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Speaker 4: Ladies and gentlemen, welcome back to another edition of the

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Speaker 4: Frida Egg Podcast. We are here live at rich Harvis

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Speaker 4: Farms for the National Championships, and we are joined by

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Speaker 4: Lance Wrangler of Golf Week. Lance is, you know, kind

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Speaker 3: So Lance, welcome on.

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Speaker 1: Thanks for having me.

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Speaker 4: Eddie So first said, you know, I think give the

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Speaker 2: Well, wow, it's been a shoot. It's been maybe twenty

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Speaker 2: this is my eighteenth national championship. Basically, I coached college

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I bet you got all you got if

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Speaker 4: you went to a tour event, you'd be like a celebrity.

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Speaker 1: Well, I see.

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Speaker 2: The thing is, I've been to a few and I

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Speaker 1: Now we should we really need to be doing that again.

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Speaker 4: Who who's your favorite guy, whether they're in college golf

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Speaker 2: I would say Brian Harmon was one of the guys

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Speaker 3: You can go by one day, but not Ricky Barnes.

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Speaker 1: That don't look athletic. They're athletic looking kids, and they

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Speaker 1: He kind of fits that bill. He fits that bill

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Speaker 3: So you know, in today's today's a pivotal day.

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Speaker 3: You know, what are your big takeaways from the tournament

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's probably the best.

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Speaker 2: Sometimes in golf, unlike other sports, the golf course becomes

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Speaker 1: I think so far, I think the story has really

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Speaker 1: I still will say that.

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Speaker 2: I think what happened, and I could be a little

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Speaker 1: That you have in your hand.

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Speaker 2: I think the NCAA committee wisely aired on let's see

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Speaker 1: I mean, look at these scores. I mean, I mean

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Speaker 2: Honestly, Andy, I would have thought that there might only

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Speaker 4: But I mean the flags were in tough positions today.

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Speaker 1: It's the seventeenth hole. I mean, I I mean.

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Speaker 2: I could be crazy and I say this, but I wouldn't.

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Speaker 1: There's there's little room for air on that hole.

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Speaker 2: So, and I I think, you know, in match play,

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Speaker 4: I think that's one of the things with this golf

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Speaker 1: That's a tough question.

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Speaker 2: I just wrote my column today two years ago at

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Speaker 2: Oregon's definitely got the firepower. I'd say, you go all

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Speaker 4: So it's in terms of kind of who your favorite

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Speaker 2: Well, you're still it's tough, Andy. I mean, Vanderbilt is

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Speaker 1: I like Oklahoma. You know, v has been a quiet

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Speaker 2: UNLB and Oklahoma to make it into my top eight.

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Speaker 1: Probably should have won a title. So you know, they're

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Speaker 1: People can talk all along. I mean, let's talk about it.

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Speaker 2: If I have somebody out there following me around, Andy

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Speaker 1: I mean probably not. Yeah, I mean you know, so

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Speaker 2: don't put a lot of stock into home crowds in golf. Yeah,

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00:19:34,040 --> 00:19:37,960
Speaker 2: we put Northwestern. We talked about that last week. Look,

442
00:19:38,160 --> 00:19:40,200
Speaker 2: they didn't have big crowds out here. That the first

443
00:19:40,240 --> 00:19:41,840
Speaker 2: couple of days, they didn't have anybody watching.

444
00:19:41,880 --> 00:19:43,840
Speaker 1: There was nobody out here. It was forty degrees.

445
00:19:44,040 --> 00:19:46,560
Speaker 2: They played well because They're a good team and they

446
00:19:46,560 --> 00:19:49,600
Speaker 2: were familiar with the environment. And that's why Illinois the

447
00:19:49,600 --> 00:19:52,760
Speaker 2: same thing. They're a good team, they're playing well. They've

448
00:19:52,800 --> 00:19:55,800
Speaker 2: caught a high right now. I don't think that to

449
00:19:55,880 --> 00:19:58,520
Speaker 2: this point that the crowd has really given them that

450
00:19:58,600 --> 00:20:00,840
Speaker 2: much of an edge now in match. I think it

451
00:20:00,920 --> 00:20:03,960
Speaker 2: could because we've seen it in Ryder Cup situations when

452
00:20:03,960 --> 00:20:05,840
Speaker 2: you get a crowd going. I'll tell you what, I'm

453
00:20:05,880 --> 00:20:09,520
Speaker 2: really impressed with the Illinois crowd because of the way

454
00:20:09,560 --> 00:20:12,600
Speaker 2: that they're very golf knowledgeable. It seems like last year

455
00:20:12,600 --> 00:20:15,720
Speaker 2: in Oregon they didn't. They weren't very they.

456
00:20:15,560 --> 00:20:16,240
Speaker 1: Were very nice.

457
00:20:16,280 --> 00:20:20,760
Speaker 2: Like when when Texas and Illinois hit shots that were good,

458
00:20:21,000 --> 00:20:21,800
Speaker 2: they didn't clap.

459
00:20:22,040 --> 00:20:23,080
Speaker 1: There wasn't a lot of like.

460
00:20:23,720 --> 00:20:27,000
Speaker 2: But today I've seen the Illinois fans really cheer on

461
00:20:27,040 --> 00:20:27,679
Speaker 2: the other teams.

462
00:20:27,880 --> 00:20:28,200
Speaker 3: I think.

463
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Speaker 4: I mean, it has a lot to do with the

464
00:20:30,000 --> 00:20:32,680
Speaker 4: Illinois and Chicago being one of the great golf city.

465
00:20:32,760 --> 00:20:34,440
Speaker 3: True, you know, obviously like Chicago.

466
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Speaker 4: The game kind of started in Chicago for in America,

467
00:20:37,880 --> 00:20:39,639
Speaker 4: so I think you're you're in one of the golf

468
00:20:39,920 --> 00:20:42,000
Speaker 4: because of the of the states the.

469
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Speaker 2: Real quickly, just looking at the leader board, Oklahoma State

470
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Speaker 2: and Baylor and the sixth and who who the heck

471
00:20:47,200 --> 00:20:48,280
Speaker 2: would want to play those guys.

472
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Speaker 1: Oklahoma State, I mean.

473
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Speaker 3: They're they've got the best.

474
00:20:51,280 --> 00:20:54,600
Speaker 1: I mean, there's six shots out of lead and they're unbelievable.

475
00:20:54,080 --> 00:20:57,320
Speaker 3: And they were the best five started five rank wise.

476
00:20:57,440 --> 00:21:01,280
Speaker 2: And Baylor they I mean, they're I would not want

477
00:21:01,320 --> 00:21:03,320
Speaker 2: to be I would not want to be the three

478
00:21:03,400 --> 00:21:05,600
Speaker 2: or four or either two or three and have to

479
00:21:05,600 --> 00:21:06,920
Speaker 2: play Oklahoma.

