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Speaker 1: Well, I invited you here. I thought I made myself

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Speaker 1: perfectly clear. When you're a guest in my home, you

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Speaker 2: So how do you dare to surbey me?

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Speaker 3: Welcome to I said, no gifts. I'm Richard Wineger. Welcome

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Speaker 3: to the podcast. I wonder what you're doing. If you're

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Speaker 3: I don't know, if you're listening to this podcast while

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Speaker 3: you're working parking enforcement, maybe take a minute to just

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Speaker 3: cut some people up. Break. I was just out and

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Speaker 3: I didn't feed the meter. I just had to run

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Speaker 3: maybe just don't be a nark for thirty seconds of

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Speaker 3: your life. Give everybody a minute to just breathe at

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Speaker 3: the meter. And on the other side, if you're listening

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Speaker 3: to this, well, considering an illegal parking job, I don't know,

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Speaker 3: for something that's a little more doable. I don't know.

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Speaker 3: Welcome to the podcast. I'm so happy everyone's here, and

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Speaker 3: I'm so happy about today's guest. Everybody loves her. We're

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Speaker 2: I don't know if everybody loves me enough.

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Speaker 3: People love me, but enough to assume everybody.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but I got there's some enemies around town.

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Speaker 3: Start naming enemies. We've got an hour. Just get out

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Speaker 3: your list, unfurl the scroll, and begin naming enemies.

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Speaker 2: Sometimes I get confrontational. I'm trying to work on it.

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Speaker 2: Do you watch below deck?

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Speaker 3: No, I've had it recommended to me so many times,

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Speaker 3: and I'm certain I would love it.

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Speaker 3: I want to be a kay just not giving anybody

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Speaker 2: Because I get too emotional about everything, and I want

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Speaker 3: Okay, So that's wonderful, and that really is the absolute defense.

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Speaker 3: The other person will lose their mind because they want

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Speaker 2: Well, recently I got into a fight with a friend

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Speaker 2: really defensive. I go out, Oh, yeah, you just said

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Speaker 3: Do you feel like you're getting in fights like daily, weekly?

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Speaker 3: How often are you confronting someone?

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Speaker 2: Oh? I would say weekly, but sometimes it's not that important.

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Speaker 3: Oh that's that's a very heroic cause.

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Speaker 2: That's a conference and that's what he did. My favorite

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Speaker 3: Just immediately proving yeah, but that is not their regular

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Speaker 3: But it's just the level of volume of his voice.

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Speaker 2: How long have you been together six and a half years?

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Speaker 2: I grew up in a yelling family. So when people

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Speaker 3: Oh, healthy communication, I mean speaking of let's just be honest.

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Speaker 3: I realized I wasn't following you, following you on Instagram today,

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Speaker 2: The same trash you're posting trash, which is annoying.

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Speaker 2: I was only there for like a week.

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Speaker 3: This was just a were you're doing shows? What are

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Speaker 2: I tried to make it as positive as possible. It

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Speaker 2: Yeah? I have a Gaga shower curtain, but I'm But

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Speaker 2: you know when you say like you love someone and them,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but I love all the hits and I just

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Speaker 3: Look, I'm not super into this sort of this type

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Speaker 2: No, but I just said you're number one. I didn't

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Speaker 2: Number one woman, number one fan of.

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Speaker 3: Lisa Traeger, and I've got her here, I've trapped her

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Speaker 2: Robin is a good one though.

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Speaker 3: Robin So, I mean Robin, I mean, really takes her time,

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Speaker 2: I had her early album. I had the Show Me

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Speaker 2: And then what do you remember the moment where you

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Speaker 3: Oh it's wild. I mean it's a fully different person.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that was, I mean so cool.

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Speaker 3: The hits are fine, but like compared to the new Robin,

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Speaker 3: I don't like singing or yelling in Unison. It makes

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Speaker 2: and I don't know about a cheer.

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Speaker 2: I like defense. Yeah, I like that.

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Speaker 3: It makes me so uncomfortable. I don't know why. It

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Speaker 2: I can't do things. I wouldn't want to sing on

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Speaker 3: I don't drink, so maybe that's part.

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Speaker 2: This is it, This is why if I was sober,

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Speaker 2: I would hate to go defense. But I yeah, that's

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Speaker 2: that's the key. That's the missing key.

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Speaker 3: I feel like I've had jobs though where drunk or not.

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Speaker 3: You I mean, you couldn't be drunk in those situations

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Speaker 2: Corporate cheer is different than train platform after a Robin concert,

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Speaker 2: I just.

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Speaker 3: Don't want to experience or share an experience with anyone.

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Speaker 3: I think that's my problem. I've just got to be

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Speaker 3: basically a hermit.

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Speaker 2: You're a hermit. I like being a I need hermit

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Speaker 2: times I'm social social, and then I will fully shut

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Speaker 3: I just read this book called Stranger in the Woods.

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Speaker 3: Have you heard of this? It's about, Yes, a guy

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Speaker 2: No, I only I can only get my parents' edible

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Speaker 3: I would have loved I loved somebody, whether I've met

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Speaker 3: been a long time in the works, to be honest,

440
00:21:11,720 --> 00:21:13,840
Speaker 3: it's been months of you know, back and forth our

441
00:21:13,920 --> 00:21:17,280
Speaker 3: lawyers kind of going at each other's throats. Like Lisa

442
00:21:17,320 --> 00:21:19,439
Speaker 3: will only be on the podcast under these terms, and

443
00:21:19,440 --> 00:21:22,040
Speaker 3: I said, I'll only have her on the podcast under

444
00:21:22,080 --> 00:21:25,800
Speaker 3: these terms. Eventually both of our lawyers were fired, we

445
00:21:25,920 --> 00:21:28,880
Speaker 3: hired new lawyers. We finally came to an agreement. We're

446
00:21:28,880 --> 00:21:30,679
Speaker 3: on the same network, for God's sake, and it was

447
00:21:30,760 --> 00:21:37,119
Speaker 3: still just blood a bloodbath. But you're here now and

448
00:21:37,640 --> 00:21:40,399
Speaker 3: the podcast is called I said no gifts, and so

449
00:21:40,520 --> 00:21:43,040
Speaker 3: I was a little surprised. I was a little bit

450
00:21:43,280 --> 00:21:46,520
Speaker 3: startled the other night when I opened the front door,

451
00:21:47,400 --> 00:21:51,119
Speaker 3: and to my surprise, there was a box addressed to me.

452
00:21:52,119 --> 00:21:57,280
Speaker 3: Now it's in kind of a purple bag with a

453
00:21:57,400 --> 00:22:00,680
Speaker 3: cupcake on it, with a sprink What is that called

454
00:22:00,680 --> 00:22:02,439
Speaker 3: a spark I was gonna call it a sprinkler, but

455
00:22:02,480 --> 00:22:05,399
Speaker 3: I guess sparkler is kind of a sprinkler of fire,

456
00:22:05,600 --> 00:22:07,160
Speaker 3: So I guess I wasn't that far off.

457
00:22:07,359 --> 00:22:08,200
Speaker 2: But did you do that?

458
00:22:08,520 --> 00:22:10,439
Speaker 3: Because I don't know if I say you did that?

459
00:22:10,920 --> 00:22:14,760
Speaker 3: Look who did it is nobody's business. This could have

460
00:22:14,800 --> 00:22:20,080
Speaker 3: been done by anyone. It's a beautiful bag. End of conversation.

461
00:22:20,480 --> 00:22:21,280
Speaker 2: Sorry, cut that.

462
00:22:23,080 --> 00:22:30,040
Speaker 3: Keep it. Look, Lisa, I have to ask you, is

463
00:22:30,040 --> 00:22:30,760
Speaker 3: this a gift for me?

464
00:22:31,560 --> 00:22:32,680
Speaker 2: It is? It is? Yes?

465
00:22:33,240 --> 00:22:34,840
Speaker 3: Should I dive in here.

466
00:22:35,119 --> 00:22:37,200
Speaker 2: I would love you. I would love for that to happen.

467
00:22:42,000 --> 00:22:45,800
Speaker 2: I hope this is a gift that, instead of crushing

468
00:22:45,840 --> 00:22:49,400
Speaker 2: you in a pile of gifts, it's something that you go, huh,

469
00:22:49,640 --> 00:22:50,320
Speaker 2: I will see.

470
00:22:50,920 --> 00:22:51,439
Speaker 1: I like them.

471
00:22:51,520 --> 00:22:56,760
Speaker 3: Huh. Okay, here's some tissue paper. I could do this

472
00:22:56,840 --> 00:22:59,560
Speaker 3: all day. I would like to do this for five minutes,

473
00:23:00,320 --> 00:23:02,480
Speaker 3: just dropping listeners left and right.

474
00:23:02,560 --> 00:23:06,480
Speaker 2: But we're not going to I thought there's some asmr creeps.

475
00:23:06,560 --> 00:23:07,959
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, it is still boxed.

476
00:23:08,280 --> 00:23:10,560
Speaker 3: I'm still in the box. We've got to have a surprise.

477
00:23:10,840 --> 00:23:14,520
Speaker 3: I think there was one gift recently that I wasn't

478
00:23:14,560 --> 00:23:16,919
Speaker 3: surprised by. But most of the time I like to

479
00:23:16,960 --> 00:23:17,640
Speaker 3: be shocked.

480
00:23:18,280 --> 00:23:19,360
Speaker 2: I love a surprise.

481
00:23:19,800 --> 00:23:23,879
Speaker 3: Oh I adore a surprise. I am good or bad,

482
00:23:24,680 --> 00:23:27,840
Speaker 3: it's just you know, I like a little, a little

483
00:23:28,040 --> 00:23:31,040
Speaker 3: something new. So here we go. I've got my scissor.

484
00:23:31,160 --> 00:23:36,720
Speaker 3: I'm flying through the box opening I'm opening I don't

485
00:23:36,720 --> 00:23:39,280
Speaker 3: even like to look at it until I've fully taken

486
00:23:39,320 --> 00:23:41,320
Speaker 3: it out and I'm feeling things. It feels like there's

487
00:23:41,520 --> 00:23:43,520
Speaker 3: two items in here. To be honest, are there two

488
00:23:43,520 --> 00:23:44,120
Speaker 3: items in here?

489
00:23:44,320 --> 00:23:44,720
Speaker 2: There are?

490
00:23:45,040 --> 00:23:47,040
Speaker 3: There's like a larger one in a smaller one. Should

491
00:23:47,040 --> 00:23:47,879
Speaker 3: I take one out first?

492
00:23:48,440 --> 00:23:49,879
Speaker 2: I think the bigger one first.

493
00:23:49,920 --> 00:23:52,359
Speaker 3: Okay, bring out the bigger one first and we'll keep

494
00:23:52,359 --> 00:23:56,200
Speaker 3: the smaller one. Oh, this is a very useful thing.

495
00:23:56,640 --> 00:23:59,840
Speaker 3: This is great and a beautiful color. It's an Algaene

496
00:24:00,080 --> 00:24:03,639
Speaker 3: water bottle, which I've been using the same water bottle

497
00:24:03,720 --> 00:24:07,680
Speaker 3: for about six years now. Wow, it's actually right here,

498
00:24:08,600 --> 00:24:12,600
Speaker 3: totally destroyed. It's for other purposes. It's metal and can

499
00:24:12,600 --> 00:24:13,560
Speaker 3: be used as a weapon.

500
00:24:13,880 --> 00:24:14,360
Speaker 2: But this.

501
00:24:15,000 --> 00:24:16,560
Speaker 3: I've never owned one of these, and I'm always so

502
00:24:16,680 --> 00:24:18,720
Speaker 3: envious of people who haven't because I love to hydrate

503
00:24:18,800 --> 00:24:21,200
Speaker 3: and these make water look so delicious.

504
00:24:21,520 --> 00:24:24,239
Speaker 2: It was huge in high school, and I feel like

505
00:24:24,280 --> 00:24:27,640
Speaker 2: the two thousands are coming back. They've been back. We've

506
00:24:27,640 --> 00:24:31,399
Speaker 2: been living in a denial state, and I thought the

507
00:24:31,480 --> 00:24:34,600
Speaker 2: cool girls with their north faces and their birkenstocks, they

508
00:24:34,600 --> 00:24:35,560
Speaker 2: had their anlgenes.

509
00:24:35,800 --> 00:24:39,440
Speaker 3: They're back in such a huge way. Do you have one?

510
00:24:39,800 --> 00:24:42,600
Speaker 2: I don't have an Algaen. I have tons of water bottles,

511
00:24:42,800 --> 00:24:44,960
Speaker 2: cups with straws. I don't use any of them. They're

512
00:24:44,960 --> 00:24:49,280
Speaker 2: scattered everywhere. I have tons of plastic bottles. I'm constantly

513
00:24:49,359 --> 00:24:50,720
Speaker 2: I'm drowning in plastic.

514
00:24:52,600 --> 00:24:54,600
Speaker 3: Do you have like a go to one when you

515
00:24:54,640 --> 00:24:58,000
Speaker 3: do use them, or are you just picking randomly and

516
00:24:58,200 --> 00:24:59,160
Speaker 3: using that totra what.

517
00:24:59,119 --> 00:25:01,800
Speaker 2: I could find? But I you know, I'll have a

518
00:25:01,800 --> 00:25:04,400
Speaker 2: favorite for a couple It's like Barbies. It's like I'll

519
00:25:04,400 --> 00:25:06,080
Speaker 2: play with it for a few days and then it's

520
00:25:06,119 --> 00:25:08,679
Speaker 2: like I don't need this, I can't, I'll lose it,

521
00:25:08,720 --> 00:25:09,360
Speaker 2: I'll leave it.

522
00:25:10,359 --> 00:25:12,080
Speaker 3: Do you feel like you're a hydrated person.

523
00:25:12,920 --> 00:25:16,480
Speaker 2: I have to focus on it really hard, really yeah.

524
00:25:16,760 --> 00:25:19,840
Speaker 3: So like, is this a new thing where you're like,

525
00:25:19,880 --> 00:25:22,679
Speaker 3: I'm going to start drinking sixty ounces of water a

526
00:25:22,760 --> 00:25:25,520
Speaker 3: day or is it just randomly you'll think, oh, I

527
00:25:25,520 --> 00:25:26,800
Speaker 3: should probably have some water now.

528
00:25:27,440 --> 00:25:30,440
Speaker 2: Well, it depends how into my fitness routine I am

529
00:25:30,440 --> 00:25:33,920
Speaker 2: at at any particular moment. So if I'm going hard courts,

530
00:25:33,920 --> 00:25:37,000
Speaker 2: like yeah I'm chugging, I'm chugging. But if I'm left

531
00:25:37,000 --> 00:25:39,760
Speaker 2: to my own devices, just a few. But also if

532
00:25:39,760 --> 00:25:41,920
Speaker 2: I'm at the comedy clubs, I'll drink more water because

533
00:25:41,920 --> 00:25:45,240
Speaker 2: they'll give you water bottles. Oh right, So if I

534
00:25:45,480 --> 00:25:48,119
Speaker 2: or if I'm out to dinner, I'll fucking I'll finish

535
00:25:48,160 --> 00:25:50,520
Speaker 2: three four glass. It has to be it's like a

536
00:25:50,560 --> 00:25:52,080
Speaker 2: trough situation.

