WEBVTT - Lance Ringler 0:00:00.080 --> 0:00:02.840 I miss the green, for example, I'm already upset. When 0:00:02.840 --> 0:00:04.960 I find my ball in the bunker, I'm really upset. 0:00:05.040 --> 0:00:07.000 And when I find my ball in a brid Egg 0:00:07.240 --> 0:00:11.959 Friday Egg, the dreaded Frida Egg, Fridagrida bride Egg, Lie, 0:00:11.960 --> 0:00:12.760 I'm about ready. 0:00:12.680 --> 0:00:14.160 To run off the golf course. 0:00:39.520 --> 0:00:42.440 Ladies and gentlemen, welcome back to another edition of the 0:00:42.440 --> 0:00:46.640 Frida Egg Podcast. We are here live at rich Harvis 0:00:46.680 --> 0:00:50.599 Farms for the National Championships, and we are joined by 0:00:50.760 --> 0:00:54.760 Lance Wrangler of Golf Week. Lance is, you know, kind 0:00:54.800 --> 0:00:57.040 of the head honto when it comes to college golf 0:00:57.520 --> 0:00:59.320 reporting and news. 0:00:59.720 --> 0:01:00.880 So Lance, welcome on. 0:01:01.080 --> 0:01:01.680 Thanks for having me. 0:01:01.800 --> 0:01:06.320 Eddie So first said, you know, I think give the 0:01:06.360 --> 0:01:09.200 listeners a little bit about yourself and how you got 0:01:09.440 --> 0:01:12.600 into the college golf world and the golf world in general. 0:01:12.840 --> 0:01:16.119 Well, wow, it's been a shoot. It's been maybe twenty 0:01:16.200 --> 0:01:17.840 years now. I think I've been doing this. I think 0:01:17.840 --> 0:01:22.640 this is my eighteenth national championship. Basically, I coached college 0:01:22.640 --> 0:01:25.840 golf for two years at the University Idaho, then spent 0:01:25.880 --> 0:01:29.160 a year at Iowa State University. All after I spent 0:01:29.440 --> 0:01:31.839 two years out catting on the PGA Tour. Or season 0:01:31.880 --> 0:01:33.920 a half or so on the PGA Tour. So I 0:01:34.000 --> 0:01:35.880 just kind of jumped into golf right away. I was 0:01:35.880 --> 0:01:39.480 a basketball guy originally being from Bloomington, Indiana, but got 0:01:39.480 --> 0:01:42.399 involved with golf and then with Jeff Sagrin to create 0:01:42.400 --> 0:01:45.520 the Golf Week Saguran rankings, and from there just kind 0:01:45.520 --> 0:01:48.640 of snowballed into Golf Week and my roles and my 0:01:49.320 --> 0:01:52.640 title or position at Golf Week is evolved and kind 0:01:52.640 --> 0:01:54.520 of just a college of golf guy. So it's I 0:01:54.600 --> 0:01:56.760 enjoy it and it's a lot of fun, you know, 0:01:56.800 --> 0:01:59.600 being around the players before they get to that next level. 0:01:59.760 --> 0:02:02.120 Yeah, yeah, I bet you got all you got if 0:02:02.160 --> 0:02:04.400 you went to a tour event, you'd be like a celebrity. 0:02:04.680 --> 0:02:05.240 Well, I see. 0:02:05.560 --> 0:02:07.160 The thing is, I've been to a few and I 0:02:07.200 --> 0:02:11.520 and it's interesting to see how they have changed. Some 0:02:11.600 --> 0:02:14.640 of the guys are very cordial and open and go 0:02:14.639 --> 0:02:16.800 out of their way and and and talk to you, 0:02:16.840 --> 0:02:18.720 and the other guys just kind of nod their head, 0:02:18.760 --> 0:02:20.800 you know. So it's a because it's been a lot 0:02:20.840 --> 0:02:22.120 of them, you know, going all the way back to 0:02:22.680 --> 0:02:25.160 you know, shoot, when Billy Horschell was in college. I'm 0:02:25.200 --> 0:02:27.200 trying to think when we really hit the scene hard, 0:02:28.080 --> 0:02:33.160 probably about two thousand five ish or six ish in 0:02:33.200 --> 0:02:35.960 that area is when we were doing our our Golf 0:02:35.960 --> 0:02:38.120 week TV dot com. And I used to have my 0:02:38.480 --> 0:02:42.840 daily video show off campus with Lance Ringler that we did, 0:02:43.040 --> 0:02:45.000 you know, from two thousand and seven eight nine, So 0:02:45.280 --> 0:02:47.440 you know, we were way ahead of the curve with video. 