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<v Speaker 1>Hike and everybody. I'm Dan Horde and this is the

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<v Speaker 1>Bengals Booth Podcast, the Best Laid Plans Edition, as we

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<v Speaker 1>look back at a five point loss to the Chargers

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<v Speaker 1>that saw the Bengals follow their game plan to a t.

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<v Speaker 1>They ran the ball, effectively, controlled the clock, did not

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<v Speaker 1>commit a turnover, stop Philip Rivers and the Chargers on

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<v Speaker 1>third down, and still found a way to lose. Coming up,

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<v Speaker 1>you'll hear radio replays, locker room interviews with key players,

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<v Speaker 1>and Dave Lappom will join me for postgame analysis plus

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<v Speaker 1>and this week's fund Fag's interview. You'll get to know

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<v Speaker 1>safety Brandon Wilson. Among other things. We'll discuss the former

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<v Speaker 1>head football coach for four years at his high school.

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<v Speaker 1>You might have heard of the guy Doug Peterson, the

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<v Speaker 1>current head coach of the defending Super Bowl champion Philadelphia Eagles.

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<v Speaker 1>All of that is straight ahead, but first, here's a

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<v Speaker 1>quick reminder that you can have the latest edition of

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<v Speaker 1>this podcast delivered to your phone, tablet, or computer by

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<v Speaker 1>subscribing an itune, Stitcher, or pod Bean. It's the greatest

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<v Speaker 1>invention since the search engine. In choosing a name for

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<v Speaker 1>this edition of the podcast. I thought of the expression

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<v Speaker 1>the best laid plans of mice and men, saying used

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<v Speaker 1>to suggest that no matter how carefully something is planned,

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<v Speaker 1>things may still go wrong. Then I realized, I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know where that expression comes from, so I google searched it.

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<v Speaker 1>It's from the poem to a Mouse, written by Robert

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<v Speaker 1>Burns in the seventeen hundreds, and it includes the line

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<v Speaker 1>the best laid schemes of mice and men go often askew.

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<v Speaker 1>Now you know that, Let's get to football. The LA

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<v Speaker 1>Chargers entered Sunday's game with a fifteen and four record

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<v Speaker 1>in their last nineteen games. Nobody has a better mark

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<v Speaker 1>during that stretch, so it was no surprise that the

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<v Speaker 1>Chargers were favored by more than two touchdowns at home

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<v Speaker 1>against the injury ravaged Bengals. It was also no surprise

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<v Speaker 1>when LA opened the game with a sixth play, seventy

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<v Speaker 1>five yard touchdown drive first and ten at the Bengals

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<v Speaker 1>fourteen yard line. Rivers, with a glove on his left hand,

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<v Speaker 1>catches the shotgun, snap throws it toward the end zone

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<v Speaker 1>as a man open, and it's a touchdown for the Chargers.

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<v Speaker 1>A beautiful throw lofted over the shoulder Keenan Allen with

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<v Speaker 1>the catch. Sheen and Allen made the catch. Star Quest

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<v Speaker 1>narting coverage of Keenan Allen reren a great route. It's

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<v Speaker 1>the twenty sixth straight game with a touchdown pass for Rivers,

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<v Speaker 1>but it turned out to be his only one of

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<v Speaker 1>the day, ending Philip's streak of thirteen straight games with

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<v Speaker 1>two or more touchdown passes, two short of Peyton Manning's

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<v Speaker 1>NFL record. The Bengals answered with a field goal, but

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<v Speaker 1>quickly fell behind fourteen to three as the Chargers also

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<v Speaker 1>went seventy five yards to score on their second session.

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<v Speaker 1>Eckler lines up seven yards behind the line at the

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<v Speaker 1>twelve yard line. Hands on these second and goal from

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<v Speaker 1>the five for the Chargers. A receiver goes in motion.

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<v Speaker 1>That's Benjamin. Here's a handoff to Eckler and he will

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<v Speaker 1>run it into the end zone for a Charger's touchdown,

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<v Speaker 1>a five yard run for Austin Eckler and the Chargers

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<v Speaker 1>have scored touchdowns on their first two possessions. Two possessions,

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<v Speaker 1>two touchdowns and one hundred and fifty yards of offense.