480
00:21:06,440 --> 00:21:07,000
Speaker 1: State or Baylor.

481
00:21:07,440 --> 00:21:13,960
Speaker 4: Just you know, Virginia Jimmy Stanger or Stangers, He's I've

482
00:21:13,960 --> 00:21:15,280
Speaker 4: watched him play some poles.

483
00:21:15,359 --> 00:21:16,480
Speaker 3: He's really impressed me.

484
00:21:16,720 --> 00:21:18,639
Speaker 4: I don't know, he's got to be one of the

485
00:21:18,680 --> 00:21:20,560
Speaker 4: best ten players in college.

486
00:21:20,800 --> 00:21:24,520
Speaker 1: Jimmy said, yeah, he had a phenomenal fall. Derek Bard too.

487
00:21:24,680 --> 00:21:26,960
Speaker 2: They have two and they have a third. They have

488
00:21:27,040 --> 00:21:28,960
Speaker 2: a couple that they could they could get some things

489
00:21:29,000 --> 00:21:29,440
Speaker 2: done too.

490
00:21:30,440 --> 00:21:32,800
Speaker 3: So you know, they're they're they're a little light at

491
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Speaker 3: the back end.

492
00:21:34,000 --> 00:21:37,359
Speaker 4: I feel like that that's really where and obviously, you know,

493
00:21:37,480 --> 00:21:41,399
Speaker 4: like it's where the kind of separates the truly elite

494
00:21:41,400 --> 00:21:46,359
Speaker 4: teams like the Oklahoma States, the Southern Cols, the you know,

495
00:21:46,480 --> 00:21:49,719
Speaker 4: Vandy's are kind of almost like a clear echelon of

496
00:21:50,080 --> 00:21:50,920
Speaker 4: they've got five.

497
00:21:51,240 --> 00:21:53,760
Speaker 3: Really, there's no question marks in those lineups.

498
00:21:53,840 --> 00:21:54,840
Speaker 1: No, And then that's the thing.

499
00:21:54,840 --> 00:21:57,359
Speaker 2: I mean, you go, you keep going down and he

500
00:21:57,480 --> 00:21:59,360
Speaker 2: got Texas is good, they'll be good.

501
00:21:59,520 --> 00:22:00,840
Speaker 1: Four to State can play Oregon.

502
00:22:00,920 --> 00:22:03,680
Speaker 2: I mean there are It's like we've said all season long,

503
00:22:05,160 --> 00:22:07,120
Speaker 2: you can go about fourteen to fifteen deep, and we're

504
00:22:07,119 --> 00:22:09,359
Speaker 2: seeing we're seeing it this week, and there's gonna be

505
00:22:09,440 --> 00:22:11,359
Speaker 2: a couple of really good golf teams left out of

506
00:22:11,359 --> 00:22:14,359
Speaker 2: match play tomorrow. And I think this year's match play

507
00:22:14,400 --> 00:22:16,960
Speaker 2: could be if you get any one of those eight teams,

508
00:22:17,080 --> 00:22:18,719
Speaker 2: just like the last couple years, any one of those

509
00:22:18,720 --> 00:22:20,399
Speaker 2: eight teams can win, maybe even more so than what

510
00:22:20,400 --> 00:22:21,200
Speaker 2: we've seen in the past.

511
00:22:22,040 --> 00:22:25,199
Speaker 4: So in terms of kind of surprises, is there is

512
00:22:25,240 --> 00:22:27,359
Speaker 4: there anybody that's surprising you on this list?

513
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Speaker 3: Out side? I know you said Illinois, but outside of that.

514
00:22:31,400 --> 00:22:33,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, don't get me wrong, I'm not. It's

515
00:22:33,600 --> 00:22:36,480
Speaker 2: not like Illinois is a big seek. I mean, I

516
00:22:36,840 --> 00:22:38,639
Speaker 2: just didn't expect them to play as well as I

517
00:22:38,640 --> 00:22:40,240
Speaker 2: thought they would be fighting more to get into that

518
00:22:40,240 --> 00:22:41,600
Speaker 2: top eight, and they still got a round to go.

519
00:22:42,640 --> 00:22:45,199
Speaker 2: But I mean, the biggest surprise to me, really is

520
00:22:45,240 --> 00:22:48,040
Speaker 2: probably Can't State. I thought Kn't State would not and

521
00:22:48,119 --> 00:22:50,440
Speaker 2: I didn't. I did pick them to make it into

522
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Speaker 2: the top eight.

523
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Speaker 1: It's not a use. I just thought they'd be a

524
00:22:54,560 --> 00:22:58,920
Speaker 1: little bit more in Yeah. But other than that, no,

525
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Speaker 1: I mean there's there's not a lot of surprises.

526
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Speaker 3: I'll tell you what I mean. Kent State.

527
00:23:04,280 --> 00:23:08,200
Speaker 4: I picked them as one of my sleepers too, and

528
00:23:08,480 --> 00:23:11,600
Speaker 4: I you know, I getting to see that team. You know,

529
00:23:11,680 --> 00:23:14,080
Speaker 4: you think Ken State and most people are probably going

530
00:23:14,160 --> 00:23:17,159
Speaker 4: to say, oh, it's small school, right, this is a

531
00:23:17,359 --> 00:23:20,879
Speaker 4: legitimate school, like in those kids when you talk about

532
00:23:21,359 --> 00:23:24,240
Speaker 4: seeing kids that don't look like golfers. I don't know

533
00:23:24,280 --> 00:23:26,760
Speaker 4: if there's a school a team that typifies them more

534
00:23:26,800 --> 00:23:28,879
Speaker 4: and they all those kids just smash it.

535
00:23:29,200 --> 00:23:29,760
Speaker 1: Yeah.

536
00:23:29,800 --> 00:23:32,160
Speaker 2: And the thing about Kent State is this is one

537
00:23:32,200 --> 00:23:35,399
Speaker 2: of her pages better teams that he's had. Maybe I

538
00:23:35,400 --> 00:23:37,040
Speaker 2: don't want to say ever, I'd have to go to

539
00:23:37,080 --> 00:23:38,679
Speaker 2: do some research on that, but this is definitely one

540
00:23:38,680 --> 00:23:40,600
Speaker 2: of his better teams. So I'm a little surprised on

541
00:23:40,640 --> 00:23:42,240
Speaker 2: that a lot of people are going to talk about

542
00:23:42,280 --> 00:23:45,080
Speaker 2: Stanford missing. But I'll tell you what, Andy, you go

543
00:23:45,119 --> 00:23:48,320
Speaker 2: look at the results. Stanford's not like they've been real

544
00:23:48,400 --> 00:23:51,679
Speaker 2: good in the postseason here, you know, they so you know,

545
00:23:51,720 --> 00:23:53,960
Speaker 2: you just let the results speak from self. They it's

546
00:23:53,960 --> 00:23:58,160
Speaker 2: a program that that expects, has high expectations, and they've

547
00:23:58,200 --> 00:23:59,720
Speaker 2: they've missed a few times here lately.

