1 00:00:00,320 --> 00:00:01,040 Speaker 1: Are you guys doing. 2 00:00:01,040 --> 00:00:03,960 Speaker 2: This is Steven Tuller, eleven year NFL veteran founder of 3 00:00:04,000 --> 00:00:07,760 Speaker 2: Circles's Coffee entrepreneur. This is NFL Second Ass Podcast. 4 00:00:18,720 --> 00:00:21,400 Speaker 3: Thanks for tuning in. I'm Peanut Tillman. And this guy 5 00:00:21,480 --> 00:00:23,560 Speaker 3: right over here to my left, that's Roman Harper and 6 00:00:23,600 --> 00:00:29,200 Speaker 3: this is the NFL Player's Second Acts Podcast. Uh well, yeah, man, 7 00:00:29,240 --> 00:00:30,400 Speaker 3: I appreciate it. Number one. 8 00:00:30,600 --> 00:00:34,000 Speaker 4: All of our followers, viewers, please continue to follow. Tell 9 00:00:34,040 --> 00:00:35,800 Speaker 4: a friend, to tell a friend to do what pnut 10 00:00:36,040 --> 00:00:38,560 Speaker 4: Tell a friend. Thank you, give us a five star rating, 11 00:00:38,600 --> 00:00:41,920 Speaker 4: give us a review. Also, kick that click that follow button. 12 00:00:41,920 --> 00:00:44,600 Speaker 4: Wherever you pick up your podcast, whether it's Apple, Apple 13 00:00:44,760 --> 00:00:49,040 Speaker 4: Podcast or iHeartRadio, please continue to look in, click tell somebody. 14 00:00:49,120 --> 00:00:49,400 Speaker 3: Let's go. 15 00:00:49,479 --> 00:00:53,000 Speaker 4: Peanut, I'm really excited about this. This next guest, he's 16 00:00:53,000 --> 00:00:56,320 Speaker 4: an entrepreneur, done so many great things, great football player 17 00:00:56,640 --> 00:00:59,360 Speaker 4: really want to and what he's drinking right now is 18 00:00:59,440 --> 00:01:00,760 Speaker 4: absolutely amazing. 19 00:01:00,880 --> 00:01:02,960 Speaker 3: I'm mindploying. I'm gonna let you read the bio. Do 20 00:01:02,960 --> 00:01:03,760 Speaker 3: you want to read the bio? 21 00:01:03,840 --> 00:01:03,960 Speaker 1: You know? 22 00:01:04,000 --> 00:01:05,959 Speaker 3: I just resume? Okay, all right, I got it because 23 00:01:05,959 --> 00:01:08,959 Speaker 3: you read everything else, all right, so shake it. This 24 00:01:09,040 --> 00:01:11,959 Speaker 3: gentleman played eleven years in the NFL for the Titans, 25 00:01:12,000 --> 00:01:15,400 Speaker 3: the Lions, and the Eagles. In twenty twelve and thirteen, 26 00:01:15,480 --> 00:01:18,480 Speaker 3: he made the NFL Top one Hunter List. He received 27 00:01:18,480 --> 00:01:21,480 Speaker 3: the Walter Peate Man in the Year nomination Community Service 28 00:01:21,480 --> 00:01:25,240 Speaker 3: Award four times during his career. Now he's a philanthropist, author, 29 00:01:25,280 --> 00:01:30,080 Speaker 3: and entrepreneur. Ladies and gentlemen, please welcome Steven Tullock to 30 00:01:30,160 --> 00:01:30,440 Speaker 3: the show. 31 00:01:31,200 --> 00:01:34,679 Speaker 1: Thank you again. I want to irriterate man. 32 00:01:34,720 --> 00:01:37,000 Speaker 2: How proud I am of you guys. Has transitioned very 33 00:01:37,000 --> 00:01:39,959 Speaker 2: well into your podcast? Phenomenal follow very well. I wish 34 00:01:40,000 --> 00:01:41,600 Speaker 2: you guys much success. Did you guys keep going on 35 00:01:41,640 --> 00:01:43,280 Speaker 2: your journey? So don''t get that out there. 36 00:01:43,240 --> 00:01:44,759 Speaker 3: For you know what, man, let me just check this out. 37 00:01:44,800 --> 00:01:46,520 Speaker 4: Let me just say the first Christian cuss word of 38 00:01:46,520 --> 00:01:47,000 Speaker 4: the podcast. 39 00:01:47,080 --> 00:01:51,480 Speaker 3: Damn right. Appreciate that. Thank you for that. Appreciate thank you, 40 00:01:51,600 --> 00:01:56,600 Speaker 3: Thank you all right. Man. So you turned thirty nine January, 41 00:01:56,720 --> 00:01:59,880 Speaker 3: the first number one. What is that like? Bringing it? 42 00:02:00,080 --> 00:02:02,160 Speaker 3: I was thirty nine? Treating you all right? 43 00:02:02,160 --> 00:02:05,400 Speaker 4: P Nut is much older than that. He's older than that. 44 00:02:06,160 --> 00:02:08,840 Speaker 4: How is that treating you? How's it all going? I 45 00:02:08,880 --> 00:02:09,800 Speaker 4: think it's a blessing, man. 46 00:02:09,840 --> 00:02:11,760 Speaker 1: I mean to be born New Year's Day, Yes. 47 00:02:11,680 --> 00:02:14,000 Speaker 2: To start the year off for the new birthday, Yeah, 48 00:02:14,080 --> 00:02:17,880 Speaker 2: I think it's you know, it's a good feeling. Obviously, Capricorns, 49 00:02:17,880 --> 00:02:19,840 Speaker 2: we work hard. We're hard working with go get us. 50 00:02:20,080 --> 00:02:22,359 Speaker 2: So New Year's Day is a blessing to be born 51 00:02:22,400 --> 00:02:23,679 Speaker 2: in that day and to be able to start the 52 00:02:23,760 --> 00:02:24,520 Speaker 2: year off from the right track. 53 00:02:24,560 --> 00:02:26,720 Speaker 4: All right, what are you looking forward to in forty, Like, 54 00:02:26,760 --> 00:02:28,320 Speaker 4: it's forty going to be different for you? 55 00:02:28,560 --> 00:02:28,800 Speaker 1: Yeah? 56 00:02:28,840 --> 00:02:30,640 Speaker 2: Man, I think forty for me number one, you know, 57 00:02:30,840 --> 00:02:33,560 Speaker 2: settling down, family, kids, the whole nine. But uh, I 58 00:02:33,600 --> 00:02:34,680 Speaker 2: think just the transition. 59 00:02:34,760 --> 00:02:34,880 Speaker 3: Man. 60 00:02:35,040 --> 00:02:37,400 Speaker 2: I've retired about six seven years now, so to be 61 00:02:37,400 --> 00:02:39,839 Speaker 2: able to transition, to fully transition out of the game. 62 00:02:39,840 --> 00:02:40,880 Speaker 2: You know how it is when you leave the game, 63 00:02:40,919 --> 00:02:42,400 Speaker 2: takes a while to kind of get your feet under you. 64 00:02:42,440 --> 00:02:44,720 Speaker 2: But it feels good now to be a mentor to 65 00:02:44,800 --> 00:02:46,720 Speaker 2: younger players, you know, working with the NFL, the young 66 00:02:46,760 --> 00:02:49,080 Speaker 2: guys that are transitioning from the NFL, being a voice 67 00:02:49,080 --> 00:02:51,360 Speaker 2: for them, a role model for these young guys. So 68 00:02:51,520 --> 00:02:53,880 Speaker 2: I take on that role. I pride myself in that role, 69 00:02:53,960 --> 00:02:56,760 Speaker 2: leading by example, So just being more of a leader. Yeah, 70 00:02:56,840 --> 00:02:57,600 Speaker 2: my family guy. 71 00:02:57,600 --> 00:02:59,680 Speaker 3: For Suah So at thirty nine, are you happy with 72 00:02:59,760 --> 00:03:02,400 Speaker 3: where life is and where you are at thirty nine? 73 00:03:02,440 --> 00:03:02,840 Speaker 3: Right now? 74 00:03:03,280 --> 00:03:04,919 Speaker 2: You know, as a fourth round draft pick to play 75 00:03:04,960 --> 00:03:07,120 Speaker 2: eleven years and to be able to transition into real 76 00:03:07,240 --> 00:03:10,480 Speaker 2: estate and into coffee business, it's it's phenomenal. I think 77 00:03:10,760 --> 00:03:12,720 Speaker 2: just going to these entrepreneurship courses during the course of 78 00:03:12,760 --> 00:03:15,160 Speaker 2: my career helped prepare me for life after football and 79 00:03:15,200 --> 00:03:16,920 Speaker 2: put me in a good lane to be able to 80 00:03:16,919 --> 00:03:18,120 Speaker 2: now be able to pay it back forth to you. 81 00:03:18,800 --> 00:03:20,840 Speaker 3: So we were talking, we were talking to the commissioner 82 00:03:20,840 --> 00:03:23,919 Speaker 3: about all the programs that the NFL has to offer, 83 00:03:24,360 --> 00:03:27,200 Speaker 3: and since you talked about the entrepreneurship like, what are 84 00:03:27,440 --> 00:03:29,839 Speaker 3: what's one of the best things that you received from 85 00:03:29,840 --> 00:03:32,000 Speaker 3: that entrepreneurship entrepreneurship program. 86 00:03:32,000 --> 00:03:33,919 Speaker 2: I'll say in two thousand and six and I got drafted, 87 00:03:33,919 --> 00:03:35,600 Speaker 2: I had a mentor by the name of David Thornton. 88 00:03:36,000 --> 00:03:38,360 Speaker 2: I came from from the Colts over It was a 89 00:03:38,400 --> 00:03:40,200 Speaker 2: free agent. He took me on his wings, so you 90 00:03:40,200 --> 00:03:41,480 Speaker 2: can go one to two routs him. Boy, you can 91 00:03:41,520 --> 00:03:43,000 Speaker 2: follow that guy over there the X Y Z or 92 00:03:43,000 --> 00:03:45,000 Speaker 2: you can follow me. So I followed him and went 93 00:03:45,040 --> 00:03:47,360 Speaker 2: to Goldsborough to his hometown, showed me how to run 94 00:03:47,360 --> 00:03:49,520 Speaker 2: his foundation, how to be a pro on and off 95 00:03:49,560 --> 00:03:51,560 Speaker 2: the field, to take care of my body, and talk 96 00:03:51,600 --> 00:03:54,760 Speaker 2: to me about entrepreneurship program NFL provides. So I went 97 00:03:54,800 --> 00:03:57,560 Speaker 2: to Stafford University as a second year player. I went 98 00:03:57,560 --> 00:03:59,600 Speaker 2: to the Stephen raw School of Business as a fourth 99 00:03:59,680 --> 00:04:02,080 Speaker 2: or fifth your player want to University of Miami business 100 00:04:02,120 --> 00:04:04,840 Speaker 2: going and offseason, So just a networking and being those rules. 101 00:04:04,920 --> 00:04:07,720 Speaker 2: Those people helped me propel my mindset to understand that 102 00:04:07,720 --> 00:04:10,440 Speaker 2: there is life after football, right and I have a kickstarter, 103 00:04:10,600 --> 00:04:12,160 Speaker 2: you know, to be able to pare for that. So 104 00:04:12,720 --> 00:04:15,440 Speaker 2: having that mentorship really prepared me for life after football. 105 00:04:15,480 --> 00:04:17,479 Speaker 2: And I just thank David a lot that's for pulling 106 00:04:17,480 --> 00:04:19,080 Speaker 2: me under his wings and leading me in the right direction. 107 00:04:19,720 --> 00:04:22,320 Speaker 4: I love the fact that you know, most of us 108 00:04:22,560 --> 00:04:25,320 Speaker 4: when we're playing football, we're just playing football, all right, 109 00:04:25,400 --> 00:04:27,120 Speaker 4: But you literally took advantage. 110 00:04:26,760 --> 00:04:28,720 Speaker 3: Of all these opportunities that the offered. 111 00:04:28,800 --> 00:04:31,240 Speaker 4: Absolutely and you've taken that and you put into into 112 00:04:31,279 --> 00:04:33,520 Speaker 4: your everyday life. So because you maybe talk to us 113 00:04:33,520 --> 00:04:35,440 Speaker 4: a little bit about that part of it, Yeah, what 114 00:04:35,480 --> 00:04:36,400 Speaker 4: you're doing right now, I. 115 00:04:36,400 --> 00:04:38,160 Speaker 2: Think it's important, man, just to have the opportunity to 116 00:04:38,200 --> 00:04:40,400 Speaker 2: even play in the game. I'm just thankful to have 117 00:04:40,480 --> 00:04:42,280 Speaker 2: the privilege to even get drafted and play as long 118 00:04:42,360 --> 00:04:45,120 Speaker 2: as I did. A good mentor mind's got me Eric Thomas, 119 00:04:45,160 --> 00:04:47,480 Speaker 2: he's a hip hop preacher. He's at my right hand guy, 120 00:04:47,480 --> 00:04:49,200 Speaker 2: and he's really guiding me out throughout the course of 121 00:04:49,200 --> 00:04:51,840 Speaker 2: my career, just pairing mentally of how bad you want 122 00:04:51,880 --> 00:04:54,479 Speaker 2: to succeed. And know my mom being a single parent, 123 00:04:54,560 --> 00:04:57,240 Speaker 2: you know, it taught me a lot about adversity, going 124 00:04:57,240 --> 00:04:59,320 Speaker 2: through ups and downs and just making her problem was 125 00:04:59,360 --> 00:05:01,840 Speaker 2: my number one goal and I live with that chip 126 00:05:01,880 --> 00:05:03,599 Speaker 2: every day in my life. Is to keep making myself 127 00:05:03,600 --> 00:05:05,720 Speaker 2: proud of my mom, proud of my family. So just 128 00:05:05,760 --> 00:05:08,280 Speaker 2: taking advantage of every opportunity that I have. I think 129 00:05:08,440 --> 00:05:11,200 Speaker 2: it's big for me. I started got into the coffee 130 00:05:11,279 --> 00:05:14,039 Speaker 2: business and got into real estate and and just like 131 00:05:14,040 --> 00:05:16,320 Speaker 2: I said, going to these entrepreneurship courses really helped my 132 00:05:16,360 --> 00:05:19,560 Speaker 2: mindset and understanding my weaknesses and where I need help 133 00:05:19,600 --> 00:05:21,760 Speaker 2: and strength and consulting so being able to have a 134 00:05:21,760 --> 00:05:23,479 Speaker 2: great team. It's not about me, it's the team people 135 00:05:23,520 --> 00:05:26,800 Speaker 2: around me and my publicists, my you know, my consultants, 136 00:05:27,080 --> 00:05:29,279 Speaker 2: everyone who who I pay to kind of help guide 137 00:05:29,320 --> 00:05:31,960 Speaker 2: in the right direction to help mitigate my risk. Really 138 00:05:31,960 --> 00:05:33,000 Speaker 2: helped put me in a good position. 