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<v Speaker 1>It looked like it could be another butt kicking similar

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<v Speaker 1>to the Chiefs or Saints games. As it turned out,

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<v Speaker 1>far from it. For the rest of the game, the

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<v Speaker 1>Bengals defense was spectacular, allowing one hundred thirty eight yards

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<v Speaker 1>and no touchdowns on the Chargers' final eight drives. Here's

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<v Speaker 1>safety Jesse Bates on slowing down Philip Rivers. Once we

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<v Speaker 1>start to move around a little bit, disguising a lot,

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<v Speaker 1>we gotta get fill of what he was looking at

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<v Speaker 1>and how deep in the play clot he was going.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that kind of flustered him a little bit.

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<v Speaker 1>The Bengals appeared to or their first touchdown with five

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<v Speaker 1>and a half minutes left in the half when quarterback

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<v Speaker 1>Jeff Driscoll scrambled to the right and dove toward the

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<v Speaker 1>end zone, extending the ball over the goal line for

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<v Speaker 1>a one yard score, But after a replay review, the

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<v Speaker 1>officials ruled that Driscoll had given himself up and was

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<v Speaker 1>down inches from the goal line. Here's the Bengals quarterback.

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<v Speaker 1>I've never seen that before. But you know, if that's

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<v Speaker 1>the rule, that's the rule, and you know you can't

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<v Speaker 1>you can't argue with an official. If that's the rule,

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<v Speaker 1>that's the rule. Maybe it's a you know, maybe they

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<v Speaker 1>need to relok at the rule, but I obviously was

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<v Speaker 1>not giving myself out. But if that's how the rules interpreted,

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<v Speaker 1>it is what it is, and you know, unfortunately not hurt.

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<v Speaker 1>The call was the result of a rule change in

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<v Speaker 1>the offseason. For years, in an attempt to protect quarterbacks,

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<v Speaker 1>defenders have had to ease up when a QB goes

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<v Speaker 1>into a feat first slide. Head first dives were treated differently.

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<v Speaker 1>Not anymore. Now, a diving quarterback is treated just like

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<v Speaker 1>a lighting one. The play is dead when anybody part

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<v Speaker 1>hits the ground. That's why Driscoll's touchdown was taken off

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<v Speaker 1>the board. But you know what, it shouldn't have mattered.

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<v Speaker 1>The Bengals were about a nostril hair from the goal

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<v Speaker 1>line and should have been able to score easily on

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<v Speaker 1>fourth down, but offensive lineman Alex Redman moved before the snap,

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<v Speaker 1>and his five yard penalty forced the Bengals to kick

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<v Speaker 1>a field goal, reducing the deficit to fourteen to six.

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<v Speaker 1>Here's Redman, I mean, that's that's that's some rookie. Can't

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<v Speaker 1>be letting happened. So, yeah, it is frustrating. In the

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<v Speaker 1>second quarter, the Bengals defense actually began to dominate, driving

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<v Speaker 1>the Chargers backward on three straight three and outs, but

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<v Speaker 1>his third down and one Chargers stick with the empty

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<v Speaker 1>backfield in five wides. Rivers scanning the Bengals defense catches

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<v Speaker 1>a high shotgun snap being chased by Dunlap. He's got him,

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<v Speaker 1>They'll sack him back at the six yard line. Dunlap's

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<v Speaker 1>eight sack of the season forced the Chargers to punt

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<v Speaker 1>in the back of the end zone, allowing the Bengals

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<v Speaker 1>to start a drive at the LA thirty five yard

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<v Speaker 1>line with one thirty five left in the half. Five

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<v Speaker 1>plays later, they were in the end zone. Three receivers

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<v Speaker 1>out to the right, one to the left. Nobody why

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<v Speaker 1>to the Numerals. Driscoll catches a shotgun snap. He's back

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<v Speaker 1>to throw, good protection. His throw taught by John Ross

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<v Speaker 1>right over the medal for a Bengals touchdown, and he

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<v Speaker 1>was wide open across the Dan Cross. Has it been good?

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<v Speaker 1>That's the six touchdown reception for John Ross and he's

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<v Speaker 1>not even close to twenty catches yet. It's crazy. Ross

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<v Speaker 1>is from nearby Long Beach, California, and had about twenty

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<v Speaker 1>five friends and relatives in attendance. I one of the

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<v Speaker 1>best feelings I've had, you know, in a very long time.

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<v Speaker 1>Definitely in the best moment I've had playing in a

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<v Speaker 1>in a stadium since I've been you know, and colleger

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<v Speaker 1>in NFL. So it's just nothing can beat playing in

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<v Speaker 1>front of your family and your friends and your son.

