

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Speaker 5: performing in practice. But your confidence level that Jake Ferguson

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Speaker 5: this week ninety eight percent.

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Speaker 7: Wow, I am very confident.

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Speaker 8: Okay, I think I think number one Jake is going

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Speaker 8: to push the play But I say that in the

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Speaker 8: same aspect of this is the same Jake Ferguson that

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Speaker 8: said if he can't give the if you can't play

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Speaker 8: to the standard, then he's gonna sit.

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Speaker 7: Yeah.

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Speaker 8: But the fact that he was quote unquote close to

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Speaker 8: playing against the Saints, that tells me that physically that

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Speaker 8: knee is playable. If this was a playoff game or

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Speaker 8: a must win. And I'm not going to say it's

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Speaker 8: a must win in week three, but you gotta winep right,

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Speaker 8: you need to win. And I think all things considered,

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Speaker 8: I think another several days of not pushing that knee,

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Speaker 8: I think he'll be ready for the Ravens.

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Speaker 10: I'm I guess I'm more likely than not he's going

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Speaker 10: to play. I'd say about sixty percent on my end,

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Speaker 10: I think you definitely need him. And part of me

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Speaker 10: is word that they might push him even if he's

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Speaker 10: not if this was a different team, if this wasn't

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Speaker 10: a must need or must win situation, maybe you said him,

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Speaker 10: I don't really know, but I feel like they're going

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Speaker 10: to push regardless to have him in there.

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Speaker 8: How I would do how I would handle his status

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Speaker 8: on Saturday to make that the tailtale. But that gives

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Speaker 8: it's not close to a ninety nine points Yeah, ninety

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Speaker 5: That's the key right there, because there are setbacks in

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Speaker 5: Five and one against the Cowboys. Cowboys have one all time.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, that was that was rough man. They ran all

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Speaker 6: But only seven matchups, that's interesting.

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Speaker 5: One of the two to be played in Dallas, I

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Speaker 7: But oh in three or what would that be?

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Speaker 3: Luckily the Cowboys have them at home this week.

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Speaker 7: That's true.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, it's the second you remember the most? Well, man,

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Speaker 10: That's the one emotion didn't Okay, why'd you have to

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Speaker 6: DeMarco Murray was absolutely killing him, dude. And then, uh,

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Speaker 6: why did you do that? Jason Garrett Ice his own.

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Speaker 7: Kicker, Gary Candy Cornish of you?

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Speaker 6: Sorry?

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Speaker 7: You ain't sorry? You know that's sorry.

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Speaker 7: It's history, right, it is history.

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Speaker 3: I'm bringing up the box scores.

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Speaker 6: We we've also had a lot of dumps, guys.

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Speaker 7: If only he could have remained healthy.

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Speaker 8: We never really got to see Lance duoneb and the

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Speaker 7: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: So this is going to be a rebound opportunity for

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Speaker 5: This is only the second time that the Ravens have

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Speaker 7: So it's a.

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Speaker 3: It's a lot on the table for both of these sides.

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Speaker 8: I'm gonna go with the Cowboys for a couple of reasons. One,

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Speaker 8: they'll get things together. It's the Ravens. They live in

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Speaker 8: the discourse becomes wildly different. It's not oh well, it's

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Speaker 7: He's in huge trouble now and.

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Speaker 8: Dot dot the discourse will be completely different from an

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Speaker 8: I honestly do think it's fair because one thing about

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Speaker 8: Right when it comes to the Cowboys and Mike McCarthy,

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Speaker 8: And then now, once you get into playoffs, which version.

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Speaker 8: So it's just two different conversations.

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Speaker 10: I think I would argue I mean, I agree to

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Speaker 4: Go oh and three?

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Speaker 8: So here's my question that I'll pose to you. And

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Speaker 8: all that's being talked about from that game is the

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Speaker 10: But Kyle's argument, if it didn't happen, if it didn't happen,

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Speaker 7: Which is fair.

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Speaker 8: Do you think the national coverage would be the same

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Speaker 3: Absolutely not.

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Speaker 10: That's general saying, absolutely regardless, no matter what happens, Even

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Speaker 8: Team you know, because forgiveness and grace is given to

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Speaker 8: Lamar Jackson led Ravens team because they're going to get

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Speaker 6: I'll give that to you.

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Speaker 6: Just to sprinklet national coverage.

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Speaker 5: And to sprinkle this into a little conversation, six teams

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Speaker 3: Deshaun Watson and company.

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Speaker 7: They got themselves back.

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Speaker 5: Right and we're able to push it into the postseason

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Speaker 7: Well really quickly.

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Speaker 3: Pres We're talking pressure in general.

