1 00:00:01,520 --> 00:00:04,080 Speaker 1: Hey, thanks for listening to the Condino and Rich Podcast. 2 00:00:04,160 --> 00:00:06,320 Speaker 1: Be sure to catch us live every weekday from five 3 00:00:06,360 --> 00:00:09,760 Speaker 1: to seven Eastern to the four Pacific on Fox Sports Radio. 4 00:00:09,960 --> 00:00:12,400 Speaker 1: Find your local station for Comedo on Rich at foxsports 5 00:00:12,480 --> 00:00:14,840 Speaker 1: Radio dot com, or stream us live every day on 6 00:00:14,880 --> 00:00:16,000 Speaker 1: the iHeartRadio app. 7 00:00:16,079 --> 00:00:17,599 Speaker 2: It's Life Searching FSR. 8 00:00:19,360 --> 00:00:21,920 Speaker 3: All Right, history of the books. We are on the 9 00:00:21,920 --> 00:00:25,120 Speaker 3: eve of the fourth of July. That means erin Torres. 10 00:00:25,640 --> 00:00:29,520 Speaker 3: It is July third. Welcome in happy pre independent state 11 00:00:29,560 --> 00:00:29,680 Speaker 3: of you. 12 00:00:29,880 --> 00:00:30,479 Speaker 4: Erin Torres. 13 00:00:30,920 --> 00:00:34,519 Speaker 1: Great to be here, great to be here. Yeah, you know, listen, 14 00:00:35,000 --> 00:00:37,560 Speaker 1: it's crazy because you know, for us we're on air, 15 00:00:37,600 --> 00:00:41,199 Speaker 1: but for so I know how many hundreds of thousands 16 00:00:41,240 --> 00:00:43,360 Speaker 1: of people are on the road right now, if not 17 00:00:43,479 --> 00:00:46,840 Speaker 1: even more so. Yeah, we're taking till seven eastern. Try 18 00:00:46,840 --> 00:00:48,480 Speaker 1: to keep you entertained, try to have some fun along 19 00:00:48,520 --> 00:00:49,040 Speaker 1: the way, and. 20 00:00:49,080 --> 00:00:53,560 Speaker 5: We're gonna have some fun. Iowa Sam is here hanging out. Hey, guys, Hello, 21 00:00:53,640 --> 00:00:55,080 Speaker 5: Iowa Sam. 22 00:00:55,240 --> 00:00:57,880 Speaker 1: I am riding that high of that Dodger game last night. 23 00:00:57,960 --> 00:01:00,000 Speaker 4: Wow, I'll tell you're not the only one. Jason Stuart 24 00:01:00,240 --> 00:01:00,800 Speaker 4: is as well. 25 00:01:00,880 --> 00:01:04,920 Speaker 5: Hello Everybunday, And we know Manty Belanos is feeling that 26 00:01:05,000 --> 00:01:06,280 Speaker 5: she was there last night. 27 00:01:06,760 --> 00:01:07,640 Speaker 1: I'm excited. 28 00:01:07,920 --> 00:01:11,440 Speaker 5: Yeah, all right, welcome in. It is coven Order, It's 29 00:01:11,440 --> 00:01:13,760 Speaker 5: here at Fox Sports Radio. Big thanks to the camera 30 00:01:13,840 --> 00:01:18,399 Speaker 5: crew as well, Dave Chuck, Paul Smitty and Timmy over there. 31 00:01:18,440 --> 00:01:22,720 Speaker 5: Appreciate you guys. Have a great, great extended weekend. Number 32 00:01:22,760 --> 00:01:27,839 Speaker 5: three thousand. Clayton Kershaw a member of the three thousand 33 00:01:27,880 --> 00:01:32,560 Speaker 5: strikeout club. It was a bit of history and last 34 00:01:32,680 --> 00:01:35,640 Speaker 5: night after the Dodgers coming back and scoring three runs 35 00:01:35,640 --> 00:01:36,920 Speaker 5: in the bottom of the ninth to help me in 36 00:01:37,000 --> 00:01:39,320 Speaker 5: my survivor pool and help Jason Stewart and his survivor 37 00:01:39,319 --> 00:01:41,920 Speaker 5: pool as well. It was a magical night at Dodger 38 00:01:41,959 --> 00:01:45,560 Speaker 5: Stadium because it was history and it's now Aaron Torres 39 00:01:45,640 --> 00:01:49,720 Speaker 5: being brought into question on how often are we going 40 00:01:49,760 --> 00:01:52,320 Speaker 5: to see this history of three thousand strikeouts? 41 00:01:52,440 --> 00:01:54,320 Speaker 4: But we saw it last night with Clayton Kershaw. 42 00:01:54,920 --> 00:01:55,440 Speaker 2: We did. 43 00:01:55,640 --> 00:01:57,760 Speaker 1: It was a special moment. I think what makes it 44 00:01:57,840 --> 00:02:00,960 Speaker 1: obviously especially special and maybe this is a little bit 45 00:02:00,960 --> 00:02:03,800 Speaker 1: of our bias living here in Los Angeles doing it 46 00:02:03,840 --> 00:02:06,720 Speaker 1: with one team, you know, I mean third guy, I 47 00:02:06,720 --> 00:02:09,920 Speaker 1: believe ever to do it with one team through three 48 00:02:09,960 --> 00:02:13,200 Speaker 1: thousand strikeouts and I think the arc of his career. 49 00:02:13,520 --> 00:02:18,160 Speaker 1: You know, obviously young, dynamic superstar into one of the 50 00:02:18,160 --> 00:02:20,200 Speaker 1: best pitchers in baseball. We know about the ups and 51 00:02:20,240 --> 00:02:24,160 Speaker 1: downs in October, and I think that even going into 52 00:02:24,200 --> 00:02:27,160 Speaker 1: like last year's postseason, I didn't realize how much he 53 00:02:27,240 --> 00:02:30,280 Speaker 1: meant to this city and that organization until of course 54 00:02:30,600 --> 00:02:34,000 Speaker 1: that parade ends in Dodger Stadium, He's welcome. Do you 55 00:02:34,080 --> 00:02:37,280 Speaker 1: realize how long he's been with the organization, You realize 56 00:02:37,320 --> 00:02:40,360 Speaker 1: how much he's accomplished, And then, of course maybe the 57 00:02:40,360 --> 00:02:42,840 Speaker 1: greatest accomplishment individually was last night. 58 00:02:43,360 --> 00:02:47,200 Speaker 5: I also like this about Clinton Kershaw getting strikeout three thousand, 59 00:02:47,280 --> 00:02:48,760 Speaker 5: and you're going to be hearing it throughout the show. 60 00:02:48,760 --> 00:02:50,600 Speaker 5: You're going to hear it in a second. But I 61 00:02:50,680 --> 00:02:53,080 Speaker 5: like it because Clayton Kershaw is a good guy. Sure, 62 00:02:53,200 --> 00:02:55,880 Speaker 5: And I know that seems like a general sort of 63 00:02:55,919 --> 00:02:59,959 Speaker 5: statement and one that may seem a bit phony or 64 00:03:00,880 --> 00:03:03,960 Speaker 5: maybe possibly be false, because we don't really know who 65 00:03:04,040 --> 00:03:07,400 Speaker 5: these players are. Because he's been around so much, because 66 00:03:07,440 --> 00:03:09,640 Speaker 5: of what we've seen him go through, because we've seen 67 00:03:10,680 --> 00:03:12,960 Speaker 5: so much of his career, and you mentioned us being 68 00:03:13,040 --> 00:03:16,320 Speaker 5: in southern California, I feel like we do have a 69 00:03:16,400 --> 00:03:20,239 Speaker 5: sense of that. Sure, sometimes at some point you understand, 70 00:03:20,600 --> 00:03:23,320 Speaker 5: all right, maybe not the greatest dude in the world, 71 00:03:23,560 --> 00:03:27,040 Speaker 5: but the guy wins. We've talked about that with many 72 00:03:27,040 --> 00:03:30,200 Speaker 5: different athletes throughout the spectrum, but we've also talked about 73 00:03:30,240 --> 00:03:33,840 Speaker 5: other athletes, like we could talk about Clayton Kershaw and 74 00:03:33,960 --> 00:03:37,280 Speaker 5: for all intents and purposes, everything that I know, everything 75 00:03:37,320 --> 00:03:40,120 Speaker 5: that he's exhibited, what he's done on the field, what 76 00:03:40,160 --> 00:03:43,680 Speaker 5: he's done off the field, is a good guy, a 77 00:03:43,920 --> 00:03:47,400 Speaker 5: really really good guy, maybe in a two percenters club 78 00:03:47,720 --> 00:03:51,160 Speaker 5: of good guys when it comes to professional athletes. That's 79 00:03:51,400 --> 00:03:54,920 Speaker 5: what I also loved last night, was that opportunity for 80 00:03:54,960 --> 00:03:58,480 Speaker 5: Clayton Kershaw to be celebrated like that, because we also 81 00:03:58,600 --> 00:04:00,960 Speaker 5: honestly don't know on how many times he will be 82 00:04:01,040 --> 00:04:03,800 Speaker 5: celebrated again. I think last year's World Series title would 83 00:04:03,840 --> 00:04:05,560 Speaker 5: be different if they win it again, even if he 84 00:04:05,600 --> 00:04:06,520 Speaker 5: has a role in it. 85 00:04:06,560 --> 00:04:07,040 Speaker 4: This year. 86 00:04:07,320 --> 00:04:10,600 Speaker 5: There was something different about the twenty twenty four championship. 87 00:04:11,040 --> 00:04:13,720 Speaker 5: Maybe it was coming off COVID, maybe it was because 88 00:04:13,760 --> 00:04:17,080 Speaker 5: of his injury history and whatnot, But you said, just 89 00:04:17,120 --> 00:04:21,599 Speaker 5: the response of Clayton Kershaw at the parade and rally, 90 00:04:21,760 --> 00:04:23,960 Speaker 5: of the response that he got from told you everything 91 00:04:24,000 --> 00:04:26,719 Speaker 5: you needed to know about him as a Dodger. But if, 92 00:04:26,800 --> 00:04:28,800 Speaker 5: even if he has a role in it, I think 93 00:04:28,839 --> 00:04:31,479 Speaker 5: there's going to be something different than it was last year. 94 00:04:31,480 --> 00:04:35,040 Speaker 5: But last night felt like because it was about him 95 00:04:35,200 --> 00:04:38,120 Speaker 5: and him only it wasn't a Dodgers team thing that 96 00:04:38,160 --> 00:04:41,600 Speaker 5: the Dodgers fans got an opportunity to celebrate that. I 97 00:04:41,640 --> 00:04:44,120 Speaker 5: do want to bring in Manzi and Jason's here as well, 98 00:04:44,320 --> 00:04:46,719 Speaker 5: and I was Sam but Monzi was at the ballpark 99 00:04:46,839 --> 00:04:49,640 Speaker 5: last night. Was it also Yamamoto Bobblehead night? 