1
00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:04,600
Speaker 1: Now here's a highlight from Coast to coast AM on iHeartRadio.

2
00:00:04,920 --> 00:00:07,240
Speaker 2: He welcome back, George, nor with you. We've got a

3
00:00:07,280 --> 00:00:10,840
Speaker 2: fascinating couple more hours for you with Justin McHenry. A

4
00:00:10,960 --> 00:00:15,720
Speaker 2: historian with a passion for discovering long lost, strange, weird

5
00:00:15,760 --> 00:00:19,160
Speaker 2: and bizarre stories from the past and breathing new life

6
00:00:19,160 --> 00:00:22,800
Speaker 2: into them. He's the author of Lemuria, A True Story

7
00:00:23,239 --> 00:00:27,680
Speaker 2: of a Fake Place. His work has been featured in newspapers, magazines,

8
00:00:27,760 --> 00:00:31,920
Speaker 2: and various online publications such as Faith Magazine as well.

9
00:00:32,080 --> 00:00:33,640
Speaker 2: Justin welcome to the program.

10
00:00:34,320 --> 00:00:36,239
Speaker 3: Thank you so much, George. It's an honor and a

11
00:00:36,280 --> 00:00:37,239
Speaker 3: pleasure to be here with you.

12
00:00:37,400 --> 00:00:39,800
Speaker 2: I love the subtitle of your book. Explain it to us,

13
00:00:39,840 --> 00:00:41,879
Speaker 2: a true story of a fake Place.

14
00:00:42,720 --> 00:00:47,440
Speaker 3: Well, just so maybe if people don't know, Lemoria is

15
00:00:47,479 --> 00:00:51,320
Speaker 3: the great lost continent of the Pacific Ocean, so it's

16
00:00:51,479 --> 00:00:57,480
Speaker 3: kind of, you know, Atlantis's crazy Pacific cousin. And I

17
00:00:57,520 --> 00:01:00,920
Speaker 3: call it a fake place just because you know. It

18
00:01:00,960 --> 00:01:05,360
Speaker 3: has a very specific beginning. It starts in like the

19
00:01:05,440 --> 00:01:09,119
Speaker 3: eighteen sixties with a British ornithologist who was talking who

20
00:01:09,240 --> 00:01:13,320
Speaker 3: just was talking about how lemurs got onto Madagascar. And

21
00:01:13,360 --> 00:01:20,280
Speaker 3: he theorized a land bridge that connected Africa to Madagascar,

22
00:01:21,000 --> 00:01:26,440
Speaker 3: and he proposed the name Lamoria for this place, and

23
00:01:26,480 --> 00:01:28,319
Speaker 3: then it kind of just took off from there. And

24
00:01:28,360 --> 00:01:33,039
Speaker 3: so while there may have been a lost continent on

25
00:01:33,120 --> 00:01:36,800
Speaker 3: the in the Pacific Ocean, you know, Lamoria, it still

26
00:01:37,040 --> 00:01:40,760
Speaker 3: started as a land bridge to Madagascar. So it was

27
00:01:40,840 --> 00:01:43,160
Speaker 3: kind of that's how that's how I came up with

28
00:01:43,200 --> 00:01:45,360
Speaker 3: the fake place name for it.

29
00:01:45,360 --> 00:01:48,600
Speaker 2: It was close also to the Indian Australia in that

30
00:01:48,680 --> 00:01:49,440
Speaker 2: kind of region.

31
00:01:50,240 --> 00:01:53,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, you know what that's the In the the

32
00:01:53,440 --> 00:01:57,360
Speaker 3: early days of Lomoria, in the you know, mid to

33
00:01:57,440 --> 00:02:03,440
Speaker 3: late eighteen hundreds, you know, Leamoria was wrapped around all

34
00:02:03,480 --> 00:02:07,559
Speaker 3: of this like major scientific discoveries going on at the time.

