1 00:00:04,559 --> 00:00:07,320 Speaker 1: To quot the head coach. Nothing good from that game 2 00:00:07,560 --> 00:00:11,520 Speaker 1: got Paul calvisy with Bergang. Very little went right on Sunday. 3 00:00:11,600 --> 00:00:14,440 Speaker 1: The Cardinals fell behind early and just could not dig 4 00:00:14,480 --> 00:00:17,520 Speaker 1: themselves out of the hole. Got more questions than answers 5 00:00:17,560 --> 00:00:20,599 Speaker 1: at this point, but we'll try. It's Cardinals Cover two, 6 00:00:20,640 --> 00:00:28,360 Speaker 1: Episode nine, and it starts now. Welcome to Cardinals Cover two. 7 00:00:28,520 --> 00:00:32,959 Speaker 1: Who to Baker? What Heart? What rent? This guy's unbelievable? 8 00:00:33,120 --> 00:00:37,440 Speaker 1: Cardinals Cover two is presented by Hyundai, proud partner of 9 00:00:37,479 --> 00:00:41,760 Speaker 1: the Arizona Cardinals, and by Arizona Cardinals Podcast. 10 00:00:42,120 --> 00:00:44,080 Speaker 2: Visit Azycardinals dot. 11 00:00:43,800 --> 00:00:46,800 Speaker 1: Com slash podcast. He's a the ten half of five. 12 00:00:46,920 --> 00:00:50,360 Speaker 2: He's it again, so more hurry magic. 13 00:00:50,080 --> 00:00:59,040 Speaker 1: Whow Here's Craigcriolo. So, who knew Paul that the best 14 00:00:59,040 --> 00:01:02,640 Speaker 1: part of your day on Sunday would be the game time? 15 00:01:03,040 --> 00:01:11,200 Speaker 1: Temperature fifty nine degrees, some sun, little clouds, I mean anytime. 16 00:01:11,959 --> 00:01:14,520 Speaker 1: Darren and Danny bring it up on the NFL Kickoff Show, 17 00:01:14,520 --> 00:01:17,440 Speaker 1: and Dave Pash before the broadcast just talks about how 18 00:01:17,480 --> 00:01:21,280 Speaker 1: spectacular the day is in Seattle. Probably should have seen 19 00:01:21,280 --> 00:01:22,720 Speaker 1: this one coming because it was not. 20 00:01:23,120 --> 00:01:26,679 Speaker 2: After that, Yeah, two things we didn't see coming. The 21 00:01:26,920 --> 00:01:30,559 Speaker 2: weather and the scoreboard. Those were the two things didn't 22 00:01:30,640 --> 00:01:33,760 Speaker 2: see coming in that fashion. Twenty one years now, Craig, 23 00:01:33,800 --> 00:01:37,040 Speaker 2: I've packed sunglasses to Seattle. This was the first time 24 00:01:37,080 --> 00:01:41,839 Speaker 2: I ever really needed them. Wow. Not quite sunscreen sunglasses, yes, 25 00:01:42,959 --> 00:01:45,959 Speaker 2: which was notable because at least half my travel bag 26 00:01:46,400 --> 00:01:49,320 Speaker 2: was rain gear that I had to haul up there 27 00:01:49,600 --> 00:01:52,680 Speaker 2: just in case didn't need the rain gear. It rained 28 00:01:52,720 --> 00:01:56,920 Speaker 2: in a different way. But honestly, there is a vibe 29 00:01:56,920 --> 00:01:59,000 Speaker 2: in that stadium with that team. Well, let me let 30 00:01:59,000 --> 00:02:01,080 Speaker 2: me clarify this. There's a vibe with that team and 31 00:02:01,120 --> 00:02:04,640 Speaker 2: that roster, in that style of play that does harken 32 00:02:04,880 --> 00:02:07,200 Speaker 2: a little bit, a little bit back to the Legion 33 00:02:07,200 --> 00:02:13,440 Speaker 2: of boom days. Really ultra aggressive defense, ball hawking, secondary, 34 00:02:14,160 --> 00:02:17,960 Speaker 2: go for broke style of play, especially on defense, with 35 00:02:18,040 --> 00:02:20,280 Speaker 2: some weapons on offense to keep you honest. Now, the 36 00:02:20,280 --> 00:02:23,399 Speaker 2: Twelves I thought were underwhelming Twelves are nowhere near where 37 00:02:23,440 --> 00:02:25,840 Speaker 2: they used to be in the legion of boom days. 38 00:02:25,880 --> 00:02:28,320 Speaker 2: Not exactly sure if they've gone corporate or what's going 39 00:02:28,360 --> 00:02:31,079 Speaker 2: on with the crowd. Bird Gang did represent there was 40 00:02:31,080 --> 00:02:32,760 Speaker 2: a lot of Red Sea shout out to my guy 41 00:02:32,840 --> 00:02:34,920 Speaker 2: Adam and his group of like six people right on 42 00:02:34,960 --> 00:02:38,200 Speaker 2: the front row behind the Cardinals bench. Nice rocking Cardinals gear. 43 00:02:38,320 --> 00:02:40,640 Speaker 2: So whoever their ticket broker was did him well on 44 00:02:40,680 --> 00:02:42,960 Speaker 2: that front, as they had a half dozen chairs right 45 00:02:43,000 --> 00:02:47,160 Speaker 2: on the rail. But yeah, the twelves, you know, Seattle, 46 00:02:47,400 --> 00:02:50,200 Speaker 2: the Seahawks won despite the home crowd. Put it that way. 47 00:02:50,360 --> 00:02:53,560 Speaker 1: Now, You've been asking this question all week long going 48 00:02:53,600 --> 00:02:56,400 Speaker 1: into the game, and I believe we do have our answer, 49 00:02:56,480 --> 00:03:01,440 Speaker 1: and it's pretty definitive. Yes, the Seattle Seahawks are for real. Yes, 50 00:03:01,440 --> 00:03:04,160 Speaker 1: the Seattle Seahawks might be, if not the best team, 51 00:03:04,200 --> 00:03:06,480 Speaker 1: one of the better teams in the NFC, let alone 52 00:03:06,560 --> 00:03:09,919 Speaker 1: the NFL. Because it was the offense, it was the defense. 53 00:03:10,080 --> 00:03:14,000 Speaker 1: Jason Myers kicking field goals forty four to twenty two 54 00:03:14,080 --> 00:03:17,639 Speaker 1: of the final scores. The Cardinals lose in Seattle, get 55 00:03:17,720 --> 00:03:21,160 Speaker 1: swept in the season series, drop to three and six, 56 00:03:21,360 --> 00:03:25,360 Speaker 1: zero to three. Now in the NFC West, and all 57 00:03:25,560 --> 00:03:29,520 Speaker 1: the positivity, all the good vibes coming off the Monday 58 00:03:29,600 --> 00:03:34,600 Speaker 1: night game in Dallas seemingly has gone away now after 59 00:03:34,639 --> 00:03:38,440 Speaker 1: what we saw and then heard postgame following the game, 60 00:03:38,640 --> 00:03:42,520 Speaker 1: and let's just go straight to it. Jonathan Gannon two reporters. 61 00:03:43,040 --> 00:03:45,440 Speaker 1: At the end of the day, nothing good from that game, 62 00:03:45,800 --> 00:03:48,960 Speaker 1: and it falls on me three different times during that 63 00:03:49,080 --> 00:03:52,960 Speaker 1: Q and a Paul afterwards. JG put it on himself, 64 00:03:53,240 --> 00:03:56,400 Speaker 1: as any head coach would want to or should ye. 65 00:03:56,400 --> 00:03:58,640 Speaker 1: At the end of the day, it's those players on 66 00:03:58,720 --> 00:04:01,640 Speaker 1: the field and there just was not a lot of 67 00:04:02,120 --> 00:04:05,760 Speaker 1: execution throughout the game. And any time you fall behind 68 00:04:05,760 --> 00:04:09,080 Speaker 1: twenty one to nothing and thirty five nothing midway through 69 00:04:09,080 --> 00:04:13,880 Speaker 1: the second quarter, it's just impossible, darn near impossible to 70 00:04:14,000 --> 00:04:17,280 Speaker 1: come back in that game. Cardinals did make it somewhat 71 00:04:17,560 --> 00:04:21,000 Speaker 1: reasonable there late, but it was over early. 72 00:04:21,200 --> 00:04:24,239 Speaker 2: Yeah, there's no halftime adjustment for thirty eight to seven. 73 00:04:24,400 --> 00:04:28,240 Speaker 2: Put it that way. So I know how Jonathan Gannon 74 00:04:28,279 --> 00:04:33,760 Speaker 2: owns it and he takes accountability culpability, and it's admirable 75 00:04:33,800 --> 00:04:36,240 Speaker 2: for the head coach, but it obviously goes way beyond 76 00:04:36,240 --> 00:04:39,320 Speaker 2: the game plan now, where there's certain things that Seattle 77 00:04:39,360 --> 00:04:42,240 Speaker 2: did creatively on third down, in particular to dial up 78 00:04:42,240 --> 00:04:45,000 Speaker 2: some of those complex blitz schemes, and we talked about 79 00:04:45,000 --> 00:04:48,799 Speaker 2: that Craig pregame. Cardinals knew about that Cardinals offensive line 80 00:04:49,080 --> 00:04:51,880 Speaker 2: all week, and I reported this from the sideline guys 81 00:04:51,920 --> 00:04:55,760 Speaker 2: I talked to. They were drilling, being prepared for the 82 00:04:55,880 --> 00:04:58,960 Speaker 2: complex blit schemes that Mike McDonald is known for a 83 00:04:59,000 --> 00:05:01,160 Speaker 2: lot of times. They keep it on first and second down, 84 00:05:01,200 --> 00:05:04,040 Speaker 2: and on third down they led a rip. It came 85 00:05:04,080 --> 00:05:06,880 Speaker 2: into the game with the second lowest blitz percentage, second 86 00:05:07,000 --> 00:05:10,040 Speaker 2: highest pressure rate. What does that tell you? They have dudes? 87 00:05:10,480 --> 00:05:13,680 Speaker 2: Leonard Williams, Byron Murphy, this second mid first round pick 88 00:05:13,720 --> 00:05:17,120 Speaker 2: two years ago playing like it. Noosu is finally healthy 89 00:05:17,160 --> 00:05:18,960 Speaker 2: for the first time in his career. He's a guy 90 00:05:19,080 --> 00:05:22,159 Speaker 2: off the edge. You know they have some players, and 91 00:05:22,240 --> 00:05:26,839 Speaker 2: that Tyrese Knight guy has been a real good fine GM. 92 00:05:26,920 --> 00:05:30,560 Speaker 2: John Schnyder went about a decade a drought in the draft, 93 00:05:30,600 --> 00:05:32,960 Speaker 2: but he's hit the last couple drafts, last two or three, 94 00:05:33,279 --> 00:05:35,919 Speaker 2: and it showed they have some players, even their backup 95 00:05:36,000 --> 00:05:40,640 Speaker 2: running back Kilani and some backup dbs. So okay, now, 96 00:05:41,160 --> 00:05:44,400 Speaker 2: so the coaching staff can own it all they want. 97 00:05:44,600 --> 00:05:49,640 Speaker 2: But when a four man rush gets through and instantly 98 00:05:49,680 --> 00:05:52,880 Speaker 2: impacts your quarterback and then causes one of two strip sacks, 99 00:05:53,360 --> 00:05:56,560 Speaker 2: same dude on the force fumble, same dude on the 100 00:05:56,560 --> 00:06:00,599 Speaker 2: fumble recovering touchdown, return. You can call that fluke, you 101 00:06:00,600 --> 00:06:04,880 Speaker 2: can call that epic historical, but what it is is 102 00:06:04,920 --> 00:06:09,360 Speaker 2: a Seattle defense that was just more aggressive, more physical. 