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Speaker 8: But because external pressure both, it would more be all

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Speaker 5: Dallas did a really good job of keeping a mobile

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Speaker 5: every single Friday on the show if you haven't been

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Speaker 5: a part of it yet. High octane final preview going

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Speaker 5: into the weekend. We've got a little extra knowledge that

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Speaker 5: been a lot of talk this week from Mike Zimmer,

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Speaker 5: from fans, from experts around the league talking about base

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Speaker 5: Mike Zimmer, So what does that mean, what does that

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Speaker 5: look like? And how does that affect certain players? Like

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Speaker 8: Overshown and how it effects just Zimmer's trends as far

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Speaker 8: as bass versus sub and actually, and we'll get into

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Speaker 8: it more on Friday, what is base in the NFL nowadays?

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Speaker 8: Because that's not what it used to be when we

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Speaker 8: were watching football decades ago for these moss basis, So

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Speaker 8: what's modern bas versus modern stub? So we're going to

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Speaker 8: get into that especially. It'll be fun to have Isaiah

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Speaker 5: What you're thinking about talking about it today since it's

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Speaker 5: a defensive preview day, but we want to get Isaiah's

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Speaker 5: dive in film examples.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, We're we're gonna try and bring the heat on Friday.

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Speaker 6: With for sure.

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Speaker 10: And if my whole thing like outside looking in, if

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Speaker 10: Demarvin Overstone isn't in your base, fix the base, you.

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Speaker 6: Know what I mean, Slap it the base a little bit,

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Speaker 6: you know what I mean?

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Speaker 5: There were a couple times and hard I agree with

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Speaker 5: you for the most part. There were a couple times

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Speaker 5: in this game, and this will kind of transition nicely

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Speaker 5: into our matchup with the Baltimore Ravens and the defensive

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Speaker 5: preview here, but there were times Demarvin overshown struggled against

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Speaker 5: big men, against these tight ends, against these tackles and

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Speaker 5: getting off blocks, being in the right place, right time.

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Speaker 5: His speed is undeniable. His readability when he can find

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Speaker 5: a whole shooting out of a cannon, we talked about

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Speaker 5: that already, and what he did in Week one against

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Speaker 5: the Sean Watson and company. All of that is great,

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Speaker 5: but he still can get caught up in the wash.

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Speaker 5: And I think that's part of him being a de

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Speaker 5: facto rookie. He's played two games in his NFL career

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Speaker 5: and I mean, what it was eighteen snaps, Yeah, on Sunday.

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Speaker 5: So he's so new to this that there's going to

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Speaker 8: Yeah, it's reps, neat reps, reps, reps, reps, which goes

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Speaker 8: to what Josh is saying, change your base, right, Yeah, Yeah,

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Speaker 8: get him more involved because he's put he's put on

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Speaker 8: he's a de facto rookie and he's going to have

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Speaker 7: That at the NFL level.

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Speaker 8: And also going back to his table with Texas, that

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Speaker 8: that wasn't necessarily his bag.

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Speaker 7: It was more of a coverage bag right now. He

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Speaker 7: was a safety there.

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Speaker 8: He was a safety that transition, which is why I

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Speaker 8: labeled him as the best covered linebacker in that particular draft.

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Speaker 8: So yeah, he has he can cover, no doubt, he

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Speaker 8: can spy, no doubt. But when you're talking about taking

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Speaker 8: that's a new facet of the game for him, and

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Speaker 8: he has the size to do it, but he doesn't

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Speaker 8: have the reps. So the only way to fix that

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Speaker 8: is to put him more in base.

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Speaker 10: Well, I guess my question, and this will be more

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Speaker 10: so for Friday. It's like you have Maris le who

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Speaker 10: and it is starting in the base package over tomorrow.

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Speaker 8: And that's because of what the actual base is nowadays

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Speaker 8: which is why you got to tune in on were

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Speaker 5: And not to mention the Cowboys ran Nickel on eighty

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Speaker 5: nine percent of plays in Week one against Cleveland Browns.

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Speaker 5: They didn't necessarily do that in Week two against New

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Speaker 5: Orleans and.

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Speaker 3: There's a reason behind that.

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Speaker 5: But speaking to what New Orleans or excuse me, to

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Speaker 5: what Baltimore does here, Lamar Jackson mobile, dynamic quarterback.

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Speaker 3: Not always going to kill you with his arm, but

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Speaker 3: he certainly can.

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Speaker 6: If he has to, not bad for running back.

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Speaker 3: For a running back, he's much more than a running

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Speaker 3: back now. I think he's proven that one. But here

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Speaker 3: he's a legitimate threat in MVP.

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Speaker 5: Level caliber play all the way through his career and

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Speaker 5: he's won it twice, no doubt. The players outside of

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Speaker 5: that are what kind of give me a little bit

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Speaker 5: more hope this week, because we talked about the weaponry

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Speaker 5: Kamara and all these different weapons they have. Derrick Henry,

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Speaker 3: To be a superstar, in this league.

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Speaker 5: If he continues that, the trajectory is but you're catching

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Speaker 5: him in year number two. Right, is this weaponry from

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Speaker 5: Baltimore just as talented or more talented or where do

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Speaker 10: It's different talent, I mean say, of course, is the speed.

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Speaker 10: You know, he's the Rashid Shihi, you know in terms

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Speaker 10: of the speed that you have, but totally different weaponry

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Speaker 6: Ends because you have to keep two guys.

