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Speaker 1: we fucking made it. Another episode of motherfucking horrible fucking Decisions. Yes,
Speaker 1: that's how the funk I feel, because great fucking Monday
Speaker 1: getting here. I'm over this fucking remote record. We were
Speaker 1: supposed to be recording and done over two hours ago.
Speaker 1: God dammit, everything that can go wrong has gone wrong today.
Speaker 1: What is going on? What fucking other podcast out there
Speaker 1: is putting in the university? Is sucking esoteric bitches at home?
Speaker 1: They don't know what to do. They just google and ship.
Speaker 1: How here you go? While you over here, motherfucking sag
Speaker 1: and get the get those bed spirits out your life.
Speaker 1: God damnit in my life this whole time. This is
Speaker 1: a this is a horrible Decisionship. I'm gonna smoke some
Speaker 1: weed and some hollow Oh goodness. Anyway, guys, welcome again
Speaker 1: to another episode of Horrible Decisions. Did's your girl? Mandy
Speaker 1: be Ak stand ak bitch a k A Mandy Baskins,
Speaker 1: bitch Mandy Baskins. Um, what's up? Paulo? Santo? Home? And
Speaker 1: I'm high. There's only been three episodes to date where
Speaker 1: I've been high if you count adderall, maybe five, But
Speaker 1: as far as we'd just three and today's number number
Speaker 1: O trace number. I'm I'm doing this for Carman. What
Speaker 1: the fun? What I'm saying? So, guys, I'm excited today
Speaker 1: because we have another couple joining us. And so if
Speaker 1: you are in quarantine and you are getting dick or pussy,
Speaker 1: you know, good for fucking you. Um, this episode is
Speaker 1: for your ass. It ain't for me, but it's for
Speaker 1: y'all dick and out there fucking. So we have a
Speaker 1: couple who is not only going to talk about where
Speaker 1: they are in the lifestyle because they are a part
Speaker 1: of the lifestyle. We are also going to talk about
Speaker 1: how to keep things spicy during quarantine, and we is
Speaker 1: gonna talk about how the hose was present with me
Speaker 1: during the virtual orgy and how that kept them excited.
Speaker 1: So can you guys go ahead? We do awful of
Speaker 1: introducing our guests. I thought that was good enough. Y'all
Speaker 1: are a couple, but our audience know your name and
Speaker 1: what you guys do because you guys also have a podcast,
Speaker 1: So can you tell our audience who you are? Um, So,
Speaker 1: my name is Carmen and my name is Aidian and
Speaker 1: we're the Bull and Bunny Podcast. How y'all start a podcast?
Speaker 1: Is this how it goes? Pret it's been a year.
Speaker 1: So we actually what like two years ago when you
Speaker 1: guys did your first live show, that's when we so
Speaker 1: we restarted our podcast last year when you guys did
Speaker 1: your first live show, we had just been doing it
Speaker 1: for a few months, and then we stopped for like
Speaker 1: a year, I think, and then we came back we
Speaker 1: started last year. Well, to have it for a year
Speaker 1: is a long time. And I only asked you that
Speaker 1: because Mandy and I still don't know what the fun
Speaker 1: we're gonna say every time we started. You know, we
Speaker 1: have the same problem. I'm gonna get some wrap tunes
Speaker 1: or whatever. At the end of the day, y'all, the
Speaker 1: show starts with yahho okay, and when the motherfucking start,
Speaker 1: got Jimmy and when you, I guess, do it? Mandy?
Speaker 1: Is that scratch? That's the scratch she gave you on
Speaker 1: your face? Yes, bitch, I told you almost killed the
Speaker 1: nig I was. It looked like I was clients here,
Speaker 1: so my cat jumped up at me while I was
Speaker 1: just like on the bed. Bitch, I was on live too.
Speaker 1: I didn't even see it, so bit he jumped up
Speaker 1: and his claw went like poke and bitch it just
Speaker 1: started bleeding. And then here I go. I called my
Speaker 1: mom because I'm like, I'm gonna kill him. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: kill the motherfucker. The cat is about to fucking die.
Speaker 1: So I called my mom and she's sucking laughing. She's
Speaker 1: like just the ploy pruss her. And then she gets
Speaker 1: real doctory on me and it's like, well, the head
Speaker 1: bleeds the most, and I'm just like what. I'm like,
Speaker 1: I'm like, no, my vagina bleeds the most. Cheek should
Speaker 1: not be pouring blood right now? Oh I get it,
Speaker 1: like I don't know it was just pouring blood. I
Speaker 1: was like, so, yeah, this is a scratch. And then
Speaker 1: I didn't want to put a band aid under it
Speaker 1: and look like fucking nelly. Bit it looks like a
Speaker 1: like you look like you killed somebody at least through
Speaker 1: this screen it do it look like a little tear
Speaker 1: drop and let me put a little I'm gonna do
Speaker 1: a little tattoo picture though. You can't be smiling now, Hard.
Speaker 1: First off, my smile lights up the room like here's mad. Hard,
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna lie. I used to think a duel,
Speaker 1: what a tear drop tattoo was so sexy until I
Speaker 1: realized it meant they like probably kill somebody kind of
Speaker 1: fire if it like you know what I'm saying, like
Speaker 1: a gang shootout. No, because you know, if he'll kill
Speaker 1: for money, he'll definitely kill for you, nigga, they're killing
Speaker 1: for money and pussy. It's probably just the money in
Speaker 1: the drug I eventually those are the top two reasons.
Speaker 1: Bitch money and no. The women kill for dick. There's
Speaker 1: a whole show about it. Women are killing for dick,
Speaker 1: men are killing for drugs the money first of all
Speaker 1: of like murders or men. I think it's like eighties, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean yes, that part. I'm talking about the snap
Speaker 1: bitches like they do it because in there for killing
Speaker 1: drugs ten percent, it's for some like weird schizophrenia ship
Speaker 1: and the rest of the percent. Because I don't do mathematics,
Speaker 1: you just did a hundred and twelve percent total. I
Speaker 1: don't know what type of circle that has no pie
Speaker 1: charts should see me. When a sale is going on
Speaker 1: in the store, they could say something basic like the
Speaker 1: dress could be a hundred bucks and twenty percent off,
Speaker 1: and I'm still like, okay, Well, can you add up?
Speaker 1: You're trying to get the final I'm out with text,
Speaker 1: that's what it is. That's your excuse. I'm gonna bitch
Speaker 1: starting me home. Anyways, we're gonna get this started because
Speaker 1: there's definitely a lot to get into. So once again,
Speaker 1: if you have a partner, this episode is definitely for you. Ship.
Speaker 1: Bitch this asid reflux. Ain't no motherfucker A bitch had
Speaker 1: Dominican coffee today. That's just strongest. I honestly would try
Speaker 1: to take over and let Mandy get her rest together,
Speaker 1: but I'm so fucking high right now. They're gonna think
Speaker 1: we're unprofessional. Get me. We're in a quarantine. I can't
Speaker 1: I doing my job, by nigga. Let me try to
Speaker 1: read this Vanilla's ship to be honest. Well, I don't
Speaker 1: look see no, you can't read it all. I'm a
Speaker 1: read because bitch, I have to make up for Patreon
Speaker 1: because they said I was reading in hieroglyphics. Bitch, I
Speaker 1: got on Patreon so drunk, I don't know what I
Speaker 1: was reading for the words out there, let me tell
Speaker 1: you how many times being said the word euphemism? How
Speaker 1: many syllables? She was like, she was like that you
Speaker 1: you it was it wasn't and you said that word.
Speaker 1: It was some bullshit. Anyways, we're gonna get it to
Speaker 1: our vanilla ship. As you guys know, vanilla ship involves
Speaker 1: sex in the news and of course, um without giving
Speaker 1: all of the shines to only fans. I found an
Speaker 1: article in the New York Times talking about how sex
Speaker 1: work has come home. More of us are making and
Speaker 1: watching sexual performances online now and fewer fewer of us
Speaker 1: are paying for it. This article actually touches on quite
Speaker 1: a few of the models on cam Soda who are
Speaker 1: seeing more viewers, but it's not necessarily translating into more coins. Um.
Speaker 1: It says that there has been a seventy increase in
Speaker 1: overall sign ups, which make about three point seven million
Speaker 1: just in the past months. How they're making more money?
Speaker 1: How to fund that? Math go? Because sixt so can Soda.
Speaker 1: You can you can watch, like they have ways to
Speaker 1: where you can watch, and you have to like donate
Speaker 1: for more, Like they won't necessarily let me see pussy,
Speaker 1: but you gotta give me ten more coins. But you
Speaker 1: have to give me coins in order to keep going,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? Um, And it says that
Speaker 1: the off um they create their own currency, so each
Speaker 1: token is worth five sets, so the model can take
Speaker 1: off an item in clothing, do a sexual act. I
Speaker 1: guess Niggas is just really on there, not trying to
Speaker 1: spend no money. Um. But it's also um something to
Speaker 1: know that over what thirty million people have applied for unemployment.
Speaker 1: So yes, you have, you know, women on only fans
Speaker 1: who are making money, but not the majority are making
Speaker 1: that much money because you have to realize people are
Speaker 1: still not getting checks every two weeks. Every week the
Speaker 1: tips they make a lot of people are out of jobs.
Speaker 1: This leads me to bring into other ways people are
Speaker 1: in Joe sex visually. So guys, I shared with you
Speaker 1: guys that I was the host. It was my first
Speaker 1: time hosting, So tell these holes if I did a
Speaker 1: good or bad job, I'll take critique. Um. But anyways,
Speaker 1: I hosted a virtual orgy and Carmen and Adien we're
Speaker 1: in there, and I was like, oh, bitch, I know
Speaker 1: y'all before. So in order to get the couples kind
Speaker 1: of relaxed, um, we started off with a game of
Speaker 1: truth or dare do you guys want to continue sharing
Speaker 1: what your experience was like what you guys were comfortable
Speaker 1: doing on camera, um, and kind of how it helped
Speaker 1: your sex life a little bit. Um. Yeah, we actually
Speaker 1: went to two sex orgies, so that one and another
Speaker 1: one so that one. By the way, I want, let's
Speaker 1: give a shout out to our past guest, Daniel saying.