103 00:06:10,160 --> 00:06:11,720 Speaker 2: All you had to do is watch her from field 104 00:06:11,800 --> 00:06:13,839 Speaker 2: level and you could see the surge by the Seattle 105 00:06:13,880 --> 00:06:17,240 Speaker 2: defensive front. And to me, and we've talked about this 106 00:06:17,320 --> 00:06:21,719 Speaker 2: for two decades, going to Seattle is the ultimate litmus 107 00:06:21,760 --> 00:06:25,400 Speaker 2: test for any offensive line. Any visiting offensive line will 108 00:06:25,440 --> 00:06:28,520 Speaker 2: get their greatest test when you go to Seattle against 109 00:06:28,880 --> 00:06:31,520 Speaker 2: that sort of defense. Whether there's legion, a boom, whether 110 00:06:31,560 --> 00:06:33,920 Speaker 2: it's right now, they're top five in every category. In 111 00:06:33,960 --> 00:06:36,880 Speaker 2: that environment, you're in silent count the entirety of the game. 112 00:06:37,120 --> 00:06:39,039 Speaker 2: And you saw some issues in certain times when the 113 00:06:39,040 --> 00:06:41,360 Speaker 2: crowd got loud on third and fourth down and there 114 00:06:41,440 --> 00:06:43,800 Speaker 2: was some movement and there was some flags. So to me, 115 00:06:44,560 --> 00:06:47,760 Speaker 2: that's always the number one key to any team getting 116 00:06:47,760 --> 00:06:49,760 Speaker 2: to win at Seattle as a visitor. 117 00:06:49,839 --> 00:06:52,360 Speaker 1: I'm going to sound like Ron Wolfley here for a moment, 118 00:06:52,440 --> 00:06:57,080 Speaker 1: but it's true line of scrimmage and either side of 119 00:06:57,080 --> 00:07:00,880 Speaker 1: the ball, offensive line, defensive line. The Cardinal got beat 120 00:07:01,320 --> 00:07:04,960 Speaker 1: at the line of scrimmage. Seahawks didn't blitz a ton, 121 00:07:05,120 --> 00:07:07,680 Speaker 1: but it was the looks that they were giving that 122 00:07:07,760 --> 00:07:13,320 Speaker 1: offensive line, which four were coming after Jacoby Brissett, and 123 00:07:13,400 --> 00:07:15,720 Speaker 1: we got calls postgame, and I'm sure you heard it 124 00:07:15,760 --> 00:07:18,360 Speaker 1: as well, well, this is what you get when you 125 00:07:18,400 --> 00:07:21,520 Speaker 1: have Jacoby Brissett as your quarterback because he's not as 126 00:07:21,560 --> 00:07:24,720 Speaker 1: mobile as Kyler Murray. I'm sorry, based off what I 127 00:07:24,800 --> 00:07:27,960 Speaker 1: saw in real time, it wouldn't have mattered who was 128 00:07:28,360 --> 00:07:31,760 Speaker 1: the quarterback for either one of those strip sacks. But 129 00:07:31,880 --> 00:07:34,120 Speaker 1: it goes back to what we see now for four 130 00:07:34,200 --> 00:07:36,960 Speaker 1: games in which Jacoby has been the quarterback, because if 131 00:07:37,000 --> 00:07:39,080 Speaker 1: you're going to praise him for standing in the top 132 00:07:39,160 --> 00:07:42,040 Speaker 1: in the pocket and converting those third and lungs, then 133 00:07:42,080 --> 00:07:45,880 Speaker 1: you have to suffer some of the consequences when maybe 134 00:07:45,880 --> 00:07:48,360 Speaker 1: he stands in there a little bit too long on 135 00:07:48,400 --> 00:07:51,000 Speaker 1: some of those hits because he is getting hit a 136 00:07:51,200 --> 00:07:54,040 Speaker 1: ton but always gets right back up. But I don't 137 00:07:54,080 --> 00:07:57,240 Speaker 1: think either one of those stripsack fumbles and the touchdowns 138 00:07:57,240 --> 00:08:01,120 Speaker 1: by DeMarcus Lawrence would have mattered because jacobbe drops back 139 00:08:01,200 --> 00:08:03,760 Speaker 1: and immediately there's a hand in his face and you're 140 00:08:03,800 --> 00:08:06,160 Speaker 1: trying to make a play, and unfortunately it just wound 141 00:08:06,240 --> 00:08:08,000 Speaker 1: up in the hands of the Marcus and. 142 00:08:07,960 --> 00:08:10,680 Speaker 2: I know postgame Jacoby Brissett cited that on one of 143 00:08:10,680 --> 00:08:13,400 Speaker 2: those two there was someone wide open down the middle 144 00:08:13,680 --> 00:08:16,800 Speaker 2: he was trying to get the ball to. He saw it, 145 00:08:17,000 --> 00:08:19,160 Speaker 2: he read it correctly, he knew where he was going 146 00:08:19,160 --> 00:08:21,080 Speaker 2: with the ball. He just couldn't get rid of it 147 00:08:21,440 --> 00:08:24,960 Speaker 2: in time, which is frustrating, which is vaccine. I mean, 148 00:08:25,320 --> 00:08:27,760 Speaker 2: you talk to any player and coach behind the scenes 149 00:08:27,800 --> 00:08:31,600 Speaker 2: and they'll tell you his ability to read and react 150 00:08:31,000 --> 00:08:35,320 Speaker 2: is really semi elite. He's able to go up to 151 00:08:35,320 --> 00:08:37,679 Speaker 2: the line of scrimmage know exactly what his pre snap 152 00:08:37,720 --> 00:08:40,040 Speaker 2: read is going to be, and a post snap if 153 00:08:40,080 --> 00:08:42,120 Speaker 2: they change up, he's able to say, all right, I 154 00:08:42,120 --> 00:08:43,839 Speaker 2: have one, two, three and four, now I have two 155 00:08:43,920 --> 00:08:47,080 Speaker 2: and four. He's able to immediately delete, you know, a 156 00:08:47,080 --> 00:08:50,760 Speaker 2: couple of reads and just process really quickly. But that's 157 00:08:50,760 --> 00:08:53,520 Speaker 2: how fast he was getting hit and harassed on some 158 00:08:53,559 --> 00:08:56,040 Speaker 2: of those situations. So is a natural to wonder. And 159 00:08:56,080 --> 00:08:57,800 Speaker 2: I even wrote it down in my notebook as a 160 00:08:58,120 --> 00:09:02,200 Speaker 2: potential postgame question. Should the ball have been out on 161 00:09:02,200 --> 00:09:08,479 Speaker 2: those two strip sacks defensive returns for touchdown? And yeah, hey, 162 00:09:09,080 --> 00:09:13,959 Speaker 2: only the quarterback knows what's realistic and what's feasible. I mean, 163 00:09:13,960 --> 00:09:16,600 Speaker 2: there needs to be a moment of time for guys 164 00:09:16,640 --> 00:09:18,200 Speaker 2: to get into the route. Should there have been a 165 00:09:18,240 --> 00:09:21,240 Speaker 2: hot should there have been an immediate checkdown? You know, 166 00:09:21,320 --> 00:09:24,040 Speaker 2: that's a great question for this coaching staff. Maybe that's 167 00:09:24,040 --> 00:09:27,040 Speaker 2: what Jonathan Gannon was referring to in terms, you know, 168 00:09:27,080 --> 00:09:28,760 Speaker 2: you got to play better, you got to coach better. 169 00:09:29,200 --> 00:09:31,120 Speaker 2: But as soon as you get down fourteen to nothing 170 00:09:31,160 --> 00:09:33,559 Speaker 2: in any game, especially against that team, guess what happens. 171 00:09:33,880 --> 00:09:36,319 Speaker 2: They pin their ears back. They don't have to, they 172 00:09:36,360 --> 00:09:38,880 Speaker 2: don't even if they had to worry about the run, 173 00:09:39,040 --> 00:09:41,160 Speaker 2: they won't worry about the run. They're just coming after 174 00:09:41,200 --> 00:09:42,920 Speaker 2: the quarterback with abandon. 175 00:09:42,679 --> 00:09:47,160 Speaker 1: Next Gen stats, the Seahawks defense recorded twenty three pressures, 176 00:09:47,320 --> 00:09:50,600 Speaker 1: ninth most of any team in a game this season. 177 00:09:50,880 --> 00:09:53,439 Speaker 1: And yeah, you fall behind thirty five nothing, all of 178 00:09:53,480 --> 00:09:56,840 Speaker 1: a sudden you are forced to throw the football. Although 179 00:09:56,920 --> 00:09:59,760 Speaker 1: during the broadcast, Pash and a Q Shipley, we're talking 180 00:09:59,760 --> 00:10:03,320 Speaker 1: about especially early on that Okay, there's eight thirty three 181 00:10:03,360 --> 00:10:07,440 Speaker 1: to go, second quarter and you're down thirty five to nothing. Okay, 182 00:10:07,520 --> 00:10:10,320 Speaker 1: don't panic. Try to figure out what you can do 183 00:10:10,400 --> 00:10:13,280 Speaker 1: to kind of sustain a drive, and then that's when 184 00:10:13,320 --> 00:10:17,480 Speaker 1: we saw the first of three turnovers on downs inside 185 00:10:17,520 --> 00:10:19,559 Speaker 1: the red zone. We're on fourth and goal at the one, 186 00:10:20,080 --> 00:10:24,200 Speaker 1: Bam Knight gets no yards and I don't mind going 187 00:10:24,240 --> 00:10:27,199 Speaker 1: forward in that situation. Certainly you liked it, but what 188 00:10:27,240 --> 00:10:30,360 Speaker 1: you didn't like was a third and thirteen converted by 189 00:10:30,360 --> 00:10:33,360 Speaker 1: Trey McBride. Put it at the four, first in goal, 190 00:10:33,480 --> 00:10:36,120 Speaker 1: and you've got four shots to get a touchdown and 191 00:10:36,160 --> 00:10:38,840 Speaker 1: you come up empty in that point. Yeah, you were 192 00:10:38,880 --> 00:10:41,560 Speaker 1: able to get the ball back on the bad snap 193 00:10:41,679 --> 00:10:44,600 Speaker 1: and then the Greg Dortsch four yard run to make 194 00:10:44,600 --> 00:10:46,679 Speaker 1: it thirty five to seven, but you've got to be 195 00:10:46,720 --> 00:10:48,439 Speaker 1: able to punch it in when it's first and goal. 196 00:10:48,600 --> 00:10:51,840 Speaker 1: And twice the Cardinals had it first and goal and 197 00:10:51,920 --> 00:10:53,480 Speaker 1: didn't come away with any points. 