100 00:04:49,960 --> 00:04:50,120 Speaker 4: Yes? 101 00:04:50,279 --> 00:04:53,600 Speaker 6: Well, yes, so that's the real reason that I needed 102 00:04:53,600 --> 00:04:55,560 Speaker 6: to be there was because of how busy it was 103 00:04:55,600 --> 00:04:59,400 Speaker 6: going to be. But then the Clayton Kershaw landing on 104 00:04:59,440 --> 00:05:03,680 Speaker 6: three strike away made everything extra crazy. Gates opened early 105 00:05:03,760 --> 00:05:07,240 Speaker 6: without them making the announcement because of everyone was in 106 00:05:07,279 --> 00:05:09,240 Speaker 6: their seats like when the game started. 107 00:05:09,440 --> 00:05:10,800 Speaker 1: I remember looking at. 108 00:05:10,640 --> 00:05:13,320 Speaker 6: The corners of the reserve, like where no one sits 109 00:05:13,320 --> 00:05:17,520 Speaker 6: that are always empty. Every seat was pretty much filled 110 00:05:17,920 --> 00:05:20,320 Speaker 6: by the start of the game. Because I mean, not 111 00:05:20,400 --> 00:05:22,440 Speaker 6: that it was going to happen, but imagine he got 112 00:05:22,440 --> 00:05:24,279 Speaker 6: the first three strikeouts in the first seating and you 113 00:05:24,320 --> 00:05:28,440 Speaker 6: missed it, right so everybody was in their seats. Everybody 114 00:05:28,640 --> 00:05:32,680 Speaker 6: was gasping every single time he had so many two 115 00:05:32,760 --> 00:05:36,400 Speaker 6: strikes on players and then a home run, a triple 116 00:05:36,560 --> 00:05:38,279 Speaker 6: of this, Like there were moments where you're like, this 117 00:05:38,320 --> 00:05:41,279 Speaker 6: is it, this is it and no, but uh, he 118 00:05:41,360 --> 00:05:41,720 Speaker 6: got it. 119 00:05:41,880 --> 00:05:45,760 Speaker 5: Can I ask not that I'm interviewing you about last night, 120 00:05:45,800 --> 00:05:48,679 Speaker 5: but I am curious about this because he wasn't available 121 00:05:48,760 --> 00:05:51,080 Speaker 5: last year in the postseason and he still got the 122 00:05:51,320 --> 00:05:55,120 Speaker 5: roar that Aaron talked about when they were celebrating the title. 123 00:05:55,720 --> 00:05:56,880 Speaker 4: Did it feel like this. 124 00:05:57,040 --> 00:06:01,599 Speaker 5: Is like almost not Clinton kur Appreciation night, but this 125 00:06:01,720 --> 00:06:03,560 Speaker 5: could be one of the last opportunities that they can 126 00:06:03,640 --> 00:06:05,480 Speaker 5: really show their love to Clayton Kershaw. 127 00:06:05,760 --> 00:06:07,080 Speaker 4: Did you have that sense at all? 128 00:06:07,279 --> 00:06:09,640 Speaker 1: I did, and you hit it perfectly. 129 00:06:09,640 --> 00:06:11,680 Speaker 6: It's like, I don't exactly know what is going to 130 00:06:11,760 --> 00:06:15,680 Speaker 6: happen with Kershaw after this season. He does not seem 131 00:06:15,760 --> 00:06:18,360 Speaker 6: like the type to do a farewell tour. I think 132 00:06:18,400 --> 00:06:21,280 Speaker 6: he's just gonna announce it and be done. And so 133 00:06:21,400 --> 00:06:24,280 Speaker 6: I do think there was a little bit of yes, 134 00:06:24,440 --> 00:06:27,839 Speaker 6: we may this would might be our only time to 135 00:06:28,120 --> 00:06:31,080 Speaker 6: really tell Kershaw how much we appreciate what he has 136 00:06:31,120 --> 00:06:33,240 Speaker 6: done for eighteen years with the Dodgers. 137 00:06:33,040 --> 00:06:35,640 Speaker 1: And if I can jump in, we're all watching MATSI 138 00:06:35,800 --> 00:06:39,040 Speaker 1: were there. It felt like the hug from Dave Roberts 139 00:06:39,120 --> 00:06:41,919 Speaker 1: was like a little extra loss. Yes, some of the 140 00:06:41,920 --> 00:06:44,840 Speaker 1: individual players, so I, you know, me not being the 141 00:06:44,880 --> 00:06:47,159 Speaker 1: baseball guy that you guys all are, I don't think 142 00:06:47,160 --> 00:06:50,240 Speaker 1: I had that full thought process. But now thinking back 143 00:06:50,279 --> 00:06:53,040 Speaker 1: on the night, it's like, oh, maybe that was kind 144 00:06:53,040 --> 00:06:55,320 Speaker 1: of the unofficial goodbye to the eventual goodbye. 145 00:06:55,640 --> 00:06:57,200 Speaker 6: Yeah, it wouldn't surprise me. 146 00:06:57,480 --> 00:07:00,560 Speaker 5: Yeah, because even if they win it next year, there's 147 00:07:01,080 --> 00:07:03,760 Speaker 5: and I think like last year, there may have been 148 00:07:03,800 --> 00:07:05,000 Speaker 5: a bit of like an absence. 149 00:07:05,279 --> 00:07:06,719 Speaker 4: If he's available for them. 150 00:07:07,000 --> 00:07:09,279 Speaker 5: If he's available for them down the stretch, it'll be great, 151 00:07:09,279 --> 00:07:11,040 Speaker 5: but it'll still be about the back to back and 152 00:07:11,040 --> 00:07:14,480 Speaker 5: it won't necessarily be about him, where last night was 153 00:07:14,520 --> 00:07:18,200 Speaker 5: an opportunity for it to be all about him and 154 00:07:18,240 --> 00:07:20,160 Speaker 5: then he could make whatever decision that he wants, which 155 00:07:20,200 --> 00:07:22,760 Speaker 5: is again, he missed the start of this season, right, 156 00:07:22,840 --> 00:07:25,360 Speaker 5: so it takes him a while to get into to action. 157 00:07:25,480 --> 00:07:28,520 Speaker 5: And you'd have to think that the three thousand strikeout 158 00:07:28,600 --> 00:07:30,600 Speaker 5: goal is a reason on why you want to come 159 00:07:30,640 --> 00:07:33,040 Speaker 5: back and pitch again in addition to getting a ring 160 00:07:33,080 --> 00:07:35,640 Speaker 5: in an addition to throwing in the postseason and getting that. 161 00:07:35,760 --> 00:07:38,480 Speaker 5: But you know, how many more boxes do you need 162 00:07:38,520 --> 00:07:41,880 Speaker 5: to check off the list if you're Clayton Kershaw? There 163 00:07:41,920 --> 00:07:44,080 Speaker 5: were very, very few. And I think last night was 164 00:07:44,120 --> 00:07:44,640 Speaker 5: a big one. 165 00:07:45,280 --> 00:07:48,200 Speaker 4: Yeah it was, Yeah, it was. I just I'm not 166 00:07:48,760 --> 00:07:49,480 Speaker 4: and I'll just say this. 167 00:07:49,920 --> 00:07:51,560 Speaker 5: I think for all of us watching we talk about 168 00:07:51,560 --> 00:07:54,080 Speaker 5: the Clayton Kershaw aspect of it and what a what 169 00:07:54,160 --> 00:07:57,240 Speaker 5: an opportunity it was in final time to say goodbye. 170 00:07:57,840 --> 00:08:00,800 Speaker 5: I feel that this narrative of this is the only 171 00:08:00,880 --> 00:08:03,320 Speaker 5: time we're gonna see it for a long long time 172 00:08:04,240 --> 00:08:07,200 Speaker 5: is a bit misguided. And you want to know why. 173 00:08:08,440 --> 00:08:09,840 Speaker 5: And if you don't want to know, I don't worry. 174 00:08:09,840 --> 00:08:11,800 Speaker 5: I'm still gonna tell you anyway why. 175 00:08:11,840 --> 00:08:12,480 Speaker 2: I want to know why. 176 00:08:12,640 --> 00:08:14,560 Speaker 4: Person, Yeah, Jason, are you interested in this? 177 00:08:15,080 --> 00:08:17,280 Speaker 2: I love it. I'm hanging on every word this is. 178 00:08:17,520 --> 00:08:22,920 Speaker 5: This is why because it's only happened twenty times, and 179 00:08:23,000 --> 00:08:25,840 Speaker 5: so like the thought of like we're not gonna we're 180 00:08:25,840 --> 00:08:30,120 Speaker 5: not gonna see it very often, we don't see it often, 181 00:08:30,320 --> 00:08:32,640 Speaker 5: even when there is a string of guys that we 182 00:08:32,720 --> 00:08:35,320 Speaker 5: think can do it like this is this is the 183 00:08:35,400 --> 00:08:38,400 Speaker 5: twentieth time it's happened in baseball history, and there's a 184 00:08:38,480 --> 00:08:42,520 Speaker 5: majority of the guys in the last forty so years, 185 00:08:43,000 --> 00:08:46,040 Speaker 5: I'd maybe say fifty years or so, guys who started 186 00:08:46,080 --> 00:08:48,360 Speaker 5: in the late fifties and the nineteen sixties that pitched 187 00:08:48,400 --> 00:08:51,440 Speaker 5: into the seventies and eighties. That's where you get a 188 00:08:51,480 --> 00:08:55,320 Speaker 5: majority of these twenty strikeout guys. In fact, only one 189 00:08:55,440 --> 00:09:01,480 Speaker 5: pitcher had three thousand strikeouts that started his career didn't 190 00:09:01,520 --> 00:09:05,200 Speaker 5: pitch like prior to pitched prior to nineteen fifty nine, 191 00:09:05,600 --> 00:09:08,040 Speaker 5: and that was Walter Johnson. So you have this era 192 00:09:08,120 --> 00:09:12,120 Speaker 5: where you have like Bob Gibson, Nolan Ryan, Steve Carlton 193 00:09:12,120 --> 00:09:13,320 Speaker 5: pitched into the early eighties. 