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<v Speaker 1>Of the Law and Order franchises. SVU is considered especially watchable.

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<v Speaker 2>We are the amateur detectives who kind of investigate the

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<v Speaker 2>vicious felonies. These episodes are based on. These are our stories.

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<v Speaker 2>Done done Yay, that's messed up an SVU podcast.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm Leeza Trigger and I'm Kara Klank. We're doing SVU recapping.

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<v Speaker 3>We're doing true crimes. Sometimes we're doing a guest but

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<v Speaker 3>we're chatting right now. Happy Thanksgiving Week to all who celebrate.

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<v Speaker 3>Very thankful for all of you listeners, all of you tommies.

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<v Speaker 1>Are we into it? Are we tommies? Are we tommies? Listen?

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<v Speaker 2>I bought stuffing flavoredcorn from Trader Joe's.

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<v Speaker 3>I just saw it today. I literally laid eyes on

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<v Speaker 3>it forty five minutes ago.

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<v Speaker 2>I left the whole bag at the airport.

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<v Speaker 1>It was good.

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<v Speaker 3>No, I left the bag. Oh, I thought, I hate

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<v Speaker 3>the whole bag. I left the bag. I oh it

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<v Speaker 3>was bad. Yeah, I hated it.

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<v Speaker 2>But you know, it's hard not to like try something

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<v Speaker 2>so goofy they and if the food scientists I do.

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<v Speaker 1>I do want to give a heads up to everyone.

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<v Speaker 2>I did have a little Manhattan Monday out of the Blue.

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<v Speaker 2>I had seven Manhattans last night. I would say what

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<v Speaker 2>the didn't even mean to didn't even mean too truly,

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<v Speaker 2>was thinking, I'm like, I'm just gonna do my spot

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<v Speaker 2>and leave. Like I was really tired. I was like,

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<v Speaker 2>I just need to do my spot and leave. And

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<v Speaker 2>my spot's not until twelve forty. But like there was

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<v Speaker 2>a drop but whatever, I was later and so then

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<v Speaker 2>I was left at the table with someone I hate.

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<v Speaker 1>So I was like, oh, take a Manhattan.

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<v Speaker 2>And then I got a drowned them out. I like,

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<v Speaker 2>can't deal with this. And then I was like, well,

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<v Speaker 2>let's just have two and to get a buzz on.

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<v Speaker 2>And then I get and I obviously so I argued

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<v Speaker 2>with a man hardcore last night. Fucking fought this at

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<v Speaker 2>like I slammed the sign in front of his face

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<v Speaker 2>and I'm like, get the fuck out of this table.

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<v Speaker 1>It's for comics.

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<v Speaker 2>And he goes, I'll get You'll get kicked out of

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<v Speaker 2>here before me. I go, what, Like, are you out

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<v Speaker 2>of your mind? He's like the owner's best friend. I go,

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<v Speaker 2>are you fucking out of your mind? I go He's like,

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<v Speaker 2>you're trying to kick me out. I go no, But

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<v Speaker 2>you can't be on this table if you're gonna be disrespectful.

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<v Speaker 2>I already told you twice not to fucking speak to

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<v Speaker 2>me like that. And if you want to sit at

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<v Speaker 2>this table, you're gonna be polite or you get the

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<v Speaker 2>fuck out of here because you're not a comic.

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<v Speaker 1>Well guess who he is.

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<v Speaker 2>So I'm fighting and I'm now like eight man, like

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<v Speaker 2>I'm having the time. But then all of this, all

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<v Speaker 2>of the servers, all the bartenders, I get messages from

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<v Speaker 2>one going I fucking hate him, get him? You ate

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<v Speaker 2>that shit up. People are I'm going downstairs. Servers are

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<v Speaker 2>hugging me and high fiving me. Go people they're like,

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<v Speaker 2>we hate him. They go thank you so much, like

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<v Speaker 2>everyone can't because they hate him because he's a bad person.

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<v Speaker 2>But I don't know who he is, but I obviously

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<v Speaker 2>know he's smart, like he has a he knows a lot,

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<v Speaker 2>So I go bro for someone that knows a lot.

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<v Speaker 2>Your energy should be teaching, not condescending. You being shocked.

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<v Speaker 2>People don't know shit, like I'm always open to like

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<v Speaker 2>figuring stuff out, But you're condescending and crazy.

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<v Speaker 1>Stop calling me ridiculous. He said it was naive.

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<v Speaker 2>I was like whatever, he testified against reparations. He has

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<v Speaker 2>a black man who testified in Congress against reparations. That's

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<v Speaker 2>why I was fighting. So so I'm fighting, no idea

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<v Speaker 2>who this motherfucker is. And then the manager texts me

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<v Speaker 2>this and I start cackling. I start cat I could

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<v Speaker 2>like at three am. She sends it to me. It

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<v Speaker 2>was a late night. So I'm now like, this makes

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<v Speaker 2>so much sense. This guy is fucking crazy, but he

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<v Speaker 2>just was. So he was a twerp. He was a

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<v Speaker 2>twarp and he's friends with the owner, and he thought

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<v Speaker 2>he could swing his dick. And so I finally stood

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<v Speaker 2>up and I was like, you're only acting like this

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<v Speaker 2>because you're friends with the owner. I go, you would

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<v Speaker 2>never have these fucking balls outside of here. I'm like,

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<v Speaker 2>you fucked with the wrong Like I went off, but

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<v Speaker 2>I'm so hungover today. I definitely puked. I barely made

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<v Speaker 2>it outside. I I'm like hanging on by a thread

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<v Speaker 2>for sure.

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<v Speaker 1>Like I bought electro lit it's terrible. I should have. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I get that pedia light.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah I didn't think it was that bad, Like I

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<v Speaker 2>didn't think it was gonna taste bad. I just love raid,

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<v Speaker 2>and I kind of am like disappointed, but whatever.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, people say pedia light is the real flow of

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<v Speaker 3>Electrolyte said it's really bad, Like I don't think it

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<v Speaker 3>tastes good.

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<v Speaker 1>But people like the pops, the frozen pops. Those are

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<v Speaker 1>supposed to be good too, frozen.

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<v Speaker 3>Wow, I can't believe you just got Manhattan up and

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<v Speaker 3>went I'm.

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<v Speaker 2>Gonna call it Manhattan Monday. But then happen Monday. But

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<v Speaker 2>then like the bartenders are just making me drinks because

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<v Speaker 2>everyone was so happy. I yelled at this guy that

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<v Speaker 2>they've hated because obviously he tips back like he's bad,

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<v Speaker 2>Like he's bad juju. And it reminds me of a situation.

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<v Speaker 2>It reminds me of Real Housewives of New York. It's

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<v Speaker 2>very Ramona Codd where it's like I'm gonna find a

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<v Speaker 2>person that agrees with me that I'm going to show off,

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<v Speaker 2>like this is my black friend who has the same

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<v Speaker 2>views as me, so look at that and parading him around,

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<v Speaker 2>but like I don't know, obviously he's he is very

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<v Speaker 2>he knows a lot.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I just come up.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, but then I brought up obviously my castration because

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<v Speaker 2>then I was like being crazy, right, and I go listen.

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<v Speaker 2>I think for the safety of humanity, men should not

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<v Speaker 2>be let out of the home without an escort. I go,

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<v Speaker 2>men should be chemically castrated.

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<v Speaker 1>I go.

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<v Speaker 2>At the end of the day, ninety plus percent of

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<v Speaker 2>violent crimes are about you guys. So like, if we're

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<v Speaker 2>talking logic, you should all be castrated out of here

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<v Speaker 2>first offense.

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<v Speaker 1>And he was like, well, blah blah blah. I go, no,

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<v Speaker 1>it's what I believe.

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<v Speaker 2>Motherfucker.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know what to tell you. I don't care.

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<v Speaker 1>He's like, what if I told you?

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<v Speaker 2>I go, Obviously there's racial implications, false accusation. Like I'm like,

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<v Speaker 2>there's a lot of stuff, but I think it's worth

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<v Speaker 2>it to keep people safe. I'm okay sacrificing a few,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, but whatever, I was acting crazy at this point. Well,

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<v Speaker 2>I looked at guy up and he's also a hobbyist rapper.

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<v Speaker 2>No it says it says hobbyist rapper. So well, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>everyone's like he's such a talented musician. I go, he's

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<v Speaker 2>a swarp. He's a swarp. Don't talk to me. I

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<v Speaker 2>fucking talk to me, motherfucker. I'm it's Manhattan Monday. I

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<v Speaker 2>will come at you. But I want to have a

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<v Speaker 2>nice night. It was it was actually it was Chay

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<v Speaker 2>and his assistant Keana, and they're like a good hand.

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<v Speaker 2>So I was like, it's gonna be a peaceful night.

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<v Speaker 2>I'll have a couple, get a little buzz. I'm like

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<v Speaker 2>standing over this man like, oh my god, I got

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<v Speaker 2>the reparation news. I like could because I brought it up.

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<v Speaker 2>I basically was saying, the South never paid. I go,

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<v Speaker 2>the South was never punished for the war, Like they

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<v Speaker 2>were never punished. And he was like, you're ridiculous. You're

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<v Speaker 2>an idiot. Like he was, just like, you're an idiot.

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<v Speaker 2>They burned down Atlanta. I go, at the end of

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<v Speaker 2>the day, these fuckers got to keep their money, and

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<v Speaker 2>all the people that were enslaved should have gotten the money.

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<v Speaker 2>All those people should have been robbed, taken everything. The

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<v Speaker 2>fact there's old money that goes back to like slave

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<v Speaker 2>owning people is disgusting. I go, all of that money

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<v Speaker 2>should be takeing. They should have been punished. And he

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<v Speaker 2>kept saying that I was stupid and crazy for that, and.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, well, I bet he's gonna think twice about sitting

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<v Speaker 3>at that comic table.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know, but people were like, I can't believe

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<v Speaker 2>you did that. I go listen. I wasn't planning on

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<v Speaker 2>doing it.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you think the owner's gonna be mad at you?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, I'm gonna the next time I see him, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>gonna go, your friend is terrible.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I go.

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<v Speaker 2>Your friend is out of line where comics were at

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<v Speaker 2>fucking work, and I'm not gonna be talked to in

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<v Speaker 2>a way that I don't like at my table. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>gonna tell him to go talk to his friend. No,

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<v Speaker 2>he come get your boy. He doesn't like, he doesn't

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<v Speaker 2>get like I don't have to use anyone to get

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<v Speaker 2>where I am. Yeh, I this is my job and

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<v Speaker 2>I've been here for close to eleven years now, So

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<v Speaker 2>motherfucker you think I don't have to play games. Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>So you trying to act like you're gonna get me

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<v Speaker 2>kicked out here because you get comped because you know

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<v Speaker 2>the owner. I will talk to him. I like, this

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<v Speaker 2>is my fucking job. Like I don't know. I feel

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<v Speaker 2>like I am a chill, calm girl, but I do

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<v Speaker 2>get riled obviously. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>And seven plus Manhattans does not help at all. That doesn't,

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<v Speaker 3>it doesn't. That'sn't really a ball. You know, it doesn't

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<v Speaker 3>really soothe anything for anybody. I would say, unless it's

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<v Speaker 3>gonna put you out, like seven Manhattans would put me

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<v Speaker 3>in a coma, like I would.

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<v Speaker 2>Be in another Manhattan Monday. No, I've been drinking too much.

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<v Speaker 2>I also, I'm gonna say one more long thing and

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<v Speaker 2>then I'll shut up and you'll fill me in on

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<v Speaker 2>everything that you have to say. You know, it was

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<v Speaker 2>Tricksy and Katia a few weeks before I fell into

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<v Speaker 2>another YouTube hole. I've watched like probably fifty episodes of

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<v Speaker 2>this thing.

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<v Speaker 1>It's called lad Bible, which sounds douchey, but yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a series called Minutes with and it's basically like

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<v Speaker 2>straight up face interviews of people that just harrowing stories.

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<v Speaker 2>So I survived the Chinese mafia, I was human trafficked,

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<v Speaker 2>I escaped Ted Bundy. And then it's also like crime

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<v Speaker 2>scene cleaner, and it's not the crime scene like CSU.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like, after all the evidence is taken, she goes

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<v Speaker 2>in and cleans the mess so the families can go back,

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<v Speaker 2>and so talking to her was wild. Then it's like

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of detectives and my favorite Criminologists was part

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<v Speaker 2>of it.

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<v Speaker 1>So one of them escaped, the Yorkshire Ripper.

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<v Speaker 2>She was clubbed by him and like someone came on

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<v Speaker 2>the street and like the cops wouldn't help her and

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<v Speaker 2>didn't give a fuck, and she talks about it. And

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<v Speaker 2>then the also someone that lived with Fred and Rose

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<v Speaker 2>West remember that they were like the couple that like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>the daughter she lived in that apartment and was like

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<v Speaker 2>she told them day of like I'm out of here.

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<v Speaker 2>She goes, I knew if I told him earlier, I'd

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<v Speaker 2>get killed. And then her friend got killed was one

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<v Speaker 2>of the people. She's like, I wish I helped my friend.

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<v Speaker 2>But she was like a teenager. She was only sixteen.

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<v Speaker 2>I was a hit man for the cartel. It's a

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<v Speaker 2>guy who was working at Rikers and he really he's

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<v Speaker 2>like all integrity and he got fucking wrapped up and

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<v Speaker 2>started selling drugs.

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<v Speaker 1>But it was all a set up.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, job.

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<v Speaker 1>But it's like an incredible series.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh I didn't I knew about Cambodia, like in uh theory,

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<v Speaker 2>but like a woman who survived the Cambodian like the

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<v Speaker 2>takeover in the seventies, like the kad Yes, it.

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<v Speaker 1>Was fucked up.

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<v Speaker 2>The things she was saying, I mean it's fuck, it's

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<v Speaker 2>really fucked up stuff. Oh, I survived ninety three days

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<v Speaker 2>with Somali pirates. I mean I was like really in

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<v Speaker 2>like a hole of I think I saw the one

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<v Speaker 2>of jentlem as Cavage. There's Cavage's daughter. Yeah, no, I

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<v Speaker 2>think it was nice. It's her other niece niece. But

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<v Speaker 2>you know how everyone thinks the wife is murdered. She goes, no,

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<v Speaker 2>she did something wrong. Like I could see her just

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<v Speaker 2>being like put to work in servitude in private, and

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<v Speaker 2>that's not something that's like not nore, like that's not

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<v Speaker 2>rare for scientific like drowned upon it all.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, oh, kind of crazy.

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<v Speaker 2>But I've really enjoyed them. And it's people who nine years.

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<v Speaker 2>This cocaine smuggler who's really fucking cool, but he served

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<v Speaker 2>nine years in a prison in Ecuador. But the trauma

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<v Speaker 2>these I don't know, it's fucked. And all of them

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<v Speaker 2>had bad parents. At the end of the day, they

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<v Speaker 2>all had bad parents. Like the hitman. He watched his

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<v Speaker 2>dad rapist sister and shot his dad, and the dad

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<v Speaker 2>served twenty three years, but he went to juvie, became

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<v Speaker 2>a full boone criminal and then killed over seventy people

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<v Speaker 2>for the cartel. One of them is Ted Bundy. Tried

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<v Speaker 2>to kill me. Yeah, I watched that one. Fuck she

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<v Speaker 2>was in the sorority house and he kills or the

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<v Speaker 2>other sisters. One escaped the Mumbai terrorist attacks, like in

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<v Speaker 2>the hotel.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, people like.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm usually pretty grateful for life, but it definitely makes

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<v Speaker 2>you uh, oh I survived an honor killing. Wow, Like

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<v Speaker 2>if you.

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<v Speaker 1>Guys want you guys want to feel extra grateful.

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<v Speaker 3>This Thanksgiving such a good series to check out that

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<v Speaker 3>you've never been on a boat with Somali pirates.

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<v Speaker 1>Geez.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, oh my wild the like human capacity to start. Oh,

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<v Speaker 2>but a lot of it is like like people that

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<v Speaker 2>work within organizations that stop human trafficking and they talk

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<v Speaker 2>about tracking these people as well. But I watched one

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<v Speaker 2>and it was a guy who he helps people get

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<v Speaker 2>off death row and he's had over like four hundred clients.

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<v Speaker 2>He's got four hundred people off death row, but six

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<v Speaker 2>have been killed and he goes to their executions and

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<v Speaker 2>it was really fucked up, but he went to and

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<v Speaker 2>then multiple of the people that were murdered by the

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<v Speaker 2>state were found innocent later, Like you know, just like

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<v Speaker 2>how many innocent people, and we're anti death penalty. And

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<v Speaker 2>I and while I was fighting this guy, I did say,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm like, things are complicated. I go because I'm against

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<v Speaker 2>the death penalty, but I am for chemical castration. I go.

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<v Speaker 1>Life's wild. I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>But he went to Abu Grabe and he said he

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<v Speaker 2>got like ninety percent of the people out of there

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<v Speaker 2>because none of them are terrorists. There was like a

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<v Speaker 2>kid like the translations were off, Like he truly went

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<v Speaker 2>there and got like ninety percent of the people out.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my god, but it was not real.

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<v Speaker 2>He goes, we overestimate their accuracy, like these people suck.

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<v Speaker 2>And the horrible story was like they hated this one

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<v Speaker 2>person they were putting to death, so they didn't shave

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<v Speaker 2>him right, so he caught on fire in the electric chair.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh my god, it's not that fucked up. Ough, But

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<v Speaker 2>this guy was smart and cool. But he said the

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<v Speaker 2>innocent clients are more annoying, and they make mistakes because

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<v Speaker 2>like a guilty person wants to get off, but an

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<v Speaker 2>innocent person in their mind, they're like, well I can't

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<v Speaker 2>be convicted. I didn't do it, So they make stupid

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<v Speaker 2>mistakes and choices with arrogance of being innocent and then

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<v Speaker 2>they get convicted and they can't even believe it. So

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't I thought about that. Yeah, that's crazy. The

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<v Speaker 2>other horrifying thing, the Cambodia story, the like, what are

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<v Speaker 2>the guys, what are the bad guys names? The Khmer Rouge. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>they would say. They're saying, was like, we gain nothing

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<v Speaker 2>from killing you, and we gain nothing from keeping you alive.

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<v Speaker 2>We're Nihilis Slabowski. We believe in nothing. Sickos. That's so

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<v Speaker 2>sick sickos. Like, yeah, my god, your life just changes

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<v Speaker 2>in a day staying alive. I mean, I don't know why.

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, I don't know why I watched. But

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<v Speaker 2>then there's light ones that are like, I manage a brothel.

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<v Speaker 2>I love it, So that's good. There's like a sixty

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<v Speaker 2>plus year old woman who's dominatrix and that was like

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<v Speaker 2>fun and she you know her like slave dore for

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<v Speaker 2>that day.

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<v Speaker 3>And uh okay wait, so speaking of speaking of sex work,

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<v Speaker 3>So I don't know if you've seen this guy who's

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<v Speaker 3>like a democrat and he's running for something in Texas.

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<v Speaker 3>His name's James Tallerico. I believe Okay, let me just

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<v Speaker 3>you've probably seen him because he's like very young and

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<v Speaker 3>he looks like a Bible boy with his hair, but

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<v Speaker 3>he is like a progressive Christian, like he is running

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<v Speaker 3>for he's running like on like progressive values. But he's

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<v Speaker 3>also like you're all misreading the Bible. I so, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>I get my axios, like every day, I get like

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<v Speaker 3>this email that has like ten items, and they're supposed

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<v Speaker 3>to be pretty middle of the road. In fact, sometimes

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<v Speaker 3>I'm like, stop sucking the Republicans dick so much, like

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<v Speaker 3>they're really like down the middle. They send this thing

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<v Speaker 3>out over the weekend with one of the items was

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<v Speaker 3>that big news alert James Tallerico, who's like, who's a

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<v Speaker 3>state a Texas state representative who I.

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<v Speaker 1>Believe is running for Senate.

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<v Speaker 3>There follows a few people on only fans on Instagram

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<v Speaker 3>who are OnlyFans models follows them and that's it. There's

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<v Speaker 3>no proof that he patronizes any accounts. He follows like

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<v Speaker 3>one hundred that people, and a few of them happened

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<v Speaker 3>to be porn actors and only fans people.

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<v Speaker 1>And I wrote back.

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<v Speaker 3>And I was like, is this fucking news? Like I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>I didn't swear, but I was like, is this news

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<v Speaker 3>that a political like a politician follows sex workers?

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<v Speaker 1>Like what are you? Why are you making this a

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<v Speaker 1>big deal? Like and then I couldn't.

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<v Speaker 3>You could barely find anybody talking about it on Twitter

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<v Speaker 3>or anything, but a few people like what a what

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<v Speaker 3>a shot in the fucking dark that he's not allowed

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<v Speaker 3>to follow OnlyFans models. That's the scandal. We're really trying

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<v Speaker 3>too hard now when there's fucking pedophiles. I mean, what

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<v Speaker 3>the Democrat did? Fuck the motherfucker Dick Durbin will not

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<v Speaker 3>answer the phone.

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<v Speaker 2>That's my Illinois guy, call fuck yourself were I'm disgusting, disgusted,

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<v Speaker 2>It's disgusting, fucking spineless, gross motherfuckers. We are facing full

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<v Speaker 2>authoritative fascism, Like what are we talking about?

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<v Speaker 3>My health assurance is going up already, and it's already exorbitant,

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<v Speaker 3>and it's going up almost four hundred dollars, and I'm

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<v Speaker 3>just like, and I know that that's like, that's nothing

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<v Speaker 3>compared to what's happening to some other people. So other

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<v Speaker 3>people are going from like four hundred to three thousand,

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<v Speaker 3>like so I can't even So I'm like considering myself

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<v Speaker 3>lucky that the government wants a quarter of my earnings

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<v Speaker 3>to pay They want.

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<v Speaker 1>A quarter of what I make to have health insurance.

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<v Speaker 1>It's so gross.

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<v Speaker 3>This place is hell yeah and hot off the victory

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<v Speaker 3>like of course, like we have this great Tuesday of

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<v Speaker 3>all these good.

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<v Speaker 1>Weights off with their heads. That's how I wait their heads.

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<v Speaker 2>I also realized that the poker night was a Manhattan

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<v Speaker 2>night too, and maybe I should revisit what I'm doing with.

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<v Speaker 1>My free time.

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<v Speaker 3>Manhattans are like, yeah, you're tequila or something.

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<v Speaker 1>They're like they're doing something to you. It's just so good.

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<v Speaker 1>I want to shout out.

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<v Speaker 3>Our Lois Louise Louis Lewis shirt that we have up

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<v Speaker 3>in the Mert shop. You can go to you can

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<v Speaker 3>go to the exactly right website, but you can also

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<v Speaker 3>our shop link if you want to get the TMU

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<v Speaker 3>Tommy in your Life a little.

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<v Speaker 1>Gift for Christmas.

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<v Speaker 3>We also have our little Christmas ornament up there for

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<v Speaker 3>your tree.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm wearing r That's Messed Up Purple sweatcher right now,

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<v Speaker 2>which I'm gonna wear on Friday because it's Ruby Bridge's

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<v Speaker 2>Walk to school where we celebrate the first little girl

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<v Speaker 2>to go to an all white school and defy segregation laws.

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<v Speaker 1>And she's a fucking civil rights hero. And I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 1>wear my purple TMU sweatshirt.

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<v Speaker 2>And I don't think she's even say no.

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<v Speaker 3>She's like no, she's fully alive and kicking Ruby Bridge. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>alive and kicking. It's so fucked. But yeah, we live

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<v Speaker 3>in a post racist society. What are you talking about?