537
00:25:51,840 --> 00:25:58,360
Speaker 3: Nuts I'm kind of the same where like a pre pandemic,

538
00:25:58,400 --> 00:26:00,719
Speaker 3: when I was in writer's rooms, there was you know,

539
00:26:00,880 --> 00:26:05,640
Speaker 3: there was water uplenty. I was drinking constantly, just constantly

540
00:26:05,680 --> 00:26:08,639
Speaker 3: having to go to the bathroom. I was as hydrated

541
00:26:08,680 --> 00:26:11,000
Speaker 3: as I've ever been. And then like the first four

542
00:26:11,000 --> 00:26:13,520
Speaker 3: months of the pandemic, I was probably drinking a glass

543
00:26:13,520 --> 00:26:16,280
Speaker 3: of water a day. I was essentially a dried up leaf.

544
00:26:17,160 --> 00:26:19,800
Speaker 3: And now I've kind of recommitted I just fill up

545
00:26:19,840 --> 00:26:23,840
Speaker 3: this water bottle as frequently as possible. I haven't really

546
00:26:23,880 --> 00:26:28,000
Speaker 3: noticed any difference in any way health wise, but I've

547
00:26:28,000 --> 00:26:29,439
Speaker 3: been told it's a good thing to do.

548
00:26:30,720 --> 00:26:34,840
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, it's a good thing. You haven't noticed any difference,

549
00:26:34,920 --> 00:26:35,520
Speaker 2: is it all? Though?

550
00:26:36,040 --> 00:26:39,400
Speaker 3: No? I mean what differences would I notice?

551
00:26:39,440 --> 00:26:41,040
Speaker 2: Well, one time my friend and I were at the

552
00:26:41,040 --> 00:26:45,040
Speaker 2: Brooklyn Museum and we hit like a moment where we

553
00:26:45,040 --> 00:26:46,480
Speaker 2: both were like we got to get out of here.

554
00:26:46,880 --> 00:26:49,760
Speaker 2: And then we both sipped on the water fountain and

555
00:26:49,880 --> 00:26:52,679
Speaker 2: immediately we're like, oh, I have more energy, and then

556
00:26:52,720 --> 00:26:54,399
Speaker 2: we got to stay at the art museum longer.

557
00:26:54,640 --> 00:26:58,320
Speaker 3: Oh well, then maybe my situation is more that I

558
00:26:58,400 --> 00:27:03,120
Speaker 3: am secretly hydrating, and so I've just I never really

559
00:27:03,160 --> 00:27:03,840
Speaker 3: noticed a different.

560
00:27:03,960 --> 00:27:07,520
Speaker 2: You're also not drinking. Drinking ruins your life, so you're

561
00:27:07,560 --> 00:27:10,399
Speaker 2: on like a hamster wheel of having to hydrate because

562
00:27:10,400 --> 00:27:13,600
Speaker 2: they're just poisoning your body.

563
00:27:15,520 --> 00:27:17,800
Speaker 3: Do you, I mean, do you drink things other than

564
00:27:17,880 --> 00:27:19,760
Speaker 3: water when you're trying to hydrate or is it just

565
00:27:19,840 --> 00:27:20,520
Speaker 3: purely water?

566
00:27:21,280 --> 00:27:25,360
Speaker 2: I have greens from this fitness blogger. I love greens. Yeah,

567
00:27:25,359 --> 00:27:30,520
Speaker 2: it's like powdered greens. Oh helps relieve bloats okay?

568
00:27:30,840 --> 00:27:32,720
Speaker 3: And does it taste bad?

569
00:27:33,240 --> 00:27:34,440
Speaker 2: Taste delicious?

570
00:27:34,960 --> 00:27:35,320
Speaker 3: Really?

571
00:27:35,760 --> 00:27:38,679
Speaker 2: This girl she just went viral on not just like

572
00:27:38,720 --> 00:27:40,920
Speaker 2: a few years ago, went viral with her weight loss

573
00:27:41,000 --> 00:27:45,120
Speaker 2: journey and she's so into fitness and now she has

574
00:27:45,160 --> 00:27:50,000
Speaker 2: an eight like eight figure company. She makes greens. She

575
00:27:50,080 --> 00:27:53,480
Speaker 2: makes some like powders are all natural, so for weightlifters,

576
00:27:53,520 --> 00:27:56,280
Speaker 2: I guess they use like pre workout and postwork on stuff,

577
00:27:56,280 --> 00:27:58,760
Speaker 2: but those are usually chemically So she created because she

578
00:27:58,800 --> 00:28:02,719
Speaker 2: has borderline personality, so she needs like level stuff, So

579
00:28:02,760 --> 00:28:06,560
Speaker 2: she created lines of like powders and proteins that are

580
00:28:06,600 --> 00:28:09,720
Speaker 2: all natural. And I just watch her work out every day.

581
00:28:10,280 --> 00:28:13,600
Speaker 3: Oh that's great. Wait, so did she use these powders

582
00:28:13,640 --> 00:28:16,800
Speaker 3: on her journey or did she use them after her journey.

583
00:28:17,320 --> 00:28:19,760
Speaker 2: I think after, but they got really big on TikTok.

584
00:28:19,800 --> 00:28:21,720
Speaker 2: They like if you just drink it every morning, it

585
00:28:21,760 --> 00:28:24,080
Speaker 2: does help with bloat. I don't know how that interesting.

586
00:28:24,480 --> 00:28:25,200
Speaker 2: I don't know how.

587
00:28:25,440 --> 00:28:29,120
Speaker 3: And it's just a mix of green vegetables dehydrated and crushed.

588
00:28:29,480 --> 00:28:31,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, something weird like that. But I'll drink anything. I

589
00:28:31,800 --> 00:28:34,280
Speaker 2: love diet coke. I love apple juice, I love bubble tea,

590
00:28:35,359 --> 00:28:37,479
Speaker 2: I love a beverage. I love a diet sun kissed.

591
00:28:38,160 --> 00:28:40,520
Speaker 3: Oh I've never had a diet sunkiss. I bet I

592
00:28:40,560 --> 00:28:41,280
Speaker 3: could get into that.

593
00:28:41,680 --> 00:28:43,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, I love all sodas, but I get the diet version.

594
00:28:43,880 --> 00:28:46,200
Speaker 2: Like if I'm getting sugar, I'd rather have gummy candies.

595
00:28:46,720 --> 00:28:49,840
Speaker 3: Right, I'm exactly the same. I mean I drank like

596
00:28:49,880 --> 00:28:52,600
Speaker 3: a sugared soda up until I was probably twenty two,

597
00:28:52,800 --> 00:28:55,800
Speaker 3: and then made the shift. I was working at restaurants

598
00:28:55,800 --> 00:28:57,600
Speaker 3: where that you could, you know, drink as much soda

599
00:28:57,600 --> 00:29:00,760
Speaker 3: as you wanted. And that just feels so dangerous to.

600
00:29:00,680 --> 00:29:03,560
Speaker 2: Me, maybe because I'm a girl who was always diet coke,

601
00:29:03,640 --> 00:29:05,680
Speaker 2: Like I didn't even think of anything else.

602
00:29:05,920 --> 00:29:08,600
Speaker 3: Oh, sure, and is diet coke your favorite diet soda.

603
00:29:10,120 --> 00:29:12,080
Speaker 2: No, I think like diet rupert. Yeah, diet coke is

604
00:29:12,120 --> 00:29:13,840
Speaker 2: the most, the one I frequent the most. If I

605
00:29:13,960 --> 00:29:16,040
Speaker 2: order a sushi takeout, I want to diet coke with that.

606
00:29:16,520 --> 00:29:20,520
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I love a diet coke. I like a

607
00:29:20,560 --> 00:29:23,360
Speaker 3: Coke zero. But apparently they've changed the formula. There was

608
00:29:23,400 --> 00:29:26,720
Speaker 3: this giant backlash against it. I don't know. I don't

609
00:29:26,720 --> 00:29:28,480
Speaker 3: follow the politics of diet.

610
00:29:28,240 --> 00:29:31,480
Speaker 2: Soda, so I was I'm on BuzzFeed a lot, and

611
00:29:32,080 --> 00:29:35,680
Speaker 2: they just came up with a thing like huge company blunders,

612
00:29:36,200 --> 00:29:40,320
Speaker 2: like big companies that like made one one mistake and

613
00:29:40,360 --> 00:29:42,520
Speaker 2: lost five hundred million dollars, like Red Lobster did and

614
00:29:42,600 --> 00:29:44,600
Speaker 2: all you can eat crab leg deal and they lost

615
00:29:44,600 --> 00:29:45,880
Speaker 2: five hundred million dollars.

616
00:29:45,960 --> 00:29:48,080
Speaker 3: I mean, of course, I mean that one I could

617
00:29:48,080 --> 00:29:51,160
Speaker 3: have I'm not in the Red Lobster or the crab business,

618
00:29:51,160 --> 00:29:53,040
Speaker 3: and I could have told them that was a bad idea.

619
00:29:53,120 --> 00:29:56,120
Speaker 2: Oh. J. C. Penny did something stupid where like they

620
00:29:56,160 --> 00:29:59,280
Speaker 2: were like, oh, instead of having sales, we'll just make

621
00:29:59,320 --> 00:30:02,080
Speaker 2: everything like it's seventy percent off. And then they lost

622
00:30:02,120 --> 00:30:03,560
Speaker 2: money because you know, like that.

623
00:30:03,720 --> 00:30:07,000
Speaker 3: I remember that one, and they put Ellen is the face.

624
00:30:07,000 --> 00:30:09,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, and they put like some ana like they try

625
00:30:09,720 --> 00:30:13,120
Speaker 2: to do a third what's a third? A third pound burger?

626
00:30:13,840 --> 00:30:17,360
Speaker 2: But people didn't realize that that was more than a

627
00:30:17,440 --> 00:30:20,560
Speaker 2: quarter pound, so they lost money.

628
00:30:21,400 --> 00:30:25,000
Speaker 3: You can't count on the general population's grasp of math

629
00:30:25,240 --> 00:30:27,600
Speaker 3: when you're like selling anw Hamburgers.

630
00:30:27,800 --> 00:30:29,960
Speaker 2: No, but saying with the Jcpenny people are like, I'm

631
00:30:29,960 --> 00:30:32,080
Speaker 2: not driving unless I get a deal, and they're like,

632
00:30:32,440 --> 00:30:33,040
Speaker 2: of course.

633
00:30:33,600 --> 00:30:37,000
Speaker 3: I mean, I mean, speaking as an extremely cheap person

634
00:30:37,000 --> 00:30:39,640
Speaker 3: who buys almost everything on sale. If I go somewhere

635
00:30:39,680 --> 00:30:41,960
Speaker 3: and there's not some sort of clearance rack, I'm just

636
00:30:42,000 --> 00:30:44,680
Speaker 3: like blining my way out of the store. I need

637
00:30:44,720 --> 00:30:47,320
Speaker 3: something to appear like it's been discounted. I need to

638
00:30:47,360 --> 00:30:49,840
Speaker 3: look at the crappy little sticker that's been placed over

639
00:30:49,920 --> 00:30:53,280
Speaker 3: the normal sticker and say, look, I'm ripping this store off.

640
00:30:53,520 --> 00:30:54,680
Speaker 2: Why do you splur John?

641
00:30:55,920 --> 00:30:59,520
Speaker 3: Absolutely nothing. It's again headed back to I'm a I

642
00:30:59,560 --> 00:31:04,160
Speaker 3: am away of this problem, but I do nothing to

643
00:31:04,200 --> 00:31:05,720
Speaker 3: fix it, not even a nice dinner.

644
00:31:05,760 --> 00:31:07,480
Speaker 2: You're not splurging anything and anything.

645
00:31:07,760 --> 00:31:11,560
Speaker 3: No, I mean, like I really have to force myself

646
00:31:11,600 --> 00:31:15,000
Speaker 3: to splurge on a dinner, Like it's a painful experience

647
00:31:15,120 --> 00:31:17,880
Speaker 3: until it's like months in the rear view, and then

648
00:31:17,880 --> 00:31:19,480
Speaker 3: I can look back and say, that was a nice.

649
00:31:19,240 --> 00:31:22,640
Speaker 2: Dinner, and what you're in your partner, what's what's the deal?

650
00:31:23,120 --> 00:31:23,320
Speaker 1: Oh?

651
00:31:23,480 --> 00:31:26,920
Speaker 3: He hates it. He despises every moment of it. He's

652
00:31:27,720 --> 00:31:32,320
Speaker 3: a I mean, I'm sure most people would find it

653
00:31:32,440 --> 00:31:36,040
Speaker 3: extremely frustrating to deal with me. Do you splurge on things?

654
00:31:37,040 --> 00:31:39,480
Speaker 2: You know? I'm the opposite problem where I'm living in

655
00:31:39,520 --> 00:31:43,000
Speaker 2: a studio apartment and there's multiple items here that cost hundreds,

656
00:31:43,000 --> 00:31:46,800
Speaker 2: if not thousands of dollars. What. Yeah, I have a

657
00:31:46,840 --> 00:31:48,480
Speaker 2: big problem, big problem.

658
00:31:48,720 --> 00:31:51,080
Speaker 3: Like, so, what's like an example of a really expensive

659
00:31:51,120 --> 00:31:52,000
Speaker 3: thing you bought recently?

660
00:31:52,440 --> 00:31:56,640
Speaker 2: Oh? Recent? Okay. So so it was my birthday, So

661
00:31:56,720 --> 00:31:57,960
Speaker 2: I was in New York. I want in a soul

662
00:31:58,000 --> 00:32:00,520
Speaker 2: Cycle birthday ride with a few friends, and then on

663
00:32:00,600 --> 00:32:01,920
Speaker 2: the way home to the hotel, I didn't have a

664
00:32:01,920 --> 00:32:03,600
Speaker 2: new outfits. I'd been on the road and everything is

665
00:32:03,760 --> 00:32:06,160
Speaker 2: and I was like, I just want a new thing

666
00:32:06,200 --> 00:32:08,480
Speaker 2: to wear tonight. So I popped into the Forever twenty

667
00:32:08,480 --> 00:32:09,920
Speaker 2: ones as are I was, and then I went into

668
00:32:10,000 --> 00:32:11,480
Speaker 2: Rag and Bone and I bought a three hundred and

669
00:32:11,480 --> 00:32:13,160
Speaker 2: seving dollars dress.

670
00:32:14,760 --> 00:32:17,680
Speaker 3: See that does to me. That does sound fun. Like theoretically,

671
00:32:17,720 --> 00:32:19,560
Speaker 3: I'm like, oh, the idea of going into a store

672
00:32:19,720 --> 00:32:22,040
Speaker 3: not thinking about the price and buying something the thing,

673
00:32:22,240 --> 00:32:25,080
Speaker 3: the exact thing I want. That sounds like a I mean,

674
00:32:25,120 --> 00:32:27,640
Speaker 3: of course, that's a great time. But I cannot do it.

675
00:32:27,640 --> 00:32:30,600
Speaker 3: It's impossible for me to do. I don't know how

676
00:32:30,640 --> 00:32:31,320
Speaker 3: to overcome it.

677
00:32:31,920 --> 00:32:35,440
Speaker 2: I'm trying. Oh, my friend's birthday is coming up this weekend.

678
00:32:35,520 --> 00:32:37,800
Speaker 2: She's in New York and I didn't know exactly what together.