0:02:47.520 --> 0:02:49.120 Now we should we really need to be doing that again. 0:02:49.200 --> 0:02:51.200 But uh and I was doing a show every day 0:02:51.680 --> 0:02:53.840 all during the spring and fall season, so I got to. 0:02:53.919 --> 0:02:56.200 Went to a lot of events. So yeah, there'd be 0:02:56.240 --> 0:02:57.200 a few out there for sure. 0:02:57.480 --> 0:03:01.640 Who who's your favorite guy, whether they're in college golf 0:03:01.680 --> 0:03:04.280 now or out on tour that you or not on tour, 0:03:04.440 --> 0:03:06.680 you know, they could be on uh yeah, on the 0:03:06.680 --> 0:03:08.000 web or on Canadians. 0:03:08.120 --> 0:03:10.520 You just mean of guys who were court you know. 0:03:11.000 --> 0:03:13.200 Like you know a few favorite guys. 0:03:13.360 --> 0:03:15.480 I would say Brian Harmon was one of the guys 0:03:15.480 --> 0:03:18.120 that was, you know, he was real good in college, 0:03:18.600 --> 0:03:21.440 real down to earth. And then yeah, and then when 0:03:21.520 --> 0:03:23.240 when I when I've seen him a few times when 0:03:23.240 --> 0:03:26.880 I've been to like the Greenbriarn such, he's just super guy. 0:03:27.120 --> 0:03:28.840 I'd say he's right at the top of the list. 0:03:28.880 --> 0:03:31.440 You know, Ricky was always good. Even I haven't seen 0:03:31.520 --> 0:03:33.280 Ricky in a few years now, but he was super 0:03:33.320 --> 0:03:35.160 in college. And I did see him one time when 0:03:35.160 --> 0:03:38.040 he was out there and very cordial and and uh 0:03:38.240 --> 0:03:41.280 Ricky Follery that is, he's one of the guys in golf. 0:03:41.040 --> 0:03:43.040 You can go by one day, but not Ricky Barnes. 0:03:43.120 --> 0:03:44.080 No, not Ricky Barnes. 0:03:45.160 --> 0:03:47.680 But I don't I don't really have a problem Ricky Barnes. 0:03:47.720 --> 0:03:50.200 Just you know, just when we say Ricky, you know, 0:03:50.280 --> 0:03:52.320 we know when we're when we're talking basketball, when we 0:03:52.320 --> 0:03:55.240 say Michael, we know we're talking about But yeah, so 0:03:55.560 --> 0:03:57.200 it's it's fun. I'd like to get out to a 0:03:57.240 --> 0:03:59.200 few more pro events here and there, but you know, 0:03:59.480 --> 0:03:59.880 I like to. 0:04:00.560 --> 0:04:03.120 Uh huh, that's great. So you mentioned you were on 0:04:03.200 --> 0:04:05.120 a bag for a year and a half. Yeah, who 0:04:05.160 --> 0:04:05.600 do you look? 0:04:05.920 --> 0:04:06.840 Mainly Craig Bowden. 0:04:07.280 --> 0:04:09.880 Craig Bowden was I think he had his tour card 0:04:10.520 --> 0:04:12.280 maybe off and on about four times. 0:04:12.440 --> 0:04:13.880 Is he Is he a college coach? 0:04:13.960 --> 0:04:14.160 Now? 0:04:14.240 --> 0:04:16.960 No, no, No, he works for He's a a KBS 0:04:17.160 --> 0:04:18.600 KBS Shafts tour rep. 0:04:18.920 --> 0:04:20.839 He just a short hitter. 0:04:20.880 --> 0:04:23.440 But you know, Craig people always marveled at Craig how 0:04:23.680 --> 0:04:25.839 he made so much money or was able to stay 0:04:25.839 --> 0:04:27.359 out there. I think he won two or three times 0:04:27.360 --> 0:04:29.880 on the Nike Tour, web dot com, whatever you want 0:04:29.880 --> 0:04:30.240 to call it. 0:04:31.200 --> 0:04:32.200 He just didn't hit it very far. 0:04:32.839 --> 0:04:37.000 You know, you bring up distance being out here this week, 0:04:37.160 --> 0:04:41.200 I mean all these kids, Yeah, just bombit. Have you 0:04:41.279 --> 0:04:45.920 seen like a seismic change in the last say five years, 0:04:45.960 --> 0:04:49.240 Like when when was there just a flip that? 0:04:49.240 --> 0:04:50.000 That's a great question. 