1 00:00:00,520 --> 00:00:03,800 Speaker 1: Ridiculous Crime is a production of My Heart Radio. Hey, 2 00:00:03,920 --> 00:00:08,879 Speaker 1: Elizabeth done Zarin Burnett, do you know what's ridiculous? I do? Oh? 3 00:00:09,320 --> 00:00:13,920 Speaker 1: I do you? Yes. Now this is a departure. I 4 00:00:13,920 --> 00:00:16,160 Speaker 1: don't normally do these sort of things, but I have. 5 00:00:16,640 --> 00:00:19,520 Speaker 1: I have a product mash up for you. What is 6 00:00:19,520 --> 00:00:23,800 Speaker 1: a product mash up? It's ridiculous. Like, here's the thing, 7 00:00:24,640 --> 00:00:29,480 Speaker 1: it's a These are gold mines of ridiculousness. They're always ridiculous. 8 00:00:29,640 --> 00:00:31,680 Speaker 1: Oh yes, and so much fun to picture. And all 9 00:00:31,720 --> 00:00:35,640 Speaker 1: of our rude dudes, our listeners out there constantly send 10 00:00:35,720 --> 00:00:38,160 Speaker 1: more and more in. You're telling me they're all working 11 00:00:38,200 --> 00:00:44,839 Speaker 1: against me, yes, and with you, but working through the 12 00:00:44,880 --> 00:00:48,040 Speaker 1: power of ridiculous. I also know I picture everything you say. 13 00:00:50,240 --> 00:00:53,440 Speaker 1: I mean seriously, like best listeners in the world. We 14 00:00:53,440 --> 00:00:58,320 Speaker 1: already know that, but they come through. So this one. Um. 15 00:00:58,440 --> 00:01:02,800 Speaker 1: You know how Core's light can we used to call 16 00:01:02,840 --> 00:01:07,160 Speaker 1: it Sewers lights light. You know how the cans change 17 00:01:07,200 --> 00:01:11,000 Speaker 1: color to you know, yeah, because it's the coldest tasting beer. 18 00:01:11,800 --> 00:01:14,800 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, but it's as cold as the rockies. Um. 19 00:01:14,880 --> 00:01:17,679 Speaker 1: So like that. In two thousand and seven they did 20 00:01:17,680 --> 00:01:21,039 Speaker 1: the color changing labels. Um. But now they're like, well, 21 00:01:21,080 --> 00:01:23,960 Speaker 1: what happens if I poured into a pint glass? How 22 00:01:24,040 --> 00:01:25,680 Speaker 1: is anyone going to know how cold their beer is 23 00:01:25,720 --> 00:01:27,880 Speaker 1: supposed to be? Oh, that is a problem because so 24 00:01:27,920 --> 00:01:29,959 Speaker 1: many people are drinking cors light out of my pint 25 00:01:30,000 --> 00:01:34,920 Speaker 1: glass or it just like the couzy covers it up 26 00:01:35,000 --> 00:01:40,840 Speaker 1: like a draft style. That's how I likes light? Can 27 00:01:40,880 --> 00:01:45,559 Speaker 1: I interest you? Um? So it's very hoppy. They they've 28 00:01:45,600 --> 00:01:48,960 Speaker 1: come up with a product. It also changes colors. It 29 00:01:49,000 --> 00:01:52,200 Speaker 1: goes from silver to mountain blue. Oh my god, I 30 00:01:52,240 --> 00:01:55,360 Speaker 1: can only imagine the chemical involved in this. It is 31 00:01:55,520 --> 00:02:03,880 Speaker 1: nail polish, and it's called chill polished. So it said 32 00:02:03,960 --> 00:02:07,640 Speaker 1: the brand says, you paint your nails, hold your pint glass, 33 00:02:07,720 --> 00:02:11,080 Speaker 1: and voila, see the blue or not so blue? If 34 00:02:11,080 --> 00:02:15,799 Speaker 1: your beer's too warm, results going through the whole thing 35 00:02:15,919 --> 00:02:20,000 Speaker 1: through your fingertips. And this does not sound like I 36 00:02:20,000 --> 00:02:22,359 Speaker 1: thought you'd have to like rest your fingernails against the 37 00:02:22,400 --> 00:02:25,280 Speaker 1: outside of the pint glass. So now my finger is 38 00:02:25,280 --> 00:02:27,919 Speaker 1: a mood ring for my beer. I guess. Well, here's 39 00:02:27,919 --> 00:02:29,919 Speaker 1: the thing is. It's like it's supposed to be what 40 00:02:30,000 --> 00:02:34,160 Speaker 1: forty three degrees or something? Is there whatever, So it's 41 00:02:34,200 --> 00:02:37,320 Speaker 1: it's pretty much. You can tell what the temperature is outside. 42 00:02:37,320 --> 00:02:40,800 Speaker 1: I guess if you do that, no, when you're walking 43 00:02:40,840 --> 00:02:42,959 Speaker 1: to the bus stop and you look like, oh dang, 44 00:02:43,000 --> 00:02:46,560 Speaker 1: it is cold down here. Um. So here's here's what 45 00:02:46,600 --> 00:02:49,360 Speaker 1: they said the holiday. This holiday season, Corse Light is 46 00:02:49,400 --> 00:02:53,160 Speaker 1: bringing chill right to your fingertips. Coors Light should always 47 00:02:53,200 --> 00:02:55,760 Speaker 1: be served as cold as the Rockies. But sometimes it's 48 00:02:55,760 --> 00:02:57,720 Speaker 1: hard to know when you're drinking from a pint glass. 49 00:02:58,120 --> 00:03:00,480 Speaker 1: Sometimes it's hard to know what is going on your life. 50 00:03:01,400 --> 00:03:04,840 Speaker 1: So we've brought our cold activated technology to nail polish 51 00:03:04,919 --> 00:03:06,880 Speaker 1: to ensure your pine of beer is just the right 52 00:03:06,919 --> 00:03:11,640 Speaker 1: temperature dip your finger into it. So we got nail 53 00:03:11,680 --> 00:03:15,720 Speaker 1: polished for all over Cores Light drinkers. As a former admin, 54 00:03:15,840 --> 00:03:21,360 Speaker 1: can I producer, Dave please tap the Rockies? Was right there, 55 00:03:23,000 --> 00:03:25,760 Speaker 1: Take your nail tap them against the glass because you're 56 00:03:25,800 --> 00:03:32,240 Speaker 1: tapping the Rockies that opportunity you know, well, you know 57 00:03:32,280 --> 00:03:35,080 Speaker 1: what for all of these products that I am pushing, 58 00:03:36,160 --> 00:03:38,440 Speaker 1: why aren't they sending me free samples? And that I 59 00:03:38,480 --> 00:03:42,360 Speaker 1: am You're welcome Cores at me. They also said that 60 00:03:42,400 --> 00:03:44,320 Speaker 1: it's not just for the ladies, that men can wear 61 00:03:44,320 --> 00:03:47,520 Speaker 1: it too. I know, a lot of guys who were 62 00:03:47,640 --> 00:03:55,400 Speaker 1: nail polished, and none of them are. I have a 63 00:03:55,400 --> 00:03:58,480 Speaker 1: lot of dead beat friends. No, I actually I don't 64 00:03:58,480 --> 00:04:04,560 Speaker 1: think you know what you want to drinks core. I'm sorry, No, 65 00:04:04,680 --> 00:04:06,080 Speaker 1: I don't dragon, but I have friends who do it. 66 00:04:06,120 --> 00:04:08,240 Speaker 1: I'm embarrassed for that. Let's get them some nail I'm 67 00:04:08,240 --> 00:04:10,760 Speaker 1: going to get them nail polishing right here, you go, Well, 68 00:04:10,880 --> 00:04:13,920 Speaker 1: ask santi clause for it. It's seven dollars a bottle 69 00:04:14,400 --> 00:04:17,120 Speaker 1: at the Cores Light shop on line and if you 70 00:04:17,160 --> 00:04:18,560 Speaker 1: wait a couple of months, we'll be at the dollar 71 00:04:18,680 --> 00:04:25,720 Speaker 1: store or yeah. Probably So that is ridiculous, certified, sealed 72 00:04:25,760 --> 00:04:30,440 Speaker 1: and delivered. Wow. Okay, Well, if you got a second 73 00:04:30,520 --> 00:04:33,200 Speaker 1: before you go, I have something ridiculous for you. Yes, 74 00:04:33,520 --> 00:04:36,200 Speaker 1: it doesn't evolve any cold changing technology. But it does 75 00:04:36,320 --> 00:04:40,480 Speaker 1: involve technology. I like technology and love. I like love. 76 00:04:40,560 --> 00:04:43,320 Speaker 1: Imagine a love story, Elizabeth. Okay, Now this love story 77 00:04:43,360 --> 00:04:49,040 Speaker 1: turns into a love triangle featuring not one, but two astronauts. Yes, 78 00:04:49,320 --> 00:04:51,839 Speaker 1: and one of the astronauts while wearing an adult diaper, 79 00:04:52,200 --> 00:04:54,320 Speaker 1: they never have to pull over for bathroom breaks. Drives 80 00:04:54,400 --> 00:04:57,920 Speaker 1: nine miles NonStop across five states so they can confront 81 00:04:57,920 --> 00:05:03,280 Speaker 1: their love rival and break up the triangle. Remember this, 82 00:05:03,400 --> 00:05:27,080 Speaker 1: we have a problem, a love problem. This is Ridiculous Crime, 83 00:05:27,240 --> 00:05:31,560 Speaker 1: a podcast about absurd and outrageous capers, heists, and cons. 84 00:05:32,040 --> 00:05:38,760 Speaker 1: It's always Night nine Present, murder Free and Ridiculous Elizabeth. 85 00:05:39,720 --> 00:05:43,240 Speaker 1: We don't cover enough love stories. We really don't. I mean, 86 00:05:43,279 --> 00:05:45,560 Speaker 1: like I feel kind of I've been loath about that. 87 00:05:45,600 --> 00:05:48,039 Speaker 1: I mean, I had Guy Fieri, but I really haven't 88 00:05:48,040 --> 00:05:50,800 Speaker 1: been looking to the love stories. Now, this week, I 89 00:05:50,839 --> 00:05:52,360 Speaker 1: want to tell you about a love story that may 90 00:05:52,400 --> 00:05:54,120 Speaker 1: live on the fringes of your memory. You said you 91 00:05:54,200 --> 00:05:56,560 Speaker 1: kind of remember that. Okay. It's the story of the 92 00:05:56,600 --> 00:05:59,600 Speaker 1: adult Diaper in the Astronaut Love Triangle, which, by the way, 93 00:05:59,680 --> 00:06:01,279 Speaker 1: that'd be a great name for, like a new wave 94 00:06:01,320 --> 00:06:05,599 Speaker 1: punk band, adult adult Diaper in the Astronaut Loves your Angle. 95 00:06:05,800 --> 00:06:11,480 Speaker 1: I like it. I'd want to be yeah. Okay. Now 96 00:06:11,480 --> 00:06:15,040 Speaker 1: our hero, our heroine today is Lisa no Wack. She 97 00:06:15,160 --> 00:06:18,640 Speaker 1: was a NaSTA astronaut and are ridiculous criminal now. Lisa 98 00:06:18,760 --> 00:06:22,080 Speaker 1: no Wack was being an astronaut a badass. Now she 99 00:06:22,200 --> 00:06:26,160 Speaker 1: was driven the very goals oriented. She's raised in Maryland. 100 00:06:26,160 --> 00:06:28,599 Speaker 1: She graduates from high school in nineteen one, and she 101 00:06:28,640 --> 00:06:32,080 Speaker 1: attends the U S Naval Academy. A good job for you, Lisa. 102 00:06:32,320 --> 00:06:35,200 Speaker 1: She leaves with a degree in aerospace engineering. She goes 103 00:06:35,240 --> 00:06:39,240 Speaker 1: to graduate program in aerospace engineering that follows. Then after 104 00:06:39,320 --> 00:06:43,240 Speaker 1: getting her graduate degree, she graduates from Naval Test Pilot School, 105 00:06:43,600 --> 00:06:47,400 Speaker 1: step after step after step. June seven, she earns her wings, 106 00:06:47,440 --> 00:06:50,479 Speaker 1: becomes a Naval flight officer. Now in the cockpit, she 107 00:06:50,520 --> 00:06:54,960 Speaker 1: flies over thirty different aircraft. She's amazing, fift undred flight hours. 108 00:06:55,200 --> 00:06:57,720 Speaker 1: Just like I said, total badass. Then she goes on 109 00:06:57,760 --> 00:07:06,440 Speaker 1: to become an aerospace engineer for ASSA. She's a badass. Okay, 110 00:07:06,520 --> 00:07:10,680 Speaker 1: I'll see myself up in six she gets selected to 111 00:07:10,760 --> 00:07:14,040 Speaker 1: join NASA Astronaut Core, which is the training program at 112 00:07:14,080 --> 00:07:17,880 Speaker 1: Johnson Space Center in Houston. As you well know, and 113 00:07:18,080 --> 00:07:21,520 Speaker 1: Houston is where Missing Control is located. Thus Houston, we 114 00:07:21,560 --> 00:07:24,040 Speaker 1: have a problem. Now, before we dive into her time 115 00:07:24,040 --> 00:07:25,600 Speaker 1: at NASA, Elizabeth, I would like to tell you a 116 00:07:25,640 --> 00:07:29,000 Speaker 1: little bit more about Lisa, No act to more about 117 00:07:29,000 --> 00:07:31,280 Speaker 1: this woman. Yeah, because they said total go get her, 118 00:07:31,640 --> 00:07:36,000 Speaker 1: straight shooter, total focused, badass, just real cowboy. I'm telling 119 00:07:36,000 --> 00:07:39,360 Speaker 1: you she is a heroic figure of the American dream. Right, 120 00:07:39,600 --> 00:07:43,520 Speaker 1: But Lisa also is complicated, contains multitudes. She likes to 121 00:07:43,640 --> 00:07:46,560 Speaker 1: currently her stamps. She likes to fill out crossword puzzles. 122 00:07:46,640 --> 00:07:49,080 Speaker 1: She loves gourmet cooking and going sailing. She's an avid 123 00:07:49,160 --> 00:07:52,200 Speaker 1: runner and cyclist. She's also a skeet shooter, and she 124 00:07:52,240 --> 00:07:55,200 Speaker 1: loves the soft look and feel of the African violet 125 00:07:55,240 --> 00:07:57,480 Speaker 1: her favorite flower. I read a lot about Lisa. It 126 00:07:57,520 --> 00:08:02,080 Speaker 1: sounds like like her personal total. Well, it's funny. NASA 127 00:08:02,120 --> 00:08:03,840 Speaker 1: has these files and all the astronauts, and it has 128 00:08:03,880 --> 00:08:06,840 Speaker 1: like their likes and dislikes, like long walks, moonlit nights. 