WEBVTT - Microsoft Surface Earbuds are worth a look 0:00:03.520 --> 0:00:06.720 Microsoft's new earbuds are worth a look. Apple fixes the 0:00:06.800 --> 0:00:10.600 keyboard on the MacBook thirteen inch laptop, an app to 0:00:10.640 --> 0:00:14.680 see all of your Apple Watch activity stats plus your 0:00:14.800 --> 0:00:18.320 tech questions answered. What's going on? I'm Rich Dmiro and 0:00:18.360 --> 0:00:20.960 this is Rich on Tech, the podcast where I talk 0:00:21.000 --> 0:00:23.800 about the tech stuff I think you should know about, 0:00:24.079 --> 0:00:26.240 and it's also the place where I answer the questions 0:00:26.239 --> 0:00:28.960 that you send me. My name is Rich Dmiro. I'm 0:00:28.960 --> 0:00:32.160 the tech reporter at KTLA Channel five in Los Angeles. 0:00:32.600 --> 0:00:36.479 Joining me is producer Megan, who is mourning the loss 0:00:36.840 --> 0:00:38.560 this morning of suit plantation. 0:00:40.440 --> 0:00:44.200 Oh I didn't even hear about that. That's so sad. 0:00:44.360 --> 0:00:46.360 Yeah, it's getting a lot of play. Have you ever 0:00:46.400 --> 0:00:47.479 been to a suit plantation? 0:00:49.080 --> 0:00:49.920 Maybe once? 0:00:51.840 --> 0:00:53.640 It was popular on the West Side. When I lived 0:00:53.640 --> 0:00:55.840 in Brentwood for a long time, they had a suit 0:00:55.840 --> 0:00:58.920 plantation there and we would go. Probably only went three times, 0:00:58.920 --> 0:01:01.840 but it was always good. And now apparently they're closing down. 0:01:02.160 --> 0:01:05.360 So are It's really sad? 0:01:05.680 --> 0:01:07.520 It is kind of sad. So how are you doing? 0:01:07.560 --> 0:01:10.120 People wondered if you had COVID because you weren't around 0:01:10.160 --> 0:01:14.360 for a couple episodes, so they wondered, are you okay, 0:01:15.040 --> 0:01:16.160 just give us the debriefing. 0:01:16.920 --> 0:01:17.759 Yes, I'm okay. 0:01:17.920 --> 0:01:21.520 I had a migraine last week, and so when that happens, 0:01:21.560 --> 0:01:23.200 you're kind of like out of commission. 0:01:23.920 --> 0:01:26.520 And then the week before you recorded later in the day. 0:01:26.840 --> 0:01:29.720 Yeah, I missed that. 0:01:29.240 --> 0:01:33.839 That was yeah, So I tried to explain. I wrote 0:01:33.880 --> 0:01:35.520 back to the emails. You got a lot of them, 0:01:35.560 --> 0:01:37.200 so you are very loved on this show. So you 0:01:37.240 --> 0:01:39.720 should know that a lot of people said they were 0:01:39.720 --> 0:01:41.640 going to unsubscribe if you were not here this week, 0:01:41.720 --> 0:01:42.360 so I made sure. 0:01:42.520 --> 0:01:45.440 No, I don't believe that you've just said fail. 0:01:48.520 --> 0:01:50.840 So how are things going? Because it's, uh, it feels 0:01:50.840 --> 0:01:53.200 like groundhog Day. I thought this was going to be 0:01:53.320 --> 0:01:55.400 a two week thing and it just continues to go 0:01:55.480 --> 0:01:56.360 on and on and on. 0:01:56.800 --> 0:01:59.520 Yeah, it feels I feel like it's just the same day, 0:01:59.560 --> 0:02:01.480 over an overdone. But then it's the weekend and you 0:02:01.520 --> 0:02:02.240 get a little break. 0:02:02.360 --> 0:02:04.560 But things are Things are fine. 0:02:05.040 --> 0:02:08.800 I mean, I'm trying to like stay active and trying 0:02:08.800 --> 0:02:10.079 to like work out every day. 0:02:10.160 --> 0:02:12.960 I feel like that's what he is keeping me sane. 0:02:13.480 --> 0:02:15.880 Do you feel like you're in better shape now than 0:02:15.960 --> 0:02:18.520 you were before COVID, because I feel that way, Yes, 0:02:18.919 --> 0:02:19.480 isn't that weird? 