0:04:50.040 --> 0:04:52.000 I actually wrote a story last year, a little column 0:04:52.040 --> 0:04:54.840 at Eugene about the type of kids were seen. 0:04:56.320 --> 0:04:59.680 Yeah, it changed definitely for my time. When I was 0:04:59.680 --> 0:05:02.040 falling in college golf in the late eighties. 0:05:03.720 --> 0:05:08.159 To probably the right around two thousand, you started to 0:05:08.200 --> 0:05:12.000 see kids that didn't look like golfers. I always say 0:05:12.080 --> 0:05:13.840 that there was a year, and I think it might 0:05:13.880 --> 0:05:15.360 have been the year Texas A and M won the 0:05:15.400 --> 0:05:19.080 national championship at Inverness. That team, a few of those 0:05:19.080 --> 0:05:22.360 players look like middle linebackers. And then you know they 0:05:22.520 --> 0:05:24.880 they had a knack for having you know, three four 0:05:25.000 --> 0:05:27.880 kids that just if they were standing in the weight room, 0:05:28.680 --> 0:05:30.520 you wouldn't have thought they were golfers. And that goes 0:05:30.760 --> 0:05:32.840 a lot of teams have guys like that. So yes, 0:05:32.880 --> 0:05:36.440 there's definitely been a change in the type of athletes. 0:05:36.440 --> 0:05:38.640 I mean when they're walking around out here, you don't 0:05:38.680 --> 0:05:39.919 see many kids. 0:05:39.640 --> 0:05:43.320 That don't look athletic. They're athletic looking kids, and they 0:05:43.320 --> 0:05:45.560 do they hit it, they hit. 0:05:45.440 --> 0:05:47.240 It, they pound it, and then they just go get it. 0:05:47.240 --> 0:05:49.680 They don't there's not a point a point B game. 0:05:49.720 --> 0:05:50.040 Really. 0:05:50.080 --> 0:05:51.159 I mean I shouldn't say that. 0:05:51.160 --> 0:05:53.880 There's still you know, there's course management stuff, but they 0:05:53.880 --> 0:05:55.040 ain't afraid to just rip it. 0:05:55.440 --> 0:05:55.680 Yeah. 0:05:56.080 --> 0:05:58.240 I think that's you know, one of my big takeaways 0:05:58.279 --> 0:06:01.520 from this week is how these kids are. But then also, 0:06:01.680 --> 0:06:04.040 like he talked to these kids, in their schedule, I mean, 0:06:04.040 --> 0:06:07.440 they're their daily schedules. These kids, you know, there are 0:06:07.680 --> 0:06:10.560 professional golfers who go to a couple hours of class 0:06:10.560 --> 0:06:11.839 a day, and you know, they. 0:06:11.720 --> 0:06:14.920 Work and they are working their tails. 0:06:14.600 --> 0:06:17.480 Off because they obviously are you know, they're going to class, 0:06:17.520 --> 0:06:20.200 their studying, and but the you know, listening to them 0:06:20.200 --> 0:06:22.520 talk about how they do. You know, they have body work. 0:06:22.600 --> 0:06:25.200 You know, they get they're always making sure that their. 0:06:25.080 --> 0:06:25.719 Body is right. 0:06:25.760 --> 0:06:28.120 They're working out, and then they're spending four or five 0:06:28.160 --> 0:06:32.360 hours a day practicing. I mean, I imagine that this this 0:06:32.440 --> 0:06:35.280 whole aspect of the game has changed dramatically. 0:06:35.400 --> 0:06:37.680 We can thank Tiger Woods for that, I mean because seriously, 0:06:37.760 --> 0:06:39.839 I mean, I'm not sure if we would have saw 0:06:39.880 --> 0:06:43.080 that movement. We probably would have eventually, but he changed that. 0:06:43.200 --> 0:06:45.760 He you know, he was a game changer. He's like 0:06:45.800 --> 0:06:48.760 Wilt Chamberlain, you know, in basketball. I mean, he changed 0:06:48.800 --> 0:06:50.960 the way people approach the way they play golf, the 0:06:51.000 --> 0:06:52.039 way they prepare for golf. 0:06:53.320 --> 0:06:55.120 And that's that's what these kids do now. 0:06:55.160 --> 0:06:57.600 I mean back in the day, I mean, you know, 0:06:58.400 --> 0:07:00.880 college teams maybe in the eighties, I don't know if 0:07:01.080 --> 0:07:04.840 all of them had the strength the strength programs, the 0:07:05.600 --> 0:07:09.960 you know, the water workouts, the yoga, the stretching. The 0:07:10.000 --> 0:07:12.920 stuff that they do now is very much part and 0:07:12.920 --> 0:07:14.640 it used to be just kind of an elective thing. 