Speaker 1: Flame were Flame.
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Speaker 4: Baby, you better.
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Speaker 2: to politics.
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Speaker 3: You know she raised shot towns on speaking to the
Speaker 3: grown a second.
Speaker 1: We're gonna laugh, cut him and.
Speaker 3: Kicking, and at the end we leave it with just
Speaker 3: a lifted spirits. Say you want to revisit so your
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Speaker 1: Hey, no fish, do what you do?
Speaker 3: No do what you do?
Speaker 1: No kiss, do what I do?
Speaker 2: No this he This is comedian Flame Moro and welcome
Speaker 2: to this week's episode of Laugh and Learn. Here with
Speaker 2: my gorgeous and beautiful co hosts, the Lady I Conned Herself,
Speaker 2: the Boston Irish accent Diva, The Toots, the Bobby Cliffing. Hello, Bobby,
Speaker 2: Hi Flame, how are you. I'm pretty good and I'm
Speaker 2: fantastic produce the mister. We're glad to be here. We
Speaker 2: coming this week to give you the hours. This week's
Speaker 2: Hodgepodge and politics and life and America and all that,
Speaker 2: and of course we live in America, so there's always
Speaker 2: something new and exciting and tragic unfortunately happening. So I
Speaker 2: ain't gonna even keep up your time. We've had a
Speaker 2: great week this week. I went to see my boy
Speaker 2: Dave Chappelle Tuesday night.
Speaker 5: Was it Tuesday night or Wednesday? How was that? Oh
Speaker 5: my god?
Speaker 2: He was at deliass It was a pop up show,
Speaker 2: completely sold out. He was fantastic. The openers were some
Speaker 2: great openers Downill Rollins included and Marshall Brandon. They did
Speaker 2: a fantastic job. He's here in Ontario this week. He's
Speaker 2: on tour and I'm hoping that he asked me to
Speaker 2: do a day or two, so we'll see. But the
Speaker 2: show was fantastic. You know who was in the building,
Speaker 2: The legend himself, the living legend, mister Stevie Wonder was there.
Speaker 5: So I walked right up to him and said, hey.
Speaker 3: Stevie, you remember looking at me?
Speaker 2: And everybody around him fell out laughing when I said,
Speaker 2: that's it as a joke because we don't know that
Speaker 2: Cebe Wather is blind.
Speaker 5: So before I was like oho, funny. That was me.
Speaker 2: Oh he got a kick out of him. He thought
Speaker 2: it was great. He said, I remember your voice and
Speaker 2: I could smell your perfume. I said, oh my god,
Speaker 2: my joke always works. Uh.
Speaker 5: It was just a great show.
Speaker 2: I did Earthquakes podcast yesterday, Quake's House Monday, the show
Speaker 2: at Free Voices was fantastic.
Speaker 5: In fact, star.
Speaker 2: LGBT community community representative and activist Ts Madison, my friend
Speaker 2: came to the show. We hung out and bantered. We
Speaker 2: had a really good time. So now on to the
Speaker 2: week were we started by me, let me start with
Speaker 2: we want to let's start with the deaths. We want
Speaker 2: to acknowledge that we lost Pee Wee Hermy this week.
Speaker 5: His real name was what Ruben Paul?
Speaker 3: I believe, So isn't that terrible? I don't know.
Speaker 1: I didn't even because I called him Pee. I didn't
Speaker 1: even bother to look up his real name.
Speaker 5: I think his real name is Ruben Paul. He was
Speaker 5: what was he seventy years old?
Speaker 3: Seventy years old? He died of cancer.
Speaker 2: He was Kids loved him as Pee Wee Herming, the
Speaker 2: character Woo Woo, and cancer is so prevalent in our
Speaker 2: world right now, I don't know why so many people
Speaker 2: seem to be catching cancer at an alarming rate. I
Speaker 2: don't know if it's the food or I don't know
Speaker 2: what it is. Nobody knows, but all we can do
Speaker 2: is say prayers to him. Who are somebody else pass
Speaker 2: by behind?
Speaker 1: And just to just finish that, it's Paul Rubins, So
Speaker 1: you had it, you just had it backwards. So he
Speaker 1: was Paul Rubins. And Angus Cloud that the actor from Euphoria.
Speaker 2: He's twenty five, twenty five years old.
Speaker 5: Was it an O D Bobby.
Speaker 3: They don't know yet there, They still haven't come out.
Speaker 1: The mother suspected it because he had some mental health struggles,
Speaker 1: which is I have him on my own family. He
Speaker 1: struggled with depression, and he was super close to his dad,
Speaker 1: who they just buried last week. So it really makes
Speaker 1: me feel badly for his mom. And he has twin sisters,
Speaker 1: and you know they're still grieving the dad, or they
Speaker 1: really probably even haven't begun to grieve the dad. And
Speaker 1: now this on top of it. I kind of imagine
Speaker 1: losing a child and your life partner all within a
Speaker 1: week of each.
Speaker 2: Other, and a lot of times the broken heart just
Speaker 2: opens up a plethora of hurt and anguish and a
Speaker 2: lot of people don't recover from that. So yeah, prays
Speaker 2: to him and his family and he That was his
Speaker 2: first acting gig on Euphoria. He was doing a great
Speaker 2: job and he was discovered walking down the street by
Speaker 2: a producer and look what happened.
Speaker 3: That's how he discovered.
Speaker 5: Yes, he was just discovered walking down the street.
Speaker 2: They gave him an opportunity and Euphoria was his very
Speaker 2: first acting gig that he was absolutely brilliant in. And Chad,
Speaker 2: that's why I say tomorrow is now promising. You got
Speaker 2: to live each day, live each day, and Livy's day.
Speaker 5: Okay, on from death.
Speaker 1: I got to get some sneakers, get some sneakers and
Speaker 1: start being a street walker. If I could get discovered
Speaker 1: that way.
Speaker 5: You're gonna outrun death.
