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Speaker 1: Now here's a highlight from Coast to Coast AM on iHeartRadio.

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Speaker 2: And welcome back my friends, George Norri with you. Aaron

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Speaker 2: Ignance is with us founder of Hauntings Around America, a

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Speaker 2: paranormal history platform dedicated on covering the real stories between

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Speaker 2: behind America's most haunted places. Aaron is a historian and

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Speaker 2: history professor that blends documented history, eyewitness accounts, and unexplained

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Speaker 2: experiences to explore the mysteries that linger in forgotten towns,

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Speaker 2: old buildings, shadowed landmarks all across the country. Her book

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Speaker 2: is called a Haunting Diary Investigations with a ghost Hunter

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Speaker 2: at Her websites are linked up at coastdecoastdam dot com

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Speaker 2: eron Welcome to the program.

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Speaker 3: Thank you for having me, It's good to be here.

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Speaker 2: How did you get involved in hauntings?

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Speaker 3: So it dates back to when I was in high school.

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Speaker 4: I had a history teacher who was a ghost hunter,

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Speaker 4: and he would link history with ghosts on it and

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Speaker 4: it kind of captivated me and I kind of became

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Speaker 4: obsessed with it.

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Speaker 2: And here I am you are indeed, do you put

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Speaker 2: together Hauntings Around America? Tell us about that?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, So it.

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Speaker 4: Really started during COVID. I'm sure you heard that a lot.

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Speaker 4: But I was bored at home and kind of started

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Speaker 4: writing this blog about haunted locations that I had been

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Speaker 4: to and kind of linking the history of each of these.

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Speaker 4: I started with like New Orleans and Gettysburg and locations

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Speaker 4: like that, and you know, people just started reading it

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Speaker 4: and it kind of blew up, and I realized, you know,

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Speaker 4: I have to expand this and turn it into actual

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Speaker 4: ghost hunts. So that's kind of how it started.

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Speaker 2: Now, how'd you get involved in history and being a historian?

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Speaker 4: Well, I started actually as a nurse, and I realized

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Speaker 4: that was not for me. So I went back to school,

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Speaker 4: and you know, the only subject that really grasped my

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Speaker 4: attention was history. Know, I kind of angled that way,

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Speaker 4: and then once I got my bachelor's, I got a

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Speaker 4: master's and I started teaching history as a professor, and

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Speaker 4: I realized, you know, I love it and there is

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Speaker 4: a link between ghosts and history. So I kind of

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Speaker 4: put my two loves together and the rest is history.

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Speaker 2: Good for you. My granddaughter just got her nursing certification.

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Speaker 2: She loves it. Great.

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Speaker 4: That's awesome, you know, more power to her. I wish

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Speaker 4: I could have stuck it out, but I just couldn't.

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Speaker 2: Apparently there's a huge shortage of nurses around the country.

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Speaker 3: There is we need nurses badly.

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Speaker 2: What has been the scariest moment for you doing what

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Speaker 2: you do.

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Speaker 1: For me?

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Speaker 4: It started early when I didn't know what I was doing.

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Speaker 4: I was still it's the tales old time, right. I

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Speaker 4: started as a teenager right after my teacher was kind

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Speaker 4: of you know, this place is really haunted.

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Speaker 3: You should go check it out, you know, but be safe.

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Speaker 4: Teenager, your brain says, Okay, I'll just go do it

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Speaker 4: and we'll see what happens. And it was an old

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Speaker 4: asylum and the residents were not treated well there.

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Speaker 3: And my group and I, we had no idea what

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Speaker 4: Doing, were eighteen years old, and we took turns in

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Speaker 4: this basement kind of cellar where they used to lock

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Speaker 4: It was a really awful, really awful spot. There was

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Speaker 3: Floor, It was a dirt floor, and we closed the door.

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Speaker 3: There was no locks on it or anything like that.

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Speaker 4: And when it was my turn to sit in the room,

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Speaker 4: I immediately started feeling really uncomfortable, almost claustrophobic, which is

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Speaker 4: not something that I normally experienced. And I told my friends.

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Speaker 4: I was like, I need to get out. I want

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Speaker 4: to get out. I can't stand this. And we couldn't

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Speaker 3: The door was not open. I was in tears, and

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Speaker 3: it was probably about ten minutes.

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Speaker 4: Before the spirit or whatever released it and opened it up,

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Speaker 4: and that almost stopped my ghost hunting before it really started.

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Speaker 2: Was it a asylum that was closed or was it

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Speaker 4: It was closed, and what happened was it was an

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Speaker 4: old house farmhouse because I'm in Indiana, turned asylum, turned whatever,

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Speaker 4: The weird thing about this location is a couple of

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a it was an intense location.

