WEBVTT - Houston, We Have A Problem… A Love Problem 0:00:00.520 --> 0:00:03.800 Ridiculous Crime is a production of My Heart Radio. Hey, 0:00:03.920 --> 0:00:08.879 Elizabeth done Zarin Burnett, do you know what's ridiculous? I do? Oh? 0:00:09.320 --> 0:00:13.920 I do you? Yes. Now this is a departure. I 0:00:13.920 --> 0:00:16.160 don't normally do these sort of things, but I have. 0:00:16.640 --> 0:00:19.520 I have a product mash up for you. What is 0:00:19.520 --> 0:00:23.800 a product mash up? It's ridiculous. Like, here's the thing, 0:00:24.640 --> 0:00:29.480 it's a These are gold mines of ridiculousness. They're always ridiculous. 0:00:29.640 --> 0:00:31.680 Oh yes, and so much fun to picture. And all 0:00:31.720 --> 0:00:35.640 of our rude dudes, our listeners out there constantly send 0:00:35.720 --> 0:00:38.160 more and more in. You're telling me they're all working 0:00:38.200 --> 0:00:44.839 against me, yes, and with you, but working through the 0:00:44.880 --> 0:00:48.040 power of ridiculous. I also know I picture everything you say. 0:00:50.240 --> 0:00:53.440 I mean seriously, like best listeners in the world. We 0:00:53.440 --> 0:00:58.320 already know that, but they come through. So this one. Um. 0:00:58.440 --> 0:01:02.800 You know how Core's light can we used to call 0:01:02.840 --> 0:01:07.160 it Sewers lights light. You know how the cans change 0:01:07.200 --> 0:01:11.000 color to you know, yeah, because it's the coldest tasting beer. 0:01:11.800 --> 0:01:14.800 I'm sorry, but it's as cold as the rockies. Um. 0:01:14.880 --> 0:01:17.679 So like that. In two thousand and seven they did 0:01:17.680 --> 0:01:21.039 the color changing labels. Um. But now they're like, well, 0:01:21.080 --> 0:01:23.960 what happens if I poured into a pint glass? How 0:01:24.040 --> 0:01:25.680 is anyone going to know how cold their beer is 0:01:25.720 --> 0:01:27.880 supposed to be? Oh, that is a problem because so 0:01:27.920 --> 0:01:29.959 many people are drinking cors light out of my pint 0:01:30.000 --> 0:01:34.920 glass or it just like the couzy covers it up 0:01:35.000 --> 0:01:40.840 like a draft style. That's how I likes light? Can 0:01:40.880 --> 0:01:45.559 I interest you? Um? So it's very hoppy. They they've 0:01:45.600 --> 0:01:48.960 come up with a product. It also changes colors. It 0:01:49.000 --> 0:01:52.200 goes from silver to mountain blue. Oh my god, I 0:01:52.240 --> 0:01:55.360 can only imagine the chemical involved in this. It is 0:01:55.520 --> 0:02:03.880 nail polish, and it's called chill polished. So it said 0:02:03.960 --> 0:02:07.640 the brand says, you paint your nails, hold your pint glass, 0:02:07.720 --> 0:02:11.080 and voila, see the blue or not so blue? If 0:02:11.080 --> 0:02:15.799 your beer's too warm, results going through the whole thing 0:02:15.919 --> 0:02:20.000 through your fingertips. And this does not sound like I 0:02:20.000 --> 0:02:22.359 thought you'd have to like rest your fingernails against the 0:02:22.400 --> 0:02:25.280 outside of the pint glass. So now my finger is 0:02:25.280 --> 0:02:27.919 a mood ring for my beer. I guess. Well, here's 0:02:27.919 --> 0:02:29.919 the thing is. It's like it's supposed to be what 0:02:30.000 --> 0:02:34.160 forty three degrees or something? Is there whatever, So it's 0:02:34.200 --> 0:02:37.320 it's pretty much. You can tell what the temperature is outside. 0:02:37.320 --> 0:02:40.800 I guess if you do that, no, when you're walking 0:02:40.840 --> 0:02:42.959 to the bus stop and you look like, oh dang, 0:02:43.000 --> 0:02:46.560 it is cold down here. Um. So here's here's what 0:02:46.600 --> 0:02:49.360 they said the holiday. This holiday season, Corse Light is 0:02:49.400 --> 0:02:53.160 bringing chill right to your fingertips. Coors Light should always 0:02:53.200 --> 0:02:55.760 be served as cold as the Rockies. But sometimes it's 0:02:55.760 --> 0:02:57.720 hard to know when you're drinking from a pint glass. 