548
00:24:00,080 --> 00:24:03,000
Speaker 4: It seems like all year long kind of and it

549
00:24:03,040 --> 00:24:06,119
Speaker 4: goes this whole storyline is like the back half of

550
00:24:06,119 --> 00:24:09,120
Speaker 4: that lineup all year was when they were on, they

551
00:24:09,119 --> 00:24:11,560
Speaker 4: were good when they weren't, you know, And that's where

552
00:24:12,040 --> 00:24:15,480
Speaker 4: you know, the interesting thing about you know, college golf,

553
00:24:15,520 --> 00:24:17,840
Speaker 4: and you know, when we look at like a bigger

554
00:24:18,080 --> 00:24:22,080
Speaker 4: landscape view is like you know, putting together team championships,

555
00:24:22,080 --> 00:24:23,960
Speaker 4: like it's really hard to get five.

556
00:24:23,920 --> 00:24:26,440
Speaker 3: Four guys playing well all at once.

557
00:24:26,960 --> 00:24:29,919
Speaker 4: And I think, you know, in terms of this for

558
00:24:29,960 --> 00:24:33,120
Speaker 4: the Olympics, like why didn't this happen for the Olympics?

559
00:24:33,280 --> 00:24:38,159
Speaker 2: That's major, major, colossal with In fact, when I first

560
00:24:38,560 --> 00:24:42,280
Speaker 2: heard about the format for the Olympics, I I didn't

561
00:24:42,280 --> 00:24:44,560
Speaker 2: believe it. I mean, I'm like and I yeah, I

562
00:24:44,760 --> 00:24:47,280
Speaker 2: don't know. The format for the Olympics was bad. I

563
00:24:47,280 --> 00:24:50,760
Speaker 2: mean team golf is yeah, I don't even know, it's

564
00:24:50,800 --> 00:24:52,280
Speaker 2: just bad. I don't even know what else to say

565
00:24:52,320 --> 00:24:55,240
Speaker 2: about that. I can't believe that they they didn't go

566
00:24:55,440 --> 00:24:58,359
Speaker 2: more of that route, honestly. Yeah, And it's not like

567
00:24:58,400 --> 00:25:00,000
Speaker 2: they didn't have any knowledge of it. I mean they

568
00:25:00,119 --> 00:25:03,040
Speaker 2: seen the Ryder Cup. They've seen you know, how team

569
00:25:03,080 --> 00:25:05,520
Speaker 2: golf works in certain situations, and I think in an

570
00:25:05,560 --> 00:25:07,800
Speaker 2: Olympic setting, team golf would have been fantastic.

571
00:25:08,160 --> 00:25:11,600
Speaker 4: Do you think there could be ever potential and for

572
00:25:12,359 --> 00:25:16,160
Speaker 4: an alumni like event for professionals like this.

573
00:25:16,960 --> 00:25:17,480
Speaker 1: I think.

574
00:25:20,560 --> 00:25:25,200
Speaker 2: There's been a lot of tinkering around with with some things, trying.

575
00:25:24,880 --> 00:25:27,080
Speaker 1: To make something happen with.

576
00:25:27,040 --> 00:25:32,640
Speaker 2: Professionals and current players. But you know, a few years ago,

577
00:25:33,040 --> 00:25:35,800
Speaker 2: Eric Sodastruman myself, Eric was worked at Golf Week. He's

578
00:25:35,840 --> 00:25:39,359
Speaker 2: now works for Titleists. We talked about doing a We

579
00:25:39,359 --> 00:25:41,520
Speaker 2: were going to write a column and do a big

580
00:25:41,560 --> 00:25:44,640
Speaker 2: thing and talk about a professional golf league, and we

581
00:25:44,640 --> 00:25:46,679
Speaker 2: were going to come up with, you know, ten to

582
00:25:46,720 --> 00:25:48,720
Speaker 2: twelve cities, and we were gonna come up with nicknames

583
00:25:48,720 --> 00:25:51,159
Speaker 2: and they would have it actually have a draft, actually

584
00:25:51,160 --> 00:25:58,040
Speaker 2: have a draft and have just make this mock PGA

585
00:25:58,240 --> 00:26:00,720
Speaker 2: league with cities and confis and stuff.

586
00:26:00,760 --> 00:26:02,720
Speaker 1: So that would be cool. Yeah. Do I think it'll

587
00:26:02,920 --> 00:26:05,560
Speaker 1: maybe one off of it? I don't see it. Honestly,

588
00:26:05,600 --> 00:26:08,479
Speaker 1: it's just too you can't get there's too much money involved.

589
00:26:08,480 --> 00:26:10,639
Speaker 2: There's these guys and their agents and their teams and

590
00:26:10,840 --> 00:26:15,159
Speaker 2: you know, their their schedules. Probably not unless it's like

591
00:26:15,160 --> 00:26:19,040
Speaker 2: a hashtag spring Break twenty nineteen and six guys just

592
00:26:19,040 --> 00:26:19,760
Speaker 2: go goof around.

593
00:26:19,920 --> 00:26:21,840
Speaker 4: I don't ever see any official I think it would

594
00:26:21,880 --> 00:26:26,360
Speaker 4: be cool to see, I you know, being this format

595
00:26:26,400 --> 00:26:28,879
Speaker 4: I think is really great because you know, what you

596
00:26:28,960 --> 00:26:32,679
Speaker 4: see is is that you know, like you can have

597
00:26:32,720 --> 00:26:36,199
Speaker 4: an individual lighting it up, but like if if one

598
00:26:36,240 --> 00:26:38,840
Speaker 4: of his teammates who was a counting score makes an eight,

599
00:26:38,840 --> 00:26:42,600
Speaker 4: all So's, it completely changes the landscape of the team.

600
00:26:42,840 --> 00:26:46,600
Speaker 4: It's a very very cool event. So so coverage is

601
00:26:46,640 --> 00:26:51,639
Speaker 4: on tomorrow. You know, Sam, my first time college golf viewer,

602
00:26:52,080 --> 00:26:55,040
Speaker 4: tuneing in. What should I be kind of watching for?

603
00:26:55,200 --> 00:26:57,359
Speaker 4: What should I you know, what what are some basic

604
00:26:57,400 --> 00:26:58,600
Speaker 4: things I should know tomorrow?

605
00:26:58,840 --> 00:27:01,520
Speaker 2: Well, just just I mean what you're watching for. What's

606
00:27:01,560 --> 00:27:03,280
Speaker 2: exciting about is what you just hit on. It's just

607
00:27:03,320 --> 00:27:03,920
Speaker 2: a team.

608
00:27:03,720 --> 00:27:04,440
Speaker 1: Aspect of college.