194 00:09:13,360 --> 00:09:16,360 Speaker 4: You have Tom sever some of those older arms. But 195 00:09:16,400 --> 00:09:17,360 Speaker 4: then about half the. 196 00:09:17,400 --> 00:09:19,680 Speaker 5: List is made up of names that we all know 197 00:09:19,760 --> 00:09:25,720 Speaker 5: and recognize, including Clayton Kershaw, Max Schurzer, Justin Verlander. So 198 00:09:26,960 --> 00:09:29,839 Speaker 5: my whole thing is, I understand that the pitching, the 199 00:09:30,600 --> 00:09:33,840 Speaker 5: starting pitching role is different than it has been in 200 00:09:33,880 --> 00:09:37,040 Speaker 5: the past, but it's not like this was an easily 201 00:09:37,080 --> 00:09:41,320 Speaker 5: accessible mark at some point, like only twenty guys have 202 00:09:41,480 --> 00:09:43,720 Speaker 5: gotten it. So to think that there won't be a 203 00:09:43,920 --> 00:09:48,240 Speaker 5: unicorn or someone like a Trek Scooble or whoever. Paul 204 00:09:48,280 --> 00:09:50,880 Speaker 5: Skeens is the name that's thrown around the most because 205 00:09:50,880 --> 00:09:54,400 Speaker 5: he's so young and could possibly do it. Just I 206 00:09:54,480 --> 00:09:56,319 Speaker 5: kind of want to pump the brakes on that because 207 00:09:56,400 --> 00:09:58,520 Speaker 5: I feel it diminishes the fact that there are only 208 00:09:58,559 --> 00:10:01,280 Speaker 5: twenty guys that are I've done this, that have. 209 00:10:01,280 --> 00:10:02,400 Speaker 4: Had this accomplishment. 210 00:10:02,559 --> 00:10:04,800 Speaker 5: It's not like there were eighty seven guys and now 211 00:10:04,920 --> 00:10:07,800 Speaker 5: nobody has done it for thirty years. Like we've had 212 00:10:07,840 --> 00:10:10,760 Speaker 5: guys recently do this, and they've been able to do 213 00:10:10,800 --> 00:10:13,160 Speaker 5: it a bit more frequently than say, they did, you know, 214 00:10:13,240 --> 00:10:16,160 Speaker 5: sixty seventy years ago, but it's still only twenty guys 215 00:10:16,160 --> 00:10:18,840 Speaker 5: in Major League Baseball, and I feel like there's a 216 00:10:18,880 --> 00:10:21,000 Speaker 5: little bit almost of like the record of that we'll 217 00:10:21,000 --> 00:10:24,520 Speaker 5: never see this again. Well yeah, well we actually have 218 00:10:24,640 --> 00:10:27,840 Speaker 5: only seen it nineteen other times aside from last night. 219 00:10:28,120 --> 00:10:29,800 Speaker 5: So that's kind of my takeaway of it is it's 220 00:10:29,880 --> 00:10:32,960 Speaker 5: more of like it's a rare feat that we are 221 00:10:33,040 --> 00:10:36,360 Speaker 5: kind of trying to normalize to reflect the state of 222 00:10:36,400 --> 00:10:40,040 Speaker 5: current baseball, and I just don't necessarily think that that 223 00:10:40,120 --> 00:10:40,719 Speaker 5: matches up. 224 00:10:41,040 --> 00:10:42,920 Speaker 1: So that was gonna be. My follow up is you 225 00:10:43,040 --> 00:10:47,080 Speaker 1: think if it doesn't happen, it's not because the role 226 00:10:47,120 --> 00:10:49,400 Speaker 1: of a starting pitcher or the demands of a starting 227 00:10:49,440 --> 00:10:51,760 Speaker 1: pitcher has changed as much as just it doesn't happen 228 00:10:51,800 --> 00:10:55,480 Speaker 1: pretty much anytime. Ever. Anyway, I think. 229 00:10:55,240 --> 00:10:57,880 Speaker 4: That I think it also goes in waves. 230 00:10:58,400 --> 00:11:00,680 Speaker 5: Sure, I don't think that we're gonna end up getting 231 00:11:00,720 --> 00:11:04,160 Speaker 5: to baseball twenty five years and now from now where 232 00:11:04,240 --> 00:11:06,400 Speaker 5: you just have guys pitch one inning and leave. 233 00:11:07,080 --> 00:11:07,760 Speaker 4: Like I think like. 234 00:11:07,840 --> 00:11:11,480 Speaker 5: We're in a certain spot right now. Sure we're seeing 235 00:11:11,600 --> 00:11:15,320 Speaker 5: arm injuries, but things change, and I think at some 236 00:11:15,559 --> 00:11:19,320 Speaker 5: point things could be different, or you can get that uniform, 237 00:11:19,360 --> 00:11:23,360 Speaker 5: that unicorn that leads may the Majors and leads the 238 00:11:23,400 --> 00:11:26,200 Speaker 5: AL or NL and strikeouts year after year after year. 239 00:11:26,800 --> 00:11:29,560 Speaker 5: And that's the one thing that I'm waiting to see. 240 00:11:29,640 --> 00:11:31,720 Speaker 5: Who knows who's going to pitch into their late thirties 241 00:11:31,800 --> 00:11:34,960 Speaker 5: and early forties. If Clayton Kershaw is doing it, and 242 00:11:35,000 --> 00:11:38,240 Speaker 5: Max Scherzer is doing it, and Justin Verlander's doing it, 243 00:11:38,600 --> 00:11:41,520 Speaker 5: who's to say some of these other guys can't necessarily 244 00:11:41,520 --> 00:11:44,559 Speaker 5: do it and also reach that mark at some point. 245 00:11:44,679 --> 00:11:46,480 Speaker 5: I think it's just easy to say. Now, when you 246 00:11:46,520 --> 00:11:48,840 Speaker 5: look at the list and say, well, this is pitching, 247 00:11:48,880 --> 00:11:51,120 Speaker 5: this is how pitching's gone, this is how pitching's going. 248 00:11:51,920 --> 00:11:54,600 Speaker 4: Well, maybe maybe that's the case. 249 00:11:54,720 --> 00:11:57,240 Speaker 5: You have information now, but if you actually look over 250 00:11:57,240 --> 00:12:01,200 Speaker 5: in the past, it's a difficult feat to accomplish, and 251 00:12:01,280 --> 00:12:03,880 Speaker 5: the pitching waves that you've seen, I think it's it's 252 00:12:03,920 --> 00:12:05,960 Speaker 5: been more up and down than in the past. 253 00:12:06,360 --> 00:12:08,440 Speaker 1: Now it makes perfect sense, It makes perfect sense, and 254 00:12:08,600 --> 00:12:14,000 Speaker 1: it was a cool moment, a rare moment. Yeah, I 255 00:12:14,000 --> 00:12:17,360 Speaker 1: don't know. I guess I do lean towards it's probably 256 00:12:17,440 --> 00:12:20,360 Speaker 1: not likely to happen, and I coming into the show 257 00:12:20,679 --> 00:12:23,320 Speaker 1: lean more towards it's probably not gonna happen because of 258 00:12:23,840 --> 00:12:27,000 Speaker 1: again the changes of the expectations of a starting pitcher. 259 00:12:27,240 --> 00:12:28,840 Speaker 1: But I think you've made me kind of reconsider it 260 00:12:28,880 --> 00:12:31,280 Speaker 1: from that perspective as well as it's probably not gonna 261 00:12:31,280 --> 00:12:33,920 Speaker 1: happen again anytime soon, simply because it's just a really 262 00:12:33,960 --> 00:12:34,640 Speaker 1: hard thing to do. 263 00:12:35,400 --> 00:12:35,800 Speaker 4: Manzi. 264 00:12:37,000 --> 00:12:40,800 Speaker 6: I mean, you're being logical here, and it makes sense. 265 00:12:40,840 --> 00:12:44,400 Speaker 6: But I do think it's more of the Yeah, it 266 00:12:44,760 --> 00:12:47,839 Speaker 6: was rare, as it was, I do think we may 267 00:12:47,880 --> 00:12:51,880 Speaker 6: not see it again because of the way pitching has 268 00:12:51,960 --> 00:12:55,320 Speaker 6: gone lately, like you have to expect Paul Skeins to 269 00:12:55,520 --> 00:12:58,559 Speaker 6: not get injured and miss you know, and then if 270 00:12:58,559 --> 00:13:00,920 Speaker 6: he does get injured, to come back and be as 271 00:13:00,920 --> 00:13:03,040 Speaker 6: successful as he was. There's like a lot of factors, 272 00:13:03,040 --> 00:13:06,600 Speaker 6: but I think the big factor is pitch. How we 273 00:13:06,640 --> 00:13:08,800 Speaker 6: are utilizing starting pitchers right now. 274 00:13:08,640 --> 00:13:11,720 Speaker 1: And that's of course assuming that he pitches like years 275 00:13:11,840 --> 00:13:14,200 Speaker 1: exactly years. Yeah, so interesting. 276 00:13:14,880 --> 00:13:18,360 Speaker 5: Jason Stewart, you're a baseball officionado, do you think we'll 277 00:13:18,360 --> 00:13:22,360 Speaker 5: see three thousand and I'm using the air quotes anytime soon. 278 00:13:23,080 --> 00:13:24,960 Speaker 2: I think I was doing the math last night. Right, 279 00:13:25,000 --> 00:13:28,640 Speaker 2: if Chris Sale gets healthy and stays healthy, he's got 280 00:13:28,679 --> 00:13:31,800 Speaker 2: a shot, he gets a ton of strikeouts and a 281 00:13:31,800 --> 00:13:34,120 Speaker 2: short amount of time, he might be the last one. 282 00:13:34,360 --> 00:13:36,400 Speaker 2: But I hope he doesn't. I want Kershout to be 283 00:13:36,480 --> 00:13:39,160 Speaker 2: kind of the pitcher that closes the door on this. 284 00:13:39,559 --> 00:13:42,320 Speaker 2: And I was looking at this last night. So my 285 00:13:42,480 --> 00:13:45,640 Speaker 2: entire lifetime, there have been two benchmarks that guaranteed you 286 00:13:46,120 --> 00:13:49,400 Speaker 2: a Hall of Fame induction, three hundred wins and three 287 00:13:49,440 --> 00:13:55,000 Speaker 2: thousand strikeouts. Right, there are fewer pictures with three thousand 288 00:13:55,000 --> 00:13:59,080 Speaker 2: strikeouts than three hundred wins. I didn't know. That's great. 