WEBVTT - NLP Town Hall

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<v Speaker 2>Welcome, Welcome, Welcome, Welcome, Welcome.

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<v Speaker 3>Welcome, Welcome home, everybody. This is another mini pod. Andrew's

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<v Speaker 3>gotta beat going. I can't here, but that's all right

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<v Speaker 3>cause I am still real clear. Hey anyway, I ain't

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<v Speaker 3>gonna give you all my clothes, you know, to be

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<v Speaker 3>trying to throw me out.

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<v Speaker 4>I love it, I love it, But today.

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<v Speaker 3>Is it is a special episode because we're going to

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<v Speaker 3>do a little NLP town hall. We got some questions

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<v Speaker 3>that y'all have asked and we want to make sure

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<v Speaker 3>that we get to answer them, so we gotta kick

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<v Speaker 3>it off with this.

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<v Speaker 5>Lego high Native Lamb Pod. Thank you so much for

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<v Speaker 5>all that you do, Andrew, Tiffany, and Angela. I've been

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<v Speaker 5>following you since day one, and you've just done an

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<v Speaker 5>excellent job and you continue to do so. I so

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<v Speaker 5>appreciate you. I have two questions and also two resources,

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<v Speaker 5>but I've got to make the ninety second deadline, so

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<v Speaker 5>I'm gonna go with my questions first. I'm concerned about this.

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<v Speaker 5>You won't have to vote again. Comment that was made

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<v Speaker 5>to a group by the current president elect, and I

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<v Speaker 5>want to know how we can fight that and if

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<v Speaker 5>it's even legal, But he gets out of stuff that's

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<v Speaker 5>legal anyway. That's number one. Number two, the privatization of

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<v Speaker 5>the weather, which with climate change and extreme weather events,

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<v Speaker 5>is concerning, particularly because it would mean that people could

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<v Speaker 5>not protect themselves by knowing what's going on and what

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<v Speaker 5>they need to do. Those are my two action things.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, first of all, did y'all feel the weight of

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<v Speaker 4>her having to say president?

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<v Speaker 6>Yes.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll be honest, I don't think there is anything we

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<v Speaker 1>can do about the like not voting again right now.

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<v Speaker 1>I just to remind people they don't officially take power

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<v Speaker 1>until after inauguration January twenty. They have people call me over, thanks,

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<v Speaker 1>my damn mess with you. Yet I'm like, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>they're not in the White House yet, so that happens

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<v Speaker 1>after inauguration. So we have to see what policies they

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<v Speaker 1>put forth. But they've been eroding our democratic core principles

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<v Speaker 1>for a long time. I mean we've already seen this

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<v Speaker 1>with restrictive voting laws that took place across the country

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<v Speaker 1>post Shelby be Holder, which was of course the Supreme

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<v Speaker 1>Court decision that rolled back voting rights. So I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know how to attack an attack that we have not

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<v Speaker 1>seen from this administration yet. I think we have to

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<v Speaker 1>brace ourselves, wait for them to take power, and be

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<v Speaker 1>ready to fight when it's time. But for the month

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<v Speaker 1>of December, we're on strike, black women, you have a

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<v Speaker 1>right to rest.

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<v Speaker 4>I would also add Tiffany, we should also take them

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<v Speaker 4>at their words. Yeah, So the good nurse is that

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<v Speaker 4>they've pretty much told us what they want to do,

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<v Speaker 4>who they want to go after, how they want to dismantle,

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<v Speaker 4>and who they want to do the dismantling. And I

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<v Speaker 4>just think we've got institutions. Yes, we have organizations out there. Yes,

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<v Speaker 4>there'll be some folks who will buck the system. I

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<v Speaker 4>think obviously the fact that the final I think Congression

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<v Speaker 4>seat has been decided it went to the Democrat, it

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<v Speaker 4>lessens the divibe in the House. I think they're now

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<v Speaker 4>at five maybe three three three to five vote margin.