609
00:27:04,440 --> 00:27:07,800
Speaker 2: You know, so many people view golf as an individual sport,

610
00:27:07,880 --> 00:27:10,560
Speaker 2: and in this setting you'll see a lot of kids

611
00:27:10,640 --> 00:27:13,879
Speaker 2: looking back at the teammates, fist pumping, coaches, you know,

612
00:27:13,960 --> 00:27:16,520
Speaker 2: running back and forth, you know, helping, giving information on

613
00:27:16,560 --> 00:27:18,760
Speaker 2: bas based on what they saw from the previous player

614
00:27:18,800 --> 00:27:22,080
Speaker 2: that played the whole just just.

615
00:27:21,760 --> 00:27:23,160
Speaker 1: Just the team aspects.

616
00:27:23,200 --> 00:27:25,440
Speaker 2: Probably what would be the most different if you're used

617
00:27:25,480 --> 00:27:27,920
Speaker 2: to watching a PJ Tour event, it's it's the it's

618
00:27:27,960 --> 00:27:30,000
Speaker 2: the way that they'll interact and the way they're playing

619
00:27:30,160 --> 00:27:32,199
Speaker 2: for their team. And you don't see that in an

620
00:27:32,280 --> 00:27:34,960
Speaker 2: individual golf when you're watching a PJ Tour event.

621
00:27:35,440 --> 00:27:38,800
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I think that's a that's a good one.

622
00:27:38,920 --> 00:27:41,840
Speaker 4: I mean, it's it's infectious. I think if if your

623
00:27:41,840 --> 00:27:43,920
Speaker 4: school is anywhere near the hunt, you got it. It's

624
00:27:43,920 --> 00:27:46,280
Speaker 4: a must tune in. I think that's that's the cool

625
00:27:46,320 --> 00:27:48,800
Speaker 4: thing and brings a lot of casual into it.

626
00:27:50,040 --> 00:27:51,760
Speaker 3: So tell me, if if you.

627
00:27:51,920 --> 00:27:55,359
Speaker 4: Could make one change to to college golf in general,

628
00:27:55,440 --> 00:27:56,160
Speaker 4: what would it be.

629
00:27:57,680 --> 00:27:59,240
Speaker 1: That's a good question. There's a lot.

630
00:27:59,280 --> 00:28:03,080
Speaker 2: I mean that question was probably really easier, uh several

631
00:28:03,160 --> 00:28:03,800
Speaker 2: years ago.

632
00:28:03,640 --> 00:28:05,960
Speaker 1: Before we started tinkering with the formats and doing things.

633
00:28:06,040 --> 00:28:08,480
Speaker 2: But if there if I was commissioner for a day,

634
00:28:08,520 --> 00:28:11,760
Speaker 2: I would The thing I would change immediately was I

635
00:28:11,760 --> 00:28:14,200
Speaker 2: would I would? I would come up with some sort

636
00:28:14,240 --> 00:28:18,320
Speaker 2: of format. There has to be. We have to standardize

637
00:28:18,320 --> 00:28:19,000
Speaker 2: college golf.

638
00:28:19,000 --> 00:28:19,720
Speaker 1: We can't.

639
00:28:21,400 --> 00:28:26,120
Speaker 2: Allow all these different formats. I mean, when you watch

640
00:28:26,119 --> 00:28:28,119
Speaker 2: a college football game, you know what it's gonna be.

641
00:28:28,280 --> 00:28:31,280
Speaker 2: It's gonna be four quarters, fifteen minute, four quarters, that's

642
00:28:31,320 --> 00:28:33,840
Speaker 2: what it's gonna be. When you watch a college basketball game,

643
00:28:33,840 --> 00:28:35,800
Speaker 2: you know it's gonna be two twenty minute halfs. I'm

644
00:28:35,840 --> 00:28:38,080
Speaker 2: sure when there's a baseball our softball game seven innies,

645
00:28:38,160 --> 00:28:41,800
Speaker 2: nine innings, there there is, there's standardized formats to it,

646
00:28:41,920 --> 00:28:43,959
Speaker 2: and you don't change the way it's scored. It's always

647
00:28:44,200 --> 00:28:46,320
Speaker 2: you know, a three pointers, always three points, a touchdowns,

648
00:28:46,320 --> 00:28:49,160
Speaker 2: always six in an extra point. In college golf, you

649
00:28:49,280 --> 00:28:52,280
Speaker 2: might see a thirty six hole event. You might see

650
00:28:52,280 --> 00:28:54,760
Speaker 2: an event where there's six players count five. You might

651
00:28:54,760 --> 00:28:58,120
Speaker 2: see an event where all five players play together instead

652
00:28:58,120 --> 00:29:02,640
Speaker 2: of and it's just and while while each one of

653
00:29:02,680 --> 00:29:04,880
Speaker 2: those events, they're doing the same thing in that event,

654
00:29:05,320 --> 00:29:10,320
Speaker 2: but that has direct conflict with everything else that's going on.

655
00:29:10,440 --> 00:29:12,719
Speaker 2: For example, when California had their tremendous year a few

656
00:29:12,760 --> 00:29:17,280
Speaker 2: years ago, I think they won two, maybe three, but

657
00:29:17,400 --> 00:29:21,040
Speaker 2: definitely two six count five events. Well, they had a

658
00:29:21,240 --> 00:29:23,280
Speaker 2: they have a better six player than a lot of players.

659
00:29:23,560 --> 00:29:26,400
Speaker 2: So when you add that element to it, that's like saying,

660
00:29:26,720 --> 00:29:29,280
Speaker 2: you know, we're not What if you played a basketball

661
00:29:29,280 --> 00:29:31,240
Speaker 2: game it took the three pointer away.

662
00:29:30,960 --> 00:29:36,480
Speaker 1: You'd have some different winners. Both you would have, you

663
00:29:36,520 --> 00:29:37,600
Speaker 1: would have some different winners.

664
00:29:37,600 --> 00:29:40,520
Speaker 2: So college golf, it's when you think about it, it's crazy,

665
00:29:40,760 --> 00:29:43,240
Speaker 2: and it's crazy that you'll count an eighteen hole event

666
00:29:43,720 --> 00:29:46,240
Speaker 2: when that would that's like playing a quarter and a

667
00:29:46,280 --> 00:29:49,640
Speaker 2: half in football. It's just it's ludicrous that it counts

668
00:29:49,640 --> 00:29:52,239
Speaker 2: and it goes into the system because we all know

669
00:29:52,280 --> 00:29:55,240
Speaker 2: that in eighteen holes, I might. I might one day,

670
00:29:55,240 --> 00:29:56,960
Speaker 2: in eighteen holes be able to beat you Andy.

671
00:29:57,240 --> 00:29:59,120
Speaker 1: Doubtful, but I might.

