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Speaker 2: We're gonna discuss some standouts from NBA Summer League in Vegas.

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Speaker 2: I hope you like cheese. But let's start with is

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Speaker 2: this news? Is this news? The segment where I give

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Speaker 2: the guys an NBA headline and they tell me whether

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Speaker 2: or not it's newsworthy. Play along either here on YouTube

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Speaker 2: or you podcast listeners. First one, it's from a little

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Speaker 2: slop from Jake Fisher at Yeah, who's sports we saw

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Speaker 1: Uh?

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Speaker 2: And the headline we'll go with is Jazz could have

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Speaker 2: interest in trading for Tyler hero tass mellis get us

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Speaker 1: Is this news not news? This is uh? This is

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Speaker 1: Danny Agent and the Jazz front office contemplating whether or

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Speaker 1: So yeah, I do think that Jake Fisher's reporting is accurate.

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Speaker 1: Danny Ainge made a call. He made a call for

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Speaker 1: This is the same thing. He's just seeing if there's

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Speaker 2: Kicking the tires. Yeah on the old Hero Yeah, Fisher

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Speaker 2: Utah TK And like Tass said, or sorry you didn't

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Speaker 3: I'm with Tass. This is not news and this is

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Speaker 3: There's nothing else out there that Tyler Hero could maybe

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Speaker 2: Yeah, here's why we're leading with this one because we're desperate. Yes,

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Speaker 3: But there's like fifteen Tyler Heroes in the NBA, and unfortunately,

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Speaker 3: So you want the cheap Tyler Hero, you want Tyree Maxey.

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Speaker 3: You don't want to pay thirty million dollars for Tyler

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Speaker 3: I listened to your Guys podcast talking about Siakam why

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Speaker 3: I don't think him signing the extension would be good

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Speaker 3: of getting in the way here. I think Hero is

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Speaker 3: a better player than Anthony Simon's, but I think it's

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Danny's kicking the tire for by Low because Heroes

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Speaker 1: weird for the Jazz to go. They have Jordan Clarkson,

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Speaker 2: For those keeping track, I believe Tyler Hero has removed

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Speaker 2: Miami Heat Guard from his Twitter.

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Speaker 1: Bioh that was weeks ago.

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Speaker 2: Hold on, I know it was months ago.

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Speaker 1: That was said on this show. Years ago.

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Speaker 2: Okay, he would join a crowded backcourt there in Utah.

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Speaker 2: He does find his way there, Like you guys said,

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Speaker 2: Reference and just compare the players. It's damn near identical.

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Speaker 2: TK is this news, no, guess this is.

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Speaker 3: The most interesting thing to me from this entire report

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Speaker 3: a request.

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Speaker 2: What how are these different? One's a little kinder. I

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Speaker 3: Yes, I'm demanding to be traded rather than I request

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Speaker 1: Absolutely, this is not happening until the Lillard trade happens.

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Speaker 1: I could have believed that James Harden would have gone

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Speaker 3: Like, give me lots of teams have done stuff, the

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Speaker 3: That's a big number for Isaiah Stewart, Like they think

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Speaker 3: He's got a lot of big ingredients. Ye, but none

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Speaker 3: Better to keep him around and then figure it out

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Speaker 3: Twenty eleven Brandon Knight, who was traded with Chris Middleton

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Speaker 3: Man, that's as there's been a lot of different people

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Speaker 2: It's crazy.

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Speaker 1: Sorr Thompson looks good though.

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Speaker 1: as if Stewart isn't that type of guy, but hopefully

432
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Speaker 1: they just need one. They just need one. If one

433
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Speaker 1: of those guys pans out with kid, they got.

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Speaker 2: A whole pans on.

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00:21:40,720 --> 00:21:41,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a good point.

436
00:21:41,440 --> 00:21:43,439
Speaker 2: Like Kaid was not playing very well before he got

437
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Speaker 2: hurt last year. Is he going to be a shooter?

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00:21:45,520 --> 00:21:47,720
Speaker 3: They need him to be a shooter because Ivy doesn't

439
00:21:47,720 --> 00:21:50,199
Speaker 3: look like a shooter. They've obviously got a lot of

440
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Speaker 3: big guys, and they might be trading their best shooter

441
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Speaker 3: in Bogdanovich.

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00:21:52,840 --> 00:21:54,560
Speaker 2: So this is a big year. I kind of think

443
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Speaker 2: for Kid Cunningham Killian Hayes is extension eligible, but don't

444
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Speaker 2: hold your breath on on that one. I wouldn't think

445
00:22:01,280 --> 00:22:03,600
Speaker 2: they'll be giving him one. Next piece of news here,

446
00:22:04,000 --> 00:22:08,040
Speaker 2: the NBA to implement flopping penalty and expand the use

447
00:22:08,840 --> 00:22:11,879
Speaker 2: of the coach challenge. Trey, let's start with you. I

448
00:22:11,880 --> 00:22:13,600
Speaker 2: know we've talked about this a little bit already, but

449
00:22:14,080 --> 00:22:16,159
Speaker 2: is this news now though we know some details.

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Speaker 3: About Yeah, I suppose this is news. We're gonna have

451
00:22:20,040 --> 00:22:23,359
Speaker 3: some new rules to look at. It ain't the updown report,

452
00:22:23,400 --> 00:22:25,359
Speaker 3: but I am so down on this. Yeah, I am

453
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Speaker 3: so down both of them, both of them. More stoppages,

454
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Speaker 3: more reviews, and more complaining. The flopping penalty is not

455
00:22:33,000 --> 00:22:35,680
Speaker 3: going to change anything except for people arguing about whether

456
00:22:35,760 --> 00:22:37,840
Speaker 3: or not this was a flop. Think about soccer, they

457
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Speaker 3: give a yellow card for embellishment. Sure, those guys still flop.

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Speaker 2: People have been.

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Speaker 3: Flopping in the NBA for forty years, probably since the

460
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Speaker 3: NBA started. There was a cover of Sports Illustrated magazine

461
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Speaker 3: about Bill Ambier's flopping in nineteen ninety. They've tried so

462
00:22:52,400 --> 00:22:55,280
Speaker 3: many things. People are still going to fall, and russ

463
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Speaker 3: are still going to fall for it. As for the

464
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Speaker 3: additional review, it's like, it makes sense. You win one,

465
00:23:00,359 --> 00:23:01,760
Speaker 3: you get it back. But guess what now we have

466
00:23:01,840 --> 00:23:04,240
Speaker 3: double the reviews in every single game, So big down

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Speaker 3: for me.

