Speaker 1: Peter's grandmother once said to me, when you're dealing with
Speaker 1: your children and you're dealing with your husband, you're yes
Speaker 1: them to death, and you're about your police. And I
Speaker 1: never forgot that that's a good one. He has him
Speaker 1: to death. And and what do you do? Well? You
Speaker 1: know that the say what makes a good marriage? Two words,
Speaker 1: Yes dear. He has to know yes, dear. That's the
Speaker 1: two words a husband should know. Absolutely. Can we talk about, say,
Speaker 1: being on Indy Cone last night, fan happulo, very harpular.
Speaker 1: You know, we did very little. We really did nothing.
Speaker 1: You want to know something funny. They gave me a
Speaker 1: glass of wine in the beginning, and I was a
Speaker 1: little bit the word yeah whatever. The truth of it is,
Speaker 1: wherever you went, they were giving your drinks. You came
Speaker 1: into the first big room, there was a bar, what
Speaker 1: to drink. You went into a little dressing room, there
Speaker 1: was liquor. I had to bring a walker with me
Speaker 1: last night. He likes to get his guests a little
Speaker 1: bit for forskit when certain ones don't have a translation.
Speaker 1: This word. I remember my father. You're not drunk, but
Speaker 1: you're like a little bit out of it, if you
Speaker 1: know what I mean, and that's what he likes to
Speaker 1: do because he feels he gets better stuff out of
Speaker 1: his guests than when they're straight sober. Not us though,
Speaker 1: we're like drunk away. But you know what, so many
Speaker 1: people picked up on that he put a straw in
Speaker 1: all wine, just sipping away. There was very little that
Speaker 1: we did other than apployed Melissa McCarthy. But then he
Speaker 1: mentioned Barbra streisand at about three to and I went
Speaker 1: to the same high school as Barbara streisand Rasmus while
Speaker 1: high school she graduated from. So did we I'm on
Speaker 1: the show embtus to her radio birthday party. What do
Speaker 1: you think? Sure? And Neil Diamond will pick us up
Speaker 1: in his car, right right, Rita Ellen, who are we
Speaker 1: going to hear today? Today? We're gonna hear from Sue Poster.
Speaker 1: You remember who Sue was? Of course? I remember. I
Speaker 1: loved that episode. She was actually the grandmother who inspired
Speaker 1: the whole podcast. Her daughter Meryl Poster made the show.
Speaker 1: Sue and her granddaughter Eva had a great episode. Let's listen.
Speaker 1: She is really funny. Everything she says is like there's
Speaker 1: always a joke. She's very musical. She's been a very
Speaker 1: very important part of my life. She's the best, and
Speaker 1: nobody has given me the joy in my life that
Speaker 1: Ava has given me. Oh that was fabulous. I loved
Speaker 1: that one. And today she's going to be interviewed by
Speaker 1: her grandson terrific. I can't wait to hear it. Absolutely,
Speaker 1: let's listen. They should be a good pair. Sue and
Speaker 1: Jed expand frame Okay, perfect better? Oh handsome? Why do
Speaker 1: you look like Joan? Look a little bit like Joan
Speaker 1: Crawford right now, Joan Crawford, it looks very handsome. It's
Speaker 1: the hair and the shape face. But you lost a
Speaker 1: lot of weight, Jed, I lost sixty five pounds. Oh
Speaker 1: my god, that's another little person. I guess how Grammy.
Speaker 1: Let's give him a show. There's dope is just like show.
Speaker 1: So this is soup poster my grandmother. Don't take grandmother's
Speaker 1: like that's we call her Grammy. She's funny, one of
Speaker 1: the kind, charismatic. Every one of my friends will remember her,
Speaker 1: that's for sure. And she's Jed's very caring. He's a
Speaker 1: very sensitive kid. She's like an Oprah if Oprah was Jewish.
Speaker 1: I think we're both very empathetic with both funny. Neither
Speaker 1: of us know when to stop, so it's like we
Speaker 1: getting on a roll and then it's to the point
Speaker 1: of the explosion, and then you gotta rein it back in.
Speaker 1: I guess we can be loud, Grammy, we're a little bit,
Speaker 1: you know much. Jed's a little way out. Sometimes you
Speaker 1: never know what's to expect from him. She's definitely a performer.
Speaker 1: That's where it has to come from. The entire family
Speaker 1: were all extroverted, and it's all derivative of her. It
Speaker 1: has to be. That's very nice. Who is Ava? The
Speaker 1: question that's defined my life. Ava is my older sister.
Speaker 1: Love her. She's a great, big sister. I would say
Speaker 1: she's probably a little more work driven and I'm smarter.
Speaker 1: Wouldn't you agree with that, Grammy? Yes, you're also very humble. Right,
Speaker 1: She's always been Grammy's proverbial favorite. Stop saying that, Jed,
Speaker 1: that's unnecessary. It's not unnecessary. If you said she brings
Speaker 1: me the most joy in life. She started the episode
Speaker 1: by saying, Avo is the person that brings me most
Speaker 1: joy in life. Right, Never that quote, Grammy, Yes, yeah,
Speaker 1: that was nice. That doesn't the gate the fact how
Speaker 1: much I love you. I know, I know the cousins
Speaker 1: have a group chat and we already have acknowledged that
Speaker 1: Eva was the favorite, but that really, you know, you
Speaker 1: really leaned into it. I feel like I'm like Monica
Speaker 1: and Friends when it comes to Grammy. But it's all good.
Speaker 1: But you know what they took out by mistake is
Speaker 1: when I did Avis, I was saying how you really
Speaker 1: were my favorite, and they didn't get into Yeah, I'm
Speaker 1: sure they took that out. Yeah, I meant to tell
Speaker 1: you that just to clarify in this moment, who's your
Speaker 1: favorite grandchild? Well, in one Eva was, but now it's two,
Speaker 1: so you wore got it? And why why am I
Speaker 1: the favorite grandchild? Now? What have I done? It? Pay
Speaker 1: a lot of attention to me. You care about me,
Speaker 1: how I feel. You're very empathetic to my health issues.