672
00:29:59,200 --> 00:30:01,400
Speaker 2: You could get squarely and I could go out there

673
00:30:01,440 --> 00:30:04,320
Speaker 2: and see I can shoot a seventy eight maybe, and

674
00:30:04,440 --> 00:30:06,280
Speaker 2: you could give squarely and I could beat you. But

675
00:30:06,400 --> 00:30:08,640
Speaker 2: we know that if you and I played fifty four holes,

676
00:30:08,920 --> 00:30:11,120
Speaker 2: I'm not beating you. I'm just not doing it. That's

677
00:30:11,160 --> 00:30:13,400
Speaker 2: just and that's what needs it. That's that's a big issue.

678
00:30:13,440 --> 00:30:15,000
Speaker 2: I think in Ta Joe and I don't think they

679
00:30:15,160 --> 00:30:18,160
Speaker 2: realize how big of an issue it is deeply until

680
00:30:18,320 --> 00:30:22,440
Speaker 2: because there's all of a sudden there's getting in regionals

681
00:30:22,680 --> 00:30:25,160
Speaker 2: because you have such a fine line between teams that

682
00:30:25,200 --> 00:30:27,280
Speaker 2: are ranked seventy fifth and teams that are ranked fiftieth,

683
00:30:27,520 --> 00:30:29,760
Speaker 2: and some of that squirrely stuff in there that you know,

684
00:30:30,120 --> 00:30:32,840
Speaker 2: just stand and it's easy to standardize the format, say

685
00:30:33,240 --> 00:30:36,560
Speaker 2: thirty minimum of thirty six holes to be ranked, to

686
00:30:36,640 --> 00:30:39,200
Speaker 2: be a ranked event, maximum of fifty four holes, and

687
00:30:39,280 --> 00:30:41,440
Speaker 2: everything has to be five count four everything.

688
00:30:41,480 --> 00:30:44,480
Speaker 1: What about play, well, I don't they shouldn't count.

689
00:30:44,720 --> 00:30:47,320
Speaker 2: Actually, I mean this is fun and exciting and everything

690
00:30:47,440 --> 00:30:50,520
Speaker 2: and whatever, but we all know the number one team,

691
00:30:50,640 --> 00:30:53,200
Speaker 2: number one seed, whoever's won the stroke play has never

692
00:30:53,360 --> 00:30:56,560
Speaker 2: won and in all the time since two thousand and nine,

693
00:30:56,560 --> 00:30:58,040
Speaker 2: and now the women again, it didn't happen.

694
00:30:58,080 --> 00:31:00,640
Speaker 1: North Northwestern was number one seed. They didn't win.

695
00:31:00,880 --> 00:31:03,640
Speaker 2: That being said, Arizona State was the number one team

696
00:31:03,680 --> 00:31:05,920
Speaker 2: in the country in the Golf League rankings. They weren't

697
00:31:05,960 --> 00:31:07,719
Speaker 2: golf staff, but they weren't golf weak and they did win.

698
00:31:07,920 --> 00:31:09,640
Speaker 2: And we have seen the number one team win in

699
00:31:09,760 --> 00:31:12,680
Speaker 2: men's golf and Texas once I think Alabama did it once,

700
00:31:12,880 --> 00:31:14,320
Speaker 2: but they didn't win the stroke play that year.

701
00:31:14,520 --> 00:31:16,280
Speaker 3: So do you think there should be a stroke play

702
00:31:16,400 --> 00:31:18,160
Speaker 3: champions Yeah, because.

703
00:31:19,440 --> 00:31:22,320
Speaker 1: There is, there is what happens tomorrow, It really is.

704
00:31:22,480 --> 00:31:24,880
Speaker 1: I mean I think there's no you know, there's no trophy.

705
00:31:25,080 --> 00:31:27,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, because like I'm an aline I fan. I mean

706
00:31:27,480 --> 00:31:28,800
Speaker 3: I went to Illinois.

707
00:31:28,880 --> 00:31:32,240
Speaker 4: Yeah, and you know we've won the individual, but we

708
00:31:32,320 --> 00:31:34,960
Speaker 4: haven't won the team. And to me, it's like you

709
00:31:35,440 --> 00:31:38,720
Speaker 4: we we won the stroke. Yeah, like that is every

710
00:31:38,800 --> 00:31:42,280
Speaker 4: shot count. Yeah, that is the real championship to a

711
00:31:42,360 --> 00:31:43,000
Speaker 4: certain extent.

712
00:31:43,160 --> 00:31:46,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, yeah it should. I mean i'd also,

713
00:31:46,320 --> 00:31:48,760
Speaker 1: I mean I liked I like watching the match play.

714
00:31:48,760 --> 00:31:51,680
Speaker 1: I like the headhead. I mean i'd like, I'd like,

715
00:31:51,840 --> 00:31:53,760
Speaker 1: why not make all of college golf match play? Just

716
00:31:53,840 --> 00:31:55,520
Speaker 1: do away with stroke play? It never happened.

717
00:31:55,640 --> 00:31:57,880
Speaker 3: That's the way they do it in England.

718
00:31:58,000 --> 00:32:00,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, just do away with it completely. Had think about

719
00:32:00,520 --> 00:32:01,680
Speaker 1: the schedules, it'd be so cool.

720
00:32:01,720 --> 00:32:03,600
Speaker 2: You know you're gonna I've already got to figured out

721
00:32:03,600 --> 00:32:05,840
Speaker 2: I need to write this column this summer. But you know,

722
00:32:06,000 --> 00:32:08,200
Speaker 2: instead of having you know, say, say you got a

723
00:32:08,240 --> 00:32:10,840
Speaker 2: tournament like Southern Highlands out in Vegas. So instead of

724
00:32:10,840 --> 00:32:13,680
Speaker 2: inviting fifteen teams and you only invite six and you

725
00:32:13,800 --> 00:32:17,400
Speaker 2: play each team plays two matches a day. Within the

726
00:32:17,560 --> 00:32:19,520
Speaker 2: last day, they play one match. So at the end

727
00:32:19,560 --> 00:32:21,800
Speaker 2: of the tournament, you've played five head to heads. So

728
00:32:22,200 --> 00:32:23,760
Speaker 2: and it's a round robin deal. So if you go

729
00:32:23,880 --> 00:32:26,479
Speaker 2: five and oh, you've won the tournament. And now now

730
00:32:26,520 --> 00:32:29,080
Speaker 2: the standings and the rankings you now have, you know

731
00:32:29,360 --> 00:32:31,760
Speaker 2: you might have you might have Vanderbilt ranked number one

732
00:32:31,800 --> 00:32:34,600
Speaker 2: in the country with a record of twenty seven and six. Yeah,

733
00:32:34,880 --> 00:32:37,000
Speaker 2: that's cool, it is and that would be neat and

734
00:32:37,200 --> 00:32:39,760
Speaker 2: every match, and it would change the dynamics of college

735
00:32:39,800 --> 00:32:42,680
Speaker 2: Go if you would have teams. Now, now you get

736
00:32:42,720 --> 00:32:45,320
Speaker 2: that team like Illinois State or Bradley in the Missouri

737
00:32:45,440 --> 00:32:48,920
Speaker 2: Valley and they go in and play Vanderbilt on a weekend,

738
00:32:48,960 --> 00:32:50,160
Speaker 2: or Georgia and they get a win.