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Speaker 10: You got to Mark Andrews's he's on the marquee, right,

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Speaker 10: everyone drafted him in fantasy, but you also have you

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Speaker 10: also have Isaiah Likely.

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Speaker 5: Who everybody picked up in week going into Week two

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Speaker 10: Granted, you know he it was almost a game winning

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Speaker 6: Versus the Chiefs.

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Speaker 10: But Isaiah Likely is basically a big bodied wide receiver.

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Speaker 10: He's an athletic azelle, and he's able to find gaps

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Speaker 10: in especially his own defense, where he is just always

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Speaker 10: likely be open. Something about that dude is fascinating to watch.

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Speaker 10: It's fascinating to watch his game and see how basically

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Speaker 10: compared to New Orleans and the running attack, I feel

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Speaker 10: What about you, Patrick, as far as weapons.

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Speaker 8: Go, I think the like you said, the weapons are different,

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Speaker 8: Cowboys because the reason, one of the reasons, because there

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Speaker 8: were several, one of the reasons they struggled against the

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Speaker 8: Saints is not only do you have the speed of Shahi,

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Speaker 8: but Chris Olave isn't exactly running in molasses, right, He

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Speaker 8: So you have to protect against two guys who can

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Speaker 8: with those runs, getting out in you know, screens and

666
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Speaker 8: bubbles and quick dump offs in the middle of the field.

667
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Speaker 8: When you're allowing free releases on guys like Michael Parsons eg.

668
00:31:03,320 --> 00:31:08,040
Speaker 8: The fifty seven yard touchdown tossed to Kamara from from

669
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Speaker 8: Derek Carr. But when you flip it and you look

670
00:31:10,840 --> 00:31:16,000
Speaker 8: at the Ravens, you only have one speedster to account for. Okay,

671
00:31:17,200 --> 00:31:21,840
Speaker 8: likely he's he's possession based, Andrews he's possession based. They're

672
00:31:21,920 --> 00:31:27,480
Speaker 8: not George Kittle as far as you know, athletic tight

673
00:31:27,600 --> 00:31:31,400
Speaker 8: ends who can also make plays in space. They're not

674
00:31:31,480 --> 00:31:34,920
Speaker 8: big on yak right, and that works in the Cowboys favor.

675
00:31:35,280 --> 00:31:38,040
Speaker 8: When you look at Derrick Henry, Derrick Henry, like you said, Kyle,

676
00:31:38,120 --> 00:31:39,320
Speaker 8: he's on the back end of his career.

677
00:31:39,360 --> 00:31:41,040
Speaker 7: Can he still impact the game?

678
00:31:41,120 --> 00:31:46,120
Speaker 8: Absolutely, look, but not on the edges, not on the outside,

679
00:31:46,560 --> 00:31:48,800
Speaker 8: not as a bubble screen threat, not as a quick

680
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Speaker 8: dump in the middle of the field to for fifty

681
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Speaker 8: seven yard touchdown. Absolutely not, all things considered. The weapon

682
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Speaker 8: the talent is there, the weaponry is there, but it

683
00:31:58,280 --> 00:32:01,360
Speaker 8: more favors what the Cowboys like to do defensively, as

684
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Speaker 8: far as shrinking the field, playing more closely to a

685
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Speaker 8: phone booth than an airport tarmac, right, And that's going

686
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Speaker 8: to allow them to play a little bit more downhill,

687
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Speaker 8: get more physical with the Ravens, and possibly you know,

688
00:32:16,080 --> 00:32:19,240
Speaker 8: shorten the windows to get more takeaways. And then the

689
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Speaker 8: X factor is the more obvious one. Lamar Jackson on

690
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Speaker 8: the ground is more dangerous than Derek Carr. Everyone will

691
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Speaker 8: be on the ground, but Derek Carr is far more

692
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Speaker 8: dangerous in the air than Lamar Jackson could ever dream

693
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Speaker 8: of being. So how do you stop Lamar Jackson? That's

694
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Speaker 8: what the Cowboys need to figure out.

695
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Speaker 5: You talked about the yards after the catch, which I

696
00:32:38,160 --> 00:32:41,080
Speaker 5: think is really interesting. Whenever you take a look at

697
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Speaker 5: those three weapons Andrews, Likely and Jay Flowers, and I'm

698
00:32:45,080 --> 00:32:49,000
Speaker 5: looking at Likely's route chart and what he has on

699
00:32:49,080 --> 00:32:52,120
Speaker 5: next gen stats. He only has two grabs this year

700
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Speaker 5: beyond ten yards downfield. They don't throw it downfield to

701
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Speaker 5: Isaiah Likely. Same thing for Mark Andrews. Mark Andrews has

702
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Speaker 5: two of more than ten yards downfield after the catch.

703
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Speaker 5: Is where Likely has been dangerous and Andrews has been

704
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Speaker 5: not It has not been dangerous because one of those

705
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Speaker 5: two receptions for Isaiah Likely was the big touchdown early

706
00:33:11,320 --> 00:33:13,240
Speaker 5: where he went down the right sideline until it was.