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Speaker 2: What do you think tasks on on either of them

469
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Speaker 2: do you prefer to?

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Speaker 1: Definitely the coaches Challenge. It has a little bit more

471
00:23:13,600 --> 00:23:16,560
Speaker 1: teeth to it. It's gonna happen. I mean, the flopping

472
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Speaker 1: thing I think is gonna be out the door in

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Speaker 1: the first month. I don't think the referees are going

474
00:23:20,720 --> 00:23:26,800
Speaker 1: to be well last month. This is gonna be a

475
00:23:26,800 --> 00:23:30,320
Speaker 1: half hearted attempt at the beginning. And the other part

476
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Speaker 1: of this is, if you read into it, referees won't

477
00:23:33,480 --> 00:23:36,600
Speaker 1: have to stop play to call a flop. They can

478
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Speaker 1: wait until the next stop in live action if needed

479
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Speaker 1: to make the call. So to me, it sounds like

480
00:23:41,960 --> 00:23:45,920
Speaker 1: it's going to come from a pig like they're not

481
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Speaker 1: gonna they're gonna see a flop and then wait for

482
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Speaker 1: three minutes to whistle it down. It doesn't sound so so.

483
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Speaker 2: To explain that that's like what they can do now

484
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Speaker 2: with whether a guy's on the three point line right right,

485
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Speaker 2: game continues. Yeah, they make a little, we'll check it

486
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Speaker 2: a little.

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Speaker 1: I'll check it later. No, why will check it later?

488
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Speaker 1: Because it's impossible to tell in real time. It's impossible

489
00:24:05,160 --> 00:24:07,000
Speaker 1: to tell if somebody is flopping in real time. That's

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Speaker 1: why nothing is going to happen. And what they do

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Speaker 1: receive is a non unsportsmanlike technical foul. That's what will

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Speaker 1: be administered, and that means, in layman's terms, not a

493
00:24:19,280 --> 00:24:21,760
Speaker 1: real technical foul, like a technical foul if you're hanging

494
00:24:21,800 --> 00:24:23,399
Speaker 1: on the rim, or if there's too many players on

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Speaker 1: the floor so you don't get tossed. If this is

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Speaker 1: part of your two technical fouls. This is just some

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Speaker 1: extra thing so.

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Speaker 2: The opposing team gets a free throw.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, so it's not a tech fil So it's

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Speaker 1: it's it doesn't have teeth. I don't think. I think

501
00:24:38,520 --> 00:24:41,760
Speaker 1: it's too hard to call, and I think yeah, likes

502
00:24:41,760 --> 00:24:44,800
Speaker 1: somebody stepping on the on the three point line when

503
00:24:44,840 --> 00:24:46,479
Speaker 1: you let a shot go. I don't think it's going

504
00:24:46,520 --> 00:24:48,399
Speaker 1: to come from a referee, like I think it's going

505
00:24:48,480 --> 00:24:50,640
Speaker 1: to maybe call from the review center. Hey, you might

506
00:24:50,680 --> 00:24:53,040
Speaker 1: want to look at this flop. It's extremely egregious. I

507
00:24:53,119 --> 00:24:55,640
Speaker 1: think they might try and get rid of the wild,

508
00:24:55,960 --> 00:24:59,640
Speaker 1: wild wild, Chris Paul way over the top type flops.

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Speaker 1: I don't think it's gonna happen. I just don't think

510
00:25:03,119 --> 00:25:08,440
Speaker 1: it's And the flopping fines still exist, which don't exist.

511
00:25:08,600 --> 00:25:11,240
Speaker 1: That is a rule, but they don't still out there. Yeah,

512
00:25:11,320 --> 00:25:14,960
Speaker 1: it's not implemented at all, and that doesn't deter anything

513
00:25:15,320 --> 00:25:17,639
Speaker 1: if you make it, even they don't even use that.

514
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Speaker 1: Even if you made it fifty thousand a flop, I

515
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Speaker 1: wouldn't deter anything.

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Speaker 2: I'm also terrified of the NBA broadcast when it comes

517
00:25:25,760 --> 00:25:29,800
Speaker 2: to like discussing the flops and trying to tell us

518
00:25:29,840 --> 00:25:32,359
Speaker 2: what's happened, especially if we can go back. It doesn't

519
00:25:32,400 --> 00:25:35,280
Speaker 2: have to be called right there, you know, at the

520
00:25:35,320 --> 00:25:37,560
Speaker 2: moment it occurs and we can get it, like when

521
00:25:37,560 --> 00:25:39,919
Speaker 2: there's a stoppage, like it's gonna be it's gonna be

522
00:25:39,920 --> 00:25:41,640
Speaker 2: a mess. I can see it now of the broadcast,

523
00:25:41,640 --> 00:25:43,520
Speaker 2: try and explain what the hell happened? Why is this

524
00:25:43,560 --> 00:25:45,680
Speaker 2: team suddenly shooting a free throw? And then they're gonna

525
00:25:45,680 --> 00:25:47,120
Speaker 2: have to go back and show us. But they're gonna

526
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Speaker 2: be confused because this is interesting. Possession will not change, however,

527
00:25:50,840 --> 00:25:54,560
Speaker 2: and flopping violations can't be directly reviewed by a coach's challenge.

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Speaker 2: They can, however, be added to a call during a

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Speaker 2: review of a different play. Just read that is confusing.

530
00:26:01,880 --> 00:26:05,280
Speaker 2: So in practice maybe it's it's well the challenge part

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Speaker 2: I get, but it's like this the possession nut Like,

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Speaker 2: I think, what could happen here is I'm posting you

533
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Speaker 2: up to ask. I'm light, so you shouldn't be fallen

534
00:26:15,200 --> 00:26:19,320
Speaker 2: over right, But you sell it and play continues. Okay, play,

535
00:26:19,480 --> 00:26:21,960
Speaker 2: play can do. Okay, play keeps going on, but the

536
00:26:22,000 --> 00:26:25,159
Speaker 2: ref has noticed that you probably flopped or someone in

537
00:26:25,200 --> 00:26:29,040
Speaker 2: siccaccas or whatever. We keep going. Three plays later there's

538
00:26:29,080 --> 00:26:32,560
Speaker 2: a stoppage and now we're gonna go look, I guess

539
00:26:32,640 --> 00:26:36,800
Speaker 2: at you and determine whether you did flop, and then

540
00:26:36,840 --> 00:26:39,800
Speaker 2: we do so I guess my team is just gonna

541
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Speaker 2: get a free throw. But it's not like then we

542
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Speaker 2: keep ball, it'll be whatever had happened after that. We're

543
00:26:45,800 --> 00:26:47,880
Speaker 2: just then picking up from there. Does that make sense?

