1 00:00:04,760 --> 00:00:07,320 Speaker 1: The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 2 00:00:07,360 --> 00:00:17,200 Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. This is the Players 3 00:00:17,280 --> 00:00:22,439 Speaker 1: Lounge broadcasting line from Dallas Cowboys World headquarters at the Star. 4 00:00:23,040 --> 00:00:28,120 Speaker 1: Now your hosts Barry Church, Danny McCray and New. He scrugs, 5 00:00:32,240 --> 00:00:34,960 Speaker 1: all right, baby, it's Friday. That means it's time for 6 00:00:35,080 --> 00:00:38,919 Speaker 1: the Players Lounge, and we have got content and topics 7 00:00:38,960 --> 00:00:41,400 Speaker 1: to speak of. I'm New, he scugs, longtime Cowboys reporter, 8 00:00:41,560 --> 00:00:45,120 Speaker 1: joined by Barry Church. He's the player of the players louge. 9 00:00:45,120 --> 00:00:48,280 Speaker 1: Our boy, Danny mccraige, still having the time. The number 10 00:00:48,280 --> 00:00:50,720 Speaker 1: forty two, Bury Church here in the building. Church, how 11 00:00:50,720 --> 00:00:55,360 Speaker 1: are you doing? O man? Good many They put it right, man, 12 00:00:55,440 --> 00:00:57,960 Speaker 1: the real forty two. All right, I want to hear 13 00:00:58,000 --> 00:01:00,520 Speaker 1: all this stuff about, you know, forty two going here, 14 00:01:00,600 --> 00:01:03,880 Speaker 1: forty two going there? The real forty two be Church, man. 15 00:01:04,200 --> 00:01:06,520 Speaker 1: We here, we here on the Player's Lounge. Man, where 16 00:01:06,560 --> 00:01:09,199 Speaker 1: else would you rather be? It's Friday, it's a great 17 00:01:09,280 --> 00:01:12,160 Speaker 1: day outside. It might even hit the links a little 18 00:01:12,160 --> 00:01:14,080 Speaker 1: bit later, so it's a good day. It's a good day, 19 00:01:15,080 --> 00:01:16,880 Speaker 1: hey man. I hope that pollen doesn't get te out 20 00:01:16,920 --> 00:01:20,120 Speaker 1: there trying to play that golf man. I mean, that's man. 21 00:01:20,400 --> 00:01:23,160 Speaker 1: You ain't wicked. It's wicked out there, man, so you 22 00:01:23,160 --> 00:01:26,720 Speaker 1: gotta get some. It might be it might be the 23 00:01:26,840 --> 00:01:29,600 Speaker 1: worst it's business. I've been in Texas, been here about 24 00:01:29,680 --> 00:01:31,920 Speaker 1: eleven years now, and this is the worst. Man, this 25 00:01:32,000 --> 00:01:33,560 Speaker 1: is the worst it's been in a long time for me. 26 00:01:34,319 --> 00:01:36,000 Speaker 1: It's a challenge, man, It's a challenge for a lot 27 00:01:36,000 --> 00:01:37,760 Speaker 1: of people. And it's only gonna get worse. It's the 28 00:01:37,760 --> 00:01:40,720 Speaker 1: only gonna get worse here, all right, lots of topics 29 00:01:40,760 --> 00:01:45,480 Speaker 1: to get to. We'll talk about why fans are not 30 00:01:45,640 --> 00:01:51,800 Speaker 1: excited about the possibility of drafting Patrick's utank Patrick's Rutan 31 00:01:51,880 --> 00:01:54,480 Speaker 1: at ten could be there, but a lot of people 32 00:01:54,440 --> 00:01:58,560 Speaker 1: aren't into what. In my opinion, Barry, people have been 33 00:01:58,600 --> 00:02:04,480 Speaker 1: trained by the Hall of Fame owner to love and 34 00:02:04,680 --> 00:02:09,920 Speaker 1: concentrate on offense at all times. That's a problem in 35 00:02:10,000 --> 00:02:12,959 Speaker 1: my opinion. I go, I go back to Super Bowl 36 00:02:13,040 --> 00:02:15,200 Speaker 1: twenty seven when they had the triplets, okay, and the 37 00:02:15,240 --> 00:02:19,040 Speaker 1: triplets being quarterback Troy Aikman, wide receiver Michael We're gonna 38 00:02:19,120 --> 00:02:21,239 Speaker 1: running back Emmy Smith and those guys were fantastic and 39 00:02:21,320 --> 00:02:23,480 Speaker 1: Jay Nova checks the tighten and fantastic and the offensive 40 00:02:23,480 --> 00:02:26,280 Speaker 1: line was fantastic. But people forget the Dallas Cowboys had 41 00:02:26,280 --> 00:02:28,760 Speaker 1: the number one defense in the National Football League. Okay, 42 00:02:28,800 --> 00:02:31,680 Speaker 1: with the number one defense, the Cowboys have won five 43 00:02:31,720 --> 00:02:34,720 Speaker 1: Super Bowls in their history and they have had a 44 00:02:35,040 --> 00:02:38,560 Speaker 1: dog gune good defense for every single one of them. 45 00:02:38,800 --> 00:02:41,280 Speaker 1: First Super Bowl the Cowboys ever won twenty four to 46 00:02:41,400 --> 00:02:44,200 Speaker 1: three over the Miami Dolphins, who ended up the next 47 00:02:44,240 --> 00:02:46,240 Speaker 1: season have an undefeated year, and then the next season 48 00:02:46,240 --> 00:02:47,799 Speaker 1: after that one a Super Bowl and they held them 49 00:02:47,800 --> 00:02:51,440 Speaker 1: without a touchdown. The Cowboys Super Bowl twelve team the 50 00:02:51,520 --> 00:02:56,799 Speaker 1: second championship by Tom Landry. They recorded eight eight turnovers 51 00:02:56,919 --> 00:03:00,360 Speaker 1: in Super Bowl twelve, very eight and it was broken. 52 00:03:00,760 --> 00:03:04,200 Speaker 1: It was broken by nine turnovers by Jimmy Johnson's first 53 00:03:04,240 --> 00:03:06,160 Speaker 1: Super Bowl team that had the number one defensive the league. 54 00:03:06,120 --> 00:03:07,920 Speaker 1: They had nine against the Buffalo Bills when they be 55 00:03:07,919 --> 00:03:10,919 Speaker 1: in twenty two to seventeen. So defense has always been 56 00:03:11,400 --> 00:03:14,240 Speaker 1: a priority, even something that the Cowboys have excelled at. 57 00:03:14,440 --> 00:03:17,560 Speaker 1: Jimmy Johnson was a defensive football coach. Tom Landry was 58 00:03:17,600 --> 00:03:20,440 Speaker 1: a defensive football coach. But for some reason, people have 59 00:03:20,600 --> 00:03:22,519 Speaker 1: fall in love with offense. And I find it surprising 60 00:03:22,560 --> 00:03:25,720 Speaker 1: that the Cowboys owner Jerry Jones, according to Chris Wartinson 61 00:03:25,720 --> 00:03:31,520 Speaker 1: of ESPN, is intrigued by tight end Kyle Pitts of Florida. 62 00:03:32,440 --> 00:03:38,120 Speaker 1: When you heard that, man, man, I knew this was coming. 63 00:03:38,320 --> 00:03:40,920 Speaker 1: I knew it was coming, and I gotta think my 64 00:03:41,000 --> 00:03:43,560 Speaker 1: boy and date Big Nate who who I do the 65 00:03:43,600 --> 00:03:45,880 Speaker 1: pre and post game shows with Nate Newton, big Dog. 66 00:03:45,880 --> 00:03:46,760 Speaker 1: He was like, you know, it was part of all 67 00:03:46,760 --> 00:03:49,640 Speaker 1: those Super Bowl championship teams. But he told me this 68 00:03:49,680 --> 00:03:52,160 Speaker 1: when I started doing this about two years ago. He 69 00:03:52,240 --> 00:03:56,520 Speaker 1: told me, no matter how bad the defense is, how bad, 70 00:03:56,560 --> 00:03:59,040 Speaker 1: they strong and the fans say, we need defense, we 71 00:03:59,080 --> 00:04:01,600 Speaker 1: need defensive help, we need to get it, no matter 72 00:04:01,640 --> 00:04:04,760 Speaker 1: how bad it is. The closer you get to the draft, 73 00:04:05,160 --> 00:04:07,800 Speaker 1: the less you'll hear about defense and whoever the star 74 00:04:07,920 --> 00:04:10,600 Speaker 1: offensive player is at the time, you'll hear this Cowboys 75 00:04:10,720 --> 00:04:12,440 Speaker 1: nations saying we need to grab it, we need to 76 00:04:12,440 --> 00:04:16,240 Speaker 1: grab him. Look to me, I understand the intrigue for 77 00:04:16,279 --> 00:04:19,520 Speaker 1: this guy, I mean, cow Pitts. If what they say 78 00:04:19,520 --> 00:04:22,159 Speaker 1: about him is correct, he's a once in a generation 79 00:04:22,240 --> 00:04:24,599 Speaker 1: type player at the tight end wide receiver. I'm gonna 80 00:04:24,640 --> 00:04:26,839 Speaker 1: just call him an offensive weapon because I don't see 81 00:04:26,920 --> 00:04:29,039 Speaker 1: him as an every down tight end in line tight end, 82 00:04:29,040 --> 00:04:31,400 Speaker 1: so I'm gonna call him an offensive weapon. But from 83 00:04:31,400 --> 00:04:34,440 Speaker 1: what they say, this guy is a mismatched nightmare. He 84 00:04:34,480 --> 00:04:36,800 Speaker 1: has the long wickets, he has a long arm, so 85 00:04:36,880 --> 00:04:40,680 Speaker 1: his catch radius is unbelievable. He can outrun guys at 86 00:04:40,680 --> 00:04:44,400 Speaker 1: the safety position, nickel position, and definitely linebacker position after 87 00:04:44,520 --> 00:04:46,800 Speaker 1: we saw what he did in his forty times. So 88 00:04:46,880 --> 00:04:49,680 Speaker 1: this guy, I can understand the intrigue this guy can be. 89 00:04:50,200 --> 00:04:53,600 Speaker 1: You know that that Megatron type weapon to your offense, 90 00:04:53,680 --> 00:04:57,680 Speaker 1: But for me, we don't have that luxury. We have 91 00:04:58,040 --> 00:05:01,640 Speaker 1: and we have one of the worst defenses, not even 92 00:05:01,720 --> 00:05:04,480 Speaker 1: out of the season last year, but in NFL history 93 00:05:05,000 --> 00:05:07,240 Speaker 1: last year, and all we're gonna do if we don't 94 00:05:07,279 --> 00:05:10,640 Speaker 1: address this and we keep kicking the can down down 95 00:05:10,680 --> 00:05:14,320 Speaker 1: the field, we're gonna continue chasing teams. All teams are 96 00:05:14,320 --> 00:05:16,000 Speaker 1: gonna be able to put up thirty on us, even 97 00:05:16,000 --> 00:05:17,520 Speaker 1: though we may be able to put up twenty eight 98 00:05:17,560 --> 00:05:21,080 Speaker 1: a game. We're gonna be chasing teams every single game. 99 00:05:21,160 --> 00:05:25,320 Speaker 1: So I understand the intrigue about this guy, But to me, 100 00:05:25,480 --> 00:05:29,359 Speaker 1: we need so much more help other places that we 101 00:05:29,360 --> 00:05:31,600 Speaker 1: don't have the luxury of drafting a guy is the 102 00:05:31,600 --> 00:05:34,040 Speaker 1: best at his position or whatever it may be. Plus 103 00:05:34,040 --> 00:05:37,240 Speaker 1: we have so many offensive weapons already. I mean, look 104 00:05:37,279 --> 00:05:39,480 Speaker 1: who we have on the outside. We got Cooper, we 105 00:05:39,600 --> 00:05:42,280 Speaker 1: got Gala, we got Cdee Lamb, who emerged as one 106 00:05:42,279 --> 00:05:44,480 Speaker 1: of the better slot receivers in the league after just 107 00:05:44,520 --> 00:05:47,359 Speaker 1: his rookie campaign. And at the tight end position alone, 108 00:05:47,560 --> 00:05:50,159 Speaker 1: we had Dalton Schultz, who was able to have somewhat 109 00:05:50,160 --> 00:05:52,520 Speaker 1: of a breakout season with the injury of Blake Jarwin. 110 00:05:52,720 --> 00:05:55,440 Speaker 1: We have him coming back from a torn acl after 111 00:05:55,440 --> 00:05:58,280 Speaker 1: we paid him twenty four million. So I just don't 112 00:05:58,320 --> 00:06:02,000 Speaker 1: understand the stockpiling at that position, at tight end position. 113 00:06:02,760 --> 00:06:05,200 Speaker 1: I don't think he's a guy that's gonna just just 114 00:06:05,279 --> 00:06:07,360 Speaker 1: take over the league like I mean, I understand he 115 00:06:07,560 --> 00:06:09,440 Speaker 1: has this unbelievable time, but I don't think he's gonna 116 00:06:09,440 --> 00:06:11,719 Speaker 1: take over the league like that. And I just think 117 00:06:11,720 --> 00:06:14,159 Speaker 1: we need so much more help on the defensive side 118 00:06:14,160 --> 00:06:17,000 Speaker 1: of the ball that we gotta address it. We can't 119 00:06:17,080 --> 00:06:19,280 Speaker 1: kick it down the field anymore. We can address it. 120 00:06:19,400 --> 00:06:21,720 Speaker 1: We can get some help for the offensive line or 121 00:06:21,760 --> 00:06:24,360 Speaker 1: something like that later on in the draft, But for me, 122 00:06:24,880 --> 00:06:27,719 Speaker 1: I've got to address this defense. This defense has struggled 123 00:06:27,800 --> 00:06:29,720 Speaker 1: mighty league, and we need to address we can't kick 124 00:06:29,720 --> 00:06:31,840 Speaker 1: the We can't kick the can down the field anymore, Newvie. 125 00:06:31,920 --> 00:06:35,320 Speaker 1: We just can't. All right, I'm gonna give you some 126 00:06:35,400 --> 00:06:40,640 Speaker 1: of the counterpoints to what you're saying. That Kyle Pitts 127 00:06:42,680 --> 00:06:48,080 Speaker 1: outside of the quarterbacks, will probably be the highest rated 128 00:06:48,200 --> 00:06:53,320 Speaker 1: player offensively or defense on the board. So based on 129 00:06:53,600 --> 00:06:57,520 Speaker 1: that that you're talking about taking the best potential player 130 00:06:57,600 --> 00:07:00,400 Speaker 1: in the draft. Oh, by the way, is what was 131 00:07:00,400 --> 00:07:04,839 Speaker 1: said about Randy Moss. Are you willing? Are you willing 132 00:07:05,240 --> 00:07:08,720 Speaker 1: to pass on some on a player? So many of 133 00:07:08,760 --> 00:07:12,320 Speaker 1: those who scout this game said this is the best 134 00:07:12,320 --> 00:07:15,280 Speaker 1: guy here. You could potentially get the best guy at ten. 135 00:07:15,400 --> 00:07:19,400 Speaker 1: Are you willing? I'm I'm willing to pass that up. 136 00:07:20,200 --> 00:07:22,640 Speaker 1: If we had a average defense, if we even had 137 00:07:22,680 --> 00:07:25,680 Speaker 1: the middle of the road maybe let's just say seventeen 138 00:07:25,720 --> 00:07:28,400 Speaker 1: to twentieth ranked defense in the league, I would without 139 00:07:28,400 --> 00:07:30,320 Speaker 1: a doubt say, you know, we can get cow pits 140 00:07:30,360 --> 00:07:33,040 Speaker 1: because that defense, even though it's seventeenth or eighteen or 141 00:07:33,080 --> 00:07:35,760 Speaker 1: seventeenth or twentieth in the league, it can still hold 142 00:07:35,800 --> 00:07:37,679 Speaker 1: its own a little bit with that type of ranking. 143 00:07:37,760 --> 00:07:39,200 Speaker 1: So I would say, you know what, let's go ahead 144 00:07:39,240 --> 00:07:42,400 Speaker 1: and get Cole Pits. But the defense, we tried it 145 00:07:42,400 --> 00:07:45,040 Speaker 1: out there last year, it was dead last almost I 146 00:07:45,040 --> 00:07:47,920 Speaker 1: mean almost a lot of the especially the rushing categories, 147 00:07:47,960 --> 00:07:51,080 Speaker 1: it was dead last. So you're gonna tell me that 148 00:07:51,240 --> 00:07:53,960 Speaker 1: bringing in dan Quinn is just gonna make that team 149 00:07:53,960 --> 00:07:56,840 Speaker 1: go for that that that assembly of assemble of players, 150 00:07:57,160 --> 00:07:59,360 Speaker 1: you're gonna make them go from dead last in the 151 00:07:59,440 --> 00:08:01,360 Speaker 1: league to a middle of the ranked team. I just 152 00:08:01,360 --> 00:08:04,440 Speaker 1: don't think the acquisition of dan Quinn is that huge 153 00:08:04,560 --> 00:08:07,680 Speaker 1: to this defense. I still think we need tools for 154 00:08:07,800 --> 00:08:10,360 Speaker 1: him to be successful as a decordinator, and we got 155 00:08:10,360 --> 00:08:12,240 Speaker 1: to get those tools in the draft. We weren't we 156 00:08:12,240 --> 00:08:13,960 Speaker 1: weren't able to go out there in free agency and 157 00:08:14,000 --> 00:08:16,360 Speaker 1: grab the tools we need for this defense. So to me, 158 00:08:16,400 --> 00:08:18,920 Speaker 1: we got to get those tools in the draft. And 159 00:08:19,040 --> 00:08:21,200 Speaker 1: to me, it starts with a number ten with thirteen, 160 00:08:21,480 --> 00:08:23,480 Speaker 1: and that's just that's just my opinion on it. I 161 00:08:23,600 --> 00:08:26,120 Speaker 1: understand Kyle Pitts is just, you know, could be just 162 00:08:26,200 --> 00:08:28,960 Speaker 1: watching a generational player. But to me, if you can't 163 00:08:28,960 --> 00:08:31,760 Speaker 1: stop the run and your teams can just pile up 164 00:08:31,760 --> 00:08:34,120 Speaker 1: points on them to pick your poison against you, Cole, 165 00:08:34,160 --> 00:08:37,280 Speaker 1: Pitts ain't really gonna do much work for you, all right, 166 00:08:37,320 --> 00:08:40,040 Speaker 1: So I'm gonna keep on just playing Devil's advocate, giving 167 00:08:40,040 --> 00:08:44,800 Speaker 1: you the other side. So you're okay, You're okay, passing 168 00:08:45,559 --> 00:08:48,840 Speaker 1: on from what could be potentially the highest rated player 169 00:08:48,840 --> 00:08:52,200 Speaker 1: in the drafted the Cowboys, sitting at ten. This is 170 00:08:52,200 --> 00:08:54,600 Speaker 1: the Player's Lodge party by hotels dot Com. You are 171 00:08:54,640 --> 00:08:59,200 Speaker 1: the play You were a safety. You see what this 172 00:08:59,280 --> 00:09:02,240 Speaker 1: young man, Kyle Pitts is able to do the corners. 