Speaker 1: Daniel saying he is. We're actually going to have him
Speaker 1: on the podcast next week too, so awesome, so you
Speaker 1: guys will here. Um, I guess h definitely a really
Speaker 1: good go of an episode. But Dannil Saint is the
Speaker 1: founder of a sex club called n SFW and it's
Speaker 1: been called the premier place up to to have sex
Speaker 1: in New York, across the globe, people flying from everywhere,
Speaker 1: and basically he has a system where he can vet
Speaker 1: people out based on what they look like and start
Speaker 1: almost a page to where you have a community to
Speaker 1: where you can meet people before you even get to
Speaker 1: the sex club, which I think is great because stuff
Speaker 1: I wanted, Yeah, I wanted to wear warm up. I
Speaker 1: guess if you guys can not only share your experience,
Speaker 1: I want to get into of course, I'm going to
Speaker 1: ask you what you thought, how the people looked, what
Speaker 1: they did like, I want to get into that just
Speaker 1: a little bit. Um, so if you guys can please
Speaker 1: share your experience as a couple going onto a virtual orgy.
Speaker 1: So I feel like we were kind of against the
Speaker 1: idea to join virtual sex orgies because we've gone to
Speaker 1: like real orgies and real sex parties before. I wasn't
Speaker 1: really sure what to expect, and I'm honestly sick and
Speaker 1: tired of being on Zoom. Like I'm sorry, guys, because
Speaker 1: I know we're on Zoom right now. I've been in
Speaker 1: every day. So, UM, I didn't I did not want
Speaker 1: to do another virtual call, but UM, I was like,
Speaker 1: you know what, let's just try it out because we're in.
Speaker 1: We ran a What'sapp group What's Up group with like
Speaker 1: n s W. It was the first one that they started.
Speaker 1: Um they've had to start a new one since just
Speaker 1: because of security reasons. But we decided that like this
Speaker 1: one particular one because I had one. It was one
Speaker 1: of the competitions. Yeah, we had a free pass there.
Speaker 1: What's App groups for free passes, so it would be
Speaker 1: like today's post, you know, a sexy teasing pick, and
Speaker 1: then whoever had the sexiest pick would get a free
Speaker 1: pass to go to any of the parties. Oh night,
Speaker 1: So right, So you guys, So you guys got in again.
Speaker 1: Y'all were one of the first couples that even showed
Speaker 1: up on camera. There were a lot of couples that
Speaker 1: seemed a little shy in the beginning. Um, and so
Speaker 1: you guys got on and we played truth or Dare?
Speaker 1: Do you want to share? Y'all? Is ready? I like
Speaker 1: what you wanted to do? So no, because you called
Speaker 1: us on. Um, we were invited, and I was like,
Speaker 1: do we really want to go on? Do I really
Speaker 1: want everyone to see? Um? So we accepted it, and
Speaker 1: then you know, I got kinky real quick. But I
Speaker 1: mean I can't when I play truth or Dare, I
Speaker 1: have to say dare. Like I feel like I'm a
Speaker 1: pussy if I say truth, Like if I had just
Speaker 1: said it was super fun And as a host, I
Speaker 1: let you guys chose dare and the dare that I
Speaker 1: gave them this was like, mind you maybe an hour
Speaker 1: into the fucking sex orgy, so nothing was really popping off.
Speaker 1: The DJ was just you know, flogging his naked girlfriend. DJ.
Speaker 1: The DJ was lit, The setup was I was just
Speaker 1: like Nigga that's your house. So they chose there, and
Speaker 1: I told them to go into the kitchen and choose
Speaker 1: something out of their refrigerator to lick for the other person. Yep,
Speaker 1: I mean, I mean we just went classic with the
Speaker 1: whipped cream. I'm surprised there was even something like a
Speaker 1: bit we went classic. I'm saying, no, like, you know,
Speaker 1: there's other some people might grab some other ship. I
Speaker 1: don't know there's you know, I was just talking about that.
Speaker 1: I just moved in here, and I'm like, if I
Speaker 1: went at my refrigerator right now, what would I have
Speaker 1: to lick off of anybody? That's what I'm saying. What
Speaker 1: are you gonna so I have some chicken broth, some
Speaker 1: d ship? I got a bit damn skippy hole. Okay,
Speaker 1: so you know what's crazy. I don't keep my my
Speaker 1: my peanut butter in my frieze. You don't like it
Speaker 1: to be no revigerate after opening. Okay, No it doesn't
Speaker 1: say that. Hold, I'm about to read it. No, my
Speaker 1: almond butter does, but this one doesn't. I was about
Speaker 1: to say, I should be right in my cabinet hole.
Speaker 1: I got a little skippy um, so I mean I
Speaker 1: would put I really like blue cheese and sour cream.
Speaker 1: So it looks like I could. I could lick all
Speaker 1: some sour cream. Okay, I put sura cream. Put a
Speaker 1: little paper on that hole. Maybe kind I'm high, I
Speaker 1: noticed it, but I'm licking peanut butter. It looks like
Speaker 1: ship like you can just know she got shipped on
Speaker 1: her fingers and licked it before. That's why you want
Speaker 1: to talking about. You didn't seeing the dudo in the
Speaker 1: booty and the motherfucker diamond nails. I be a dudo
Speaker 1: in the booty. You don't want licking it off your
Speaker 1: finger right now. It's not someone's asshole. Let's start with that.
Speaker 1: I refrigerated it. Did you put it in someone's asshlough?
Speaker 1: Because that was the first thing you got when we
Speaker 1: were talking about licking something else and somebody? You want
Speaker 1: me he trying the trouble butter, what would you like?
Speaker 1: I want to people better? You know what that is.
Speaker 1: You're nasty, That's what I'm saying. You nasty. You'll be
Speaker 1: liking ship. It's okay, You'm douna two point oh she uh.
Speaker 1: But guys, I want to get back into because we've
Speaker 1: been getting so many questions about the virtual orgies, So, um,
Speaker 1: do you want to share a little bit of what
Speaker 1: the other couples did over the night, And of course
Speaker 1: we all loved what was her name? She just had
Speaker 1: the she's so cute. She was teething the whole she
Speaker 1: was teasing, like she would just like slow dance and
Speaker 1: then she got she had this bomb mass lingerie on
Speaker 1: and then she just like did a flirty laugh and
Speaker 1: would put her like nipples in the Did she have
Speaker 1: a guy that was there, yes, but he was playing
Speaker 1: video games, so she's like, I wonder. So I went
Speaker 1: to an orgy the next week and there was a
Speaker 1: girl with red hair who was like ship teasing the
Speaker 1: whole time. She So it was a couple's orgy, so
Speaker 1: there was no single people, so it was a little
Speaker 1: bit less, and it was really funny because me and
Speaker 1: old Bay were in there and at first we were
Speaker 1: getting into it right, but we started it because it
Speaker 1: started at nine pm Eastern, Yeah, which too early for
Speaker 1: an orgy, because when you've got people that are in
Speaker 1: specific time, what the fun. So I'm literally cleaning up dinner,
Speaker 1: there's fish on the table and I'm like just put
Speaker 1: it on, and there's some girl who's just rolling around
Speaker 1: or turning down, and this nig was like, what the
Speaker 1: funk they got going on? I'm like, oh no. So
Speaker 1: we get a little high and we're just watching the
Speaker 1: ship and I was trying to get horny. But it
Speaker 1: started to get funny because one couple was really about
Speaker 1: it and they just kept talking ship to the people
Speaker 1: that wouldn't get on camera on the screen getting sucked.
Speaker 1: She's like, wow, nobody, you guys right in And I
Speaker 1: was like, this is getting weirder and weird. So so
Speaker 1: share with our audience, Carmen and Adien your what you
Speaker 1: thought of it, what you saw, what you like, what
Speaker 1: you didn't like, what, what were your thoughts of the
Speaker 1: couple and would you do it again? So I think
Speaker 1: it was pretty cool. I mean that was so like
Speaker 1: Carmen said, that was our first one. Um, it was
Speaker 1: I like the setup of it. You know, there was
Speaker 1: only a few people on camera, so it made it
Speaker 1: where it wasn't too noisy, you know, the DJ four
Speaker 1: at a time the way they yeah it was it
Speaker 1: was for yeah, which is nice because we went so
Speaker 1: we can kind of compare it to the Zoom sex
Speaker 1: party we went to later that night. Where there was
Speaker 1: like thirty people in there and everybody's talking. It's mad loud,
Speaker 1: like you can't really oh yeah, that's yeah. No, it's
Speaker 1: not the same. In Plus, the Zoom party, everybody was
Speaker 1: kind of just sitting there talking. Nobody was really fucking
Speaker 1: versus the party that the nsf W party, everybody was
Speaker 1: kind of even if they were shy, they were at
Speaker 1: least doing some stuff, you know what I mean, Like
Speaker 1: they were ye like we get loose. Yeah, we saw oral.
Speaker 1: We saw someone do a wax wax play. Um. The
Speaker 1: cute girl ended up doing the nipple clamps. She had
Speaker 1: whole like fucking contraption on her nipples. Um. The stripper.
Speaker 1: There was a stripper that came on. She was phenomenal.
Speaker 1: I mean a little glitchya looked a little pixel lated,
Speaker 1: but the stripper was dope. Um to jerk off guy,
Speaker 1: he was super shy, and I dared him to jack
Speaker 1: off and like talk to us while he jacked off. Um,
Speaker 1: and so yeah I did. I did that. And then
Speaker 1: another guy, you know, he was he was going hard
Speaker 1: and then he was kind of awkward though, because I'm
Speaker 1: sitting there and I'm like, like, you're on the screen.
Speaker 1: Because I don't want to, so just to let you
Speaker 1: guys know what it looks like. So like with Zoom,
Speaker 1: if you've been to a larger Zoom party or Zoom
Speaker 1: conference call, you probably see twenty screens and you can
Speaker 1: flip flat back and forth through the pages. So much
Speaker 1: like if you're watching this on YouTube right now, it's
Speaker 1: just you and those other screens, so you really see
Speaker 1: they see you, and you see them, and you're like, okay,
Speaker 1: and everybody else that's in there is what like, there's
Speaker 1: twenty other people that are sitting in here watching you
Speaker 1: guys too, So I'm sitting there. She jerked, she dared
Speaker 1: him to jerk off, and I'm like, oh yeah, camera, yeah,
Speaker 1: that's right. So up the four it was him, you guys,
Speaker 1: me and the DJ, and the DJ's music just turned down.
Speaker 1: Um and yeah, he just started just started stroking. Then
Speaker 1: we had the other guy, we um, I had him
Speaker 1: stripped tease. He was super shy, but he was super
Speaker 1: into it. Girl. He started hitting my phone up in
Speaker 1: the nff W chat after I was like, whoa, all right,
Speaker 1: glad you glad you felt free there? But whoa there
Speaker 1: it's said from nine to eleven and I upped and
Speaker 1: that was it. He was like, you made me feel
Speaker 1: so comfortable. I was like, okay, now when I was
Speaker 1: in the other origin. So the week after, the host
Speaker 1: was like really getting it in, like showing pussy, like
Speaker 1: doing mad ship. Right. So we're sitting there and I'm
Speaker 1: looking over. I said, you know, me hosted this last week,
Speaker 1: and I really want to know what so so, did
Speaker 1: I do a good job hosting the sex party? Guys?