198 00:10:53,520 --> 00:10:56,240 Speaker 2: And again from field level, you could just see the 199 00:10:56,400 --> 00:10:59,680 Speaker 2: serge by the Seattle defensive line in that moment, and 200 00:10:59,720 --> 00:11:01,640 Speaker 2: that's situation. You got to be able to come off 201 00:11:01,679 --> 00:11:05,040 Speaker 2: the ball and move the defensive line, you know, create 202 00:11:05,320 --> 00:11:08,080 Speaker 2: some sort of crease for the running back. And too 203 00:11:08,120 --> 00:11:11,120 Speaker 2: often Bam and Amari Da de Mercado and even Greg 204 00:11:11,160 --> 00:11:13,719 Speaker 2: Dortch were getting hit in the backfield too often. At 205 00:11:13,720 --> 00:11:17,559 Speaker 2: times the play call was going lateral instead of vertical. Yeah, 206 00:11:17,720 --> 00:11:18,880 Speaker 2: I think a lot of us would have liked to 207 00:11:18,920 --> 00:11:21,920 Speaker 2: see a little more Kramit vertical in that moment. You know, 208 00:11:21,960 --> 00:11:24,600 Speaker 2: once they were first in goal at the one, you 209 00:11:24,640 --> 00:11:26,439 Speaker 2: know you had a pass in the back of the 210 00:11:26,520 --> 00:11:28,920 Speaker 2: end zone is Jai Jones that's where he left and 211 00:11:29,360 --> 00:11:31,760 Speaker 2: you know, looking down. And then later it was confirmed 212 00:11:31,800 --> 00:11:35,040 Speaker 2: it was an achilles injury, and so and then Amari 213 00:11:35,160 --> 00:11:37,600 Speaker 2: got it on third and goal at the four, and 214 00:11:37,600 --> 00:11:41,000 Speaker 2: and so it was when you get to the one, 215 00:11:41,240 --> 00:11:42,839 Speaker 2: when you get to the two, and when you get 216 00:11:42,840 --> 00:11:46,400 Speaker 2: to the eight, three separate possessions for the Arizona Cardinals 217 00:11:46,480 --> 00:11:49,760 Speaker 2: and you got no points. Yes, I agree with you. 218 00:11:49,800 --> 00:11:52,920 Speaker 2: That was obviously turning point, a pivot point in the game. 219 00:11:53,000 --> 00:11:56,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, Cardinals got down there six times, but three times 220 00:11:56,320 --> 00:11:59,199 Speaker 1: came away with no points. And thats just you can't 221 00:11:59,240 --> 00:12:01,640 Speaker 1: have happiness, especially if you're trying to get back into 222 00:12:01,679 --> 00:12:04,760 Speaker 1: the ball game. Because I'll give this team credit, and 223 00:12:04,800 --> 00:12:08,560 Speaker 1: Elijah Higgins mentioned it to you postgame on the Cardinals 224 00:12:08,600 --> 00:12:11,440 Speaker 1: Locker Room show. They fought and that's the one thing 225 00:12:11,600 --> 00:12:14,240 Speaker 1: you can say, going all the way back to day one, 226 00:12:14,600 --> 00:12:18,840 Speaker 1: year one under Jonathan Gannon, regardless of what happens during 227 00:12:18,840 --> 00:12:22,120 Speaker 1: the course of a game, you're trailing by a lot whatever, 228 00:12:22,679 --> 00:12:25,640 Speaker 1: you are going to get the full sixty minutes from 229 00:12:25,679 --> 00:12:28,839 Speaker 1: this Cardinals team. Because at one point I thought, again, 230 00:12:28,880 --> 00:12:31,480 Speaker 1: this is going back to the third time the Cardinals 231 00:12:31,480 --> 00:12:33,240 Speaker 1: had it inside the red zone and turned it over 232 00:12:33,320 --> 00:12:38,040 Speaker 1: on downs. But it was after the Josh Sweat strip sack, 233 00:12:38,280 --> 00:12:41,400 Speaker 1: in which you have the ball again, trailing thirty eight 234 00:12:41,400 --> 00:12:44,680 Speaker 1: to fifteen in the third quarter. Yet on fourth and five, 235 00:12:45,040 --> 00:12:48,959 Speaker 1: Jacoby Brissett nearly had what would have been an unbelievable 236 00:12:49,000 --> 00:12:52,720 Speaker 1: catch by Marvin Harrison Junior had it in his hands diving, 237 00:12:53,120 --> 00:12:56,760 Speaker 1: but the dB knocked it loose at the last moment, 238 00:12:57,120 --> 00:12:59,600 Speaker 1: and all of a sudden, it's incomplete and you turn 239 00:12:59,600 --> 00:13:01,720 Speaker 1: it over down Jason Myers kicks the field goal at 240 00:13:01,760 --> 00:13:03,960 Speaker 1: forty one to fifteen, and that point it's over. But 241 00:13:04,000 --> 00:13:07,480 Speaker 1: if you're able to come away with points there touchdown 242 00:13:07,800 --> 00:13:10,080 Speaker 1: or a touchdown plus two, and all of a sudden, 243 00:13:10,120 --> 00:13:13,120 Speaker 1: you've got maybe a little bit of momentum with still 244 00:13:13,440 --> 00:13:16,280 Speaker 1: a good chunk of the game still left, but coming 245 00:13:16,360 --> 00:13:19,400 Speaker 1: up short on that one. And I give the dB 246 00:13:19,559 --> 00:13:21,760 Speaker 1: a lot of credit for making the play and not 247 00:13:21,880 --> 00:13:24,160 Speaker 1: the fact that Marvin jen haul it in. 248 00:13:24,840 --> 00:13:28,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a very talented secondary. It's something that Cardinals 249 00:13:28,520 --> 00:13:30,439 Speaker 2: are gonna have to deal with for many years to come. 250 00:13:30,800 --> 00:13:33,920 Speaker 2: The whole Marvin Harrison Junior against Devin Witherspoon is going 251 00:13:34,000 --> 00:13:36,760 Speaker 2: to be a big time matchup twice a year for 252 00:13:36,840 --> 00:13:40,760 Speaker 2: their foreseeable future. You know, I did ask Elija Higgins 253 00:13:40,760 --> 00:13:44,720 Speaker 2: after the game, you know, about the energy, intensity, physicality, 254 00:13:44,760 --> 00:13:47,120 Speaker 2: what he thought and he, speaking of short, he cut 255 00:13:47,160 --> 00:13:48,640 Speaker 2: me short in the questions, said no, I thought we 256 00:13:48,640 --> 00:13:50,880 Speaker 2: were ready to go because I prefaced it by saying, 257 00:13:50,880 --> 00:13:52,840 Speaker 2: you know what you play, You're on a short week, 258 00:13:52,840 --> 00:13:54,640 Speaker 2: coming off Monday night, you don't get home till two 259 00:13:54,720 --> 00:13:57,600 Speaker 2: three in the morning. Did that have any sort of impact? 260 00:13:57,679 --> 00:13:59,720 Speaker 2: He said, no, We're ready to go. There was a 261 00:13:59,760 --> 00:14:01,760 Speaker 2: moment when the Cardinals got down. It was the second 262 00:14:01,840 --> 00:14:05,720 Speaker 2: quarter where Kalis and Buddha Baker got the entire defense together, 263 00:14:05,840 --> 00:14:08,640 Speaker 2: sort of a pseudo players only meeting on the sideline. 264 00:14:08,679 --> 00:14:10,840 Speaker 2: And you know it's hard to hear in Seattle, but 265 00:14:10,920 --> 00:14:12,720 Speaker 2: you could make it out as Klays is pointing to 266 00:14:12,760 --> 00:14:15,520 Speaker 2: his chest, you know, play with heart, do your job, 267 00:14:16,000 --> 00:14:19,560 Speaker 2: Buddha Baker, keep fighting. So the two team captains. Now, 268 00:14:19,560 --> 00:14:23,120 Speaker 2: who are you missing? Mac Wilson Senior? No doubt, anytime 269 00:14:23,160 --> 00:14:25,120 Speaker 2: you go into a hostile environment like that in a 270 00:14:25,120 --> 00:14:28,040 Speaker 2: division game, you want to have your resident badass middle 271 00:14:28,080 --> 00:14:30,800 Speaker 2: linebacker on the field, sort of like at the forty 272 00:14:30,880 --> 00:14:33,440 Speaker 2: nine Ers when Mac Wilson Senior was the toughest dude 273 00:14:33,480 --> 00:14:37,360 Speaker 2: even beyond Fred Warner that game, remember any blasted Christian McCaffrey. 274 00:14:37,760 --> 00:14:40,800 Speaker 2: That set a tone. So then again, the Seahawks are 275 00:14:40,800 --> 00:14:44,640 Speaker 2: missing Ernest Jones, their standout middle linebacker and leading tacklers, 276 00:14:44,640 --> 00:14:48,080 Speaker 2: So it was even in that department. But yes, there 277 00:14:48,080 --> 00:14:53,840 Speaker 2: were certain moments where it's deflating. It's disappointing when two 278 00:14:53,880 --> 00:14:56,840 Speaker 2: strip sacks go the other way and you look up 279 00:14:56,880 --> 00:14:59,440 Speaker 2: and you're down twenty one nothing, twenty eight nothing. What 280 00:14:59,520 --> 00:15:04,080 Speaker 2: the foot going on? It's thirty five nothing? WTF? Yeah, 281 00:15:04,160 --> 00:15:06,720 Speaker 2: that's it. But to your point, Craig, the fight was 282 00:15:06,760 --> 00:15:09,680 Speaker 2: still there to the very end. The injuries did mount. 283 00:15:09,720 --> 00:15:11,920 Speaker 2: We'll get into that, but if you go back to 284 00:15:12,000 --> 00:15:15,320 Speaker 2: year one, that December win at Pittsburgh, the December win 285 00:15:15,400 --> 00:15:19,080 Speaker 2: at Philadelphia, season was already decided, long gone by then, 286 00:15:19,520 --> 00:15:23,080 Speaker 2: and the Jonathan Gennon teams will continue to fight in battle. 