173 00:09:02,880 --> 00:09:04,600 Speaker 1: How would you have been able to guard a guy 174 00:09:04,640 --> 00:09:07,760 Speaker 1: like this? Would you consider him a guy that when 175 00:09:07,760 --> 00:09:09,920 Speaker 1: the game plan came out there sitting here talking, he 176 00:09:10,000 --> 00:09:12,160 Speaker 1: was a sayings like Church, you better worry about Pitts. 177 00:09:13,480 --> 00:09:15,280 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, especially in the middle of the field. As 178 00:09:15,280 --> 00:09:17,640 Speaker 1: a safety, you kind of that's where you kind of 179 00:09:17,679 --> 00:09:19,720 Speaker 1: look for at the beginning of it. When you're breaking 180 00:09:19,760 --> 00:09:21,520 Speaker 1: down field, you look at the guys that are gonna 181 00:09:21,520 --> 00:09:24,840 Speaker 1: threaten the areas that you're in. And Kyle Pitts being 182 00:09:24,920 --> 00:09:27,679 Speaker 1: that big time or big slot or big tight end, 183 00:09:27,720 --> 00:09:29,600 Speaker 1: whatever you want to call him, he's gonna threatened the 184 00:09:29,600 --> 00:09:33,080 Speaker 1: middle of the field. So for me, I personally, if 185 00:09:33,120 --> 00:09:34,600 Speaker 1: I was a decording, and I'm going to get a 186 00:09:34,600 --> 00:09:37,280 Speaker 1: guy that he's a mismatched nightmare like that. I wouldn't 187 00:09:37,320 --> 00:09:39,640 Speaker 1: just leave one guy on him. I'm not just like, Okay, Nickel, 188 00:09:39,679 --> 00:09:42,240 Speaker 1: you got him, or linebacker you got him, or safety, 189 00:09:42,240 --> 00:09:44,320 Speaker 1: you got him. I'm not putting one guy on him. 190 00:09:44,360 --> 00:09:46,080 Speaker 1: I'm beating him up at the line of scrimmage with 191 00:09:46,120 --> 00:09:48,679 Speaker 1: one and then I'll have somebody over top trailing him. 192 00:09:48,920 --> 00:09:51,680 Speaker 1: Now that you know that, that's where we need, you know, 193 00:09:51,760 --> 00:09:53,640 Speaker 1: corners on the outside to be able to hold their 194 00:09:53,640 --> 00:09:55,920 Speaker 1: own if you're putting that much emphasis on somebody on 195 00:09:55,960 --> 00:09:58,880 Speaker 1: the inside. But yeah, that's that's the type of defense 196 00:09:58,880 --> 00:10:01,000 Speaker 1: I would put on him. And I would also make 197 00:10:01,080 --> 00:10:02,959 Speaker 1: him have to prove it first. I mean, we're touting 198 00:10:02,960 --> 00:10:05,199 Speaker 1: this guy is the next Megatron. He's yet to play 199 00:10:05,200 --> 00:10:07,440 Speaker 1: a snapp in the National Football League, So for me, 200 00:10:07,480 --> 00:10:09,959 Speaker 1: I gotta let him. Let him prove it first. But 201 00:10:10,000 --> 00:10:11,920 Speaker 1: if he's able to do that and his talent is 202 00:10:12,080 --> 00:10:13,719 Speaker 1: that's what they say there is, then that's how I 203 00:10:13,800 --> 00:10:15,160 Speaker 1: would defend him. I beat him up at the line 204 00:10:15,160 --> 00:10:17,120 Speaker 1: of scrimmage and I would let my d line do 205 00:10:17,200 --> 00:10:19,960 Speaker 1: work on that quarterback and hopefully he throws up some takeaways, 206 00:10:20,000 --> 00:10:22,480 Speaker 1: but overall, I got to see him do it first. 207 00:10:22,559 --> 00:10:24,520 Speaker 1: I got to see him on the field do it first, 208 00:10:24,960 --> 00:10:27,760 Speaker 1: and then we'll go from there. Okay, So so I'm 209 00:10:27,800 --> 00:10:30,400 Speaker 1: just just based on what you said. You're talking about 210 00:10:30,400 --> 00:10:33,840 Speaker 1: potentially having two guys deal with Pitts. So if you're 211 00:10:33,840 --> 00:10:36,439 Speaker 1: the Cowboys and you've got Pitts and Barry Church is 212 00:10:36,440 --> 00:10:38,280 Speaker 1: sitting here having to worry about him and another player, 213 00:10:38,559 --> 00:10:41,080 Speaker 1: then I've got Ceedee Lamb out in a route. I've 214 00:10:41,120 --> 00:10:43,520 Speaker 1: got Amari Cooper out and a route. I've got Michael 215 00:10:43,559 --> 00:10:45,960 Speaker 1: Galla out and a route, and I've got a potential 216 00:10:45,960 --> 00:10:48,720 Speaker 1: of Ezekiel Ellie coming out of the backfield. How do 217 00:10:48,760 --> 00:10:51,320 Speaker 1: you defend that? You got, you got, you got all 218 00:10:51,320 --> 00:10:54,360 Speaker 1: those things you do. And I've never said not adding 219 00:10:54,440 --> 00:10:56,959 Speaker 1: him would make this this offense even stronger, even and 220 00:10:57,160 --> 00:11:00,200 Speaker 1: even have more capabilities out there. My worry is what 221 00:11:00,240 --> 00:11:02,360 Speaker 1: are you gonna do with your own defense? Zeb Real. 222 00:11:02,400 --> 00:11:04,520 Speaker 1: We keep talking about this, you know, this offense putting 223 00:11:04,559 --> 00:11:06,120 Speaker 1: up this look at all these weapons and we get 224 00:11:06,120 --> 00:11:09,000 Speaker 1: to pass the ball around all these different weapons. But 225 00:11:09,040 --> 00:11:10,760 Speaker 1: then so does the offense come in again in the 226 00:11:10,880 --> 00:11:12,920 Speaker 1: face our defense. They can throw the ball all over 227 00:11:12,960 --> 00:11:14,640 Speaker 1: the place. They can run the ball over the place 228 00:11:14,760 --> 00:11:17,280 Speaker 1: because our defense was that poors. So do you want 229 00:11:17,320 --> 00:11:19,600 Speaker 1: to be in games you know, forty five to forty 230 00:11:19,800 --> 00:11:21,800 Speaker 1: thirty five to thirty twos. That's the type of games 231 00:11:21,800 --> 00:11:23,840 Speaker 1: you're gonna want to be in all season because that's 232 00:11:23,840 --> 00:11:25,640 Speaker 1: the type of route we're going in. We're going in 233 00:11:25,920 --> 00:11:28,960 Speaker 1: the greatest show on turf type route. And even though 234 00:11:29,000 --> 00:11:31,360 Speaker 1: that nineteen ninety nine Saint Louis team had the greatest 235 00:11:31,360 --> 00:11:33,760 Speaker 1: show on turf, they also had a top ten defense 236 00:11:33,800 --> 00:11:36,679 Speaker 1: to go along with that. So for me, I just 237 00:11:36,720 --> 00:11:39,000 Speaker 1: don't see the intrigue and this. I can see that all. 238 00:11:39,120 --> 00:11:41,040 Speaker 1: Let me take that back. I can see the intrigue 239 00:11:41,040 --> 00:11:42,760 Speaker 1: and why they want to get him, but I just 240 00:11:42,840 --> 00:11:47,280 Speaker 1: don't think he can possibly help our team as much 241 00:11:47,320 --> 00:11:49,960 Speaker 1: as building a defense can, because we already got weapons 242 00:11:49,960 --> 00:11:51,719 Speaker 1: that are able to put up thirty points a game 243 00:11:51,760 --> 00:11:54,640 Speaker 1: with the guys you just mentioned. If we add him, yes, 244 00:11:54,679 --> 00:11:57,480 Speaker 1: that's a that's a that's an amazing plus. But to 245 00:11:57,520 --> 00:11:59,520 Speaker 1: our defense, we're doing a disservice to our defense, and 246 00:11:59,520 --> 00:12:01,360 Speaker 1: we're trotting them out there and they're gonna get exposed 247 00:12:01,360 --> 00:12:03,120 Speaker 1: each and every day. We have got to we have 248 00:12:03,240 --> 00:12:04,760 Speaker 1: got to go out there and we have got to 249 00:12:04,760 --> 00:12:07,840 Speaker 1: put some type of town something with this defense to 250 00:12:07,920 --> 00:12:09,559 Speaker 1: make it just the middle of the road. That way 251 00:12:09,600 --> 00:12:11,240 Speaker 1: we get to get the most out of this offense. 252 00:12:11,440 --> 00:12:13,120 Speaker 1: In my opinion, I mean, do we want the greatest 253 00:12:13,160 --> 00:12:15,480 Speaker 1: show on Turfy? Well, I know offense sales tickets, but 254 00:12:15,520 --> 00:12:17,280 Speaker 1: do we want to win championships? And at the end 255 00:12:17,280 --> 00:12:19,160 Speaker 1: of the day, I think that's what the defense provides. 256 00:12:21,000 --> 00:12:25,440 Speaker 1: Bucky Brooks and I had a Twitter I won't say debate, 257 00:12:25,440 --> 00:12:27,760 Speaker 1: because we've just had different ideas and that's what it was. 258 00:12:27,760 --> 00:12:30,760 Speaker 1: Different ideas. And then and Bucky has spoken about, Hey, 259 00:12:30,800 --> 00:12:33,240 Speaker 1: if you're the Cowboys, why not build strength on strength? 260 00:12:33,520 --> 00:12:35,440 Speaker 1: And just when I asked you, hey, how would you 261 00:12:35,480 --> 00:12:37,640 Speaker 1: defend the Kyle Pitts, and you talked about using two 262 00:12:37,679 --> 00:12:39,000 Speaker 1: guys and then I just kind of gave out the 263 00:12:39,000 --> 00:12:41,959 Speaker 1: other blueprint. Okay, so now you got Cooper, You've got 264 00:12:41,960 --> 00:12:44,760 Speaker 1: Ceedee Lamb, You've got Gallup, You've got potential of having 265 00:12:44,800 --> 00:12:46,760 Speaker 1: a Zeke Ellie come out of backfield or running in 266 00:12:46,800 --> 00:12:48,800 Speaker 1: the middle. You know that you had these options. Here. 267 00:12:50,240 --> 00:12:53,240 Speaker 1: I am with you, and I've been with you on 268 00:12:53,280 --> 00:12:57,199 Speaker 1: this whole thing about defense. Your defense is true. I 269 00:12:57,240 --> 00:13:00,839 Speaker 1: don't think people realize how bad it was last year 270 00:13:00,880 --> 00:13:03,240 Speaker 1: because they were six and ten team, and because Dak 271 00:13:03,280 --> 00:13:07,360 Speaker 1: Prescott got hurt, and then Mike McCarthy used a lot 272 00:13:07,400 --> 00:13:09,680 Speaker 1: of the COVID his excuses and the fact that his 273 00:13:09,720 --> 00:13:11,800 Speaker 1: coaches didn't get to work. There was a lot of 274 00:13:11,840 --> 00:13:15,640 Speaker 1: excuses throwing out there last year. When we talked about 275 00:13:15,640 --> 00:13:18,600 Speaker 1: the Cowboys being thirty first, there's only thirty two teams 276 00:13:18,640 --> 00:13:20,520 Speaker 1: in the league. They were thirty first. When it comes 277 00:13:20,520 --> 00:13:24,160 Speaker 1: to the run, second, second to last. The Cowboys gave 278 00:13:24,280 --> 00:13:28,600 Speaker 1: up one hundred and fifty nine yards a game running 279 00:13:28,640 --> 00:13:31,679 Speaker 1: the football. I don't think people have a true understanding 280 00:13:31,880 --> 00:13:36,160 Speaker 1: of how bad that is. That's bad, like nui, How 281 00:13:36,600 --> 00:13:38,920 Speaker 1: how can how can we get the ball back to 282 00:13:39,000 --> 00:13:42,120 Speaker 1: our offense with all these weapons and all these superstars 283 00:13:42,240 --> 00:13:44,480 Speaker 1: when other teams can just ride the clock all the 284 00:13:44,520 --> 00:13:46,760 Speaker 1: way down running one hundred and fifty some yards per 285 00:13:46,800 --> 00:13:48,880 Speaker 1: game against US. I mean, there was so many times 286 00:13:49,120 --> 00:13:51,760 Speaker 1: last year where we gave up three hundred yards rushing, 287 00:13:52,200 --> 00:13:56,480 Speaker 1: Like three hundred yards rushing like teams can control the clock, 288 00:13:56,600 --> 00:13:58,840 Speaker 1: they can do what they want against us to where 289 00:13:58,840 --> 00:14:01,280 Speaker 1: our offense we might only see, you know, four or 290 00:14:01,320 --> 00:14:04,120 Speaker 1: five possessions of a game. That's how bad our run 291 00:14:04,160 --> 00:14:07,480 Speaker 1: defense was, and people don't want to address it. It's 292 00:14:07,480 --> 00:14:10,160 Speaker 1: to me, it's it's it's mind bottling. It's a head scratcher. 293 00:14:10,840 --> 00:14:13,360 Speaker 1: So so let me just also keep running down because 294 00:14:13,480 --> 00:14:15,240 Speaker 1: because we do a show every week and not everyone 295 00:14:15,280 --> 00:14:17,200 Speaker 1: catches it. But so I'll just if you've heard it before, 296 00:14:17,360 --> 00:14:19,480 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I'm gonna repeat it again. The Cowboys gave 297 00:14:19,480 --> 00:14:22,440 Speaker 1: a four hundred and seventy three points last year. They 298 00:14:22,520 --> 00:14:25,640 Speaker 1: gave up thirty four passing touchdowns. Okay, thirty four to 299 00:14:25,920 --> 00:14:30,120 Speaker 1: thirty four passing touchdowns, and that was the third most 300 00:14:30,120 --> 00:14:33,240 Speaker 1: in the National Football League. And this year, just talking 301 00:14:33,240 --> 00:14:35,600 Speaker 1: about some of the quarterbacks are going to face this year, Mary, 302 00:14:35,760 --> 00:14:39,040 Speaker 1: they get Tom Brady in Tampa Bay, they get Kansas 303 00:14:39,080 --> 00:14:42,560 Speaker 1: City and Patrick Mahomes. They get Justin Herbert, the outstanding 304 00:14:42,600 --> 00:14:48,119 Speaker 1: rookie from the Chargers last year. You've got teams like Minnesota, 305 00:14:48,160 --> 00:14:51,000 Speaker 1: it's Kirk Cousins, but Kirk Cousins has Adam feeling and 306 00:14:51,000 --> 00:14:53,600 Speaker 1: he's got Justin Jefferson. These are some of the folks 307 00:14:53,640 --> 00:14:55,440 Speaker 1: that are on the schedule. They faced Denver next year. 308 00:14:55,440 --> 00:14:57,760 Speaker 1: They got two good receivers out there. You've got Washington, 309 00:14:57,800 --> 00:15:00,880 Speaker 1: which is improving their football team. You've got dudes that 310 00:15:00,880 --> 00:15:03,480 Speaker 1: you stood up here and say they guys problems. Um, 311 00:15:03,520 --> 00:15:07,080 Speaker 1: you got Carolina, who's got Robbie Anderson. They've got that 312 00:15:07,080 --> 00:15:08,560 Speaker 1: that quick kid they didn't take a couple of years 313 00:15:08,560 --> 00:15:12,920 Speaker 1: ago out of Maryland. DJ what's his name? DJ Moore? 314 00:15:13,600 --> 00:15:16,240 Speaker 1: You've got You've got dudes that they're gonna have to 315 00:15:16,240 --> 00:15:17,960 Speaker 1: go ahead and man up against and deal with. The 316 00:15:18,040 --> 00:15:20,120 Speaker 1: quarterbacks are gonna have to do it. This defense has 317 00:15:20,160 --> 00:15:24,520 Speaker 1: got its problems. Um Rick Goslin, Hall of Fame writer 318 00:15:25,240 --> 00:15:26,760 Speaker 1: had a call him out this week, and I sent 319 00:15:26,840 --> 00:15:29,720 Speaker 1: it to you in case are folks you didn't check 320 00:15:29,720 --> 00:15:31,280 Speaker 1: it out. It is open on my Twitter page at 321 00:15:31,320 --> 00:15:35,120 Speaker 1: newis Scrugs. It's an w Y Scruggs's n E w 322 00:15:35,600 --> 00:15:38,880 Speaker 1: Y Scruggs. But some of the highlights that Gosselon spoke about, 323 00:15:39,000 --> 00:15:41,600 Speaker 1: he said, hey, look, the Cowboys get infatuated with offense. 324 00:15:41,680 --> 00:15:44,080 Speaker 1: If fans want to talk about the offense, but he says, 325 00:15:44,520 --> 00:15:46,280 Speaker 1: something you got to know about offense is in high 326 00:15:46,280 --> 00:15:50,920 Speaker 1: scoring offenses is it does not really lead to championship success. 327 00:15:51,320 --> 00:15:55,480 Speaker 1: Since two thousand, nineteen offenses Barry have scored five hundred 328 00:15:55,480 --> 00:15:59,080 Speaker 1: points nineteen. Take a guess how many of the nineteen 329 00:15:59,080 --> 00:16:04,240 Speaker 1: they won the Super Bowl? Maybe one? Maybe one one 330 00:16:05,880 --> 00:16:10,480 Speaker 1: the two thousand and nine New Orleans Saints. Peyton Manning's 331 00:16:10,560 --> 00:16:13,560 Speaker 1: greatest year of football was in twenty thirteen, when he 332 00:16:13,720 --> 00:16:19,240 Speaker 1: threw a record fifty five touchdown passes. Denver scored six 333 00:16:19,360 --> 00:16:21,720 Speaker 1: hundred points. That's the only team in NFL history to 334 00:16:21,800 --> 00:16:24,720 Speaker 1: score six hundred points in the season. Peyton Manning and 335 00:16:24,760 --> 00:16:27,160 Speaker 1: the Broncos went to the Super Bowl. I was there. 