Speaker 1: I mean we've never so we've only been to sex
Speaker 1: parties like in person. You know, it's hard to host
Speaker 1: something like this online because you're just you're dealing with
Speaker 1: It was so hard. I ain't even gonna hold you.
Speaker 1: I was like, I'm tired. I killed a whole bottle
Speaker 1: of wine. I had to like entertain and keep daring
Speaker 1: people and okay, who's coming on next? And it was
Speaker 1: it was definitely a lot of one to keep everyone it.
Speaker 1: I was like, likee I give you a break, Well,
Speaker 1: let me get off screen. It was it was long, um,
Speaker 1: but no, it was exciting. I guess before we get
Speaker 1: into our hor derv, is this something that you suggest.
Speaker 1: I know, I know we all are fed up with zoom,
Speaker 1: but do you think that it was exciting for you
Speaker 1: guys to try this virtual orgy, or or how did
Speaker 1: it affect your relationship and sex? I don't I don't know.
Speaker 1: Maybe you could speak differently on this, but I don't
Speaker 1: feel like it changed anything for us sexually because we
Speaker 1: were already kind of just like open um. But I
Speaker 1: can see if you're new, and we did an episode
Speaker 1: about this, but like, if you're new to the lifestyle,
Speaker 1: you've never been to a party, I feel like a
Speaker 1: virtual sex party can actually be a good start because
Speaker 1: sometimes sex parties it could be a lot, and if
Speaker 1: you're someone who gets intimidated in that situation, you might
Speaker 1: want to retract. And it's already hard because like, let's
Speaker 1: let you drove like two or three hours to get
Speaker 1: to this party. You're not gonna drive two three hours
Speaker 1: after you just got there to go home because you
Speaker 1: feel uncomfortable. So at least on a virtual party, you
Speaker 1: have the option to go in and go out as
Speaker 1: you please, which is a nice, nice thing. Literally. I
Speaker 1: think the other thing part about it too, is the
Speaker 1: voyeuristic part of it. Like in a real sex party,
Speaker 1: you know you're there, you could be looking, but you
Speaker 1: see people looking at you looking, and so that can
Speaker 1: feel uncomfortable because you feel like a creep. You're not
Speaker 1: sure what you're supposed be doing, and you can get
Speaker 1: some uncomfortability there. But I'll be honest, I don't think
Speaker 1: a orgy is crazy exciting virtually for people who have
Speaker 1: already done orgies, but assuming that the most of you
Speaker 1: may have not, I would definitely look into NSFW. The
Speaker 1: tickets are like moderately priced um at ship. At this rate,
Speaker 1: the way I'm talking about tickets, I really feel like
Speaker 1: we don't have the I'm not gonna lie just even
Speaker 1: the production it was a lot, Well you gotta pay,
Speaker 1: Like I don't want a DJ because I feel like
Speaker 1: that's weird because DJ the DJ don't I saw it too.
Speaker 1: But at the same time, like I mean, if you
Speaker 1: guys are trying to start your own I got an
Speaker 1: idea for a different way to do this that I've
Speaker 1: been dying to, like try it out, but we could
Speaker 1: talk later because hear me out right, if the DJ
Speaker 1: is on and then you got somebody dancing and he's
Speaker 1: on a one to one too, but she hears it
Speaker 1: one second delay and she on a three four five.
Speaker 1: Oh that's why that's why we ain't listening to hip
Speaker 1: hop where you gotta be on beata. He was playing
Speaker 1: some other type of white people ship ship right yo,
Speaker 1: ships where there is no beat. I felt like I
Speaker 1: should have been on like doing shrooms or something, and
Speaker 1: I've never even done anything else besides smoke. But it
Speaker 1: didn't sound like this here we go. No, it actually no, No,
Speaker 1: that's like porn music, not too porny. No, it was
Speaker 1: like more housey space vibe let. It was. It was
Speaker 1: like the type of music where you don't know when
Speaker 1: it starts and when it ends, but it's like you know,
Speaker 1: at some point he changed the song. It's just like
Speaker 1: it all sound even when the song change. But also
Speaker 1: you can still fun to it. So it was. It
Speaker 1: was cute. It was cute. It was cute. Well, I
Speaker 1: like what you said, Um, I agree. I think that.
Speaker 1: Of course, with this podcast, a lot of people have
Speaker 1: thoughts of going to sex founding and like if transform
Speaker 1: um who did I know that, Like a lot of
Speaker 1: people definitely wanted to get into um sex clubs, orgies
Speaker 1: group sex um. So again, I definitely recommend this UM.
Speaker 1: But anyways, we're gonna get God damn this fun ship
Speaker 1: a bitch is burning. Well, we're going to get into
Speaker 1: the Horror Derve. If you guys have never heard our show,
Speaker 1: the Horror of Derve is an awesome segment and it
Speaker 1: is about all the sex tips we can give you.
Speaker 1: And here is the one for this week. So trying
Speaker 1: kneeling beside your partner during oral instead of in front
Speaker 1: of them. If you typically kneel in front of someone
Speaker 1: during a blowjob, try and kneeling beside them. Not only
Speaker 1: will this give you give them a great view of
Speaker 1: your ass, but you also might it more comfortable and
Speaker 1: easy for you to stimulate your kids clip while giving
Speaker 1: it all. Now, I've given this tip all of the
Speaker 1: time in reverse as far as men eating pussy from
Speaker 1: the side because the lips match lips. Oh, you have
Speaker 1: given this as a sex tip I get everywhere because
Speaker 1: I feel like it's really really helpful, and like we
Speaker 1: just keep the monotony so much with certain things like oral.
Speaker 1: I think we think the way to change it up.
Speaker 1: At sixty nine, do you guys have a sex tip
Speaker 1: for us? Oh? Um, off the top of my head
Speaker 1: could be solo. Just whoever comes out with it first.
Speaker 1: Boat Off the top of my head. I was just
Speaker 1: gonna say, buy something and try, like whether that's a
Speaker 1: toy or restraint anything like that, Like just something because
Speaker 1: it's it's gonna make you do something different, especially the
Speaker 1: longer in a relationship and you want to find a
Speaker 1: way to switch it up a little bit and just
Speaker 1: regular sex might not just cut it. So what's what's
Speaker 1: the last thing you guys brought together? Quick? Okay, I
Speaker 1: don't really know how to explain it. I said, it's
Speaker 1: like a restraint. It's probably a restraint. It's the best
Speaker 1: way to put it. So, um he puts it like
Speaker 1: on my chest and then it holds my arms in
Speaker 1: place and my legs in place. I feel like, now, oh,
Speaker 1: I see oh ship. So it's actually it's kind at
Speaker 1: some bondage type of ship. Yeah. So it basically her legs,
Speaker 1: like from her thighs get strapped up to her arms
Speaker 1: or and then you can get those big can those
Speaker 1: fit um big die hose like me because my dad's
Speaker 1: don't be wanting to fit in no gardens. And none
Speaker 1: of that is adjustable, bro, Yeah it's adjustable. Doesn't say
Speaker 1: big die adjustable like good for big dies. Conferences three
Speaker 1: inches on circumference for the thought. Hell, no, my thighs
Speaker 1: like the same size of my waist. It's circumforts like yeah,
Speaker 1: but I know my waist is like aund about right,
Speaker 1: but my waist and I think my thigh is the
Speaker 1: same as my waist. I got it halfway halfway down. Okay,
Speaker 1: all right, Well I'm gonna have to put them holes
Speaker 1: around my ankles. Ankles, so you you tied each other up.
Speaker 1: I guess too. This was a question I was gonna
Speaker 1: ask in the horrible decision when we get into it.
Speaker 1: But um, since we're talking about it now, for vanilla couples,
Speaker 1: I hate to label them that way, but couples who
Speaker 1: may not be in the life started couples, what would
Speaker 1: you suggest for a couple who is just now trying
Speaker 1: to introduce things into the bedroom, what thing would you
Speaker 1: suggest them to buy? First? Um, so I would say
Speaker 1: this kind of sounds intense. But the wax, um, it's
Speaker 1: it turns into massage oil. So it's a candle. You
Speaker 1: light it, it turns into massage oil, and then um,
Speaker 1: you can pour it on the body. And I like
Speaker 1: the warmth. It's not too hot like candle wax. Like
Speaker 1: your point candle wax onto you. But it's nice because
Speaker 1: then you could um use that to kind of like
Speaker 1: stimulate your partner and a full body massage like one
Speaker 1: I want to. I think hot wax is actually so
Speaker 1: far down. I'm shocked you said that. Really, what would say?
Speaker 1: You think? You think that that's too that's too intense.
Speaker 1: Do you think it needs to be something more vanilla? Yes,
Speaker 1: But I also think that the suggestion is really different.
Speaker 1: Like I feel like people have heard this ship all
Speaker 1: the time. I would say like super small, like blindfolding,
Speaker 1: which sounds basic, but to lose sight is very intense
Speaker 1: during sex. Um, I would say basic thing would be
Speaker 1: like the tape to tape around your wrists like hand
Speaker 1: or hand for the same time, if we're if we're
Speaker 1: doing like real vanilla ship, I would say like a
Speaker 1: clip stimulators and that I was gonna go there. Um.
Speaker 1: The first person that brought sex toys into the bedroom
Speaker 1: with me, we went to the sex store together and
Speaker 1: he bought the wand so he was really trying super
Speaker 1: hard to make me squirt and I guess he saw
Speaker 1: it in a porn this fucking and this was it
Speaker 1: was like yeah, and this is when it plugged into
Speaker 1: the wall because this is about two thousand, like eight
Speaker 1: two nine. So I plugged in the wall, but it
Speaker 1: had a big old like mushroom tip and it just vibrated. Like,
Speaker 1: what's the problem? I was eighteen puss all ship Anyway,
Speaker 1: I've grown up my ship charges now, Okay, it doesn't
Speaker 1: need to be you haven't grown up technology that too. Um. Anyways,
Speaker 1: we're gonna go ahead and now get into our whole facts.