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<v Speaker 3>A live Literally, she's on Instagram. Okay, should we get

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<v Speaker 3>going today's episode? Happy Thanksgiving, gobble gobble to everybody. I

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<v Speaker 3>hope you guys are all stocking up on edibles or

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<v Speaker 3>whatever you need to get through some possibly tough conversations

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<v Speaker 3>with your family this season.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm staying away from them.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm gonna be here in LA. But let's get to

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<v Speaker 3>today's episode. A true classic, I think I think this

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<v Speaker 3>episode coming up is a true classic.

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<v Speaker 1>It's also like unhinged.

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<v Speaker 2>I would say it's an unhinged, completely off the rails.

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<v Speaker 2>We are doing the episode blast Perfect Name season seven,

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<v Speaker 2>Name One Word, Give It to Us, Episode twelve, two

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<v Speaker 2>thousand and six, and it's a fun day at the

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<v Speaker 2>end of school. Two girls are talking about boogers, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>and then the crossing guard goes gross. I still remember

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<v Speaker 2>my childhood crossing guard's name, Like I loved my crossing

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<v Speaker 2>guard Pat.

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<v Speaker 1>That's amazing.

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<v Speaker 3>I didn't have a crossing guard, but we had a

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<v Speaker 3>janitor with who was missing a thumb named Lou, and

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<v Speaker 3>he was like my favorite person in the world.

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<v Speaker 2>Like we were all obsessed with Lou.

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<v Speaker 3>Like if you were walking the hallways like feeling upset,

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<v Speaker 3>Lou would be like, what's going on and like talk

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<v Speaker 3>to you. It was truly like a from a TV show,

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<v Speaker 3>like a character that you're like, really the janitor's.

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<v Speaker 1>Best friends with all the kids.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, I know, I gotta I gotta start watching Abba again.

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<v Speaker 1>I want to.

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<v Speaker 2>I like saw clips today on my phone and I went, wait,

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<v Speaker 2>I love the show.

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<v Speaker 1>I ran out of the show.

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<v Speaker 3>I just I got to the point where there were

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<v Speaker 3>like twenty five, like forty episodes on my DVR, and

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<v Speaker 3>I got too overwhelmed and I deleted all of them

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<v Speaker 3>because I was like, I mean, I can just go

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<v Speaker 3>screaming stream at any time, but I'm not.

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<v Speaker 2>I love it.

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<v Speaker 1>It's such a great show.

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<v Speaker 2>I love the kids.

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<v Speaker 1>I got these kids.

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<v Speaker 2>So yeah, it's a girl, a burnette with a hat

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<v Speaker 2>and then a blonde, a blonde with a headband and

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<v Speaker 2>a pink coat. So there's a puppy and the hat

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<v Speaker 2>girl follows the puppy. The blonde like, I'm not gonna

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<v Speaker 2>go follow the puppy, and then the music gets really dramatic.

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<v Speaker 2>The girl's like opening this crazy door in an alley

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<v Speaker 2>to try to find the dog. But then we hear

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<v Speaker 2>the blonde girls scream, I mean the writing on this

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<v Speaker 2>show like, I yeah, it so. And this girl is

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<v Speaker 2>giving Elle and Dakota Fanning all at once, like it

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<v Speaker 2>is kind of a bootleg version of you know, maybe

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<v Speaker 2>she's a younger Fanning. And so the Hat runs back

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<v Speaker 2>and Pink like trying to help her friend even and

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<v Speaker 2>pink jacket dragged into a van. She's she's screaming, help help.

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<v Speaker 2>The crossing guard runs, you know, she can't. She's not

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<v Speaker 2>catching the van, not fast enough. The blue van is gone,

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<v Speaker 2>the girl is gone, and now Hat is talking to

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<v Speaker 2>Benson giving the scoop. The crossing guard is a Stabler

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<v Speaker 2>and the girl's Carly Hunter and she's eight years old

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<v Speaker 2>and Stabler judge immediately the parents let them walk home alone,

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<v Speaker 2>and it cuts to the Hat girl answering the same question,

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<v Speaker 2>but to Benson, Oh, they only live a block away,

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<v Speaker 2>and so yeah, when do you think you're gonna let

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<v Speaker 2>your kids welcome?

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<v Speaker 3>That's a really great question because we only live a

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<v Speaker 3>few blocks from their school, so I would let them

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<v Speaker 3>go together. And if they were in a little group,

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<v Speaker 3>like I don't know, because it's like like there's no problems.

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like my neighborhood is safe.

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<v Speaker 3>But it's just like the day that someone decides to

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<v Speaker 3>pull up and be like get in.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 3>That's the scary part, you know, Like yeah, and then

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<v Speaker 3>it's scary because we've also covered the case and like

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<v Speaker 3>the episodes where it's like the first time they ever

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<v Speaker 3>do it, and then that's when they're kidnapped.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, like I know that they could get there.

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<v Speaker 3>It's literally they take a left and go straight like

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<v Speaker 3>it's not you know.

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<v Speaker 2>But it's such a cultural thing because there's a whole

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<v Speaker 2>like isn't there a whole TV show in Japan where

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<v Speaker 2>they just send kids to do errands and they're tiny

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<v Speaker 2>and they have to buy themselves. Yeah, yeah, and they

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<v Speaker 2>do and it's like sweet and I'm like, yeah, everything's

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<v Speaker 2>so different, and then there's a Nordic country where they

0:22:48.480 --> 0:22:50.760
<v Speaker 2>leave strollers outside for babies to nap.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, everyone's okay with it.

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<v Speaker 2>It's just like we also live in this nightmare and

0:22:55.520 --> 0:22:58.080
<v Speaker 2>it's not like there's they're not snatching people in these places.

0:22:58.119 --> 0:23:01.920
<v Speaker 2>Pedophiles are everywhere. But it's yeah, just like more trusted.

0:23:01.960 --> 0:23:04.320
<v Speaker 2>I don't know, I don't know what it is. But

0:23:04.400 --> 0:23:06.560
<v Speaker 2>we had the milk carton stuff of it all, and

0:23:06.640 --> 0:23:11.080
<v Speaker 2>our president's a human trafficker, So like when the human

0:23:11.119 --> 0:23:14.439
<v Speaker 2>traffickers are in charge and we have such a large place,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean some people, like I have a friend who

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<v Speaker 3>let their kids, like a fourth grader and a first

0:23:21.000 --> 0:23:24.640
<v Speaker 3>grader walk to the donut shop like on the corner.

0:23:25.119 --> 0:23:28.320
<v Speaker 2>She was tracking them on her iPhone the entire time.

0:23:29.119 --> 0:23:31.440
<v Speaker 3>But like, if they walk to school every morning, how

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<v Speaker 3>do I even know if they don't make it there

0:23:33.240 --> 0:23:36.439
<v Speaker 3>until I get a voicemail, you know, like two hours later,

0:23:36.560 --> 0:23:38.359
<v Speaker 3>and then what I'm checking for the track or like,

0:23:38.400 --> 0:23:40.719
<v Speaker 3>I don't know. It's like I got to figure it out.

0:23:40.760 --> 0:23:43.359
<v Speaker 3>I got to figure when everybody is doing that.

0:23:43.520 --> 0:23:45.520
<v Speaker 2>But well, hopefully they never ask and you never have

0:23:45.560 --> 0:23:46.719
<v Speaker 2>to let them, like I don't know.

0:23:47.160 --> 0:23:49.000
<v Speaker 1>I mean we walk them right now, and it's like

0:23:49.040 --> 0:23:49.800
<v Speaker 1>so fucking cute.

0:23:50.040 --> 0:23:52.760
<v Speaker 3>It's like it's like it's like Sesame Street in the

0:23:52.760 --> 0:23:55.080
<v Speaker 3>morning and we're like good morning, like to all the neighbors,

0:23:55.160 --> 0:23:58.440
<v Speaker 3>like we're past, say, we've had the same ladies every

0:23:58.480 --> 0:24:00.560
<v Speaker 3>morning and we're like good morning, you know, Like it's

0:24:00.680 --> 0:24:04.160
<v Speaker 3>really there's like always these two older moms, older grandma's

0:24:04.200 --> 0:24:05.800
<v Speaker 3>like out gossiping together in Spanish.

0:24:05.840 --> 0:24:07.840
<v Speaker 1>We're always like hi, like you know.

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<v Speaker 2>It's cute.

0:24:09.119 --> 0:24:09.959
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

0:24:10.000 --> 0:24:12.520
<v Speaker 2>In the West Village, like there's Ben's pizza, Like we

0:24:12.680 --> 0:24:14.399
<v Speaker 2>always say hi to each other now and it just

0:24:14.440 --> 0:24:17.760
<v Speaker 2>feels cool to be like, what up to the pizza guy. Yes,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know. It's wild. And then there's a lot

0:24:20.400 --> 0:24:22.440
<v Speaker 2>of people on the streets in the West Village and

0:24:22.560 --> 0:24:25.320
<v Speaker 2>they're part of the community as well, so like Tony hoods,

0:24:25.760 --> 0:24:28.760
<v Speaker 2>who you Golf's milk cart and things like we acknowledge

0:24:28.760 --> 0:24:30.160
<v Speaker 2>each other every time we see each other.

0:24:30.640 --> 0:24:33.480
<v Speaker 3>And forget after I left New York, they saw my

0:24:33.560 --> 0:24:35.960
<v Speaker 3>sister at my bodega and they're like, where's your sister?

0:24:36.640 --> 0:24:38.960
<v Speaker 1>And I was like, oh my god.

0:24:39.080 --> 0:24:44.159
<v Speaker 2>Guys. Anyways, so they only live a block away the

0:24:44.480 --> 0:24:47.800
<v Speaker 2>crossing guard reiterates that, and then the mom comes running

0:24:47.840 --> 0:24:50.479
<v Speaker 2>with Craigan and blames the crossing guard. Immediately, you were

0:24:50.560 --> 0:24:51.960
<v Speaker 2>right there. Why didn't you stop it?

0:24:52.160 --> 0:24:52.480
<v Speaker 1>I don't know.

0:24:52.480 --> 0:24:54.200
<v Speaker 2>Why don't you pick up your kid from school? I mean,

0:24:54.200 --> 0:24:55.320
<v Speaker 2>how far back do we want to go with the

0:24:55.320 --> 0:24:55.840
<v Speaker 2>blame game?

0:24:55.880 --> 0:24:56.040
<v Speaker 3>Bit?

0:24:56.200 --> 0:24:59.720
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Cregan takes her away like it's no one's fault.

0:25:00.800 --> 0:25:03.119
<v Speaker 2>Then they get a recent photo of the girl. Ambroler

0:25:03.240 --> 0:25:04.840
<v Speaker 2>is put out on the car and they ask where

0:25:04.880 --> 0:25:07.440
<v Speaker 2>the dad is and he manages a Manhattan Liberty bank.

0:25:07.800 --> 0:25:08.480
<v Speaker 1>Finn runs in.

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<v Speaker 2>The van has been found three blocks away, and they

0:25:10.880 --> 0:25:15.600
<v Speaker 2>heard someone inside the cars where the detectives run.

0:25:15.600 --> 0:25:16.160
<v Speaker 1>We're all there.

0:25:16.280 --> 0:25:19.359
<v Speaker 2>A man screams, don't shoot, don't shoot. He begs not

0:25:19.400 --> 0:25:21.160
<v Speaker 2>to be killed. He is homeless and he just wanted

0:25:21.160 --> 0:25:23.639
<v Speaker 2>to get warm, and he doesn't know any girl. Then

0:25:23.680 --> 0:25:25.840
<v Speaker 2>we see a puddle of blood. The mom runs up,

0:25:26.040 --> 0:25:28.160
<v Speaker 2>is that blood? What do they do to my baby?

0:25:28.240 --> 0:25:30.520
<v Speaker 2>And it's a close up on the blood, then a

0:25:30.600 --> 0:25:33.720
<v Speaker 2>close up of Stabler looking at the blood, and then credits.

0:25:33.840 --> 0:25:35.879
<v Speaker 2>Stabler is getting missus Hunter out of the car and

0:25:35.920 --> 0:25:39.320
<v Speaker 2>being like, stay strong, stay positive, and she goes look

0:25:39.359 --> 0:25:40.719
<v Speaker 2>like a lot of blood and he's like, it might

0:25:40.760 --> 0:25:43.000
<v Speaker 2>not even be your daughters, and it's like, yeah, sure,

0:25:43.040 --> 0:25:45.520
<v Speaker 2>there was a butcher shop in there. They enter the

0:25:45.520 --> 0:25:48.480
<v Speaker 2>building of her home and her husband is there, Jay Hunter,

0:25:48.720 --> 0:25:51.520
<v Speaker 2>and he's played by a man named Tom Verica, and

0:25:51.600 --> 0:25:54.240
<v Speaker 2>he's the foot doctor in Seinfeld that Alane dates. So

0:25:54.359 --> 0:25:57.240
<v Speaker 2>if you're like, yeah, he looks familiar, he's in the Seinfeld.

0:25:56.960 --> 0:25:59.200
<v Speaker 3>And I sink I looked up Tom Verica and he

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<v Speaker 3>doesn't act anymore. But he is a producer on Bridgerton.

0:26:06.440 --> 0:26:11.320
<v Speaker 3>Fuck yeah, bro, yeah get that. So yeah, he's a

0:26:11.400 --> 0:26:14.040
<v Speaker 3>multi hyphen it they call him. And he's an executive

0:26:14.080 --> 0:26:16.760
<v Speaker 3>producer on Bridgerton. I think, yeah, he was like a

0:26:16.800 --> 0:26:19.520
<v Speaker 3>regular on How To Get Away with Murder and maybe

0:26:19.520 --> 0:26:22.760
<v Speaker 3>the pandemic freaked him out. But he just beas like

0:26:22.800 --> 0:26:26.560
<v Speaker 3>an ep on on a Bridgerton and doesn't act anymore,

0:26:26.560 --> 0:26:27.879
<v Speaker 3>at least not in the last five years.

0:26:28.040 --> 0:26:32.159
<v Speaker 1>I never watched that, but maybe I should.

0:26:32.200 --> 0:26:35.600
<v Speaker 2>But also that man like fumble his bag so hugely,

0:26:36.240 --> 0:26:37.640
<v Speaker 2>or maybe he's working, but you know the guy who

0:26:37.680 --> 0:26:39.240
<v Speaker 2>left up for the first season, he's like, I'm gonna

0:26:39.240 --> 0:26:43.400
<v Speaker 2>do other stuff and then never really to be seen again. Yeah,

0:26:43.560 --> 0:26:46.240
<v Speaker 2>and I don't get that right.

0:26:46.600 --> 0:26:49.280
<v Speaker 3>On page Yeah. I think it's like he hosted SNL

0:26:49.320 --> 0:26:50.640
<v Speaker 3>and was like, I'm big, bye.

0:26:51.160 --> 0:26:51.600
<v Speaker 2>I don't know.

0:26:52.720 --> 0:26:53.080
<v Speaker 1>I don't know.

0:26:53.119 --> 0:26:56.720
<v Speaker 2>Shonda Rymes is pretty big too. So they go to

0:26:56.800 --> 0:26:59.040
<v Speaker 2>talk to Carly's dad. Munch takes the mom up to

0:26:59.080 --> 0:27:02.960
<v Speaker 2>the apartment and the chat so Jake and Stabler the

0:27:03.040 --> 0:27:05.960
<v Speaker 2>van was stolen last night and they're looking for forensic

0:27:05.960 --> 0:27:08.760
<v Speaker 2>evidence to give some clues. The dad asks if he

0:27:09.240 --> 0:27:12.280
<v Speaker 2>is a pedophile, and he's stressed about this, and Stabler

0:27:12.359 --> 0:27:14.359
<v Speaker 2>is like, don't let those images get into your head.

0:27:15.119 --> 0:27:18.600
<v Speaker 2>And then but I mean, if a van snatches a kid,

0:27:19.280 --> 0:27:21.919
<v Speaker 2>we're assuming peedo. Also being in London, like the way

0:27:21.960 --> 0:27:24.720
<v Speaker 2>they say pedo file is so much more funny. It's

0:27:24.760 --> 0:27:27.399
<v Speaker 2>so much sillier and they say urinal and I'm like,

0:27:27.400 --> 0:27:29.119
<v Speaker 2>you guys are just so whimsical.

0:27:31.520 --> 0:27:32.439
<v Speaker 1>He's such a pedo.

0:27:33.720 --> 0:27:36.040
<v Speaker 2>Craigan comes in and wants a word with Stabler, so

0:27:36.040 --> 0:27:39.280
<v Speaker 2>the dad goes to meet his wife upstairs, and then

0:27:39.680 --> 0:27:41.760
<v Speaker 2>a parole guy thinks one of his people who is

0:27:41.800 --> 0:27:46.320
<v Speaker 2>a pedo, was seen outside of Carly's school. Let's pick

0:27:46.359 --> 0:27:48.560
<v Speaker 2>him up. So they go pick up Joel mad and

0:27:48.640 --> 0:27:50.600
<v Speaker 2>the parole guy is the best. His name is Joe

0:27:50.680 --> 0:27:52.800
<v Speaker 2>Lacy and he's played the parole this Pearl Die Log.

0:27:52.920 --> 0:27:55.680
<v Speaker 2>The parole Guy's name is Craig Lennon. He's in three

0:27:55.720 --> 0:27:58.320
<v Speaker 2>episodes as this guy and then in a season one

0:27:58.320 --> 0:28:00.760
<v Speaker 2>episode Hysteria as someone else. But I always love when

0:28:00.760 --> 0:28:02.480
<v Speaker 2>I see him, and I love how down he is

0:28:02.520 --> 0:28:04.720
<v Speaker 2>to work with, fit and just. He's just down to

0:28:04.760 --> 0:28:08.480
<v Speaker 2>fuck up some paroles, which we're against. We want rehabilitation

0:28:08.560 --> 0:28:12.480
<v Speaker 2>and people to enter society. But in SVU love this guy.

0:28:13.119 --> 0:28:16.840
<v Speaker 2>So they're swishing fast down the hall. And this dude

0:28:17.000 --> 0:28:19.240
<v Speaker 2>was found guilty of molesting his two nieces and the

0:28:19.240 --> 0:28:21.920
<v Speaker 2>girl next door. He did nine years at sing sing

0:28:22.080 --> 0:28:25.240
<v Speaker 2>so Joel Mayner Knock, knock, knock, so Yella's name. They

0:28:25.400 --> 0:28:27.560
<v Speaker 2>go like open the door, nowse and then they hear

0:28:27.600 --> 0:28:29.160
<v Speaker 2>someone's in there, so they kick down the door.

0:28:29.280 --> 0:28:30.240
<v Speaker 1>Fuck yeah.

0:28:30.280 --> 0:28:32.760
<v Speaker 2>And he's going on the fire escape, going up the stairs,

0:28:32.760 --> 0:28:36.240
<v Speaker 2>big patio, outdoor, terrace, vibes in this building, giant chase.

0:28:36.280 --> 0:28:39.360
<v Speaker 1>He's cornered. It's a long way down. What will he do?

0:28:40.160 --> 0:28:42.400
<v Speaker 2>So he jumps, He hangs off for a moment of

0:28:42.400 --> 0:28:45.040
<v Speaker 2>the building across, but then he falls into the attraction.

0:28:45.280 --> 0:28:48.360
<v Speaker 2>He is dead, so we but he's a pedophile, Like,

0:28:48.360 --> 0:28:50.120
<v Speaker 2>I don't care, you know what I mean, Like, nine

0:28:50.160 --> 0:28:50.920
<v Speaker 2>years isn't enough.

0:28:50.960 --> 0:28:54.520
<v Speaker 1>You molested three girls, two that were your nieces.

0:28:54.880 --> 0:28:57.240
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, nine years, honey. I'm glad you're dad. I don't

0:28:57.240 --> 0:28:59.440
<v Speaker 2>give a fuck, but I'm against the death penalty.

0:29:00.000 --> 0:29:01.520
<v Speaker 3>But if it happens because you think you can jump

0:29:01.520 --> 0:29:03.600
<v Speaker 3>from building to building, I'm really not gonna like cry

0:29:03.680 --> 0:29:07.920
<v Speaker 3>over it, you know, like I know, okay, think you're

0:29:08.000 --> 0:29:12.080
<v Speaker 3>Spider Man and you're not. But so like bye bye

0:29:12.280 --> 0:29:14.040
<v Speaker 3>pit paedophile by p do.

0:29:16.000 --> 0:29:17.960
<v Speaker 2>So now we get to search the pedos house though,

0:29:18.720 --> 0:29:20.800
<v Speaker 2>and yeah, pedo pedo, what do you guys prefer?

0:29:21.040 --> 0:29:24.080
<v Speaker 1>Link in the comments below? JK, we have no links.

0:29:24.560 --> 0:29:29.640
<v Speaker 2>Hopefully, hopefully there's a clue to Carly. Here we find

0:29:29.680 --> 0:29:32.080
<v Speaker 2>a laptop and it's a lot of photos of young girls,

0:29:32.080 --> 0:29:35.840
<v Speaker 2>but none of them are Carly. There's a password protected journal.

0:29:36.080 --> 0:29:40.000
<v Speaker 2>But Joel de la Fuente aka Taru aka Ruby Morales,

0:29:40.040 --> 0:29:41.840
<v Speaker 2>he's he's quick. He gets in there and this guy

0:29:41.880 --> 0:29:45.880
<v Speaker 2>was like pining over some child. It's dated today. Stabler goes,

0:29:45.920 --> 0:29:48.520
<v Speaker 2>I really don't think it's this guy, and then we

0:29:48.560 --> 0:29:51.080
<v Speaker 2>get news from Warner that the only blood they found

0:29:51.160 --> 0:29:53.440
<v Speaker 2>in the van was Carly's and no one else is,

0:29:53.600 --> 0:29:55.520
<v Speaker 2>so like, I don't know if this guy's the purple

0:29:55.560 --> 0:29:59.000
<v Speaker 2>or not. But we found out because of the type

0:29:59.000 --> 0:30:01.800
<v Speaker 2>of blood. This is from Warner that it was a nosebleed,

0:30:02.280 --> 0:30:05.320
<v Speaker 2>not an injury. But that's not good news or good news.

0:30:05.360 --> 0:30:08.640
<v Speaker 2>But we find out that this curl has leukemia.

0:30:09.000 --> 0:30:11.080
<v Speaker 3>But also it's like a puddle of blood on the

0:30:11.080 --> 0:30:11.960
<v Speaker 3>bottom of this van.

0:30:12.120 --> 0:30:13.280
<v Speaker 1>I've never seen a nosebleed.

0:30:13.360 --> 0:30:13.920
<v Speaker 2>Gosh like that.

0:30:14.080 --> 0:30:18.000
<v Speaker 3>But okay, you're so much fucking blood on the thing.

0:30:18.120 --> 0:30:22.280
<v Speaker 3>I was like, okay, but yes, we needed to get

0:30:22.280 --> 0:30:24.240
<v Speaker 3>to this blood because we have.

0:30:24.200 --> 0:30:31.240
<v Speaker 2>The bad news. No, you're so right, lol, Okay, but

0:30:31.360 --> 0:30:34.040
<v Speaker 2>she has leukemia, thank god. From Warner this is a bummer,

0:30:34.080 --> 0:30:36.800
<v Speaker 2>but too many white blood cells and she needs treatment

0:30:36.840 --> 0:30:41.120
<v Speaker 2>for survival asap. And this could be the first blast crisis.

0:30:41.440 --> 0:30:43.960
<v Speaker 2>So symptoms of the flu, so parents might not even

0:30:44.040 --> 0:30:47.800
<v Speaker 2>know she just might have flu symptoms, but it is leukemia.