287 00:15:23,200 --> 00:15:27,280 Speaker 1: Klais Campbell postgame to reporters, his message, fight show me 288 00:15:27,360 --> 00:15:30,440 Speaker 1: your heart talking about what you saw on the sideline, 289 00:15:30,480 --> 00:15:34,240 Speaker 1: because now you've got a banged up forty nine ers 290 00:15:34,320 --> 00:15:37,240 Speaker 1: team that is still believes it's in the race within 291 00:15:37,280 --> 00:15:40,320 Speaker 1: the NFC West and overall in the NFC. So we 292 00:15:40,360 --> 00:15:42,280 Speaker 1: could talk more about that later on in the week, 293 00:15:42,320 --> 00:15:44,880 Speaker 1: but these are two banged up football teams and no 294 00:15:44,920 --> 00:15:48,040 Speaker 1: one cares who you have who you don't have, but 295 00:15:48,360 --> 00:15:50,720 Speaker 1: can you get the job done? And yes, the Cardinals 296 00:15:50,720 --> 00:15:53,400 Speaker 1: did have did not have Mac Wilson Senior, did not 297 00:15:53,560 --> 00:15:56,280 Speaker 1: have Max Melton, did not have Will Johnson, and then 298 00:15:56,400 --> 00:16:00,640 Speaker 1: during the course of the game defensively lost Rabbit d 299 00:16:00,840 --> 00:16:06,400 Speaker 1: Rob and Walter Nolan. Offensively, Zay Jones suffered an achilles 300 00:16:06,600 --> 00:16:11,080 Speaker 1: injury and depash I think described it perfectly on the 301 00:16:11,120 --> 00:16:14,480 Speaker 1: broadcast because he's seen it. We've all seen it way 302 00:16:14,520 --> 00:16:18,120 Speaker 1: too many times, especially on the basketball court. But that 303 00:16:18,240 --> 00:16:22,520 Speaker 1: play in particular, Jay Jones looked like he got kicked 304 00:16:22,960 --> 00:16:26,120 Speaker 1: because he immediately looked down at his foot and then 305 00:16:26,320 --> 00:16:28,640 Speaker 1: you could tell he was starting to limp and then 306 00:16:28,960 --> 00:16:32,000 Speaker 1: just crumbled and needed to be helped off. So nothing 307 00:16:32,160 --> 00:16:35,360 Speaker 1: definitive except that it is an achilles and based off 308 00:16:35,360 --> 00:16:39,040 Speaker 1: how things looked, it looks like Zay Jones is going 309 00:16:39,040 --> 00:16:41,040 Speaker 1: to be lost for the rest of this season with 310 00:16:41,040 --> 00:16:41,960 Speaker 1: an achilles injury. 311 00:16:42,080 --> 00:16:44,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, and then Simmy Fayjoko went out. I mean, you're 312 00:16:44,320 --> 00:16:46,360 Speaker 2: down to a couple of receivers, You're down to a 313 00:16:46,400 --> 00:16:49,359 Speaker 2: couple running backs. It's Michael Carter and Amari de Mercado. 314 00:16:50,240 --> 00:16:52,720 Speaker 2: You know, as Bam Knight went out with the ankle, 315 00:16:52,760 --> 00:16:54,240 Speaker 2: it just seemed like there were a lot of ankles 316 00:16:54,240 --> 00:16:55,760 Speaker 2: out on that field. I don't know what it is 317 00:16:55,800 --> 00:16:59,320 Speaker 2: about the turf. It's definitely short and fast. Aaq and 318 00:16:59,400 --> 00:17:01,480 Speaker 2: I were talking about that a little bit on the plane. 319 00:17:01,480 --> 00:17:02,120 Speaker 1: It's slick. 320 00:17:03,120 --> 00:17:05,480 Speaker 2: Guys lost their footing at times. 321 00:17:05,560 --> 00:17:06,200 Speaker 1: It's just a. 322 00:17:06,320 --> 00:17:10,520 Speaker 2: Different sort of artificial turf if you will field grass 323 00:17:10,560 --> 00:17:15,080 Speaker 2: field turf. And so look, does home team haven't an 324 00:17:15,080 --> 00:17:17,760 Speaker 2: advantage because they're used to it. I would surmise yes, 325 00:17:18,320 --> 00:17:20,720 Speaker 2: But that's not the difference. When you look at you 326 00:17:20,760 --> 00:17:23,040 Speaker 2: mentioned the twenty three pressures. If you look at the 327 00:17:23,040 --> 00:17:27,520 Speaker 2: box score, it's glaring. The Seattle defense had ten passes defensed, 328 00:17:27,680 --> 00:17:31,600 Speaker 2: Cardinals had two. Right now, I get it. You know, 329 00:17:31,720 --> 00:17:34,240 Speaker 2: Cardinals had to go into throw mode and they, you know, 330 00:17:34,520 --> 00:17:37,680 Speaker 2: whereas the Seahawks didn't throw it hardly at all, only 331 00:17:37,760 --> 00:17:40,840 Speaker 2: twelve pass attempts. There's your no comprendo of the game. 332 00:17:41,160 --> 00:17:44,000 Speaker 2: But ten quarterback hits for the Seattle defense versus one 333 00:17:44,080 --> 00:17:46,960 Speaker 2: for the Cardinals, five sacks for Seattle versus one for 334 00:17:47,000 --> 00:17:49,920 Speaker 2: the Cardinals, ten tackles for loss for Seattle versus five 335 00:17:49,960 --> 00:17:53,640 Speaker 2: for the Cardinals. So you saw how the Seattle defense, 336 00:17:54,359 --> 00:17:57,359 Speaker 2: just like the Cardinals against Dallas, was in attack mode. 337 00:17:57,760 --> 00:18:00,160 Speaker 2: That was Seattle there in Week ten. 338 00:18:00,400 --> 00:18:04,080 Speaker 1: Cardinals lose forty four to twenty two one. Other notes 339 00:18:04,240 --> 00:18:08,600 Speaker 1: about the offense, and again I don't know quarterback or receiver, 340 00:18:08,840 --> 00:18:12,119 Speaker 1: but the fact that you look at the final numbers, 341 00:18:12,400 --> 00:18:16,520 Speaker 1: Marvin Harrison Junior targeted twelve times, a career high time 342 00:18:16,680 --> 00:18:20,520 Speaker 1: twelve times. Love that excellent look for eighteen as much 343 00:18:20,560 --> 00:18:24,840 Speaker 1: as possible you have. There are only three completions of 344 00:18:24,880 --> 00:18:28,160 Speaker 1: those twelve. There were a couple of drops, and that's 345 00:18:28,240 --> 00:18:31,600 Speaker 1: been an issue off and on this season for Marvin. 346 00:18:31,880 --> 00:18:33,760 Speaker 1: But the fact that you had that big of a 347 00:18:33,800 --> 00:18:36,800 Speaker 1: disparity between the number of catches and a number of 348 00:18:36,840 --> 00:18:40,440 Speaker 1: targets when you seemingly have been on the same page 349 00:18:40,440 --> 00:18:44,520 Speaker 1: for the previous three games and for whatever reason didn't materialize. Now, 350 00:18:44,680 --> 00:18:48,800 Speaker 1: is that part on the Seattle defense. The throws were hurried, 351 00:18:49,440 --> 00:18:52,720 Speaker 1: better coveraged by the defensive backs, the corners, the safeties. 352 00:18:53,119 --> 00:18:58,240 Speaker 1: But that, to me, offensively was really glaring, the fact 353 00:18:58,240 --> 00:19:01,159 Speaker 1: that you get targeted twelve times but come away with 354 00:19:01,200 --> 00:19:02,080 Speaker 1: only three catches. 355 00:19:02,480 --> 00:19:05,440 Speaker 2: Year two. He's still learning, and I think there is 356 00:19:05,480 --> 00:19:09,800 Speaker 2: a lesson to be gleaned from that film. Seattle in particular, 357 00:19:10,000 --> 00:19:14,240 Speaker 2: is gonna play probably the most aggressive form of coverage 358 00:19:14,240 --> 00:19:17,440 Speaker 2: in the league. You're gonna get a physical line of scrimmage. 359 00:19:17,440 --> 00:19:19,919 Speaker 2: They're gonna put your hands on you. Within the five yards, 360 00:19:19,920 --> 00:19:22,560 Speaker 2: they're gonna press you, and then down the field they're 361 00:19:22,560 --> 00:19:25,120 Speaker 2: gonna stay in your hip pocket. And they're probably gonna 362 00:19:25,160 --> 00:19:27,000 Speaker 2: use more man than a lot of other teams and 363 00:19:27,040 --> 00:19:29,520 Speaker 2: a lot of matchup zones. So guess what, the entirety 364 00:19:29,560 --> 00:19:32,359 Speaker 2: of the game's gonna be contested catches. This won't be 365 00:19:32,440 --> 00:19:37,520 Speaker 2: like Dallas in that poor defense historically epically bad. It's 366 00:19:37,680 --> 00:19:40,840 Speaker 2: nothing of that sort. So it's gonna be a more 367 00:19:40,920 --> 00:19:44,480 Speaker 2: physical game. Now, that's what Marvin Arrison Junior spent the 368 00:19:44,520 --> 00:19:48,080 Speaker 2: off season preparing for you know, putting on the extra muscle, 369 00:19:48,400 --> 00:19:51,840 Speaker 2: working on getting separation the top of his routes, and 370 00:19:52,040 --> 00:19:56,280 Speaker 2: too often, too many of those passes, albeit we're on 371 00:19:56,320 --> 00:19:59,000 Speaker 2: the money, were contested as well, Guys getting their hands 372 00:19:59,000 --> 00:20:02,040 Speaker 2: in there behind Marvin and just making it more difficult, 373 00:20:02,119 --> 00:20:03,960 Speaker 2: so as in a matter of getting your hands and 374 00:20:04,080 --> 00:20:06,239 Speaker 2: arms away from your body and making that catch as 375 00:20:06,280 --> 00:20:08,359 Speaker 2: far away from your body as possible to prevent the 376 00:20:08,400 --> 00:20:10,760 Speaker 2: DV from getting his arm in there. Yeah, there's probably 377 00:20:10,760 --> 00:20:13,199 Speaker 2: some of that, and then I think Marvin will probably 378 00:20:13,200 --> 00:20:15,119 Speaker 2: tell you, you know, doing a little better job of 379 00:20:15,160 --> 00:20:17,800 Speaker 2: getting some separation at times in some of those routes 380 00:20:18,160 --> 00:20:22,400 Speaker 2: so they're not as contested. But Seattle, once again, that's 381 00:20:22,400 --> 00:20:24,600 Speaker 2: the way they teach ball. And when you have Devin 382 00:20:24,600 --> 00:20:27,000 Speaker 2: Witherspoon out there two years in the league, two Pro bowls, 383 00:20:27,359 --> 00:20:31,280 Speaker 2: Reek Wollen had an all Pro rookie season, then got 384 00:20:31,280 --> 00:20:33,720 Speaker 2: in a slump and now he's rebounded. I mean to 385 00:20:33,760 --> 00:20:39,200 Speaker 2: see a six four corner over Marvin Erson Junior much 386 00:20:39,200 --> 00:20:41,480 Speaker 2: of the game because Devin Witherspoon I noticed was on 387 00:20:41,520 --> 00:20:44,119 Speaker 2: Michael Wilson quite a bit. I mean, those are some 388 00:20:44,160 --> 00:20:46,200 Speaker 2: tough matchups when Reek wollen Is on his game. 389 00:20:46,400 --> 00:20:48,720 Speaker 1: That might be the toughest matchup of the season for 390 00:20:48,760 --> 00:20:51,760 Speaker 1: those Cardinals wide receivers. Now you flip it over to 391 00:20:51,840 --> 00:20:55,480 Speaker 1: the Cardinals defense and what the Seahawks offensively, We're able 392 00:20:55,520 --> 00:20:59,160 Speaker 1: to do almost what we saw from the Cardinals Monday night, 393 00:20:59,200 --> 00:21:01,439 Speaker 1: where you throw to get a lead and then you 394 00:21:01,560 --> 00:21:05,680 Speaker 1: run it to finish off because you brought it up earlier. 