Speaker 1: And I'm the most successful and you called me the
Speaker 1: most Yeah. Oh I love him. I just love him.
Speaker 1: I'm telling you the minute it opens, this big personality.
Speaker 1: They both have a sense of human and I wonder
Speaker 1: who's going to be her favorite in twenty three? What
Speaker 1: do you think It reminds me when I say Rachel
Speaker 1: is my favorite granddaughter? But she's the only granddaughter, so
Speaker 1: that's not a problem. But I have twin grandsons. One
Speaker 1: calls me once in a while and one is just
Speaker 1: like Jent. He calls me every week. And if they
Speaker 1: keep calling, they become the favorite. In Finean's Rainbow, there's
Speaker 1: a song when I'm not near the boy I love,
Speaker 1: I love the boy I'm near, And that's how I
Speaker 1: feel about my grandchildren. The one nuts with me is
Speaker 1: my favorite at the moment, and that's true. But he's
Speaker 1: not insulted. He knows his grammy loves him, but he's
Speaker 1: always trying to put her on the spot, and she's
Speaker 1: got to figure out a way to get out of it.
Speaker 1: It's like I kept a mass relationship. He says one
Speaker 1: thing and she kind of comes back another way. It's
Speaker 1: very cute. What we're hearing, though, is this reparte that
Speaker 1: they have, that they're both on the same way. They
Speaker 1: get each other. Absolutely. Okay, Rita, the producers have handed
Speaker 1: me the park titles, and here's the first one, Part one.
Speaker 1: W w E. I wonder what that could I I
Speaker 1: couldn't imagine w w E. World War Women's where, women's
Speaker 1: where early I don't know. I can't imagine. All right,
Speaker 1: I think we're gonna have to listen to it because
Speaker 1: we're getting silly. What about Beauty School Dropout, No graduation,
Speaker 1: Beauty School Dropout. That movie Greece is on every other week.
Speaker 1: I must have seen the Ted Times in Florida this winter. Wow.
Speaker 1: Jed's had many interests in his life. He loved w
Speaker 1: w E. I think we went to Zack Shuman's house
Speaker 1: Grammy and he had Power Rangers, which I loved Power Rangers,
Speaker 1: and then pro wrestling figures. Oh yes, I think I
Speaker 1: took come home. We watched YouTube videos with the wrestlers.
Speaker 1: I was really drawn to the sort of dramatization of it.
Speaker 1: It's kind of like drag queens in our way. Wrestlers,
Speaker 1: you know, they're just all over the place. And I
Speaker 1: was really obsessed. I would have hundreds of action figures,
Speaker 1: you know. I mean, I was really into it. So
Speaker 1: we went to w w E and the dregs of
Speaker 1: society are there. You never saw us so many disgusting
Speaker 1: looking people dressed with vests with their tattoos all over
Speaker 1: their bodies and jeweled hats. It was just a scene,
Speaker 1: it really was. That was what like nine years old,
Speaker 1: you know, And I knew more than half of them.
Speaker 1: Do you remember that Graham? And he was just a
Speaker 1: pain in the ass that night. He was running here
Speaker 1: and running. They didn't know what to do, so excited,
Speaker 1: they didn't know which way to turn, and the place
Speaker 1: was packed and I was only afraid I'd lose them.
Speaker 1: And you got these big guys all out, and he
Speaker 1: was little jed trying to find wrestler that he saw
Speaker 1: already wanted to talk to him. Quite a scene that night.
Speaker 1: At one point, we're watching this wrestling match and Grammy goes,
Speaker 1: we're going now. I'm done, We're going now, And I'm like, no,
Speaker 1: and she goes, we're going now. We got in the
Speaker 1: car and I'm so upset. I think. I was like,
Speaker 1: I can't believe comely, and she goes, you know what,
Speaker 1: I took you to the Wrestling Mania event. Shut up.
Speaker 1: And I have a picture of me in the back
Speaker 1: of the car being on moody. I'm in the back
Speaker 1: of the car taking pictures of myself because I feel
Speaker 1: like it's my moody moment because I was so upset.
Speaker 1: Here you are driving in the front of the car.
Speaker 1: We speaking of the entire car. Right, Grammy, do you
Speaker 1: know any pro wrestlers? Could you name any, Grammy? Nope,
Speaker 1: you couldn't name one. The one that had that show
Speaker 1: on television, that used to wear the band data how
Speaker 1: covid Right, the porn star. You know he's a porn star. Now, No,
Speaker 1: I don't know that he had like a whole sex
Speaker 1: tape that gobb interested ever didn't think you were. How's
Speaker 1: your dating life going, Grammy? What's up with that? Nothing?
Speaker 1: I don't need a man of eighty five years old
Speaker 1: with a walker. That's not what you said last time
Speaker 1: you were going out with that guy in Florida. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm talking about, right, you said we're gonna
Speaker 1: see him again. I'm not saying him again. He might
Speaker 1: have died. You're so nonchalant about that. You're so nonchalant
Speaker 1: about that that he may have died. Okay, it's hysterical,
Speaker 1: that's that's so. She is hot stuck. She says she's
Speaker 1: eighty five in a wheelchair. I mean, oh my god,
Speaker 1: got a throwaway that is so terrific. Maybe he's dead, well,
Speaker 1: that's true, would be hard to get a day. Oh
Speaker 1: my god, I gotta say one thing I give her
Speaker 1: the biggest props for going to a wrestling thing, because
Speaker 1: as much I love my grandchildren, and believe me, I
Speaker 1: love my grandchildren, there is no way on god screener
Speaker 1: that you would ever get me to a wrestling thing,
Speaker 1: I tell you the truth. W w E. I still
Speaker 1: don't know what the hell that with me? Is that
Speaker 1: the name of a wrestling world? Wrestling something around? Did
Speaker 1: you see them? Did you know? Did you never watched that?