707
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Speaker 7: Also horrible angles, terrible.

708
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Speaker 3: Angles from Kansas City. It was not a great play,

709
00:33:17,600 --> 00:33:21,080
Speaker 3: but he's still it still still happened. It happened, But

710
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Speaker 3: then you've got on the opposite side of it.

711
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Speaker 5: Whenever you've got Mark Andrews, his yards after the catch

712
00:33:25,040 --> 00:33:27,600
Speaker 5: have been less than five yards on almost every single

713
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Speaker 5: one of his six receptions. There's one one reception I'm

714
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Speaker 5: looking at here that's six yards.

715
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Speaker 3: That's it.

716
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Speaker 5: Well, their yards after the catch are not there for

717
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Speaker 5: Mark Andrews, but it is there for Isaiah likea likely,

718
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Speaker 5: that's what you go. That's going to what you talked

719
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Speaker 5: about of these are different weapons.

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Speaker 10: Different weapons, And like I said, he's more of a

721
00:33:43,720 --> 00:33:46,000
Speaker 10: big bodied wide receiver with how athletic he is and

722
00:33:46,040 --> 00:33:47,680
Speaker 10: how he's able to get down the field and his

723
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Speaker 10: route running too.

724
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Speaker 6: Isaiah likely.

725
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Speaker 8: When it comes to Lamar, I will say blitzen.

726
00:33:55,160 --> 00:33:57,880
Speaker 6: Attack, attacks and jacket attack.

727
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Speaker 8: And I was having that thought coming into this this

728
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Speaker 8: week in today's episode, and then I started kind of

729
00:34:04,600 --> 00:34:06,760
Speaker 8: looking through numbers to see if the numbers supported with

730
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Speaker 8: the eyes were telling me, and they actually do. Here's

731
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Speaker 8: just one example of the science. Lamar Jackson has been

732
00:34:14,160 --> 00:34:19,680
Speaker 8: blitched on. Let's see, out of all the times he's

733
00:34:19,680 --> 00:34:22,760
Speaker 8: been blitched he's He's only completed one hundred yards of passing,

734
00:34:22,880 --> 00:34:23,680
Speaker 8: no touchdowns.

735
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Speaker 6: He's twentieth inst.

736
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Speaker 7: Passerrating seventy five point six.

737
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Speaker 3: Is that this year?

738
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Speaker 7: This year?

739
00:34:29,800 --> 00:34:34,920
Speaker 8: This year, seventy five point blitz and his completion percentage

740
00:34:34,960 --> 00:34:40,760
Speaker 8: above expectation when he's blitzed is negative nineteen percent. Can't

741
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Speaker 8: he can't take it. He gets him off his spot

742
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Speaker 8: and it forces him to go into panic mode. And

743
00:34:45,960 --> 00:34:47,960
Speaker 8: what does Lamar Jackson do when he panics?

744
00:34:47,960 --> 00:34:48,360
Speaker 7: He runs.

745
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Speaker 8: That's the second that's what you really need to defend

746
00:34:51,000 --> 00:34:54,120
Speaker 8: again over exactly, that's what you really need to defend against,

747
00:34:54,120 --> 00:34:56,160
Speaker 8: because that is what's going to keep your defense on

748
00:34:56,200 --> 00:34:58,759
Speaker 8: the field if you can't stop him and avoid third

749
00:34:58,760 --> 00:35:01,080
Speaker 8: down conversions. But if if you send that extra one

750
00:35:01,120 --> 00:35:04,439
Speaker 8: or two guys back there, he's going to struggle because

751
00:35:04,440 --> 00:35:07,120
Speaker 8: he can't get through his reads. And we joked about it,

752
00:35:07,239 --> 00:35:09,680
Speaker 8: but yeah, he's much better throwing at this point in

753
00:35:09,719 --> 00:35:11,200
Speaker 8: his career than he was in the beginning, and he

754
00:35:11,239 --> 00:35:14,000
Speaker 8: can make the right one when it matters most but

755
00:35:14,120 --> 00:35:17,239
Speaker 8: over the course of four quarters, more often than not,

756
00:35:17,600 --> 00:35:19,640
Speaker 8: you can rattle him by sitting the extra guy.

757
00:35:19,760 --> 00:35:23,080
Speaker 5: So comparing it to a week one, there's the science baby,

758
00:35:23,400 --> 00:35:26,200
Speaker 5: where comparing it to week one, I mean you look

759
00:35:26,200 --> 00:35:29,640
Speaker 5: at mobility. A quarterback may be comfortable with his legs

760
00:35:29,640 --> 00:35:32,000
Speaker 5: more so than his arms. Deshaun Watson, Lamar Jackson, but

761
00:35:32,080 --> 00:35:35,680
Speaker 5: Lamar Jackson's a step up, significant step up. Running back

762
00:35:35,760 --> 00:35:38,520
Speaker 5: Jerome Forbes got some speed, got some power, but Derek

763
00:35:38,560 --> 00:35:40,480
Speaker 5: Henry's all power, all muscle.