0:02:58.120 --> 0:03:00.480 Sometimes it's hard to know what is going on your life. 0:03:01.400 --> 0:03:04.840 So we've brought our cold activated technology to nail polish 0:03:04.919 --> 0:03:06.880 to ensure your pine of beer is just the right 0:03:06.919 --> 0:03:11.640 temperature dip your finger into it. So we got nail 0:03:11.680 --> 0:03:15.720 polished for all over Cores Light drinkers. As a former admin, 0:03:15.840 --> 0:03:21.360 can I producer, Dave please tap the Rockies? Was right there, 0:03:23.000 --> 0:03:25.760 Take your nail tap them against the glass because you're 0:03:25.800 --> 0:03:32.240 tapping the Rockies that opportunity you know, well, you know 0:03:32.280 --> 0:03:35.080 what for all of these products that I am pushing, 0:03:36.160 --> 0:03:38.440 why aren't they sending me free samples? And that I 0:03:38.480 --> 0:03:42.360 am You're welcome Cores at me. They also said that 0:03:42.400 --> 0:03:44.320 it's not just for the ladies, that men can wear 0:03:44.320 --> 0:03:47.520 it too. I know, a lot of guys who were 0:03:47.640 --> 0:03:55.400 nail polished, and none of them are. I have a 0:03:55.400 --> 0:03:58.480 lot of dead beat friends. No, I actually I don't 0:03:58.480 --> 0:04:04.560 think you know what you want to drinks core. I'm sorry, No, 0:04:04.680 --> 0:04:06.080 I don't dragon, but I have friends who do it. 0:04:06.120 --> 0:04:08.240 I'm embarrassed for that. Let's get them some nail I'm 0:04:08.240 --> 0:04:10.760 going to get them nail polishing right here, you go, Well, 0:04:10.880 --> 0:04:13.920 ask santi clause for it. It's seven dollars a bottle 0:04:14.400 --> 0:04:17.120 at the Cores Light shop on line and if you 0:04:17.160 --> 0:04:18.560 wait a couple of months, we'll be at the dollar 0:04:18.680 --> 0:04:25.720 store or yeah. Probably So that is ridiculous, certified, sealed 0:04:25.760 --> 0:04:30.440 and delivered. Wow. Okay, Well, if you got a second 0:04:30.520 --> 0:04:33.200 before you go, I have something ridiculous for you. Yes, 0:04:33.520 --> 0:04:36.200 it doesn't evolve any cold changing technology. But it does 0:04:36.320 --> 0:04:40.480 involve technology. I like technology and love. I like love. 0:04:40.560 --> 0:04:43.320 Imagine a love story, Elizabeth. Okay, Now this love story 0:04:43.360 --> 0:04:49.040 turns into a love triangle featuring not one, but two astronauts. Yes, 0:04:49.320 --> 0:04:51.839 and one of the astronauts while wearing an adult diaper, 0:04:52.200 --> 0:04:54.320 they never have to pull over for bathroom breaks. Drives 0:04:54.400 --> 0:04:57.920 nine miles NonStop across five states so they can confront 0:04:57.920 --> 0:05:03.280 their love rival and break up the triangle. Remember this, 0:05:03.400 --> 0:05:27.080 we have a problem, a love problem. This is Ridiculous Crime, 0:05:27.240 --> 0:05:31.560 a podcast about absurd and outrageous capers, heists, and cons. 0:05:32.040 --> 0:05:38.760 It's always Night nine Present, murder Free and Ridiculous Elizabeth. 0:05:39.720 --> 0:05:43.240 We don't cover enough love stories. We really don't. I mean, 0:05:43.279 --> 0:05:45.560 like I feel kind of I've been loath about that. 0:05:45.600 --> 0:05:48.039 I mean, I had Guy Fieri, but I really haven't 0:05:48.040 --> 0:05:50.800 been looking to the love stories. Now, this week, I 0:05:50.839 --> 0:05:52.360 want to tell you about a love story that may 0:05:52.400 --> 0:05:54.120 live on the fringes of your memory. You said you 0:05:54.200 --> 0:05:56.560 kind of remember that. Okay. It's the story of the 0:05:56.600 --> 0:05:59.600 adult Diaper in the Astronaut Love Triangle, which, by the way, 0:05:59.680 --> 0:06:01.279 that'd be a great name for, like a new wave 0:06:01.320 --> 0:06:05.599 punk band, adult adult Diaper in the Astronaut Loves your Angle. 0:06:05.800 --> 0:06:11.480 I like it. I'd want to be yeah. Okay. Now 0:06:11.480 --> 0:06:15.040 our hero, our heroine today is Lisa no Wack. She 0:06:15.160 --> 0:06:18.640 was a NaSTA astronaut and are ridiculous criminal now. Lisa 0:06:18.760 --> 0:06:22.080 no Wack was being an astronaut a badass. Now she 0:06:22.200 --> 0:06:26.160 was driven the very goals oriented. She's raised in Maryland. 