Speaker 1: I do like again, if you guys have any tips
Speaker 1: on what you brought into the bedroom with your partner, first,
Speaker 1: please share it with us. UM tweet us hashtag horrible
Speaker 1: decisions on Twitter, right it under the comments when we
Speaker 1: post the cover art for this episode. Um, and yeah, like,
Speaker 1: let's just, you know, share what we bring into the
Speaker 1: guy damn bedroom. So speaking of vibrators, it leads us
Speaker 1: into our hole facts. I found this completely interesting and
Speaker 1: Carmen let me know, or Wheezy let me know if
Speaker 1: you knew this. Vibrators were actually created for crazy women.
Speaker 1: Have actually talked about this before? Did we? This is
Speaker 1: this is now? I think we said we were gonna
Speaker 1: talk this is I'm sorry, have we all heard this before? No?
Speaker 1: We have not like so back in the day vibrators
Speaker 1: when they were first introduced, it was because obviously female
Speaker 1: orgasm is so fucking foreign to anybody that they found
Speaker 1: it to be the way of release. And there was
Speaker 1: a psychologist that did it. Doctors. Um, I mean I
Speaker 1: think at one point I was reading something about like
Speaker 1: and this could be just like some bullshit, but it
Speaker 1: was noticed hysteria, right, So this woman went in there.
Speaker 1: There's movies about it. But this woman went in there
Speaker 1: apparently so many times within the day they had like
Speaker 1: banned her and like called her like a crazy person
Speaker 1: and wanted to like lock her up because she wanted
Speaker 1: to come that much like this is Japparently we've talked
Speaker 1: about nymphomania, which is why they thought women who wanted
Speaker 1: to have sex needed to go into the craziest side. Well,
Speaker 1: like right, the hysteria that so, hysteria is the cause,
Speaker 1: they were saying, along with anxiety and you know, irritability
Speaker 1: and nervous is and they would umbrella that as the
Speaker 1: term for women that needed to fucking come. Um. But also,
Speaker 1: by the way, hysteria is um uterus and Greek for real. No, bro,
Speaker 1: we ain't talked about this because I ain't know that, Like,
Speaker 1: but she didn't have a break podcast now is like
Speaker 1: no in real life, Like I feel like that's one
Speaker 1: of those little things. Like we've been doing this podcast
Speaker 1: for three years now, and I know that that would
Speaker 1: have been something I was just throwing out at the
Speaker 1: bar when I'm drunk, Like I totally would have remembered
Speaker 1: something like that. So now, bro, we ain't talked about
Speaker 1: this ship because I would have remember, I probably didn't
Speaker 1: drop the Greek thing. But Michelle Hope, I think, is
Speaker 1: the one who first may have talked about that with
Speaker 1: us when she brought out all the sex toys and
Speaker 1: ship like that. Oh she did bring them up, that's right. Okay,
Speaker 1: And I got my child. I'm so high I can't
Speaker 1: even think of my last name, but that somehow when
Speaker 1: I was like, oh I remember that thing. I don't
Speaker 1: know how you remember anything got damn. But I'm just
Speaker 1: I'm like trying to find a way to set good
Speaker 1: to the next motherfucking Anyways, we're gonna get into the
Speaker 1: horrible decision this one Wheezy can share as someone with
Speaker 1: a boyfriend. You guys, congratulations, are are now married or engaged? Okay?
Speaker 1: Same ship. So yes, congrats, I'm super excited. So for
Speaker 1: this week's horrible decision, I wanted to talk about outside
Speaker 1: now of the virtual orgies, because we discussed it already.
Speaker 1: I wanted to talk about keeping it spicy during quarantine,
Speaker 1: being a part of the lifestyle, and how you are able,
Speaker 1: I asked, wheezy and um, you know without being able
Speaker 1: to add thirds or fourths or couples, how you're going
Speaker 1: with that or if you have a couple. Um? And also,
Speaker 1: like I said, just for people who are now bitch
Speaker 1: up under each other all the motherfucking time, how you
Speaker 1: guys don't get sick of each other? So well? Started first, Um,
Speaker 1: can you let our listeners know where you guys feel
Speaker 1: you fall into the lifestyle? So are you swingers? Polly open? What?
Speaker 1: Why are you laughing? Bro? Was that I can't ask.
Speaker 1: I just always laugh at the lifestyle because it sounds
Speaker 1: like a cult, dude, And every time someone tells me
Speaker 1: they're in the lifestyle, I'm like, oh my god, these
Speaker 1: are fucking freaks. Mona. We just tell you. I've eaten
Speaker 1: cream pies out of bitches, And I still think when
Speaker 1: someone tells me they're in the lifestyle, and like they
Speaker 1: are sick. You're in a lifestyle if you want a
Speaker 1: picket fence and a husband with a kid and a dog,
Speaker 1: that's like a real Basically, I wish we could just
Speaker 1: find another like word except for like I'm going to
Speaker 1: a lifestyle party. That's so like for us, we don't
Speaker 1: really like the words swingers. So we tell people that
Speaker 1: our relationship is emotionally monogamous, sexually open. So emotionally it's
Speaker 1: just us and sexually you know, so many it's better
Speaker 1: than saying swingers because swinger has such a like weird
Speaker 1: connotation with it. When people hear the word swinger, they're like,
Speaker 1: they look at you dirty swingers. Also, if we think
Speaker 1: about it, I mean the actual by definition is couple swapping.
Speaker 1: And I think that's what a lot of people don't
Speaker 1: like when they're polyamorous. They're like, oh, you're swingers, Like
Speaker 1: they hate to be under that term because that's just
Speaker 1: truth be told. What we all assume. We know, that's
Speaker 1: the blanket statement for you know, being sexually virtuous as
Speaker 1: a couple. So you're emotionally monogamous, sexually open, and so
Speaker 1: what have you guys done? You shared that you've been
Speaker 1: to sex clause before, have you guys done couple swaps
Speaker 1: or and brought in thirds to your bedroom? Like? To
Speaker 1: what extent are you guys? Um? I'm trying to say
Speaker 1: another word instead of life. What's O? What's our experience?
Speaker 1: So we've done soft swap, which is usually usually just oral. Um,
Speaker 1: We've done a full swap, which is like both partners switch.
Speaker 1: We've brought in um girls. We've tried to bring in
Speaker 1: a single guy a few times, but I just I
Speaker 1: wasn't vibing with them, so we kind of just stopped it.
Speaker 1: Now we got to talk about it. You letting so,
Speaker 1: so are you allowing her to pick the men that
Speaker 1: you bring into the bedroom? Like how did that conversation happen?
Speaker 1: So we get so many questions about women trying to
Speaker 1: figure out how to have a threesome with a woman,
Speaker 1: But I guess, Adien, I want to know what that
Speaker 1: conversation is like for you and Carmen. How you brought
Speaker 1: up that you wanted to bring a guy into the
Speaker 1: bedroom or Carmen first already? So all right, So I
Speaker 1: think to get there we should probably go back to
Speaker 1: how we even got into lifestyle in the first place,
Speaker 1: which is all hurtful if you want my fault, like
Speaker 1: it's a bad thing. Was not complaining, well you want
Speaker 1: to tell them, but just basically, one night we're fucking,
Speaker 1: we had just smoked, were drinking whatever, and she's telling
Speaker 1: me how she wants to have a threesome we one
Speaker 1: of her friends, and I'm like, okay, cool. Next day
Speaker 1: I wake up, I'm like, I'm like, you know, you
Speaker 1: were so funked up last night, like you said you
Speaker 1: wanted to suck your friend blah blah, and I'm laughing
Speaker 1: about it. She's like, oh, yeah, I know. So I'm like, oh, okay,
Speaker 1: Like let's figure this out. Um. Fast forward that we
Speaker 1: started looking stuff up. We found out about the lifestyle,
Speaker 1: We went to a few parties whatever, and the idea
Speaker 1: of bringing into that or not necessarily bringing in another man,
Speaker 1: but just swapping, you know, even that came up and
Speaker 1: obviously I gotta share her with somebody. The idea of
Speaker 1: bringing in another girl, that's no problem, is easy. I
Speaker 1: don't gotta really think much about it, but sharing her
Speaker 1: with another man is different. So we had our first
Speaker 1: swap experience. That was cool. The couple we knew for
Speaker 1: a while, so we had a lot of comfort build
Speaker 1: around it. There's a lot of respect there, and I
Speaker 1: think that's one of the biggest things with bringing in
Speaker 1: another guy for me at there has to be a
Speaker 1: lot of respect there, Like you gotta respect me, you
Speaker 1: gotta respect her, and I gotta be able to respect
Speaker 1: you because I'm letting you have something that's like, you know,
Speaker 1: this is my queen at the end of the day.
Speaker 1: So for that reason, you know, we tried a couple
Speaker 1: of times with one person, two people, whatever, but it
Speaker 1: just didn't work out because of how she felt and
Speaker 1: at the end of the day, I mean, that's the
Speaker 1: most important thing. So if it doesn't, if she doesn't
Speaker 1: feel right, then what's your ideal um scenario for male
Speaker 1: male female threesome? Because I know we see fantasies all
Speaker 1: the time in port and play out where it's like
Speaker 1: friends and it happens, or it's just two guys in
Speaker 1: a bar, like being that you do it with your fiance.
Speaker 1: What would be like the best case for you on
Speaker 1: vacation because I feel like I'm already relaxed and it
Speaker 1: would be somebody that somebody tall because I have a
Speaker 1: hype requirement. I'm five six I feel like I'm so
Speaker 1: tall for a girl, so I need someone who's at
Speaker 1: least like five eleven or taller. Okay, no, less um,
Speaker 1: And I mean really it could happen, Like we could
Speaker 1: be at a bar, we could be on a cruise
Speaker 1: and we could meet someone and we could just hit
Speaker 1: it off. Maybe like you flirting with a guy and
Speaker 1: you come and tell your fiance and you bring it back,
Speaker 1: or you guys are like kicking the ship at the
Speaker 1: bar and they're like, oh, he's cool. I feel like
Speaker 1: I would flirt first. I don't think that couples approaching
Speaker 1: a guy is actually really a good idea. I feel
Speaker 1: like it's intimidating, like work girl, Yeah, it's hell intimidation.