Speaker 1: Bobby, maybe maybe, and maybe they'll notice me.
Speaker 3: Will them certainly notice the size of me? You never know.
Speaker 1: That could be a chubby chasing talent manager out there.
Speaker 1: We can go to oh something, did you buy your
Speaker 1: mega millions? Because it's up to one point two five?
Speaker 2: Do you know that I get so many megamaniones it
Speaker 2: don't make decense I think I got about sixty dollars worth.
Speaker 3: I spent too, and that's how it takes to win.
Speaker 5: Honestly, is that too?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 1: So I got my fingers and my toes and everything
Speaker 1: else that I can cross, cross my legs, but they're
Speaker 1: two fats, so they kind of slide off each other.
Speaker 2: I only want to tell you all. I only want
Speaker 2: to tell you all the twos that I can cross.
Speaker 2: But anyway, were hoping to read.
Speaker 5: Listen.
Speaker 2: Speaking of twos, I want to say that they get
Speaker 2: the big scandal out right now.
Speaker 5: So Lizzo recording.
Speaker 2: Artist Lizzo Grammy Award winning Lizzo is under scrutiny and
Speaker 2: fired from some of her former dancers about hostile working conditions,
Speaker 2: about body shaming, about so many different charges. Some of
Speaker 2: them almost sound preponderous, but you know what, they are,
Speaker 2: two sads to every story. I think the most disturbing
Speaker 2: part for me was that there was a director that
Speaker 2: was going to do her autobiography or her bible who
Speaker 2: poured out because she said that she was not comfortable
Speaker 2: with some of the work situation and some of the
Speaker 2: rudeness supposedly from Lizzo. We are not bashing Lizzo here
Speaker 2: at iHeart or I mean, because we don't know the story.
Speaker 2: So we're going to allow this story to unfold as
Speaker 2: it does, and the more we know, the more we
Speaker 2: can bring you. But we're not passing judgment. We're not
Speaker 2: taking sides, we're not picking and choosing. We will sit
Speaker 2: back and see, because every time we do that pick
Speaker 2: and choose, do you know what happens? We picked the
Speaker 2: wrong person. So right now we just gonna sit back
Speaker 2: and see what color the wall gonna be.
Speaker 3: Bobby Clifford, No, I agree, I can. The only thing
Speaker 3: I can say is I'm disappointed, and for both sides.
Speaker 1: I'm disappointed if this is true about Lizzo, because I
Speaker 1: love Wizzo.
Speaker 3: I love her music.
Speaker 1: She always seemed like she was for positivity, and if
Speaker 1: it's not true, I'm disappointed, you know, for her in
Speaker 1: a more compassionate way, because this stuff follows you everywhere,
Speaker 1: you know, and they'll be saying she's a difficult one,
Speaker 1: even if she's not. So it's a really unfortunate in
Speaker 1: its story.
Speaker 4: It's too bad. I was shocked, and you know it's
Speaker 4: too bad. Oh well, I said before about fame. I've
Speaker 4: spoken about this publicly.
Speaker 2: It is such a double sided sword, and sometimes it
Speaker 2: looks like they build you up to destroy you. Yeah,
Speaker 2: and that's how it looks on the outside looking in.
Speaker 2: So we're gonna send prayers to Lizzo and all the
Speaker 2: parties involved. We don't know that, we're not taking sides.
Speaker 2: We don't know if it's up or down, good or bad.
Speaker 2: What we're going to do is just sit here and
Speaker 2: we're just gonna let you know as we find out
Speaker 2: what else is happening in the news.
Speaker 3: Bobby Cliffords, something that I thought was interesting.
Speaker 1: I don't know if you're sorry, This is really just
Speaker 1: a quick in form was a Gilgo Beach update. You know,
Speaker 1: they have like twenty five hundred pieces of information they've
Speaker 1: already collected. But the family got attorneys. They were very
Speaker 1: upset with the condition that the authorities left their house.
Speaker 1: They felt that they tore things apart for no reason.
Speaker 1: The mom, I guess is she does seedlings at the
Speaker 1: back and they tore up her all her garden. I
Speaker 1: will say with that, I thought it was a little
Speaker 1: like want wha I mean, Unfortunately, you married somebody that
Speaker 1: is a serial killer, supposedly, and the first place.
Speaker 3: I'd be going a look would be the garden, right
Speaker 3: digging stuff up.
Speaker 1: But I thought it was kind of interesting because they've
Speaker 1: been on They've been a lot of the shows this week,
Speaker 1: a lot of the political shows, so I thought, wow,
Speaker 1: you know, how are those attorneys getting paid? But something
Speaker 1: that was sort of interesting, something else that I don't
Speaker 1: have a lot of information about, maybe you might have
Speaker 1: a little bit more is a gentleman named O'shay Sibley
Speaker 1: was yes in Brooklyn with his friends at a gas station, voguing,
Speaker 1: just cutting up and talking and somebody, I guess went
Speaker 1: by a group of people and threw out some.
Speaker 3: Racial slurs and or you know, gay.
Speaker 1: Slurs, and he stuck up for himself and his friends
Speaker 1: and they stabbed them to Yeah.
Speaker 2: I thought that was one of the most tragic stories
Speaker 2: I have. Somebody living their life, enjoying themselves just at
Speaker 2: a public place. But sometimes and I'm not giving a
Speaker 2: past at all to anyone, especially to the murderers, but
Speaker 2: you have to be a little more aware of your
Speaker 2: surroundings because of the climate that the world is in
Speaker 2: right now. I'm not saying that we should have to
Speaker 2: live in fear or we should have to downplay who
Speaker 2: we are as gay people, LGBT, what have you. But
Speaker 2: sometimes and I'm not following that young man at all.
Speaker 2: May he rest in eternal peace. But we got to
Speaker 2: keep our head around to see who's around watching us,
Speaker 2: because everybody is not as happy or as free as
Speaker 2: some of us, and you know they have an issue
Speaker 2: when they see you happy and free.