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<v Speaker 1>How do you think you're doing yourself personally this season?

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<v Speaker 1>I think I'm doing okay, which is not good enough.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's always room for improvement no matter who

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<v Speaker 1>you are, especially me, you know, hold myself to a

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<v Speaker 1>high standard. And you know, I think I'm still you know,

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<v Speaker 1>figuring it out, you know, find an identity on him.

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<v Speaker 1>I will say this those It's much more smooth than

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<v Speaker 1>it was last year. Ross's touchdown made it fourteen to

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<v Speaker 1>twelve with twenty seconds left in the half. They're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>go for two and try to tie it with twenty

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<v Speaker 1>seconds left in the half, so chasing points early not

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<v Speaker 1>necessarily recommended, but we'll see if it works. Two receivers

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<v Speaker 1>to each side of the formation, Driscoll back to throw.

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<v Speaker 1>He swings it out to the right to Bernard and

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<v Speaker 1>he has tackled at the five yard line. As if

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<v Speaker 1>that wasn't bad enough. The final twenty seconds of the

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<v Speaker 1>half were a comical disaster. The Chargers used ten seconds

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<v Speaker 1>to return the kickoff to the thirty two yard line,

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<v Speaker 1>leaving ten seconds in the half. Back to back eleven

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<v Speaker 1>yard completions used up nine of those seconds and moved

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<v Speaker 1>la to the Bengals forty six yard line, not close

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<v Speaker 1>enough for a field goal attempt, so Rivers dropped back

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<v Speaker 1>to throw a hail Merry pass and got sacked by

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<v Speaker 1>Dunlap and Sam Hubbard, but inexplicably, Jordan Willis was offside

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<v Speaker 1>that moved the ball to the forty one yard line,

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<v Speaker 1>allowing the Chargers to bring out rookie kicker Michael Badgeley

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<v Speaker 1>badually made the game winner at the gun last Sunday

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<v Speaker 1>night in Pittsburgh on his third try. The Bengals do

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<v Speaker 1>have a returner waiting in the back of the end zone.

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<v Speaker 1>Nine yard attempt. It looks like it is long enough

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<v Speaker 1>and it is good. Wo wow. How about that. Here's

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<v Speaker 1>Jesse Bates on the two critical first half penalties. I

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<v Speaker 1>think that's losing football. I mean, we got a chance

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<v Speaker 1>to score on not even the one yard line, and

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<v Speaker 1>we jump offside in the sulfield goal it's four points.

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<v Speaker 1>And then right before the half, we you know we're

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<v Speaker 1>about going inside halftime our offense getting the ball back

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<v Speaker 1>on on saw and give them three more points. So

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<v Speaker 1>that's a seven point you know swing right there. The

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<v Speaker 1>Bengals got the ball down by five points to begin

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<v Speaker 1>the third quarter, and on their opening drive, faced fourth

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<v Speaker 1>and less than a yard at their own thirty five

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<v Speaker 1>yard line, Marvin Lewis elected to go for it. Driscoll

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<v Speaker 1>under center, He's got to hand it off. Mixon trying

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<v Speaker 1>to fight for the yardage he won't get there, doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>come close. That's a great wall of China right there,

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<v Speaker 1>I thought, hammered up inside where those young guys had

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<v Speaker 1>been operating so efficiently and effectively, and the Los Angeles

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<v Speaker 1>Chargers said, nah, baby nah. That led to an easy

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<v Speaker 1>Chargers field goal in a twenty to twelve lead. Here's

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<v Speaker 1>coach Lewis who got less than four inches to go,

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<v Speaker 1>five inches to go. We don't make it. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>you know those things we got to make those man

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<v Speaker 1>we're counting long in the make it. On their next possession,

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<v Speaker 1>the Bengals drove to the LA thirty four, but rather

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<v Speaker 1>than attempt to fifty two yard field goal. They lined

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<v Speaker 1>up to go for it on fourth and seven before

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<v Speaker 1>a penalty on Billy Price forced the Bengals to punt.

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<v Speaker 1>Lap asked Marvin about passing up the field goal try.

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<v Speaker 1>Was it a tough decision not to go for that

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<v Speaker 1>fifty two yard field goal? Was right on the border

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<v Speaker 1>of what you thought might be his range might be? Well,

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<v Speaker 1>I felt with the wind today and just the way

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<v Speaker 1>it was, the wind was cross wind and it was

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<v Speaker 1>you know, and warm ups, and didn't so comfortable with it.