0:07:15.080 --> 0:07:17.080 Now it's very much part of their daily routine. And 0:07:17.360 --> 0:07:19.760 it carries over into the pro pro tours. 0:07:19.920 --> 0:07:21.840 Yeah, so it's just a launching pad. 0:07:21.920 --> 0:07:25.120 And obviously we're seeing with like John Rahm and a 0:07:25.160 --> 0:07:28.360 lot of more young guys making an impact quicker on tour, 0:07:28.440 --> 0:07:30.200 and I think a lot of it has to do 0:07:30.280 --> 0:07:34.160 with the development and the way these kids prepare out here, 0:07:34.600 --> 0:07:36.520 you know, getting ready with the programs. 0:07:36.600 --> 0:07:38.640 You know, these kids are hitting the ground running. They 0:07:39.040 --> 0:07:39.720 they kind of. 0:07:39.680 --> 0:07:42.080 Know what to, you know, how to you know, their 0:07:42.160 --> 0:07:45.640 lives are now a lot on the road. They're traveling there, 0:07:45.720 --> 0:07:48.440 they're starting to learn how to balance life on the road. 0:07:48.760 --> 0:07:51.080 Obviously they're in a team setting, but you know that 0:07:51.600 --> 0:07:55.840 it's it's these kids treat this game like professionals due 0:07:55.880 --> 0:08:00.240 to a certain extent. So you know, for the people 0:08:00.280 --> 0:08:03.480 that are a little bit maybe less uh in the weeds, 0:08:03.520 --> 0:08:07.520 like uh me and not so much me compared to you, 0:08:07.600 --> 0:08:11.040 Like who are you know, maybe uh three or four 0:08:11.160 --> 0:08:12.760 names that everybody. 0:08:12.400 --> 0:08:14.880 Should know on the college golf circuit. 0:08:15.000 --> 0:08:17.680 Well, obviously it starts with Maverickmeally. You know, he's the 0:08:17.680 --> 0:08:20.680 one kid who's been around a while, you know, senior 0:08:20.680 --> 0:08:24.720 now at Stanford. He's the kid who you know, followed 0:08:24.720 --> 0:08:27.640 in the footsteps of Patrick Rodgers and and and the 0:08:27.720 --> 0:08:30.560 kid that you know you expect to be out there 0:08:30.840 --> 0:08:31.920 at some point whether or not. 0:08:31.960 --> 0:08:33.320 You know, there's always been a lot of Tobacca. 0:08:33.320 --> 0:08:35.520 If he's even gonna turn pro just because he's I 0:08:35.520 --> 0:08:37.560 guess he's just so smart. He could just jump into 0:08:37.600 --> 0:08:39.960 the real world and and change people's lives. But uh, 0:08:40.520 --> 0:08:43.400 he's he's the one kid. Obviously, Sam Burns is a tremendous, 0:08:43.640 --> 0:08:46.840 tremendous talent. Uh, if you've had a chance to watch 0:08:46.920 --> 0:08:50.760 him play, he's one that we're expecting to announce he's 0:08:50.760 --> 0:08:52.679 gonna be turning pro after the championship or at least 0:08:52.679 --> 0:08:53.520 sometime this summer. 0:08:54.480 --> 0:08:55.320 He's he's one. 0:08:55.960 --> 0:08:58.240 The other thing, I'm not sure that we we're gonna 0:08:58.240 --> 0:09:00.640 see a lot of the this this class jump right 0:09:00.640 --> 0:09:04.080 out there. There's there's a few more players in the 0:09:04.080 --> 0:09:06.000 Wyndham Clark obviously he's been up there that had a good, 0:09:06.000 --> 0:09:09.960 tremendous year. There's there's some kids that I that haven't 0:09:09.960 --> 0:09:13.400 played as well as I thought they might have. But 0:09:13.480 --> 0:09:16.040 I'm not sure how deep this class is really, you know. 0:09:16.200 --> 0:09:17.760 But but there's always going to be a few names. 