0:30:48.320 --> 0:30:51.600
<v Speaker 2>So stablers like, we need to find Carly, and Melinda

0:30:51.680 --> 0:30:54.040
<v Speaker 2>is gonna go see the family the Hunters and like

0:30:54.120 --> 0:30:57.120
<v Speaker 2>let them know that their daughter is sick. So Jake

0:30:57.160 --> 0:31:00.360
<v Speaker 2>and Pamela are with Melinda in the apartment and fills

0:31:00.360 --> 0:31:02.640
<v Speaker 2>them in on the disease and the mom goes, fuck,

0:31:02.760 --> 0:31:04.880
<v Speaker 2>my daughter has been tired for the past six weeks,

0:31:04.880 --> 0:31:06.240
<v Speaker 2>but she just thought she didn't want to go to

0:31:06.280 --> 0:31:09.160
<v Speaker 2>school six weeks.

0:31:10.160 --> 0:31:13.200
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, your daughter, at least get her checked for mono

0:31:13.400 --> 0:31:14.160
<v Speaker 3>or something like.

0:31:14.240 --> 0:31:15.440
<v Speaker 1>Come on, you think for.

0:31:15.440 --> 0:31:18.280
<v Speaker 2>Six and if she if if she doesn't want to

0:31:18.320 --> 0:31:20.240
<v Speaker 2>go to school, this bad.

0:31:20.760 --> 0:31:22.760
<v Speaker 1>Maybe something is something.

0:31:23.440 --> 0:31:26.280
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, to not do anything for six weeks and we'll

0:31:26.360 --> 0:31:28.600
<v Speaker 2>learn more about this woman. So we need her back

0:31:28.680 --> 0:31:31.320
<v Speaker 2>asap because you know, she has a few days or

0:31:31.360 --> 0:31:34.520
<v Speaker 2>a week before this leukemia is gonna get out of control.

0:31:34.720 --> 0:31:37.360
<v Speaker 2>Since the mom ignored her daughter for her six weeks,

0:31:37.840 --> 0:31:41.640
<v Speaker 2>I feel whatever, listen to your fucking kids. So when

0:31:41.760 --> 0:31:43.920
<v Speaker 2>Molina goes, you know, we gotta like get her back.

0:31:43.960 --> 0:31:45.720
<v Speaker 2>We have like a few days to a week. The

0:31:45.760 --> 0:31:48.960
<v Speaker 2>mom goes a week, then the phone rings, the dad

0:31:49.000 --> 0:31:51.360
<v Speaker 2>gets it. Melinda reassures the mom, and then the dad's

0:31:51.360 --> 0:31:53.640
<v Speaker 2>like hello, hello, hello, puts it on speakerphone. It's a

0:31:53.680 --> 0:31:56.920
<v Speaker 2>voice changer. Wait, and the guy goes, wait for instructions.

0:31:56.920 --> 0:31:58.600
<v Speaker 2>We have your daughter. If you call the police will

0:31:58.680 --> 0:32:02.160
<v Speaker 2>kill her dial tone, so now dramatic music. Melinda's thinking.

0:32:02.200 --> 0:32:04.320
<v Speaker 2>The mom flips out, why isn't he calling back? It's

0:32:04.320 --> 0:32:06.840
<v Speaker 2>been hours, so it's like a time lapse. It's dark outside. Okay.

0:32:06.920 --> 0:32:10.840
<v Speaker 2>So Melinda's so smart and says, these people want money

0:32:10.880 --> 0:32:12.800
<v Speaker 2>and the only way to get money is to contact you,

0:32:12.880 --> 0:32:14.840
<v Speaker 2>so they will contact you again. But I do think

0:32:14.840 --> 0:32:18.080
<v Speaker 2>we need to get stabler. Dad says absolutely not. I'm

0:32:18.080 --> 0:32:20.960
<v Speaker 2>not chancing with my daughter's life. Melinda goes, this is dangerous.

0:32:21.000 --> 0:32:23.200
<v Speaker 2>He goes, if the cops are so smart, why didn't

0:32:23.240 --> 0:32:25.240
<v Speaker 2>they tap our phones? And she's like, because we thought

0:32:25.280 --> 0:32:27.200
<v Speaker 2>we were dealing with a pedophile and not a ransom case.

0:32:27.440 --> 0:32:29.840
<v Speaker 2>Like fuck off, but also fuck the police.

0:32:29.880 --> 0:32:30.320
<v Speaker 1>Like I don't know.

0:32:30.400 --> 0:32:32.360
<v Speaker 2>Life is too complicated and I don't want to live

0:32:32.400 --> 0:32:35.600
<v Speaker 2>like this anymore. So he says, if we give money,

0:32:35.680 --> 0:32:39.600
<v Speaker 2>we will get Carly back, and Melinda disagrees, but he goes,

0:32:39.640 --> 0:32:42.000
<v Speaker 2>my daughter, my choice. The phone rings, the answer and

0:32:42.040 --> 0:32:44.320
<v Speaker 2>speaker and we hear the voice scouy, I told you

0:32:44.360 --> 0:32:46.160
<v Speaker 2>not to call the cops. Who is that woman they

0:32:46.160 --> 0:32:49.440
<v Speaker 2>are being watched? They say she's a doctor. Melinda goes, yeah,

0:32:49.440 --> 0:32:52.320
<v Speaker 2>she has leukemia. He goes you think I'm stupid and

0:32:52.560 --> 0:32:55.320
<v Speaker 2>basically kind of a smart movie goes explain it to me,

0:32:55.440 --> 0:32:56.840
<v Speaker 2>like I'm a doctor and you're a doctor.

0:32:56.960 --> 0:32:58.720
<v Speaker 1>Prove it. She schools this ass.

0:32:58.800 --> 0:33:03.280
<v Speaker 2>It's like so sexy, details, details, details, big words, and

0:33:04.280 --> 0:33:07.480
<v Speaker 2>she needs to be hospitalized asap. It makes them silent

0:33:07.960 --> 0:33:10.640
<v Speaker 2>and he goes. Nobody else can come in. We're watching,

0:33:11.120 --> 0:33:13.800
<v Speaker 2>and then mister Hunter, leave now, and you better come

0:33:13.800 --> 0:33:16.160
<v Speaker 2>back with three hundred thousand dollars. You have till eight

0:33:16.160 --> 0:33:19.680
<v Speaker 2>pm or your daughter dies. Melinda coaches the mom to

0:33:19.720 --> 0:33:22.160
<v Speaker 2>ask to talk to Carly. We do hear Carly's voice.

0:33:22.200 --> 0:33:24.800
<v Speaker 2>She's alive, and the dad goes to the bank. Melinda

0:33:24.800 --> 0:33:27.239
<v Speaker 2>asks for the bathroom, and we know we know what

0:33:27.280 --> 0:33:28.880
<v Speaker 2>she's gonna do, but the mom stands alone in the

0:33:28.920 --> 0:33:33.320
<v Speaker 2>living room, contemplating her complicated life, and Melinda calls the cops. Obviously,

0:33:33.680 --> 0:33:38.880
<v Speaker 2>so now Stable and Finn are dresses delivery people. I'm obsessed.

0:33:39.000 --> 0:33:43.280
<v Speaker 2>It's a giant refrigerator box, jumpsuits, hats. They enter with

0:33:43.320 --> 0:33:46.520
<v Speaker 2>a fridge and she explains the safeful like zones of

0:33:46.520 --> 0:33:48.920
<v Speaker 2>the apartment, which rooms can be seen from outside and

0:33:48.960 --> 0:33:51.360
<v Speaker 2>not and out of the box hops out Joel de

0:33:51.400 --> 0:33:54.440
<v Speaker 2>la Fuente and another person. The mom is flipping out.

0:33:54.600 --> 0:33:57.560
<v Speaker 2>Stabler shushes her and he says, we're sweeping for bugs.

0:33:58.160 --> 0:34:00.800
<v Speaker 1>I am like, just loves good police work.

0:34:00.840 --> 0:34:03.360
<v Speaker 2>Okay, So Melinda keeps a censor under her shirt and

0:34:03.440 --> 0:34:06.400
<v Speaker 2>walks around and the fit so Finn and the other

0:34:06.480 --> 0:34:09.040
<v Speaker 2>man they leave, and Stablor goes seats to come in

0:34:09.080 --> 0:34:13.040
<v Speaker 2>to come out, like, we're good, so smart, so fun.

0:34:13.120 --> 0:34:16.440
<v Speaker 2>Ocean's eleven and as long as they stay in the kitchen,

0:34:16.480 --> 0:34:18.560
<v Speaker 2>no one's gonna know they're there. The mom is not trusting,

0:34:18.600 --> 0:34:20.719
<v Speaker 2>but Melinda and Stabler don't give a fuck, and they

0:34:20.719 --> 0:34:23.160
<v Speaker 2>start whispering to each other. Each call was made from

0:34:23.160 --> 0:34:25.160
<v Speaker 2>a prepaid cell phone that was just used once and

0:34:25.200 --> 0:34:29.359
<v Speaker 2>then thrown out, so this person is very paranoid. Jake's back,

0:34:29.760 --> 0:34:32.320
<v Speaker 2>he has the cash and he sees Stabler and his pissed,

0:34:32.360 --> 0:34:34.439
<v Speaker 2>but they calm him down and they wait for the call.

0:34:35.120 --> 0:34:35.600
<v Speaker 1>It's dark.

0:34:35.719 --> 0:34:38.319
<v Speaker 2>She's never stayed away from home before, and Stabler goes,

0:34:38.400 --> 0:34:42.680
<v Speaker 2>this wasn't random, Like someone chose Carly and they're targeting you.

0:34:43.320 --> 0:34:45.800
<v Speaker 2>They know your name, number, where you live, you have money.

0:34:45.800 --> 0:34:48.040
<v Speaker 2>He goes, I'm just a bank manager, Like I don't

0:34:48.480 --> 0:34:53.320
<v Speaker 2>have like wealth. So Stabler asks, like, has anyone threatened?

0:34:53.320 --> 0:34:55.480
<v Speaker 2>You are very angry, and the dad's getting a little annoyed,

0:34:55.480 --> 0:34:57.960
<v Speaker 2>Like if I knew who took her, I would say something.

0:34:57.960 --> 0:35:01.239
<v Speaker 2>I want my daughter back. Ring ring fax machine turns on.

0:35:01.960 --> 0:35:04.160
<v Speaker 2>It's in his office. It says, go to the garage, now,

0:35:04.400 --> 0:35:07.960
<v Speaker 2>put money in the trunk. Ninety eighth and west end,

0:35:08.080 --> 0:35:11.080
<v Speaker 2>cell phone and back in dumpster. Find it, press redial

0:35:11.160 --> 0:35:13.880
<v Speaker 2>and we'll tell you where to drive. The doc brings

0:35:13.920 --> 0:35:16.160
<v Speaker 2>the money alone. Stanlor doesn't want her to go alone.

0:35:16.280 --> 0:35:18.600
<v Speaker 2>She says she can handle herself. Okay, this is a

0:35:18.640 --> 0:35:21.759
<v Speaker 2>really cool scene. So then he says, no offense. But

0:35:21.840 --> 0:35:25.359
<v Speaker 2>med school doesn't exactly prepare you for this, She snaps back,

0:35:25.520 --> 0:35:28.319
<v Speaker 2>the Air Force did they paid for medical school? I

0:35:28.360 --> 0:35:33.319
<v Speaker 2>did two tours in Ramstein during desert storm? Like that right,

0:35:33.400 --> 0:35:36.080
<v Speaker 2>sounds like a heavy metal band. How many seasons has

0:35:36.600 --> 0:35:38.680
<v Speaker 2>Warner been on you? Guys don't know she was in

0:35:38.800 --> 0:35:40.960
<v Speaker 2>the military, Like, I feel like they know each other.

0:35:41.360 --> 0:35:43.359
<v Speaker 2>I know, but I think it's a classic man shit.

0:35:43.440 --> 0:35:45.759
<v Speaker 2>I think it's like I think people that work with me, like,

0:35:45.800 --> 0:35:47.440
<v Speaker 2>I think this is like a classic.

0:35:47.239 --> 0:35:49.239
<v Speaker 1>Experience that I bet a lot of people.

0:35:49.520 --> 0:35:53.239
<v Speaker 2>In a workforce experience of like yeah, yeah, and it's

0:35:53.239 --> 0:35:55.200
<v Speaker 2>the heat of the moment. But you're right, Stabler should

0:35:55.280 --> 0:35:57.520
<v Speaker 2>know that she's a badass. In the military. They like

0:35:57.800 --> 0:36:01.520
<v Speaker 2>work very closely together. But she says, I know how

0:36:01.520 --> 0:36:04.000
<v Speaker 2>to handle myself with men with guns. He takes his

0:36:04.040 --> 0:36:06.760
<v Speaker 2>ankle gun gives it to her. She says it'll be okay.

0:36:06.960 --> 0:36:08.680
<v Speaker 2>Not sure if she takes the gun or not, Like,

0:36:08.680 --> 0:36:11.080
<v Speaker 2>we don't know, but Melinda is. I am assuming she

0:36:11.160 --> 0:36:13.600
<v Speaker 2>takes the gun. Melinda's driving and doing the damn thing.

0:36:13.760 --> 0:36:16.399
<v Speaker 2>She She finds the phone, she read aals, She heads

0:36:16.440 --> 0:36:18.839
<v Speaker 2>down the river, down the west Side Highway. She enters

0:36:18.880 --> 0:36:23.000
<v Speaker 2>some warehouse like style peers and then when she gets

0:36:23.239 --> 0:36:25.960
<v Speaker 2>so she you know, goes to the trunk. She opens

0:36:25.960 --> 0:36:28.000
<v Speaker 2>the trunk. There's a bag of money and who else

0:36:28.280 --> 0:36:31.319
<v Speaker 2>what else? Stabler, he's in the trunk. Oh, and I

0:36:31.360 --> 0:36:33.560
<v Speaker 2>love it. I love it a lot of So a

0:36:33.640 --> 0:36:37.200
<v Speaker 2>man in a mask pulls up, lights flash on, and

0:36:37.719 --> 0:36:39.319
<v Speaker 2>you know, Melinda, he gets out.

0:36:39.360 --> 0:36:40.239
<v Speaker 1>He tells her to walk.

0:36:40.400 --> 0:36:42.920
<v Speaker 2>She goes, not till I see Carly, and he says,

0:36:42.960 --> 0:36:45.120
<v Speaker 2>do what I say, and she walks forward. He says

0:36:45.200 --> 0:36:47.719
<v Speaker 2>stop and the guy says, sit up, and Carle pops up.

0:36:47.800 --> 0:36:51.360
<v Speaker 2>She looks scared, and she looks disheveled. She definitely my stuff.

0:36:51.440 --> 0:36:54.600
<v Speaker 2>Luky me like she's tired the mom to see her kid.

0:36:54.719 --> 0:36:57.359
<v Speaker 2>I mean she's also been kidnapped, but like she does

0:36:57.440 --> 0:37:00.000
<v Speaker 2>look tired and disheveled. I feel like the mom should

0:37:00.160 --> 0:37:05.120
<v Speaker 2>have done something for six weeks. Yeah, rag a muffin.

0:37:05.360 --> 0:37:09.720
<v Speaker 2>So he says, put the money down, YadA YadA. Okay,

0:37:09.760 --> 0:37:12.480
<v Speaker 2>So then she puts it down but won't go back.

0:37:12.480 --> 0:37:14.160
<v Speaker 2>He says, are you deaf? Go back to the car.

0:37:14.239 --> 0:37:17.080
<v Speaker 2>She says, no, not without the girl. Look, you got

0:37:17.080 --> 0:37:18.719
<v Speaker 2>your money, Just let me take her home.

0:37:18.760 --> 0:37:22.080
<v Speaker 1>And she is so cute. She tells Carl to come out.

0:37:22.120 --> 0:37:23.839
<v Speaker 2>She starts to get out of the car, and then

0:37:23.880 --> 0:37:27.560
<v Speaker 2>a security guard enters. Fuck and he yells like private property,

0:37:27.600 --> 0:37:30.839
<v Speaker 2>no trustpassing. So then the mass guy, you know, the

0:37:31.000 --> 0:37:33.359
<v Speaker 2>ransom guy, tells Carl to get back in the car.

0:37:33.520 --> 0:37:36.919
<v Speaker 2>Carly screams, Stabler pops out of the trunk. Melinda runs

0:37:36.960 --> 0:37:40.200
<v Speaker 2>after the car. She falls down. Stabler shoots at the car,

0:37:40.239 --> 0:37:42.799
<v Speaker 2>but it drives off. And also there's a girl in

0:37:42.840 --> 0:37:44.560
<v Speaker 2>the car, and I can't believe you're just shooting at

0:37:44.560 --> 0:37:48.720
<v Speaker 2>a car like that. Fuck, Carly has gone security guard.

0:37:48.800 --> 0:37:51.759
<v Speaker 2>Boned us is the words that Stabler uses to fill

0:37:51.800 --> 0:37:54.279
<v Speaker 2>in Kragan. And now he's like, well, now he knows

0:37:54.320 --> 0:37:56.120
<v Speaker 2>the cops are involved, he can cut his losses and

0:37:56.200 --> 0:37:58.719
<v Speaker 2>kill Carly. Now this sucks. Melinda goes, no, it's too

0:37:58.800 --> 0:38:01.040
<v Speaker 2>much money. He's not gonna do it. He wants the money.

0:38:01.640 --> 0:38:05.040
<v Speaker 2>He didn't take the money. That's crazy, that's so crazy.

0:38:05.440 --> 0:38:10.439
<v Speaker 2>So ohhalleran sexy sexy csu comes in and I mean, yeah,

0:38:10.480 --> 0:38:12.879
<v Speaker 2>I forgot your name, but I wrote sexy sexy next

0:38:12.920 --> 0:38:17.080
<v Speaker 2>to you. So I feel like that's a that's a wind.

0:38:17.239 --> 0:38:22.760
<v Speaker 2>He understands, and I've seen him socially. I've seen him socially.

0:38:23.000 --> 0:38:26.440
<v Speaker 2>He's out and about. He's hot as fuck and thrilled, thrilled.

0:38:27.320 --> 0:38:29.440
<v Speaker 2>I remember he was one of our first cast members.

0:38:29.600 --> 0:38:29.959
<v Speaker 1>I feel.

0:38:30.000 --> 0:38:31.880
<v Speaker 2>I guess we get excited with every cast member, no

0:38:31.960 --> 0:38:34.040
<v Speaker 2>matter how many years it goes by.

0:38:34.239 --> 0:38:35.359
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, we do.

0:38:37.239 --> 0:38:42.120
<v Speaker 2>He found sodium chloride in the tires or something or

0:38:42.239 --> 0:38:45.040
<v Speaker 2>left behind in the tracks. I really don't give a fuck,

0:38:45.600 --> 0:38:48.640
<v Speaker 2>thank you. He goes, it's from rock salt for melting ice.

0:38:48.760 --> 0:38:50.960
<v Speaker 2>But there was so much he didn't just drive through it,

0:38:51.000 --> 0:38:53.319
<v Speaker 2>he was like parked in it. This is such a

0:38:53.360 --> 0:38:55.239
<v Speaker 2>funny stretch, Like I don't know how they even came

0:38:55.320 --> 0:38:56.919
<v Speaker 2>up with this, But they go, maybe there's a rock

0:38:56.960 --> 0:39:00.440
<v Speaker 2>salt factory. I mean, that's where he's been hiding out.

0:39:00.680 --> 0:39:04.800
<v Speaker 2>So Stabler goes, we need to tell Carly's parents what happened. Therapists. Obviously,

0:39:04.840 --> 0:39:07.640
<v Speaker 2>the dad's yelling. Stabler takes the dad away and Melinda

0:39:07.680 --> 0:39:09.560
<v Speaker 2>stays with the mom and he's like, we're not dealing

0:39:09.560 --> 0:39:11.600
<v Speaker 2>with a pro here, and the dad goes, well, how

0:39:11.600 --> 0:39:14.640
<v Speaker 2>do you know that? And Stable explains a pro wouldn't

0:39:14.640 --> 0:39:17.480
<v Speaker 2>have been rattled by a rental cop. He would have

0:39:17.480 --> 0:39:19.160
<v Speaker 2>made sure to take the money. It would have been

0:39:19.200 --> 0:39:22.680
<v Speaker 2>a clean getaway. So like, and it's no one's saying

0:39:22.680 --> 0:39:24.080
<v Speaker 2>I think a Stable goes, do you have something to

0:39:24.080 --> 0:39:25.680
<v Speaker 2>tell me? And Salor turns around to make sure the

0:39:25.680 --> 0:39:30.359
<v Speaker 2>mom's not listening. He's like, affair like gambling, what's going on?

0:39:30.480 --> 0:39:32.160
<v Speaker 2>And then he goes like, could your wife be mad

0:39:32.200 --> 0:39:33.879
<v Speaker 2>at you for something and trying to fuck you over?

0:39:33.960 --> 0:39:35.719
<v Speaker 2>But I don't think the mom would like risk her

0:39:35.800 --> 0:39:38.759
<v Speaker 2>daughter's life like this. But we've seen it before where

0:39:38.800 --> 0:39:42.400
<v Speaker 2>parents do. So who knows the dad. We know a

0:39:42.440 --> 0:39:44.719
<v Speaker 2>lot of parents. I don't think this mom would at

0:39:44.719 --> 0:39:47.120
<v Speaker 2>this moment in time, because she does seem very panicked.

0:39:47.960 --> 0:39:50.440
<v Speaker 2>Dad asks what now, Stabler goes, well, we go after him.

0:39:50.440 --> 0:39:52.720
<v Speaker 2>There's two leads. We have forensic evidence from the warehouse

0:39:52.719 --> 0:39:55.319
<v Speaker 2>and we have this ransom note. So now we're at

0:39:55.320 --> 0:39:58.080
<v Speaker 2>with Taro Craigan and Ruben Morales are going through evidence

0:39:58.560 --> 0:40:01.880
<v Speaker 2>and the facts location in his masked but Reuben thinks

0:40:01.880 --> 0:40:04.520
<v Speaker 2>he could still track it with a secret code. So

0:40:04.960 --> 0:40:07.600
<v Speaker 2>on the secret Service database he can look up a

0:40:07.680 --> 0:40:12.240
<v Speaker 2>code and find his location through the ink. I can't,

0:40:12.480 --> 0:40:15.640
<v Speaker 2>I can't the rock Salt the ink, the I can't

0:40:16.160 --> 0:40:17.080
<v Speaker 2>What is this?

0:40:18.200 --> 0:40:18.319
<v Speaker 3>Am?

0:40:18.360 --> 0:40:19.960
<v Speaker 1>I am? I the only one that's upset.

0:40:20.400 --> 0:40:22.919
<v Speaker 2>There's codes put into the ink, and through the ink

0:40:23.000 --> 0:40:25.480
<v Speaker 2>and a secret service database he could find the location

0:40:25.719 --> 0:40:28.919
<v Speaker 2>of where the thing was printed and then earlier it's

0:40:28.960 --> 0:40:30.320
<v Speaker 2>like the rock salt factory.

0:40:30.360 --> 0:40:32.480
<v Speaker 1>Like these are just so preposterous.

0:40:32.880 --> 0:40:35.920
<v Speaker 3>I thought the ink put it to a certain place,

0:40:36.160 --> 0:40:38.280
<v Speaker 3>and then the rock salt factories nearby.

0:40:39.080 --> 0:40:43.279
<v Speaker 2>But no, I'm not saying uh like to me. I'm

0:40:43.400 --> 0:40:46.879
<v Speaker 2>combining them because they're just so outward crazy dots I've

0:40:46.920 --> 0:40:49.840
<v Speaker 2>never heard of that in my life. Like, what, like,

0:40:49.920 --> 0:40:52.399
<v Speaker 2>there's a signature within the ink? What the fuck are

0:40:52.440 --> 0:40:54.600
<v Speaker 2>you talking about? We're being we're being surveilled.