0:06:26.160 --> 0:06:28.599 She graduates from high school in nineteen one, and she 0:06:28.640 --> 0:06:32.080 attends the U S Naval Academy. A good job for you, Lisa. 0:06:32.320 --> 0:06:35.200 She leaves with a degree in aerospace engineering. She goes 0:06:35.240 --> 0:06:39.240 to graduate program in aerospace engineering that follows. Then after 0:06:39.320 --> 0:06:43.240 getting her graduate degree, she graduates from Naval Test Pilot School, 0:06:43.600 --> 0:06:47.400 step after step after step. June seven, she earns her wings, 0:06:47.440 --> 0:06:50.479 becomes a Naval flight officer. Now in the cockpit, she 0:06:50.520 --> 0:06:54.960 flies over thirty different aircraft. She's amazing, fift undred flight hours. 0:06:55.200 --> 0:06:57.720 Just like I said, total badass. Then she goes on 0:06:57.760 --> 0:07:06.440 to become an aerospace engineer for ASSA. She's a badass. Okay, 0:07:06.520 --> 0:07:10.680 I'll see myself up in six she gets selected to 0:07:10.760 --> 0:07:14.040 join NASA Astronaut Core, which is the training program at 0:07:14.080 --> 0:07:17.880 Johnson Space Center in Houston. As you well know, and 0:07:18.080 --> 0:07:21.520 Houston is where Missing Control is located. Thus Houston, we 0:07:21.560 --> 0:07:24.040 have a problem. Now, before we dive into her time 0:07:24.040 --> 0:07:25.600 at NASA, Elizabeth, I would like to tell you a 0:07:25.640 --> 0:07:29.000 little bit more about Lisa, No act to more about 0:07:29.000 --> 0:07:31.280 this woman. Yeah, because they said total go get her, 0:07:31.640 --> 0:07:36.000 straight shooter, total focused, badass, just real cowboy. I'm telling 0:07:36.000 --> 0:07:39.360 you she is a heroic figure of the American dream. Right, 0:07:39.600 --> 0:07:43.520 But Lisa also is complicated, contains multitudes. She likes to 0:07:43.640 --> 0:07:46.560 currently her stamps. She likes to fill out crossword puzzles. 0:07:46.640 --> 0:07:49.080 She loves gourmet cooking and going sailing. She's an avid 0:07:49.160 --> 0:07:52.200 runner and cyclist. She's also a skeet shooter, and she 0:07:52.240 --> 0:07:55.200 loves the soft look and feel of the African violet 0:07:55.240 --> 0:07:57.480 her favorite flower. I read a lot about Lisa. It 0:07:57.520 --> 0:08:02.080 sounds like like her personal total. Well, it's funny. NASA 0:08:02.120 --> 0:08:03.840 has these files and all the astronauts, and it has 0:08:03.880 --> 0:08:06.840 like their likes and dislikes, like long walks, moonlit nights. 0:08:06.840 --> 0:08:11.800 You know. Anyway, so she's also a dedicated and loving mother. Now. 0:08:11.840 --> 0:08:14.000 In an interview that she did with Ladies Home Journal, 0:08:14.480 --> 0:08:17.400 Lisa talked about the difficulties of being an astronaut mom, 0:08:17.440 --> 0:08:19.520 and she said, and I quote along the way, when 0:08:19.560 --> 0:08:21.800 I was going through all the baby training and all that, 0:08:21.880 --> 0:08:23.640 even my mother was questioning it, how are you going 0:08:23.680 --> 0:08:25.400 to be able to do all these things? Well? I 0:08:25.480 --> 0:08:28.440 don't know. I'll find out as I go, right. I 0:08:28.520 --> 0:08:30.880 like her attitude. She got plucked, you know, that's what 0:08:30.920 --> 0:08:33.280 you want from an astro not now. Her husband also 0:08:33.320 --> 0:08:37.240 a NASA guy, so he worked at Mission Control in Houston, 0:08:38.120 --> 0:08:40.400 which means to dude's super busy too. He's doing all 0:08:40.400 --> 0:08:42.800 the same stuff, working seventy hour weeks. Now he may 0:08:42.800 --> 0:08:45.640 be guessing, oh, what does this mean for parenting duties? 0:08:45.760 --> 0:08:48.280 Is you know, Lisa the primary caregiver? It is the 0:08:48.360 --> 0:08:51.800 late eighties early nineties were talking about the expectations for 0:08:51.880 --> 0:08:54.480 men were a little different. What they could get away 0:08:54.520 --> 0:08:56.680 with was a little different in terms of not doing. 