739
00:32:50,320 --> 00:32:54,000
Speaker 1: I mean, now you you know, it's the great equalizer.

740
00:32:55,480 --> 00:32:56,800
Speaker 1: It'd be cool. It'd be really cool.

741
00:32:56,880 --> 00:32:58,800
Speaker 3: It would like basketball.

742
00:32:58,880 --> 00:32:59,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's absolutely.

743
00:32:59,960 --> 00:33:02,480
Speaker 2: And then think about a sixty four team tournament, you know,

744
00:33:02,600 --> 00:33:04,640
Speaker 2: he bring you know, you have your regionals, if you

745
00:33:04,720 --> 00:33:07,680
Speaker 2: have four teams go to I mean we've tinkered around

746
00:33:07,680 --> 00:33:09,520
Speaker 2: with it before, but you know, basically have four regional

747
00:33:09,600 --> 00:33:12,160
Speaker 2: side sixteen teams there and say the top four from

748
00:33:12,200 --> 00:33:14,560
Speaker 2: the regional advances to the National Championship where now you

749
00:33:14,680 --> 00:33:17,720
Speaker 2: have sixteen teams, so it's sweet sixteen instead of just

750
00:33:17,760 --> 00:33:18,600
Speaker 2: bringing four teams in.

751
00:33:18,720 --> 00:33:21,400
Speaker 4: And it'd be cool, it'd be really neat, it'd be interesting.

752
00:33:21,560 --> 00:33:25,640
Speaker 4: It's a that's an interesting idea. I love mash play

753
00:33:25,760 --> 00:33:28,400
Speaker 4: and it would actually change the dynamic though of how

754
00:33:28,520 --> 00:33:31,120
Speaker 4: these kids would play. Yes, because you'd get a lot

755
00:33:31,160 --> 00:33:32,200
Speaker 4: more aggressive play.

756
00:33:32,920 --> 00:33:35,600
Speaker 2: And what it would do is I honestly think it

757
00:33:35,640 --> 00:33:38,040
Speaker 2: would broaden the fan base. It would broaden it would

758
00:33:38,080 --> 00:33:41,719
Speaker 2: make the sport more popular on the campus. Yeah, because

759
00:33:42,080 --> 00:33:46,640
Speaker 2: when when you know, Auburn goes and plays at the

760
00:33:46,680 --> 00:33:49,160
Speaker 2: Carpet Capital. I'm just using this hypothetically, and they go

761
00:33:49,240 --> 00:33:51,440
Speaker 2: down there and it's fifteen good teams and.

762
00:33:51,560 --> 00:33:52,360
Speaker 1: They finish eighth.

763
00:33:52,600 --> 00:33:54,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, they played all right, they've had a good finish

764
00:33:54,320 --> 00:33:55,560
Speaker 2: it beat they might have beat a couple of top

765
00:33:55,600 --> 00:33:56,080
Speaker 2: ten teams.

766
00:33:56,320 --> 00:33:58,520
Speaker 1: They come home. Nobody cares. Yeah, oh you guys, finish

767
00:33:58,600 --> 00:34:00,520
Speaker 1: eighth doesn't mean thing. Nobody talks about it.

768
00:34:00,720 --> 00:34:02,760
Speaker 3: It's not like, hey, we beat the top team in

769
00:34:02,800 --> 00:34:03,160
Speaker 3: the country.

770
00:34:03,200 --> 00:34:04,880
Speaker 2: Now they go in there and they play match play

771
00:34:04,960 --> 00:34:08,239
Speaker 2: and they beat Georgia Tech or Georgia or whoever you know,

772
00:34:08,440 --> 00:34:08,920
Speaker 2: U c l A.

773
00:34:09,360 --> 00:34:11,120
Speaker 1: They come home, you just had a great weekend.

774
00:34:11,239 --> 00:34:12,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean you'd beat U C.

775
00:34:12,360 --> 00:34:14,160
Speaker 1: L A. And they were you know, wow, you beat you.

776
00:34:14,280 --> 00:34:17,480
Speaker 1: You know, it's different. So there's the common fan can

777
00:34:17,560 --> 00:34:18,600
Speaker 1: identify with it better.

778
00:34:18,840 --> 00:34:21,480
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's it. I never thought of that. I'm not

779
00:34:21,600 --> 00:34:23,919
Speaker 4: the common fan that I don't think about these things.

780
00:34:24,080 --> 00:34:26,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, because because you follow it anywhere exactly.

781
00:34:27,120 --> 00:34:30,320
Speaker 4: So one idea I had, you know, something that I

782
00:34:30,400 --> 00:34:32,920
Speaker 4: always wonder about is like, you know these regionals, like

783
00:34:33,360 --> 00:34:35,880
Speaker 4: you get teams, you got teams that are some of

784
00:34:35,960 --> 00:34:38,040
Speaker 4: the best teams in the country that aren't here this

785
00:34:38,200 --> 00:34:40,719
Speaker 4: week because they had a bad week at regional. Do

786
00:34:40,840 --> 00:34:43,640
Speaker 4: you think that there should be any place for auto

787
00:34:43,719 --> 00:34:48,239
Speaker 4: bids similar to similar to the NCAA tournament where you know,

788
00:34:48,360 --> 00:34:51,839
Speaker 4: if I'm if I just say Florida, for example, top

789
00:34:51,880 --> 00:34:54,440
Speaker 4: five team all year, had you know some of the

790
00:34:54,480 --> 00:34:56,880
Speaker 4: biggest wins that they aren't here even though they have

791
00:34:57,000 --> 00:34:58,360
Speaker 4: some of the best players in the country.

792
00:34:58,520 --> 00:35:01,800
Speaker 2: I don't think with college With the NCAA basketball tournament,

793
00:35:01,800 --> 00:35:03,200
Speaker 2: if you're the one seed, you have to play the

794
00:35:03,200 --> 00:35:05,480
Speaker 2: sixteen seed in the first round. And even though the

795
00:35:05,560 --> 00:35:08,239
Speaker 2: number one seeds never lost in basketball, they still have

796
00:35:08,320 --> 00:35:10,600
Speaker 2: to win to get here. But the two have fifteen

797
00:35:10,680 --> 00:35:13,000
Speaker 2: as and they've lost to the eight nine team in

798
00:35:13,080 --> 00:35:13,640
Speaker 2: the next round.

799
00:35:13,719 --> 00:35:14,520
Speaker 1: So I don't think this.