0:02:20.400 --> 0:02:20.600 Yeah? 0:02:20.800 --> 0:02:24.959 I found like this this online like pilates class, and 0:02:25.080 --> 0:02:27.359 I'm like loving it and I like look forward to 0:02:27.480 --> 0:02:30.480 doing it every day. So I feel like there are 0:02:30.520 --> 0:02:32.480 people that are like getting into wellness, and then there 0:02:32.520 --> 0:02:34.679 are people that are like hating on that. Like I 0:02:34.840 --> 0:02:36.440 just listened to a podcast, but they were just like 0:02:36.520 --> 0:02:38.679 hating on people like getting into wellness. I feel like 0:02:38.800 --> 0:02:42.080 that's what you should be doing to like keep yourself 0:02:42.240 --> 0:02:43.079 from going crazy. 0:02:43.200 --> 0:02:44.919 Yeah, and let's be honest. I mean, if you have 0:02:45.080 --> 0:02:47.800 the time to watch a couple of Netflix shows a night, 0:02:47.880 --> 0:02:50.079 I mean you should have the time to you know, 0:02:50.280 --> 0:02:52.840 do some sort of exercise. That's and I'm not preaching, 0:02:52.919 --> 0:02:55.560 I'm saying that's my personal belief. Like if I'm gonna 0:02:55.560 --> 0:02:58.280 sit there like last night, you know, we had dinner, 0:02:58.360 --> 0:03:00.639 we got CBK, and it's like if I can sit 0:03:00.720 --> 0:03:04.000 there and spend an hour watching Jerry Seinfeld on Netflix, 0:03:04.080 --> 0:03:06.079 like why can't I spend half an hour doing a 0:03:06.120 --> 0:03:08.200 bike ride you know before that? And That's what I did, 0:03:08.280 --> 0:03:11.119 and that's kind of been my mantra every day. So yeah, 0:03:11.160 --> 0:03:13.000 my wife and I both feel like we're in better shape. 0:03:13.040 --> 0:03:16.919 So anyway, it's great. Let's start with the first story 0:03:17.080 --> 0:03:21.799 of the week, which is Microsoft. They announced several products. 0:03:21.800 --> 0:03:24.400 There's been a bunch of tech products throughout this whole situation, 0:03:24.480 --> 0:03:27.519 which I find really fascinating because not necessarily the best 0:03:27.600 --> 0:03:30.480 time to be spending money, because who knows, you know, 0:03:30.560 --> 0:03:33.200 with all the job uncertainty. But at the same time, 0:03:33.240 --> 0:03:35.360 a lot of these things were planned before COVID, and 0:03:35.560 --> 0:03:38.120 it kind of the show goes on. And so one 0:03:38.160 --> 0:03:40.600 example that is a bunch of new products from Microsoft, 0:03:40.680 --> 0:03:43.840 including the Surface Go Too, the Surface Book three, the 0:03:43.920 --> 0:03:47.000 Surface Headphones two, and Surface Earbuds. I'm not going to 0:03:47.040 --> 0:03:49.200 go into detail on all of these things except for 0:03:49.280 --> 0:03:53.440 the Surface Go Too because that's actually particularly interesting at 0:03:53.480 --> 0:03:57.560 this point because of work at home and the Surface Megan, 0:03:57.600 --> 0:03:59.240 when I tell you, when I first did a story 0:03:59.280 --> 0:04:01.840 on the Surface that came ATLA number one, we had 0:04:02.040 --> 0:04:04.120 the guy in charge of the whole program, Panos Pene, 0:04:04.240 --> 0:04:06.440 come into KTLA, which, by the way, he would never 0:04:06.680 --> 0:04:08.840 even give me an interview at this point, right but 0:04:09.000 --> 0:04:11.200 back then he was just starting and he you know, 0:04:11.280 --> 0:04:14.200 he came in and you know, it was amazing and uh, 0:04:14.400 --> 0:04:18.560 really nice guy. And anyway, so people didn't understand how 0:04:18.600 --> 0:04:21.120 a computer could run Window, or how a tablet could 0:04:21.160 --> 0:04:25.000 run Windows and also be a laptop and a tablet 0:04:25.080 --> 0:04:27.120 and have a case. It was a whole big thing. Anyway, 0:04:27.520 --> 0:04:30.240 Surface has been very popular for Microsoft, and now the 0:04:30.279 --> 0:04:32.440 Surface go To is kind of their entry level model, 0:04:32.960 --> 0:04:36.280 and it's three hundred ninety nine dollars and it has 0:04:36.360 --> 0:04:38.960 a larger screen this time, so ten point five inch screen, 0:04:39.279 --> 0:04:42.520 better battery life, better