Speaker 1: Are you crazy? There is no isn't that something? And
Speaker 1: she was a good grandmother, She took um, she's the best. Okay,
Speaker 1: the producers have handed me the next part, so let's go.
Speaker 1: Let's hear it. I can't wait to hear it. To
Speaker 1: the pain in the s Meryl and Grammy fight like
Speaker 1: cats and dogs. I mean, it's really something else where,
Speaker 1: this Jewish family who goes so intense at it. So
Speaker 1: one moment they'll be going out at left and right,
Speaker 1: and the next moment they'll be talking the most normal
Speaker 1: conversation you've ever seen in your entire life. I mean,
Speaker 1: it's really some dynamic. It's who we are, I guess
Speaker 1: as a family, you know, you never know what you
Speaker 1: gotta get with jed, but he was younger. He really did.
Speaker 1: He was very complex. I really did know which way
Speaker 1: he was going to churn, and he weren't as close
Speaker 1: back then, you know, it was difficult. What time I
Speaker 1: took him to videat your golf and I picked him
Speaker 1: up at his father's house and he said to me,
Speaker 1: I'm not going to talk to you the whole time
Speaker 1: in the car. I said, I'm not going to talk
Speaker 1: to you the whole time in the car. That's right,
Speaker 1: that's a little dickie. Continue, well, that's true. And we
Speaker 1: played Beniche golf and then I just didn't know what
Speaker 1: to do to play Cadam, so I said, you want
Speaker 1: to go to the special ice cream store. So he
Speaker 1: went to the ice cream store and he he loved
Speaker 1: whatever he had bought, and he said to me, now,
Speaker 1: I'm not going to talk to you the rest of
Speaker 1: the way home, so you know, no, I mean no.
Speaker 1: I remember the times where it's like when I was
Speaker 1: bad at Amy because she loves to talk, that's the thing.
Speaker 1: And only was she talked. She would ask about everything
Speaker 1: and anything. I'd be like, I stepped out of the
Speaker 1: house this morning. She'd be like, on what foot I
Speaker 1: feel bad. I get that from her now too. And
Speaker 1: someone's telling me a story at each another time, what
Speaker 1: they were eating, how they were feeling. Sometimes it's a
Speaker 1: little much, but I mean she's definitely cares, you know,
Speaker 1: But I don't know why I would retaliate it. Goods
Speaker 1: to you. That was your personality. Sometimes it was yes
Speaker 1: and sometimes it was no. You never know what you
Speaker 1: got when you whipped it. One day they had grandparents
Speaker 1: day in the nurse three school. He was delicious that
Speaker 1: whole time, and you made pictures and we left. We
Speaker 1: were taking him home and he just would not cross
Speaker 1: the street. It's like he weighed like three hundred pounds.
Speaker 1: He's stuck so far up to the ground. He just
Speaker 1: we could move them. Oh my god, it was just impossible.
Speaker 1: He just stood for why. Do you know why? No,
Speaker 1: I don't know why. Till this day, you know why.
Speaker 1: I was probably in my own world. I think it
Speaker 1: all probably just caught up with me in that moment.
Speaker 1: I think I probably thought you were abducting Cecy would
Speaker 1: take me everywhere. No, we spent the warting with you.
Speaker 1: We had a lovely time. It's like, know what I
Speaker 1: was painting? He asked, I think we all know that.
Speaker 1: But I think my goal growing up was just because
Speaker 1: Eva would get all the attention always, she was always
Speaker 1: number one. I think I had to be remembered for something. Well,
Speaker 1: that's very vivid. Yeah, you certainly were remembered. That is
Speaker 1: so funny. He accomplished what he wanted to accomplish. He
Speaker 1: wanted to set his own mark. And she never forgot
Speaker 1: that incident, never, and that was exactly what he wanted.
Speaker 1: You know, little boys are different than the different thing girls. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you can't ask them a lot of questions. Every time
Speaker 1: I asked my grandson's when they do something and they
Speaker 1: go someplace, I wasn't good. That's it, right, one word,
Speaker 1: And from the girls she get chapter and verse. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you get what they were wearing, who looked nice, who
Speaker 1: didn't look nice? Late? Right? And and a boy, did
Speaker 1: you have a good time? Yeah? Yeah, But this child
Speaker 1: knew how to make his mark. He just stood literally
Speaker 1: stood his ground. And that's what killed Sue. When he
Speaker 1: says I'm not talking because she's a talker. That must
Speaker 1: kill her if anything, just talk to me. But what
Speaker 1: you also are hearing is how close they were really
Speaker 1: that she went to this and she went to that.
Speaker 1: She tried, she really tried. He gets a kick out
Speaker 1: of all the things. He doesn't even remember the things
Speaker 1: he did. Know. I think we tend to remember things
Speaker 1: more than, oh, absolutely, than they do absolutely. I remember
Speaker 1: when my grandson went to a Quaker nursery school and
Speaker 1: a lady came around with cookies, and he never lifted
Speaker 1: his head, and the woman kept on saying, Logan, would
Speaker 1: you like a cookie? And finally he looked up. He
Speaker 1: must have been three, and he says, no, thank you.
Speaker 1: I'll wait for the bagels to come around. That tell
Speaker 1: me from a Jewish kid in quite a nursery school. Okay, rita,
Speaker 1: time for the next part. Okay, let's here in Allen
Speaker 1: Part three. A nice rich father. That's nice. Start spreading
Speaker 1: the news. I'm leaving today. I want to be a
Speaker 1: part of it. New York, New York. I want to
Speaker 1: wake up in the city that doesn't sleep. Grammy, do
Speaker 1: you have any wine at your house or something? I'm
Speaker 1: on antibiotics. I'm not drinking right now. I have gubby bears.