0:09:17.760 --> 0:09:19.760 And then there's always the names. I mean, you know, 0:09:19.960 --> 0:09:22.120 j T. Poston, who's out there now? You know the kids, like, 0:09:22.160 --> 0:09:23.880 there's gonna be a kid or two that come out 0:09:23.920 --> 0:09:26.520 of this group somewhere down the line that that pop 0:09:26.559 --> 0:09:30.000 out there and and turn heads and get and play well. 0:09:30.280 --> 0:09:31.400 So you know, JT. 0:09:31.559 --> 0:09:34.439 Post is one of my favorite stories of the rookies 0:09:34.480 --> 0:09:36.920 on tour just because he you know, he went under recruited. 0:09:36.960 --> 0:09:39.400 He ended up winning the state championships. Then he got recruited, 0:09:39.400 --> 0:09:43.280 but he'd already signed with with Western Carolina, and you know, 0:09:43.320 --> 0:09:47.000 he became the first kid in Western Carolina history to 0:09:47.000 --> 0:09:50.200 make it to the NCAA's right, So, who would you 0:09:50.240 --> 0:09:53.880 say is kind of of these players, like maybe a 0:09:53.920 --> 0:09:57.720 guy that goes to a smaller school that you wouldn't 0:09:57.760 --> 0:09:59.880 be surprised to see make it out on tour. 0:10:00.240 --> 0:10:02.839 That's a tough one because that's so hard to predict. 0:10:02.880 --> 0:10:04.679 I remember I used to. I used to every year 0:10:04.679 --> 0:10:05.880 at the end of the year, I'd come up with 0:10:05.920 --> 0:10:08.000 a list of names of like, you know, five or 0:10:08.720 --> 0:10:10.880 six guys that I thought we can't miss kids. And 0:10:10.920 --> 0:10:12.679 I remember looking back, I haven't done it in a while, 0:10:12.720 --> 0:10:15.080 but I remember looking back at that list and I 0:10:15.160 --> 0:10:18.000 was like, huh, and none of those kids have made it. 0:10:18.040 --> 0:10:20.839 I mean, so it's really really hard to predict. I mean, 0:10:20.960 --> 0:10:23.600 especially when you start digging down deep. The first kid 0:10:23.600 --> 0:10:27.480 that will jump out in that from a small school 0:10:27.480 --> 0:10:28.920 and I'm not sure if he's a small name but 0:10:29.000 --> 0:10:31.960 Dawson Armstrong, you know, he's the first kid. 0:10:32.080 --> 0:10:33.800 He kind of fits that bill. He fits that bill 0:10:33.840 --> 0:10:34.079 of the. 0:10:34.440 --> 0:10:36.760 Of those kids, you know, like a JT post, And 0:10:36.840 --> 0:10:38.079 so that would probably be. 0:10:38.000 --> 0:10:39.719 The one kid everyone would kind of look at it. 0:10:39.880 --> 0:10:41.480 Who's who's playing college golf? 0:10:41.520 --> 0:10:46.040 Now, Yeah, Dawson Armstrong. So he plays at lipscumb You know, 0:10:46.440 --> 0:10:47.160 what's the story? 0:10:47.200 --> 0:10:48.319 Why did he You. 0:10:48.280 --> 0:10:50.720 Know, I think it was the same thing. I think 0:10:50.760 --> 0:10:52.000 he was a little bit underrecruited. 0:10:52.000 --> 0:10:54.320 And I'm not exactly sure on why he ended up 0:10:54.360 --> 0:10:57.000 at Lipscomb, but I mean I'm assuming it was underrecruited. 0:10:57.000 --> 0:11:00.120 And and you know, and a lot of kids they 0:11:00.160 --> 0:11:01.679 hit their peaks different times. I mean, a lot of 0:11:01.760 --> 0:11:03.719 kids end up get getting to college and they don't 0:11:03.760 --> 0:11:04.400 pan out either. 0:11:04.640 --> 0:11:07.719 Yeah, I grew three inches in college and now a 0:11:07.720 --> 0:11:10.439 sudden hit the ball for forty yards further as a 0:11:10.640 --> 0:11:12.000 different player, exactly. 