336 00:16:27,240 --> 00:16:29,240 Speaker 1: It was at MetLife Stage and Bruno Mars did the 337 00:16:29,280 --> 00:16:32,320 Speaker 1: halftime show with Sensation. And here was what I remember 338 00:16:32,320 --> 00:16:34,960 Speaker 1: about the halftime show of that game was the game 339 00:16:35,080 --> 00:16:37,880 Speaker 1: was over. I mean the game was over. They were 340 00:16:37,960 --> 00:16:42,120 Speaker 1: getting blowed out. They end up losing that football game 341 00:16:42,360 --> 00:16:44,920 Speaker 1: forty three to eight. Okay didn't We lost forty three 342 00:16:44,920 --> 00:16:48,040 Speaker 1: to eight. And this is with Peyton Manning having the 343 00:16:48,160 --> 00:16:51,280 Speaker 1: greatest football season he's ever had. I remember doing a 344 00:16:51,360 --> 00:16:54,480 Speaker 1: radio show for NBC Sports that that week with Bart Scott, 345 00:16:54,560 --> 00:16:56,200 Speaker 1: and Bart Scott was like, yeah, man, you gotta go. 346 00:16:56,560 --> 00:16:58,040 Speaker 1: You gotta go to general Man, you gotta go a 347 00:16:58,080 --> 00:16:59,760 Speaker 1: pet Manning. I was like, part man, give me the 348 00:16:59,840 --> 00:17:03,360 Speaker 1: d defense, And sure enough the defense went out there 349 00:17:03,360 --> 00:17:07,400 Speaker 1: and went whooping upside their head. That was Peyton Manning's 350 00:17:07,440 --> 00:17:11,159 Speaker 1: greatest You how about Tom Brady's greatest year of football? UM, 351 00:17:11,280 --> 00:17:15,560 Speaker 1: two thousand and seven? Were you on that? Touchdowns? Oh? No, 352 00:17:15,840 --> 00:17:19,720 Speaker 1: I wasn't. I wasn't part of that. Okay, okay, they came, 353 00:17:19,800 --> 00:17:23,199 Speaker 1: they came, They came here and put on a show. Um. 354 00:17:23,320 --> 00:17:25,480 Speaker 1: But that was five hundred and eighty nine points that 355 00:17:25,600 --> 00:17:29,080 Speaker 1: that New England team scored that year. They went undefeated 356 00:17:29,119 --> 00:17:30,920 Speaker 1: in the regular season, went undefeated all the way to 357 00:17:30,960 --> 00:17:33,920 Speaker 1: the Super Bowl. And do you remember how many points 358 00:17:34,119 --> 00:17:36,359 Speaker 1: that New England offense scored in the Super Bowl against 359 00:17:36,359 --> 00:17:48,200 Speaker 1: the Giants fourteen fourteen, fourteen And and I bring these 360 00:17:48,320 --> 00:17:50,240 Speaker 1: up to go back to say what you were speaking 361 00:17:50,320 --> 00:17:56,160 Speaker 1: about here, which is, hey man, guess what these defenses matter? 362 00:17:56,440 --> 00:17:59,640 Speaker 1: And as many points as you score, we're not seeing 363 00:17:59,680 --> 00:18:06,840 Speaker 1: it ends late into championship trophies. You I don't even 364 00:18:06,920 --> 00:18:09,280 Speaker 1: know if you were born. Super Bowl eighteen back in 365 00:18:09,400 --> 00:18:12,919 Speaker 1: eighty three when Washington went and faced the LA Raiders 366 00:18:13,000 --> 00:18:16,840 Speaker 1: and Super Bowl eighteen in Tampa Bay. So that was 367 00:18:16,960 --> 00:18:19,680 Speaker 1: the year that Washington was coming off their win a 368 00:18:19,720 --> 00:18:22,040 Speaker 1: Super Bowl seventeen. They had the fun Bunch and they 369 00:18:22,119 --> 00:18:24,520 Speaker 1: had set then set the record for points in the 370 00:18:24,600 --> 00:18:27,080 Speaker 1: National Football League, well over five hundred. They go all 371 00:18:27,080 --> 00:18:28,720 Speaker 1: the way to the Super Bowl that it's heavy frame 372 00:18:28,760 --> 00:18:30,960 Speaker 1: it against the Raiders and they got obliterated. I want 373 00:18:31,000 --> 00:18:33,560 Speaker 1: to say it was thirty eight to nine was the final. 374 00:18:33,800 --> 00:18:36,720 Speaker 1: I mean, they just got trash. And this was also 375 00:18:37,240 --> 00:18:40,080 Speaker 1: a Raider team. Washington had been earlier that year at 376 00:18:40,200 --> 00:18:44,639 Speaker 1: RFK Stadium, so you know it was bad. And I 377 00:18:44,800 --> 00:18:49,320 Speaker 1: look at what happened with Tampa and Kansas City. You know, 378 00:18:50,200 --> 00:18:52,959 Speaker 1: Tampa took on Kansas City and Kansas City blew them 379 00:18:52,960 --> 00:18:54,760 Speaker 1: out in their own stadium earlier in the year. And 380 00:18:55,119 --> 00:18:57,320 Speaker 1: the Super Bowl, Man, it was, it was a It 381 00:18:57,480 --> 00:19:00,440 Speaker 1: was a beating by Tampa Bay against camp the City 382 00:19:00,480 --> 00:19:03,159 Speaker 1: and Kansas City didn't have two offensive starting tackles and 383 00:19:03,240 --> 00:19:05,919 Speaker 1: showed they got blown out despite all the great offense. 384 00:19:06,320 --> 00:19:09,640 Speaker 1: So what you're saying, I'm backing up. And Tony Cassins, 385 00:19:09,680 --> 00:19:12,040 Speaker 1: the former great Dallas Cowboys defensive tackle part of a 386 00:19:12,080 --> 00:19:14,000 Speaker 1: couple of Super Bowl teams. Tony tweeted out this week, 387 00:19:14,040 --> 00:19:15,919 Speaker 1: hey man, Jerry, stop talking about this tight end. You went, 388 00:19:16,040 --> 00:19:19,080 Speaker 1: you won it with defense. So that's my argument back 389 00:19:19,400 --> 00:19:22,760 Speaker 1: to the fans and this whole play stuff. Hey man, look, 390 00:19:23,119 --> 00:19:25,399 Speaker 1: we can go out score these people. That's not the 391 00:19:25,440 --> 00:19:29,000 Speaker 1: strategy that wins championships. Now, if you want, you know, 392 00:19:29,080 --> 00:19:33,400 Speaker 1: a regular season division championship or just a playoff birth, 393 00:19:33,560 --> 00:19:35,639 Speaker 1: then yeah, go ahead and load up your offenses. I mean, 394 00:19:35,760 --> 00:19:38,240 Speaker 1: offenses do well in the regular season, like you said, 395 00:19:38,320 --> 00:19:42,399 Speaker 1: Peyton Manny had the fifty five TV passes, Tom Brady 396 00:19:42,440 --> 00:19:44,880 Speaker 1: had the fifty touchdown passes that year. They do all 397 00:19:44,960 --> 00:19:47,240 Speaker 1: this great stuff, But when it comes down to that 398 00:19:47,440 --> 00:19:50,359 Speaker 1: butter time, when it comes down to getting things done, 399 00:19:50,480 --> 00:19:54,160 Speaker 1: if you have a hillacious defense out there, it's gonna 400 00:19:54,200 --> 00:19:56,760 Speaker 1: win every time. It's gonna win nine times out of ten. 401 00:19:57,160 --> 00:19:59,119 Speaker 1: I mean, and that's what I think we need to 402 00:19:59,160 --> 00:20:01,520 Speaker 1: get the philosophy going in this team and this and 403 00:20:01,600 --> 00:20:04,480 Speaker 1: this defensility to add pieces to this defense. I mean, 404 00:20:04,640 --> 00:20:08,160 Speaker 1: last time we heard about Jerry being intrigued about a player, 405 00:20:08,200 --> 00:20:10,680 Speaker 1: it was Johnny Manziel when he was coming out. Now, 406 00:20:11,080 --> 00:20:14,159 Speaker 1: I'm glad, I'm glad whoever talked to him. You know 407 00:20:14,280 --> 00:20:15,840 Speaker 1: that draft night, you know, talked to him out of 408 00:20:15,920 --> 00:20:18,280 Speaker 1: that decision, and we ended up going with Zack Martin, 409 00:20:18,320 --> 00:20:21,200 Speaker 1: I believe, which would have been which was way way 410 00:20:21,400 --> 00:20:26,359 Speaker 1: better deal than Johnny Manziel. But I mean, this intriguing factor, 411 00:20:26,480 --> 00:20:28,720 Speaker 1: we gotta get away from it, man, we gotta get 412 00:20:28,720 --> 00:20:31,159 Speaker 1: away from it. And we got a justice defense. Now 413 00:20:31,280 --> 00:20:33,520 Speaker 1: later on, yeah, you know, later on, you know, maybe 414 00:20:33,600 --> 00:20:34,919 Speaker 1: a year or two from now. Dude, we could get 415 00:20:34,960 --> 00:20:37,600 Speaker 1: back to the offense. But when your defense is this bad, 416 00:20:37,680 --> 00:20:40,760 Speaker 1: you don't add things of great value in free agency. 417 00:20:41,000 --> 00:20:43,680 Speaker 1: You gotta address it in the draft. This is the 418 00:20:43,800 --> 00:20:47,680 Speaker 1: portion of the Dallas Cowboys that I kind of laugh 419 00:20:47,760 --> 00:20:49,800 Speaker 1: about it. And this comes from a national perspective. We're 420 00:20:49,880 --> 00:20:51,920 Speaker 1: here all the time. We know what's going on here. 421 00:20:52,440 --> 00:20:55,159 Speaker 1: So Chris Mortonton, who's a Hall of Fame writer, and I, 422 00:20:56,000 --> 00:20:59,200 Speaker 1: while Chris didn't say Jerry told me he's intrigued. Chris 423 00:20:59,320 --> 00:21:01,920 Speaker 1: has always had a fantastic relationship with him in through 424 00:21:01,960 --> 00:21:03,800 Speaker 1: the years. I know there's certain media people who have 425 00:21:03,840 --> 00:21:06,639 Speaker 1: a direct line to Jerry, and Chris Mortonton is one 426 00:21:06,640 --> 00:21:09,240 Speaker 1: of those guys. So I believe he did get this 427 00:21:09,400 --> 00:21:12,200 Speaker 1: from the source Jerry about being intrigued by college fits. 428 00:21:12,280 --> 00:21:14,880 Speaker 1: But Jerry's always been intrigued by certain players. You brought 429 00:21:14,920 --> 00:21:16,480 Speaker 1: up Johnny Manziel, so I kind of went back on 430 00:21:16,560 --> 00:21:18,240 Speaker 1: my list of players I know through the years that 431 00:21:18,400 --> 00:21:21,240 Speaker 1: he was intrigued up. He loved Willie McGinnis when he 432 00:21:21,320 --> 00:21:24,399 Speaker 1: was coming out of USC. He loved Willie. He was 433 00:21:24,560 --> 00:21:26,960 Speaker 1: very intrigued by Willie. Tried to trade up for Willie. 434 00:21:27,080 --> 00:21:29,600 Speaker 1: I remember having Willie on my Sunday show in LA 435 00:21:29,960 --> 00:21:32,200 Speaker 1: before he got drafted and ended up going in New England. 436 00:21:32,320 --> 00:21:34,240 Speaker 1: Willie had said he thought the Cowboys were gonna go 437 00:21:34,240 --> 00:21:36,480 Speaker 1: get him because because they were just so. Jerry was intrigued, 438 00:21:36,640 --> 00:21:38,720 Speaker 1: loved Willie mcgunis. Didn't work out there. He was, like 439 00:21:38,840 --> 00:21:41,240 Speaker 1: you said, he's intrigued by Johnny Manziel. He wasn't intrigued 440 00:21:41,240 --> 00:21:44,679 Speaker 1: by Quincy Carter, and he ended up making a second 441 00:21:44,760 --> 00:21:47,040 Speaker 1: round deal to trading again Quincy Carter when his scouts 442 00:21:47,119 --> 00:21:49,000 Speaker 1: had him as a fourth rounder and some of them said, 443 00:21:49,040 --> 00:21:51,680 Speaker 1: don't even do it. He's intrigued by Quincy Carter. He 444 00:21:51,800 --> 00:21:54,640 Speaker 1: was intrigued by mo Clayboom, and they ended up making 445 00:21:54,720 --> 00:21:57,200 Speaker 1: that draft aid deal because the Cowboys said, man's a 446 00:21:57,280 --> 00:21:59,840 Speaker 1: highest rated guy. We've had since Dion Sanders. So they 447 00:22:00,000 --> 00:22:02,760 Speaker 1: were sold on Mo Clayborn made that deal, didn't work 448 00:22:02,800 --> 00:22:05,360 Speaker 1: out that way, And I'll give you another guy, probably 449 00:22:05,440 --> 00:22:07,840 Speaker 1: the ultimate regret for Jerry of a player he was 450 00:22:07,880 --> 00:22:11,160 Speaker 1: intrigued by, really wanted, which is Randy Moss. So, yeah, 451 00:22:11,840 --> 00:22:13,879 Speaker 1: we saw what happened when when Randy came down to 452 00:22:14,000 --> 00:22:16,920 Speaker 1: the Dallas I think that was that Thanksgiving game. Yeah, 453 00:22:17,160 --> 00:22:19,159 Speaker 1: he had like three catches for three tubs. I mean 454 00:22:19,200 --> 00:22:23,119 Speaker 1: it was It was ridiculous. Can I say this about Randy. 455 00:22:23,840 --> 00:22:28,320 Speaker 1: Let me say very very hill and I defend Jerry 456 00:22:28,400 --> 00:22:32,399 Speaker 1: from this standpoint that Jerry wanted him. But at the time, 457 00:22:32,960 --> 00:22:35,720 Speaker 1: Michael Irvin had his issues and the people were looking 458 00:22:35,760 --> 00:22:39,040 Speaker 1: at the Cowboys. They didn't like them. Their own fan 459 00:22:39,119 --> 00:22:41,760 Speaker 1: bases like, man, these these aren't good dudes. We don't 460 00:22:41,800 --> 00:22:44,000 Speaker 1: like him. They had a really bad perception of the 461 00:22:44,040 --> 00:22:46,480 Speaker 1: football team that they were entitled. Too many guys are 462 00:22:46,480 --> 00:22:48,399 Speaker 1: getting in trouble. They didn't like what they saw. They 463 00:22:48,440 --> 00:22:51,440 Speaker 1: didn't feel like this was my America's team. So that 464 00:22:51,600 --> 00:22:53,680 Speaker 1: was one reason why they didn't draft Randy Moss. And 465 00:22:53,720 --> 00:22:56,240 Speaker 1: Michael Irvin had said years later, I'm the reason that 466 00:22:56,359 --> 00:22:58,800 Speaker 1: Randy Moss wasn't drafted because the issues I was going 467 00:22:58,880 --> 00:23:02,200 Speaker 1: through and old by the way, nineteen different teams, not 468 00:23:02,320 --> 00:23:04,440 Speaker 1: just the guy was but nineteen other teams pass on 469 00:23:04,560 --> 00:23:08,800 Speaker 1: Randy Moss. Okay, Randy Moss two times. And one of 470 00:23:08,840 --> 00:23:11,440 Speaker 1: the reasons why I think Randy Moss was so successful 471 00:23:11,880 --> 00:23:15,760 Speaker 1: is because of where he went. He had a good 472 00:23:15,880 --> 00:23:19,280 Speaker 1: relationship with Danny Green, the head coach. Danny Green was 473 00:23:19,359 --> 00:23:22,680 Speaker 1: able to talk to Randy Moss man to man, father 474 00:23:22,800 --> 00:23:25,680 Speaker 1: to father. Then when Randy got there in Minnesota, he 475 00:23:25,920 --> 00:23:28,920 Speaker 1: also was under the wing and tutelage of Chris Carter. 476 00:23:29,040 --> 00:23:33,560 Speaker 1: Chris Carter's okay, and then another guy who lives around 477 00:23:33,640 --> 00:23:36,320 Speaker 1: here in the area, Jake Reid, a wide receiver. So 478 00:23:36,440 --> 00:23:39,080 Speaker 1: when I look at Randy Moss's success, people like to 479 00:23:39,160 --> 00:23:42,760 Speaker 1: conveniently forget the infrastructure he went to. And Barrty, you 480 00:23:42,840 --> 00:23:45,080 Speaker 1: played in this league and you were also in Jacksonville, 481 00:23:45,119 --> 00:23:47,400 Speaker 1: so you understand that when you go to a team, 482 00:23:47,480 --> 00:23:50,560 Speaker 1: a culture and infrastructure matters very much to the success 483 00:23:50,600 --> 00:23:53,679 Speaker 1: of the player, especially if the player has question marks, 484 00:23:54,680 --> 00:23:57,440 Speaker 1: without a doubt, and especially when you first come into 485 00:23:57,560 --> 00:23:59,399 Speaker 1: this league as a rookie. If you come into this 486 00:23:59,480 --> 00:24:01,800 Speaker 1: league as a rookie and and you're on a younger 487 00:24:01,880 --> 00:24:04,040 Speaker 1: team with not a lot of veteran presence, and guys 488 00:24:04,080 --> 00:24:06,239 Speaker 1: are just kind of doing their own thing. It's kind 489 00:24:06,280 --> 00:24:08,160 Speaker 1: of hard to make it, make yourself last or find 490 00:24:08,200 --> 00:24:10,600 Speaker 1: a niche in this league because you're trying to learn 491 00:24:11,320 --> 00:24:13,119 Speaker 1: on the fly as it is, and then when you 492 00:24:13,200 --> 00:24:14,840 Speaker 1: got other guys doing that as well as kind of 493 00:24:14,840 --> 00:24:17,600 Speaker 1: like the blind leading the blind. So luckily for me, 494 00:24:17,720 --> 00:24:19,840 Speaker 1: I was able to come into this team and back 495 00:24:19,880 --> 00:24:21,720 Speaker 1: then with in two thousand and ten to Cowgood, there 496 00:24:21,760 --> 00:24:24,040 Speaker 1: were a veteran leg later team. I mean they had 497 00:24:24,240 --> 00:24:27,439 Speaker 1: Romo Witting that old offensive line before they got all 498 00:24:27,480 --> 00:24:29,480 Speaker 1: the young guys in there, like Tyrn Smith and stuff. 