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Speaker 1: From Mediators World News Headquarters in Bozeman, Montana. This is

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Speaker 1: Cal's weekend review, presented by Steel. Steel products are available

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Speaker 1: dot com. Now here's your host. Ryan cal Callahan.

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Speaker 2: A trapper in northern Minnesota, made national news last week

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Speaker 2: for going above and beyond to save an animal that

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Speaker 2: had been caught in one of his traps. This good

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Speaker 2: hearted individual had snagged a Pine martin In a set

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Speaker 2: meant for bobcats. A set is, you know, like you're

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Speaker 2: if you were somebody who was out there fishing with

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Speaker 2: bobber and a worm, that would be your set. Okay,

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Speaker 2: when your trapper a trap that is baited and ready

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Speaker 2: to rock is a set, You're welcome. Pine Martin seasons

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Speaker 2: had already ended, so he called the Minnesota DNR to

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Speaker 2: report the incidental take. But according to conservation Officer Nicholas

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Speaker 2: p or Perchar Pracker pratchar Perchar, give me a call,

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Speaker 2: let me know how to pronounce that. We'll just call

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Speaker 2: him DNR Officer Nick, the man was almost in tears

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Speaker 2: on phone because he said he didn't want the animal

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Speaker 2: to die. Moments later, the man said he saw the

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Speaker 2: Martin's eyes flutter and he hung up. He called back

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Speaker 2: to report that he'd revived the Martin using the animal

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Speaker 2: version of CPR. He put his lips on the animal's

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Speaker 2: nose and blew into it, which miraculously worked. Video taken

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Speaker 2: by the trapper's wife confirmed the sequence of events, and

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Speaker 2: game wardens arrived to find a very alive and very

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Speaker 2: angry Pine Martin pinballing around the trapper's ATV. The animal

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Speaker 2: was released back in the wood shortly thereafter, and he'll

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Speaker 2: have quite a storage tell at his next dinner party.

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Speaker 2: Animal CPR is a very real thing. According to the

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Speaker 2: American Red Cross. If you ever discover that your dog

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Speaker 2: or other animal isn't breathing and doesn't have a heartbeat,

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Speaker 2: the organization recommends performing thirty chest compressions at a rate

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Speaker 2: of one hundred per minute. After that, rush your teeth.

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Speaker 2: Give the animal two rescue breaths by closing its mouth

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Speaker 2: and blowing into its nose until you see the chest rise.

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Speaker 2: You know, like if you ever you got a naughty

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Speaker 2: dog and you clamp its jaw shut. We'll do that

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Speaker 2: gently and blow into its nostrils. This Minnesota trapper has

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Speaker 2: so far declined to talk about the experience to the media.

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Speaker 2: But don't go thinking this is a one off late

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Speaker 2: Christmas miracle. Lots of stories in the waterfowl world of labradors,

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Speaker 2: Chessias and swamp collies being wet kissed back to life.

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Speaker 2: Those hunters not only get their buddies back after a

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Speaker 2: really scary moment, but they also had the best excuse

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Speaker 2: for any dog mistakes forever. Well, you can't be too

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Speaker 2: hard on old Gus. He's short a few brain cells.

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Speaker 2: I ever tell you about the Timey drown. This week

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Speaker 2: we've got HPAI, Ice, Float, Snort Report, and Kevlar. But

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Speaker 2: first I'm gonna tell you about my week in My

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Speaker 2: week was a lot of fun. First, big thanks to

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Speaker 2: the boys, Taylor Luon and Will Compton of Busting with

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Speaker 2: the Boys for coming out to duck hunt here in Montana.

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Speaker 2: It's only because of you two we got midweek hunt

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Speaker 2: in with Old Snort. She is a happy girl after

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Speaker 2: a morning of mixed water and field retrieves. She did

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Speaker 2: pretty darn well too, considering this was our first duck

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Speaker 2: hunt of the year. Kills me to say that. You'll,

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Speaker 2: of course be able to watch some of the fun

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Speaker 2: on an upcoming Meat Eater podcast and some field footage

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Speaker 2: on the Meat Eater YouTube channel. One big issue Snort

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Speaker 2: and I are having is my old whistle, which is

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Speaker 2: the only whistle Snort has ever been around, is really

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Speaker 2: starting to fail. It's starting to stick and get this

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Speaker 2: that hard headed little girl tends to forget. But didn't

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Speaker 2: so it was pretty darn good. Then, for more fun,

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Speaker 2: we had to ease to the family farm, which is

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Speaker 2: very small but at times loads up with geese. We

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Speaker 2: on Saturday, with no shortage of goose killing opportunities. I

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Speaker 2: would call a cackling goose. There are four subspecies of

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Speaker 2: cackling goose, which, for those of you who are not

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Speaker 2: birders or not goose hunters, these are just small geese

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Speaker 2: and comparatively rare to the enormous numbers of Canada geese.