microphones, so if you're trying to 0:04:42.600 --> 0:04:44.640 use this for Skype and all that stuff, and a 0:04:44.720 --> 0:04:48.680 front facing five megapixel camera with a sharp video even 0:04:48.720 --> 0:04:51.400 in low light. Now, the one thing I have to 0:04:51.480 --> 0:04:56.359 take issue with Microsoft with these Surface devices, they always 0:04:56.440 --> 0:04:59.880 show them in the commercial fully loaded, right, I'm talking 0:05:00.120 --> 0:05:03.760 the cover with the keyboard and the pen. Now, in reality, 0:05:03.839 --> 0:05:06.680 that three ninety nine price does not include those two things. 0:05:07.400 --> 0:05:10.359 So you're talking three ninety nine for just the tablet. 0:05:10.960 --> 0:05:13.000 Then the cover is an extra ninety nine dollars, and 0:05:13.080 --> 0:05:15.320 then the pen. I'm not really sure how much that costs, 0:05:15.320 --> 0:05:17.320 but I'm guessing it's another ninety nine to one fifty, 0:05:17.839 --> 0:05:21.840 So realistically you're talking still four hundred five hundred, about 0:05:21.880 --> 0:05:23.760 six hundred dollars if you want it the way they 0:05:23.880 --> 0:05:27.320 portray it in the commercial. Now if I said, you know, 0:05:27.480 --> 0:05:29.600 and the good news is this thing runs Windows, so 0:05:29.680 --> 0:05:31.640 you can run like everything you need on here, and 0:05:31.720 --> 0:05:35.000 that's what I really like about it. Second thing I 0:05:35.080 --> 0:05:38.320 want to tell you about is the surface earbuds. I 0:05:38.520 --> 0:05:40.320 tried these on. Remember I went to that event in 0:05:40.360 --> 0:05:42.480 New York City, the Microsoft event. I went by myself 0:05:42.960 --> 0:05:44.960 and I shot it. So I did try on these 0:05:45.000 --> 0:05:46.919 surface earbuds, and I will tell you they were one 0:05:46.960 --> 0:05:49.680 of my favorite earbuds I tried on this year. So 0:05:50.240 --> 0:05:51.840 I know they look weird. They're the ones that look 0:05:51.920 --> 0:05:53.760 kind of like the Frankenstein like they have that big 0:05:53.920 --> 0:05:55.640 kind of flat circle. 0:05:55.400 --> 0:05:56.400 They like stick out. 0:05:56.680 --> 0:05:58.919 They didn't really stick out. They actually were very flush 0:05:58.960 --> 0:06:01.480 with the ear, but they were just big and like frankensteinish, 0:06:01.600 --> 0:06:05.360 you know. But they were very comfortable, and so I 0:06:05.520 --> 0:06:07.680 can I have not tried these. I apparently was not 0:06:07.760 --> 0:06:09.520 on the list with Microsoft to get a pair of 0:06:09.800 --> 0:06:10.479 review units. 0:06:10.880 --> 0:06:12.039 But they kind of look weird. 0:06:12.279 --> 0:06:16.000 They look weird, but they felt really comfortable. So I 0:06:16.160 --> 0:06:19.000 have no problem recommending that you at least check these out. 0:06:19.520 --> 0:06:25.120 They're mostly integrated with Spotify Android phones Outlook and Microsoft 0:06:25.160 --> 0:06:28.280 three sixty five. So if you're full Microsoft, these are 0:06:28.320 --> 0:06:30.040 something that you definitely want to check out. But I 0:06:30.080 --> 0:06:33.160 will say they were very comfortable. Two hundred dollars by 0:06:33.160 --> 0:06:33.400 the way. 0:06:34.880 --> 0:06:38.960 The buds, yeah, they kind of look like those ear rings. 0:06:39.080 --> 0:06:41.680 Yes, those big what are they called when. 0:06:41.560 --> 0:06:43.320 You stick the low bearring? 0:06:43.520 --> 0:06:46.120 Yeah, my brother in law has those. He looks like 0:06:46.240 --> 0:06:48.800 such a mean dude. You know, he's got tattoos everywhere. 0:06:49.240 --> 0:06:53.040 He's got the low bearrings. I mean it's just totally 0:06:53.120 --> 0:06:56.880 tatted up. And he is nicer than me. That's how 0:06:56.920 --> 0:07:00.440 crazy it is said. Looks can be very deceee. Folks, 0:07:00.520 --> 0:07:03.159 do not judge a book by its cover. That's for sure. 0:07:03.800 --> 0:07:04.360 This is true. 0:07:04.440 --> 0:07:09.840 Okay, that is your signal, Megan. 