35
00:02:07,680 --> 00:02:12,040
Speaker 3: So it was really big into the continental shifts and

36
00:02:12,040 --> 00:02:16,040
Speaker 3: how like the continents themselves formed. And so the guy

37
00:02:16,680 --> 00:02:20,560
Speaker 3: behind the idea of like you know, the continents actually

38
00:02:20,680 --> 00:02:24,000
Speaker 3: you know shifted over millions and millions and billions of years,

39
00:02:25,840 --> 00:02:31,720
Speaker 3: labeled the shift of India how it separated from Africa

40
00:02:31,919 --> 00:02:38,160
Speaker 3: and collided into Asia which created the Himalayan Mountains. He

41
00:02:38,240 --> 00:02:43,799
Speaker 3: called that the Limorian shift and so and then after

42
00:02:43,880 --> 00:02:52,680
Speaker 3: that there was a very popular German evolutionist guy by

43
00:02:52,720 --> 00:02:57,280
Speaker 3: the name of Ernest Heichel, who was theorizing about where

44
00:02:57,360 --> 00:03:01,320
Speaker 3: humans came from and where like humans evolved on and

45
00:03:01,360 --> 00:03:04,720
Speaker 3: so he needed a the perfect place for this to happen.

46
00:03:04,720 --> 00:03:07,320
Speaker 3: He needed like a Goldilocks land. And for him he

47
00:03:07,400 --> 00:03:10,359
Speaker 3: took the idea of Limoria and said, you know, out

48
00:03:10,400 --> 00:03:14,240
Speaker 3: there in the middle of the Indian Ocean, there had

49
00:03:14,280 --> 00:03:17,360
Speaker 3: to have been this place where you know, the gestation

50
00:03:17,639 --> 00:03:21,400
Speaker 3: of humanity happened, and he placed that on Lamoria. And

51
00:03:21,440 --> 00:03:25,040
Speaker 3: then from Lamoria, you know, humanity evolved and then you know,

52
00:03:25,120 --> 00:03:28,120
Speaker 3: spread out throughout you know, Africa, and then into Asia,

53
00:03:28,280 --> 00:03:32,240
Speaker 3: into India and those other places. So Lamoria was really

54
00:03:32,520 --> 00:03:38,320
Speaker 3: wrapped into these very serious scientific, you know, theorizing in

55
00:03:38,360 --> 00:03:43,520
Speaker 3: the nineteenth century, which kind of helped it gain a

56
00:03:43,560 --> 00:03:47,640
Speaker 3: foothold into the world of the esoteric and the and

57
00:03:47,720 --> 00:03:48,480
Speaker 3: the occult too.

58
00:03:49,280 --> 00:03:51,920
Speaker 2: And justin what was it about Lemiria that got you

59
00:03:52,080 --> 00:03:53,200
Speaker 2: fascinated by it?

60
00:03:53,840 --> 00:03:59,200
Speaker 3: Oh, it's I have heard bits and pieces of the

61
00:03:59,240 --> 00:04:03,680
Speaker 3: Limorian storeorry for for a long time. You know, a

62
00:04:03,680 --> 00:04:08,480
Speaker 3: little bit from Madame Bolovatski and her ideas about Lamoria,

63
00:04:08,720 --> 00:04:12,840
Speaker 3: a little bit from Richard Shaver and his Shaver Mysteries,

64
00:04:13,000 --> 00:04:17,320
Speaker 3: which it's all that takes place on Lamoria itself. So

65
00:04:17,600 --> 00:04:22,200
Speaker 3: and also the Lost continent of MoU, which is kind

66
00:04:22,240 --> 00:04:27,160
Speaker 3: of like Lemoria but without the you know, with just

67
00:04:27,240 --> 00:04:31,040
Speaker 3: the move part. So I just had all these different ideas,

68
00:04:31,160 --> 00:04:34,680
Speaker 3: and then when the pandemic hit, I was looking for

69
00:04:34,720 --> 00:04:36,560
Speaker 3: something to do, like a lot of people, and so

70
00:04:37,120 --> 00:04:39,960
Speaker 3: my hobby was just, I guess, let's go write a book.

71
00:04:40,760 --> 00:04:43,919
Speaker 2: If it went down, when did it go down?