395 00:21:06,359 --> 00:21:12,639 Speaker 1: Twelve pass attempts total by Sam Donold four after the 396 00:21:12,640 --> 00:21:15,560 Speaker 1: first quarter. He was seven of eight in the first 397 00:21:15,600 --> 00:21:19,480 Speaker 1: fifteen minutes of the game, just two in the second 398 00:21:19,600 --> 00:21:23,280 Speaker 1: half because one he didn't need to because the Seahawks 399 00:21:23,320 --> 00:21:26,600 Speaker 1: were running the football. That what we saw after the 400 00:21:26,600 --> 00:21:29,720 Speaker 1: first quarter, after JSN and Cooper Cup went off, is 401 00:21:29,800 --> 00:21:33,840 Speaker 1: what people remember about the Seahawks offensively. Able to run 402 00:21:33,880 --> 00:21:36,719 Speaker 1: the football, even when teams know you're going to run 403 00:21:36,800 --> 00:21:39,160 Speaker 1: it against them, still able to get those three four 404 00:21:39,320 --> 00:21:42,560 Speaker 1: five yards apiece. Seahawks, we haven't seen that a heck 405 00:21:42,600 --> 00:21:44,360 Speaker 1: of a lot this season. I don't know if it's 406 00:21:44,400 --> 00:21:48,680 Speaker 1: because of the first year offensive coordinator with Clint Kubiak 407 00:21:48,840 --> 00:21:51,600 Speaker 1: in there, maybe a little bit different of a scheme, 408 00:21:51,800 --> 00:21:54,720 Speaker 1: but certainly when you have a thirty five to nothing lead. 409 00:21:54,800 --> 00:21:57,760 Speaker 1: It's okay, We're gonna turn and hand the ball off 410 00:21:57,800 --> 00:22:00,920 Speaker 1: because they do have two very solid runs in Zach 411 00:22:00,960 --> 00:22:02,280 Speaker 1: Sharboney and Kenneth Walker. 412 00:22:02,840 --> 00:22:05,520 Speaker 2: To me, the key to the entire Seattle team, it's 413 00:22:05,560 --> 00:22:10,080 Speaker 2: not Sam Darnold, it's not that defense, Leonard Williams, Devin Witherspoon. 414 00:22:10,119 --> 00:22:12,919 Speaker 2: To me, it's the offensive line. They've struggled in the 415 00:22:12,960 --> 00:22:17,960 Speaker 2: trenches offensively for dang near a decade, and Jim john 416 00:22:18,040 --> 00:22:21,040 Speaker 2: Snyder was able to find an effective fix in the offseason. 417 00:22:21,280 --> 00:22:23,080 Speaker 2: We're on the team playing coming back and we're just 418 00:22:23,119 --> 00:22:25,320 Speaker 2: sort of catching up on some of the headlines. And 419 00:22:26,400 --> 00:22:28,680 Speaker 2: Dave Pass you know, I tend to explain the game 420 00:22:28,680 --> 00:22:30,879 Speaker 2: of football to Dave here and there, and he said, 421 00:22:31,320 --> 00:22:33,719 Speaker 2: and I quote, you know, what's the deal with the Bears? 422 00:22:33,720 --> 00:22:34,399 Speaker 2: Are they legit? 423 00:22:34,640 --> 00:22:34,760 Speaker 1: Like? 424 00:22:34,800 --> 00:22:36,879 Speaker 2: You know what's going on? I said, Well, they fixed 425 00:22:36,880 --> 00:22:39,840 Speaker 2: their offensive line. You know, Caleb Williams got sacked a 426 00:22:39,880 --> 00:22:41,600 Speaker 2: million times last year. Now, a lot of those were 427 00:22:41,640 --> 00:22:43,159 Speaker 2: his fault. He didn't get rid of the football and 428 00:22:43,160 --> 00:22:45,840 Speaker 2: he's holding it for five, six, seven seconds. But they 429 00:22:45,840 --> 00:22:48,479 Speaker 2: went out and they drafted real well at right tackle, 430 00:22:48,920 --> 00:22:50,600 Speaker 2: and then they got Joe Toney to be one of 431 00:22:50,600 --> 00:22:54,280 Speaker 2: their starting guards. And then AQ took out his earbuds 432 00:22:54,280 --> 00:22:56,439 Speaker 2: and said, hey, I had the Bears rated as the 433 00:22:56,560 --> 00:23:00,400 Speaker 2: number one offensive line last week, and to meet has 434 00:23:00,480 --> 00:23:03,320 Speaker 2: fixed its offensive line. They had given up nine sacks 435 00:23:03,320 --> 00:23:05,399 Speaker 2: and eight games coming into that game. Now I get it. 436 00:23:05,440 --> 00:23:07,040 Speaker 2: They get Darnold on the movie, gets rid of the 437 00:23:07,040 --> 00:23:09,680 Speaker 2: ball really quick. They have a decent enough run game 438 00:23:09,720 --> 00:23:11,720 Speaker 2: to keep you honest, even though they rate lower in 439 00:23:11,720 --> 00:23:14,639 Speaker 2: the league. But they commit to the run, so to me, 440 00:23:15,480 --> 00:23:17,520 Speaker 2: and that's where I thought the Cardinals could honestly win 441 00:23:17,560 --> 00:23:19,480 Speaker 2: the game. Based on what the Cardinals did along the 442 00:23:19,520 --> 00:23:23,280 Speaker 2: defensive front, getting to Dak Prescott and really dictating to 443 00:23:23,320 --> 00:23:26,720 Speaker 2: a pretty darn good Dallas offensive line. I was not 444 00:23:26,760 --> 00:23:29,159 Speaker 2: a believer until I saw a Seattle in person and 445 00:23:29,280 --> 00:23:32,680 Speaker 2: that offensive line, Gray's Abel, the two tackles Ade Lucas, 446 00:23:32,720 --> 00:23:35,680 Speaker 2: and you know they're much improved. If there's a most 447 00:23:35,720 --> 00:23:37,679 Speaker 2: Improved award in the NFL, I don't know if they 448 00:23:37,680 --> 00:23:39,760 Speaker 2: still give that out or if they ever did, I 449 00:23:39,760 --> 00:23:41,560 Speaker 2: would vote for the Seattle offensive line. 450 00:23:41,640 --> 00:23:44,320 Speaker 1: Comes back to what I said earlier here line of scrimmage, 451 00:23:44,640 --> 00:23:46,960 Speaker 1: and the Cardinals were beaten on both sides of the 452 00:23:47,000 --> 00:23:51,840 Speaker 1: ball and didn't see the disruption like we saw against 453 00:23:51,920 --> 00:23:55,960 Speaker 1: the Cowboys on Monday nights. Now, maybe that was because 454 00:23:56,560 --> 00:24:00,919 Speaker 1: the field conditions or the offensive line better Seattle then 455 00:24:00,960 --> 00:24:04,159 Speaker 1: the Cowboys had that particular night, but it didn't seem 456 00:24:04,280 --> 00:24:07,120 Speaker 1: like again, there weren't a lot of dropbacks. Sam Darnov 457 00:24:07,240 --> 00:24:10,640 Speaker 1: only again twelve pass attempts, you're able to run the football. 458 00:24:11,400 --> 00:24:14,879 Speaker 1: Almost two hundred rushing yards by the Seahawks. That's the 459 00:24:14,920 --> 00:24:17,720 Speaker 1: most that they've had this season, so most Cardinals have 460 00:24:17,800 --> 00:24:20,360 Speaker 1: given up. You go back to Week four in which 461 00:24:20,400 --> 00:24:23,240 Speaker 1: the Seahawks had one hundred and fifty five rushing yards. 462 00:24:23,280 --> 00:24:25,000 Speaker 1: So I don't know. Maybe it might be one of 463 00:24:25,000 --> 00:24:29,960 Speaker 1: those matchup issues that sometimes you see, depending on what's 464 00:24:30,000 --> 00:24:33,720 Speaker 1: going on, they just we don't have a particular We try, 465 00:24:33,960 --> 00:24:36,479 Speaker 1: but for whatever reason we can't figure it out. They 466 00:24:36,520 --> 00:24:38,919 Speaker 1: always have had the answer for whatever we're throwing at them, 467 00:24:38,960 --> 00:24:41,439 Speaker 1: because that's what it seemed like through two games against 468 00:24:41,440 --> 00:24:42,200 Speaker 1: the Seahawks. 469 00:24:42,359 --> 00:24:45,080 Speaker 2: And you know what, the Cardinals defensive line was salty 470 00:24:45,200 --> 00:24:48,400 Speaker 2: about that Thursday night loss at against Seattle at home 471 00:24:48,440 --> 00:24:51,679 Speaker 2: when they ran for the buck fifty five. So I 472 00:24:51,800 --> 00:24:55,960 Speaker 2: was fully expecting a highly motivated Cardinals defensive front to 473 00:24:56,000 --> 00:24:58,200 Speaker 2: try and stop the run. Now, are they without Mac 474 00:24:58,240 --> 00:25:00,919 Speaker 2: Wilson senior the leading tackler, I guess Cody Simon. But 475 00:25:00,920 --> 00:25:05,119 Speaker 2: according to Jonathan Gannon, operationally the Cardinals defense was fine. 476 00:25:06,000 --> 00:25:08,199 Speaker 2: They really hurt him in week four on Thursday Night, 477 00:25:08,280 --> 00:25:11,359 Speaker 2: Seattle did with cracked toss getting to the edges. Cardinals 478 00:25:11,400 --> 00:25:14,239 Speaker 2: didn't set the edge well in that loss, and there 479 00:25:14,320 --> 00:25:16,760 Speaker 2: was just some fundamental stuff. So the Cardinals were better 480 00:25:16,800 --> 00:25:20,439 Speaker 2: in that department. So yeah, but when they run it 481 00:25:20,680 --> 00:25:23,800 Speaker 2: forty six times now, it's just over four yards of carry. 482 00:25:24,240 --> 00:25:26,000 Speaker 2: It wasn't like it was five yards of carry, but 483 00:25:26,160 --> 00:25:29,240 Speaker 2: there was enough and they have enough fresh legs between 484 00:25:29,240 --> 00:25:31,879 Speaker 2: the three running backs to you know, be able to 485 00:25:31,920 --> 00:25:34,080 Speaker 2: really stoke it. And they break a lot of tackles. 486 00:25:34,080 --> 00:25:36,119 Speaker 2: You gotta come, You got to come ready to make 487 00:25:36,160 --> 00:25:40,200 Speaker 2: a physical tackle. And too often Cardinals defenders of the 488 00:25:40,280 --> 00:25:42,840 Speaker 2: second and third level were the ones making the tackles. 