1 00:00:04,400 --> 00:00:10,680 Speaker 1: When she was born, she was not breathing. M We 2 00:00:10,680 --> 00:00:13,040 Speaker 1: were just crying because we felt like pretty much that 3 00:00:13,119 --> 00:00:16,760 Speaker 1: it was over at that point and out of pretty 4 00:00:16,800 --> 00:00:18,840 Speaker 1: much nowhere. She was just laying on my chest and 5 00:00:18,880 --> 00:00:21,560 Speaker 1: I was just rubbing my finger on her chest like this, 6 00:00:21,680 --> 00:00:25,840 Speaker 1: and um, she just kind of went, you know, just 7 00:00:25,960 --> 00:00:31,760 Speaker 1: like this tiny raspy breath. We're told we have you know, 8 00:00:32,159 --> 00:00:34,640 Speaker 1: four to seventy two hours at most, and so Hate 9 00:00:34,640 --> 00:00:36,520 Speaker 1: and I were just staring at her all the time, 10 00:00:36,640 --> 00:00:39,879 Speaker 1: like how much longer are we going to have? You? 11 00:00:40,200 --> 00:00:41,839 Speaker 1: You know, is it going to be an hour? Is 12 00:00:41,840 --> 00:00:43,159 Speaker 1: it going to be through the night? Is it going 13 00:00:43,240 --> 00:00:47,760 Speaker 1: to be two nights? You know, we had no idea 14 00:00:50,360 --> 00:01:02,640 Speaker 1: put another lag. Nobody here is good time. Welcome to 15 00:01:02,640 --> 00:01:10,120 Speaker 1: the fire Pit with Matt Joneller. So, by now, if 16 00:01:10,120 --> 00:01:13,039 Speaker 1: you're listening to this particular podcast, I'm going to assume 17 00:01:13,040 --> 00:01:15,880 Speaker 1: you've either read or watched the Hayden Springer story on 18 00:01:15,880 --> 00:01:19,920 Speaker 1: the fire Pit Collective dot com. If you haven't, I 19 00:01:20,000 --> 00:01:23,520 Speaker 1: strongly suggest you had paused. Now read the story, which 20 00:01:23,560 --> 00:01:26,720 Speaker 1: was written by Ryan French, and then watch the story, 21 00:01:27,319 --> 00:01:30,360 Speaker 1: which was produced by Ben Van Hook, shot by Henry Link, 22 00:01:30,760 --> 00:01:35,400 Speaker 1: and edited by Adam Showen. While you're doing that, I'll 23 00:01:35,400 --> 00:01:37,520 Speaker 1: take a second to thank our partners at link Soul 24 00:01:38,000 --> 00:01:42,360 Speaker 1: who don't just make clothes. They foster and cultivate community golf, 25 00:01:43,120 --> 00:01:46,520 Speaker 1: junior caddies, and a culture that has quickly become the 26 00:01:46,560 --> 00:01:51,080 Speaker 1: answer key for municipalities all over the country. Go to 27 00:01:51,120 --> 00:01:53,080 Speaker 1: link sol dot com and use promo code fire Pit 28 00:01:55,080 --> 00:01:59,080 Speaker 1: off your next purchase. Okay, back to the back story 29 00:01:59,200 --> 00:02:03,280 Speaker 1: of the hay and Springer story. As you all probably 30 00:02:03,280 --> 00:02:05,880 Speaker 1: know by now, the fire Pit Collective's first hire was 31 00:02:05,960 --> 00:02:10,080 Speaker 1: Ryan French, whose personal story was also a recent podcast. 32 00:02:11,280 --> 00:02:13,520 Speaker 1: In just a few weeks of working with Ryan, I 33 00:02:13,560 --> 00:02:17,799 Speaker 1: guess I'm stunned and yet not surprised at his relentless 34 00:02:17,840 --> 00:02:22,400 Speaker 1: delivery of compelling observations on aspiring tour pros. And when 35 00:02:22,440 --> 00:02:25,040 Speaker 1: he sent in his first draft of the Hayden Springer story, 36 00:02:25,120 --> 00:02:27,840 Speaker 1: I couldn't believe what I was reading. And it's not 37 00:02:27,960 --> 00:02:31,519 Speaker 1: just that Sage Springer took that first breath and then 38 00:02:31,840 --> 00:02:36,720 Speaker 1: so many more, or that while Sage is surviving, Hayden 39 00:02:37,080 --> 00:02:41,080 Speaker 1: was qualifying for the US Open, or that Emma lives 40 00:02:41,120 --> 00:02:44,520 Speaker 1: and works as a nurse all day every day to 41 00:02:44,639 --> 00:02:48,919 Speaker 1: make both the surviving and qualifying possible, and it's even 42 00:02:49,000 --> 00:02:51,840 Speaker 1: deeper than they do it all with such ease and 43 00:02:51,919 --> 00:02:54,760 Speaker 1: selfless grace. For me, it's also about the fact that 44 00:02:54,800 --> 00:02:58,919 Speaker 1: I'm a parent, that our son had complications at birth, 45 00:02:59,000 --> 00:03:01,160 Speaker 1: and if it wasn't for staff at the Winni Palmer 46 00:03:01,240 --> 00:03:05,399 Speaker 1: Hospital in Orlando, he wouldn't be alive today. So it's 47 00:03:05,400 --> 00:03:08,440 Speaker 1: all of that, which is why when watching the story 48 00:03:08,520 --> 00:03:11,160 Speaker 1: produced by Ben van Hook, my wife and I sobbed. 49 00:03:12,639 --> 00:03:15,880 Speaker 1: But it was an oddly good cry, and I'm happy 50 00:03:15,960 --> 00:03:19,560 Speaker 1: for them cry. As Ryan French said to me, you 51 00:03:19,639 --> 00:03:22,720 Speaker 1: think it's supposed to be a sad story, but it's not, 52 00:03:24,240 --> 00:03:27,200 Speaker 1: And I think that's the true miracle here. It's that 53 00:03:27,320 --> 00:03:34,360 Speaker 1: they're all refusing sadness, that Sage is denying death, and 54 00:03:34,440 --> 00:03:37,000 Speaker 1: that with Dad on the bag and the whole family 55 00:03:37,080 --> 00:03:39,520 Speaker 1: in the crowd this week, Haydn could win the whole 56 00:03:39,600 --> 00:03:43,320 Speaker 1: damn thing. So with that, I recently spoke to Ryan 57 00:03:43,400 --> 00:03:47,400 Speaker 1: and Ben together about how they reported their stories and 58 00:03:47,440 --> 00:03:50,320 Speaker 1: as that they share their perspective on why this story 59 00:03:50,440 --> 00:03:54,480 Speaker 1: matters to them. I start with Ryan French on how 60 00:03:54,520 --> 00:03:57,520 Speaker 1: he became aware of what Hayden Springer was going through 61 00:04:00,000 --> 00:04:03,240 Speaker 1: follower sent me a message and and I think it's 62 00:04:03,280 --> 00:04:07,760 Speaker 1: just a very delicate story, and stories like this, I 63 00:04:07,920 --> 00:04:11,400 Speaker 1: want to make sure I have the player's input, and 64 00:04:11,440 --> 00:04:14,440 Speaker 1: I put in uh, you know, I put it in 65 00:04:14,480 --> 00:04:17,720 Speaker 1: their words what they want out there. Um. And so 66 00:04:17,880 --> 00:04:19,520 Speaker 1: I talked to Haydon after I had heard from a 67 00:04:19,560 --> 00:04:22,440 Speaker 1: story and had heard the story from a follower who 68 00:04:22,520 --> 00:04:24,880 Speaker 1: was a family friend. He's like, you know, we're not 69 00:04:25,080 --> 00:04:28,200 Speaker 1: We're not quite ready there. That was right