0:07:10.600 --> 0:07:16.840 Okay, so first question, Hi Rich, longtime, second time, curious 0:07:16.880 --> 0:07:21.800 about your thoughts and reviews of Simple Safe versus Ring 0:07:21.920 --> 0:07:22.800 home Security. 0:07:23.120 --> 0:07:24.720 Thanks best, Ded. 0:07:25.120 --> 0:07:27.640 So, now do you know that reference? He said longtime? 0:07:27.760 --> 0:07:29.560 Second time? Do you know that what that means? 0:07:29.760 --> 0:07:31.160 Has he asked you a question before? 0:07:31.320 --> 0:07:33.400 Okay? So that's yeah, the second time. I guess, Yeah, 0:07:33.400 --> 0:07:35.200 he's asked me a question before. Long time. It's like 0:07:35.240 --> 0:07:37.760 an old radio thing when people would call in radio shows. 0:07:38.000 --> 0:07:41.040 They would be like longtime listener, first time guest or whatever. 0:07:41.200 --> 0:07:45.600 First time caller, Oh, okay, okay, interesting, ask your mom. 0:07:45.720 --> 0:07:47.240 I know your mom listens to a lot of radio. 0:07:47.280 --> 0:07:50.480 Ask her about that longtime listener, first time caller, and 0:07:50.560 --> 0:07:52.040 they're like, well, good to have you on the show. 0:07:52.440 --> 0:07:54.480 So it's an old radio thing anyway. So he is 0:07:54.560 --> 0:07:58.080 asking about my thoughts reviews of Simply Safe versus Ring 0:07:58.200 --> 0:08:02.000 Home Security, So soll I, it's funny because I love 0:08:02.080 --> 0:08:04.760 Simply Safe and I've been a big fan of them 0:08:04.800 --> 0:08:06.760 since they started. We did a big video with them 0:08:06.800 --> 0:08:10.560 at CS and I've used their system and I will 0:08:10.600 --> 0:08:12.480 tell you I think it's very good. But here's what 0:08:12.600 --> 0:08:14.440 I think the problem with Simply Safe and why they're 0:08:14.480 --> 0:08:18.040 in kind of a precarious position at this point. So 0:08:18.200 --> 0:08:20.920 Simply Safe is a very simple system. You install it yourself. 0:08:21.000 --> 0:08:23.520 It's it's diy home security. They have everything you need. 0:08:23.600 --> 0:08:25.360 You put the little sensors on your windows, you put 0:08:25.400 --> 0:08:28.160 them on your doors. You got a base station, they 0:08:28.240 --> 0:08:31.680 have cameras. They all have everything you need. But the 0:08:31.800 --> 0:08:34.199 difference between Simply Safe and something like Ring and some 0:08:34.240 --> 0:08:36.439 of the other competitors at this point is that the 0:08:36.520 --> 0:08:39.240 other competitors are more integrated with sort of the smart 0:08:39.280 --> 0:08:42.720 home devices, and Ring has got the backing of Amazon, 0:08:42.800 --> 0:08:44.600 so it works with all the Alexis stuff. I mean 0:08:44.640 --> 0:08:48.280 it really, it's everything is becoming very siloed in the 0:08:48.400 --> 0:08:51.840 tech world. So Ring. I was actually thinking of switching 0:08:51.920 --> 0:08:54.960 over to Ring because I was thinking, well, right now, 0:08:55.000 --> 0:08:56.600 I've got a mix of a whole bunch of different 0:08:56.600 --> 0:08:58.839 stuff in my house. And over the years, you know, 0:08:58.960 --> 0:09:01.439 as I tried stuff and I use stuff, and I 0:09:01.640 --> 0:09:04.160 liked it, and I would get it, and so now 0:09:04.160 --> 0:09:07.760 I've like Nest, I've got some Ring stuff, I've got 0:09:07.800 --> 0:09:10.599 some simply safe stuff. So it's all mixed up, and 0:09:10.720 --> 0:09:13.000 I kind of thought about it. It's almost better to 0:09:13.080 --> 0:09:14.920 be on one page. And I was looking at Ring 0:09:15.040 --> 0:09:18.000 because the thing about Ring that they're doing right now 0:09:18.880 --> 0:09:23.360 is they are doing their home monitoring for very cheap 0:09:24.000 --> 0:09:28.480 and so it's ten dollars a month, which is really cheap. 