489 00:25:42,920 --> 00:25:47,000 Speaker 1: And defensively, the Cardinals didn't get to obvious passing or 490 00:25:47,080 --> 00:25:50,080 Speaker 1: obvious rushing situations in which you were able to rush 491 00:25:50,160 --> 00:25:52,760 Speaker 1: the quarterback and maybe bring that extra pressure because it 492 00:25:52,800 --> 00:25:54,880 Speaker 1: wasn't a lot of third and lungs not a lot 493 00:25:54,880 --> 00:25:58,000 Speaker 1: of third down opportunities period, especially in the first half. 494 00:25:58,080 --> 00:26:01,240 Speaker 1: So again you give the Seahawk credit for what they 495 00:26:01,240 --> 00:26:03,040 Speaker 1: were able to do, and then all of a sudden, 496 00:26:03,040 --> 00:26:06,879 Speaker 1: it's okay, Well, was this just a bad day for 497 00:26:07,000 --> 00:26:09,440 Speaker 1: the Cardinals offense and defense? They just have a bad 498 00:26:09,560 --> 00:26:12,280 Speaker 1: day on a bad game, on a bad day. Or 499 00:26:12,840 --> 00:26:15,639 Speaker 1: is there something more? Because I still go back to 500 00:26:15,680 --> 00:26:18,240 Speaker 1: the Monday night game and how things looked against the 501 00:26:18,280 --> 00:26:21,240 Speaker 1: Cowboys to have it go a complete one point eighty 502 00:26:21,560 --> 00:26:24,520 Speaker 1: just six days later, that there's got to be something more. 503 00:26:24,640 --> 00:26:26,680 Speaker 1: Maybe it is just the fact that the Seahawks are 504 00:26:26,720 --> 00:26:29,000 Speaker 1: the best team the Cardinals have faced to date. 505 00:26:29,400 --> 00:26:32,679 Speaker 2: And you know what, things got sideways so quick, and 506 00:26:33,000 --> 00:26:36,560 Speaker 2: the game plan changed so radically for Seattle. What was 507 00:26:36,600 --> 00:26:39,760 Speaker 2: a very balanced offense then started to exclusively run the ball. 508 00:26:39,760 --> 00:26:43,600 Speaker 2: What was it for pass attempts after from the second quartern? Yeah, 509 00:26:43,760 --> 00:26:46,200 Speaker 2: so think about that. So the Cardinals can never get 510 00:26:46,240 --> 00:26:49,080 Speaker 2: into and I reported this from the sideline that my 511 00:26:49,200 --> 00:26:53,560 Speaker 2: understanding in terms of the approach was that all right, 512 00:26:53,920 --> 00:26:55,520 Speaker 2: you're gonna try and get him to a third and 513 00:26:55,640 --> 00:26:58,320 Speaker 2: pass second. In passing, right, you're gonna be really stout 514 00:26:58,400 --> 00:27:00,679 Speaker 2: in first and second down, and then you're gonna have 515 00:27:00,680 --> 00:27:03,280 Speaker 2: a ton of crazy zones and cover twos. So you're 516 00:27:03,280 --> 00:27:06,119 Speaker 2: gonna have to try and stop JSN and company because 517 00:27:06,160 --> 00:27:08,919 Speaker 2: where Jackson Smith and JIB will really hurt the Cardinals. 518 00:27:09,080 --> 00:27:11,760 Speaker 2: You remember he was silent first three quarters a week four, 519 00:27:11,800 --> 00:27:13,360 Speaker 2: but then in the fourth quarter he made some key 520 00:27:13,400 --> 00:27:15,960 Speaker 2: plays and he was instrumental in the Seahawks getting that 521 00:27:16,040 --> 00:27:19,919 Speaker 2: walk off fifty two yard field goal. Well, the Seahawks 522 00:27:19,920 --> 00:27:22,040 Speaker 2: beat the Cardinals when they went some of the man 523 00:27:22,080 --> 00:27:25,360 Speaker 2: coverages and what does Darnold do. He sees man against JSN. 524 00:27:25,560 --> 00:27:27,959 Speaker 2: It's like the old Larry Fitzgerald effect. Oh he's got 525 00:27:28,000 --> 00:27:30,600 Speaker 2: single coverage, he's open. I'm just gonna chuck it up 526 00:27:30,680 --> 00:27:33,240 Speaker 2: and trust my guy. We'll make the play sure enough. 527 00:27:33,520 --> 00:27:35,600 Speaker 2: That's how they got the forty three yard strike. To 528 00:27:35,800 --> 00:27:38,480 Speaker 2: some degree, he saw that it was just gart Way. Now, 529 00:27:38,520 --> 00:27:40,600 Speaker 2: Garrett Williams was step for step. What he say after 530 00:27:40,600 --> 00:27:41,800 Speaker 2: the game, he stepped on the foot. 531 00:27:41,880 --> 00:27:43,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, slipped, lost his foot, He. 532 00:27:43,359 --> 00:27:46,800 Speaker 2: Lost his footing, And so that was disappointed in deflating 533 00:27:46,840 --> 00:27:48,600 Speaker 2: because if Garrett Williams, who was in. 534 00:27:48,520 --> 00:27:51,160 Speaker 1: Position to make that play till he tripped. 535 00:27:51,040 --> 00:27:53,960 Speaker 2: If he makes that play. I think that goes a 536 00:27:54,040 --> 00:27:57,160 Speaker 2: long way and just giving some confidence to the Cardinals' sideline, 537 00:27:57,280 --> 00:27:59,840 Speaker 2: silencing the building right out of the gate on this 538 00:27:59,840 --> 00:28:03,280 Speaker 2: Seahawks first possession. But that's football, and. 539 00:28:03,280 --> 00:28:06,679 Speaker 1: It gave maybe the Seahawks confidence to keep throwing it 540 00:28:06,960 --> 00:28:10,719 Speaker 1: to Jsn's direction because on the second offensive possession there 541 00:28:10,800 --> 00:28:13,240 Speaker 1: was a seventeen yard catch, a fourteen yard catch, and 542 00:28:13,600 --> 00:28:16,760 Speaker 1: JSN in the first two series of the game had 543 00:28:16,760 --> 00:28:19,840 Speaker 1: as many catches as he did all in that first meeting. 544 00:28:20,160 --> 00:28:23,439 Speaker 1: But it was how as good as Jaysn was to 545 00:28:23,480 --> 00:28:26,679 Speaker 1: close out the Cardinals in Week four, he helped close 546 00:28:26,680 --> 00:28:30,000 Speaker 1: out the Cardinals in the first quarter of the game 547 00:28:30,119 --> 00:28:33,960 Speaker 1: on Sunday Night. And again no Max Melton, no Will Johnson, 548 00:28:33,960 --> 00:28:36,399 Speaker 1: would that have helped. Well, Garrett did not play in 549 00:28:36,440 --> 00:28:39,160 Speaker 1: that Week four game. Well Johnson didn't play in that 550 00:28:39,240 --> 00:28:42,239 Speaker 1: Week four game. So again, no one wants to hear 551 00:28:42,280 --> 00:28:45,240 Speaker 1: about your injuries, it's how do you overcome those injuries. 552 00:28:45,520 --> 00:28:49,440 Speaker 1: And Denzel Burke did have another interception. He was targeted 553 00:28:49,520 --> 00:28:52,000 Speaker 1: a lot for a guy that I don't know if 554 00:28:52,000 --> 00:28:54,720 Speaker 1: we were asking much from him as a fifth round 555 00:28:54,720 --> 00:28:57,040 Speaker 1: pick this late in the season to play as much 556 00:28:57,040 --> 00:28:59,160 Speaker 1: as he has, and then you brought up Cody Simon. 557 00:28:59,200 --> 00:29:02,880 Speaker 1: It didn't look like there were any issues operationally, and 558 00:29:02,920 --> 00:29:05,280 Speaker 1: it seemed like everyone was where they needed to be. 559 00:29:05,400 --> 00:29:07,800 Speaker 1: Now you got to finish the play. Didn't do that, 560 00:29:07,920 --> 00:29:13,400 Speaker 1: but it didn't seem like there was a glaring, glaring 561 00:29:13,480 --> 00:29:16,640 Speaker 1: a mission without Mac Wilson Senior on the field. Now 562 00:29:16,640 --> 00:29:19,840 Speaker 1: you maybe lose some of his football IQ and his athleticism, 563 00:29:19,920 --> 00:29:22,640 Speaker 1: but as far as getting everyone in position, didn't look 564 00:29:22,680 --> 00:29:25,600 Speaker 1: like there were a lot of scrambling or guys confused 565 00:29:25,600 --> 00:29:27,640 Speaker 1: about what they needed to do on any of the 566 00:29:27,680 --> 00:29:28,320 Speaker 1: three levels. 567 00:29:28,520 --> 00:29:31,200 Speaker 2: I would agree with that. Yeah, absolutely, I thought, you know, 568 00:29:31,480 --> 00:29:34,479 Speaker 2: in Buddha Baker and Garrett Williams are really good at 569 00:29:34,480 --> 00:29:38,120 Speaker 2: getting guys aligned and assigned correctly, now as far as 570 00:29:38,200 --> 00:29:40,680 Speaker 2: Denzel Burke and even Key troll Clark. Because what you 571 00:29:40,720 --> 00:29:44,000 Speaker 2: saw was Garrett Williams would be outside until they went 572 00:29:44,120 --> 00:29:46,600 Speaker 2: nickel or dime, and then Garrett Williams would go inside 573 00:29:46,600 --> 00:29:52,200 Speaker 2: to his typical nickel corner slot. And what you saw 574 00:29:52,520 --> 00:29:56,440 Speaker 2: was what Jonathan Gannon described when Darren Irman asked him 575 00:29:56,920 --> 00:30:00,680 Speaker 2: last week, what is any ricky cornerback find out when 576 00:30:00,720 --> 00:30:03,440 Speaker 2: he gets to the league and that's obviously Jonathan Gannon's 577 00:30:03,440 --> 00:30:05,720 Speaker 2: position of expertise more than any other because he coached 578 00:30:05,760 --> 00:30:07,760 Speaker 2: it for so long. And he said two things. One 579 00:30:07,800 --> 00:30:10,640 Speaker 2: they find out right away how accurate quarterbacks are and 580 00:30:10,680 --> 00:30:13,160 Speaker 2: how quickly the ball can get on you. And that 581 00:30:13,240 --> 00:30:15,400 Speaker 2: happened to Denzel Burke. Man he was right there a 582 00:30:15,480 --> 00:30:18,719 Speaker 2: couple of times. But that's all NFL quarterbacks who are 583 00:30:18,720 --> 00:30:21,800 Speaker 2: on their game need is just that little. It's not 584 00:30:21,880 --> 00:30:24,240 Speaker 2: two feet of separation like it is in the college game. 585 00:30:24,280 --> 00:30:27,760 Speaker 2: It's two inches and and you know that's that's I 586 00:30:27,760 --> 00:30:31,040 Speaker 2: think where Denzel Burke is going to evolve. By the way, 587 00:30:31,040 --> 00:30:33,040 Speaker 2: I totally forgot to ask him last week. He spent 588 00:30:33,240 --> 00:30:36,160 Speaker 2: five years at Ohio State, so he must have gone 589 00:30:36,160 --> 00:30:39,760 Speaker 2: against JSN. Yes in practice, right, Yes, had to have so, 590 00:30:40,400 --> 00:30:44,360 Speaker 2: you know, because it's not like JSN was torching the 591 00:30:44,400 --> 00:30:47,080 Speaker 2: Cardinals secondary, but at times Sam Darnold had too much 592 00:30:47,120 --> 00:30:49,440 Speaker 2: time to throw. And a guy who's tracking for two 593 00:30:49,640 --> 00:30:53,200 Speaker 2: thousand receiving yards right now, which is beyond anything Jerry 594 00:30:53,280 --> 00:30:56,120 Speaker 2: Rice even did. Well, he's going to be a handful. 