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<v Speaker 1>On the Bengals next drive, Bullock was given the opportunity

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<v Speaker 1>to attempt a forty six yard field goal, and he

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<v Speaker 1>drilled it with room to spare to pull the Bengals

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<v Speaker 1>back within five. LA answered with a field goal to

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<v Speaker 1>push the lead back to eight, but Cincinnati was still

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<v Speaker 1>within a touchdown. In a two point conversion with seven

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<v Speaker 1>forty five to go, Matt Lengal goes in motion. Driscoll

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<v Speaker 1>takes the direct staff It's a run to the right

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<v Speaker 1>for Mixon charging up the middle. Filt first down, still

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<v Speaker 1>going all the way down to the eleven yard line.

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<v Speaker 1>Want a run for Joe Mixon and the Bengals are

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<v Speaker 1>eleven yards away after that nineteen yard run. Again between

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<v Speaker 1>the tackles, those young guys up front in the middle,

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<v Speaker 1>they're operating very, very efficiently. Mixon finished with twenty six

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<v Speaker 1>carries for one hundred eleven yards. Here's Jeff Driscoll on

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<v Speaker 1>Joe's performance. We've been saying we got to be able

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<v Speaker 1>to run the football. That's gonna set everything else up.

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<v Speaker 1>And I thought Joe did a great job today, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>hitting the holes when the holes were there, and in

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<v Speaker 1>creating when maybe there wasn't as much, you know, free

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<v Speaker 1>room to run. So I mean, I thought he competed

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<v Speaker 1>and ran really hard, and you know, I'm just you know,

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<v Speaker 1>it was fun to watch him play well today. Mixon

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<v Speaker 1>gave the Bengals a chance to tie the game with

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<v Speaker 1>less than two minutes to go. Sam Hubbard in at fullback,

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<v Speaker 1>first in goal from the one, Driscoll hands it to

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<v Speaker 1>Mix and he is in a touchdown from the one

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<v Speaker 1>yard line for Joe Mixon, and now the Bengals will

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<v Speaker 1>try for a two point conversion in hopes of tying

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<v Speaker 1>the game with one fifty to go. The Bengals have

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<v Speaker 1>not had a two point conversion in fifty six games,

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<v Speaker 1>longest streak of any team in the NFL. They will

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<v Speaker 1>try for one here to tie the game. Drist go

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<v Speaker 1>back to throw looking still looking sacked back at the

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<v Speaker 1>fifteen yard line. That's a coverage sack right there, man,

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<v Speaker 1>because he had nowhere to go at the football, and

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<v Speaker 1>you can't throw it away. You have to try to

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<v Speaker 1>create a play and he couldn't find anybody to throw

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<v Speaker 1>it too. That's and he takes the sack. The failed

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<v Speaker 1>two point try forced the Bengals to attempt an on

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<v Speaker 1>side kick, and that failed as well. The Bengals have

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<v Speaker 1>not had a successful on side kick since two thy ten.

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<v Speaker 1>They are over six since the Chargers added three points

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<v Speaker 1>on Badgeley's fourth field goal of the game to win

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<v Speaker 1>it twenty six to twenty one. Here are John Ross

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<v Speaker 1>and Clayton Federlum. It was a wake up call, like,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, we are better than what people think, you know, um,

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<v Speaker 1>And you know we actually we were playing we're playing

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<v Speaker 1>really good. It is this. We gotta put everything together,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, and it'll come. I never never feel good

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<v Speaker 1>after loss. Doesn't matter if you lose by one hundred,

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<v Speaker 1>by one point losses, you know, you know, I hate

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<v Speaker 1>losing more than I like winning, so you know it

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<v Speaker 1>hurts um. You know where there's some positive out there, absolutely,

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<v Speaker 1>most notably the play of the defense. The Bengals held

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<v Speaker 1>the Chargers to two hundred eighty eight yards, the fewest

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<v Speaker 1>the Bengals have allowed in a game all season, and

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<v Speaker 1>one hundred forty five yards below the whopping four thirty

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<v Speaker 1>three the teams have been averaging against Cincinnati this season.

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<v Speaker 1>The Chargers were also just five for thirteen on third down.