800
00:35:14,719 --> 00:35:16,680
Speaker 2: Once the tournament starts, it's the tournament. So no, I

801
00:35:16,719 --> 00:35:18,480
Speaker 2: don't think you should. I mean, I don't think Aby

802
00:35:18,520 --> 00:35:20,680
Speaker 2: should get a free pass out of regional to hear No,

803
00:35:21,160 --> 00:35:22,960
Speaker 2: I wouldn't agree with. I wouldn't want to see that.

804
00:35:23,560 --> 00:35:27,239
Speaker 4: So to switch gears a little bit, I'm curious with

805
00:35:27,719 --> 00:35:31,640
Speaker 4: you know, who's been your the most surprising guy that

806
00:35:31,800 --> 00:35:34,440
Speaker 4: you've covered that hasn't made it to tour yet.

807
00:35:37,520 --> 00:35:40,240
Speaker 2: That we we actually talked about that this week with someone.

808
00:35:42,360 --> 00:35:44,560
Speaker 2: So the biggest, the biggest name and I actually get

809
00:35:44,560 --> 00:35:47,240
Speaker 2: answer to this. The biggest name player that I'm surprised

810
00:35:47,280 --> 00:35:49,400
Speaker 2: that we never saw get out on tour and win

811
00:35:49,520 --> 00:35:51,880
Speaker 2: is Matt Giles from southern California. I know, if you

812
00:35:51,920 --> 00:35:55,360
Speaker 2: remember Matt, he's actually from New Zealand. The kid was

813
00:35:55,560 --> 00:35:57,799
Speaker 2: really good amateur player in college play. I don't even

814
00:35:57,800 --> 00:35:59,400
Speaker 2: know what he's doing now. I don't even if he's

815
00:35:59,400 --> 00:36:01,520
Speaker 2: still playing golf. I haven't seen his name forever. That's

816
00:36:01,560 --> 00:36:04,439
Speaker 2: probably the one kid that never got out on tour

817
00:36:06,000 --> 00:36:08,840
Speaker 2: that that was probably the most surprising because I just

818
00:36:08,880 --> 00:36:10,680
Speaker 2: thought he was you know, and he was part of

819
00:36:10,760 --> 00:36:14,640
Speaker 2: that USC team in two thousand and nine that lost

820
00:36:14,680 --> 00:36:15,800
Speaker 2: to Michigan at Inverness.

821
00:36:16,239 --> 00:36:16,960
Speaker 1: See that's another thing.

822
00:36:17,000 --> 00:36:19,600
Speaker 2: I just said that, right, two thousand and nine team

823
00:36:19,719 --> 00:36:21,320
Speaker 2: that lost to Michigan Inverness.

824
00:36:21,520 --> 00:36:24,120
Speaker 1: I wouldn't have remembered anything if it was match stroke play.

825
00:36:24,840 --> 00:36:27,600
Speaker 1: But match play. I went to the championship from two

826
00:36:27,640 --> 00:36:31,239
Speaker 1: thousand to two thousand and eight. H I remember.

827
00:36:31,280 --> 00:36:34,120
Speaker 2: Oklahoma State winning at sun River. I don't remember anything

828
00:36:34,160 --> 00:36:36,600
Speaker 2: about it except them standing there for the picture, honestly.

829
00:36:36,680 --> 00:36:40,319
Speaker 2: Jonathan Moore, I remember Clemson winning at still Water.

830
00:36:41,960 --> 00:36:42,200
Speaker 1: Yeah.

831
00:36:42,360 --> 00:36:45,839
Speaker 2: Yeah, but I don't remember things about the tournament. Now

832
00:36:45,920 --> 00:36:47,839
Speaker 2: that match play is going on, I remember all kinds

833
00:36:47,880 --> 00:36:52,360
Speaker 2: of things, shots, people running to seem mean you remembers,

834
00:36:52,600 --> 00:36:54,000
Speaker 2: and that's that's the thing. So I go back to

835
00:36:54,040 --> 00:36:56,319
Speaker 2: my thing again, match play all year long.

836
00:36:57,239 --> 00:37:00,480
Speaker 4: It's yeah, I mean it would It would make just

837
00:37:00,640 --> 00:37:03,040
Speaker 4: the week to week thing way more exciting.

838
00:37:03,120 --> 00:37:03,319
Speaker 1: Yeah.

839
00:37:03,680 --> 00:37:06,520
Speaker 4: Is so you'd have just eighteen hole matches. So over

840
00:37:06,560 --> 00:37:08,600
Speaker 4: a weekend, you'd play three eighteen hole matches.

841
00:37:08,800 --> 00:37:10,680
Speaker 2: Actually you could play, you could you could play, you

842
00:37:10,719 --> 00:37:13,239
Speaker 2: could maybe play six. You can maybe play six. It

843
00:37:13,239 --> 00:37:15,480
Speaker 2: would be two eighty very tiring, it would be.

844
00:37:15,760 --> 00:37:17,560
Speaker 1: But what look at this week? Yeah, you know, but

845
00:37:17,680 --> 00:37:17,960
Speaker 1: you could.

846
00:37:18,040 --> 00:37:20,359
Speaker 2: But you could do under the current format, you could

847
00:37:20,360 --> 00:37:23,880
Speaker 2: play eighteen. You could play thirty six, thirty six, eighteen.

848
00:37:25,400 --> 00:37:27,040
Speaker 1: But you can do it. I mean it could, It

849
00:37:27,080 --> 00:37:27,600
Speaker 1: could be done.

850
00:37:27,960 --> 00:37:30,200
Speaker 3: So you know, we got a couple.

851
00:37:30,360 --> 00:37:32,839
Speaker 4: We'll do one more question and we'll get We'll get

852
00:37:32,920 --> 00:37:38,439
Speaker 4: gay here on overrated underrated. First first question, last question

853
00:37:38,680 --> 00:37:41,600
Speaker 4: is you know what's your favorite whether it be amateur

854
00:37:41,840 --> 00:37:43,040
Speaker 4: or college event of the year.

855
00:37:43,200 --> 00:37:44,200
Speaker 3: What's your favorite one.

856
00:37:45,760 --> 00:37:46,279
Speaker 1: Favorite event?

857
00:37:46,400 --> 00:37:48,719
Speaker 2: Well, obviously this this is probably the favorite event because

858
00:37:48,760 --> 00:37:52,279
Speaker 2: this is the super Bowl. Yeah, I let's see, I

859
00:37:52,360 --> 00:37:57,360
Speaker 2: probably I really enjoy going to the All American Classic

860
00:37:57,400 --> 00:37:57,919
Speaker 2: and I'll pass.

861
00:37:57,920 --> 00:38:00,120
Speaker 1: So that was always so fun. Yeah, the Sunball All

862
00:38:00,120 --> 00:38:00,880
Speaker 1: American Classic.