72
00:04:44,120 --> 00:04:47,800
Speaker 3: And how that's It just depends on who you're talking

73
00:04:47,839 --> 00:04:53,120
Speaker 3: to and the time of day. So a lot of

74
00:04:53,279 --> 00:04:57,159
Speaker 3: the ideas around Themoria and how it how it sunk,

75
00:04:58,600 --> 00:05:02,040
Speaker 3: revolve around i'd say one hundred, one hundred and fifty

76
00:05:02,080 --> 00:05:05,880
Speaker 3: thousand years ago, and a lot of people, especially with

77
00:05:06,200 --> 00:05:10,760
Speaker 3: after Blovatski, they put it on a timeline sometime before

78
00:05:10,880 --> 00:05:17,360
Speaker 3: Atlantis's time. So what happens would be, you know, Lamoria

79
00:05:17,520 --> 00:05:21,440
Speaker 3: sank and some of the inhabitants of Lamoria migrated to

80
00:05:21,520 --> 00:05:25,760
Speaker 3: Atlantis and then you know, built up Atlantis that way.

81
00:05:26,080 --> 00:05:28,800
Speaker 2: And they got it to them.

82
00:05:29,040 --> 00:05:33,880
Speaker 3: Yes, yes, And so it's a and like someone like

83
00:05:34,160 --> 00:05:37,160
Speaker 3: James church Ward who came up with the idea of Moo.

84
00:05:39,320 --> 00:05:44,160
Speaker 3: He posits that there were gas pockets underneath the continent,

85
00:05:45,120 --> 00:05:49,080
Speaker 3: and then once those gas pockets kind of released it,

86
00:05:49,080 --> 00:05:53,520
Speaker 3: it is that is what ultimately sunk moo Or or Lomoria.

87
00:05:53,760 --> 00:05:55,880
Speaker 3: So there's there's a bunch of different ideas, a lot

88
00:05:55,880 --> 00:06:01,839
Speaker 3: of it also, especially newer ideas, like in the twentieth century,

89
00:06:01,839 --> 00:06:08,719
Speaker 3: the late twentieth century, people were saying Lamoria was destroyed

90
00:06:08,800 --> 00:06:12,280
Speaker 3: by like you know, civil war and forces like that.

91
00:06:13,480 --> 00:06:17,159
Speaker 3: They were like a persecuted race, and then you know

92
00:06:17,680 --> 00:06:21,400
Speaker 3: that would lead to its destruction and then you know,

93
00:06:21,480 --> 00:06:24,520
Speaker 3: some of the survivors, you know, got cast off to

94
00:06:24,560 --> 00:06:25,279
Speaker 3: Atlantis too.

95
00:06:25,440 --> 00:06:28,000
Speaker 2: And Limuria was a good chunk of land, wasn't it.

96
00:06:28,960 --> 00:06:30,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, if you look at a map of move that

97
00:06:31,200 --> 00:06:34,440
Speaker 3: James Churchward wred it basically almost all of the Pacific

98
00:06:34,480 --> 00:06:40,080
Speaker 3: Ocean was a big, huge continent out there. Some of

99
00:06:40,120 --> 00:06:41,800
Speaker 3: the ones like in the Indian Ocean it was a

100
00:06:41,800 --> 00:06:48,599
Speaker 3: little bit smaller, but yeah, it was a considerable chunk

101
00:06:48,640 --> 00:06:50,960
Speaker 3: of land out there in the Pacific Ocean.

102
00:06:51,400 --> 00:06:53,520
Speaker 2: What do you estimate the population to be.

103
00:06:55,120 --> 00:06:58,640
Speaker 3: It was? It ranges from a few hundred thousand to

104
00:07:01,040 --> 00:07:05,839
Speaker 3: James Churchward put it up around like you know, fifteen

105
00:07:06,000 --> 00:07:10,160
Speaker 3: to one hundred million people living there at one time. Yeah, yeah,

106
00:07:10,160 --> 00:07:11,400
Speaker 3: it was. It was a big place.

107
00:07:12,160 --> 00:07:14,120
Speaker 2: What kind of technology did they have?