0:11:12.920 --> 0:11:16.040 So you know, in today's today's a pivotal day. 0:11:16.040 --> 0:11:19.520 They were cutting to top fifteen, and then tomorrow we 0:11:19.679 --> 0:11:22.600 cut to the top eight. You know, a lot of 0:11:22.640 --> 0:11:27.680 the big favorites have moved up and into position. A 0:11:27.760 --> 0:11:30.600 few you know, like you know, Stanford is probably the 0:11:30.600 --> 0:11:33.400 biggest surprise out outside the top fifteen. 0:11:34.320 --> 0:11:36.360 You know, what are your big takeaways from the tournament 0:11:36.520 --> 0:11:36.880 so far? 0:11:37.400 --> 0:11:39.680 I think if we just talk about the biggest headline 0:11:39.720 --> 0:11:41.280 right now, I think is the fact that these kids 0:11:41.280 --> 0:11:43.160 are are scoring so well. 0:11:43.320 --> 0:11:44.440 Yeah, that's probably the best. 0:11:44.480 --> 0:11:50.200 Sometimes in golf, unlike other sports, the golf course becomes 0:11:50.200 --> 0:11:52.680 the story, and it happens all the time in the Major, 0:11:52.800 --> 0:11:54.840 especially early on in the week, until we get to 0:11:54.840 --> 0:11:56.440 the day when they actually crown the champion. 0:11:56.840 --> 0:11:58.560 I think so far, I think the story has really 0:11:58.559 --> 0:11:59.280 been the golf course. 0:11:59.280 --> 0:12:03.680 I mean, because it was so so difficult during the 0:12:03.720 --> 0:12:09.120 women's event. And I still don't think that they they 0:12:09.480 --> 0:12:12.400 failed on the setup on the women, even though they've 0:12:12.440 --> 0:12:16.360 probably played the par threes collectively too long. They probably 0:12:16.440 --> 0:12:18.880 could have done some few things with some te location. 0:12:19.080 --> 0:12:21.520 There's some t spots and some whole locations to make 0:12:21.559 --> 0:12:22.040 it easier. 0:12:22.400 --> 0:12:23.360 I still will say that. 0:12:23.320 --> 0:12:26.040 I think that the conditions were the biggest reason for 0:12:26.040 --> 0:12:29.520 the high scoring for the women. But for the men, 0:12:29.600 --> 0:12:32.400 I think what happened, and I could be a little 0:12:32.440 --> 0:12:34.080 bit off on this, they could have had a lot 0:12:34.120 --> 0:12:36.280 of this set prior to coming here because they were 0:12:36.280 --> 0:12:38.240 afraid it was going to be so difficult. I mean, 0:12:38.240 --> 0:12:39.880 that's what all we talked about. The rough's going to 0:12:39.920 --> 0:12:42.240 be high, the greens are going to be fast. They're 0:12:42.280 --> 0:12:44.040 small greens for some of the clubs. 0:12:43.720 --> 0:12:44.560 That you have in your hand. 0:12:45.320 --> 0:12:49.880 I think the NCAA committee wisely aired on let's see 0:12:49.880 --> 0:12:50.559 some red numbers. 0:12:50.559 --> 0:12:52.559 I mean, look at these scores. I mean, I mean 0:12:53.200 --> 0:12:56.400 you just look at you know. I wouldn't have I. 0:12:56.320 --> 0:12:58.360 Honestly, Andy, I would have thought that there might only 0:12:58.440 --> 0:13:00.560 been one or two teams under par at this point 0:13:00.600 --> 0:13:03.640 in time in the tournament. And that is probably the 0:13:03.679 --> 0:13:08.920 biggest story right now, is that there their place. Well, 0:13:08.960 --> 0:13:10.800 I would have thought that today they would have tightened 0:13:10.840 --> 0:13:12.760 the screws a little bit, done some things to make 0:13:12.800 --> 0:13:13.720 it a little more difficult. 0:13:13.720 --> 0:13:16.520 But I mean the flags were in tough positions today. 