129 00:08:06,840 --> 00:08:11,800 Speaker 1: You know. Anyway, so she's also a dedicated and loving mother. Now. 130 00:08:11,840 --> 00:08:14,000 Speaker 1: In an interview that she did with Ladies Home Journal, 131 00:08:14,480 --> 00:08:17,400 Speaker 1: Lisa talked about the difficulties of being an astronaut mom, 132 00:08:17,440 --> 00:08:19,520 Speaker 1: and she said, and I quote along the way, when 133 00:08:19,560 --> 00:08:21,800 Speaker 1: I was going through all the baby training and all that, 134 00:08:21,880 --> 00:08:23,640 Speaker 1: even my mother was questioning it, how are you going 135 00:08:23,680 --> 00:08:25,400 Speaker 1: to be able to do all these things? Well? I 136 00:08:25,480 --> 00:08:28,440 Speaker 1: don't know. I'll find out as I go, right. I 137 00:08:28,520 --> 00:08:30,880 Speaker 1: like her attitude. She got plucked, you know, that's what 138 00:08:30,920 --> 00:08:33,280 Speaker 1: you want from an astro not now. Her husband also 139 00:08:33,320 --> 00:08:37,240 Speaker 1: a NASA guy, so he worked at Mission Control in Houston, 140 00:08:38,120 --> 00:08:40,400 Speaker 1: which means to dude's super busy too. He's doing all 141 00:08:40,400 --> 00:08:42,800 Speaker 1: the same stuff, working seventy hour weeks. Now he may 142 00:08:42,800 --> 00:08:45,640 Speaker 1: be guessing, oh, what does this mean for parenting duties? 143 00:08:45,760 --> 00:08:48,280 Speaker 1: Is you know, Lisa the primary caregiver? It is the 144 00:08:48,360 --> 00:08:51,800 Speaker 1: late eighties early nineties were talking about the expectations for 145 00:08:51,880 --> 00:08:54,480 Speaker 1: men were a little different. What they could get away 146 00:08:54,520 --> 00:08:56,680 Speaker 1: with was a little different in terms of not doing. 147 00:08:57,360 --> 00:08:59,960 Speaker 1: By all accounts, though, he was a very involved father, 148 00:09:00,200 --> 00:09:03,679 Speaker 1: so he was a total partner with her. They were 149 00:09:03,679 --> 00:09:06,720 Speaker 1: also a very popular couple, you know, very astronauty, like, 150 00:09:06,760 --> 00:09:08,560 Speaker 1: you know, having parties and all that. But at the 151 00:09:08,600 --> 00:09:11,120 Speaker 1: same time, not only were they socially active, they didn't 152 00:09:11,160 --> 00:09:13,320 Speaker 1: wear their astronaut on their sleeves, like they didn't want 153 00:09:13,360 --> 00:09:15,439 Speaker 1: to be known as Like, they didn't wear like silky 154 00:09:15,600 --> 00:09:18,840 Speaker 1: jackets that said like Mr and Mrs astro Pop and 155 00:09:18,840 --> 00:09:21,960 Speaker 1: we're just saw, hey, everybody coming over making jokes about 156 00:09:21,960 --> 00:09:23,560 Speaker 1: their moon boots. We were not going to move. But 157 00:09:23,600 --> 00:09:27,360 Speaker 1: they're like, God, now they're like the people who go 158 00:09:27,400 --> 00:09:29,480 Speaker 1: away for semester and all they talk about is like 159 00:09:30,440 --> 00:09:33,360 Speaker 1: and then I don't know, like when you're in space, 160 00:09:33,600 --> 00:09:37,920 Speaker 1: it's a little bit different. You wouldn't understand now, Elizabeth, 161 00:09:37,920 --> 00:09:40,600 Speaker 1: When I say astronaut, what do you think of? Like? 162 00:09:40,640 --> 00:09:42,880 Speaker 1: Who do you think of? What does astronaut mean to you? 163 00:09:45,080 --> 00:09:46,959 Speaker 1: I feel like you're making me right, like a sixth 164 00:09:47,000 --> 00:09:53,160 Speaker 1: grade essay? What astronauts mean to me? I think of? I? Okay, 165 00:09:53,200 --> 00:09:56,760 Speaker 1: this is how small and and bizarrely taped together. My 166 00:09:56,840 --> 00:10:01,720 Speaker 1: brain is always think of like, you know, you have 167 00:10:01,800 --> 00:10:05,120 Speaker 1: like the person and like the moon suit, right, but 168 00:10:05,200 --> 00:10:08,040 Speaker 1: I have I have these ear rings that are a 169 00:10:08,160 --> 00:10:11,360 Speaker 1: little astronaut guys, and like ones like reaching out. The 170 00:10:11,400 --> 00:10:13,040 Speaker 1: other one is just kind of like, I don't know, 171 00:10:13,120 --> 00:10:17,199 Speaker 1: bending over something inappropriate. I just admit that's what I think. 172 00:10:17,400 --> 00:10:22,280 Speaker 1: What you think inappropriately sexually stage astronauts? Better ear rings? 173 00:10:22,640 --> 00:10:24,679 Speaker 1: You went? You went? I was just caring. I knew 174 00:10:24,679 --> 00:10:27,960 Speaker 1: it was going to be a good answer. And one 175 00:10:28,440 --> 00:10:30,520 Speaker 1: well for a lot of people. There's the moon man 176 00:10:30,600 --> 00:10:34,400 Speaker 1: the MTV with the big glass helmet. So I don't 177 00:10:34,400 --> 00:10:37,200 Speaker 1: see them like in a pod, like flying through the 178 00:10:37,240 --> 00:10:40,920 Speaker 1: air whatever. I'd see them floating and I like that 179 00:10:41,040 --> 00:10:45,600 Speaker 1: and like tethered to nothing, floating in space and having 180 00:10:45,640 --> 00:10:49,560 Speaker 1: like their tether unattached in their fine did you like that, 181 00:10:49,600 --> 00:10:55,160 Speaker 1: George cloy Yes, the space travel it used to be 182 00:10:55,240 --> 00:10:59,200 Speaker 1: one of the most exciting things human beings. Are you 183 00:10:59,360 --> 00:11:02,719 Speaker 1: still pretty exciting? Yeah, but that's I mean it. No, 184 00:11:02,800 --> 00:11:04,880 Speaker 1: I don't mean me. I think the general public is 185 00:11:04,920 --> 00:11:07,520 Speaker 1: over it in terms of it being so wow and amazing. 186 00:11:07,559 --> 00:11:09,080 Speaker 1: It used to be like our future. We were going 187 00:11:09,120 --> 00:11:11,960 Speaker 1: to be space traveling apes, right, and then now that 188 00:11:12,040 --> 00:11:14,400 Speaker 1: just boils down to Elon Musk is taking up tomorrow. 189 00:11:14,440 --> 00:11:17,439 Speaker 1: That's not well whatever, But like all the rich guys 190 00:11:17,480 --> 00:11:20,120 Speaker 1: going into quote unquote space, you're not going into like 191 00:11:20,240 --> 00:11:23,040 Speaker 1: space first. Yeah, you know, the low Earth orbit and 192 00:11:23,040 --> 00:11:27,240 Speaker 1: all that off it would be brought back to Earth. 193 00:11:27,280 --> 00:11:29,360 Speaker 1: They're not like all anti gravity and like do you 194 00:11:29,400 --> 00:11:32,240 Speaker 1: think that happened? They would come back? Yeah? Or you 195 00:11:32,240 --> 00:11:34,400 Speaker 1: know the other thing I think of with astronauts, astronaut 196 00:11:34,440 --> 00:11:37,160 Speaker 1: Mark Kelly. Yeah, right, well he will show up in 197 00:11:37,160 --> 00:11:39,840 Speaker 1: this story because I know how much you like him. No, wait, 198 00:11:39,960 --> 00:11:43,120 Speaker 1: he's okay. Now, it turns out if you think about it. 199 00:11:43,160 --> 00:11:45,000 Speaker 1: What I mean about this whole the space age and 200 00:11:45,000 --> 00:11:47,440 Speaker 1: all the stuff that was the cool like Kennedy era 201 00:11:47,520 --> 00:11:50,920 Speaker 1: start of the space program that lasted for decades, We'll 202 00:11:50,960 --> 00:11:53,000 Speaker 1: buy the nineties, don't really cared if there was a 203 00:11:53,000 --> 00:11:56,719 Speaker 1: new Shuttle launch. Yeah, no one was excited to see it. 204 00:11:56,800 --> 00:11:58,200 Speaker 1: They weren't like if you tell it like it's an 205 00:11:58,200 --> 00:12:00,840 Speaker 1: astronaut coming to your school. It wasn't the same as 206 00:12:00,880 --> 00:12:03,240 Speaker 1: in nineteen seventy two if an astronaut was coming, I 207 00:12:03,240 --> 00:12:05,360 Speaker 1: will I will give you that. You know who gets 208 00:12:05,440 --> 00:12:10,640 Speaker 1: fired up still, Neil de grasse Tyson, I guess, don't 209 00:12:10,640 --> 00:12:16,160 Speaker 1: you think I don't know who? I don't track. I'm 210 00:12:16,200 --> 00:12:18,640 Speaker 1: just vollowing here. I feel like he would. I bet 211 00:12:18,640 --> 00:12:21,680 Speaker 1: he does. As it turns out, the space race and 212 00:12:21,720 --> 00:12:24,520 Speaker 1: all that it was apparently mostly a response to the 213 00:12:24,600 --> 00:12:28,520 Speaker 1: Soviet dream of expansion into space and lunar conquest. In 214 00:12:28,559 --> 00:12:31,880 Speaker 1: the US, we spent billions to beat the Soviets to Moon. 215 00:12:32,280 --> 00:12:34,600 Speaker 1: We get there first, a lot of win the space race. 216 00:12:34,880 --> 00:12:38,199 Speaker 1: We keep doing programs, but once the Soviet Union collapses, 217 00:12:38,440 --> 00:12:40,880 Speaker 1: so does our desire to go to space. Yeah, we 218 00:12:40,960 --> 00:12:42,760 Speaker 1: really look at it and the numbers. It's not me. 219 00:12:42,920 --> 00:12:44,640 Speaker 1: This is like just like, oh so we really just 220 00:12:44,760 --> 00:12:47,760 Speaker 1: we're doing this because they were doing Okay, So now 221 00:12:47,880 --> 00:12:51,400 Speaker 1: the culture though, we we have embraced space as a people. 222 00:12:51,480 --> 00:12:53,120 Speaker 1: I mean it does not matter what we're talking about, 223 00:12:53,120 --> 00:12:57,120 Speaker 1: from Star Wars to Star Trek to whatever, the Avengers 224 00:12:57,160 --> 00:13:00,480 Speaker 1: of Endgame, everybody. Space is the place where you areagination 225 00:13:00,520 --> 00:13:06,520 Speaker 1: because for the helpful astronaut guy, exactly, sorry, it faces 226 00:13:06,600 --> 00:13:09,280 Speaker 1: the place, so you know, but it is right like 227 00:13:09,320 --> 00:13:11,840 Speaker 1: you think about it. For design, aesthetics and cars were 228 00:13:11,840 --> 00:13:15,080 Speaker 1: made to look like rockets and looks like rockets, and 229 00:13:15,160 --> 00:13:16,360 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, it's like it just took 230 00:13:16,400 --> 00:13:19,440 Speaker 1: over things you wouldn't anticipate, like your butter design may 231 00:13:19,480 --> 00:13:23,840 Speaker 1: be shaped by space. Well, the product like the outside 232 00:13:23,880 --> 00:13:28,199 Speaker 1: like I don't know, like but we started that like 233 00:13:28,880 --> 00:13:33,320 Speaker 1: everyday products saved an unexpected race by the was shaped 234 00:13:33,440 --> 00:13:37,840 Speaker 1: like a rocket. No, not that, like the container shaped 235 00:13:37,880 --> 00:13:41,640 Speaker 1: like a stick. I don't like it shaped like butter 236 00:13:42,520 --> 00:13:47,079 Speaker 1: to tell you you brought it up. What I mean 237 00:13:47,760 --> 00:13:53,240 Speaker 1: it was the butter is a It's a possible example 238 00:13:53,280 --> 00:13:57,000 Speaker 1: of what could have been shaped and inspired by the 239 00:13:57,080 --> 00:14:00,319 Speaker 1: space race. In this case a terrible example. If you 240 00:14:00,480 --> 00:14:02,679 Speaker 1: were having company over and you let the butter get 241 00:14:02,720 --> 00:14:05,320 Speaker 1: sopped and you rolled it into a rough ball in 242 00:14:05,360 --> 00:14:08,520 Speaker 1: your hand. It looks like a meteor, and then you 243 00:14:08,559 --> 00:14:12,360 Speaker 1: have people and you just hold your hand out. Can 244 00:14:12,400 --> 00:14:14,840 Speaker 1: you go space? This is space age and they go, 245 00:14:14,920 --> 00:14:19,360 Speaker 1: oh cool, put that on my bread. Would you like 246 00:14:19,480 --> 00:14:24,240 Speaker 1: some space butter? So my point being astronauts, Yes, the 247 00:14:24,280 --> 00:14:26,800 Speaker 1: brave ones who were willing to be shot off the 248 00:14:26,840 --> 00:14:29,560 Speaker 1: surface of the Earth used to be impressive. That used 249 00:14:29,560 --> 00:14:32,640 Speaker 1: to be cool. And these people they were doing this, 250 00:14:32,680 --> 00:14:34,560 Speaker 1: they're being shot off the surface of the Earth with 251 00:14:34,600 --> 00:14:37,320 Speaker 1: the full confidence that us we would get them back. 252 00:14:37,880 --> 00:14:40,160 Speaker 1: Like that's wild. You all look drifting off into space. 