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<v Speaker 1>That's thirty eight percent, well below the Bengals league worst

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<v Speaker 1>average of fifty four percent. Going in. Now time to

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<v Speaker 1>bring in my broadcast partner Dave Lapham for postgame analysis,

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<v Speaker 1>and we start with the critical mistakes that cost the

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<v Speaker 1>Bengals an upset win. You know, you can't put yourself

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<v Speaker 1>from your schedule, and you only have six penalties for

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<v Speaker 1>thirty four yards or whatever it is, but four of

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<v Speaker 1>those six penalties were crucial. I mean, you know, one

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<v Speaker 1>at the one inch line that makes you settle for

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<v Speaker 1>a field goal. There's four points off the board potentially

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<v Speaker 1>because they were going for it on fourth down and

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<v Speaker 1>literally less than a foot. And then at the conclusion

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<v Speaker 1>of the half, they have a sack and there's a

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<v Speaker 1>penalty because Jordan Willis jumps, uh, and you know now

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<v Speaker 1>it's it's line up for a fifty nine yard field goal.

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<v Speaker 1>Makes it so there are seven points right there worst

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<v Speaker 1>case scenario, and a five point lost, and it's it's

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<v Speaker 1>just it's just unfortunate. I mean, you do a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of a lot of things right, but when the chips

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<v Speaker 1>are on the line, you know, there's not that margin

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<v Speaker 1>for error, and I think guys maybe start, you know, realizing,

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<v Speaker 1>oh man, I you know, I can't make a mistake,

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<v Speaker 1>and then that's when you might make mistakes. You just

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<v Speaker 1>have to play kind of free and easy. And it's

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<v Speaker 1>unfortunate because very there's only two teams in the NFL

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<v Speaker 1>at this stage of the season that have run the

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<v Speaker 1>football more than theyve thrown it, and both of them

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<v Speaker 1>have winning records. And the Bengals did that today. They

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<v Speaker 1>ran the ball more than they threw it. And I thought,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I still didn't really think that they had

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<v Speaker 1>a big attack throwing the ball down the field. A

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<v Speaker 1>lot of it was horizontal throwing, but I thought the

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<v Speaker 1>game plan was sound. And I will never understand how

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<v Speaker 1>they apply a rule a quarterback giving himself up at

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<v Speaker 1>the one inch line. I mean, I understand the rule.

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<v Speaker 1>I understand the application rule, but there when you're you're

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<v Speaker 1>going to score and you're you're stretching the ball out,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't understand how you can apply it there. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know, but unfortunately was called and and that's you know,

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<v Speaker 1>that's just another another thing you have to deal with

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<v Speaker 1>when it when it rains, it pours. Hindsight's always twenty twenty.

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<v Speaker 1>But when it comes to a couple of decisions during

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<v Speaker 1>the course of the game, the decision to go for

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<v Speaker 1>two at twenty seconds left in the second quarter and

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<v Speaker 1>actually your question chasing points that early in the game.

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<v Speaker 1>The decision to run the ball on fourth and short

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<v Speaker 1>early third quarter when you got a quarterback, try to

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<v Speaker 1>quarterback sneak and possibly picked it up that way. Obviously,

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<v Speaker 1>when it doesn't work, it's easy to second guess. But

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<v Speaker 1>those are some decisions that I'm sure a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>people were first guessing as well. Yeah, I'm sure. And

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<v Speaker 1>if you decide to go for two and you don't

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<v Speaker 1>make it, then you have to, you know, at the

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<v Speaker 1>end of the game to go for two. And the

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<v Speaker 1>other thing is if you're going to chase points and

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<v Speaker 1>go for two. Why don't you chase points and kick

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<v Speaker 1>a fifty two yard field goal? At least try to.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not congruous, you know, it's in incongruous there. It's

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<v Speaker 1>like they don't they don't. The pattern doesn't doesn't follow.

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<v Speaker 1>So you know, a fifty two yard field goal in

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<v Speaker 1>these weather conditions. He hit that fifty nine yard room

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<v Speaker 1>to spare, and I think a fifty two yard or

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<v Speaker 1>is makable. I didn't really detect a whole lot of

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<v Speaker 1>wind or any kind of problems, but maybe they did.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe they didn't like what they saw in pregame warm

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<v Speaker 1>ups or whatever. There has to be a reason for it.