139 00:05:34,000 --> 00:05:38,280 Speaker 4: Yeah, all the all the correct words mitigating risks and 140 00:05:40,600 --> 00:05:43,159 Speaker 4: the smartest guy in the room continue to have people 141 00:05:43,200 --> 00:05:47,960 Speaker 4: find my blind spots. There's all great business minded thoughts 142 00:05:48,080 --> 00:05:52,840 Speaker 4: and directions. So great job on you talking about overachieving 143 00:05:53,080 --> 00:05:58,520 Speaker 4: or accomplishing certain things. What about your beloved Detroit lines 144 00:05:58,560 --> 00:06:00,760 Speaker 4: this year? Could we maybe talk about them? 145 00:06:00,839 --> 00:06:01,080 Speaker 1: Yeah? 146 00:06:01,160 --> 00:06:02,159 Speaker 3: I mean the good? 147 00:06:02,360 --> 00:06:05,279 Speaker 4: Okay, all right, we're probably a couple of weeks away 148 00:06:05,279 --> 00:06:07,520 Speaker 4: from the bad, but let's talk about the good. 149 00:06:07,560 --> 00:06:08,560 Speaker 1: You were there for. 150 00:06:09,360 --> 00:06:11,760 Speaker 4: In Ford Field the night of the playoffs once again. 151 00:06:11,800 --> 00:06:14,240 Speaker 4: I saw it on Instagram. Yeah, and so you look 152 00:06:14,279 --> 00:06:16,000 Speaker 4: like you're having a great time throwing T shirts with 153 00:06:16,120 --> 00:06:19,960 Speaker 4: golden and what was it like in the building that day? 154 00:06:20,120 --> 00:06:21,960 Speaker 4: Understand that you've been to the playoffs a couple of 155 00:06:21,960 --> 00:06:25,000 Speaker 4: times yourself personally with Detroit. They actually won this game 156 00:06:25,040 --> 00:06:26,480 Speaker 4: the first time in many years. 157 00:06:26,480 --> 00:06:28,960 Speaker 2: I mean, you guys know man Owen sixteen, the worst 158 00:06:28,960 --> 00:06:34,200 Speaker 2: franchise in NFL history. You know the coach Schwartz when 159 00:06:34,200 --> 00:06:36,400 Speaker 2: he came over as as a head coach for the Lions, 160 00:06:36,400 --> 00:06:38,960 Speaker 2: he brought me over here in free agency, and uh, 161 00:06:39,000 --> 00:06:41,080 Speaker 2: you know, we talked about changing the culture in Detroit, 162 00:06:41,120 --> 00:06:43,120 Speaker 2: and I think the Ford family has done phenomenal job 163 00:06:43,160 --> 00:06:45,880 Speaker 2: of just bringing the right people in, understanding the pitfalls 164 00:06:45,880 --> 00:06:48,320 Speaker 2: with certain coaches getting rid of that, bringing the right 165 00:06:48,360 --> 00:06:51,280 Speaker 2: guy a former player like Dan Campbell. I think mister 166 00:06:51,279 --> 00:06:52,840 Speaker 2: Holmes is doing a great job as well, just kind 167 00:06:52,839 --> 00:06:54,680 Speaker 2: of putting the piece in place. I mean, for the 168 00:06:54,720 --> 00:06:56,719 Speaker 2: first time, I think we all can agree that Detroit 169 00:06:56,760 --> 00:06:59,680 Speaker 2: has some kind of relevancy. Yeah, you know and that 170 00:07:00,160 --> 00:07:01,560 Speaker 2: and obviously you know you played Chicago. 171 00:07:01,880 --> 00:07:04,080 Speaker 3: I was rooting for him though I was rooting for Detroit. 172 00:07:04,160 --> 00:07:06,039 Speaker 3: I promise you I was. I was rooting for him 173 00:07:06,400 --> 00:07:11,440 Speaker 3: against we weren't going nowhere. I love the story. I 174 00:07:11,480 --> 00:07:14,240 Speaker 3: love what they were doing. Is do you think Dan 175 00:07:14,320 --> 00:07:15,960 Speaker 3: Campbell is the guy you would love to have played for? 176 00:07:16,120 --> 00:07:16,560 Speaker 3: I think so. 177 00:07:16,640 --> 00:07:18,520 Speaker 2: I think well Number one, call Well to me is 178 00:07:18,560 --> 00:07:19,960 Speaker 2: one of the best coach I've ever been around. Coach 179 00:07:20,000 --> 00:07:23,160 Speaker 2: Calwell as a great, phenomenal, great man, great leadership. I 180 00:07:23,160 --> 00:07:25,720 Speaker 2: think just you know Campbell, he played the game, so 181 00:07:25,720 --> 00:07:28,280 Speaker 2: it's a little bit different. It speaks the same message. 182 00:07:28,560 --> 00:07:30,480 Speaker 2: So I think you could tell the way these guys 183 00:07:30,480 --> 00:07:33,360 Speaker 2: played from previous season going one and seven and then 184 00:07:33,400 --> 00:07:35,400 Speaker 2: turning back around and win the last games, beating Green 185 00:07:35,400 --> 00:07:35,640 Speaker 2: Bay to. 186 00:07:35,640 --> 00:07:36,440 Speaker 1: Keep my playoffs. 187 00:07:36,440 --> 00:07:38,360 Speaker 2: So you could tell when the team believes in the coaching, 188 00:07:38,360 --> 00:07:40,720 Speaker 2: plays the way they play, you got something. And it 189 00:07:40,840 --> 00:07:42,880 Speaker 2: showed this year when they opened up the season against 190 00:07:42,920 --> 00:07:45,120 Speaker 2: Kansas City, how they won that game and how the 191 00:07:45,160 --> 00:07:47,760 Speaker 2: season ended. So I think the Detroit in a great spot. 192 00:07:48,040 --> 00:07:49,400 Speaker 2: You know, obviously we would like that outening to be 193 00:07:49,440 --> 00:07:51,440 Speaker 2: a little bit different NFC Championship game and we'll be 194 00:07:51,440 --> 00:07:53,200 Speaker 2: talking about a little bit different, but the lines being 195 00:07:53,240 --> 00:07:54,800 Speaker 2: the super Bowl. But nevertheless, I think they had a 196 00:07:54,840 --> 00:07:56,960 Speaker 2: great season and they definitely have something to build on going. 197 00:07:56,960 --> 00:07:59,600 Speaker 3: All right, tell me this, So should he kick the 198 00:07:59,640 --> 00:08:00,000 Speaker 3: field goal? 199 00:08:00,480 --> 00:08:00,680 Speaker 4: Uh? 200 00:08:00,800 --> 00:08:04,560 Speaker 2: To be quite honest with you, Uh, I think we. 201 00:08:04,520 --> 00:08:06,880 Speaker 1: All agree maybe he should have. I think it's a science. 202 00:08:07,880 --> 00:08:10,280 Speaker 2: But he's been a gambler all season, you know, so 203 00:08:10,360 --> 00:08:12,880 Speaker 2: it worked, It's worked for him, so unfortunately it kind 204 00:08:12,880 --> 00:08:15,000 Speaker 2: of backfired on him. But I think for the most part, 205 00:08:15,080 --> 00:08:16,760 Speaker 2: you know, you know, you got to live by you 206 00:08:16,800 --> 00:08:18,720 Speaker 2: die by it, and so I think, uh, he got 207 00:08:18,800 --> 00:08:20,679 Speaker 2: him to that point. It just shows where the teams 208 00:08:20,680 --> 00:08:23,280 Speaker 2: that mentally, you know, now and next year has to 209 00:08:23,280 --> 00:08:24,239 Speaker 2: be that that next step. 210 00:08:24,240 --> 00:08:26,760 Speaker 4: And you know, since we're talking about the playoffs, let's uh, 211 00:08:26,920 --> 00:08:30,360 Speaker 4: let's let's maybe rehash this wound for you. I believe 212 00:08:30,360 --> 00:08:32,280 Speaker 4: you guys went to the playoffs in two thousand and 213 00:08:33,000 --> 00:08:34,840 Speaker 4: twelve and played against the New Orleans Saints. 214 00:08:36,480 --> 00:08:39,360 Speaker 3: I think you guys lost pretty bad. Yeah, we did. 215 00:08:39,800 --> 00:08:40,960 Speaker 1: That was a tough loss. 216 00:08:41,000 --> 00:08:41,200 Speaker 3: Man. 217 00:08:41,400 --> 00:08:44,480 Speaker 2: We went to your hometown, went to your city. It 218 00:08:44,480 --> 00:08:46,680 Speaker 2: was a great game, Drew Brees. We had you guys 219 00:08:46,679 --> 00:08:48,960 Speaker 2: the first half, yeah, and then spros kind of got 220 00:08:49,000 --> 00:08:50,199 Speaker 2: got going and in the. 221 00:08:50,160 --> 00:08:53,600 Speaker 3: Office, you know, was a little ship. 222 00:08:54,160 --> 00:08:56,640 Speaker 1: Obviously. You know, Drew is phenomenal quarterback. You have a 223 00:08:56,640 --> 00:08:59,480 Speaker 1: great organization, So kudos to you. 224 00:08:59,559 --> 00:09:01,800 Speaker 3: But you know, was it good though, just to take 225 00:09:02,520 --> 00:09:03,160 Speaker 3: to the playoff? 226 00:09:03,360 --> 00:09:06,599 Speaker 1: I think it was great, be quite honest. It was sources. 227 00:09:07,040 --> 00:09:09,520 Speaker 2: You know, obviously my first year in Detroit and to 228 00:09:09,559 --> 00:09:11,079 Speaker 2: be able this team had to been in a playoffs 229 00:09:11,080 --> 00:09:13,240 Speaker 2: since ninety three, you know, so just to get there, 230 00:09:13,240 --> 00:09:15,680 Speaker 2: I think it was a great step for us. And 231 00:09:15,720 --> 00:09:17,520 Speaker 2: I think, you know, we kind of propelled the team 232 00:09:17,559 --> 00:09:19,679 Speaker 2: into where they're at today to take that next step. 233 00:09:19,760 --> 00:09:21,960 Speaker 2: So I think it's training in the right direction. We 234 00:09:22,080 --> 00:09:23,160 Speaker 2: just got to keep building on that. 235 00:09:23,760 --> 00:09:27,600 Speaker 3: So you got drafted by the Titans. At some point 236 00:09:27,640 --> 00:09:29,880 Speaker 3: you go and you play for the Lions right when 237 00:09:29,920 --> 00:09:32,160 Speaker 3: it was time to retire. Why did you pick the 238 00:09:32,240 --> 00:09:34,040 Speaker 3: Lions with the Titans? 239 00:09:34,400 --> 00:09:36,760 Speaker 2: I just love Detroit, you know, I think the Titans. 240 00:09:36,920 --> 00:09:38,920 Speaker 2: I love the Titans as well. Right, you know how 241 00:09:38,920 --> 00:09:41,160 Speaker 2: it goes, right when a team drafts you, you know 242 00:09:41,200 --> 00:09:43,679 Speaker 2: they other teams seek more value in you than your 243 00:09:43,720 --> 00:09:46,079 Speaker 2: own team sometimes, right, we all know how it goes, right. 244 00:09:46,040 --> 00:09:46,640 Speaker 3: That's true. 245 00:09:46,679 --> 00:09:48,640 Speaker 2: So so to feel appreciated when you leave, you know, 246 00:09:48,679 --> 00:09:50,199 Speaker 2: you leave and so many teams are reaching out to 247 00:09:50,240 --> 00:09:52,640 Speaker 2: you because they want your services. There's no other feeling, 248 00:09:52,679 --> 00:09:54,760 Speaker 2: especially myself being a fourth round draft pick who left 249 00:09:54,760 --> 00:09:56,800 Speaker 2: school early as a junior. You know, to finally you 250 00:09:56,800 --> 00:09:59,000 Speaker 2: have that feeling of somebody that wants you. It's a 251 00:09:59,000 --> 00:10:01,560 Speaker 2: good feeling. So the level of respect of the Ford 252 00:10:01,559 --> 00:10:03,880 Speaker 2: families gave me when I was there, the organization top 253 00:10:03,920 --> 00:10:04,560 Speaker 2: the bottom, it is. 254 00:10:04,600 --> 00:10:06,280 Speaker 1: Just de choice is a special place. 255 00:10:06,480 --> 00:10:08,439 Speaker 2: And uh, you know, to have the opportunity to play 256 00:10:08,480 --> 00:10:10,640 Speaker 2: for such a one offul organization and to have the 257 00:10:10,640 --> 00:10:12,800 Speaker 2: opportunity to come back and Lennon know, I'm retiring form 258 00:10:12,800 --> 00:10:14,720 Speaker 2: the open doors to have that press conference. For me, 259 00:10:15,120 --> 00:10:17,440 Speaker 2: spokes speaks to the value of who the organization is 260 00:10:17,480 --> 00:10:19,360 Speaker 2: and what they stand for, so that they have no 261 00:10:19,920 --> 00:10:21,800 Speaker 2: great feeling to come back and just retire. 262 00:10:21,880 --> 00:10:22,160 Speaker 1: Line. 263 00:10:22,360 --> 00:10:26,040 Speaker 4: Yeah, Coach Caldwell calls you a man's man, a man's man. 264 00:10:26,200 --> 00:10:29,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, what is the ultimate compliment? Like for me? 265 00:10:29,040 --> 00:10:31,400 Speaker 4: I have my own idea of what the ultimate compliment 266 00:10:31,440 --> 00:10:33,840 Speaker 4: as a as a football player, as a former player, Yeah, 267 00:10:33,880 --> 00:10:37,040 Speaker 4: what is the ultimate compliment for you? When they say 268 00:10:37,040 --> 00:10:39,880 Speaker 4: Steven Tullick dash. 269 00:10:39,520 --> 00:10:40,040 Speaker 3: What is it? 270 00:10:40,520 --> 00:10:43,400 Speaker 1: I think being named the captain? Right? You know? 271 00:10:43,480 --> 00:10:45,000 Speaker 2: I think when you go to the off season and 272 00:10:45,040 --> 00:10:47,760 Speaker 2: you're practicing during training camp and you're just leading by example. 273 00:10:47,800 --> 00:10:49,560 Speaker 2: You're not even thinking the second nations, You're just doing 274 00:10:49,559 --> 00:10:52,160 Speaker 2: what you do, and then your peers around you off you. 275 00:10:52,200 --> 00:10:54,400 Speaker 2: Two guys see you as that guy. So we send 276 00:10:54,440 --> 00:10:56,120 Speaker 2: the auditorium and they pass that sheet around, who do 277 00:10:56,120 --> 00:10:58,079 Speaker 2: you want to announce your captain? And you come back 278 00:10:58,080 --> 00:10:59,679 Speaker 2: and at the practice and coach says, we got your 279 00:10:59,679 --> 00:11:01,840 Speaker 2: captain here for you. I mean to be to be 280 00:11:01,920 --> 00:11:04,280 Speaker 2: that guy that the team depends on the sees that 281 00:11:04,640 --> 00:11:06,600 Speaker 2: you can lead them is probably one of the greatest 282 00:11:06,640 --> 00:11:09,080 Speaker 2: feelings of my career that can ever besides getting paid 283 00:11:09,120 --> 00:11:11,560 Speaker 2: and get the contract, having my peers look at me 284 00:11:11,600 --> 00:11:12,880 Speaker 2: and value me as a guy that they can look 285 00:11:12,960 --> 00:11:14,440 Speaker 2: up to as a role model to make decisions and 286 00:11:14,480 --> 00:11:16,360 Speaker 2: lead the team by example. So we're in that sea 287 00:11:16,400 --> 00:11:18,559 Speaker 2: of my chest and walking off the coin toss every 288 00:11:18,600 --> 00:11:20,160 Speaker 2: week was one of the special ones in my career. 