0:09:28.640 --> 0:09:29.160 Oh wow. 0:09:29.320 --> 0:09:32.240 Now most of the other ones cost about anywhere from 0:09:32.320 --> 0:09:35.400 fifteen to twenty five. If you do something like ADT, 0:09:35.559 --> 0:09:38.439 you're talking fifty bucks a month. So this is the 0:09:38.520 --> 0:09:41.199 reason why Ring is very appealing. And I was in 0:09:42.000 --> 0:09:44.320 Costco the other day and they had a three pack 0:09:44.400 --> 0:09:49.559 of ring cameras for two hundred and fifty bucks, so 0:09:49.720 --> 0:09:53.760 again very inexpensive. So my thought, Dave is I would 0:09:53.840 --> 0:09:56.360 see do you do you want the integration with other 0:09:56.440 --> 0:09:59.080 products or you're just looking at price. I would price 0:09:59.120 --> 0:10:02.240 out both systems, see how much they cost, and then 0:10:02.240 --> 0:10:05.400 I would price out maybe five years of service or 0:10:05.480 --> 0:10:07.760 three years of service, and see what comes out to 0:10:07.840 --> 0:10:10.760 be a better deal, because simply safe might be cheaper, 0:10:11.320 --> 0:10:13.280 or might be more expensive in the long run, or 0:10:13.559 --> 0:10:15.120 you know, one of them might be more expensive in 0:10:15.160 --> 0:10:16.920 the long run than the other. But I think that 0:10:17.040 --> 0:10:19.000 ten dollars a month for a ring right now is 0:10:19.200 --> 0:10:21.280 you can't beat it. But you might have to pay 0:10:21.360 --> 0:10:23.839 more upfront for the different products. I'm not sure, but 0:10:23.960 --> 0:10:25.920 that's the way I would look at those two products 0:10:26.000 --> 0:10:28.880 to compare them. So hopefully that helps. But if you 0:10:28.960 --> 0:10:30.559 are looking at one of these systems, even if you 0:10:30.640 --> 0:10:34.280 have just a simple like apartment setup or you know anything, 0:10:34.440 --> 0:10:37.599 you're renting a house, a room in an airbnb, you 0:10:37.679 --> 0:10:40.720 know you can get one of these simple security systems 0:10:40.760 --> 0:10:42.880 that kind of alerts you if someone opens your door. 0:10:43.200 --> 0:10:45.319 You know, you don't have to go totally elaborate, and 0:10:45.360 --> 0:10:46.599 I kind of like that because it gives you some 0:10:46.679 --> 0:10:50.479 peace of mind, right, all right, So we did Microsoft, 0:10:50.679 --> 0:10:54.920 let's talk about Apple. This week, they updated the thirteen 0:10:54.960 --> 0:10:58.040 inch MacBook Pro. And there's not too much to talk 0:10:58.080 --> 0:11:00.280 about with this MacBook Pro. It's just the fact that 0:11:00.360 --> 0:11:02.960 they updated the keyboard. You know, they did the basic updates, 0:11:03.200 --> 0:11:05.520 but the biggest one is really the keyboard. They gave 0:11:05.559 --> 0:11:08.520 it the new Magic keyboard, which I will tell you 0:11:08.760 --> 0:11:12.440 in personal experience, is leaps and bounds ahead of their 0:11:12.520 --> 0:11:15.079 last keyboard. And I had the last keyboard on my 0:11:15.200 --> 0:11:19.320 MacBook Pro thirteen inch, which was absolutely terrible. I had 0:11:19.400 --> 0:11:21.280 that for three years. My son is now using it. 0:11:22.280 --> 0:11:25.160 It was really bad. It felt like you were typing 0:11:25.400 --> 0:11:28.120 on a piece of paper because the keys just didn't 0:11:28.160 --> 0:11:30.720 push down very much. And there's a lot of mistakes 0:11:30.760 --> 0:11:34.240 as well with those keys. And the new keyboard I 0:11:34.320 --> 0:11:36.240 now have of my sixteen inch MacBook Pro, which is 0:11:36.320 --> 0:11:39.040 kind of the primary reason I bought it, it's just 0:11:39.320 --> 0:11:42.679 way way better. And so I do recommend if you're 0:11:42.720 --> 0:11:44.439 looking at these things and you were kind of burned 0:11:44.440 --> 0:11:47.240 in the past, the keyboard is way better and that's 0:11:47.320 --> 0:11:49.200 kind of it. I mean there's other things that are 0:11:49.679 --> 0:11:51.800 that are new on this which you know. Double the 0:11:51.920 --> 0:11:55.160 storage two fifty six gigabytes is now the base storage. 