499 00:24:29,560 --> 00:24:31,119 Speaker 1: And on the defensive side of the ball, we had 500 00:24:31,160 --> 00:24:34,080 Speaker 1: you know, d Ware, Brady James, we had Marcus Spears. 501 00:24:34,119 --> 00:24:36,480 Speaker 1: We had a lot of veteran presence out there to 502 00:24:36,560 --> 00:24:38,160 Speaker 1: kind of show us the way. It kind of lead 503 00:24:38,240 --> 00:24:40,280 Speaker 1: us in the right direction. And for me, that was 504 00:24:40,359 --> 00:24:42,720 Speaker 1: huge from my career because it didn't have me, you know, 505 00:24:42,840 --> 00:24:45,080 Speaker 1: all every free day or every free opportunity, all let 506 00:24:45,119 --> 00:24:46,320 Speaker 1: me go here, let me go through this, let me 507 00:24:46,359 --> 00:24:48,920 Speaker 1: go hit the streets like that. No, those guys are saying, no, 508 00:24:49,280 --> 00:24:50,639 Speaker 1: you need you need to calm down, Let's let's go 509 00:24:50,680 --> 00:24:52,520 Speaker 1: look at this, or let's go work on this. And 510 00:24:52,920 --> 00:24:54,479 Speaker 1: I think a lot of that, you know, a lot 511 00:24:54,520 --> 00:24:56,680 Speaker 1: of the downfall of the young rookies or busts out 512 00:24:56,720 --> 00:24:58,879 Speaker 1: there is where they go to a situation where they 513 00:24:58,880 --> 00:25:01,240 Speaker 1: don't have great leadership, they don't have guys that are 514 00:25:01,440 --> 00:25:03,679 Speaker 1: had their best interests at hard And you know, hopefully 515 00:25:03,720 --> 00:25:05,560 Speaker 1: these guys coming out of this rookie draft land in 516 00:25:05,600 --> 00:25:07,720 Speaker 1: the right situation. But like you said that, that's a 517 00:25:07,840 --> 00:25:09,919 Speaker 1: huge thing to be able to have a great relationship, 518 00:25:10,160 --> 00:25:12,400 Speaker 1: especially coming into the league as a rookie. It's much 519 00:25:12,480 --> 00:25:16,840 Speaker 1: needed to further your progression as a player. And Randy 520 00:25:16,960 --> 00:25:21,720 Speaker 1: Moss needed Chris Carter. He didn't need Michael. He didn't 521 00:25:21,720 --> 00:25:24,040 Speaker 1: need Michael Irvin when you talk about at that time 522 00:25:24,119 --> 00:25:27,000 Speaker 1: where he was, because this was never about Moss's talent. 523 00:25:27,000 --> 00:25:28,800 Speaker 1: That's why tell people all the time, Man, you keep going, 524 00:25:28,960 --> 00:25:30,960 Speaker 1: Jerry should have done, you should have done the town. Nah, 525 00:25:31,080 --> 00:25:32,960 Speaker 1: you're not looking at the whole picture of what was 526 00:25:33,080 --> 00:25:36,840 Speaker 1: going on. You're just looking at the Oh, this talent, 527 00:25:36,920 --> 00:25:40,159 Speaker 1: we plug him in here, Nah, Man, the organization and 528 00:25:40,280 --> 00:25:41,879 Speaker 1: where they were going at the time and why they 529 00:25:41,920 --> 00:25:45,000 Speaker 1: took Greg. They took Greg Ellis because one, they had 530 00:25:45,040 --> 00:25:47,960 Speaker 1: a defensive need, but also they also needed a dude 531 00:25:48,359 --> 00:25:51,119 Speaker 1: who had a good reputation, and that was one of 532 00:25:51,160 --> 00:25:53,080 Speaker 1: the things that worked in Greg's favorite that Greg was 533 00:25:53,119 --> 00:25:55,399 Speaker 1: a good, clean, wholesome guy. They were looking for that 534 00:25:55,520 --> 00:25:58,280 Speaker 1: and they were looking for defensive help. So that's the 535 00:25:58,400 --> 00:26:02,600 Speaker 1: thing that people, Yeah, it makes me mad because you're 536 00:26:02,640 --> 00:26:05,160 Speaker 1: not looking at the whole thing of what was. You're 537 00:26:05,200 --> 00:26:08,920 Speaker 1: looking now in hindsight, because everybody could look in hindsight 538 00:26:09,119 --> 00:26:14,320 Speaker 1: about why we could all all these teams can look 539 00:26:14,320 --> 00:26:16,000 Speaker 1: back and say, man, we probably should have taken at 540 00:26:16,040 --> 00:26:18,439 Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers and not let him slide all the way 541 00:26:18,480 --> 00:26:20,399 Speaker 1: down into the twenties. I mean a lot of folks 542 00:26:20,520 --> 00:26:23,480 Speaker 1: listening around here to say this now. But at that time, man, 543 00:26:23,560 --> 00:26:26,280 Speaker 1: there was a reason why nineteen teams passed on this 544 00:26:26,480 --> 00:26:29,480 Speaker 1: dude two times in Tennessee ended up passing on Randy 545 00:26:29,560 --> 00:26:33,280 Speaker 1: Moss two times, and they taken Kevin Dyson the wide 546 00:26:33,280 --> 00:26:36,840 Speaker 1: received from Utah. Randy Moss had some issues and concerns 547 00:26:37,000 --> 00:26:40,960 Speaker 1: from people. Man, they had those issues. And Lawrence Phillips 548 00:26:41,080 --> 00:26:43,240 Speaker 1: was another guy who went the year before, and Lawrence 549 00:26:43,280 --> 00:26:46,840 Speaker 1: Phillips's off field issues became a deal where it was like, man, 550 00:26:47,119 --> 00:26:48,919 Speaker 1: when I take him, didn't for Meal came out said, man, 551 00:26:48,960 --> 00:26:51,280 Speaker 1: we were not drafting Randy Moss because they were part 552 00:26:51,280 --> 00:26:54,320 Speaker 1: of drawing drafting Lawrence Phillips, and that stuff matters come 553 00:26:54,400 --> 00:26:57,760 Speaker 1: draft time here, man, And that's why I said, and 554 00:26:57,880 --> 00:26:59,480 Speaker 1: I wish we would have done it, And we kind 555 00:26:59,520 --> 00:27:01,440 Speaker 1: of did where we went and kind of got a 556 00:27:01,520 --> 00:27:04,480 Speaker 1: veteran free agent presence um in that secondary with with 557 00:27:04,760 --> 00:27:07,560 Speaker 1: with Demante Kezy back there because I don't really because 558 00:27:07,600 --> 00:27:09,360 Speaker 1: Neil He's gonna beat the linebackers and so I don't 559 00:27:09,359 --> 00:27:11,639 Speaker 1: really consider Neil as a part of the secondary right now. 560 00:27:11,880 --> 00:27:13,800 Speaker 1: But we kind of addressed it with the Kezy getting 561 00:27:13,800 --> 00:27:16,320 Speaker 1: that veteran presence. But but you know, he really doesn't 562 00:27:16,359 --> 00:27:18,960 Speaker 1: have enough. He had some experience, but not as I 563 00:27:19,080 --> 00:27:20,520 Speaker 1: wish we could have. I wish we could have got 564 00:27:20,600 --> 00:27:23,160 Speaker 1: one of those more maybe maybe six seven, eight year 565 00:27:23,240 --> 00:27:25,680 Speaker 1: in the league type veteran safeties who had a plenty, 566 00:27:25,800 --> 00:27:28,400 Speaker 1: plenty of experience because they could have showed those those 567 00:27:28,480 --> 00:27:31,080 Speaker 1: young guys because we got a young secondary. If you 568 00:27:31,160 --> 00:27:33,359 Speaker 1: look at it, we got a super young secondary. We 569 00:27:33,440 --> 00:27:36,239 Speaker 1: got Wilson, who's well, I think he's in his third year, 570 00:27:36,320 --> 00:27:38,520 Speaker 1: but only really second year of kind of playing. And 571 00:27:38,520 --> 00:27:40,640 Speaker 1: then we got you know, Diggs, who had a good 572 00:27:40,760 --> 00:27:43,480 Speaker 1: up and down rookie season, but he has potential coming 573 00:27:43,520 --> 00:27:45,680 Speaker 1: back from an injury. And then we might potentially have 574 00:27:45,960 --> 00:27:48,800 Speaker 1: another corner in this draft, whether it be Certained Farley 575 00:27:48,960 --> 00:27:51,000 Speaker 1: or Horned the kid from South Carolina. We might have 576 00:27:51,040 --> 00:27:53,520 Speaker 1: another guy in this secondary. So we have an extremely 577 00:27:53,640 --> 00:27:56,440 Speaker 1: young secondary. And that's why to the point, I wish 578 00:27:56,520 --> 00:27:58,640 Speaker 1: we would have went in free agency and got kind 579 00:27:58,640 --> 00:28:00,879 Speaker 1: of a Tayshaun Gibson or got a trade boss or 580 00:28:00,920 --> 00:28:03,720 Speaker 1: somebody like that who's had miles and miles of experience 581 00:28:03,800 --> 00:28:05,520 Speaker 1: in this league and can kind of show these guys 582 00:28:05,720 --> 00:28:07,480 Speaker 1: the ropes and get the most out of their production. 583 00:28:07,600 --> 00:28:10,120 Speaker 1: But hopefully Kazy can't be that guy for his team. 584 00:28:10,760 --> 00:28:13,480 Speaker 1: I'll push back on Kaz because I'm gonna stay consistent 585 00:28:13,520 --> 00:28:15,680 Speaker 1: with what I've said before, even when I was hoping 586 00:28:15,720 --> 00:28:18,359 Speaker 1: they would sign him. The benefit he'll bring is that 587 00:28:18,440 --> 00:28:21,119 Speaker 1: he can at least explain the guys what dan Quinn, 588 00:28:21,480 --> 00:28:25,359 Speaker 1: the defensive coordinator and Joe with the secondary coach want 589 00:28:26,080 --> 00:28:28,080 Speaker 1: hey is trying up here do that. And if he 590 00:28:28,119 --> 00:28:29,679 Speaker 1: can get on the field and line some guys up 591 00:28:29,720 --> 00:28:32,240 Speaker 1: in the right place here, that's a benefit to me 592 00:28:33,600 --> 00:28:36,160 Speaker 1: and versus a guy coming in here who's still trying 593 00:28:36,160 --> 00:28:37,800 Speaker 1: to learn what it is they want. That to me 594 00:28:37,960 --> 00:28:40,080 Speaker 1: is why you paid for the player and you brought 595 00:28:40,160 --> 00:28:42,440 Speaker 1: him in here. Is this experience that they got here. 596 00:28:42,640 --> 00:28:46,240 Speaker 1: All right, we got to take our first break? 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And they're the world famous Dallas Cowboys cheerleaders. 657 00:32:22,960 --> 00:32:26,040 Speaker 1: So something to check out there. Um, you and I 658 00:32:26,160 --> 00:32:28,320 Speaker 1: love talking football, but we are we are fans of 659 00:32:28,440 --> 00:32:31,040 Speaker 1: music and movies and we just got the news at 660 00:32:31,120 --> 00:32:35,800 Speaker 1: DMX the Rappers fifty years old. His family conferred it 661 00:32:35,840 --> 00:32:38,520 Speaker 1: he had been hospitalized since April six after suffering a 662 00:32:38,680 --> 00:32:44,520 Speaker 1: heart attack. Man, man, you hate to see it. Man, 663 00:32:44,840 --> 00:32:47,520 Speaker 1: you hate to see it, because I meant DMX is 664 00:32:47,560 --> 00:32:49,200 Speaker 1: that's that's, that's the guy that I grew up on. 665 00:32:49,440 --> 00:32:51,440 Speaker 1: I mean, when I was finally able to listen to 666 00:32:51,560 --> 00:32:54,200 Speaker 1: the to the CDs that had the little uh parental 667 00:32:54,240 --> 00:32:59,200 Speaker 1: advisory at the bottom level explicit, yeah, explicit, I was 668 00:32:59,280 --> 00:33:01,680 Speaker 1: finally eight, My parents finally said Okay, you can listen 669 00:33:01,680 --> 00:33:03,960 Speaker 1: to stuff. Man. DMX was one of the first guys 670 00:33:04,000 --> 00:33:07,479 Speaker 1: I threw on the track. Man, his music is iconic. 671 00:33:07,640 --> 00:33:09,000 Speaker 1: I mean it goes all the way back to that 672 00:33:09,160 --> 00:33:11,360 Speaker 1: ninety nine world. I think it was Woodstock at ninety 673 00:33:11,400 --> 00:33:13,880 Speaker 1: nine when he performed in front of I'm talking about millions. 674 00:33:13,960 --> 00:33:16,280 Speaker 1: If if you haven't seen it, if someone hasn't seen 675 00:33:16,320 --> 00:33:18,160 Speaker 1: it looking up on YouTube, I think it's a nineteen 676 00:33:18,280 --> 00:33:22,760 Speaker 1: ninety nine Woodstock DMX performance. He had the whole world 677 00:33:23,040 --> 00:33:27,880 Speaker 1: singing his anthems. Man, this guy er er rough riders 678 00:33:27,920 --> 00:33:31,680 Speaker 1: anthem he was. He used and you just hate to 679 00:33:31,840 --> 00:33:34,680 Speaker 1: see you know what what what what drugs and different 680 00:33:34,680 --> 00:33:36,400 Speaker 1: type of things can do to you. I mean, he 681 00:33:36,520 --> 00:33:38,880 Speaker 1: was an icon out there and you just hate to 682 00:33:38,920 --> 00:33:42,120 Speaker 1: see passing of an icon like this. So definitely condulged 683 00:33:42,240 --> 00:33:44,720 Speaker 1: is to hit him and his family. But man, I 684 00:33:44,800 --> 00:33:46,480 Speaker 1: mean that you hate to see it because this guy. 685 00:33:46,480 --> 00:33:47,720 Speaker 1: I mean, it's just this is who I grew up on. 686 00:33:47,960 --> 00:33:49,360 Speaker 1: This is who I grew up on a lot of 687 00:33:49,400 --> 00:33:51,440 Speaker 1: people grew up on. And like I said, man, you 688 00:33:51,520 --> 00:33:53,760 Speaker 1: hate to see it. Yeah, Man, it's gonna make a 689 00:33:53,880 --> 00:33:56,680 Speaker 1: watch of that film Belly that he did. He acting. Oh, 690 00:33:57,360 --> 00:34:01,240 Speaker 1: but it's sick. You know. He was with the Rough 691 00:34:01,360 --> 00:34:04,840 Speaker 1: Riders in his first album nineteen ninety eight. Uh, it's hard, 692 00:34:05,080 --> 00:34:08,239 Speaker 1: It's dark and dark and hell is hot. Um it 693 00:34:08,400 --> 00:34:11,120 Speaker 1: was number one man on the on the Billboard two 694 00:34:11,200 --> 00:34:13,440 Speaker 1: hundred chart. And I just go back to some of 695 00:34:13,480 --> 00:34:17,480 Speaker 1: those great tunes that he's had, Um, yeah, where the 696 00:34:17,560 --> 00:34:19,640 Speaker 1: hood at that? That was, you know one of those 697 00:34:19,719 --> 00:34:22,880 Speaker 1: classic ones you you rocked all the time. Um, I 698 00:34:22,960 --> 00:34:26,160 Speaker 1: mean everybody knows that. You know, the stop dropped open 699 00:34:26,320 --> 00:34:31,600 Speaker 1: up shot. I mean, just man, everybody knows it. And 700 00:34:31,719 --> 00:34:33,880 Speaker 1: then the one who did the cisco you know, um 701 00:34:34,600 --> 00:34:38,880 Speaker 1: what these what these blank from? Yes, that was because 702 00:34:39,280 --> 00:34:45,360 Speaker 1: that was you know, he was named Oh my goodness, 703 00:34:45,800 --> 00:34:49,719 Speaker 1: man had two story I had two kills, Alicia, I 704 00:34:49,760 --> 00:34:55,000 Speaker 1: mean had You know, Luis was unique. It was a 705 00:34:55,040 --> 00:34:58,160 Speaker 1: great storyteller. If you listen to his songs, Yeah, he 706 00:34:58,320 --> 00:35:00,960 Speaker 1: told stories to pretty much every single one of them. 707 00:35:01,320 --> 00:35:02,840 Speaker 1: I mean, he was, he was a man. He was. 708 00:35:02,920 --> 00:35:05,160 Speaker 1: He reminded me of Biggie Smalls in that regardless to 709 00:35:05,239 --> 00:35:08,640 Speaker 1: where he was a great storyteller. And I mean it's man, 710 00:35:08,800 --> 00:35:10,719 Speaker 1: his music is classic, and I'm gonna have to bump 711 00:35:10,800 --> 00:35:12,879 Speaker 1: me some DMX today, man, but I have to bump 712 00:35:12,920 --> 00:35:16,480 Speaker 1: me some today. The DMX. You know, here we go again. 713 00:35:16,480 --> 00:35:18,480 Speaker 1: When you talk about a great storytelling, that's a really 714 00:35:18,560 --> 00:35:22,600 Speaker 1: great storytelling on that tune. Here we go again. When 715 00:35:22,680 --> 00:35:25,880 Speaker 1: I when I take my spin classes, I don't necessarily 716 00:35:25,960 --> 00:35:28,279 Speaker 1: like the music that comes through my comes through the 717 00:35:28,320 --> 00:35:30,800 Speaker 1: speakers at the gym, so I bring my own headphones. 718 00:35:30,800 --> 00:35:34,839 Speaker 1: So I bring my own headphones. The DMX probably gets 719 00:35:34,920 --> 00:35:37,040 Speaker 1: me through. DNX two is probably get me through about 720 00:35:37,040 --> 00:35:40,120 Speaker 1: fifteen minutes of class because I'm Abel was just turnings 721 00:35:40,200 --> 00:35:43,200 Speaker 1: on then, man, and didn't just go and and and 722 00:35:43,920 --> 00:35:45,839 Speaker 1: it's and he's got you going, man, that's the thing. 