289 00:11:20,240 --> 00:11:23,440 Speaker 4: All right, that's beautiful. I would not have anticipated that. 290 00:11:24,120 --> 00:11:24,400 Speaker 3: For me. 291 00:11:24,480 --> 00:11:27,839 Speaker 4: It was like just being called a pro. A pro 292 00:11:28,440 --> 00:11:30,680 Speaker 4: like that means I study right, I do the right things. 293 00:11:30,720 --> 00:11:32,880 Speaker 4: That was always something I took wholeheartedly. 294 00:11:32,880 --> 00:11:33,520 Speaker 1: How about you, peen? 295 00:11:33,600 --> 00:11:36,800 Speaker 3: Ut was? I think mine was really just work ethic. Yeah, 296 00:11:37,080 --> 00:11:40,559 Speaker 3: I think my teammates appreciated how I I worked. I 297 00:11:40,600 --> 00:11:42,240 Speaker 3: think I don't think it'll ever say I was a leader. 298 00:11:42,280 --> 00:11:44,520 Speaker 3: I think I just played too much. I was yeah, yeah, 299 00:11:44,600 --> 00:11:47,320 Speaker 3: I was joking all the time. I was a silent professional, 300 00:11:47,320 --> 00:11:48,800 Speaker 3: but I was jokes. I had jokes. 301 00:11:48,800 --> 00:11:51,800 Speaker 1: But you made a lot of players. You know, watch 302 00:11:51,800 --> 00:11:53,720 Speaker 1: Sports Center, You knocking the ball out and you call 303 00:11:54,000 --> 00:11:55,880 Speaker 1: turn over like I did it. 304 00:11:57,120 --> 00:11:59,560 Speaker 4: He's right, he cannot be a captain because he plays 305 00:11:59,559 --> 00:12:00,000 Speaker 4: way too much. 306 00:12:00,200 --> 00:12:04,160 Speaker 3: He's always I'm serious field can't say something and not 307 00:12:04,280 --> 00:12:04,560 Speaker 3: say it. 308 00:12:04,720 --> 00:12:06,880 Speaker 4: He has to say it. We were in a very 309 00:12:06,880 --> 00:12:10,679 Speaker 4: serious moment right there, and you like that is you 310 00:12:10,840 --> 00:12:13,679 Speaker 4: ruined the whole thing from coach because you just had 311 00:12:13,720 --> 00:12:15,040 Speaker 4: to say that. You just couldn't hold it. 312 00:12:15,240 --> 00:12:17,160 Speaker 3: I did, yeah, and so yes, that was that. 313 00:12:17,200 --> 00:12:17,640 Speaker 1: All right. 314 00:12:18,280 --> 00:12:20,800 Speaker 3: Let's let's switch gears a little bit. We're talking about 315 00:12:20,800 --> 00:12:21,120 Speaker 3: the highs. 316 00:12:21,200 --> 00:12:22,920 Speaker 4: Let's talk about a little bit of a low because 317 00:12:23,400 --> 00:12:25,840 Speaker 4: I think it's interesting. This probably happens four to five 318 00:12:25,920 --> 00:12:29,479 Speaker 4: times a year, from high school to pros. 319 00:12:29,920 --> 00:12:34,600 Speaker 3: You know, somebody gets hurt. Yeah, while celebrating. 320 00:12:34,720 --> 00:12:39,200 Speaker 4: So you tour in a CEO versus Green Bay during 321 00:12:39,200 --> 00:12:41,679 Speaker 4: the celebration after a sac looked like you were doing 322 00:12:41,760 --> 00:12:46,760 Speaker 4: the discount double check versus Ann Rogers a little ah. 323 00:12:45,880 --> 00:12:46,480 Speaker 3: And you're landing. 324 00:12:46,480 --> 00:12:49,800 Speaker 1: You're like, ah, oh man, it just went down, crazy man. 325 00:12:50,320 --> 00:12:53,199 Speaker 2: And what's crazy is right, I've started one hundred and 326 00:12:53,200 --> 00:12:55,480 Speaker 2: some played one hundred and thirty some games straight something 327 00:12:55,480 --> 00:12:57,520 Speaker 2: before the game they announced on TV on the big screen, 328 00:12:57,920 --> 00:13:02,679 Speaker 2: even you one hundred and thirty. But we're off to 329 00:13:02,760 --> 00:13:04,760 Speaker 2: a great start, man, We're like, what three and one 330 00:13:04,840 --> 00:13:05,720 Speaker 2: going into green Bay? 331 00:13:05,840 --> 00:13:06,240 Speaker 1: Right? You know? 332 00:13:06,280 --> 00:13:08,080 Speaker 2: Green Bay has always been a little brother us for 333 00:13:08,080 --> 00:13:10,760 Speaker 2: a long time. You know, you're always talking crappy, you know, 334 00:13:11,000 --> 00:13:17,319 Speaker 2: he's just yeah and yeah, yeah I love Aaron, but man, yeah, 335 00:13:17,360 --> 00:13:21,080 Speaker 2: but crazy freak freak freak situation. Right, jumped up, came down, 336 00:13:21,120 --> 00:13:24,560 Speaker 2: and it's just, you know, unbelievable. Man, It's something. It's 337 00:13:24,559 --> 00:13:27,600 Speaker 2: something like everything slowed down. I've never missed a game. 338 00:13:27,679 --> 00:13:30,040 Speaker 2: I started pretty much every game in my career, and 339 00:13:30,080 --> 00:13:33,200 Speaker 2: then the next week my guy Lamar Lamar Houston. 340 00:13:33,360 --> 00:13:35,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, but you guys did the same thing. 341 00:13:35,240 --> 00:13:38,360 Speaker 2: It's like, yeah, back to back weeks, right, and something 342 00:13:38,400 --> 00:13:39,280 Speaker 2: that's never happened before. 343 00:13:39,320 --> 00:13:42,720 Speaker 3: But uh yeah he did his in Detroit. 344 00:13:43,800 --> 00:13:48,600 Speaker 2: In Chicago versus figure like fourth quarter after. 345 00:13:47,760 --> 00:13:48,719 Speaker 1: Yeah, same thing. 346 00:13:48,880 --> 00:13:52,720 Speaker 2: Right, So rehabs missed all of fourteen pretty much three games, 347 00:13:52,760 --> 00:13:54,959 Speaker 2: missed all the fourteen, which is crazy, went to the playoffs, 348 00:13:55,000 --> 00:13:58,320 Speaker 2: we lost to Dallas, and then had another year. They 349 00:13:58,320 --> 00:14:00,360 Speaker 2: brought me back and you know, fished my career Philly. 350 00:14:00,400 --> 00:14:02,640 Speaker 2: But yeah, one of those things that first time I 351 00:14:02,640 --> 00:14:04,400 Speaker 2: care have ever had adversity. I've ever missed a game, 352 00:14:04,440 --> 00:14:07,240 Speaker 2: ever missed practice. So it was something that I'll prepare 353 00:14:07,280 --> 00:14:10,559 Speaker 2: for mentally, because I you know, I prepare like a 354 00:14:10,600 --> 00:14:12,360 Speaker 2: pro week in, the week out. So I just handled 355 00:14:12,400 --> 00:14:15,080 Speaker 2: it like anything else, but one of those moments that 356 00:14:15,200 --> 00:14:16,680 Speaker 2: you know, it is what it is and you just 357 00:14:16,760 --> 00:14:19,640 Speaker 2: kind of bounce back and rehab and finished My career, 358 00:14:19,760 --> 00:14:22,000 Speaker 2: did eleven two more years after that and got eleven 359 00:14:22,040 --> 00:14:22,360 Speaker 2: years in. 360 00:14:22,480 --> 00:14:25,720 Speaker 4: So are you the guy now? That's like, Hey, celebrate 361 00:14:27,040 --> 00:14:29,080 Speaker 4: a little bit differently people. 362 00:14:29,440 --> 00:14:30,800 Speaker 1: I think. I think at the end of the day, man, 363 00:14:31,120 --> 00:14:32,760 Speaker 1: you got to enjoy the game. Man. You know, you 364 00:14:32,800 --> 00:14:34,160 Speaker 1: know much energy goes into this thing. 365 00:14:34,200 --> 00:14:38,320 Speaker 2: Man, how much work goes in from chiropractice and massage, therapist, acupuncture, 366 00:14:38,600 --> 00:14:41,200 Speaker 2: hot up, cold tub, just out to the game, you 367 00:14:41,280 --> 00:14:43,280 Speaker 2: know what I'm saying, and to make a play. I mean, 368 00:14:43,320 --> 00:14:45,440 Speaker 2: it's it's like in the world's watching, it's it's an 369 00:14:45,520 --> 00:14:48,040 Speaker 2: unbelievable feeling, right. So I just think, you know, in 370 00:14:48,080 --> 00:14:50,640 Speaker 2: my situation, I think more of a freak freak situation, you. 371 00:14:50,640 --> 00:14:51,200 Speaker 1: Know what I'm saying. 372 00:14:51,240 --> 00:14:52,920 Speaker 2: But other than that, man, I think you guys should 373 00:14:52,920 --> 00:14:55,720 Speaker 2: definitely enjoy the game, Celebrate the hard work you put 374 00:14:55,720 --> 00:14:58,440 Speaker 2: in there obviously your marketing or your own entity, you know, 375 00:14:58,640 --> 00:15:00,040 Speaker 2: show that you know what I'm saying, it's it. 376 00:15:00,160 --> 00:15:01,520 Speaker 1: Unfortunately, in my situation. 377 00:15:01,800 --> 00:15:06,400 Speaker 3: I got what thirteen? You got what the eleven? Eleven? 378 00:15:06,600 --> 00:15:06,840 Speaker 1: Yep? 379 00:15:07,560 --> 00:15:09,760 Speaker 3: I know you asked a lot of ball in this question, 380 00:15:09,840 --> 00:15:11,120 Speaker 3: but I'm saying it in one way. If you could 381 00:15:11,120 --> 00:15:13,840 Speaker 3: sum up your career, like, how would you sum it 382 00:15:13,920 --> 00:15:16,960 Speaker 3: up in one word? Your entire eleven years? 383 00:15:17,120 --> 00:15:21,320 Speaker 2: My entire eleven year is one word, I'll say, uh, resilient. 384 00:15:21,640 --> 00:15:23,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'd say resilient. 385 00:15:23,200 --> 00:15:25,400 Speaker 2: I think coming in as a fourth rounder, being a 386 00:15:25,400 --> 00:15:27,040 Speaker 2: special teams guy, and you guys know you got to 387 00:15:27,040 --> 00:15:27,960 Speaker 2: stay ready. 388 00:15:27,840 --> 00:15:29,360 Speaker 1: So you don't got to get ready exactly. 389 00:15:29,360 --> 00:15:32,440 Speaker 2: The guy goes down versus Kansas City, playing prest homes 390 00:15:32,480 --> 00:15:35,640 Speaker 2: and cony gazalees in Kansas City. And from that moment on, 391 00:15:35,720 --> 00:15:37,560 Speaker 2: I started wrestling my curerly up to my last year. 392 00:15:37,560 --> 00:15:38,160 Speaker 3: And what year was that? 393 00:15:38,320 --> 00:15:38,560 Speaker 1: For you? 394 00:15:38,720 --> 00:15:40,440 Speaker 3: This was year two, year two, okay, so. 395 00:15:40,480 --> 00:15:42,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, second game of year two. It became and started 396 00:15:42,200 --> 00:15:43,000 Speaker 1: alway the year ten. 397 00:15:43,520 --> 00:15:45,880 Speaker 2: And for me, man, you know, that moment was like 398 00:15:46,600 --> 00:15:49,520 Speaker 2: an unbelievable situation because you know what what you put 399 00:15:49,560 --> 00:15:52,120 Speaker 2: on films, what their value at. I mean, there's no okay, coach, 400 00:15:52,120 --> 00:15:54,200 Speaker 2: I'll do it again next week. Now this is your opportunity, 401 00:15:54,360 --> 00:15:56,600 Speaker 2: So you study your playbook you know what cover one is, 402 00:15:56,600 --> 00:15:57,880 Speaker 2: you know your zone, you know where to drop, what 403 00:15:58,200 --> 00:16:00,720 Speaker 2: the reads are, and so I'll always prepare like a pro, 404 00:16:00,840 --> 00:16:02,960 Speaker 2: like you know I'm gonna play, and so having that 405 00:16:03,040 --> 00:16:05,560 Speaker 2: mindset understanding, when the opportunity came, I was ready for 406 00:16:05,600 --> 00:16:08,000 Speaker 2: it and never looked back. And uh, you know, ten 407 00:16:08,040 --> 00:16:10,680 Speaker 2: eleven years, nine years later, I was able to have 408 00:16:10,720 --> 00:16:13,880 Speaker 2: a strong career and do eleven years. But as you know, man, 409 00:16:13,920 --> 00:16:15,800 Speaker 2: the opportunity come knock and you got to take advantage 410 00:16:15,840 --> 00:16:17,240 Speaker 2: of it. Because there's so many guys that are number 411 00:16:17,240 --> 00:16:18,560 Speaker 2: two of them in three on the depth chart that 412 00:16:18,640 --> 00:16:20,880 Speaker 2: deserve to be starters, but they're just in a bad 413 00:16:20,920 --> 00:16:22,960 Speaker 2: spot when it comes to positions. So to have the 414 00:16:22,960 --> 00:16:25,640 Speaker 2: opportunity present itself, I never looked back, you know. 415 00:16:25,720 --> 00:16:29,680 Speaker 4: I just think it's amazing that just because I was, 416 00:16:29,960 --> 00:16:32,080 Speaker 4: my story is a little bit different, right, we all 417 00:16:32,280 --> 00:16:35,200 Speaker 4: have them different. So I started early, and I started 418 00:16:35,240 --> 00:16:39,280 Speaker 4: as a rookie. But I don't think people understand how 419 00:16:39,280 --> 00:16:41,960 Speaker 4: hard it is to not be an everyday starter in 420 00:16:41,960 --> 00:16:44,960 Speaker 4: the NFL, to be a special teams guy and then 421 00:16:45,040 --> 00:16:47,040 Speaker 4: if somebody goes down, like you. 422 00:16:47,640 --> 00:16:49,840 Speaker 3: Got to be able to do both and you can't 423 00:16:49,920 --> 00:16:52,840 Speaker 3: drop off camp. I don't think you. 424 00:16:53,080 --> 00:16:54,240 Speaker 1: Understand that you cannot. 