679
00:32:37,840 --> 00:32:40,719
Speaker 2: And I was in ohair airport. Do you watch the housewives?

680
00:32:41,240 --> 00:32:43,320
Speaker 3: I watched The Real Housewives of Salt Lake City.

681
00:32:43,520 --> 00:32:45,240
Speaker 2: Okay, well, I can't wait for it to start.

682
00:32:46,000 --> 00:32:47,280
Speaker 3: Just about to start, I can't believe.

683
00:32:47,320 --> 00:32:49,120
Speaker 2: Well, this is the famous meme. You know, it's Kyle

684
00:32:49,160 --> 00:32:50,920
Speaker 2: and then she's pulling Taylor and then there's a cat

685
00:32:50,960 --> 00:32:52,600
Speaker 2: at the end of the dinner table. It's like a

686
00:32:52,600 --> 00:32:53,920
Speaker 2: popular meme with the white cat.

687
00:32:54,040 --> 00:32:55,360
Speaker 3: That's sounds familiar.

688
00:32:56,120 --> 00:32:58,760
Speaker 2: So it's like a popular meme. And there's a store

689
00:32:58,760 --> 00:33:01,600
Speaker 2: at the airport with the purse with that meme on it.

690
00:33:01,640 --> 00:33:03,800
Speaker 2: And I ran in and I said how much? And

691
00:33:03,840 --> 00:33:06,040
Speaker 2: she goes two hundred and I go I'll take it,

692
00:33:06,080 --> 00:33:09,440
Speaker 2: and she goes, you're a good friend. I got Yeah.

693
00:33:09,480 --> 00:33:11,040
Speaker 3: And do you ever worry about money?

694
00:33:11,960 --> 00:33:15,480
Speaker 2: Yeah? When I paid my MXS straight, Yeah, I worry

695
00:33:15,480 --> 00:33:18,479
Speaker 2: about it all the time. I were not really Actually no,

696
00:33:18,600 --> 00:33:20,360
Speaker 2: the problem is I don't worry about it or think

697
00:33:20,400 --> 00:33:24,360
Speaker 2: about it. But the pandemic fucked me so hard and

698
00:33:24,400 --> 00:33:26,560
Speaker 2: I had to get rid of my apartment. I was

699
00:33:26,720 --> 00:33:28,880
Speaker 2: living month to month. It was so stressful. I was like,

700
00:33:28,920 --> 00:33:31,800
Speaker 2: I've really learned. I've learned, but.

701
00:33:31,800 --> 00:33:33,800
Speaker 3: Then you're buying this three hundred dollars dress.

702
00:33:34,040 --> 00:33:36,720
Speaker 2: I haven't learned it all. I'm out to dinner. I'm

703
00:33:36,720 --> 00:33:40,640
Speaker 2: getting seven dollar iced coffee cold Bruise. I lost the necklace.

704
00:33:40,680 --> 00:33:42,600
Speaker 2: I went and bought another one of the same kind.

705
00:33:44,720 --> 00:33:47,160
Speaker 2: I bought this foot Yeah. I bought the sticker of Mary,

706
00:33:47,240 --> 00:33:50,479
Speaker 2: Kate and Ashley seven dollars. I got a seven dollars sticker.

707
00:33:50,600 --> 00:33:52,840
Speaker 2: I just like, don't oh, I got I got a

708
00:33:52,880 --> 00:33:54,680
Speaker 2: hotel in New York for two days.

709
00:33:54,760 --> 00:33:58,480
Speaker 3: That's insane, wonderful. I mean, I guess, like you say,

710
00:33:58,600 --> 00:34:01,320
Speaker 3: seven dollars cold Bruce, I guess like if that counts,

711
00:34:01,360 --> 00:34:04,400
Speaker 3: I will uh a few times a week by myself.

712
00:34:04,440 --> 00:34:07,280
Speaker 3: A decent cold brew before this podcast. But that all

713
00:34:07,400 --> 00:34:09,200
Speaker 3: like I justify my mind. I'm like, well, I'm about

714
00:34:09,200 --> 00:34:11,680
Speaker 3: to record the podcast. I need caffeine. I want to

715
00:34:11,760 --> 00:34:15,359
Speaker 3: enjoy it. I'll go to Collage Coffee. It's my favorite coffee,

716
00:34:15,880 --> 00:34:18,600
Speaker 3: and I'll spend five dollars.

717
00:34:18,600 --> 00:34:20,160
Speaker 2: Great, Okay, this is good to know.

718
00:34:20,760 --> 00:34:24,640
Speaker 3: So that's that's maybe one little thing I'm willing to spill.

719
00:34:24,680 --> 00:34:27,560
Speaker 2: But I'm gonna have to color my grays. I'm gonna

720
00:34:27,560 --> 00:34:29,759
Speaker 2: go get my nails done this week. Like I'm just

721
00:34:29,920 --> 00:34:33,640
Speaker 2: I'm constantly spending, NonStop, no matter what, and I'll find

722
00:34:33,719 --> 00:34:36,279
Speaker 2: new ways like this call. I have like twelve of these.

723
00:34:36,400 --> 00:34:38,120
Speaker 2: If I can't find the com I'll buy another one.

724
00:34:38,160 --> 00:34:40,520
Speaker 2: And this is one. I have two or three of

725
00:34:40,520 --> 00:34:41,960
Speaker 2: my suitke because I went to stay at my best

726
00:34:41,960 --> 00:34:43,800
Speaker 2: friend's house in New York and she had two combs

727
00:34:43,800 --> 00:34:46,200
Speaker 2: that I had left there from the previous trips.

728
00:34:46,640 --> 00:34:49,680
Speaker 3: So I just need to follow behind you closely, and

729
00:34:49,680 --> 00:34:51,920
Speaker 3: I'm probably going to get some nice item eventually as

730
00:34:51,960 --> 00:34:56,000
Speaker 3: you drop it or forget it. That's my new shopping philosophy.

731
00:34:56,080 --> 00:34:57,439
Speaker 3: Just follow these around town.

732
00:34:58,200 --> 00:35:00,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, Like I'm just looking at every it's in. It's truly,

733
00:35:02,600 --> 00:35:04,080
Speaker 2: it's at it. But you know, I had a nice,

734
00:35:04,080 --> 00:35:06,880
Speaker 2: thrifty shopping experience recently. I went to Old Navy and

735
00:35:06,920 --> 00:35:09,560
Speaker 2: they had some quality products. I loved my Old Navy time.

736
00:35:09,719 --> 00:35:13,040
Speaker 2: Really yeah. I bought dresses, bathing suits. I took my

737
00:35:13,160 --> 00:35:14,520
Speaker 2: niece bought her some dresses.

738
00:35:15,040 --> 00:35:18,839
Speaker 3: So was this like a new turn to Old Navy

739
00:35:18,880 --> 00:35:21,040
Speaker 3: or do you go there frequently? Because I feel like,

740
00:35:21,760 --> 00:35:23,480
Speaker 3: you know, some people may have dropped off with Old

741
00:35:23,520 --> 00:35:26,440
Speaker 3: Navy then returned correct maybe they've changed their philosophy.

742
00:35:26,680 --> 00:35:28,480
Speaker 2: I haven't been Old Navy in like a decade. I

743
00:35:28,480 --> 00:35:31,400
Speaker 2: would say, okay, and I was by the hotel in

744
00:35:31,480 --> 00:35:35,760
Speaker 2: my hometown and I want, yeah, I'll go to Old Navy,

745
00:35:35,760 --> 00:35:38,080
Speaker 2: see what's up. And then I was like, oh my god.

746
00:35:40,239 --> 00:35:43,120
Speaker 3: I've always had a trouble with Old Navy because I'm

747
00:35:43,560 --> 00:35:47,920
Speaker 3: a very basically child size adult and their men's clothes

748
00:35:48,000 --> 00:35:50,759
Speaker 3: are not They don't go to my size. So I

749
00:35:50,760 --> 00:35:52,960
Speaker 3: always end up feeling like I look kind of sloppy

750
00:35:52,960 --> 00:35:55,880
Speaker 3: in an Old Navy clothing item. I feel like I

751
00:35:55,960 --> 00:35:57,960
Speaker 3: feel left out at an Old Navy.

752
00:35:57,680 --> 00:36:00,360
Speaker 2: Where that's a great place to feel out of place.

753
00:36:01,719 --> 00:36:04,280
Speaker 2: You don't want to feel at home at old maybe,

754
00:36:05,400 --> 00:36:07,920
Speaker 2: But where do you mostly shop clip for clothes?

755
00:36:09,000 --> 00:36:11,160
Speaker 3: Where will I go? Well, let's say I'll go to

756
00:36:11,440 --> 00:36:12,759
Speaker 3: you know, thrift stores.

757
00:36:13,960 --> 00:36:14,480
Speaker 2: I will go.

758
00:36:14,719 --> 00:36:17,200
Speaker 3: I'll buy like basic T shirts, you know, an H

759
00:36:17,239 --> 00:36:22,719
Speaker 3: and M or a Target that basically covers it. I

760
00:36:22,719 --> 00:36:25,200
Speaker 3: guess anywhere where you can get a shirt for roughly

761
00:36:25,280 --> 00:36:29,200
Speaker 3: ten dollars. I'm not coming across well on this podcast,

762
00:36:29,239 --> 00:36:32,200
Speaker 3: I just sound like I'm completely miserable person.

763
00:36:32,600 --> 00:36:35,040
Speaker 2: No, you sound totally fine, and you're gonna be able

764
00:36:35,040 --> 00:36:35,640
Speaker 2: to retire.

765
00:36:36,480 --> 00:36:40,640
Speaker 3: You're to retire into just total lack of enjoyment.

766
00:36:41,680 --> 00:36:44,719
Speaker 2: No, but you'll be able to relax and finally spend

767
00:36:44,760 --> 00:36:47,560
Speaker 2: the little money or you know, when the ship hits

768
00:36:47,560 --> 00:36:49,680
Speaker 2: the fan, you're gonna grab your passport and you're gonna

769
00:36:49,680 --> 00:36:53,200
Speaker 2: have enough cash to leave. You're gonna get the fuck

770
00:36:53,239 --> 00:36:57,000
Speaker 2: out of here. So don't be bad. Wait open the

771
00:36:57,120 --> 00:36:58,040
Speaker 2: get the next show.

772
00:36:57,840 --> 00:37:00,160
Speaker 3: I get into that? Is there anything left any to

773
00:37:00,160 --> 00:37:02,080
Speaker 3: be said about this now? Jean Water, I hope you

774
00:37:02,200 --> 00:37:04,120
Speaker 3: use it. Of course I'm going to use.

775
00:37:04,239 --> 00:37:07,200
Speaker 2: The big brim is hard, but it does feel cool.

776
00:37:07,280 --> 00:37:10,000
Speaker 2: You hold the cat back. It's just like it's like

777
00:37:10,080 --> 00:37:12,200
Speaker 2: drinking from a waterfall. Yeah, well, I.

778
00:37:12,160 --> 00:37:15,360
Speaker 3: Will say I just recently, well, I can't say I

779
00:37:15,400 --> 00:37:18,040
Speaker 3: got into but I'm about to get into rock climbing.

780
00:37:18,120 --> 00:37:20,840
Speaker 3: I'm going to get a rock climbing membership the carabiner.

781
00:37:20,960 --> 00:37:22,400
Speaker 2: That will help this.

782
00:37:22,840 --> 00:37:24,799
Speaker 3: I'll fit right in at the gym. Nobody will know

783
00:37:25,200 --> 00:37:28,200
Speaker 3: the wiser. Is that what people say? But I'm gonna

784
00:37:28,200 --> 00:37:28,480
Speaker 3: look like it.

785
00:37:28,800 --> 00:37:32,680
Speaker 2: That's a brag. I had mountain climbing in high school,

786
00:37:33,120 --> 00:37:36,759
Speaker 2: rock climbing like a class. Yeah, for pe, one of

787
00:37:36,760 --> 00:37:39,319
Speaker 2: the electives was rock climbing, and like we had a

788
00:37:39,400 --> 00:37:40,239
Speaker 2: rock climbing wall.

789
00:37:40,320 --> 00:37:41,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, did you enjoy it?

790
00:37:42,200 --> 00:37:42,279
Speaker 1: No?

791
00:37:42,400 --> 00:37:45,680
Speaker 2: I actually didn't. I was not good at it. I

792
00:37:45,760 --> 00:37:48,160
Speaker 2: threatened a girl and then I had to earn her

793
00:37:48,160 --> 00:37:51,080
Speaker 2: trust back if I wanted to pass the class. And

794
00:37:51,080 --> 00:37:55,400
Speaker 2: then I also everyone everyone in the class could climb

795
00:37:55,480 --> 00:37:57,440
Speaker 2: this net and I just couldn't get to the top

796
00:37:57,480 --> 00:37:59,920
Speaker 2: of this. Like oh and no, I had a real

797
00:38:00,200 --> 00:38:01,760
Speaker 2: rough going mountain in rock climbing.

798
00:38:02,040 --> 00:38:04,160
Speaker 3: What you threatened a girl like I'm going to pull

799
00:38:04,200 --> 00:38:05,759
Speaker 3: you off of the wall or I'm going to let

800
00:38:05,800 --> 00:38:08,000
Speaker 3: you follow your death? What are we what are we

801
00:38:08,080 --> 00:38:08,560
Speaker 3: talking about?

802
00:38:08,640 --> 00:38:10,600
Speaker 2: I don't even remember, but there was an issue like

803
00:38:10,640 --> 00:38:11,479
Speaker 2: I threatened her.

804
00:38:14,000 --> 00:38:15,640
Speaker 3: Okay, let me, get into this book.

805
00:38:15,480 --> 00:38:17,400
Speaker 2: Get into it.

806
00:38:17,400 --> 00:38:22,080
Speaker 3: It got okay here. Oh, I'm beyond thrilled at what

807
00:38:22,120 --> 00:38:24,960
Speaker 3: I agree? Are these stickers?

808
00:38:25,200 --> 00:38:26,400
Speaker 2: Yeah? There?

809
00:38:26,440 --> 00:38:28,640
Speaker 3: And I've never known how to say this character's name.

810
00:38:28,719 --> 00:38:31,080
Speaker 3: And these may there may be Hello Kitty or something

811
00:38:31,080 --> 00:38:33,000
Speaker 3: in here, but so far I'm just saying.

812
00:38:34,480 --> 00:38:36,040
Speaker 2: That's how you say it either. But I love him,

813
00:38:36,200 --> 00:38:38,120
Speaker 2: and it's all. It's all Karropi.

814
00:38:38,719 --> 00:38:43,840
Speaker 3: I loved Karroopi. In elementary school. I had a little

815
00:38:44,080 --> 00:38:47,040
Speaker 3: pencil case with Karopi on it. There was also a

816
00:38:47,080 --> 00:38:50,120
Speaker 3: penguin named Bat's Maru, who I also loved. He was

817
00:38:50,120 --> 00:38:53,879
Speaker 3: more of the bad boy, but Karropi was my original love.

818
00:38:55,640 --> 00:38:57,640
Speaker 2: Sorry you go.

819
00:38:57,680 --> 00:38:59,200
Speaker 3: On, No, I want to know why you sent these,

820
00:38:59,239 --> 00:39:02,320
Speaker 3: because it feels like you looked into my past somehow

821
00:39:02,719 --> 00:39:03,240
Speaker 3: I didn't.