723 00:35:45,920 --> 00:35:48,480 Speaker 1: But fifty years old, Earl Simmons, that's his real name. 724 00:35:48,520 --> 00:35:51,879 Speaker 1: Earl Simmons has passed away at fifty years old and said, 725 00:35:51,920 --> 00:35:54,160 Speaker 1: I know this is a football show, but you know 726 00:35:54,280 --> 00:35:57,480 Speaker 1: guys like Barry, you know, football players love rappers and 727 00:35:57,640 --> 00:36:01,080 Speaker 1: rappers love football players. You know that dout thing. It's 728 00:36:01,120 --> 00:36:07,520 Speaker 1: a thing. And you know that's the dude's my age. Okay, 729 00:36:07,600 --> 00:36:12,879 Speaker 1: so that's when he's young. Okay when you talk about life, Yeah, 730 00:36:13,000 --> 00:36:16,279 Speaker 1: you talk about life, fifty years old is extremely young, man. 731 00:36:16,360 --> 00:36:18,200 Speaker 1: And when you talk about music and sports. I mean 732 00:36:18,239 --> 00:36:20,680 Speaker 1: they're anonymous, they're one and the same. I mean, how 733 00:36:20,760 --> 00:36:22,560 Speaker 1: many how many times do you see guys on the 734 00:36:22,640 --> 00:36:25,080 Speaker 1: front on the warm up field before a game, they 735 00:36:25,160 --> 00:36:27,640 Speaker 1: got their headphones on, their jam and because music gets 736 00:36:27,680 --> 00:36:29,440 Speaker 1: you in that, it gets you adrenaline pump, and it 737 00:36:29,520 --> 00:36:32,480 Speaker 1: gets you ready for battle to go out there, and nobody, 738 00:36:32,520 --> 00:36:34,120 Speaker 1: I don't know who was better. I don't know if 739 00:36:34,160 --> 00:36:36,520 Speaker 1: there was a better artist to get you prepared for battle. 740 00:36:36,719 --> 00:36:39,960 Speaker 1: The DMX. I mean he definitely was all my rotation 741 00:36:40,040 --> 00:36:42,719 Speaker 1: getting ready for the games. I mean, he gets you hype, man, 742 00:36:42,920 --> 00:36:44,960 Speaker 1: he gets you hype. And it's just man, it's just 743 00:36:45,040 --> 00:36:47,439 Speaker 1: it's he just feel bad that you know he's gone 744 00:36:47,480 --> 00:36:50,040 Speaker 1: so early, man, because like you said, fifty fifty years 745 00:36:50,360 --> 00:36:52,960 Speaker 1: and this life that that's still relatively young. So I mean, 746 00:36:53,000 --> 00:36:55,480 Speaker 1: you just, man, you just hate to see it. You 747 00:36:55,560 --> 00:36:59,480 Speaker 1: hate to see it. San Francisco Giants manager Gay Kapler 748 00:37:00,080 --> 00:37:03,680 Speaker 1: when he was with the Texas Rangers. Uh, What's my Name? 749 00:37:04,000 --> 00:37:09,239 Speaker 1: Used to be his walk up song, and I just 750 00:37:09,400 --> 00:37:13,200 Speaker 1: want to that's probably my best one. You know, it's 751 00:37:13,320 --> 00:37:26,359 Speaker 1: not game game and then he just gets going, dude, yes, 752 00:37:27,280 --> 00:37:29,279 Speaker 1: now now you do that now you're going to you know, 753 00:37:29,400 --> 00:37:31,200 Speaker 1: say you're going to spin class who cycling on a 754 00:37:31,200 --> 00:37:34,960 Speaker 1: bike because the fun fun? You know, stop talking, you know, 755 00:37:35,000 --> 00:37:38,920 Speaker 1: it's just look at you go away right the way 756 00:37:39,000 --> 00:37:42,080 Speaker 1: he came off. And especially for you being a safety. Okay, 757 00:37:42,120 --> 00:37:45,000 Speaker 1: you're about to hit somebody, you know, wash you know 758 00:37:45,080 --> 00:37:48,120 Speaker 1: he's just you hit just you got you gotta be 759 00:37:48,160 --> 00:37:51,160 Speaker 1: sweating now, dude, you got you know blood, he's now 760 00:37:51,760 --> 00:37:55,959 Speaker 1: sweat right now. Man. Wow. And that's the impact he had. 761 00:37:56,320 --> 00:37:59,279 Speaker 1: That's the impact he had on everybody. Man. He got 762 00:37:59,360 --> 00:38:01,800 Speaker 1: the he just he just got you in and ready 763 00:38:01,880 --> 00:38:04,680 Speaker 1: for battle. Man, it's man like I said, you hate 764 00:38:04,719 --> 00:38:06,279 Speaker 1: to see it. He was. He was an icon out 765 00:38:06,360 --> 00:38:08,680 Speaker 1: here man. But he won't be forgotten. Man that do 766 00:38:08,840 --> 00:38:11,440 Speaker 1: made some He made some classic tunes, man classic tunes. 767 00:38:11,920 --> 00:38:14,880 Speaker 1: So DMX, will you know, Black Twitter is going to 768 00:38:14,960 --> 00:38:19,759 Speaker 1: have some amazing tributes to him. And look, Dmax has 769 00:38:19,800 --> 00:38:22,040 Speaker 1: been very public about his drug addiction. Said he even 770 00:38:22,080 --> 00:38:24,840 Speaker 1: got addicted to crack cocaine at fourteen years old and 771 00:38:25,000 --> 00:38:27,760 Speaker 1: he battled it and I here he is a passing 772 00:38:27,800 --> 00:38:31,400 Speaker 1: away of a drug overdose. And I think all of 773 00:38:31,520 --> 00:38:33,719 Speaker 1: us can pretty much say we know someone in our 774 00:38:33,800 --> 00:38:37,560 Speaker 1: lives who's had an addiction and the addictions don't stop. 775 00:38:37,760 --> 00:38:40,080 Speaker 1: People at times can get some help, but you hope 776 00:38:40,160 --> 00:38:42,839 Speaker 1: that they can come through. Unfortunately he didn't come through. 777 00:38:42,960 --> 00:38:46,040 Speaker 1: But I just look here and celebrate what a great 778 00:38:46,160 --> 00:38:50,319 Speaker 1: rapper he was and the effect the rap game changed. 779 00:38:50,360 --> 00:38:52,160 Speaker 1: That's that's for me. That's when I start to look 780 00:38:52,200 --> 00:38:54,680 Speaker 1: at just athletes and entertainment. Did you change the game? 781 00:38:55,239 --> 00:38:58,279 Speaker 1: Nobody else was rapping like him the way he can't be. 782 00:38:58,560 --> 00:39:01,920 Speaker 1: Oh okay me, that was that thing about you. And 783 00:39:02,160 --> 00:39:03,840 Speaker 1: there's just certain guys that come along and be like, 784 00:39:03,880 --> 00:39:06,320 Speaker 1: all right, man, that guy's different right there. Uh. The 785 00:39:06,440 --> 00:39:09,120 Speaker 1: DC was one of my favorite because when the came 786 00:39:09,160 --> 00:39:11,560 Speaker 1: out and and he was within in wa but then 787 00:39:11,560 --> 00:39:13,279 Speaker 1: that all right, man, hey, look, Dre's got this one 788 00:39:13,320 --> 00:39:15,680 Speaker 1: guy right here and it's the DC, and he came 789 00:39:15,719 --> 00:39:18,440 Speaker 1: out of a whole different level. Um the one song 790 00:39:18,520 --> 00:39:20,680 Speaker 1: getting funky, it's just so different, like, oh man, okay, 791 00:39:20,680 --> 00:39:23,040 Speaker 1: I hadn't heard this, And I don't know if you 792 00:39:23,160 --> 00:39:24,480 Speaker 1: know about the deal. I don't know if you know 793 00:39:24,480 --> 00:39:26,400 Speaker 1: about the DC, But do you know what DLC stands for? 794 00:39:26,560 --> 00:39:30,480 Speaker 1: Barry No, what's the staying for? Dallas O Cliff he's 795 00:39:30,520 --> 00:39:36,120 Speaker 1: from here, man, I would have never thought that. Yes, 796 00:39:36,239 --> 00:39:39,200 Speaker 1: the DC has thought he was, you know, a West 797 00:39:39,239 --> 00:39:42,320 Speaker 1: Coast guy, right, and yeah, that's something doing. So he 798 00:39:42,680 --> 00:39:44,440 Speaker 1: he wrote a lot of their music, you know, he 799 00:39:44,520 --> 00:39:46,279 Speaker 1: helped he and he and Dre they wrote it and 800 00:39:46,640 --> 00:39:48,960 Speaker 1: and Q they wrote a lot of their music and lyrics. 801 00:39:49,000 --> 00:39:50,640 Speaker 1: And so he came out and did his own album. 802 00:39:50,760 --> 00:39:52,239 Speaker 1: And then he got in that car accident. And I 803 00:39:52,280 --> 00:39:55,200 Speaker 1: tell people all the time, we probably don't ever hear 804 00:39:55,239 --> 00:39:58,879 Speaker 1: of Snoop Dogg if the DC doesn't get in that accident. Yeah, 805 00:39:59,200 --> 00:40:02,120 Speaker 1: he like loses voice or something like that. Yeah, that 806 00:40:03,800 --> 00:40:05,799 Speaker 1: his tray key. It was definitely it was definitely messed 807 00:40:05,880 --> 00:40:08,279 Speaker 1: up and just and so you know, Dre kept on 808 00:40:08,520 --> 00:40:10,800 Speaker 1: making music and so his little brother Warren g is, 809 00:40:10,880 --> 00:40:13,680 Speaker 1: hey man, you check out my boy Snoop. And and 810 00:40:13,800 --> 00:40:16,120 Speaker 1: then Snoop becomes, you know, the legend that he is. 811 00:40:16,280 --> 00:40:19,040 Speaker 1: But I tell people all time, as great as Snoop is, 812 00:40:19,719 --> 00:40:23,480 Speaker 1: the DC was at that level too. But that's what happens. Man, 813 00:40:23,560 --> 00:40:25,080 Speaker 1: were just thinking about it. But when when I bring 814 00:40:25,160 --> 00:40:27,319 Speaker 1: that all tied back to DMX who's passed away today, 815 00:40:27,360 --> 00:40:29,200 Speaker 1: which is, hey man, there's these certain guys that come 816 00:40:29,239 --> 00:40:31,560 Speaker 1: along and you just said, hey man, that guy's different. 817 00:40:31,840 --> 00:40:33,360 Speaker 1: And it's the same when we look at athletics, like, 818 00:40:33,400 --> 00:40:35,960 Speaker 1: hey man, that that guy's different right here, and he's 819 00:40:36,000 --> 00:40:39,520 Speaker 1: and he's pretty special. That's what That's what they're saying 820 00:40:39,560 --> 00:40:44,640 Speaker 1: about Kyle Pits Right now, let's say different. We're thinking alight, 821 00:40:44,719 --> 00:40:48,400 Speaker 1: now we're thinking alt guys. He's different. But but and 822 00:40:48,520 --> 00:40:50,040 Speaker 1: now this is great because it comes back to the 823 00:40:50,080 --> 00:40:52,759 Speaker 1: thing I was gonna ask you before. Name me a 824 00:40:52,840 --> 00:40:56,160 Speaker 1: blue chip football player on the defensive side for the 825 00:40:56,280 --> 00:41:01,960 Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys. Blue chips now to me, to me, a 826 00:41:02,040 --> 00:41:05,279 Speaker 1: blue chipper is a guy that he's he's there every day, 827 00:41:05,640 --> 00:41:07,799 Speaker 1: down in and down. Now you can count on him. 828 00:41:07,840 --> 00:41:09,719 Speaker 1: His play doesn't drop off at all, and he's your 829 00:41:09,800 --> 00:41:14,000 Speaker 1: he's your he's your backbone. To me, for the Cowboys defensively, 830 00:41:14,560 --> 00:41:20,560 Speaker 1: I have to look at last year. I mean maybe 831 00:41:21,320 --> 00:41:24,480 Speaker 1: maybe one just man, and he has to get back 832 00:41:24,520 --> 00:41:26,600 Speaker 1: to his form. And I think that's what that's what 833 00:41:26,680 --> 00:41:29,200 Speaker 1: the seclude him from being a blue chipper is. I 834 00:41:29,239 --> 00:41:31,960 Speaker 1: would say d Law. But last season he was a 835 00:41:32,040 --> 00:41:34,840 Speaker 1: part of that historically bad defense and he didn't play 836 00:41:35,360 --> 00:41:38,319 Speaker 1: as great as a lot of us thought. He could play, 837 00:41:38,680 --> 00:41:40,800 Speaker 1: so I wouldn't. He's the only one I might consider 838 00:41:40,880 --> 00:41:42,839 Speaker 1: for blue chip. But other than that, I don't see 839 00:41:42,840 --> 00:41:46,160 Speaker 1: anybody else. I don't see anybody else because LV he 840 00:41:46,280 --> 00:41:49,120 Speaker 1: possibly could have could have been in that blue chip situation, 841 00:41:49,320 --> 00:41:51,520 Speaker 1: but he has injuries, I mean, and who knows what's 842 00:41:51,560 --> 00:41:53,719 Speaker 1: going to happen going forward with him. So to me, 843 00:41:54,000 --> 00:41:56,279 Speaker 1: you know, d law maybe, but that's a that's it, 844 00:41:56,400 --> 00:41:57,839 Speaker 1: that's a maybe for me. And that's the only one 845 00:41:57,960 --> 00:42:00,400 Speaker 1: I could I could I could think of right now. Okay, 846 00:42:00,480 --> 00:42:06,600 Speaker 1: they don't have any righty, right now? There are blue 847 00:42:06,680 --> 00:42:08,879 Speaker 1: chip players scouts, you know, when they start to blue 848 00:42:08,880 --> 00:42:11,600 Speaker 1: ship play, they're elite players. The Cowboys you're not have 849 00:42:11,600 --> 00:42:14,719 Speaker 1: an elite player on their defense. And I went and 850 00:42:14,800 --> 00:42:16,719 Speaker 1: talked to Chris Landry about it. Chris Landry used to 851 00:42:16,800 --> 00:42:19,200 Speaker 1: run the scouting combine. He also used to draft for 852 00:42:19,640 --> 00:42:23,320 Speaker 1: for the Tennessee Titans, and he drafted a George so 853 00:42:23,600 --> 00:42:26,000 Speaker 1: and he has his own football service, Landry football dot Com. 854 00:42:26,080 --> 00:42:27,560 Speaker 1: So I asked Chris, because I want to bring this 855 00:42:27,600 --> 00:42:29,759 Speaker 1: to the show, I said, Chris, um give me your 856 00:42:29,800 --> 00:42:33,120 Speaker 1: opinion about Tank Lawrence, because that's the closest of anyone 857 00:42:33,280 --> 00:42:34,960 Speaker 1: who we could have because I had a debate. I 858 00:42:35,040 --> 00:42:37,080 Speaker 1: had a debate with my guy, Pat Don'ty over at 859 00:42:37,080 --> 00:42:39,040 Speaker 1: ABC five, and Pat don't he say, hey, take is 860 00:42:39,080 --> 00:42:40,719 Speaker 1: a blue chip? I said, the cowbsn't have any blue 861 00:42:40,719 --> 00:42:42,080 Speaker 1: ship guys. He's just take Lawrence is I said, I 862 00:42:42,080 --> 00:42:44,520 Speaker 1: don't think he is. So I asked Chris. Chris said, quote, 863 00:42:44,719 --> 00:42:48,400 Speaker 1: he graded out high red grade and some in the 864 00:42:48,480 --> 00:42:51,520 Speaker 1: blue area, which is the highest grade level in league personnel. 865 00:42:51,880 --> 00:42:54,560 Speaker 1: So what he's red which means he's a good football player, 866 00:42:55,000 --> 00:42:57,520 Speaker 1: but he's not elite. When I think about you know, 867 00:42:57,680 --> 00:42:59,640 Speaker 1: God right, when I think about blue chip, you know, 868 00:42:59,800 --> 00:43:04,239 Speaker 1: Eric Aaron Donald's a blue chip football player. T J. Watt, Yes, 869 00:43:04,800 --> 00:43:07,040 Speaker 1: you see, you get it. They're elite players, and the 870 00:43:07,080 --> 00:43:09,680 Speaker 1: Cowbirs are have an elite player. And I take this 871 00:43:09,800 --> 00:43:13,120 Speaker 1: back into what we're talking about in the draft. The 872 00:43:13,200 --> 00:43:16,000 Speaker 1: Cowboys are sitting here at ten, and if things go 873 00:43:16,160 --> 00:43:17,840 Speaker 1: the way we believe, there'll be a whole lot of 874 00:43:17,880 --> 00:43:21,920 Speaker 1: offensive guys going, they could have the first shot at 875 00:43:21,920 --> 00:43:25,800 Speaker 1: a defensive player at ten, which could be Patrick Certain 876 00:43:26,480 --> 00:43:29,319 Speaker 1: of the University of Alabama, the reigning SEC Defensive Player 877 00:43:29,320 --> 00:43:31,480 Speaker 1: of the Year, part of the national champions. Here's a 878 00:43:31,600 --> 00:43:34,239 Speaker 1: kid who walked onto the campus of the University of 879 00:43:34,280 --> 00:43:38,040 Speaker 1: Alabama at eighteen and got a starting job in the backfield. 