289 00:13:58,360 --> 00:14:01,480 Speaker 2: I didn't know that, So that kind of speaks to 290 00:14:01,520 --> 00:14:05,640 Speaker 2: this accomplishment. And to Dan's point, it's it's just it's 291 00:14:05,679 --> 00:14:09,520 Speaker 2: so rare. Anyways, it will probably be the last one. 292 00:14:10,120 --> 00:14:12,360 Speaker 2: And I was talking to Ryan Bersching. Are we all 293 00:14:12,440 --> 00:14:15,360 Speaker 2: know Ryan? She actually co hosts. He actually co hosts 294 00:14:15,360 --> 00:14:19,320 Speaker 2: the Sick podcast the Dodgers owned with Monzy Bonios and 295 00:14:19,320 --> 00:14:21,880 Speaker 2: Bill Benson, And I said, I don't think that the 296 00:14:22,440 --> 00:14:25,960 Speaker 2: twenty twenty one or twenty twenty two Dodgers would have 297 00:14:26,040 --> 00:14:28,200 Speaker 2: done what they did last night. In other words, the 298 00:14:28,240 --> 00:14:31,640 Speaker 2: twenty twenty one Dodgers Kershaw would have left without without 299 00:14:31,640 --> 00:14:34,520 Speaker 2: his three thousand k. And he's doing it next week 300 00:14:34,560 --> 00:14:37,640 Speaker 2: in Milwaukee and then and the Dodgers would never have 301 00:14:37,680 --> 00:14:40,000 Speaker 2: won a game like that. But there's something about the 302 00:14:40,040 --> 00:14:43,440 Speaker 2: new Dodgers that meets the moment. Something happened last year, 303 00:14:43,560 --> 00:14:45,720 Speaker 2: some some page was turned and maybe it's the show 304 00:14:45,720 --> 00:14:49,600 Speaker 2: hey thing. But everything happened last night the way it 305 00:14:49,640 --> 00:14:52,320 Speaker 2: was supposed to happen, and that's what kind of made 306 00:14:52,360 --> 00:14:55,640 Speaker 2: it special too. I don't know if the three thousandth 307 00:14:55,760 --> 00:14:59,000 Speaker 2: k is as special without the walk off, you know 308 00:14:59,080 --> 00:15:01,200 Speaker 2: that it was. It's such a cherry on top of 309 00:15:01,240 --> 00:15:03,280 Speaker 2: the cake, you know, well, and it's really funny. So 310 00:15:03,520 --> 00:15:06,280 Speaker 2: Jay stew and MATSI can hop in like something happened. 311 00:15:06,320 --> 00:15:08,640 Speaker 2: So like obviously Dave Roberts was known as like the 312 00:15:08,760 --> 00:15:12,600 Speaker 2: buy the book manager. We stay what happened in the 313 00:15:12,600 --> 00:15:14,560 Speaker 2: play something happened in the playoffs last year? Was it 314 00:15:14,560 --> 00:15:16,680 Speaker 2: the clinching game he kept somebody in or he took 315 00:15:16,680 --> 00:15:18,640 Speaker 2: somebody out earlier where it was like, oh, he has 316 00:15:18,720 --> 00:15:19,840 Speaker 2: never done this before. 317 00:15:20,440 --> 00:15:23,320 Speaker 1: And I don't know if it was in that moment 318 00:15:23,520 --> 00:15:27,040 Speaker 1: or since that moment that to your point, it's like, yes, 319 00:15:27,240 --> 00:15:30,560 Speaker 1: we understand the analytics of it's better to take him 320 00:15:30,560 --> 00:15:32,360 Speaker 1: out after this time as opposed to this time, but 321 00:15:32,440 --> 00:15:35,480 Speaker 1: it is this is a unique situation. I'm just curious, 322 00:15:35,520 --> 00:15:37,360 Speaker 1: Like it does feel like I don't know if it 323 00:15:37,400 --> 00:15:39,800 Speaker 1: was during the playoff run or because they won the 324 00:15:39,840 --> 00:15:41,800 Speaker 1: World Series, but it just does feel like something's a 325 00:15:41,800 --> 00:15:42,720 Speaker 1: little bit different. 326 00:15:42,440 --> 00:15:46,720 Speaker 2: There, absolutely different. And Dave Roberts, to his credit last night, 327 00:15:46,800 --> 00:15:48,800 Speaker 2: and I'm sorry I didn't even hear him afterwards talk 328 00:15:48,800 --> 00:15:51,360 Speaker 2: about it, but I'm guessing he was thinking, I have 329 00:15:51,400 --> 00:15:54,720 Speaker 2: what a thirty eight year old pitcher and I are 330 00:15:54,920 --> 00:15:58,800 Speaker 2: however old he is. He's thrown ninety one pitches. He's 331 00:15:58,840 --> 00:16:01,800 Speaker 2: gotta be gassed. He did have his stuff all night. Yeah, 332 00:16:01,680 --> 00:16:04,560 Speaker 2: watch him anyways. Yeah, and it's like it would have 333 00:16:04,560 --> 00:16:06,920 Speaker 2: been so easy to take him out. I think most 334 00:16:06,960 --> 00:16:09,440 Speaker 2: of the people watching the game thought he was going 335 00:16:09,480 --> 00:16:11,640 Speaker 2: to take him out. So what's surprised all of us 336 00:16:11,640 --> 00:16:13,120 Speaker 2: that he brought him out? And thank god he did. 337 00:16:13,280 --> 00:16:16,200 Speaker 6: Yes, absolutely, I think everybody gasped and cheered when he 338 00:16:16,200 --> 00:16:18,120 Speaker 6: came back out for that final sixth inning. 339 00:16:18,320 --> 00:16:18,600 Speaker 1: Yeah. 340 00:16:18,720 --> 00:16:20,400 Speaker 4: I liked him in that spot. I really did. 341 00:16:21,040 --> 00:16:23,760 Speaker 6: And yeah, Dave Roberts, like he really did make. It 342 00:16:23,800 --> 00:16:28,640 Speaker 6: wasn't one move, Aaron, because of the numerous pitchers that 343 00:16:28,680 --> 00:16:31,840 Speaker 6: we had on il the moves that he made, it 344 00:16:31,880 --> 00:16:34,560 Speaker 6: wasn't one too. He made a lot of really good 345 00:16:34,640 --> 00:16:37,040 Speaker 6: moves which he maybe had not in the past. 346 00:16:37,200 --> 00:16:39,760 Speaker 1: I just remember, as a guy who admittedly is a 347 00:16:39,800 --> 00:16:42,560 Speaker 1: casual baseball fan but was also critical of being two 348 00:16:42,560 --> 00:16:46,360 Speaker 1: by the books, two analytical in previous World Series runs, 349 00:16:46,360 --> 00:16:49,560 Speaker 1: I remember being impressed by him, like I am like 350 00:16:49,600 --> 00:16:51,720 Speaker 1: an old school baseball fan of like you go with 351 00:16:51,840 --> 00:16:54,080 Speaker 1: the feel of the game, and like it's not to 352 00:16:54,120 --> 00:16:56,080 Speaker 1: say that the picture if he doesn't throw one hundred 353 00:16:56,080 --> 00:16:57,640 Speaker 1: and twenty pitches. He's not a real man. Like, that's 354 00:16:57,680 --> 00:16:59,760 Speaker 1: not what I'm saying. But like what I am saying is, 355 00:16:59,760 --> 00:17:01,480 Speaker 1: you know, we all go back to the famous you know, 356 00:17:01,520 --> 00:17:03,280 Speaker 1: Blake Snell, and I know it wasn't the Dodgers remembered 357 00:17:03,320 --> 00:17:05,080 Speaker 1: he got taken out like the fifth inning of a 358 00:17:05,160 --> 00:17:08,159 Speaker 1: clinching Gay era, you know, losing go home game of 359 00:17:08,200 --> 00:17:09,960 Speaker 1: the World Series, and everybody's like, what are we doing? 360 00:17:10,359 --> 00:17:12,719 Speaker 1: And I just seem to remember last year it was 361 00:17:13,160 --> 00:17:15,880 Speaker 1: the balance of Okay, we understand the analytics and they 362 00:17:15,960 --> 00:17:19,400 Speaker 1: are important in our decision making process, but I'm gonna 363 00:17:19,400 --> 00:17:21,480 Speaker 1: go a little bit of feel old school this and that. 364 00:17:21,560 --> 00:17:23,320 Speaker 1: So it's just something that I remembered that kind of 365 00:17:23,359 --> 00:17:24,320 Speaker 1: played into last night. 366 00:17:24,480 --> 00:17:26,320 Speaker 5: Well it's also, you know, to Manzi's point, even though 367 00:17:26,320 --> 00:17:29,840 Speaker 5: it was Yamamoto babblehead night, Kershaw's next start is scheduled 368 00:17:29,840 --> 00:17:30,719 Speaker 5: to be in Milwaukee. 369 00:17:31,000 --> 00:17:32,280 Speaker 4: You know, do you wanna do you want? 370 00:17:32,440 --> 00:17:35,439 Speaker 5: I mean, he could give up nineteen runs in that inning, 371 00:17:35,600 --> 00:17:37,280 Speaker 5: but if you know, if he was gonna get he 372 00:17:37,320 --> 00:17:39,600 Speaker 5: was gonna get that strikeout at some point, just leave 373 00:17:39,680 --> 00:17:42,359 Speaker 5: him on, leave him out there? Can I quick, just 374 00:17:42,400 --> 00:17:47,240 Speaker 5: go back to just the numbers sort of thing, because 375 00:17:48,080 --> 00:17:52,439 Speaker 5: this is the as I look at these numbers, Randy 376 00:17:52,520 --> 00:17:57,080 Speaker 5: Johnson absurd right there. So Randy Johnson's second all time 377 00:17:57,119 --> 00:18:01,359 Speaker 5: in strikeouts through about twelve hundred, in less than Nolan Ryan, 378 00:18:01,400 --> 00:18:04,440 Speaker 5: and his only nine hundred strikeouts shy of him all time. 379 00:18:04,760 --> 00:18:07,359 Speaker 5: So Randy Johnson was leading the league in strikeouts in 380 00:18:07,359 --> 00:18:10,240 Speaker 5: the late nineties and early two thousands with three hundred 381 00:18:10,280 --> 00:18:13,200 Speaker 5: and sixty four three hundred and seventy two, three hundred 382 00:18:13,240 --> 00:18:17,520 Speaker 5: and thirty four strikeouts. To Jason's point about Chris Sale, 383 00:18:17,840 --> 00:18:22,200 Speaker 5: Chris Sale has led the league strikeouts before, but only 384 00:18:22,240 --> 00:18:25,760 Speaker 5: once in his careers he thrown three hundred or more strikeouts. 385 00:18:26,359 --> 00:18:32,199 Speaker 5: So the question becomes, I think, is longevity. Yeah, so 386 00:18:33,040 --> 00:18:36,080 Speaker 5: if you're a pitcher like Spencer Strider at two hundred 387 00:18:36,119 --> 00:18:38,000 Speaker 5: and eighty strikeouts a couple of years ago, it's best 388 00:18:38,040 --> 00:18:41,119 Speaker 5: in the National League. He underwent Tommy John surgery. I 389 00:18:41,119 --> 00:18:43,439 Speaker 5: know he's not having the greatest year this year, but 390 00:18:43,520 --> 00:18:45,520 Speaker 5: you would have to think that Spencer Strider's career is 391 00:18:45,560 --> 00:18:48,840 Speaker 5: going to last long. I think that's the true test 392 00:18:48,880 --> 00:18:53,120 Speaker 5: of time. If you consistently can be there for your team, 393 00:18:53,160 --> 00:18:56,320 Speaker 5: which again is a huge ask because again, only twenty 394 00:18:56,359 --> 00:19:00,119 Speaker 5: guys have done it. It's not necessarily just the power pitch. 