Speaker 1: We um. I don't know if we can say that
Speaker 1: on camera. What we smoke? We together A drink? I
Speaker 1: mean that's that was gonna say. I mean, that's consisted
Speaker 1: of a lot of our activities recently. Well, I was
Speaker 1: his father brought me down some gummy bears, right, what
Speaker 1: do you call them? Is that what it is? Jed
Speaker 1: special gummy bears. I guess he brought them for me
Speaker 1: as a medicine for the back. I have a very
Speaker 1: bad back, and Jed was in the house and I
Speaker 1: had a bad attack, and he kept throwing them in
Speaker 1: my mouth, one after the other, and after a while
Speaker 1: I was getting moopy. And then I look over and
Speaker 1: you're out. You're out like a light. I'd have to
Speaker 1: go to rehab. Wait. I want to ask, so, Grammy,
Speaker 1: I'm in college right now. Do you have any fun
Speaker 1: memories of partying or any of that sort in college? No.
Speaker 1: I went to an old girls city college, and I
Speaker 1: came home at three o'clock or five o'clock whenever my
Speaker 1: class was over, and you didn't go out. You can
Speaker 1: go to the clubs. You didn't do anything at the time.
Speaker 1: We never went to clubs. You know, as a group,
Speaker 1: you had a date with a boy and then you
Speaker 1: went out for dinner or something. Well, speaking of dates,
Speaker 1: you dated Poppy at a very young age. I mean
Speaker 1: you were nineteen, he was what? Right? Were you usually
Speaker 1: always attracted to older guys? Was that your thing? No? No,
Speaker 1: I dated other guys while I was going with him
Speaker 1: because I just didn't think that he was marriage material.
Speaker 1: I mean, are you're supposed to keep your virginity until
Speaker 1: after you're married in Jewish culture? No? Well, that Jewish
Speaker 1: culture and every culture. I'm not gonna ask if you
Speaker 1: abide it by that. That's a little personal, but but
Speaker 1: I assume not. Um, Grammy, who do you think the
Speaker 1: ideal type of guy for me to be dating is?
Speaker 1: George Clooney? Yeah? I feel like you would like it
Speaker 1: if I was with someone who had talent. Can I
Speaker 1: just say? She wasn't very close with my ex boyfriend?
Speaker 1: I mean it was really nice. It was like a
Speaker 1: whole concerned every she put out. At the point where
Speaker 1: I was like, I think I'm gonna break up with him,
Speaker 1: she was like, no, well I felt it was too
Speaker 1: You know, one minute you were in love and the
Speaker 1: next moviute you were breaking up. I wanted you to
Speaker 1: be a little more sure of yourself, right, right, right,
Speaker 1: right right. I was going through this whole tumultuous situation.
Speaker 1: I mean, my grandma was the one who really was
Speaker 1: the whole game changer in the way I was thinking
Speaker 1: about things. She gave me the lesson of if someone
Speaker 1: really cares about you, and that's what really matters the most,
Speaker 1: and showing that they care about you. But I told
Speaker 1: her at one point, I was like, I don't know
Speaker 1: if I trust him, and she goes, well, that's a
Speaker 1: big thing. You have to trust someone, that's the biggest thing.
Speaker 1: And if you don't trust someone, then you have nothing.
Speaker 1: Remember saying that, Grammy, absolutely, But what would be your
Speaker 1: ideal man for me? George Clooney? Somebody that had a
Speaker 1: very nice, rich father. I agree with that. That was single.
Speaker 1: Oh who's also single? Do I date people who are
Speaker 1: not single? My home wrecker? The father is singing, Oh,
Speaker 1: then the father. So I could take two at once, right,
Speaker 1: live in life to the fullest. That's a great No
Speaker 1: the father for me? Oh, I thought you were telling
Speaker 1: me to take advantage of all of life's opportunities. I mean,
Speaker 1: that's something you would do. No, no, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: that's something you would do. You would date the father
Speaker 1: and the son. I think that's a very supposter move please, no, no,
Speaker 1: don't fool yourself here, don't. Let's not get too posh.
Speaker 1: You would do it if you had the opportunity. I
Speaker 1: can't even walk. You can do things other than walk.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, that conversation is priceless. First, feeding this
Speaker 1: poor woman these cannabis, COMMI ball till she was looped. Listen,
Speaker 1: you've got a bad back, you try anything. And then
Speaker 1: she's suggesting a grandson should find a nice young man
Speaker 1: with a rich father. So I'm thinking, yeah, everybody should
Speaker 1: marry somebody has a rich father. No, not fun. I
Speaker 1: think that this whole segment tells the story of their closeness,
Speaker 1: of their humor being so into each other. I just
Speaker 1: think that this is wonderful. She's a riot and he
Speaker 1: plays right into it. I'm telling you that would be
Speaker 1: the funniest sitcom on TV. You can imagine every once
Speaker 1: in a while, don't you feel like you'd like some
Speaker 1: of those gutty bass riata. Oh I don't know. I'm fine.
Speaker 1: I'd sleep well. If I have a pain, I'd taken
Speaker 1: a leave. It's cheaper than a gunny bear. You know, reader,
Speaker 1: that's because you're from one generation before me. That's true.