425 00:16:54,320 --> 00:16:58,480 Speaker 4: That is the hardest thing is to prepare all week long, 426 00:16:58,600 --> 00:17:00,920 Speaker 4: not to know that you're not going to play right, 427 00:17:01,000 --> 00:17:03,360 Speaker 4: then be called to duty and then. 428 00:17:03,320 --> 00:17:04,080 Speaker 3: Not mess it up. 429 00:17:05,000 --> 00:17:07,199 Speaker 4: And so I want to give you your flowers now 430 00:17:07,240 --> 00:17:09,320 Speaker 4: because I didn't know that's how you got your first start. 431 00:17:09,440 --> 00:17:12,399 Speaker 2: That was it special teams guy, an opportunity, and then 432 00:17:12,440 --> 00:17:14,800 Speaker 2: that was it. I became a startup middle linebacker for 433 00:17:14,880 --> 00:17:16,680 Speaker 2: the Titans with Keith Bullet and throw it next to me. 434 00:17:16,760 --> 00:17:19,359 Speaker 2: Then went to Detroit with Levy and those guys and 435 00:17:19,400 --> 00:17:21,520 Speaker 2: with the field. You know, it's crazy how that works. Man. 436 00:17:21,520 --> 00:17:23,280 Speaker 2: I'm telling you, man, everything happened for a reason. But 437 00:17:23,600 --> 00:17:26,359 Speaker 2: it's the mindset of being an underdog and just preparing 438 00:17:26,400 --> 00:17:28,159 Speaker 2: like you're a pro and making sure you're ready when 439 00:17:28,480 --> 00:17:30,600 Speaker 2: your number is called. And like I said, having great 440 00:17:30,640 --> 00:17:32,679 Speaker 2: mentorship during the course of my career really helped my 441 00:17:32,760 --> 00:17:35,359 Speaker 2: mindset and be ready to you to prepare like I 442 00:17:35,480 --> 00:17:37,480 Speaker 2: was going to play. And like you said, man, I 443 00:17:37,480 --> 00:17:39,840 Speaker 2: did special teams and it was a starter until I 444 00:17:39,840 --> 00:17:41,359 Speaker 2: became a third three down player and then you know, 445 00:17:41,359 --> 00:17:43,480 Speaker 2: I kind of get out special teams. But I think 446 00:17:43,520 --> 00:17:45,359 Speaker 2: any guy that comes in late rounds, you got to 447 00:17:45,400 --> 00:17:47,160 Speaker 2: have your mind right understanding. Either you were the guy 448 00:17:47,200 --> 00:17:49,760 Speaker 2: in college, but you got to humble yourself. And when 449 00:17:49,800 --> 00:17:51,280 Speaker 2: coach we had that meeting, you know how it is 450 00:17:51,320 --> 00:17:53,400 Speaker 2: on Wednesday, and we watched everybody's in that room watching 451 00:17:53,400 --> 00:17:55,000 Speaker 2: special team. They want to see who that doll's want 452 00:17:55,040 --> 00:17:57,160 Speaker 2: to be. You know they're watching. Okay, Coach, we got 453 00:17:57,160 --> 00:17:59,200 Speaker 2: to put him in. Coach, he's playing on special teams. 454 00:17:59,240 --> 00:18:00,720 Speaker 2: Now you're vouching for you guy. You see what he 455 00:18:00,760 --> 00:18:02,479 Speaker 2: can do, and you want to see him doing. That's 456 00:18:02,520 --> 00:18:03,399 Speaker 2: kind of how it was for me. A lot of 457 00:18:03,440 --> 00:18:05,879 Speaker 2: guys wanted to see me play. It's an opportunity present himself. 458 00:18:05,920 --> 00:18:06,280 Speaker 1: I was ready. 459 00:18:06,359 --> 00:18:10,119 Speaker 3: But I don't think people realize that a special teams player, 460 00:18:10,720 --> 00:18:13,159 Speaker 3: you're still a star in the National Football League A 461 00:18:14,000 --> 00:18:17,800 Speaker 3: Like it's not offensive defense, but you are still a starter. 462 00:18:17,960 --> 00:18:21,840 Speaker 3: If you're a kick return kick you're for it, Like, yeah, 463 00:18:21,880 --> 00:18:23,920 Speaker 3: you are a starter in the league. I don't think 464 00:18:23,960 --> 00:18:26,720 Speaker 3: people realize that value. I didn't value well, I didn't 465 00:18:26,760 --> 00:18:27,960 Speaker 3: think like that at first. 466 00:18:29,119 --> 00:18:31,320 Speaker 1: I fel like he was just like God, yeah, but 467 00:18:31,400 --> 00:18:31,680 Speaker 1: I didn't. 468 00:18:31,720 --> 00:18:33,359 Speaker 3: I didn't think like that until the coach said, and 469 00:18:33,400 --> 00:18:36,240 Speaker 3: I was like, well, dang, he you can. You can 470 00:18:36,240 --> 00:18:38,400 Speaker 3: get paid, you can pay double digit years, you can 471 00:18:38,520 --> 00:18:41,160 Speaker 3: go to Pro Bowls, you can you know, like yeah, 472 00:18:41,240 --> 00:18:44,280 Speaker 3: this you can eat off of the sposal team's gig, right. 473 00:18:45,040 --> 00:18:48,040 Speaker 3: I was. I started all thirteen of my years I was, 474 00:18:48,200 --> 00:18:51,040 Speaker 3: I was thirty. I started all thirteen years old sposal 475 00:18:51,080 --> 00:18:53,080 Speaker 3: teams and on defense like I. 476 00:18:52,960 --> 00:18:56,240 Speaker 4: Was, you know, it was like a specialist. He was like, 477 00:18:56,720 --> 00:18:59,320 Speaker 4: that's like what he did. Oh yeah out there. 478 00:18:59,840 --> 00:19:00,720 Speaker 3: I'm like, bro, how do. 479 00:19:00,760 --> 00:19:02,399 Speaker 1: You do this? Because we were in the corner. 480 00:19:02,800 --> 00:19:04,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, And I'm like, how do you do this? 481 00:19:04,359 --> 00:19:06,960 Speaker 4: Because I was never a special teams guy. And for 482 00:19:07,040 --> 00:19:09,280 Speaker 4: those that don't know, if you're not a special teams guy, 483 00:19:09,640 --> 00:19:11,360 Speaker 4: you don't get to become a special teams guy. 484 00:19:11,400 --> 00:19:13,200 Speaker 3: Like you're eight nine, you have to leave. 485 00:19:14,680 --> 00:19:21,560 Speaker 2: You you the start, but you can't go back. 486 00:19:22,280 --> 00:19:23,280 Speaker 4: You don't go back. 487 00:19:23,600 --> 00:19:26,120 Speaker 1: You're trying to steal. He's like, I'm away, still be one, 488 00:19:26,520 --> 00:19:29,920 Speaker 1: gonna be a mentor. You don't get it back kicking 489 00:19:30,000 --> 00:19:32,320 Speaker 1: back like a guard positions. 490 00:19:32,400 --> 00:19:37,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a problem. People don't understand. That is really 491 00:19:37,760 --> 00:19:40,280 Speaker 3: so because I never did it. Like I'm looking at 492 00:19:41,000 --> 00:19:41,760 Speaker 3: I don't understand. 493 00:19:41,880 --> 00:19:44,000 Speaker 1: You're the guy came in after trying to start the 494 00:19:44,040 --> 00:19:45,680 Speaker 1: guy you watch it. 495 00:19:47,480 --> 00:19:49,080 Speaker 3: I'm like, Peter, how you do this? 496 00:19:49,160 --> 00:19:49,320 Speaker 2: Though? 497 00:19:49,480 --> 00:19:53,480 Speaker 3: It's like how I never came off. I've just been doing. 498 00:19:53,400 --> 00:19:55,600 Speaker 2: You know, back in the days they have player performance, right, 499 00:19:55,680 --> 00:19:57,040 Speaker 2: so now I was an extra snap. 500 00:19:57,200 --> 00:20:00,040 Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, yeah, that's my fourth round guy. Right. You 501 00:20:00,040 --> 00:20:03,200 Speaker 3: know what I'm saying that money, that money matters. We'll 502 00:20:03,240 --> 00:20:04,200 Speaker 3: be back in a minute. 503 00:20:07,040 --> 00:20:10,919 Speaker 4: Let's talk about this transition period and like, yes, and 504 00:20:11,160 --> 00:20:13,000 Speaker 4: the whole thing we do with this whole podcast talk 505 00:20:13,080 --> 00:20:16,439 Speaker 4: about our second act and yours has been successful, and 506 00:20:16,520 --> 00:20:20,119 Speaker 4: so let's talk about the period of like, okay, you 507 00:20:20,200 --> 00:20:24,119 Speaker 4: talked about following your mentor the Thornton guy and said, okay, 508 00:20:25,200 --> 00:20:26,480 Speaker 4: second year, I go and do. 509 00:20:26,720 --> 00:20:30,480 Speaker 1: What entrepreneurial on Stanford University. 510 00:20:30,280 --> 00:20:35,440 Speaker 4: Stanford University, and the reasoning behind it was prepare. 511 00:20:35,560 --> 00:20:37,680 Speaker 2: I mean all the fourth throne draft pick. I wasn't 512 00:20:37,720 --> 00:20:39,680 Speaker 2: starting at the times right before I became a starter, 513 00:20:39,880 --> 00:20:42,520 Speaker 2: and he talked him sis. He told it, man, you 514 00:20:42,520 --> 00:20:44,280 Speaker 2: know you got a little signing bonus. She made just 515 00:20:44,359 --> 00:20:48,119 Speaker 2: hundred million dollars. He said, start preparing. Understand how money works, right, 516 00:20:48,119 --> 00:20:50,879 Speaker 2: I understand taxes, understand your family's going to ask you 517 00:20:50,920 --> 00:20:53,920 Speaker 2: for stuff. Understand this all now, so when you hopefully 518 00:20:53,960 --> 00:20:55,480 Speaker 2: one day you do get the money, you understand how 519 00:20:55,520 --> 00:20:57,679 Speaker 2: it works. And so, man, I really thank him a 520 00:20:57,680 --> 00:20:59,600 Speaker 2: lot for because I didn't have financial literacy going up. 521 00:21:00,040 --> 00:21:01,959 Speaker 2: This person never make money in my family, you know. 522 00:21:02,000 --> 00:21:04,360 Speaker 2: So I'm teaching my family how finances work and say 523 00:21:04,400 --> 00:21:06,359 Speaker 2: we can't just give it because you think I have it. 524 00:21:06,400 --> 00:21:07,280 Speaker 1: You know, it's. 525 00:21:07,119 --> 00:21:11,000 Speaker 2: About longevity and growth and reinvesting and keep it so happen, 526 00:21:11,160 --> 00:21:13,720 Speaker 2: you know. So this teaching that financial literacy in my 527 00:21:13,720 --> 00:21:16,360 Speaker 2: family was very important. To go on to Stanford University 528 00:21:16,400 --> 00:21:19,280 Speaker 2: and understanding how money works and networking and being in 529 00:21:19,320 --> 00:21:22,480 Speaker 2: position really helped me understand that, you know what their's 530 00:21:22,520 --> 00:21:24,720 Speaker 2: life at the football and paid for now. And so 531 00:21:24,880 --> 00:21:26,840 Speaker 2: just going through those courses, I'm telling you, man, like 532 00:21:27,000 --> 00:21:28,639 Speaker 2: without those courses, I don't know what I would be 533 00:21:29,000 --> 00:21:31,440 Speaker 2: where I would be at now, just from a financial standpoint. 534 00:21:31,440 --> 00:21:34,160 Speaker 2: As a guy that's retired, I know so many guys 535 00:21:34,200 --> 00:21:36,359 Speaker 2: that have left the game and just in disarray, right, 536 00:21:36,480 --> 00:21:38,359 Speaker 2: you know who's made tens of millions more than me, 537 00:21:38,440 --> 00:21:42,879 Speaker 2: who they ain't really doing good? Suicidal thoughts, depression, anxiety. 538 00:21:43,359 --> 00:21:45,400 Speaker 2: So I work with the company called Pro Athletes Community 539 00:21:45,400 --> 00:21:49,080 Speaker 2: Caleb throwing hills with the Spurs, but we help players transition, 540 00:21:49,800 --> 00:21:52,080 Speaker 2: work with the Mammi Dolphins in the offseason and just 541 00:21:52,240 --> 00:21:54,919 Speaker 2: currenting former players during the off scene as well, just 542 00:21:54,960 --> 00:21:56,560 Speaker 2: so you know they come to the coffee shop. We 543 00:21:56,560 --> 00:21:58,639 Speaker 2: talk about life, about transitioning, how to be a pro 544 00:21:58,720 --> 00:22:01,560 Speaker 2: on and off the field, of paying for now. So 545 00:22:01,640 --> 00:22:03,760 Speaker 2: when it hits you, you know you're not want to completely, 546 00:22:03,960 --> 00:22:06,600 Speaker 2: You're not doing the headlights. So I think men for us, 547 00:22:06,640 --> 00:22:11,280 Speaker 2: my entrepreneurship is football. It teaches you consistency, discipline, accountability. 548 00:22:11,680 --> 00:22:13,600 Speaker 2: Right when you keep those three things in your mind, 549 00:22:13,680 --> 00:22:15,639 Speaker 2: you live that every day you're going to be successful. 550 00:22:15,880 --> 00:22:18,000 Speaker 2: You don't know yourself accountable. So I think just for 551 00:22:18,040 --> 00:22:19,800 Speaker 2: guys that are leaving the game or playing the game, 552 00:22:19,920 --> 00:22:22,560 Speaker 2: understanding that you have to prepare non for life after 553 00:22:22,560 --> 00:22:25,199 Speaker 2: football because you just never know what's gonna end. Just 554 00:22:25,200 --> 00:22:27,000 Speaker 2: being that voice for them is it's important for me. 555 00:22:27,720 --> 00:22:30,400 Speaker 3: So I see you, you got a little little drinking 556 00:22:30,480 --> 00:22:34,480 Speaker 3: drink and yeah, can you list all of the ventures 557 00:22:34,640 --> 00:22:36,720 Speaker 3: that you're currently doing right now? 558 00:22:36,760 --> 00:22:37,800 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I mean. 559 00:22:37,680 --> 00:22:40,920 Speaker 2: It's pretty straightforward. I got into commercial real estate. Well, 560 00:22:41,000 --> 00:22:43,400 Speaker 2: my foundation number one is kind of what I love 561 00:22:43,400 --> 00:22:44,920 Speaker 2: to do, giving back, helping people. 