880 00:43:38,239 --> 00:43:42,719 Speaker 1: Nick Saban, his whole NFL and his whole defensive philosophy 881 00:43:42,760 --> 00:43:45,360 Speaker 1: started as a defensive back, played defensive back at Kent 882 00:43:45,480 --> 00:43:47,560 Speaker 1: State for Don James. That's his deal. He still will 883 00:43:47,600 --> 00:43:50,120 Speaker 1: coach defensive backs to this day. That's his thing. Okay, 884 00:43:50,360 --> 00:43:53,840 Speaker 1: that's where you can woo him. So for Certain to 885 00:43:53,960 --> 00:43:56,879 Speaker 1: come in there as a freshman and start their three 886 00:43:56,960 --> 00:44:00,480 Speaker 1: straight years, to me, that special. We look at Treyvon 887 00:44:00,560 --> 00:44:02,279 Speaker 1: Diggs last year and we look at him and we said, 888 00:44:02,320 --> 00:44:06,439 Speaker 1: you know, there's a future building block for the Cowboys. Yeah, 889 00:44:06,480 --> 00:44:09,000 Speaker 1: but we know this. He was the number two corner 890 00:44:09,000 --> 00:44:13,319 Speaker 1: at Alabama to Certain. So to me, if you can 891 00:44:13,440 --> 00:44:16,040 Speaker 1: get two good corners and I can get a blue 892 00:44:16,120 --> 00:44:18,200 Speaker 1: chip player, to me this one, you need a cover 893 00:44:18,320 --> 00:44:21,000 Speaker 1: corner in this league. You were on that Jacksonville team, 894 00:44:21,239 --> 00:44:23,239 Speaker 1: You guys had a blue chip corner there. You had 895 00:44:23,320 --> 00:44:26,759 Speaker 1: Jalen Rams, and you had several blue chip players, but 896 00:44:26,960 --> 00:44:30,600 Speaker 1: you definitely had one there. There's not a blue defensive 897 00:44:30,640 --> 00:44:33,760 Speaker 1: player up front. To me, there's not a D lineman 898 00:44:33,840 --> 00:44:35,879 Speaker 1: or edge guy at ten, there's a blue chip guy, 899 00:44:35,960 --> 00:44:38,440 Speaker 1: but you got a defensive back. Then you do got 900 00:44:38,520 --> 00:44:41,000 Speaker 1: a defensive back. And maybe I'm thinking a tad bitch 901 00:44:41,040 --> 00:44:44,200 Speaker 1: selfishly because me as a safety, if you know you 902 00:44:44,400 --> 00:44:46,360 Speaker 1: got those guys at the edge, if you know you 903 00:44:46,480 --> 00:44:49,080 Speaker 1: got a Ramsey and at the time I had a 904 00:44:49,160 --> 00:44:51,800 Speaker 1: boy ye on the other side, it makes your job 905 00:44:52,520 --> 00:44:55,000 Speaker 1: so much easier because you could sit there, you could 906 00:44:55,040 --> 00:44:56,759 Speaker 1: just say, all right, you got that dude. Even though 907 00:44:56,760 --> 00:44:58,759 Speaker 1: I'm supposed to help you a little bit, I know 908 00:44:58,880 --> 00:45:00,960 Speaker 1: you got that dude, lockdown, and it could free you 909 00:45:01,080 --> 00:45:04,040 Speaker 1: up to make so many more plays. So that's why 910 00:45:04,040 --> 00:45:05,920 Speaker 1: I think I have the whole We need to get 911 00:45:06,000 --> 00:45:07,960 Speaker 1: this guy. We need to get this guy at the corner, 912 00:45:08,160 --> 00:45:10,880 Speaker 1: because it would make the safety's job that much easier. 913 00:45:10,920 --> 00:45:12,880 Speaker 1: So maybe I'm being a little selfish in that regard, 914 00:45:13,120 --> 00:45:16,759 Speaker 1: But if there was a high ranking defensive lineman, if 915 00:45:16,800 --> 00:45:19,600 Speaker 1: there was someone along that defensive line in this draft 916 00:45:20,200 --> 00:45:22,880 Speaker 1: that could be that blue chip prospect, I'd be all 917 00:45:22,960 --> 00:45:25,360 Speaker 1: four because even though those corners on the outside make 918 00:45:25,400 --> 00:45:28,600 Speaker 1: a safety's job that much easier, the front seven makes 919 00:45:28,640 --> 00:45:31,160 Speaker 1: the whole entire defense that much better. And I would 920 00:45:31,239 --> 00:45:33,319 Speaker 1: lean that way, But there's not that guy right there, 921 00:45:33,440 --> 00:45:36,319 Speaker 1: So you you have an opportunity to have a blue 922 00:45:36,440 --> 00:45:39,200 Speaker 1: chip corner in certain and match him up with another 923 00:45:39,560 --> 00:45:43,880 Speaker 1: building block, possibil ability and Trey Von Days on the outside. 924 00:45:44,120 --> 00:45:45,920 Speaker 1: I think it's a no brainer. I think it's a 925 00:45:46,000 --> 00:45:47,920 Speaker 1: no brainer because if you have those two out there 926 00:45:48,040 --> 00:45:50,480 Speaker 1: who can play zone, they can play man, they have 927 00:45:50,600 --> 00:45:52,719 Speaker 1: the abilities to go out there and guard the number 928 00:45:52,760 --> 00:45:54,680 Speaker 1: one and guard the number twos and pretty much make 929 00:45:54,719 --> 00:45:56,680 Speaker 1: them the relevant. If they can do that out there 930 00:45:57,040 --> 00:46:00,200 Speaker 1: on a every down basis for this Cowboys team, I mean, 931 00:46:00,280 --> 00:46:03,640 Speaker 1: it'll be night and day. But once again, they gotta 932 00:46:03,719 --> 00:46:05,040 Speaker 1: put the work on the field to be able to 933 00:46:05,120 --> 00:46:07,480 Speaker 1: do that. But to me, you can't pass up on 934 00:46:07,520 --> 00:46:09,759 Speaker 1: a blue chipper like Certain, a guy that you said, 935 00:46:10,000 --> 00:46:12,560 Speaker 1: he's a three year starter in Alabama. He's gone against 936 00:46:12,640 --> 00:46:14,719 Speaker 1: the best talent because, like you said, he was a 937 00:46:14,840 --> 00:46:16,719 Speaker 1: number one corner, not train one things. He was a 938 00:46:16,800 --> 00:46:20,320 Speaker 1: number one corner. So he was going against the SEC's best. 939 00:46:20,600 --> 00:46:23,840 Speaker 1: And we know as a conference the SEC is heads 940 00:46:23,880 --> 00:46:27,120 Speaker 1: and tails above any other conference in the college football 941 00:46:27,200 --> 00:46:29,600 Speaker 1: right now, So he's going against the best talent out there. 942 00:46:30,080 --> 00:46:31,560 Speaker 1: I think you gotta go ahead and go ahead and 943 00:46:31,600 --> 00:46:33,520 Speaker 1: get this guy you need to as shore that side 944 00:46:33,560 --> 00:46:35,040 Speaker 1: of your defense. And I know it seems like a 945 00:46:35,120 --> 00:46:38,040 Speaker 1: broken record because I've been saying certain since we started 946 00:46:38,120 --> 00:46:41,040 Speaker 1: talking about the draft. But for me, it's a no brainer. 947 00:46:41,120 --> 00:46:43,080 Speaker 1: We gotta get this guy to help shore up the 948 00:46:43,160 --> 00:46:45,960 Speaker 1: back end. Since they don't have any blue chip prospects 949 00:46:46,000 --> 00:46:48,200 Speaker 1: to shore up our front end. I think we gotta 950 00:46:48,200 --> 00:46:51,000 Speaker 1: go certain there. But that's just your boy thinking. Well, 951 00:46:51,040 --> 00:46:52,600 Speaker 1: I just think if you're trying to talking about winning 952 00:46:52,640 --> 00:46:55,280 Speaker 1: a Super Bowl and some of the five building blocks 953 00:46:55,280 --> 00:46:56,920 Speaker 1: that you need. You need a quarterback, You need a 954 00:46:57,000 --> 00:46:59,520 Speaker 1: left tackle, you need a defensive run stuff and guy, 955 00:46:59,600 --> 00:47:01,800 Speaker 1: you need it edge guy. Um, you need a corner. 956 00:47:02,520 --> 00:47:04,920 Speaker 1: You know you need a corner. You need a wide receiver. Um, 957 00:47:05,120 --> 00:47:06,719 Speaker 1: you know you need These are the kind of things 958 00:47:06,760 --> 00:47:09,239 Speaker 1: that you need here. And I think Curtain can help 959 00:47:09,320 --> 00:47:11,640 Speaker 1: them out in this book here but by Bill Walls 960 00:47:11,680 --> 00:47:15,520 Speaker 1: called the score takes care of itself. When Bill Walls 961 00:47:15,560 --> 00:47:18,360 Speaker 1: started his rebuild and they started to win a championship 962 00:47:18,600 --> 00:47:21,480 Speaker 1: in nineteen eighty one, he decided to go heavy at 963 00:47:21,520 --> 00:47:24,000 Speaker 1: the quarterback position because the forty nine ers were not 964 00:47:24,360 --> 00:47:26,320 Speaker 1: they were where they were not where Bill wanted to be. 965 00:47:26,680 --> 00:47:29,640 Speaker 1: And obviously the guy who was the kingpin was a corner. 966 00:47:29,680 --> 00:47:31,080 Speaker 1: He took in the top ten and Ronnie a Lot. 967 00:47:31,320 --> 00:47:32,960 Speaker 1: And one of the things in reading about this book 968 00:47:33,000 --> 00:47:34,959 Speaker 1: he spoke about, Ronny says, when you bring a Ronnie 969 00:47:35,000 --> 00:47:38,000 Speaker 1: a Lot in your organization, you're actually bringing several Ronney 970 00:47:38,040 --> 00:47:42,000 Speaker 1: Lots aboard because they create others in their own image. 971 00:47:42,320 --> 00:47:44,399 Speaker 1: And when I think about a guy like Sir Tan 972 00:47:44,560 --> 00:47:47,319 Speaker 1: coming to a legendary program like Alabama's and starting from 973 00:47:47,400 --> 00:47:50,840 Speaker 1: day one, that guy had different traits. Okay, you know 974 00:47:50,920 --> 00:47:54,080 Speaker 1: because they you think about this now, Alvin Kamara transferred 975 00:47:54,080 --> 00:47:58,240 Speaker 1: out Alabama because he couldn't get No, they were stacking. 976 00:47:58,320 --> 00:48:00,440 Speaker 1: Yet they were staged. They had a lot of back 977 00:48:00,440 --> 00:48:03,160 Speaker 1: there for sure. Right. So so this is a program 978 00:48:03,239 --> 00:48:04,960 Speaker 1: and it's it's tough to compete here. I mean, mac 979 00:48:05,080 --> 00:48:07,560 Speaker 1: Jones could end up being the third overall pick in 980 00:48:07,640 --> 00:48:11,400 Speaker 1: this draft. This guy was sitting behind Jalen Hurts and 981 00:48:11,719 --> 00:48:14,319 Speaker 1: two them. Okay, this guy was sitting in the back 982 00:48:14,600 --> 00:48:16,680 Speaker 1: and they had two other guys who ended up transfer 983 00:48:16,760 --> 00:48:19,480 Speaker 1: them during that time. The Jalen Hurts. So when I 984 00:48:19,520 --> 00:48:22,160 Speaker 1: bring this and said, it's tough to play at Alabama 985 00:48:22,280 --> 00:48:24,720 Speaker 1: and you just don't walk in here to a defensive 986 00:48:24,760 --> 00:48:27,120 Speaker 1: position that Nick Saban knows left and right and start 987 00:48:27,200 --> 00:48:30,560 Speaker 1: from day one, become a championship player, become the SEC 988 00:48:30,680 --> 00:48:33,080 Speaker 1: Defensive Player of the Year, finished second in the in 989 00:48:33,160 --> 00:48:37,160 Speaker 1: the UM the Defensive Back of the Year award. Kids 990 00:48:37,160 --> 00:48:39,160 Speaker 1: from TCU more than one it. But this is to 991 00:48:39,280 --> 00:48:40,919 Speaker 1: me when I look at this is a guy who's 992 00:48:40,920 --> 00:48:44,960 Speaker 1: got a resume that says, yeah, I want that, give 993 00:48:45,080 --> 00:48:48,000 Speaker 1: me some of that, and fans aren't excited. In Church, 994 00:48:48,080 --> 00:48:52,080 Speaker 1: I'm just trying to understand how could you, How could 995 00:48:52,120 --> 00:48:56,160 Speaker 1: you not be excited to improve your football team? And no, 996 00:48:56,360 --> 00:48:59,000 Speaker 1: you ain't gonna fix everything, but at least start. The 997 00:48:59,160 --> 00:49:01,120 Speaker 1: Chinese got to say, Church, when's the best time to 998 00:49:01,160 --> 00:49:03,600 Speaker 1: plany a treat ten years ago? When's the next best time? 999 00:49:05,719 --> 00:49:10,760 Speaker 1: So start working your defense today? He and I understand. 1000 00:49:10,760 --> 00:49:13,319 Speaker 1: I understand what people aren't excited because, like we said 1001 00:49:13,400 --> 00:49:16,400 Speaker 1: we mentioned earlier, man offense, you know that sales ticket 1002 00:49:16,480 --> 00:49:18,880 Speaker 1: that gets the people excited, that gets people wanting to 1003 00:49:18,960 --> 00:49:21,080 Speaker 1: come see him. When you got a high powered offense, 1004 00:49:21,160 --> 00:49:23,200 Speaker 1: you got the greatest show on to her. That's why 1005 00:49:23,320 --> 00:49:26,400 Speaker 1: cats aren't really really excited about out certain out there 1006 00:49:26,400 --> 00:49:29,080 Speaker 1: because he's a defensive guy. He's a corner, very solid corner. 1007 00:49:29,239 --> 00:49:31,279 Speaker 1: But that's not the thrill secret that they that they 1008 00:49:31,360 --> 00:49:33,799 Speaker 1: want that they want on this on this Cowboys team. 1009 00:49:33,880 --> 00:49:36,279 Speaker 1: So for me, it's a it's an we gotta get 1010 00:49:36,320 --> 00:49:38,480 Speaker 1: this guy. I mean, I just there's there's no one 1011 00:49:38,520 --> 00:49:40,480 Speaker 1: throwth prospect to me. I mean, unless you want to 1012 00:49:40,480 --> 00:49:42,320 Speaker 1: trade back and kind of get a lot of depth pieces, 1013 00:49:42,640 --> 00:49:44,840 Speaker 1: then that could be an option. But to me, you 1014 00:49:44,920 --> 00:49:46,600 Speaker 1: gotta go on the defensive side of the ball. And 1015 00:49:47,400 --> 00:49:49,960 Speaker 1: furthermore about him, when you go to Alabama and you're 1016 00:49:50,000 --> 00:49:52,439 Speaker 1: coached up by a guy like Nick Saban, it makes 1017 00:49:52,440 --> 00:49:54,799 Speaker 1: you very coach a bull when you come to the league. 1018 00:49:54,800 --> 00:49:57,080 Speaker 1: And that's a big thing that rookies don't seem to 1019 00:49:57,120 --> 00:49:59,120 Speaker 1: mind when they come into the league. They think they 1020 00:49:59,239 --> 00:50:02,040 Speaker 1: know everything. I mean, they think they always we understand 1021 00:50:02,120 --> 00:50:04,160 Speaker 1: that I just covered three. That's easy. But what are 1022 00:50:04,160 --> 00:50:06,240 Speaker 1: you talking? I could do this and with my eyes closed. 1023 00:50:06,360 --> 00:50:08,239 Speaker 1: And they go out there and they get exposed. But 1024 00:50:08,360 --> 00:50:11,279 Speaker 1: you rarely see that from Alabama players coming in. They're 1025 00:50:11,360 --> 00:50:13,759 Speaker 1: very culturable and they they they're able to pick up 1026 00:50:13,840 --> 00:50:16,840 Speaker 1: schemes very fast. So for me, this guy's a no brainer. 1027 00:50:16,960 --> 00:50:20,400 Speaker 1: He has all the tools you need. He's smart, he's physical, 1028 00:50:20,480 --> 00:50:22,080 Speaker 1: and he can go out there and make plays. And 1029 00:50:22,200 --> 00:50:26,040 Speaker 1: that's what this defense needs badly, is playmakers out there 1030 00:50:26,239 --> 00:50:28,640 Speaker 1: instead of guys running guys and letting guys run for 1031 00:50:28,680 --> 00:50:31,080 Speaker 1: three hundred yards on us. We need playmakers out there. 1032 00:50:31,280 --> 00:50:33,640 Speaker 1: And this guy's there at number ten. A couple of 1033 00:50:33,680 --> 00:50:36,200 Speaker 1: folks here, um just just reading some of the comments 1034 00:50:36,239 --> 00:50:38,680 Speaker 1: were against his knew he completely against the offensive player, 1035 00:50:38,800 --> 00:50:41,680 Speaker 1: laugh out loud says that's why I like Horn. He's 1036 00:50:41,680 --> 00:50:45,799 Speaker 1: a total dog. But that's me peace. Another persons has 1037 00:50:45,840 --> 00:50:47,560 Speaker 1: that type of attitude as well. And there to my 1038 00:50:47,760 --> 00:50:51,000 Speaker 1: jac Horn the corner from South Carolina, here's my thing 1039 00:50:51,080 --> 00:50:53,960 Speaker 1: on that. And you can speak to this better than 1040 00:50:54,000 --> 00:50:57,759 Speaker 1: me because you understand this concept even more. Horn to me, 1041 00:50:57,960 --> 00:50:59,680 Speaker 1: looks like a guy. You put him out there on 1042 00:50:59,680 --> 00:51:01,239 Speaker 1: the eye and let him do his thing. You're not 1043 00:51:01,320 --> 00:51:02,800 Speaker 1: trying to have him sit up here and playing a 1044 00:51:02,800 --> 00:51:04,960 Speaker 1: bunch of zones and thinking just hey man, you know, 1045 00:51:05,239 --> 00:51:07,520 Speaker 1: go over here to your side, take care of the business, 1046 00:51:07,560 --> 00:51:09,040 Speaker 1: which you know will make him a great three or 1047 00:51:09,040 --> 00:51:11,960 Speaker 1: four player. But dan Quinn is playing that that that 1048 00:51:12,520 --> 00:51:14,399 Speaker 1: Seattle defense and they're using a lot of his own. 1049 00:51:15,000 --> 00:51:16,600 Speaker 1: So I don't know if I would draft a guy 1050 00:51:16,680 --> 00:51:19,160 Speaker 1: like Horn and put him in his zone. You've spoken 1051 00:51:19,200 --> 00:51:22,440 Speaker 1: before about mulclayborne, you and did Danny m craize saying, hey, 1052 00:51:22,480 --> 00:51:24,520 Speaker 1: you guys felt it. Here's a man guy. They trying 1053 00:51:24,560 --> 00:51:26,520 Speaker 1: to start having him play zone and it didn't fit 1054 00:51:26,640 --> 00:51:29,200 Speaker 1: with the skills. Patrick Chutan is a guy that you know, 1055 00:51:29,680 --> 00:51:31,640 Speaker 1: can do a whole lot of things. That's that's the 1056 00:51:31,719 --> 00:51:33,520 Speaker 1: ability of me is he's such a technician and he 1057 00:51:33,560 --> 00:51:36,319 Speaker 1: can do different things, and he can play the run 1058 00:51:36,560 --> 00:51:39,279 Speaker 1: very well. I don't think people are talking about that enough. 