0:11:55.800 --> 0:11:58.679 It offers up to four terabytes. And my advice on 0:11:58.800 --> 0:12:01.920 buying a laptop, oh get the most storage you can 0:12:02.000 --> 0:12:04.679 afford and the most memory. And I will tell you 0:12:04.800 --> 0:12:08.760 from personal experience, I was very what's the word impatient 0:12:09.040 --> 0:12:11.559 when I bought my laptop, and so I couldn't wait 0:12:11.640 --> 0:12:14.800 for it to be shipped because if you want certain storage, 0:12:15.160 --> 0:12:18.960 remember this, remember this. Yeah, And so I ended up 0:12:19.000 --> 0:12:21.679 walking into the store and buying the off the shelf version, 0:12:21.720 --> 0:12:25.880 which was a sixteen gigabytes of RAM and one terabyte 0:12:25.920 --> 0:12:29.360 of storage. And I wish I had thirty two gigabytes 0:12:29.480 --> 0:12:32.559 of RAM and two terabytes of storage, which would have 0:12:32.640 --> 0:12:34.439 cost me a little bit more, but I would have 0:12:34.520 --> 0:12:37.599 been much happier. And so don't be impatient. You know, 0:12:37.679 --> 0:12:39.240 if it takes a little bit to get your computer 0:12:39.280 --> 0:12:41.199 because you want it in the configuration you want, just 0:12:41.600 --> 0:12:43.560 just wait. Don't be a rich don't be a rich 0:12:43.640 --> 0:12:48.439 on tech impatient. The laptop starts at thirteen hundred dollars 0:12:48.559 --> 0:12:51.600 for the everyday person, twelve hundred dollars if you are 0:12:51.640 --> 0:12:54.880 an educator, which is a pretty decent price. And my 0:12:55.000 --> 0:12:57.959 other advice with these laptops everyone the most emails I 0:12:58.000 --> 0:13:00.920 get Megan are I want a cheap laptop. But the 0:13:01.000 --> 0:13:03.360 problem with cheap laptops is, yes, you're gonna spend two 0:13:03.400 --> 0:13:05.480 hundred three hundred bucks on a Chromebook, but you're then 0:13:05.559 --> 0:13:07.760 gonna want a new laptop in a couple of years. 0:13:08.160 --> 0:13:11.319 These Apple laptops will last you. My sister is on 0:13:11.679 --> 0:13:15.040 hers is ten years old and it's still working. Now, wow, 0:13:15.080 --> 0:13:16.640 it's getting up there, and she says she kind of 0:13:16.640 --> 0:13:18.040 wants a new one, but ten years. 0:13:19.000 --> 0:13:20.839 So yeah, they last a very long time. 0:13:20.960 --> 0:13:22.959 They last a very long time. And the best part 0:13:23.080 --> 0:13:24.839 is even if you use it, like for me, my 0:13:25.240 --> 0:13:28.080 life cycle is about three years. After those three years, 0:13:28.200 --> 0:13:30.360 I give it to one of my family members and 0:13:30.559 --> 0:13:34.280 so they get the benefit of using it as well. 0:13:34.600 --> 0:13:37.360 So my dad got my last Apple laptop, my little 0:13:37.520 --> 0:13:40.000 my son got my other one. So that's you know, 0:13:40.080 --> 0:13:41.040 that's another side thing. 0:13:41.120 --> 0:13:43.400 You can be general do you normally say for MacBooks 0:13:43.440 --> 0:13:45.839 though you say not to do the just like the 0:13:46.000 --> 0:13:49.160 first tier, you go like up a tier, Yes, that's. 0:13:49.160 --> 0:13:52.200 That's kind of Apple's pricing game. So whenever you see 0:13:52.240 --> 0:13:56.640 that first like you know, initial price hundred, it's usually 0:13:57.200 --> 0:13:58.959 if you go with the next tier, you're gonna get 0:13:58.960 --> 0:14:00.800 a lot more for your money. That's kind of Apple's 0:14:00.840 --> 0:14:03.640 game with everything they sell, whether it's the iPad, whether 0:14:03.720 --> 0:14:06.120 it's the iPhone. When you just bump up to that 0:14:06.200 --> 0:14:09.400 next level for a little bit more, you get more, 0:14:09.640 --> 0:14:11.840 a lot more when it comes to storage, process or whatever. 