Speaker 1: Don't agree, you know? So I'd rather be the one
Speaker 1: to flirt and then um introduce them to each other,
Speaker 1: be like, hey, I'd have already told him, like he
Speaker 1: would have already known from the bat that I was
Speaker 1: going to go talk to this guy, because I would
Speaker 1: just walk up to him and if he was cool
Speaker 1: and I was cool and he was cool, then we
Speaker 1: go back and get it popping. Um, have you guys
Speaker 1: used dating apps at all to meet thirds? And how
Speaker 1: has that worked for you guys. So, um, I'm on
Speaker 1: Tinder and I'm on Bumble, and I just feel like
Speaker 1: there's a lot of girls on there that say that
Speaker 1: they're not looking for a threesome. Um. I've never actually
Speaker 1: looked for a guy because I just don't really feel
Speaker 1: like the type of guy that I'm looking for is
Speaker 1: on there. Um, but it definitely sucks like trying to
Speaker 1: find girls on those apps. I wouldn't suggest it because
Speaker 1: most of them put in their bio like not looking
Speaker 1: to be your unicorn, and I'm like, yeah, I'm not
Speaker 1: even trying to have you be unicorn, Like they just
Speaker 1: think we're gonna jump into everything that what was You
Speaker 1: didn't have that experience though, right weezy, like you were
Speaker 1: able to find thirds fairly easy on there. I feel bad,
Speaker 1: but I am curious to know what do you mean
Speaker 1: You're not trying to get them to be your unicorn
Speaker 1: if you're swapping girls how um, So I feel like
Speaker 1: you're defining, you know, like in a relationship way, because
Speaker 1: I think some girls kind of take it like we're
Speaker 1: trying to be Polly or trying to bring them in
Speaker 1: and just like straight, I think I think unicorn is
Speaker 1: a one night thing too. Though, to be honest with you,
Speaker 1: I don't think unicorn because if it is a unicorn,
Speaker 1: it's like we know that it's someone that will have
Speaker 1: sex with a couple. But in a Polly term, I
Speaker 1: feel like you would it would read I'm we're looking
Speaker 1: for a girlfriend. No I think unicorn. No, I agree,
Speaker 1: But some girls I think they think that. I feel
Speaker 1: like there's categories, Like there's different types of girls for
Speaker 1: different things. There's the girls are gonna sleep with one
Speaker 1: night stand. That's a unicorn, you know, like she's down
Speaker 1: to funk, she doesn't give a funk. But then there's
Speaker 1: girls that I'm willing to have a friendship and like
Speaker 1: we're either just hanging out Vanilitia or we can play
Speaker 1: and it's cool. But everyone's cool, you know when you're
Speaker 1: probably around our life a little bit longer. The third
Speaker 1: category is that I'm considering Polly um, which we've talked about,
Speaker 1: like having a girlfriend um that we share and I
Speaker 1: feel like, then you're that person. You know, I have
Speaker 1: actual love for you and he has love for you.
Speaker 1: So it would you would bring it in three categories? Yeah, Um,
Speaker 1: I want to know um getting back especially into the
Speaker 1: fact that now maybe a third isn't an option right now.
Speaker 1: How you guys are not getting sick of each other
Speaker 1: um during quarantine And how if you guys are having
Speaker 1: more sex less sex if you find sex being boring? Um,
Speaker 1: how has it affected the sex life? So I don't
Speaker 1: have to go into the office, but he does. But
Speaker 1: he's home this week, Like he spent this week home
Speaker 1: and I'm distracted, is what I told somebody, Like he
Speaker 1: um when he does go into the office. He actually
Speaker 1: came home one day and surprised me and fucked me
Speaker 1: and then went back to work like nothing happened. Break.
Speaker 1: But I feel like it keeps it interesting though, because
Speaker 1: I'm not expecting to get some dick in the middle
Speaker 1: of the day if he's not the first like dick
Speaker 1: surprise like that too. What day of the week was that?
Speaker 1: But what was this was having a couple of tones
Speaker 1: like on a Monday on a Wednesday, you know that,
Speaker 1: like I'm going to help you get through the middle
Speaker 1: of the week something to live forward to. Mine was
Speaker 1: weird because I didn't expect it to have it either,
Speaker 1: but it was like a Saturday, So I don't know
Speaker 1: what the funk we were doing we try to read,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean during the week, like try
Speaker 1: to just do things in the same space without talking.
Speaker 1: And I actually really enjoy that because sometimes you always
Speaker 1: feel like when you're around someone you have to fill
Speaker 1: in that dead air and you don't like we can
Speaker 1: be hours together doing other ship working or something creatively
Speaker 1: learning a language and do not speak. It's weird. But anyway,
Speaker 1: So I'm walking about to clean, go ahead, what oh no, no,
Speaker 1: no that. So I was about to clean and I
Speaker 1: was like, where's the whatever I was looking for right
Speaker 1: like the soap or whatever. He's like, you're not about
Speaker 1: to do that right now? And I was like why
Speaker 1: and he's like, because I need to come, and you're
Speaker 1: gonna make me come. I was like, excuse, you know,
Speaker 1: I am a little feminist here. I was like, nigga,
Speaker 1: shut up and he dead asked, fucking grabbed me by
Speaker 1: my fucking dress, put me on the floor, pulled his
Speaker 1: dick out and put it in my mouth. Bitch. I
Speaker 1: came before they were because you know, it's really disper backful,
Speaker 1: but I felt like it was okay to be disrespected
Speaker 1: at that time, you know, was the weekend I didn't
Speaker 1: have anything to do. I wasn't scheduled for anything, and
Speaker 1: I was about to clean and I hate dishes anyway,
Speaker 1: hate them. So why don't you look it? I'm over here, like, oh,
Speaker 1: let me share about how I disrespected my own pussy
Speaker 1: fucking lowly over here. Fuck damn, I'm over You're getting
Speaker 1: moist talking to you, guys. Um, I'm voised over here. Um,
Speaker 1: old lady moist, shut up, bitch, shut up. I'm about
Speaker 1: to be thirty. Okay, this ship about to blow powders soon.
Speaker 1: Let me let me live, Let me live. Um. So
Speaker 1: I wanted to ask you, I guess one more question
Speaker 1: because it seems like you guys have been fairly open
Speaker 1: with you know, Carmen what you want to bring into
Speaker 1: the room and Aden, I'm sure you can even kind
Speaker 1: of voice what you like with her. What do you
Speaker 1: guys do when you feel like there's nothing else left?
Speaker 1: Have you guys reached a point where you're like, Okay,
Speaker 1: sex is boring, let's try something new. And for the
Speaker 1: couples who made me feel like, okay, my my sex
Speaker 1: life right now is really routine, how would you what?
Speaker 1: I guess I know we talked about the toys. What
Speaker 1: would you say could be something to make sex less
Speaker 1: boring for a couple, especially right now. So I think
Speaker 1: I like the popping into by the way. UM, I
Speaker 1: think for us like one thing that we enjoy. You
Speaker 1: were talking about camp soda earlier. We um, we have
Speaker 1: a running joke on our podcast about how much we
Speaker 1: go on chatter Bait. It's the same thing but just
Speaker 1: different girls. UM, And we actually interviewed a girl. Her
Speaker 1: name is Nora from chatter Bait. She's probably one of
Speaker 1: our favorite. She does great shows and like just really cool,
Speaker 1: you know, the like having that especially now because we
Speaker 1: can't go to parties and we can't obviously bring somebody
Speaker 1: into our home. UM, it's nice to be able to
Speaker 1: change things up in that way. So either cam girls
Speaker 1: or just regular porn, there's another way to kind of
Speaker 1: bring things up into to spice it up. Like we
Speaker 1: were fucking earlier watching a porno and just like oh yeah,
Speaker 1: I want to do that. And you know you mentioned
Speaker 1: cam girls. I feel like a lot of people watch porn.
Speaker 1: Can you talk about the cam girls do you like? Um,
Speaker 1: type in the chat and tell them some things. Do
Speaker 1: you join with your camera or do you just watch
Speaker 1: or so and tower. If you do a private you
Speaker 1: could join with your CA. Okay, okay, if you do
Speaker 1: like their regular stream, it's just a chat that's going
Speaker 1: and then maybe they'll do like a special show. So
Speaker 1: like this one girl does ticket sales and she sells
Speaker 1: like tickets for tokens. We buy tokens, and honestly, I
Speaker 1: feel like I'm in a strip club and so much
Speaker 1: better because I'm not actually like throwing money and watching
Speaker 1: it go away and then only getting like their ash shaking,
Speaker 1: like I'm I'm actually getting something from it and I can't.
Speaker 1: So it's very rewarding, very already. Don't that you guys
Speaker 1: do that like that that I don't have you guys
Speaker 1: spent this month or well, let's just say April because
Speaker 1: may now, But how much have you spent in April
Speaker 1: on cam girls? Maybe like I wouldn't. I don't know
Speaker 1: how much we spent in April only because our favorite
Speaker 1: girl hasn't been on there, Like we literally now are
Speaker 1: at the point where if she's not on, we're like
Speaker 1: hardly getting them. But this year, oh yeah, like we're
Speaker 1: actually friends. Yeah we had her on our podcast, said
Speaker 1: you said so for this year for you guys have
Speaker 1: probably spent you said two probably maybe you spent thou
Speaker 1: dollars on it. Oh, probably very easily, have you. Yeah,
Speaker 1: because we just started like you keep adding it more
Speaker 1: and then you just keep throwing them. So and that's
Speaker 1: I mean from any of them in person. No, we
Speaker 1: met some like like exotical, but not like any that
Speaker 1: we know. You know, we just met them and that
Speaker 1: was it. I swear I didn't this. This is a
Speaker 1: perfect segu by the way, I did not know I
Speaker 1: was picking. So the home mail for this episode is
Speaker 1: exactly has to do with this. And I want both
Speaker 1: of your opinions on this. Um maybe taking your relationship
Speaker 1: back before you were as open as you were with
Speaker 1: when you guys were into um. The title of this
Speaker 1: whole mail, and I wish I could make this up
Speaker 1: is watching live cam girls cheating. That's the question. So hey,
Speaker 1: Mandy and Wheezy, Okay, I have two problems. I went
Speaker 1: through my man's phone while he was sleeping. That's definitely
Speaker 1: problem number one. I know this is wrong, but I
Speaker 1: have trust issues. He's cheated on me a lot. He's
Speaker 1: ten years younger than me, but we have been together
Speaker 1: for four years going on five in August, and we
Speaker 1: are expecting our first child together. In October. When I
Speaker 1: went through his phone, I saw in his browser that
Speaker 1: he watches live cam girls that you can chat with.
Speaker 1: I feel like I can't discuss this with him, however,
Speaker 1: because of how I found out about it, snooping. Is
Speaker 1: this considered cheating? What if he's chatting with them that
Speaker 1: is different than porn because it seems more personal. He
Speaker 1: doesn't open up to me sexually, doesn't tell me his
Speaker 1: fantasies are fetishes. I just know he cheats on me
Speaker 1: with white girls, so I assume that's what he likes,
Speaker 1: except he says I'm into Latinos like me, or he's
Speaker 1: into Latinos like me. I don't even understand why he cheats.