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<v Speaker 4>So so so I think more than anything, y'all, we're

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<v Speaker 4>gonna have to be ready mentally, mentally ready, But then

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<v Speaker 4>also our individuals, organizations, institutions, community organizations, and groups, we're

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<v Speaker 4>gonna have to be prepared to activate when it comes

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<v Speaker 4>to fighting for our selves. Now, if beyond that you've

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<v Speaker 4>got energy, fight for everybody else. But I also believe

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<v Speaker 4>by fighting for ourselves, we will undoubtedly ensure to everybody

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<v Speaker 4>else's safety as we always have. They benefit off of

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<v Speaker 4>our labor. And the other thing I would simply say

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<v Speaker 4>is to please, please please take care of our mental

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<v Speaker 4>because we can't do this every day, three sixty five

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<v Speaker 4>times foe, it's gonna be too much.

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<v Speaker 3>And then just real quick, the House majority is two

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<v Speaker 3>or three. They're still not player, so it's a two

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<v Speaker 3>or three seat majority for this. I'm going to say

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<v Speaker 3>that I think a lot of that hangs in the

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<v Speaker 3>balance with the courts and the Supreme Court, which is

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<v Speaker 3>also still very scary. We've watched them piecemeal destroy the

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<v Speaker 3>Voting Rights Act of nineteen sixty five, something that used

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<v Speaker 3>to be supported and reauthorized every year on a bipartisan level.

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<v Speaker 3>So I'm not sure the privatization of whether we might

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<v Speaker 3>get to at another time, because we want to stay on

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<v Speaker 3>this broader theme about democracy hanging in the balance, and

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<v Speaker 3>with that will go to our next question.

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<v Speaker 2>Good evening, Angela, Tiffany and my man Andrew. This is

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<v Speaker 2>Mante from Maryland, and I had a question for you.

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<v Speaker 2>Just like you, I've mourned, I've asked numerous questions, I've

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<v Speaker 2>avoided watching the news, and you know, now I'm at

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<v Speaker 2>the point of acceptance and now I'm wondering, based on

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<v Speaker 2>something that you mentioned in your mini pod about how

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<v Speaker 2>we as Democrats failed at the ground roots level of

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<v Speaker 2>reaching out to everybody and organizing at that place, what

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<v Speaker 2>should we do right now? We got four years of

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<v Speaker 2>BS that we know we're going to have to deal with,

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<v Speaker 2>But what should we be doing right now to prepare

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<v Speaker 2>for those midterm elections and especially for that presidential election

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<v Speaker 2>in four years. Yeah, we don't have a rough road

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<v Speaker 2>to hole, but it is what it is now. But

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<v Speaker 2>what can we be doing right now? What do we

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<v Speaker 2>do at the groundroops level? How do we organize at

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<v Speaker 2>this point? What can someone like me who does not

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<v Speaker 2>live in a swing state do to affect the overall

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<v Speaker 2>for the country. I just want us to have a

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<v Speaker 2>goal and something in mind and motivate us for these

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<v Speaker 2>next few years as we deal with what we're going

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<v Speaker 2>to deal with. But any ideas you guys have will

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<v Speaker 2>be most appreciated. Thank you for all you do and

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<v Speaker 2>welcome home.

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<v Speaker 4>Awesome y'all. I know I answered a part of this

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<v Speaker 4>through sort of a political lens in one of our

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<v Speaker 4>main episodes. I wonder if y'all had other ideas outside

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<v Speaker 4>of the whole preparing, running, training, you know, and paying

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<v Speaker 4>attention to local offices. Are there other things that may

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<v Speaker 4>be non electoral you'd recommend, Well.

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<v Speaker 1>He lives in Maryland, but that doesn't mean that you

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<v Speaker 1>can't impact other people. Angela worked on Andrew's campaign. Andrew

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<v Speaker 1>was in Florida. You can give five dollars a five

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<v Speaker 1>hundred dollars to candidates. Pay attention to state races. The

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<v Speaker 1>state houses a lot are Republican controlled, and that's where

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of this shitty policy comes from. That bubbles

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<v Speaker 1>up to the federal government. So make sure you pay

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<v Speaker 1>attention to that. If you have children, show up at

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<v Speaker 1>those school board elections, because a lot of people use

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<v Speaker 1>school boards as a launching pad to launch their careers,

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<v Speaker 1>and lately it's been a conservative launching pad to be

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<v Speaker 1>a crusader against these made up cultural wars. There's also

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<v Speaker 1>GOTV efforts. There are no such thing. There is no

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<v Speaker 1>such thing as off election years. Every year there are

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<v Speaker 1>elections at the state, federal, and local level, so yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that's not You can work on a campaign, you can

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<v Speaker 1>door knock, there are issue campaigns, so a ton of

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<v Speaker 1>things to do.