0:14:12.000 --> 0:14:13.600 And I always tell people because they always say, well, 0:14:13.640 --> 0:14:15.200 it's you know, you think about it. The next bump 0:14:15.320 --> 0:14:17.600 up on this laptop, I don't know, maybe it's fifteen hundred. 0:14:17.760 --> 0:14:19.520 They're like, well, that's fifteen hundred bucks. I'm like, well, 0:14:19.560 --> 0:14:21.840 you've already gone to thirteen hundred, so really it's only 0:14:21.880 --> 0:14:24.680 an extra two hundred. You're not not spending the thirteen hundred. 0:14:25.280 --> 0:14:26.520 So good question, Megan. 0:14:27.880 --> 0:14:33.200 Okay, so this next question comes from Kenji. Good afternoon, sir. 0:14:33.760 --> 0:14:36.200 I hope all has been well with you. You're definitely 0:14:36.280 --> 0:14:39.760 the best and keeping up to date with technology. I 0:14:39.800 --> 0:14:42.640 would like to ask if you could recommend the best 0:14:42.680 --> 0:14:45.600 way to remove as much of my personal information from 0:14:45.680 --> 0:14:50.000 the web as possible. I've finally contacted White Pages directly 0:14:50.200 --> 0:14:53.720 and that response is pending. Is there a re reputable 0:14:53.960 --> 0:14:57.880 company that can assist with this reasonable pricing that you 0:14:58.000 --> 0:14:58.520 are aware of? 0:14:59.360 --> 0:14:59.880 So thank you. 0:15:00.520 --> 0:15:02.440 This is a good question and something that I actually 0:15:02.520 --> 0:15:05.360 did myself recently. And if you've ever been on one 0:15:05.400 --> 0:15:07.240 of these sites, there's a bunch of them, like My 0:15:07.480 --> 0:15:10.760 Life White Pages, they have a whole bunch. Basically all 0:15:10.800 --> 0:15:13.800 of your personal information is on these sites and you're like, 0:15:13.880 --> 0:15:16.040 how is this legal? How are they able to have this? Well, 0:15:16.040 --> 0:15:18.360 it's all public records, especially when you buy a house 0:15:19.160 --> 0:15:22.000 or you know anything, anything you do, it creates a 0:15:22.040 --> 0:15:25.600 public record that's in the public. So these companies just 0:15:25.720 --> 0:15:29.000 scour the public databases and they just organize it in 0:15:29.040 --> 0:15:32.640 a way that's much easier to access than say going 0:15:32.720 --> 0:15:35.480 to the library and looking up the database for the 0:15:35.560 --> 0:15:37.480 DMV or whatever. You know, like you worked on the 0:15:37.520 --> 0:15:39.800 desk at KTLA, so you know what was the thing 0:15:39.840 --> 0:15:43.360 they had lexis Nexus. Yes, like you were looking up 0:15:43.520 --> 0:15:45.840 x's all the time, right time. 0:15:47.040 --> 0:15:51.080 No, you get so like there's a charge when you search. 0:15:51.960 --> 0:15:53.760 You know, it's not free to like look up an 0:15:54.000 --> 0:15:56.680 X like KTLA would get like an eighty dollars charge. 0:15:56.520 --> 0:15:58.320 Right every time you get in trouble. 0:15:58.240 --> 0:16:01.000 Every time, Oh my gosh. But at least you knew 0:16:01.080 --> 0:16:03.160 what they were doing, where they were and you could 0:16:03.200 --> 0:16:04.240 just kind of keep an eye on them. 0:16:04.720 --> 0:16:07.400 But no, it doesn't track them. It just says where 0:16:07.440 --> 0:16:08.040 they live. 0:16:08.360 --> 0:16:10.040 And what would you need for them, like a license 0:16:10.080 --> 0:16:12.400 plate kind of thing. I'm just kidding. 0:16:12.400 --> 0:16:14.880 I mean, I know, you know for like, oh yeah, 0:16:14.960 --> 0:16:15.280 you would. 