Speaker 1: I give him what he wants sexually, sex and head
Speaker 1: every day, except when I catch him cheating. That drives
Speaker 1: me away. And she's pregnant. Oh my god. I think
Speaker 1: I've caught him cheating so many times that he's learned
Speaker 1: to cover his tracks. But I don't think he knows
Speaker 1: that I checked his browser too. Sincerely, pregnant, old and insecure.
Speaker 1: Who's going to do it? And we want me to
Speaker 1: do it. Let me do it. No, no, don't read
Speaker 1: her yet. Let's get some really nice advice. You're already
Speaker 1: look at your tongue, so the karmen well, actually, Karmen,
Speaker 1: I do want to ask you again, going into the
Speaker 1: earlier phases of your relationship, or maybe even thinking of
Speaker 1: past relationships, would you consider a guy watching cam girls
Speaker 1: as cheating? So I wouldn't consider it cheating. We actually
Speaker 1: weren't open about like a d and watching porn at
Speaker 1: first in a relationship. Um so the first so we've
Speaker 1: been an go eight years. First three years were monogamous. Um,
Speaker 1: the thought of even being open going to a sex
Speaker 1: party never would have crossed my mind. Um. I overheard
Speaker 1: him talking to somebody about like porn and at this
Speaker 1: point like, I'm young, I'm not even like who's who's watching?
Speaker 1: Like I want to know because we never had that
Speaker 1: conversation and I was young, I was insecure, So UM,
Speaker 1: I pulled him aside. We were at a family cookout
Speaker 1: and I was like, yo, I heard you talking about um,
Speaker 1: like you're watching porn whatever, Like what's up? Because you
Speaker 1: just told me a couple of weeks ago that you
Speaker 1: don't watch porn. So he lied to me, like dead
Speaker 1: to my face. And then he says, all right, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna be honest, like I do watch it. And I
Speaker 1: was upset. I'm not even gonna lie, like it's okay
Speaker 1: to be upset. I was upset because I was insecure
Speaker 1: at the time. You know, I was a lot younger.
Speaker 1: What about what specifically about it made you feel insecure?
Speaker 1: I think the first part of it was him lying.
Speaker 1: It was him lying because if he was honest when
Speaker 1: I when we first talked about it, sure it might
Speaker 1: hurt a little bit because I wasn't feeling the most
Speaker 1: confident in myself. But I can accept it, and I
Speaker 1: think it probably probably we would have avoided an argument
Speaker 1: if he was honest, But because he lied, we had
Speaker 1: an argument um afterwards, like a couple of weeks after
Speaker 1: because I needed some space to kind of like process
Speaker 1: that I ended up talking to him. I actually, um
Speaker 1: wanted to kind of take control of the situation. So
Speaker 1: I found porn and like pulled it up on his
Speaker 1: computer and we watched it together, and like that was
Speaker 1: our first experience, UM watching porn together. Two girls real.
Speaker 1: I guess my, my, My next question to you before
Speaker 1: um wheezy you know her for filth. I'm waiting for it.
Speaker 1: But but before we get there, Carmen, I want to
Speaker 1: know because she mentioned him watching white girls and of
Speaker 1: course her being a Latina, I want to ask you
Speaker 1: if if when you were insecure, if the type of
Speaker 1: women that Aden was watching. And I know a lot
Speaker 1: of people think this, like if I'm a black, voluptuous
Speaker 1: woman and my man watching white skinny women, does is
Speaker 1: that what he wants? So would that insecurity be there
Speaker 1: or would you have a problem in present day if
Speaker 1: Adian watched porn with women that didn't look like you.
Speaker 1: So it's been a problem I'm in the past. But
Speaker 1: it went from being like the Instagram model the like
Speaker 1: really big titty's big ass, like super curvy too. Then
Speaker 1: he was like, okay, well if that's a problem, he
Speaker 1: went to like super skinny girls like really Flaka, And
Speaker 1: I'm like, like, where do I fit into into this?
Speaker 1: Because when you go from skinny to like um these
Speaker 1: current girls? And then he was looking at BBWs, I
Speaker 1: was like, yo, do you like my body? Like such
Speaker 1: a normal thing to be to try to figure out, like,
Speaker 1: am I enough? You know? I think that's a normal feeling. UM.
Speaker 1: Insecurities okay to feel, but it's how you overcome that. UM.
Speaker 1: Part of it was having a conversation. I'm not gonna
Speaker 1: I and tell you like, oh, conversation is going to
Speaker 1: be the thing that's going to make you feel better
Speaker 1: about yourself. You actually need to put in some work. UM.
Speaker 1: I'm still putting in work, Like I go to therapy
Speaker 1: UM and talk about any insecurities that I have or
Speaker 1: things that have happened in the past UM or I mean,
Speaker 1: just like taking care of myself physically to helps, like
Speaker 1: I feel good. And I understand that when you're when
Speaker 1: you get into a relationship, I think it's so easy
Speaker 1: to to think that whatever your partner found attractive automatically
Speaker 1: just goes away because they're with you, And it doesn't
Speaker 1: work that way, Like you still have attraction for other people,
Speaker 1: Like I curious if she s these guys that she
Speaker 1: finds attractive or girls she finds attractive, UM, and she
Speaker 1: doesn't talk about it with him, so they're secretly going
Speaker 1: on from both sides. UM. And I actually had to
Speaker 1: check myself for that because I was upset with him
Speaker 1: for lying, but lying about like porn and stuff but
Speaker 1: I was all so lying, like I was watching porn,
Speaker 1: but I wouldn't tell him that. And I was interested
Speaker 1: in girls, and I was interested in different types of guys,
Speaker 1: and I wouldn't tell him that. When you cross that barrier,
Speaker 1: I think that that's probably the biggest barrier um at first.
Speaker 1: When you can cross that and have those conversations, then
Speaker 1: I like that you. I like that you brought up
Speaker 1: to even the insecurity of we we we feel insecure
Speaker 1: or get jealous because maybe our partners are our lovers,
Speaker 1: whoever we're dealing with checks out another girl or is
Speaker 1: watching porn in this case. But what's crazy is we
Speaker 1: do it subconsciously too. We double tap pictures on Instagram.
Speaker 1: And I know a lot of women get into hating
Speaker 1: when their man likes pictures on Instagram of these Instagram models.
Speaker 1: But we go on and like pictures. I'm gonna just say,
Speaker 1: Jadinna because bits everybody be liking anything, But we go
Speaker 1: on and we like pictures. We comment if we someone
Speaker 1: to see it's someone attractive in the street. Like you said,
Speaker 1: we can't help if we're attracted to some else, even
Speaker 1: when we're in a relationship with somebody. I think that
Speaker 1: there definitely is just a level of respect. And I'm
Speaker 1: not gonna lie. It's fun for me to be with
Speaker 1: anyone i'm fucking or hanging with and we check people
Speaker 1: out together. It's fun. So I think that that's definitely
Speaker 1: um something to do. I guess wheezy um snooping is bad.
Speaker 1: We know she's pregnant, so be nice, y'all. She's drinking
Speaker 1: water blood. First of all, congratulations on your baby. That's
Speaker 1: super exciting and I wish your energy could be focused
Speaker 1: in that, but unfortunately it isn't. And the reason I
Speaker 1: have a big issue with this question, it's not just you,
Speaker 1: it's people that ask us about what cheating is and
Speaker 1: don't define any rules between each other. That is, oh wait, wait, wait, y'all,
Speaker 1: can we get I like that? Tell me you cannot
Speaker 1: tell ma, Andy, we cannot tell you. There's nothing between
Speaker 1: you and your man is what cheating is. That is
Speaker 1: something that's defined so early on. To be quite honest
Speaker 1: with you, I'm not saying that you even need to
Speaker 1: know it right in the beginning, because maybe you don't know.
Speaker 1: You're kind of just learning. What I would tell you
Speaker 1: is this for a man that you claimed has cheated
Speaker 1: on you so much that you've stayed with You have
Speaker 1: now what it's called a price of admission, and that
Speaker 1: price of admission is him watching cam girls while you're pregnant,
Speaker 1: and you, honest to God, need to get over it.
Speaker 1: Here's why if cheating by definition to you when you
Speaker 1: wrote us, meant he was sucking other people, and you
Speaker 1: know he's this person, Really, what more do you expect
Speaker 1: from him? Right, I'm gonna give you an example. Right,
Speaker 1: I know my nigga was a whole I know this,
Speaker 1: and I'm super comfortable with it. We go out together
Speaker 1: and I see girls look at him and he smiles back.
Speaker 1: If I'm walking back from the bathroom and he's smiling
Speaker 1: and he's talking to them and my shocked, do I
Speaker 1: get super uncomfortable and instcure, No, because that's just, honest
Speaker 1: to God, this is who he is. I come to
Speaker 1: the body's like, oh this is my baby, baby me chanelle. Cute.
Speaker 1: That's just how my nigga is. Okay. Now, if I
Speaker 1: was dating a man there was a super introvert and
Speaker 1: that didn't like to go out and talk to people.
Speaker 1: And I walked back from the bathroom and I saw
Speaker 1: him talking to a woman. Maybe then I would freak
Speaker 1: the funk out. And I say all that to say,
Speaker 1: you know he has a large sexual appetite and poorn
Speaker 1: somehow is bothering you. You are never going to get
Speaker 1: the person you want. If you think that this is
Speaker 1: that big of a deal that you had it right
Speaker 1: into us, he will. It's almost like you have to
Speaker 1: find something at this point. You know he cheated on
Speaker 1: you so many times, so nothing is gonna satisfy you
Speaker 1: because everything will fucking bother you. If he's the perfect man.
Speaker 1: Now he knows how to hide his phone from you.
Speaker 1: If he's not sucking other bitches. Now it's the cam girls.
Speaker 1: If he's not watching cam girls. Oh when he goes
Speaker 1: to the gym, why is he wearing clothes like that?
Speaker 1: It's always going to be something. And if you want
Speaker 1: to just have a healthy life and a healthy pregnancy
Speaker 1: and not stress yourself out, you gotta let this ship go.
Speaker 1: To be honest with you, I find it not just
Speaker 1: a phone thing. Just I obviously we know the phone
Speaker 1: thing is bad, but I've been there, like if you
Speaker 1: can't stop it, you can't stop it is what it is, right,
Speaker 1: But the browser in pretty you getting into the snooping part.