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Speaker 2: According to Ducks Unlimited, a two thousand and seven population

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Speaker 2: study estimated only seventy four thousand Taverners geese, which is

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Speaker 2: and he shot this goose with a ten gage shotgun,

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Speaker 2: Just how to point that out. Don't worry, the tiny

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Speaker 2: geese have seen steady population increases along with the Canada geese,

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Speaker 2: which are writing a fifteen hundred percent population increase over

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Speaker 2: the last forty years. Moving on to the pandemic desk,

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Speaker 2: the bird flu epidemic isn't as serious as last year,

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Speaker 2: but it's still taking a toll on some waterfowl populations.

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Speaker 2: Listener Mike from Wisconsin sent me a story from his

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Speaker 2: neck of the woods about a quarry near Green Bay

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Speaker 2: that was shut down due to a bird flu outbreak.

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Speaker 2: Several dead geese were found recently at Duck Creek Quarry

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Speaker 2: and testing confirmed that they died of highly pathogenic avian influenza.

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Speaker 2: The quarry and surrounding trails will be closed to public

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Speaker 2: There have been about eighty six hundred reported cases of

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Speaker 2: were only two hundred and seventy five cases reported in

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Speaker 2: December of twenty twenty three, and the prevalence of the

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Speaker 2: disease has decreased since its peak in twenty twenty two.

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Speaker 2: That's good news for both duck hunters and chicken farmers,

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Speaker 2: but bird flu isn't going anywhere anytime soon. In fact,

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Speaker 2: Alaska made history recently when wildlife officials confirmed that a

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Speaker 2: officials believe the bear probably got the flu by eating

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Speaker 2: a dead bird, which is often how non avian gritters

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Speaker 2: died from avian influenza and Alaska in the past two years.

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Speaker 2: Other areas have seen dead skunks, raccoons, mountain lions, squirrels, seals,

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Speaker 2: of time before it claimed one of Coca Cola's mascots.

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Speaker 2: But this polar bear story illustrates the differences between this

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Speaker 2: outbreak and the one in twenty fourteen. In twenty fifteen,

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Speaker 2: those years saw millions of dead chickens and turkeys, but

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Speaker 2: we're seeing far more dead wild birds and mammals, which

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Speaker 2: makes it more different cult to stamp out the disease.

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Speaker 2: It's unfortunate to wipe out an entire chicken farm, but

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Speaker 2: in the grand scheme of things, it's a relatively simple process.

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Speaker 2: It's far more challenging to address a disease in wild populations,

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Speaker 2: but that's exactly what wildlife officials are trying to do.

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Speaker 2: If you thought it was tough to convince Americans to

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Speaker 2: get vaccinated for COVID, just try convincing an eight hundred

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Speaker 2: pound carnivore to take the jab. You'll need more than

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Speaker 2: a catchy jingle and the help of late night talk

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Speaker 2: show hosts. There isn't a vaccine for bird flu, but

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Speaker 2: it's almost impossible to contain. And speaking of polar bears.

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Speaker 2: The fuzzy Arctic mammals may contain the secret to the

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Speaker 2: next breakthrough in winter clothing. Thanks to listener Jim Lane

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Speaker 2: for sending us this story. Chinese scientists created a material

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Speaker 2: modeled after polar bear fur, and they found that it's

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Speaker 2: warmer and less bulky than down in wool jackets. Each

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Speaker 2: strand of polar bear fur contains pockets of air that

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Speaker 2: trap heat and prevent it from escaping, but those pockets

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Speaker 2: a synthetic material called encapsulated aerogel fiber that works on

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Speaker 2: the similar principle. They knitted a sweater out of this

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Speaker 2: down jacket, it had the best insulation of all four fabrics.

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Speaker 2: It also maintained its heat trapping properties even after being stretched,

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Speaker 2: you may want to jump on this one. Australian mountaineer

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Speaker 2: George Finch was nearly laughed off the mountain when he

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Speaker 2: anti hunter desk, an environmental organization in British Columbia has

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Speaker 2: bought the commercial hunting rights to eighteen thousand square kilometers

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Speaker 2: central coast. That represents about a quarter of the entire

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Speaker 2: thousand square kilometers. The group is called the Raincoast Conservation

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Speaker 2: Foundation and they've been buying these hunting tenures since two

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Speaker 2: thousand and five. A hunting tenure in BC is a

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Speaker 2: guide clients in that area. The Raincoast Conservation Foundation purchases

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Speaker 2: these tenures, but instead of using them to guide hunters,

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Speaker 2: tourism and wildlife watching. Canadian law does include some requirements

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Speaker 2: don't require the guide or hunters to actually kill anything.

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Speaker 2: gone down to zero in those properties. We just have very,

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Speaker 2: very poor hunters, he said. Actual hunters and outfitters in

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Speaker 2: Canada aren't too happy about this, as you can imagine.

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Speaker 2: While grizzly hunting was banned in the province in twenty seventeen,

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Speaker 2: hunters can still pursue all kinds of game in one

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Speaker 2: essentially animal rights activists, their options are limited. The group

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Speaker 2: Hunters for BC told the CBC that the law should

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Speaker 2: Whatever the case may be, any ice angler can determine

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Speaker 2: our politicians handled the politics. That's all I got for

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Speaker 2: you this week. Thank you so much for listening. Remember

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