Speaker 3: And my dad is so sad.
Speaker 2: But I want to acknowledge the fact that Beyonce, who
Speaker 2: he was a fan of because he was dancing to
Speaker 2: one of her songs, apparently gave him a shout out.
Speaker 2: And I believe that she's supposed to be setting up
Speaker 2: some kind of trust fund. I think I read that
Speaker 2: somewhere for his family. So hats off to be for
Speaker 2: stepping up. And I'm telling you about we live in
Speaker 2: such a crazy climate that you never know what's going
Speaker 2: to happen. Speaking of also crazy in North Korea, Travis King,
Speaker 2: who is a black soldier who supposedly ran across the
Speaker 2: northern border and has been accosted.
Speaker 5: Nobody has heard from him. The family has hasn't.
Speaker 2: Heard anything, so we don't know whether he's dead or alive,
Speaker 2: whether he's super Chinese food we just don't know because
Speaker 2: nobody has heard anything. And I'm telling you, Bobby, the
Speaker 2: story sounds so far fetched. I don't he was like twenty.
Speaker 3: I thought maybe he was a little younger. I'm like,
Speaker 3: does he not know?
Speaker 2: I mean.
Speaker 3: He one has the right to grab him up by
Speaker 3: not saying that, but I mean we.
Speaker 2: All know if you cross the border there, they do
Speaker 2: have the right to grab you up. But Bobby, the
Speaker 2: way that sounds how far fetched to sound. I don't
Speaker 2: believe he crossed that border willingly. I'm going to say
Speaker 2: that public maybe, Yeah, it just sounds too sketchy. The story,
Speaker 2: it's got so many it's like Swiss cheese. It's full
Speaker 2: of holes. So until we find more information, But for
Speaker 2: me personally, it's just the way it's unfolding. It sounds
Speaker 2: very that don't sound right, So I don't know. We'll
Speaker 2: find out as it goes on and on and on.
Speaker 1: Well have to pray for his strength because I can't
Speaker 1: even imagine that that is one tough place.
Speaker 3: North Korea. I can't even imagine. I think of back
Speaker 3: when we were kids and we used to watch mash
Speaker 3: every week.
Speaker 1: That's how I'm like, everybody knows it's so bad. But
Speaker 1: of course his age, he wouldn't have remembered that show.
Speaker 1: They're just their maniacs up there. So God bless him
Speaker 1: and his family, who's I can't even imagine what they're
Speaker 1: going through.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 2: That, and then the mom has come up missing because
Speaker 2: the family just did an interview. I watched it on
Speaker 2: ABC World News with David mull You know, I love
Speaker 2: me some David, the biggest crush. I had the biggest
Speaker 2: crush on that white boy anyway, and he was interviewing
Speaker 2: some of the family personally, and the daughter, the sister,
Speaker 2: the guy's sister, was like, they haven't heard from the mom.
Speaker 2: The mom is going through some kind of depression or
Speaker 2: something because this is her baby, and it's just a lot.
Speaker 2: It's a lot to unpack in this story. But until
Speaker 2: we get more information, which they're willing to share with
Speaker 2: the world, because the media will share what they want
Speaker 2: and not want, so we just have to wait and
Speaker 2: see how it unfos and unpacksbyc.
Speaker 1: Well fingers Chosen Christ that Robert Bowers, the gentleman who
Speaker 1: in twenty eighteen shot up the synagogue, killing eleven people.
Speaker 1: He was sentenced to life in jail or to death.
Speaker 1: Excuse me, life in jail to death. I don't know
Speaker 1: what the messod will be. I was kind of happy
Speaker 1: to see that that was coming into a close. I
Speaker 1: don't know if that's going to bring them any type
Speaker 1: of especially these really religious people, if that will bring
Speaker 1: them any type of closure. But I'm happy to see
Speaker 1: that they finally it's finally over five years.
Speaker 3: That's a long time to have to wait for.
Speaker 5: Bobby.
Speaker 2: Here's the killer for me with those situations, five years
Speaker 2: of taxpayer money to feed him, house him, take care
Speaker 2: of him, and after he killed eleven innocent people for
Speaker 2: no reason.
Speaker 5: You know, I'm not I know in church.
Speaker 2: I know we have a judicial system. I know we
Speaker 2: have a law and order system, but it don't seem
Speaker 2: to be working. It's very privileged and they pick and
Speaker 2: choose they want to give on order to Because we
Speaker 2: haven't even gotten to the meat of the show today,
Speaker 2: which would be the third indictment for an ex president
Speaker 2: of these United States. But before I get to him,
Speaker 2: I just have to speak about that dumb heffer. Marjorie
Speaker 2: Taylor Green said that trumpets they're persecuted him, and even
Speaker 2: if he's in jail, she's still going to vote for him.
Speaker 2: When I tell you, dummies are dummies, are dummies are dummies?
Speaker 3: Woo did you see who.
Speaker 1: That whole memes she did that that President Biden actually
Speaker 1: is using it to tout his accomplishments.
Speaker 3: She's so stupid.
Speaker 1: She's saying, he's he reminds me of FDR and Johnson,
Speaker 1: and these are people that put in Medicare and Medicaid
Speaker 1: and Social Security and like all these wonderful programs, and
Speaker 1: he's trying to finish what they started.
Speaker 3: Yay like you.
Speaker 1: And she thinks that's an insult, so much so that
Speaker 1: Biden put it on his website.
Speaker 3: The whole thing a complete, complete and utter idiot.
Speaker 2: And I have said before on coffee time and laugh
Speaker 2: and learned that lost people follow people. It is is
Speaker 2: so sad. But Bobby, you know what's so preponderous about
Speaker 2: this country? Just think about my now. Midrie Taylor Green
Speaker 2: is a sitting senator that thinks like that. Think about
Speaker 2: all the people that vote for her that thinks the
Speaker 2: exact same way. Good God, we are doomed. We are
Speaker 2: doomed as a nation.