544
00:26:49,040 --> 00:26:50,080
Speaker 2: So it could still be your ball?

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: And and fun.

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Speaker 1: And I think the NBA's goal there is to not

548
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Speaker 1: stop the play, yes, and that it happens during some

549
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Speaker 1: random break of play. It's a TV timeout. They went

550
00:27:00,160 --> 00:27:02,440
Speaker 1: checked during a TV timeout, like they do when you

551
00:27:02,480 --> 00:27:04,960
Speaker 1: step on the line, and they'll come back and say, oh,

552
00:27:05,000 --> 00:27:09,280
Speaker 1: this agregious flop resulted in a free throw?

553
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Speaker 2: Does it almost make it? Doesn't it make more sense

554
00:27:11,600 --> 00:27:15,680
Speaker 2: to actually stop when the flop. Stop the flop when

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00:27:15,680 --> 00:27:16,199
Speaker 2: it happens.

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Speaker 1: It's impossible to call. It's just so hard to call.

557
00:27:19,960 --> 00:27:21,280
Speaker 1: And that's why I think it's going to come from

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00:27:21,320 --> 00:27:23,160
Speaker 1: a review center with the hopes that it doesn't stop

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00:27:23,200 --> 00:27:25,760
Speaker 1: play and then it'll be gone a.

560
00:27:25,800 --> 00:27:31,399
Speaker 2: Month, okay or whatever time is. And as for the challenges,

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Speaker 2: are you concerned like Trey is in just terms of

562
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Speaker 2: there being really another one that they can use just

563
00:27:37,119 --> 00:27:38,760
Speaker 2: to slow the game a little bit more or no

564
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Speaker 2: issues with it?

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Speaker 1: Well, the thing is, I like coaches having that power

566
00:27:44,000 --> 00:27:46,879
Speaker 1: in a way, but the thing is they're always like

567
00:27:47,080 --> 00:27:49,440
Speaker 1: fifty to fifty anyways, sometimes they get it right, sometimes

568
00:27:49,480 --> 00:27:51,120
Speaker 1: they get it wrong. So what's the point of giving

569
00:27:51,160 --> 00:27:53,280
Speaker 1: them a second challenge? You know, I don't know they

570
00:27:53,320 --> 00:27:56,040
Speaker 1: sped it up. Yeah, I mean don't. I don't know

571
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Speaker 1: the percentage exactly, but if sure feels like they don't

572
00:28:00,680 --> 00:28:02,399
Speaker 1: win them all the time, So it's kind of like,

573
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Speaker 1: what's the point. We'll see.

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Speaker 2: Let's hear from you guys on this one. Both the

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Speaker 2: second challenge there if you get the first one right

576
00:28:09,520 --> 00:28:14,280
Speaker 2: for the coaches and this this flopping penalty, Uh, are

577
00:28:14,320 --> 00:28:16,280
Speaker 2: you a fan of it? Why not give it a go?

578
00:28:16,600 --> 00:28:22,800
Speaker 2: Let's hear your thoughts. A final piece of this wow

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Speaker 2: JD drop into the Canadian anthem Julie style. Oh in

580
00:28:26,600 --> 00:28:28,760
Speaker 2: the flag and everything. This is beautiful. Okay. So the

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Speaker 2: headline is Jamal Murray and Shay Gilds Alexander headline Team

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Speaker 2: Canada FOEBA roster. Yes, the training camp roster is out

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Speaker 2: tasked for Canada's upcoming FOBA World Cup run. It's Jamal Murray,

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Speaker 2: It's sg A, It's r. J. Barrett, It's Dylan Brooks,

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Speaker 2: Lou Dort, Nikhil, Alexander Walker, Kelly Lennok, Dwight Powell, Shaeperset,

586
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Speaker 2: Corey Joseph. I'll stop there because those are the NBA guys.

587
00:28:52,920 --> 00:28:55,480
Speaker 2: And then you got a couple scrubs. That's their names.

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00:28:56,160 --> 00:28:56,680
Speaker 2: That's their name.

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Speaker 1: Whatn Pengo, that's right. Zach Eddie m zach Eddio was

590
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Speaker 1: playing the NBA.

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00:29:01,760 --> 00:29:08,880
Speaker 2: Excuse me play it? Yeah, cannot run. But this is

592
00:29:08,920 --> 00:29:12,040
Speaker 2: the roster right now. I mean there's a lot of names.

593
00:29:12,080 --> 00:29:15,680
Speaker 2: It'll be twiddled down to twelve. But is this news test?

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Speaker 1: This is the best collection of Canadian talent ever assembled

595
00:29:20,040 --> 00:29:24,160
Speaker 1: all damn right. It's great news. It's like the No

596
00:29:24,320 --> 00:29:32,360
Speaker 1: Dunks podcast. How the best collection of Canadian talent ever?

597
00:29:32,520 --> 00:29:36,840
Speaker 1: So did you hear JD insert that organ at the

598
00:29:36,840 --> 00:29:40,840
Speaker 1: exact right time That wasn't even practiced anyway, good thing.

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00:29:40,880 --> 00:29:43,400
Speaker 1: We did that Canadian Baseball podcast a couple of weeks ago, JD,

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Speaker 1: you had these lower thirds produced exactly. Yeah, baby great anyway, Yeah,

601
00:29:47,440 --> 00:29:50,240
Speaker 1: Jamal Murray takes all the headlines. But Shakelos Alexander is

602
00:29:51,240 --> 00:29:54,600
Speaker 1: borderline MVP candidate last year, only getting better. And yeah,

603
00:29:54,760 --> 00:29:56,880
Speaker 1: that's a that's a stacked basketball team.

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00:29:57,000 --> 00:29:59,120
Speaker 2: That's pretty good. I mean the backcourt especially, it might

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Speaker 2: be the back starting b Courton maybe in Fobo be

606
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Speaker 2: with those two guys. But yeah, they need to obviously

607
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Speaker 2: have a good showing here in the Feeble World Cup

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Speaker 2: because they want to make the Olympics in twenty twenty four,

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Speaker 2: and they can qualify by being one of the two

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Speaker 2: top seven teams from the Americas. It's a weird thing

611
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Speaker 2: how they do this. But within this Feeble World Cup, Okay,

612
00:30:19,040 --> 00:30:22,480
Speaker 2: follow me, there are seven teams from the America's region.