when Sage 70 00:04:28,279 --> 00:04:31,120 Speaker 1: was being born, and I think even before she was born, 71 00:04:31,120 --> 00:04:35,560 Speaker 1: I'm not sure. And then Emma has become kind of 72 00:04:35,600 --> 00:04:38,719 Speaker 1: an advocate of of babies with trying send me eighteen 73 00:04:38,760 --> 00:04:41,320 Speaker 1: has been outspoken about their life, and so I talked 74 00:04:41,360 --> 00:04:43,800 Speaker 1: to him again he wanted to share, but again it's 75 00:04:43,839 --> 00:04:47,120 Speaker 1: just a serious, heavy story that I wanted to do 76 00:04:47,240 --> 00:04:50,880 Speaker 1: justice too. And then um, yeah, we were in Las 77 00:04:51,000 --> 00:04:56,000 Speaker 1: Vegas and I saw him outside the clubhouse and um, 78 00:04:56,040 --> 00:04:59,719 Speaker 1: he had just Monday qualified, which is again amazing, and 79 00:05:00,040 --> 00:05:03,520 Speaker 1: him and I had message you know, multiple times leading 80 00:05:03,600 --> 00:05:06,600 Speaker 1: up to that, and we just set outside the clubhouse 81 00:05:06,640 --> 00:05:09,120 Speaker 1: and talked for ten or fifteen minutes about what his 82 00:05:09,200 --> 00:05:12,880 Speaker 1: life is in his story and and how amazing I 83 00:05:12,920 --> 00:05:16,200 Speaker 1: thought it wasn't I tell it if you wanted to 84 00:05:16,240 --> 00:05:20,240 Speaker 1: tell it? And so, um, well he agreed, and I 85 00:05:20,279 --> 00:05:23,320 Speaker 1: talked to Emma after that, and um, you know, I've 86 00:05:23,360 --> 00:05:26,400 Speaker 1: been connected with Hayden and Ema since then. It's just 87 00:05:27,560 --> 00:05:34,760 Speaker 1: it's it. It's the heaviest but best story, uh that 88 00:05:34,839 --> 00:05:36,920 Speaker 1: I want to you know, back to what Ben said, 89 00:05:37,000 --> 00:05:39,960 Speaker 1: this does not feel sorry for it. It's an appreciation 90 00:05:40,560 --> 00:05:45,080 Speaker 1: for what Emma does and what Hayden does on the 91 00:05:45,120 --> 00:05:48,520 Speaker 1: golf course. The first version of the story was written 92 00:05:48,680 --> 00:05:53,160 Speaker 1: before Springer had qualified for the US Open. It was 93 00:05:53,560 --> 00:05:57,000 Speaker 1: Gary in the fire pit queue and then by way 94 00:05:57,040 --> 00:05:59,760 Speaker 1: of the US Open qualifier at the Dallas Athletic Club, 95 00:06:00,200 --> 00:06:05,160 Speaker 1: by one shot, Springer was bound for Tory Pines. So 96 00:06:05,200 --> 00:06:09,039 Speaker 1: now what do we run the story right away? I 97 00:06:09,080 --> 00:06:11,520 Speaker 1: know Ryan and I were inclined to go that route. 98 00:06:11,800 --> 00:06:14,800 Speaker 1: Seemed to make sense. Just qualified for the US Open, 99 00:06:15,839 --> 00:06:22,200 Speaker 1: Ryan has written this crazy, amazing, inspirational, emotional feature. I said, 100 00:06:22,800 --> 00:06:26,200 Speaker 1: I think you update it and let's hits end. But 101 00:06:26,279 --> 00:06:29,360 Speaker 1: we opted to wait for Shipnock. To Chaiman, Alan suggested 102 00:06:29,720 --> 00:06:32,640 Speaker 1: that we wait all the way through and essentially build 103 00:06:32,680 --> 00:06:36,360 Speaker 1: our US Open coverage around the Springer story. His point 104 00:06:36,400 --> 00:06:38,440 Speaker 1: was that even if someone else would write or produce 105 00:06:38,520 --> 00:06:41,040 Speaker 1: a version of the story, that no one would have 106 00:06:41,120 --> 00:06:44,120 Speaker 1: the story Ryan was telling and Alan was right. We 107 00:06:44,240 --> 00:06:47,599 Speaker 1: all opted to wait. But while waiting, why not tell 108 00:06:47,640 --> 00:06:50,440 Speaker 1: it visually as well? Which is what I called Ben 109 00:06:50,520 --> 00:06:53,400 Speaker 1: van Hook, an Orlando based photographer who I used to 110 00:06:53,440 --> 00:06:56,880 Speaker 1: work with at both Sports Illustrated and Golf Digest. Van 111 00:06:56,920 --> 00:06:59,839 Speaker 1: Hook had made the transition into producing and shooting videos 112 00:07:00,000 --> 00:07:02,479 Speaker 1: a variety of clients, and although we used to play 113 00:07:02,520 --> 00:07:05,520 Speaker 1: Winner Park nine together, we hadn't really worked together in 114 00:07:05,560 --> 00:07:08,080 Speaker 1: eight years. I sent him the story and asked if 115 00:07:08,080 --> 00:07:10,000 Speaker 1: he and his team would be interested in a quick 116 00:07:10,000 --> 00:07:14,840 Speaker 1: tripped Dallas. They were obviously in. We were shocked when 117 00:07:14,840 --> 00:07:19,680 Speaker 1: we went there and and met them because like, you know, 118 00:07:19,760 --> 00:07:23,040 Speaker 1: I read I read the story and you know, super 119 00:07:23,080 --> 00:07:25,920 Speaker 1: touched by that. And then I had a FaceTime call 120 00:07:26,040 --> 00:07:29,320 Speaker 1: with them, and you know, her personality is just like 121 00:07:30,400 --> 00:07:33,800 Speaker 1: you know, it's just so explosive, and it's like she's 122 00:07:33,800 --> 00:07:36,960 Speaker 1: got this this aura about her, this personality, and I 123 00:07:37,040 --> 00:07:39,400 Speaker 1: was like, oh, this is great. You know, she's really 124 00:07:39,480 --> 00:07:43,920 Speaker 1: outgoing and it's very articulate, and it's very convicted, and 125 00:07:43,920 --> 00:07:46,600 Speaker 1: and then um, and then when we got there and 126 00:07:46,640 --> 00:07:49,760 Speaker 1: we met them, it was just like, I mean, it 127 00:07:49,840 --> 00:07:54,960 Speaker 1: was really overwhelming emotionally because they the family has got 128 00:07:55,040 --> 00:07:59,240 Speaker 1: this giant heart, you know, everybody in the family does, 129 00:07:59,320 --> 00:08:02,160 Speaker 1: and it's like, you know, a group effort to try 130 00:08:02,200 --> 00:08:05,640 Speaker 1: to make this machine work and um and then they 131 00:08:05,680 --> 00:08:08,760 Speaker 1: were just so open and you know, they really want 132 00:08:08,800 --> 00:08:12,320 Speaker 1: to tell their story for especially for other people going 133 00:08:12,360 --> 00:08:15,040 Speaker 1: through the similar kinds of things that they're doing, and 134 00:08:15,080 --> 00:08:19,440 Speaker 1: it's just very h very touching, you know, to to 135 00:08:19,440 --> 00:08:22,360 Speaker 1: to be there and to like witness it firsthand. I 136 00:08:22,400 --> 00:08:25,760 Speaker 1: told Matt Um when when we were interviewing Emma, like 137 00:08:26,120 --> 00:08:28,360 Speaker 1: the whole crew was crying, like we were all like 138 00:08:28,880 --> 00:08:33,559 Speaker 1: in tears because it was so touching. You know. Ryan 139 00:08:33,600 --> 00:08:36,160 Speaker 1: French and his wife, who's a nurse, also had a 140 00:08:36,160 --> 00:08:39,240 Speaker 1: serious health scare with their son Jack, which made Ryan 141 00:08:39,320 --> 00:08:41,960 Speaker 1: even more empathetic to what the Springers were going through. 