Speaker 1: I want to talk about the browser. That is something
Speaker 1: that is private and honestly, are sexual desires. I don't
Speaker 1: think need to be everyone else's business, even too, even
Speaker 1: if if I had a husband, I don't really think
Speaker 1: it's my business. If you choose to share that with me, cool,
Speaker 1: But sometimes people have desires or things they're into and
Speaker 1: they find it more fun. Maybe right now, cam girls,
Speaker 1: it's an amateur thing. It's very exciting to do. It
Speaker 1: feels more real. Trust me, they don't give a funk
Speaker 1: about your nigga. They don't. They literally don't, and he
Speaker 1: doesn't care either. He just wants to come. So I
Speaker 1: think that, like, you may have to take all of
Speaker 1: your projections and maybe how you view sex and kick
Speaker 1: that out of the window because he's seeing it differently.
Speaker 1: You know, maybe you're not horny enough to get on
Speaker 1: a fucking cam site and masturbate and be done with it.
Speaker 1: But that's just the sexual appetite that he has. So
Speaker 1: either you accept it or you don't. But you can't
Speaker 1: just sit here and be like, is he cheating on me?
Speaker 1: Because you're used to him cheating on you and just
Speaker 1: fabricating this ship in your head because you're only gonna
Speaker 1: drive your own self crazy and or push somebody away.
Speaker 1: Don't you dare tell that nigga you looked through his phone.
Speaker 1: And if you ever do need to tell him you
Speaker 1: look through his phone, it better be because you found
Speaker 1: out he was cheating. Do not tell that man that
Speaker 1: you went through his phone and you found out he
Speaker 1: looking at cam girls. God forbid, I don't care if
Speaker 1: he spent this. I mean, I'm not gonna lie. At
Speaker 1: this point, he probably gonna laugh in your face. Consist
Speaker 1: you stayed after the cheating. So I say it all
Speaker 1: the time. A man will only do to you what
Speaker 1: you allow. So the fact that you stayed, the fact
Speaker 1: that he's been cheating on you, the fact that, um,
Speaker 1: you know you're about to have his kid and you're
Speaker 1: still putting up with the fact that he's a cheater
Speaker 1: and you can't trust him. You may need to now
Speaker 1: change how you view your relationship because maybe now he's
Speaker 1: not cheating on you, because bitch, clearly he's he's telling you.
Speaker 1: You said he's getting better at covering his tracks, but
Speaker 1: you know what's happening, and if you choose to stay,
Speaker 1: the idea of monogamy may not necessarily be what you
Speaker 1: what you what you really want, because you didn't leave
Speaker 1: him for cheating the first time, which is why he
Speaker 1: you still think, and he probably feels comfortable cheating still.
Speaker 1: They will only do what you allow since and you
Speaker 1: still there. So I don't think that. Lets see, this
Speaker 1: is the hard part because like at this point, it's
Speaker 1: too far gone. We can't even like what she's gonna
Speaker 1: do break up with him? No, I think no, it's
Speaker 1: a pandemic, and I think all you could do is
Speaker 1: move forward. Man, And if like the price of admission
Speaker 1: to your nigga is that he likes cam girls and
Speaker 1: just let him, like can girls don't like bro? I
Speaker 1: honest to god, I thought I was gonna get broken
Speaker 1: up with for going to the club all the time
Speaker 1: by somebody was eating with He was like, you just
Speaker 1: love going out and I wouldn't even get super lit.
Speaker 1: He's like, you just have to go out and you
Speaker 1: have to put on makeup and you have to talk
Speaker 1: to people. I'm like, that's my ship. I don't know
Speaker 1: what it is, but for some reason, I love being social.
Speaker 1: That makes me feel good about myself. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, I don't I don't know what it is.
Speaker 1: I get my energy from other people. So like if
Speaker 1: he fabricated that into thinking, the more and more you
Speaker 1: go out and the more you look at people, you're
Speaker 1: gonna want to sunk one of them. That's what you're
Speaker 1: gonna sound like to this nigga. Oh my god, what
Speaker 1: you look at cams? What are you gonna do next?
Speaker 1: You gonna try to meet in my line? Do not.
Speaker 1: I'm telling you you're gonna sound irrational, and men always
Speaker 1: try to do that ship to us. No offense at
Speaker 1: all I'm saying is men be acting like we're fucking nuts,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, when really we'll be thinking
Speaker 1: about what we'll be saying. But these niggas just be like, no,
Speaker 1: this bitch is pregnant and crazy, So sit your pregnant,
Speaker 1: crazy ass down. Big, I'm just playing. I'm not. I'm
Speaker 1: not trying to call you crazy, but seriously, put that
Speaker 1: energy into some other ship. Man, be happy, grateful for
Speaker 1: this quarantine in time, especially if you've got a whole ass, nigga,
Speaker 1: because now you can reconnect with him, reconnect with the wholeness.
Speaker 1: You know, all these niggas as hosed. So y'all, we
Speaker 1: just need to up they hold ass ways and just
Speaker 1: decide we love them as individuals. Because this is why
Speaker 1: sexuality is not a choice. Because I promise you y'all,
Speaker 1: niggas get on my nerves so motherfucking much. I wouldn't
Speaker 1: suck you, but I can't help it. I want the dick,
Speaker 1: have the dick. But I'm absentent right now, y'all, so
Speaker 1: I'm not. But no, that's how you know. We can't
Speaker 1: choose who we sexually to try to do. Okay, So
Speaker 1: just no, We're born this way. Goddamn it. I was
Speaker 1: born wanting some goddamn did and it ain't changing anyways,
Speaker 1: this motherfucker out. Um, before we leave here, Adien and Carmen,
Speaker 1: you guys are so freaking amazing. I feel like i've Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean, I've met you guys in person. I also
Speaker 1: have listened to your pod by the way, guys, dope quality.
Speaker 1: The audio is great. You guys have dope guests. You
Speaker 1: guys said you just had kinks with Kiki. Guys, she
Speaker 1: came on our podcast as well. Um, and also just
Speaker 1: for you guys to be a couple in the lifestyle,
Speaker 1: I feel like we need to add like a whole
Speaker 1: you like fucking drop to that. But because you guys
Speaker 1: are just so open, you guys have been together for
Speaker 1: so long, I think that a lot of our listeners
Speaker 1: eight years and now engaged. So I think that a
Speaker 1: lot of our um audience can relate to you guys.
Speaker 1: And even if they can't relate in the sense of
Speaker 1: being in a relationship, I'm sure they can learn a
Speaker 1: lot about how to introduce just new things to their selves.
Speaker 1: The bedrooms, their lovers, casual, dick non casual? Look which
Speaker 1: one are you? Which one fine? In the years I'm
Speaker 1: gonna see her? You think that I got more fine
Speaker 1: looking at the picture. I was looking at the pictures.
Speaker 1: I ain't gonna lie you was Adien, You look kind
Speaker 1: of like a little boy a long time. He has
Speaker 1: a beard that the hair is a cheat code. I'm
Speaker 1: done with these niggas with beards, Yo, they look like
Speaker 1: whole different niggas without the hair on their face. I'm over.
Speaker 1: But the beard is a good looking. Talked about trimming
Speaker 1: his beard the other day. I all he said was
Speaker 1: trim and I heard remove. I said no. He was like, yo,
Speaker 1: but it's coming over my lips and my teeth. I
Speaker 1: was like, leave it. I ain't even go ahold you
Speaker 1: ship changing during this quarantine. The niggas that I'm liking
Speaker 1: right now, y'all, they got salt and pepper. Talk about
Speaker 1: how old they are. But the niggas got salt and pepper,
Speaker 1: and that beard look like that is doing something and
Speaker 1: little see it a little. I ain't gonna lie that
Speaker 1: little see I have it. I have a tingly sensation
Speaker 1: for a salt and pepper right now, and I'm just like, oh, oh,
Speaker 1: tell me about the world literally end for this bitch
Speaker 1: to want to go over. Ain't that crazy? Crazy too?
Speaker 1: Whats the is going on? Mandy, bitch cut her hair,
Speaker 1: got a cat at even a bitch been talking. I've
Speaker 1: been looking up indoor plants. I'm gonna be old like
Speaker 1: your who as plants. Yeah, bitch, that's that's the next
Speaker 1: phase is getting. I'm gonna be a plant mama plarent
Speaker 1: And all it does is that energy and oxygen. That
Speaker 1: is some That is some unt ship. Okay. The fact
Speaker 1: that I'm on the phone with my home girls and
Speaker 1: we're talking about indoor plants and knife sets, I am
Speaker 1: officially fucking old Okay, it used to be about sucking dick.
Speaker 1: Now we're talking about ordering that you'll be badly over you.
Speaker 1: You'll snap right back into it and they stay like.
Speaker 1: As a woman get older, they're more um, they're sexual
Speaker 1: libidos higher. So, bro, you have you met Mandy's mom.
Speaker 1: I didn't even go your mama at the first party
Speaker 1: I'm at the first live show was like, go to trapeze.
Speaker 1: The fact that my mom embarrassed me in Orlando, by
Speaker 1: the way, and I had to be like, if you don't.
Speaker 1: She was ready to book a session with King Nawar
Speaker 1: and Jasmine. She's like, oh, Tampa, that's close. I'll be
Speaker 1: seeing you soon. And with bets over getting flogged during
Speaker 1: our fucking meet and greet, I said, I told my cousin,
Speaker 1: I said, go get my mama and just wait for
Speaker 1: the motherfucking meet and green. You know what my mom
Speaker 1: was doing, crying in the corner with if we are
Speaker 1: not our mother and children. This girl she comes over
Speaker 1: says my real name in front of everybody, come here,
Speaker 1: and my mom, mind you, the girl don't have a
Speaker 1: meeting things. So I'm trying to be respectful to people
Speaker 1: who paid for the fucking me and greet. She has
Speaker 1: been listening to you for five years. We've had the
Speaker 1: show for three. She's known you on the Instagram for five. Okay,
Speaker 1: take a picture with her please. One of my favorite
Speaker 1: distinctions of how our mothers are really us um pe
Speaker 1: Muna asked when a man comes, and this was at
Speaker 1: our first live show. You guys were there. They said,
Speaker 1: this is to the mama's he said, And he said,
Speaker 1: where where do you want him to come? And here
Speaker 1: goes my mom's in her host self. Oh and she
Speaker 1: has pearls on. I guess I'll take it in my mouth.
Speaker 1: Mandy's mom. I got three orifices and I'm gonna use
Speaker 1: all of you. Remember that when I tell you, I
Speaker 1: mean like mom, why, same thing i'd be acting. I
Speaker 1: am even earths. At the Orlando Live show, they get
Speaker 1: up and do the fucking porn. My mom wins, but
Speaker 1: her first category was BBC. I said, no, Mom, you
Speaker 1: can't know no, Mom, you're the white mom. Shut the
Speaker 1: funk up, standing, don't say you can't say BBC EP
Speaker 1: And you keep on that, shut away, why my mom?