863
00:38:01,280 --> 00:38:04,239
Speaker 2: That that's always a fun when they go to just because, uh,

864
00:38:05,120 --> 00:38:07,520
Speaker 2: it's just the laid back atmosphere of it. The kids

865
00:38:07,520 --> 00:38:09,560
Speaker 2: are there without their team. It's kind of ironic because

866
00:38:09,760 --> 00:38:11,759
Speaker 2: it's a team game, but it's just it's just a

867
00:38:11,800 --> 00:38:14,759
Speaker 2: fun event for me. Uh. The food's fantastic. I based

868
00:38:14,760 --> 00:38:17,080
Speaker 2: a lot of my events andy on the food. Where

869
00:38:17,080 --> 00:38:18,000
Speaker 2: I'm going it's a big.

870
00:38:19,520 --> 00:38:22,640
Speaker 1: Just good steaks, good good, good Mexican food down there.

871
00:38:22,920 --> 00:38:25,080
Speaker 2: Just yeah, it's just that's a good event. That's probably

872
00:38:25,080 --> 00:38:26,640
Speaker 2: it's probably one of my favorites. But a lot of

873
00:38:26,680 --> 00:38:28,719
Speaker 2: them are good. A lot of them are the you know,

874
00:38:28,800 --> 00:38:31,279
Speaker 2: the hospitality and you know, it's the thing about those

875
00:38:31,320 --> 00:38:34,120
Speaker 2: events and there once a year, so usually they roll

876
00:38:34,200 --> 00:38:34,440
Speaker 2: it out.

877
00:38:34,840 --> 00:38:36,839
Speaker 4: When they do it, I'll pass. So that's a big

878
00:38:36,960 --> 00:38:40,840
Speaker 4: deal coming down there. It is so our Friday tradition

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Speaker 4: is overrated, underrated. So I'm just going to give you

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Speaker 4: a series a couple couple of things here. And you

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Speaker 4: say overrated, underrated? What you think ball striking?

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Speaker 1: Just ball striking?

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Speaker 3: Is it overrated?

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Speaker 1: I think it's totally underrated. I mean overrated, a totally overrate.

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Speaker 2: I mean I Jakoff and my good friend at the

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Speaker 2: Golf Channel used to be a boss at Golf Week

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Speaker 2: whenever they you know, Chad Campbell, what a great ball striker?

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Speaker 1: What the hell does that mean? Aren't they all good

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Speaker 1: ball strikers?

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Speaker 2: Sure, some guys hit a squirrely No, So when you

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Speaker 2: took ball striking, uh, overrated.

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Speaker 3: I think it's just become a commodity watching all these It's.

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Speaker 4: Easy to say it's his ball striking or whatever, and

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Speaker 4: it's like the kids that really get it done are

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Speaker 4: the ones that get it done on and around the greens.

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Speaker 4: Like you know, that's the difference between Sam Burns and

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Speaker 4: uh you know the number three guy on.

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Speaker 1: On uh On, You aren't you if you're on the

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Speaker 1: PGA Tour, aren't you probably a pretty.

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Speaker 3: Good ball striker. How about Illinois's three man Eduardo.

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Speaker 2: He's probably underrated, super yeah, super underrated. I mean Dylan Byer,

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Speaker 2: Nick Hardy. The thing about Illinois golf I will for

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Speaker 2: every year I always said there this is they're they're rebuilding.

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Speaker 2: They're rebuilding, They're rebuilding. No, no, they've just been reloading.

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Speaker 2: They've been reloading, and he's part of a reloading structure.

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Speaker 3: I like, have been blown away by this because game

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Speaker 3: this week. I think.

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Speaker 2: Did he win earlier this year as an individual? I

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Speaker 2: think so Olympic somewhere in the fall. I thought he

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Speaker 2: played his individual one.

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Speaker 4: I honestly think he could have the most I like,

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Speaker 4: I'm a huge Nick Hardy and Dylan Meyer fan. I

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Speaker 4: think he might have the most talent of any kid

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Speaker 4: on that roster.

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Speaker 2: If he if Illinois wins this week. I bet he's

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Speaker 2: a big he might go have to go three and Ozero.

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Speaker 3: Yes, it's it's interesting.

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Speaker 4: And year over year Mike Small, what amazes me is

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Speaker 4: how much he develops his players and like that, no

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Speaker 4: kid gets worse.

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Speaker 2: No. And the other thing about Mike Small, how many

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Speaker 2: years has he been there now? Is it like eighteen seventeen?

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Speaker 1: Isn't like okay?

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Speaker 2: And I might be off on my numbers, But the

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Speaker 2: first six or seven years he didn't there, didn't do much.

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Speaker 2: He was developing the program. Now that he developed the

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Speaker 2: program into what it is now he's doing, you know,

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Speaker 2: So it goes to show you a lot of It

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Speaker 2: took him a while to build what he wanted to build.

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Speaker 1: And I was a critic when they hired Mike Small.

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Speaker 1: I thought it was a joke. I'll say it.

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Speaker 2: I mean I really did, and that that was more

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Speaker 2: of the who you know, why would a guy because

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Speaker 2: it doesn't It's never worked in other sports. You know,

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Speaker 2: you think about all the great players that have been

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Speaker 2: that have gotten head coaching jobs in football or basketball.

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Speaker 2: It hasn't always worked, and most times it's failed more

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Speaker 2: than not. And golf, I always thought that that was

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Speaker 2: going to be a bad move, and and boy was

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Speaker 2: I wrong. There's been Chris Sambry, Conrad Ray, He's you

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Speaker 2: know at Stanford, Mike Small. There's been a lot of

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Speaker 2: former players that didn't have coaching experience that jumped into.

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Speaker 1: And have done well.

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Speaker 4: That Naylan Chris Nalen is now at Arizona. That's that's

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Speaker 4: amazing that that program is well.

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Speaker 1: Jim and Arizona. Yeah, oh thought Jim Anderson's Texan and

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Speaker 1: am assistant.

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Speaker 3: I'm I'm.

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Speaker 2: So.

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Speaker 4: Anyways, Lance, thanks for coming on and uh we'll be

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Speaker 4: excited about a busy day tomorrow.

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Speaker 3: Follow Lance on Twitter? Are you on Instagram?

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Speaker 1: Golf Week? Wringler on Twitter than Instagram, We just golf Week.

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Speaker 3: Mag, Golf Week Mag, your company.

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Speaker 1: Man, everything everything is all I just do all through

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Speaker 1: on Twitter. But we have a good good Instagram with goflic.

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Speaker 3: Mag, Golf Week Mag.

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Speaker 4: So yeah, we'll be out here and uh, if are

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Speaker 4: any questions you have at one of us and we'll

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Speaker 4: answer them away.

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Speaker 3: But thanks again.

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Speaker 1: Thanks Andy,