142 00:08:42,559 --> 00:08:45,000 Speaker 1: I haven't they haven't gone through exactly that, but I 143 00:08:45,040 --> 00:08:50,640 Speaker 1: think when you have a child could potentially, you know, 144 00:08:50,840 --> 00:08:55,880 Speaker 1: die from something, and in our case a surgery. Like 145 00:08:56,000 --> 00:08:58,680 Speaker 1: you WRT to stories like this more, you you can 146 00:08:59,040 --> 00:09:02,520 Speaker 1: you can feel what are feeling. You can you you 147 00:09:02,600 --> 00:09:08,320 Speaker 1: know what that meeting with dr means you know what 148 00:09:08,320 --> 00:09:11,920 Speaker 1: what you don't know what tomorrow is? Uh, you know. 149 00:09:12,120 --> 00:09:15,760 Speaker 1: I think that's why I'm happy to tell this story 150 00:09:15,800 --> 00:09:18,319 Speaker 1: because yeah, I can relate to it on on some 151 00:09:18,320 --> 00:09:20,959 Speaker 1: some way. When Jack was in the hospital and and 152 00:09:21,120 --> 00:09:24,960 Speaker 1: gone through all this and was vomiting every night, I 153 00:09:25,040 --> 00:09:27,800 Speaker 1: could hardly function. I was running a group of restaurants 154 00:09:27,880 --> 00:09:31,840 Speaker 1: right like, I wasn't at my best and this guy 155 00:09:31,920 --> 00:09:34,240 Speaker 1: is doing I mean I can relate on that end 156 00:09:35,160 --> 00:09:37,520 Speaker 1: a's like I don't. It just gives me such an 157 00:09:37,520 --> 00:09:40,960 Speaker 1: appreciation for the level of Golfe's playing because you know, 158 00:09:41,080 --> 00:09:43,079 Speaker 1: we weren't sleeping, weren't doing those things, and that is 159 00:09:43,120 --> 00:09:46,160 Speaker 1: in a short term, not close to what these folks 160 00:09:46,160 --> 00:09:49,480 Speaker 1: are going through. And you know I wasn't at my 161 00:09:49,520 --> 00:09:52,320 Speaker 1: best or even close to my best. So it just 162 00:09:52,480 --> 00:09:57,080 Speaker 1: again just gives another level of appreciation for the golf 163 00:09:57,120 --> 00:10:00,920 Speaker 1: that he in the family structure, it lets him play 164 00:10:01,520 --> 00:10:04,040 Speaker 1: like that. We didn't have a long time to get 165 00:10:04,160 --> 00:10:07,080 Speaker 1: Ben to sync up with the Springers and their schedule 166 00:10:07,160 --> 00:10:10,240 Speaker 1: as they braced for whatever the US Open week would entail, 167 00:10:11,040 --> 00:10:14,240 Speaker 1: but they agreed to let us in their home. And 168 00:10:14,280 --> 00:10:17,680 Speaker 1: then the fear was what was the exact situation Ben 169 00:10:17,679 --> 00:10:21,719 Speaker 1: would be going into. The baby had survived the necessary 170 00:10:21,760 --> 00:10:25,200 Speaker 1: heart surgery at four months old, it was gaining weight 171 00:10:25,280 --> 00:10:28,559 Speaker 1: and strength, but it's still incredibly vulnerable to something like 172 00:10:28,800 --> 00:10:32,240 Speaker 1: the common cold, and it's definitely safe to say every 173 00:10:32,320 --> 00:10:37,480 Speaker 1: day four stage is literally a miracle. Originally, you know, 174 00:10:38,000 --> 00:10:40,520 Speaker 1: my thought as a filmmaker was like, Okay, this is 175 00:10:40,520 --> 00:10:47,240 Speaker 1: gonna be very fast cutting um chaotic situation, you know, 176 00:10:47,280 --> 00:10:50,480 Speaker 1: with you know, she works nights as a nurse, he's 177 00:10:50,520 --> 00:10:54,280 Speaker 1: gone all the time. The family, they're living with his parents. 178 00:10:54,559 --> 00:10:57,760 Speaker 1: That's the house he grew up man, which is like unbelievable. 179 00:10:57,840 --> 00:11:00,240 Speaker 1: You know, they're living there because they don't have the 180 00:11:00,360 --> 00:11:02,600 Speaker 1: choice right now. They need this help this family out. 181 00:11:02,880 --> 00:11:05,559 Speaker 1: And when she talks about the family and the friends 182 00:11:05,600 --> 00:11:07,640 Speaker 1: that have really stepped up to help, that's when she 183 00:11:07,640 --> 00:11:11,400 Speaker 1: gets the most emotional about about the story, and um, 184 00:11:12,040 --> 00:11:14,600 Speaker 1: it just it shows how like close it is to 185 00:11:14,679 --> 00:11:17,880 Speaker 1: her heart that all these people have rallied around them 186 00:11:17,880 --> 00:11:21,280 Speaker 1: to help help them, and um, and that was very 187 00:11:21,320 --> 00:11:26,400 Speaker 1: touching and but but but in my mind I was like, Okay, 188 00:11:26,440 --> 00:11:30,320 Speaker 1: this is gonna be like like total chaos, because you know, 189 00:11:30,360 --> 00:11:34,120 Speaker 1: it's like there's no you know, there's no schedule. Really, 190 00:11:34,320 --> 00:11:37,720 Speaker 1: the baby needs twenty four hour, seven day a week care, 191 00:11:38,000 --> 00:11:40,320 Speaker 1: I mean really in reality. And that's the reason that 192 00:11:40,360 --> 00:11:43,520 Speaker 1: you see them drag their mattress into the bedroom of 193 00:11:43,559 --> 00:11:45,960 Speaker 1: the baby and they sleep there when they're both home, 194 00:11:46,440 --> 00:11:48,960 Speaker 1: because it's a queen sized bed and the baby won't 195 00:11:48,960 --> 00:11:50,280 Speaker 1: fit in the bed with them, so they need to 196 00:11:50,280 --> 00:11:52,120 Speaker 1: be in the room with the baby all night. So 197 00:11:52,160 --> 00:11:55,760 Speaker 1: you can imagine that going on for eight months, and 198 00:11:55,840 --> 00:11:58,200 Speaker 1: the lack of sleep and all that. So in my mind, 199 00:11:58,200 --> 00:12:01,840 Speaker 1: I was thinking, Okay, it's gonna be very chaotic, but 200 00:12:02,200 --> 00:12:05,120 Speaker 1: in essence, when I got there, it was. It was 201 00:12:05,200 --> 00:12:08,760 Speaker 1: so elegant the way that they were living their lives. 