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Speaker 2: Well, when the group of eighteen year olds went to

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Speaker 2: the asylum, did you think a bit more of a

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Speaker 4: This was before I really understood anything, and I don't

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Speaker 4: So for us, it was kind of like a party,

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Speaker 2: Once that moment started and occurred, when did you begin

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Speaker 2: to realize there's more to this than I think?

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Speaker 4: It took a little bit of time to really realize

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Speaker 4: what I was experiencing. I honestly, I don't know if

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Speaker 4: my brain was trying to override the situation or what.

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Speaker 4: But by the time I was in my tears, when

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Speaker 4: I was basically sobbing, I realized, you know, this is

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Speaker 4: something paranormal. It felt very very dark, it felt very scary,

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Speaker 4: and I realized, you know, there's something more here. And

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Speaker 4: it took me a couple years after that situation to

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Speaker 2: Now, where will hauntings are?

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Speaker 5: On?

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Speaker 2: America? Take you all over the place?

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Speaker 3: All over?

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Speaker 4: So far, I've investigated in forty two different states, but

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Speaker 4: I have written about all fifty of.

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Speaker 2: All the states, which one seemed to be the most haunted.

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Speaker 3: Pennsylvania, New York, and oddly enough, Indiana.

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Speaker 2: Indiana? Really why that's a good question.

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Speaker 3: I guess we're just so bored here. I don't know.

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Speaker 4: But you know, we have some old jails up where

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Speaker 4: I live in northwest Indiana. It's linked to a lot

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Speaker 4: of al Capone situations. You know, this was where they

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Speaker 4: they took care of a lot of people that way.

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Speaker 4: So I think that that has a lot to do

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Speaker 2: Interesting take on all of that. And what do you

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Speaker 2: think as cemetery is arin?

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Speaker 4: You know, for the most part, I don't think they're haunted.

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Speaker 4: You know, of course there are there are some exceptions

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Speaker 4: that cemeteries are more peaceful and it's more of, you know,

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Speaker 4: a memorial site than a ghost hunter site.

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Speaker 2: Since you've been doing this, do you recommend other people

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Speaker 3: I do. I do recommend it.

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Speaker 4: I recommend being safe though, because if not, you may

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Speaker 3: Asylum.

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Speaker 4: So I would recommend, you know, always being with someone

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Speaker 6: But I do.

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Speaker 3: Recommend getting in, even if you don't believe in it.

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Speaker 4: You know, it's a good time, It's it's a chance

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Speaker 4: to experience history.

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Speaker 3: In a different in a different way.

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Speaker 2: You mentioned Pennsylvania as being one of the most haunted states.

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Speaker 2: Is that because of Gettysburg?

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Speaker 4: It is, and that's where I had my very first

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Speaker 4: ghost experience. But I didn't really realize it at the

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Speaker 4: time that that's what I was experiencing. But yes, Gettysburg,

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Speaker 4: by far is one of the most haunted locations I've

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Speaker 2: What is it about death, Aaron that magnifies hauntings like

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Speaker 2: Gettysburg where so many people tragically died.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think it's just that the death was so tragic,

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Speaker 4: largest battle to ever happen on American soil. There's so

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Speaker 4: much death and despair there and such young men, and

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Speaker 4: I believe that it kind of just sticks around, you know,

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Speaker 4: and kind of plays off each other, the energy of it.

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Speaker 2: What have you concluded about dying based on your work?

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Speaker 4: I would say, based on my work that this is

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Speaker 4: not the end. That is just my theory on it.

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Speaker 4: But I believe that there is something afterwards. Is it

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Speaker 4: are they actual ghosts?

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Speaker 3: What are they? I don't know, but I do believe

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Speaker 3: that this is not the end.

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Speaker 2: You're convinced there's something.

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Speaker 3: There's got to be something. I'm not sure what, you know.

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Speaker 4: When I first went into this, I was thinking, you know,

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Speaker 4: this is just a fun little thing to do to

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Speaker 3: But I'm sure you know it's nothing really.

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Speaker 4: But now that I've been doing it for a few,

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Speaker 1: What is it?

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Speaker 4: I do believe that there are ghosts, and then I

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Speaker 4: do believe there are darker.

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Speaker 3: Beans, but you know, for the most part, it's spirits.

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Speaker 2: How do you deal with skeptics?

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Speaker 3: I embraced the skepticism. I've been there. I you know,

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Speaker 4: I appreciate it, because until you actually experience it, how

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Speaker 3: How do you you know?

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Speaker 4: How do you believe that? I did not believe it.