Speaker 1: And they are there, they're the ones voting for her
Speaker 1: because she's it would only be people like her, anybody
Speaker 1: that has any type of you know, rocks.
Speaker 3: Any sense.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, who would have her as the representative?
Speaker 1: I absolutely don't know.
Speaker 2: I'm frustrated with ex President Mike Pence as well, because
Speaker 2: I see that all of these rats are coming out
Speaker 2: to turn to turncoat, but they're not. Actually. Yeah, they're
Speaker 2: very sketchy on the way they teeter tater right on
Speaker 2: the border of you know, it's wrong, but I just
Speaker 2: don't want to say it's completely wrong. I want to
Speaker 2: try to sway. It's so divisive and it's so tricky
Speaker 2: because just in case he does become the president again,
Speaker 2: they're trying to make sure that they don't shoot themselves
Speaker 2: in the foot because he's going to get them if
Speaker 2: he comes. Because I believe his presidential win will be
Speaker 2: vengeance on American people. Yeah, because Bill Barr has come
Speaker 2: out and will not just throw Trump up under the bus.
Speaker 2: He has said some negative things, but it just has
Speaker 2: never been this is what has happened. You know, Rudy Giuliani,
Speaker 2: Mike Fleinn is completely quiet.
Speaker 5: You don't hear.
Speaker 3: Anything from him or about him.
Speaker 2: But he was the first person that was prosecuted under
Speaker 2: Trump's regime when they went after people, right, he was
Speaker 2: the first person that went to prison. You heard nothing
Speaker 2: about him. It is so scary. But I'm really, really
Speaker 2: h embarrassed by Mike Pence as being our vice president
Speaker 2: and him is just as a human being because this
Speaker 2: man told him to kill you and you still are
Speaker 2: groveling sucking the poop out of his But it just
Speaker 2: boggles my mind the power that they believe that Trump has.
Speaker 3: He has drunk the kool aid.
Speaker 1: He is saying things that, as you said, that are wrong,
Speaker 1: but he it's now it wasn't. It wasn't an insurrection.
Speaker 1: Penn says, now.
Speaker 3: It was a riot.
Speaker 1: Flynn's not going to say anything because Trump went on
Speaker 1: record that he's going to put him back if he
Speaker 1: if he gets re elected, he's putting him back in
Speaker 1: his position. So he's going to keep his mouth completely
Speaker 1: completely shut.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 1: Yeah, But the only one I hear say anything is
Speaker 1: christ He will come out and say he knew, and
Speaker 1: Bard did say that he absolutely knew. He was informed.
Speaker 1: But that's sort of as far as they'll go. Chris
Speaker 1: Christy kind of goes over the edge because he was
Speaker 1: an advisor who he took no information from, you know,
Speaker 1: like he didn't he didn't value his opinion. Obviously, he
Speaker 1: has nothing Trump but sickophants around him, people who will
Speaker 1: agree with him and whatever he says. Okay, okay, Donald,
Speaker 1: okay Donald. You know that's sort of the crowd that
Speaker 1: it appears that he has around him. Nobody challenges him.
Speaker 2: When they do, they're gone, Yeah, and sadly they let
Speaker 2: him run them up. But the collecteral damage, unfortunately, are
Speaker 2: the American people.
Speaker 1: Absolutely well all of this flame. So all we're talking
Speaker 1: about is Trump and Hunter Biden, and it's all a
Speaker 1: smoke screen. We're not talking about any of the important
Speaker 1: things that we should be discussing at this.
Speaker 3: Point in the campaign.
Speaker 1: Who gives a shit about Hunter Biden. He's not running
Speaker 1: for president or any type of public office.
Speaker 2: I don't care.
Speaker 1: I want to know, how is my check going to
Speaker 1: get better? What are the groceries coming down, How is
Speaker 1: healthcare going to be improved? What are you and I
Speaker 1: going to do at retirement age? Is there going to
Speaker 1: be anything left?
Speaker 3: That's what I care about. No one's discussing it.
Speaker 2: The worst thing that this is showing America and the
Speaker 2: world is that America rewards bad behavior. Because Trump has
Speaker 2: three indictments, three sitting indictments on an ex president, first
Speaker 2: time in history, which is completely unheard of, and he
Speaker 2: is still the front runner for the GOP is with
Speaker 2: the reigning president. So you tell me that this is
Speaker 2: where we are as Americans.
Speaker 1: Makes this is the largest criminal investigation in US history.
Speaker 3: With the president. You know, in ps it's with the president.
Speaker 1: It is absolutely nuts and fifty percent still with national polling,
Speaker 1: fifty percent are still still standing behind him, according to
Speaker 1: Fox News. So I just can't even It's humiliating to me.
Speaker 1: You know, when I speak to my family that's an
Speaker 1: Ireland or out of this country, they think we're nuts.
Speaker 3: You know, we were the standard.
Speaker 1: To hold themselves up against, and now you know he's
Speaker 1: he's an absolute jackass.
Speaker 3: You know, he's a clown. He's a clown.
Speaker 2: Unfortunately, Bobby, I can't even blame Trump. Trump is a
Speaker 2: page from the old school, and he is making a
Speaker 2: mockery of politics, government, democracy, America, people, children, the media,
Speaker 2: everything that touches him. If you do not fall in
Speaker 2: line with how he feels or his ideology, you are
Speaker 2: wrong or you are a a phone or you are questioned.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm really loving though, is that the
Speaker 2: Black Republicans that were running for president, the Tim Scotts
Speaker 2: and Wooba Woo, are getting they asked is handed to
Speaker 2: him right now because they decided that with Rond de
Speaker 2: Santa's with that whole ap class and not teaching black
Speaker 2: history or that the yeah the slavery, slavery was a
Speaker 2: plus for helping that they are really stepping up now
Speaker 2: to realize that I'm black first and that's not true.
Speaker 5: I love that it took.