202 00:12:08,800 --> 00:12:12,080 Speaker 1: And like I think because it's just driven by this 203 00:12:12,679 --> 00:12:17,440 Speaker 1: deep love that they have for Sage and and and 204 00:12:17,480 --> 00:12:20,640 Speaker 1: it's reflected in like everything that they do, like how 205 00:12:20,679 --> 00:12:23,760 Speaker 1: they care for her, how they treat each other. You know, 206 00:12:23,880 --> 00:12:27,080 Speaker 1: it's like you can see that in the daily life, 207 00:12:27,080 --> 00:12:29,320 Speaker 1: how they all pitch in. I mean, there was never 208 00:12:29,360 --> 00:12:35,840 Speaker 1: a you know, a stern moment or you know, everybody's tired, 209 00:12:36,320 --> 00:12:40,559 Speaker 1: so everybody's in the same boat. And but they but 210 00:12:40,679 --> 00:12:43,319 Speaker 1: they really make it work. I mean, it's I mean, 211 00:12:43,360 --> 00:12:47,720 Speaker 1: it's like you said, it's like the superhuman feet that's 212 00:12:47,760 --> 00:12:51,480 Speaker 1: going on with this family right now, because it's you know, 213 00:12:51,679 --> 00:12:53,240 Speaker 1: I mean, I don't I don't know if I could 214 00:12:53,240 --> 00:12:56,280 Speaker 1: do it, but they're they're certainly doing it. And I'm like, 215 00:12:56,440 --> 00:12:58,560 Speaker 1: I'm old enough to be their father. I mean, these 216 00:12:58,600 --> 00:13:03,000 Speaker 1: people are young, you know, years old of either they're 217 00:13:03,040 --> 00:13:06,800 Speaker 1: just getting started. It's like, it's incredible. I asked Ryan 218 00:13:06,840 --> 00:13:10,400 Speaker 1: about marveling at the totality of this story when I 219 00:13:10,400 --> 00:13:13,400 Speaker 1: wrote the article. Man, it made me really think, because 220 00:13:13,559 --> 00:13:15,920 Speaker 1: I mean, this is part of a lot of players stories, 221 00:13:16,000 --> 00:13:19,760 Speaker 1: is that that you know, they have to they have 222 00:13:19,880 --> 00:13:22,800 Speaker 1: to make a check to get to the next check, 223 00:13:22,840 --> 00:13:27,880 Speaker 1: to to grind and travel and all those kind of things. Um, 224 00:13:27,880 --> 00:13:30,319 Speaker 1: you know, it made me reflect on two things, and 225 00:13:30,480 --> 00:13:34,320 Speaker 1: of of Hayden's stories. One is that you know that 226 00:13:34,559 --> 00:13:38,600 Speaker 1: pro golf on this level is such a family sport, 227 00:13:39,120 --> 00:13:44,680 Speaker 1: right Uh. I mean, Emma is more important or important 228 00:13:45,080 --> 00:13:49,439 Speaker 1: to be a part of Hayden's uh playing career as 229 00:13:49,520 --> 00:13:52,320 Speaker 1: anything that he can go and leave that at home. 230 00:13:52,400 --> 00:13:54,880 Speaker 1: He's talked about it that she's a hero and you 231 00:13:54,920 --> 00:13:59,160 Speaker 1: know he can go and that. But I mean, Hayden 232 00:13:59,280 --> 00:14:02,160 Speaker 1: is a very accomplished golfer. I mean, he was an 233 00:14:02,200 --> 00:14:05,480 Speaker 1: All American at at TCU. He beat Victor Hoveland at 234 00:14:05,480 --> 00:14:08,640 Speaker 1: the at the Big Twelfth Championship. He's in the top 235 00:14:08,679 --> 00:14:11,040 Speaker 1: twenty of the All Pro Tour, which is a very 236 00:14:11,880 --> 00:14:18,000 Speaker 1: uh good developmental tour, mini tour. Uh. He's Monday qualified twice. 237 00:14:18,080 --> 00:14:20,280 Speaker 1: He just lost in a playoff the week before, and 238 00:14:20,320 --> 00:14:23,080 Speaker 1: now he's gotten through to the U s Open. I 239 00:14:23,080 --> 00:14:27,640 Speaker 1: am really but I'm astonished by the level of play 240 00:14:27,800 --> 00:14:30,800 Speaker 1: of anyone that can get to the US Open. It 241 00:14:30,920 --> 00:14:34,320 Speaker 1: is the next level. And Hayden is outside of his 242 00:14:34,440 --> 00:14:37,480 Speaker 1: home life, Hayden is in that group of people that 243 00:14:38,560 --> 00:14:41,880 Speaker 1: you're I mean, he's a very decorated players also, man, 244 00:14:41,920 --> 00:14:44,760 Speaker 1: as you know, there's plenty of All Americans who have 245 00:14:44,880 --> 00:14:47,760 Speaker 1: the resume that that Hayden has, that never played the 246 00:14:47,880 --> 00:14:50,640 Speaker 1: US Open and never have the accomplishment but that he's 247 00:14:50,680 --> 00:14:55,120 Speaker 1: had in his young career. And to think about he's 248 00:14:55,160 --> 00:14:59,480 Speaker 1: playing against players who are single, who have gym memberships, 249 00:14:59,480 --> 00:15:02,920 Speaker 1: who don't who sleep perfectly every night, who wear a 250 00:15:02,920 --> 00:15:07,800 Speaker 1: whoop band and talk about recovery, and uh. To to 251 00:15:07,960 --> 00:15:12,240 Speaker 1: think that he's competing at above a lot of players 252 00:15:13,680 --> 00:15:18,040 Speaker 1: when he's has the odds stacked against you. I mean 253 00:15:18,280 --> 00:15:20,240 Speaker 1: I was talking about that with my wife this morning, 254 00:15:20,240 --> 00:15:24,760 Speaker 1: Like the odds are stacked against every player out there. Uh. 255 00:15:24,800 --> 00:15:26,600 Speaker 1: I mean that's just the fact of the manners. Like 256 00:15:26,800 --> 00:15:30,320 Speaker 1: there's gonna be roughly five new people on the PGA 257 00:15:30,400 --> 00:15:34,520 Speaker 1: Tour this year next year one of twenty five of 258 00:15:34,680 --> 00:15:39,480 Speaker 1: thousands chasing it. And those are people that there's there's 259 00:15:39,520 --> 00:15:42,360 Speaker 1: players out there who have money, who have personal trainers 260 00:15:42,400 --> 00:15:44,360 Speaker 1: and all that kind of stuff. And to think that 261 00:15:44,400 --> 00:15:46,080 Speaker 1: he has to come home at three in the morning 262 00:15:46,960 --> 00:15:49,880 Speaker 1: there and care about it and and do those things, 263 00:15:49,920 --> 00:15:54,560 Speaker 1: just it's astonishing his level of play. Van hook on 264 00:15:54,720 --> 00:15:57,440 Speaker 1: how and why Hayden Springer is capable of the hyper 265 00:15:57,440 --> 00:16:00,640 Speaker 1: focus on golf in the midst of such extreme and 266 00:16:00,760 --> 00:16:04,520 Speaker 1: heart wrenching distraction. But we don't touch on in the 267 00:16:04,560 --> 00:16:09,680 Speaker 1: film is that that his father was in the Navy 268 00:16:09,760 --> 00:16:14,280 Speaker 1: and he was an F fourteen UH pilot in uh 269 00:16:14,320 --> 00:16:16,720 Speaker 1: in combat. I mean he you know, he the guy 270 00:16:16,800 --> 00:16:19,360 Speaker 1: landed on aircraft carriers at night. You know, it's like 271 00:16:19,640 --> 00:16:24,280 Speaker 1: really top level intense stuff. And he's, uh, you know, 272 00:16:24,280 --> 00:16:27,800 Speaker 1: his dad's a farm boy from Tennessee, and you grew 273 00:16:27,880 --> 00:16:29,720 Speaker 1: up on a dirt road, he told me. And all 274 00:16:29,720 --> 00:16:32,720 Speaker 1: of a