613
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Speaker 2: Obviously the Americans are one of them, Canada the other one.

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Speaker 2: There's five other ones. Don't ask me to name them,

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Speaker 2: but you got the top two, yeah, exactly. I mean

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Speaker 2: it seems like that, and I think so that's the

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Speaker 2: goal here and we'll find out whether they can.

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Speaker 1: So weird because it's a group play, m hmm, but

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Speaker 1: you can determine who are the tops whatever. Anyway, it'd

620
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Speaker 1: be nice if Wiggy was there or Shadon Sharp was there.

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Speaker 2: For sure, it's potential that they could maybe be included

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Speaker 2: in Paris if they do qualify. But then you get

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Speaker 2: into that whole thing like these are the guys that

624
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Speaker 2: got you there, and that's an issue. I can understand why.

625
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Speaker 2: But this is a very very good team. You have

626
00:31:00,240 --> 00:31:01,720
Speaker 2: to applaud the guys for committing because this is the

627
00:31:01,720 --> 00:31:04,200
Speaker 2: whole thing. They're trying to do what America's done. Hey, guys,

628
00:31:04,240 --> 00:31:08,720
Speaker 2: we need three year commitments to try and build some continuity,

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Speaker 2: to build a team here because we have all these

630
00:31:11,640 --> 00:31:13,560
Speaker 2: NBA players, we should be better than we are. And

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00:31:13,600 --> 00:31:16,600
Speaker 2: this is an organization that's unfortunately come up short time

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Speaker 2: and time again here. But anyway, Trey thoughts.

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Speaker 3: You gotta advance this year if you gotta get out

634
00:31:20,760 --> 00:31:24,280
Speaker 3: of the group stage, just Canada, Latvia, Lebanon, and France.

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Speaker 3: France is advancing. Sure, so it's basically for me between

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Speaker 3: Canada and Latvia. Maybe that's a problem with Kristaps Porzingis

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Speaker 3: because the bigs are definitely the weakness for Canada.

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Speaker 2: Kelly A.

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Speaker 3: Linok, Dwight Powell, and Zach Eaedy seem to be the guys.

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Speaker 3: So I guess if Porzingis goes nuts, maybe Latvia has

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00:31:41,160 --> 00:31:43,920
Speaker 3: a chance here. But it feels like Canada has a

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00:31:43,920 --> 00:31:45,320
Speaker 3: pretty solid chance to at least make it to the

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Speaker 3: knockout round.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I guess loud Dort will size up a little

645
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Speaker 1: bit and take some fours. But yeah, they're yeah, they're

646
00:31:52,120 --> 00:31:55,960
Speaker 1: lacking in the in the Biggs department, for sure. They

647
00:31:56,000 --> 00:31:58,520
Speaker 1: play France on August twenty fifth. Good stuff.

648
00:31:58,840 --> 00:32:01,200
Speaker 2: There's a lot that's like that. That's like hours from now,

649
00:32:02,800 --> 00:32:04,480
Speaker 2: just a couple of hours. I'm gonna keep running with.

650
00:32:06,880 --> 00:32:08,880
Speaker 1: It'll be on you before you know it. August twenty

651
00:32:08,880 --> 00:32:12,560
Speaker 1: fifth will be here very soon. There's thirty two teams

652
00:32:12,600 --> 00:32:13,640
Speaker 1: in this term. That's a lot of teams.

653
00:32:13,760 --> 00:32:18,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, too many. Well, seven from the Americas. Seven

654
00:32:18,120 --> 00:32:19,200
Speaker 2: from the Americas. There's a lot.

655
00:32:19,800 --> 00:32:21,400
Speaker 1: I just feel like, and I think they're doing that

656
00:32:21,400 --> 00:32:23,480
Speaker 1: with the Olympics too, where there's they've expanded the field

657
00:32:23,480 --> 00:32:25,240
Speaker 1: where it's gonna be fairy too. I think I think

658
00:32:25,240 --> 00:32:28,120
Speaker 1: it sounds like a lot. But as you said that

659
00:32:28,440 --> 00:32:31,440
Speaker 1: they should advance with France hopefully. It's two teams from

660
00:32:31,480 --> 00:32:35,160
Speaker 1: each division, each group, each pot whatever they're calling.

661
00:32:35,000 --> 00:32:36,080
Speaker 2: Them is it?

662
00:32:36,160 --> 00:32:38,920
Speaker 1: Is it two teams? It has two year, two part. Well,

663
00:32:38,920 --> 00:32:41,800
Speaker 1: I'm sure I'm looking ahead to this man looking ahead.

664
00:32:41,800 --> 00:32:43,680
Speaker 1: I'm looking forward to them advancing hopefully.

665
00:32:44,160 --> 00:32:47,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, I definitely could uh could use some bigs. I mean, uh,

666
00:32:47,600 --> 00:32:50,360
Speaker 2: Canada has done a great job of like the the one,

667
00:32:50,400 --> 00:32:53,640
Speaker 2: two and three positions really in growing talent NBA talent because,

668
00:32:53,680 --> 00:32:56,120
Speaker 2: like you said it, no sharp here. You know, Wiggins,

669
00:32:56,120 --> 00:32:58,800
Speaker 2: I know is maybe a three sort of borderline four,

670
00:32:58,840 --> 00:33:03,080
Speaker 2: maybe a feeble level. But Benedict Mathrin Andrew Nemhart, I mean,

671
00:33:03,080 --> 00:33:08,080
Speaker 2: there's a lot of really really good guards in Canada here,

672
00:33:08,120 --> 00:33:11,640
Speaker 2: but yeah, I need some bigs. Trey. Can we get

673
00:33:11,640 --> 00:33:15,640
Speaker 2: you some Canadian citizenship? Damn it, you've already played for.

674
00:33:17,560 --> 00:33:20,360
Speaker 3: I'm on Team America's world squad. But I'm I'm just

675
00:33:20,440 --> 00:33:24,000
Speaker 3: thinking back to Matt Bonner. That guy couldn't even get

676
00:33:24,120 --> 00:33:26,920
Speaker 3: Canadian citizenship. He was an actual NBA big.

677
00:33:27,480 --> 00:33:28,240
Speaker 1: They could use them.