1059 00:51:39,520 --> 00:51:41,719 Speaker 1: You know, jac Horne's a good corner. I'm not saying, 1060 00:51:41,840 --> 00:51:44,560 Speaker 1: but he doesn't play the run the way a guy 1061 00:51:44,680 --> 00:51:46,600 Speaker 1: like Shurtan plays the run. And I think that's going 1062 00:51:46,640 --> 00:51:48,279 Speaker 1: to be important to a guy like Dan Quinn and 1063 00:51:48,360 --> 00:51:51,560 Speaker 1: his king And you just mentioned it earlier. I mean 1064 00:51:52,040 --> 00:51:54,279 Speaker 1: we saw a perfect example of that. And not saying 1065 00:51:54,320 --> 00:51:56,200 Speaker 1: that j. C. Horn can't play his own or anything 1066 00:51:56,280 --> 00:51:58,080 Speaker 1: like that, but when you got a guy that's a 1067 00:51:58,200 --> 00:52:01,239 Speaker 1: shut down corner and mentality, he's like, oh who I 1068 00:52:01,280 --> 00:52:03,320 Speaker 1: got this guy? Got the best guy? I guarantee you 1069 00:52:03,400 --> 00:52:04,960 Speaker 1: just guy, I won't catch anything. When you got that 1070 00:52:05,040 --> 00:52:07,800 Speaker 1: mentality kind of kind of similar to what Mo Claiborne 1071 00:52:07,880 --> 00:52:09,640 Speaker 1: had when he came in there. He was that Thorpeal 1072 00:52:09,719 --> 00:52:11,840 Speaker 1: War winner LS. You had him go out there and 1073 00:52:11,920 --> 00:52:14,000 Speaker 1: just shut down the main guy. Just go out there 1074 00:52:14,000 --> 00:52:15,920 Speaker 1: and do what you do best. That's play man the man. 1075 00:52:16,000 --> 00:52:17,920 Speaker 1: There wasn't a lot of communicating. There wasn't a lot 1076 00:52:17,960 --> 00:52:19,920 Speaker 1: of oh, I got this guy. If he goes under shallow, 1077 00:52:20,000 --> 00:52:21,680 Speaker 1: let me alert you, and all that other stuff. Where 1078 00:52:21,680 --> 00:52:23,680 Speaker 1: you're a man the man quarter, that's who you got. 1079 00:52:23,960 --> 00:52:25,920 Speaker 1: And that's what hurt Mo when he came here because 1080 00:52:26,040 --> 00:52:28,480 Speaker 1: we were more of a zone team, especially at cover 1081 00:52:28,600 --> 00:52:30,719 Speaker 1: two zone team, where you just had to get hands 1082 00:52:30,760 --> 00:52:32,680 Speaker 1: on him and you had to see more. You had 1083 00:52:32,719 --> 00:52:34,480 Speaker 1: to see more out there. You weren't just focused on 1084 00:52:34,600 --> 00:52:36,520 Speaker 1: one guy. And that what kind of scares me in 1085 00:52:36,560 --> 00:52:38,920 Speaker 1: with this JC Horn guy is he's a great man 1086 00:52:39,040 --> 00:52:41,200 Speaker 1: the man guy. He can lock guys up. But if 1087 00:52:41,239 --> 00:52:43,319 Speaker 1: we're in that zone scheme, we're gonna bring that lesion 1088 00:52:43,360 --> 00:52:45,400 Speaker 1: of Boom type defense down here where they were more 1089 00:52:45,520 --> 00:52:48,040 Speaker 1: zone and a lot of communicating, is he gonna be 1090 00:52:48,080 --> 00:52:50,160 Speaker 1: able to do that is he gonna be able to see. Okay, 1091 00:52:50,160 --> 00:52:51,640 Speaker 1: I got a slot receiver right here. I need to 1092 00:52:51,680 --> 00:52:53,960 Speaker 1: play two to one because if that slot goes deep, 1093 00:52:54,040 --> 00:52:56,279 Speaker 1: but this number one, say shallow, I gotta alert my 1094 00:52:56,360 --> 00:52:58,080 Speaker 1: linebacker to get shallow, and I gotta go ahead and 1095 00:52:58,120 --> 00:53:00,279 Speaker 1: cover this number two. There's a lot of think when 1096 00:53:00,280 --> 00:53:03,239 Speaker 1: you come when you get involved with a primarily zone team. 1097 00:53:03,360 --> 00:53:05,360 Speaker 1: So that's just what I would think about that. I 1098 00:53:05,520 --> 00:53:08,640 Speaker 1: know certain has the pedigree, he has that technique to 1099 00:53:08,760 --> 00:53:11,120 Speaker 1: be able to do both. That's why I leaned towards him. 1100 00:53:11,400 --> 00:53:15,040 Speaker 1: Nothing against JC Horn, but this guy, this guy certa, 1101 00:53:15,400 --> 00:53:17,120 Speaker 1: he could do the best. He's the best of both worlds. 1102 00:53:17,120 --> 00:53:19,200 Speaker 1: And that's why I say you gotta get him. He's 1103 00:53:19,239 --> 00:53:23,000 Speaker 1: what you call the clean player. Yeah, you know, the 1104 00:53:23,080 --> 00:53:25,120 Speaker 1: tape tells you this is a good football player. He 1105 00:53:25,160 --> 00:53:27,319 Speaker 1: can contribute, and just so many check marks are there. 1106 00:53:27,719 --> 00:53:29,480 Speaker 1: There's no there's not a lot of downside. There's not 1107 00:53:29,480 --> 00:53:31,160 Speaker 1: a lot of gambles here. And I just don't think 1108 00:53:31,160 --> 00:53:33,520 Speaker 1: the Cowboys came back here gambling. This is what you want. 1109 00:53:33,640 --> 00:53:35,360 Speaker 1: A guy who's played at the highest level, who's won 1110 00:53:35,400 --> 00:53:37,400 Speaker 1: a championship, who's been a guy who's been starting since 1111 00:53:37,520 --> 00:53:39,239 Speaker 1: day one, who clearly can play for one of the 1112 00:53:39,320 --> 00:53:42,800 Speaker 1: toughest coaches in all of college football, who understands what 1113 00:53:43,200 --> 00:53:45,440 Speaker 1: that kind of complex defense is there. So boom, love 1114 00:53:45,520 --> 00:53:47,400 Speaker 1: that guy. Church. You brought up another topic here, and 1115 00:53:47,440 --> 00:53:49,239 Speaker 1: I want to make sure we get to it. Can 1116 00:53:49,360 --> 00:53:54,720 Speaker 1: Ezekiel Elliott have a bounce back season? Go ah? I hope, 1117 00:53:55,320 --> 00:53:58,040 Speaker 1: I hope, and I pray for the sake of this 1118 00:53:58,120 --> 00:54:01,560 Speaker 1: football team that Ezekiel Eliet can bounce back and have 1119 00:54:01,800 --> 00:54:03,680 Speaker 1: some type of form that he used to have. I 1120 00:54:03,920 --> 00:54:06,719 Speaker 1: don't think we'll ever get back to that twenty sixteen 1121 00:54:07,880 --> 00:54:10,919 Speaker 1: Ezekiel Elliott because he was the main focus of the team. 1122 00:54:11,080 --> 00:54:13,040 Speaker 1: He was the guy that was getting the ball down, 1123 00:54:13,120 --> 00:54:15,160 Speaker 1: in and down. Now he was the engine that kept 1124 00:54:15,239 --> 00:54:18,560 Speaker 1: this offense going over the years, we kind of transition 1125 00:54:18,640 --> 00:54:21,920 Speaker 1: to now Dak is basically the offense and the engine 1126 00:54:21,960 --> 00:54:23,960 Speaker 1: that keeps it going, and Zeke is kind of a 1127 00:54:24,040 --> 00:54:25,520 Speaker 1: just you know, all right, let's run the ball, is 1128 00:54:25,640 --> 00:54:28,239 Speaker 1: keep the defense on this type role. So even though 1129 00:54:28,280 --> 00:54:30,440 Speaker 1: I would love for him to get back to his 1130 00:54:30,600 --> 00:54:32,439 Speaker 1: old form, and I think that would get the most 1131 00:54:32,520 --> 00:54:34,399 Speaker 1: out of this offense and out of this team, we're 1132 00:54:34,440 --> 00:54:36,880 Speaker 1: able to control the clock through the run game. I 1133 00:54:37,360 --> 00:54:39,920 Speaker 1: just don't see it happening because we have an offensive 1134 00:54:39,920 --> 00:54:42,839 Speaker 1: coordinator and we have an offense with a head coach 1135 00:54:42,960 --> 00:54:46,080 Speaker 1: that is he's very, very dominant when it comes to 1136 00:54:46,200 --> 00:54:48,960 Speaker 1: throwing the ball. When we've seen it the last year. 1137 00:54:49,080 --> 00:54:51,239 Speaker 1: I think, like you mentioned earlier in our group, chet, 1138 00:54:51,640 --> 00:54:54,040 Speaker 1: I think what was it Zeke was sixteenth and Russian 1139 00:54:54,040 --> 00:54:57,080 Speaker 1: attempts in the National Football League. The cowboy guy as 1140 00:54:57,120 --> 00:55:00,440 Speaker 1: a team a Cowboys a team, okay, but he's not 1141 00:55:00,520 --> 00:55:03,280 Speaker 1: getting the carries that we think a guy that's getting 1142 00:55:03,320 --> 00:55:06,200 Speaker 1: paid whatever he got ninety millions should get. And then 1143 00:55:06,239 --> 00:55:09,200 Speaker 1: you got guys thinking about adding another offensive weapon and 1144 00:55:09,320 --> 00:55:12,040 Speaker 1: Kyle Pitts another guy that's gonna take the ball away 1145 00:55:12,239 --> 00:55:15,960 Speaker 1: from execular Ellen when we already have Ceedee Lamb, Michael 1146 00:55:16,000 --> 00:55:18,920 Speaker 1: Gallop Cooper, that's gonna spread the ball around. When we 1147 00:55:19,000 --> 00:55:22,240 Speaker 1: add another offensive threat like that, the balls getting spread 1148 00:55:22,280 --> 00:55:24,239 Speaker 1: too thin. And I don't think, well, he'll be able 1149 00:55:24,280 --> 00:55:26,359 Speaker 1: to get the touches necessary for him to be off 1150 00:55:26,360 --> 00:55:28,560 Speaker 1: there and be the best back he can get because 1151 00:55:28,680 --> 00:55:30,600 Speaker 1: I think the running back position, you gotta have that 1152 00:55:30,719 --> 00:55:32,520 Speaker 1: rhythm going. You can't just you know, let me hand 1153 00:55:32,560 --> 00:55:34,160 Speaker 1: it off to you once every couple of downs, and 1154 00:55:34,360 --> 00:55:35,920 Speaker 1: I want to see you make a big play. You 1155 00:55:36,000 --> 00:55:37,719 Speaker 1: gotta gotta get that rhythm, you gotta get kind of 1156 00:55:37,760 --> 00:55:40,160 Speaker 1: wear that defense down. And with the offense or the 1157 00:55:40,239 --> 00:55:42,640 Speaker 1: offense we have, the passing heavy offense we have, and 1158 00:55:42,800 --> 00:55:45,200 Speaker 1: especially if we add another Kyle Pits to the situation, 1159 00:55:45,719 --> 00:55:47,400 Speaker 1: I just don't see the ball being able to get 1160 00:55:47,440 --> 00:55:49,400 Speaker 1: to execute the Elliot. It'll be spread too thin and 1161 00:55:49,760 --> 00:55:51,560 Speaker 1: he might have an alright season, but it won't be 1162 00:55:52,000 --> 00:55:53,680 Speaker 1: what we're used to or what we were used to 1163 00:55:54,320 --> 00:55:55,719 Speaker 1: back when he was in his first couple of years 1164 00:55:55,760 --> 00:55:58,520 Speaker 1: in the National Football League. Brother, I'm sitting here in 1165 00:55:58,680 --> 00:56:06,040 Speaker 1: my as WB SEE virtual home studio saying to myself, Yeah, Church, 1166 00:56:06,080 --> 00:56:09,920 Speaker 1: you're right when you when you first came up and 1167 00:56:10,520 --> 00:56:12,759 Speaker 1: had the question, I said to myself immediately, he won't 1168 00:56:12,800 --> 00:56:14,719 Speaker 1: get the chance. He won't get the chance that to 1169 00:56:14,760 --> 00:56:18,880 Speaker 1: bounce back you. And the unfortunate thing for me is 1170 00:56:19,680 --> 00:56:23,120 Speaker 1: fans want to beat up Ezekiel Elliott for his contract now. 1171 00:56:23,960 --> 00:56:29,480 Speaker 1: And here's where I will defend Ezekiel Elliott. They signed 1172 00:56:29,560 --> 00:56:31,920 Speaker 1: him to be a bell cat running back. Who's why 1173 00:56:32,000 --> 00:56:34,880 Speaker 1: he got ninety million dollars and you know, set the market. 1174 00:56:35,480 --> 00:56:38,960 Speaker 1: Then you hired a football coach who's never done that 1175 00:56:39,960 --> 00:56:42,240 Speaker 1: as a head coach with this football teams in Greenback, 1176 00:56:42,640 --> 00:56:46,040 Speaker 1: they never featured a running back. And all we have 1177 00:56:46,160 --> 00:56:49,000 Speaker 1: to do, if you're a cowboy fan is go back 1178 00:56:49,040 --> 00:56:51,880 Speaker 1: to win. Was Emmett Smith doing the bulk of his damage. 1179 00:56:52,120 --> 00:56:54,920 Speaker 1: It's in the fourth quarter because it was a consistent thing. 1180 00:56:54,920 --> 00:56:58,440 Speaker 1: It's like boxing Ja ja champion, next fam he knockout 1181 00:56:58,440 --> 00:57:00,640 Speaker 1: puts and that's what it was able to do. It's 1182 00:57:00,640 --> 00:57:03,440 Speaker 1: a continual thing. It's watching, it's watching the greatness of 1183 00:57:03,600 --> 00:57:06,400 Speaker 1: Derrick Henry Tennessee runs the football and so by the 1184 00:57:06,480 --> 00:57:08,719 Speaker 1: time the fourth quarter, all those body blows, all those 1185 00:57:08,840 --> 00:57:11,000 Speaker 1: jabs got you, and there's kid comes to the knockout punch. 1186 00:57:11,640 --> 00:57:13,839 Speaker 1: Zeque Elli's not going to get that opportunity here. Even 1187 00:57:13,920 --> 00:57:17,520 Speaker 1: though Mike McCarthy at his press conference spoke about, you know, 1188 00:57:17,680 --> 00:57:20,720 Speaker 1: trying to be more balanced, but I'm sorry, how can 1189 00:57:20,800 --> 00:57:22,360 Speaker 1: you be more balanced when you got the dog on 1190 00:57:22,960 --> 00:57:25,640 Speaker 1: owners saying he's intrigued with Kyle Pitts. You're not. You're 1191 00:57:25,680 --> 00:57:28,360 Speaker 1: not intrigued by you're running back. You're intrigued by throwing 1192 00:57:28,400 --> 00:57:31,120 Speaker 1: the ball over the place and getting Dak Prescott um 1193 00:57:31,560 --> 00:57:34,480 Speaker 1: more weapons. And I just I just think that poor 1194 00:57:34,560 --> 00:57:38,200 Speaker 1: Ezekiel Elliott is not going to ever lead the league 1195 00:57:38,240 --> 00:57:41,040 Speaker 1: in rushing again. I think we could say that Church. 1196 00:57:41,360 --> 00:57:43,880 Speaker 1: I don't see him leading league the league and rushing again. 1197 00:57:43,960 --> 00:57:46,080 Speaker 1: I don't see it because they're not committed to it. 1198 00:57:46,320 --> 00:57:48,800 Speaker 1: Your offensive coordinator is a former quarterback. He wants to 1199 00:57:48,880 --> 00:57:50,920 Speaker 1: throw the ball. You know it's third and one or 1200 00:57:50,960 --> 00:57:54,000 Speaker 1: third and two. They sitting there hit throwing a route 1201 00:57:54,040 --> 00:57:58,280 Speaker 1: to a rookie. You know, they don't believe, they don't 1202 00:57:58,320 --> 00:58:01,400 Speaker 1: believe in it. Um. He's got to fix his funneling 1203 00:58:01,440 --> 00:58:03,720 Speaker 1: problems for last year too. Almost. I want to make 1204 00:58:03,720 --> 00:58:05,560 Speaker 1: sure I put that out there that he's got to improve. 1205 00:58:05,680 --> 00:58:07,880 Speaker 1: But and I know you thought that he wasn't in 1206 00:58:08,000 --> 00:58:09,880 Speaker 1: shape the way he needed to be and he battled 1207 00:58:09,920 --> 00:58:12,960 Speaker 1: COVID last year. It was definitely a down here for Ezekielli. 1208 00:58:13,200 --> 00:58:15,560 Speaker 1: But when you talk about balance back, I think the 1209 00:58:15,640 --> 00:58:17,160 Speaker 1: first thing has to start. There has to be a 1210 00:58:17,200 --> 00:58:19,600 Speaker 1: commitment to run in the ball, and there's not axa 1211 00:58:19,880 --> 00:58:22,440 Speaker 1: to running the ball from this head coach. It has 1212 00:58:22,520 --> 00:58:24,760 Speaker 1: to be and I think the biggest wall or the 1213 00:58:24,840 --> 00:58:28,760 Speaker 1: biggest defender. Zeke's gonna have to overcome. It's gonna have 1214 00:58:28,840 --> 00:58:31,360 Speaker 1: to be as offensive coordinator. I mean, like you mentioned, 1215 00:58:31,400 --> 00:58:33,560 Speaker 1: I mean there were so many times last year where 1216 00:58:33,560 --> 00:58:35,480 Speaker 1: we're like, wait, what are you doing? You got a 1217 00:58:35,560 --> 00:58:38,120 Speaker 1: ninety million dollars running back. Fourth and one we're throwing 1218 00:58:38,160 --> 00:58:40,600 Speaker 1: a five yard hitch to Cde Lamb. I mean, it's 1219 00:58:40,640 --> 00:58:43,960 Speaker 1: just it's just head scratching moments like that's where you're like, wait, 1220 00:58:44,040 --> 00:58:45,960 Speaker 1: what's going on? And I know I joke a lot 1221 00:58:46,000 --> 00:58:48,120 Speaker 1: about him being a fullback and all this other stuff, 1222 00:58:48,240 --> 00:58:50,920 Speaker 1: but there was instances last year where he lined up 1223 00:58:51,000 --> 00:58:53,040 Speaker 1: as a fullback and I'm like, wait, what you're You're 1224 00:58:53,160 --> 00:58:55,600 Speaker 1: using him as a fullback to fake him the ball 1225 00:58:55,640 --> 00:58:58,600 Speaker 1: and then pitch to Tony Pollo somewhere. A look, I 1226 00:58:58,680 --> 00:59:02,520 Speaker 1: don't understand that you got this guy. He's ninety million dollars. 