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Speaker 4: I just thought it was just a fun little game

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Speaker 4: or whatever until I actually experienced it, and then you realize, Okay,

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Speaker 4: So when I come across a skeptic, I invite them

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Speaker 4: I say, you know it, just come on and if

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Speaker 4: we experience something we do and then maybe I can

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Speaker 3: If not, well then that's fine too.

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Speaker 7: And I know you're going to want some after hearing this.

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Speaker 7: This is an amazing story. We've got Steven and Malachi

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Speaker 7: Gregory in Wilson, New Zealand. I understand that Malachi, who

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Speaker 7: is eight almost nine years old now, was suffering with

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Speaker 7: not just one or two warts, but I mean a

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Speaker 7: significant outbreak of warts all over his body, so significant

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Speaker 7: it impacted his ability to really function.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, he was having trouble even holding a pencil to

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Speaker 5: right was Tie's book.

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Speaker 6: Actually that got me thinking about it.

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Speaker 1: I'm not surprised.

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Speaker 7: It is an amazing immuno modulator, and so I can

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Speaker 7: see that it would work. And so at what point

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Speaker 7: did you see that there was actually improvement It's really

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Speaker 5: Well, look, we really started to notice it around twelve weeks.

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Speaker 5: You can see these things actually getting smaller and smaller

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Speaker 5: and then going down to with just little red marks.

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Speaker 5: The whole things are gone and we're talking about what's

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Speaker 5: you know one the size of the wanner. I thought,

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Speaker 5: no way, that's gonna Wow. That's just been miraculous to

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Speaker 5: see him get into a pair of shoes.

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Speaker 1: Yes, how wonderful.

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Speaker 6: It's great to see him so happy.

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Speaker 1: And yeah, absolutely wonderful.

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Speaker 6: Friends that have seen it, that is blown away.

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Speaker 2: What's the reaction of people who go on these tours

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Speaker 4: Usually when we first start, it's excitement. By the time

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Speaker 4: Others want to never do it again. It really depends

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Speaker 4: on what kind of night we have at the location.

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Speaker 2: You've had people so scared they didn't want to come back.

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Speaker 4: Yes, I on one situation in particular, I had a

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Speaker 4: do it. He said he was going to become a

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Speaker 4: own chapter or whatever. You know, he was pumped by

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Speaker 4: the Maybe an hour and a half into it, he

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Speaker 2: It scared him that quickly.

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Speaker 3: It was. Yeah, it was an intense night.

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Speaker 4: This was a location that it's an old jail and

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Speaker 3: And by an hour.

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Speaker 4: Into it, he had already got a disebodied voice that

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Speaker 3: I guess at him. I don't know.

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Speaker 4: I wasn't with him at that particular moment, but I

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Speaker 4: heard him screaming and I went running to him. You

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Speaker 4: I want to go home, and I was like, oh

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Speaker 4: my goodness, I don't know what happened to you. But

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Speaker 4: he was gone before he gave us the rest of

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Speaker 2: Have you ever been on a ghost hunt where somebody

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Speaker 2: got hurt.

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Speaker 4: No, I've never been on where someone's gotten hurt. I

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Speaker 4: have been pushed myself, but that's as far as it's went.

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Speaker 2: Did they want to hurt you?

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Speaker 4: I don't think that they wanted to hurt me, more

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Speaker 4: so to let me know, Hey, you know, I'm here

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Speaker 4: and I don't necessarily want you here. It was more

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Speaker 4: of a shove than, you know, like a push to

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Speaker 2: Do any of these ghosts or entities ever attached themselves

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Speaker 4: I personally have not had that happen. I have heard

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Speaker 3: I have.

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Speaker 4: However, I'm a historian and I collect Civil War relics,

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Speaker 3: Shiloh, you name it.

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Speaker 4: And in one particular instance, I received a bayonet from Gettysburg.

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Speaker 4: And that night, my husband, who does not like the

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Speaker 4: whole ghost thing, he does not want.

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Speaker 3: Anything to do with it. He believes in it, he

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Speaker 3: just wants nothing to do with it.

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Speaker 4: He was downstairs and he looked over to the side

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Speaker 4: and there was this Civil War soldier standing there and he,

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Speaker 4: you know, he screamed, and it woke me up. I

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Speaker 4: there was a Civil War soldier there and he was

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Speaker 4: holding a banonet, and he didn't know that I had

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Speaker 4: bought the bayonet. He did not know that I had

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Speaker 4: gotten it in that morning, so you know, it was

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Speaker 4: It was very interesting, but needless to say, I have

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Speaker 4: to keep the bayonet in our storage because he doesn't

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Speaker 4: want it anywhere around him.

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Speaker 2: Do you think the ghost was attached to the bayonet?

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Speaker 3: I do.