562 00:22:45,320 --> 00:22:46,440 Speaker 3: You foundation, Steven. 563 00:22:46,200 --> 00:22:48,639 Speaker 2: Tullick Foundation, helping what do they do so we up 564 00:22:48,680 --> 00:22:52,080 Speaker 2: under previous kids, a woman with breast cancer, foster care kids, 565 00:22:54,080 --> 00:22:57,600 Speaker 2: kids with the adverse situations. I've been doing that since 566 00:22:58,000 --> 00:23:00,879 Speaker 2: I was in college NC State the Community Service a 567 00:23:00,920 --> 00:23:02,359 Speaker 2: Year award. Like I just I grew up in a 568 00:23:02,440 --> 00:23:04,480 Speaker 2: nursing home. My mom was a private nurse. So growing 569 00:23:04,560 --> 00:23:06,119 Speaker 2: up as a kid, I used to push patients around 570 00:23:06,160 --> 00:23:08,399 Speaker 2: to bingo and to get the hair done and you know, 571 00:23:08,520 --> 00:23:09,359 Speaker 2: always serving people. 572 00:23:09,400 --> 00:23:12,240 Speaker 1: My mom was serve bingo all five. 573 00:23:14,080 --> 00:23:15,640 Speaker 3: In there. 574 00:23:16,000 --> 00:23:17,920 Speaker 2: But just having an opportunity to have a mom to 575 00:23:17,960 --> 00:23:19,840 Speaker 2: understand that we didn't have much growing up. But giving 576 00:23:19,920 --> 00:23:22,560 Speaker 2: is more than receiving, and so having a platform them 577 00:23:22,680 --> 00:23:25,679 Speaker 2: NFL shield Prepared propelled me to understand that, you know, 578 00:23:26,040 --> 00:23:28,000 Speaker 2: I'm in a situation where I can bring awareness a 579 00:23:28,040 --> 00:23:30,879 Speaker 2: lot of things. So having that foundation for me was huge. 580 00:23:30,880 --> 00:23:34,880 Speaker 2: So my foundation number one is key. I started into 581 00:23:34,880 --> 00:23:38,040 Speaker 2: commercial real estate twenty seventeen. I started buying property and 582 00:23:38,040 --> 00:23:40,040 Speaker 2: fall out of their Florida about some building, some land, 583 00:23:40,560 --> 00:23:42,520 Speaker 2: and I came to put this idea of opening up 584 00:23:42,520 --> 00:23:44,200 Speaker 2: a coffee shop and drive through, which is the first 585 00:23:44,200 --> 00:23:46,880 Speaker 2: one in downtown for Lauderdale. I went to coffee school 586 00:23:46,920 --> 00:23:50,159 Speaker 2: in Seattle. Seattle breaks the Academy on Seattle, learned coffee. 587 00:23:50,160 --> 00:23:52,040 Speaker 2: I hired the teacher as my consultant. I flew back 588 00:23:52,040 --> 00:23:54,239 Speaker 2: to Fort Lauderdale. I'll fire him every two weeks from 589 00:23:54,240 --> 00:23:56,439 Speaker 2: Seattle on Southwest to stay at my house. And I 590 00:23:56,480 --> 00:23:58,920 Speaker 2: created this brand called Circle House Coffee. I want to 591 00:23:58,960 --> 00:24:01,000 Speaker 2: go Daddy dot com for hundred and seven dollars about 592 00:24:01,000 --> 00:24:03,000 Speaker 2: the name Circle House Coffee for one hundred and seven, 593 00:24:03,359 --> 00:24:06,159 Speaker 2: went to Instagram, LinkedIn. Twitter took the handlers for it, 594 00:24:06,520 --> 00:24:08,400 Speaker 2: and then I went ahead and you know a trademark 595 00:24:08,600 --> 00:24:10,960 Speaker 2: and got my lawyers involved and created the logo in 596 00:24:11,000 --> 00:24:13,639 Speaker 2: the brand and we created the brand twenty nineteen, so 597 00:24:13,640 --> 00:24:15,560 Speaker 2: it be five years. March ninth, it'll be five years 598 00:24:15,560 --> 00:24:18,320 Speaker 2: in business. But since then, you know, we've just been growing, 599 00:24:18,640 --> 00:24:20,800 Speaker 2: you know, work with NFL teams like the Unami Dolphins, 600 00:24:21,080 --> 00:24:25,160 Speaker 2: Detroit Lions were working on the NFL some other teams 601 00:24:25,160 --> 00:24:27,600 Speaker 2: that were working on just kind of you know, distribute 602 00:24:27,600 --> 00:24:30,199 Speaker 2: our coffee. So this is our first uh you know 603 00:24:30,400 --> 00:24:32,680 Speaker 2: coffee in it can it's our natural cobrew put that. 604 00:24:32,840 --> 00:24:33,240 Speaker 3: Put that on. 605 00:24:33,760 --> 00:24:36,919 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's our natural col brew. Something that I've always 606 00:24:37,000 --> 00:24:40,919 Speaker 2: envisioned having. It talks about our mission, our story, thanking 607 00:24:40,960 --> 00:24:42,680 Speaker 2: the fans and the community for being a part of our 608 00:24:42,680 --> 00:24:44,800 Speaker 2: mission to help give back one sip at a time. 609 00:24:45,119 --> 00:24:47,000 Speaker 2: So everything that we do when we sell these cans, 610 00:24:47,040 --> 00:24:49,879 Speaker 2: we take a part of the portions and get them 611 00:24:49,880 --> 00:24:52,000 Speaker 2: my foundation, which we give at the community. So it's 612 00:24:52,040 --> 00:24:54,040 Speaker 2: not just about coffee just having a great coffee. It's 613 00:24:54,040 --> 00:24:55,640 Speaker 2: about the brand behind and the impact that we're making 614 00:24:55,680 --> 00:24:58,240 Speaker 2: behind coffee. And so I think that's that's our mission, 615 00:24:58,280 --> 00:25:00,320 Speaker 2: is to be able to keep impacting the world. I 616 00:25:00,359 --> 00:25:02,000 Speaker 2: was able to build a school on my mom's hometown 617 00:25:02,000 --> 00:25:05,439 Speaker 2: in Jamaica in twenty seventeen through my foundation for one 618 00:25:05,520 --> 00:25:07,440 Speaker 2: hundred and eighty kids and my mom's home town named 619 00:25:07,440 --> 00:25:10,639 Speaker 2: after my mom, Mercedes be Teller Infant School. So just 620 00:25:10,680 --> 00:25:12,359 Speaker 2: giving back as much as I can, Man, because like 621 00:25:12,359 --> 00:25:14,240 Speaker 2: you said, it's all about our legacy what we leave. 622 00:25:14,680 --> 00:25:16,760 Speaker 2: You're never Denzel watching the set at most, Man, you'll 623 00:25:16,800 --> 00:25:19,200 Speaker 2: never see a U haul behind hers, you know what 624 00:25:19,200 --> 00:25:20,480 Speaker 2: I'm saying. So to be able to give more than 625 00:25:20,520 --> 00:25:23,720 Speaker 2: you receive pluses come in so many forms, and I live. 626 00:25:23,600 --> 00:25:24,280 Speaker 1: By that every day. 627 00:25:24,359 --> 00:25:26,960 Speaker 2: So Circle House Coffees as my as my brand that 628 00:25:26,960 --> 00:25:29,440 Speaker 2: I'm really true to. And in commercial real estate. 629 00:25:29,600 --> 00:25:30,720 Speaker 3: Now why why coffee? 630 00:25:30,760 --> 00:25:30,960 Speaker 1: Though? 631 00:25:31,080 --> 00:25:32,280 Speaker 3: Like have you been drinking coffee? 632 00:25:33,240 --> 00:25:33,600 Speaker 1: As you know? 633 00:25:33,640 --> 00:25:36,080 Speaker 2: And you know football, man, you get that facility, it's 634 00:25:36,080 --> 00:25:39,640 Speaker 2: it's early morning. Yeah, means means right, So you try 635 00:25:39,680 --> 00:25:41,479 Speaker 2: to stay awake, right, So you go in that cafe, 636 00:25:42,000 --> 00:25:44,320 Speaker 2: pour some coffee, you eat them something. See, you're just 637 00:25:44,320 --> 00:25:45,879 Speaker 2: trying to stay glued to the screen. 638 00:25:47,240 --> 00:25:49,320 Speaker 3: Everybody, coffee? 639 00:25:49,960 --> 00:25:52,720 Speaker 1: That was that ingredents? 640 00:25:52,800 --> 00:25:52,960 Speaker 4: Right? 641 00:25:53,200 --> 00:25:54,400 Speaker 1: You have one of your poisons. 642 00:25:54,760 --> 00:25:57,440 Speaker 2: Everybody, I think it's coffee. I'm like, damn, you know what, man, 643 00:25:57,440 --> 00:25:59,359 Speaker 2: it's crazy. I want to be inclusive. You know, I 644 00:25:59,400 --> 00:26:01,879 Speaker 2: don't really see a lot of minority coffee shops. I'm like, 645 00:26:01,880 --> 00:26:03,439 Speaker 2: you know what, man, I'm gonna make a staple on it. 646 00:26:03,480 --> 00:26:05,680 Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. I'm gonna getting the coffee industry. 647 00:26:06,000 --> 00:26:07,760 Speaker 2: You know, I'm an learning number one. I'm gona invest 648 00:26:07,760 --> 00:26:09,800 Speaker 2: my money and I'm on my real estate because I 649 00:26:09,800 --> 00:26:11,320 Speaker 2: know I can grow equity in my real estate. So the 650 00:26:11,320 --> 00:26:13,639 Speaker 2: worst caase there if my coffee venture doesn't work. I 651 00:26:13,640 --> 00:26:15,040 Speaker 2: still w my real estate. I can lease it out 652 00:26:15,040 --> 00:26:17,240 Speaker 2: and make money and be a landlord, right, so I 653 00:26:17,240 --> 00:26:18,679 Speaker 2: own all my properties and stuff like that. 654 00:26:18,760 --> 00:26:21,240 Speaker 1: So I did that. The brand worked out. We're five 655 00:26:21,320 --> 00:26:21,639 Speaker 1: years in. 656 00:26:21,720 --> 00:26:24,760 Speaker 2: We're expanding and hopefully you see this in your in 657 00:26:25,400 --> 00:26:28,199 Speaker 2: North Carolina and the Chicago in your convenience stores here. 658 00:26:28,240 --> 00:26:30,800 Speaker 3: So yeah, so working working at people buy right now. 659 00:26:30,840 --> 00:26:32,320 Speaker 2: So right now you can go to Circle House Coffee 660 00:26:32,359 --> 00:26:36,800 Speaker 2: dot com. You can order launch on our website. Like 661 00:26:36,840 --> 00:26:38,639 Speaker 2: I said, we're gonna be disputing this is. This is 662 00:26:38,720 --> 00:26:41,000 Speaker 2: our launch for Super Bowl. We're just launching the cans now. 663 00:26:41,720 --> 00:26:44,199 Speaker 2: But circleuse Coffee dot com. You can find it. We 664 00:26:44,280 --> 00:26:47,840 Speaker 2: sell whole beans, grind beans five pounds twelve ounces, our 665 00:26:47,840 --> 00:26:51,520 Speaker 2: cobrew nitro. We're gonna do some CBD infused THC infused coffee. 666 00:26:52,119 --> 00:26:53,320 Speaker 2: So we had a lot of things in the work. 667 00:26:53,359 --> 00:26:56,400 Speaker 2: But I love Circle House Coffee. Man, it's a phenomenal. 668 00:26:56,440 --> 00:26:57,840 Speaker 2: You guys should try with lease some stuff for you 669 00:26:57,840 --> 00:26:58,320 Speaker 2: before you leave. 670 00:26:58,560 --> 00:26:59,760 Speaker 3: I appreciate that. Appreciate that. 671 00:26:59,800 --> 00:27:02,960 Speaker 4: I definitely get on that. Two questions for you. Number one, 672 00:27:03,480 --> 00:27:05,159 Speaker 4: I want to go back. You said you went to 673 00:27:05,240 --> 00:27:08,840 Speaker 4: coffee school. Yeah, right, let's indulge in that for me, 674 00:27:09,000 --> 00:27:11,600 Speaker 4: just tell me, explain to me for those that don't know, 675 00:27:11,840 --> 00:27:13,200 Speaker 4: like myself, because I'm in coffee. 676 00:27:13,280 --> 00:27:16,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, so I think before getting anything, whatever it is 677 00:27:16,359 --> 00:27:18,560 Speaker 2: you want to invest your money in as an individual, 678 00:27:18,640 --> 00:27:20,960 Speaker 2: you never want to count on somebody else's understanding. You 679 00:27:20,960 --> 00:27:22,280 Speaker 2: want to know where you're putting your money at and 680 00:27:22,320 --> 00:27:25,600 Speaker 2: understand how things move, what it does, how it makes 681 00:27:26,320 --> 00:27:29,639 Speaker 2: the process of it. So, being that I wanted to 682 00:27:29,680 --> 00:27:31,480 Speaker 2: start a coffee shop, I went to coffee school to 683 00:27:31,560 --> 00:27:34,160 Speaker 2: understand what is coffee? You know, what are the beans? 684 00:27:34,240 --> 00:27:36,000 Speaker 2: You know, how do you roast it? You know, how 685 00:27:36,000 --> 00:27:38,240 Speaker 2: do you temper it? Like what temperature does it have 686 00:27:38,280 --> 00:27:40,159 Speaker 2: to be at? How do you steam your milk and foement? 687 00:27:40,520 --> 00:27:42,639 Speaker 2: You know, I want to understand the logistics of coffee. 688 00:27:42,640 --> 00:27:44,880 Speaker 2: Coffee is one of the largest commodities in the world. 