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<v Speaker 6>As you see it, you know.

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<v Speaker 3>I have to tell you guys something that's really that

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<v Speaker 3>was on my heart while I was hearing him talk,

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<v Speaker 3>and that is I think that there's way too much

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<v Speaker 3>attention being placed on GOTV, on getting out the vote

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<v Speaker 3>for those of you who don't know what that is,

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<v Speaker 3>way too much attention on how we get ready for

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<v Speaker 3>the next election. I think the biggest challenge with black

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<v Speaker 3>political power is that we rev up and ramp up

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<v Speaker 3>to fall back, and we rev up and ramp up

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<v Speaker 3>to fall back.

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<v Speaker 6>If there is no off.

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<v Speaker 3>Season, as Andrew said, he said, black women, you all

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<v Speaker 3>get to go on strike. There's no days off. What

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<v Speaker 3>does that mean. It means that our organizing isn't just

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<v Speaker 3>about protecting our voting rights or exercise exercising our franchise

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<v Speaker 3>at the ballot box. It is holding people accountable to

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<v Speaker 3>an agenda that we want to see happen on the

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<v Speaker 3>policy level, I mean and in policy on every single

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<v Speaker 3>level of government.

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<v Speaker 6>I think the other thing that we have to be.

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<v Speaker 3>Mindful of is how we talk about people. There's a

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<v Speaker 3>lot of conversation about swing states, but not as much

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<v Speaker 3>about swing voters. There's a lot of conversation about what

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<v Speaker 3>people needed to hear in this election, and not about

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<v Speaker 3>what people need to hear period. You cannot forget the

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<v Speaker 3>humanity of a person and only consider them when there's

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<v Speaker 3>time for a transaction. I don't like to be engaged

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<v Speaker 3>by transactional people.

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<v Speaker 6>I hate it.

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<v Speaker 3>I have a point of privilege because I'm engaged all

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<v Speaker 3>the time in the electoral system, because I'm a strategist.

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<v Speaker 3>This is the work that I've been doing all of

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<v Speaker 3>my adult life. There are many other people who are

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<v Speaker 3>gravitated to and tossed aside every four years. That is

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<v Speaker 3>not sustainable. It's not okay. And we got to deal

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<v Speaker 3>with the elephant in the room. And the elephant is

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<v Speaker 3>getting bigger because you know, pun intended, because the GOP

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<v Speaker 3>is making pro by talking to the forgotten amongst us,

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<v Speaker 3>because we've decided that their low propensity, or they don't

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<v Speaker 3>turn out, or they're low information, so they don't deserve

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<v Speaker 3>a conversation. They don't deserve to be asked what they

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<v Speaker 3>need to hear or see or feel from their politicians.

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<v Speaker 3>That's not a good strategy going forward for us as

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<v Speaker 3>black people, or frankly for elected officials. You know, we

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<v Speaker 3>avoid those conversations because we don't want to argue, but

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<v Speaker 3>those not having those arguments means these people just be like,

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<v Speaker 3>forget it. I don't think that's a good strategy. That's

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<v Speaker 3>the one thing I hate about DC the most is

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<v Speaker 3>the transaction. Imagine when you don't deal with politics at

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<v Speaker 3>all and they treating you like.

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<v Speaker 6>Did you vote? Tip told us that when we were

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<v Speaker 6>knocking doors.

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<v Speaker 3>Andrew, remember, Tipp was like, did we not start the

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<v Speaker 3>conversation with these people like did you vote?

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<v Speaker 6>Tip was like, let me talk to this lady about

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<v Speaker 6>her dog?

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<v Speaker 4>Was they weren't having us talk about the election folks?

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<v Speaker 4>When that went went by. The other piece that I

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<v Speaker 4>loved about where you were saying there is that we're

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<v Speaker 4>also always doing the talking, but not a lot of

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<v Speaker 4>the listening. And when we sat and listened, everything she

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<v Speaker 4>disavowed about politics she validated about politics and about herself,

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<v Speaker 4>her engagement and her interests. All we had to do

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<v Speaker 4>is listening, listen, and then give it right back to her.