764
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Speaker 3: Definitely a step up there.

765
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Speaker 5: Wide receiver of Mary Cooper's Jay Flowers, I would argue

766
00:35:45,440 --> 00:35:48,080
Speaker 5: are Mary Cooper's probably a step up at receiver and

767
00:35:48,200 --> 00:35:50,760
Speaker 5: more of a technician of a route runner. Jay Flowers

768
00:35:50,800 --> 00:35:52,919
Speaker 5: is different though He's got a little bit speed to him.

769
00:35:53,600 --> 00:35:55,200
Speaker 5: And then you've got the tight end position. We just

770
00:35:55,239 --> 00:35:57,800
Speaker 5: talked about the two tight ends Isaiah likely Mark Andrews.

771
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Speaker 5: They have their own specific skill set and you had

772
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Speaker 5: with Cleveland in Week one with David and Joku before

773
00:36:02,960 --> 00:36:05,920
Speaker 5: he was injured later in the game. So all of

774
00:36:05,960 --> 00:36:08,920
Speaker 5: that to be said, is it gonna be a similar

775
00:36:08,960 --> 00:36:11,960
Speaker 5: game plan from Dallas in terms of defensive looks in

776
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Speaker 5: what they did employee in week one, how they slowed

777
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Speaker 5: down Cleveland to try and I mean it's a step up.

778
00:36:17,520 --> 00:36:19,920
Speaker 5: Like I said, this offense is better than Cleveland's, at

779
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Speaker 5: least based off of what we've seen here in twenty

780
00:36:21,640 --> 00:36:25,080
Speaker 5: four so far. But is it gonna be a different

781
00:36:25,080 --> 00:36:27,000
Speaker 5: look or a similar look game plan wise?

782
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Speaker 6: I certainly hope.

783
00:36:28,000 --> 00:36:29,680
Speaker 7: So that's the same.

784
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Speaker 6: I certainly hope it's.

785
00:36:30,880 --> 00:36:34,440
Speaker 10: It's it's a similar look to the Cleveland game versus

786
00:36:34,480 --> 00:36:35,200
Speaker 10: the Saints game.

787
00:36:35,320 --> 00:36:35,520
Speaker 7: Right.

788
00:36:37,960 --> 00:36:41,279
Speaker 10: For me, the biggest takeaway from watching the Ravens is

789
00:36:41,320 --> 00:36:44,520
Speaker 10: that you were able to attack their offensive line. Yeah,

790
00:36:44,560 --> 00:36:51,440
Speaker 10: and more more often than not. Danielle Fallow Fallele, Okay,

791
00:36:51,760 --> 00:36:54,080
Speaker 10: he's had a lot of trouble last week with stunts

792
00:36:54,480 --> 00:36:56,680
Speaker 10: and misdirection and Max Crosby.

793
00:36:56,920 --> 00:36:58,319
Speaker 6: Who wouldn't have issues with.

794
00:36:58,280 --> 00:37:00,280
Speaker 7: Max Crosby, right, Mac Crosby.

795
00:37:00,440 --> 00:37:03,719
Speaker 6: But that's where you bring Micah in to disrupt this dude.

796
00:37:03,800 --> 00:37:06,840
Speaker 10: He's not getting off the snap quickly and he's not

797
00:37:06,880 --> 00:37:08,120
Speaker 10: getting his arms up quickly.

798
00:37:08,320 --> 00:37:10,000
Speaker 6: He is getting like lost.

799
00:37:09,840 --> 00:37:13,439
Speaker 3: Ten whatever is so you gotta you can get around him.

800
00:37:13,400 --> 00:37:16,240
Speaker 6: Right, dude is getting mauled. He's getting mauled.

801
00:37:16,400 --> 00:37:18,680
Speaker 10: Granted, he has help on the right tackle position with

802
00:37:18,760 --> 00:37:22,520
Speaker 10: Roger Rosengarden, who is a dog who came in as

803
00:37:22,520 --> 00:37:25,000
Speaker 10: a backup. He was a swing tackle last week and

804
00:37:25,480 --> 00:37:27,480
Speaker 10: ate up Max Crosby for a big portion, which is

805
00:37:27,480 --> 00:37:29,600
Speaker 10: why they took him away. And in that final drive,

806
00:37:29,800 --> 00:37:33,720
Speaker 10: Max Crosby was just absolutely tearing up Fallele.

807
00:37:34,400 --> 00:37:37,239
Speaker 6: That to me is is that's your key right there?

808
00:37:37,239 --> 00:37:37,399
Speaker 2: Man.

809
00:37:37,480 --> 00:37:39,799
Speaker 10: You send Micah up the middle, which we're used to

810
00:37:39,800 --> 00:37:42,239
Speaker 10: seeing now right, you see him kind of over center.

811
00:37:42,320 --> 00:37:45,640
Speaker 10: You see him over the guards as opposed to the outsides.