689 00:27:45,000 --> 00:27:46,800 Speaker 2: You know, it costs a couple of cents to make, 690 00:27:46,840 --> 00:27:49,560 Speaker 2: but yet five six dollars to sell. I mean, the 691 00:27:49,640 --> 00:27:52,680 Speaker 2: returns on coffee is crazy, right, And so to be 692 00:27:52,720 --> 00:27:54,960 Speaker 2: able to get into that game and now really seeing 693 00:27:55,000 --> 00:27:57,320 Speaker 2: and how it works and the money behind it, it's 694 00:27:57,359 --> 00:28:01,800 Speaker 2: just it's unbelievable. It's like modern day you know, do 695 00:28:02,119 --> 00:28:03,360 Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying? This is one of those 696 00:28:03,359 --> 00:28:06,240 Speaker 2: things that people are addicted to, but I love it. 697 00:28:06,359 --> 00:28:09,040 Speaker 2: And so going to coffee school helped me understand that 698 00:28:10,119 --> 00:28:12,600 Speaker 2: what coffee was, how it works. But then hiring the 699 00:28:12,640 --> 00:28:14,639 Speaker 2: teacher I never forget. I asked the guys, said, can 700 00:28:14,640 --> 00:28:16,439 Speaker 2: I get your phone NOOM an email address? I'd love 701 00:28:16,480 --> 00:28:17,960 Speaker 2: to talk to you when I get back to Florida. 702 00:28:18,320 --> 00:28:18,879 Speaker 1: So I called him. 703 00:28:18,880 --> 00:28:20,480 Speaker 2: I said, look, man, I don't know much about coffee. 704 00:28:20,520 --> 00:28:23,399 Speaker 2: I recorded, uh the the class while I was there, 705 00:28:23,960 --> 00:28:25,479 Speaker 2: but would love to free to be a consultant. At 706 00:28:25,520 --> 00:28:27,600 Speaker 2: that time, he was a league guy for University of 707 00:28:27,640 --> 00:28:30,240 Speaker 2: Washington's coffee program. Says, I love to be a consultant. 708 00:28:30,240 --> 00:28:31,879 Speaker 2: I said, look, I'll pay x y X y Z. 709 00:28:32,280 --> 00:28:34,040 Speaker 2: You can fly in town. I'll fly you in Southwest 710 00:28:34,040 --> 00:28:35,440 Speaker 2: red Eyes. When you fly home, you can go straight 711 00:28:35,480 --> 00:28:37,800 Speaker 2: to the campus, off to university and work and just 712 00:28:37,840 --> 00:28:40,200 Speaker 2: help me build it out man, And he became my 713 00:28:40,280 --> 00:28:42,920 Speaker 2: general manager. After that, We've been, you know, been building 714 00:28:42,960 --> 00:28:46,800 Speaker 2: the brand and it's just been an amazing ride. Aside 715 00:28:46,800 --> 00:28:48,200 Speaker 2: from that, I do a lot of commercial real estate. 716 00:28:48,240 --> 00:28:52,600 Speaker 2: I do triple net leases with national brands. Charlie Chiese, Steaks, Performance, 717 00:28:52,720 --> 00:28:56,120 Speaker 2: NAPA do mixed use buildings, and I'm in residential, so 718 00:28:56,200 --> 00:28:58,120 Speaker 2: I do a lot more passive income stuff just because 719 00:28:58,160 --> 00:29:00,240 Speaker 2: you know, all my money working for me different treets 720 00:29:00,240 --> 00:29:02,760 Speaker 2: of income coming in at one time. So coffee's one 721 00:29:02,960 --> 00:29:05,120 Speaker 2: in my real estate and my ten year leases or others, 722 00:29:05,160 --> 00:29:07,200 Speaker 2: and just kind of keep building my portfolio. 723 00:29:07,520 --> 00:29:08,080 Speaker 3: I love that. 724 00:29:08,320 --> 00:29:12,800 Speaker 4: And my other question was was after the coffee thing, 725 00:29:13,080 --> 00:29:16,200 Speaker 4: the dang, Where's I about to go with that? 726 00:29:16,720 --> 00:29:18,840 Speaker 3: That? It was literally good, We'll stay on coffee. How 727 00:29:18,880 --> 00:29:23,160 Speaker 3: did you get the opportunity to work with the Miami Dolphins? 728 00:29:23,280 --> 00:29:25,160 Speaker 3: That's what I wanted to go with. Oh yeah, I 729 00:29:25,200 --> 00:29:27,080 Speaker 3: got you boom, thank you. So how did you get 730 00:29:27,120 --> 00:29:29,800 Speaker 3: them to have the opportunity to have them be your 731 00:29:29,840 --> 00:29:30,520 Speaker 3: coffee brand? 732 00:29:30,720 --> 00:29:31,920 Speaker 1: So I'll start back here. 733 00:29:31,960 --> 00:29:34,120 Speaker 2: So it's about relationships, yeah, right, It's all about how 734 00:29:34,120 --> 00:29:36,720 Speaker 2: you handle yourself as a pro right when you're in 735 00:29:36,720 --> 00:29:38,520 Speaker 2: the game, how you conduct yourself right becau. It's all 736 00:29:38,520 --> 00:29:42,040 Speaker 2: about relationships. Everyone knows everyone in this fraternity, right, so 737 00:29:42,080 --> 00:29:43,880 Speaker 2: when they vouch for you, you know this guy is a 738 00:29:43,920 --> 00:29:46,400 Speaker 2: great person, He's been consistent. You can trust them x 739 00:29:46,480 --> 00:29:48,320 Speaker 2: y Z. So I worked with like I mentioned before, 740 00:29:48,320 --> 00:29:51,200 Speaker 2: I work with the Mammi Dolphins for the Business Entrepreneurship 741 00:29:51,200 --> 00:29:53,840 Speaker 2: program every year February, so they have about forty or 742 00:29:53,840 --> 00:29:55,760 Speaker 2: so other players come to my coffee shop. We'll sit 743 00:29:55,800 --> 00:29:58,000 Speaker 2: down and have my financial advisor or my CPA or 744 00:29:58,040 --> 00:30:03,120 Speaker 2: not soliciting anything. We're just talking about taxes, understanding diversification, 745 00:30:03,400 --> 00:30:06,400 Speaker 2: understanding how to handle your money, and understanding entrepreneurship. So 746 00:30:06,400 --> 00:30:08,160 Speaker 2: we do that for about two three days every year. 747 00:30:08,400 --> 00:30:10,960 Speaker 2: We have like five different groups that come in. So 748 00:30:11,320 --> 00:30:13,400 Speaker 2: over time the Mammy Dolphins knew that I was bringing 749 00:30:13,440 --> 00:30:16,640 Speaker 2: in players. Caleb Thornhill reached out to the Dolphins said, 750 00:30:16,640 --> 00:30:19,640 Speaker 2: you know, Stephen Teller has his coffee brand. They brought 751 00:30:19,680 --> 00:30:21,840 Speaker 2: me in there. Said absolutely, Caleb, you know we respect you. 752 00:30:21,920 --> 00:30:23,920 Speaker 2: We see what he's doing. All of our staff they 753 00:30:23,920 --> 00:30:25,320 Speaker 2: go to Circle House Coffee. We'll love to have it 754 00:30:25,320 --> 00:30:27,560 Speaker 2: in the building. And so from there it just propelled 755 00:30:27,560 --> 00:30:29,920 Speaker 2: and obviously paying for the lines, have an opportunity to 756 00:30:29,920 --> 00:30:31,200 Speaker 2: be at Walters Paytman in the year there and do 757 00:30:31,240 --> 00:30:32,960 Speaker 2: a lot of stuff in the community. They open the 758 00:30:33,000 --> 00:30:33,360 Speaker 2: doors for me. 759 00:30:33,360 --> 00:30:33,640 Speaker 1: Are ready. 760 00:30:33,680 --> 00:30:35,280 Speaker 2: So I tell guys, out of sight, out of mind, 761 00:30:35,480 --> 00:30:37,280 Speaker 2: it's all about the relationships you have while you play, 762 00:30:37,280 --> 00:30:39,320 Speaker 2: don't burn your bridges, and because you never know if 763 00:30:39,360 --> 00:30:40,880 Speaker 2: you're going to have to reach back, and so by 764 00:30:40,920 --> 00:30:43,480 Speaker 2: doing so, I was able to reach back to them. Obviously, 765 00:30:43,520 --> 00:30:46,480 Speaker 2: Tracy is everyone who have a performed a relationship throughout 766 00:30:46,520 --> 00:30:48,560 Speaker 2: my career, and those doors open up for you because 767 00:30:48,560 --> 00:30:50,920 Speaker 2: they know your character, knew how you handle yourself and 768 00:30:50,960 --> 00:30:52,480 Speaker 2: how you go about your business day to day. So 769 00:30:53,000 --> 00:30:55,280 Speaker 2: having those relationships help open the door for me. But 770 00:30:55,320 --> 00:30:58,360 Speaker 2: obviously he's still performing and providing excellence along that journey. 771 00:30:58,360 --> 00:30:59,800 Speaker 4: I just think it's cool because that's what I was 772 00:30:59,840 --> 00:31:01,880 Speaker 4: doing to go to is that. I mean, you guys 773 00:31:01,920 --> 00:31:03,720 Speaker 4: got it. You got it on tap, like they got 774 00:31:03,720 --> 00:31:07,640 Speaker 4: coffee on tap in Miami facility, Like it looks like 775 00:31:07,680 --> 00:31:08,240 Speaker 4: a beer tap. 776 00:31:08,280 --> 00:31:11,120 Speaker 1: They just been delivery today. So like I said, man, 777 00:31:11,200 --> 00:31:11,560 Speaker 1: just growing. 778 00:31:11,920 --> 00:31:14,160 Speaker 2: You know, my vision is to get more teams, which 779 00:31:14,200 --> 00:31:16,600 Speaker 2: we will get the NFL, which we will. 780 00:31:16,800 --> 00:31:18,440 Speaker 3: So they're all cold? Are they hot? Like? 781 00:31:18,520 --> 00:31:20,600 Speaker 1: So we do both. So we do col brew, we 782 00:31:20,640 --> 00:31:24,320 Speaker 1: do nitro, and we do drip coffee. It's your favorite. 783 00:31:24,920 --> 00:31:26,880 Speaker 2: I'm really loving this new Colbrew that we have. I 784 00:31:26,920 --> 00:31:29,360 Speaker 2: really really love it. But I'm more of a latte guy. Yeah, 785 00:31:29,520 --> 00:31:32,480 Speaker 2: I'm more of like a turnative milk, plant based Macadamian milk. 786 00:31:32,480 --> 00:31:35,160 Speaker 2: I don't drink whole milk. Double shot of express, so 787 00:31:35,960 --> 00:31:37,640 Speaker 2: a little bit of vanilla and I'm good to go. 788 00:31:37,840 --> 00:31:42,560 Speaker 2: But uh, our coffee is the best coffee. Circle House Coffee, Cirhouse. 789 00:31:43,360 --> 00:31:44,680 Speaker 3: Now, why how did you come over with the name? 790 00:31:45,320 --> 00:31:47,320 Speaker 2: So Circle House giving back one a better time. So 791 00:31:47,640 --> 00:31:49,480 Speaker 2: if you look at the logo, it's a house and 792 00:31:49,480 --> 00:31:51,320 Speaker 2: it's raised coming out of it. So this house is 793 00:31:51,520 --> 00:31:54,640 Speaker 2: inclusive everybody, straight, gay and different. You know, it's about 794 00:31:54,640 --> 00:31:57,280 Speaker 2: coming together for one mission that's helping people involve. So 795 00:31:57,320 --> 00:31:59,440 Speaker 2: we have different charity that we raise awareness for every 796 00:31:59,440 --> 00:32:02,000 Speaker 2: month or so that we try to raise initiative for. 797 00:32:02,280 --> 00:32:05,000 Speaker 2: So everybody coming into one house. One mission's to help people. 798 00:32:05,160 --> 00:32:06,760 Speaker 2: So that raise that come out of that cup or 799 00:32:06,840 --> 00:32:09,800 Speaker 2: raise of just giving back. So Circle House Coffee getting 800 00:32:09,800 --> 00:32:11,280 Speaker 2: back once set at a time. So so circle and 801 00:32:11,360 --> 00:32:14,040 Speaker 2: just come revolving circle of giving back, coming in, giving back, 802 00:32:14,080 --> 00:32:14,440 Speaker 2: coming in. 803 00:32:14,520 --> 00:32:16,360 Speaker 1: So that's what Circle House Coffee is about. 804 00:32:16,520 --> 00:32:20,120 Speaker 3: You are extremely busy and you do a lot from 805 00:32:20,320 --> 00:32:25,400 Speaker 3: the coffee, the foundation, commercial real estate, residential real estate. 806 00:32:26,680 --> 00:32:27,360 Speaker 3: What's next? 807 00:32:27,960 --> 00:32:30,080 Speaker 2: What are you gonna do next, I don't know. I 808 00:32:30,120 --> 00:32:33,400 Speaker 2: think just keep growing in my portfolio. To be quite 809 00:32:33,480 --> 00:32:35,840 Speaker 2: honest with you, just that the opportunity to be first generation, 810 00:32:36,000 --> 00:32:38,880 Speaker 2: to even open up doors financially, I think is the 811 00:32:38,880 --> 00:32:39,640 Speaker 2: biggest thing for me. 812 00:32:40,120 --> 00:32:40,280 Speaker 1: You know. 813 00:32:40,360 --> 00:32:41,800 Speaker 2: Obviously growing up as a kid, I think we all 814 00:32:41,840 --> 00:32:43,760 Speaker 2: can attest it is that our goal was to get 815 00:32:43,960 --> 00:32:45,600 Speaker 2: to play football, take care of our family. 816 00:32:45,720 --> 00:32:46,320 Speaker 1: Right. 817 00:32:46,400 --> 00:32:48,200 Speaker 2: But now you're in a different situation where now you 818 00:32:48,240 --> 00:32:51,000 Speaker 2: have some monetary gains. You've read the benefits of playing 819 00:32:51,000 --> 00:32:53,160 Speaker 2: the NFL. Now you can teach your kids a different 820 00:32:53,160 --> 00:32:55,080 Speaker 2: way that football is not the only answer. You could 821 00:32:55,080 --> 00:32:56,920 Speaker 2: teach them financial literacy, things that you didn't know, what 822 00:32:57,040 --> 00:32:59,120 Speaker 2: we didn't know growing up. You could teach you, you know, 823 00:32:59,320 --> 00:33:02,080 Speaker 2: how to reinvest money, how dividends work, how to diversify 824 00:33:02,120 --> 00:33:05,960 Speaker 2: your portfolio, how to how to you know seventy percent. 825 00:33:05,240 --> 00:33:07,320 Speaker 1: How to really you know, you know do that. 826 00:33:07,440 --> 00:33:09,640 Speaker 2: So I think for me, it's just keep growing, you know, 827 00:33:09,720 --> 00:33:12,080 Speaker 2: the portfolio, Keep being a mentor to a lot of 828 00:33:12,080 --> 00:33:15,000 Speaker 2: these young guys, be mentored to my future kids, and 829 00:33:15,160 --> 00:33:17,520 Speaker 2: to have a foundation so when I leave, when I 830 00:33:17,640 --> 00:33:19,360 Speaker 2: leave this earth, you know, they could be you know, 831 00:33:19,560 --> 00:33:22,320 Speaker 2: my dad you know, you know, my dad made me proud, 832 00:33:22,360 --> 00:33:23,720 Speaker 2: you know what I mean? You know, you know he 833 00:33:23,840 --> 00:33:24,959 Speaker 2: less something behind for us. 834 00:33:25,400 --> 00:33:25,520 Speaker 3: Uh. 835 00:33:25,560 --> 00:33:27,520 Speaker 2: He wasn't just a football player. He's more than an athlete, 836 00:33:27,520 --> 00:33:29,040 Speaker 2: and he took advantage of his opportunities. 