822
00:39:03,320 --> 00:39:05,239
Speaker 2: I love Cropy too. I went to high school with

823
00:39:05,280 --> 00:39:09,040
Speaker 2: a lot of Pacific Islanders and like Taiwanese, and they

824
00:39:09,080 --> 00:39:13,359
Speaker 2: just had like the clolest fucking Sanrio stuff, and I

825
00:39:13,440 --> 00:39:18,960
Speaker 2: love Sanrio and Hello Kitty is too obvious, I don't know,

826
00:39:19,000 --> 00:39:21,359
Speaker 2: And I thought what the green water bottle Kropi would

827
00:39:21,360 --> 00:39:23,120
Speaker 2: be it. But I had no idea that you loved

828
00:39:23,200 --> 00:39:24,920
Speaker 2: Karopi like I did, I do.

829
00:39:25,120 --> 00:39:27,000
Speaker 3: I'm going to put one of these on my water bottle.

830
00:39:27,040 --> 00:39:28,320
Speaker 2: That was I'm gonna put the something.

831
00:39:28,520 --> 00:39:29,960
Speaker 3: I mean, I have so many I can put them

832
00:39:29,960 --> 00:39:33,239
Speaker 3: on every item my own essentially. Yeah, this is like

833
00:39:33,280 --> 00:39:35,840
Speaker 3: a pack of fifty Karopi. Listener, if you don't know

834
00:39:35,840 --> 00:39:39,000
Speaker 3: who Kroopi is, it's the little frog who's friends with

835
00:39:39,040 --> 00:39:43,799
Speaker 3: Hello Kitty and the rest of the gang. He's very

836
00:39:43,840 --> 00:39:46,560
Speaker 3: cute and always seems to be up to something. I'm

837
00:39:46,600 --> 00:39:48,520
Speaker 3: looking at one right now, he's got a crown and

838
00:39:48,560 --> 00:39:50,680
Speaker 3: a scepter, and then the other one is just kind

839
00:39:50,680 --> 00:39:54,040
Speaker 3: of smiling meekly. But there are so many in here,

840
00:39:54,560 --> 00:39:59,640
Speaker 3: and uh Sanrio. Yeah. I actually interviewed for a job

841
00:39:59,680 --> 00:40:02,880
Speaker 3: there high school, and I remember my cell phone went

842
00:40:02,920 --> 00:40:05,239
Speaker 3: off during the interview, which I imagined led to me

843
00:40:05,320 --> 00:40:10,400
Speaker 3: not getting the job. But I could even re employee.

844
00:40:10,480 --> 00:40:12,680
Speaker 2: I thought, you'm like a headquarters. But then now I

845
00:40:12,760 --> 00:40:14,680
Speaker 2: realized as a teen, it was like the story.

846
00:40:15,120 --> 00:40:18,680
Speaker 3: I was interviewing for the CEO position of San Rio.

847
00:40:19,280 --> 00:40:23,000
Speaker 3: I had just touched down in Tokyo and my cell

848
00:40:23,040 --> 00:40:24,840
Speaker 3: phone went off during the interview, and so they just

849
00:40:24,840 --> 00:40:25,640
Speaker 3: sent me back.

850
00:40:26,040 --> 00:40:28,919
Speaker 2: There was other ones. There was like a choco dog.

851
00:40:29,000 --> 00:40:33,399
Speaker 3: Poco Poco Poco sounds right, poco or choco. There were

852
00:40:33,440 --> 00:40:35,520
Speaker 3: so many. I feel like Hello Kitty had like a

853
00:40:35,600 --> 00:40:36,320
Speaker 3: kind of a twin.

854
00:40:38,640 --> 00:40:41,319
Speaker 2: So yeah there because I just watched The Toys That

855
00:40:41,440 --> 00:40:44,000
Speaker 2: Made Us and I watched the Hello Kitty episode.

856
00:40:44,280 --> 00:40:45,279
Speaker 3: Oh was it good?

857
00:40:45,680 --> 00:40:47,279
Speaker 2: Yeah? It was great. I love knowing the history of

858
00:40:47,320 --> 00:40:48,920
Speaker 2: I watched the My Little Pony. I watched all the

859
00:40:48,920 --> 00:40:50,919
Speaker 2: girly toys. I didn't really care about g I, Joe

860
00:40:51,000 --> 00:40:54,279
Speaker 2: or Legos, but it's a nice adventure. And if you

861
00:40:54,320 --> 00:40:56,920
Speaker 2: like Robert, there's one called like this is pop Music?

862
00:40:57,640 --> 00:41:01,799
Speaker 2: Oh shirt episodes all about sweetish producers and Swedish hits

863
00:41:01,840 --> 00:41:04,440
Speaker 2: and why Sweden comes without with so many hits.

864
00:41:04,719 --> 00:41:07,120
Speaker 3: Oh, I've got to watch that. But what did you

865
00:41:07,200 --> 00:41:08,839
Speaker 3: learn from the San Rio documentary?

866
00:41:09,120 --> 00:41:12,000
Speaker 2: It's like tiny gift, lots of joy is how it

867
00:41:12,040 --> 00:41:14,399
Speaker 2: translates to her something, because I guess in Japan it's

868
00:41:14,400 --> 00:41:17,520
Speaker 2: like really cute, like customer to give little cute things

869
00:41:17,520 --> 00:41:20,080
Speaker 2: to people. Sure, and so this guy's like, I'm gonna

870
00:41:20,080 --> 00:41:23,840
Speaker 2: make cute shit and sell it. But there's ups and downs.

871
00:41:23,880 --> 00:41:25,560
Speaker 2: Is there a mouth? But she's not a cat, she's

872
00:41:25,600 --> 00:41:29,560
Speaker 2: a girl, and her name's like he kid. She's a girl.

873
00:41:29,800 --> 00:41:32,440
Speaker 2: She's not in a which way. She's like a girl

874
00:41:32,480 --> 00:41:34,600
Speaker 2: that looks like a kitten. She's not a cat. That's

875
00:41:34,640 --> 00:41:37,640
Speaker 2: why she does girly things. She likes the piano. And

876
00:41:37,680 --> 00:41:40,400
Speaker 2: then like they yeah and like the boom, and then

877
00:41:40,400 --> 00:41:42,520
Speaker 2: they lost money, and then they came back and now

878
00:41:42,640 --> 00:41:45,000
Speaker 2: I mean, Hello Kitty is here to stay. Like that's

879
00:41:45,040 --> 00:41:48,279
Speaker 2: gonna you know, like if you were to put a

880
00:41:48,400 --> 00:41:51,680
Speaker 2: vessel underground for the future, Hello Kitty would make it.

881
00:41:52,840 --> 00:41:57,359
Speaker 3: Well, I absolutely agree. I feel like Hello Kitty's popularity

882
00:41:57,400 --> 00:42:00,920
Speaker 3: is cyclical, like every maybe five ten years, it becomes

883
00:42:00,960 --> 00:42:04,799
Speaker 3: extremely popular is everywhere, and then it kind of quiets down,

884
00:42:04,880 --> 00:42:07,640
Speaker 3: but it doesn't ever fully go away, because I think

885
00:42:07,680 --> 00:42:11,080
Speaker 3: everyone loves Hello Kiddy, whether they admit it or not.

886
00:42:11,760 --> 00:42:14,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, I would get at tattoo. Honestly, I wanted a

887
00:42:14,760 --> 00:42:17,160
Speaker 2: cropy one, but I was like, I I hate, yeah,

888
00:42:17,200 --> 00:42:19,880
Speaker 2: I want. I have too many trademarked items already, But

889
00:42:20,360 --> 00:42:24,279
Speaker 2: I do love that. But I also it's the same

890
00:42:24,320 --> 00:42:27,040
Speaker 2: thing with like I'm wearing my Tiffany's bracelet from back

891
00:42:27,080 --> 00:42:29,319
Speaker 2: in the day. The coach is back, Like I just

892
00:42:29,360 --> 00:42:32,720
Speaker 2: think our crew we're in their thirties or in your thirties. Yes,

893
00:42:33,239 --> 00:42:35,400
Speaker 2: everything our parents didn't let us buy, we get to

894
00:42:35,400 --> 00:42:38,680
Speaker 2: buy it. Now it's back and we're just living our

895
00:42:38,760 --> 00:42:39,920
Speaker 2: teenage years again.

896
00:42:40,560 --> 00:42:43,239
Speaker 3: This is what I'll say about the thousands coming back.

897
00:42:43,480 --> 00:42:45,640
Speaker 3: There are some fun things, but then there's also the

898
00:42:45,719 --> 00:42:49,360
Speaker 3: trauma of middle school. It's like the wide leg genes,

899
00:42:49,600 --> 00:42:52,239
Speaker 3: the new metal, these kind of things. I don't want

900
00:42:52,280 --> 00:42:55,520
Speaker 3: to ever see these things again. I felt like culture,

901
00:42:56,560 --> 00:43:00,800
Speaker 3: popular culture in particular, really bottomed out from basically nineteen

902
00:43:00,840 --> 00:43:03,520
Speaker 3: ninety eight too about two thousand and three.

903
00:43:04,040 --> 00:43:07,719
Speaker 2: So to me, that's the height of my life. Like

904
00:43:08,200 --> 00:43:13,320
Speaker 2: Spice Girls, Britney Spears, the Backstreet Boys, legally blonde, mean girls.

905
00:43:13,360 --> 00:43:14,880
Speaker 2: These are the things they care about.

906
00:43:15,520 --> 00:43:17,879
Speaker 3: But you're naming the good, the things that were fun.

907
00:43:17,960 --> 00:43:21,240
Speaker 3: But then you think about kid rock, limp biscuit, corn,

908
00:43:21,719 --> 00:43:28,280
Speaker 3: wide leg jeans, oversized camouflage shirts. What are we talking?

909
00:43:28,400 --> 00:43:35,160
Speaker 3: Bowl cuts, bleached frosted tips. I could go on, I

910
00:43:35,200 --> 00:43:38,600
Speaker 3: could sell. Did you ever go to Gadzooks? No, I've

911
00:43:38,600 --> 00:43:39,920
Speaker 3: never been into gad zeks?

912
00:43:40,280 --> 00:43:44,080
Speaker 2: Was that kind of Spencer's Like, yeah, but Spencer's but clothing,

913
00:43:44,120 --> 00:43:47,040
Speaker 2: because I remember I bought gothic pants and my parents

914
00:43:47,200 --> 00:43:50,440
Speaker 2: sent me back to return them.

915
00:43:51,000 --> 00:43:52,600
Speaker 3: Your parents strict about what you wore.

916
00:43:53,440 --> 00:43:55,760
Speaker 2: They were not about to let me wear gothic pants.

917
00:43:55,840 --> 00:43:58,080
Speaker 2: I don't think they were strict, but that that took

918
00:43:58,080 --> 00:43:59,479
Speaker 2: them over the line for sure.

919
00:43:59,520 --> 00:44:01,720
Speaker 3: They like ray pants. Were they like super wide?

920
00:44:01,960 --> 00:44:05,000
Speaker 2: Yes, They're like, you're not dragging around these weird pants.

921
00:44:05,160 --> 00:44:08,920
Speaker 2: And I thank them for that. But lately my parents

922
00:44:08,920 --> 00:44:11,080
Speaker 2: have been shading me a little bit because they want

923
00:44:11,120 --> 00:44:14,640
Speaker 2: me to wear heels again, Like they're each of them separately.

924
00:44:14,640 --> 00:44:16,759
Speaker 2: Were like, so you don't even wear heels anymore, like

925
00:44:16,800 --> 00:44:19,080
Speaker 2: you used to wear heels. Oh, how things have changed.

926
00:44:19,160 --> 00:44:21,200
Speaker 2: I'm like, yeah, heels are done.

927
00:44:22,520 --> 00:44:25,239
Speaker 3: Are heels out as far as fashion goes right now?

928
00:44:25,440 --> 00:44:25,560
Speaker 1: No?

929
00:44:25,560 --> 00:44:29,080
Speaker 2: No, no, no. People are out their club people are wearing heels.

930
00:44:29,520 --> 00:44:32,799
Speaker 2: I'm gonna wear Adidas with short skirts like I don't.

931
00:44:32,840 --> 00:44:34,040
Speaker 2: I'm gonna wear sneakers.

932
00:44:34,360 --> 00:44:35,520
Speaker 3: You're gonna be comfortable.

933
00:44:35,840 --> 00:44:39,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, if I'm filming something fancy on television, I'll throw

934
00:44:39,440 --> 00:44:42,640
Speaker 2: on a boot heeled platform. I'm not wearing a heel.

935
00:44:42,680 --> 00:44:47,200
Speaker 2: I'm not It's feminine. I'm not being uncomfortable in any way.

936
00:44:47,480 --> 00:44:49,239
Speaker 3: Do you think your parents have got together and were

937
00:44:49,239 --> 00:44:53,640
Speaker 3: like we're concerned about Lisa's heel. Use like, why are

938
00:44:53,680 --> 00:44:55,520
Speaker 3: they both thinking about that in any way?

939
00:44:56,160 --> 00:45:01,640
Speaker 2: They just like have traditional gender things their head of,

940
00:45:01,760 --> 00:45:04,279
Speaker 2: like what things should be, And I'm kind of like

941
00:45:04,320 --> 00:45:07,439
Speaker 2: they're not their nightmare. They like me, but I'm just like, ah,

942
00:45:08,080 --> 00:45:13,040
Speaker 2: I think tattoos and sneakers confuse them. Sure, but I

943
00:45:13,040 --> 00:45:15,279
Speaker 2: wear dresses ninety percent of the time, So I'm like,

944
00:45:15,360 --> 00:45:17,520
Speaker 2: does this not count for anything? I'm a dress girl.

945
00:45:17,920 --> 00:45:21,200
Speaker 3: Tell him to lay off. I mean nobody. I mean,

946
00:45:21,200 --> 00:45:23,279
Speaker 3: how many people wear heels regularly.

947
00:45:23,440 --> 00:45:25,160
Speaker 2: It's but my dad will do weird that. He'll like

948
00:45:25,200 --> 00:45:27,000
Speaker 2: bring a funny vest and be like, maybe you can

949
00:45:27,040 --> 00:45:28,560
Speaker 2: wear this on stage.

950
00:45:28,480 --> 00:45:28,640
Speaker 1: Like.

951
00:45:31,600 --> 00:45:34,040
Speaker 3: You should do a tour where your parents dress you

952
00:45:34,080 --> 00:45:34,960
Speaker 3: for the entire thing.

953
00:45:35,320 --> 00:45:37,200
Speaker 2: I'll be uncomfortable, but like my mom, like I forgot

954
00:45:37,239 --> 00:45:39,080
Speaker 2: what photos we were going through, but it was like

955
00:45:39,840 --> 00:45:44,520
Speaker 2: I was wearing my patent letter, like fake patent leather,

956
00:45:44,640 --> 00:45:48,840
Speaker 2: hot pink Aldo heels like tiny little like that's not happening.

957
00:45:49,880 --> 00:45:53,200
Speaker 3: That sounds completely uncomfortable. I had one experience with Aldo

958
00:45:53,239 --> 00:45:55,279
Speaker 3: where they sold me a shoe that was so uncomfortable

959
00:45:55,320 --> 00:45:58,239
Speaker 3: and then the customer service was horrible. I vowed never

960
00:45:58,320 --> 00:46:02,240
Speaker 3: to return. That was two thousand and six, So you remember.