0:08:57.360 --> 0:08:59.960 By all accounts, though, he was a very involved father, 0:09:00.200 --> 0:09:03.679 so he was a total partner with her. They were 0:09:03.679 --> 0:09:06.720 also a very popular couple, you know, very astronauty, like, 0:09:06.760 --> 0:09:08.560 you know, having parties and all that. But at the 0:09:08.600 --> 0:09:11.120 same time, not only were they socially active, they didn't 0:09:11.160 --> 0:09:13.320 wear their astronaut on their sleeves, like they didn't want 0:09:13.360 --> 0:09:15.439 to be known as Like, they didn't wear like silky 0:09:15.600 --> 0:09:18.840 jackets that said like Mr and Mrs astro Pop and 0:09:18.840 --> 0:09:21.960 we're just saw, hey, everybody coming over making jokes about 0:09:21.960 --> 0:09:23.560 their moon boots. We were not going to move. But 0:09:23.600 --> 0:09:27.360 they're like, God, now they're like the people who go 0:09:27.400 --> 0:09:29.480 away for semester and all they talk about is like 0:09:30.440 --> 0:09:33.360 and then I don't know, like when you're in space, 0:09:33.600 --> 0:09:37.920 it's a little bit different. You wouldn't understand now, Elizabeth, 0:09:37.920 --> 0:09:40.600 When I say astronaut, what do you think of? Like? 0:09:40.640 --> 0:09:42.880 Who do you think of? What does astronaut mean to you? 0:09:45.080 --> 0:09:46.959 I feel like you're making me right, like a sixth 0:09:47.000 --> 0:09:53.160 grade essay? What astronauts mean to me? I think of? I? Okay, 0:09:53.200 --> 0:09:56.760 this is how small and and bizarrely taped together. My 0:09:56.840 --> 0:10:01.720 brain is always think of like, you know, you have 0:10:01.800 --> 0:10:05.120 like the person and like the moon suit, right, but 0:10:05.200 --> 0:10:08.040 I have I have these ear rings that are a 0:10:08.160 --> 0:10:11.360 little astronaut guys, and like ones like reaching out. The 0:10:11.400 --> 0:10:13.040 other one is just kind of like, I don't know, 0:10:13.120 --> 0:10:17.199 bending over something inappropriate. I just admit that's what I think. 0:10:17.400 --> 0:10:22.280 What you think inappropriately sexually stage astronauts? Better ear rings? 0:10:22.640 --> 0:10:24.679 You went? You went? I was just caring. I knew 0:10:24.679 --> 0:10:27.960 it was going to be a good answer. And one 0:10:28.440 --> 0:10:30.520 well for a lot of people. There's the moon man 0:10:30.600 --> 0:10:34.400 the MTV with the big glass helmet. So I don't 0:10:34.400 --> 0:10:37.200 see them like in a pod, like flying through the 0:10:37.240 --> 0:10:40.920 air whatever. I'd see them floating and I like that 0:10:41.040 --> 0:10:45.600 and like tethered to nothing, floating in space and having 0:10:45.640 --> 0:10:49.560 like their tether unattached in their fine did you like that, 0:10:49.600 --> 0:10:55.160 George cloy Yes, the space travel it used to be 0:10:55.240 --> 0:10:59.200 one of the most exciting things human beings. Are you 0:10:59.360 --> 0:11:02.719 still pretty exciting? Yeah, but that's I mean it. No, 0:11:02.800 --> 0:11:04.880 I don't mean me. I think the general public is 0:11:04.920 --> 0:11:07.520 over it in terms of it being so wow and amazing. 0:11:07.559 --> 0:11:09.080 It used to be like our future. We were going 0:11:09.120 --> 0:11:11.960 to be space traveling apes, right, and then now that 0:11:12.040 --> 0:11:14.400 just boils down to Elon Musk is taking up tomorrow. 0:11:14.440 --> 0:11:17.439 That's not well whatever, But like all the rich guys 0:11:17.480 --> 0:11:20.120 going into quote unquote space, you're not going into like 0:11:20.240 --> 0:11:23.040 space first. Yeah, you know, the low Earth orbit and 0:11:23.040 --> 0:11:27.240 all that off it would be brought back to Earth. 