Speaker 2: I hate that it took what it took for them
Speaker 2: to understand that, but I love that they are finally
Speaker 2: getting they asked is handed to him because now they realize, oh, yeah,
Speaker 2: I'm black first. And that's not to say that I'm
Speaker 2: anti anything else, but Bobby, you are a Caucasian Irish woman.
Speaker 2: You're pro Irish Caucasian, and that gonna make you anti
Speaker 2: anything else. And that's I love to push that to people,
Speaker 2: because you supposed to love who God made you. That
Speaker 2: don't mean you discredit anyone else. But now they have
Speaker 2: really found the getting the asses handed to them, and
Speaker 2: they're gonna They were never gonna win anyway, let me
Speaker 2: just be very honest.
Speaker 5: They're never gonna win. They didn't.
Speaker 2: They never had the likability factor that President Obama had,
Speaker 2: but they just it's just we are so in conflict
Speaker 2: and it's such turmoil in this country. And I think
Speaker 2: that that is the objective of a lot of Trump,
Speaker 2: not the gops, not per se, but Trump, and that
Speaker 2: the people that think like trumpga people, Yeah, they're going
Speaker 2: to come from make America great again. The only thing
Speaker 2: that we have a great America. It's amusement park in Chicago,
Speaker 2: and we're on the roller coaster right now and we're
Speaker 2: headed towards a brick wall with no breaks.
Speaker 1: Good god, well, we gotta we better slip on some
Speaker 1: chalk walks underneath the wheels.
Speaker 3: Rond de Santa's what what I find amazing.
Speaker 1: Is that he tries to blame everything on Kamala Harris,
Speaker 1: you know, on the standard she set and requested. That's
Speaker 1: that's not the case. And if she requested standards for everybody,
Speaker 1: why aren't they changing other the Asian history and uh
Speaker 1: in Jewish history, they're not touching or putting their fingers
Speaker 1: on that. This especially specifically African American history, which is
Speaker 1: a hot button topic and which is is the device
Speaker 1: of you know, peace of America. So he's just a
Speaker 1: he's an absolute fool.
Speaker 2: I have I have figured out his game plan though,
Speaker 2: as far as his strategy, I really have.
Speaker 5: I believe I have.
Speaker 2: Uh. I see that he will go after a woman,
Speaker 2: another sexist, but he is afraid to be challenged bright Man.
Speaker 2: He will not debate with me, and he will not
Speaker 2: debate with smart He won't debate. I don't think he
Speaker 2: will ever debate with Biden or with Gavin Newsom because
Speaker 2: he would be destroyed.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 2: They won't to say he has an Ivy League education,
Speaker 2: but I'm getting very public school education here because he
Speaker 2: has no balls.
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, he he doesn't.
Speaker 1: He doesn't have the nerve when he's not good at
Speaker 1: which actually Biden has always been very good at. It's
Speaker 1: quick on their feet, right because Biden. But what he
Speaker 1: brings in is he's a little slower, don't get me wrong.
Speaker 1: But he brings in a whole life of history, brings
Speaker 1: sixty years worth of experience or fifty years worth of experience,
Speaker 1: so he has he doesn't have to go back and
Speaker 1: research something. He knows it for him, He lived it,
Speaker 1: He did it so he can bring that forward. So
Speaker 1: he's not bad in the debate, whereas I find DeSantis
Speaker 1: the few times I've seen.
Speaker 3: Him, I can't even call them debates. He just spoke
Speaker 3: with somebody else. He needs to go and research and
Speaker 3: look something up.
Speaker 1: He's not quick with the facts. Whether he doesn't have
Speaker 1: a great memory, and he doesn't hold the fact. I mean,
Speaker 1: I don't know, I don't know, I don't know. I've
Speaker 1: never he's never been my cup of tea, so I
Speaker 1: haven't put a lot of energy into him. To me,
Speaker 1: he's hanging himself with all the independence, with all this
Speaker 1: stupid rhetoric.
Speaker 3: Now he goes back and forth.
Speaker 2: And here's the plus that he's losing in his own state,
Speaker 2: Florida sick of his set, so I'm with you, Florida
Speaker 2: sigre his shit and spreading across the country. So yeah,
Speaker 2: and he's only seventeen percent, so he's second behind Trump,
Speaker 2: but he's way behind Trump because Trump forty percent.
Speaker 3: I think forty two or something. Yeah, you're just about
Speaker 3: your you're right that.
Speaker 5: For three.
Speaker 1: Well, let me tell you, Biden, he's getting not to
Speaker 1: get off the top Trump topic topic, but he gets
Speaker 1: two thumbs up for me, basically sneaking in that school
Speaker 1: loan forgiveness by making an income driven And I'm going
Speaker 1: to tell anybody that's listening, if you've got student loans,
Speaker 1: it's worth filling it out. I did it for my son.
Speaker 1: Took me about ten minutes and he went from a
Speaker 1: four hundred dollars payment down to eighteen dollars a month.
Speaker 3: Because he does that information. What's it is?
Speaker 1: It is studentaid dot gov or if you put in
Speaker 1: the save program, it will bring you. That's another it'll
Speaker 1: bring up when you google that, it will bring up
Speaker 1: the way. And I'm telling you ten minutes it's worth
Speaker 1: he went from a forty five thousand dollars what he
Speaker 1: owed down to eight thousand. That's like the quickest thing
Speaker 1: in the world. So it's worth people's time. You don't waste,
Speaker 1: waste nothing but ten minutes of your time. You could
Speaker 1: multitask and be.
Speaker 3: Listening to the podcast and doing that at the same time.
Speaker 3: So always always take that.
Speaker 1: And sharing it and sharing it with a friend and
Speaker 1: keep the hand washing and the lifestyle going flame. Because
Speaker 1: COVID's on the rise of twelve percent last week with
Speaker 1: this new XBB strain, So people keep still continue to
Speaker 1: be careful and diligent. Yeah, I'm looking. Did you see
Speaker 1: Trump at all? I did not watch him during the
Speaker 1: Raymond I was still working.