108
00:07:15,160 --> 00:07:18,760
Speaker 3: That's another one. It's so if you get someone like

109
00:07:18,840 --> 00:07:22,440
Speaker 3: James Churchward, it was like a pretty advanced kind of

110
00:07:22,480 --> 00:07:30,240
Speaker 3: ancient civilization that that would be like you know, akin

111
00:07:30,320 --> 00:07:32,680
Speaker 3: to like maybe ancient Greece or something like that. But

112
00:07:32,720 --> 00:07:36,440
Speaker 3: then you have you know, someone like Rudolph Steiner who

113
00:07:36,960 --> 00:07:46,040
Speaker 3: astray projected himself back to Limoria and he talks about

114
00:07:46,920 --> 00:07:48,760
Speaker 3: the humans that live there or kind of had like

115
00:07:48,880 --> 00:07:51,720
Speaker 3: Jedi like powers where they you know, they can you know,

116
00:07:51,760 --> 00:07:55,320
Speaker 3: speak with each other if you're telempathy. They can move

117
00:07:55,440 --> 00:07:59,200
Speaker 3: stuff with their minds and build buildings, build large civilizations

118
00:07:59,280 --> 00:08:02,800
Speaker 3: or build you know, large cities with their minds and

119
00:08:02,840 --> 00:08:04,560
Speaker 3: things like that. So you get a lot of like

120
00:08:04,600 --> 00:08:11,400
Speaker 3: I guess, stone age technology, but it's also like you know,

121
00:08:11,520 --> 00:08:15,560
Speaker 3: some people have, especially if you you know, believe in

122
00:08:15,600 --> 00:08:20,560
Speaker 3: the Shaver mysteries and and what happens where he kind

123
00:08:20,560 --> 00:08:23,760
Speaker 3: of got a link back to the past, to the

124
00:08:23,920 --> 00:08:27,200
Speaker 3: morea you know, there were these giant races of people

125
00:08:28,000 --> 00:08:33,200
Speaker 3: living underground, and they were building robots and and just

126
00:08:33,240 --> 00:08:36,920
Speaker 3: had like a very advanced you know civilization with you know,

127
00:08:37,280 --> 00:08:41,280
Speaker 3: interstellar spacecraft and things along those lines. So you know,

128
00:08:41,520 --> 00:08:49,280
Speaker 3: it covers a wide gamut of of technologies and people too.

129
00:08:49,400 --> 00:08:51,040
Speaker 4: And I know you're gonna want them after hearing this.

130
00:08:51,040 --> 00:08:52,079
Speaker 4: This is an amazing story.

131
00:08:52,160 --> 00:08:56,600
Speaker 1: We've got Steven and Malachi Gregory in Nelson, New Zealand.

132
00:08:56,720 --> 00:08:59,360
Speaker 4: Now I understand that Malachi, who is eight almost nine

133
00:08:59,440 --> 00:09:02,880
Speaker 4: years old now, was suffering with not just one or

134
00:09:02,920 --> 00:09:05,640
Speaker 4: two warts, but I mean a significant outbreak of warts

135
00:09:05,679 --> 00:09:08,400
Speaker 4: all over his body, so significant it impacted his ability

136
00:09:08,440 --> 00:09:09,720
Speaker 4: to really function.

137
00:09:10,200 --> 00:09:10,520
Speaker 3: Yeah.

138
00:09:10,600 --> 00:09:13,280
Speaker 5: Yeah, he was having trouble even holding a pencil to right.

139
00:09:13,600 --> 00:09:16,440
Speaker 5: It was Tie's book Actually that got me thinking about it.

140
00:09:16,480 --> 00:09:17,319
Speaker 1: I'm not surprised.

141
00:09:17,480 --> 00:09:20,480
Speaker 4: It is an amazing immunal modulator, and so I can

142
00:09:20,520 --> 00:09:23,480
Speaker 4: see that it would work. And so at what point

143
00:09:23,640 --> 00:09:26,439
Speaker 4: did you see that there was actually improvement it's really

144
00:09:26,440 --> 00:09:27,120
Speaker 4: going to work.