678
00:33:28,520 --> 00:33:31,360
Speaker 3: Maybe bring back Tristan Thompson he played in the playoffs.

679
00:33:31,360 --> 00:33:34,000
Speaker 3: I saw it with my own that's right.

680
00:33:34,160 --> 00:33:37,480
Speaker 2: So yeah, the goal is to obviously go pretty far here,

681
00:33:37,520 --> 00:33:39,880
Speaker 2: I think in feeble World Cup with this type of team,

682
00:33:40,400 --> 00:33:42,840
Speaker 2: and we'll wait to see what their their final twelve are.

683
00:33:44,440 --> 00:33:46,719
Speaker 2: Let's talk a little summer league guys. It's been a second.

684
00:33:47,320 --> 00:33:50,120
Speaker 2: My simple question is who has stood out to you

685
00:33:50,760 --> 00:33:53,160
Speaker 2: from Vegas Summer League? And I know we could make

686
00:33:53,160 --> 00:33:56,520
Speaker 2: this into its whole damn podcast, but we won't get

687
00:33:56,520 --> 00:34:00,440
Speaker 2: to everybody, But who has maybe surprised you or someone

688
00:34:00,480 --> 00:34:02,560
Speaker 2: you want to talk about deserves some praise here.

689
00:34:03,520 --> 00:34:06,960
Speaker 1: Well, I didn't know Conte George had that skill set.

690
00:34:07,000 --> 00:34:09,640
Speaker 1: He didn't start well in the Utah Summer League, and

691
00:34:09,680 --> 00:34:12,040
Speaker 1: then he looks a lot like Jordan Clarkson, like he

692
00:34:12,040 --> 00:34:15,600
Speaker 1: can fire away, then he can take it to the rack.

693
00:34:16,400 --> 00:34:20,480
Speaker 1: He had thirty nine through two games. I mean, he

694
00:34:20,560 --> 00:34:23,799
Speaker 1: is the Jordan Clarkson replacement on that team, and he

695
00:34:23,840 --> 00:34:26,600
Speaker 1: got injured at the end of it. But I think

696
00:34:26,640 --> 00:34:30,440
Speaker 1: the the MRIs, all the X rays or were negative.

697
00:34:30,520 --> 00:34:33,040
Speaker 1: So yeah, he can get to the rim, but he's

698
00:34:33,080 --> 00:34:36,280
Speaker 1: also ready to fire. He looks like a very very

699
00:34:36,320 --> 00:34:39,960
Speaker 1: skilled player number sixteen out of Baylor, so they got

700
00:34:39,960 --> 00:34:41,560
Speaker 1: to be happy with that. We can I'll just start

701
00:34:41,560 --> 00:34:44,160
Speaker 1: there because I don't want to name everyone quite yet.

702
00:34:44,200 --> 00:34:46,120
Speaker 2: No, he looks he looks good. I mean when you

703
00:34:46,160 --> 00:34:48,000
Speaker 2: see him play, he does feel like he can sort

704
00:34:48,000 --> 00:34:50,319
Speaker 2: of do a bit of everything in terms of like

705
00:34:50,400 --> 00:34:52,920
Speaker 2: shooting the three, getting to the rim, like you said,

706
00:34:53,040 --> 00:34:55,759
Speaker 2: looks comfortable in the pick and roll, hits guys, you know,

707
00:34:55,800 --> 00:34:58,759
Speaker 2: cutting through the lane. Disappointing the ankle injury, because like

708
00:34:58,840 --> 00:35:00,719
Speaker 2: maybe he was on his way to winning potentially like

709
00:35:00,760 --> 00:35:02,520
Speaker 2: a summer league MVP. I think he had talked about

710
00:35:02,560 --> 00:35:04,320
Speaker 2: it being like sort of like one of his early

711
00:35:04,400 --> 00:35:06,040
Speaker 2: goals here, and I know the Jazz were doing really

712
00:35:06,080 --> 00:35:08,520
Speaker 2: well here too, but they've shut him down. But yeah,

713
00:35:08,560 --> 00:35:09,480
Speaker 2: he definitely impressed.

714
00:35:09,480 --> 00:35:12,799
Speaker 3: What about you, Trey, Yeah, Kyante George is definitely good.

715
00:35:12,840 --> 00:35:14,440
Speaker 3: A couple of guys that we haven't talked about yet

716
00:35:14,600 --> 00:35:17,279
Speaker 3: I think have been impressive. As Aser Thompson. That guy

717
00:35:17,320 --> 00:35:21,000
Speaker 3: looks pretty solid. Obviously Aman Out went out with an injury,

718
00:35:21,000 --> 00:35:24,560
Speaker 3: but a sour has still been playing. Twelve eight, four assists,

719
00:35:24,560 --> 00:35:27,240
Speaker 3: a couple of steals, a couple of blocks. Incredible athlete.

720
00:35:27,239 --> 00:35:30,319
Speaker 3: He's shooting sixteen percent from three. People said watch out

721
00:35:30,320 --> 00:35:34,640
Speaker 3: for the jumper. That's gonna be the next step for

722
00:35:34,719 --> 00:35:36,400
Speaker 3: both of the Thompson twins. But I thought he's been

723
00:35:36,400 --> 00:35:38,920
Speaker 3: pretty solid. And Jordan Walsh for the Celtics as a

724
00:35:38,960 --> 00:35:41,800
Speaker 3: deeper cut, has been really really good. Eighteen points, five rebounds,

725
00:35:41,840 --> 00:35:44,080
Speaker 3: a couple of assists, a steel shooting good percentages.

726
00:35:44,400 --> 00:35:46,680
Speaker 2: Looks like he'll probably play for the Celtics.

727
00:35:46,719 --> 00:35:49,440
Speaker 3: You know, they replaced basically Grant Williams with Kris STAPs

728
00:35:49,480 --> 00:35:53,239
Speaker 3: porzingis they still got some need for minutes out on

729
00:35:53,280 --> 00:35:55,279
Speaker 3: the wing, I would have to imagine. I could see

730
00:35:55,280 --> 00:35:58,160
Speaker 3: Walsh getting some minutes. But my biggest Summer League hot

731
00:35:58,160 --> 00:36:01,319
Speaker 3: take takeaway, Chet Holmgren is gonna win Rookie of the Year.

732
00:36:01,400 --> 00:36:04,839
Speaker 3: Oh okay, he's gonna do it because we've already heard

733
00:36:04,920 --> 00:36:09,120
Speaker 3: Zach Low speculating about Victor Webbin Yama being load managed.