0:40:55.120 --> 0:40:59.160
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, we're on printing stuff. Let's get a munch back

0:40:59.160 --> 0:41:01.600
<v Speaker 3>in here. I don't have munch in this episode, being like,

0:41:01.600 --> 0:41:02.960
<v Speaker 3>look up from the paper.

0:41:03.160 --> 0:41:06.120
<v Speaker 1>Well, funny, you should say that, where's Marishka. We haven't

0:41:06.120 --> 0:41:07.680
<v Speaker 1>seen that yet? Pregnant?

0:41:08.040 --> 0:41:11.200
<v Speaker 3>Oh okay, that's why there's a couple of season seven

0:41:11.360 --> 0:41:13.920
<v Speaker 3>is like she's pret because that's why she's is. She

0:41:13.960 --> 0:41:16.040
<v Speaker 3>appears later and she's holding a folder in front of

0:41:16.040 --> 0:41:18.640
<v Speaker 3>her classic folder in front of the stomach.

0:41:19.040 --> 0:41:19.840
<v Speaker 1>I knew you would know.

0:41:20.080 --> 0:41:23.839
<v Speaker 2>I'm glad you clocked that. That's so funny. God, I

0:41:23.920 --> 0:41:28.279
<v Speaker 2>love everything. So okay, we have the location. It's eighty

0:41:28.320 --> 0:41:30.200
<v Speaker 2>sixth the Broadway. It's a coffee shop. That's where a

0:41:30.280 --> 0:41:33.560
<v Speaker 2>printed it. Stabler starts to make circles on a map.

0:41:33.640 --> 0:41:36.920
<v Speaker 2>Right the coffee shop, Karly's school, the Hunter apartment, the

0:41:37.040 --> 0:41:40.560
<v Speaker 2>van where it was stolen, the ransom drop. It's all

0:41:40.600 --> 0:41:43.400
<v Speaker 2>down the west Side and it's in a one mile stretch,

0:41:43.440 --> 0:41:46.800
<v Speaker 2>so it's a safe zone. So she must be around

0:41:46.840 --> 0:41:50.799
<v Speaker 2>here in his comfort place. So now Doyle is there

0:41:51.239 --> 0:41:53.440
<v Speaker 2>is like there's a rock salt factory in that mile

0:41:53.800 --> 0:41:55.640
<v Speaker 2>and it's went out of business. So they go to

0:41:55.680 --> 0:41:58.560
<v Speaker 2>the storage of the rock salt factory that's been abandoned

0:41:58.640 --> 0:42:01.480
<v Speaker 2>on fifty eighth in the Hudson and so Craigan and

0:42:01.520 --> 0:42:04.319
<v Speaker 2>Stable run it. They go through a fence, no sign

0:42:04.320 --> 0:42:07.480
<v Speaker 2>of a car but maybe inside. So watching Craigan run

0:42:07.560 --> 0:42:09.359
<v Speaker 2>is so funny. We do not see him run a lot.

0:42:09.400 --> 0:42:12.279
<v Speaker 2>He's usually not on the scene, and he runs very

0:42:12.400 --> 0:42:14.560
<v Speaker 2>very funny. I don't know if you clocked it, but

0:42:14.880 --> 0:42:18.480
<v Speaker 2>he's he's not swinging his arms in the way he should.

0:42:18.640 --> 0:42:19.040
<v Speaker 1>I don't know.

0:42:19.200 --> 0:42:24.400
<v Speaker 2>It just was cute and I just love Dan Florick.

0:42:24.520 --> 0:42:28.040
<v Speaker 2>So it's a big vacant space. But there's a new

0:42:28.080 --> 0:42:30.960
<v Speaker 2>padlock on this like super old looking place. So they

0:42:30.960 --> 0:42:34.560
<v Speaker 2>break it down and there's evidence of Carly's sneaker and

0:42:34.600 --> 0:42:36.120
<v Speaker 2>then they pull it up and it's her full body.

0:42:36.160 --> 0:42:39.960
<v Speaker 2>She's alive, thank god, she's unconscious, but there's a pulse.

0:42:40.239 --> 0:42:43.879
<v Speaker 2>He fucking drugged her with cough syrup. So she made

0:42:43.880 --> 0:42:46.160
<v Speaker 2>her drink a bunch of cough syrup and let her

0:42:46.239 --> 0:42:47.759
<v Speaker 2>lay there, And so they got to get her to

0:42:47.800 --> 0:42:51.520
<v Speaker 2>the hospital. The doctor that receives her is the surfer guy.

0:42:51.600 --> 0:42:54.520
<v Speaker 2>We're talking blonde highlights and he has a lot of facts.

0:42:54.560 --> 0:42:58.640
<v Speaker 2>So treated for hypothermia and an overdose. She's gonna sleep

0:42:58.680 --> 0:43:00.720
<v Speaker 2>overnight and then we're gonna start key in the morning.

0:43:00.840 --> 0:43:02.839
<v Speaker 1>I mean, this girl, what.

0:43:03.000 --> 0:43:11.280
<v Speaker 3>Breaks another club? Another club with therapy, like it's crazy.

0:43:13.520 --> 0:43:14.920
<v Speaker 3>Stabler seems proud.

0:43:15.280 --> 0:43:18.160
<v Speaker 2>The dad looks at Stabler and nods, and Stabler nods back,

0:43:18.280 --> 0:43:21.240
<v Speaker 2>and so Stabler and Denim and Leather walks into the office.

0:43:21.320 --> 0:43:24.120
<v Speaker 2>Benson is walking out. This is the folder scene. I'm

0:43:24.160 --> 0:43:27.680
<v Speaker 2>assuming I didn't notice that. Congrats, she said, I heard

0:43:27.680 --> 0:43:30.960
<v Speaker 2>you found Carly. But you know, Stabler's not satisfied. The

0:43:31.000 --> 0:43:33.920
<v Speaker 2>guy's still out there. She's confused why he's not leaving.

0:43:34.360 --> 0:43:36.200
<v Speaker 2>She's going home, but he's like, I have to grab

0:43:36.239 --> 0:43:38.960
<v Speaker 2>something from the locker. She says good night, but truly

0:43:39.080 --> 0:43:42.160
<v Speaker 2>is puzzled, like she's staring at him pretty intensely. He

0:43:42.200 --> 0:43:44.520
<v Speaker 2>goes into the crib with all the beds. So is

0:43:44.520 --> 0:43:48.560
<v Speaker 2>this separation, Stabler? Because is this right? Before Blonde curls like,

0:43:48.600 --> 0:43:49.600
<v Speaker 2>what's going on here?

0:43:50.160 --> 0:43:53.440
<v Speaker 1>Maybe? Wait? Because why in the crib?

0:43:54.280 --> 0:43:57.520
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, he's like lays down, lays on his back,

0:43:57.560 --> 0:44:00.560
<v Speaker 2>head on pillow, and you know, in his clothes.

0:44:00.600 --> 0:44:02.320
<v Speaker 1>He didn't even take off his leather jacket.

0:44:03.280 --> 0:44:06.160
<v Speaker 3>Connie Nielsen comes in in season eight, So I do

0:44:06.239 --> 0:44:08.680
<v Speaker 3>think that season seven they're setting up the problems.

0:44:09.280 --> 0:44:10.520
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, I think you're right.

0:44:11.080 --> 0:44:12.520
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and she knew something.

0:44:12.600 --> 0:44:16.239
<v Speaker 2>He's sleeping at the precinct because it's not we have

0:44:16.360 --> 0:44:19.240
<v Speaker 2>work to do sleep. It's I'm thinking about life sleep,

0:44:19.320 --> 0:44:20.880
<v Speaker 2>you know what. I It's not like I got to

0:44:20.920 --> 0:44:24.000
<v Speaker 2>catch the guy, because sometimes they have that too, but

0:44:24.160 --> 0:44:27.480
<v Speaker 2>we do analyze their sleeps. Okay, so we're at Mercy Hospital.

0:44:27.520 --> 0:44:29.759
<v Speaker 2>It's the mom and Carly's tabler's in a suit. Now,

0:44:30.320 --> 0:44:32.520
<v Speaker 2>where was that in his locker? Did he go home?

0:44:32.600 --> 0:44:34.800
<v Speaker 2>Did he shower after she took the kids to school?

0:44:34.880 --> 0:44:38.440
<v Speaker 2>I have questions? She thanks him for finding the daughter.

0:44:38.840 --> 0:44:41.040
<v Speaker 2>He needs to ask her some questions on who did this?

0:44:41.680 --> 0:44:43.680
<v Speaker 2>Like did you ever see the face of the man

0:44:43.719 --> 0:44:45.920
<v Speaker 2>who took you? He's like talking to the girl. She says, no,

0:44:46.640 --> 0:44:48.880
<v Speaker 2>he always had the mask on and I was super

0:44:48.960 --> 0:44:51.840
<v Speaker 2>sleepy though I couldn't keep my eyes open. It's like, yeah, honey,

0:44:51.840 --> 0:44:53.480
<v Speaker 2>you've had leukemia for two months.

0:44:55.880 --> 0:45:01.400
<v Speaker 1>Fuck fucked. Yeah, I've been really sleepy lately.

0:45:01.440 --> 0:45:05.440
<v Speaker 3>And when you add like a bottle of adult cough syrup, yeah,

0:45:05.520 --> 0:45:09.560
<v Speaker 3>I'm pretty pretty knackered crazy.

0:45:11.239 --> 0:45:14.279
<v Speaker 2>She says he was nice, he didn't yell, and he

0:45:14.400 --> 0:45:15.759
<v Speaker 2>made choco fizzies.

0:45:17.200 --> 0:45:19.160
<v Speaker 1>That's not a common thing. What's going on? The mom

0:45:19.200 --> 0:45:19.680
<v Speaker 1>cuts in.

0:45:20.920 --> 0:45:23.400
<v Speaker 2>She goes, when Carly was little, she hated milk, So

0:45:23.440 --> 0:45:27.960
<v Speaker 2>they miss chocolate syrup and seltzer together and you know,

0:45:28.000 --> 0:45:30.680
<v Speaker 2>they giggle and Carly says, my brother called it a

0:45:30.760 --> 0:45:36.480
<v Speaker 2>choco fizzy. Stabler goes, oh, really, and the mom realizes

0:45:36.640 --> 0:45:41.880
<v Speaker 2>that the information is probably implicating that her first she

0:45:41.920 --> 0:45:44.880
<v Speaker 2>has another child. She's not mentioned and he must be

0:45:44.920 --> 0:45:48.839
<v Speaker 2>involved because not everyone's having choco fizzies. But also does

0:45:48.880 --> 0:45:50.640
<v Speaker 2>that mean she didn't recognize it was her brother this

0:45:50.680 --> 0:45:53.120
<v Speaker 2>whole time? But she is a very small girl, and

0:45:53.160 --> 0:45:55.799
<v Speaker 2>there I guess there was a voice changer. So then

0:45:56.719 --> 0:45:58.959
<v Speaker 2>Stabler brings the mom up and like takes her away

0:45:59.000 --> 0:45:59.960
<v Speaker 2>from the hospital bed.

0:46:00.320 --> 0:46:01.520
<v Speaker 1>Maybe her child needs a n app.

0:46:02.040 --> 0:46:05.600
<v Speaker 2>She's going through chemo actively right now, and Stabler asks

0:46:05.640 --> 0:46:09.280
<v Speaker 2>her if she has another child, and she says, Daniel,

0:46:09.480 --> 0:46:12.960
<v Speaker 2>he's twenty three, but we haven't seen him in five years,

0:46:13.320 --> 0:46:15.759
<v Speaker 2>and so Stabler is like, why wouldn't you mention him?

0:46:15.800 --> 0:46:17.799
<v Speaker 2>And the mom is fuming, Oh my god, he did this.

0:46:17.920 --> 0:46:20.319
<v Speaker 2>He took Carly. As sailor goes, why would you? Why

0:46:20.320 --> 0:46:22.719
<v Speaker 2>would that happen? And the mom goes, cause he's a cokehead.

0:46:23.120 --> 0:46:25.400
<v Speaker 2>It was, and it was giving coke head. There's a

0:46:25.400 --> 0:46:27.799
<v Speaker 2>bag under the thing, there's a thing, we're going over here,

0:46:27.880 --> 0:46:31.600
<v Speaker 2>the paranoia, the stair, you know, it's like so funny

0:46:31.640 --> 0:46:31.880
<v Speaker 2>to me.

0:46:32.000 --> 0:46:34.600
<v Speaker 1>He said, this is coke d behavior. She said.

0:46:34.640 --> 0:46:41.240
<v Speaker 2>We tried everything, boot camp, rehab, counseling. Nothing worked. So basically,

0:46:41.239 --> 0:46:44.800
<v Speaker 2>when Carly was three, went into his bedroom, found a stash,

0:46:44.960 --> 0:46:47.240
<v Speaker 2>and she walked in right as Carly was putting drugs

0:46:47.239 --> 0:46:49.760
<v Speaker 2>in her mouth. She says he almost killed his sister.

0:46:50.000 --> 0:46:53.160
<v Speaker 2>He was so high and he didn't fucking care. So

0:46:53.440 --> 0:46:54.960
<v Speaker 2>she knew Carly wasn't gonna be safe.

0:46:55.160 --> 0:46:55.560
<v Speaker 1>Daniel.

0:46:55.760 --> 0:46:57.839
<v Speaker 2>This is what she says. And we can talk about this.

0:46:58.280 --> 0:47:00.760
<v Speaker 2>Daniel was eighteen. They cut him out of their lives.

0:47:00.800 --> 0:47:02.920
<v Speaker 2>They go, he's eighteen, it's up to him. We we

0:47:03.040 --> 0:47:06.120
<v Speaker 2>did everything we could. He wasn't gonna get better. And

0:47:06.280 --> 0:47:08.200
<v Speaker 2>the last time I talked was the day he left

0:47:09.000 --> 0:47:12.040
<v Speaker 2>now because I'm thinking about breaking bad and like Jungle

0:47:12.080 --> 0:47:16.120
<v Speaker 2>Fever and certain movies, and it's like, yeah, if someone's

0:47:16.640 --> 0:47:18.640
<v Speaker 2>in their twenties thirty, it's dangerous.

0:47:18.719 --> 0:47:19.359
<v Speaker 1>You've done enough.

0:47:19.360 --> 0:47:22.120
<v Speaker 2>You're enabling if you help them, like they they're ruining

0:47:22.120 --> 0:47:23.520
<v Speaker 2>our lives, they've been robbing you.

0:47:23.520 --> 0:47:24.480
<v Speaker 1>You have to kick him out.

0:47:25.280 --> 0:47:30.160
<v Speaker 2>Eighteen to me is really young to give up on

0:47:30.200 --> 0:47:32.399
<v Speaker 2>your kid and never speak to him again. He ran

0:47:32.440 --> 0:47:35.920
<v Speaker 2>away from rehab once, like put him back, get him arrested,

0:47:36.360 --> 0:47:41.240
<v Speaker 2>Like I don't understand, and I and now I understand

0:47:41.239 --> 0:47:43.200
<v Speaker 2>why she let her daughter of leukemia for months and

0:47:43.200 --> 0:47:45.759
<v Speaker 2>didn't listen to her, Like this mom is bad, Like

0:47:46.280 --> 0:47:48.920
<v Speaker 2>addiction does not mean you were bad at parenting, but

0:47:49.440 --> 0:47:52.839
<v Speaker 2>this woman is mm hmm, what.

0:47:52.760 --> 0:47:57.000
<v Speaker 3>Are your thoughts? No, I thought the same, really harsh.

0:47:57.040 --> 0:47:59.840
<v Speaker 3>You could say. You could say I can't have you

0:47:59.880 --> 0:48:01.920
<v Speaker 3>in the house because you are physically a danger to

0:48:02.000 --> 0:48:04.520
<v Speaker 3>our other child, but like, we're gonna get you into

0:48:04.560 --> 0:48:06.719
<v Speaker 3>a program. We're gonna do this, Like I know that

0:48:06.760 --> 0:48:09.719
<v Speaker 3>doesn't always work, but it's not like you're eighteen out

0:48:09.760 --> 0:48:11.799
<v Speaker 3>of the house. And she says, I never saw him

0:48:11.840 --> 0:48:15.160
<v Speaker 3>since the day he left. What you never checked on him, like,

0:48:15.239 --> 0:48:19.360
<v Speaker 3>I don't know how that's Honestly, the whole episode, I

0:48:19.440 --> 0:48:22.239
<v Speaker 3>kept thinking, oh, she's he's just the dad's son, like

0:48:22.280 --> 0:48:24.279
<v Speaker 3>he's the dad's son from a previous relationship. Because the

0:48:24.320 --> 0:48:26.560
<v Speaker 3>way the mom is acting, I don't know how you

0:48:26.600 --> 0:48:30.120
<v Speaker 3>could fucking do that like eighteen, Like I'm not I

0:48:30.520 --> 0:48:32.000
<v Speaker 3>totally get you have a three year old in the

0:48:32.040 --> 0:48:35.399
<v Speaker 3>house that you have to protect, but like there are programs,

0:48:35.440 --> 0:48:37.000
<v Speaker 3>there are like you could send him to live with

0:48:37.040 --> 0:48:40.040
<v Speaker 3>a relative. You guys like seem like you were able

0:48:40.080 --> 0:48:42.360
<v Speaker 3>to get three hundred k for the ransom, so you've

0:48:42.400 --> 0:48:46.080
<v Speaker 3>got like you've got resources, you know what I mean, Like, yeah,

0:48:46.120 --> 0:48:47.200
<v Speaker 3>you're out, you're eighteen.

0:48:47.280 --> 0:48:49.760
<v Speaker 2>That's it, goodbye, Like I don't know. That's so crazy

0:48:49.760 --> 0:48:51.880
<v Speaker 2>to me. Because I was being judgmental about the Leukemian.

0:48:51.920 --> 0:48:53.800
<v Speaker 2>Then I was like, oh, I guess if you're really poor,

0:48:53.840 --> 0:48:56.640
<v Speaker 2>like you can't go to doctor's appointments, like you wouldn't

0:48:56.640 --> 0:48:58.520
<v Speaker 2>put it all together. You might be working a few

0:48:58.600 --> 0:49:00.799
<v Speaker 2>jobs and you might not even notice so like you

0:49:00.960 --> 0:49:03.080
<v Speaker 2>need the kid at school or whatever, Like I was saying,

0:49:03.160 --> 0:49:05.359
<v Speaker 2>Then I go, but these people do have money. They

0:49:05.400 --> 0:49:07.920
<v Speaker 2>live in a nice building, like they have insurance. He's

0:49:07.960 --> 0:49:12.000
<v Speaker 2>the bank manager. Like, yeah, it is, you have so

0:49:12.400 --> 0:49:15.160
<v Speaker 2>much to give to your kids. But I don't think

0:49:15.239 --> 0:49:17.040
<v Speaker 2>she sees children. I don't think this is someone that

0:49:17.040 --> 0:49:19.680
<v Speaker 2>should not have been a parent. I do not like her.

0:49:20.280 --> 0:49:22.359
<v Speaker 2>I don't like her coldness. I don't think she lives

0:49:22.400 --> 0:49:25.000
<v Speaker 2>because obviously your son is screaming for help.

0:49:25.360 --> 0:49:26.799
<v Speaker 1>He's a team cokehead.

0:49:27.200 --> 0:49:29.560
<v Speaker 3>But I think that's like a lot of people have

0:49:29.719 --> 0:49:33.880
<v Speaker 3>this thing that's like you're choosing to do drugs, stop

0:49:33.960 --> 0:49:36.480
<v Speaker 3>doing drugs, and it's like that's not addiction, you know,

0:49:36.560 --> 0:49:39.480
<v Speaker 3>like that's a fundamental misunderstanding of it what addiction is.

0:49:39.560 --> 0:49:42.040
<v Speaker 2>And like, I don't know. I feel like.

0:49:43.840 --> 0:49:46.680
<v Speaker 3>I hear what Yeah, like what you said, Like yes,

0:49:46.760 --> 0:49:49.279
<v Speaker 3>of course you can get people tens and twenties of

0:49:49.360 --> 0:49:51.239
<v Speaker 3>chances or whatever, and then at a certain point you're

0:49:51.280 --> 0:49:56.120
<v Speaker 3>enabling eighteen, like barely an adult, Like I don't know,

0:49:56.600 --> 0:49:58.000
<v Speaker 3>And there was a lot more they.

0:49:57.960 --> 0:49:58.680
<v Speaker 1>Could have done for him.

0:49:58.840 --> 0:50:01.480
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, And the way she evens phrased it, I wish

0:50:01.520 --> 0:50:03.719
<v Speaker 2>I like was more exact in the way I wrote it,

0:50:03.760 --> 0:50:06.279
<v Speaker 2>but it was like, well, he was eighteen, we had

0:50:06.320 --> 0:50:08.200
<v Speaker 2>done what we could and it was a lost cause.

0:50:08.600 --> 0:50:10.640
<v Speaker 3>He wasn't going to get better, Like, how do you

0:50:10.719 --> 0:50:13.160
<v Speaker 3>know he's not a sixty five year old cooked?

0:50:13.280 --> 0:50:18.200
<v Speaker 2>You know? Has he ran away once from rehab? Yeah,

0:50:18.239 --> 0:50:19.719
<v Speaker 2>some people usually have to go to rehab.

0:50:19.800 --> 0:50:22.440
<v Speaker 3>Like I think nine times that sounds a lot like

0:50:22.760 --> 0:50:25.799
<v Speaker 3>this is hard. And now I have another kid who

0:50:25.880 --> 0:50:27.640
<v Speaker 3>is I can start over with.

0:50:28.280 --> 0:50:33.360
<v Speaker 2>And because I'm thinking about euphoria another because I'm not

0:50:33.640 --> 0:50:36.360
<v Speaker 2>you know afoura where it's like the mom had to

0:50:36.400 --> 0:50:38.680
<v Speaker 2>be tough and off like rough with her, but it's

0:50:38.719 --> 0:50:39.520
<v Speaker 2>still your child.

0:50:39.560 --> 0:50:41.239
<v Speaker 1>There's like a lot like she is.

0:50:43.120 --> 0:50:47.320
<v Speaker 2>Not for me. So anyways, so yeah, she doesn't talked

0:50:47.320 --> 0:50:49.920
<v Speaker 2>to him. He wasn't going to get better by it. Okay,

0:50:49.960 --> 0:50:53.080
<v Speaker 2>So she says, you may think I'm cold. Yeah we did.

0:50:53.560 --> 0:50:55.960
<v Speaker 2>But I love my son but I hate the junkie

0:50:56.040 --> 0:50:58.799
<v Speaker 2>he has become. But I cannot help him and I

0:50:58.840 --> 0:51:01.719
<v Speaker 2>cannot make him better. Oh I did write it exact. Wow,

0:51:01.760 --> 0:51:04.959
<v Speaker 2>I'm really good at this. Okay. So Stabler asks where

0:51:05.000 --> 0:51:07.880
<v Speaker 2>her husband is, and he's at work at the bank.

0:51:07.960 --> 0:51:10.800
<v Speaker 2>So Melinda walks in as the mom goes back to Cary,

0:51:10.880 --> 0:51:12.320
<v Speaker 2>and Stabler's like, what's up? What?

0:51:12.840 --> 0:51:13.520
<v Speaker 1>Hey? Can we talk?

0:51:13.600 --> 0:51:15.480
<v Speaker 2>What do you know about family is an addiction, and

0:51:15.520 --> 0:51:18.120
<v Speaker 2>she goes, actually, I did a rotation at a methadone clinic.