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<v Speaker 1>But you know that, I'm sure people are thinking, what

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<v Speaker 1>if you're going for two, why aren't you trying that

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<v Speaker 1>fifty two yard field goal? I guess in hindsight, that's

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<v Speaker 1>that's my thought on that too. Biggest positive on the

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<v Speaker 1>defensive end for me is this. The Chargers scored touchdowns

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<v Speaker 1>on their first two possessions, did not score another touchdown

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<v Speaker 1>then their last eight possessions of the game. Now, they

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<v Speaker 1>did kick four field goals, including a couple of short

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<v Speaker 1>fields where they got the balling Bengals territory. But it's

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<v Speaker 1>hard to imagine, or it's been hard to imagine this

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<v Speaker 1>defensa as badly as it struggled, holding a potent offense

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<v Speaker 1>like that to eight possessions without a touchdown, and to

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<v Speaker 1>play the way they did after the start, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>and to h to put your finger in the hole

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<v Speaker 1>in the dike, you know, that's hard to do on

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<v Speaker 1>the road against a really good quarterback. That's that's a

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<v Speaker 1>really good football team. I mean they're ten and three now,

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<v Speaker 1>they might be playing the AIRC Championship game here at

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<v Speaker 1>stub Hub. Boy, the league would love that, wouldn't they.

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<v Speaker 1>But I mean, that's a really really good football team.

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<v Speaker 1>And defensively, I thought the Corners played hard. I thought

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<v Speaker 1>Joe Mixon played hard, Tyler Boyd played hard. The Corners

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<v Speaker 1>player so many guys played hard, played really really hard.

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<v Speaker 1>Defensive guys were you know, getting after it in the

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<v Speaker 1>front front line, you know, after the first couple of drives,

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<v Speaker 1>so the encouraging signers, they didn't spit the bit, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>it didn't become an ugly situation. They made it a

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<v Speaker 1>really really good football game. And I thought the physicality

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<v Speaker 1>of the three young guys inside was a plus. I thought.

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<v Speaker 1>I thought Westerman and Billy Price and Redman. Redman had that.

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<v Speaker 1>You know that tough penalty obviously, but those guys were

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<v Speaker 1>getting course. Now Joe Mixon was. He wasn't making his

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<v Speaker 1>first cutting his own back for he was making his

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<v Speaker 1>first cut three four yards down the football field. That's

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<v Speaker 1>what you want to see with him back like that.

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<v Speaker 1>Thanks Lap. Up next the home finale against the three

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<v Speaker 1>and ten Oakland Raiders, who stunned Pittsburgh on Sunday twenty

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<v Speaker 1>four to twenty one. The Steelers are seven to five

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<v Speaker 1>and one with a home game against the Patriots this

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<v Speaker 1>week followed by a road game against the Saints. So

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<v Speaker 1>much for resting starters against the Bengals in week seventeen.

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<v Speaker 1>The Steelers might have to beat Cincinnati just to qualify

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<v Speaker 1>for the playoffs. The Bengals knocked the Ravens out of

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<v Speaker 1>the playoffs in the final game of the year on

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<v Speaker 1>the road last year. With so many players on injured reserve,

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<v Speaker 1>they couldn't do it in Pittsburgh, could they? Could they?

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<v Speaker 1>It would be fun to find out. Now Time for

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<v Speaker 1>this week's fun fact segment, where you get to know

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<v Speaker 1>the person under the pads, in this case a second

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<v Speaker 1>year safety and special team stand out from the University

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<v Speaker 1>of Houston. Time for some fun facts with Bengal safety

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<v Speaker 1>Brandon Wilson from Shreveport, Louisiana and the northwest tip of Louisiana,

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<v Speaker 1>not far from the Texas and Mississippi borders. Tell us

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit about growing up in Shreveport and what

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<v Speaker 1>you like to do as a kid growing up. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>I like to do what every kid does, go outside,

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<v Speaker 1>I play play video games, but most of the time

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<v Speaker 1>I really played football, I mean like everybody else, So

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<v Speaker 1>I mean just playing football that was that was really

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<v Speaker 1>my main thing. And running track. I feel like that's

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<v Speaker 1>what kind of got me. You know where I am today.

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<v Speaker 1>You're from a big family. Yes, I have three brothers

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<v Speaker 1>and three sisters, and I'm the middle child, so you

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<v Speaker 1>know how that goes. I'm the fourth out of five,

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<v Speaker 1>so I do know how that goes. How excited are

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<v Speaker 1>they to have a brother in the NFL? Oh, my goodness,

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<v Speaker 1>they are very excited. I Mean they always calling me

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<v Speaker 1>every day, calling me after games, asking me how, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>just checking on me, and they they're they're all excited.