734
00:36:09,320 --> 00:36:12,000
Speaker 3: He wants to play in the Olympics next year. That's

735
00:36:12,040 --> 00:36:13,880
Speaker 3: a lot of games to play for a rookie, so

736
00:36:13,920 --> 00:36:17,319
Speaker 3: I would not be surprised if he is near the

737
00:36:17,360 --> 00:36:19,880
Speaker 3: sixty five game limit. Chet's gonna play a ton. The

738
00:36:19,920 --> 00:36:21,719
Speaker 3: guy is still going in Summer League because he sat

739
00:36:21,719 --> 00:36:24,160
Speaker 3: out for an entire season and he is dominating. He

740
00:36:24,200 --> 00:36:27,000
Speaker 3: looks like a second year player because he is technically,

741
00:36:27,080 --> 00:36:28,640
Speaker 3: but he's still going to be eligible for Rookie of

742
00:36:28,680 --> 00:36:32,520
Speaker 3: the Year. So hold me to this. In months, literal months,

743
00:36:32,560 --> 00:36:34,120
Speaker 3: when we're making our picks, I'm gonna take.

744
00:36:34,000 --> 00:36:36,520
Speaker 2: Chet, okay. I mean, look, it'd be could be a

745
00:36:36,600 --> 00:36:40,200
Speaker 2: nice little race between Chet, Scoot Weben Yama if and

746
00:36:40,239 --> 00:36:41,759
Speaker 2: you're right, I had forgotten about you got to play

747
00:36:41,760 --> 00:36:44,360
Speaker 2: the sixty five games now I forgot that also goes

748
00:36:44,360 --> 00:36:47,600
Speaker 2: for the rookies, which is now think about it. You know,

749
00:36:47,840 --> 00:36:49,239
Speaker 2: I don't mind it, but it's sort of like a

750
00:36:49,280 --> 00:36:50,520
Speaker 2: little a little shocking.

751
00:36:50,719 --> 00:36:53,000
Speaker 1: There's a lot of games, Yeah it is, but what

752
00:36:53,040 --> 00:36:56,440
Speaker 1: do you what? Aout love? Yeah, I love chet with

753
00:36:56,440 --> 00:36:58,759
Speaker 1: with Shay and with Josh Gatty, He's gonna get a

754
00:36:58,760 --> 00:37:00,680
Speaker 1: lot of opportunity. They didn't have really a pick and

755
00:37:00,760 --> 00:37:04,480
Speaker 1: roll guy last year, and he will be rolling, he

756
00:37:04,520 --> 00:37:07,360
Speaker 1: will be popping. He is going to be a focus

757
00:37:07,680 --> 00:37:09,960
Speaker 1: for those for those guards, they're gonna be excited to

758
00:37:09,960 --> 00:37:13,440
Speaker 1: play with that dude. And obviously defensively, he's really stood

759
00:37:13,440 --> 00:37:17,560
Speaker 1: out at Summer League, looks bigger, So hopefully, hopefully he

760
00:37:17,560 --> 00:37:20,640
Speaker 1: can keep that up because in that way, it's his

761
00:37:20,680 --> 00:37:23,920
Speaker 1: first season in terms of just games played and you know,

762
00:37:23,960 --> 00:37:26,719
Speaker 1: having the physical endurance, So hopefully he'll be all right.

763
00:37:26,880 --> 00:37:29,600
Speaker 1: Another guy who is big and looks big and was

764
00:37:29,600 --> 00:37:31,920
Speaker 1: supposed to be like a Draymond Green prototype, Jaris Walker

765
00:37:31,960 --> 00:37:34,520
Speaker 1: with the Pacers, and he's doing that. He is you

766
00:37:34,520 --> 00:37:37,520
Speaker 1: could see him the dribble handoffs that Draymond Green gets

767
00:37:37,520 --> 00:37:39,759
Speaker 1: and then just a straight line drives or breaking up

768
00:37:40,360 --> 00:37:43,600
Speaker 1: offensive plays, just just just totally busting them up with

769
00:37:43,680 --> 00:37:47,040
Speaker 1: a great block or er, a steel like he's a

770
00:37:47,080 --> 00:37:50,720
Speaker 1: five x five guy waiting to happen, right, so looking

771
00:37:50,719 --> 00:37:53,520
Speaker 1: forward to watching him the one like sort.

772
00:37:53,320 --> 00:37:55,320
Speaker 2: Of like big picture I've thought about in the Summer

773
00:37:55,400 --> 00:37:57,879
Speaker 2: League action that we either saw when we're alive or

774
00:37:58,000 --> 00:37:59,720
Speaker 2: you know, just watching highlights in some of the games

775
00:37:59,719 --> 00:38:03,200
Speaker 2: here in Atlanta. In the in the top ten, let's

776
00:38:03,239 --> 00:38:07,480
Speaker 2: say there are a lot of like defensive disruptors. I

777
00:38:07,520 --> 00:38:11,200
Speaker 2: would say both the Thompson twins are of that, you know,

778
00:38:11,280 --> 00:38:14,680
Speaker 2: sort of ILK. I mean, you're hoping that the offensive game,

779
00:38:15,320 --> 00:38:17,359
Speaker 2: especially the shooting, will come around. But the same can

780
00:38:17,400 --> 00:38:20,239
Speaker 2: be said. I think for Anthony Black, who is I

781
00:38:20,280 --> 00:38:23,200
Speaker 2: thought been pretty well, pretty solid for the Magic obviously

782
00:38:23,239 --> 00:38:27,520
Speaker 2: their pick. He's great defensively, like he is smart blal Kulabali,

783
00:38:27,680 --> 00:38:30,319
Speaker 2: same thing. But it's just gonna be like all these

784
00:38:30,320 --> 00:38:32,759
Speaker 2: guys like they can play defense, like you could put

785
00:38:32,800 --> 00:38:34,800
Speaker 2: them out there right now and they're not gonna get lost.

786
00:38:35,520 --> 00:38:37,719
Speaker 2: But yeah, can they hit a shot and can like

787
00:38:37,760 --> 00:38:40,160
Speaker 2: because teams are gonna start leaving them and sagging under

788
00:38:40,160 --> 00:38:41,920
Speaker 2: pick and rolls and saying, come on, shoot away, man,

789
00:38:41,960 --> 00:38:43,719
Speaker 2: like what are you gonna do? So that'll you know,

790
00:38:43,800 --> 00:38:46,520
Speaker 2: that's just gonna be their development but defensively man, So

791
00:38:46,719 --> 00:38:48,040
Speaker 2: some of these guys are awesome already.