sudden, he finds himself, you know, in the Navy, 275 00:16:32,800 --> 00:16:34,800 Speaker 1: and they and they even you know, he gets in 276 00:16:34,880 --> 00:16:37,080 Speaker 1: aviation and they teach him how to fly these jets. 277 00:16:37,520 --> 00:16:40,240 Speaker 1: So the one thing he said that they really drilled 278 00:16:40,280 --> 00:16:44,600 Speaker 1: into them in the military was this idea of compartmentalization 279 00:16:44,720 --> 00:16:47,200 Speaker 1: and whatever problems that you have in your life and 280 00:16:47,240 --> 00:16:49,680 Speaker 1: you have at home, you leave that behind when you 281 00:16:49,720 --> 00:16:52,120 Speaker 1: get in the cockpit of a jet like that, and 282 00:16:52,240 --> 00:16:55,440 Speaker 1: you have one mission and one purpose and that's what 283 00:16:55,480 --> 00:17:00,840 Speaker 1: you do. So it's super focused attention. And he said 284 00:17:00,880 --> 00:17:04,720 Speaker 1: that he um tried to instill that in Hayden growing 285 00:17:04,800 --> 00:17:07,040 Speaker 1: up from a little boy. And I thought that was 286 00:17:07,080 --> 00:17:12,880 Speaker 1: fascinating because that's exactly what's you know, that's what's happening 287 00:17:12,920 --> 00:17:16,760 Speaker 1: now because he has to have that. And I asked 288 00:17:16,800 --> 00:17:19,159 Speaker 1: Hayden about it, because you know, I mean over my 289 00:17:19,280 --> 00:17:21,480 Speaker 1: career and I've worked with you at a bunch of 290 00:17:21,520 --> 00:17:26,480 Speaker 1: different publications, Matt that I photographed, you know, almost everybody 291 00:17:26,480 --> 00:17:30,879 Speaker 1: who's anybody in professional golf, and and I'm fascinated with 292 00:17:31,200 --> 00:17:33,879 Speaker 1: how mental of a game it is, you know, on 293 00:17:34,000 --> 00:17:36,600 Speaker 1: any given day, any of these guys could win. I mean, 294 00:17:37,119 --> 00:17:40,800 Speaker 1: you have to be so sharp and tough mentally to 295 00:17:41,000 --> 00:17:45,959 Speaker 1: win at that level. And so they I think they 296 00:17:46,000 --> 00:17:48,880 Speaker 1: all have some degree of this, But Hayden is like, 297 00:17:48,920 --> 00:17:51,440 Speaker 1: you know he I think that's the way he grew 298 00:17:51,480 --> 00:17:53,560 Speaker 1: up because of his dad, and I think that's the 299 00:17:53,680 --> 00:17:57,080 Speaker 1: reason that he's performing at this level right now. Is 300 00:17:57,160 --> 00:18:00,320 Speaker 1: Dad say, you know, it's he's even amazed that he's 301 00:18:00,320 --> 00:18:02,840 Speaker 1: playing the best golf of his life in the middle 302 00:18:02,920 --> 00:18:06,880 Speaker 1: of this storm of you know, emotion and everything that's 303 00:18:06,920 --> 00:18:09,200 Speaker 1: going on at home. And and then you know, when 304 00:18:09,200 --> 00:18:12,199 Speaker 1: you see it, it's like you just can't you know, 305 00:18:12,280 --> 00:18:15,600 Speaker 1: you can't believe somebody could operate at that level. Do 306 00:18:15,640 --> 00:18:20,080 Speaker 1: you have high hopes for Hayden Springer the golfer? Yeah, 307 00:18:20,240 --> 00:18:23,120 Speaker 1: I mean I think of what he's gone through and 308 00:18:23,160 --> 00:18:25,880 Speaker 1: to accomplish the things he's done. I mean, but let's 309 00:18:25,920 --> 00:18:28,160 Speaker 1: just take his family out of it. I mean, he's 310 00:18:28,200 --> 00:18:31,400 Speaker 1: a very accomplished golfer. He's Monday qualified, which is, as 311 00:18:31,400 --> 00:18:34,359 Speaker 1: we know, difficult to do. He's got to the US Open, 312 00:18:34,600 --> 00:18:38,920 Speaker 1: he's top twenty. I mean, he's beaten Victor Houghland in college. Uh. Yeah, 313 00:18:39,080 --> 00:18:42,840 Speaker 1: he can be out there of course, as the people 314 00:18:42,840 --> 00:18:45,720 Speaker 1: who have filed the account now that it's really hard 315 00:18:45,760 --> 00:18:49,560 Speaker 1: to do, and now adding what he has to deal 316 00:18:49,640 --> 00:18:51,119 Speaker 1: with and his family have to deal with on a 317 00:18:51,240 --> 00:18:54,399 Speaker 1: on a daily basis. But if someone came to me 318 00:18:54,440 --> 00:18:57,200 Speaker 1: and said, hey, name you know the top ten players 319 00:18:57,440 --> 00:19:01,120 Speaker 1: that don't have status right now that you think are 320 00:19:01,200 --> 00:19:06,119 Speaker 1: going to make it, Hayden would be in there. Um. 321 00:19:06,200 --> 00:19:10,080 Speaker 1: So all of this shows how amazingly gifted the golf 322 00:19:10,119 --> 00:19:13,159 Speaker 1: course because he has the odds stacked against him. So 323 00:19:13,640 --> 00:19:17,080 Speaker 1: if he makes the cut at the US Open, there's 324 00:19:17,080 --> 00:19:19,040 Speaker 1: gonna be a whole, a whole bunch of people cheering 325 00:19:19,040 --> 00:19:22,200 Speaker 1: for him, having just been with him. I asked Ben 326 00:19:22,240 --> 00:19:25,160 Speaker 1: what he knew about the specifics of the Springers US 327 00:19:25,200 --> 00:19:28,560 Speaker 1: Open week. You know, his dad has caddied for him 328 00:19:28,600 --> 00:19:31,120 Speaker 1: more than anybody, and I think he was in one 329 00:19:31,160 --> 00:19:35,320 Speaker 1: PGA Tour event and he actually hired a caddy and 330 00:19:35,359 --> 00:19:37,320 Speaker 1: it wasn't a great experience for him. I think he 331 00:19:37,720 --> 00:19:40,080 Speaker 1: was like, you know what, why do I need? You know, 332 00:19:40,240 --> 00:19:44,199 Speaker 1: my dad knows my game better than anybody. Um, you know, 333 00:19:44,320 --> 00:19:47,320 Speaker 1: even though neither one of them been Torrey Pines, his 334 00:19:47,400 --> 00:19:49,520 Speaker 1: dad's gonna be caddying for him. At the US Open 335 00:19:50,000 --> 00:19:52,280 Speaker 1: and and his dad had the conversation with him and said, look, 336 00:19:52,520 --> 00:19:54,800 Speaker 1: this is business. You know. If you want to hire 337 00:19:54,840 --> 00:19:58,120 Speaker 1: somebody or you want somebody that's that's you know, that's 338 00:19:58,160 --> 00:20:00,920 Speaker 1: been there before, that knows the lay out, that knows 339 00:20:01,040 --> 00:20:03,560 Speaker 1: you know, the yard. He said, I won't be offended 340 00:20:03,600 --> 00:20:06,080 Speaker 1: at all. Take it. Don't make a decision right now, 341 00:20:06,119 --> 00:20:08,159 Speaker 1: take a day and talk about you know, think about it. 342 00:20:08,760 --> 00:20:11,280 Speaker 1: And he uh, he came back the next day and said, 343 00:20:11,440 --> 00:20:13,359 Speaker 1: you don't want you. I want you on the bag. 344 00:20:13,480 --> 00:20:17,639 Speaker 1: So that uh, that's one thing to his family affair. 