961
00:46:03,160 --> 00:46:06,120
Speaker 3: I remember. I remember, although and I will that I

962
00:46:06,719 --> 00:46:09,040
Speaker 3: It'll be the last thing I think about as I

963
00:46:09,200 --> 00:46:12,600
Speaker 3: go to the grave. I'll think what horrible customer service

964
00:46:12,680 --> 00:46:15,000
Speaker 3: Aldo had, and then I'll die.

965
00:46:15,200 --> 00:46:17,279
Speaker 2: Well, that's the circuit city of it all. If you

966
00:46:17,360 --> 00:46:20,640
Speaker 2: pay people a lot and they are passionate or they

967
00:46:20,719 --> 00:46:23,560
Speaker 2: will be motivated to learn about the products and be better.

968
00:46:24,239 --> 00:46:27,360
Speaker 2: But if your sales force is just like teens and

969
00:46:27,400 --> 00:46:31,440
Speaker 2: you're paying them six seven dollars, you're not getting good service.

970
00:46:31,960 --> 00:46:33,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a little bit the in and out where

971
00:46:33,960 --> 00:46:36,920
Speaker 3: their their employees are all very nice and do a

972
00:46:36,920 --> 00:46:39,040
Speaker 3: good job because I guess they pay them all, right.

973
00:46:39,280 --> 00:46:43,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, costco and in and out I hear good things.

974
00:46:43,600 --> 00:46:45,120
Speaker 3: It's just common sense.

975
00:46:46,239 --> 00:46:50,320
Speaker 2: It's not common here. No, it's not because the capitalists

976
00:46:50,360 --> 00:46:53,160
Speaker 2: rulemakers are always like this is logic, Like they don't

977
00:46:53,200 --> 00:46:56,240
Speaker 2: see it's their own but they think their beliefs are logic.

978
00:46:56,360 --> 00:46:58,840
Speaker 2: So it's like tough to penetrate well.

979
00:46:58,680 --> 00:47:01,040
Speaker 3: And once everything crumbles them, they'll just move on to

980
00:47:01,080 --> 00:47:02,279
Speaker 3: the next job to do it at.

981
00:47:02,280 --> 00:47:05,160
Speaker 2: They don't care, they don't They're just sociopaths. We're being

982
00:47:05,160 --> 00:47:07,040
Speaker 2: held a hostage by sociopaths.

983
00:47:07,080 --> 00:47:08,839
Speaker 3: We really are. It's a scary time.

984
00:47:09,440 --> 00:47:11,680
Speaker 2: Listen. I nailed it with the stickers.

985
00:47:12,840 --> 00:47:15,359
Speaker 3: I am so beyond thrill that I'm so glad that

986
00:47:15,560 --> 00:47:19,200
Speaker 3: I mean, bless Hello Kitty, Bless the gang. But I'm

987
00:47:19,280 --> 00:47:20,760
Speaker 3: basically in it for Kropi.

988
00:47:20,960 --> 00:47:21,319
Speaker 2: Me too.

989
00:47:21,920 --> 00:47:24,279
Speaker 3: I had a little money bank with bats Maru, who

990
00:47:24,440 --> 00:47:26,799
Speaker 3: was sitting on top of a pile of coins. I

991
00:47:26,840 --> 00:47:29,319
Speaker 3: probably it's probably still in my house somewhere from like

992
00:47:29,400 --> 00:47:34,240
Speaker 3: sixth grade. But that was my one, my one step

993
00:47:34,280 --> 00:47:38,040
Speaker 3: outside of the Karopi world. Okay, we have to play

994
00:47:38,040 --> 00:47:39,640
Speaker 3: a game. Do you want to play? There's a game

995
00:47:39,680 --> 00:47:41,680
Speaker 3: called Gifter or a Curse or there's a game called

996
00:47:41,680 --> 00:47:42,320
Speaker 3: Gift Master.

997
00:47:43,400 --> 00:47:46,120
Speaker 2: Well, gift or Curse I do on the on your Instagram.

998
00:47:46,120 --> 00:47:46,799
Speaker 2: I play the game.

999
00:47:46,920 --> 00:47:48,520
Speaker 3: Oh right, right, so.

1000
00:47:48,440 --> 00:47:51,800
Speaker 2: I've played the game, So but what is the other one?

1001
00:47:52,280 --> 00:47:55,600
Speaker 3: Gift Master is a game where I give you it's

1002
00:47:55,719 --> 00:47:58,320
Speaker 3: there's a you don't you can't win or lose as much.

1003
00:47:58,360 --> 00:48:00,880
Speaker 3: I tell you three types of gifts, three items this

1004
00:48:00,920 --> 00:48:03,359
Speaker 3: sort of thing, and then three celebrities who you would

1005
00:48:03,400 --> 00:48:05,879
Speaker 3: give them to, and you tell me who you'd give

1006
00:48:06,239 --> 00:48:07,040
Speaker 3: what and why.

1007
00:48:07,480 --> 00:48:09,839
Speaker 2: I like that. I like that. I mean I kind

1008
00:48:09,840 --> 00:48:10,840
Speaker 2: of want to play both.

1009
00:48:10,920 --> 00:48:13,399
Speaker 3: But I mean we could do you know, we could

1010
00:48:13,400 --> 00:48:15,239
Speaker 3: play this. I mean, we could record a four hour

1011
00:48:15,320 --> 00:48:19,280
Speaker 3: podcast here if you like. You know, the listener is screaming, Ridger,

1012
00:48:19,400 --> 00:48:23,359
Speaker 3: get off the microphone. But let's start with gift Master

1013
00:48:23,400 --> 00:48:25,440
Speaker 3: and if we're in the moon for another game, okay,

1014
00:48:25,600 --> 00:48:29,279
Speaker 3: it's our life gift Master. Ready, I need a number

1015
00:48:29,320 --> 00:48:32,560
Speaker 3: between one and ten seven. Okay, I have to do

1016
00:48:32,600 --> 00:48:35,120
Speaker 3: some like calculating right now. You have the microphone, you

1017
00:48:35,120 --> 00:48:37,799
Speaker 3: can recommend, you can promote, you can do whatever you want.

1018
00:48:37,840 --> 00:48:38,680
Speaker 3: I'll be right back.

1019
00:48:39,120 --> 00:48:42,920
Speaker 2: Okay, great. So I have a podcast called That's Messed Up,

1020
00:48:42,960 --> 00:48:48,360
Speaker 2: an SVU podcast. It's on the exactly Right network. Recently,

1021
00:48:48,440 --> 00:48:51,240
Speaker 2: I've enjoyed White Lotus. I thought that was great, written

1022
00:48:51,239 --> 00:48:54,640
Speaker 2: by Mike White, who was on Survivor, which I recommend

1023
00:48:54,680 --> 00:48:58,719
Speaker 2: a lot new seasons starting this fall in September, I

1024
00:48:58,760 --> 00:49:04,000
Speaker 2: would recommend. And I don't do I have nothing. I mean,

1025
00:49:04,040 --> 00:49:09,600
Speaker 2: I watched Clueless on the plane. I must Okay, thank god,

1026
00:49:09,719 --> 00:49:10,319
Speaker 2: I've ran out.

1027
00:49:10,880 --> 00:49:12,520
Speaker 3: There are so many things you recommended that I'm like,

1028
00:49:12,640 --> 00:49:14,279
Speaker 3: now I want to talk about all of those things.

1029
00:49:14,280 --> 00:49:17,640
Speaker 3: But again, we have to. We just started watching Survivor

1030
00:49:17,680 --> 00:49:19,680
Speaker 3: for the first time. I'm only twenty years behind, but

1031
00:49:19,719 --> 00:49:24,080
Speaker 3: I'm addicted immediately. Welcome White Lotus is so good, and

1032
00:49:24,200 --> 00:49:28,440
Speaker 3: of course that's messed up. Everyone should listen to. Okay,

1033
00:49:28,640 --> 00:49:31,520
Speaker 3: this is how the game works. I'm gonna name I've

1034
00:49:31,520 --> 00:49:35,080
Speaker 3: basically explained it already, but I'm gonna name three gifts.

1035
00:49:35,280 --> 00:49:37,919
Speaker 3: I'm gonna name three celebrities. You're gonna tell me which

1036
00:49:37,960 --> 00:49:41,200
Speaker 3: gift you'd give which celebrity and why. So here we go.

1037
00:49:41,400 --> 00:49:44,560
Speaker 3: The gifts you're gonna be giving today are Number one,

1038
00:49:45,200 --> 00:49:48,480
Speaker 3: ankle length hair, so hair that goes all the way

1039
00:49:48,520 --> 00:49:51,000
Speaker 3: to the person's ankles. It's a new look for them.

1040
00:49:51,719 --> 00:49:55,839
Speaker 3: Number two a water softener so that I actually can't

1041
00:49:55,920 --> 00:49:58,120
Speaker 3: quite explain. I've I've put it in the list. I

1042
00:49:58,160 --> 00:50:02,239
Speaker 3: know it does something to your water. Uh I, as

1043
00:50:02,280 --> 00:50:04,640
Speaker 3: far as I know, it's a better than hard water,

1044
00:50:04,880 --> 00:50:06,400
Speaker 3: but I don't know what the difference between.

1045
00:50:06,480 --> 00:50:09,360
Speaker 2: Learned that from like a Zest commercial was that the

1046
00:50:09,400 --> 00:50:11,360
Speaker 2: green soap like they always used to be like, not

1047
00:50:11,520 --> 00:50:15,319
Speaker 2: hard water like the soap brands just couldn't get enough.

1048
00:50:15,480 --> 00:50:17,000
Speaker 2: But I get it, Okay.

1049
00:50:17,000 --> 00:50:19,400
Speaker 3: I imagine it's better for your skin or something. I

1050
00:50:19,440 --> 00:50:22,120
Speaker 3: don't know. And then finally, the third gift you'll be

1051
00:50:22,120 --> 00:50:25,360
Speaker 3: giving today is Olympic fever, so you'll be giving the

1052
00:50:25,400 --> 00:50:28,560
Speaker 3: person kind of the thrill of wanting to watch the Olympics.

1053
00:50:28,760 --> 00:50:31,280
Speaker 2: Well, you like to know this. I saw Robin Roberts

1054
00:50:31,320 --> 00:50:33,880
Speaker 2: on my flight this week. Oh you're kidding, and she

1055
00:50:34,040 --> 00:50:36,920
Speaker 2: was wearing US Olympic merch top to bottom.

1056
00:50:38,520 --> 00:50:43,520
Speaker 3: She's got permanent Olympic fever. Yeah, that's an interesting move

1057
00:50:43,640 --> 00:50:46,840
Speaker 3: for her and for the entire plane. Everybody gets to

1058
00:50:46,920 --> 00:50:48,560
Speaker 3: kind of just wait, that's going on there.

1059
00:50:48,760 --> 00:50:51,719
Speaker 2: The woman in front of me was googling gayel and

1060
00:50:51,760 --> 00:50:53,840
Speaker 2: I had to be like, it's not gayl bitch.

1061
00:50:54,480 --> 00:50:55,480
Speaker 3: Did you tell the person?

1062
00:50:55,800 --> 00:50:58,360
Speaker 2: Of course not, but in my head I was like,

1063
00:50:59,320 --> 00:50:59,960
Speaker 2: I would.

1064
00:50:59,680 --> 00:51:02,680
Speaker 3: Love to hear from the seat behind me, it's not

1065
00:51:02,920 --> 00:51:08,560
Speaker 3: gayl bitch. If anyone ever talks to me on a plane,

1066
00:51:08,560 --> 00:51:12,359
Speaker 3: that's the only thing you're allowed to say to me. Okay,

1067
00:51:12,440 --> 00:51:14,920
Speaker 3: these are the three celebrities you'll be giving the gifts to.

1068
00:51:15,080 --> 00:51:17,759
Speaker 3: Number one Lizzo, who I think is probably gearing up

1069
00:51:17,760 --> 00:51:19,680
Speaker 3: for a new album or something. She's been out of

1070
00:51:19,719 --> 00:51:23,680
Speaker 3: the limelight for a minute. She's back. Number two doctor

1071
00:51:23,760 --> 00:51:29,880
Speaker 3: Oz number three Logan Paul. Now this is do you

1072
00:51:29,920 --> 00:51:33,799
Speaker 3: know who Logan Paul is. I know he's part of

1073
00:51:33,840 --> 00:51:37,880
Speaker 3: the Paul group. I picture kind of a scary looking

1074
00:51:37,920 --> 00:51:40,319
Speaker 3: arian YouTube star.

1075
00:51:40,680 --> 00:51:43,240
Speaker 2: Actually, he was on an episode of Lon Order SVU.

1076
00:51:43,760 --> 00:51:45,160
Speaker 3: Oh you're kidding. What did he play?

1077
00:51:45,640 --> 00:51:50,120
Speaker 2: He played an incel who gamer gate guy who kidnaps

1078
00:51:50,160 --> 00:51:53,560
Speaker 2: a woman who makes video games and does bad things.

1079
00:51:53,719 --> 00:51:57,799
Speaker 3: I have to see that. Oh well, then you you've

1080
00:51:57,800 --> 00:51:59,600
Speaker 3: got a decent idea of who he is.

1081
00:51:59,680 --> 00:52:02,759
Speaker 2: Then I'm going to give him ankle length hair immediately

1082
00:52:03,160 --> 00:52:06,480
Speaker 2: because I'm sick of him boxing. I'm sick of them

1083
00:52:06,480 --> 00:52:11,360
Speaker 2: making a mockery of the sport. I'm sick of this nonsense.

1084
00:52:11,440 --> 00:52:13,799
Speaker 2: And I feel with ankle length hair, he would not

1085
00:52:13,880 --> 00:52:15,520
Speaker 2: be able to fight in a ring.

1086
00:52:15,560 --> 00:52:18,439
Speaker 3: So I would love to see Logan Paul tripping around

1087
00:52:18,480 --> 00:52:21,560
Speaker 3: a boxing ring over his own hair, his own just

1088
00:52:21,719 --> 00:52:22,600
Speaker 3: shimmering hair.

1089
00:52:23,440 --> 00:52:25,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, so I'm trying to get him out of the game.

1090
00:52:26,280 --> 00:52:29,240
Speaker 3: Very good laser accuracy with that one.

1091
00:52:29,480 --> 00:52:33,080
Speaker 2: And then I'm going to give Lizzo Olympic fever because

1092
00:52:33,400 --> 00:52:37,200
Speaker 2: I think she would be fun to watch the events with,

1093
00:52:37,360 --> 00:52:39,319
Speaker 2: Like I would love to be in the stands of

1094
00:52:39,600 --> 00:52:42,960
Speaker 2: a swimming competition with her gymnastics anywhere. Really, I think

1095
00:52:42,960 --> 00:52:46,240
Speaker 2: we'd have a good time eating popcorn watching the games.

1096
00:52:46,320 --> 00:52:49,279
Speaker 2: So selfishly, i'd want her to have Olympic fever to

1097
00:52:49,880 --> 00:52:52,040
Speaker 2: and then I would watch the game with her, the games.