0:16:15.400 --> 0:16:17.640 You would just do a first and last name and 0:16:17.800 --> 0:16:21.920 maybe or like no round their birthday or how they are, 0:16:22.400 --> 0:16:25.560 and then you like get a list of people that 0:16:25.640 --> 0:16:28.760 I could be and then you pick who it looks like. Okay, 0:16:28.800 --> 0:16:29.920 well that's difficult for. 0:16:30.040 --> 0:16:32.960 Yeah, that's almost exactly how these websites work. And they 0:16:33.120 --> 0:16:35.760 just do the same thing except find all the personal 0:16:35.800 --> 0:16:37.760 information that's available online. So anyway, I'll give you some 0:16:37.840 --> 0:16:41.040 of the names. Spokio my life. If you go down 0:16:41.080 --> 0:16:43.680 a rabbit hole of looking up yourself on these sites, 0:16:43.800 --> 0:16:48.360 it's very scary. Just fyi, Spochio my life, Ridaris White 0:16:48.400 --> 0:16:52.840 pages in tell Us and been verified. Now, what our 0:16:53.640 --> 0:16:57.440 listener is asking, Kenji, is asking how he can get 0:16:57.520 --> 0:17:00.800 rid of these. So there's a website called Join delete 0:17:00.880 --> 0:17:03.320 me dot com and they will for I think it 0:17:03.400 --> 0:17:05.840 was like twenty bucks a month take care of all 0:17:05.840 --> 0:17:08.440 of this and get you off all these sites. But 0:17:08.640 --> 0:17:10.720 as far as a month, well yeah, I mean, if 0:17:10.760 --> 0:17:12.560 you I think that's how much it is, let me 0:17:12.720 --> 0:17:16.119 let me see how much it is, you know, for 0:17:16.240 --> 0:17:17.840 some people, and maybe you don't need it, you know, 0:17:18.119 --> 0:17:20.760 every month, but let's see how much it is it is. 0:17:22.400 --> 0:17:26.320 Join delete me. It's uh oh sorry, ten dollars a 0:17:26.440 --> 0:17:30.440 month for one person for a year, so one hundred 0:17:30.440 --> 0:17:32.400 and twenty nine dollars for the year. But it will 0:17:32.400 --> 0:17:34.840 remove you from all the major data broker websites for 0:17:34.920 --> 0:17:36.719 one year, so I mean that's not too bad. Ten 0:17:36.760 --> 0:17:38.200 seventy five a month, so you have to pay for 0:17:38.240 --> 0:17:41.000 the year. I'm guessing yeah, build annually for one thirty 0:17:41.359 --> 0:17:42.879 but that's not you know, if you want to protect 0:17:42.920 --> 0:17:45.280 your privacy, that's not that bad. But what I like 0:17:45.359 --> 0:17:47.480 about this site and why I kind of trust them, 0:17:47.880 --> 0:17:50.639 is because they have a post of how to do 0:17:50.760 --> 0:17:53.359 it on your own, and they give you the manual, 0:17:53.480 --> 0:17:57.080 step by step instructions for all of these different websites. 0:17:57.400 --> 0:17:59.400 And so that's what I did personally. I just went 0:17:59.480 --> 0:18:03.080 through and most of the time. It requires verifying yourself 0:18:03.119 --> 0:18:05.560 on the website, signing up for the website, sending them 0:18:05.600 --> 0:18:09.400 an email, opting out, doing a confirmation. It's a whole 0:18:09.440 --> 0:18:11.320 big process. They basically don't want you to do this, 0:18:11.720 --> 0:18:13.920 but it did work, and I can tell you from 0:18:13.920 --> 0:18:15.920 my experience at a lot of these sites. I was 0:18:15.960 --> 0:18:17.960 able to get some my information off of there, and 0:18:18.040 --> 0:18:20.000 a lot of it is confusing because it's not a 0:18:20.080 --> 0:18:23.920 lot of it's not right. They had me as way 0:18:24.000 --> 0:18:29.680 older than I really am, but yeah, exactly so, and 0:18:29.720 --> 0:18:31.560 they didn't have the best profile pictures of me, so 0:18:31.600 --> 0:18:34.119 I just wanted all of it gone. So you're like, nope, 0:18:34.520 --> 0:18:37.080 so join delete me dot com. Check it out, and 0:18:37.160 --> 0:18:39.239 I think that you will find exactly what you need 0:18:39.400 --> 0:18:42.560 to get yourself off of many of these websites. Good question. 0:18:42.760 --> 0:18:46.159 And there's another. We did a story about this a 0:18:46.240 --> 0:18:48.240