Speaker 3: I can only.
Speaker 1: Imagine the bravada that he had. I'm sure he did.
Speaker 1: He said we're guilty.
Speaker 2: According to ABC and uh my husband David Muir, they
Speaker 2: said that when he was in the courtroom, all he
Speaker 2: did was stair face on to what's the what's the
Speaker 2: prosecutor's name for the FB what's his name?
Speaker 3: Oh, yes, it is it. Who is this new guy?
Speaker 3: Jack Smith? Isn't it?
Speaker 5: They say he just air Jacksmith down.
Speaker 2: It was a staring contest, and he stared and stared
Speaker 2: him down, and I'm like, he looking at him because
Speaker 2: he's letting him know when I win, or if I win,
Speaker 2: I'm coming after you first. It is very scary to
Speaker 2: think that, because Bobby, here's the killing part. I think
Speaker 2: I've said this before. I don't I don't dislike Trump
Speaker 2: for the for the reality show. Trump that he's an innertuity,
Speaker 2: But never did I think that he was good for politics,
Speaker 2: and because he's not a politician. But now to think
Speaker 2: that you would win just so that you could wreak
Speaker 2: havoc on a country because you're angry and you want
Speaker 2: to do some payback. That's scary as shit, Bobby, That's
Speaker 2: scary as hell.
Speaker 3: It's it's amazing to me.
Speaker 1: I mean, there are they say that there are four counts.
Speaker 1: There's the conspiracy to defraud the US, This conspiracy to
Speaker 1: obstruct unofficial proceeding, obstruction of attempt to an of an
Speaker 1: official proceeding, and then conspiracy against rights. I hadn't look
Speaker 1: that one up for because I had absolutely no idea
Speaker 1: what that means. And they came up with a little blurb.
Speaker 1: But they conspire to injure, oppress, or threaten, or intimidate
Speaker 1: any person seeking freely to exercise any right or privilege
Speaker 1: that's owed to him by the Constitution.
Speaker 5: And these right here are all his is these are
Speaker 5: all his.
Speaker 3: Oh absolutely, He's got six cod conspiracies, four attorneys, a consultant,
Speaker 3: and a Justice Department official that are all going. They
Speaker 3: haven't told us who they are yet.
Speaker 1: They're assuming Kaitlin Collins of CNN is assuming that one
Speaker 1: of them is Giuliani, but we don't know yet. But
Speaker 1: this is only one indictment. Let's remember he's got the
Speaker 1: indictment in New York for falsifying business records with the
Speaker 1: Stormy Daniels deal, so that was more local. And then
Speaker 1: he's got the mishandling of classified documents, and then this
Speaker 1: one trying to overturn election.
Speaker 3: Two federal and one local. It's amazing.
Speaker 2: I strongly believe I received that one of his biggest
Speaker 2: allies will that will turn on him the hardest, will
Speaker 2: be Rudy Giuliani. Rudy Giuliani don't want to be on
Speaker 2: this side of history to be remembered. I don't believe
Speaker 2: he's gonna want to because, like you said before on
Speaker 2: podcasts when we were taping, he was America's mayor when
Speaker 2: nine eleven happened. People loved him. He has tarnished his
Speaker 2: brand and tarnished his name so ugly Kington Trump's brass
Speaker 2: ring and trying to be on the wrong side of history.
Speaker 2: That I believe, and he's in his golden years. He
Speaker 2: does not want to spend his golden years behind prison bars.
Speaker 2: I don't think he wants to die in a federal prison.
Speaker 2: But I do believe that he will be the one
Speaker 2: that will come out and say ay, ay, this, this,
Speaker 2: that and the third because he not that he has
Speaker 2: too much to lose, but he don't want to leave
Speaker 2: here being the most one of the most hated lawyers
Speaker 2: ever or one of the most hated Americans ever, because
Speaker 2: of all the lives.
Speaker 5: I do believe he's.
Speaker 2: Going to turn Benedict Arnold on Benedict Arnold, I say
Speaker 2: what I say.
Speaker 3: It, I don't. I don't necessarily think you're wrong at all.
Speaker 1: You know, I don't. You know what I'm going to
Speaker 1: remember him for? And this is so terrible, the sweating
Speaker 1: of the of.
Speaker 2: The of the of the the Beijing running down his face.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, if for all the good at one
Speaker 1: time that he did he got us through nine to eleven.
Speaker 3: He was brilliant at that time.
Speaker 1: But that's why, unfortunately, that's what I'm going to That's
Speaker 1: what I'm gonna remember.
Speaker 3: I'm interested to see who.
Speaker 1: Will who will pay for his legal fees because I
Speaker 1: know that Trump is paying with the donor funds.
Speaker 3: Right, he said forty million already.
Speaker 2: Isn't that a conflict of interest? Bobby Clifford, Right, So
Speaker 2: what do he called? Uh voter, I'm not voting for
Speaker 2: what did they call it? Campaign?
Speaker 3: A mishandling of the funds or something.
Speaker 2: Because had it been a lesser person than the President Trump,
Speaker 2: they would have went after they asked, so.
Speaker 3: Handy, I don't understand it. Bari even mentioned it.
Speaker 1: Somebody asked about it, and he said, it's nausegating to
Speaker 1: think that you have people, you know, low dollar donations,
Speaker 1: like if it would me making a donation, and you're
Speaker 1: using it towards But he didn't say it was illegal.
Speaker 1: Like I was waiting for him to say, hell, get
Speaker 1: called on that next. He didn't say that.
Speaker 2: So all of these golden seniors who have worked, who
Speaker 2: are on the fixing right for two thousand a month,
Speaker 2: you're taking fifteen twenty dollars a month out of your
Speaker 2: money to send you a donation on stop the stealwey
Speaker 2: my president Biden has been a president pretty much now
Speaker 2: for four years, so that's pretty much gone. But again,
Speaker 2: lost people follow lost people. The hypocrisy of is that
Speaker 2: these are the same people that would vote you to
Speaker 2: get you in office, and you will turn your back
Speaker 2: on them. Trump tried to end Medicare. Trump has tried
Speaker 2: to end Social Security.