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<v Speaker 1>And proud for me, you know, just having a brother

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<v Speaker 1>that's playing in the NFL. What your parents do for

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<v Speaker 1>a living all My dad he works at a factory,

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<v Speaker 1>and my mom she works as a custodian at apartment complex.

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<v Speaker 1>So I mean I kind of always looked up to

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<v Speaker 1>them because they were always hard workers. Also one of

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<v Speaker 1>my brothers, I always kind of look up to him

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<v Speaker 1>as well, you know, because just growing up and just

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<v Speaker 1>saying them work hard, you know, it always just pushed

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<v Speaker 1>me to work hard as well. We're doing fun facts

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<v Speaker 1>with Brandon Wilson. Your high school was Calvary Baptist Academy,

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<v Speaker 1>which was in the news last year because before Doug

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<v Speaker 1>Peterson was the head coach of the Super Bowl winning

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<v Speaker 1>Philadelphia Eagles, he was the head coach at your high

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<v Speaker 1>school for four years. Now that was before you got there,

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<v Speaker 1>But do you remember it at all? I remember it.

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<v Speaker 1>I remember because my brother that's older than me, Zi Kendrick,

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<v Speaker 1>he actually played under coach p And you know, it

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<v Speaker 1>was always cool just watching them. And I think, if

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not mistaken, I think Brett Farve came went to

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<v Speaker 1>the school one time, but I wasn't there. That's what

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<v Speaker 1>somebody told me that those were the rumors. So I

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<v Speaker 1>mean it was always cool. You know Sam as a coach,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, transitioning to where he is now. That must

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<v Speaker 1>have been pretty neat for your brother when the Eagles

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<v Speaker 1>won the Super Bowl last year, and he could say,

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<v Speaker 1>by high school coaches, the coach, I mean, everybody that

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<v Speaker 1>played under coach Peterson at Calvary, they on social media

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<v Speaker 1>just going crazy, my high school coach, you know, won

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<v Speaker 1>the Super Bowl. You know, it was it was real

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<v Speaker 1>cool just saying that we're talking to Brandon Wilson. You're

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<v Speaker 1>a great high school running back. But not that heavily recruited. Correct,

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<v Speaker 1>not heavily recruited at all, if I'm not mistaken. I

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<v Speaker 1>had an offer from Washington, but they pulled the offer

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<v Speaker 1>after they lost their bowl game to Baylor. I had

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<v Speaker 1>an offer from Grambling as well, and I think Eastern

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<v Speaker 1>Michigan or something, but I mean it wasn't know where

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<v Speaker 1>I really wanted to go. So um, later on, like

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<v Speaker 1>my process with it, I end up deciding to go

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<v Speaker 1>to Tyler Junior College. So I end up signing Tyler

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<v Speaker 1>Junior College, and then like a month later or so,

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<v Speaker 1>Houston came and they offered me a scholarship, so I

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<v Speaker 1>end up, you know, signing there, and the coach at

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<v Speaker 1>TJC he was like, I mean, if you don't like

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<v Speaker 1>it at Houston, you can always just come back to

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<v Speaker 1>t JC. And I was like, all right, so it's

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<v Speaker 1>a win win either way it goes. So it was

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<v Speaker 1>a blessing just you know, having that on the table.

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<v Speaker 1>It worked out well for you, and it certainly worked

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<v Speaker 1>out well for the Houston Cougars. You did everything there,

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<v Speaker 1>defensive back, running back, return specialist. You scored two touchdowns

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<v Speaker 1>on offense, two touchdowns on defense, four touchdowns on special teams.

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<v Speaker 1>Did you love doing everything? It was fun, honestly. I

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<v Speaker 1>mean I always just told them whatever they need me

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<v Speaker 1>to do, I'll do it. So I mean they just,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, end up throwing in there running back. It's

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<v Speaker 1>because we had some injuries that running back, like my

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<v Speaker 1>junior year, so I ended up coming in that week,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, and they just showed me the playbook. I

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<v Speaker 1>learned it and I ended up playing running back. I

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<v Speaker 1>had like one hundred and twenty seven yards or something.

