WEBVTT - Ohio Representative Jim Jordan Talks Midterm Elections

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<v Speaker 3>Republican Congressman Jim Jordan of Ohio's 4th District is joining

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<v Speaker 1>Mr.

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<v Speaker 3>Chairman, thanks for the time. Welcome back to Balance of Power.

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<v Speaker 3>When we consider this $ 5, 000 dividend, your colleague Tom Massey

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<v Speaker 3>said Congress has a few more days. I'm quoting him directly.

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<v Speaker 3>In session before the election, I should do a discharge

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<v Speaker 3>petition to give out $ 5, 000 checks before the election to

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<v Speaker 3>I wonder how many Republicans would sign it. It begs

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<v Speaker 3>the question, Mr. Chairman, why can't you just do this now?

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<v Speaker 3>You already have the majority.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, look, I want to see the proposal.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm always in favor of letting hardworking Americans, American families

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<v Speaker 2>keep more of their money, more of their money to

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<v Speaker 2>spend on their goals, their dreams, their kids, their grandkids,

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<v Speaker 2>their endeavors. So I'm always in favor of that. I

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<v Speaker 2>want to know how this program the president announced last

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<v Speaker 2>night might work. What I do know is the president

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<v Speaker 2>gave a great speech last night. There was a huge crowd,

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of energy, which I think we're going to

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<v Speaker 2>need as we as we go through this next 54

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<v Speaker 2>days in this election period. I think we can keep

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<v Speaker 2>the majority because I think we can go remind the

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<v Speaker 2>American people that just how radical the left has become.

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<v Speaker 2>And they now control the Democrat Party. And I think

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<v Speaker 2>if we do that and we also remind the American

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<v Speaker 2>voters about what we've done in cutting taxes, what we

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<v Speaker 2>have done in securing the border, I think we can win.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, just to go back to the suggestion that you

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<v Speaker 3>need to see the details of this proposal, should we

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<v Speaker 3>understand then that the president hasn't actually talked to Republicans

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<v Speaker 3>in Congress about this idea before he announced it on

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<v Speaker 3>that stage?

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<v Speaker 1>Well, we heard it last night in his speech.

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<v Speaker 2>Like I said, I thought it was a great speech,

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of energy here in the arena, but we

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<v Speaker 2>want to see the details. What I do know is

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<v Speaker 2>what we did in the big, beautiful bill, largest tax

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<v Speaker 2>cut in American history, letting families letting Americans keep their

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<v Speaker 2>money to spend on the things that they want to

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<v Speaker 2>spend it on. That's always better than government deciding to

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<v Speaker 2>spend it on some new crazy program. So I think

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<v Speaker 2>that that's good, empowering people with their letting them have

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<v Speaker 2>more of their money. I think it's a good idea.

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<v Speaker 2>But let's see how the I don't know all the

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<v Speaker 2>details of this plan that he announced last night in

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<v Speaker 2>his speech.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, when you consider then the wider picture, which you

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<v Speaker 3>were just speaking to on the government spending money, this

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<v Speaker 3>obviously is a program that could cost over a trillion dollars,

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<v Speaker 3>at least by a rough You mentioned the one big,

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<v Speaker 3>beautiful bill, which the Congressional Budget Office said could add

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<v Speaker 3>$ 4 trillion to the deficit over a decade. How is

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<v Speaker 3>any of this, frankly, Mr. Chairman, fiscally responsible? Is this

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<v Speaker 3>fiscally conservative?

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<v Speaker 1>Well, the tax cuts were one big beautiful build.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, letting people keep more of their money, letting

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<v Speaker 2>businesses keep more of their money, doing things that are

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<v Speaker 2>good for our economy and economic growth. Those are all positive.

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<v Speaker 2>This idea that somehow that's creating the deficit. No, it's

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<v Speaker 2>the spending side of the equation that's creating the deficits

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<v Speaker 2>and piling up the huge debt.

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<v Speaker 1>Now, that's a real problem. We're going to have to

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<v Speaker 1>address it.