812
00:37:45,840 --> 00:37:48,480
Speaker 10: To me, that's where you attack. Because they have the

813
00:37:48,600 --> 00:37:52,160
Speaker 10: six lowest pressure percentage in the NFL currently. The offensive

814
00:37:52,200 --> 00:37:55,960
Speaker 10: line does a twenty five percent, the seventh fewest sacks currently,

815
00:37:56,520 --> 00:37:59,640
Speaker 10: but two of those came on that final drive against

816
00:37:59,719 --> 00:38:03,160
Speaker 10: Cross being to Max Crosby, the absolutely wrecked um man.

817
00:38:03,200 --> 00:38:04,120
Speaker 6: To me, that was the.

818
00:38:04,760 --> 00:38:08,919
Speaker 10: Quote unquote blueprint to beating the Ravens, especially in the

819
00:38:08,960 --> 00:38:10,439
Speaker 10: final minutes of that game.

820
00:38:10,480 --> 00:38:11,360
Speaker 6: That's kind of where.

821
00:38:11,200 --> 00:38:13,160
Speaker 10: It's like, oh, this is what she should have been

822
00:38:13,200 --> 00:38:15,399
Speaker 10: doing this whole time, is attacking this dude right here.

823
00:38:15,480 --> 00:38:16,040
Speaker 7: Yeah.

824
00:38:16,080 --> 00:38:17,640
Speaker 6: Absolutely, And one.

825
00:38:17,480 --> 00:38:19,920
Speaker 8: Thing the Saints, the Saints were able to do was

826
00:38:20,000 --> 00:38:23,120
Speaker 8: take advantage of how effective the play action became because

827
00:38:23,120 --> 00:38:25,239
Speaker 8: of the success of Alvin Kamara. But now you have

828
00:38:25,280 --> 00:38:27,359
Speaker 8: a Ravens team coming in that doesn't like to use

829
00:38:27,400 --> 00:38:29,120
Speaker 8: play action. Now, the reason they don't like to use

830
00:38:29,120 --> 00:38:33,000
Speaker 8: play action is because number one, Derrick Henry hasn't been

831
00:38:33,320 --> 00:38:36,640
Speaker 8: Derrick Henry hasn't been the king right still impact games absolutely,

832
00:38:36,920 --> 00:38:39,000
Speaker 8: but not effective enough for you to operate off of

833
00:38:39,000 --> 00:38:41,680
Speaker 8: the play action. Also, they feel like all breaks down

834
00:38:41,680 --> 00:38:43,560
Speaker 8: on Lamar can just run it themselves. But the fact

835
00:38:43,600 --> 00:38:46,240
Speaker 8: that they only run play action less than seventeen percent

836
00:38:46,239 --> 00:38:48,719
Speaker 8: of the time through the first two games. When you

837
00:38:48,760 --> 00:38:50,359
Speaker 8: send in that blitz, so when you send a Mica

838
00:38:50,440 --> 00:38:52,319
Speaker 8: lineing him up at zero tech, one tech, whatever the

839
00:38:52,360 --> 00:38:54,960
Speaker 8: case may be, there will be time to get to

840
00:38:55,080 --> 00:38:57,200
Speaker 8: him because it's more of a true drop back than

841
00:38:57,239 --> 00:38:58,719
Speaker 8: it is a play action. And you have to wonder

842
00:38:58,760 --> 00:39:01,520
Speaker 8: if that ball is if it's gonna be handed off

843
00:39:01,560 --> 00:39:05,759
Speaker 8: for not. But the question becomes, are you let me

844
00:39:05,840 --> 00:39:09,520
Speaker 8: let me first say the answer spy him? Yes, Okay,

845
00:39:09,640 --> 00:39:13,360
Speaker 8: I'm talking good old fashioned James Bond espionage.

846
00:39:16,040 --> 00:39:19,520
Speaker 7: With the situations like all of it. I'm talking about.

847
00:39:19,800 --> 00:39:22,400
Speaker 8: Just there should be like this montage before the game

848
00:39:22,520 --> 00:39:24,520
Speaker 8: where there's the double O seven.

849
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Speaker 7: Or over shown. That's what I want now, Mike Zimbra made.

850
00:39:31,719 --> 00:39:33,719
Speaker 10: I'm more of a tenant guy. So like even if

851
00:39:34,040 --> 00:39:36,960
Speaker 10: even if Overstone's going on the reverse going behind.

852
00:39:36,600 --> 00:39:36,840
Speaker 11: Him and.

853
00:39:38,719 --> 00:39:43,040
Speaker 8: Well play my point being whether it's overshown or Micah.

854
00:39:43,040 --> 00:39:44,560
Speaker 8: And the reason I say Micah, and this is what

855
00:39:44,640 --> 00:39:47,759
Speaker 8: leads to the question Mike Zimmer, when asked if Overshown

856
00:39:47,800 --> 00:39:51,680
Speaker 8: would spy Lamar Jackson like he spied Deshaun Watson, Zimmer said,

857
00:39:51,719 --> 00:39:53,959
Speaker 8: you know, maybe or maybe we'll spy him with Michael

858
00:39:54,000 --> 00:39:56,359
Speaker 8: Parsons because that guy's kind of fast as well.