Speaker 1: And you know what's so funny, And he didn't want
Speaker 1: to hear the answer. He wanted to know if his
Speaker 1: grandmother got married as a virgin. You know, my kids,
Speaker 1: I'd tell right out sure, And I said, you know,
Speaker 1: I was a virgin, and you were a virgin only
Speaker 1: because you didn't have abortions in those days. And if
Speaker 1: you got pregnant, you really had a problem. You know,
Speaker 1: next subject, next subject. But you're another decade after me,
Speaker 1: So moving on, we're not going to ask you. Okay,
Speaker 1: that's that time again. What time? What time are you
Speaker 1: talking about? Tea time? Tea time? You know, when we
Speaker 1: have our break and we have our tea time. It's
Speaker 1: nothing like tea time in London. No, there really isn't.
Speaker 1: You can go in the city. It's not like London. Now. Well,
Speaker 1: my bring is hot water in a bag that you
Speaker 1: keep donking in and out. And now that's what they
Speaker 1: called tea time in the United States. Okay, tea time
Speaker 1: is over. Back to work all and so we can
Speaker 1: afford another trip. You know what we do. Maybe we
Speaker 1: should try to meditate. And that's when I do a
Speaker 1: whole day. I clear my mind and I hoped to myself,
Speaker 1: and I talked to my that's my meditating. I have
Speaker 1: a chicken in the refrigerator. Chicken is defrosted. Listen it
Speaker 1: all right, We're glad we could think the day eftday. Okay, reader,
Speaker 1: time for the next part. Okay, let's go part four,
Speaker 1: the prank call. Okay. So I have no idea how
Speaker 1: this came up, but I saw a TikTok and that
Speaker 1: was like this girl used Google Translate to create this
Speaker 1: robotic voice, like an automatic voice. I'm like, you know what,
Speaker 1: I should do it to Grammy because I think it
Speaker 1: would be a good reaction. So in the morning it
Speaker 1: was I guess it was up one thirty in the morning.
Speaker 1: So I call her and it's like, you have a
Speaker 1: collect call from jed Levinson Manhattan Juvenile Center. Press one
Speaker 1: if you would like to receive the call. Hello, this
Speaker 1: is a call from Manhattan Correctional Center Institution from inmate
Speaker 1: jed Levinson jed Levinson. And she goes, what and then
Speaker 1: I'd say it all over a guy, Hello, this is
Speaker 1: a call from inmate or Levinson. Say yes, if you
Speaker 1: would like to accept this call, and she goes yes,
Speaker 1: And I go Grammy and I'm like trying not to
Speaker 1: laugh at this point because I know she's so into it.
Speaker 1: I can hear she's into it, and I go, Grammy, Grammy,
Speaker 1: I'm scared, and she goes, what are you doing? And
Speaker 1: I go up in jail and she goes, jail. How
Speaker 1: do you end up in jail? And I go, I
Speaker 1: don't know, and she's like, oh my god, oh my god.
Speaker 1: It was petrifying. Mean, I mean, here, I have a
Speaker 1: load in the house and he cas me, he tells
Speaker 1: me he's a jail and I don't know what to do.
Speaker 1: And then I think I just start bursting out laughing,
Speaker 1: and she goes, what did I go, it's a joke.
Speaker 1: She starts bawling, crying loudly, bawling, crying like a howl
Speaker 1: on most of the stars was oh. Right after I
Speaker 1: was done, she goes, how did you do that? She
Speaker 1: wanted to know immediately after all the details situation. I
Speaker 1: mean like she got over at quick. Anyways, we had
Speaker 1: to hang up for a second. I call her back
Speaker 1: five minutes later, because you don't want to call you back.
Speaker 1: I go, Grammy, She goes, what and I go, how
Speaker 1: are you doing? She goes, I just say the whole salami.
Speaker 1: Why she goes, I always keep a salami in the
Speaker 1: house with me, no matter what. I was so scared
Speaker 1: a whole salami. Maybe that's why I'm fat. I don't
Speaker 1: think you're fat. I just think it was funny you
Speaker 1: get a whole salami. I could eat a whole salami.
Speaker 1: That it sounds good, I know. Okay, So you want
Speaker 1: to know something. This is a god's honest truth. Every
Speaker 1: time a person plays a prank, it backfires. You have
Speaker 1: to be careful. My sister I once played a prank
Speaker 1: on my parents. They lived near us, and they had
Speaker 1: built this beautiful new home. We had a key to
Speaker 1: my parents has and my sister gets an idea to
Speaker 1: make a figure in the bed with pillows and choose
Speaker 1: at the end of the bed. And we left and
Speaker 1: we were laughing, what a funny thing. They'll come on. Well,
Speaker 1: my parents came home in the middle of the night
Speaker 1: and my father saw this figure in the bed and
Speaker 1: my mother was screaming, what did you stupid girls do?
Speaker 1: Your father stow the body and the bed. He nearly
Speaker 1: had a heart attack, just like Sue. Couldn't that's a
Speaker 1: heart attack. When she heard that he was in jail.
Speaker 1: You have to be careful with pranks and you know
Speaker 1: who you're playing the mind, especially with elderly people. That's right, absolutely,
Speaker 1: Oh but that's soon. She goes for the ride all
Speaker 1: the way. Yes, she does. But you know, in a moment,
Speaker 1: you're not thinking, Wow, he's playing a prank. You're thinking
Speaker 1: to yourself, with my checkbook, I have to bail him out.
Speaker 1: You know, if it was me, I would eat a
Speaker 1: whole gallon of ice cream. She had a whole salami instead. Okay, Riata, okay,
Speaker 1: let's hear it, Ellen, pot five, Tell me about my brists.