0:51:18.600 --> 0:51:21.080
<v Speaker 1>She's done it all. He says, I might need your help.

0:51:21.120 --> 0:51:22.520
<v Speaker 2>So they go to the bank and they bring up

0:51:22.600 --> 0:51:24.880
<v Speaker 2>Daniel and they say he might be involved, and the

0:51:24.920 --> 0:51:26.960
<v Speaker 2>dad says, you're wrong, and they're like, well, we know

0:51:27.000 --> 0:51:29.600
<v Speaker 2>about the addiction. He leads them to his office. He goes,

0:51:29.640 --> 0:51:32.000
<v Speaker 2>he's a good kid. Drugs fucked him up. He wouldn't

0:51:32.080 --> 0:51:35.400
<v Speaker 2>hurt his sister. And it's like, well, he actually drugged

0:51:35.440 --> 0:51:37.960
<v Speaker 2>her and left her in an abandoned rock salt factory

0:51:38.000 --> 0:51:40.440
<v Speaker 2>in a pad locked the rooms she was in after

0:51:41.080 --> 0:51:42.759
<v Speaker 2>giving her a bottle of Clough syrups. So I guess

0:51:42.760 --> 0:51:43.759
<v Speaker 2>he would, I guess he would.

0:51:44.840 --> 0:51:46.439
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, And it's like he left her on the ground

0:51:46.520 --> 0:51:49.920
<v Speaker 3>underneath a bunch of trash, like you know, like for

0:51:50.000 --> 0:51:53.279
<v Speaker 3>your little sister. Couldn't have drugged her and left her

0:51:53.320 --> 0:51:55.640
<v Speaker 3>like propped up on something like I don't know.

0:51:55.719 --> 0:51:59.120
<v Speaker 2>His family has so many secrets. It's really so dysfunctional.

0:51:59.160 --> 0:52:02.680
<v Speaker 2>So Melinda says, cocaine changes people, and he goes, listen, yeah,

0:52:02.719 --> 0:52:04.920
<v Speaker 2>I still talk to my son. My wife doesn't know.

0:52:05.560 --> 0:52:08.720
<v Speaker 2>She like, I just couldn't cut him off. I couldn't

0:52:08.760 --> 0:52:11.120
<v Speaker 2>do it. It's still my son. But the last time

0:52:11.120 --> 0:52:12.560
<v Speaker 2>we talked to him, and it's like, so crazy.

0:52:12.560 --> 0:52:14.960
<v Speaker 3>You're just married to somebody that doesn't match your level

0:52:14.960 --> 0:52:15.759
<v Speaker 3>of empathy at all.

0:52:15.800 --> 0:52:17.840
<v Speaker 1>That's so weird, Like that's strange.

0:52:17.400 --> 0:52:19.680
<v Speaker 3>To me that you're like, we're just gonna keep going

0:52:19.680 --> 0:52:22.520
<v Speaker 3>on with our life and we're happily married, but she

0:52:22.680 --> 0:52:24.560
<v Speaker 3>wants to cut off a full person that we made

0:52:24.600 --> 0:52:29.000
<v Speaker 3>and raised, Like it's I don't know whatever.

0:52:29.239 --> 0:52:33.920
<v Speaker 2>He says he was in trouble, sounded scared and asked

0:52:33.920 --> 0:52:36.959
<v Speaker 2>for the money, but it was too much money. So

0:52:37.040 --> 0:52:39.359
<v Speaker 2>like his wife would find out, he couldn't do it.

0:52:39.400 --> 0:52:42.080
<v Speaker 2>He says, it's all my fault. Suddenly we hear full

0:52:42.120 --> 0:52:44.880
<v Speaker 2>machine gun shots bam bam, like ten shots are fired.

0:52:45.200 --> 0:52:47.919
<v Speaker 2>It's a bank robbery. It's the same mask. It's his son,

0:52:48.239 --> 0:52:50.319
<v Speaker 2>So what's that mask for? What's that mask for? In

0:52:50.360 --> 0:52:50.920
<v Speaker 2>real life?

0:52:51.320 --> 0:52:54.160
<v Speaker 3>It's just a terrifying clear mask, Like what's that for?

0:52:54.520 --> 0:52:55.520
<v Speaker 3>Is that a coffee?

0:52:55.560 --> 0:52:57.239
<v Speaker 2>What are you talking about? It's like the movie Strangers,

0:52:57.280 --> 0:52:58.359
<v Speaker 2>which you probably haven't seen.

0:52:58.719 --> 0:53:01.040
<v Speaker 3>I've seen. I think I've seen the cover of it.

0:53:01.080 --> 0:53:03.160
<v Speaker 3>But like I don't know, like that, or it's the purge.

0:53:03.200 --> 0:53:04.879
<v Speaker 2>I don't know what kind of mass this is, but yeah,

0:53:04.880 --> 0:53:06.480
<v Speaker 2>it's for crimes and scary Halloween.

0:53:06.719 --> 0:53:08.680
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but it's I don't know.

0:53:09.040 --> 0:53:12.360
<v Speaker 2>Stabler asks Melinda if she has her PDA, which confused me.

0:53:12.440 --> 0:53:14.440
<v Speaker 2>But Melinda takes out a phone or a walkie or

0:53:14.440 --> 0:53:16.640
<v Speaker 2>like some sort of I think PDAs are like, yeah,

0:53:16.719 --> 0:53:20.960
<v Speaker 2>like pom pilots. Yeah, like whatever. She gets Craigan over there.

0:53:21.200 --> 0:53:23.560
<v Speaker 2>He screams, everyone on the ground. His dad's not getting

0:53:23.560 --> 0:53:25.879
<v Speaker 2>on the ground. The guy keeps screaming behind the mask.

0:53:25.960 --> 0:53:28.960
<v Speaker 2>The dad continues to stand and says Daniel, So now

0:53:28.960 --> 0:53:30.839
<v Speaker 2>he removes his mask. Everyone knows who he was. He

0:53:30.960 --> 0:53:35.480
<v Speaker 2>is drugged up, he is sweaty, yeah yeah, and there's

0:53:35.520 --> 0:53:37.960
<v Speaker 2>a baby crying. It's such a busy bank. It's like

0:53:38.000 --> 0:53:40.640
<v Speaker 2>a cartoon, Like I don't think banks are this busy.

0:53:41.480 --> 0:53:44.280
<v Speaker 2>Maybe Friday's at five pm before cell phones were invented.

0:53:46.239 --> 0:53:48.840
<v Speaker 2>So he's pointing a gun at the dad, who asks,

0:53:48.840 --> 0:53:50.000
<v Speaker 2>are you really gonna shoot me?

0:53:50.600 --> 0:53:52.240
<v Speaker 1>Maybe? I mean this guy's crazy.

0:53:52.560 --> 0:53:54.879
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, So the dad gets on the ground and he's

0:53:54.920 --> 0:53:57.680
<v Speaker 2>stressed out of course, and then Daniel does not know

0:53:57.760 --> 0:54:01.280
<v Speaker 2>that Stabler and Melinda are here. Sailor's crawl ass up?

0:54:01.600 --> 0:54:04.279
<v Speaker 2>Okay with the guy he is? The cakes are in

0:54:04.440 --> 0:54:08.480
<v Speaker 2>the air. He's like Spider Man crawling. It's really funny.

0:54:08.480 --> 0:54:11.560
<v Speaker 2>He's like in a Discovery Zone jungle gym. It's silly.

0:54:11.880 --> 0:54:16.600
<v Speaker 2>So then Stabler finally stands up and to shoot the robber,

0:54:17.040 --> 0:54:20.040
<v Speaker 2>and the dad sees Stabler about to shoot his child

0:54:20.640 --> 0:54:26.120
<v Speaker 2>and screams, don't shoot and shoves Stabler down. Daniel hears it,

0:54:26.239 --> 0:54:30.960
<v Speaker 2>starts spraying bullets. Stabler lunges out of the way. Daniel

0:54:31.040 --> 0:54:33.239
<v Speaker 2>asks who the fuck is back there? So the dad

0:54:33.280 --> 0:54:36.040
<v Speaker 2>gives up Warner and Stabler. Would you have stopped someone

0:54:36.080 --> 0:54:38.800
<v Speaker 2>from shooting your bank robber coked up son who kidnapped

0:54:38.800 --> 0:54:39.200
<v Speaker 2>her daughter?

0:54:39.640 --> 0:54:40.760
<v Speaker 1>Or would you let him get shot?

0:54:41.120 --> 0:54:41.600
<v Speaker 2>I don't know.

0:54:41.840 --> 0:54:43.840
<v Speaker 3>I feel like that's a that's a game time. I

0:54:43.840 --> 0:54:46.680
<v Speaker 3>feel like you're telling me it's like patience. She's twenty

0:54:46.719 --> 0:54:48.279
<v Speaker 3>three and she is robbing a bake.

0:54:49.160 --> 0:54:55.239
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, uh, I don't know.

0:54:55.440 --> 0:54:57.719
<v Speaker 1>I think I would do whatever I had to to

0:54:58.000 --> 0:54:58.840
<v Speaker 1>save her life.

0:54:59.120 --> 0:55:02.319
<v Speaker 2>No, yeah, Stabler should have tried to get a shot in,

0:55:02.440 --> 0:55:05.240
<v Speaker 2>not next to the father of who she's trying to shoot.

0:55:05.880 --> 0:55:09.800
<v Speaker 2>Melinda's so Melinda says, get me the gun, Daniel whatever.

0:55:09.880 --> 0:55:13.040
<v Speaker 2>So he wants the cops out. He wants the gun

0:55:13.040 --> 0:55:15.239
<v Speaker 2>on the floor, do it or I'll kill everyone. So

0:55:15.680 --> 0:55:17.560
<v Speaker 2>he does the thing where the thing from the bottom

0:55:17.719 --> 0:55:20.360
<v Speaker 2>flies out of the gun, and he does instead of

0:55:20.360 --> 0:55:22.680
<v Speaker 2>purse first, the gun first, like he like, reach out

0:55:22.719 --> 0:55:23.760
<v Speaker 2>of the doorway.

0:55:23.960 --> 0:55:27.400
<v Speaker 3>Walk into the club, gun first, yeah, and then the

0:55:27.440 --> 0:55:30.040
<v Speaker 3>bullet battery it falls out. So they both walk out.

0:55:30.080 --> 0:55:32.319
<v Speaker 2>Stablor tries to talk to him, but he tells him

0:55:32.320 --> 0:55:35.200
<v Speaker 2>to shut the fuck up. Melinda says, you're high. It's like,

0:55:35.600 --> 0:55:38.520
<v Speaker 2>well yeah. He starts searching Stabler. The Dad's like, why

0:55:38.560 --> 0:55:40.680
<v Speaker 2>are you doing this? He goes like, you don't know.

0:55:41.000 --> 0:55:42.920
<v Speaker 2>I told you I needed money. They were going to

0:55:43.000 --> 0:55:44.840
<v Speaker 2>kill me, and Stabley goes, who is going to kill you?

0:55:44.920 --> 0:55:46.480
<v Speaker 2>He goes, I owe a lot of people money and

0:55:46.520 --> 0:55:48.520
<v Speaker 2>if I don't pay them, I'm a dead man. And

0:55:48.560 --> 0:55:50.279
<v Speaker 2>he's like, and you wouldn't help me because you don't

0:55:50.280 --> 0:55:53.799
<v Speaker 2>care about And then the dad stands up and goes, yes,

0:55:53.880 --> 0:55:55.360
<v Speaker 2>I do. And he says, you threw me on the

0:55:55.360 --> 0:55:57.239
<v Speaker 2>street and I had nowhere to go, And the dad

0:55:57.280 --> 0:55:59.480
<v Speaker 2>gets stern, you went to rehab and you ran away

0:56:00.040 --> 0:56:02.280
<v Speaker 2>and then the son goes, you only care about Carly,

0:56:02.840 --> 0:56:05.160
<v Speaker 2>and then you know whatever, he's screaming for the woman

0:56:05.160 --> 0:56:06.959
<v Speaker 2>that went to the vault to get more money. She's like, hurry,

0:56:07.160 --> 0:56:09.080
<v Speaker 2>hurry up. I don't know why didn't mention the vault earlier?

0:56:09.160 --> 0:56:12.719
<v Speaker 2>You know, he wants money. So then he goes your

0:56:12.760 --> 0:56:14.400
<v Speaker 2>mom and I love you very much, and he's like,

0:56:14.400 --> 0:56:17.400
<v Speaker 2>why wouldn't you help me? Like, why didn't you help me?

0:56:17.480 --> 0:56:18.960
<v Speaker 2>So then the woman comes out from the vault with

0:56:19.000 --> 0:56:21.279
<v Speaker 2>all the money. Stabler tries to communicate with Melinda with

0:56:21.280 --> 0:56:22.439
<v Speaker 2>his eyes, but it's too late.

0:56:23.120 --> 0:56:24.279
<v Speaker 1>He walks like.

0:56:24.320 --> 0:56:26.680
<v Speaker 2>He grabs Stabler, a gun to Stabler's head and walks

0:56:26.760 --> 0:56:27.560
<v Speaker 2>tries to walk him out.

0:56:27.680 --> 0:56:30.000
<v Speaker 1>Now Daniel is stunned. He's a coke head.

0:56:30.040 --> 0:56:32.520
<v Speaker 2>He doesn't realize there's about to be police cars, dozens

0:56:32.560 --> 0:56:33.800
<v Speaker 2>of them, cops guns.

0:56:33.840 --> 0:56:35.000
<v Speaker 1>This is a bank ruppery.

0:56:35.600 --> 0:56:38.920
<v Speaker 2>Sue Kragan screams, hold your fire, hold your fire, but

0:56:39.160 --> 0:56:41.719
<v Speaker 2>the dude's scared, so instead of water, he goes back inside.

0:56:42.040 --> 0:56:44.000
<v Speaker 2>And then the security guard decides he wants to be

0:56:44.040 --> 0:56:47.000
<v Speaker 2>a hero. He starts shooting. He shoots at Daniel, misses

0:56:47.040 --> 0:56:49.759
<v Speaker 2>every single shot, so Daniel turns around to shoot him back.

0:56:49.800 --> 0:56:52.080
<v Speaker 2>The security guard drops to the ground behind the desk.

0:56:52.400 --> 0:56:55.759
<v Speaker 2>Daniel shoots his own father a bunch, So now there's

0:56:55.800 --> 0:56:58.800
<v Speaker 2>blood everywhere. Melinda puts her bare hands on the pouring

0:56:58.800 --> 0:57:01.400
<v Speaker 2>out blood over his heart and the dad is dying.

0:57:01.640 --> 0:57:05.239
<v Speaker 2>So Craigan's in charge outside and like obviously everyone wants

0:57:05.239 --> 0:57:07.479
<v Speaker 2>to like shoot everyone in there, and Craigan goes, please

0:57:07.480 --> 0:57:10.799
<v Speaker 2>don't do them. So then he also calls this guy

0:57:10.840 --> 0:57:13.880
<v Speaker 2>a scared kid. He is twenty three, he has so

0:57:13.960 --> 0:57:16.880
<v Speaker 2>the other guy so funny. He goes, a kid, the

0:57:16.960 --> 0:57:19.600
<v Speaker 2>guy you mean with a mac ten high on coke

0:57:19.640 --> 0:57:23.600
<v Speaker 2>and a dozen hostages. Ha ha. So yeah, Craigan goes, yeah,

0:57:23.600 --> 0:57:25.280
<v Speaker 2>he's in over his head. He's looking for a way out.

0:57:25.360 --> 0:57:28.160
<v Speaker 2>Let's give him a way out. So Ruby Morales calls

0:57:28.200 --> 0:57:28.520
<v Speaker 2>the bank.

0:57:28.560 --> 0:57:28.919
<v Speaker 1>It rings.

0:57:28.920 --> 0:57:31.280
<v Speaker 2>Stabler explains it's a negotiator, like tell him what you want,

0:57:31.360 --> 0:57:33.960
<v Speaker 2>let's get you out of here. And he goes, I

0:57:33.960 --> 0:57:35.560
<v Speaker 2>don't know what I want. It's like, well we'll figure

0:57:35.560 --> 0:57:37.520
<v Speaker 2>it out together, just answer it. So he makes Stable

0:57:37.600 --> 0:57:40.680
<v Speaker 2>answer the phone. Craigan announced himself and he goes, hey,

0:57:40.680 --> 0:57:42.760
<v Speaker 2>it's dawn, and we don't hear that. A lot of

0:57:42.880 --> 0:57:45.840
<v Speaker 2>like that, and will he let the hostages leave. Daniel

0:57:45.880 --> 0:57:48.480
<v Speaker 2>says no, but like that that's his only leverage, and

0:57:48.480 --> 0:57:50.520
<v Speaker 2>Stela goes, no, they're not gonna shoot you if they

0:57:50.560 --> 0:57:52.200
<v Speaker 2>have me. I'm a cop, they're not gonna kill me. Like,

0:57:52.280 --> 0:57:54.280
<v Speaker 2>let these other people out. As long as you have me,

0:57:54.360 --> 0:57:56.600
<v Speaker 2>you're safe. So Daniel goes, okay, fine, so he lets

0:57:56.600 --> 0:57:59.479
<v Speaker 2>everybody out, and also it's like, your father needs a doctor,

0:57:59.520 --> 0:58:01.200
<v Speaker 2>but he goes, well, is the doctor doesn't matter? And

0:58:01.200 --> 0:58:02.920
<v Speaker 2>Melinda goes, no, we need to get him to a hospital.

0:58:03.200 --> 0:58:05.480
<v Speaker 2>And also I need an AIDS test. I fully put

0:58:05.520 --> 0:58:09.800
<v Speaker 2>my full hand into his like wound what? And so

0:58:09.920 --> 0:58:12.360
<v Speaker 2>Daniel thinks and looks at his bloody dad and is

0:58:12.360 --> 0:58:14.680
<v Speaker 2>like final, let everyone else out. So Melinda and the

0:58:14.720 --> 0:58:17.120
<v Speaker 2>vult girls start carrying the dad out, but he collapses

0:58:17.200 --> 0:58:19.640
<v Speaker 2>and then a bunch of hostages are running out. Melinda

0:58:19.640 --> 0:58:22.160
<v Speaker 2>says the dad lost too much blood. I can't move him,

0:58:22.560 --> 0:58:25.520
<v Speaker 2>and so she's like so then Daniel's like, fuck, my dad,

0:58:25.840 --> 0:58:26.640
<v Speaker 2>is he gonna die?

0:58:26.800 --> 0:58:28.439
<v Speaker 1>And it's like you shot him?

0:58:29.160 --> 0:58:30.920
<v Speaker 2>He says, dad, I didn't mean to do this, and

0:58:30.960 --> 0:58:32.840
<v Speaker 2>he has his gun on Stabler during all of it.

0:58:33.040 --> 0:58:33.960
<v Speaker 1>So everyone's out of the bank.

0:58:33.960 --> 0:58:36.320
<v Speaker 2>The only people left in their warner bloody dad, stabler,

0:58:36.360 --> 0:58:39.160
<v Speaker 2>gun son. Donna is on the call says, okay, how

0:58:39.200 --> 0:58:41.480
<v Speaker 2>can we help Daniel? He responds, nobody can help me.

0:58:41.520 --> 0:58:44.280
<v Speaker 2>I'm going to jail. I shot my dad. The dad goes,

0:58:44.320 --> 0:58:47.040
<v Speaker 2>it's okay, son, it was an accident. They're both the

0:58:47.040 --> 0:58:50.560
<v Speaker 2>worst parents of all time in every direction, and Daniel goes, Yep,

0:58:50.640 --> 0:58:52.760
<v Speaker 2>I'm sure they'll like, let me just walk on out

0:58:52.760 --> 0:58:55.280
<v Speaker 2>of here. What the fuck are you talking about? Melinda goes,

0:58:55.320 --> 0:58:57.640
<v Speaker 2>you let all those people go. That's gonna count for something.

0:58:57.840 --> 0:58:58.040
<v Speaker 1>Now.

0:58:58.080 --> 0:59:01.560
<v Speaker 2>The dad starts coughing up blood Rooge style. So then

0:59:01.640 --> 0:59:04.400
<v Speaker 2>Daniel asks what's happening to him? And then Melinda says,

0:59:04.440 --> 0:59:07.600
<v Speaker 2>his lungs are collapsing. She takes off his coat and

0:59:07.640 --> 0:59:10.720
<v Speaker 2>she does. Do you like the Sandra Bullock Melissa McCarthy

0:59:10.800 --> 0:59:14.920
<v Speaker 2>movie The Heat Love? I love when she tries to

0:59:14.960 --> 0:59:17.560
<v Speaker 2>do this and it goes so wrong, Like that was

0:59:17.840 --> 0:59:21.720
<v Speaker 2>to me such pure comedy, so shocking, so surprising, a

0:59:21.760 --> 0:59:23.600
<v Speaker 2>scene that just like, I love it.

0:59:23.920 --> 0:59:25.160
<v Speaker 1>I want to rewatch that movie.

0:59:25.360 --> 0:59:28.240
<v Speaker 2>But here's you know, it's Melinda, but she just takes

0:59:28.280 --> 0:59:33.400
<v Speaker 2>sharp scissors, fucking cuts into his skin. The prosthetics department

0:59:33.440 --> 0:59:36.000
<v Speaker 2>did incredible work here, Like you really see the hole

0:59:36.040 --> 0:59:39.680
<v Speaker 2>open up. She scissors it, puts like the pen tube

0:59:39.760 --> 0:59:45.560
<v Speaker 2>into his lung, and Daniel screams, hurry up. She's cutting

0:59:45.600 --> 0:59:48.040
<v Speaker 2>her dad open and putting a pen straw in his lung.

0:59:48.120 --> 0:59:48.280
<v Speaker 1>Eye.

0:59:48.280 --> 0:59:48.480
<v Speaker 2>I know.

0:59:50.600 --> 0:59:53.720
<v Speaker 3>So anyways, there's a thing in the in the wiki

0:59:53.760 --> 0:59:56.000
<v Speaker 3>that like where people like to point out goofs, and

0:59:56.040 --> 0:59:58.240
<v Speaker 3>they do say that when she puts the plastic tube in,

0:59:58.360 --> 1:00:03.120
<v Speaker 3>she puts it in the wrong place, but whatever whatever.

1:00:03.560 --> 1:00:06.480
<v Speaker 3>It also says that the machine dots. It says they

1:00:06.480 --> 1:00:08.680
<v Speaker 3>do do dots, but there's no way that they could

1:00:08.720 --> 1:00:11.360
<v Speaker 3>come through on a fax machine, so that that part's

1:00:11.400 --> 1:00:14.360
<v Speaker 3>fakedo wrong. But it's like we didn't even know about

1:00:14.360 --> 1:00:16.920
<v Speaker 3>the dots. Okay, we're still processing the dots.

1:00:17.760 --> 1:00:22.120
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's it's also like with surgery, I get saving

1:00:22.120 --> 1:00:23.920
<v Speaker 2>a life, like rules go out the window, but like

1:00:24.320 --> 1:00:28.040
<v Speaker 2>it seems like cleanliness is very important and so it

1:00:28.080 --> 1:00:31.240
<v Speaker 2>seems crazy to just like jab a scissor into a lung.

1:00:31.520 --> 1:00:35.600
<v Speaker 2>But yes, well I didn't do two tours in Ramstein,

1:00:35.800 --> 1:00:39.520
<v Speaker 2>so yeah, I don't know. I don't know. So anyways,

1:00:39.880 --> 1:00:42.480
<v Speaker 2>Melinda is doing her job. She cuts them open. Everything's happening.