345 00:20:17,960 --> 00:20:22,280 Speaker 1: And then before we left Dallas, um and just in 346 00:20:22,400 --> 00:20:24,600 Speaker 1: casual conversation it didn't even come up in the film, 347 00:20:24,640 --> 00:20:28,960 Speaker 1: but casual conversation, Emma said to me that depending on 348 00:20:30,440 --> 00:20:34,720 Speaker 1: stages um prognosis for I think she had a little 349 00:20:34,760 --> 00:20:37,840 Speaker 1: bit of a low oxygen level the baby did, and 350 00:20:37,920 --> 00:20:39,760 Speaker 1: so she's gonna go back to the doctor I think 351 00:20:39,800 --> 00:20:42,959 Speaker 1: on Monday maybe and and get checked out. And if 352 00:20:43,000 --> 00:20:46,040 Speaker 1: everything checks out and they give her the green flag 353 00:20:46,080 --> 00:20:50,680 Speaker 1: to travel, well, Uh. Emma and Sage already have tickets 354 00:20:51,040 --> 00:20:53,600 Speaker 1: to fly to San Diego to be there with him 355 00:20:53,640 --> 00:20:56,280 Speaker 1: and watch him. And she said, I know that It's 356 00:20:56,400 --> 00:20:58,399 Speaker 1: like a lot of people would look at it and 357 00:20:58,440 --> 00:21:01,000 Speaker 1: say like, oh, you've got this, you know this baby 358 00:21:01,240 --> 00:21:03,800 Speaker 1: that special needs and it's really hard to travel and 359 00:21:03,800 --> 00:21:06,520 Speaker 1: you probably shouldn't travel with them. And her attitude is like, 360 00:21:06,600 --> 00:21:09,200 Speaker 1: this is the reason that they gave her this chance 361 00:21:09,240 --> 00:21:11,879 Speaker 1: at life, because they want her to live her life. 362 00:21:12,320 --> 00:21:15,520 Speaker 1: And part of that is being there to see her 363 00:21:15,560 --> 00:21:17,840 Speaker 1: dad play in the U S Open. So I mean 364 00:21:17,920 --> 00:21:22,520 Speaker 1: that's like, that's like pretty amazing that you know, you know, 365 00:21:23,000 --> 00:21:26,800 Speaker 1: fingers crossed, you know she's gonna be there, and I 366 00:21:26,840 --> 00:21:30,679 Speaker 1: mean that's you know, part of the amazing story is 367 00:21:30,720 --> 00:21:34,560 Speaker 1: like to watch him, you know, compete the first two 368 00:21:34,640 --> 00:21:37,639 Speaker 1: days trying to make the cut. Ryan. I mean, you know, 369 00:21:39,240 --> 00:21:43,560 Speaker 1: if if if you're not rooting for Hayden Springer, for 370 00:21:43,800 --> 00:21:48,400 Speaker 1: Sage Springer, if you're not in awe of Emma Springer 371 00:21:49,320 --> 00:21:54,560 Speaker 1: and all that's happening, that inner circle and that force 372 00:21:55,400 --> 00:22:01,040 Speaker 1: that's bound for Tory Pines, if you're not in that camp, uh, 373 00:22:01,200 --> 00:22:05,119 Speaker 1: you're no friend of mine. Yeah. I mean, you know, 374 00:22:05,320 --> 00:22:08,440 Speaker 1: I always I think that golf is a family, a 375 00:22:08,600 --> 00:22:12,720 Speaker 1: fair mat but there's nothing, there's no story that I 376 00:22:12,760 --> 00:22:17,520 Speaker 1: know about there that's that's likeness and uh, and it's 377 00:22:17,560 --> 00:22:20,719 Speaker 1: a true family affair. And I mean I forgot that 378 00:22:20,760 --> 00:22:24,199 Speaker 1: it's Father's Day coming up Sunday with his dad on 379 00:22:24,240 --> 00:22:27,119 Speaker 1: the bag. I mean it is if he's able to 380 00:22:27,160 --> 00:22:32,040 Speaker 1: make the cut, I'm not sure they're They're definitely shouldn't 381 00:22:32,080 --> 00:22:35,199 Speaker 1: be a dry eye as they walk up eighteen. I 382 00:22:35,240 --> 00:22:39,600 Speaker 1: can't thank you enough for doing what you did to 383 00:22:40,600 --> 00:22:43,320 Speaker 1: write the story, and it moved all of us immediately, 384 00:22:43,640 --> 00:22:48,240 Speaker 1: you know when we first read it, and then obviously 385 00:22:48,320 --> 00:22:52,160 Speaker 1: passing the baton to Ben and teen to go do 386 00:22:52,280 --> 00:22:56,639 Speaker 1: their version of the story. Um, this is yeah. I 387 00:22:58,119 --> 00:23:02,399 Speaker 1: sent Hayden and hay and then um and my text 388 00:23:02,400 --> 00:23:06,359 Speaker 1: to Night, you know, and I said, thanks for trusting 389 00:23:06,520 --> 00:23:11,600 Speaker 1: us to tell your story. Uh, you know, it's uh 390 00:23:13,840 --> 00:23:17,679 Speaker 1: a story that needs to be told, and I'm happy 391 00:23:17,680 --> 00:23:24,120 Speaker 1: they trusted us to do it. Mhm. Did she respond back, Yeah, 392 00:23:24,680 --> 00:23:27,280 Speaker 1: but uh, yeah, thank you. We can't we can't wait 393 00:23:27,320 --> 00:23:33,200 Speaker 1: to see it so um and then I've been lucky 394 00:23:33,280 --> 00:23:36,119 Speaker 1: enough to tell a lot of all stories, but nothing 395 00:23:36,160 --> 00:23:39,480 Speaker 1: has been left before. What do you think when you 396 00:23:39,520 --> 00:23:44,919 Speaker 1: saw Ben's story? Yeah, I mean my wife and I 397 00:23:45,560 --> 00:23:49,000 Speaker 1: uh yeah, I sent it to my wife and we 398 00:23:49,119 --> 00:23:55,440 Speaker 1: grad together it brings up but at the beginning, you know, um, 399 00:23:55,640 --> 00:24:01,000 Speaker 1: never want to face your own child's mortality. Uh, I 400 00:24:01,119 --> 00:24:05,760 Speaker 1: just appreciate what's I go through with. It's just powerful, 401 00:24:06,440 --> 00:24:11,800 Speaker 1: it really is. Ben, what's your what's your biggest takeaway 402 00:24:11,840 --> 00:24:15,359 Speaker 1: from just being a part of the Springers lives for 403 00:24:15,400 --> 00:24:18,840 Speaker 1: those few days looking back at the relationship that I've 404 00:24:18,880 --> 00:24:22,120 Speaker 1: had with you over the last what have we known 405 00:24:22,119 --> 00:24:25,439 Speaker 1: each other twenty five years? Probably work together, and this 406 00:24:25,600 --> 00:24:29,080 Speaker 1: is like the kind of like culmination or really the 407 00:24:29,160 --> 00:24:32,959 Speaker 1: start of a new relationship of working with you guys, 408 00:24:33,000 --> 00:24:37,240 Speaker 1: and and and and telling these kinds of stories because um, 409 00:24:37,280 --> 00:24:40,280 Speaker 1: you know, at the stage of my career and and 410 00:24:40,320 --> 00:24:43,000 Speaker 1: also Henry too as well. It's like we're you know, 411 00:24:43,560 --> 00:24:46,639 Speaker 1: the opportunity that you've given us to tell this