1098
00:52:51,800 --> 00:52:54,359
Speaker 3: With her, That makes sense. I feel like I could

1099
00:52:54,360 --> 00:52:57,880
Speaker 3: see her performing at an opening ceremony playing the flute.

1100
00:52:59,160 --> 00:53:01,839
Speaker 3: I feel like she's got a Olympic energy to begin with.

1101
00:53:02,080 --> 00:53:04,279
Speaker 2: Yeah, I've been in our lifetime. If the Olympics don't

1102
00:53:04,320 --> 00:53:07,880
Speaker 2: get canceled, should be Yeah, I think she would be

1103
00:53:07,920 --> 00:53:11,040
Speaker 2: able to perform there one year for the show, right, Right,

1104
00:53:12,239 --> 00:53:15,600
Speaker 2: And then I guess I'm giving Doctorraws a soft water

1105
00:53:15,760 --> 00:53:19,480
Speaker 2: machine because he's a health not he would love it,

1106
00:53:19,680 --> 00:53:23,200
Speaker 2: and it's a generic gift that you didn't put much

1107
00:53:23,200 --> 00:53:26,160
Speaker 2: thought into because I don't care about him.

1108
00:53:25,600 --> 00:53:27,439
Speaker 3: Right, I think that makes perfect sense.

1109
00:53:27,800 --> 00:53:29,919
Speaker 2: Oh, you like health here. I found this at bed bath,

1110
00:53:29,960 --> 00:53:32,960
Speaker 2: And beyond the gift for seats attached.

1111
00:53:35,040 --> 00:53:38,280
Speaker 3: I can imagine he's going to at some point circle

1112
00:53:38,560 --> 00:53:43,560
Speaker 3: around to hot water soft water machines and try to,

1113
00:53:43,600 --> 00:53:46,160
Speaker 3: you know, kind of hawk those as the new solution

1114
00:53:46,280 --> 00:53:49,520
Speaker 3: to something. He's always got something that doesn't quite work

1115
00:53:49,560 --> 00:53:53,600
Speaker 3: for what Actually, the actual problem is I can see

1116
00:53:53,680 --> 00:53:56,440
Speaker 3: him going with soft waters like this will cure cancer?

1117
00:53:56,560 --> 00:53:58,759
Speaker 2: What have you? That was a fun game.

1118
00:53:59,400 --> 00:54:01,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, it is a fun game. And I appreciate you

1119
00:54:01,640 --> 00:54:04,600
Speaker 3: saying that there's a home version listener. The listener should

1120
00:54:04,600 --> 00:54:06,800
Speaker 3: know I made a home version of the game that

1121
00:54:06,840 --> 00:54:08,440
Speaker 3: you can buy online and it's.

1122
00:54:08,239 --> 00:54:10,840
Speaker 2: Delightful, entrepreneurial spirit.

1123
00:54:11,320 --> 00:54:14,480
Speaker 3: Yes, now, Lisa, I mean we've never played two games

1124
00:54:14,480 --> 00:54:17,000
Speaker 3: on this podcast before. Do you want to play another game?

1125
00:54:17,239 --> 00:54:17,439
Speaker 2: Yes?

1126
00:54:17,800 --> 00:54:19,480
Speaker 3: I would like to go. For some sort of record,

1127
00:54:19,600 --> 00:54:22,480
Speaker 3: we do have to answer at least one listener message.

1128
00:54:22,760 --> 00:54:23,439
Speaker 3: Do you have the time?

1129
00:54:24,000 --> 00:54:24,600
Speaker 2: I have the time.

1130
00:54:24,840 --> 00:54:26,960
Speaker 3: Okay, we're gonna play Gift or a Curse. This is

1131
00:54:27,080 --> 00:54:31,920
Speaker 3: truly unprecedented and I am thrilled beyond belief. Okay, I

1132
00:54:32,400 --> 00:54:34,480
Speaker 3: need another number from you between one and ten.

1133
00:54:34,719 --> 00:54:37,520
Speaker 2: I'm gonna do another classic number and go with three.

1134
00:54:38,280 --> 00:54:41,480
Speaker 3: Okay, we're gonna I'm gonna do this quickly because.

1135
00:54:41,200 --> 00:54:44,760
Speaker 2: You know, I'm being a menace, being a menace, demanding,

1136
00:54:44,800 --> 00:54:46,480
Speaker 2: but you know you don't get what you don't ask for,

1137
00:54:46,600 --> 00:54:48,239
Speaker 2: and sometimes you got to ask and be like, I

1138
00:54:48,280 --> 00:54:50,960
Speaker 2: want a few games because I love games. But in

1139
00:54:51,000 --> 00:54:54,040
Speaker 2: social situations when You're like, is anyone ready for heads up?

1140
00:54:54,120 --> 00:54:54,319
Speaker 1: Yet?

1141
00:54:54,440 --> 00:54:56,240
Speaker 2: People get so upset.

1142
00:54:57,760 --> 00:55:01,040
Speaker 3: Okay, I've done an excellent job. This is how gift

1143
00:55:01,120 --> 00:55:03,040
Speaker 3: or a curse works. Oh you know, I'll name a thing.

1144
00:55:03,120 --> 00:55:04,560
Speaker 3: You tell me if it's a gift or a curse,

1145
00:55:04,600 --> 00:55:08,319
Speaker 3: and why there are correct answers so you can win

1146
00:55:08,480 --> 00:55:10,880
Speaker 3: or lose this game or get a you know, a

1147
00:55:10,920 --> 00:55:14,200
Speaker 3: bad grade. Okay, So yeah this the steaks have suddenly

1148
00:55:14,280 --> 00:55:16,640
Speaker 3: ratcheted up to a level that's going to cause you

1149
00:55:16,680 --> 00:55:20,239
Speaker 3: a great deal of stress. Okay. Number one gift her

1150
00:55:20,280 --> 00:55:22,240
Speaker 3: a curse. Gravy.

1151
00:55:23,160 --> 00:55:23,640
Speaker 2: Gravy.

1152
00:55:24,360 --> 00:55:28,800
Speaker 3: Gravy as in the sauce category. That's you know, usually

1153
00:55:28,800 --> 00:55:31,279
Speaker 3: I feel like most people think of gravy as maybe

1154
00:55:31,320 --> 00:55:33,680
Speaker 3: a brown, fatty thing.

1155
00:55:33,760 --> 00:55:36,919
Speaker 2: I'm going, yes, I think it's I think it's a gift. Ah.

1156
00:55:36,960 --> 00:55:40,160
Speaker 2: Why well, if something doesn't taste good, you can wet

1157
00:55:40,200 --> 00:55:43,520
Speaker 2: it up, make it better. Anything that's greasy or fatty

1158
00:55:43,600 --> 00:55:46,200
Speaker 2: is delicious. I didn't grow up with it, and for

1159
00:55:46,360 --> 00:55:48,480
Speaker 2: years I'd be like, no gravy, no gravy, no gravy.

1160
00:55:48,560 --> 00:55:51,400
Speaker 2: And then once it's snuck in, You're like, this is nice.

1161
00:55:54,320 --> 00:55:57,319
Speaker 3: Liza, You're right, of course, I love I mean I

1162
00:55:57,320 --> 00:55:58,920
Speaker 3: can't remember the last time I had gravy. But you

1163
00:55:58,960 --> 00:56:00,759
Speaker 3: put that on mashed potato. As you put it on,

1164
00:56:00,960 --> 00:56:04,640
Speaker 3: you know, Thanksgiving, you've got the gravy. Also, gravy can

1165
00:56:04,960 --> 00:56:07,160
Speaker 3: reach as far as a tomato sauce. You know a

1166
00:56:07,160 --> 00:56:09,920
Speaker 3: lot of you know, Italians called the red sauce gravy.

1167
00:56:10,360 --> 00:56:13,399
Speaker 3: So I love a gravy and I have nothing bad

1168
00:56:13,400 --> 00:56:17,840
Speaker 3: to say about it. It's never it's so infrequently in

1169
00:56:17,840 --> 00:56:20,359
Speaker 3: my life that I can't complain that it's like too much.

1170
00:56:21,040 --> 00:56:25,279
Speaker 3: You know, gravy. The word gravy alone is indicates good

1171
00:56:25,400 --> 00:56:26,800
Speaker 3: things too much.

1172
00:56:27,080 --> 00:56:29,520
Speaker 2: I love it, and I like a gravy boat.

1173
00:56:29,960 --> 00:56:34,480
Speaker 3: Oh, of course, how many items demand their own little boat.

1174
00:56:35,640 --> 00:56:38,200
Speaker 3: I feel like every I mean, every food should have

1175
00:56:38,200 --> 00:56:41,400
Speaker 3: a boat. Should have a bread boat. You should have

1176
00:56:41,440 --> 00:56:45,040
Speaker 3: your cheese boat. The table should be littered with boats.

1177
00:56:45,200 --> 00:56:48,279
Speaker 3: But I can't get everything I want. I'm thinking a

1178
00:56:48,280 --> 00:56:50,560
Speaker 3: gravy boat. Oh, a caso boat.

1179
00:56:50,880 --> 00:56:51,680
Speaker 2: Incredible.

1180
00:56:52,680 --> 00:56:55,360
Speaker 3: Oh to just pour keso over whatever you want.

1181
00:56:55,840 --> 00:56:57,080
Speaker 2: I'm getting hungry.

1182
00:56:57,160 --> 00:57:01,640
Speaker 3: Oh, good grief, caso. There's another wonderful thing. Okay, you've

1183
00:57:01,640 --> 00:57:05,200
Speaker 3: got one so far. Next up, this is a listener suggestion.

1184
00:57:05,280 --> 00:57:10,520
Speaker 3: Someone named Mackenzie has written and suggested platform sneakers gift

1185
00:57:10,600 --> 00:57:11,040
Speaker 3: or a curse.

1186
00:57:12,280 --> 00:57:18,160
Speaker 2: Platform sneakers, yes, so, but not the elevated wedge ones

1187
00:57:18,200 --> 00:57:19,120
Speaker 2: like a platform.

1188
00:57:19,680 --> 00:57:23,480
Speaker 3: It sounds like yeah, almost, you know, we're thinking Ginger Spice.

1189
00:57:23,160 --> 00:57:27,520
Speaker 2: Were gift gift, gift gift, and why Well, I love

1190
00:57:27,560 --> 00:57:31,960
Speaker 2: Ginger Spice, I love a platform. I hate a wedge sneaker,

1191
00:57:32,880 --> 00:57:37,480
Speaker 2: but I love the converse platform. I love. Yeah, be

1192
00:57:37,520 --> 00:57:40,080
Speaker 2: a little taller, be comfortable. But it's a little dressed up.

1193
00:57:40,160 --> 00:57:43,320
Speaker 2: And the Spice girls they've done nothing wrong ever, Like

1194
00:57:44,560 --> 00:57:48,000
Speaker 2: what about breaking up? It was frustrating, But it's like

1195
00:57:48,120 --> 00:57:51,200
Speaker 2: Victoria Beca. Maybe we just needed that clothing line. I

1196
00:57:51,240 --> 00:57:55,280
Speaker 2: don't know. And she had so many fucking kids. I

1197
00:57:55,320 --> 00:58:01,479
Speaker 2: mean she has so many kids. Yes, how many kids?

1198
00:58:02,040 --> 00:58:03,600
Speaker 2: She has like four or five kids.

1199
00:58:03,840 --> 00:58:06,240
Speaker 3: Wow, that's a decent amount of kids for a Spice girl.

1200
00:58:06,320 --> 00:58:10,360
Speaker 2: Yeah. Brooklyn Cruse, Romeo Harper, I think, yeah.

1201
00:58:10,160 --> 00:58:14,200
Speaker 3: I think before she is a menace with those names. Okay,

1202
00:58:14,520 --> 00:58:15,600
Speaker 3: Vicky reach out, But.

1203
00:58:15,600 --> 00:58:18,040
Speaker 2: She was the first. That's the thing she did Brooklyn

1204
00:58:18,080 --> 00:58:19,240
Speaker 2: before everyone like.

1205
00:58:19,400 --> 00:58:23,160
Speaker 3: She said she was the first. Right has she ever

1206
00:58:23,200 --> 00:58:24,680
Speaker 3: been to Brooklyn? Is the big question?

1207
00:58:24,720 --> 00:58:27,760
Speaker 2: I think the story is that he was conceived in Brooklyn,

1208
00:58:27,920 --> 00:58:28,440
Speaker 2: and that's.

1209
00:58:28,240 --> 00:58:29,560
Speaker 3: Why I did it interesting.

1210
00:58:29,880 --> 00:58:31,160
Speaker 2: I hope I'm not making that up.

1211
00:58:32,040 --> 00:58:35,400
Speaker 3: I mean, I hope you are spreading a little lie

1212
00:58:35,480 --> 00:58:36,520
Speaker 3: about old Vicky B.

1213
00:58:37,040 --> 00:58:40,000
Speaker 2: I'm scared that I didn't get a point on this one.

1214
00:58:40,360 --> 00:58:43,400
Speaker 3: Well, nothing to be scared of. You got it right.

1215
00:58:43,880 --> 00:58:46,400
Speaker 3: I think a platform sneaker. You know, they come in

1216
00:58:46,440 --> 00:58:49,000
Speaker 3: and out of style. When they're in style, they look great.

1217
00:58:49,040 --> 00:58:51,400
Speaker 3: Everyone loves them. Wh they're out of style, they look hilarious.

1218
00:58:51,440 --> 00:58:54,400
Speaker 3: Everyone loves them. There's no like. I don't see any problem.

1219
00:58:54,440 --> 00:58:56,840
Speaker 3: There's no downside with the platform sneaker. I would love

1220
00:58:56,880 --> 00:58:59,360
Speaker 3: to as a short person. Maybe I need a pair?

1221
00:58:59,760 --> 00:59:00,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, yes.

1222
00:59:01,720 --> 00:59:04,680
Speaker 3: This is another listener of suggestion from someone named Lizzie

1223
00:59:05,320 --> 00:59:08,520
Speaker 3: Gift or a curse. Staying in an Airbnb in an

1224
00:59:08,640 --> 00:59:13,120
Speaker 3: international location Gift and.

1225
00:59:13,040 --> 00:59:16,400
Speaker 2: Why, Well, I bet it's cheap. Like if you go

1226
00:59:16,480 --> 00:59:18,720
Speaker 2: to Puerto Rico or the Bahamas or somewhere like a

1227
00:59:18,760 --> 00:59:21,840
Speaker 2: real housewife and get an airbnb right on the right

1228
00:59:21,880 --> 00:59:24,560
Speaker 2: on the water, you get privacy, maybe an outdoor shower.

1229
00:59:25,440 --> 00:59:28,720
Speaker 2: It's nice. I can't imagine it not being nice. I

1230
00:59:28,800 --> 00:59:31,000
Speaker 2: was in Edinburgh. I stayed for a month in a

1231
00:59:31,040 --> 00:59:35,800
Speaker 2: lovely apartment with Emmy Blotnik and it felt it felt nice.