Speaker 1: Tell me about my brisk. Two people that don't know
Speaker 1: what a briss is. Brisk is really a circumcision ceremony,
Speaker 1: circumcision for a boy. In Jewish religion, they do it,
Speaker 1: but it's more like a religious ceremony. I can't imagine
Speaker 1: what Sue was going to tell about the well that
Speaker 1: let's cut to the chick, Cut to the cut, cut
Speaker 1: to the breast. Oh that's very glever, Ellen. Oh god, okay,
Speaker 1: you're the one who planned my breast. What do you
Speaker 1: mean I planned the brisk? I planned the brisk. Tell
Speaker 1: me about my breast. Jed had a huge would never
Speaker 1: say I would never I would say I would never
Speaker 1: say to my grandma, tell me about my breast. That
Speaker 1: would never be a sentence I would ever say to her.
Speaker 1: I just want to let you know that, right. But
Speaker 1: she's got to cut that out. She's not putting that in.
Speaker 1: That gets cut out anyway. She tell me about my
Speaker 1: breast was okay. You were the fourth grandchild, and my
Speaker 1: husband this was his only grandson, and he was thrilled
Speaker 1: having a little boy. And he did it to make
Speaker 1: this a real hooplah. So we had the brists and
Speaker 1: we had balloons. So they served nice food the Boyal Cave.
Speaker 1: He did what he had to do it, and he
Speaker 1: cried a little bit. They took it back home. I
Speaker 1: can't believe I had had that. You know, your mother
Speaker 1: had all the people that she does business with, it
Speaker 1: all have friends. You know your mother had invited you
Speaker 1: Jackman to the brists at the cave. So my mom
Speaker 1: is a big shot producer. Anyways, you know, it's the
Speaker 1: only phone number I've ever stole from mom's phone was Jackman.
Speaker 1: Hugh Jackman. I was gonna try to steal Kanye West,
Speaker 1: but Hugh Jackman is a great you know. I feel
Speaker 1: like I could call him at any moment. You know,
Speaker 1: he's a real stand up guy, you know that, right.
Speaker 1: You know I thought growing up that Hugh Jackman, because
Speaker 1: they saw him as wolverine, I thought he did my
Speaker 1: breast with his like wolverine claws. That's what I always thought.
Speaker 1: I mean, that's that's what I would always say to
Speaker 1: people because that's how I knew him, you know. But
Speaker 1: that was not the case, right. I do not like
Speaker 1: the mental picture of Hugh Jackman with wolverine claw's doing
Speaker 1: anybody's brist That jet is really a character my boys
Speaker 1: that never even wanted to talk about it. I once
Speaker 1: said something that he might na I don't want to
Speaker 1: talk about it. Yeah, they know it. They know that's
Speaker 1: something that you might want to forget. But the Brits
Speaker 1: is a big deal. It's a big deal. It's a big,
Speaker 1: big deal in the Jewish religion. And you know what,
Speaker 1: it's a happy ceremony. Only the baby cries. But they
Speaker 1: give the baby a little bit of wine on the
Speaker 1: legs on a piece of cotton. It's makes him a
Speaker 1: little woozy. And the mothers never locked no I never looked.
Speaker 1: I never know the mothers never looked. I would go
Speaker 1: to Hugh Jackman's briss You would go to his priest, right,
Speaker 1: I would go to Hugh Jackman's anything one time. I
Speaker 1: tell you, okay, it's time for another break. My walker
Speaker 1: is here. Do you mean a walker to walk with
Speaker 1: or do you mean one of those guys that scort you? Listen?
Speaker 1: If I have my choice, I'd rather have a guy
Speaker 1: that it scorts me. Are you kidding? I mean if
Speaker 1: I come with my walker walker with another walker, the
Speaker 1: walker walker won't want to walk with me with my walker.
Speaker 1: If you walk with a walker who has a walker,
Speaker 1: then you have four walkers walker together. You know what
Speaker 1: I need a glass of Johnny Walker. Johnny Walker, and
Speaker 1: that's the walk around walker. I walk with my walker
Speaker 1: and had the bottle of Johnny Walker. Okay, we're back,
Speaker 1: all right, put back the walker. Let's go back on
Speaker 1: that program. Yeah, but I'm gonna sit here with my
Speaker 1: Johnny Walker anyway. Okay, okay, rider, let's hear it Ellen
Speaker 1: Part six the Entertainers. I'm towah and clean your closer.
Speaker 1: I'll just spending all the do have the dctor fix
Speaker 1: you know up, baby, don't sweat it. You're a whole
Speaker 1: the job benefiting. We're all connected by our love for performing.
Speaker 1: Who wants to go to the theater with me, Let's go.
Speaker 1: She is the best person to go to the theater
Speaker 1: with the best she really, now that I think about it,
Speaker 1: Grammy has brought so much culture to this household. I mean,
Speaker 1: what brought you into theater? When did you become such
Speaker 1: a purveyor of the arts. My mother used to love
Speaker 1: to sing. My mother had a nice voice. When I
Speaker 1: was a little girl, she used to teach me all
Speaker 1: the old time songs like come to Me, my Melancholy Bay,
Speaker 1: the one I love belongs to somebody else. He's sing
Speaker 1: those favorite songs to somebody else. And even when I
Speaker 1: have my arms around him. Are these songs from like
Speaker 1: eighteen hundreds or what? No, what kind of hundreds? I
Speaker 1: don't know what year they're from, twenties, nineteen twenties, thirties.
Speaker 1: I always liked performing, and I didn't even always think
Speaker 1: I was the best. I think that as I grew up,
Speaker 1: I liked making people laugh a lot. Grammy also helped
Speaker 1: instill that in me. You know, at the family gatherings,
Speaker 1: everyone was very funny, so it's like, who can top
Speaker 1: the next person with the jokes? You know, your biggest
Speaker 1: competition was right in front of you. Grammy would go
Speaker 1: to virtually all my shows, all of them. He's very professional,
Speaker 1: and I love when he sings and when he dances.
Speaker 1: Had bonderful shows. You had bonderful poets. I love watching you.
Speaker 1: He's really very good. Now. I was also in a
Speaker 1: lot of shows where there was a lot of sex,
Speaker 1: a lot of sex, and Grammy would be at these shows.