story 412 00:24:47,000 --> 00:24:51,320 Speaker 1: and the fact that the family was so you know, giving, 413 00:24:51,960 --> 00:24:54,800 Speaker 1: and it's just so beautiful that like, you know, I 414 00:24:54,880 --> 00:24:57,320 Speaker 1: just feel very blessed to like to be a part 415 00:24:57,359 --> 00:25:00,480 Speaker 1: of it. You know, I'm just feel very lucky, you 416 00:25:00,520 --> 00:25:03,280 Speaker 1: know that life led me in that direction that I 417 00:25:03,320 --> 00:25:08,159 Speaker 1: can you know, do this kind of work and and 418 00:25:08,280 --> 00:25:11,080 Speaker 1: there you know, and I'm like running. I've told a 419 00:25:11,119 --> 00:25:14,400 Speaker 1: lot of stories, told a lot of golf stories and 420 00:25:14,520 --> 00:25:16,640 Speaker 1: uh and and you know, shot a lot of film 421 00:25:16,720 --> 00:25:19,439 Speaker 1: over the years, but this one, this is special. This 422 00:25:19,520 --> 00:25:25,639 Speaker 1: is different. This is very powerful um testament to like 423 00:25:26,920 --> 00:25:32,440 Speaker 1: perseverance and love and family. And it's very touching. And 424 00:25:32,600 --> 00:25:35,760 Speaker 1: we were, I mean, Adam and I sitting in the 425 00:25:35,840 --> 00:25:40,040 Speaker 1: edit bay editing it and we're like crying while we're 426 00:25:40,040 --> 00:25:42,439 Speaker 1: while we're editing. I mean, you know, usually we're not 427 00:25:42,520 --> 00:25:45,960 Speaker 1: that close. A little bit more objective as a journalist, 428 00:25:46,000 --> 00:25:48,760 Speaker 1: you know, you're a little more objective, but you're you 429 00:25:48,840 --> 00:25:53,160 Speaker 1: cannot help but be affected by this, like when you see, 430 00:25:53,600 --> 00:25:56,600 Speaker 1: you know, what this family is going through. So yeah, 431 00:25:56,600 --> 00:25:59,000 Speaker 1: it's very it's a privilege, privilege to tell the story 432 00:26:00,040 --> 00:26:04,000 Speaker 1: on Ryan and Ben both said it, it's truly a 433 00:26:04,040 --> 00:26:07,200 Speaker 1: privilege to share the Springer story. I can't wait to 434 00:26:07,320 --> 00:26:11,920 Speaker 1: root for them, not only this week but forever, totally 435 00:26:12,359 --> 00:26:16,200 Speaker 1: on team Springer. And before I get to one final 436 00:26:16,240 --> 00:26:19,200 Speaker 1: recap of the five days Ben van Hook spent with 437 00:26:19,280 --> 00:26:22,280 Speaker 1: the family before Tory pines, I just want to also 438 00:26:22,320 --> 00:26:25,159 Speaker 1: thank the team at part points the new app that 439 00:26:25,200 --> 00:26:27,399 Speaker 1: allows you to change the way the game is scored, 440 00:26:28,359 --> 00:26:34,800 Speaker 1: Thanks Stableford. But even better, certainly more interesting, especially for kids, families, beginners, 441 00:26:34,800 --> 00:26:38,240 Speaker 1: and buddy strips. Download the app now and go make 442 00:26:38,280 --> 00:26:42,040 Speaker 1: part right. We end this with Ben, who shares more 443 00:26:42,119 --> 00:26:45,439 Speaker 1: details about his full immersion into the life of the 444 00:26:45,480 --> 00:26:50,000 Speaker 1: Springer family, a snapshot of their selfless love and exhausted 445 00:26:50,200 --> 00:26:55,080 Speaker 1: dedication to their daughter and their dreams. We just decided 446 00:26:55,119 --> 00:26:58,040 Speaker 1: to do like a really small crew. Henry my DP, 447 00:26:58,240 --> 00:27:00,919 Speaker 1: who have collaborated with three years. He happened to be 448 00:27:00,960 --> 00:27:03,560 Speaker 1: in Seattle at the time, and he flew in, and 449 00:27:03,600 --> 00:27:06,280 Speaker 1: then I flew to Dallas and then um, I brought 450 00:27:06,280 --> 00:27:09,879 Speaker 1: one assistant with me, another camera operator and also a 451 00:27:09,960 --> 00:27:12,040 Speaker 1: utility guy, and then we just hired a sound guy 452 00:27:12,080 --> 00:27:14,000 Speaker 1: in Dallas and that was it. There was just four 453 00:27:14,040 --> 00:27:17,720 Speaker 1: of us, and so it's very small, very intimate, and 454 00:27:17,920 --> 00:27:21,560 Speaker 1: um you know, minimal lighting. I mean, you know, we 455 00:27:21,640 --> 00:27:24,439 Speaker 1: just went into their home and like you know, she 456 00:27:24,680 --> 00:27:26,480 Speaker 1: opened the doors for us and we could do whatever 457 00:27:26,520 --> 00:27:29,000 Speaker 1: we want. So we basically the reason I went in 458 00:27:29,080 --> 00:27:33,240 Speaker 1: a day early was we went in on a trying 459 00:27:33,280 --> 00:27:35,960 Speaker 1: to think now so heyes, kind of, uh, I think 460 00:27:35,960 --> 00:27:39,760 Speaker 1: we went in on a Wednesday, you know Wednesday. We 461 00:27:39,840 --> 00:27:44,080 Speaker 1: got there on Wednesday, because that was while we were there, 462 00:27:44,119 --> 00:27:47,399 Speaker 1: that window that was the last overnight she was going 463 00:27:47,440 --> 00:27:49,879 Speaker 1: to work at the hospital, and I thought that was 464 00:27:49,880 --> 00:27:52,040 Speaker 1: a really important part of the story, and we wanted 465 00:27:52,080 --> 00:27:54,840 Speaker 1: to go to work with her because, I mean, we 466 00:27:54,840 --> 00:27:56,879 Speaker 1: didn't say this in the film either, but she works 467 00:27:56,880 --> 00:28:00,000 Speaker 1: at twelve hour shift from seven pm to seven am. 468 00:28:00,119 --> 00:28:02,320 Speaker 1: But what she didn't say is that she has a 469 00:28:02,359 --> 00:28:06,080 Speaker 1: one hour commute each way to Fort Worth to the hospital. 470 00:28:06,680 --> 00:28:10,720 Speaker 1: So she's like, you know, I mean, she she the 471 00:28:10,800 --> 00:28:13,520 Speaker 1: baby is still on dreast milk and she has no 472 00:28:13,640 --> 00:28:17,960 Speaker 1: time for you know, for Harley anything. So she's driving 473 00:28:18,000 --> 00:28:20,399 Speaker 1: on the interstate and she has to pump you know, 474 00:28:20,560 --> 00:28:23,600 Speaker 1: breast milk while she's in the car driving by ourselves. 475 00:28:23,760 --> 00:28:25,639 Speaker 1: That's the kind of life they're living. And it's like, 476 00:28:26,080 --> 00:28:28,760 Speaker 1: you know, I mean, he can't even imagine. And she 477 00:28:28,880 --> 00:28:31,239 Speaker 1: goes to the hospital and she has to care for 478 00:28:31,280 --> 00:28:34,600 Speaker 1: these patients like all night long, and then she comes 479 00:28:34,640 --> 00:28:36,679 Speaker 1: back home, and she said, basically a nursing home to 480 00:28:36,960 --> 00:28:39,400 Speaker 1: twenty four hours a day. So I felt it was 481 00:28:39,520 --> 00:28:42,240 Speaker 1: really important to get that, and so Henry and I 482 00:28:42,280 --> 00:28:44,959 Speaker 1: went in a day early and we went with her 483 00:28:45,000 --> 00:28:46,960 Speaker 1: to the hospital and when we came back, and then 484 00:28:47,000 --> 00:28:49,440 Speaker 1: the next day we met her over at the house. 