145
00:09:27,280 --> 00:09:29,840
Speaker 5: Well, look, we really started to notice it around twelve weeks.

146
00:09:30,520 --> 00:09:34,200
Speaker 5: You can see these things actually getting smaller and smaller

147
00:09:34,240 --> 00:09:37,199
Speaker 5: and then going down to with just little red monks.

148
00:09:37,200 --> 00:09:39,439
Speaker 5: The whole things are gone, and we're talking about what's

149
00:09:39,520 --> 00:09:41,480
Speaker 5: you know one the size of the wanner. I thought, no,

150
00:09:41,600 --> 00:09:45,160
Speaker 5: way that's gonna Wow. It's just been miraculous to see

151
00:09:45,240 --> 00:09:46,559
Speaker 5: him get into a pair of shoes.

152
00:09:46,760 --> 00:09:48,719
Speaker 3: Yes, how wonderful.

153
00:09:48,880 --> 00:09:50,920
Speaker 5: It's great to see him so happy and yeah.

154
00:09:50,800 --> 00:09:52,600
Speaker 4: Competent, absolutely wonderful.

155
00:09:52,880 --> 00:09:54,760
Speaker 1: Friends that have seen it, that is blown away.

156
00:09:55,040 --> 00:09:56,079
Speaker 3: TI, this is awesome.

157
00:09:56,200 --> 00:09:57,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, this is awesome.

158
00:09:57,200 --> 00:10:01,079
Speaker 6: Another amazing story. Why we're talking about carnival call them

159
00:10:01,120 --> 00:10:04,120
Speaker 6: to awaken your immune system and protect yourself now called

160
00:10:04,160 --> 00:10:07,440
Speaker 6: one eight sixty six eight three six eighty seven thirty five.

161
00:10:07,800 --> 00:10:10,680
Speaker 6: That's one eight six six eight three six eighty seven

162
00:10:10,800 --> 00:10:14,560
Speaker 6: thirty five. Or visit Carnivora dot com c A r

163
00:10:14,760 --> 00:10:20,280
Speaker 6: n iv O r A Carnivora dot com.

164
00:10:19,040 --> 00:10:22,839
Speaker 2: And justin with the kind of technology we have today, Yes,

165
00:10:23,000 --> 00:10:25,440
Speaker 2: why can't we find these continents?

166
00:10:26,280 --> 00:10:30,800
Speaker 3: That's a good question. Some of them, like some of them,

167
00:10:30,840 --> 00:10:34,920
Speaker 3: we are doing a good job at So there's a

168
00:10:34,920 --> 00:10:41,480
Speaker 3: lot of recent scientific research being done around New Zealand.

169
00:10:42,720 --> 00:10:47,520
Speaker 3: And there was a continent basically like New Zealand itself

170
00:10:47,640 --> 00:10:51,800
Speaker 3: was a huge continent. And so they're doing dredging around

171
00:10:53,520 --> 00:10:57,560
Speaker 3: New Zealand and pulling up you know, doing scientific you

172
00:10:57,600 --> 00:11:02,839
Speaker 3: know work on you know, on that and so that

173
00:11:02,960 --> 00:11:07,880
Speaker 3: was that continent was called Zeelandia. And so I think

174
00:11:07,880 --> 00:11:10,880
Speaker 3: it's just a slow process, especially if you're doing like

175
00:11:10,960 --> 00:11:16,040
Speaker 3: the you know, hardcore science around it. But also if

176
00:11:16,280 --> 00:11:20,240
Speaker 3: you mean a lot of these people who believe in

177
00:11:20,280 --> 00:11:24,160
Speaker 3: the idea of Lamoria kind of trace it back through

178
00:11:25,559 --> 00:11:32,800
Speaker 3: links and shared histories and shared archaeological sites around the

179
00:11:33,200 --> 00:11:39,440
Speaker 3: say the South Pacific or the Pacific Islanders, and like

180
00:11:39,600 --> 00:11:43,280
Speaker 3: you know, the Mayan cultures or the Aztec cultures and