253 00:14:40,200 --> 00:14:45,880 Speaker 1: It was a real risk and totally or just as 254 00:14:46,240 --> 00:14:49,120 Speaker 1: as you now point out, which thank you, is very accurate, 255 00:14:49,520 --> 00:14:52,720 Speaker 1: a rocket is not a safe place to work. I 256 00:14:52,720 --> 00:14:56,160 Speaker 1: don't think I would approve that, like okay, well, there's 257 00:14:56,160 --> 00:14:59,400 Speaker 1: also like the re entry thing, like we're just gonna holp. 258 00:14:59,440 --> 00:15:03,680 Speaker 1: We got enough stuff around. Get this angle right, Tom. Yeah. 259 00:15:04,560 --> 00:15:08,280 Speaker 1: The commander of the Apolos sixteen lunar landing mission, Captain 260 00:15:08,360 --> 00:15:11,760 Speaker 1: John Young, who obviously knows this stuff very well, far 261 00:15:11,800 --> 00:15:15,360 Speaker 1: better than I, and I quote, said this of the 262 00:15:15,480 --> 00:15:18,440 Speaker 1: dangers of his job. You put some people on top 263 00:15:18,440 --> 00:15:21,520 Speaker 1: of four million pounds of high explosives, You light the fuse, 264 00:15:21,600 --> 00:15:23,640 Speaker 1: and an eight and a half minutes, they're going eight 265 00:15:23,680 --> 00:15:26,080 Speaker 1: times faster than a rifle bullet. What part of that 266 00:15:26,120 --> 00:15:30,360 Speaker 1: sounds safe to you? Zero part of it. No part 267 00:15:30,360 --> 00:15:36,160 Speaker 1: of it sounds safe to me, sir No, sir no, sir. Well, 268 00:15:36,600 --> 00:15:38,920 Speaker 1: that is, you know, for the public to understand in 269 00:15:39,320 --> 00:15:41,640 Speaker 1: grand terms what it is the dangers of their job. Now, 270 00:15:41,680 --> 00:15:44,560 Speaker 1: this would include the Space Shuttle, which people kind of forget. 271 00:15:44,600 --> 00:15:47,240 Speaker 1: It's like, oh, it became mundane, but it's still super 272 00:15:47,560 --> 00:15:49,800 Speaker 1: because it looks like a space school bus. But that 273 00:15:49,920 --> 00:15:55,480 Speaker 1: thing is like, that's hardcore, hardcore. You know, it does 274 00:15:55,520 --> 00:15:58,680 Speaker 1: not have a moment of silence and respect. Will you 275 00:15:58,760 --> 00:16:01,360 Speaker 1: be respectful for the first time in your life about this, saren? 276 00:16:01,520 --> 00:16:07,800 Speaker 1: Does that evolve standing up straight? That's hard? Good? Okay, 277 00:16:07,840 --> 00:16:09,640 Speaker 1: So Elizabeth, you had to guess how much you think 278 00:16:09,680 --> 00:16:14,720 Speaker 1: it costs to launch a space shuttle dollars you want 279 00:16:14,760 --> 00:16:19,880 Speaker 1: to know, I don't know. Five billion dollars space shuttle 280 00:16:20,160 --> 00:16:23,600 Speaker 1: is it's very expensive? That much? Is it one of 281 00:16:23,600 --> 00:16:26,120 Speaker 1: those if you have to ask it can't afford it. 282 00:16:27,280 --> 00:16:31,040 Speaker 1: In line with that, it costs one billion dollars every launch, 283 00:16:31,960 --> 00:16:34,080 Speaker 1: every single launched, one billion dollars. That's what we like 284 00:16:34,120 --> 00:16:36,840 Speaker 1: to check. We signed as taxpayers, like one billion dollars 285 00:16:37,440 --> 00:16:40,960 Speaker 1: tax payers. Now, the reason why is it takes three 286 00:16:41,160 --> 00:16:45,880 Speaker 1: million individual pieces to construct a space shuttle, and those 287 00:16:45,920 --> 00:16:49,400 Speaker 1: three million individual pieces are constructed by industries in all 288 00:16:49,520 --> 00:16:56,160 Speaker 1: fifty states Congress, right, and that's good, and twenty workers 289 00:16:56,160 --> 00:16:59,120 Speaker 1: to prepare this one shuttle. Their labor goes into it. 290 00:16:59,200 --> 00:17:02,240 Speaker 1: So it was a very costly, labor intensive practice. And 291 00:17:02,280 --> 00:17:04,080 Speaker 1: so that's why NASA was like, can we get someone 292 00:17:04,080 --> 00:17:07,359 Speaker 1: else to do this? I'm saying it because also what 293 00:17:07,480 --> 00:17:10,920 Speaker 1: this means is they have to constantly spend this charm camp, 294 00:17:11,000 --> 00:17:13,440 Speaker 1: spend money on a charm campaign making astronauts, and what 295 00:17:13,480 --> 00:17:16,280 Speaker 1: they're doing seem amazing. So we'll keep signing the checks 296 00:17:16,400 --> 00:17:20,280 Speaker 1: right now, as I want to get to the the 297 00:17:20,320 --> 00:17:23,520 Speaker 1: real heart of the DC astronauts what this does for them. 298 00:17:23,560 --> 00:17:25,320 Speaker 1: We're going to talk a little bit about space travel, 299 00:17:25,960 --> 00:17:28,480 Speaker 1: but first let's take a break. Let's talk about some 300 00:17:28,520 --> 00:17:34,920 Speaker 1: products by space travel. We'll after this little break, we'll 301 00:17:34,920 --> 00:17:38,119 Speaker 1: be back with more from Lisa Nowak and the adult typers. 302 00:17:58,320 --> 00:18:03,359 Speaker 1: Elizabeth A promised i'd take you to space bottom vote. 303 00:18:03,480 --> 00:18:08,280 Speaker 1: I mean that figuratively. Let's just go back and talk 304 00:18:08,320 --> 00:18:10,400 Speaker 1: to that. At the very beginning of the space program, briefly, 305 00:18:10,920 --> 00:18:13,760 Speaker 1: those first brave test pilots who become the astronauts, and 306 00:18:13,800 --> 00:18:16,080 Speaker 1: the Mercury program that they you know, they go up 307 00:18:16,160 --> 00:18:18,800 Speaker 1: strapped rockets literally. Then we had those are the guys, 308 00:18:18,800 --> 00:18:21,040 Speaker 1: the right stuff, guys Tom Wolfe talks about. Then we 309 00:18:21,080 --> 00:18:23,680 Speaker 1: get to the Apollo astronatzos are the ones who walk 310 00:18:23,760 --> 00:18:26,640 Speaker 1: on the Moon. And then they also had the probably 311 00:18:26,680 --> 00:18:29,320 Speaker 1: the bravest self rescue ever in about Paulo thirteen when 312 00:18:29,359 --> 00:18:32,920 Speaker 1: they had to, you know, with Tom Hanks manage their 313 00:18:32,960 --> 00:18:36,399 Speaker 1: re entry so they didn't burn up. Tom Hanks. Yeah, yeah, 314 00:18:36,520 --> 00:18:40,960 Speaker 1: Well he's a national treasure, he really really is. Then, obviously, 315 00:18:41,040 --> 00:18:42,919 Speaker 1: the space program goes through some hard times in the 316 00:18:43,000 --> 00:18:45,480 Speaker 1: nineteen eighties. There's a Challenger explosion, which was one of 317 00:18:45,520 --> 00:18:47,800 Speaker 1: the space shows after being excited by the Space Shuttle 318 00:18:47,840 --> 00:18:50,600 Speaker 1: program in nineteen eighty and by eight six you get 319 00:18:50,640 --> 00:18:54,720 Speaker 1: the Challenger. Then you have the nineties and the early 320 00:18:55,359 --> 00:18:57,920 Speaker 1: program continues, and then we have in two thousand three 321 00:18:57,920 --> 00:19:00,960 Speaker 1: the Columbia explosion. So the program went through a lot 322 00:19:01,040 --> 00:19:04,080 Speaker 1: of really difficult periods that we were aware of. But 323 00:19:04,160 --> 00:19:08,000 Speaker 1: prior to that, you know, it was amazing, amazing, amazing, right. Well, 324 00:19:08,000 --> 00:19:09,879 Speaker 1: and there's all sorts of stuff always going on at 325 00:19:09,920 --> 00:19:12,640 Speaker 1: like the International Space Station that we don't like keep 326 00:19:12,680 --> 00:19:15,439 Speaker 1: track of. There they're they're up there. Oh yeah, totally, 327 00:19:15,520 --> 00:19:19,960 Speaker 1: they're watching us, staying up there where we can't get 328 00:19:20,000 --> 00:19:22,320 Speaker 1: to them. I can't see them. Would you ever want 329 00:19:22,320 --> 00:19:23,280 Speaker 1: to go up there? Would you ever want to go 330 00:19:23,320 --> 00:19:30,040 Speaker 1: to space? Really? That was quick you thought about this, okay, 331 00:19:30,320 --> 00:19:31,960 Speaker 1: but I'm guessing you would be all over that. I 332 00:19:32,000 --> 00:19:34,720 Speaker 1: would go anywhere you putting on a rocket. We're gonna 333 00:19:34,720 --> 00:19:36,159 Speaker 1: shoot you to Mongolia. I'm like, as long as I 334 00:19:36,160 --> 00:19:40,080 Speaker 1: got to ride a rocket, I don't care anyway. But 335 00:19:40,680 --> 00:19:42,840 Speaker 1: the astronauts, as I tell you before, NASA used to 336 00:19:42,840 --> 00:19:46,280 Speaker 1: always like kind of position them, He's like super cool, 337 00:19:46,720 --> 00:19:49,600 Speaker 1: like bigger than life characters, right, And they did that 338 00:19:49,640 --> 00:19:52,160 Speaker 1: because they had to justify the budgets and so forth, 339 00:19:52,240 --> 00:19:54,639 Speaker 1: but also it was good for the American spirit at 340 00:19:54,640 --> 00:19:57,280 Speaker 1: the time and so forth. But the one thing that 341 00:19:57,320 --> 00:19:59,760 Speaker 1: we never really talked about is the reality of being 342 00:19:59,800 --> 00:20:02,520 Speaker 1: an astronaut, which is that for often for astronauts, their 343 00:20:02,520 --> 00:20:06,359 Speaker 1: time and space was something that left them emotionally disconnected, depressed, 344 00:20:07,280 --> 00:20:09,679 Speaker 1: and blew. And we don't hear about that because they 345 00:20:09,680 --> 00:20:13,200 Speaker 1: didn't want to risk the program. Yeah, I had no idea. 346 00:20:13,359 --> 00:20:15,320 Speaker 1: I didn't either. I at least it's not something that 347 00:20:15,400 --> 00:20:18,240 Speaker 1: was I didn't know how common it was. Basically, there 348 00:20:18,320 --> 00:20:21,040 Speaker 1: is apparently a profound perspective shift that comes when you 349 00:20:21,080 --> 00:20:23,440 Speaker 1: go and do space travel, Like if you can see 350 00:20:23,480 --> 00:20:25,840 Speaker 1: the whole Earth at once, that tends to unsettle you 351 00:20:25,880 --> 00:20:28,600 Speaker 1: a little essentially, and or to put it another way, 352 00:20:28,600 --> 00:20:30,520 Speaker 1: if you can leave the planet and come back, it's 353 00:20:30,560 --> 00:20:33,080 Speaker 1: kind of like a near death experience. For some people, 354 00:20:33,080 --> 00:20:35,880 Speaker 1: it did really jars them. And you know, it's also 355 00:20:35,920 --> 00:20:37,800 Speaker 1: if you want to be more grand, it's more like reincarnation. 356 00:20:37,840 --> 00:20:39,399 Speaker 1: You went to the heavens and came back to right. 357 00:20:39,560 --> 00:20:41,080 Speaker 1: You know, however you want to look at it, it's 358 00:20:41,080 --> 00:20:43,080 Speaker 1: wild for the person who goes through it. I can 359 00:20:43,240 --> 00:20:45,640 Speaker 1: I can imagine that. I never thought of it that way. Right, 360 00:20:45,680 --> 00:20:48,080 Speaker 1: and the buzz Aldrind he was the second man to 361 00:20:48,119 --> 00:20:50,359 Speaker 1: walk on the Moon. He was an astronaut, doubled up, 362 00:20:50,359 --> 00:20:52,239 Speaker 1: did a lot of stuff in space, and he's an 363 00:20:52,280 --> 00:20:57,360 Speaker 1: undeniable badass total like, you know, amazing brain, amazing willpower. 364 00:20:57,560 --> 00:20:59,479 Speaker 1: It's hard to question the guy. You're not gonna be like, oh, 365 00:20:59,520 --> 00:21:01,960 Speaker 1: he's not off, but he would often talk about how 366 00:21:02,119 --> 00:21:05,040 Speaker 1: going to UH, taking his trips to space changed him. 367 00:21:05,040 --> 00:21:06,680 Speaker 1: He would essentially say that he fell into a deep 368 00:21:06,760 --> 00:21:10,640 Speaker 1: darkness after returning to Earth. It was a morass of despair, 369 00:21:10,720 --> 00:21:13,600 Speaker 1: he said, not unlike say the inky abyss of space. 370 00:21:13,680 --> 00:21:17,399 Speaker 1: But in buzz Aldred's book Returned to Earth, he talks 371 00:21:17,440 --> 00:21:19,720 Speaker 1: about how this darkness impinged on his life. He talked 372 00:21:19,720 --> 00:21:22,600 Speaker 1: about how the times he'd be crying alone. He talked 373 00:21:22,640 --> 00:21:25,320 Speaker 1: about how much he drank the blues he felt all 374 00:21:25,400 --> 00:21:28,560 Speaker 1: his many affairs. He basically discovered there was a huge 375 00:21:28,680 --> 00:21:32,359 Speaker 1: country mile wide self destructive streak that ran down the 376 00:21:32,359 --> 00:21:35,240 Speaker 1: center of his soul. That's really brave to talk about too, 377 00:21:35,440 --> 00:21:37,840 Speaker 1: you know, like to admit it and confront it. He 378 00:21:37,920 --> 00:21:40,120 Speaker 1: hit it for a very very long time, and then 379 00:21:40,119 --> 00:21:42,600 Speaker 1: it eventually came out, and so he started trying to 380 00:21:42,640 --> 00:21:45,400 Speaker 1: like shepherd some of the younger astronauts. And I will 381 00:21:45,400 --> 00:21:47,399 Speaker 1: get back to him in a second, but the actor 382 00:21:47,400 --> 00:21:50,400 Speaker 1: William Shatner recently went to space in one of your 383 00:21:50,440 --> 00:21:56,800 Speaker 1: Low Earth or like went to space fingers now, Jeff Bezos, 384 00:21:56,840 --> 00:21:59,320 Speaker 1: he said, hey, I'll take you to Elizabeth Space, and 385 00:21:59,359 --> 00:22:02,200 Speaker 1: he'd takes the trip right, but it blew Captain kirk 386 00:22:02,200 --> 00:22:04,479 Speaker 1: while the actor who played Captain kirk Away and and 387 00:22:04,600 --> 00:22:08,320 Speaker 1: I will quote briefly from Shad, he was kind of 388 00:22:08,320 --> 00:22:10,920 Speaker 1: surprisingly bleak about this. He said, quote everything I thought 389 00:22:10,960 --> 00:22:13,080 Speaker 1: was wrong, Everything I had expected to see was wrong. 