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<v Speaker 4>We're like girl, you said you don't like people. You

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<v Speaker 4>love people, and they love you. It's clear, so I

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<v Speaker 4>love you, know the listening part and the other piece

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<v Speaker 4>you said about, you know, avoiding the hard conversations and

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<v Speaker 4>then them hearing from the other side. The avoidance of

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<v Speaker 4>the hard conversations have led people to believe we're not

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<v Speaker 4>talking to them period. Yes, so it has the reverse effect.

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<v Speaker 4>You don't want to get in the conflict, and they're saying,

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<v Speaker 4>you're not coming up my street at all. You want

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<v Speaker 4>have a thing to say about my lived experience because

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<v Speaker 4>everything I do hear you talk about and got nothing

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<v Speaker 4>to do with me, and I don't see myself reflected

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<v Speaker 4>in it. So true that power has to change for sure.

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<v Speaker 7>What's up, Native Lampard. My name is Harriet and I'm

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<v Speaker 7>calling in from the great state of Georgia. First, please

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<v Speaker 7>stop hanging your heads down low. I'm proud of you all.

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<v Speaker 7>You all had an amazing run and you did an

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<v Speaker 7>invaluable service to our people. You survived what I consider

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<v Speaker 7>to be public lynchings, and you upset the system by

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<v Speaker 7>providing a voice for the voiceless at a time when

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<v Speaker 7>we lost a lot of our political commentators like Trevor Noah.

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<v Speaker 7>You all stepped in and filled a gap that was

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<v Speaker 7>so necessary. So thank you all for what you've done,

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<v Speaker 7>and thank you for not abandoning us. And I would

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<v Speaker 7>love to see you all pivot. You know, I would

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<v Speaker 7>love to see more of an offensive posture, not so

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<v Speaker 7>much commentary on what the Trump administration is doing, but

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<v Speaker 7>what is the resistance moving doing? And to that end,

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<v Speaker 7>I want to call it to light a call to

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<v Speaker 7>action from the Working Families Party because I recently had

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<v Speaker 7>a Come to Jesus movement attending a mass call in

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<v Speaker 7>which everyday Americans have been invited to meet in small

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<v Speaker 7>groups three to seven people, large group no more than fifty.

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<v Speaker 7>You can assemble in libraries and community spaces and homes

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<v Speaker 7>and restaurants with the intention of holding space for one another,

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<v Speaker 7>taking a look at where we've come from, where we are,

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<v Speaker 7>and where we're going.

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<v Speaker 4>Nice.

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<v Speaker 6>I love it.

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<v Speaker 3>Tiff, you were quiet on the last one. Why don't

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<v Speaker 3>what you think about the small groups idea getting together?

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>I mean I think that is And you know, I

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<v Speaker 1>want to clarify something because when we say grassroots, I

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<v Speaker 1>sometimes think people don't fully grasp the concept of what

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<v Speaker 1>that means. Grass roots is your community.

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<v Speaker 6>You know, even if you're.

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<v Speaker 1>Upper crust, wealthy white woman, you know you can get

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<v Speaker 1>they're in your community. In fact, I would encourage all

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<v Speaker 1>to gather in your communities and have some necessary conversations

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<v Speaker 1>about rights and sharing in the responsibility of preserving democracy.

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<v Speaker 1>So yeah, any any place that people gather to do work, somebody.

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<v Speaker 1>People always have to tell me, don't try to eat

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<v Speaker 1>the elephant, you know, chew off a little piece and

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<v Speaker 1>do what you can do. And if everybody does a little,

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<v Speaker 1>nobody has to do a lot. So I like that.

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<v Speaker 1>I gotta say, though I'm about to be I think

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<v Speaker 1>y'all won't get on you'all nerves the last half of

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<v Speaker 1>this podcast. I don't know how I feel about taking emojis.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna tell you what my challenge, That's what I

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't there a real name and it was an emoji.

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<v Speaker 1>And I just think with the rapidly advancing generative AI,

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<v Speaker 1>the point of our videos is we want to make

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<v Speaker 1>sure you are a real authentic person. I believe she's

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<v Speaker 1>a real authentic So this ain't none against you. Tell me, Harry,

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<v Speaker 1>we believe you, says that we know, yes, but I do.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, I want to see people's actual faces to

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<v Speaker 1>know because every time you see people on Twitter or

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<v Speaker 1>you know, any of these social media well mainly Twitter,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's like, you don't think we know y'all pretending

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<v Speaker 1>to be black, like we know how black people talk.