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Speaker 4: I do, And I knew that it was a Union

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Speaker 4: bayonet just because I knew who it was and the

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Speaker 4: way that my husband described him. He said that he

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Speaker 2: What do you think ghosts are? If somebody said, what's

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Speaker 2: your definition, what would you say?

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Speaker 4: I would say, ghosts are, you know, spirits of those

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Speaker 4: came before us. Some of them, I would say, are

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Speaker 4: residual hauntings, which are basically nature's video camera. And then

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Speaker 4: some are intelligent, which are actually here.

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Speaker 2: Do they know they're dead?

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Speaker 3: I believe.

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Speaker 1: So.

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Speaker 4: I think everyone that I've ever interacted with through VP

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Speaker 2: Yes, have you ever communicated with a spirit or a

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Speaker 4: I have heard short bursts, you know, maybe one or

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Speaker 4: two words at a time. One time, I was on

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Speaker 4: and we were having kind of a dud night, and

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Speaker 4: which it happens quite often. It's rarely like ghost Hunters

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Speaker 4: were you know on TV you see them constantly interacting

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Speaker 4: with spirits. Most of the time, they're very slow. This

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Speaker 3: Around the boiler room and.

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Speaker 4: The man that was taking us around was telling us

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Speaker 4: a story about a woman who had passed in this

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Speaker 4: and then alliver heard, all of a sudden, you hear

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Speaker 4: her go sir, really loud like into attention. It was

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Speaker 4: not through EVP, it was, you know, we heard it

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Speaker 4: it turns out that's where she had passed away.

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Speaker 2: Relate for us there on one of your favorite stories.

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Speaker 4: One of my favorites would be down at the Gold

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Speaker 4: Coast Railroad Museum in Miami. I joined War Party normal

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Speaker 4: and I didn't know really what to expect from that

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Speaker 3: It was an old blimp I think it was a base,

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Speaker 4: During World War Two. It's a very interesting location to

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Speaker 4: begin with. But they turned it into a train museum

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Speaker 4: and we were there and we were on different different cars,

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Speaker 4: and each time we would sit down to do an EVP,

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Speaker 4: the spirit would.

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Speaker 3: Come through and each time to say I hate.

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Speaker 4: Erin, and they just kept saying it, and it was

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Speaker 4: so funny because you know, I had never been there before,

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Speaker 4: and I don't know what I did to necessarily irritate

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Speaker 4: the spirit, but throughout the night, for maybe six hours straight,

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Speaker 4: once an hour we would get I hate Erin.

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Speaker 2: I was gonna say, what have you done for them?

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Speaker 2: They hate you?

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Speaker 4: I thank you, I appreciate that I thought so too,

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Speaker 4: but apparently I wasn't the ghost favorite because they were picking.

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Speaker 3: On me all night.

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Speaker 4: There was one time where we were we were in

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Speaker 4: and I had makeup on and you could actually see

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Speaker 3: So the spirit was all over me whole night.

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Speaker 2: Have you ever had a situation thereon where a child

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Speaker 3: I don't know.

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Speaker 4: If it was actually a child ghost, but at Waverly

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Speaker 4: Hills there is a spirit.

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Speaker 3: They say his name is Timmy.

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Speaker 4: I haven't found anything to say that that is actually him.

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Speaker 4: But up on the fifth floor there is a ball

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Speaker 4: that you can play with, and I was telling him,

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Speaker 4: you know, I'm I'm here, and I you know, I'm

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Speaker 4: a mom. You know, if you want to play ball

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Speaker 4: with me, I'll kick the ball to you. And so

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Speaker 4: I kicked the ball and then it went to the

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Speaker 4: watched it as it went in a circle, and then

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Speaker 4: he kicked.

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Speaker 3: It back to me.

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Speaker 4: And I have this on video, because you know, it

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Speaker 4: what I think is a child spirit.

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Speaker 2: But you've never been hurt.

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Speaker 3: Never been hurt.

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Speaker 4: I've been scared a few times, more than a few times,

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Speaker 4: but I've never been hurt. I've only pushed. I've been

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Speaker 2: Fortunately, ever been on the Haunted Queen Mary.

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Speaker 4: I have been there once, not for a ghost hunt, surprisingly,

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Speaker 3: I hope to go back very very soon. That one

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Speaker 3: is you know, that one's incredible.

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Speaker 2: I've been on it a couple of times and they

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Speaker 4: I yeah, I've heard that, and from a couple of

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Speaker 4: people I've talked to that have actually been on it,

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Speaker 4: they've had full body apparitions that they've actually seen on

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Speaker 4: them are on it, And I think that's incredible because

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Speaker 4: we consider that the holy grail of ghost hunting to

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Speaker 4: see an apparition. So yeah, they saw a woman walk

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