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<v Speaker 2>I remember the headline in the Headline in the journal

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<v Speaker 2>back in January, it said this United States Senate class

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<v Speaker 2>will be the first Senate class which will have to

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<v Speaker 2>deal with the Social Security question because.

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<v Speaker 1>There's projected to be a shortfall.

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<v Speaker 2>So we got to make sure we honor that commitment,

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<v Speaker 2>make sure Americans get their money. Social Security is sound.

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<v Speaker 2>That is coming. So we do have to deal with

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<v Speaker 2>this debt problem. But cutting taxes, letting Americans keep their money,

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<v Speaker 2>that is not that doesn't add to the deficit. It's

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<v Speaker 2>the spending side of the equation itself. that adds to

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<v Speaker 2>the deficit. And that's what we got to work on

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<v Speaker 2>with some of the fraud that's going on, some of

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<v Speaker 2>the other things that we see government spending on. And

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<v Speaker 2>President Trump and his team have done good, good work

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<v Speaker 2>in that area, particularly in the fraud area.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, when we consider that President Trump and his team,

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<v Speaker 3>of course, were speaking at the convention, including the Treasury Secretary,

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<v Speaker 3>who has been trying to address the challenges arising in

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<v Speaker 3>the bond market because of this fiscal situation as well. And, sir,

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<v Speaker 3>the Attorney General of the United States, Todd Blanch, I

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<v Speaker 3>ask you this as the chair of the Judiciary Committee.

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<v Speaker 3>Should the Attorney General have had any business speaking at

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<v Speaker 3>a political convention like he did last night?

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<v Speaker 2>Todd Blanch is doing good work. I've been in Congress

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<v Speaker 2>19 years. He's the best Attorney General I've ever worked with.

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<v Speaker 2>I've been very impressed with with Attorney General Blanch and

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<v Speaker 2>his team. Colin McDonald, the guy that they put as

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<v Speaker 2>the point person for dealing with fraud and going after people,

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<v Speaker 2>the guy who got the indictments on these folks up

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<v Speaker 2>in Minnesota who were ripping off taxpayers.

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<v Speaker 1>Todd Blanch is doing good work.

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<v Speaker 2>I think it's very, very appropriate, completely fine for him

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<v Speaker 2>to address the crowd like he did last night. He

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<v Speaker 2>did a good job, and he's doing good work as

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<v Speaker 2>the Attorney General, giving us information that we never got

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<v Speaker 2>from Merrick Garland. doing things, exposing some of that, helping

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<v Speaker 2>us understand.

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<v Speaker 3>Completely what the previous administration was doing.

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<v Speaker 1>But if Merrick Garland had taken the stage.

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<v Speaker 3>At a political convention, would you not have had a

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<v Speaker 3>problem with that, Mr. Chairman? What of the Hatch Act?

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<v Speaker 2>My problem with Merrick Garland... was the fact that he

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<v Speaker 2>did the memorandum saying if you're showing up at a

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<v Speaker 2>school board meeting as a parent, somehow you're a bad

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<v Speaker 2>person and we need to spy on you. My problem

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<v Speaker 2>with Merrick Garland was when the FBI, under his leadership,

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<v Speaker 2>did the memorandum saying if you're a pro-life Catholic, you're

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<v Speaker 2>an extremist for goodness sake. Those were my problems with

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<v Speaker 2>Merrick Garland. I think Todd Blanch is cleaning up the place.

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<v Speaker 2>He's doing the work that you need to do as

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<v Speaker 2>Attorney General. And I've really enjoyed working with Mr. Blanch

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<v Speaker 2>and the work that they're doing in our Justice Department.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, let's talk about some of that work from the DOJ.

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<v Speaker 3>The DOJ, of course, has now made repeated asks to

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<v Speaker 3>the Supreme Court to allow mail-in ballot changes at the U.S.

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<v Speaker 3>Postal Service that the administration has pushed for to go forward.

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<v Speaker 3>We're 54 days out from an election, Mr. Chairman. The

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<v Speaker 3>fact that this remains an open legal question, what is

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<v Speaker 3>that going to do to Americans' confidence in our voting

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<v Speaker 3>system and in this method of voting that the president

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<v Speaker 3>himself has used repeatedly?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I mean, President Trump is trying to make sure

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<v Speaker 2>we have confidence in our voting.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, come on, Haley.