181
00:11:43,440 --> 00:11:46,680
Speaker 3: in South and Latin America. So they're doing a lot

182
00:11:46,800 --> 00:11:52,800
Speaker 3: of kind of like comparing cultures and comparing symbology from

183
00:11:52,840 --> 00:11:58,640
Speaker 3: those places and then making those jumps and leaps and saying, oh,

184
00:11:58,760 --> 00:12:03,360
Speaker 3: there must have been a connecting force that allowed these

185
00:12:03,400 --> 00:12:07,079
Speaker 3: similar ideas to spread, and that that had to happen

186
00:12:07,160 --> 00:12:09,720
Speaker 3: on a continent like Lamoria.

187
00:12:10,120 --> 00:12:12,960
Speaker 2: Now, the deepest point in the Indian Ocean is about

188
00:12:13,000 --> 00:12:17,600
Speaker 2: twenty four thousand feet. That's almost five miles. That's pretty deep,

189
00:12:17,679 --> 00:12:18,120
Speaker 2: isn't that.

190
00:12:18,520 --> 00:12:21,160
Speaker 3: Oh Yeah, that's it's it's it's down there. It's down there.

191
00:12:21,440 --> 00:12:25,800
Speaker 3: And also, like you know, there's some still some islands

192
00:12:25,840 --> 00:12:30,520
Speaker 3: out there. Madagascar itself is technically a mini continent. It's

193
00:12:31,000 --> 00:12:37,559
Speaker 3: a piece of continental shelf itself. So and there's like suspected,

194
00:12:37,720 --> 00:12:41,880
Speaker 3: like like the the idea around the land bridge connecting

195
00:12:42,000 --> 00:12:47,240
Speaker 3: let's say, Africa to Madagascar is one of the leading

196
00:12:47,240 --> 00:12:54,400
Speaker 3: ones still like and there's still islands that go from

197
00:12:55,559 --> 00:12:58,800
Speaker 3: that go from but from Madagascar like up to India,

198
00:12:58,880 --> 00:13:02,920
Speaker 3: there's there's islands and they're suspected you know, pieces of

199
00:13:03,080 --> 00:13:07,080
Speaker 3: continent around there as well too. So there's a lot

200
00:13:07,120 --> 00:13:12,640
Speaker 3: of different ideas about where the continent could have gone

201
00:13:12,720 --> 00:13:17,319
Speaker 3: to and and how it still might you know, appear

202
00:13:17,600 --> 00:13:18,640
Speaker 3: in modern times too.

203
00:13:19,160 --> 00:13:23,120
Speaker 2: How could land masses such as Atlantis, Lemuria, and mew

204
00:13:24,520 --> 00:13:28,000
Speaker 2: All not be there and simply be the figment of

205
00:13:28,040 --> 00:13:31,040
Speaker 2: somebody's imagination. There's got to be some truth to it.

206
00:13:31,679 --> 00:13:39,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's especially with Atlantis, because that has a little

207
00:13:39,440 --> 00:13:42,480
Speaker 3: bit just because it just pops up and Plato when

208
00:13:42,480 --> 00:13:47,480
Speaker 3: to play those dialogues, and it seemed to have caught

209
00:13:47,480 --> 00:13:52,160
Speaker 3: a nerve, especially you know today, it's it's it's pretty

210
00:13:52,160 --> 00:13:57,520
Speaker 3: wide widely known idea and back but also back in

211
00:13:57,679 --> 00:14:00,680
Speaker 3: you know Plato's day and the generations at for him,

212
00:14:01,040 --> 00:14:04,400
Speaker 3: a lot of the thinkers at that time took up

213
00:14:04,400 --> 00:14:08,600
Speaker 3: that idea as well, and and you know played along

214
00:14:08,640 --> 00:14:12,280
Speaker 3: with it, like Aristotle was talking about a kind of

215
00:14:12,320 --> 00:14:17,559
Speaker 3: Atlantis like lost continent as well. So you know, where

216
00:14:17,600 --> 00:14:21,840
Speaker 3: there's smoke, there's fire sometimes, and so who's to say

217
00:14:23,080 --> 00:14:26,800
Speaker 3: that there wasn't a lost island or something like that

218
00:14:26,800 --> 00:14:31,080
Speaker 3: that they got destroyed in a in an actual you know,

219
00:14:31,200 --> 00:14:36,800
Speaker 3: earthquake or volcanic eruption or some kind of massive natural disaster.