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<v Speaker 1>I can't even remember. But I mean it was fun

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<v Speaker 1>because we end up winning our division and end up

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<v Speaker 1>going to the Chick fil A Bowl. So that year

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<v Speaker 1>was real, real fun. You had a great college career

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<v Speaker 1>and you also earned your college degree. What did that

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<v Speaker 1>mean to your family? Being the first in my household

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<v Speaker 1>to graduate. I just felt like I just felt like

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<v Speaker 1>just getting that degree, it kind of helped push my

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<v Speaker 1>younger siblings because I got three siblings, that's you know.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean I feel like it kind of pushed them

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<v Speaker 1>to you know, just see me, just knowing that they can,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, reach that reach that goal as well. So

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<v Speaker 1>it was real big for them. My parents were really

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<v Speaker 1>proud of me. You didn't get invited to the combine,

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<v Speaker 1>but then you killed it at your pro day a

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<v Speaker 1>four to three six forty yard dad forty one inch

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<v Speaker 1>vertical leap. Could you see the NFL scouts scribbling furiously

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<v Speaker 1>making sure they had a lot of information about Brandon Wilson.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean I really wouldn't paying attention, but everybody was like, yeah, man,

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<v Speaker 1>the scouts they saw you run. Everybody was just, you know, wild,

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<v Speaker 1>They didn't. I was just like, oh okay, but I

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<v Speaker 1>mean already I already knew what I could do, and

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<v Speaker 1>I just went out there and did it. So where

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<v Speaker 1>you ticked off he didn't get invited to the combine. No,

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<v Speaker 1>I wasn't. I wasn't worried at all. So all ended

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<v Speaker 1>up working out it did you wound up getting drafted

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<v Speaker 1>by the Bengals. Describe your draft experience. Um draft experience.

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<v Speaker 1>I was at home in Freeport, had all my friends

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<v Speaker 1>and family there, you know, and I'm not gonna lie.

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<v Speaker 1>I was sitting there nervous. It's a real nervous process.

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<v Speaker 1>So I was just sitting that real nervous, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>people trying to come from him, but saying it's gonna

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<v Speaker 1>be okay, It's gonna be okay. And I ended up

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<v Speaker 1>getting a call from the Bengals. And it was pretty

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<v Speaker 1>funny because my dad had on orange and black. He

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<v Speaker 1>had he had on orange and black that day, or

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<v Speaker 1>orange shirt, some black jeans, and some orange shoes. I

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<v Speaker 1>was like, how did he know that I was getting

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<v Speaker 1>drifted to the Bengal. So everybody was like, you must

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<v Speaker 1>already knew that he was getting drifted to the Bengal.

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<v Speaker 1>So it was really it was really cool, and it

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<v Speaker 1>was really fun that day, and everybody was just happy

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<v Speaker 1>and excited for me. Your dad just has good fashion sense,

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<v Speaker 1>range and black or good colors. Yes it is, Yes

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<v Speaker 1>it is. You know the black around here, all right.

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<v Speaker 1>A few more fun facts for Brandon Wilson, a few

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<v Speaker 1>more wildcard categories. Who is your all time favorite athlete

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<v Speaker 1>in any sport? And why Adrian Peterson always growed up

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<v Speaker 1>watching him? You know, And I used to play running back,

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<v Speaker 1>so I mean that was why I always kind of

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<v Speaker 1>lived the time. Um he's a real real good um

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<v Speaker 1>running back, hard worker, and um that's just somebody always,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, otherwise looked up to. What do you like

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<v Speaker 1>to spend your money on food? I like to eat.

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<v Speaker 1>I like to cook during the off season, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I kind of try to cook, but you know, I

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<v Speaker 1>like to eat a lot. Do you have a go

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<v Speaker 1>to dish that you cook if you're trying to impress somebody,

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<v Speaker 1>I'd like to cook some steak, you know, maybe some

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<v Speaker 1>seafood or something like that. That's my goal to dish.

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<v Speaker 1>Last thing. Do you have a talent that most people

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<v Speaker 1>don't know about? No? I do not, but I do

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<v Speaker 1>wish I could like seeing or play like instrumentals some

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<v Speaker 1>because I always think that's kind of cool if you

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<v Speaker 1>can play an answerment. So I'm with you. If I

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<v Speaker 1>could do it all over again, I would either play

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<v Speaker 1>the guitar the piano. Yes, sir, me too, I wish

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<v Speaker 1>I can we have that In comment, you're off the

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<v Speaker 1>hot seat. I appreciate your time. Best of luck the

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<v Speaker 1>rest of the year, sir. Thank you, and that's going

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