390 00:22:13,160 --> 00:22:15,240 Speaker 1: I thought that going to space would be the ultimate 391 00:22:15,240 --> 00:22:17,920 Speaker 1: Catharsis of that connection I've been looking for between all 392 00:22:18,040 --> 00:22:20,160 Speaker 1: living things, that being up there would be the next 393 00:22:20,200 --> 00:22:23,399 Speaker 1: beautiful step to understanding the harmony of the universe. I 394 00:22:23,480 --> 00:22:25,320 Speaker 1: love the mystery of the universe. I love all the 395 00:22:25,400 --> 00:22:28,240 Speaker 1: questions that have come to us over thousands of years 396 00:22:28,280 --> 00:22:32,159 Speaker 1: of exploration and hypotheses. But when I looked in the 397 00:22:32,240 --> 00:22:36,080 Speaker 1: opposite direction into space, there was no mystery, no majestic 398 00:22:36,160 --> 00:22:42,639 Speaker 1: awe to behold. All I saw was death. Jesus but 399 00:22:43,080 --> 00:22:50,320 Speaker 1: expects some low oxygen levels, and he was death, and 400 00:22:50,359 --> 00:22:54,240 Speaker 1: my ears hurt. No. But the this emotional disruption is 401 00:22:54,280 --> 00:22:56,280 Speaker 1: bleak feeling that seemed to be very common for people 402 00:22:56,320 --> 00:22:59,000 Speaker 1: who leave the Earth. You know, it is something that 403 00:22:59,000 --> 00:23:01,359 Speaker 1: we don't talk about with as or not. And Lisa, no, 404 00:23:01,440 --> 00:23:04,479 Speaker 1: Walk's story is very much something that you have. Why 405 00:23:04,520 --> 00:23:06,000 Speaker 1: do you have that in the back of your mind? 406 00:23:06,160 --> 00:23:07,679 Speaker 1: I tell you the rest of that. I would imagine 407 00:23:07,680 --> 00:23:10,320 Speaker 1: that when you said, anytime you separate yourself out from something, 408 00:23:10,359 --> 00:23:12,560 Speaker 1: it allows you to see it in a clearer way. 409 00:23:13,240 --> 00:23:15,960 Speaker 1: And so like when we're here living on the Earth 410 00:23:16,040 --> 00:23:18,840 Speaker 1: and living our tiny little lives, you know, we're so 411 00:23:18,920 --> 00:23:21,240 Speaker 1: deep in it. We don't we don't pay attention to it, 412 00:23:21,359 --> 00:23:24,280 Speaker 1: or we we Everything is like a theoretical right. And 413 00:23:24,280 --> 00:23:26,280 Speaker 1: I would imagine that if you're separated from that and 414 00:23:26,320 --> 00:23:28,000 Speaker 1: you look down, like it feels like it would be 415 00:23:28,000 --> 00:23:30,560 Speaker 1: really tragic to be able to see the whole earth 416 00:23:30,600 --> 00:23:33,399 Speaker 1: and think about, like, here's this beautiful thing, and we 417 00:23:33,480 --> 00:23:36,400 Speaker 1: do terrible things to it and to each other, and like, 418 00:23:36,720 --> 00:23:41,200 Speaker 1: I wouldn't want to go back. We're messing this whole 419 00:23:41,200 --> 00:23:43,879 Speaker 1: thing up. We're so bad to each other, We're so 420 00:23:43,960 --> 00:23:48,040 Speaker 1: bad to this planet. I'm sorry, I'm I'm you know whatever. 421 00:23:48,119 --> 00:23:51,240 Speaker 1: So that's why I probably shouldn't go space. That makes 422 00:23:51,320 --> 00:23:53,280 Speaker 1: perfect sense. I can see you, I can make it 423 00:23:53,280 --> 00:23:57,399 Speaker 1: would leave you completely desolated. In two thous before Lisa 424 00:23:57,440 --> 00:24:02,159 Speaker 1: no Wa gets her lucky chance, it's like the worst 425 00:24:02,200 --> 00:24:05,080 Speaker 1: golden tickets. Oh dude. Not only that, but a year prior, 426 00:24:05,280 --> 00:24:07,480 Speaker 1: three of her friends from when she was an Astronaut 427 00:24:07,480 --> 00:24:11,919 Speaker 1: Training Corps. They died in the Columbia explosion, including one 428 00:24:11,960 --> 00:24:15,679 Speaker 1: of her best friends, and so she was really struck 429 00:24:15,720 --> 00:24:17,639 Speaker 1: by this. And the very next year she gets, you know, 430 00:24:17,680 --> 00:24:20,199 Speaker 1: her chance. And so also I told you she's a 431 00:24:20,280 --> 00:24:24,080 Speaker 1: mother of young school age children. So we're going to 432 00:24:24,160 --> 00:24:26,560 Speaker 1: take a short trip to space with Lisa Nowak and 433 00:24:26,640 --> 00:24:30,359 Speaker 1: the Space Shuttle Discovery. Already, Elizabeth, let's pretend it's happiness. 434 00:24:31,280 --> 00:24:34,760 Speaker 1: Space is depressing as hell now and we're gonna go there, 435 00:24:35,440 --> 00:24:36,920 Speaker 1: So do that before I told you. She gets a 436 00:24:36,960 --> 00:24:39,800 Speaker 1: sign to be a mission specialist for the crew of 437 00:24:39,880 --> 00:24:42,280 Speaker 1: the STS one to one, which is going to be 438 00:24:42,680 --> 00:24:45,480 Speaker 1: Spaceholder Discoveries, which is the second trip back to space 439 00:24:45,560 --> 00:24:49,080 Speaker 1: since the Columbia explosion. Now, Lisa, as I told you, 440 00:24:49,160 --> 00:24:52,280 Speaker 1: was friends with one of the Columbia astronauts, and NASA 441 00:24:52,320 --> 00:24:54,240 Speaker 1: wanted to know, how is this going to affect you? 442 00:24:54,320 --> 00:24:56,240 Speaker 1: Should we like, you know, bump this back. And she 443 00:24:56,600 --> 00:24:58,879 Speaker 1: worked really hard to get her chance to be an astronaut. 444 00:24:58,960 --> 00:25:02,560 Speaker 1: So she was like explaining to NASA, and she used 445 00:25:02,560 --> 00:25:04,840 Speaker 1: her children to make her point. And I quote, I 446 00:25:04,880 --> 00:25:06,919 Speaker 1: remember on that day sitting there with my son and 447 00:25:06,960 --> 00:25:09,280 Speaker 1: we were both watching together everything that's happening. And he 448 00:25:09,359 --> 00:25:11,639 Speaker 1: reached over and he took my hand and said, Mom, 449 00:25:11,880 --> 00:25:14,240 Speaker 1: I still want you to go. So what's a terrible 450 00:25:14,240 --> 00:25:16,240 Speaker 1: tragedy to happen, But we know that there is a 451 00:25:16,280 --> 00:25:18,439 Speaker 1: cause behind it, and then we're going to continue to 452 00:25:18,520 --> 00:25:21,280 Speaker 1: follow that. So she wanted to let them know, like, 453 00:25:21,560 --> 00:25:24,000 Speaker 1: it's a family dream, it's my dream. We're doing this. 454 00:25:24,520 --> 00:25:29,760 Speaker 1: Didn't say that. July four, two thousand six, she blasts off. 455 00:25:29,800 --> 00:25:32,200 Speaker 1: She leaves the Earth strapped to the top of a rocket, 456 00:25:32,720 --> 00:25:35,760 Speaker 1: heads up to the International Space Station, your third favorite 457 00:25:35,760 --> 00:25:39,040 Speaker 1: place to be. And once they're Lisa operates the remote 458 00:25:39,119 --> 00:25:41,760 Speaker 1: robot arm. They do the maintenance and they're fixing stuff 459 00:25:41,800 --> 00:25:43,960 Speaker 1: and you know, building things and adding things. Are up 460 00:25:43,960 --> 00:25:46,560 Speaker 1: there for two weeks and then Lisa returns to Earth 461 00:25:46,640 --> 00:25:51,199 Speaker 1: and successfully, no no problems now at the time, what 462 00:25:51,320 --> 00:25:54,360 Speaker 1: I haven't yet gotten to but now is the best time, 463 00:25:54,400 --> 00:25:56,720 Speaker 1: I imagine breaking out. She was also deeply in love 464 00:25:56,760 --> 00:25:58,879 Speaker 1: with a fellow aster not so she's very excited to 465 00:25:58,880 --> 00:26:01,760 Speaker 1: get back to Earth Astro and not her husband. She's 466 00:26:01,800 --> 00:26:03,840 Speaker 1: very excited to get back to the Earth, to get 467 00:26:03,880 --> 00:26:06,080 Speaker 1: back to his arms. That's what getting back to the Earth. 468 00:26:06,640 --> 00:26:09,320 Speaker 1: He was not on the mission with her, but he 469 00:26:09,400 --> 00:26:12,399 Speaker 1: was consuming her thoughts. And his name is Bill offer Line, 470 00:26:12,840 --> 00:26:14,920 Speaker 1: all right, Bill offer Line. He was a former Navy 471 00:26:14,920 --> 00:26:18,600 Speaker 1: flyboy pilot turned astronaut. They've been having their affairs since 472 00:26:18,600 --> 00:26:25,439 Speaker 1: two thousand four and two. Basically we're in two thousand 473 00:26:25,600 --> 00:26:32,400 Speaker 1: five two point they she's a freshly minted affair. Yes, yes, exactly. 474 00:26:32,400 --> 00:26:33,960 Speaker 1: She goes up into that I think two thousand five, 475 00:26:34,080 --> 00:26:37,120 Speaker 1: goes up, and then he goes up in December. That's 476 00:26:37,200 --> 00:26:39,800 Speaker 1: into two thousand five as well, because he's a pilot 477 00:26:39,880 --> 00:26:42,840 Speaker 1: for the Space Shuttle. So no, Lisa, as I told you, 478 00:26:42,880 --> 00:26:45,200 Speaker 1: deeply loved the Bill. In two thousand seven, she wrote 479 00:26:45,200 --> 00:26:48,280 Speaker 1: a letter to her his mother, right, and I quote, 480 00:26:48,960 --> 00:26:51,199 Speaker 1: Bhil is absolutely the best person I've ever known, and 481 00:26:51,240 --> 00:26:53,760 Speaker 1: I love him more than I knew possible. Your kindness 482 00:26:53,760 --> 00:26:56,840 Speaker 1: in supporting us, even under such circumstances as have existed 483 00:26:56,840 --> 00:27:00,320 Speaker 1: in the past, is nothing short of extraordinary. Fortunate that 484 00:27:00,400 --> 00:27:03,119 Speaker 1: past situation is finally coming to a close, with formal 485 00:27:03,160 --> 00:27:06,679 Speaker 1: separation and separate living arrangements accomplished, and I am in 486 00:27:06,720 --> 00:27:09,840 Speaker 1: the process of completing all the official divorce paperwork. It 487 00:27:09,960 --> 00:27:12,680 Speaker 1: is long overdue, but it is finally here, and I'm 488 00:27:12,800 --> 00:27:16,719 Speaker 1: very much looking forward to getting to know you even better, Elizabeth. 489 00:27:16,800 --> 00:27:19,520 Speaker 1: She wrote that after she attempted to kidnap her love 490 00:27:19,640 --> 00:27:25,640 Speaker 1: arrival for Bill's affections, she can't blame space on this 491 00:27:25,680 --> 00:27:29,840 Speaker 1: is just their love affair. If you can say this 492 00:27:29,920 --> 00:27:33,879 Speaker 1: began innocently enough, No, no, we can't say. You know, 493 00:27:34,040 --> 00:27:39,520 Speaker 1: I have a zero tolerance. And the settle your own home. 494 00:27:39,720 --> 00:27:44,200 Speaker 1: You are unhappy in your marriage, settle your own before you, 495 00:27:44,800 --> 00:27:46,760 Speaker 1: before you go having before you zip and stuff out, 496 00:27:46,800 --> 00:27:48,840 Speaker 1: get your house in order, and then do whatever you 497 00:27:48,920 --> 00:27:51,720 Speaker 1: But that is just They were both married at the time. 498 00:27:51,800 --> 00:27:54,040 Speaker 1: They were both parents of young children. Both were Navy 499 00:27:54,040 --> 00:27:57,200 Speaker 1: commanders working at Johnson Space Center in Houston. They shared 500 00:27:57,240 --> 00:27:59,960 Speaker 1: a desk space at work. They also trained together. They 501 00:28:00,080 --> 00:28:04,680 Speaker 1: travel to Canada and they did astronaut cold weather training together. Yeah, 502 00:28:04,680 --> 00:28:07,680 Speaker 1: so they had to get warm afterwards. Now Bill gets 503 00:28:07,720 --> 00:28:10,399 Speaker 1: divorced in two thousand and five. His wife serves in 504 00:28:10,440 --> 00:28:13,679 Speaker 1: papers not his idea, but he gets divorceds Lisa and 505 00:28:13,680 --> 00:28:16,040 Speaker 1: her husband separated, but they don't file the paperwork because 506 00:28:16,080 --> 00:28:18,399 Speaker 1: she still wants to go to space. So she's like 507 00:28:18,440 --> 00:28:21,399 Speaker 1: to divorce. Ladies into space. No, She just doesn't want 508 00:28:21,440 --> 00:28:23,199 Speaker 1: any any questions about her character, like do you need 509 00:28:23,280 --> 00:28:27,840 Speaker 1: to take a moment? Schedule? Can't? She doesn't want anything 510 00:28:27,840 --> 00:28:30,399 Speaker 1: there to basically signals weakness or for some reason that 511 00:28:30,480 --> 00:28:32,560 Speaker 1: she may need to take a moment. He doesn't want. 512 00:28:32,920 --> 00:28:35,720 Speaker 1: So now Bill, he gets divorced, gets his own place. 