Speaker 3: Trump and his.
Speaker 2: Team has tried to end people who were working on
Speaker 2: the coal miners to get all this stuff that they
Speaker 2: needed for their loans. But they all support him. Bobby,
Speaker 2: I don't understand what people how she is. I'm like,
Speaker 2: you're gonna vote for somebody to kill you. That's what
Speaker 2: it looks like to me on the outside. Look at Eve,
Speaker 2: because you are more racist than you are American.
Speaker 3: Wow, I don't.
Speaker 1: I mean, VI, you were just talking about Marjorie Taylor Green.
Speaker 1: I would be very interested flame to see when if
Speaker 1: they took her parents, social Security and medicare await.
Speaker 3: What would you do? What would you do and how
Speaker 3: would you react?
Speaker 1: I mean, does she have enough money as a representative
Speaker 1: of congresswoman to support them?
Speaker 3: Holy No, of course she doesn't.
Speaker 1: So it's interesting all these people that hang on to
Speaker 1: his coattails and agree with them, that they that they
Speaker 1: would do something like that.
Speaker 3: It's just ridiculous.
Speaker 2: It's Bobby, Well, we're on laping line. I want to
Speaker 2: ask you a personal, very personal question as far do
Speaker 2: you think Bobby Clifford, as a Caucasian woman and an
Speaker 2: American and a voting American, do you think they're more
Speaker 2: afraid of.
Speaker 5: Him?
Speaker 2: Or if he wins, he will remember that they didn't
Speaker 2: support him, I asked, I asked, move forward. Do you think, okay, okay,
Speaker 2: do you think they're more afraid of his power or
Speaker 2: afraid of his backlash?
Speaker 3: I think it.
Speaker 1: I think his power is his backlash. I think that's
Speaker 1: an excellent question, but I think it's the same. I
Speaker 1: think I think it's his power. Is exactly what you said,
Speaker 1: it's backlash. His backlash is so bad that they're terrior.
Speaker 1: They're terrified, and that is his power.
Speaker 3: I don't understand. I really do.
Speaker 1: And people are going to think I love Republicans, I
Speaker 1: love a two party system. This is everything that I love,
Speaker 1: everything that our country was set up for flames. So
Speaker 1: it's not that I specifically don't care for this one man.
Speaker 3: I don't know him. It's his politics and the way
Speaker 3: he speaks to people.
Speaker 1: So I don't know how he got he got this
Speaker 1: type of power, But I feel like there's almost a
Speaker 1: cult likeness to it. Like people they believe everything that
Speaker 1: he says. They can watch it happen. But because Fox
Speaker 1: News said who got caught with their pants down, you know,
Speaker 1: six months ago, and came forward and we're honest that
Speaker 1: they they lie, people still are believing it's.
Speaker 2: Lain they're not cans because again, and the name of
Speaker 2: this episode will be America rewards bad behavior. It is
Speaker 2: terrible to think that and to say that publicly, because
Speaker 2: we know we have an entire world watching. Even before
Speaker 2: they show, Bobby and I were speaking and she says
Speaker 2: her family and Iron like, oh my god, what are
Speaker 2: you guys doing over there? Imagine Bobby, all the other
Speaker 2: countries are saying the exact same thing.
Speaker 1: They absolutely are because they somebody. So when you're in Europe,
Speaker 1: he kind of speaks to all the you know, your
Speaker 1: friends that are throughout the country because they do as
Speaker 1: you know, they do school different, they go with the
Speaker 1: bigger groups, they do all these trips.
Speaker 3: They blah blah blah. And they said, you know, Europe
Speaker 3: is like that, one eye open and like, what are
Speaker 3: you doing.
Speaker 1: I heard a comedian from England, I think he was yesterday,
Speaker 1: and he was talking about how we do everything big.
Speaker 1: So when we have good behavior, it's big. We have
Speaker 1: bad behavior, it's big. And we love a clown. In fact,
Speaker 1: we love a clown so much and we were so
Speaker 1: big that we put him in office. Well, let me
Speaker 1: tell you, there wasn't I don't know.
Speaker 3: If he was over here doing the show, it was
Speaker 3: silence crickets. But I thought, oh that was powerful.
Speaker 5: I take Bozo back.
Speaker 2: I miss Bozo back, and I just give me Bozo
Speaker 2: bag if I mean, if you're gonna we it, if
Speaker 2: you're on wed a costume, if you're gonna be the
Speaker 2: clown weather costume.
Speaker 5: Don't wear a red tie and a blue suit, just
Speaker 5: weather costume.
Speaker 1: If we wet that hair a little lead, have those
Speaker 1: two big things that came off the side of it.
Speaker 2: We're laughing about this, Americans, and we laughing about this
Speaker 2: laugh and learned audience when I'm telling you we are
Speaker 2: in such a crisis, and I hope we pay attention
Speaker 2: to the distractions that everything is happening from the trans community,
Speaker 2: from the racism, from the politics of the coronavirus and this,
Speaker 2: and that the kickback is so much distraction to what
Speaker 2: we're going to lose focus on. And you've made a
Speaker 2: very pointing point earlier, Bobby, you said that we are
Speaker 2: fighting with listen to the Trump on this side, and
Speaker 2: then we listen to the other stuff and the margin jails,
Speaker 2: greens on this ad.
Speaker 5: And all of this.