837 00:33:29,480 --> 00:33:31,560 Speaker 3: Man, that's well said as well. 838 00:33:32,760 --> 00:33:35,280 Speaker 4: I'd like to know a little bit more about your 839 00:33:35,360 --> 00:33:39,920 Speaker 4: foundation side and what you're calling the Operation fifty five. 840 00:33:40,600 --> 00:33:41,560 Speaker 4: Did you maybe share with us? 841 00:33:41,600 --> 00:33:43,120 Speaker 1: So yeah, Operation fifty five. 842 00:33:43,160 --> 00:33:44,800 Speaker 2: I'm gonna give a shout out to Sherry, and you know, 843 00:33:44,880 --> 00:33:47,400 Speaker 2: she helped me create Operation fifty five first of the 844 00:33:47,440 --> 00:33:50,520 Speaker 2: Steven Tully Foundation. But when I got to Detroit as 845 00:33:50,520 --> 00:33:52,959 Speaker 2: a free agent in twenty eleven, I think it's August 846 00:33:53,000 --> 00:33:55,000 Speaker 2: I met Sherry and she's like, look, I got a 847 00:33:55,040 --> 00:33:57,120 Speaker 2: great idea. What she call it Operation fifty five. Right, 848 00:33:57,160 --> 00:34:00,360 Speaker 2: We're gonna take fifty five kids with cancer to every 849 00:34:00,360 --> 00:34:01,960 Speaker 2: home game. So we reached out to the line. The 850 00:34:02,000 --> 00:34:03,840 Speaker 2: line said, absolutely, we get your tickets to every home 851 00:34:03,880 --> 00:34:06,360 Speaker 2: game for fifty five kids dealing with cancer. We'll provide 852 00:34:06,360 --> 00:34:09,040 Speaker 2: them food beverages to every home game. So we'd get 853 00:34:09,040 --> 00:34:10,600 Speaker 2: t shirts for them with fifty five in the back. 854 00:34:10,680 --> 00:34:13,560 Speaker 2: The foundation. If it was Kids Cancer Month, it was yellow. 855 00:34:13,880 --> 00:34:16,400 Speaker 2: If it was breast cancer month, it was pink, right, 856 00:34:16,440 --> 00:34:18,399 Speaker 2: And so every game, every home game, we had kids 857 00:34:18,440 --> 00:34:19,880 Speaker 2: sold out with my whole time and I was there 858 00:34:19,880 --> 00:34:22,680 Speaker 2: in Detroit. It took fifty five public schools in Detroit. 859 00:34:23,040 --> 00:34:25,800 Speaker 2: We raised money through all of our resources, our sponsors, 860 00:34:25,920 --> 00:34:28,560 Speaker 2: you know, the network that I made. We will provide 861 00:34:28,560 --> 00:34:32,520 Speaker 2: school materials to all Detroit public schools, laptops, tablets, books. 862 00:34:33,120 --> 00:34:35,440 Speaker 2: I mean, Detroit public school is very rough, and when 863 00:34:35,480 --> 00:34:36,719 Speaker 2: you walking out that public school, you'll go to the 864 00:34:36,760 --> 00:34:40,200 Speaker 2: metal detectors that we provide fifty five schools with essentials 865 00:34:40,239 --> 00:34:42,560 Speaker 2: for them to be able to take take care of 866 00:34:42,600 --> 00:34:46,320 Speaker 2: their business, and just just different things, athletes adopting families, 867 00:34:46,600 --> 00:34:49,600 Speaker 2: Angels of Hope, breast cancer in October, I mean fifty five. 868 00:34:49,800 --> 00:34:52,440 Speaker 2: Operation fifty five was just a whole nother level. Like 869 00:34:52,520 --> 00:34:54,000 Speaker 2: I didn't you know, I got. I can't take all 870 00:34:54,040 --> 00:34:55,680 Speaker 2: the credit on that when it was it was brought 871 00:34:55,719 --> 00:34:57,359 Speaker 2: to me through Sherr, But you know, we just really 872 00:34:57,440 --> 00:35:00,080 Speaker 2: really made big, big efforts in Detroit. And now we 873 00:35:00,160 --> 00:35:02,520 Speaker 2: propel that to life after football with this coffee shop. 874 00:35:02,760 --> 00:35:04,640 Speaker 2: So now we keep that legacy going, or keep that 875 00:35:05,680 --> 00:35:07,600 Speaker 2: mindset going of being but you know, everything we do 876 00:35:07,680 --> 00:35:10,719 Speaker 2: is in fifty five fifty five cent donations. You know, 877 00:35:10,840 --> 00:35:13,919 Speaker 2: fifty five cents forever you can that we sell. Every 878 00:35:13,960 --> 00:35:16,359 Speaker 2: bag that we sell goes to the foundation, and that's 879 00:35:16,360 --> 00:35:18,000 Speaker 2: what keeps the foundation going to be able to give 880 00:35:18,080 --> 00:35:21,320 Speaker 2: back and help places like Cuba, Peru, Jamaica, Haiti, the 881 00:35:21,440 --> 00:35:22,080 Speaker 2: place that we do. 882 00:35:22,160 --> 00:35:22,440 Speaker 1: Work in. 883 00:35:24,360 --> 00:35:26,919 Speaker 3: That you are the most interesting man in the world. 884 00:35:27,760 --> 00:35:31,120 Speaker 1: I believe me that I like it. I like it. 885 00:35:32,000 --> 00:35:39,160 Speaker 3: We'll be right back after a quick break. So I 886 00:35:39,239 --> 00:35:41,640 Speaker 3: got a children's book I wrote. I wrote, me and 887 00:35:41,920 --> 00:35:44,399 Speaker 3: a guy, we we call our to this children's book. 888 00:35:44,480 --> 00:35:48,359 Speaker 3: And I'm not going to say it was hard because 889 00:35:48,400 --> 00:35:50,040 Speaker 3: I didn't do all the writing. I just kind of 890 00:35:50,480 --> 00:35:52,799 Speaker 3: gave the interview Pard and just kind of said, hey, 891 00:35:52,960 --> 00:35:55,000 Speaker 3: maybe we add this, maybe we take this out. But 892 00:35:55,120 --> 00:35:57,120 Speaker 3: he's a he's a journalist, he's a scholar, he's an 893 00:35:57,120 --> 00:36:01,920 Speaker 3: English guy. So you have a book, little linebackers, A 894 00:36:02,040 --> 00:36:06,320 Speaker 3: story of determination. Yeah, I apologize, a story of determination. 895 00:36:07,280 --> 00:36:13,160 Speaker 3: What was harder writing this book or tackling Adrian Peterson man. 896 00:36:17,160 --> 00:36:17,680 Speaker 1: A different name. 897 00:36:17,680 --> 00:36:19,960 Speaker 2: We played twice a year, but we already knew. You 898 00:36:20,040 --> 00:36:22,200 Speaker 2: knew when you play in Minnesota. What your mind set 899 00:36:22,239 --> 00:36:24,200 Speaker 2: had to be you know what I'm saying. I ain't 900 00:36:24,200 --> 00:36:25,640 Speaker 2: gonna lie, but it ain't no running back in the 901 00:36:25,719 --> 00:36:28,000 Speaker 2: game that I played outside of maybe Marshawn or maybe 902 00:36:28,120 --> 00:36:30,640 Speaker 2: reached those juws fred Fred Tinamoy was twice a year 903 00:36:31,000 --> 00:36:32,640 Speaker 2: that you had to have your mind right going into 904 00:36:32,680 --> 00:36:35,080 Speaker 2: that game because you just never know either run through 905 00:36:35,160 --> 00:36:36,840 Speaker 2: you or he will run around you, you know what 906 00:36:36,880 --> 00:36:39,200 Speaker 2: I'm saying. So you can't stop your feet. You got 907 00:36:39,280 --> 00:36:43,160 Speaker 2: to shoot, and everybody has to rally. Literally, everybody has 908 00:36:43,200 --> 00:36:45,520 Speaker 2: to rally, like I might shoot, I miss, but I 909 00:36:45,600 --> 00:36:47,640 Speaker 2: need you to clean up for me. Ain't no guarantee 910 00:36:47,640 --> 00:36:48,919 Speaker 2: i'mna get him down, you know what I'm saying. 911 00:36:48,960 --> 00:36:50,640 Speaker 3: I always thought that was the best thing about playing 912 00:36:50,640 --> 00:36:51,080 Speaker 3: against Ap. 913 00:36:51,280 --> 00:36:51,920 Speaker 1: You have to shoot. 914 00:36:52,719 --> 00:37:00,120 Speaker 4: It was like he was easier because like because he 915 00:37:00,239 --> 00:37:02,480 Speaker 4: was powerful, he was fast and was shifty, but the 916 00:37:02,560 --> 00:37:04,920 Speaker 4: best way to tackle him was just go shooting. 917 00:37:05,200 --> 00:37:09,040 Speaker 1: Had to shoot. It was okay because somebody behind you, 918 00:37:10,200 --> 00:37:11,360 Speaker 1: but everybody. 919 00:37:12,640 --> 00:37:15,439 Speaker 3: So I think what to me was easier with Ap. 920 00:37:15,800 --> 00:37:18,279 Speaker 3: The only guy that ran away from me. 921 00:37:18,680 --> 00:37:21,560 Speaker 1: He's unbelievab He's he was like a creative player. 922 00:37:24,480 --> 00:37:30,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, the only guy just twice in one game, just you. 923 00:37:30,719 --> 00:37:33,040 Speaker 1: Knew on one one hit, he's gone. 924 00:37:33,080 --> 00:37:34,840 Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, but I'll say a p 925 00:37:35,040 --> 00:37:37,040 Speaker 2: but I will say making that book was amazing, A 926 00:37:37,160 --> 00:37:39,800 Speaker 2: little linebacker story of determination. Talked about my life just 927 00:37:39,880 --> 00:37:43,080 Speaker 2: basically as underdog underside people tell him I was too small, 928 00:37:43,560 --> 00:37:46,080 Speaker 2: wasn't big enough, I'll never make it. Just to have 929 00:37:46,200 --> 00:37:48,719 Speaker 2: that mindset understand that doesn't matter what people limitate, the 930 00:37:48,719 --> 00:37:50,720 Speaker 2: people put on you. You know, you have the ultimate 931 00:37:50,840 --> 00:37:53,719 Speaker 2: you know, last say, and so just going through adversity 932 00:37:53,760 --> 00:37:57,080 Speaker 2: of being undersized player at my position, not being picked 933 00:37:57,120 --> 00:37:59,200 Speaker 2: first as a kid because they said I was too small, 934 00:38:00,239 --> 00:38:02,000 Speaker 2: just the mindset, man, my heart was bigger than my 935 00:38:02,080 --> 00:38:05,160 Speaker 2: body and nobody could. I'll work my mindset and so 936 00:38:06,040 --> 00:38:07,600 Speaker 2: just to be able to get to lead and to 937 00:38:07,680 --> 00:38:09,719 Speaker 2: be an inspiration to the younger kids out there who 938 00:38:10,080 --> 00:38:12,360 Speaker 2: say that too small and not big enough, just let 939 00:38:12,480 --> 00:38:14,120 Speaker 2: us know that it's all about your mindset. You know, 940 00:38:14,160 --> 00:38:17,279 Speaker 2: you don't put the limitation on yourself. It's it was 941 00:38:17,280 --> 00:38:19,799 Speaker 2: important for me to make that book, and we're coming 942 00:38:19,800 --> 00:38:21,359 Speaker 2: out with a new one here pretty soon that we're 943 00:38:21,400 --> 00:38:26,120 Speaker 2: working on Life after Football and Transition Kids book. Just 944 00:38:26,200 --> 00:38:28,080 Speaker 2: to kind of just like I said, be an inspiration, man. 945 00:38:28,239 --> 00:38:30,200 Speaker 2: Just use our platform and to be able to give 946 00:38:30,239 --> 00:38:31,759 Speaker 2: back and health your younger kids because as you know, 947 00:38:31,840 --> 00:38:33,919 Speaker 2: growing up as kids, we didn't have any people coming 948 00:38:33,920 --> 00:38:36,280 Speaker 2: back talking to us about you know, you know, success 949 00:38:36,320 --> 00:38:37,680 Speaker 2: and what it looks like and how to get there. 950 00:38:37,760 --> 00:38:40,359 Speaker 2: So having these podcasts what you're doing, man, I can 951 00:38:40,400 --> 00:38:42,040 Speaker 2: tell you. I can contest to her. There's kids back 952 00:38:42,040 --> 00:38:44,640 Speaker 2: at home that watch you guys and see you guys 953 00:38:44,680 --> 00:38:47,719 Speaker 2: as role models. So like I can't reiterate, man like, 954 00:38:48,080 --> 00:38:50,239 Speaker 2: y'all keep doing what you're doing because you're making an 955 00:38:50,239 --> 00:38:51,839 Speaker 2: impact on a lot of people, you know what I'm saying. 956 00:38:51,880 --> 00:38:53,120 Speaker 2: So that's that's that's what it's about. 957 00:38:53,360 --> 00:38:54,279 Speaker 3: I appreciate that. 958 00:38:55,040 --> 00:38:56,960 Speaker 4: I don't take those words lightly people that I hope 959 00:38:57,000 --> 00:39:00,719 Speaker 4: you receive that words words matter that big thing for me. 960 00:39:01,520 --> 00:39:03,839 Speaker 4: I also went and checked out your book last night 961 00:39:03,880 --> 00:39:05,840 Speaker 4: on Amazon. I don't know who's selling it. It was 962 00:39:05,880 --> 00:39:07,040 Speaker 4: for four hundred dollars. 963 00:39:07,440 --> 00:39:10,000 Speaker 3: So I was like, I was thinking about buying one. 964 00:39:09,960 --> 00:39:13,520 Speaker 2: But I'm a four hundred We will get you right, 965 00:39:14,680 --> 00:39:16,680 Speaker 2: you know, I got four little ones so we to 966 00:39:16,680 --> 00:39:17,080 Speaker 2: write people. 967 00:39:17,120 --> 00:39:17,759 Speaker 1: Get that right, Okay. 968 00:39:18,000 --> 00:39:19,560 Speaker 3: I appreciate that. Just gonna let you know. 969 00:39:19,719 --> 00:39:24,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, research twelve dollars. Yeah, that's what we'll 970 00:39:24,200 --> 00:39:27,360 Speaker 1: get it. We'll get it, Okay, personal mail you one. 971 00:39:29,200 --> 00:39:29,879 Speaker 3: Limited edition? 