395 00:19:00,640 --> 00:19:04,119 Speaker 5: I don't think it's necessarily the new way of baseball 396 00:19:04,200 --> 00:19:05,880 Speaker 5: because you're not playing the new way of. 397 00:19:05,800 --> 00:19:07,400 Speaker 4: Baseball with your horses. 398 00:19:08,000 --> 00:19:11,359 Speaker 5: I think it's just it's maybe different early in Schemes's 399 00:19:11,480 --> 00:19:14,680 Speaker 5: career because you're trying to all right, let's not burn 400 00:19:14,760 --> 00:19:17,199 Speaker 5: him out so quickly. But at some point he's going 401 00:19:17,240 --> 00:19:20,879 Speaker 5: to carry a load that's like a Garrett Cole workload, 402 00:19:21,320 --> 00:19:23,359 Speaker 5: who again could be close as well. He's got his 403 00:19:23,400 --> 00:19:26,399 Speaker 5: own arm injuries and Tommy John surgery to deal with. 404 00:19:26,800 --> 00:19:28,560 Speaker 5: But like to sit there and say, like, we're never 405 00:19:28,600 --> 00:19:31,000 Speaker 5: going to see this again, it's tough to say because 406 00:19:31,000 --> 00:19:32,320 Speaker 5: you don't know if a twenty two year old's going 407 00:19:32,359 --> 00:19:34,600 Speaker 5: to pitch fifteen years in the majors, you know what 408 00:19:34,640 --> 00:19:37,679 Speaker 5: I mean. So, and that's just where I go with 409 00:19:37,760 --> 00:19:42,400 Speaker 5: this of like, we want to make these these proclamations 410 00:19:42,400 --> 00:19:44,520 Speaker 5: about the state of pitching in the Major League Baseball, 411 00:19:44,640 --> 00:19:47,639 Speaker 5: most of which are true, But there are different types 412 00:19:47,640 --> 00:19:50,480 Speaker 5: of guys out there, and those are the guys that 413 00:19:50,520 --> 00:19:52,240 Speaker 5: could be number twenty one or twenty. 414 00:19:51,960 --> 00:19:54,560 Speaker 1: Two well, and I think to your point earlier, sports 415 00:19:54,640 --> 00:19:57,240 Speaker 1: are cyclical, and like the reference you made about the 416 00:19:57,280 --> 00:19:59,719 Speaker 1: run game, right, it was like five years ago. You 417 00:19:59,720 --> 00:20:02,280 Speaker 1: can't draft are running back in the first round. It's 418 00:20:02,320 --> 00:20:04,439 Speaker 1: the dumbest thing you've ever done. It's like, who are 419 00:20:04,480 --> 00:20:07,120 Speaker 1: the two most valuable players in the league last year? 420 00:20:07,600 --> 00:20:09,080 Speaker 1: I know who won the award, but it was probably 421 00:20:09,080 --> 00:20:10,440 Speaker 1: Saquon Barkley and Derrick Henry. 422 00:20:10,480 --> 00:20:10,639 Speaker 4: You know. 423 00:20:10,720 --> 00:20:15,080 Speaker 1: It's like basketball, Oh, death of the Center. I don't know. 424 00:20:15,160 --> 00:20:17,320 Speaker 1: I watched Joe Yo Kitchen the playoffs this year. He's 425 00:20:17,359 --> 00:20:19,800 Speaker 1: pretty good, you know, And it's like, so, you know, 426 00:20:20,080 --> 00:20:24,159 Speaker 1: I don't know, you know, I don't know when it 427 00:20:24,200 --> 00:20:26,760 Speaker 1: would happen, or how it would happen, or what the 428 00:20:26,800 --> 00:20:30,920 Speaker 1: circumstances would be. Where pitchers just in general are kind 429 00:20:30,960 --> 00:20:33,040 Speaker 1: of given a longer leash. Maybe maybe at some point 430 00:20:33,080 --> 00:20:35,120 Speaker 1: the analytics back up that you don't need to pull 431 00:20:35,200 --> 00:20:39,560 Speaker 1: him after you know, seventy five eighty eighty five pitches whatever. 432 00:20:39,800 --> 00:20:41,320 Speaker 1: But to your point, and I do think it is 433 00:20:41,320 --> 00:20:43,639 Speaker 1: an important one, is sports are cyclical, and even just 434 00:20:43,720 --> 00:20:46,720 Speaker 1: in the time that we've been doing this, how many 435 00:20:46,800 --> 00:20:51,040 Speaker 1: things are are etched in stone as certainty. Again, run game. 436 00:20:51,119 --> 00:20:55,680 Speaker 1: It's dead. The center it's dead. The SEC is definitively 437 00:20:55,880 --> 00:20:59,000 Speaker 1: better than the Big Ten in college football. Well, you 438 00:20:59,000 --> 00:21:02,000 Speaker 1: know it's a cyclical. All of a sudden, we have 439 00:21:02,040 --> 00:21:04,040 Speaker 1: back to back Big Ten champions. So I think that's 440 00:21:04,040 --> 00:21:06,119 Speaker 1: an interesting point as well, is that I think we 441 00:21:06,200 --> 00:21:08,439 Speaker 1: do get caught up in a moment too much, and 442 00:21:08,520 --> 00:21:10,920 Speaker 1: sometimes things do kind of revert back to things that 443 00:21:10,960 --> 00:21:12,200 Speaker 1: we're not necessarily expecting. 444 00:21:12,680 --> 00:21:15,919 Speaker 5: He's Aeron Torres. I'm Dan Bayer. That's Montsi Belanios at 445 00:21:15,920 --> 00:21:19,920 Speaker 5: the news desk. 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I 474 00:22:51,160 --> 00:22:53,840 Speaker 5: just want to say one more thing about the strikeout stuff. 475 00:22:54,119 --> 00:22:56,240 Speaker 5: Do it because Aaron I don't want to make it 476 00:22:56,280 --> 00:23:01,520 Speaker 5: so convoluted in messy. Every pitcher has a chance to 477 00:23:01,560 --> 00:23:04,240 Speaker 5: throw three thousand strikeouts in his career right. 478 00:23:04,400 --> 00:23:06,240 Speaker 1: Surely there is a. 479 00:23:06,240 --> 00:23:08,680 Speaker 5: Small part, and that's part of my argument. There's only 480 00:23:08,680 --> 00:23:11,040 Speaker 5: twenty guys who have done it, and there are may 481 00:23:11,040 --> 00:23:13,880 Speaker 5: be only so many that were ever capable of doing so, 482 00:23:14,400 --> 00:23:17,119 Speaker 5: because a number two or number three starter just isn't 483 00:23:17,240 --> 00:23:20,040 Speaker 5: that they're not going to get to that point. But 484 00:23:20,160 --> 00:23:23,120 Speaker 5: we're talking about the number one starters and the aces 485 00:23:23,200 --> 00:23:26,800 Speaker 5: and the cy Young Award winners like Paul Skeens could 486 00:23:26,800 --> 00:23:30,120 Speaker 5: be someday. And I think Skeens is the perfect example 487 00:23:30,760 --> 00:23:32,920 Speaker 5: because if you look at what Skeens has done this year, 488 00:23:33,600 --> 00:23:37,920 Speaker 5: he's thrown anywhere from between eighty five to one hundred 489 00:23:37,920 --> 00:23:40,480 Speaker 5: and five pitches in every one of his starts. Because 490 00:23:40,480 --> 00:23:42,560 Speaker 5: they've all been really good starts. He hasn't needed to 491 00:23:42,560 --> 00:23:45,960 Speaker 5: be pulled through a four hitning game in Milwaukee recently. 492 00:23:46,000 --> 00:23:48,600 Speaker 5: That was the shortest outing of the season. But other 493 00:23:48,680 --> 00:23:50,919 Speaker 5: than that, he's been really, really good. He's probably going 494 00:23:51,000 --> 00:23:53,600 Speaker 5: to throw two hundred innings this year. He'll top two 495 00:23:53,680 --> 00:23:57,200 Speaker 5: hundred strikeouts, about a strikeout per inning. He just turned 496 00:23:57,240 --> 00:24:01,720 Speaker 5: twenty three years old. Clayton Kershaw's what thirty seven years old? 497 00:24:02,240 --> 00:24:06,560 Speaker 5: Justin Verlanders forty two Max Scherzers forty. So Paul Skeens, 498 00:24:06,600 --> 00:24:09,840 Speaker 5: we have eighteen years of pitching in front of him, 499 00:24:10,600 --> 00:24:11,879 Speaker 5: and all. 500 00:24:11,760 --> 00:24:12,400 Speaker 4: You have to do. 501 00:24:12,560 --> 00:24:15,920 Speaker 5: And it makes it sound simple, But of those eighteen years, 502 00:24:15,920 --> 00:24:18,200 Speaker 5: if ten of those years you have two hundred strikeouts, 503 00:24:18,760 --> 00:24:22,000 Speaker 5: you're already at two thousand, okay, and then you maybe 504 00:24:22,080 --> 00:24:24,520 Speaker 5: have a couple more of two point fifty. Now you're 505 00:24:24,520 --> 00:24:27,200 Speaker 5: at twenty five hundred and twenty six hundred. That's who 506 00:24:27,240 --> 00:24:30,440 Speaker 5: we're talking about. So there's only a selected group of players. 