1227 00:59:02,640 --> 00:59:05,360 Speaker 1: He he is one of he I'm not gonna say 1228 00:59:05,400 --> 00:59:07,280 Speaker 1: he is one a top five back because not after 1229 00:59:07,400 --> 00:59:09,480 Speaker 1: last year. But he still has some talent in the 1230 00:59:09,560 --> 00:59:11,960 Speaker 1: tank to be able to do damage. I just don't 1231 00:59:12,000 --> 00:59:13,760 Speaker 1: think he gets the reps he needs to get to 1232 00:59:13,840 --> 00:59:16,040 Speaker 1: be able to wear down a defense and get get 1233 00:59:16,120 --> 00:59:18,520 Speaker 1: back to those game breaking plays that he was able 1234 00:59:18,560 --> 00:59:20,320 Speaker 1: to do. And like you said, dude, I don't know 1235 00:59:20,320 --> 00:59:22,920 Speaker 1: if we'll ever get back to that moment. But for him, 1236 00:59:22,960 --> 00:59:25,120 Speaker 1: I think he needs as far as his career is gonna, 1237 00:59:25,400 --> 00:59:27,120 Speaker 1: I think he needs a bounce back year this year. 1238 00:59:27,240 --> 00:59:29,640 Speaker 1: But I just I'm not sure how it's gonna happen 1239 00:59:29,960 --> 00:59:32,280 Speaker 1: with all those offensive weapons and spreading the ball. There's 1240 00:59:32,280 --> 00:59:35,120 Speaker 1: only one ball. There's only one ball out there, and 1241 00:59:35,240 --> 00:59:38,240 Speaker 1: with all these options, somebody's gonna be unhappy. I'm just 1242 00:59:38,600 --> 00:59:40,800 Speaker 1: surprised that it's the ninety million dollars man that's gonna 1243 00:59:40,880 --> 00:59:42,840 Speaker 1: end up being the one left out. You know. That's 1244 00:59:42,840 --> 00:59:45,480 Speaker 1: that's a head scratcher to me. It's going to turn 1245 00:59:45,560 --> 00:59:49,000 Speaker 1: out at the way they're going, Okay, the way they're going, 1246 00:59:49,160 --> 00:59:50,760 Speaker 1: it's going to turn out that you're going to look 1247 00:59:50,800 --> 00:59:52,640 Speaker 1: at the money you spent on Zeka Elliott and say 1248 00:59:53,560 --> 00:59:56,920 Speaker 1: that was You're not getting the return on investment. That's 1249 00:59:56,960 --> 00:59:58,960 Speaker 1: what's going to happen, and people are gonna want to 1250 00:59:59,040 --> 01:00:02,320 Speaker 1: blame the play, and that's what I'm just kind of 1251 01:00:02,360 --> 01:00:04,960 Speaker 1: cautioning against. For the cowboy fans that are checking us 1252 01:00:05,000 --> 01:00:06,560 Speaker 1: out here on the Players Lounge, brought to you by 1253 01:00:06,640 --> 01:00:10,000 Speaker 1: hotels dot Com. This isn't all on the player. He 1254 01:00:10,200 --> 01:00:13,960 Speaker 1: can't give himself the football. He's not getting the type 1255 01:00:14,040 --> 01:00:16,760 Speaker 1: of work that a Dalvin Cook is getting in Minnesota 1256 01:00:17,480 --> 01:00:22,760 Speaker 1: or or even Derrick Henry in Tennessee. Those coaches are 1257 01:00:22,840 --> 01:00:25,760 Speaker 1: those head coaches are about running the ball. They're also 1258 01:00:25,880 --> 01:00:29,320 Speaker 1: defensive guys too. They're defense is shocked. The defensive guys 1259 01:00:29,360 --> 01:00:32,160 Speaker 1: are about running the football. And you've got an offensive 1260 01:00:32,160 --> 01:00:35,280 Speaker 1: head coach who's never done it. I mean, he had 1261 01:00:35,360 --> 01:00:38,600 Speaker 1: Brett Farve, he had Aaron Rodgers, he's had Dak Prescott. 1262 01:00:39,120 --> 01:00:41,000 Speaker 1: These guys have been chucking it. It's what they do. 1263 01:00:41,560 --> 01:00:43,800 Speaker 1: And so that ninety million dollars, I don't think Jerry's 1264 01:00:43,800 --> 01:00:47,320 Speaker 1: going to see a full return on that investment. And 1265 01:00:48,520 --> 01:00:51,120 Speaker 1: that's kind of a shame because you and I know 1266 01:00:51,240 --> 01:00:53,479 Speaker 1: how it goes. It goes back to the play. People 1267 01:00:53,480 --> 01:00:59,840 Speaker 1: get mad at the player with he got this big deal. 1268 01:01:00,160 --> 01:01:02,760 Speaker 1: Look he just got his money and quit, and that's, 1269 01:01:02,840 --> 01:01:04,920 Speaker 1: like you said, that's completely unfair. I mean, there's a 1270 01:01:05,000 --> 01:01:07,919 Speaker 1: lot of examples out there. Hopefully this offensive line will 1271 01:01:07,920 --> 01:01:10,720 Speaker 1: be able to be able to withstand this long season, 1272 01:01:10,760 --> 01:01:12,480 Speaker 1: They'll be able to stay healthy. That should be able 1273 01:01:12,480 --> 01:01:14,360 Speaker 1: to help him out. But like you said, I mean, 1274 01:01:14,400 --> 01:01:17,000 Speaker 1: they're gonna pile on him just because his contract was 1275 01:01:17,040 --> 01:01:18,720 Speaker 1: so high, and they're gonna expect him to be able 1276 01:01:18,720 --> 01:01:20,760 Speaker 1: to do this and that each and every down. But 1277 01:01:20,840 --> 01:01:22,560 Speaker 1: when you don't get the opportunities and at the end 1278 01:01:22,560 --> 01:01:24,200 Speaker 1: of the year you're only rushing for eight hundred and 1279 01:01:24,200 --> 01:01:26,760 Speaker 1: seven hundred yards, people are gonna dog you out for it. 1280 01:01:26,800 --> 01:01:28,240 Speaker 1: And then they're gonna come around, Oh, he needs to 1281 01:01:28,280 --> 01:01:29,720 Speaker 1: get a paid cut or just that, and the third 1282 01:01:29,800 --> 01:01:32,720 Speaker 1: needs to happen. It's just the way the game, I guess. 1283 01:01:33,680 --> 01:01:36,240 Speaker 1: And also, and I don't know how you feel, but 1284 01:01:36,400 --> 01:01:39,000 Speaker 1: I feel that Kellen Moore gets away from the run 1285 01:01:39,080 --> 01:01:41,640 Speaker 1: game too quickly. The one time where I felt he 1286 01:01:41,800 --> 01:01:43,680 Speaker 1: didn't get away from the run quickly and they ended 1287 01:01:43,760 --> 01:01:45,600 Speaker 1: up coming back and you saw winning the game was Atlanta. 1288 01:01:45,960 --> 01:01:47,800 Speaker 1: Now they were down in the game, but he kept 1289 01:01:47,840 --> 01:01:51,240 Speaker 1: running the ball, and that, to me is something I 1290 01:01:51,360 --> 01:01:53,760 Speaker 1: would like to see him as as an offensive play 1291 01:01:53,800 --> 01:01:57,160 Speaker 1: caller improve upon, which, hey, man, down ten doesn't mean 1292 01:01:57,240 --> 01:01:59,080 Speaker 1: you have to give up on the run. Down fourteen 1293 01:01:59,480 --> 01:02:01,360 Speaker 1: does not mean you just have to give up on 1294 01:02:01,480 --> 01:02:04,680 Speaker 1: the run. If you've got a special running back. And 1295 01:02:04,760 --> 01:02:07,840 Speaker 1: I do think Ezekiel it's a special play. Ye don't 1296 01:02:07,960 --> 01:02:09,920 Speaker 1: just give up on him. They need to start to 1297 01:02:10,160 --> 01:02:14,240 Speaker 1: utilize the special player more in my opinion, because if 1298 01:02:14,360 --> 01:02:17,240 Speaker 1: Ezekiel Elliott is providing you the ability that you know 1299 01:02:17,360 --> 01:02:18,720 Speaker 1: you can hit him in the past game and he 1300 01:02:18,760 --> 01:02:21,080 Speaker 1: can hit up the middle, then you truly can get 1301 01:02:21,160 --> 01:02:23,840 Speaker 1: something more out of your offensive weapons on the outside. 1302 01:02:24,680 --> 01:02:26,360 Speaker 1: And it's and it was a headscrash to me that 1303 01:02:26,440 --> 01:02:29,640 Speaker 1: you would think after Dak went down with his gruesome 1304 01:02:29,680 --> 01:02:32,640 Speaker 1: injury that we would lean we would lean on Ezekiel 1305 01:02:32,680 --> 01:02:35,040 Speaker 1: Elliott to kind of beat that bell cow get us 1306 01:02:35,080 --> 01:02:37,720 Speaker 1: back in contention. And with Andy Dalton there, I mean 1307 01:02:37,880 --> 01:02:39,840 Speaker 1: we still slaying that thing. We were still throwing that 1308 01:02:39,920 --> 01:02:42,320 Speaker 1: thing all over the yard. And it just goes to 1309 01:02:42,400 --> 01:02:45,240 Speaker 1: show you that, you know, that's what the philosophy is 1310 01:02:45,480 --> 01:02:47,840 Speaker 1: of this offensive coordinator. It's look, I'm here to chuck 1311 01:02:47,920 --> 01:02:49,640 Speaker 1: this ball. I'm here to sling this ball all over 1312 01:02:49,720 --> 01:02:51,800 Speaker 1: the place. This is maddened. This is maddened for him. 1313 01:02:51,840 --> 01:02:54,600 Speaker 1: And hopefully he learned and he'll get back to more 1314 01:02:54,600 --> 01:02:57,400 Speaker 1: of a balanced structure. But I don't see it happen. 1315 01:02:57,640 --> 01:02:59,520 Speaker 1: I see him still chucking that thing, especially when he 1316 01:02:59,560 --> 01:03:01,880 Speaker 1: gets Dak back. He's look at look at my guys back. 1317 01:03:01,960 --> 01:03:03,520 Speaker 1: Let me show you what he can do. And I 1318 01:03:03,560 --> 01:03:05,520 Speaker 1: can see us throwing the ball forty to fifty times 1319 01:03:05,560 --> 01:03:08,120 Speaker 1: a game. I can see what happening in him. And 1320 01:03:08,240 --> 01:03:13,200 Speaker 1: what I'll be interested to see is will Ezekiel Elliott 1321 01:03:13,280 --> 01:03:16,160 Speaker 1: step up and say something. We saw that happen in 1322 01:03:16,240 --> 01:03:20,000 Speaker 1: Ohio State his last season. They ended up losing the 1323 01:03:20,040 --> 01:03:22,160 Speaker 1: football game and he's basically came out and called out 1324 01:03:22,160 --> 01:03:24,320 Speaker 1: the coaches. I didn't get the ball enough. He took 1325 01:03:24,400 --> 01:03:27,920 Speaker 1: criticism from Buckeye Nation. But the next game they gave 1326 01:03:27,960 --> 01:03:29,640 Speaker 1: him the ball and you know what they did. Won. 1327 01:03:29,960 --> 01:03:31,240 Speaker 1: And with the bowl game, you know what they did, 1328 01:03:31,400 --> 01:03:34,320 Speaker 1: they won. You know, they got the coaches once again. 1329 01:03:34,440 --> 01:03:37,000 Speaker 1: They I thought themselves, they didn't think they mean at 1330 01:03:37,040 --> 01:03:39,760 Speaker 1: the time Ohio State was fifteen. They weren't giving fifteen 1331 01:03:39,760 --> 01:03:41,880 Speaker 1: the ball. Give fifteen to ball and you can win 1332 01:03:42,000 --> 01:03:44,480 Speaker 1: some games. And that's what they did. Didn't lose another game. 1333 01:03:44,840 --> 01:03:48,320 Speaker 1: So that, to me, I'm just kind of waiting to 1334 01:03:48,360 --> 01:03:51,480 Speaker 1: see because if you're Ezekiel Ellett, you know too, if 1335 01:03:51,560 --> 01:03:53,800 Speaker 1: you're not getting the ball, then you're not able to 1336 01:03:54,040 --> 01:03:56,560 Speaker 1: put up the numbers. You can't get to the Pro Bowl. 1337 01:03:56,800 --> 01:03:58,480 Speaker 1: You can't. You know, you can't get to where you 1338 01:03:58,520 --> 01:04:00,240 Speaker 1: want to get to if you want to have this really, 1339 01:04:00,280 --> 01:04:04,480 Speaker 1: really legendary career without that ball. So let's see if 1340 01:04:04,520 --> 01:04:07,120 Speaker 1: Ezekiel doesn't get to that point where he says, you're 1341 01:04:07,240 --> 01:04:10,880 Speaker 1: not feeding zeke. This isn't right. And because the way 1342 01:04:10,920 --> 01:04:13,080 Speaker 1: its contracts set, it's not like you can get rid 1343 01:04:13,120 --> 01:04:16,680 Speaker 1: of them. Pay train. You can't. You can't. Zeke Eli's 1344 01:04:16,720 --> 01:04:18,720 Speaker 1: gonna be here another two three years, two to three 1345 01:04:18,800 --> 01:04:21,160 Speaker 1: years minim because of the way the deal set up. 1346 01:04:21,280 --> 01:04:23,280 Speaker 1: So they've got to find some peace and harmony to 1347 01:04:23,400 --> 01:04:26,240 Speaker 1: make this thing work. Man. They got to if we 1348 01:04:26,280 --> 01:04:27,960 Speaker 1: want to be the team that we think we can be, 1349 01:04:28,120 --> 01:04:29,440 Speaker 1: if we want to be that team that can win 1350 01:04:29,520 --> 01:04:31,440 Speaker 1: a division, go far in the playoffs, and do that 1351 01:04:31,520 --> 01:04:33,600 Speaker 1: set in the third, we need to be that balanced. 1352 01:04:33,800 --> 01:04:35,680 Speaker 1: I mean we've spoken about the time and time and 1353 01:04:35,720 --> 01:04:38,560 Speaker 1: get on the show. The balanced teams they take it 1354 01:04:38,600 --> 01:04:40,840 Speaker 1: to the next level. The teams that are one dimensional, 1355 01:04:41,280 --> 01:04:43,520 Speaker 1: there's always that opposing team out there that'll figure it 1356 01:04:43,600 --> 01:04:45,880 Speaker 1: out and they'll shut that one thing you do well down. 1357 01:04:46,160 --> 01:04:48,200 Speaker 1: You have to have a backup plan. And right now, 1358 01:04:48,640 --> 01:04:50,440 Speaker 1: we passed the ball all over the yard and we're 1359 01:04:50,440 --> 01:04:52,480 Speaker 1: not able to run it. The teams once they shut 1360 01:04:52,560 --> 01:04:55,000 Speaker 1: down that pass. We've seen teams kind of just piled 1361 01:04:55,040 --> 01:04:56,680 Speaker 1: on us. So we got to get back to that 1362 01:04:56,800 --> 01:05:00,040 Speaker 1: more balanced approach. And hopefully that's what Kellen Moore and 1363 01:05:00,080 --> 01:05:02,880 Speaker 1: Mike McCarthy are brewing up in the lab, because I'm 1364 01:05:02,920 --> 01:05:04,479 Speaker 1: telling you right now, the one in forty to fifty 1365 01:05:04,520 --> 01:05:05,960 Speaker 1: times a game, they're just gonna get you in a 1366 01:05:06,000 --> 01:05:07,800 Speaker 1: long deficit. And we're gonna be doing a lot of 1367 01:05:07,840 --> 01:05:10,600 Speaker 1: empty calories and the empty stats, and that's gonna relate 1368 01:05:10,640 --> 01:05:12,080 Speaker 1: to seven and nine because there ain't no more what 1369 01:05:12,200 --> 01:05:14,400 Speaker 1: there's no no, you can't be seventy nine anymore. Seven 1370 01:05:14,440 --> 01:05:16,360 Speaker 1: and was it seven and ten or something like that. 1371 01:05:16,480 --> 01:05:19,320 Speaker 1: So yeah, so I don't I don't see it happening. 1372 01:05:19,440 --> 01:05:22,360 Speaker 1: So we'll see, we'll see what happens. I know seven 1373 01:05:22,440 --> 01:05:25,040 Speaker 1: and ten means we'll be talking about who's gonna be 1374 01:05:25,080 --> 01:05:30,400 Speaker 1: the head coach. Can't get away with let's go six 1375 01:05:30,520 --> 01:05:34,880 Speaker 1: and ten and seven. Seven, you don't get you're not 1376 01:05:34,960 --> 01:05:39,080 Speaker 1: gonna see year three? Many running back? They no running 1377 01:05:39,120 --> 01:05:44,080 Speaker 1: back after that? Yeah? Right, Hey man, this is this, 1378 01:05:44,320 --> 01:05:46,760 Speaker 1: This hour keeps flying and we've gone a little bit 1379 01:05:46,800 --> 01:05:49,320 Speaker 1: over the hour. So thanks to our producer Chris Bean 1380 01:05:49,440 --> 01:05:53,440 Speaker 1: for handling everything and keeping this going straight. Um all right, hey, 1381 01:05:53,480 --> 01:05:56,400 Speaker 1: we miss our guy Danny mccraig, Daniel before we'll be 1382 01:05:56,520 --> 01:05:59,240 Speaker 1: back here. He's got some pet projects things he's working 1383 01:05:59,280 --> 01:06:01,920 Speaker 1: on right now. But for Barry Church, number forty two 1384 01:06:01,920 --> 01:06:04,400 Speaker 1: of the Dallas Cowboys' new he Scruggs were checking out 1385 01:06:04,480 --> 01:06:06,520 Speaker 1: the players as we'll talk to you next Friday, eleven 1386 01:06:06,640 --> 01:06:10,200 Speaker 1: thirty central. All right, that's Texas time. Eleven thirty central 1387 01:06:10,360 --> 01:06:12,600 Speaker 1: North Texas time. All right, take care, everybody, do well. 1388 01:06:13,600 --> 01:06:16,680 Speaker 1: The real forty two you heard it. This has been 1389 01:06:16,720 --> 01:06:19,880 Speaker 1: a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com and the Dallas 1390 01:06:19,920 --> 01:06:21,120 Speaker 1: Cowboys Football Club