513 00:28:35,920 --> 00:28:38,080 Speaker 1: Lisa stays there often, so he gives her a key 514 00:28:38,160 --> 00:28:40,800 Speaker 1: and they start, you know, their new life together, trying 515 00:28:40,840 --> 00:28:44,120 Speaker 1: to do what you would suggest, although not entirely now 516 00:28:44,160 --> 00:28:47,880 Speaker 1: they were ironically a very earthy couple, very passionate, right, 517 00:28:47,920 --> 00:28:49,960 Speaker 1: so they're now they're all these jokes about astronauts having 518 00:28:50,000 --> 00:28:52,880 Speaker 1: sex in space, right, But as I learned from reading 519 00:28:52,920 --> 00:28:57,160 Speaker 1: about them, they really like having sex on Earth because 520 00:28:57,600 --> 00:29:00,000 Speaker 1: the sex in space is practically impossible because the weightless 521 00:29:00,080 --> 00:29:02,120 Speaker 1: this like it's all like, hold onto this, how are 522 00:29:02,120 --> 00:29:05,200 Speaker 1: you going to do it? Nothing to push off? There 523 00:29:05,200 --> 00:29:07,719 Speaker 1: are people up there too, don't need to know what 524 00:29:07,760 --> 00:29:11,680 Speaker 1: you're up to. But I mean, think about you talked 525 00:29:11,680 --> 00:29:13,200 Speaker 1: to about the guy who wanted to have sex on 526 00:29:13,280 --> 00:29:15,920 Speaker 1: moon rocks. I think I was crazy to actually have 527 00:29:15,960 --> 00:29:18,440 Speaker 1: sex in space, like you know, as you're actually going 528 00:29:18,520 --> 00:29:21,200 Speaker 1: to hit it. Oh yeah, but it's not the best 529 00:29:21,200 --> 00:29:23,200 Speaker 1: place to do that because you're like pushing, and then 530 00:29:23,240 --> 00:29:26,720 Speaker 1: you both go that direction and and then then you're 531 00:29:26,760 --> 00:29:31,160 Speaker 1: both drifting off in what happens now. Things at this 532 00:29:31,200 --> 00:29:33,880 Speaker 1: point they were going well for Lisa and Bill, right 533 00:29:34,360 --> 00:29:38,200 Speaker 1: right up until Bill met Colleen Shipman. Oh now she's 534 00:29:38,240 --> 00:29:40,400 Speaker 1: the third angle and I love drying. Okay, So then 535 00:29:40,440 --> 00:29:42,400 Speaker 1: this is another one of my things. If he cheats 536 00:29:42,440 --> 00:29:45,480 Speaker 1: on you, he cheeses to be with you, he will 537 00:29:45,520 --> 00:29:51,320 Speaker 1: cheat on and vice for if she will cheat. Bill 538 00:29:51,400 --> 00:29:54,040 Speaker 1: was away from Houston. He was in Florida at the 539 00:29:54,120 --> 00:29:57,240 Speaker 1: Kennedy Space Center in Cape Canaveral. And Colleen Shipman she 540 00:29:57,320 --> 00:29:59,320 Speaker 1: wasn't a Navy pilot like the two of them, but 541 00:29:59,520 --> 00:30:01,880 Speaker 1: you know, she wasn't the Air Force. She was military, 542 00:30:02,040 --> 00:30:05,720 Speaker 1: very serious and stringent, and she tested hardware for space 543 00:30:05,760 --> 00:30:08,880 Speaker 1: flights and by most accounts, strikingly attractive. And she was 544 00:30:08,920 --> 00:30:11,160 Speaker 1: also a little bossy known as the little General to 545 00:30:11,240 --> 00:30:14,400 Speaker 1: her neighbors. Now, Colleen attended Penn State, one of your 546 00:30:14,400 --> 00:30:17,120 Speaker 1: favorite schools, graduated in two thousand two with a double 547 00:30:17,200 --> 00:30:23,479 Speaker 1: major degree in chemical engineering and German keeping. Lisa gradudated 548 00:30:23,560 --> 00:30:27,600 Speaker 1: high school. And so you hear there's an obvious age 549 00:30:27,600 --> 00:30:30,240 Speaker 1: difference between these two women. Now Colleen is thirty, Lisa 550 00:30:30,280 --> 00:30:32,480 Speaker 1: as a generation older and the married mother of school 551 00:30:32,480 --> 00:30:36,200 Speaker 1: age kids. So Bill went for the younger woman. He 552 00:30:36,360 --> 00:30:39,280 Speaker 1: traveled often from Houston to secretly spend time with Colleen. 553 00:30:39,360 --> 00:30:42,200 Speaker 1: The to grow close and very quickly, and the only 554 00:30:42,240 --> 00:30:45,120 Speaker 1: space will separate them literally because in December two thou 555 00:30:45,360 --> 00:30:47,840 Speaker 1: five he goes and he pilots his Shuttle mission to space, 556 00:30:48,200 --> 00:30:51,080 Speaker 1: and while he's at the International Space Station, she sends 557 00:30:51,120 --> 00:30:56,000 Speaker 1: him dirty emails like there's I found a couple, just 558 00:30:56,080 --> 00:30:58,720 Speaker 1: because I know how much you love dirty emails. The 559 00:30:58,760 --> 00:31:01,200 Speaker 1: subject line for one was I need to rub down 560 00:31:02,920 --> 00:31:05,440 Speaker 1: and in the body of the email and I quote, 561 00:31:06,080 --> 00:31:08,320 Speaker 1: We'll have to control myself. When I see you, first 562 00:31:08,400 --> 00:31:11,080 Speaker 1: urge will be to rip your clothes off, throw you 563 00:31:11,120 --> 00:31:13,400 Speaker 1: on the ground, and love the hell out of you, 564 00:31:13,640 --> 00:31:16,720 Speaker 1: love the hell out of really, just gonna love you up. 565 00:31:17,240 --> 00:31:18,920 Speaker 1: And then like the next email from her is like 566 00:31:18,960 --> 00:31:22,120 Speaker 1: a forwarded joke chain, I'm gonna have love being extruded 567 00:31:22,200 --> 00:31:25,800 Speaker 1: from your pores just I love me. The astronuts want 568 00:31:25,840 --> 00:31:28,160 Speaker 1: to throw each other on the ground, like the very 569 00:31:28,280 --> 00:31:29,800 Speaker 1: thing I can do is to throw you on our 570 00:31:29,840 --> 00:31:32,320 Speaker 1: home planet and love. I'm just gonna push you head 571 00:31:32,360 --> 00:31:36,880 Speaker 1: first into the side panel of a chevyst love you up. 572 00:31:38,440 --> 00:31:40,840 Speaker 1: Get some of that tear off firm A baby now 573 00:31:40,880 --> 00:31:46,680 Speaker 1: bills emails unsurprisingly lacked the same passion and fluency. Let 574 00:31:46,720 --> 00:31:48,360 Speaker 1: me care remember who he's sending him to. He's like, 575 00:31:48,400 --> 00:31:51,680 Speaker 1: hey baby, he doesn't say a name to keep something. 576 00:31:52,800 --> 00:31:56,000 Speaker 1: Hey space baby, He's like, oh, that's what always calls me. 577 00:31:56,120 --> 00:31:58,480 Speaker 1: He wrote his email to her, I need to see you. 578 00:31:58,560 --> 00:32:03,479 Speaker 1: I'm having colleen withdrawals. Must see Colleen. That's it right. Meanwhile, 579 00:32:03,520 --> 00:32:06,560 Speaker 1: there's Lisa no wak totally in the dark bottle. Well no, 580 00:32:06,640 --> 00:32:09,120 Speaker 1: not poor Lisa. A good bill had lied to Colleen 581 00:32:09,200 --> 00:32:12,000 Speaker 1: about Lisa and lied to Lisa about Colleen. So, according 582 00:32:12,040 --> 00:32:15,200 Speaker 1: to Colleen, when he told me he had this relationship 583 00:32:15,240 --> 00:32:16,920 Speaker 1: and then he broke it off with her now, as 584 00:32:16,960 --> 00:32:19,640 Speaker 1: Colleen would later tell the Orlando Police, I asked him, 585 00:32:19,760 --> 00:32:21,800 Speaker 1: are you sure that she's okay with this? Because you 586 00:32:21,840 --> 00:32:23,440 Speaker 1: know how these things go. And I said, is there 587 00:32:23,440 --> 00:32:25,160 Speaker 1: going to be some crazy ladies showing up at my 588 00:32:25,200 --> 00:32:27,040 Speaker 1: door trying to kill me? And he said no, no, no, no, 589 00:32:27,120 --> 00:32:29,280 Speaker 1: she's not like that. She's fine with it. She's happy 590 00:32:29,320 --> 00:32:32,080 Speaker 1: for me. She's happy for me. Yes, now that was 591 00:32:32,120 --> 00:32:36,120 Speaker 1: what we and the storytelling it. Did you call a lie? 592 00:32:36,280 --> 00:32:38,600 Speaker 1: Can I also just say that if anyone uses your 593 00:32:38,720 --> 00:32:42,200 Speaker 1: name in like your name as so and so told 594 00:32:42,240 --> 00:32:46,560 Speaker 1: the Orlando police like low point, plant the flag, low 595 00:32:46,560 --> 00:32:49,160 Speaker 1: point in your life, you've reached the Nader everything up 596 00:32:49,200 --> 00:32:54,280 Speaker 1: from here. In January two thousand and six, Lisa, who 597 00:32:54,400 --> 00:32:57,160 Speaker 1: had been oblivious to all this, uh, she starts to 598 00:32:57,200 --> 00:32:59,720 Speaker 1: get the truth because Bill returns from space. He's had 599 00:32:59,720 --> 00:33:01,320 Speaker 1: them moment where he's like, oh, I need to get 600 00:33:01,400 --> 00:33:04,920 Speaker 1: right with So he tells the Lisa the truth and 601 00:33:04,960 --> 00:33:07,880 Speaker 1: he says, I told her that I had met Colleen 602 00:33:07,960 --> 00:33:10,080 Speaker 1: and I had fallen in love and I was wanting 603 00:33:10,120 --> 00:33:14,320 Speaker 1: to pursue in an exclusive relationship with Colleen. Is he okay, 604 00:33:14,800 --> 00:33:17,000 Speaker 1: he's not at least that's what you told the Orlando 605 00:33:17,120 --> 00:33:21,120 Speaker 1: police that he told her actually told her that whatever. 606 00:33:21,160 --> 00:33:23,080 Speaker 1: That's a quote according to Bill, when he told Lisa 607 00:33:23,120 --> 00:33:26,320 Speaker 1: that it was over quote, she seemed a little disappointed, 608 00:33:26,360 --> 00:33:30,000 Speaker 1: but she seemed to be accepting of that right now. 609 00:33:30,160 --> 00:33:32,200 Speaker 1: The next day she calls him, and the day after 610 00:33:32,240 --> 00:33:34,000 Speaker 1: that she calls him just like the day before she'd 611 00:33:34,000 --> 00:33:35,400 Speaker 1: called him and all the rest of the days that 612 00:33:35,440 --> 00:33:37,360 Speaker 1: he knew her, she called him because she was not 613 00:33:37,480 --> 00:33:41,200 Speaker 1: okay with him. She was lying. No, these are all 614 00:33:41,360 --> 00:33:44,960 Speaker 1: very astronauts are intense people with plans and goals and 615 00:33:46,360 --> 00:33:50,320 Speaker 1: messy business in there. Exactly. No, we're we have a 616 00:33:50,400 --> 00:33:52,760 Speaker 1: Lisa making plans to keep stay with Bill. So they 617 00:33:52,800 --> 00:33:54,960 Speaker 1: decided to keep cycling together so she can, like you, 618 00:33:55,120 --> 00:33:57,080 Speaker 1: spend time with him, and they logged flight hours in 619 00:33:57,120 --> 00:34:00,320 Speaker 1: their training aircraft. And she's also you know, making while 620 00:34:00,400 --> 00:34:02,080 Speaker 1: making plans about what to do with her new love 621 00:34:02,200 --> 00:34:06,640 Speaker 1: rival Colleen. Well, while she's preparing for this, it becomes 622 00:34:06,640 --> 00:34:09,399 Speaker 1: her new mission in life. And you know, as we've 623 00:34:09,440 --> 00:34:12,880 Speaker 1: talked about how focused she is, so she's a mission commander. 624 00:34:14,080 --> 00:34:16,319 Speaker 1: She's going to get it done. So she uses her 625 00:34:16,360 --> 00:34:18,360 Speaker 1: key to Bill's apartment to go and check his email, 626 00:34:18,760 --> 00:34:21,319 Speaker 1: and she finds an email from Colleen that laid out 627 00:34:21,320 --> 00:34:23,759 Speaker 1: her upcoming travel itinery to come to Houston and to 628 00:34:23,840 --> 00:34:25,440 Speaker 1: meet Bill and to spend time. They plan to be 629 00:34:25,480 --> 00:34:28,040 Speaker 1: together from February one if every fourth and so much fun. 630 00:34:28,239 --> 00:34:30,480 Speaker 1: And she also must have found the emails with the 631 00:34:30,560 --> 00:34:33,560 Speaker 1: subject lines like I need a rub down, So she 632 00:34:33,840 --> 00:34:37,640 Speaker 1: you know, started seeing red and Lisa now knows where 633 00:34:37,640 --> 00:34:40,279 Speaker 1: Colleen will be, she knows when Colleen would arrive there, 634 00:34:40,400 --> 00:34:42,920 Speaker 1: and ever the logistic Queen Lisa comes up with her 635 00:34:42,960 --> 00:34:46,640 Speaker 1: mission plan. Elizabeth, I'm sure you'd appreciate A Lisa's sense 636 00:34:46,719 --> 00:34:50,960 Speaker 1: of logistics. Logistics, it's kind of yours. I'm all about it. Well, 637 00:34:51,280 --> 00:34:53,440 Speaker 1: here's what she does. She prints out a map from 638 00:34:53,440 --> 00:34:56,040 Speaker 1: Houston to Orlando. She prints out the maps of Orlando, 639 00:34:56,080 --> 00:34:59,040 Speaker 1: where Colleen was living at the time. Then she constructs 640 00:34:59,040 --> 00:35:02,279 Speaker 1: a handwritten lists, lots more lists, because you know, you 641 00:35:02,320 --> 00:35:04,360 Speaker 1: have to have lists to have list I mean, you know, 642 00:35:04,400 --> 00:35:07,279 Speaker 1: if you're doing a criminally insane plan. Lists for number one. 643 00:35:07,880 --> 00:35:09,799 Speaker 1: So she knows that she needs a gun, So that's 644 00:35:09,880 --> 00:35:12,400 Speaker 1: number one. Need a gun, Number two, need a hunting knife, 645 00:35:12,880 --> 00:35:16,279 Speaker 1: number three, need gloves, number more binoculars. Then she goes 646 00:35:16,320 --> 00:35:21,440 Speaker 1: down discreet hit Man style ball cap, sunglasses, makeup a wig, trenchcoat, 647 00:35:21,800 --> 00:35:25,359 Speaker 1: some sweats for the long drive, food and water, maybe 648 00:35:25,400 --> 00:35:28,920 Speaker 1: some beef jerkey cooler for the food exactly, so she 649 00:35:28,960 --> 00:35:31,960 Speaker 1: has all this, Oh yeah, and adult diapers. Now luckily 650 00:35:32,000 --> 00:35:36,400 Speaker 1: she's got these special astronaut diapers, so she's reht to go. Meanwhile, 651 00:35:36,480 --> 00:35:38,879 Speaker 1: Colleen has made the trip to Houston to see Bill. 652 00:35:39,200 --> 00:35:40,840 Speaker 1: The two lovers have a good time, but not a 653 00:35:40,840 --> 00:35:42,600 Speaker 1: great time. Do you know why it wasn't a great 654 00:35:42,600 --> 00:35:45,480 Speaker 1: time Because Lisa had left her cycling bike at Bill's 655 00:35:45,480 --> 00:35:49,160 Speaker 1: place to kind of like mark her territory, see is it? 656 00:35:49,239 --> 00:35:51,080 Speaker 1: She demands the Bill get rid of it, like I 657 00:35:51,160 --> 00:35:52,920 Speaker 1: want this, take it back to her place. He's like, 658 00:35:52,960 --> 00:35:54,719 Speaker 1: I don't know where. I don't know where she is, right, 659 00:35:54,760 --> 00:35:57,960 Speaker 1: and so she's really upset, and she says, and I quote, 660 00:35:58,600 --> 00:36:00,239 Speaker 1: it made me very uncomfortable. It made me want to 661 00:36:00,239 --> 00:36:02,279 Speaker 1: pull away from this relationship because it made me think 662 00:36:02,320 --> 00:36:05,920 Speaker 1: that he didn't quite cut his ties. Maybe yeah, But 663 00:36:05,960 --> 00:36:09,120 Speaker 1: then there was the other greater like clarifier for is 664 00:36:09,160 --> 00:36:11,160 Speaker 1: when they were lying in bed and he called her 665 00:36:11,200 --> 00:36:17,560 Speaker 1: Lisa by a mistake. She almost broke it off by then, 666 00:36:17,600 --> 00:36:19,920 Speaker 1: but it was too late because at that point she 667 00:36:19,960 --> 00:36:21,879 Speaker 1: had to tickets Bot, she needed to get back home, 668 00:36:21,880 --> 00:36:23,920 Speaker 1: and Lisa nowak was on her way to get rid 669 00:36:23,960 --> 00:36:29,960 Speaker 1: of Colleen. Oh so, after this little shortbreak, because Lisa 670 00:36:30,040 --> 00:36:33,279 Speaker 1: has hundreds of miles to go before she sleeps, we'll 671 00:36:33,320 --> 00:36:56,920 Speaker 1: be back with the rest of this unhinged story, all right, Elizabeth, 672 00:36:57,719 --> 00:37:02,400 Speaker 1: you ready for the big confrontation. Ready, You've got your 673 00:37:02,440 --> 00:37:06,200 Speaker 1: astronauts primed. You got Bill, yeah, and you've got Colleen 674 00:37:06,360 --> 00:37:09,160 Speaker 1: is very intense. And we also have our girl Lisa Nowak, 675 00:37:09,200 --> 00:37:11,120 Speaker 1: who you know is just going to get the job 676 00:37:11,160 --> 00:37:19,040 Speaker 1: done queen, and she's got diepies. So after driving reportedly 677 00:37:19,080 --> 00:37:22,879 Speaker 1: in her adult diapers, good time, Lisa is a little 678 00:37:22,920 --> 00:37:26,080 Speaker 1: tired in moody now, Elizabeth, like she's been sitting in 679 00:37:26,120 --> 00:37:31,680 Speaker 1: her own filth oh yeah, and steaming film. Elizabeth. I'd 680 00:37:31,719 --> 00:37:35,279 Speaker 1: like you could close your eyes to picture it. All right, 681 00:37:35,400 --> 00:37:40,120 Speaker 1: you asked for it. It's February three. You're at the 682 00:37:40,239 --> 00:37:43,520 Speaker 1: Orlando airport. It's three am in the morning. You're wondering 683 00:37:43,560 --> 00:37:47,880 Speaker 1: what choices you've been making when your life. You're on 684 00:37:47,920 --> 00:37:50,520 Speaker 1: a sales trip. You were in Houston selling glass eyeballs 685 00:37:50,520 --> 00:37:53,240 Speaker 1: to the VA hospital system. You did great, you locked 686 00:37:53,320 --> 00:37:55,239 Speaker 1: up the deal and now on your way back home. 687 00:37:55,400 --> 00:37:58,040 Speaker 1: But there's one problem. When you arriving Orlando, your luggage 688 00:37:58,120 --> 00:37:59,919 Speaker 1: is not there, and you're like, damn it, I want 689 00:37:59,920 --> 00:38:01,719 Speaker 1: to get home. I got I got tickets to go 690 00:38:01,760 --> 00:38:04,839 Speaker 1: to the Upcot Center in the morning, but my eyeball samples. Yeah, 691 00:38:04,880 --> 00:38:07,120 Speaker 1: exactly so, with your luggage and yet to arrive. You 692 00:38:07,120 --> 00:38:09,880 Speaker 1: have to wait, and there's one other woman alone waiting 693 00:38:09,880 --> 00:38:12,239 Speaker 1: with you there at three in the morning for your luggage. 694 00:38:12,560 --> 00:38:13,960 Speaker 1: The two of you have just been kind of like, 695 00:38:14,040 --> 00:38:16,080 Speaker 1: you know, keeping each other company, not really talking, but 696 00:38:16,160 --> 00:38:18,400 Speaker 1: you know, making sure that you're safe in there alone 697 00:38:18,400 --> 00:38:20,759 Speaker 1: in an airport in the night. Now, what you don't 698 00:38:20,800 --> 00:38:22,880 Speaker 1: know is that waiting for the woman who's there waiting 699 00:38:22,920 --> 00:38:26,080 Speaker 1: with you. Is there another woman, Lisa No Whack. She's 700 00:38:26,080 --> 00:38:28,720 Speaker 1: in her car, sitting alone, clutching a photo of Colleen 701 00:38:28,719 --> 00:38:30,879 Speaker 1: that she has stolen from Bill's place, and she's using 702 00:38:30,880 --> 00:38:34,719 Speaker 1: binoculars to surveil her target. It also sees you as 703 00:38:34,719 --> 00:38:37,279 Speaker 1: you get up. Your luggage is finally here. Yeah, you 704 00:38:37,520 --> 00:38:39,520 Speaker 1: get to go home. It looks like you will get 705 00:38:39,560 --> 00:38:42,120 Speaker 1: to go to the Upcot Center tomorrow morning. Now time 706 00:38:42,200 --> 00:38:45,000 Speaker 1: for Lisa to make her move. She gets out of 707 00:38:45,000 --> 00:38:46,920 Speaker 1: her car and stalks to where you two are. She 708 00:38:47,000 --> 00:38:53,279 Speaker 1: got a big soggy kaboozapes. You and the other woman 709 00:38:53,400 --> 00:38:55,719 Speaker 1: walk together to the shovel bus that'll take you to 710 00:38:55,760 --> 00:38:57,960 Speaker 1: the airport parking lot. You both feel safe for not 711 00:38:58,000 --> 00:39:00,520 Speaker 1: being alone. So it's three am until you're right now. 712 00:39:00,640 --> 00:39:02,920 Speaker 1: Just before the shuttle bus pulls away, a third woman 713 00:39:02,920 --> 00:39:05,640 Speaker 1: gets on the bus. You didn't recognize this woman. She 714 00:39:05,680 --> 00:39:08,280 Speaker 1: wasn't on your flight, but she catches your eye because 715 00:39:08,320 --> 00:39:10,960 Speaker 1: she has no luggage. She's also wearing a black wig. 716 00:39:11,200 --> 00:39:13,960 Speaker 1: She has on sunglasses and a trench coat. And it's 717 00:39:14,000 --> 00:39:16,520 Speaker 1: three am in the morning, there's no sun out and 718 00:39:16,560 --> 00:39:19,680 Speaker 1: it's nice Orlando. What's with the trench coat? So she 719 00:39:19,800 --> 00:39:22,120 Speaker 1: looks like a kid's idea of a spot right right, 720 00:39:22,840 --> 00:39:25,080 Speaker 1: just escaped from a Pink Panther movie. And I to 721 00:39:25,200 --> 00:39:27,560 Speaker 1: the shuttle bus. But the black wig is so bad 722 00:39:27,600 --> 00:39:29,560 Speaker 1: you can't help but stare at It's like a Halloween 723 00:39:29,600 --> 00:39:31,839 Speaker 1: fright wig exactly. You're like, a girl, come on now. 724 00:39:32,360 --> 00:39:34,719 Speaker 1: But the other woman is, you know, also wearing a 725 00:39:34,760 --> 00:39:36,680 Speaker 1: nondescript ball cap, like a hit man in a Michael 726 00:39:36,719 --> 00:39:41,200 Speaker 1: Man movie. So you're like this feeling safe? I don't 727 00:39:41,280 --> 00:39:44,040 Speaker 1: feel safe. So the shuttle bus drops the three of 728 00:39:44,080 --> 00:39:46,280 Speaker 1: you off in the airport parking lot, and you're like, okay, 729 00:39:46,360 --> 00:39:48,400 Speaker 1: do you each walk to your car? But you notice 730 00:39:48,400 --> 00:39:49,920 Speaker 1: that the other woman in the one of the bad 731 00:39:49,960 --> 00:39:51,880 Speaker 1: wig in the trench coat, she seems to be following 732 00:39:51,920 --> 00:39:54,640 Speaker 1: the lady from your flight. You're getting your car and 733 00:39:54,680 --> 00:39:56,360 Speaker 1: you decided not to leave right away. You watched for 734 00:39:56,400 --> 00:40:00,800 Speaker 1: a moment you have a bad feeling, and he watches 735 00:40:00,840 --> 00:40:03,799 Speaker 1: the woman from your flight. Colleen reaches her car, the 736 00:40:03,840 --> 00:40:06,000 Speaker 1: woman in the bad wig and the trench coat Lisa, 737 00:40:06,239 --> 00:40:10,680 Speaker 1: and following her. Colleen like, you looks nervous. She Colleen 738 00:40:10,719 --> 00:40:12,640 Speaker 1: rushes to open her car door. She manages to get 739 00:40:12,680 --> 00:40:15,080 Speaker 1: it open and get in safely inside. So she's like, 740 00:40:15,320 --> 00:40:17,640 Speaker 1: feeling a little better now, and you're feeling a little better. Everyone, 741 00:40:17,680 --> 00:40:19,959 Speaker 1: we're all feeling good, except for people wearing black wigs 742 00:40:20,000 --> 00:40:22,160 Speaker 1: are feeling better. I mean, you're feeling as best as 743 00:40:22,200 --> 00:40:25,960 Speaker 1: you can. For three in the morning in Orlando, everything's 744 00:40:26,000 --> 00:40:29,200 Speaker 1: looking up. You're about to do things coming up millhouse. 745 00:40:29,760 --> 00:40:32,759 Speaker 1: But before Colleen can start the car, Lisa slaps the 746 00:40:32,760 --> 00:40:35,880 Speaker 1: car window. Colleen and you both practically jump out of 747 00:40:35,880 --> 00:40:39,440 Speaker 1: your skin. You're like, what now. Lisa sets through the 748 00:40:39,440 --> 00:40:43,160 Speaker 1: car window. Can you help me please? My boyfriend was 749 00:40:43,160 --> 00:40:45,040 Speaker 1: supposed to pick me up and he's not here. I've 750 00:40:45,080 --> 00:40:46,719 Speaker 1: been traveling and it's late. Can you give me a 751 00:40:46,800 --> 00:40:50,000 Speaker 1: ride to the parking office? And you can't quite hear 752 00:40:50,160 --> 00:40:54,000 Speaker 1: her response, but Colleen is like, although, if you need help, 753 00:40:54,040 --> 00:40:56,920 Speaker 1: I'll send someone to help you. Smart Now, Lisa isn't 754 00:40:56,960 --> 00:40:59,040 Speaker 1: about to give up. She's driven way too long to 755 00:40:59,040 --> 00:41:01,720 Speaker 1: get here, so she says, can I use your phone? 756 00:41:01,840 --> 00:41:04,839 Speaker 1: And Colleen's quick like you she's ready with a good lie. 757 00:41:04,920 --> 00:41:08,840 Speaker 1: She's like, oh, my phone battery is dead? Know is 758 00:41:08,880 --> 00:41:14,319 Speaker 1: a complete sentence? Good answer? Can yeah? And then hit 759 00:41:14,400 --> 00:41:18,680 Speaker 1: the gas peel out Lisa, she's getting desperate because she's 760 00:41:18,680 --> 00:41:21,040 Speaker 1: worried that Colleen's is gonna peel out and do some donuts. 761 00:41:21,040 --> 00:41:24,120 Speaker 1: So she's like, okay, what I got left? She starts crying. 