595 00:30:56,440 --> 00:30:58,360 Speaker 1: Anything else, Paul, Because I do want to leave with 596 00:30:58,920 --> 00:31:02,560 Speaker 1: some positive vibe here on a Monday, But anything else 597 00:31:02,640 --> 00:31:06,400 Speaker 1: offensively or defensively that stood out to you that we 598 00:31:06,560 --> 00:31:10,000 Speaker 1: have not discussed here, because and I do believe that 599 00:31:10,040 --> 00:31:13,680 Speaker 1: there is a semblance of that Bird Gang fan base 600 00:31:13,760 --> 00:31:16,440 Speaker 1: out there that, Okay, what happened on Sunday, he's just 601 00:31:16,520 --> 00:31:20,840 Speaker 1: flush it. Something AQ brought up postgame, and then you asked. 602 00:31:20,960 --> 00:31:22,880 Speaker 1: JG's like, no, we're gonna watch the film and try 603 00:31:22,880 --> 00:31:24,840 Speaker 1: to make the corrections. And I get both sides of it, 604 00:31:24,920 --> 00:31:28,360 Speaker 1: but it was it looked that bad to wear. Okay, 605 00:31:28,440 --> 00:31:31,480 Speaker 1: you're not gonna face the Seahawks again this season. Let's 606 00:31:31,520 --> 00:31:34,160 Speaker 1: just turn our attention immediately to the forty nine ers. 607 00:31:34,400 --> 00:31:37,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, you're right, and he was adamant. He's adamant. We're 608 00:31:37,040 --> 00:31:39,479 Speaker 2: gonna learn from that film. We're gonna watch that film. 609 00:31:39,760 --> 00:31:42,239 Speaker 2: So okay, kudos to that. You know, the only thing 610 00:31:42,240 --> 00:31:43,840 Speaker 2: I'll throw in is a footnote. And I wrote this 611 00:31:43,920 --> 00:31:48,320 Speaker 2: down here, and not to be captain obvious, but the 612 00:31:48,360 --> 00:31:50,640 Speaker 2: effort that Trey McBride. 613 00:31:50,160 --> 00:31:51,040 Speaker 1: I was gonna bring him up. 614 00:31:51,080 --> 00:31:54,120 Speaker 2: Yes, I mean, when you talk about leaving it all 615 00:31:54,120 --> 00:31:57,480 Speaker 2: on the field, this guy literally is the epitome of 616 00:31:57,520 --> 00:32:00,479 Speaker 2: that cliche. He came in, he had the touchdown catch, right, 617 00:32:00,520 --> 00:32:02,280 Speaker 2: fifteen yard touchdown catch. 618 00:32:02,120 --> 00:32:04,320 Speaker 1: In which he probably should have been stopped at about 619 00:32:04,320 --> 00:32:05,560 Speaker 1: the six or seven yard line. 620 00:32:05,600 --> 00:32:07,719 Speaker 2: True, and at that point he had eight for one 621 00:32:07,800 --> 00:32:10,040 Speaker 2: twenty one and the touchdown. He wasn't out there for 622 00:32:10,080 --> 00:32:12,440 Speaker 2: the two point attempt. You know why because he came 623 00:32:12,520 --> 00:32:15,520 Speaker 2: over to the sideline and we all clear it out 624 00:32:15,840 --> 00:32:18,800 Speaker 2: because he didn't even make it inside the thirty yard line. 625 00:32:18,840 --> 00:32:22,400 Speaker 2: He was so gassed. Unbuckles, his helmet, flips, it off 626 00:32:22,400 --> 00:32:24,800 Speaker 2: his head, it just drops, and then he dropped to 627 00:32:24,840 --> 00:32:28,560 Speaker 2: a knee and he was just gasping for Brett, just 628 00:32:28,600 --> 00:32:33,560 Speaker 2: trying to physically recover. I don't think anyone, and this 629 00:32:33,640 --> 00:32:36,040 Speaker 2: is saying something. I don't think anyone on that team, 630 00:32:36,320 --> 00:32:40,240 Speaker 2: from snap to sap snap exerts that much effort and 631 00:32:40,320 --> 00:32:44,120 Speaker 2: physicality as a Trey McBride. He's getting doubled all the time, 632 00:32:44,720 --> 00:32:47,840 Speaker 2: He's getting hit from all angles. Yeah, he's making these 633 00:32:47,840 --> 00:32:50,960 Speaker 2: insane catches and then he's getting yards after the catch. 634 00:32:51,360 --> 00:32:54,000 Speaker 2: He's been asked to block, he's running routes at second 635 00:32:54,040 --> 00:32:55,800 Speaker 2: and third levels, has to come back to the huddle 636 00:32:55,840 --> 00:32:59,320 Speaker 2: do it all over again. Extended drives, I mean, just 637 00:32:59,360 --> 00:33:02,479 Speaker 2: what they're asking him to do physically how demanding his 638 00:33:02,600 --> 00:33:04,920 Speaker 2: job is. And that's not the first time I've seen 639 00:33:05,000 --> 00:33:07,120 Speaker 2: him come to the sideline in the second half and 640 00:33:07,120 --> 00:33:11,040 Speaker 2: be like, and you wonder, you know, is is he 641 00:33:11,120 --> 00:33:14,200 Speaker 2: gonna need like some more snaps off? Nope, Nope, next 642 00:33:14,240 --> 00:33:17,120 Speaker 2: series he's back in And I don't know if he 643 00:33:17,520 --> 00:33:19,800 Speaker 2: even missed a snap other than that two point conversion, 644 00:33:20,400 --> 00:33:23,520 Speaker 2: but a shout out to eighty five and just and 645 00:33:23,560 --> 00:33:25,920 Speaker 2: he is someone that the rest of the team feeds 646 00:33:25,960 --> 00:33:27,520 Speaker 2: off of. And I think we're watching in. 647 00:33:27,560 --> 00:33:30,840 Speaker 1: All Pro season, played sixty four of the seventy six 648 00:33:31,080 --> 00:33:34,720 Speaker 1: offensive snaps. But to your point, that scene, TV picked 649 00:33:34,720 --> 00:33:36,600 Speaker 1: it up and you could see where he was on 650 00:33:36,640 --> 00:33:39,360 Speaker 1: a knee and it's like, okay, just give me some space, 651 00:33:39,600 --> 00:33:42,320 Speaker 1: and it was kind of you watch you see that, 652 00:33:42,360 --> 00:33:44,360 Speaker 1: and I was like, wait, there's a two point conversion 653 00:33:44,520 --> 00:33:48,000 Speaker 1: and Trey's not on the field. But yeah, good reporting 654 00:33:48,080 --> 00:33:50,760 Speaker 1: on your part. He didn't have anything left in the tank. 655 00:33:50,800 --> 00:33:53,280 Speaker 1: He needed to recharge a little bit for the rest 656 00:33:53,400 --> 00:33:58,440 Speaker 1: of that game. But Trey someone that what we have 657 00:33:58,560 --> 00:34:02,560 Speaker 1: seen not only on Sunday but now this entire season. 658 00:34:02,680 --> 00:34:05,800 Speaker 1: I mean the numbers that he is putting up touchdown 659 00:34:05,880 --> 00:34:09,120 Speaker 1: catching four straight games first time in his career, eleventh 660 00:34:09,200 --> 00:34:11,920 Speaker 1: straight game dating back to last season with at least 661 00:34:11,960 --> 00:34:16,880 Speaker 1: five receptions, longest active streak among tight ends. His one 662 00:34:16,920 --> 00:34:19,480 Speaker 1: hundred and twenty seven receiving yards were the third highest 663 00:34:19,560 --> 00:34:22,640 Speaker 1: of his career, six times in his career that he's 664 00:34:22,640 --> 00:34:25,319 Speaker 1: had over one hundred receiving yards in a game, and 665 00:34:25,360 --> 00:34:27,440 Speaker 1: he got thirteen targets for the second time in three 666 00:34:27,480 --> 00:34:32,560 Speaker 1: games overall. So he is your number one playmaker in 667 00:34:32,600 --> 00:34:35,840 Speaker 1: the absence of a James Connor and still Marvin Harrison 668 00:34:35,920 --> 00:34:39,240 Speaker 1: Junior trying to figure things out. But yeah, I would 669 00:34:39,280 --> 00:34:42,359 Speaker 1: hate to think where this team, forget the offense, where 670 00:34:42,400 --> 00:34:44,520 Speaker 1: this team might be if you did not have eighty 671 00:34:44,600 --> 00:34:46,279 Speaker 1: five in the building. 672 00:34:46,080 --> 00:34:49,959 Speaker 2: Number one playmaker. And because of that, he's the number 673 00:34:49,960 --> 00:34:53,480 Speaker 2: one target for defensive coordinators. So he gets everything in 674 00:34:53,520 --> 00:34:57,040 Speaker 2: the kitchen sync thrown at him, and he's still making plays. 675 00:34:57,360 --> 00:34:59,680 Speaker 2: He's still a headache and a problem. He's still having 676 00:34:59,719 --> 00:35:02,960 Speaker 2: an all pro caliber season. I was trying to remember. 677 00:35:03,000 --> 00:35:05,400 Speaker 2: The other game was Indianapolis where he is getting chipped 678 00:35:05,400 --> 00:35:07,879 Speaker 2: by a defensive end, and so there was a moment 679 00:35:07,880 --> 00:35:09,560 Speaker 2: in the second half he came to the sideline again. 680 00:35:09,600 --> 00:35:13,720 Speaker 2: I mean physically just getting tested on every single play 681 00:35:13,840 --> 00:35:17,160 Speaker 2: like unlike any other player on the Cardinals roster. Right now, 682 00:35:17,320 --> 00:35:18,160 Speaker 2: that leads us. 683 00:35:18,000 --> 00:35:20,759 Speaker 1: To our Angry Bird Award winner. I mean, did we 684 00:35:20,880 --> 00:35:23,920 Speaker 1: just talk about him momentarily or is there someone else 685 00:35:24,000 --> 00:35:27,520 Speaker 1: maybe that TV didn't pick up and might have been 686 00:35:27,600 --> 00:35:31,080 Speaker 1: lost in the discussion from Sunday because it's not how 687 00:35:31,120 --> 00:35:33,840 Speaker 1: well you played the entire game, but maybe a certain 688 00:35:34,080 --> 00:35:36,879 Speaker 1: moment in the game. Obviously you talked about the Josh 689 00:35:36,920 --> 00:35:40,040 Speaker 1: Swt stripsack, and not only was he able to get 690 00:35:40,040 --> 00:35:42,680 Speaker 1: the ball out, but he recovered the football as well. 691 00:35:42,880 --> 00:35:46,360 Speaker 1: There's some athleticism right there. But again, as we mentioned 692 00:35:46,360 --> 00:35:48,840 Speaker 1: off the top, there wasn't a whole lot of good 693 00:35:49,000 --> 00:35:53,280 Speaker 1: from Sunday, but certainly some good individual moments in Seattle. 