220
00:14:37,400 --> 00:14:39,480
Speaker 2: Do you think if it were there, they might have

221
00:14:39,520 --> 00:14:42,480
Speaker 2: had incredible technology, the ability to fly.

222
00:14:45,520 --> 00:14:50,920
Speaker 3: I seriously doubt it, especially in Atlantis's time or Lemoya's time,

223
00:14:51,240 --> 00:14:57,960
Speaker 3: both of those, just because there's especially with Atlantis, if

224
00:14:58,000 --> 00:15:02,440
Speaker 3: you read the original versus from Plato, you know, it

225
00:15:02,480 --> 00:15:05,320
Speaker 3: was a civilization that was going hand in hand with

226
00:15:08,080 --> 00:15:10,840
Speaker 3: the Greek civilization at that time as well, and so

227
00:15:10,920 --> 00:15:16,240
Speaker 3: they were basically competitors on the stage and so and

228
00:15:16,000 --> 00:15:22,720
Speaker 3: he makes no reference to you know, you know, astronomical

229
00:15:23,160 --> 00:15:28,680
Speaker 3: you know, technologies, or or you know, special things going

230
00:15:28,720 --> 00:15:32,720
Speaker 3: on there other than it being the birthplace of you know,

231
00:15:33,160 --> 00:15:34,960
Speaker 3: coming from the gods themselves.

232
00:15:35,480 --> 00:15:38,880
Speaker 2: Now Plato talked about Atlantis, did he talk about Lemuria

233
00:15:39,120 --> 00:15:40,720
Speaker 2: or Mew No.

234
00:15:40,720 --> 00:15:44,120
Speaker 3: No he did not. He didn't. No, it was just

235
00:15:44,400 --> 00:15:47,400
Speaker 3: like I said, it was just first started in the

236
00:15:47,800 --> 00:15:52,960
Speaker 3: eighteen sixties and starting around the the migration of Lemurs.

237
00:15:53,080 --> 00:15:55,120
Speaker 3: So that's what's kind of how it got its name

238
00:15:55,440 --> 00:15:56,480
Speaker 3: as Lemoria.

239
00:15:56,640 --> 00:15:57,840
Speaker 2: What does your gut tell you?

240
00:15:58,880 --> 00:16:04,280
Speaker 3: My gut tells me that there probably was maybe a

241
00:16:04,480 --> 00:16:12,240
Speaker 3: larger continental, larger continental force out there in the Pacific

242
00:16:12,280 --> 00:16:14,880
Speaker 3: Ocean somewhere, if it was in the more southern like

243
00:16:15,000 --> 00:16:20,720
Speaker 3: in in and around New Zealand. But I seriously doubt

244
00:16:20,800 --> 00:16:24,360
Speaker 3: there was an advanced, you know, technological society going on

245
00:16:24,440 --> 00:16:26,120
Speaker 3: there and living and thriving.

246
00:16:27,760 --> 00:16:29,680
Speaker 2: And how do you think it's sank? What's your gonna

247
00:16:29,680 --> 00:16:30,440
Speaker 2: tell you there?

248
00:16:31,400 --> 00:16:33,960
Speaker 3: I think it's just time, just lots and lots of time,

249
00:16:36,200 --> 00:16:37,920
Speaker 3: just asteroid of flood.

250
00:16:39,040 --> 00:16:39,240
Speaker 2: Yeah.

251
00:16:39,240 --> 00:16:45,280
Speaker 3: I think it's just the general like the how how

252
00:16:45,360 --> 00:16:51,320
Speaker 3: the continental shelf is formed and the it sits on

253
00:16:51,400 --> 00:16:55,280
Speaker 3: this thin membrane basically, and that that membrane thinned out

254
00:16:55,360 --> 00:16:58,640
Speaker 3: so much that the continent itself broke up and just

255
00:16:59,320 --> 00:17:01,680
Speaker 3: gradually disappeared into the ocean.