Speaker 1: And then here goes we these mom. He goes, Mom,
Speaker 1: she's supposed to pick categories and We's mom is just
Speaker 1: saying in my mouth, in my my hits, we're like
Speaker 1: ms Jeule is supposed to be category and she's like
Speaker 1: on my arm. My mom's together. Many's mom was like Asian.
Speaker 1: My mom was like in my face, what's going on? You?
Speaker 1: I know, have y'all thought about bringing your your mom
Speaker 1: on the we say all the time, but like they
Speaker 1: know they listen to your podcast. I think they know.
Speaker 1: Like so for example, when um, we interviewed Sammy from
Speaker 1: the Circle earlier this year and we have to drive
Speaker 1: to Philadelphia, y'all try to fund I mean, no, we
Speaker 1: did not know. We did not no, no, she got
Speaker 1: a man. So, um, we're respectful. We're respectful. We're respectful.
Speaker 1: We try to be. We have had people with Mendo
Speaker 1: try to come up and then we're like we find
Speaker 1: out afterwards and that's drama we don't want to be
Speaker 1: a part of. But that's right. But yes, So I
Speaker 1: told my mom we're going to Philadelphia. She's like, oh, well,
Speaker 1: before I said oh to do a podcast interview, she
Speaker 1: just changed the subject Like we're texting, she just completely
Speaker 1: ignored it, just changed the subject. I'm like, all right, cool, whatever,
Speaker 1: that's more than my mom asked where she went wrong?
Speaker 1: Because my sister is by, I'm by. My mom was like,
Speaker 1: where did I all wrong? And my dad thinks that
Speaker 1: our podcast is about fitness. He wants a link to listen.
Speaker 1: He doesn't know how to really like use a phone. Um,
Speaker 1: and I'm not trying to explain how to find a
Speaker 1: podcast to him because now he'll start listening to absolutely
Speaker 1: not Yeah, I do that. When I meet a guy,
Speaker 1: I'll be like, Nope, don't listen to the podcast. Ask
Speaker 1: me what the funk you want to know? I'm gonna
Speaker 1: tell you, but don't go and listen. Don't go and listen.
Speaker 1: They're well, then maybe he's not meant for me. I'm like,
Speaker 1: I'm just like just playing. I don't be here about
Speaker 1: the boot hole herede. I'm gonna I'm gonna throw tomatoes
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Speaker 1: For fact Stake podcast. This week, Eddie and I are
Speaker 1: going to dive into weird ways that people die, don't ask.
Speaker 1: Last week we did scienceology. Do you all know what
Speaker 1: the fuck? Nigga? No, that starts with it starts with science,
Speaker 1: so no, not even science. It's like it's about like
Speaker 1: aliens in your body and when you die, they leave
Speaker 1: your body, nigga Will Smith in the ship bits, Maybe
Speaker 1: that what I Maybe? I like Scientology Now I never
Speaker 1: Google because for any episode of anything I've ever done
Speaker 1: in my fucking life, I got in such a rabbit hole.
Speaker 1: I couldn't even I was talking about horrible decisions and Scientology.
Speaker 1: I was this ship was crazy, bro, they legit you
Speaker 1: have to pay hundreds of thousands of dollars to like
Speaker 1: get deeper into the religion, right and the deep Oh no,
Speaker 1: sounds like a scam. It sounds like Tom Cruise is
Speaker 1: at the top of the chain. Right. But every single
Speaker 1: person does scientology. Okay, they got they believed that an
Speaker 1: alien landed in their body and that when they die,
Speaker 1: the alien goes back to Venus and then he redonect
Speaker 1: rex itself to another body. So scientology was that thing
Speaker 1: all the celebrities in the Luminati. That's what scientology is.
Speaker 1: The Luminati crazy Scientology is. Do y' all know who
Speaker 1: Charles Manson is, Yeah, bitch. He opened in Scientology and
Speaker 1: said it was too crazy. Oh hell, that's how you child, psycho.
Speaker 1: That might be some ship I'm not interested in. Actually,
Speaker 1: I'm not interested in none of this ship. You know, anything,
Speaker 1: you might die. He's like, they will come get us.
Speaker 1: I was like, I am just interested in Dickson, vaginas
Speaker 1: um and taxes. At one point that was a part
Speaker 1: of my life. Anyways. Uh again, before we get out
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Speaker 1: because y'all kept asking, Hey, are y'all posting on YouTube still?
Speaker 1: Because we went shy for like a fucking month. So
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Speaker 1: so exciting, you guys want to And Benson, who's in here,
Speaker 1: was like, oh, turning room, we can't have you faced
Speaker 1: the window. Nick, it's blackout tide. You girl always saw
Speaker 1: is windows and it made your partner, which it made
Speaker 1: you look like a scientology. Okay, but no shout out
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Speaker 1: All right, mack, let us talk about Yeah. I mean,
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't really even like to call myself
Speaker 1: queers sometimes because I don't feel like I have suffered
Speaker 1: any real like stigma from that or like the negative
Speaker 1: effects of that, because I'm generally passing in any way,
Speaker 1: and I am, for the most part like straight. But
Speaker 1: but I do feel like, I, you know, I believe
Speaker 1: in that, Like I don't really believe in uh, you know,
Speaker 1: gender as as a thing that you should aspire to,
Speaker 1: Like I don't think that man should aspire to be manly,
Speaker 1: and I guess that kind of moves us into our
Speaker 1: some of our vanilla ship. I think we're going to
Speaker 1: talk about that was that was notes by the way,
Speaker 1: I just learned how to see right the other day.
Speaker 1: I thought he was spelled like the scooter. That's what
Speaker 1: doesn't even actually having no ship, So I funked it up.
Speaker 1: But it was just back to the main topic we
Speaker 1: were going to talk about was the patriarchy and the
Speaker 1: perils of toxic masculinity. Had three bets all what it
Speaker 1: would be in toxicculsic. Toxic masculine was one of them
Speaker 1: because we were supposed to have that episode with James exactly.
Speaker 1: That's what we what we wanted to talk about. When
Speaker 1: I was maybe made a good point like I wanted
Speaker 1: to bring you back to talk about that, and she
Speaker 1: was like, well, I want someone that's like overly toxic,
Speaker 1: and I want us to then break it down and
Speaker 1: talk about it together. But I do feel like we're
Speaker 1: not a couple of people on your show from well,
Speaker 1: we don't really have much beyond that because we're doing
Speaker 1: your homeworkers hard. But I mean, I think we can
Speaker 1: we can talk on that. No, let's do it for
Speaker 1: a while. But um, I mean, you know, kind of
Speaker 1: just talking about I think what what you were saying
Speaker 1: about me being queer or whatever. Just I I do
Speaker 1: believe that like gender is bullshit in a way, and
Speaker 1: and I've kind of felt like that innately, just like
Speaker 1: for a long time, but just learning more and we
Speaker 1: can specify it a little bit more like not we're
Speaker 1: not talking specifically about like sex at birth or even
Speaker 1: like just think I like to call it gender performance
Speaker 1: or the way that you move through through the world
Speaker 1: and like present yourself to people. For example, we're both
Speaker 1: we're all wearing a beautiful dark nail color today. I
Speaker 1: really enjoy doing these like acts of queerness to or
Speaker 1: other nests or strangeness to either like bring uh femininity
Speaker 1: to masculinity or masculinity to like femininity in presentation or performance.
Speaker 1: Can I say you, Actually, the more I get to know,
Speaker 1: the longer I've known you, like you started wearing eyeliner
Speaker 1: and mascara. I think only I can only remember you
Speaker 1: doing this about maybe a year and a half two
Speaker 1: years ago. But when I first met you, I didn't
Speaker 1: remember this, and I wanted to ask you. And I
Speaker 1: don't know if it's too personal, but I mean, whatever,
Speaker 1: do you think you've been more comfortable with your sexuality
Speaker 1: and being gay as time goes on? Absolutely? Yes, since
Speaker 1: I've known you. I mean yes, absolutely before I met you.
Speaker 1: Just before I met you, I went through the dramatic
Speaker 1: experience of both coming out to myself like around my
Speaker 1: mid teens and then coming out to a growing circle
Speaker 1: of my family and friends. And that was a lot.
Speaker 1: And then like a couple of years after that, I
Speaker 1: met you, and that's when I first started feeling comfortable
Speaker 1: like going out to bars, like to be myself and
Speaker 1: to meet people, or to be on the apps or
Speaker 1: to even like just introduce myself as a gay person.
Speaker 1: Um so, and even since then, since I've met you,
Speaker 1: and since uh you moved from Orlando to to New York,
Speaker 1: I I feel like the closer I get to thirty,
Speaker 1: which my birthday is coming up in two months, the
Speaker 1: closer I gets to thirty, I've like realized that I
Speaker 1: don't give a ship about what other people um think
Speaker 1: about me any more. Or it's not like a sudden
Speaker 1: drop off has just been a study decline of realizing
Speaker 1: that finding the things that make me happy and the
Speaker 1: things that make me feel filled, and the things that
Speaker 1: made me feel like a productive member of my community.
Speaker 1: Um Like, finding those things are and doing those things
Speaker 1: are way more important than making my community or parents
Speaker 1: or family happy with me. Do you think that has
Speaker 1: to do with your surround Like, well, for example, I remember,
Speaker 1: we don't have to get into your coming out story.
Speaker 1: Actually I wanted to talk about it, but I don't
Speaker 1: know if you know, maybe to be to lengthy. And
Speaker 1: I want to get to James too. But you told
Speaker 1: me that when you told your mom, she started praying, Um. Yes.
Speaker 1: During the during the my coming out experience with my parents,
Speaker 1: they were visiting me in my apartment that I you know,
Speaker 1: was a young professional like just graduated a year before
Speaker 1: got hired. They came to visit me after I just
Speaker 1: moved to Orlando, and I was like, this is the
Speaker 1: time that I need to come out. Like it's not
Speaker 1: around a birthday or major holiday or anything. This is
Speaker 1: seriously to them, just in my space, like I have
Speaker 1: to do this now. And I told a good friend
Speaker 1: of mine, like, if I don't do it this weekend,
Speaker 1: you have to hold it to me, Like I have
Speaker 1: to actually hold me to it. I have to actually
Speaker 1: do it. And finally, the last night that they were there,
Speaker 1: I UM worked up the nerve to ask them to
Speaker 1: put their iPads down to what I had to say,
Speaker 1: and uh, Almost immediately, my dad, who was a pastor,
Speaker 1: UM started to pray the demon of homosexuality out of
Speaker 1: me