0:13:16.520 --> 0:13:18.560 I was out there, and I mean like it was 0:13:18.640 --> 0:13:21.240 really impressive. I mean, Rico Joe he had at seven 0:13:21.360 --> 0:13:23.440 under through eleven, he almost was eight. I mean he 0:13:23.600 --> 0:13:26.079 just missed the eagle butt. But you know, I think 0:13:26.120 --> 0:13:28.000 the biggest thing, and we see it week in week 0:13:28.040 --> 0:13:30.800 out on the PGA Tour, is that when the golf 0:13:30.840 --> 0:13:33.600 course is soft, you know this place has taken a 0:13:33.600 --> 0:13:36.280 lot of rain, which you know, it makes the fairways soft, 0:13:36.320 --> 0:13:39.000 so they're easier to hit. You can be a little 0:13:39.000 --> 0:13:41.480 bit more aggressive off the team because these fairways that 0:13:41.520 --> 0:13:44.040 your ball's not bounding through into the rough. And then 0:13:44.120 --> 0:13:47.520 also likewise on the greens, they're very receptive. You know, 0:13:47.600 --> 0:13:51.439 these the when the conditions are soft, every golf course 0:13:51.440 --> 0:13:54.199 gets lit up now on on tour. I mean even 0:13:54.280 --> 0:13:58.080 to extent of Oakmont had record low scores last year 0:13:58.120 --> 0:14:01.880 because of how soft it was, So you know this, 0:14:02.400 --> 0:14:05.360 I think that plays a part in it. But also 0:14:05.440 --> 0:14:08.559 I do agree like they haven't played all the tea's back, 0:14:08.640 --> 0:14:12.120 which is you know, really good, you know outside of 0:14:12.280 --> 0:14:15.520 you know, the seventeenth hole. No hole is really just 0:14:15.800 --> 0:14:19.240 you know, maybe the seventeenth hole might be the whole 0:14:19.520 --> 0:14:23.200 of any hole I've ever seen with more just massive 0:14:23.280 --> 0:14:26.600 numbers from from guys high on the leader board. 0:14:26.480 --> 0:14:29.400 It's the seventeenth hole. I mean, I I mean. 0:14:29.280 --> 0:14:31.200 I coached for three years, I caddied for a couple. 0:14:31.320 --> 0:14:34.400 I could be crazy and I say this, but I wouldn't. 0:14:34.440 --> 0:14:37.160 I'd play this hole. I would not hit driver. 0:14:36.920 --> 0:14:38.720 Off the tee. I'd put in the fairway. 0:14:39.040 --> 0:14:43.480 I would literally wedge it to another spot, and then 0:14:43.520 --> 0:14:45.920 from that spot I would wedge it back onto the 0:14:45.960 --> 0:14:48.240 green and try to make four that way. If not, 0:14:48.360 --> 0:14:50.360 I'm walking out of there with a five. Yeah, I 0:14:50.480 --> 0:14:53.040 just I mean going going at it from two hundred, 0:14:53.080 --> 0:14:54.840 from one eighty to two ten. 0:14:57.080 --> 0:14:59.000 There's there's little room for air on that hole. 0:14:59.120 --> 0:14:59.440 Yeah. 0:14:59.480 --> 0:15:01.360 So, and I I think, you know, in match play, 0:15:01.760 --> 0:15:03.960 that's seventeen eighteen is going to be a heck of. 0:15:03.960 --> 0:15:07.720 A finish because you have well, he's starting the sixteen. 0:15:07.880 --> 0:15:11.640 Even fifteen fifteen is not playing. When we actually played 0:15:11.640 --> 0:15:13.240 the other fifteen, I thought was going to be a 0:15:13.320 --> 0:15:16.440 much more difficult hole for them. What it is, it's yeah, 0:15:16.520 --> 0:15:19.920 it's and there's enough room. 0:15:19.440 --> 0:15:20.880 From the water to the green. 0:15:21.000 --> 0:15:23.760 So really starting sixteen seventeen eighteen, that could be that 0:15:23.760 --> 0:15:26.200 could be an electric finish in match play. 0:15:26.560 --> 0:15:30.080 Getting through that stretch one or two under pars is 0:15:30.280 --> 0:15:31.640 just unbelievable playing. 0:15:32.160 --> 0:15:35.360 It's it's interesting. You know, I was watching Nick Hardy today. 0:15:35.720 --> 0:15:38.640 He birdied, made a great birdie on sixteen, and then 0:15:38.640 --> 0:15:41.800 he he powered seventeen, and then he gets to eighteen 0:15:41.880 --> 0:15:44.840 and sure enough he gets caught on the downslope and 0:15:44.880 --> 0:15:45.680 he makes an eight. 