762 00:41:24,160 --> 00:41:26,359 Speaker 1: She just starts starts crying, and that's when I really 763 00:41:26,440 --> 00:41:29,520 Speaker 1: hit the gas and get out of there. So she's like, okay. 764 00:41:29,760 --> 00:41:32,800 Speaker 1: Colleen's like, I can't hear what you're saying. And you know, 765 00:41:32,920 --> 00:41:34,680 Speaker 1: Colle must have felt a little bait because she starts 766 00:41:34,719 --> 00:41:37,200 Speaker 1: to lower her car window and you're watching. You're like, girl, no, 767 00:41:38,239 --> 00:41:41,320 Speaker 1: and your instincts are right, because just as College is 768 00:41:41,360 --> 00:41:44,040 Speaker 1: explaining by saying my phone battery is a debt, she 769 00:41:44,080 --> 00:41:46,200 Speaker 1: gets hit in the face with a spray of pepper 770 00:41:46,239 --> 00:41:51,879 Speaker 1: spray and Lisa just laded into it. Oh yeah, it's 771 00:41:51,880 --> 00:41:56,959 Speaker 1: pretty much painted, right, Colleen shouts, bitch right. Her car 772 00:41:57,120 --> 00:41:59,640 Speaker 1: is already on, She's got the engine idling. She pours 773 00:41:59,680 --> 00:42:02,279 Speaker 1: in with a face full of pepper. Spra goes through 774 00:42:02,320 --> 00:42:05,400 Speaker 1: the parking lot escates. You're like, what the hell is 775 00:42:05,440 --> 00:42:08,920 Speaker 1: going on? Is this like some like mid level marketing 776 00:42:08,920 --> 00:42:10,719 Speaker 1: thing going on? I don't know about what? What is 777 00:42:10,760 --> 00:42:16,000 Speaker 1: this marketing? Ward? Lisa has just blown her kidnapping, That's 778 00:42:16,000 --> 00:42:18,960 Speaker 1: what's right. She drove all those miles in the adult 779 00:42:19,000 --> 00:42:24,520 Speaker 1: diaper for nothing. Half an hour later, Lisa will be 780 00:42:24,520 --> 00:42:27,360 Speaker 1: in custody. The Orlando Police will arrest her after she 781 00:42:27,400 --> 00:42:30,000 Speaker 1: gets spotted disposing of her bad black wig and the 782 00:42:30,040 --> 00:42:37,799 Speaker 1: baby gun that she had read writer exactly. But when 783 00:42:37,800 --> 00:42:40,120 Speaker 1: the police take apart in Lisa's car, the cops discover 784 00:42:40,480 --> 00:42:46,720 Speaker 1: a mallet of four inch porge bucket exactly, not a hammer, 785 00:42:46,719 --> 00:42:54,520 Speaker 1: I'm not like, as your beef. She also has rubber tubing, yeah, 786 00:42:54,920 --> 00:42:57,160 Speaker 1: and rubber gloves, and the cops discover a set of 787 00:42:57,160 --> 00:42:59,440 Speaker 1: bondage photos that were her inspiration for what she was 788 00:42:59,480 --> 00:43:01,160 Speaker 1: gonna do, Like this is how to tie a knot 789 00:43:01,800 --> 00:43:04,640 Speaker 1: restrainer person? Like what space made her? A real sick 790 00:43:04,640 --> 00:43:06,400 Speaker 1: of I don't know. I don't think. I think she 791 00:43:06,480 --> 00:43:09,480 Speaker 1: just needs to not work. She's like, these are the 792 00:43:09,520 --> 00:43:14,040 Speaker 1: best examples of knots I can find online. I don't know, no, no, 793 00:43:14,280 --> 00:43:17,680 Speaker 1: come on now, I don't think it was kinky, though 794 00:43:17,680 --> 00:43:20,200 Speaker 1: I really did based on I think she was like, 795 00:43:20,239 --> 00:43:22,000 Speaker 1: you know, it's like called maybe degradation, but I don't 796 00:43:22,000 --> 00:43:25,840 Speaker 1: think she was getting off from it anyway. The DAS office, 797 00:43:26,040 --> 00:43:27,960 Speaker 1: they decide, we know what to do with this, so 798 00:43:28,120 --> 00:43:32,400 Speaker 1: they charge Lisa with attempted murder, attempting, being attempted burglary, 799 00:43:34,200 --> 00:43:39,240 Speaker 1: destruction about attempt at illegal tubing. In the police report, 800 00:43:39,280 --> 00:43:45,359 Speaker 1: there was one oh my goodness, go on, I'm giving 801 00:43:45,400 --> 00:43:46,960 Speaker 1: you that one. I'm going to give a little space, 802 00:43:47,040 --> 00:43:49,640 Speaker 1: thank you. Now. In the police report, there's one particular 803 00:43:49,680 --> 00:43:51,239 Speaker 1: detail of the story that jumped out. This was a 804 00:43:51,239 --> 00:43:53,680 Speaker 1: detail that ended up becoming the story. There are these 805 00:43:53,680 --> 00:43:59,800 Speaker 1: specially made diapers for astronauts. Now exactly the technical terms. 806 00:44:00,600 --> 00:44:04,000 Speaker 1: What you gotta say it like that, like you're like 807 00:44:04,000 --> 00:44:06,319 Speaker 1: like that's like you're spitting bars. Like I just got 808 00:44:06,320 --> 00:44:07,839 Speaker 1: to the front and I said, hey, where is your 809 00:44:07,920 --> 00:44:10,759 Speaker 1: diapes in the store? Like all I want is diapes? 810 00:44:10,960 --> 00:44:13,359 Speaker 1: But girl, she sent me with twenty bucks for some diapes. 811 00:44:13,400 --> 00:44:15,960 Speaker 1: There it is, since it takes a long time to 812 00:44:16,000 --> 00:44:18,719 Speaker 1: get you out of your space suit. Astronuts they wear 813 00:44:18,840 --> 00:44:21,600 Speaker 1: adult diapers because they just you know, just they must 814 00:44:21,640 --> 00:44:25,759 Speaker 1: be like high quality for astronauts. Absorbent. Yeah, now they're 815 00:44:25,760 --> 00:44:30,200 Speaker 1: called maximum absorption garments mags, mags. They really are called 816 00:44:30,239 --> 00:44:39,560 Speaker 1: mags andr mag's there, Steve, like adult action diapers. It's 817 00:44:39,600 --> 00:44:41,120 Speaker 1: not a good of an acronym. I can see why 818 00:44:41,120 --> 00:44:42,759 Speaker 1: they don't use it, but it's more fun to say, 819 00:44:42,800 --> 00:44:45,360 Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell I'm rocking mag's now. Of course, I 820 00:44:45,400 --> 00:44:47,160 Speaker 1: wanted this to be clear. I don't need to make 821 00:44:47,200 --> 00:44:50,879 Speaker 1: fun of anybody who wears adult diapers. Don't nothing wrong 822 00:44:50,880 --> 00:44:53,279 Speaker 1: with adult diapers. The whole point of the funny part 823 00:44:53,280 --> 00:44:55,640 Speaker 1: for me about this is how the adults talk about 824 00:44:55,719 --> 00:44:58,200 Speaker 1: the adult diapers. Well, it's the idea too that like, 825 00:44:58,280 --> 00:45:00,719 Speaker 1: it's not she just does don't want to stop the 826 00:45:00,719 --> 00:45:03,000 Speaker 1: car because she's out to kill some lady. Yeah, that's 827 00:45:03,400 --> 00:45:05,200 Speaker 1: that's like the fact that you're going to put on 828 00:45:05,320 --> 00:45:08,920 Speaker 1: dopies and do that like this is the only way, honestly, 829 00:45:09,000 --> 00:45:12,800 Speaker 1: it's like that's not however, to take to pee like Seriously, 830 00:45:13,320 --> 00:45:17,320 Speaker 1: that's minutes here, ten fifteen minutes. Seems a little intelligent, 831 00:45:17,440 --> 00:45:21,480 Speaker 1: That's all I'm saying. Admittedly, I have taken the big 832 00:45:21,520 --> 00:45:24,839 Speaker 1: Gatorade bottle with me. I know her thinking I get 833 00:45:24,880 --> 00:45:27,760 Speaker 1: it now. At one level, though, you just say adult diapers, 834 00:45:27,800 --> 00:45:30,160 Speaker 1: it does kind of sound like adult passifier or adult 835 00:45:30,160 --> 00:45:32,840 Speaker 1: feeding bib. It's like, oh, the adult part becomes comical 836 00:45:32,880 --> 00:45:35,799 Speaker 1: because it doesn't belong adults were diapers. There's nothing. It's 837 00:45:35,840 --> 00:45:37,680 Speaker 1: just more of a sizing thing. You know it's right, 838 00:45:37,880 --> 00:45:41,200 Speaker 1: so you buy the right one, right anyway, Like I 839 00:45:41,400 --> 00:45:43,400 Speaker 1: imagine if we did have adult passifire, you can just 840 00:45:43,400 --> 00:45:45,239 Speaker 1: like pop it in someone's mouth and they're being called 841 00:45:45,320 --> 00:45:54,759 Speaker 1: cigarette cranky three it's called vaping, sar and look it up. 842 00:45:55,120 --> 00:46:01,319 Speaker 1: He says it's adult passifier. I guess he doesn't really 843 00:46:01,320 --> 00:46:03,279 Speaker 1: do the job I'm talking about, or you'd be like, 844 00:46:03,560 --> 00:46:05,920 Speaker 1: you know, you're so grouchy. Sure, but this is you're 845 00:46:05,920 --> 00:46:11,279 Speaker 1: about lollipop. There you go, Steve, there you just suck 846 00:46:11,320 --> 00:46:15,520 Speaker 1: on it. There you go, Steve, calm down, Yeah, okay, 847 00:46:15,520 --> 00:46:18,040 Speaker 1: I want lollipop. I mean that would work too. But 848 00:46:18,320 --> 00:46:21,879 Speaker 1: returning to the adult diapers, Yes, the if you're willing 849 00:46:21,960 --> 00:46:23,840 Speaker 1: to do yourself and sit in your own filth just 850 00:46:23,880 --> 00:46:25,640 Speaker 1: so you can make better time. That is where the 851 00:46:25,719 --> 00:46:28,200 Speaker 1: key of the funny is in my opinion, And you agree, right, 852 00:46:28,280 --> 00:46:31,239 Speaker 1: you know the adult diapers part, You know, it's the 853 00:46:31,280 --> 00:46:35,200 Speaker 1: focus for the group. You would imagine late night talking 854 00:46:35,200 --> 00:46:38,080 Speaker 1: about They jump all over it, Jimmy Kimmel joked, and 855 00:46:38,160 --> 00:46:40,000 Speaker 1: like quote, a woman is willing to wear diapers, don't 856 00:46:40,000 --> 00:46:42,040 Speaker 1: have to pull over in the car. I would marry 857 00:46:42,160 --> 00:46:46,879 Speaker 1: that woman exactly, so like a bunch of sexy that joke, 858 00:46:47,080 --> 00:46:49,799 Speaker 1: Jimmy Kimmel. I had a dream about Jimmy Kimmel last 859 00:46:49,880 --> 00:46:52,800 Speaker 1: night that he had his own line of orange Blossom honey. 860 00:46:54,360 --> 00:46:56,640 Speaker 1: But I didn't want anyone in my family to consume 861 00:46:56,680 --> 00:46:59,279 Speaker 1: it because we also were supposed to hate him, because 862 00:46:59,320 --> 00:47:01,560 Speaker 1: you're not supposed to have any opinion on him. But 863 00:47:01,640 --> 00:47:04,760 Speaker 1: that's that's weird that you're mentioning him. Yeah, well, Jimmy 864 00:47:04,840 --> 00:47:09,960 Speaker 1: Kimmel adult action diapers. Yeah, well, but it wasn't Jimmy 865 00:47:10,760 --> 00:47:14,120 Speaker 1: and the rest of the culture. These diapers became a 866 00:47:14,200 --> 00:47:18,239 Speaker 1: thing like and specifically the astronaut parts. So like my 867 00:47:18,400 --> 00:47:21,000 Speaker 1: favorite of the franchises, Law and Order, Criminal Intent, they 868 00:47:21,080 --> 00:47:25,399 Speaker 1: did or ripped from the headline. I don't watch TV, 869 00:47:25,480 --> 00:47:30,800 Speaker 1: but I would assume it was a badly center imagining 870 00:47:30,840 --> 00:47:34,040 Speaker 1: if if it was something I could ever watch, if 871 00:47:34,080 --> 00:47:37,680 Speaker 1: you maybe might have thought you watched, well, there was 872 00:47:37,719 --> 00:47:39,640 Speaker 1: also something you might have liked. To Ben Folds of 873 00:47:39,719 --> 00:47:42,200 Speaker 1: ben Folds five, he wrote a song about it, brick 874 00:47:42,680 --> 00:47:46,600 Speaker 1: no cologne, Oh yeah, I don't know. Also your favorite 875 00:47:46,680 --> 00:47:52,000 Speaker 1: rapper Common minding a song driving me wild, this choice 876 00:47:52,080 --> 00:48:00,880 Speaker 1: lyric driving himself crazy like Astro not lady, right, turtle 877 00:48:00,920 --> 00:48:04,440 Speaker 1: next to tight Now Lisa no uck? She uh the 878 00:48:04,480 --> 00:48:06,320 Speaker 1: Florida State, They're like, look, you need to get that 879 00:48:06,440 --> 00:48:08,799 Speaker 1: or Landa. We're sending you back to Houston. They put 880 00:48:08,800 --> 00:48:10,920 Speaker 1: a GPS ankle bracelet on her so that way the 881 00:48:10,920 --> 00:48:13,239 Speaker 1: state of Florida will be warned as she crossed over 882 00:48:13,280 --> 00:48:15,080 Speaker 1: the border back into Florida, and they sent her back 883 00:48:15,080 --> 00:48:21,000 Speaker 1: to Texas. So she gets to Houston. Her parents are 884 00:48:21,040 --> 00:48:22,960 Speaker 1: there to meet her, which is really nice, and then 885 00:48:23,200 --> 00:48:25,520 Speaker 1: there's also the international media there to meet her, which 886 00:48:25,600 --> 00:48:27,759 Speaker 1: is not so nice. Pretty nice. They just sound in 887 00:48:27,760 --> 00:48:30,200 Speaker 1: her neighborhood like a pack of vultures, just like ready 888 00:48:30,239 --> 00:48:32,279 Speaker 1: for any pickings, right, And there's like all the you know, 889 00:48:32,360 --> 00:48:34,439 Speaker 1: there's the Daily Mail, the Sun, the New York Post, 890 00:48:34,480 --> 00:48:37,720 Speaker 1: but also see an instance at Satellite Truck, Wall Street Journal, 891 00:48:37,719 --> 00:48:40,719 Speaker 1: New York Shires. Everybody's there, Dr Phil, He's had a 892 00:48:40,760 --> 00:48:46,520 Speaker 1: fed package to the house. No, it's just like, you know, 893 00:48:46,640 --> 00:48:48,520 Speaker 1: like him was asking for an interview. I don't know 894 00:48:48,520 --> 00:48:51,600 Speaker 1: it was inside the box, but we know that what's 895 00:48:51,600 --> 00:48:53,960 Speaker 1: in the box. What's in the box? I thought you 896 00:48:53,960 --> 00:48:55,799 Speaker 1: were going to say that Dr Phil was camping her 897 00:48:56,160 --> 00:49:00,960 Speaker 1: Gwyneth Paltrow's head in a box. That's where that the 898 00:49:00,960 --> 00:49:03,920 Speaker 1: whole standing of seven comes from. His astronaut diaper was 899 00:49:03,960 --> 00:49:09,760 Speaker 1: shoved in her mouth. So I'm glad you mentioned the astronaut. 900 00:49:09,840 --> 00:49:13,279 Speaker 1: Mark Kelly, I'm just gonna skip right to him. He 901 00:49:13,360 --> 00:49:15,200 Speaker 1: steps into the middle of this media storm to try 902 00:49:15,239 --> 00:49:18,959 Speaker 1: to calm down the noise because he's a decent guy. 903 00:49:17,000 --> 00:49:21,040 Speaker 1: He's just a dude. Yeah, He's like, Oh, I called 904 00:49:21,080 --> 00:49:23,600 Speaker 1: Lisa last week and she sounds pretty depressed to me. 905 00:49:23,600 --> 00:49:25,439 Speaker 1: We're gonna try to get together with her this week. 906 00:49:25,520 --> 00:49:27,319 Speaker 1: She has nothing to do. She just sits in her 907 00:49:27,320 --> 00:49:29,600 Speaker 1: house all day every day. And he's just like, you're 908 00:49:29,600 --> 00:49:31,880 Speaker 1: going to humanizer, which is really the thing I think 909 00:49:32,120 --> 00:49:35,320 Speaker 1: that's important is people forget they're like astronaut, astronaut, astronaut. 