0:11:27.280 --> 0:11:29.360 They're not like all anti gravity and like do you 0:11:29.400 --> 0:11:32.240 think that happened? They would come back? Yeah? Or you 0:11:32.240 --> 0:11:34.400 know the other thing I think of with astronauts, astronaut 0:11:34.440 --> 0:11:37.160 Mark Kelly. Yeah, right, well he will show up in 0:11:37.160 --> 0:11:39.840 this story because I know how much you like him. No, wait, 0:11:39.960 --> 0:11:43.120 he's okay. Now, it turns out if you think about it. 0:11:43.160 --> 0:11:45.000 What I mean about this whole the space age and 0:11:45.000 --> 0:11:47.440 all the stuff that was the cool like Kennedy era 0:11:47.520 --> 0:11:50.920 start of the space program that lasted for decades, We'll 0:11:50.960 --> 0:11:53.000 buy the nineties, don't really cared if there was a 0:11:53.000 --> 0:11:56.719 new Shuttle launch. Yeah, no one was excited to see it. 0:11:56.800 --> 0:11:58.200 They weren't like if you tell it like it's an 0:11:58.200 --> 0:12:00.840 astronaut coming to your school. It wasn't the same as 0:12:00.880 --> 0:12:03.240 in nineteen seventy two if an astronaut was coming, I 0:12:03.240 --> 0:12:05.360 will I will give you that. You know who gets 0:12:05.440 --> 0:12:10.640 fired up still, Neil de grasse Tyson, I guess, don't 0:12:10.640 --> 0:12:16.160 you think I don't know who? I don't track. I'm 0:12:16.200 --> 0:12:18.640 just vollowing here. I feel like he would. I bet 0:12:18.640 --> 0:12:21.680 he does. As it turns out, the space race and 0:12:21.720 --> 0:12:24.520 all that it was apparently mostly a response to the 0:12:24.600 --> 0:12:28.520 Soviet dream of expansion into space and lunar conquest. In 0:12:28.559 --> 0:12:31.880 the US, we spent billions to beat the Soviets to Moon. 0:12:32.280 --> 0:12:34.600 We get there first, a lot of win the space race. 0:12:34.880 --> 0:12:38.199 We keep doing programs, but once the Soviet Union collapses, 0:12:38.440 --> 0:12:40.880 so does our desire to go to space. Yeah, we 0:12:40.960 --> 0:12:42.760 really look at it and the numbers. It's not me. 0:12:42.920 --> 0:12:44.640 This is like just like, oh so we really just 0:12:44.760 --> 0:12:47.760 we're doing this because they were doing Okay, So now 0:12:47.880 --> 0:12:51.400 the culture though, we we have embraced space as a people. 0:12:51.480 --> 0:12:53.120 I mean it does not matter what we're talking about, 0:12:53.120 --> 0:12:57.120 from Star Wars to Star Trek to whatever, the Avengers 0:12:57.160 --> 0:13:00.480 of Endgame, everybody. Space is the place where you areagination 0:13:00.520 --> 0:13:06.520 because for the helpful astronaut guy, exactly, sorry, it faces 0:13:06.600 --> 0:13:09.280 the place, so you know, but it is right like 0:13:09.320 --> 0:13:11.840 you think about it. For design, aesthetics and cars were 0:13:11.840 --> 0:13:15.080 made to look like rockets and looks like rockets, and 0:13:15.160 --> 0:13:16.360 you know what I'm saying, it's like it just took 0:13:16.400 --> 0:13:19.440 over things you wouldn't anticipate, like your butter design may 0:13:19.480 --> 0:13:23.840 be shaped by space. Well, the product like the outside 0:13:23.880 --> 0:13:28.199 like I don't know, like but we started that like 0:13:28.880 --> 0:13:33.320 everyday products saved an unexpected race by the was shaped 0:13:33.440 --> 0:13:37.840 like a rocket. No, not that, like the container shaped 0:13:37.880 --> 0:13:41.640 like a stick. I don't like it shaped like butter 0:13:42.520 --> 0:13:47.079 to tell you you brought it up. What I mean 0:13:47.760 --> 0:13:53.240 it was the butter is a It's a possible example 0:13:53.280 --> 0:13:57.000 of what could have been shaped and inspired by the 0:13:57.080 --> 0:14:00.319 space race. In this case a terrible example. If you 0:14:00.480 --> 0:14:02.679 were having company over and you let the butter get 0:14:02.720 --> 0:14:05.320 sopped and you rolled it into a rough ball in 0:14:05.360 --> 0:14:08.520 your hand. It looks like a meteor, and then you 0:14:08.559 --> 0:14:12.360 have people and you just hold your hand out. Can 0:14:12.400 --> 0:14:14.840 you go space? This is space age and they go, 0:14:14.920 --> 0:14:19.360 oh cool, put that on my bread. Would you like 0:14:19.480 --> 0:14:24.240 some space butter? So my point being astronauts, Yes, the 0:14:24.280 --> 0:14:26.800 brave ones who were willing to be shot off the 0:14:26.840 --> 0:14:29.560 surface of the Earth used to be impressive. That used 0:14:29.560 --> 0:14:32.640 to be cool. And these people they were doing this, 0:14:32.680 --> 0:14:34.560 they're being shot off the surface of the Earth with 0:14:34.600 --> 0:14:37.320 the full confidence that us we would get them back. 0:14:37.880 --> 0:14:40.160 Like that's wild. You all look drifting off into space. 