485 00:28:49,480 --> 00:28:52,160 Speaker 1: I think maybe she slept two hours and then she 486 00:28:52,880 --> 00:28:57,160 Speaker 1: um she went to got us permission to shoot a 487 00:28:57,240 --> 00:29:00,160 Speaker 1: therapy session with Sage that she takes her and so 488 00:29:00,160 --> 00:29:03,280 Speaker 1: a week to this uh kind of an occupational therapy 489 00:29:03,520 --> 00:29:06,320 Speaker 1: UM session, And so we went in there and shot that, 490 00:29:06,400 --> 00:29:09,080 Speaker 1: which was really nice to get that because the next 491 00:29:09,120 --> 00:29:11,320 Speaker 1: day they had a doctor's appointment, but because of COVID, 492 00:29:11,600 --> 00:29:15,360 Speaker 1: we couldn't go into any hospital, so we UM we 493 00:29:15,400 --> 00:29:18,600 Speaker 1: went with her to the therapy session, we came back home, 494 00:29:18,840 --> 00:29:21,040 Speaker 1: spent a little more time with her there, and then 495 00:29:21,360 --> 00:29:24,920 Speaker 1: Thursday night, Hayden was flying in late from Savannah. He 496 00:29:24,960 --> 00:29:27,640 Speaker 1: had just played out on the East coast somewhere, and 497 00:29:27,880 --> 00:29:31,640 Speaker 1: he flew in late, got in around nine pm, and 498 00:29:31,680 --> 00:29:34,720 Speaker 1: we shot him at the airport and then we Henry 499 00:29:34,760 --> 00:29:36,760 Speaker 1: jumped in the car with him and he drove home 500 00:29:36,760 --> 00:29:39,600 Speaker 1: with him, and then we went home with them that 501 00:29:39,760 --> 00:29:42,280 Speaker 1: night and then got up early the next morning, went 502 00:29:42,320 --> 00:29:45,720 Speaker 1: over and basically spent all day Friday with them, and 503 00:29:45,880 --> 00:29:49,480 Speaker 1: you know, we did you know, we did everything that 504 00:29:49,640 --> 00:29:51,640 Speaker 1: day with Hayden because that was the only day that 505 00:29:51,680 --> 00:29:55,320 Speaker 1: he was going to be there. And one really touching 506 00:29:55,360 --> 00:29:57,840 Speaker 1: thing that happened was at the end of the day, 507 00:29:57,880 --> 00:30:01,760 Speaker 1: we shot this scene where they're cooking spaghetti you know, 508 00:30:01,840 --> 00:30:04,080 Speaker 1: for the family for a family dinner, which is typical 509 00:30:04,120 --> 00:30:05,760 Speaker 1: for what they do if they don't get something out, 510 00:30:05,920 --> 00:30:08,320 Speaker 1: especially if all of them are there, and they put 511 00:30:08,440 --> 00:30:11,840 Speaker 1: stage on the dining room table, you know, well they 512 00:30:11,840 --> 00:30:16,160 Speaker 1: eat dinner because she's right there with them, and um 513 00:30:16,240 --> 00:30:19,560 Speaker 1: and then Emma and Jennifer, her mother in law, you know, 514 00:30:19,640 --> 00:30:22,200 Speaker 1: said to me, she goes, hey, she goes, we're cooking, 515 00:30:22,200 --> 00:30:24,760 Speaker 1: and she goes, you know, I insist that you and 516 00:30:24,800 --> 00:30:27,719 Speaker 1: your crew, you know, eat dinner with us. And I 517 00:30:27,760 --> 00:30:30,800 Speaker 1: thought that was like, you know, everything you're dealing with 518 00:30:30,840 --> 00:30:33,239 Speaker 1: and you're gonna like cook for the crew. It's like, 519 00:30:33,720 --> 00:30:36,440 Speaker 1: you know, okay, So after they said the prayer and 520 00:30:36,440 --> 00:30:37,680 Speaker 1: we shot a little bit of that, you know, we 521 00:30:37,760 --> 00:30:39,720 Speaker 1: put the camera down and we pulled up a chair 522 00:30:39,760 --> 00:30:42,440 Speaker 1: around the table and we we broke bread with the family, 523 00:30:42,520 --> 00:30:45,280 Speaker 1: and you know, it's this really beautiful moment. You know, 524 00:30:45,480 --> 00:30:49,840 Speaker 1: It's like and they were just so giving, you know, 525 00:30:50,080 --> 00:30:52,360 Speaker 1: and like you know, worrying about what we're gonna eat, 526 00:30:52,520 --> 00:30:54,600 Speaker 1: and you know, where we were staying and all those 527 00:30:54,680 --> 00:30:57,000 Speaker 1: kinds of things, and and so then the next day, 528 00:30:57,680 --> 00:30:59,760 Speaker 1: Hayden was supposed to flower early in the morning, so 529 00:30:59,800 --> 00:31:01,840 Speaker 1: we said, okay, we'll come over to the house and 530 00:31:02,000 --> 00:31:03,760 Speaker 1: we want to shoot a few odds and ends that 531 00:31:03,800 --> 00:31:07,200 Speaker 1: we didn't get. And this was on Saturday morning, and 532 00:31:07,280 --> 00:31:09,960 Speaker 1: we went over and Hayden was there, and I was like, 533 00:31:10,000 --> 00:31:12,000 Speaker 1: what are you doing here? And he said, well, I 534 00:31:12,080 --> 00:31:14,800 Speaker 1: drove to the airport, couldn't find a place to park, 535 00:31:14,840 --> 00:31:17,560 Speaker 1: so I missed my flight. That's how packed the parking 536 00:31:17,640 --> 00:31:20,760 Speaker 1: rodgers were. So he missed his flight, drove back home, 537 00:31:21,040 --> 00:31:23,320 Speaker 1: and he's going to take an afternoon flight out. So 538 00:31:23,440 --> 00:31:26,080 Speaker 1: instead of hanging out there, he comes back home to 539 00:31:26,120 --> 00:31:28,480 Speaker 1: be with his family and be with his daughter. And 540 00:31:28,520 --> 00:31:30,160 Speaker 1: so we shoot a little bit more with him there 541 00:31:30,520 --> 00:31:33,560 Speaker 1: and then and then he takes off and then we 542 00:31:33,560 --> 00:31:35,560 Speaker 1: we fled back home on Sunday. We said, it was like, 543 00:31:35,920 --> 00:31:38,520 Speaker 1: you know, I mean, basically they let us move in 544 00:31:38,560 --> 00:31:41,280 Speaker 1: with him in a way, you know, but it shows 545 00:31:41,360 --> 00:31:43,560 Speaker 1: and that in the footage that we got and the 546 00:31:43,600 --> 00:31:47,440 Speaker 1: story that they told us, because you know, it was 547 00:31:47,680 --> 00:31:51,440 Speaker 1: very um, you know, it's just very intimate and and 548 00:31:51,520 --> 00:31:55,560 Speaker 1: she's just like so giving with the story that you know, 549 00:31:55,600 --> 00:31:56,680 Speaker 1: I just feel like it was a gift.