507 00:24:30,440 --> 00:24:33,399 Speaker 5: But to say that that select group is unable to 508 00:24:33,440 --> 00:24:36,040 Speaker 5: do it because of the current pitching style in Major 509 00:24:36,119 --> 00:24:38,760 Speaker 5: League Baseball or how we look at pitching, I just 510 00:24:38,800 --> 00:24:40,480 Speaker 5: don't think it's correct because I think it was just 511 00:24:40,560 --> 00:24:44,119 Speaker 5: such a rare class anyway, But someone likes Skeens, a 512 00:24:44,160 --> 00:24:47,120 Speaker 5: young pitcher like that, could have the ability to do So. 513 00:24:47,119 --> 00:24:49,639 Speaker 1: Okay, I want to ask you a very random question 514 00:24:49,680 --> 00:24:54,040 Speaker 1: that is tied into this. Okay, So you reference like longevity, 515 00:24:54,640 --> 00:24:58,840 Speaker 1: and I'm curious do you think like so we all 516 00:24:58,880 --> 00:25:02,000 Speaker 1: we seen across sport, right, Like, obviously Tom Brady did 517 00:25:02,040 --> 00:25:05,760 Speaker 1: things into his forties that no one's ever done. Lebron, 518 00:25:05,880 --> 00:25:09,040 Speaker 1: for all the criticism, played very well into his forties, 519 00:25:09,080 --> 00:25:11,600 Speaker 1: we'll see what his future is. I guess my question 520 00:25:11,680 --> 00:25:15,360 Speaker 1: is I think we default too, like, well, I mean, 521 00:25:15,400 --> 00:25:18,600 Speaker 1: look at how much this has changed and that has changed, 522 00:25:18,640 --> 00:25:21,719 Speaker 1: and guys can just play into their forties now, and 523 00:25:21,760 --> 00:25:25,359 Speaker 1: it's like then you actually watch the NFL and it's like, oh, 524 00:25:25,600 --> 00:25:28,760 Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers isn't even a shell of what he was 525 00:25:28,800 --> 00:25:31,119 Speaker 1: like four years ago. And so I guess the question 526 00:25:31,160 --> 00:25:33,640 Speaker 1: that I'm asking, and it does pertain to this, because 527 00:25:33,960 --> 00:25:36,440 Speaker 1: I think there's two sides to this is like, there's 528 00:25:36,480 --> 00:25:40,520 Speaker 1: the default of well, the technology is getting better, and 529 00:25:40,640 --> 00:25:43,480 Speaker 1: the treatments are getting better, and the travels better and 530 00:25:43,480 --> 00:25:46,800 Speaker 1: the nutrition's better, so everyone is going to be able 531 00:25:46,840 --> 00:25:49,280 Speaker 1: to stay at a higher level longer. But then I 532 00:25:49,320 --> 00:25:52,040 Speaker 1: also think there's the inverse of that, which is that 533 00:25:52,400 --> 00:25:55,280 Speaker 1: basically there's an exception to every rule, and the exception 534 00:25:55,480 --> 00:25:58,520 Speaker 1: makes the rule of a Tom Brady of a Lebron James. 535 00:25:58,800 --> 00:26:02,480 Speaker 1: And I'm just curious, like just like, and Kershaw's not 536 00:26:02,760 --> 00:26:04,760 Speaker 1: a good example of this necessarily, but I think it's 537 00:26:04,800 --> 00:26:08,200 Speaker 1: an interesting conversation in sports in general, if that makes sense. 538 00:26:08,880 --> 00:26:14,000 Speaker 5: And I I'll say this to that, like, Kershaw's meaningful 539 00:26:14,040 --> 00:26:17,320 Speaker 5: baseball because of the injuries over the last couple of years, 540 00:26:18,760 --> 00:26:21,600 Speaker 5: it hasn't been there. But that doesn't that doesn't that 541 00:26:21,680 --> 00:26:23,359 Speaker 5: like that didn't matter last night. Like he may have 542 00:26:23,680 --> 00:26:28,040 Speaker 5: meaning meaningful baseball for him coming up this postseason, but 543 00:26:28,160 --> 00:26:32,479 Speaker 5: it's like last night was the opportunity to honor and 544 00:26:32,560 --> 00:26:35,280 Speaker 5: really recognize all that he has done in his career 545 00:26:35,840 --> 00:26:36,359 Speaker 5: and make. 546 00:26:36,280 --> 00:26:38,200 Speaker 4: It his his own nights. 547 00:26:38,280 --> 00:26:40,760 Speaker 5: You don't have to be necessarily even on the top 548 00:26:40,840 --> 00:26:44,480 Speaker 5: of your game like an Aaron Rodgers would be for 549 00:26:44,520 --> 00:26:48,880 Speaker 5: the Pittsburgh Steelers or for the New York Jets, because 550 00:26:50,280 --> 00:26:52,560 Speaker 5: it I think it validates. 551 00:26:52,040 --> 00:26:55,600 Speaker 4: Everything that you did during the prime of your career. Yeah, 552 00:26:55,960 --> 00:26:58,399 Speaker 4: I am. I answering what you're part of. 553 00:26:58,440 --> 00:27:00,560 Speaker 1: It was more of an abstract question. And I just 554 00:27:00,600 --> 00:27:03,399 Speaker 1: think that we default too because and I think it 555 00:27:03,520 --> 00:27:06,360 Speaker 1: ties into the Kershaw conversation of I think we default 556 00:27:06,359 --> 00:27:08,400 Speaker 1: to well, guys are just gonna be able to play 557 00:27:08,440 --> 00:27:13,000 Speaker 1: longer because you know, the tech again, the nutrition's better 558 00:27:13,000 --> 00:27:14,840 Speaker 1: and the health is better and whatever. And I don't 559 00:27:14,880 --> 00:27:18,040 Speaker 1: think that we can just default to well because Tom 560 00:27:18,080 --> 00:27:20,600 Speaker 1: Brady played till he was forty five and was basically 561 00:27:20,680 --> 00:27:24,240 Speaker 1: awesome till his last year that like everyone is now 562 00:27:24,240 --> 00:27:25,840 Speaker 1: going to be able to play in their forties, because 563 00:27:25,840 --> 00:27:28,000 Speaker 1: I think we have two pretty good examples of all 564 00:27:28,080 --> 00:27:31,639 Speaker 1: time talents in Breeze and Rogers, who fell off pretty 565 00:27:31,680 --> 00:27:33,760 Speaker 1: quickly once they got to the thirty eight thirty nine 566 00:27:33,760 --> 00:27:34,240 Speaker 1: to forty range. 567 00:27:34,359 --> 00:27:36,720 Speaker 5: But I would also say that they're like, there's there's 568 00:27:36,760 --> 00:27:40,280 Speaker 5: not a lot of Jamie Moyer's around major League Baseball anymore, right, 569 00:27:40,400 --> 00:27:43,880 Speaker 5: like gots you just like they hung around, they were 570 00:27:43,920 --> 00:27:46,240 Speaker 5: good pictures. You could always rely on them, and they're 571 00:27:46,240 --> 00:27:49,239 Speaker 5: gonna throw Like instead of having Jamie Moyer, why not 572 00:27:49,320 --> 00:27:51,879 Speaker 5: just bring up the twenty four year old kid right 573 00:27:51,920 --> 00:27:54,240 Speaker 5: that throws heat or however you want to do it. 574 00:27:54,520 --> 00:27:57,200 Speaker 5: And that's why I think, like with like these rules 575 00:27:57,240 --> 00:28:02,440 Speaker 5: for these special young talented arms are different from everyone else, 576 00:28:03,119 --> 00:28:06,280 Speaker 5: and you're just like you want to protect Paul Skin. 577 00:28:06,400 --> 00:28:09,320 Speaker 5: So the Pirates limit his innings last year, but still 578 00:28:09,560 --> 00:28:12,840 Speaker 5: he just turned twenty three. He's got a heavier workload 579 00:28:12,880 --> 00:28:15,480 Speaker 5: this time around, and at some point during his career 580 00:28:15,480 --> 00:28:17,919 Speaker 5: when he's twenty eight, twenty nine to thirty, he should 581 00:28:17,920 --> 00:28:20,560 Speaker 5: be able to handle that sort of workload where you're 582 00:28:20,560 --> 00:28:24,600 Speaker 5: not babying him and when he's making the millions upon 583 00:28:24,720 --> 00:28:29,160 Speaker 5: millions and maybe half a billion dollars when he gets 584 00:28:29,240 --> 00:28:34,280 Speaker 5: his next contract. It's you're gonna expect that sort of workload. Now, 585 00:28:34,280 --> 00:28:36,359 Speaker 5: will that wear him out or not? A different story, 586 00:28:36,400 --> 00:28:41,080 Speaker 5: But yeah, I think that maybe that'll help you know 587 00:28:41,160 --> 00:28:44,280 Speaker 5: the players to your point of just things getting better 588 00:28:44,280 --> 00:28:46,760 Speaker 5: and allowing guys to do so, maybe we're playing at 589 00:28:46,800 --> 00:28:47,640 Speaker 5: a higher level. 590 00:28:47,960 --> 00:28:50,880 Speaker 4: I'm not sure, but I do find the whole deal fascinating. 591 00:28:51,000 --> 00:28:52,480 Speaker 1: Now, let's sake that fascinating ahead. 592 00:28:52,520 --> 00:28:55,320 Speaker 5: Yeah, let's jump over to Monte Milanios. She's at the 593 00:28:55,320 --> 00:28:57,440 Speaker 5: news desk giving us the latest. Then we're going to 594 00:28:57,480 --> 00:29:01,680 Speaker 5: hear from the WNBA's latest souper stars. She's our superstar, Matzi, 595 00:29:01,720 --> 00:29:02,280 Speaker 5: what's going on? 596 00:29:02,520 --> 00:29:05,560 Speaker 6: I had to check Paul Skeins's strikeouts for last year 597 00:29:05,600 --> 00:29:08,160 Speaker 6: because yes, like if you think two hundred, you know 598 00:29:08,360 --> 00:29:10,920 Speaker 6: a season, it'll it'll get him there. So last year 599 00:29:10,960 --> 00:29:14,840 Speaker 6: he had one hundred and seventy strikeouts and right now 600 00:29:14,880 --> 00:29:19,960 Speaker 6: he has one hundred and fifteen, so something to and we're. 601 00:29:19,800 --> 00:29:20,840 Speaker 4: Halfway through the season. 602 00:29:21,000 --> 00:29:23,960 Speaker 1: Yes, yes, if he continues. 603 00:29:23,800 --> 00:29:25,840 Speaker 5: The Pirates probably won't be in it at the end. 604 00:29:25,840 --> 00:29:30,680 Speaker 5: They airplaying better baseball right now. But he's he's probably 605 00:29:30,680 --> 00:29:32,959 Speaker 5: gonna gets through, gonna throw about two hundred and eight 606 00:29:33,080 --> 00:29:35,440 Speaker 5: inches this year, still have about two hundred strikeouts. 607 00:29:35,560 --> 00:29:38,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, so he're right, he can get there. 608 00:29:38,120 --> 00:29:39,160 Speaker 6: He can get there. 