256
00:17:02,080 --> 00:17:03,120
Speaker 2: Or it might have been quick.

257
00:17:03,840 --> 00:17:04,800
Speaker 3: It could have been very quick.

258
00:17:04,880 --> 00:17:08,720
Speaker 2: Yes, could have been a disaster to people who were there.

259
00:17:09,280 --> 00:17:13,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I mean, I mean you get these flood

260
00:17:13,480 --> 00:17:17,520
Speaker 3: stories all around the world, and so they have to

261
00:17:17,560 --> 00:17:20,880
Speaker 3: come from somewhere like, it's not it's no coincidence that

262
00:17:21,080 --> 00:17:25,600
Speaker 3: you know, there's you know, biblical flood stories, there's you know,

263
00:17:25,680 --> 00:17:29,280
Speaker 3: Asian flood stories, there's specific islander flood stories, there's you know,

264
00:17:29,359 --> 00:17:34,439
Speaker 3: American flood stories. So there definitely could have could have

265
00:17:34,480 --> 00:17:38,520
Speaker 3: happened there on, you know, the Lemoria of the Pacific.

266
00:17:38,400 --> 00:17:41,600
Speaker 2: After the break justin you're taking us to northern California

267
00:17:41,680 --> 00:17:44,159
Speaker 2: to talk about Marlin Shasta. But do you think that

268
00:17:44,240 --> 00:17:49,680
Speaker 2: there's possibilities that some Limurians went to Mount chest don't you?

269
00:17:49,760 --> 00:17:49,920
Speaker 3: Oh?

270
00:17:50,040 --> 00:17:54,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, definitely plastic They went all over the place.

271
00:17:54,720 --> 00:17:58,000
Speaker 3: They get around, man, don't worry. They they know what

272
00:17:58,040 --> 00:17:58,800
Speaker 3: they know where to go.

273
00:18:01,160 --> 00:18:04,560
Speaker 2: Would Atlanta should have gone down before Muriel?

274
00:18:05,520 --> 00:18:08,400
Speaker 3: No, it always comes afterwards, That's the that's the interesting thing.

275
00:18:08,440 --> 00:18:14,960
Speaker 3: It's always like a timeline of Lamoria coming first, Lamoria

276
00:18:15,000 --> 00:18:18,920
Speaker 3: gets destroyed for whatever reason, and then some Lamorians escaping

277
00:18:19,119 --> 00:18:23,520
Speaker 3: to Atlantis. And there's even some stories about there's a

278
00:18:23,560 --> 00:18:30,080
Speaker 3: guy named uh doctor Doriel. Doriel had an idea that

279
00:18:30,560 --> 00:18:35,800
Speaker 3: there was a war between Lamoria and Atlantis and Atlantis won,

280
00:18:36,600 --> 00:18:44,120
Speaker 3: and so they basically all the Lamorian prisoners of war,

281
00:18:44,240 --> 00:18:49,679
Speaker 3: they kind of imprisoned them in underground worlds, and they

282
00:18:49,960 --> 00:18:54,280
Speaker 3: stationed the guards, the Atlantean guards, at Mount Shasta in

283
00:18:54,320 --> 00:18:58,920
Speaker 3: northern California, and they were there to kind of oversee

284
00:18:59,000 --> 00:19:01,840
Speaker 3: the their little Maria im prisoners prisoners. So what people

285
00:19:01,920 --> 00:19:04,359
Speaker 3: were seeing on Mount Chaster there weren't really Limorians. They

286
00:19:04,359 --> 00:19:10,200
Speaker 3: were the Atlantean guards protecting the Liamorian prisoners.

287
00:19:10,800 --> 00:19:14,080
Speaker 1: Listen to more Coast to Coast AM every weeknight at

288
00:19:14,080 --> 00:19:17,359
Speaker 1: one am Eastern and go to Coast to coastam dot

289
00:19:17,359 --> 00:19:18,240
Speaker 1: com for more