1232
00:59:35,920 --> 00:59:38,320
Speaker 2: I liked it. I think it's good. I understand where

1233
00:59:38,360 --> 00:59:42,080
Speaker 2: this person might be coming from. Where it's like, fuck,

1234
00:59:42,160 --> 00:59:44,760
Speaker 2: we're in England and the two sinks, or like things

1235
00:59:44,800 --> 00:59:47,200
Speaker 2: are different or something is shitty and we don't have

1236
00:59:47,280 --> 00:59:50,280
Speaker 2: the language to discuss it with this person. But yeah,

1237
00:59:50,280 --> 00:59:51,880
Speaker 2: same with my sister and or family. They stayed in

1238
00:59:51,880 --> 00:59:55,440
Speaker 2: this beautiful place. It's adventurous. I've been down for adventure

1239
00:59:55,760 --> 00:59:58,240
Speaker 2: and house. Yes, yes, gift.

1240
00:59:59,040 --> 01:00:04,080
Speaker 3: Liza, I know, I know you got it. Ah, it's

1241
01:00:04,080 --> 01:00:07,320
Speaker 3: a gift, I think. And this kind of goes into

1242
01:00:07,320 --> 01:00:08,760
Speaker 3: my platform shoe logic.

1243
01:00:08,800 --> 01:00:08,960
Speaker 1: You know.

1244
01:00:09,000 --> 01:00:11,200
Speaker 3: Sometimes it is a bad situation. We did go to

1245
01:00:11,240 --> 01:00:13,240
Speaker 3: London and stayed with a woman named Labette, and it

1246
01:00:13,320 --> 01:00:17,040
Speaker 3: was a disaster. Her friend died while we were staying

1247
01:00:17,040 --> 01:00:20,560
Speaker 3: with her. She was extremely drunk. There was a family

1248
01:00:21,040 --> 01:00:24,480
Speaker 3: of probably eight in the room next to ours, all smokers.

1249
01:00:24,880 --> 01:00:27,800
Speaker 3: There were ants. It was you know, it was not

1250
01:00:28,000 --> 01:00:31,360
Speaker 3: as advertised. Labette had a full emotional breakdown while we

1251
01:00:31,360 --> 01:00:31,760
Speaker 3: were there.

1252
01:00:32,280 --> 01:00:33,760
Speaker 2: You had a white Lotus moment.

1253
01:00:34,320 --> 01:00:36,800
Speaker 3: It was an experience. Yeah, it was a total white load.

1254
01:00:36,920 --> 01:00:39,720
Speaker 3: Like I'll remember La Bette for the rest of my life.

1255
01:00:40,280 --> 01:00:42,440
Speaker 3: And then I I you know, when I went to Japan,

1256
01:00:42,520 --> 01:00:45,200
Speaker 3: I stayed exclusively in airbnbs. They were so much cheaper,

1257
01:00:46,040 --> 01:00:48,360
Speaker 3: and you get to stay in the neighborhoods. It's nice.

1258
01:00:48,440 --> 01:00:50,640
Speaker 3: I mean, look, you got to be of course, you

1259
01:00:50,640 --> 01:00:54,600
Speaker 3: have to be careful. And but even if you're a

1260
01:00:54,600 --> 01:00:56,680
Speaker 3: little loosey goosey like me, you'll end up with maybe

1261
01:00:56,720 --> 01:00:59,600
Speaker 3: a labet and you'll get to experience and the owner

1262
01:00:59,640 --> 01:01:00,880
Speaker 3: of an air b andb's.

1263
01:01:00,600 --> 01:01:06,480
Speaker 2: Grief and you challenge your relationship and you come out stronger,

1264
01:01:07,040 --> 01:01:07,600
Speaker 2: of course.

1265
01:01:08,280 --> 01:01:10,720
Speaker 3: So it's really I mean a win win no matter

1266
01:01:10,760 --> 01:01:14,000
Speaker 3: what you do. Lisa, you've just become only the third

1267
01:01:14,240 --> 01:01:17,640
Speaker 3: winner in I said no gifts history to win, gift

1268
01:01:17,720 --> 01:01:18,160
Speaker 3: or a curse?

1269
01:01:18,400 --> 01:01:19,480
Speaker 2: Am I in good company?

1270
01:01:20,120 --> 01:01:24,680
Speaker 3: You're in very good company. You've got Naomi Peagan. Wow,

1271
01:01:24,880 --> 01:01:27,800
Speaker 3: she was the original winner. Ed then I unfortunately am

1272
01:01:27,840 --> 01:01:32,000
Speaker 3: forgetting number two. It's okay for that person, God bless them.

1273
01:01:32,400 --> 01:01:34,280
Speaker 2: Naomi is fun. That's exciting.

1274
01:01:34,600 --> 01:01:37,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, she nailed it. You know some people just get

1275
01:01:37,400 --> 01:01:40,960
Speaker 3: it and listener as Lisa, look at me just promoting

1276
01:01:40,960 --> 01:01:43,440
Speaker 3: things on the Instagram. You can go play, you post

1277
01:01:43,480 --> 01:01:45,680
Speaker 3: your own things you tag I said no gifts. Then

1278
01:01:45,720 --> 01:01:47,440
Speaker 3: we all get to vote on them. It's a delightful

1279
01:01:47,480 --> 01:01:50,520
Speaker 3: Instagram game. Put up the things that you want to

1280
01:01:50,560 --> 01:01:53,000
Speaker 3: see if it's a gift or a curse, and will vote.

1281
01:01:53,400 --> 01:01:55,200
Speaker 3: I hope that was a good explanation. I don't like

1282
01:01:55,240 --> 01:01:59,000
Speaker 3: to explain things. Finally, we're gonna move on now. You know,

1283
01:01:59,040 --> 01:02:00,919
Speaker 3: we've taken a lot of time here, Liza, and youve

1284
01:02:01,040 --> 01:02:02,880
Speaker 3: got generous with your time. We're going to do it.

1285
01:02:03,000 --> 01:02:04,160
Speaker 2: We got to help the public.

1286
01:02:05,120 --> 01:02:07,520
Speaker 3: This is called I said no emails. People write into

1287
01:02:07,600 --> 01:02:09,840
Speaker 3: I said no gifts at gmail dot com with their

1288
01:02:09,880 --> 01:02:14,200
Speaker 3: gift questions, you know, their general questions about manners, this

1289
01:02:14,320 --> 01:02:16,520
Speaker 3: kind of thing, and I try to talk them through it.

1290
01:02:16,600 --> 01:02:18,520
Speaker 3: My guest tries to talk them through it, and then

1291
01:02:18,560 --> 01:02:22,200
Speaker 3: we ultimately succeed. So let's do a short one here,

1292
01:02:22,240 --> 01:02:25,400
Speaker 3: because we have taken a lot of time, and you know,

1293
01:02:25,560 --> 01:02:27,480
Speaker 3: the first one I've got dialed up here is literally

1294
01:02:27,520 --> 01:02:30,800
Speaker 3: like it looks like a book proposal. There fifty paragraphs.

1295
01:02:31,040 --> 01:02:33,200
Speaker 3: I can't read that. Right now, We're going to do

1296
01:02:33,240 --> 01:02:36,200
Speaker 3: this nice short one and this is maybe the shortest

1297
01:02:36,200 --> 01:02:39,160
Speaker 3: one I've ever seen. It says hybridger My parents helped

1298
01:02:39,160 --> 01:02:44,360
Speaker 3: me twenty six move. Oh sorry in parentheses twenty six

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01:02:44,520 --> 01:02:47,600
Speaker 3: she her move recently, I would like to give them

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01:02:47,600 --> 01:02:49,919
Speaker 3: a gift to show appreciation for all the help. Looking

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01:02:49,960 --> 01:02:52,880
Speaker 3: to spend around fifty to one hundred dollars best a fan.

1302
01:02:53,240 --> 01:02:56,360
Speaker 3: Now she's left her name out so she won't Apparently

1303
01:02:56,440 --> 01:02:58,560
Speaker 3: this is a sensitive subject because she doesn't want mom

1304
01:02:58,600 --> 01:03:00,640
Speaker 3: and dad to find out that she's reaching out to

1305
01:03:00,680 --> 01:03:04,200
Speaker 3: podcasts for gift help. And that's fine. She's twenty six,

1306
01:03:04,480 --> 01:03:07,640
Speaker 3: she's living it up. The parents have helped. What do

1307
01:03:07,680 --> 01:03:09,240
Speaker 3: you give this? What do you give them?

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Speaker 2: Fifty to one hundred is a great price, and usually

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01:03:12,160 --> 01:03:16,240
Speaker 2: I'm very anti gift certificate, but I think with parents,

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01:03:16,360 --> 01:03:19,840
Speaker 2: like money to a nice restaurant in the neighborhood, a

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01:03:19,920 --> 01:03:24,040
Speaker 2: dinner out, like maybe theater tickets to a local production.

1312
01:03:24,240 --> 01:03:26,080
Speaker 2: I don't know what's happening in the world with COVID

1313
01:03:26,120 --> 01:03:29,600
Speaker 2: and stuff, but because parents don't want my like, I'm

1314
01:03:29,600 --> 01:03:32,400
Speaker 2: thinking it might be cute, Like I remember one time

1315
01:03:32,440 --> 01:03:36,160
Speaker 2: someone did movie tickets with like snacks and little things

1316
01:03:36,200 --> 01:03:40,520
Speaker 2: like I like, maybe an experience, maybe a bunch of breads, cheeses,

1317
01:03:40,880 --> 01:03:43,520
Speaker 2: something to enjoy that your parents. But I don't know them,

1318
01:03:43,560 --> 01:03:46,800
Speaker 2: but that's what I'm that's that was my my initial instinct.

1319
01:03:46,880 --> 01:03:49,640
Speaker 2: But I will keep thinking while you think.

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Speaker 3: That's a really nice initial thank you instinct where it's

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01:03:52,680 --> 01:03:55,640
Speaker 3: just something they get to enjoy. There's no you know,

1322
01:03:56,040 --> 01:03:59,440
Speaker 3: you hopefully know mom and dad's preferences as far as

1323
01:03:59,480 --> 01:04:03,240
Speaker 3: food go or their theater preference. Is this kind of thing.

1324
01:04:03,560 --> 01:04:05,479
Speaker 3: All that said, I say, split it right down the middle.

1325
01:04:05,560 --> 01:04:07,960
Speaker 3: Get them eat your gift card to Supercuts. They can

1326
01:04:08,000 --> 01:04:11,320
Speaker 3: go get matching haircuts. That's just top of my head.

1327
01:04:11,600 --> 01:04:14,920
Speaker 3: So that's Look, you've got two options already. But I mean,

1328
01:04:14,920 --> 01:04:15,640
Speaker 3: we can keep thinking.

1329
01:04:15,760 --> 01:04:19,280
Speaker 2: We're edible if they're like a partier, if they're like

1330
01:04:19,360 --> 01:04:24,000
Speaker 2: to get down a bottle of something, you know, cheers

1331
01:04:24,040 --> 01:04:26,320
Speaker 2: to you guys, enjoy like if they moved her out

1332
01:04:26,320 --> 01:04:28,360
Speaker 2: of her play you know it's like enjoy this or

1333
01:04:28,360 --> 01:04:31,200
Speaker 2: some edibles if they like to party in that way too.

1334
01:04:31,720 --> 01:04:34,280
Speaker 3: Right, Very yeah, a bottle of something is very is

1335
01:04:34,320 --> 01:04:36,760
Speaker 3: a nice traditional thank you gift.

1336
01:04:37,240 --> 01:04:39,400
Speaker 2: And then for me for my mom, I don't know

1337
01:04:39,440 --> 01:04:41,640
Speaker 2: if this is a dad that like I always I

1338
01:04:41,680 --> 01:04:44,959
Speaker 2: love the store coming soon, like a really chic fun

1339
01:04:45,120 --> 01:04:47,840
Speaker 2: house sware or a game they could play together batgammon

1340
01:04:47,920 --> 01:04:49,520
Speaker 2: and then they can learn batgammon together.

1341
01:04:50,200 --> 01:04:53,680
Speaker 3: Oh, now you're hitting on something interesting, which is there's

1342
01:04:54,080 --> 01:04:55,920
Speaker 3: you know, there's probably gonna be a little bit of

1343
01:04:56,000 --> 01:04:58,560
Speaker 3: coldness at home. Mom and dad have probably grown apart

1344
01:04:58,600 --> 01:05:01,640
Speaker 3: over the years and suddenly the daughter has gone missing

1345
01:05:02,000 --> 01:05:04,120
Speaker 3: and they have to deal with each other. So a

1346
01:05:04,200 --> 01:05:06,520
Speaker 3: game or something that can kind of bring them together

1347
01:05:06,560 --> 01:05:10,840
Speaker 3: in a nice way. Look, here's me promoting again. Send

1348
01:05:10,880 --> 01:05:12,280
Speaker 3: them gift, mester.

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01:05:13,480 --> 01:05:16,560
Speaker 2: Yes, I think game and then if they're gonna spend

1350
01:05:16,600 --> 01:05:19,560
Speaker 2: time at home like one of those heated foot massage

1351
01:05:19,600 --> 01:05:23,440
Speaker 2: or things are but that's the heated foot massage or

1352
01:05:23,480 --> 01:05:25,760
Speaker 2: a neck like a thing to massage while they sit.

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01:05:26,240 --> 01:05:29,160
Speaker 3: Right and kind of just in silence and think about

1354
01:05:29,160 --> 01:05:32,640
Speaker 3: how their marriage has fallen, is falling apart day by day.

1355
01:05:32,800 --> 01:05:36,000
Speaker 3: What about sending them a cardboard cutout of you? That's fine,

1356
01:05:36,080 --> 01:05:38,439
Speaker 3: it feels like kind of a kitchy fun thing. I'm

1357
01:05:38,480 --> 01:05:42,400
Speaker 3: missing you're missing me, and they can put it wherever

1358
01:05:42,400 --> 01:05:42,800
Speaker 3: they want.

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01:05:42,960 --> 01:05:45,600
Speaker 2: It's a sensitive thing for me because my ex did

1360
01:05:45,640 --> 01:05:48,840
Speaker 2: send me a cardboard cutout of herself when she couldn't

1361
01:05:48,840 --> 01:05:51,160
Speaker 2: make it to my birthday and then dumped me. About

1362
01:05:51,280 --> 01:05:52,400
Speaker 2: nine days later.

1363
01:05:52,640 --> 01:05:54,760
Speaker 3: Oh you're kidding. Well, that's a weird move.

1364
01:05:55,000 --> 01:05:58,439
Speaker 2: So I had this giant cut cardboard of her while

1365
01:05:58,560 --> 01:06:00,840
Speaker 2: she was like, I'm over this.

1366
01:06:01,320 --> 01:06:02,720
Speaker 3: What did you do with the cardboard?

1367
01:06:04,080 --> 01:06:06,480
Speaker 2: California? I was in New York. Now I don't know who.

1368
01:06:06,560 --> 01:06:08,200
Speaker 2: I don't know if her friend took it or who

1369
01:06:08,200 --> 01:06:09,520
Speaker 2: has it, or if it's in the tray. I have

1370
01:06:09,520 --> 01:06:10,240
Speaker 2: no idea.

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01:06:10,520 --> 01:06:14,840
Speaker 3: I hope it's decomposing somewhere. Yeah, that's a real weird move.

1372
01:06:16,080 --> 01:06:19,080
Speaker 3: Nine days out from a breakup to send that that,

1373
01:06:19,320 --> 01:06:22,160
Speaker 3: it's like even, I mean not. It takes a lot

1374
01:06:22,160 --> 01:06:24,600
Speaker 3: of time and effort. I imagine to get a cardboard

1375
01:06:24,600 --> 01:06:28,120
Speaker 3: cutout of yourself. Obviously the breakup was on your mind,

1376
01:06:28,200 --> 01:06:31,120
Speaker 3: unless it was a split like last second decision.