0:14:40.200 --> 0:14:45.880 It was a real risk and totally or just as 0:14:46.240 --> 0:14:49.120 as you now point out, which thank you, is very accurate, 0:14:49.520 --> 0:14:52.720 a rocket is not a safe place to work. I 0:14:52.720 --> 0:14:56.160 don't think I would approve that, like okay, well, there's 0:14:56.160 --> 0:14:59.400 also like the re entry thing, like we're just gonna holp. 0:14:59.440 --> 0:15:03.680 We got enough stuff around. Get this angle right, Tom. Yeah. 0:15:04.560 --> 0:15:08.280 The commander of the Apolos sixteen lunar landing mission, Captain 0:15:08.360 --> 0:15:11.760 John Young, who obviously knows this stuff very well, far 0:15:11.800 --> 0:15:15.360 better than I, and I quote, said this of the 0:15:15.480 --> 0:15:18.440 dangers of his job. You put some people on top 0:15:18.440 --> 0:15:21.520 of four million pounds of high explosives, You light the fuse, 0:15:21.600 --> 0:15:23.640 and an eight and a half minutes, they're going eight 0:15:23.680 --> 0:15:26.080 times faster than a rifle bullet. What part of that 0:15:26.120 --> 0:15:30.360 sounds safe to you? Zero part of it. No part 0:15:30.360 --> 0:15:36.160 of it sounds safe to me, sir No, sir no, sir. Well, 0:15:36.600 --> 0:15:38.920 that is, you know, for the public to understand in 0:15:39.320 --> 0:15:41.640 grand terms what it is the dangers of their job. Now, 0:15:41.680 --> 0:15:44.560 this would include the Space Shuttle, which people kind of forget. 0:15:44.600 --> 0:15:47.240 It's like, oh, it became mundane, but it's still super 0:15:47.560 --> 0:15:49.800 because it looks like a space school bus. But that 0:15:49.920 --> 0:15:55.480 thing is like, that's hardcore, hardcore. You know, it does 0:15:55.520 --> 0:15:58.680 not have a moment of silence and respect. Will you 0:15:58.760 --> 0:16:01.360 be respectful for the first time in your life about this, saren? 0:16:01.520 --> 0:16:07.800 Does that evolve standing up straight? That's hard? Good? Okay, 0:16:07.840 --> 0:16:09.640 So Elizabeth, you had to guess how much you think 0:16:09.680 --> 0:16:14.720 it costs to launch a space shuttle dollars you want 0:16:14.760 --> 0:16:19.880 to know, I don't know. Five billion dollars space shuttle 0:16:20.160 --> 0:16:23.600 is it's very expensive? That much? Is it one of 0:16:23.600 --> 0:16:26.120 those if you have to ask it can't afford it. 0:16:27.280 --> 0:16:31.040 In line with that, it costs one billion dollars every launch, 0:16:31.960 --> 0:16:34.080 every single launched, one billion dollars. That's what we like 0:16:34.120 --> 0:16:36.840 to check. We signed as taxpayers, like one billion dollars 0:16:37.440 --> 0:16:40.960 tax payers. Now, the reason why is it takes three 0:16:41.160 --> 0:16:45.880 million individual pieces to construct a space shuttle, and those 0:16:45.920 --> 0:16:49.400 three million individual pieces are constructed by industries in all 0:16:49.520 --> 0:16:56.160 fifty states Congress, right, and that's good, and twenty workers 0:16:56.160 --> 0:16:59.120 to prepare this one shuttle. Their labor goes into it. 0:16:59.200 --> 0:17:02.240 So it was a very costly, labor intensive practice. And 0:17:02.280 --> 0:17:04.080 so that's why NASA was like, can we get someone 0:17:04.080 --> 0:17:07.359 else to do this? I'm saying it because also what 0:17:07.480 --> 0:17:10.920 this means is they have to constantly spend this charm camp, 0:17:11.000 --> 0:17:13.440 spend money on a charm campaign making astronauts, and what 0:17:13.480 --> 0:17:16.280 they're doing seem amazing. So we'll keep signing the checks 0:17:16.400 --> 0:17:20.280 right now, as I want to get to the the 0:17:20.320 --> 0:17:23.520 real heart of the DC astronauts what this does for them. 0:17:23.560 --> 0:17:25.320 We're going to talk a little bit about space travel, 0:17:25.960 --> 0:17:28.480 but first let's take a break. Let's talk about some 0:17:28.520 --> 0:17:34.920 products by space travel. We'll after this little break, we'll 0:17:34.920 --> 0:17:38.119 be back with more from Lisa Nowak and the adult typers. 