Speaker 2: We listen to what is going on with Hunter Biden,
Speaker 2: and we're missing the point of our sitting president is
Speaker 2: doing a job that nobody is talking about because in
Speaker 2: as much as he has not been perfect, which nobody
Speaker 2: is and if he hasn't passed, he is moving this
Speaker 2: machine forward, and we are not talking about the positive
Speaker 2: of what he's doing because we're so distracted by the
Speaker 2: negative of all that is happening. What we have to
Speaker 2: do is push this bullshit to the side and look
Speaker 2: at where we are and what we're accomplishing. Yes we
Speaker 2: want lower gas prices, Yes we want better economy, Yes
Speaker 2: we want Medicare, but we have a president that's in
Speaker 2: there that's working on it. But we're so focused on
Speaker 2: an ex president that we don't want back keeping up
Speaker 2: all of this shit with these indictments, that we cannot
Speaker 2: focus and pay attention to what is really the subject
Speaker 2: at hand. That we have a good president right now
Speaker 2: doing a good job, that we'll do an even better
Speaker 2: job once we put.
Speaker 3: Him back in office for the next four years.
Speaker 2: If you think I'm preaching, and then god damn it,
Speaker 2: here the preacher, because the preacher is telling you what
Speaker 2: we have to do to win as an American country.
Speaker 2: We cannot lose the little bit of democracy that we
Speaker 2: are fighting to hold on to. That was my message,
Speaker 2: Rober You can say what you got to say.
Speaker 3: No, I think you're but that's exactly it.
Speaker 1: So the message was to dumb it down, pay attention,
Speaker 1: vote locally so that you help President Biden out and
Speaker 1: you get the right people into positions of what you want.
Speaker 1: You know, vote for the person you want. We're not
Speaker 1: telling you to go all Democrat or whatever. I mean,
Speaker 1: we need it right now, but you have to We
Speaker 1: have to all do our part. It can't just be
Speaker 1: the president doing his part, because he is trying his best.
Speaker 3: He is.
Speaker 1: He is trying to hit every promise that he made.
Speaker 1: He has not been able to because he's been stopped
Speaker 1: by Congress Marjorie Taylor Green and her Elk and or
Speaker 1: the Senate, although the Senate has come around to our
Speaker 1: side this time. But he is putting women and people
Speaker 1: of color and key positions. He's making the leadership look
Speaker 1: like how the streets when you walk down the street,
Speaker 1: what it looks like. He's He's doing whatever he can
Speaker 1: for the for the middle of the road people and
Speaker 1: people are of a lower income.
Speaker 3: But we have to do our part too. We can't
Speaker 3: just rely on him.
Speaker 1: We have to do our part.
Speaker 2: It is a scary, sticky, sticky situation. But Bobby Clipping,
Speaker 2: I'll tell you what, laugh and line would not be
Speaker 2: what it is this season without you. I just want
Speaker 2: you to personally in front of everyone. I appreciate your knowledge,
Speaker 2: I appreciate your tenacity. I damn sure appreciate your research
Speaker 2: because you know, I got a million things going on
Speaker 2: and I want to say thank you from me and
Speaker 2: I get so many fans that say, oh my god,
Speaker 2: claim we love Bobby Clippon is because she's so informative
Speaker 2: with no judgment. See that's what they love about you, Bobby.
Speaker 2: You're informative and you're pleasant with no judgment. I didn't
Speaker 2: always have that with some of my co hosts in
Speaker 2: the past. So thank you, Bobby clipp I appreciate that.
Speaker 3: I appreciate the the the opportunity. I love it. I
Speaker 3: think of it like a little internship.
Speaker 2: Well, let's hope we get to something big, Bobby, because
Speaker 2: I'm expecting something big to happen.
Speaker 3: I hope something really big. Oh, speaking about big things
Speaker 3: that happen, And I appreciate that that was very kind
Speaker 3: of you. Did you see the big X on your.
Speaker 1: I guess elon mask took away the little bluebird and
Speaker 1: he put it in on our are apps.
Speaker 3: And I haven't looked into the rebrand branding.
Speaker 1: I thought man.
Speaker 2: I thought Man was the X because my Twitter is
Speaker 2: full of porns. I figured, okay, well.
Speaker 3: My son was in the It was in the hospital
Speaker 3: yesterday and we were sitting.
Speaker 1: You know, you're killing time because it's so boring sitting
Speaker 1: in an emergency room.
Speaker 3: And he says, what is the acts? He thought it
Speaker 3: was poor and he goes, did some porn out part
Speaker 3: of him?
Speaker 2: That was the reason I thought Man was like that,
Speaker 2: because you're so much porn on my Twitter at. But Bobby,
Speaker 2: where can we follow you at?
Speaker 1: You can follow me at just my name Backwards corp
Speaker 1: for Bobby on Instagram and Facebook. I have to say
Speaker 1: I don't post a lot. I'd post more on Instagram
Speaker 1: if I post anything.
Speaker 3: How about you? Where are you coming next? And where
Speaker 3: we follow you?
Speaker 2: I will be in Chicago August the thirtieth for the
Speaker 2: fourteenis show. I was supposed to be in New London,
Speaker 2: Connecticut on the on the eleventh, but unfortunately that gig
Speaker 2: was poor because of some disgruntle trans people because they
Speaker 2: didn't like some things that I said. But on to
Speaker 2: the next September thirty fourth, I will be in Las
Speaker 2: Vegas at Jimmy Kimmel Club with Luneo, and September twenty second,
Speaker 2: I will be in DC Comedy Love, So you guys
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Speaker 2: with because here it laughing line.
Speaker 3: What Bobby, Oh my god, it's about mine. Don't lose
Speaker 3: your mind.
Speaker 2: But we are not trying to get you to lose
Speaker 2: you change Yeah, here it laughing line. We are not
Speaker 2: trying to get you to change your mind. We are
Speaker 2: only trying to get you to use your mind.
Speaker 1: Because why Bobby, this is my part now because of
Speaker 1: mine is a terrible thing to waste.
Speaker 5: I'm gonna need you to learn the whole thing.
Speaker 2: What if I'm not here one week?
Speaker 3: Oh my god, I get to say that. You can
Speaker 3: see how I am under pressure and not so good.
Speaker 5: Listen.
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