910 00:49:35,320 --> 00:49:37,319 Speaker 1: It's like, no, no, just person. For a woman has 911 00:49:37,400 --> 00:49:40,440 Speaker 1: to deal with the consequences of her actions. Well, no, 912 00:49:40,640 --> 00:49:43,880 Speaker 1: it's not what I mean. But anyway, Lisa, she loses 913 00:49:43,960 --> 00:49:46,120 Speaker 1: nearly everything, but not her freedom. She only she gets 914 00:49:46,120 --> 00:49:48,600 Speaker 1: a plea deal. She manages to get a year's probation, 915 00:49:49,120 --> 00:49:51,120 Speaker 1: and she makes very few public statements in that time. 916 00:49:51,280 --> 00:49:54,040 Speaker 1: But outside of the courtroom, she did apologize to Colleen. 917 00:49:54,160 --> 00:49:56,239 Speaker 1: She said, I know this has been very hard for 918 00:49:56,280 --> 00:49:58,000 Speaker 1: calling Shipman, and I would like her to know how 919 00:49:58,120 --> 00:49:59,919 Speaker 1: very sorry I am for having frightened her in any 920 00:50:00,040 --> 00:50:02,880 Speaker 1: way and about the subsequent public harassment that has followed 921 00:50:02,920 --> 00:50:06,000 Speaker 1: all of us. Now, this media storm has at that 922 00:50:06,040 --> 00:50:08,520 Speaker 1: point had long since moved on, because and Nicole Smith 923 00:50:08,520 --> 00:50:12,560 Speaker 1: passed away like two days after all, it's pretty space 924 00:50:13,480 --> 00:50:18,000 Speaker 1: ye love, what a time he was just living. So 925 00:50:18,160 --> 00:50:20,800 Speaker 1: the folks in Hollywood they decide, you know what, this story, 926 00:50:21,120 --> 00:50:23,759 Speaker 1: this is a movie, So they get Natalie Portman to 927 00:50:23,800 --> 00:50:25,600 Speaker 1: star in it, and it keeps the story alive in 928 00:50:25,600 --> 00:50:28,480 Speaker 1: the culture. Except for the problem is that the movie bomb. 929 00:50:28,560 --> 00:50:33,319 Speaker 1: The movie was terrible. Get generally. Well, it was called 930 00:50:33,400 --> 00:50:35,759 Speaker 1: Lucy and the Sky. The reason why you never heard 931 00:50:35,760 --> 00:50:37,840 Speaker 1: of it is because it's what we in the Hollywood 932 00:50:37,920 --> 00:50:43,120 Speaker 1: business called terrible. Is that an industry I'd like to 933 00:50:43,120 --> 00:50:46,120 Speaker 1: give you the technical terms. Yeah, the film tank because 934 00:50:46,239 --> 00:50:48,920 Speaker 1: and when it tank, Natalie she blamed the adult diapers 935 00:50:49,680 --> 00:50:52,560 Speaker 1: stop it. But really she blamed the lack of adult 936 00:50:52,560 --> 00:50:55,560 Speaker 1: diapers because Portman and the director decided to leave the 937 00:50:55,600 --> 00:50:58,160 Speaker 1: diapers out of the story. They decided, you know this, 938 00:50:58,160 --> 00:51:01,000 Speaker 1: this astronaut, a droves and a diapers, We're just going 939 00:51:01,080 --> 00:51:04,680 Speaker 1: to do the nine D miles. They missed such a 940 00:51:04,719 --> 00:51:07,960 Speaker 1: good scene of her in the bathroom trapping up, like 941 00:51:08,160 --> 00:51:10,360 Speaker 1: waddling out with a tight fit, Like, how are you 942 00:51:10,360 --> 00:51:12,480 Speaker 1: going to leave out the space diapers? I mean, if 943 00:51:12,480 --> 00:51:15,400 Speaker 1: you're gonna be playing it for that to the desperate silver, 944 00:51:15,640 --> 00:51:20,799 Speaker 1: the space diapers, duct tape, duct tape on diapers. When 945 00:51:20,840 --> 00:51:24,960 Speaker 1: she leans over the window of Colleen's car, likes leaking 946 00:51:25,000 --> 00:51:28,960 Speaker 1: out the leg because it doesn't have that like Huggies technology, 947 00:51:29,040 --> 00:51:32,200 Speaker 1: doesn't have the absorbent grip like the two year old 948 00:51:32,200 --> 00:51:34,080 Speaker 1: toddler leg that I was like, Oh, nothing's going to 949 00:51:34,200 --> 00:51:35,920 Speaker 1: escape this diaper. And that's just like, how do you 950 00:51:36,000 --> 00:51:42,520 Speaker 1: do it? Like you gotta have to those chubby toddler legs. Okay, 951 00:51:42,960 --> 00:51:46,360 Speaker 1: Slate went so far as to also like disparage this movie. 952 00:51:46,560 --> 00:51:49,320 Speaker 1: They wrote a piece with the title, I'm boycotting Natalie 953 00:51:49,320 --> 00:51:53,719 Speaker 1: Apartment's diaper less Astronaut diaper movie. Really get to the point, 954 00:51:54,080 --> 00:51:56,040 Speaker 1: and in response, now the Apartment to the only Times 955 00:51:56,040 --> 00:51:58,719 Speaker 1: and she said, oh the diaper sadness. True story. She 956 00:51:58,760 --> 00:52:01,640 Speaker 1: really did. Now. She also added a little more salient 957 00:52:01,680 --> 00:52:04,200 Speaker 1: appraisal if you'd like a little more from Natalie Apartment. 958 00:52:04,800 --> 00:52:06,880 Speaker 1: It was an interesting detail because it was something that 959 00:52:06,880 --> 00:52:08,759 Speaker 1: seems so radical to all of us listening to it, 960 00:52:08,800 --> 00:52:11,480 Speaker 1: but actually it's part of an astronaut's life. They wear 961 00:52:11,520 --> 00:52:14,120 Speaker 1: diapers the whole time because that's what you do in space. 962 00:52:14,440 --> 00:52:16,279 Speaker 1: It's not like it would be an unusual choice. It 963 00:52:16,320 --> 00:52:19,239 Speaker 1: seems like a lot nuttier if that's not something you 964 00:52:19,280 --> 00:52:20,920 Speaker 1: do every day. But I guess I still have a 965 00:52:20,960 --> 00:52:24,320 Speaker 1: diaper movie in my future to fulfill everyone's expectations. Natalie, 966 00:52:24,520 --> 00:52:28,359 Speaker 1: so she was not in space going to Orlando. They 967 00:52:28,360 --> 00:52:32,120 Speaker 1: wear them in space, Natalie, the diapers, no, not on her. 968 00:52:32,239 --> 00:52:35,240 Speaker 1: Didn't not get it. No, But you know, for fans 969 00:52:35,239 --> 00:52:37,680 Speaker 1: of diaper levies. You got something to look forward to 970 00:52:37,840 --> 00:52:44,520 Speaker 1: now on the bank for you in the chamber, how 971 00:52:44,520 --> 00:52:50,640 Speaker 1: to eat your coming After After the international media moves off, 972 00:52:50,880 --> 00:52:53,560 Speaker 1: Lisa no actually finally gets to speak publicly about this 973 00:52:53,640 --> 00:52:57,120 Speaker 1: adult diaper situation and clarify the record. She says something 974 00:52:57,160 --> 00:52:59,160 Speaker 1: to her Naval review board about whether or not she 975 00:52:59,160 --> 00:53:01,239 Speaker 1: gets to stay in the name. She did not. She 976 00:53:01,320 --> 00:53:03,920 Speaker 1: testified under oath that they she was quote not wearing 977 00:53:03,920 --> 00:53:05,959 Speaker 1: the diaper, but it had been in the car since 978 00:53:05,960 --> 00:53:09,759 Speaker 1: an evacuation real during Hurricane Rita more than a year before, right, 979 00:53:09,800 --> 00:53:11,719 Speaker 1: So She's like, they weren't. It's not come on, I 980 00:53:11,719 --> 00:53:14,400 Speaker 1: helt Maybe I had them in the car sape in 981 00:53:14,440 --> 00:53:16,120 Speaker 1: the back. Yeah, I just keep them around in case 982 00:53:16,160 --> 00:53:18,439 Speaker 1: I need them. Right now, there was the reason why 983 00:53:18,440 --> 00:53:23,319 Speaker 1: this all came about the earthquake kitneys. By the way, 984 00:53:23,760 --> 00:53:26,600 Speaker 1: there was an Orlando detective named William Beckton who started 985 00:53:26,600 --> 00:53:29,080 Speaker 1: this whole adult diaper business because he wrote in his 986 00:53:29,120 --> 00:53:31,200 Speaker 1: report that he opened a trash bag in Lisa's car 987 00:53:31,239 --> 00:53:36,759 Speaker 1: and discovered two used adult diapers. I then asked Mr. 988 00:53:36,840 --> 00:53:39,920 Speaker 1: Noak why she had the baby diapers. This is Nowak 989 00:53:39,960 --> 00:53:41,480 Speaker 1: said that she did not want to stop and use 990 00:53:41,520 --> 00:53:43,920 Speaker 1: the restroom, so she used the diapers to collect her urine. 991 00:53:44,560 --> 00:53:46,720 Speaker 1: But he never took any photos of their dirty diapers, 992 00:53:46,840 --> 00:53:48,840 Speaker 1: because he photographed a bunch of the other evidence. But 993 00:53:48,880 --> 00:53:51,120 Speaker 1: he decided, we don't need images of dirty diapers. I'll 994 00:53:51,120 --> 00:53:53,319 Speaker 1: just put that in the report. And that's what her 995 00:53:53,400 --> 00:53:55,839 Speaker 1: lawyer used to basically argue, we have no proof. Right, 996 00:53:56,400 --> 00:53:58,680 Speaker 1: he went on and I quote, the biggest line is 997 00:53:58,760 --> 00:54:01,440 Speaker 1: preposterous tale that has been told is in my client 998 00:54:01,560 --> 00:54:05,200 Speaker 1: drove from Houston, Texas to Orlando, Florida, NonStop wearing a 999 00:54:05,320 --> 00:54:09,200 Speaker 1: diaper that is an absolute fabrication. There were toddless size 1000 00:54:09,280 --> 00:54:11,680 Speaker 1: diapers in a car when she was arrested, but there 1001 00:54:11,800 --> 00:54:14,520 Speaker 1: was several years old. Is it is no big deal? 1002 00:54:14,600 --> 00:54:20,160 Speaker 1: Businesses simple that vintage to some retro diapers. She's a 1003 00:54:20,200 --> 00:54:28,160 Speaker 1: diaper collector man, aficiona that Houston tour Lando pipeline, bad 1004 00:54:28,200 --> 00:54:33,600 Speaker 1: astronaut business man. According to her lawyer, Lisa Nowak didn't 1005 00:54:33,640 --> 00:54:36,600 Speaker 1: wear any of the adult action diapers. She just drove 1006 00:54:36,680 --> 00:54:39,160 Speaker 1: nine miles to confront her rival, and that's all that 1007 00:54:39,160 --> 00:54:40,920 Speaker 1: it was. And you know, she had to carefully construct 1008 00:54:40,920 --> 00:54:42,720 Speaker 1: a set of maps and the mount and the hunting knife, 1009 00:54:42,760 --> 00:54:45,600 Speaker 1: but leave out the diapers. People, come on, what are 1010 00:54:45,600 --> 00:54:48,360 Speaker 1: you delicious? Now? There was one person who also agreed 1011 00:54:48,360 --> 00:54:52,280 Speaker 1: with him, Colleen Shipman, who told the news program quote, 1012 00:54:52,320 --> 00:54:53,879 Speaker 1: I don't mean to be offensive or anything, but that's 1013 00:54:53,880 --> 00:54:56,560 Speaker 1: pretty superficial. I mean, you don't you think the woman 1014 00:54:56,600 --> 00:54:58,680 Speaker 1: committed a crime and the headlines are saying that, oh, 1015 00:54:58,760 --> 00:55:02,759 Speaker 1: she wore a diaper, so yeah, added bonus, that's the 1016 00:55:02,800 --> 00:55:06,480 Speaker 1: power windows in this sports car. In the end, things 1017 00:55:06,520 --> 00:55:09,319 Speaker 1: worked out better for Colleen, though she and Bill wound 1018 00:55:09,400 --> 00:55:12,479 Speaker 1: up getting married. They moved up to Alaska. Colleen became 1019 00:55:12,520 --> 00:55:14,960 Speaker 1: a writer, She published a novel, and she and Bill 1020 00:55:15,000 --> 00:55:17,560 Speaker 1: now have a son. Until Bill meets the next young things, 1021 00:55:21,120 --> 00:55:24,480 Speaker 1: she's like, where are there a lot of men now? Meanwhile, 1022 00:55:24,600 --> 00:55:27,200 Speaker 1: Lisa divorced her husband, most recently in twenty nineteen. Her 1023 00:55:27,239 --> 00:55:29,400 Speaker 1: lawyer told People magazine to quote that Lisa is now 1024 00:55:29,440 --> 00:55:32,400 Speaker 1: in a better place than she's doing. Well, she's in 1025 00:55:32,440 --> 00:55:35,640 Speaker 1: a better place. All's well, that ends well. And for 1026 00:55:35,719 --> 00:55:37,120 Speaker 1: being for you, I'm going to go get us some 1027 00:55:37,160 --> 00:55:40,400 Speaker 1: of those NASA adult actions for our next long drive 1028 00:55:40,520 --> 00:55:42,399 Speaker 1: or for you just for sitting around if you want, 1029 00:55:42,440 --> 00:55:44,760 Speaker 1: for like, oh, I'm not watching TV, but if I 1030 00:55:44,800 --> 00:55:49,680 Speaker 1: was for the next six hours later. Thank you. That's 1031 00:55:49,719 --> 00:55:53,799 Speaker 1: a good idea. Thank you. So Elizabeth. A second, what's 1032 00:55:53,800 --> 00:55:59,000 Speaker 1: a ridiculous takeaway? Don't go to space. That's stop go 1033 00:55:59,040 --> 00:56:02,040 Speaker 1: to space. It's not where the space is not the place. 1034 00:56:04,640 --> 00:56:07,240 Speaker 1: Well man, thank you for listening. Thank you for sharing 1035 00:56:07,280 --> 00:56:09,279 Speaker 1: that story. 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