0:17:58.320 --> 0:18:03.359 Elizabeth A promised i'd take you to space bottom vote. 0:18:03.480 --> 0:18:08.280 I mean that figuratively. Let's just go back and talk 0:18:08.320 --> 0:18:10.400 to that. At the very beginning of the space program, briefly, 0:18:10.920 --> 0:18:13.760 those first brave test pilots who become the astronauts, and 0:18:13.800 --> 0:18:16.080 the Mercury program that they you know, they go up 0:18:16.160 --> 0:18:18.800 strapped rockets literally. Then we had those are the guys, 0:18:18.800 --> 0:18:21.040 the right stuff, guys Tom Wolfe talks about. Then we 0:18:21.080 --> 0:18:23.680 get to the Apollo astronatzos are the ones who walk 0:18:23.760 --> 0:18:26.640 on the Moon. And then they also had the probably 0:18:26.680 --> 0:18:29.320 the bravest self rescue ever in about Paulo thirteen when 0:18:29.359 --> 0:18:32.920 they had to, you know, with Tom Hanks manage their 0:18:32.960 --> 0:18:36.399 re entry so they didn't burn up. Tom Hanks. Yeah, yeah, 0:18:36.520 --> 0:18:40.960 Well he's a national treasure, he really really is. Then, obviously, 0:18:41.040 --> 0:18:42.919 the space program goes through some hard times in the 0:18:43.000 --> 0:18:45.480 nineteen eighties. There's a Challenger explosion, which was one of 0:18:45.520 --> 0:18:47.800 the space shows after being excited by the Space Shuttle 0:18:47.840 --> 0:18:50.600 program in nineteen eighty and by eight six you get 0:18:50.640 --> 0:18:54.720 the Challenger. Then you have the nineties and the early 0:18:55.359 --> 0:18:57.920 program continues, and then we have in two thousand three 0:18:57.920 --> 0:19:00.960 the Columbia explosion. So the program went through a lot 0:19:01.040 --> 0:19:04.080 of really difficult periods that we were aware of. But 0:19:04.160 --> 0:19:08.000 prior to that, you know, it was amazing, amazing, amazing, right. Well, 0:19:08.000 --> 0:19:09.879 and there's all sorts of stuff always going on at 0:19:09.920 --> 0:19:12.640 like the International Space Station that we don't like keep 0:19:12.680 --> 0:19:15.439 track of. There they're they're up there. Oh yeah, totally, 0:19:15.520 --> 0:19:19.960 they're watching us, staying up there where we can't get 0:19:20.000 --> 0:19:22.320 to them. I can't see them. Would you ever want 0:19:22.320 --> 0:19:23.280 to go up there? Would you ever want to go 0:19:23.320 --> 0:19:30.040 to space? Really? That was quick you thought about this, okay, 0:19:30.320 --> 0:19:31.960 but I'm guessing you would be all over that. I 0:19:32.000 --> 0:19:34.720 would go anywhere you putting on a rocket. We're gonna 0:19:34.720 --> 0:19:36.159 shoot you to Mongolia. I'm like, as long as I 0:19:36.160 --> 0:19:40.080 got to ride a rocket, I don't care anyway. But 0:19:40.680 --> 0:19:42.840 the astronauts, as I tell you before, NASA used to 0:19:42.840 --> 0:19:46.280 always like kind of position them, He's like super cool, 0:19:46.720 --> 0:19:49.600 like bigger than life characters, right, And they did that 0:19:49.640 --> 0:19:52.160 because they had to justify the budgets and so forth, 0:19:52.240 --> 0:19:54.639 but also it was good for the American spirit at 0:19:54.640 --> 0:19:57.280 the time and so forth. But the one thing that 0:19:57.320 --> 0:19:59.760 we never really talked about is the reality of being 0:19:59.800 --> 0:20:02.520 an astronaut, which is that for often for astronauts, their 0:20:02.520 --> 0:20:06.359 time and space was something that left them emotionally disconnected, depressed, 0:20:07.280 --> 0:20:09.679 and blew. And we don't hear about that because they 0:20:09.680 --> 0:20:13.200 didn't want to risk the program. Yeah, I had no idea. 0:20:13.359 --> 0:20:15.320 I didn't either. I at least it's not something that 0:20:15.400 --> 0:20:18.240 was I didn't know how common it was. Basically, there 0:20:18.320 --> 0:20:21.040 is apparently a profound perspective shift that comes when you 0:20:21.080 --> 0:20:23.440 go and do space travel, Like if you can see 0:20:23.480 --> 0:20:25.840 the whole Earth at once, that tends to unsettle you 0:20:25.880 --> 0:20:28.600 a little essentially, and or to put it another way, 0:20:28.600 --> 0:20:30.520 if you can leave the planet and come back, it's 0:20:30.560 --> 0:20:33.080 kind of like a near death experience. For some people, 0:20:33.080 --> 0:20:35.880 it did really jars them. And you know, it's also 0:20:35.920 --> 0:20:37.800 if you want to be more grand, it's more like reincarnation. 