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<v Speaker 2>Everyone knows when you see what happens in California now,

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<v Speaker 2>every election, like we don't know the winner in some

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<v Speaker 2>of these races.

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<v Speaker 1>For two or three weeks. You've got to be kidding me.

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<v Speaker 2>So we're just trying to make sure that the elections

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<v Speaker 2>are fair, they are accurate, that people can have confidence

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<v Speaker 2>in how our system works. I know in Ohio... We

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<v Speaker 2>get results when the polls close. We get results within

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<v Speaker 2>an hour and a half, two hours. It's done, finished.

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<v Speaker 2>We know who won the way it's supposed to be.

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<v Speaker 2>So this idea that somehow in Nevada and California, it takes.

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<v Speaker 1>For New York.

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<v Speaker 2>It's always seems to be these blue states. It takes

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<v Speaker 2>forever to figure out who won a congressional race, who

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<v Speaker 2>won a governor.

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<v Speaker 1>That's ridiculous.

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<v Speaker 2>That undermines confidence. And President Trump is just trying to

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<v Speaker 2>make sure only citizens are voting. You got to have

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<v Speaker 2>a photo ID. Only people who are supposed to be

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<v Speaker 2>on the on the voting voter registration list are actually

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<v Speaker 2>there and participating in our elections. I think Americans want

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<v Speaker 2>that to be the situation. That's what he's trying to do.

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<v Speaker 3>Are you privy as the chair of the Judiciary Committee

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<v Speaker 3>to the actual data around how much mail in ballot

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<v Speaker 3>fraud is actually happening in states across the country? What

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<v Speaker 3>are the figures actually look like?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, we're doing an investigation led by one of our

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<v Speaker 2>subcommittee chairmen, Jeff Van Drew from New Jersey. And we

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<v Speaker 2>know in New Jersey, Mikey Sherrill come out and told

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<v Speaker 2>us 6,000 people, almost 7,000 people were on their voter

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<v Speaker 2>registration rolls who weren't citizens. And some of them actually

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<v Speaker 2>voted in an election. I don't think Americans appreciate that fact.

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<v Speaker 2>And what President Trump is trying to do is make

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<v Speaker 2>sure that that is not happening. That phenomenon is not

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<v Speaker 2>happening in other states. I think that's just something government

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<v Speaker 2>should be concerned about and government should deal with, which

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<v Speaker 2>is exactly what President Trump and his team are looking at.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, and you mentioned leading that investigation, given your current

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<v Speaker 3>gavel on the Judiciary Committee. Do you intend to keep that, Mr. Chairman,

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<v Speaker 3>in the committee? Or should we expect you to be

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<v Speaker 3>running for a leadership position, whether or not it's in

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<v Speaker 3>the majority or the minority?

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<v Speaker 1>I am focused on one thing.

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<v Speaker 2>We got 54 days to make sure Republicans keep the

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<v Speaker 2>House and keep the Senate. If the party that now

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<v Speaker 2>is being controlled by the Democrat Socialists The Mamdani crowd,

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<v Speaker 2>if they get in power, where they will take this

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<v Speaker 2>great nation is frightening. Remember what Mom Donnie said nine

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<v Speaker 2>months and ten days ago. He said, I was elected

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<v Speaker 2>as a Democrat Socialist. I will govern as a Democrat Socialist.

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<v Speaker 2>Where they want to go, they will undermine what this

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<v Speaker 2>country has always given its citizens.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a simple idea. You've got a goal. You've got

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<v Speaker 1>a dream. You work hard. Good things happen. They will undermine.

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<v Speaker 2>Look at their crazy principles that they're trying to do,

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<v Speaker 2>objectives that they're trying to accomplish.

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<v Speaker 1>It's really bad for the country.

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<v Speaker 2>That's the main message I think we've got to take

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<v Speaker 2>to the voters over the next seven and a half weeks.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, that may be where you think Democrats want to go,

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<v Speaker 3>but where do you want to go, Mr. Chairman? Will

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<v Speaker 3>you run for leadership is the question.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm focused on one thing. I want us to win.