972 00:39:31,040 --> 00:39:34,399 Speaker 2: Good you actually order order a Circle House Coffee dot com. 973 00:39:34,520 --> 00:39:36,440 Speaker 2: You go to the shop session the kids books and 974 00:39:36,480 --> 00:39:37,600 Speaker 2: this you go with it there as well. 975 00:39:38,440 --> 00:39:42,799 Speaker 4: Everything at circle house dot com. All right, I can't 976 00:39:42,800 --> 00:39:45,080 Speaker 4: wait to hear this. And this is a question I 977 00:39:45,200 --> 00:39:48,200 Speaker 4: usually reserved for Peanut, but I'll do it this time. 978 00:39:49,600 --> 00:39:53,120 Speaker 4: So we always talk about our levels of influence, people 979 00:39:53,280 --> 00:39:55,239 Speaker 4: that have really mattered to us the most and really 980 00:39:55,280 --> 00:39:57,879 Speaker 4: poured into us or helped make us who we are. 981 00:39:58,600 --> 00:40:00,920 Speaker 4: So we talk about our own personal Mount Rushmore on 982 00:40:01,000 --> 00:40:03,440 Speaker 4: this show, right, and so we would like to know 983 00:40:03,760 --> 00:40:08,400 Speaker 4: who is your on your Mount Rushmore of personal influence? 984 00:40:09,400 --> 00:40:11,480 Speaker 1: How the people do I get? I'll give you a couple. 985 00:40:13,440 --> 00:40:18,240 Speaker 2: My mom number one, just who she is as a person, 986 00:40:18,800 --> 00:40:21,080 Speaker 2: what she's able to do for coming from Jamaica that 987 00:40:21,200 --> 00:40:23,560 Speaker 2: day in her early twenties, to be able to lay 988 00:40:23,560 --> 00:40:26,920 Speaker 2: a foundation for me, and understanding that hard work pays off. 989 00:40:27,840 --> 00:40:28,760 Speaker 1: My mom was everything. 990 00:40:29,160 --> 00:40:32,000 Speaker 4: And shout out to Steven here, who also I saw 991 00:40:32,040 --> 00:40:33,919 Speaker 4: on Instagram paid off his mom's house. 992 00:40:34,880 --> 00:40:37,400 Speaker 3: So congratulations doing such a great thing. Her lot of. 993 00:40:37,480 --> 00:40:39,640 Speaker 4: Sons are not able to do. You doing that for 994 00:40:39,719 --> 00:40:41,960 Speaker 4: your mom is beautiful as well, So shout out to 995 00:40:42,000 --> 00:40:42,960 Speaker 4: her and what you're growing. 996 00:40:42,840 --> 00:40:43,319 Speaker 1: Up as a kid. 997 00:40:43,480 --> 00:40:46,520 Speaker 2: Always the bills are always a conversation, her having to 998 00:40:46,560 --> 00:40:48,920 Speaker 2: borrow money for people to keep the lights on. So 999 00:40:49,000 --> 00:40:51,000 Speaker 2: when I got drafted, I finally got paid. I went 1000 00:40:51,040 --> 00:40:53,439 Speaker 2: in ahead and wrote that six figure check and paid 1001 00:40:53,440 --> 00:40:55,200 Speaker 2: off her house. And so to me, that was probably 1002 00:40:55,200 --> 00:40:57,279 Speaker 2: one of the greatest moments of my life. You saw 1003 00:40:57,320 --> 00:40:59,600 Speaker 2: the video men, you know what I mean, and her 1004 00:40:59,600 --> 00:41:01,279 Speaker 2: struggle to pay those bills and knowing she didn't have 1005 00:41:01,280 --> 00:41:02,520 Speaker 2: to worry about that anymore. It was one of the 1006 00:41:02,960 --> 00:41:06,480 Speaker 2: greatest accomplishes they had. But my mom Number one. It's 1007 00:41:06,480 --> 00:41:09,400 Speaker 2: a guy named Jay Lot, my mom's boss, a Jewish 1008 00:41:09,480 --> 00:41:11,840 Speaker 2: guy passed away now my mom. My mom worked in 1009 00:41:11,840 --> 00:41:13,839 Speaker 2: a nursing home for a lady named Rachel, and Jay 1010 00:41:14,040 --> 00:41:16,520 Speaker 2: was the son. But he took, he took, He took 1011 00:41:16,520 --> 00:41:17,879 Speaker 2: a liking to me. He saw me at the nursing 1012 00:41:17,920 --> 00:41:20,839 Speaker 2: home every day, pushing his mom around with my mom, 1013 00:41:21,040 --> 00:41:23,240 Speaker 2: see me in the lobby when my mom worked overnight, 1014 00:41:23,560 --> 00:41:25,040 Speaker 2: having to get up, take a shower and the old 1015 00:41:25,080 --> 00:41:27,160 Speaker 2: folks shower before they woke up, the walk across the 1016 00:41:27,160 --> 00:41:29,760 Speaker 2: street to school, and he's seen me about my first computer, 1017 00:41:29,920 --> 00:41:33,400 Speaker 2: my first bicycle, put me into tutoring. He really believed 1018 00:41:33,440 --> 00:41:35,799 Speaker 2: in me when I got drafted. He's helped me pick 1019 00:41:35,880 --> 00:41:39,440 Speaker 2: my agents with Neil Schwartz and Drew Rosenhouse financial advisor, 1020 00:41:39,520 --> 00:41:41,640 Speaker 2: got me with the right financial advisors, talking about checks 1021 00:41:41,640 --> 00:41:44,680 Speaker 2: and balances. Not having the same financial advisor, just CPS. 1022 00:41:44,680 --> 00:41:46,879 Speaker 2: They should know each other every month, meeting with both 1023 00:41:46,920 --> 00:41:48,799 Speaker 2: of them. Checks and balances, make sure you have you're 1024 00:41:48,880 --> 00:41:50,600 Speaker 2: ride off. Like he taught me financial literacy. 1025 00:41:51,239 --> 00:41:51,920 Speaker 1: But he believed in me. 1026 00:41:51,960 --> 00:41:54,000 Speaker 2: At the age of seven years old all the way 1027 00:41:54,040 --> 00:41:55,799 Speaker 2: to the age of twenty two before he passed away. 1028 00:41:56,120 --> 00:41:57,880 Speaker 2: I don't think without him I'd have the same mindset 1029 00:41:57,920 --> 00:42:00,239 Speaker 2: that I have now, just from that mon to your 1030 00:42:00,280 --> 00:42:03,000 Speaker 2: mindset just being a man. So I'll put him at 1031 00:42:03,080 --> 00:42:09,080 Speaker 2: number two, number three my mentor uh just being a pro. 1032 00:42:09,760 --> 00:42:12,520 Speaker 2: Uh what I'd say would be David right just taking 1033 00:42:12,640 --> 00:42:14,560 Speaker 2: on a twenty one year old kid, leaving college earlier 1034 00:42:14,560 --> 00:42:17,000 Speaker 2: as a junior, geting to the NFL and walking in 1035 00:42:17,040 --> 00:42:18,680 Speaker 2: that locker room for the first time and seeing all 1036 00:42:18,719 --> 00:42:21,640 Speaker 2: these guys that big chains on, big drip, big cars, 1037 00:42:21,960 --> 00:42:24,120 Speaker 2: and said, guy, he said, don't follow these guys. Just 1038 00:42:24,280 --> 00:42:27,160 Speaker 2: what they don't do that that was to fall. 1039 00:42:28,280 --> 00:42:31,439 Speaker 3: Don't do that, jewelry, don't fall. 1040 00:42:31,640 --> 00:42:33,640 Speaker 1: Hell, he will be around a long time. 1041 00:42:33,719 --> 00:42:35,080 Speaker 2: But just teaching me to understand how to be a 1042 00:42:35,120 --> 00:42:38,000 Speaker 2: pro on and off the field, help propel my career 1043 00:42:38,120 --> 00:42:41,480 Speaker 2: to hold another whole nother trajectory. And uh, you know 1044 00:42:41,520 --> 00:42:43,560 Speaker 2: there's there's a bunch of other people team on and 1045 00:42:43,840 --> 00:42:48,399 Speaker 2: and uh you know family, you know, just friends. I'd say, 1046 00:42:48,480 --> 00:42:51,480 Speaker 2: the right friends that I have in my circle now 1047 00:42:52,360 --> 00:42:56,560 Speaker 2: really keep me humble. They believe in everything that I do. Uh, 1048 00:42:56,640 --> 00:42:58,359 Speaker 2: they stick behind me. They give me one hundred percent 1049 00:42:58,440 --> 00:43:00,520 Speaker 2: of them. I give one hundred percent to them as well. 1050 00:43:01,360 --> 00:43:03,719 Speaker 2: So I put my friends category as a fourth because 1051 00:43:03,760 --> 00:43:06,040 Speaker 2: I have real solid friends in my life who tell 1052 00:43:06,080 --> 00:43:08,920 Speaker 2: me when I'm wrong, who I take constructive criticism from. 1053 00:43:09,239 --> 00:43:11,200 Speaker 2: That's the thing about football is it teaches you how 1054 00:43:11,200 --> 00:43:13,000 Speaker 2: to have thick skin. I think a lot of people 1055 00:43:13,040 --> 00:43:15,399 Speaker 2: are sensitive nowadays. When you talk to them about certain things, 1056 00:43:15,760 --> 00:43:17,640 Speaker 2: they get in there feeling how can you talk to 1057 00:43:17,719 --> 00:43:19,120 Speaker 2: me that way? Said, No, I'm not coming at you. 1058 00:43:19,160 --> 00:43:21,520 Speaker 2: I'm trying to mentor you and give you positivity so 1059 00:43:21,600 --> 00:43:23,799 Speaker 2: you don't make these bad mistakes. I'm in your corner. 1060 00:43:23,840 --> 00:43:25,840 Speaker 2: I want to see you win. I'm more excited to 1061 00:43:25,880 --> 00:43:28,080 Speaker 2: see people win than I am. I'm more excited to 1062 00:43:28,080 --> 00:43:30,040 Speaker 2: see people win than I'm win because I know what 1063 00:43:30,120 --> 00:43:32,240 Speaker 2: winning feels like. We've all been part of winning teams, 1064 00:43:32,360 --> 00:43:35,239 Speaker 2: right with Super Bowls and made money and then you know, 1065 00:43:35,320 --> 00:43:36,040 Speaker 2: we understand what. 1066 00:43:36,120 --> 00:43:36,800 Speaker 1: That side looks like. 1067 00:43:37,080 --> 00:43:38,759 Speaker 2: So we see people in your peer group that are 1068 00:43:38,800 --> 00:43:40,759 Speaker 2: getting to that level, you're excited for them because you 1069 00:43:40,800 --> 00:43:42,759 Speaker 2: know the feeling of it. That's how I am so 1070 00:43:42,880 --> 00:43:45,600 Speaker 2: having friends like that, but I can talk to and encourage. 1071 00:43:45,600 --> 00:43:47,600 Speaker 2: I think for me is I put my friends group 1072 00:43:47,640 --> 00:43:49,640 Speaker 2: of friends in that for slot on the Mount Rushmore. 1073 00:43:50,800 --> 00:43:53,839 Speaker 2: My mom missed Lodge Bitch and Harry Thomas and those 1074 00:43:53,840 --> 00:43:54,399 Speaker 2: guys for sure. 1075 00:43:55,880 --> 00:43:58,160 Speaker 3: Hey man, that was good. We appreciate you coming on 1076 00:43:58,280 --> 00:44:02,600 Speaker 3: the show. That's awesome. Excited about sorter House Coffee Superhousecoffee 1077 00:44:02,640 --> 00:44:05,759 Speaker 3: dot Com. Absolutely, I'll be going on there checking out 1078 00:44:05,800 --> 00:44:08,280 Speaker 3: the coffee, the night Trow, the cold night Troll, appreciate 1079 00:44:08,360 --> 00:44:11,200 Speaker 3: the beans, the whatever. I'm a buy a book. I 1080 00:44:11,239 --> 00:44:13,080 Speaker 3: got full little ones, I got full minis at the 1081 00:44:13,120 --> 00:44:16,640 Speaker 3: crib that No, man, thanks for blessing us. I'm excited 1082 00:44:16,680 --> 00:44:19,360 Speaker 3: about what twenty twenty four holes for you and your business, 1083 00:44:19,440 --> 00:44:21,400 Speaker 3: and thank you all the ventures you're doing. Man, and 1084 00:44:21,440 --> 00:44:22,840 Speaker 3: I wish you nothing but the best. 1085 00:44:23,160 --> 00:44:24,839 Speaker 2: Yeah, I wish you guys but the best as well. 1086 00:44:25,600 --> 00:44:27,000 Speaker 2: Best keep doing what you're doing. Man, Thank you for 1087 00:44:27,080 --> 00:44:29,879 Speaker 2: having me and taking the time, and I'll be back soon. 1088 00:44:30,320 --> 00:44:31,960 Speaker 4: No, man, I appreciate it, but I can't. I can't 1089 00:44:31,960 --> 00:44:34,480 Speaker 4: wait till you turn freaking forty one or forty two, 1090 00:44:34,640 --> 00:44:39,080 Speaker 4: like you're gonna be done taking to me about forty three. 1091 00:44:39,200 --> 00:44:43,080 Speaker 3: I am forty one, forty one, okay, till everybody fifty 1092 00:44:43,640 --> 00:44:46,160 Speaker 3: and then they think I mean fifty. I look good, 1093 00:44:46,400 --> 00:44:47,560 Speaker 3: and that's what I'm saying. 1094 00:44:48,120 --> 00:44:49,759 Speaker 1: Good, y'all are great man. 1095 00:44:50,160 --> 00:44:52,520 Speaker 3: Forty one, yeah, peanuts older than me. All right, we're 1096 00:44:52,520 --> 00:44:54,239 Speaker 3: gonna get it out of here. Y'all ready, let's get 1097 00:44:54,280 --> 00:44:54,719 Speaker 3: up out of here. 1098 00:44:54,800 --> 00:44:54,920 Speaker 2: Man. 1099 00:44:55,000 --> 00:44:55,640 Speaker 3: Appreciate it. 1100 00:44:56,120 --> 00:44:59,000 Speaker 4: Thank you guys for always tuning in, watching or listening 1101 00:44:59,160 --> 00:45:01,680 Speaker 4: wherever you listen or pick up your podcast where this 1102 00:45:01,800 --> 00:45:04,879 Speaker 4: Apple podcast. iHeartRadio. Make sure you give us a five 1103 00:45:04,920 --> 00:45:06,920 Speaker 4: star rating. Tell a friend to tell a friend to 1104 00:45:06,960 --> 00:45:09,960 Speaker 4: do we there we go and appreciate it, give us 1105 00:45:09,960 --> 00:45:12,440 Speaker 4: a review, click that follow button. We'll hall let y'all later. 1106 00:45:12,520 --> 00:45:15,400 Speaker 4: Man Steven Tellick, thanks as always for listening to The 1107 00:45:15,560 --> 00:45:17,720 Speaker 4: NFL Player's Second Act podcast. 1108 00:45:17,880 --> 00:45:18,040 Speaker 3: It's