Speaker 1: I want to have that experience was for Yeah, did
Speaker 1: you go to Heather's when I was a nut show?
Speaker 1: I don't think so. I don't think I saw that.
Speaker 1: I might have been. I think maybe you blocked it
Speaker 1: out of your memory because it was so Maybe maybe
Speaker 1: I was only in my underwear for half the show. No,
Speaker 1: I don't think I saw that. I would remember that.
Speaker 1: You know what, I performed at fine scene fifty four below,
Speaker 1: and she was there. I remember that staircase vividly to
Speaker 1: get up a dad. That staircase was murder. She has
Speaker 1: bad knee. She doesn't need to come to all these things.
Speaker 1: Chips to this you did from Chlorous Life, I did
Speaker 1: So I in eleventh grade got the opportunity to perform
Speaker 1: at Fine Scene fifty four below, which is this huge
Speaker 1: Broadway club in New York, and I chose dance ten
Speaker 1: looks three from a chorus line, it's all about someone
Speaker 1: who gets plastic surgery to get themselves done up, to
Speaker 1: have boobs in a butt. It goes how fabulous. She
Speaker 1: was the biggest supporter there, absolutely and it really means
Speaker 1: a lot didn't cost apportion, neither didn't hurt. I actually
Speaker 1: have a performance today right after this interview. You were
Speaker 1: probably the first person I called. When I got this part.
Speaker 1: Was the middle of this big snowstorm, huge snowstorm, but
Speaker 1: most of because was late at night. It has no
Speaker 1: idea of time. But what time about go to sleep
Speaker 1: Hill clubby twelve thirty? What o'clock? It must have been
Speaker 1: for almost two hours we talked. I hate to tell
Speaker 1: him that he woke me up, because I loved Liddy
Speaker 1: calls me, you know, so I I don't say anything.
Speaker 1: I just listened to him. That's very nice. And we're
Speaker 1: going to take that to your music class so that
Speaker 1: your music teacher could work on the songs with you.
Speaker 1: I did, Yeah, I did. You know in the future.
Speaker 1: Wouldn't be surprised if one day, you know, I'm writing
Speaker 1: a play and then I called Grammy to ask her
Speaker 1: insights to be a co creator on it, because she's
Speaker 1: so norrish when it comes to creativity and feeling inspired.
Speaker 1: My cup brothers over. And that's because who she is
Speaker 1: the person. It's not about being my grandma. I'll come
Speaker 1: back from the dead like in the Fiddler around the Roof.
Speaker 1: Remember she came back from the dead. Now get out
Speaker 1: of the shot. I really got shot. God again, go
Speaker 1: into that sha God. Oh they are a show, Bob,
Speaker 1: a show together. The relationship with the grandmother. The word
Speaker 1: he used was nourishing. Oh that was a good word.
Speaker 1: It just hit me. That word nourishing. It does she
Speaker 1: It nourishes his soul. He's going to use this in
Speaker 1: his life's work. It's going to give him the foundation
Speaker 1: things to think about it. And she is so patient.
Speaker 1: Oh she is. She is hot stuff. I would say
Speaker 1: to my grandkids, I can't talk to you at two
Speaker 1: o'clock in the morning. She's up there listening. You know.
Speaker 1: That's part of their relationship is late night calls. She's
Speaker 1: behind him all the way. Well, that's how it should be, Okay,
Speaker 1: Rita hot seven, fabulous, fabulous. I'm sorry to see it in.
Speaker 1: I have to remember when I danced for Poppy at Hanaka.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, when I did Chicago the routine for him.
Speaker 1: Were you there? Right? Of course I was there. You
Speaker 1: set the scene. We used to have performances on the holidays.
Speaker 1: Each one would perform, each grandchild. We always had fun together.
Speaker 1: I in ninth grade was doing the musical Chicago for
Speaker 1: my theater group. I was playing Miss Mary Sunshine, which
Speaker 1: is the drag queen, and Poppy we all knew he
Speaker 1: was sick. We all know he probably didn't have much
Speaker 1: time left. So they said, Jed, do it for Poppy
Speaker 1: because he can't be at the show. And I'm like, oh,
Speaker 1: knowing the show of Chicago, what the dance is like,
Speaker 1: I'm not really looking to perform it for my grandfather
Speaker 1: And like, no, no, no, Jed, you have to do it.
Speaker 1: And I'm like, I really don't know if this is
Speaker 1: the best idea. Okay, And here I am, for the
Speaker 1: entire family performing this number. I just start grinding and
Speaker 1: every single direction, my hips are swaying, my crotches out.
Speaker 1: It's like a whole thing for my grandfather and all
Speaker 1: I because this is the most embarrassing thing I've ever
Speaker 1: done in my entire life, the tops, all else, oh god, Okay.
Speaker 1: And then when it was done, he though, he went fabulous.
Speaker 1: Of course that was great. He loved sports. I mean
Speaker 1: that's what he was doing, was watching this baseball game.
Speaker 1: Baseball off football, depended on the season. But I remember
Speaker 1: it when where he told me he had a gay
Speaker 1: football coach, and that was just like he didn't have
Speaker 1: to say that. I mean, that was really something else.