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<v Speaker 1>I want us to win.

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<v Speaker 2>To me, what the left is up to, the once

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<v Speaker 2>great party of FDR and JFK is now controlled by

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<v Speaker 2>The the anti-Israel socialist crazy crowd. That's who's running the

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<v Speaker 2>Democrat Party. And frankly, the leadership of the Democrat Party.

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<v Speaker 2>I am focused on one thing, helping candidates. I've been

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<v Speaker 2>traveling all over the country, helping candidates and colleagues so

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<v Speaker 2>that we win and.

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<v Speaker 1>Keep the majority.

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<v Speaker 3>Max Miller included. Will he win, sir?

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<v Speaker 2>I'm helping Republican candidates across the board. Just helped one

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<v Speaker 2>today here in Texas, J.C.

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<v Speaker 1>Arborough.

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<v Speaker 2>Find a wonderful new candidate running in one of the

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<v Speaker 2>open seats here. Going to be a great lawyer. I

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<v Speaker 2>think hopefully be a great member of the Judiciary Committee

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<v Speaker 2>or whatever committees it gets on. But we were helping

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<v Speaker 2>him today. We helped another colleague yesterday, Keith Self, here

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<v Speaker 2>in the Texas area. We're helping Monica De La Cruz tomorrow,

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<v Speaker 2>going up to Oklahoma to help Mr. Tedford in Tulsa

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<v Speaker 2>on Saturday. So we're helping candidates all over the place.

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<v Speaker 2>The goal is to win, because if they win, they're

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<v Speaker 2>going to take the country in a bad, bad direction.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, that is certainly a very busy schedule. Do you plan, Mr. Chairman,

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<v Speaker 3>to help any Republican specifically get the gavel next on

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<v Speaker 3>the Judiciary Committee? Is there someone you would like to

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<v Speaker 3>see replace you?

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<v Speaker 2>We've got a lot of good candidates. That's up to

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<v Speaker 2>the steering committee and the conference. We'll let that process

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<v Speaker 2>play out. But we've got a lot of good candidates

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<v Speaker 2>who are interested in being the next chair.

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<v Speaker 3>OK, fair enough. Finally, night two here in Dallas. Obviously,

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<v Speaker 3>it's the vice president who will be giving the keynote speech.

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<v Speaker 3>Is it your expectation that he will be your party's

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<v Speaker 3>nominee in 2028? Would you like to see him be?

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<v Speaker 1>I think J.D.

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<v Speaker 2>'s done an outstanding job when he was a senator

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<v Speaker 2>of our great state. I think he's done an outstanding

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<v Speaker 2>job as vice president. I think he's certainly in the mix.

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<v Speaker 1>He'd be great.

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<v Speaker 2>But I think there's Secretary Rubio. I think there's Governor Youngkin.

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<v Speaker 2>I think there's Senator Cruz. And there are a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of people who may run. We got a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>one thing I know is we got a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>great candidates on our side that I think would be

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<v Speaker 2>great presidents. They got, you know, AOC and whoever else

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<v Speaker 2>they're going to, Gavin Newsom, whoever else they're going to,

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<v Speaker 2>they may nominate. I thought Senator McCormick last night did

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<v Speaker 2>an amazing job. I really appreciate Senator McCormick and what

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<v Speaker 2>he's done. I think he could ease in that mix

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<v Speaker 2>as well. So we got a number of great candidates.

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<v Speaker 2>And of course, the vice president from our great state

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<v Speaker 2>is right at the top.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>McCormick introduced by Democratic Senator John Fetterman. I got to say, Mr. Chairman,

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<v Speaker 3>I don't think many people were expecting that one. Thank

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<v Speaker 3>you for joining Bloomberg TV and Radio Live from the

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<v Speaker 3>convention hall here in Dallas. The chair of the Judiciary Committee.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm out of time, Mr. Chairman. Come back to Bloomberg

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<v Speaker 3>and we'll talk further. I appreciate your time.