1:00:42.520 --> 1:00:44.920
<v Speaker 2>It's really gross. He's grunting, but we need to get

1:00:44.960 --> 1:00:47.480
<v Speaker 2>him to a hospital. Dad is bleeding everywhere out of

1:00:47.480 --> 1:00:49.800
<v Speaker 2>his mouth, so he tries to apologize his dad. I

1:00:49.800 --> 1:00:52.160
<v Speaker 2>would say, too late, but the dad's pretty supportive and goes,

1:00:52.160 --> 1:00:55.080
<v Speaker 2>we're gonna be okay. Daniel sniffs a little bit because

1:00:55.120 --> 1:00:57.960
<v Speaker 2>he is on cocaine and says yeah. So he turns

1:00:57.960 --> 1:01:00.840
<v Speaker 2>around starts shooting out the bank doors, glass everywhere. He

1:01:00.880 --> 1:01:02.680
<v Speaker 2>tells his mom, you know. He goes, tell mom, I

1:01:02.720 --> 1:01:05.360
<v Speaker 2>love her, and he's trying to do suicide by cop.

1:01:05.400 --> 1:01:07.160
<v Speaker 1>He's walking out, like shooting out.

1:01:07.200 --> 1:01:10.320
<v Speaker 2>But guess what, Melinda has a gun shoots him from

1:01:10.600 --> 1:01:13.320
<v Speaker 2>like behind to his leg. He falls down. The dad

1:01:13.360 --> 1:01:16.120
<v Speaker 2>says no, and Stabler goes, Melinda just saved your fucking

1:01:16.240 --> 1:01:19.080
<v Speaker 2>son's life, and so they arrest him. They take the

1:01:19.120 --> 1:01:21.520
<v Speaker 2>dad to the hospital. The mom's on the scene. Rough

1:01:21.520 --> 1:01:24.360
<v Speaker 2>week for the family. Son gets put in the back

1:01:24.400 --> 1:01:26.160
<v Speaker 2>of the police car. The mom says, I don't know

1:01:26.160 --> 1:01:29.200
<v Speaker 2>what to say to him. To Melinda and she says nothing.

1:01:29.240 --> 1:01:31.040
<v Speaker 2>The mom walks away. She doesn't want to look at him.

1:01:31.160 --> 1:01:33.120
<v Speaker 2>Stabler and Melinda have a moment, and he's like, are

1:01:33.120 --> 1:01:35.600
<v Speaker 2>you gonna be okay? And she just says, I have

1:01:35.640 --> 1:01:39.120
<v Speaker 2>to pick up my daughter from school. Yeah, and then

1:01:39.120 --> 1:01:40.840
<v Speaker 2>she just turns around. I'm sure they're going to make

1:01:40.840 --> 1:01:44.320
<v Speaker 2>her see the work psychologist, but she walks off and

1:01:44.400 --> 1:01:47.480
<v Speaker 2>she's just like puzzled and really confused. She has a

1:01:47.480 --> 1:01:50.160
<v Speaker 2>lot of emotions on her face. And then Stabler watches

1:01:50.200 --> 1:01:52.760
<v Speaker 2>her leave and that's stick wolf baby, thank you so much.

1:01:53.280 --> 1:01:56.200
<v Speaker 2>Fun episode, fun electric, cool.

1:01:56.080 --> 1:02:00.560
<v Speaker 3>Episode and fun that when they were like listen, Ben's away,

1:02:00.920 --> 1:02:04.040
<v Speaker 3>who can pinch hit a little bit? And it's like Melinda,

1:02:04.160 --> 1:02:05.920
<v Speaker 3>let's give Hwang an episode, you.

1:02:05.880 --> 1:02:07.800
<v Speaker 2>Know, like I like it?

1:02:08.600 --> 1:02:09.680
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, get a lot.

1:02:10.280 --> 1:02:12.960
<v Speaker 2>I'm excited. I mean, yeah, let's see what happens. Tell

1:02:13.000 --> 1:02:14.760
<v Speaker 2>me I know nothing. I know nothing. I don't know

1:02:14.880 --> 1:02:17.840
<v Speaker 2>that seems like one. I'm not excited because I know death.

1:02:17.920 --> 1:02:20.200
<v Speaker 2>But like, to me, this is one that's one of

1:02:20.200 --> 1:02:22.840
<v Speaker 2>my favorites. Again, I can't believe the show is so

1:02:22.960 --> 1:02:24.920
<v Speaker 2>good that I'm like, have we not done this? I

1:02:24.960 --> 1:02:27.120
<v Speaker 2>love this so because we haven't done it, I assumed

1:02:27.160 --> 1:02:29.960
<v Speaker 2>it wasn't even based on a crime, because I was like,

1:02:29.960 --> 1:02:36.680
<v Speaker 2>why wouldn't we have done it?

1:02:37.920 --> 1:02:42.520
<v Speaker 3>Okay, So it's based on two crimes. The first one

1:02:42.960 --> 1:02:47.120
<v Speaker 3>is the bank robbery part of it. The North Hollywood shootout,

1:02:47.160 --> 1:02:49.280
<v Speaker 3>is what this is based on. And I had not

1:02:49.400 --> 1:02:51.680
<v Speaker 3>heard of this, And you know, I mean, I guess

1:02:51.960 --> 1:02:57.120
<v Speaker 3>we're more in the the murder sexual assault like arena

1:02:57.200 --> 1:02:59.360
<v Speaker 3>and not as much into like bank robberies, but this

1:02:59.400 --> 1:03:03.320
<v Speaker 3>one is why. So on February twenty eighth, nineteen ninety seven,

1:03:04.040 --> 1:03:08.680
<v Speaker 3>Larry Phillips Junior and Emil Mada sau Renu arrived at

1:03:08.680 --> 1:03:13.520
<v Speaker 3>a Bank of America in North Hollywood. They set their watches,

1:03:13.560 --> 1:03:16.600
<v Speaker 3>which they had sewn to the outside of a glove.

1:03:16.720 --> 1:03:18.640
<v Speaker 1>They each had watches sewn on.

1:03:19.200 --> 1:03:21.800
<v Speaker 3>They set their watches for eight minutes, which is how

1:03:21.840 --> 1:03:23.919
<v Speaker 3>long they estimated it would take the police to arrive,

1:03:23.960 --> 1:03:27.360
<v Speaker 3>which they figured out by monitoring police scanners prior to

1:03:27.400 --> 1:03:30.240
<v Speaker 3>the robbery. And I'm sorry, I don't condone robbery, but

1:03:30.280 --> 1:03:33.560
<v Speaker 3>I do love logistics, so I'm loving that they're like, okay,

1:03:33.600 --> 1:03:35.240
<v Speaker 3>synchronized watches, let's do this.

1:03:35.760 --> 1:03:39.080
<v Speaker 2>They both walk, but not even that watch sewn into

1:03:39.160 --> 1:03:39.720
<v Speaker 2>the gloves.

1:03:39.800 --> 1:03:42.040
<v Speaker 3>Sewn into the glove. Baby, they need to get a

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<v Speaker 3>project runway. These two guys, speaking of Projeck runway. They

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<v Speaker 3>walked into this bank, each wearing about forty pounds of

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<v Speaker 3>homemade body armor, like we're talking bulletproof vests, but then

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<v Speaker 3>other bulletproof stuff that they had like turned into shin guards,

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<v Speaker 3>like all kinds of shit.

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<v Speaker 2>Like they are a lot of they know each other.

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<v Speaker 2>I wonder how they meet, Like how do the bank

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<v Speaker 2>robbers meet? When do you bring it up? Like are

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<v Speaker 2>you having beers and go do you want to do this?

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<v Speaker 2>Or do they meet in the bank robbing circuit. That's

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<v Speaker 2>why I love the movie The Minions because of the

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<v Speaker 2>evil convention. I'm like, this gives me a lot of insight,

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<v Speaker 2>Like this is how they're meeting. It makes sense. How

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<v Speaker 2>were these guys meeting?

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<v Speaker 3>No, honestly, I'm I don't know how they met each other.

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<v Speaker 3>But they started robbing banks together in ninety three and

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<v Speaker 3>banks and armored cars, so they were doing that, and

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know what their friendship is, to be honest,

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<v Speaker 3>but they found each other maybe yes, on a bank

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<v Speaker 3>robbery thread on an old GeoCities blog or something. So

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<v Speaker 3>they set the watches, they head in with forty pounds

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<v Speaker 3>of body armor. Before they enter the bank, they took

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<v Speaker 3>Fena barbital, which is a barbituate that was prescribed to

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<v Speaker 3>Matasarayenu as a sedative, and they took that to calm

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<v Speaker 3>their nerves.

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<v Speaker 1>Why did I think it was a drag queen? That

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<v Speaker 1>does make it? For Oh?

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, Pena barbital is a drag queens thing. She makes

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<v Speaker 3>a lot of the wigs for Trixy and Katia. Yeah

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<v Speaker 3>she I think Fena does wigs too.

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<v Speaker 1>Ohh.

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<v Speaker 2>Who's the one that was kind of gothic on the

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<v Speaker 2>show and then like got kicked off? Layla, Leyla, that's

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<v Speaker 2>one thing. Yeah, Layla does.

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<v Speaker 3>Make up really well, I guess, I mean does for

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<v Speaker 3>other people.

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<v Speaker 1>I think she was good on the show, but.

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<v Speaker 2>She got knocked out pretty quch Oh no, I think

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<v Speaker 2>she went an Emmy for Bob Macopi's show.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah yeah, yeah, Leayla's like very well respected.

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<v Speaker 1>So wait, will you repeat that.

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<v Speaker 2>I was so distracted by it being a drag queen

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<v Speaker 2>that I forgot what like what you were saying.

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<v Speaker 3>Basically, they both they took they took this phena barbital.

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<v Speaker 3>They took a barbituate that one of them had a

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<v Speaker 3>prescription to as a sedative, and they took it to

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<v Speaker 3>calm their nerves, like so they could like be chill.

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<v Speaker 1>Group is not coked out planned well.

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<v Speaker 3>Toxicology reports later showed a fedrin and fennel propennolamine in

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<v Speaker 3>Phillips's blood and fenytoin in Matsurayanu's blood.

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<v Speaker 2>And I didn't even look these up, but.

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<v Speaker 3>One is an anti convulsive treatment for epilepsy. Another is

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<v Speaker 3>a decongestent and appetites of pressint. I do not know

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<v Speaker 3>why these things are in the information about what they

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<v Speaker 3>had in their systems. And then a fedrin is like

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<v Speaker 3>a speedy thing, isn't it like fen like from the eighties?

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<v Speaker 3>Let's say, yeah, a fedron is a stimulant, so but

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<v Speaker 3>also can treat hypotension.

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<v Speaker 2>So I think that's how people have got thin in

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<v Speaker 2>the nineties. Yeah, it's the nineties.

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<v Speaker 3>These guys are trying to stay trim and rob banks, Okay,

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<v Speaker 3>So they enter the bank at nine sixteen. When they're inside,

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<v Speaker 3>Phillips yells, this is a fucking hold up, and they

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<v Speaker 3>both shoot their guns at the ceiling a bunch of

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<v Speaker 3>times to scare the people in the bank. And the

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<v Speaker 3>bank is filled with like thirty or so people customers

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<v Speaker 3>and staff, and they want to send a message like

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<v Speaker 3>don't fucking try to come for us. We've got, you know, guns,

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<v Speaker 3>and there's they're automatic weapons. So they force a manager

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<v Speaker 3>to open the vault fill a bag with money, but

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<v Speaker 3>because of a change to the bank's delivery schedule, the

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<v Speaker 3>vault had way less than the seven hundred and fifty

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<v Speaker 3>k that these gunmen were expecting. Mada Sarienu is furious

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<v Speaker 3>and demands more money from the manager. Then he fires

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<v Speaker 3>seventy five rounds into the bank safe, which destroys much

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<v Speaker 3>of the remaining money. Then he tries to open the

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<v Speaker 3>bank's ATM, but due to a policy change, the manager

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<v Speaker 3>can no longer get into the ATM to that money.

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<v Speaker 3>So then they put all the hostages in the bank

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<v Speaker 3>vault and they lock it and they leave with three

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<v Speaker 3>hundred and three thousand, three hundred and five dollars plus

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<v Speaker 3>three die packs, which later exploded, ruining some of the money.

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<v Speaker 1>Because the guy in.

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<v Speaker 3>The episode is like, no die packs, right, like he's

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<v Speaker 3>got an eye out for it. So unfortunately for these two,

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<v Speaker 3>when you walk into a bank with automatic weapons and

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<v Speaker 3>tons of homemade body armor, people do notice you. So

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<v Speaker 3>two cops did see them walking into the bank, which

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<v Speaker 3>is they didn't count on that, like when they were

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<v Speaker 3>calculating their eight minutes, and they immediately called it in

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<v Speaker 3>like possible robbery.

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<v Speaker 1>At this Bank of America.

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<v Speaker 3>So when they these robbers go to exit the bank,

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<v Speaker 3>uh oh, the lapd is there, and an action movie

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<v Speaker 3>style shootout between cops and robbers does begin.

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<v Speaker 2>Wait, is there air in the the vault? Because that

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<v Speaker 2>would be the best if there was a bank robbery

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<v Speaker 2>and they put me in the vault, I'd feel happy.

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<v Speaker 1>I'd be like, thank God, I'm out of danger.

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<v Speaker 3>But I'm just yeah, I mean, I think it's definitely

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<v Speaker 3>like a few hours worth of air, Like I wouldn't

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<v Speaker 3>want to be locked in there for a long time.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know. Well, now they've converted a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>vaults and banks into nightclubs and bars.

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<v Speaker 3>So I've done standing up in a vault. Yeah, I've

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<v Speaker 3>done stand up in a bank vault. It's kind of great.

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<v Speaker 3>The sound is like really can be really good because

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<v Speaker 3>it keeps it all in like all the laughs.

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<v Speaker 1>But so this big shootout start.

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<v Speaker 3>These two try to get away matas Sarienu after being

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<v Speaker 3>shot in the ass the arm and getting a laceration

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<v Speaker 3>in his eye socket, abandons the double bag of money

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<v Speaker 3>and gets in the getaway car, which is a white

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<v Speaker 3>nineteen eighty seven Chevrolet celebrity and Phillips, who had been

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<v Speaker 3>trying to get into the car but was shot in

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<v Speaker 3>the shoulder and also a shot hit his gun, so

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<v Speaker 3>he abandoned the car, and he still had another gun obviously,

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<v Speaker 3>and he fled on foot. So while they're all the

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<v Speaker 3>while this is happening, they're continuing you shoot at the

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<v Speaker 3>cops and the cops are shooting back at them.

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<v Speaker 1>The shootout continued on.

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<v Speaker 3>A residential street, with matas Siinu following Phillips to try

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<v Speaker 3>to get him in the car, like he's like driving

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<v Speaker 3>kind of alongside him, and then they eventually split up

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<v Speaker 3>when one of them like gets like Phillips gets behind

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<v Speaker 3>a truck and then Phillips, who's been badly shot, eventually

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<v Speaker 3>just shoots himself under the chin, and right after that

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<v Speaker 3>a cops shoots him in the spine, and they said

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<v Speaker 3>either could be the cause of death, but Phillips ends it. Meanwhile,

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<v Speaker 3>Matasiinu is continuing to chaotically cruise down the street. He's

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<v Speaker 3>crashing into other cars, he's trying and failing to carjack

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<v Speaker 3>a bunch of people at nine to fifty six, so

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<v Speaker 3>literally forty minutes have passed.

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<v Speaker 2>Do we get the rights to this? How is this

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<v Speaker 2>not a movie?

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, at nine.

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<v Speaker 3>Fifty six, he tries to carjack a yellow nineteen sixty

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<v Speaker 3>three Jeep Gladiator by shooting at the driver, who gets away,

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<v Speaker 3>but not before the driver flips some kind of electrical

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<v Speaker 3>kill switch which makes the car undriveable. So then Mata

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<v Speaker 3>Siennu gets into a gunfight with the cops that apparently

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<v Speaker 3>is almost two point five minutes of uninterrupted gunfire, like

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<v Speaker 3>just gun shots NonStop for two and a half minutes.

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<v Speaker 3>And then after this guy gets shot so many times

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<v Speaker 3>he's finally down, they call an ambulance while he's apparently

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<v Speaker 3>loudly swearing and trying to get the cops to shoot him.

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<v Speaker 3>He's like daring the cops to shoot him. He dies

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<v Speaker 3>before the ambulance and the EMTs can get there, and

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<v Speaker 3>he'd been shot twenty nine times in the legs and

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<v Speaker 3>died from blood loss from two gun shot wounds in

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<v Speaker 3>his left eigh.

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<v Speaker 2>I wonder if it's because he took that calmbing pill

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<v Speaker 2>like he was chill.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I guess it makes you not panic when you

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<v Speaker 3>get shot the first twenty seven or so times. I

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<v Speaker 3>don't know, like that's a lot of times to get

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<v Speaker 3>fucking shot. So later his kids actually filed a lawsuit

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<v Speaker 3>against the LAPD an officer and a detective who were

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<v Speaker 3>at the scene, claiming that his civil rights have been

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<v Speaker 3>violated and that he was allowed to bleed to death.

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<v Speaker 1>They say that an ambulance crew did arrive.

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<v Speaker 3>So apparently when there's something like this going on that

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<v Speaker 3>wherever there's the danger, it's called the hot zone, and

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<v Speaker 3>like they're not going to call any ambulances into the

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<v Speaker 3>hot zone because ambulance drivers are not law enforcement, Like

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<v Speaker 3>they're not you know, they're there to help people. They're

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<v Speaker 3>not there to like dodge gunfire.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. So you can't pay someone hourly and then throw

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<v Speaker 2>them in the gun yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, So like they don't get called into like this

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<v Speaker 3>hot zone. But what they're alleging is that the ambulance

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<v Speaker 3>crew did, but they left after one of the cops

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<v Speaker 3>told the crew to quote, get the fuck out of there.

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<v Speaker 3>And I think the cop even said in trial that

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<v Speaker 3>he said something to that effect, but he probably said like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>but because it was a hot zone still and then

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<v Speaker 3>you know, an ambulance driver said he didn't feel safe

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<v Speaker 3>and felt like he was his life was in danger.

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<v Speaker 3>And then apparently the officer said, well, we tried to

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<v Speaker 3>get an ambulance to come back or get.

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<v Speaker 2>A different one. But they allege the kids lawsuit.

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<v Speaker 3>A ledge is that one of those cops canceled the

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<v Speaker 3>ambulance and told the dispatcher, I have no officers or

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<v Speaker 3>citizens down, only a suspect. So I don't know, but

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<v Speaker 3>the case was tried in two thousand and ended with

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<v Speaker 3>a hung jury, and then the family later dropped the lawsuit,

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<v Speaker 3>so they never got any civil money from these two

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<v Speaker 3>cops for letting their dad bleed out.

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<v Speaker 1>But crazy, I've never heard of a lawsuit like that,

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<v Speaker 1>I know.

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<v Speaker 3>So then, so basically, yeah, Phillips and Motes Sorien, who

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<v Speaker 3>had robbed at least two other banks, they'd robbed armored cars,

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<v Speaker 3>they used illegal guns that they had modified to be

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<v Speaker 3>automatic weapons. Initially, the cops like were honestly not getting

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<v Speaker 3>anywhere with these guys because they were so heavily armored,

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<v Speaker 3>that they brought in the LAPD squad team with more

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<v Speaker 3>high powered weapons, and this shootout sparked like a whole

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<v Speaker 3>debate about the need for patrol officers to upgrade their

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<v Speaker 3>firepower to semi automatic rifles so that they could be

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<v Speaker 3>prepared for situations like this, which I'm like, okay, cool.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean part of me is also like, can't we

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<v Speaker 3>like apprehend robbers without just like a full fucking shootout.

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<v Speaker 3>But I guess these guys could have killed people.

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<v Speaker 2>Too, so.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I don't know, but it contributed to the eventual

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<v Speaker 3>arming of police officers in LA with semi automatic rifles

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<v Speaker 3>and nationwide, So this was like a big thing late

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<v Speaker 3>nineties crime, Like, let's give the cops semi automatic weapons.

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<v Speaker 3>Twelve police officers eight civilians were injured in the shootout,

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<v Speaker 3>but nobody else, no other casualties except for the robbers themselves.

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<v Speaker 3>Due to the large number of injuries and rounds fire,

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<v Speaker 3>the equipment used by these robbers the length of the shootout,

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<v Speaker 3>it's considered one of the most intense and significant gun

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<v Speaker 3>battles in.

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<v Speaker 1>US police history. That's crazy.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, the two Roberts fired approximately eleven hundred rounds in total,

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<v Speaker 3>and the cops six hundred and fifty rounds. But another

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<v Speaker 3>estimate says that it was a total of almost two

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<v Speaker 3>thousand rounds were fired.

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<v Speaker 1>So that's the that's fucked.

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<v Speaker 3>That's the that's the battle of the Battle of North Hollywood,

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<v Speaker 3>the North Hollywood shootout. Here is the case that this

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<v Speaker 3>is more like that the kidnapping is based on which

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<v Speaker 3>I'm just going to get every ready to head up,

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<v Speaker 3>has some horrific details in it. So this is the

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<v Speaker 3>Marion Parker case. Francis Marion Parker, though she went by Marion,

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<v Speaker 3>was a twelve year old girl who was kidnapped and

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<v Speaker 3>murdered in Los Angeles in December of nineteen twenty seven,

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<v Speaker 3>in what the La Times called quote the most horrible

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<v Speaker 3>crime of the nineteen twenties. So on December fifteenth, nineteen

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<v Speaker 3>twenty seven, Marion is at Mount Vernon Junior High School

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<v Speaker 3>when a man pretending to to be one of her

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<v Speaker 3>father's employees signs her out of school with the registrar

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<v Speaker 3>saying her father, Perry, has been in a car accident

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<v Speaker 3>and he wants his daughter to be brought to him,

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<v Speaker 3>and the registrar let her go with him because she

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<v Speaker 3>thought he seemed nice and it seemed like they maybe

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<v Speaker 3>knew each other. On December sixteenth, the Parker family gets

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<v Speaker 3>a ransom note asking for fifteen hundred dollars, which is

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<v Speaker 3>about twenty eight thousand dollars today, and they wanted in

1:15:27.800 --> 1:15:32.920
<v Speaker 3>twenty dollars gold certificates. So these ransom notes come by telegram,

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<v Speaker 3>and they had varying signatures Fate, death, the Fox. Some

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<v Speaker 3>had words written in Greek on them. The first note

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<v Speaker 3>came from Pasadena and said do positively nothing till you

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<v Speaker 3>receive special delivery letter. The second was from Alhambra and said,

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<v Speaker 3>Marian secure, use good judgment. Interference with my plans dangerous.

1:15:51.600 --> 1:15:53.840
<v Speaker 3>A third one said no one will ever see the

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<v Speaker 3>girl again except the angels in heaven, and they signed

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<v Speaker 3>the letter fate and also the Greek word for death.

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<v Speaker 2>We never really get to a very angie cassa vedas.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, very.

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<v Speaker 2>Pro Greek.

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<v Speaker 3>This is Greek propaganda, like angiekats in the Vedas is

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<v Speaker 3>like a full plant from the Greek tourism industry.

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<v Speaker 2>I feel, well, it's just funny that like her daughter's like, Mom,

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<v Speaker 2>why did you make Greek? Like you're being embarrassing, like

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<v Speaker 2>to have your daughter go, why are you being so Greek?