694 00:35:53,280 --> 00:35:55,279 Speaker 2: You know what, Drey mcbrie could definitely get it. He 695 00:35:55,320 --> 00:35:57,279 Speaker 2: has several of them already. You know, he won't even 696 00:35:57,320 --> 00:35:59,239 Speaker 2: acknowledge me at this point because he has so many 697 00:35:59,320 --> 00:36:02,719 Speaker 2: Josh sweat for that strip sack. I'm gonna go just 698 00:36:03,080 --> 00:36:05,239 Speaker 2: and this is more of a longevity award over the 699 00:36:05,239 --> 00:36:10,000 Speaker 2: course of a season. Mari Demurcato just his first game 700 00:36:10,040 --> 00:36:13,120 Speaker 2: with over one hundred scrimming yards. What he's doing as 701 00:36:13,160 --> 00:36:15,600 Speaker 2: a three down back right now, he's no longer just 702 00:36:15,640 --> 00:36:18,440 Speaker 2: a pass pro third down back. You can throw it 703 00:36:18,440 --> 00:36:20,439 Speaker 2: to him, you can hand it to him. He's got 704 00:36:20,440 --> 00:36:23,719 Speaker 2: a burst. He ripped off the fifty five yarder. Is 705 00:36:24,000 --> 00:36:25,200 Speaker 2: he gonna finish every time? 706 00:36:25,400 --> 00:36:25,600 Speaker 1: No? 707 00:36:25,680 --> 00:36:28,239 Speaker 2: Not quite. Sort of like lad McConkie was caught by 708 00:36:28,320 --> 00:36:32,640 Speaker 2: Jalen Ramsey, we get it. But he's elusive. He's sort 709 00:36:32,680 --> 00:36:35,120 Speaker 2: of a sleeper. If he's a car guy, so he's 710 00:36:35,160 --> 00:36:37,239 Speaker 2: sort of a sleeper, right You don't realize he's got 711 00:36:37,280 --> 00:36:39,480 Speaker 2: like a four to twenty seven under the hood, and 712 00:36:39,520 --> 00:36:41,279 Speaker 2: you just think it's a regular sedan and all of 713 00:36:41,280 --> 00:36:43,960 Speaker 2: a sudden, he's blowing your doors off drag racing. He's 714 00:36:43,960 --> 00:36:46,680 Speaker 2: sort of that guy. He'll leave dudes behind. But I 715 00:36:46,840 --> 00:36:50,319 Speaker 2: just the fact that he's able to rebound from what 716 00:36:50,400 --> 00:36:52,879 Speaker 2: happened in the Titans game and then he talked about 717 00:36:52,880 --> 00:36:55,000 Speaker 2: it at length with the media. I think he earned 718 00:36:55,000 --> 00:36:57,640 Speaker 2: a lot in the media members respect what he endured 719 00:36:57,680 --> 00:37:03,400 Speaker 2: on social media and is still mentally resolute and focused. 720 00:37:04,040 --> 00:37:05,919 Speaker 2: And to me, if you're looking for someone to sort 721 00:37:05,960 --> 00:37:09,480 Speaker 2: of rally around, rally behind not only the fans, but teammates, 722 00:37:09,520 --> 00:37:11,640 Speaker 2: as well, and just look at how locked in he 723 00:37:11,719 --> 00:37:13,279 Speaker 2: is and he does his job. And that's one of 724 00:37:13,320 --> 00:37:15,279 Speaker 2: the things that Klays was screaming on the sideline. 725 00:37:15,480 --> 00:37:16,320 Speaker 1: Just do your job. 726 00:37:16,760 --> 00:37:18,160 Speaker 2: Mario Dearmercatto was that guy. 727 00:37:18,320 --> 00:37:22,439 Speaker 1: Good call sixty four rushing yards, forty receiving yards from 728 00:37:22,480 --> 00:37:24,719 Speaker 1: Mary dearmccado. And then late in the game it was 729 00:37:24,760 --> 00:37:27,440 Speaker 1: he and Michael Carter because Bam Knight went down with 730 00:37:27,480 --> 00:37:30,000 Speaker 1: an ankle injury. The other injury note we'll keep an 731 00:37:30,040 --> 00:37:33,000 Speaker 1: eye on this is while Jonah Williams suffered a shoulder injury. 732 00:37:33,040 --> 00:37:35,680 Speaker 1: So all of a sudden, Calvin Beacham was played a 733 00:37:35,719 --> 00:37:39,439 Speaker 1: lot as your six offensive lineman slash tight in came 734 00:37:39,480 --> 00:37:43,000 Speaker 1: in to play right tackle. Do we see that moving forward? 735 00:37:44,040 --> 00:37:46,520 Speaker 1: But again, as we said, no one cares about your injuries. 736 00:37:46,760 --> 00:37:48,319 Speaker 1: You got to be able to figure it out and 737 00:37:48,360 --> 00:37:50,359 Speaker 1: figure out how to get a w because the forty 738 00:37:50,440 --> 00:37:52,640 Speaker 1: nine ers are just as banged up, maybe even more so. 739 00:37:53,200 --> 00:37:55,440 Speaker 1: No Nick Bosa, that was the game, the first meeting 740 00:37:55,480 --> 00:37:58,479 Speaker 1: against the Cardinals. Nick Bosa lost for the season. Fred 741 00:37:58,520 --> 00:38:01,879 Speaker 1: Warner does for the year, Their rookie first round draft pick, 742 00:38:02,000 --> 00:38:06,040 Speaker 1: Michael Williams done for the year. Maybe they play brock 743 00:38:06,080 --> 00:38:08,640 Speaker 1: Purty this week, maybe not mac Jones over three hundred 744 00:38:08,680 --> 00:38:13,000 Speaker 1: passing yards and three touchdowns. Yeah, it's it's gonna be 745 00:38:13,080 --> 00:38:16,520 Speaker 1: an interesting game coming up Sunday at State Farm Stadium. 746 00:38:16,680 --> 00:38:19,319 Speaker 2: And they just went against Matthew Stafford, who's on an 747 00:38:19,360 --> 00:38:23,640 Speaker 2: absolute heater right now. Twenty touchdown passes and no picks. 748 00:38:23,719 --> 00:38:27,240 Speaker 2: That's the streak. He's on. Twenty t d passes, no interceptions, 749 00:38:27,600 --> 00:38:30,040 Speaker 2: playing maybe the best ball of his career, which is 750 00:38:30,080 --> 00:38:34,000 Speaker 2: saying something. So you know, that's what was most One 751 00:38:34,040 --> 00:38:36,279 Speaker 2: of the most frustrating things about the Seattle trip was 752 00:38:36,280 --> 00:38:38,480 Speaker 2: the Seattle Times had a big article about you know 753 00:38:38,520 --> 00:38:41,279 Speaker 2: what's in front for the Seahawks, Right, they're seven six 754 00:38:41,360 --> 00:38:43,799 Speaker 2: and two, they're in first place, and they named two 755 00:38:43,800 --> 00:38:46,040 Speaker 2: games against the Rams. They named the rematch against the 756 00:38:46,040 --> 00:38:48,200 Speaker 2: forty nine ers. Here come the seven and two Colts, 757 00:38:48,239 --> 00:38:50,360 Speaker 2: And you know, so I'm looking over this article in 758 00:38:50,400 --> 00:38:52,560 Speaker 2: Seattle and I'm like, now, wait a minute. No mention 759 00:38:52,640 --> 00:38:56,080 Speaker 2: to the next game, the next opponent. So that's that's 760 00:38:56,120 --> 00:38:59,160 Speaker 2: the challenge for the Cardinals the whole you know, Walter White, 761 00:38:59,280 --> 00:39:02,240 Speaker 2: say my name, let's spring it full circle here, because 762 00:39:02,239 --> 00:39:04,760 Speaker 2: I don't know when you'll be able to experience it again. 763 00:39:04,880 --> 00:39:08,359 Speaker 1: But the weather in Seattle was outstanding for you, Paul. 764 00:39:08,440 --> 00:39:10,600 Speaker 1: Hopefully you are able to soak that in because my 765 00:39:10,719 --> 00:39:14,960 Speaker 1: guess is next season it's gonna be a torrential downpour. 766 00:39:15,120 --> 00:39:17,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, there's no way two years in a row. I mean, 767 00:39:17,080 --> 00:39:18,960 Speaker 2: actually it took twenty years to have a sunny day 768 00:39:19,800 --> 00:39:22,680 Speaker 2: in Seattle. There's still no Starbucks on the sideline though, 769 00:39:22,719 --> 00:39:24,800 Speaker 2: see that I was wrong in that prediction about fifteen 770 00:39:24,840 --> 00:39:26,359 Speaker 2: years ago. I said it's just a matter of time 771 00:39:26,400 --> 00:39:29,319 Speaker 2: before they actually put another Starbucks location, this time on 772 00:39:29,360 --> 00:39:33,520 Speaker 2: the sideline. But yeah, that building. Once again, they're not 773 00:39:33,560 --> 00:39:36,359 Speaker 2: playoff ready yet. The twelves are just not playoff ready yet. 774 00:39:36,400 --> 00:39:38,040 Speaker 2: The team is the fans are not. 775 00:39:38,360 --> 00:39:42,439 Speaker 1: A Cardinals three and six. The Seahawks, yeah, they are 776 00:39:43,040 --> 00:39:45,719 Speaker 1: seven and two. After beating the Cardinals forty four to 777 00:39:45,960 --> 00:39:48,080 Speaker 1: twenty two. We will do our best to put that 778 00:39:48,160 --> 00:39:51,239 Speaker 1: game as far as way as possible in that rear 779 00:39:51,320 --> 00:39:54,120 Speaker 1: view mirror, begin to turn our attention to the San 780 00:39:54,120 --> 00:39:57,120 Speaker 1: Francisco forty nine ers in the days to come before 781 00:39:57,600 --> 00:40:00,239 Speaker 1: week eleven, And on that note, we will put a 782 00:40:00,320 --> 00:40:03,080 Speaker 1: lid on this edition of Cardinals Cover two presented by Hyundai, 783 00:40:03,160 --> 00:40:06,160 Speaker 1: proud partner of the Arizona Cardinals. As always, special thanks 784 00:40:06,200 --> 00:40:09,360 Speaker 1: to our executive producer jim On Mahundra, our associate producer 785 00:40:09,400 --> 00:40:12,319 Speaker 1: Cody Fincher. From Paul Calvic, I'm quig raal Lou. We'll 786 00:40:12,360 --> 00:40:14,480 Speaker 1: talk to you next time here on Cardinals Cover two