859
00:39:56,920 --> 00:39:59,600
Speaker 7: Fair enough, bro, what a match up that that would be.

860
00:39:59,680 --> 00:40:02,760
Speaker 8: But I don't I don't know that it's necessary, probably

861
00:40:02,760 --> 00:40:05,560
Speaker 8: because Micah forty faster.

862
00:40:06,080 --> 00:40:08,399
Speaker 7: But ten yards split literally the.

863
00:40:08,280 --> 00:40:11,919
Speaker 8: Same one point five nine seconds pre draft, literally one

864
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Speaker 8: point five nine seconds pre draft for de Marvion Overshown,

865
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Speaker 8: one point five nine seconds pre draft for Michael Parsons.

866
00:40:17,200 --> 00:40:20,239
Speaker 8: Their ten yard split is exactly the same, so the

867
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Speaker 8: burst is the same. So all you need him over

868
00:40:23,920 --> 00:40:28,720
Speaker 8: shown to do is keep keep Lamar Jackson from burning

869
00:40:28,760 --> 00:40:31,759
Speaker 8: the corner and then getting out into true space where

870
00:40:31,760 --> 00:40:33,160
Speaker 8: he damaged the second.

871
00:40:33,000 --> 00:40:35,520
Speaker 6: And you do that by setting Micah up the middle there.

872
00:40:37,080 --> 00:40:40,680
Speaker 8: And just over shown the spine on the here we are, here,

873
00:40:40,719 --> 00:40:45,479
Speaker 8: we are, this is We're gonna win. It doesn't truly work,

874
00:40:45,640 --> 00:40:47,680
Speaker 8: It doesn't truly work in the inverse right because you

875
00:40:47,840 --> 00:40:51,920
Speaker 8: you we just talked about Marveon having trouble right now,

876
00:40:52,000 --> 00:40:56,520
Speaker 8: disengaging blocks on larger guys. Micah obviously ships blocks like

877
00:40:56,960 --> 00:40:59,560
Speaker 8: water on a duck's back. Okay, so you can't say, well,

878
00:40:59,600 --> 00:41:01,920
Speaker 8: spy with Micah and then put to Marvy On and

879
00:41:02,000 --> 00:41:04,560
Speaker 8: though you can't, right, so I'm right here with Josh.

880
00:41:04,640 --> 00:41:09,160
Speaker 8: The solution is is that you threaten the interior with

881
00:41:09,560 --> 00:41:13,600
Speaker 8: Michael Parsons flushing Lamar out where you have a QB

882
00:41:13,680 --> 00:41:16,000
Speaker 8: spye to Marvey On Overshan Waiting, who has the exact

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Speaker 5: If this happens just one time on Sunday, one time,

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Speaker 3: And just point up to him. Josh is gonna be like,

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Speaker 7: I like it, guys, I do.

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Speaker 3: I like the idea. I like the overall matchup.

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Speaker 5: I think there's a shot here for Dallas to rebound

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Speaker 5: in a big way defensively.

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Speaker 5: Is it gonna be easy? Absolutely not? Because Lamar Jackson

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Speaker 5: Wednesday, we will preview the Cowboys offensive matchup. Tomorrow, Isaiah

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Speaker 3: He will give us.

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Speaker 5: Some QB vision diving deep into the film for the

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Speaker 5: Cowboys matchup with the Ravens defense, which has some studs

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Speaker 5: on that side of the.

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Speaker 3: Football as well.

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Speaker 5: Quickly, before we say goodbye, I want to talk about

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Speaker 5: most underrated player we've seen on the Cowboys defense.

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Speaker 7: So far this year.

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Speaker 8: Most underrated so far this year. You know what I said,

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Speaker 8: I'm gonna stick with DeMarcus Lawrence. I think even after

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Speaker 8: the game that he had in Week one, there are

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Speaker 8: still and this is a testament to not a testament,

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Speaker 8: but this is evidenced by conversations I've been having on

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Speaker 8: social media. There's still this wildly underrating of what DeMarcus

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Speaker 8: Lawrence brings to the table for the Cowboys, and it

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Speaker 8: is it is mind numbing how how people aren't really

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Speaker 8: paying attention to what he does on the field. And then,

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Speaker 8: of course you look at Week two and the majority

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Speaker 8: of the defense kind of with the bed. But then

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Speaker 8: you look at that fifty seven yard touchdown from Alvin Kamara,

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Speaker 8: and who was that almost chasing him?

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Speaker 7: Who was still yeah, who was still.

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Speaker 8: Paying right even when things were getting well out of hand.

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Speaker 8: It was DeMarcus Lawrence showing the effort, putting it on film,

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Speaker 8: holding guys accountable. So, for me, the most underrated remains

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Speaker 8: DeMarcus Lawrence.