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<v Speaker 3>Right?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it just makes me really laught so wild.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>So Marian's father, Perry Parker, worked at a bank much

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<v Speaker 3>like the dad in this episode, okay, and he made

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<v Speaker 3>an attempt at a ransom drop, but when the kidnapper

1:16:40.320 --> 1:16:43.679
<v Speaker 3>realized that he had involved the police, he the kidnapper

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<v Speaker 3>like ghosted. So then Parker gets another telegram for the

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<v Speaker 3>kid from the kidnapper, berating him for the press attention

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<v Speaker 3>that the case was getting and also like you know,

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<v Speaker 3>lecturing him for getting the police involved. In a following telegram,

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<v Speaker 3>he told Parker that he would only keep her alive

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<v Speaker 3>for one more day, and this part of the letter

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<v Speaker 3>also included a portion of the letter written in Marian's handwriting,

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<v Speaker 3>begging him to do the drop without police involvement. So

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<v Speaker 3>now two ransom telegrams arrive on December seventeenth, so now

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<v Speaker 3>she's been missing for two days. That read PM Parker,

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<v Speaker 3>please recover your senses. I want your money rather than

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<v Speaker 3>to kill your child, but so far you have given

1:17:25.160 --> 1:17:28.400
<v Speaker 3>me no other alternative. And the other message said, Fox

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<v Speaker 3>is my name, very sly you know, set no traps,

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<v Speaker 3>I'll watch for them. Get this straight exclamation point. Remember

1:17:35.479 --> 1:17:37.959
<v Speaker 3>that life hangs by a thread I have a Gillette

1:17:38.000 --> 1:17:41.040
<v Speaker 3>ready and I'm able to handle the situation. So these

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<v Speaker 3>are very threatening. So now it's time for the ransom drop.

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<v Speaker 3>On twelve seventeen, Perry has convinced the authorities to let

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<v Speaker 3>him go alone with no police, So he gets to

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<v Speaker 3>the drop point with the money around eight o'clock and

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<v Speaker 3>is quickly approached by the suspect driving a Chrysler Coop.

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<v Speaker 3>He pulls up next to Perry's car with and holds

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<v Speaker 3>him at gunpoint with a sowd off shotgun, and he

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<v Speaker 3>has a bandana covering most of his face and Parry

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<v Speaker 3>like an ice agent, a different kind of criminal. And

1:18:09.080 --> 1:18:12.160
<v Speaker 3>Parry could see Marian in the passenger seat of the car,

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<v Speaker 3>sitting there but not moving, and he called her name,

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<v Speaker 3>but there was no response, and he was confused because

1:18:16.960 --> 1:18:19.320
<v Speaker 3>her eyes were opened, but he just assumed she had

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<v Speaker 3>been drugged and it was also so basically what happened

1:18:25.000 --> 1:18:28.679
<v Speaker 3>was the kidnapper grabs the money, drives off, and tosses

1:18:28.720 --> 1:18:31.400
<v Speaker 3>Marian's body out of the car as he speeds off.

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<v Speaker 3>There's some outlets that reported that he said, there's your

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<v Speaker 3>daughter as he threw the body out of the car.

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<v Speaker 3>Now this is very graphic in case anybody wants to,

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know fast forward, but her limbs had been

1:18:43.200 --> 1:18:49.679
<v Speaker 3>cut off, her eyes were sewed open with wires, and

1:18:49.760 --> 1:18:54.439
<v Speaker 3>she had been disemboweled, and her abdominal cavity was stuffed

1:18:54.439 --> 1:18:56.439
<v Speaker 3>with like a towel and a man's shirt, like a

1:18:56.439 --> 1:18:59.080
<v Speaker 3>bunch of towels and a man's shirt. The limbs were

1:18:59.160 --> 1:19:03.360
<v Speaker 3>later found in Alesion Park. The coroner confirmed that she

1:19:03.400 --> 1:19:08.000
<v Speaker 3>had actually died twelve hours earlier and actually during the pandemic.

1:19:08.320 --> 1:19:10.920
<v Speaker 3>In twenty twenty, they did a reboot of Perry Mason

1:19:10.920 --> 1:19:13.720
<v Speaker 3>that I watched and very much enjoyed, and in the

1:19:13.760 --> 1:19:16.559
<v Speaker 3>first season, the whole premise of it is that this

1:19:16.600 --> 1:19:19.599
<v Speaker 3>little baby is kidnapped a much younger child, a baby,

1:19:19.640 --> 1:19:21.960
<v Speaker 3>but when the kidnappers deliver the kid in the show,

1:19:22.000 --> 1:19:25.880
<v Speaker 3>he also has his eyes like son open, so there's

1:19:26.160 --> 1:19:29.840
<v Speaker 3>They say that this case inspired that season looselyate I

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<v Speaker 3>think just because of the eye situation. In the show,

1:19:33.120 --> 1:19:35.960
<v Speaker 3>the baby died because he would overdose being breastfed by

1:19:35.960 --> 1:19:40.080
<v Speaker 3>a heroin using sex worker. In real life, there's a

1:19:40.080 --> 1:19:43.120
<v Speaker 3>different reason why he does it, So obviously, this crime

1:19:43.240 --> 1:19:47.879
<v Speaker 3>is so fucking horrific that's so it's so fucked and like, honestly,

1:19:48.560 --> 1:19:49.800
<v Speaker 3>the disemboweling, I.

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<v Speaker 2>Don't like that she had only died twelve hours earlier,

1:19:52.240 --> 1:19:54.200
<v Speaker 2>Like that means she was alive for this shit, Like

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<v Speaker 2>what the fuck? Or not?

1:19:55.439 --> 1:19:56.120
<v Speaker 1>Or they did it that.

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<v Speaker 3>Day, Like well, I'm going to get into it, but

1:19:59.160 --> 1:20:02.720
<v Speaker 3>it's like, I don't know, I don't know why. So

1:20:02.960 --> 1:20:08.320
<v Speaker 3>obviously a man hunt begins immediately, twenty thousand police officers volunteers, Like,

1:20:08.320 --> 1:20:09.920
<v Speaker 3>there's a fifty thousand dollars reward.

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<v Speaker 2>This isn't for ransom, this is a Sickoh, this is

1:20:13.040 --> 1:20:14.880
<v Speaker 2>like a psycho you know.

1:20:15.200 --> 1:20:18.360
<v Speaker 3>Well yeah, well yeah, there's there's like more to it,

1:20:18.400 --> 1:20:23.679
<v Speaker 3>but yes, absolutely. The fifty thousand dollars reward is later

1:20:23.840 --> 1:20:26.240
<v Speaker 3>up to one hundred thousand because so many donations from

1:20:26.280 --> 1:20:31.200
<v Speaker 3>the public flooded in. Three days after the whole ransom

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<v Speaker 3>drop body discovery, the abandoned car that was used was found,

1:20:36.200 --> 1:20:39.439
<v Speaker 3>and it had been stolen in San Diego like earlier,

1:20:39.560 --> 1:20:41.920
<v Speaker 3>and they found the car, the authorities were able to

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<v Speaker 3>get fingerprints off the car door, and from these prints,

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<v Speaker 3>the murderer was quickly identified as nineteen year old William

1:20:50.120 --> 1:20:55.639
<v Speaker 3>Edward Hickman nineteen, who was actually a former coworker of

1:20:55.720 --> 1:20:59.559
<v Speaker 3>Perry Parker at the bank, so not his son, but

1:21:00.160 --> 1:21:03.479
<v Speaker 3>former coworker, and they had worked together at First National

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<v Speaker 3>Bank of Los Angeles, and the year before, Hickman had

1:21:07.080 --> 1:21:10.719
<v Speaker 3>been arrested after Perry like ratted him out for forging

1:21:10.720 --> 1:21:14.320
<v Speaker 3>four hundred dollars in stolen checks. Hickman ended up getting probation,

1:21:14.479 --> 1:21:17.080
<v Speaker 3>moving to Kansas City and for six months, but he

1:21:17.120 --> 1:21:20.639
<v Speaker 3>eventually came back to LA Another key piece of evidence

1:21:20.840 --> 1:21:23.360
<v Speaker 3>was that one of the towels that was found inside

1:21:23.360 --> 1:21:28.160
<v Speaker 3>of Marion's abdominal cavity was traced to an apartment complex

1:21:28.200 --> 1:21:31.320
<v Speaker 3>called Bellevue Arms, where it turned out that Hickman had

1:21:31.320 --> 1:21:35.920
<v Speaker 3>recently moved in under the alias Donald Evans. So in

1:21:36.200 --> 1:21:39.280
<v Speaker 3>searching his apartment at Bellvue Arms, they found bloody fingerprints,

1:21:39.280 --> 1:21:42.839
<v Speaker 3>They found newspaper clippings about the kidnapping, and burnt ransom

1:21:42.880 --> 1:21:45.400
<v Speaker 3>notes like he had written some mistake ransom notes and

1:21:45.400 --> 1:21:48.280
<v Speaker 3>then burned them. And then a janitor at Bellevue Arms

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<v Speaker 3>said he saw Hickman carrying several packages to his car

1:21:51.000 --> 1:21:53.880
<v Speaker 3>on the night of December sixteenth, and then saw him

1:21:53.920 --> 1:21:57.320
<v Speaker 3>wiping down his car's seats the next day. I don't

1:21:57.320 --> 1:22:00.600
<v Speaker 3>know if that ended up ever proving anything, but the

1:22:00.640 --> 1:22:04.680
<v Speaker 3>police tracked Hickman through Oregon, Washington State. This guy is

1:22:04.760 --> 1:22:07.840
<v Speaker 3>like on the lamb for a few days, and along

1:22:07.880 --> 1:22:11.599
<v Speaker 3>the way he's paying with these gold certificates from the ransom.

1:22:12.120 --> 1:22:14.880
<v Speaker 1>So then on like for hotels and random shit.

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<v Speaker 3>So then on December twenty second, it's been five days

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<v Speaker 3>since the drop, Hickman was arrested in Echo, Oregon, Okay.

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<v Speaker 3>And when they found him, he had fourteen hundred dollars

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<v Speaker 3>of the fifteen hundred dollars on him, So you'd already

1:22:27.240 --> 1:22:29.679
<v Speaker 3>spent one hundred of it, which doesn't sound like that much,

1:22:29.720 --> 1:22:32.479
<v Speaker 3>but it's a pretty big chunk of the total amount

1:22:32.479 --> 1:22:35.120
<v Speaker 3>of money that you've just blown on your getaway. So

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<v Speaker 3>when they find him, he says, quote some fiend killed her.

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<v Speaker 1>I know who he is.

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<v Speaker 2>End quote.

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<v Speaker 3>And then he said quote I did it because I

1:22:43.720 --> 1:22:46.120
<v Speaker 3>wanted the money to pay my way through college end quote.

1:22:46.320 --> 1:22:48.519
<v Speaker 3>And like I found that quote in a couple different places,

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<v Speaker 3>And like, I don't know how much time lapses between

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<v Speaker 3>him saying he didn't do it and to the end.

1:22:52.800 --> 1:22:53.479
<v Speaker 1>Yes, I did do it.

1:22:53.520 --> 1:22:56.680
<v Speaker 3>To pay for college, Like, I don't know what the order, like,

1:22:57.280 --> 1:23:00.519
<v Speaker 3>what makes him say that, but I guess.

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<v Speaker 1>He then says he kind of did it.

1:23:02.120 --> 1:23:05.599
<v Speaker 3>But in jail and Oregon, he confesses that he helped

1:23:05.720 --> 1:23:07.680
<v Speaker 3>with the kidnapping, but he said he.

1:23:07.640 --> 1:23:08.639
<v Speaker 1>Didn't do the murder.

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<v Speaker 3>That was these two brothers, Oliver and Frank Kramer, who

1:23:12.320 --> 1:23:16.040
<v Speaker 3>claimed who's he's claiming did all the murdering that killed her,

1:23:16.479 --> 1:23:20.280
<v Speaker 3>and Hickman told reporters that he actually spent a lot

1:23:20.320 --> 1:23:22.040
<v Speaker 3>of time with Mary and after he kidnapped her and

1:23:22.120 --> 1:23:24.280
<v Speaker 3>even took her to see a movie called Figures Don't

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<v Speaker 3>Lie at the rialto theater Wild he copped to the telegrams,

1:23:31.240 --> 1:23:33.719
<v Speaker 3>the ransom telegrams, the phone calls, but he said, nope,

1:23:33.760 --> 1:23:36.680
<v Speaker 3>the Kramers did the murder. But he's kind of a

1:23:36.720 --> 1:23:38.320
<v Speaker 3>fucking dumbass, and it was it must have been a

1:23:38.320 --> 1:23:40.559
<v Speaker 3>hail Mary on his part because the Kramer brothers were

1:23:40.560 --> 1:23:42.559
<v Speaker 3>in prison when the murder occurred and they had been

1:23:42.800 --> 1:23:47.080
<v Speaker 3>for months, so was not the Kramer bros. So Hickman

1:23:47.160 --> 1:23:50.519
<v Speaker 3>gets extradited to California, where he confesses also to the

1:23:50.600 --> 1:23:53.280
<v Speaker 3>murder of Clarence Ivy Tom's which had occurred during a

1:23:53.360 --> 1:23:57.880
<v Speaker 3>drugstore robbery. He also confesses to many other robberies, and

1:23:57.920 --> 1:24:01.719
<v Speaker 3>then he gives a full written confession detailing Mariam Parker's murder,

1:24:02.160 --> 1:24:05.920
<v Speaker 3>which is really really horrendous, so just get ready, this

1:24:05.960 --> 1:24:09.200
<v Speaker 3>is really bad. Hickman said he blindfolded and tied Parker

1:24:09.200 --> 1:24:11.519
<v Speaker 3>to a chair in his apartment at the Bellvue Arms,

1:24:11.840 --> 1:24:16.160
<v Speaker 3>and then he strangled her until she was unconscious. He

1:24:16.280 --> 1:24:20.679
<v Speaker 3>then hung the body upside down over his bathtub, sliced

1:24:20.720 --> 1:24:23.240
<v Speaker 3>her throat at the jugular to drain all the blood,

1:24:23.880 --> 1:24:24.760
<v Speaker 3>and then.

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<v Speaker 2>He said, I'm glad she was dead for all this.

1:24:27.760 --> 1:24:29.679
<v Speaker 1>Well, wait till my senter.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, this is all from him, so hopefully this is

1:24:33.240 --> 1:24:36.640
<v Speaker 3>not real. But after dismembering her arms and legs, he

1:24:36.720 --> 1:24:39.720
<v Speaker 3>disemboweled her, and he claimed at one point doing that

1:24:39.840 --> 1:24:42.280
<v Speaker 3>the body jerked with such force that it flew out

1:24:42.280 --> 1:24:45.760
<v Speaker 3>of the tub, which suggests that she maybe was still

1:24:45.800 --> 1:24:48.439
<v Speaker 3>alive during the dismemberment. I would like to think that

1:24:48.600 --> 1:24:50.840
<v Speaker 3>it was like a Rigor mortis type of thing, where

1:24:50.840 --> 1:24:54.160
<v Speaker 3>her body just made a move, But I cannot honestly

1:24:54.360 --> 1:24:57.800
<v Speaker 3>wrap my mind around that someone being alive for something

1:24:57.840 --> 1:25:01.599
<v Speaker 3>so awful. But he wraps the limbs in newspaper, puts

1:25:01.640 --> 1:25:04.120
<v Speaker 3>her torso in a suitcase. Then he goes to see

1:25:04.160 --> 1:25:08.519
<v Speaker 3>a movie, but he's not totally psycho. He couldn't focus

1:25:08.600 --> 1:25:11.120
<v Speaker 3>during the movie and cried throughout the entire thing, So

1:25:11.160 --> 1:25:16.559
<v Speaker 3>he's feeling remorse. I guess later, again, what was the

1:25:16.680 --> 1:25:20.040
<v Speaker 3>reason for killing her, Like, there's no reason you still

1:25:20.080 --> 1:25:22.320
<v Speaker 3>went to the drop. You could have just given her over,

1:25:22.600 --> 1:25:26.160
<v Speaker 3>like they brought the money, and all the disemboweling and

1:25:26.200 --> 1:25:28.840
<v Speaker 3>the dismembering. I guess the dismembering was probably to get

1:25:28.920 --> 1:25:31.080
<v Speaker 3>rid of the body, but I don't understand the disemboweling.

1:25:31.120 --> 1:25:33.720
<v Speaker 3>I really don't understand what any of his motives were

1:25:33.720 --> 1:25:38.400
<v Speaker 3>for this. And he realized a little later. He's like, oh,

1:25:38.720 --> 1:25:41.479
<v Speaker 3>Perry's gonna want to see his daughter at the drop

1:25:41.920 --> 1:25:44.639
<v Speaker 3>and make sure she's okay before he pays the ransom.

1:25:45.120 --> 1:25:47.960
<v Speaker 3>So then he basically tries to put her back together again.

1:25:48.360 --> 1:25:50.439
<v Speaker 3>And that's when he puts makeup on her face and

1:25:50.479 --> 1:25:53.960
<v Speaker 3>he sows her eyes open using wire, and that's you

1:25:54.000 --> 1:25:57.559
<v Speaker 3>know why she appeared to be awake sitting in the

1:25:57.640 --> 1:26:02.559
<v Speaker 3>car when her dad was to her. But Hickman told

1:26:02.600 --> 1:26:05.879
<v Speaker 3>the police quote she felt perfectly safe, and the tragedy

1:26:05.960 --> 1:26:08.400
<v Speaker 3>was so sudden and unexpected that I'm sure she never

1:26:08.439 --> 1:26:11.360
<v Speaker 3>actually suffered through the whole affair, except for a little

1:26:11.400 --> 1:26:13.880
<v Speaker 3>sobbing which she couldn't keep back for her mother and father.

1:26:14.640 --> 1:26:19.920
<v Speaker 3>End quote so very horrific, I mean in the nineteen

1:26:19.960 --> 1:26:22.840
<v Speaker 3>twenties too, like, I mean, I forgot what no Black

1:26:22.880 --> 1:26:27.639
<v Speaker 3>Dolly is later like, but these horrific like disemboweling crimes are,

1:26:27.760 --> 1:26:32.000
<v Speaker 3>and in la like what's going on at trial. Hickman's

1:26:32.040 --> 1:26:35.320
<v Speaker 3>lawyers are trying to plead that he's insane. They claim

1:26:35.400 --> 1:26:38.479
<v Speaker 3>that a god named Providence commanded him to commit these

1:26:38.520 --> 1:26:43.160
<v Speaker 3>heinous crimes. Okay, Providence is this supernatural deity making him

1:26:43.160 --> 1:26:46.320
<v Speaker 3>do this. He is one of the first defendants in

1:26:46.360 --> 1:26:49.599
<v Speaker 3>California to plead not guilty by reason of insanity, as

1:26:49.640 --> 1:26:51.040
<v Speaker 3>it was a new law at the time.

1:26:51.840 --> 1:26:55.840
<v Speaker 2>So but prison guards from the jail and Oregon.

1:26:55.560 --> 1:26:58.599
<v Speaker 3>Said that Hickman had asked them how to quote unquote

1:26:58.600 --> 1:27:02.760
<v Speaker 3>act crazy. And then a psychologist named doctor W. D.

1:27:02.960 --> 1:27:06.800
<v Speaker 3>McCarry examined Hickman and jail and said, quote his mind

1:27:06.840 --> 1:27:10.000
<v Speaker 3>seemed clear. And he also said Hickman quote told a

1:27:10.000 --> 1:27:12.639
<v Speaker 3>straight coherent story and was never at a loss for words.

1:27:12.760 --> 1:27:15.479
<v Speaker 3>There was nothing about him to indicate insanity. He says

1:27:15.520 --> 1:27:17.959
<v Speaker 3>he does not like girls, that he is deeply religious,

1:27:18.000 --> 1:27:20.799
<v Speaker 3>and that his ambition was to become a minister. Several

1:27:20.800 --> 1:27:24.840
<v Speaker 3>times he made mention of God end quote, so of

1:27:24.880 --> 1:27:29.680
<v Speaker 3>course this is a God fearing man. The prosecution introduced

1:27:30.240 --> 1:27:35.120
<v Speaker 3>that Hickman's motive was revenge for Perry Parker for testifying

1:27:35.120 --> 1:27:37.080
<v Speaker 3>against him in this forgery trial, which, by the way,

1:27:37.120 --> 1:27:39.519
<v Speaker 3>he got no jail time for. So it would be

1:27:39.560 --> 1:27:45.880
<v Speaker 3>a wild reaction to murder someone's child because you got

1:27:45.920 --> 1:27:47.839
<v Speaker 3>probation for six months for check forgery.

1:27:48.320 --> 1:27:50.479
<v Speaker 1>But it was also suggested that he may have wanted

1:27:50.479 --> 1:27:51.280
<v Speaker 1>the notoriety.

1:27:51.640 --> 1:27:54.720
<v Speaker 3>Apparently he told one reporter that he wanted as much

1:27:54.760 --> 1:27:57.400
<v Speaker 3>press as Leopold and Lobe had gotten. And I don't

1:27:57.400 --> 1:27:59.800
<v Speaker 3>know if you've heard of them, Lisa, but they were

1:27:59.800 --> 1:28:03.240
<v Speaker 3>too guys in nineteen twenty four who killed a teen

1:28:03.280 --> 1:28:05.960
<v Speaker 3>boy in Chicago, and that was called the crime of

1:28:06.000 --> 1:28:09.519
<v Speaker 3>the century at the time. So this guy, whatever his

1:28:09.640 --> 1:28:13.080
<v Speaker 3>motivations were, Hickman was found guilty and sentenced to death

1:28:13.080 --> 1:28:15.960
<v Speaker 3>in February of nineteen twenty eight. A month later, He

1:28:15.960 --> 1:28:18.360
<v Speaker 3>was found guilty of the murder of Clarence Ivy Toms

1:28:18.400 --> 1:28:19.519
<v Speaker 3>and sentenced to life for that.

1:28:20.040 --> 1:28:20.879
<v Speaker 2>He had one.

1:28:20.760 --> 1:28:23.800
<v Speaker 3>Failed appeal, but he was executed by hanging at San

1:28:23.880 --> 1:28:27.840
<v Speaker 3>Quentin in October of nineteen twenty eight, so less than

1:28:27.840 --> 1:28:30.559
<v Speaker 3>a year after the crime was committed. This guy was dead. Like,

1:28:30.720 --> 1:28:32.519
<v Speaker 3>they did not fuck around in the twenties. It's like

1:28:32.680 --> 1:28:34.800
<v Speaker 3>none of this twenty years on death row shit. Like

1:28:35.240 --> 1:28:38.360
<v Speaker 3>this guy was dead. In the months before his execution,

1:28:38.880 --> 1:28:41.720
<v Speaker 3>he apparently became a Catholic and wrote apology letters to

1:28:41.760 --> 1:28:49.000
<v Speaker 3>his victims' families. Not that it really matters, but yeah, fucked.

1:28:50.479 --> 1:28:53.519
<v Speaker 1>I mean, we don't even have a guess. I know

1:28:54.280 --> 1:28:56.559
<v Speaker 1>this is there's no palate cleanser for this one.

1:28:56.600 --> 1:28:56.920
<v Speaker 2>You guys.

1:28:56.960 --> 1:28:59.000
<v Speaker 3>I'm sorry, We're just gonna have to go straight into

1:28:59.040 --> 1:29:01.519
<v Speaker 3>our post mortem.

1:29:02.280 --> 1:29:10.400
<v Speaker 2>I mean, oh so terrible. What a sick mother fucker.

1:29:11.240 --> 1:29:15.520
<v Speaker 2>Yeah you know those guys. Yeah, okay, well.

1:29:17.240 --> 1:29:20.200
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, they like originally didn't tell her mom the details

1:29:20.240 --> 1:29:23.360
<v Speaker 3>of what happened because they knew it would just like

1:29:23.560 --> 1:29:26.280
<v Speaker 3>ruin her. So they told her that the daughter died

1:29:26.320 --> 1:29:30.320
<v Speaker 3>of like like a poison overdose or something like that.