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<v Speaker 1>Sometimes they posted, but also she was like a victim

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<v Speaker 1>or something. I get all that it wasn't about her.

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<v Speaker 1>I want to be really clear, I'm not saying anything

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<v Speaker 1>negative about her. I believe her to, you know, to

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<v Speaker 1>be real off.

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<v Speaker 3>In the text messages he get talking about he agree

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<v Speaker 3>with you, Okay, yeah, I.

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<v Speaker 1>Think you know, when it comes to to AI and

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<v Speaker 1>authenticity and you know, hearing from our viewers, I just.

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<v Speaker 6>Podcast.

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<v Speaker 1>I just I think there has to be some clear

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<v Speaker 1>guidelines on who we're platforming and how we're platforming people,

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<v Speaker 1>because we don't want to be caught out there with

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<v Speaker 1>some Project Veritas video coming in here. So anyway, well,

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<v Speaker 1>just to add credibility to her video, to her emoji video,

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<v Speaker 1>our producer Lauren said she was on the same call,

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<v Speaker 1>so at least we can validate that.

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<v Speaker 6>I know Tip likes us.

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<v Speaker 1>To again, I just want to be clear. I wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>talking about her. I'm saying in general, when it comes

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<v Speaker 1>to people.

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<v Speaker 6>Submitting emoji videos.

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<v Speaker 1>Emoji videos, yeah, for many reasons.

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<v Speaker 4>Can they do like black screen.

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<v Speaker 1>Then it's not a video. I don't think she's gonna

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<v Speaker 1>want that profile look saying how I feel it's a

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<v Speaker 1>democracy If y'all don't, don't mind it.

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<v Speaker 4>But I think fair and I think it's something we're

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<v Speaker 4>gonna have to be increasingly concerned about giving the direction

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<v Speaker 4>of this administration, this next administration to technology.

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<v Speaker 6>So I just I'm gonna be ai in the next podcast.

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<v Speaker 6>Well we know you so, but you don't.

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<v Speaker 3>You ain't gonna know, like I'm never gonna know my

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<v Speaker 3>eyebrows stay over here.

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<v Speaker 4>I want to know your gestures.

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<v Speaker 1>I want to get this last time because I know

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<v Speaker 1>this last video. I think I disagree with this too.

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<v Speaker 1>But let's roll it.

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<v Speaker 6>Not you not you tipping off that way? Welcome home?

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<v Speaker 1>Once all told me, but let.

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<v Speaker 4>Me hear it.

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<v Speaker 6>Okay, let's see maybe you did.

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<v Speaker 3>You'll agree.

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<v Speaker 8>H Hey Native lampod, my name is Rica. I am

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<v Speaker 8>from Seattle. Hey, Angela. So I believe that we lost

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<v Speaker 8>this election on education and when you're not educated about

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<v Speaker 8>how this country is run and civics, you will vote,

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<v Speaker 8>vote against your best interests.

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<v Speaker 4>So here's what I propose.

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<v Speaker 8>Trump is going to elect fifteen people to his cabinet,

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<v Speaker 8>maybe sixteen with Elon Musk, and then there's the president

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<v Speaker 8>and vice president. What does the attorney general do? What

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<v Speaker 8>does the Vice president do? What does the Secretary of

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<v Speaker 8>State do? What is Vivek and Elon Musk going to

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<v Speaker 8>be doing?

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<v Speaker 5>Right?

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<v Speaker 8>So that's what like fifteen eighteen twenty people that we

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<v Speaker 8>should be watching. What if we divvied up gave homework

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<v Speaker 8>to fifteen twenty people in the Native Lampod universe. So

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<v Speaker 8>for example, say Matt Gates, say he's appointed, Say I

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<v Speaker 8>rica am assigned to follow all things Matt Gates and

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<v Speaker 8>what he is doing as the Attorney general and what

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<v Speaker 8>the Attorney General of the United States does and can

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<v Speaker 8>do has.

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<v Speaker 6>Done in the past.