792
00:38:48,080 --> 00:38:51,400
Speaker 1: I think, Yeah, offense is the question. Yeah, and another

793
00:38:51,480 --> 00:38:53,680
Speaker 1: question is, well, Jordan Poole or Kyle Kuzma passed the

794
00:38:53,680 --> 00:38:56,680
Speaker 1: ball too, will you have it a shot at making

795
00:38:56,719 --> 00:38:59,560
Speaker 1: a shot? But he yeah, he's lots of guys are

796
00:38:59,560 --> 00:39:03,040
Speaker 1: showing some some great stuff. We saw Kobe Buffkin make

797
00:39:03,200 --> 00:39:06,600
Speaker 1: that game winner. Looks like he's got body control anyway.

798
00:39:06,920 --> 00:39:09,239
Speaker 1: It's uh, it's been a fun summer leak for that

799
00:39:09,280 --> 00:39:14,719
Speaker 1: also a fun nickname, chet GPT. I like it. It looks

800
00:39:14,760 --> 00:39:18,719
Speaker 1: like he was made in a lab. Ignacious Roberto coming

801
00:39:18,800 --> 00:39:20,440
Speaker 1: coming through in the stream.

802
00:39:20,200 --> 00:39:21,560
Speaker 2: Get GPG.

803
00:39:23,120 --> 00:39:26,160
Speaker 1: I can see it. I could see. We know, we

804
00:39:26,239 --> 00:39:29,560
Speaker 1: know Shay likes his social media. I don't know there's something,

805
00:39:29,640 --> 00:39:30,480
Speaker 1: there's something.

806
00:39:30,719 --> 00:39:32,480
Speaker 2: Anyone else you wanted to talk about. I mean some

807
00:39:32,520 --> 00:39:34,279
Speaker 2: of the second year guys, I mean not so prised,

808
00:39:34,280 --> 00:39:38,239
Speaker 2: like Jamari Smith Junior Tuga for Summer Lake Dominant and yeah,

809
00:39:38,239 --> 00:39:40,279
Speaker 2: I mean this is this happens every year. Where you

810
00:39:40,280 --> 00:39:42,160
Speaker 2: see him play a game or two, you're like, yep,

811
00:39:42,800 --> 00:39:44,759
Speaker 2: they were an NBA guy. They know what they're doing

812
00:39:44,800 --> 00:39:48,080
Speaker 2: and have gotten better, for sure. But anyone else you

813
00:39:48,120 --> 00:39:49,200
Speaker 2: wanted to toss in here.

814
00:39:49,239 --> 00:39:52,000
Speaker 3: Now we talked about those guys earlier. I guess Marjohn Bowchamp.

815
00:39:52,480 --> 00:39:55,520
Speaker 3: It's interesting that he's been playing pretty well because the

816
00:39:55,560 --> 00:39:59,120
Speaker 3: Bucks are a team that is lacking in youth and athleticism,

817
00:39:59,400 --> 00:40:01,920
Speaker 3: and he is like their big upside swing, kind of

818
00:40:02,000 --> 00:40:05,279
Speaker 3: like when the Nuggets took Michael Porter Junior despite the

819
00:40:05,320 --> 00:40:08,200
Speaker 3: knowledge of his back injury, like this guy could raise

820
00:40:08,239 --> 00:40:10,120
Speaker 3: our ceiling in the future. I think the same is

821
00:40:10,160 --> 00:40:13,320
Speaker 3: probably true what the Bucks are hoping from Bowchamp. Like

822
00:40:13,320 --> 00:40:15,120
Speaker 3: if they're able to get a guy who was, you know,

823
00:40:15,239 --> 00:40:17,680
Speaker 3: like one of the highest recruited players when he was

824
00:40:17,719 --> 00:40:21,000
Speaker 3: a high school player and he somehow blossoms once he

825
00:40:21,000 --> 00:40:23,000
Speaker 3: gets to the NBA, that'd be a huge fine for them.

826
00:40:23,080 --> 00:40:25,000
Speaker 3: So the fact that he's playing pretty well in year

827
00:40:25,000 --> 00:40:26,040
Speaker 3: two I think is encouraging.

828
00:40:26,160 --> 00:40:28,319
Speaker 2: All Right, let's hear from everybody out there. Like I said,

829
00:40:28,440 --> 00:40:30,719
Speaker 2: lots of names that I'm sure you're upset we haven't

830
00:40:30,719 --> 00:40:33,239
Speaker 2: talked about, but you tell us, you know who were

831
00:40:33,239 --> 00:40:36,120
Speaker 2: missing there. And in regards to summer League standouts, because

832
00:40:36,120 --> 00:40:39,319
Speaker 2: I wanted to slip this in, odds are out for

833
00:40:39,400 --> 00:40:42,759
Speaker 2: most improved player of the year. The list is very long.

834
00:40:42,800 --> 00:40:46,120
Speaker 2: I think there was like one hundred names we've shouldn't

835
00:40:46,120 --> 00:40:49,000
Speaker 2: it be every player? Yeah, I guess so. Yeah, we've

836
00:40:49,040 --> 00:40:53,000
Speaker 2: only included anyone with you know, twenty to one odds here,

837
00:40:53,080 --> 00:40:55,960
Speaker 2: but the list for you podcast listeners. Jordan Poole is

838
00:40:56,000 --> 00:41:00,440
Speaker 2: the favorite to win MIP Most Improved seven to one odds,

839
00:41:00,480 --> 00:41:03,960
Speaker 2: followed very closely there by Mikhail Bridges. Then it's Shngon

840
00:41:04,600 --> 00:41:07,520
Speaker 2: Austin Reeves, both of those guys at fourteen to one,

841
00:41:07,920 --> 00:41:11,160
Speaker 2: Cad Cunningham sixteen to one, Scottie Barnes eighteen to one,

842
00:41:11,560 --> 00:41:14,320
Speaker 2: and then three guys at twenty to one, Josh Giddy,

843
00:41:14,600 --> 00:41:17,839
Speaker 2: Pallo Bancaro and Shaden Sharp. They're are a good old

844
00:41:17,840 --> 00:41:21,799
Speaker 2: Canadian play the music again. But yeah, and then I get,

845
00:41:21,800 --> 00:41:24,680
Speaker 2: like I said, a million guys after this, but this

846
00:41:24,760 --> 00:41:27,120
Speaker 2: shock you at all. Jordan Poole makes sense. You think

847
00:41:27,160 --> 00:41:28,680
Speaker 2: it should be someone else's favorite. What do you think

848
00:41:28,719 --> 00:41:29,959
Speaker 2: that's he had.