609 00:29:39,680 --> 00:29:41,880 Speaker 5: Or as those all about this and you you know, 610 00:29:42,080 --> 00:29:45,720 Speaker 5: get that Vcu Butler Final four, even if your Huskies 611 00:29:45,760 --> 00:29:48,120 Speaker 5: win it, Like that's what's happening at Wimbledon. 612 00:29:49,000 --> 00:29:51,320 Speaker 1: One of the all time great Dan Bayer takes the 613 00:29:51,440 --> 00:29:56,560 Speaker 1: difference in grass at Wimbledon between day one and day seventeen. 614 00:29:56,920 --> 00:29:58,880 Speaker 1: D Now you're like, it's one of my favorite SATs 615 00:29:59,080 --> 00:30:02,360 Speaker 1: in sports, the grass at Wimbledon on day one. Yeah, 616 00:30:02,360 --> 00:30:03,480 Speaker 1: and then it's all downhill from there. 617 00:30:04,400 --> 00:30:05,760 Speaker 4: And I brought it up earlier this week. 618 00:30:06,160 --> 00:30:08,160 Speaker 5: So just so yes, absolutely, just I know I do 619 00:30:08,240 --> 00:30:10,400 Speaker 5: it every single year because it is my favorite part. 620 00:30:11,200 --> 00:30:14,560 Speaker 5: It looks magnificent. By the way, it's mancy that that 621 00:30:15,000 --> 00:30:17,240 Speaker 5: call because of curfew number one. It's one of the 622 00:30:17,280 --> 00:30:20,400 Speaker 5: reasons why I love Wimbledon. They're like, yeah, tough beans, 623 00:30:20,440 --> 00:30:22,040 Speaker 5: got to shut it down. But it's like the rain 624 00:30:22,120 --> 00:30:24,360 Speaker 5: out when it doesn't rain, Like you don't want to 625 00:30:24,360 --> 00:30:25,760 Speaker 5: start the game because you don't want to throw the 626 00:30:25,800 --> 00:30:28,239 Speaker 5: pitchers out there, have them throw two innings and then 627 00:30:28,320 --> 00:30:29,920 Speaker 5: call the game and not be able to finish it. 628 00:30:30,240 --> 00:30:31,520 Speaker 5: But there are times where are like, you know what, 629 00:30:31,560 --> 00:30:33,600 Speaker 5: we're not going to play today, We'll just play a 630 00:30:33,640 --> 00:30:34,479 Speaker 5: doubleheader tomorrow. 631 00:30:34,560 --> 00:30:36,760 Speaker 4: And then the rain never came and teams are like, 632 00:30:37,240 --> 00:30:39,640 Speaker 4: why didn't we play? That's kind of where I think 633 00:30:39,640 --> 00:30:43,840 Speaker 4: Wimbledon is. Maybe they could continue, but I read that. 634 00:30:43,840 --> 00:30:46,520 Speaker 6: The curfew was eleven and y local time it was 635 00:30:46,600 --> 00:30:47,120 Speaker 6: nine thirty. 636 00:30:47,640 --> 00:30:49,760 Speaker 1: I know since like the whole Yeah, no, I would 637 00:30:49,760 --> 00:30:50,840 Speaker 1: have been mad. I would have been mad. 638 00:30:50,960 --> 00:30:53,719 Speaker 6: I would have lost it. I would have gone out swinging. 639 00:30:54,520 --> 00:30:57,480 Speaker 5: Hit her up at Manzi Milanos. Find Aaron at Aaron 640 00:30:57,520 --> 00:30:59,680 Speaker 5: Underscore Tores. You can find me at dan byer On. 641 00:31:00,640 --> 00:31:04,480 Speaker 5: I mentioned the WNBA's newest star had something to say. 642 00:31:05,040 --> 00:31:07,320 Speaker 5: Sophie Cunningham has had a lot of good will come 643 00:31:07,400 --> 00:31:10,280 Speaker 5: her way, but she was in some hot water recently. 644 00:31:10,360 --> 00:31:12,080 Speaker 4: We're gonna hear from her in a bit. 645 00:31:12,200 --> 00:31:13,560 Speaker 5: First, I got to tell you that this hour is 646 00:31:13,560 --> 00:31:16,560 Speaker 5: brought to you by Travis Matthew Apparel, designed for confidence 647 00:31:16,600 --> 00:31:19,040 Speaker 5: and comfort no matter where the day takes you. Visit 648 00:31:19,120 --> 00:31:21,600 Speaker 5: Travismathew dot com and received twenty percent off your first 649 00:31:21,720 --> 00:31:24,239 Speaker 5: order when you sign up for email. That's Travismathew dot 650 00:31:24,280 --> 00:31:26,520 Speaker 5: com for twenty percent off your first order when you 651 00:31:26,640 --> 00:31:30,240 Speaker 5: sign up for email. So was Sophie Cunningham able to 652 00:31:30,280 --> 00:31:32,360 Speaker 5: take the foot out of her mouth? You'll find out 653 00:31:32,440 --> 00:31:34,600 Speaker 5: next year. He's eron Torres. I'm Dan Byer in for 654 00:31:34,680 --> 00:31:36,280 Speaker 5: Comuno and Rich on Fox Sports Radio. 655 00:31:36,480 --> 00:31:39,080 Speaker 8: Fox Sports Radio had the best sports talk lineup in 656 00:31:39,120 --> 00:31:42,440 Speaker 8: the nation. Catch all of our shows at Foxsportsradio dot 657 00:31:42,560 --> 00:31:44,440 Speaker 8: com and within the iHeartRadio app. 658 00:31:46,560 --> 00:31:50,440 Speaker 5: It's Covino and Rich here on Fox Sports Radio. Later 659 00:31:50,560 --> 00:31:52,000 Speaker 5: out on the show, we get to maybe the most 660 00:31:52,000 --> 00:31:55,200 Speaker 5: overblown story in the NBA. He is aeron Torres. I'm 661 00:31:55,280 --> 00:31:58,600 Speaker 5: Dan Byer. Jason Stewart's here, as is Mancy Belangios in Iowa, 662 00:31:58,680 --> 00:32:03,160 Speaker 5: Sam the WNBA eron Torres. I would argue that the 663 00:32:03,280 --> 00:32:07,360 Speaker 5: biggest winner of the season so far has been Sophie 664 00:32:07,360 --> 00:32:11,479 Speaker 5: Cunningham of the Indiana Fever. My goodness, her stardom has 665 00:32:11,640 --> 00:32:17,840 Speaker 5: absolutely skyrocketed from one gesture of kindness towards her teammate, 666 00:32:18,200 --> 00:32:21,160 Speaker 5: and granted I meant shoving another player from another team, 667 00:32:21,800 --> 00:32:26,600 Speaker 5: but Sophie Cunningham's spotlight in the WNBA has magnified by 668 00:32:26,840 --> 00:32:29,440 Speaker 5: about one hundred for her stricking up for Caitlin Clark. 669 00:32:30,200 --> 00:32:34,240 Speaker 1: I'm sure she gave that shove to that Connecticut Sun 670 00:32:34,320 --> 00:32:37,680 Speaker 1: player for altruistic reasons, and she loves Caitland Clark and 671 00:32:37,720 --> 00:32:41,760 Speaker 1: their best friends and whatever. It is kind of amazing, though, 672 00:32:42,040 --> 00:32:45,360 Speaker 1: Like you know, I've said this many times, Dany, You've 673 00:32:45,360 --> 00:32:46,960 Speaker 1: probably even heard me say. I've probably said it on 674 00:32:47,080 --> 00:32:50,479 Speaker 1: something I've done with you. I'm still blown away by 675 00:32:50,680 --> 00:32:53,920 Speaker 1: how big Caitlyn Clark is. But I only bring it 676 00:32:54,040 --> 00:32:56,760 Speaker 1: up because if you need proof as to how big 677 00:32:56,840 --> 00:33:00,840 Speaker 1: Caitlyn Clark is, Sophie Cunningham is arguably the second biggest 678 00:33:00,880 --> 00:33:04,080 Speaker 1: player in the league right now from a profile perspective, 679 00:33:04,560 --> 00:33:09,680 Speaker 1: strictly because she just stood up for Kitlyn Clark eighteen months. 680 00:33:10,360 --> 00:33:13,440 Speaker 1: It could have been anybody eighteen months. All anybody had 681 00:33:13,480 --> 00:33:15,800 Speaker 1: to do was be like, you know, she's pretty awesome, 682 00:33:16,000 --> 00:33:18,840 Speaker 1: I like her being my teammate, and nobody would do it, 683 00:33:19,080 --> 00:33:21,520 Speaker 1: or another player, Oh she's pretty good, I respect her, 684 00:33:21,800 --> 00:33:25,040 Speaker 1: and nobody would do it. And all Sophie Cuttingham did 685 00:33:25,200 --> 00:33:28,880 Speaker 1: was like hard foul, I'm defending my teammate. And I'll 686 00:33:28,920 --> 00:33:31,960 Speaker 1: say this. I mean, we were all calling for someone 687 00:33:32,080 --> 00:33:34,840 Speaker 1: to stand up for Caitlyn Clark last year. I'm glad 688 00:33:34,920 --> 00:33:38,960 Speaker 1: it happened, but it is amazing to me that that's 689 00:33:39,120 --> 00:33:41,960 Speaker 1: literally all it took to become the second most popular 690 00:33:42,000 --> 00:33:43,800 Speaker 1: player in the league. I would argue right now for 691 00:33:43,840 --> 00:33:47,480 Speaker 1: people who missed it, Sophie Cunningham's jersey sold out last week, 692 00:33:47,560 --> 00:33:50,560 Speaker 1: so it's unbelievable. I have a secondary take that I 693 00:33:50,640 --> 00:33:51,920 Speaker 1: want to get to, but I don't want to steal 694 00:33:51,920 --> 00:33:53,719 Speaker 1: the whole well spotlight here. 695 00:33:53,800 --> 00:33:56,920 Speaker 5: I was just gonna say she was maybe embroiled in 696 00:33:57,000 --> 00:34:01,480 Speaker 5: a bit of a drama from our previous Phoenix and 697 00:34:01,560 --> 00:34:05,560 Speaker 5: then recently this week she talked about the WA expansion 698 00:34:06,200 --> 00:34:08,600 Speaker 5: and was saying, who really wants to go to Detroit 699 00:34:08,680 --> 00:34:10,000 Speaker 5: and Cleveland Now? 700 00:34:10,360 --> 00:34:12,320 Speaker 4: The City of Detroit responded to that. 701 00:34:13,160 --> 00:34:16,400 Speaker 5: The actual Twitter handle for the city of Detroit Cleveland 702 00:34:16,440 --> 00:34:19,840 Speaker 5: had their own response, but it was comments that weren't 703 00:34:20,040 --> 00:34:23,320 Speaker 5: taken necessarily so well by a lot of people in 704 00:34:23,400 --> 00:34:27,360 Speaker 5: those communities. Sophie Cunningham did try to clarify her stance 705 00:34:27,480 --> 00:34:30,280 Speaker 5: on what she said earlier this week. Here's the Indiana 706 00:34:30,400 --> 00:34:31,120 Speaker 5: Fever forward. 