Speaker 1: I don't know if that was before or after I
Speaker 1: had come out, but he cared so much, and his
Speaker 1: caring was visible in the most deep way, and he
Speaker 1: was so supportive of my mom. It's fair to say
Speaker 1: that she was, by far in the entire family, closest
Speaker 1: to my grandfather. I remember it so distinctively. I was
Speaker 1: in my room. She never cries, I mean, she really
Speaker 1: doesn't cry, and she came in and she was crying
Speaker 1: and she said, Poppy died. I never experienced death that
Speaker 1: stening before, and I think me and Ava really felt
Speaker 1: strongly that in order for our mother to also get
Speaker 1: through it, it was important that we show our gratitude
Speaker 1: for the man he was. I didn't know anything about
Speaker 1: what they were writing, so the first time I ever
Speaker 1: heard it was at the funeral. But when I go
Speaker 1: to Florida in the winter, I take our eulogies with me,
Speaker 1: So Grahamy's going to read from the eulogy I wrote
Speaker 1: for Poppy. I've been avoiding writing this. It's really been
Speaker 1: hard thinking about Poppy and not getting emotional. He was
Speaker 1: such an important person in all of our lives. Most
Speaker 1: people in our family have huge personalities and loved being
Speaker 1: in the spotlight. But what separated Poppy from the rest
Speaker 1: of us was that he wasn't like that at all.
Speaker 1: He balanced out all the craziness in our family and
Speaker 1: was the only sane voice at times. He's more of
Speaker 1: a Meths than a day Am Yankees kind of guy.
Speaker 1: But it didn't matter that Poppy didn't have an extensive
Speaker 1: knowledge of musical theater. He said to me, you're a star.
Speaker 1: He believed in me. He believed in all of us
Speaker 1: because he had a heart of gold and loved seeing
Speaker 1: others succeed. When I think of Poppy, that's the way
Speaker 1: I will think about him. Poppy, you are the reason
Speaker 1: that I will always feel free to be unapologetically me.
Speaker 1: I love you so much, thank you. It wore my heart.
Speaker 1: You know, Jed was very difficult to relate to in
Speaker 1: those early years. He really was. And then oh yes,
Speaker 1: he matured beautifully. He really did. He really is concerned
Speaker 1: with the next guy. He's interesting and interested in everything
Speaker 1: in life, it seems lately. So I'm very proud of him.
Speaker 1: Thank you, Grammys. The matriarch of this family, I don't
Speaker 1: know what's going to happen when one day, God, she's
Speaker 1: not here anymore, because she really keeps everything in place,
Speaker 1: even from day one, even though I was tough deal
Speaker 1: with because for so long I was such a pain
Speaker 1: in the ass. We always have the connection and I
Speaker 1: think just kind of get each other. He let me
Speaker 1: come into his life a little bit, and I enjoy
Speaker 1: being there. I think I trust her more so now.
Speaker 1: That thing makes me more happy than to see this
Speaker 1: relationship evolving to what it is now. What has Jed
Speaker 1: taught me? You feel like you've learned from me? Really? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think I learned how to look into a mirror. Well,
Speaker 1: He's taught me that life is joyous, and he taught
Speaker 1: me how to laugh more, and he had taught me
Speaker 1: how to have good relationship. He always looks deeper into things.
Speaker 1: And I'm just very proud of Jed and I'm very
Speaker 1: proud to call him my grandson. That's very nice. Can
Speaker 1: I sidebar? Is that? Okay? If I sidebar right now? Sure?
Speaker 1: Grammy drove me to I first ever pride. It was
Speaker 1: in June, this past June. I mean that's really something else.
Speaker 1: Do you remember that? Where was it at something? I
Speaker 1: show up to you on a jacket in my underwear?
Speaker 1: Oh yes, and then you're having to drive me to
Speaker 1: my pride. I mean it was really something else. I
Speaker 1: always find myself having a wonderful time with you, Jid,
Speaker 1: I really do. When am I going to see you again?
Speaker 1: A sap? I really am excited for the next time
Speaker 1: we see each other. We'll meet again, don't know where,
Speaker 1: I don't know when, but we'll meet again some sunny day.
Speaker 1: You killed it. She really is something else, doesn't she. Well.
Speaker 1: I think that's a good ending. Thank you so much
Speaker 1: for this wonderful, wonderful interview. It really meant alone. It
Speaker 1: meant more to be What a way to end this series?
Speaker 1: Unconditional love oh my god. If nothing else, if they
Speaker 1: listened to this, just this one episode of Call Your Grandmother,
Speaker 1: people will see what the relationship between a grandchild and
Speaker 1: a grandparent could be. It's something beyond special. This has
Speaker 1: a magical quality to it. It really does. I can't
Speaker 1: stop wiping away the tears and blowing my nose. I
Speaker 1: don't even have a kleenex. And what he thinks of
Speaker 1: his grandfather will really reflect in his entire life and
Speaker 1: has made him the way he is. Yeah, but although
Speaker 1: she made a funny remark, so I told me had
Speaker 1: a look in the mirror, and he laughed. Already likes
Speaker 1: to look at himself. But it's funny how she picked
Speaker 1: that up. Look, he's only twenty years old. He's still
Speaker 1: a young man, and so he was a difficult child.
Speaker 1: Maybe he there were things about him he knew where
Speaker 1: you know, we're hard too, but it took a while
Speaker 1: to get to where he is. But he's at a
Speaker 1: good place and she's enjoying him as he is now,
Speaker 1: and it just encapsulates the word love. Love. It was
Speaker 1: just a lovely way to end the series. Unfortunately it's ending,
Speaker 1: but this was perfect. Absolutely, Look, they'll all be said
Speaker 1: when we go, when the grandparents go. But you know,
Speaker 1: when we leave, and we all do leave, the good
Speaker 1: memories and the things you did together, that's what they'll
Speaker 1: have to hold on to. Kind thoughts. Absolutely, absolutely forget
Speaker 1: money or anything like that. That doesn't mean anything. That's nothing,
Speaker 1: but the little intricate things of life. That's what we
Speaker 1: leave for them. Absolutely, they'll all get on when we're
Speaker 1: not here. I'm never dying, reader, I am. I'll never dying, okay, alright,
Speaker 1: because I always tell them I'm gonna be watching you.
Speaker 1: When I'm gonna be watching you like the Ghost and
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