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<v Speaker 8>What if we divvied all of that up, somebody else

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<v Speaker 8>had secretary of State and so on and so forth,

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<v Speaker 8>and then we report it back to the Native Lampod

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<v Speaker 8>to let each other know what is happening, right, because

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<v Speaker 8>we're all so busy, there's so much going on, We're

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<v Speaker 8>just trying to survive. That all of us don't have

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<v Speaker 8>time to do all of that homework. So what if

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<v Speaker 8>we collectively did the homework together and educated each other

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<v Speaker 8>on civics in this country.

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<v Speaker 6>That's what I propose. So yeah, I love this question.

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<v Speaker 3>I do want to clarify to my homegirl in Seattle

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<v Speaker 3>that we don't know how many people Trump is gonna

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<v Speaker 3>make cabinet level. It is gonna be more than twelve.

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<v Speaker 3>So I just want to make sure that we're twenty

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<v Speaker 3>six disappointments that need Senate confirmation, yes, but they're not

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<v Speaker 3>all cabinet level even when they're sinning confirmed. But I

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<v Speaker 3>do know they're greater than twelve. So I just want

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<v Speaker 3>to make sure that we that we that we doubled

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<v Speaker 3>down on that really quick. And then Tiff, I know,

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<v Speaker 3>had a thought about being reporters, and then I have

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<v Speaker 3>a thought about that too.

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<v Speaker 6>And I have a question.

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<v Speaker 1>We don't have time to get into it on this Okay, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>we don't have time to get into it on this podcast.

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<v Speaker 1>But I have a question about if, like what then

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<v Speaker 1>what is the cabinet, because like the US Trade Rep

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<v Speaker 1>is part of the cabinet that Senate confirmed. And I

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<v Speaker 1>remember this because I had an argument in the newsroom

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<v Speaker 1>like fifteen years ago, and I was like, yeah, but

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<v Speaker 1>that's not cabinet level, and they're like, no, Trade Rep

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<v Speaker 1>is cabinet. So anyway, at a later time we can

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<v Speaker 1>talk about what constitutes a member of the cabinet.

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<v Speaker 3>But on tip this is a good point. I just

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<v Speaker 3>let me just tell you just one thing. A president

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<v Speaker 3>also has discretion on who they decide its cabinet level

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<v Speaker 3>beyond those departments as well. The Trade Rep is generally

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<v Speaker 3>cabinet level, but I think that that is no, no, no,

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<v Speaker 3>it is cabinet level regardless. But there are other appointments

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<v Speaker 3>that the president can make and decide that they're going

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<v Speaker 3>to be cabinet level.

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<v Speaker 1>The president can also decide what agencies are housed in DC.

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<v Speaker 1>So Donald Trump, through executive action can say, oh, I

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I now I want the Department of Defense

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<v Speaker 1>house that out of mar A Lago or next door

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<v Speaker 1>to mar Lago. Like of course he went over eighty

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<v Speaker 1>five percent of federal government workers don't work in DC,

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<v Speaker 1>but the agencies or house here. So anyway, speaking the civics,

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<v Speaker 1>you can see that even even we need a check

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<v Speaker 1>in on civics sometimes, so to be continued the conversation

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<v Speaker 1>on what constitutes the cabinet. But yeah, this is my

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<v Speaker 1>challenge with this, you guys. Honestly, I think citizen journalism

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<v Speaker 1>is amazing, and I've seen people do amazing things there.

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<v Speaker 1>But to armed people who aren't vetted, who we don't

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<v Speaker 1>know and say yes, go back and report one. To

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<v Speaker 1>even get access to information, sometimes it is behind it's

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<v Speaker 1>not behind a paywall, but what I would call a

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<v Speaker 1>journalism wall, you know, like everything is not on Google,

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<v Speaker 1>you know. And I think that's part of my challenge

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<v Speaker 1>with people who go on air and they ask them

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<v Speaker 1>assistant to pull pull me the top five facts about

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<v Speaker 1>this five minutes before they go on air, and it's

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<v Speaker 1>like care enough to become a subject matter expert, go

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<v Speaker 1>down that rabbit hole. Read when I go after things,

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<v Speaker 1>when I study things. But I wanted to talk about prisons.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't do that five minutes before the show. I

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<v Speaker 1>spent three days, you know, looking looking at prisons, pulling

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<v Speaker 1>up old segments.

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<v Speaker 6>I did.