707 00:34:31,760 --> 00:34:33,880 Speaker 9: I know the history behind the WNBA. I know that 708 00:34:33,960 --> 00:34:36,239 Speaker 9: both of those cities have had teams of four and 709 00:34:36,280 --> 00:34:37,840 Speaker 9: they got us. We rat So I'm thankful for that. 710 00:34:38,440 --> 00:34:41,360 Speaker 9: All I was really getting at is like Broadway the 711 00:34:41,840 --> 00:34:44,840 Speaker 9: all core lifestyle, and so I think that is really intriguing. 712 00:34:44,960 --> 00:34:46,960 Speaker 9: I think Miami's intriguing. That's all I was getting at. 713 00:34:47,000 --> 00:34:48,719 Speaker 9: I'm thankful for what they've done for our history of 714 00:34:48,760 --> 00:34:50,960 Speaker 9: the sport. I think it'd be fine to kind of 715 00:34:51,360 --> 00:34:53,600 Speaker 9: get some teams outside the NBA market. I do think 716 00:34:53,600 --> 00:34:55,439 Speaker 9: there is benefit when you do have an NBA team, 717 00:34:55,640 --> 00:34:57,160 Speaker 9: But that's all I was getting in. I think people 718 00:34:57,280 --> 00:35:01,239 Speaker 9: totally missed for that situation. I would never speak down 719 00:35:01,480 --> 00:35:03,919 Speaker 9: upon middle class, blue collar working people. 720 00:35:03,960 --> 00:35:04,680 Speaker 1: That's where I come from. 721 00:35:04,719 --> 00:35:06,759 Speaker 9: I'm from Missouri. I get, I'm in Indiana, and that's 722 00:35:06,840 --> 00:35:09,640 Speaker 9: kind of why I'm hinting at Broadway sounds fun, Sophie, 723 00:35:09,719 --> 00:35:10,680 Speaker 9: Miami sounds fun. 724 00:35:10,880 --> 00:35:12,840 Speaker 4: All I was getting so. 725 00:35:14,880 --> 00:35:17,400 Speaker 5: I would just say the last part there, like, I 726 00:35:17,480 --> 00:35:20,920 Speaker 5: get she's from Missouri, she plays in Indianapolis. But when 727 00:35:21,000 --> 00:35:23,640 Speaker 5: she's saying when she's then comparing it to saying like 728 00:35:23,960 --> 00:35:26,520 Speaker 5: this is why we need those other cities, like that's 729 00:35:26,560 --> 00:35:28,960 Speaker 5: why that's that's why she's saying they need those other 730 00:35:29,040 --> 00:35:31,880 Speaker 5: series in the cities, and the Broadway that she's mentioning 731 00:35:32,040 --> 00:35:34,160 Speaker 5: is the Broadway in Nashville, not the one that's in 732 00:35:34,640 --> 00:35:38,120 Speaker 5: midtown Manhattan. She's talking about the one in Nashville where 733 00:35:38,160 --> 00:35:41,480 Speaker 5: the arena, at least where the current arena Bridge Stone 734 00:35:41,480 --> 00:35:42,520 Speaker 5: Arena is located. 735 00:35:42,960 --> 00:35:45,480 Speaker 4: So that's kind of her take on it. I don't disagree. 736 00:35:45,680 --> 00:35:46,560 Speaker 4: I don't disagree with. 737 00:35:46,600 --> 00:35:49,120 Speaker 5: Nashville getting a team because they don't have an NBA team, 738 00:35:49,480 --> 00:35:51,800 Speaker 5: and I think that I would really work in that spot. 739 00:35:52,560 --> 00:35:57,160 Speaker 5: Cleveland and Detroit did have their opportunities previously. Cleveland disbanded 740 00:35:57,200 --> 00:35:59,759 Speaker 5: because nobody wanted to buy the team twenty years ago. 741 00:36:00,080 --> 00:36:02,800 Speaker 5: Thing goes back to Caitlin Clark. Now people want, you know, 742 00:36:02,920 --> 00:36:05,719 Speaker 5: everybody's applying for a franchise. I don't know if she 743 00:36:05,880 --> 00:36:08,640 Speaker 5: necessarily cleared herself up in saying that, but I do 744 00:36:08,760 --> 00:36:11,120 Speaker 5: think they missed an opportunity to not go to Nashville 745 00:36:11,160 --> 00:36:13,400 Speaker 5: and instead are going to these two cities that already 746 00:36:13,440 --> 00:36:14,719 Speaker 5: had franchises. 747 00:36:14,200 --> 00:36:14,680 Speaker 4: In the past. 748 00:36:15,080 --> 00:36:17,320 Speaker 1: Well two things. One, I just love how she just 749 00:36:17,360 --> 00:36:19,800 Speaker 1: picked like the two biggest party cities in America that 750 00:36:20,200 --> 00:36:22,520 Speaker 1: it was clearly like, you know, where we should get teams, 751 00:36:22,640 --> 00:36:25,120 Speaker 1: where I want to hang out like you know, which 752 00:36:25,239 --> 00:36:25,880 Speaker 1: is fine. 753 00:36:25,960 --> 00:36:28,600 Speaker 4: I don't Camo, like put a team in Camo. 754 00:36:29,239 --> 00:36:31,560 Speaker 1: Hey, don't we have a G League team in Mexico City, 755 00:36:31,640 --> 00:36:33,080 Speaker 1: So I mean, you know, next best thing. 756 00:36:34,280 --> 00:36:34,400 Speaker 2: Uh. 757 00:36:34,680 --> 00:36:37,520 Speaker 1: The other thing I was gonna say was, and this 758 00:36:37,719 --> 00:36:40,840 Speaker 1: is a little bit you know, poo pooing on the WNBA. 759 00:36:41,000 --> 00:36:44,000 Speaker 1: But it's like you're about to balance your books for 760 00:36:44,040 --> 00:36:46,360 Speaker 1: the first time ever because of Caitlyn Clark. Do we 761 00:36:46,920 --> 00:36:49,640 Speaker 1: immediately need to add three more teams? How about we 762 00:36:49,719 --> 00:36:51,239 Speaker 1: just keep it with what it is. I you know, 763 00:36:51,400 --> 00:36:53,040 Speaker 1: I don't. I don't want to be negative because I 764 00:36:53,040 --> 00:36:54,960 Speaker 1: think it's a pretty light, funny story and I think 765 00:36:55,040 --> 00:36:57,640 Speaker 1: the topic is Sophie Cunningham. But since you did bring 766 00:36:57,760 --> 00:37:00,480 Speaker 1: up expansion, it's like, we don't need more teams, we 767 00:37:00,560 --> 00:37:02,960 Speaker 1: just need more Kaitlyn Clark. Can she play for more 768 00:37:03,000 --> 00:37:05,880 Speaker 1: than one team? Can she play more than once a day? 769 00:37:05,960 --> 00:37:08,120 Speaker 1: I don't ye, but yeah, this. 770 00:37:08,280 --> 00:37:10,640 Speaker 5: Is and this is my thing with because Iowa Sam 771 00:37:10,719 --> 00:37:13,040 Speaker 5: thinks that Aleiah Boston and Kitlyn Clark are best friends. 772 00:37:13,360 --> 00:37:15,520 Speaker 1: No, I never said that. I said there's no beef 773 00:37:15,600 --> 00:37:16,040 Speaker 1: between them. 774 00:37:16,239 --> 00:37:19,040 Speaker 5: I think that there still is, like this this tension 775 00:37:19,120 --> 00:37:21,320 Speaker 5: there and as much as they try to play it 776 00:37:21,440 --> 00:37:24,239 Speaker 5: off like there still is. All a Leiah Boston had 777 00:37:24,280 --> 00:37:26,120 Speaker 5: to do was stick up for Kitlyn Clark once and 778 00:37:26,160 --> 00:37:28,120 Speaker 5: she would probably be getting the same amount of love 779 00:37:28,520 --> 00:37:32,440 Speaker 5: from everybody now. Sophie Cunningham is America's darling because she's 780 00:37:32,440 --> 00:37:34,800 Speaker 5: stuck up for Kitlyn Clark. That's all a Leiah Boston 781 00:37:34,840 --> 00:37:36,520 Speaker 5: had to do as a teammate. She had a year 782 00:37:36,520 --> 00:37:37,960 Speaker 5: and a half to do, so it hasn't done. So 783 00:37:38,440 --> 00:37:40,960 Speaker 5: it took the smallest thing. All somebody had to do 784 00:37:41,080 --> 00:37:43,960 Speaker 5: is stand up and look at what it did for you, 785 00:37:44,560 --> 00:37:47,680 Speaker 5: and I just it's it's such a lost opportunity for 786 00:37:47,760 --> 00:37:50,920 Speaker 5: anybody else in the NBA or WNBA, any of the 787 00:37:50,960 --> 00:37:54,000 Speaker 5: Fever teammates, same deal. It took somebody new to the 788 00:37:54,040 --> 00:37:57,440 Speaker 5: team this year, and she's reaping all the benefits of. 789 00:37:57,440 --> 00:38:00,359 Speaker 1: It really quick. I know we are very short time, 790 00:38:00,800 --> 00:38:04,840 Speaker 1: but this clearly proves that the rising Caitlin Clark tide 791 00:38:05,160 --> 00:38:09,320 Speaker 1: raises all ships. Right, So this kind of disproves the 792 00:38:09,440 --> 00:38:12,040 Speaker 1: theory that like, oh, Caitlin Clark wouldn't be as popular 793 00:38:12,080 --> 00:38:14,600 Speaker 1: without Angel Reese. It's like, no, she pretty much would, 794 00:38:14,600 --> 00:38:16,840 Speaker 1: because that's a that's kind of a new narrative that's emerging. 795 00:38:16,880 --> 00:38:18,480 Speaker 1: I know we don't have much time to discuss, but 796 00:38:18,600 --> 00:38:19,560 Speaker 1: something I was thinking about, so. 797 00:38:19,719 --> 00:38:22,000 Speaker 5: Sure, sure instead of you know, it's kind of not 798 00:38:22,160 --> 00:38:24,640 Speaker 5: a Batman and Robins sort of thing, like it helps 799 00:38:24,680 --> 00:38:25,480 Speaker 5: her along that way. 800 00:38:25,760 --> 00:38:27,319 Speaker 4: He's there on toiles. I've dan Byer. 801 00:38:27,400 --> 00:38:30,120 Speaker 5: We're in for Cavino and Rich here on Fox Sports 802 00:38:30,239 --> 00:38:33,880 Speaker 5: Radio College hoops in the women's side, missus Caitlin Clark. 803 00:38:33,920 --> 00:38:35,319 Speaker 4: Who else do we miss? That's next