1:29:30.520 --> 1:29:32.920
<v Speaker 2>Like, I I it's like.

1:29:32.960 --> 1:29:36.000
<v Speaker 3>Awful, But so that didn't happen to Carly in the show.

1:29:36.120 --> 1:29:40.360
<v Speaker 3>But there were just some similarities with like the ransom

1:29:40.439 --> 1:29:43.360
<v Speaker 3>and the and this guy wasn't on drugs. Apparently he

1:29:43.520 --> 1:29:46.080
<v Speaker 3>was just working at the behest of a god named

1:29:46.120 --> 1:29:49.840
<v Speaker 3>Providence or wanted to be famous. I don't know, but

1:29:51.040 --> 1:29:59.200
<v Speaker 3>let's get into our post mortem right away. Okay, So

1:29:59.360 --> 1:30:03.400
<v Speaker 3>no guests today for Blast, although I think we do

1:30:03.600 --> 1:30:06.640
<v Speaker 3>talk to Tamratuni about it, so if anybody wants to

1:30:06.640 --> 1:30:09.800
<v Speaker 3>go back and revisit that episode, we ask her about

1:30:09.800 --> 1:30:13.400
<v Speaker 3>that one for Shore. That's harm, right, I think it's

1:30:13.640 --> 1:30:16.240
<v Speaker 3>I think it's harm Harm. Yeah, it's the Abu grab

1:30:16.680 --> 1:30:17.759
<v Speaker 3>which you brought up earlier.

1:30:18.640 --> 1:30:23.519
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean we are well because some of sorry

1:30:23.600 --> 1:30:27.720
<v Speaker 2>to bring back lad Bible but it's the worst name.

1:30:28.800 --> 1:30:32.040
<v Speaker 3>But well it does sound so douchey, right because like

1:30:32.080 --> 1:30:33.799
<v Speaker 3>in England, lads are like bros.

1:30:33.920 --> 1:30:34.680
<v Speaker 2>Like lad is like.

1:30:34.680 --> 1:30:37.760
<v Speaker 3>A dude or like a like a bro kind of yeah,

1:30:37.800 --> 1:30:39.360
<v Speaker 3>and so it's like basically it's bro.

1:30:39.280 --> 1:30:41.439
<v Speaker 1>Bible, which I think is another website.

1:30:41.479 --> 1:30:44.880
<v Speaker 2>It's strange because this is the most like heart felt,

1:30:44.920 --> 1:30:47.120
<v Speaker 2>like a woman who was raised in a cult and

1:30:47.240 --> 1:30:51.599
<v Speaker 2>escaped at thirty, Like you know, these harrowing stories. It's

1:30:51.600 --> 1:30:54.320
<v Speaker 2>just like lad Bible. They need a brand shift, you

1:30:54.400 --> 1:30:56.880
<v Speaker 2>know what I mean. Yeah, but I mean they don't

1:30:56.880 --> 1:31:01.599
<v Speaker 2>need my help. They have millions of viewers. But one

1:31:01.680 --> 1:31:05.160
<v Speaker 2>of the guys is like high up in the art

1:31:05.240 --> 1:31:08.559
<v Speaker 2>he caught Saddam Hussein. He was on that mission, he

1:31:08.680 --> 1:31:13.800
<v Speaker 2>was in that apartment, and they are He's like, I

1:31:13.840 --> 1:31:16.160
<v Speaker 2>can't believe I'm getting paid for this stuff. It's my dream,

1:31:16.439 --> 1:31:19.000
<v Speaker 2>Like I can't it just because of the accountant, Like

1:31:19.040 --> 1:31:21.400
<v Speaker 2>I can't imagine being so good at shooting and doing action.

1:31:22.560 --> 1:31:27.000
<v Speaker 3>But in real life, by the way, I'm into see

1:31:27.000 --> 1:31:28.879
<v Speaker 3>I'm on season three of Slow Horses.

1:31:28.960 --> 1:31:29.960
<v Speaker 2>It's so fucking.

1:31:29.720 --> 1:31:31.439
<v Speaker 1>I've never even heard of Slow Horses.

1:31:31.560 --> 1:31:35.040
<v Speaker 3>Slow Horses is on. It's a British show. It's on

1:31:35.080 --> 1:31:41.559
<v Speaker 3>Apple and it's Gary Oldman. And why did he do

1:31:41.680 --> 1:31:44.080
<v Speaker 3>our fucking show? Oh that was that Gary Cooper? No,

1:31:44.120 --> 1:31:48.080
<v Speaker 3>it's Gary Coleman, right, Who's the Gary's never been on

1:31:48.200 --> 1:31:51.120
<v Speaker 3>s for you? Who's the guy who's in Pineapple Express?

1:31:52.439 --> 1:31:57.280
<v Speaker 2>Gary Cole, Gary Cole, Gary Cole Gary Who did you say?

1:31:58.160 --> 1:31:58.960
<v Speaker 1>Gary Oldman?

1:31:59.040 --> 1:32:04.479
<v Speaker 3>Who's like, oh, this motherfucker he ruins my life Gary Oldman.

1:32:04.680 --> 1:32:07.000
<v Speaker 2>I every time he's in the movie Game, I go, I.

1:32:06.920 --> 1:32:10.680
<v Speaker 3>Just don't remember, you know why, because he's a fucking chameleon.

1:32:11.000 --> 1:32:13.640
<v Speaker 1>He never looks the fucking same. I hate it.

1:32:13.640 --> 1:32:16.320
<v Speaker 2>I'm always like, can I just use Bram Stoker as Dracula?

1:32:16.400 --> 1:32:18.759
<v Speaker 3>Like I hate Gary Oldman is one of the wildest,

1:32:18.760 --> 1:32:20.760
<v Speaker 3>Like I bet you Gary Oldman, Like before I watch

1:32:20.800 --> 1:32:22.880
<v Speaker 3>Little Horses, like, oh, I bet you he didn't come

1:32:22.960 --> 1:32:25.160
<v Speaker 3>up to me and start talking to me like on

1:32:25.200 --> 1:32:25.920
<v Speaker 3>the sidewalk, and.

1:32:25.840 --> 1:32:27.200
<v Speaker 1>I would be like, who the fuck is this guy?

1:32:27.280 --> 1:32:30.719
<v Speaker 3>Like he just you cannot remember him for some reason

1:32:30.800 --> 1:32:34.000
<v Speaker 3>because he just like he really melts into his characters

1:32:34.080 --> 1:32:37.280
<v Speaker 3>or whatever. He's absolutely disgusting in the show. He's like

1:32:37.320 --> 1:32:41.200
<v Speaker 3>this gross. Basically the show is about really quick synopsis.

1:32:41.840 --> 1:32:45.519
<v Speaker 3>Am I five in in England is like whatever the

1:32:45.520 --> 1:32:48.479
<v Speaker 3>their FBI and they're like the kind of the rejects,

1:32:48.520 --> 1:32:50.599
<v Speaker 3>like they're still part of it kind of, but they

1:32:50.600 --> 1:32:52.880
<v Speaker 3>have their own shitty office and a shittier part of

1:32:52.920 --> 1:32:55.519
<v Speaker 3>town and he's the leader of them, and he like

1:32:55.720 --> 1:33:00.080
<v Speaker 3>farts all the time and eats really disgusting, like he's nasty.

1:33:00.120 --> 1:33:01.760
<v Speaker 3>But he's also like kind of a genius and good

1:33:01.760 --> 1:33:04.360
<v Speaker 3>at his job. Oh, and then it's about all these

1:33:04.360 --> 1:33:07.000
<v Speaker 3>people that kind of fucked up at one time. They're

1:33:07.040 --> 1:33:09.800
<v Speaker 3>all there in his group called Slough House, and they're

1:33:09.800 --> 1:33:10.479
<v Speaker 3>trying to get out.

1:33:10.920 --> 1:33:13.519
<v Speaker 1>He's in two episodes of Friends, Like, what the fuck

1:33:13.640 --> 1:33:14.439
<v Speaker 1>is this dude up to?

1:33:15.720 --> 1:33:19.320
<v Speaker 2>He's scary oldmans in two episodes of Friends. Yeah, Oh

1:33:19.360 --> 1:33:22.400
<v Speaker 2>my god, Hannibal, he was a weirdo in that.

1:33:23.360 --> 1:33:24.639
<v Speaker 1>Changes his fucking face.

1:33:24.680 --> 1:33:26.360
<v Speaker 3>Like even just googling him now, I'm like, that's not

1:33:26.400 --> 1:33:27.880
<v Speaker 3>what you look like in the show that I'm watching,

1:33:28.800 --> 1:33:32.080
<v Speaker 3>Like he looks so and he made himself look really

1:33:32.160 --> 1:33:34.200
<v Speaker 3>nasty and this like he smokes cigarettes.

1:33:34.439 --> 1:33:36.800
<v Speaker 1>Oh, and like his hair looked unwashed.

1:33:37.600 --> 1:33:41.160
<v Speaker 2>But real people are doing these things, and they're doing

1:33:41.200 --> 1:33:45.599
<v Speaker 2>these interviews and letting us know, and it's like it's

1:33:45.680 --> 1:33:50.080
<v Speaker 2>kind of crazy. There's people doing missions and taking out targets. Yeah,

1:33:50.120 --> 1:33:51.479
<v Speaker 2>this show is very all that.

1:33:51.560 --> 1:33:53.920
<v Speaker 3>It's very like House of Cards with like you know,

1:33:54.040 --> 1:33:56.519
<v Speaker 3>they're they're killing people and making it look like this

1:33:56.640 --> 1:33:58.439
<v Speaker 3>and making it look like that, and you know, the

1:33:58.439 --> 1:34:01.639
<v Speaker 3>government is and the authorities are like part of it.

1:34:01.680 --> 1:34:01.880
<v Speaker 3>You know.

1:34:02.640 --> 1:34:05.320
<v Speaker 2>I like that we're doing a postmortem for the different

1:34:05.360 --> 1:34:10.160
<v Speaker 2>episode with's more, we're like fully talking about harm.

1:34:10.720 --> 1:34:12.880
<v Speaker 3>I know, no bless wit talk. I know, we're just

1:34:12.880 --> 1:34:15.519
<v Speaker 3>doing a totally Wait. When you google Gary Oldman, one

1:34:15.520 --> 1:34:17.720
<v Speaker 3>of the like automatic questions at the bottom is what

1:34:17.760 --> 1:34:20.880
<v Speaker 3>did Gary Oldman do to Demi Moore? I was like, oh, well,

1:34:20.920 --> 1:34:23.360
<v Speaker 3>I'll be clicking on this and what is it? Says

1:34:23.400 --> 1:34:25.839
<v Speaker 3>he had to apologize to her for his quote unquote

1:34:25.840 --> 1:34:29.920
<v Speaker 3>destructive and unprofessional behavior on the set of their nineteen

1:34:29.960 --> 1:34:33.760
<v Speaker 3>ninety five film The Scarlet Letter. He was an alcoholic

1:34:33.840 --> 1:34:35.360
<v Speaker 3>at the time, and he said he was in a

1:34:35.439 --> 1:34:39.719
<v Speaker 3>very dark place. And I guess now he's not drinking anymore.

1:34:40.160 --> 1:34:40.960
<v Speaker 1>Wow. Interesting.

1:34:41.160 --> 1:34:46.800
<v Speaker 3>The Scarlet Letter was like a real bomb for Demi Moore, right, casey, No,

1:34:47.160 --> 1:34:50.400
<v Speaker 3>wasn't the was, yeah, But the Scarlet Letter was when

1:34:50.439 --> 1:34:52.720
<v Speaker 3>she tried to do something kind of like period and

1:34:52.760 --> 1:34:54.640
<v Speaker 3>serious and people didn't take her seriously.

1:34:55.600 --> 1:34:58.760
<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, I didn't know that because the jury was

1:34:58.840 --> 1:35:01.479
<v Speaker 2>kind of she did see her shit, isn't it?

1:35:01.560 --> 1:35:01.760
<v Speaker 3>Yeah?

1:35:01.760 --> 1:35:04.240
<v Speaker 1>But meg serious, like why was everyone such a hater

1:35:04.439 --> 1:35:05.520
<v Speaker 1>of this gorgeous.

1:35:05.120 --> 1:35:07.280
<v Speaker 2>Total misogyny, total misogyny.

1:35:07.280 --> 1:35:08.559
<v Speaker 3>But I think it was like just the fact that

1:35:08.600 --> 1:35:10.720
<v Speaker 3>she was trying to play It's the period of it

1:35:10.800 --> 1:35:15.200
<v Speaker 3>all like going back to that those like, you know,

1:35:15.439 --> 1:35:17.840
<v Speaker 3>speaking in a different way, using different like you know,

1:35:17.920 --> 1:35:20.479
<v Speaker 3>I don't think people I think maybe it was the

1:35:20.600 --> 1:35:22.960
<v Speaker 3>example of like Demi Moore has nineties face. You know

1:35:22.960 --> 1:35:25.880
<v Speaker 3>how people are like this person has seen an iPhone,

1:35:25.920 --> 1:35:28.120
<v Speaker 3>Like we can't we can't put this person in a

1:35:28.120 --> 1:35:28.639
<v Speaker 3>period movie.

1:35:28.800 --> 1:35:30.799
<v Speaker 1>This person has the face of someone who's seen an iPhone.

1:35:31.479 --> 1:35:33.280
<v Speaker 3>Like I think that's the thing with Demi Moore is

1:35:33.320 --> 1:35:35.400
<v Speaker 3>like I don't really believe Demi Moore, no matter how

1:35:35.439 --> 1:35:38.240
<v Speaker 3>frumpy you make her look, was like wall Goodie back

1:35:38.280 --> 1:35:39.920
<v Speaker 3>in the Scarlet Letter times.

1:35:40.040 --> 1:35:42.840
<v Speaker 2>I had a friend I forgot already who But do

1:35:42.920 --> 1:35:44.840
<v Speaker 2>you think mom Donnie gets botox?

1:35:45.640 --> 1:35:46.360
<v Speaker 1>He's so young?

1:35:46.840 --> 1:35:49.040
<v Speaker 3>I mean, not that people don't get it in their thirties,

1:35:49.040 --> 1:35:50.959
<v Speaker 3>like people get it at that age because it's preventative.

1:35:51.000 --> 1:35:53.679
<v Speaker 2>But why do you think? I don't think someone someone

1:35:53.720 --> 1:35:55.439
<v Speaker 2>else thought. And so I'm bringing it up because they're

1:35:55.439 --> 1:35:58.679
<v Speaker 2>talking about faces. They said, his smile seems bigger because

1:35:58.720 --> 1:36:00.120
<v Speaker 2>his forehead's not moving.

1:36:00.479 --> 1:36:01.760
<v Speaker 1>But I never noticed that.

1:36:02.080 --> 1:36:05.839
<v Speaker 2>But I don't think that's something I notice.

1:36:05.040 --> 1:36:08.599
<v Speaker 3>I I don't know, That's not anything I've ever noticed

1:36:08.600 --> 1:36:09.480
<v Speaker 3>about him.

1:36:10.120 --> 1:36:12.240
<v Speaker 1>I've never heard it before before.

1:36:13.439 --> 1:36:15.880
<v Speaker 2>No oh.

1:36:15.880 --> 1:36:18.080
<v Speaker 3>I did also see a subway take that I liked

1:36:18.120 --> 1:36:21.360
<v Speaker 3>the other day where somebody goes, somebody goes.

1:36:21.479 --> 1:36:22.080
<v Speaker 2>It was this girl.

1:36:22.160 --> 1:36:25.920
<v Speaker 3>She was like, stop posting pictures of your kids with

1:36:26.000 --> 1:36:29.880
<v Speaker 3>emojis over their faces. Just post the picture or saying that,

1:36:30.439 --> 1:36:33.559
<v Speaker 3>and I'm like, yes, girl, Like she goes, I don't

1:36:33.560 --> 1:36:35.680
<v Speaker 3>want to see a smiley face emoji with legs, and

1:36:35.720 --> 1:36:37.920
<v Speaker 3>I'm like yes, Like, if you don't want to post

1:36:37.920 --> 1:36:39.000
<v Speaker 3>the picture, then don't post.

1:36:38.760 --> 1:36:42.320
<v Speaker 2>A picture, or like he does, the back of the body,

1:36:42.520 --> 1:36:44.759
<v Speaker 2>which is fine, yeah, or the back of the head.

1:36:44.800 --> 1:36:48.920
<v Speaker 2>I guess. Yeah, you have to disengage.

1:36:50.280 --> 1:36:52.080
<v Speaker 1>There's a cricket in my garage right now.

1:36:52.120 --> 1:36:54.600
<v Speaker 2>And because that was another subway take, like, how do

1:36:54.680 --> 1:36:57.360
<v Speaker 2>we fully we need to how do we get off meta, Like,

1:36:57.400 --> 1:37:00.519
<v Speaker 2>we all have to get off. They're tracking us, they

1:37:00.560 --> 1:37:04.919
<v Speaker 2>know everything. They're ruining our lives. They're ruining our lives.

1:37:05.040 --> 1:37:09.400
<v Speaker 3>Man, Okay, wait, let's do the post mortem of this episode.

1:37:09.800 --> 1:37:16.120
<v Speaker 3>This episode is fucking insanity. It's a kidnapping, it's leukemia,

1:37:16.439 --> 1:37:17.599
<v Speaker 3>it's a shootout at a bank.

1:37:17.720 --> 1:37:21.439
<v Speaker 1>I mean, they really are doing a lot.

1:37:21.840 --> 1:37:26.280
<v Speaker 3>What what did the guy in the episode like know

1:37:26.520 --> 1:37:29.280
<v Speaker 3>that his sister had luke, Like he knew she had leukemia,

1:37:29.280 --> 1:37:32.120
<v Speaker 3>and he still left her underneath a pile of garbage

1:37:32.120 --> 1:37:32.840
<v Speaker 3>when they found her.

1:37:33.880 --> 1:37:36.439
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, drugs really does fuck you up.

1:37:36.479 --> 1:37:38.840
<v Speaker 3>I mean, like you can't even like leave your six

1:37:38.960 --> 1:37:41.920
<v Speaker 3>sister propped up somewhere, Like that's so crazy to me

1:37:42.520 --> 1:37:45.000
<v Speaker 3>because he believed her when she told him over the phone,

1:37:45.080 --> 1:37:45.680
<v Speaker 3>like they does.

1:37:45.920 --> 1:37:49.880
<v Speaker 2>Keep thinking of more lad Bible videos. I watched Oh

1:37:50.040 --> 1:37:53.480
<v Speaker 2>my god, Amish I went from amish to being a stripper.

1:37:53.640 --> 1:37:55.760
<v Speaker 1>You know that was well, that's a real that's a

1:37:55.800 --> 1:37:56.680
<v Speaker 1>real rum spring on.

1:37:56.840 --> 1:38:00.880
<v Speaker 2>That doesn't well, no, it's fucked, Like really reiterates the

1:38:00.960 --> 1:38:03.400
<v Speaker 2>point of like being open with your kids because the

1:38:03.439 --> 1:38:07.439
<v Speaker 2>more you seclude them, the less they know about the

1:38:07.439 --> 1:38:10.599
<v Speaker 2>world and it's easier to take advantage of them. Yeah.

1:38:10.680 --> 1:38:12.080
<v Speaker 1>The reason I thought of it is because she did

1:38:12.160 --> 1:38:16.200
<v Speaker 1>end up gett addicted to crack. Oh god. Uh, but

1:38:16.320 --> 1:38:17.360
<v Speaker 1>she's tough, she's good.

1:38:17.400 --> 1:38:19.240
<v Speaker 2>It's all people have come out the other end, and

1:38:19.240 --> 1:38:22.400
<v Speaker 2>that's like the whole point. Yeah, Like this child, but

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<v Speaker 2>the dad is dead, right or do you think surgery

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<v Speaker 2>kept him alive? You think the dad survived the gun show?

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<v Speaker 2>I think the Dad survives.

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<v Speaker 3>I think Melinda's pen like long excavation like worked out,

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<v Speaker 3>even though the wiki said that she did it the

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<v Speaker 3>wrong way. I think that the post mortem takeaway from

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<v Speaker 3>this episode is that Melinda is a hero and should

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<v Speaker 3>be on more, in the field more. We need her

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<v Speaker 3>in the field more. But of course she's off the

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<v Speaker 3>show now, but I want her back. I also feel

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<v Speaker 3>like man bank robbery is a tough gig, Like these

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<v Speaker 3>guys really like came in in forty pounds of fucking

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<v Speaker 3>extra shit. Their watch is sewn onto their gloves. They

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<v Speaker 3>timed everything out. You still can't you still can't do it.

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<v Speaker 3>You don't get away with it, Like, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 3>Do people get away with bank robberies a lot? No?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Well, I'm gonna watch some lad bibles. There's some theft,

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<v Speaker 2>there's some yeah, let's see if there's a there is.

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<v Speaker 2>And there's a guy that escaped prison four times. I

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<v Speaker 2>slip to watch that one.

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<v Speaker 1>What four times? That's oh my god? Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>Wait, the two guys who robbed the Loop weren't hot

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<v Speaker 3>in the end. They were hot, Oh, but fucking hot

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<v Speaker 3>these guys. This guy wrote a song like did you

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<v Speaker 3>see this? Like viral song that was like.

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<v Speaker 1>The two ooh dudes who rob the loop.

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<v Speaker 3>It was like so, but then he had to write

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<v Speaker 3>another song that was like, Okay, these aren't the dudes

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<v Speaker 3>who rob the loof because like he was writing this

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<v Speaker 3>love song about how hot they were and then he's like,

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<v Speaker 3>turned out it wasn't them. So I got this is

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<v Speaker 3>this is where I'm getting my news, everybody. I'm getting

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<v Speaker 3>my news from people who write songs about ice and

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<v Speaker 3>how hot the hijackers are. I do love a hot criminal. Okay,

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<v Speaker 3>let's move on, shall we? Should we get to what

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<v Speaker 3>would sister Peg do? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>I mean we barely did a post mortem on the episode,

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<v Speaker 1>or I mean, what can we say.

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<v Speaker 3>We're we're all on the pace. We're in and out

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<v Speaker 3>of lad Bible. You know what we you know what

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<v Speaker 3>we do? Love like sneaking in in a refrigerator box.

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<v Speaker 3>That's fun.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, that's fun. I liked that little game they played.

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<v Speaker 2>I like that. That was a good two guys in,

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<v Speaker 2>two guys out, like.

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<v Speaker 1>I love it all right?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Glad was he so awful to his sister? I

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<v Speaker 2>know the drug stuff, but it's like, fuck you, bro.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, I guess he probably puts all of his family

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<v Speaker 3>problems on her because his fucking shitty mom was like, sorry,

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<v Speaker 3>I have a do over kid that I'm gonna be

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<v Speaker 3>working with now, and so you're out of my life.

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<v Speaker 3>And so he probably projects all of his hatred for

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<v Speaker 3>his mother onto this little girl who stole all of

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<v Speaker 3>his parents love and attention. This week's what would Sister

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<v Speaker 3>Peg Do? This is our weekly segment where we point

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<v Speaker 3>you to a organization, a movie, a documentary and article

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<v Speaker 3>something to give you more info about what we talked

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<v Speaker 3>about this week. This week, we're not I don't really

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<v Speaker 3>have any information on you know, bank robberies or to

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<v Speaker 3>Well, yeah, it's a very haunting app So get ready,

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<v Speaker 3>get ready to get creeped.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah yeah, if you thought the sown eyeballs were tough,

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<v Speaker 2>get ready for next week.

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<v Speaker 3>But we hope you've been listening to this episode while

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<v Speaker 3>taking a walk to get away from your family and

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<v Speaker 1>You're smoking weed with.

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