0:15:46.080 --> 0:15:46.720 You know, it's like. 0:15:46.720 --> 0:15:50.120 That you thought he got through the tough part one under. Oh, 0:15:50.120 --> 0:15:51.760 he's going to finish two under. It's going to be 0:15:51.800 --> 0:15:53.880 a heck of a finish, ends up making an eight. 0:15:54.120 --> 0:15:56.200 I think that's one of the things with this golf 0:15:56.240 --> 0:15:58.840 course is that as soon as you lose your focus 0:15:58.960 --> 0:16:01.160 or get out of position and make a you know, 0:16:01.200 --> 0:16:04.200 an aggressive play from out of position, you bring in 0:16:04.480 --> 0:16:09.200 double triple, quadruple bogie, even on almost any hole out here, 0:16:09.240 --> 0:16:14.040 which is it? You know, that's what this leaderboard can 0:16:14.160 --> 0:16:17.640 change so rapidly as they look to go from now 0:16:17.760 --> 0:16:22.320 fifteen teams down to eighteen. So you know, as it stands, 0:16:23.040 --> 0:16:26.040 you know, Vanderbilts in the lead at eighteen under, and 0:16:26.120 --> 0:16:30.480 then you know there is some bunch up until I'd say, 0:16:30.880 --> 0:16:33.240 what do you say Florida State at twelve, which is 0:16:33.760 --> 0:16:36.920 they're in twelfth place at flour under, right, and all 0:16:37.000 --> 0:16:41.120 these teams are kind of fighting for this top eight 0:16:41.160 --> 0:16:44.440 position to make into match play. You know, who would 0:16:44.480 --> 0:16:48.760 you say of the teams currently out that you expect 0:16:48.800 --> 0:16:50.400 to get into this top eight. 0:16:50.600 --> 0:16:51.400 That's a tough question. 0:16:51.440 --> 0:16:54.920 I just wrote my column today two years ago at 0:16:54.960 --> 0:16:57.600 the Concession No teams from the top eight went into 0:16:57.640 --> 0:17:01.200 the top for no teams from nine to fifteen went 0:17:01.240 --> 0:17:02.000 into the top eight. 0:17:02.520 --> 0:17:04.159 But last year we had three teams. 0:17:04.720 --> 0:17:07.960 The difference last year from ninth place to fifteenth place 0:17:08.080 --> 0:17:10.280 was just nine shots. We're gonna see a little bit 0:17:10.320 --> 0:17:12.879 wider gap this year, probably more like fifteen shots from 0:17:12.880 --> 0:17:15.639 all the way down. But you know wherever, you know, 0:17:15.720 --> 0:17:18.320 if pepperdine and you see f for those final two teams, 0:17:18.320 --> 0:17:21.280 there's that's gonna be a tough task for them tomorrow. 0:17:22.240 --> 0:17:24.480 Oregon's definitely got the firepower. I'd say, you go all 0:17:24.520 --> 0:17:27.320 the way down to Oregon with a really good round, 0:17:27.920 --> 0:17:31.560 you know, but after the Florida State text LSU that, yeah, 0:17:31.560 --> 0:17:33.800 they could all jump up in there, all burned data, 0:17:33.840 --> 0:17:35.640 had a bad day to day. They've been playing really well, 0:17:37.320 --> 0:17:40.119 qualifying out of West Lafiette Regional Gate here, so you 0:17:40.160 --> 0:17:42.879 know that they can, especially like you said, if it's soft, 0:17:43.520 --> 0:17:45.280 if it continues to stay soft, but it should be 0:17:45.320 --> 0:17:47.640 drying up a little bit. But you know, it all 0:17:47.680 --> 0:17:49.760 takes us one good round from somebody. Somebody goes out 0:17:49.800 --> 0:17:51.880 and shoots you know, ten twelve under, they'll probably jump 0:17:51.920 --> 0:17:52.600 up the boarder a lot. 0:17:53.520 --> 0:17:57.760 So it's in terms of kind of who your favorite 0:17:57.760 --> 0:18:00.959 teams out here, like you know, like what which teams 0:18:00.960 --> 0:18:03.720 are you know, would you say you know if you. 0:18:03.680 --> 0:18:06.080