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<v Speaker 1>And that that does requ require a commitment, It does

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<v Speaker 1>acquire a skill set. It does require having access a

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<v Speaker 1>press pass, a phone call, knowing how to navigate these systems.

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<v Speaker 1>To get information to make sure. So if we're arming

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<v Speaker 1>people to do that, it's still going to require a

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<v Speaker 1>level of fact checking. Misinformation and disinformation is a huge deal.

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<v Speaker 1>And even in our comments in videos we've seen, I've

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<v Speaker 1>seen so many people get things wrong, quote something, misstate something.

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<v Speaker 1>So I think people come here to make sure that

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<v Speaker 1>they're getting vetted information as factual at least that's what

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<v Speaker 1>I take that very very seriously, as you guys know,

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<v Speaker 1>and I try my best to do that here. So

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<v Speaker 1>I just wonder logistically how that will work. If we're saying, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>go out there and cover it. I like the commitment

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<v Speaker 1>of saying yeah, we want to be a part of

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<v Speaker 1>it too, But on the back end, having the fact

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<v Speaker 1>check that and vet that, I think is probably some

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<v Speaker 1>staffing issues that we couldn't support, to be honest, But

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<v Speaker 1>I love the idea since that I'm not putting like

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<v Speaker 1>I love that you said it, and my co host

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<v Speaker 1>probably love the idea. But I'm just thinking from a

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<v Speaker 1>journalistic standard, a newsroom standard, of how to make sure

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<v Speaker 1>they were always saying factual things that we took actual time,

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<v Speaker 1>that we didn't google in five minutes, because that is

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<v Speaker 1>a journalists will tell you that is not research, and

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<v Speaker 1>that's not how you get there.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I first of all completely respect for your position

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<v Speaker 4>here and you as a journalist. I wouldn't expect anything

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<v Speaker 4>else from U, Tiffany, And certainly if you heard the

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<v Speaker 4>word reporting, I think what I heard was her saying,

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<v Speaker 4>and report back to the native land, you know, sort

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<v Speaker 4>of community, what you are following, looking at so on

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<v Speaker 4>and so forth. And quite frankly, some of the same

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<v Speaker 4>concerns you raised there may still you know, it may

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<v Speaker 4>still occur. I do love the idea of diving up

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<v Speaker 4>the work. And what I heard from that is like

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<v Speaker 4>we all share in this commitment to hold this government accountable.

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<v Speaker 4>Let's hold the cabinet members accountable, which, by the way,

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<v Speaker 4>the cabinet of course existed. The cabinet is an advisory

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<v Speaker 4>group to the president. But what makes you a cabinet

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<v Speaker 4>member Through the Constitution of the United States those fifteen

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<v Speaker 4>and to add a cabinet member it must be approved

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<v Speaker 4>by the Congress. Of course, are those who fall in

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<v Speaker 4>the line of secession, those who can become president should

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<v Speaker 4>the president be incapacitated going down the line of secession

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<v Speaker 4>from the Vice president, Speaker or the House President of

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<v Speaker 4>the Senate pro Tem. It then goes to the members

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<v Speaker 4>of the Cabinet, the fifteen members of the Cabinet, which

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<v Speaker 4>the order of who would then come next is based

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<v Speaker 4>off of the age in which that department was created,

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<v Speaker 4>so starting with Secretary of State onward and forward. But

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<v Speaker 4>nonetheless that help the whole idea of the civics lesson.

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<v Speaker 4>I think it's really powerful, more than what's happening with

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<v Speaker 4>one agency over another from time to time. Somebody who

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<v Speaker 4>is finding these really nuanced questions about the government that

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<v Speaker 4>may seem insignificant but actually show up more often in

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<v Speaker 4>our lives than we know, and educating, schooling us on

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<v Speaker 4>those kinds of things. I think that is something that

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<v Speaker 4>would be good for the show. And either through our

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<v Speaker 4>own research and knowledge of a certain area or through

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<v Speaker 4>research system, we can of course do the fact checking piece,

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<v Speaker 4>but love the idea of citizen reporting on basically what

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<v Speaker 4>makes a democracy and what are the civics components of

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<v Speaker 4>this government that we all have an obligation I think

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<v Speaker 4>to have access.