1377
01:06:31,480 --> 01:06:34,520
Speaker 2: No, she brub She decided I got us a hotel room.

1378
01:06:34,560 --> 01:06:36,720
Speaker 2: It was like over eight hundred a night. Like the

1379
01:06:36,840 --> 01:06:37,880
Speaker 2: wife was gorgeous.

1380
01:06:37,880 --> 01:06:38,720
Speaker 3: What are you doing?

1381
01:06:39,280 --> 01:06:41,840
Speaker 2: It was like the whole one, whole wall is glass.

1382
01:06:41,920 --> 01:06:44,560
Speaker 2: You see all of Manhattan. It's gorgeous. And that's where

1383
01:06:44,600 --> 01:06:46,560
Speaker 2: she decided to be like is this really gonna work?

1384
01:06:46,600 --> 01:06:51,640
Speaker 2: And I'm like not in the room, it're devastating, don't

1385
01:06:51,640 --> 01:06:56,640
Speaker 2: do it? Here, but anyways, yeah, so that might be

1386
01:06:57,640 --> 01:06:59,200
Speaker 2: a game a foot massage.

1387
01:07:00,120 --> 01:07:03,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, you're the options are almost endless with parents who

1388
01:07:04,040 --> 01:07:08,680
Speaker 3: I can I have already assumed have grown tired of

1389
01:07:08,680 --> 01:07:09,000
Speaker 3: each other.

1390
01:07:09,000 --> 01:07:11,400
Speaker 2: But I like the cardboard cutout, cardboard cutout, well, a

1391
01:07:11,480 --> 01:07:15,120
Speaker 2: framed thing or yeah that's like cheesy parent though, like

1392
01:07:15,160 --> 01:07:17,560
Speaker 2: a framed thing of the family together.

1393
01:07:18,120 --> 01:07:20,640
Speaker 3: Right, how about just a nice photo of yourself to

1394
01:07:20,640 --> 01:07:21,000
Speaker 3: hang on.

1395
01:07:20,960 --> 01:07:23,720
Speaker 2: The fridge, not fifty to one hundred dollars.

1396
01:07:23,360 --> 01:07:26,280
Speaker 3: Though, well, I'm talking about one hundred dollars photo that

1397
01:07:27,080 --> 01:07:29,120
Speaker 3: for some reason it costs one hundred dollars, either you

1398
01:07:29,200 --> 01:07:31,680
Speaker 3: got ripped off or it's printed on you know, gold,

1399
01:07:32,400 --> 01:07:34,960
Speaker 3: Maybe it's a magnet bridge magnet with you on it.

1400
01:07:35,000 --> 01:07:36,800
Speaker 3: That's just a tiny thing that goes along with the

1401
01:07:36,800 --> 01:07:38,680
Speaker 3: food or the theater tickets.

1402
01:07:38,800 --> 01:07:41,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, like if they're food, or even just like a

1403
01:07:41,040 --> 01:07:44,120
Speaker 2: sexy ass food basket with delicious things, like who doesn't

1404
01:07:44,160 --> 01:07:46,600
Speaker 2: like to open a basket and be like oh yeah, yum, Like.

1405
01:07:46,880 --> 01:07:49,720
Speaker 3: Of course that's always fun. I feel like that's the

1406
01:07:49,760 --> 01:07:55,240
Speaker 3: go to and then you know, of course, the super

1407
01:07:55,280 --> 01:07:57,880
Speaker 3: cut skiff cards are always there if you can't find

1408
01:07:57,920 --> 01:08:04,040
Speaker 3: anything else. I hate or yeah, two petticures peedicures. That's good.

1409
01:08:04,240 --> 01:08:06,920
Speaker 2: Uh oh, maybe a membership too. I like an art

1410
01:08:07,000 --> 01:08:08,440
Speaker 2: museum or botanic garden.

1411
01:08:09,440 --> 01:08:12,040
Speaker 3: Very nice. You are trying. You were doing everything in

1412
01:08:12,080 --> 01:08:15,360
Speaker 3: your power to save this marriage, and I'm out here

1413
01:08:15,440 --> 01:08:18,679
Speaker 3: just trying to, you know, continue to push them apart.

1414
01:08:19,360 --> 01:08:21,040
Speaker 2: You're trying to be fun. It's like, I just want

1415
01:08:21,080 --> 01:08:22,920
Speaker 2: to give her enough option. You know. I'm looking at

1416
01:08:22,920 --> 01:08:25,439
Speaker 2: my Bart Simpson cookie jar. A cookie jar of like

1417
01:08:25,479 --> 01:08:27,720
Speaker 2: a thing they like? Is I like the Oh I

1418
01:08:27,760 --> 01:08:28,519
Speaker 2: love I don't.

1419
01:08:28,880 --> 01:08:31,920
Speaker 3: I surprisingly don't own a cookie jar. I like a

1420
01:08:31,920 --> 01:08:33,679
Speaker 3: good cookie jar. They're very cute.

1421
01:08:33,800 --> 01:08:35,600
Speaker 2: I have a one hundred one DOLMATIONI one too, but

1422
01:08:35,640 --> 01:08:37,320
Speaker 2: it's on my parents. There used to be a cookie

1423
01:08:37,360 --> 01:08:39,040
Speaker 2: jar store in Chicago.

1424
01:08:39,560 --> 01:08:41,800
Speaker 3: Oh, I would have loved to visit that.

1425
01:08:42,000 --> 01:08:43,840
Speaker 2: Yeah. I got my sister a Flintstone's I mean I

1426
01:08:43,920 --> 01:08:46,120
Speaker 2: was there. I loved the cookie jar store.

1427
01:08:47,439 --> 01:08:50,200
Speaker 3: Get your parents a cookie jar. That's everyone should get

1428
01:08:50,200 --> 01:08:52,880
Speaker 3: everyone in their life a cookie jar. That's a fun

1429
01:08:52,880 --> 01:08:53,439
Speaker 3: thing to get.

1430
01:08:53,720 --> 01:08:56,439
Speaker 2: Yeah. Oh, and you know what, just to be cheesy,

1431
01:08:56,520 --> 01:08:59,559
Speaker 2: A build a bear, do a little message, sing them

1432
01:08:59,600 --> 01:09:03,160
Speaker 2: a song. This a fan.

1433
01:09:03,320 --> 01:09:06,719
Speaker 3: I wish you had sent your name but that's okay.

1434
01:09:06,920 --> 01:09:12,479
Speaker 3: We're talking to you, we're talking to your parents, and yeah, Lisa,

1435
01:09:12,720 --> 01:09:14,320
Speaker 3: I've had such a fantastic time.

1436
01:09:14,800 --> 01:09:17,439
Speaker 2: Thank you. It's hard to go. And now I'm just

1437
01:09:17,520 --> 01:09:23,439
Speaker 2: like coffee, table books, pajamas, matching pajamas, aceop soap ASoP

1438
01:09:23,520 --> 01:09:24,559
Speaker 2: soap is good though.

1439
01:09:24,960 --> 01:09:27,080
Speaker 3: Oh that's a great gift that no one's ever given

1440
01:09:27,160 --> 01:09:28,920
Speaker 3: to me. I don't know what that says about my

1441
01:09:29,520 --> 01:09:32,639
Speaker 3: stop your budget. Yeah, I'm going to start telling people

1442
01:09:32,800 --> 01:09:36,240
Speaker 3: five hundred dollars or more. The gift has got to

1443
01:09:36,240 --> 01:09:37,519
Speaker 3: be extremely.

1444
01:09:37,040 --> 01:09:39,800
Speaker 2: Expensive because I do like to follow rules when it

1445
01:09:40,360 --> 01:09:43,679
Speaker 2: comes to that. But it is like, get some aceop

1446
01:09:43,800 --> 01:09:45,920
Speaker 2: soap in the mix I need?

1447
01:09:46,360 --> 01:09:48,400
Speaker 3: How do I get a billionaire on this podcast?

1448
01:09:48,720 --> 01:09:51,120
Speaker 2: You've had my next celebrities? You had like a Kate

1449
01:09:51,200 --> 01:09:54,160
Speaker 2: Blanchette or something like Tony collect Like you had someone

1450
01:09:54,160 --> 01:09:54,720
Speaker 2: where I was like, what.

1451
01:09:56,200 --> 01:10:00,559
Speaker 3: Wonderful? I'm sorry, but I'm talking billion and there are

1452
01:10:00,560 --> 01:10:02,680
Speaker 3: only a few of them. But I've got to get

1453
01:10:02,680 --> 01:10:04,760
Speaker 3: one of these assholes on my podcast, and did They've

1454
01:10:04,760 --> 01:10:07,639
Speaker 3: got to give me a car or a house that's mine?

1455
01:10:07,720 --> 01:10:10,280
Speaker 2: We went from luxury soap to a car real quick.

1456
01:10:12,280 --> 01:10:14,680
Speaker 3: How do I get someone on here so wealthy that

1457
01:10:14,760 --> 01:10:18,200
Speaker 3: buying me a car or house is just like nothing.

1458
01:10:18,680 --> 01:10:20,479
Speaker 2: Did you wait question? Do you like Gaga? Did you

1459
01:10:20,479 --> 01:10:23,360
Speaker 2: watch the Gaga on Netflix doc The Five Foot Two? Now?

1460
01:10:23,640 --> 01:10:26,120
Speaker 3: Look, I haven't watched the documentary. I'm you know, I

1461
01:10:26,160 --> 01:10:27,880
Speaker 3: could take her or leave her.

1462
01:10:27,960 --> 01:10:30,839
Speaker 2: Okay. So she's driving to meet up with Mark Ronson,

1463
01:10:30,880 --> 01:10:32,160
Speaker 2: who's like a you know, producer.

1464
01:10:32,320 --> 01:10:33,360
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, super producer.

1465
01:10:33,400 --> 01:10:36,200
Speaker 2: And she goes in and shays, I hate your car. Sorry,

1466
01:10:37,360 --> 01:10:40,120
Speaker 2: and it's like, I gotta not like, did she pay

1467
01:10:40,160 --> 01:10:41,720
Speaker 2: for it? Did she just send a gift? Did she

1468
01:10:41,800 --> 01:10:43,680
Speaker 2: take the cars? He rich too, so he's like, I

1469
01:10:43,720 --> 01:10:45,280
Speaker 2: got it, don't worry. I don't give a shit. We're

1470
01:10:45,320 --> 01:10:47,600
Speaker 2: about to get a number of hats Like I'm just like,

1471
01:10:47,720 --> 01:10:49,880
Speaker 2: what happened after she hit his car?

1472
01:10:50,560 --> 01:10:53,320
Speaker 3: That's wild. I need to know the end of that story.

1473
01:10:53,560 --> 01:10:55,960
Speaker 2: One day, Hopefully I can ask her one day.

1474
01:10:56,120 --> 01:10:58,400
Speaker 3: Well hopefully one day she's on this podcast. Despite the

1475
01:10:58,400 --> 01:10:59,600
Speaker 3: fact that I just said I could take her or

1476
01:10:59,640 --> 01:11:05,479
Speaker 3: leave her, and she gives me a car Goga reach out. Okay,

1477
01:11:05,479 --> 01:11:09,679
Speaker 3: Well this is I have had such a wonderful time

1478
01:11:09,680 --> 01:11:13,719
Speaker 3: and I've gone two useful gifts. I'm just beyond beyond thrill.

1479
01:11:13,840 --> 01:11:14,960
Speaker 2: Do you like to swim?

1480
01:11:15,680 --> 01:11:17,280
Speaker 3: I love to swim. I wish I had a swimming

1481
01:11:17,280 --> 01:11:19,719
Speaker 3: pool at the podcast.

1482
01:11:19,720 --> 01:11:22,040
Speaker 2: I'm gonna rent this pool in the neighborhood one day, and.

1483
01:11:21,960 --> 01:11:23,880
Speaker 3: We're all you can rent a pool in the neighborhood.

1484
01:11:24,000 --> 01:11:26,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's not even that much. I have a special

1485
01:11:26,280 --> 01:11:29,360
Speaker 2: link that's not like on an app. And we I've

1486
01:11:29,400 --> 01:11:33,040
Speaker 2: been Lizzie's been with me karras on this pool. And

1487
01:11:33,040 --> 01:11:34,080
Speaker 2: there's a hot tub too.

1488
01:11:34,720 --> 01:11:37,160
Speaker 3: We've got okay, and I'll come swinging in with my

1489
01:11:37,280 --> 01:11:41,799
Speaker 3: new water bottle. Yes, it's going to be a thrill. Yes, listener,

1490
01:11:41,840 --> 01:11:45,880
Speaker 3: you're not invited. I'm so sorry, but this is the

1491
01:11:45,960 --> 01:11:48,720
Speaker 3: end of the podcast, and I hope you've had as

1492
01:11:48,760 --> 01:11:51,799
Speaker 3: good of a time as we have. And if you haven't,

1493
01:11:52,760 --> 01:11:55,200
Speaker 3: I don't know, maybe it wasn't you know, maybe this

1494
01:11:55,439 --> 01:11:57,080
Speaker 3: just wasn't working for you today. And I hope you

1495
01:11:57,120 --> 01:12:00,479
Speaker 3: don't hold it as I hold it against us. I

1496
01:12:00,479 --> 01:12:03,160
Speaker 3: hope that you return next week with a whole with

1497
01:12:03,240 --> 01:12:06,800
Speaker 3: the whole family. Bring the family next time. I love you.

1498
01:12:07,040 --> 01:12:09,680
Speaker 3: Take care of yourself, be careful, do what you need

1499
01:12:09,720 --> 01:12:18,520
Speaker 3: to do. Goodbye. I said no gifts is an exactly

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01:12:18,800 --> 01:12:23,120
Speaker 3: right production. It's produced and engineered by our dear friend

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01:12:23,240 --> 01:12:27,000
Speaker 3: Annalise Nelson and the theme song is by miracle worker

1502
01:12:27,120 --> 01:12:31,479
Speaker 3: Amy Mann. You must follow the show on Instagram at

1503
01:12:31,600 --> 01:12:34,800
Speaker 3: I said no gifts, that's where you're going to see

1504
01:12:34,840 --> 01:12:38,040
Speaker 3: pictures of all these wonderful gifts I'm getting. You have

1505
01:12:38,120 --> 01:12:42,640
Speaker 3: to see the gifts. Listen and subscribe on Apple Podcasts,

1506
01:12:42,640 --> 01:12:46,160
Speaker 3: Stitcher or wherever you found me. And why not leave

1507
01:12:46,200 --> 01:12:49,320
Speaker 3: a review while you're there. It's really the least you

1508
01:12:49,320 --> 01:12:52,760
Speaker 3: could do, considering everything I do for you. And if

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Speaker 3: you're interested in advertising on the show, go to midrol

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Speaker 3: dot com slash ads.

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Speaker 1: I invited you here. I thought I made myself perfectly clear.

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Speaker 1: But you're I guess to my home. You gotta come

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Speaker 1: to me empty, and I said, no guests, your own

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Speaker 1: presences presence enough. I already had too much stuff, So

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Speaker 1: how do you dare to surbey me