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Speaker 10: I like it for me, Oh so, Dickie Zoo, I

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Speaker 10: don't think. I don't think enough praise has sent his way. Granted,

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Speaker 10: you look at Pro Football Focus and his rating is

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Speaker 10: in the dirt right now because of that Saints game.

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Speaker 6: Unwarranted in my opinion.

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Speaker 10: I think, granted, you know that they got out physical

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Speaker 10: to excuse me, in the last game, but since he

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Speaker 10: got to the Cowboys, and I'm also sort of encompassing

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Speaker 10: last year too.

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Speaker 6: I know we're talking sport this year, but man, unsung

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Speaker 6: hero for me on the defense. Oh so, diggi Zua.

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Speaker 5: I was trying to look up what his PFF grade is.

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Speaker 5: My internet's running a little slow, but I was in

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Speaker 5: the thirties after last year.

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Speaker 7: It really it was.

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Speaker 5: It was very not he he was washed off the

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Speaker 5: ball a couple different times, but he was also probably

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Speaker 5: the most effective defensive tackle in the entire game. So

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Speaker 5: I mean, in a game like that, I get it

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Speaker 5: because everybody else is having a bad game. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 5: that's that's a tough one to be different. I agree

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Speaker 5: with both of you guys. I think de Lall probably

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Speaker 5: would have been my choice as well. I'm gonna go

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Speaker 5: with Jordan Lewis because even even whenever you're looking at

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Speaker 5: the struggles that Kaitlin Carson had in Week two, the

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Speaker 5: struggles that even Trayvon Diggs had from a physical standpoint

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Speaker 5: in week two. You never really saw Jordan Lewis on

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Speaker 5: film getting beat a ton. I think maybe one time

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Speaker 5: in that game he got beat for one of those

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Speaker 5: first down receptions, but consistently physicality, coverage wise.

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Speaker 3: Right place, right time.

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Speaker 5: He does everything right and he's becoming a weapon for

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Speaker 5: that secondary, and.

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Speaker 10: It's hard to stop the run when run blockers are

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Speaker 10: in the secondary.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, absolutely, Malling you you know what I mean.

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Speaker 8: Like, it's he's the best tackler that you have in

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Speaker 8: your secondary, one of the best tacklers you have on

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Speaker 8: your defensive roster, locker room leader. He can take the

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Speaker 8: ball away both in the air and force fumbles. As

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Speaker 8: Christian McCaffrey. Jordan Lewis, he gets it done. And every

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Speaker 8: year there's this faction of fans that are trying to

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Speaker 8: replace Jordan Lewis, and every year he shows them why

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Speaker 8: he is irreplaceable until further notice.

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Speaker 5: I might have been in that camp in twenty twenty,

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Speaker 5: right up until Post's injury, the first injury that he had,

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Speaker 5: I might have been in that camp.

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Speaker 3: There's no way I'm ever getting in that camp. Like,

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Speaker 3: he is a top notch.

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Speaker 5: Player for that secondary, and he's continued to get better

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Speaker 5: and better as the years have gone on. So uh,

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Speaker 5: the point of this segment of underrated players is all

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Speaker 5: three of those guys are gonna have to step up

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Speaker 5: and take their game to the next level. Nice if

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Speaker 5: Mike Zimmer is going to have success in Week three,

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Speaker 5: that's exactly what we're looking at going into this Week

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Speaker 5: three matchup.

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Speaker 7: Have in mind, who's that Joseph.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, he doesn't fall into the underrated category, but he

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Speaker 8: does fall into the category of I wouldn't say overrated

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Speaker 8: simply because he's only two games in and he was

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Speaker 8: he missed all the training camp because he's a mercenary,

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Speaker 8: so he needs to ramp up. But I say that

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Speaker 8: to say there is expectation that he will do far

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Speaker 8: better than what we saw him do against the Saints

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Speaker 8: as far as getting pushed back and getting pushed off

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Speaker 8: the line. He's here for the opposite of that, right Phillips. Now,

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Speaker 8: Jordan Phillips did have a very solid Week one, but

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Speaker 8: lin between Week one and Week two. Keeping in mind again,

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Speaker 8: he's ramping up. The Cowboys need more from him, and

1054
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Speaker 8: they need more from him a saptually, and that begins

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Speaker 8: Sunday against the Ravens. So definitely not gonna say the

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Speaker 8: guy's overrated. Good word, yeah, because I believe he can

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Speaker 8: still impact the game positively for the Cowboys. They just

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Speaker 8: need that ramp up to be done like right now,

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Speaker 8: A a saptually. I like it, new work, go with it, yep,

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Speaker 8: look it up all right?

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Speaker 3: That does it for us.

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Speaker 5: Here on talking Cowboys for Chris being in the back,

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Speaker 5: Josh Rodriguez, Patrick, no se Walker. I'm Kyle Yellman saying

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Speaker 5: so long, We'll see you tomorrow with the Cowboys offensive

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Speaker 5: preview against the Ravens.

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