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<v Speaker 3>To just really quick. I like what you just said

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<v Speaker 3>to ag Tip. I agree with you on the fact

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<v Speaker 3>check and piece. I think that that's too much for

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<v Speaker 3>us to carry. But if we use our website, which

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<v Speaker 3>is native lampod dot com, as a place for people

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<v Speaker 3>to kind of do a group assignment, I'll tell you all,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm a collaborative learner. I loved group assignments growing up.

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<v Speaker 3>Even when we do our pre production calls in the morning,

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<v Speaker 3>I so love those because I'm like, oh, I didn't

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<v Speaker 3>think about this this way or whatever. So I like

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<v Speaker 3>the idea of one folks feeling not isolated in this

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<v Speaker 3>administration that is coming up. Two, yeah, do a cabinet watch.

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<v Speaker 3>We can even call it NLP Cabinet Watch or NLPFAM

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<v Speaker 3>Cabinet Watch. And people are just like, hey, did you

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<v Speaker 3>hear this thing?

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<v Speaker 6>Is this true? Is this real?

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<v Speaker 3>And they can even be kind of a fact check

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<v Speaker 3>source for each other, and maybe each week we can

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<v Speaker 3>look in there and see if there's something that we

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<v Speaker 3>want to share with the broader community outside of that

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<v Speaker 3>which in some ways this would function like a Reddit,

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<v Speaker 3>but specifically you know, on our site. If we have

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<v Speaker 3>that functionality that could be built in LOLO, that would

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<v Speaker 3>be great. But I really like the idea of a

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<v Speaker 3>group of signment where people do not feel isolated in

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<v Speaker 3>this upcoming administration, and Lolo said that she will have

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<v Speaker 3>details on how we could do something like that next week.

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<v Speaker 6>Today said that Tiff also.

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<v Speaker 3>Agrees that this might be a group of assignment that's

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<v Speaker 3>worth continuing and considering.

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<v Speaker 1>So can I love over time, But I want to

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<v Speaker 1>say something really quickly. Group assignments maybe does another minipod

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<v Speaker 1>I like group of signments. But I'm gonna tell you

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not a collaborative learner when I say group of assignment.

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<v Speaker 1>Like if the three of us don't do a group assignment,

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<v Speaker 1>it's like, Okay, I'm gonna go off and do my thing, Andrew,

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<v Speaker 1>you go do your part, Angel will do your part,

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<v Speaker 1>and then let's come back together, right and see if

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<v Speaker 1>these I don't like being in a room because spitball

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm like, no, no, no, I have a clear

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<v Speaker 1>like other people are a distraction sometimes when I'm like

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<v Speaker 1>clear minded and focused. So I don't know, I think

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<v Speaker 1>that's a work style. I'd be curious how maybe yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and maybe.

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<v Speaker 4>I like you could always end up with the work.

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<v Speaker 3>I agree with that too. There's definitely times where that happens.

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<v Speaker 3>But I do think that there's a space for brainstorming

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<v Speaker 3>there's a space to go back and do your work

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<v Speaker 3>and come back. And I think, no matter what, it's

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<v Speaker 3>gonna be some of that. Because we're talking about a

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<v Speaker 3>virtual group of sign We're not telling people get on Zoom.

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<v Speaker 3>We're just saying you can share what you're learning on

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<v Speaker 3>kind of like a Reddit type of a board or

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<v Speaker 3>something on our site, which we don't have yet. And

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<v Speaker 3>Lolo is telling me to wait to talk about that

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<v Speaker 3>any further next week. But our great ideas, I love it,

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<v Speaker 3>I love these questions, answer it.

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<v Speaker 6>We just want y'all involve.

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<v Speaker 3>Like our highest hope for this podcast is not that

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<v Speaker 3>you listen to us every week. It's that you feel

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<v Speaker 3>inspired to go and do some of this work yourself,

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<v Speaker 3>whether it's running for office, whether it's volunteering in your

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<v Speaker 3>community or overseas like Lolo did, or it is donating

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<v Speaker 3>to campaigns or keeping us all in check about what's

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<v Speaker 3>really going on and accountable.

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<v Speaker 6>So yes, exactly.

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<v Speaker 3>Well anyway, welcome home, y'all, listen and talk.

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<v Speaker 6>We can talk to y'all next time.

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<v Speaker 3>We wait over time, Bye bye, Welcome.

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