0:20:37.840 --> 0:20:39.399 You went to the heavens and came back to right. 0:20:39.560 --> 0:20:41.080 You know, however you want to look at it, it's 0:20:41.080 --> 0:20:43.080 wild for the person who goes through it. I can 0:20:43.240 --> 0:20:45.640 I can imagine that. I never thought of it that way. Right, 0:20:45.680 --> 0:20:48.080 and the buzz Aldrind he was the second man to 0:20:48.119 --> 0:20:50.359 walk on the Moon. He was an astronaut, doubled up, 0:20:50.359 --> 0:20:52.239 did a lot of stuff in space, and he's an 0:20:52.280 --> 0:20:57.360 undeniable badass total like, you know, amazing brain, amazing willpower. 0:20:57.560 --> 0:20:59.479 It's hard to question the guy. You're not gonna be like, oh, 0:20:59.520 --> 0:21:01.960 he's not off, but he would often talk about how 0:21:02.119 --> 0:21:05.040 going to UH, taking his trips to space changed him. 0:21:05.040 --> 0:21:06.680 He would essentially say that he fell into a deep 0:21:06.760 --> 0:21:10.640 darkness after returning to Earth. It was a morass of despair, 0:21:10.720 --> 0:21:13.600 he said, not unlike say the inky abyss of space. 0:21:13.680 --> 0:21:17.399 But in buzz Aldred's book Returned to Earth, he talks 0:21:17.440 --> 0:21:19.720 about how this darkness impinged on his life. He talked 0:21:19.720 --> 0:21:22.600 about how the times he'd be crying alone. He talked 0:21:22.640 --> 0:21:25.320 about how much he drank the blues he felt all 0:21:25.400 --> 0:21:28.560 his many affairs. He basically discovered there was a huge 0:21:28.680 --> 0:21:32.359 country mile wide self destructive streak that ran down the 0:21:32.359 --> 0:21:35.240 center of his soul. That's really brave to talk about too, 0:21:35.440 --> 0:21:37.840 you know, like to admit it and confront it. He 0:21:37.920 --> 0:21:40.120 hit it for a very very long time, and then 0:21:40.119 --> 0:21:42.600 it eventually came out, and so he started trying to 0:21:42.640 --> 0:21:45.400 like shepherd some of the younger astronauts. And I will 0:21:45.400 --> 0:21:47.399 get back to him in a second, but the actor 0:21:47.400 --> 0:21:50.400 William Shatner recently went to space in one of your 0:21:50.440 --> 0:21:56.800 Low Earth or like went to space fingers now, Jeff Bezos, 0:21:56.840 --> 0:21:59.320 he said, hey, I'll take you to Elizabeth Space, and 0:21:59.359 --> 0:22:02.200 he'd takes the trip right, but it blew Captain kirk 0:22:02.200 --> 0:22:04.479 while the actor who played Captain kirk Away and and 0:22:04.600 --> 0:22:08.320 I will quote briefly from Shad, he was kind of 0:22:08.320 --> 0:22:10.920 surprisingly bleak about this. He said, quote everything I thought 0:22:10.960 --> 0:22:13.080 was wrong, Everything I had expected to see was wrong. 0:22:13.160 --> 0:22:15.240 I thought that going to space would be the ultimate 0:22:15.240 --> 0:22:17.920 Catharsis of that connection I've been looking for between all 0:22:18.040 --> 0:22:20.160 living things, that being up there would be the next 0:22:20.200 --> 0:22:23.399 beautiful step to understanding the harmony of the universe. I 0:22:23.480 --> 0:22:25.320 love the mystery of the universe. I love all the 0:22:25.400 --> 0:22:28.240 questions that have come to us over thousands of years 0:22:28.280 --> 0:22:32.159 of exploration and hypotheses. But when I looked in the 0:22:32.240 --> 0:22:36.080 opposite direction into space, there was no mystery, no majestic 0:22:36.160 --> 0:22:42.639 awe to behold. All I saw was death. Jesus but 0:22:43.080 --> 0:22:50.320 expects some low oxygen levels, and he was death, and 0:22:50.359 --> 0:22:54.240 my ears hurt. No. But the this emotional disruption is 0:22:54.280 --> 0:22:56.280