849
00:41:29,840 --> 00:41:33,240
Speaker 1: The best odds last year too, didn't he? Did he really?

850
00:41:33,760 --> 00:41:35,880
Speaker 1: Or was that sixth Man? Maybe it was six man

851
00:41:35,920 --> 00:41:38,680
Speaker 1: I'm thinking of, But I mean, I could see Pool

852
00:41:38,840 --> 00:41:40,879
Speaker 1: winning this thing. I think it's less about improving his game.

853
00:41:40,920 --> 00:41:45,080
Speaker 1: And more about improving his image. I think that's what

854
00:41:45,120 --> 00:41:47,759
Speaker 1: it would because he's he could be the winner of

855
00:41:47,760 --> 00:41:51,200
Speaker 1: this because he's a score last year. I think it's

856
00:41:51,239 --> 00:41:53,960
Speaker 1: easy to sort of forget that he was a twenty

857
00:41:53,960 --> 00:41:56,680
Speaker 1: four point per game guy as a starter, and so

858
00:41:57,280 --> 00:42:00,840
Speaker 1: his numbers will jump no matter what. Will they be

859
00:42:00,840 --> 00:42:03,399
Speaker 1: efficient enough, will the Wizards win enough? Because I think

860
00:42:03,440 --> 00:42:06,120
Speaker 1: that's part of improving the image. But yeah, he's a

861
00:42:06,160 --> 00:42:09,319
Speaker 1: twenty point per game guy overall because he mostly came

862
00:42:09,360 --> 00:42:11,160
Speaker 1: off the bench. So I think Pool's got a good shot,

863
00:42:11,160 --> 00:42:13,040
Speaker 1: and Chad and Sharp I think has a really good

864
00:42:13,040 --> 00:42:17,359
Speaker 1: shot as well because he's growing as a player and

865
00:42:17,440 --> 00:42:21,320
Speaker 1: he's gonna have opportunity. It sure feels like with the Blazers,

866
00:42:21,360 --> 00:42:24,239
Speaker 1: and he's so focused on winning the most improved Player

867
00:42:24,280 --> 00:42:26,640
Speaker 1: that he's not playing for Team Canada. He is just

868
00:42:27,719 --> 00:42:31,720
Speaker 1: I think he's got the package and so he's ready.

869
00:42:31,760 --> 00:42:33,759
Speaker 1: He also won't go in the slam Dunk contest because

870
00:42:33,760 --> 00:42:36,640
Speaker 1: he's so focused on the second half last year. He's

871
00:42:36,680 --> 00:42:37,399
Speaker 1: ready to get better.

872
00:42:37,440 --> 00:42:40,440
Speaker 2: I think Trey, who would you be zeroing in on

873
00:42:40,480 --> 00:42:41,200
Speaker 2: here for MIP?

874
00:42:41,640 --> 00:42:44,240
Speaker 3: I think the smart pick on here is Mikhale Bridges.

875
00:42:44,280 --> 00:42:47,840
Speaker 3: He's barely not the favorite with Jordan Poole, and I

876
00:42:47,880 --> 00:42:50,799
Speaker 3: think that when you just look at his splits last

877
00:42:50,880 --> 00:42:53,000
Speaker 3: year seventeen a game with Phoenix and then twenty six

878
00:42:53,120 --> 00:42:55,400
Speaker 3: a game with Brooklyn, He's going to be knocking on

879
00:42:55,400 --> 00:42:56,560
Speaker 3: the door of an All Star birth.

880
00:42:56,440 --> 00:42:58,200
Speaker 2: Which is a good way to win Most Improved Player

881
00:42:58,280 --> 00:42:59,040
Speaker 2: these days. Yep.

882
00:42:59,120 --> 00:43:01,760
Speaker 3: But further down the I would actually pick his Polo Bancaro.

883
00:43:01,920 --> 00:43:03,680
Speaker 3: I think he could be an All Star this year.

884
00:43:04,040 --> 00:43:06,480
Speaker 3: I'm really bullish on this guy, and at twenty to one,

885
00:43:06,840 --> 00:43:08,920
Speaker 3: he's still the best player on the Magic. They were

886
00:43:08,960 --> 00:43:11,239
Speaker 3: really solid in the second half of the season last year.

887
00:43:11,239 --> 00:43:13,799
Speaker 3: Who knows how much of that is real, but I

888
00:43:13,840 --> 00:43:16,399
Speaker 3: do think the Magic are getting better and Paolo coming

889
00:43:16,440 --> 00:43:17,959
Speaker 3: off a Rookie of the Year, that'd be pretty weird

890
00:43:18,280 --> 00:43:20,280
Speaker 3: to win Rookie of the Year follow my Most Improved

891
00:43:20,400 --> 00:43:21,040
Speaker 3: It's tough.

892
00:43:21,080 --> 00:43:22,440
Speaker 2: That'll be his biggest obstacle this.

893
00:43:22,400 --> 00:43:24,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, but if he makes the All Star Game averages

894
00:43:24,200 --> 00:43:25,759
Speaker 3: twenty five a game, I think he's in the mix.

895
00:43:25,920 --> 00:43:27,680
Speaker 2: Yeah. I like the Bridges pick. If I had to

896
00:43:27,680 --> 00:43:29,799
Speaker 2: put money on anyone, I guess I also have a

897
00:43:29,840 --> 00:43:31,480
Speaker 2: bet with one of you. Is it you or is

898
00:43:31,520 --> 00:43:33,400
Speaker 2: it you about who's going to score more on the Wizards,

899
00:43:33,440 --> 00:43:36,600
Speaker 2: Pool or Kuzma, I can't remember it was you. Yeah,

900
00:43:36,640 --> 00:43:39,640
Speaker 2: So I would lean towards Bridges because the way this

901
00:43:39,680 --> 00:43:41,640
Speaker 2: award has been going Tray, you nailed it. It's like

902
00:43:42,040 --> 00:43:44,960
Speaker 2: that jump to oh wow, you're an All Star and

903
00:43:45,080 --> 00:43:47,959
Speaker 2: especially in your first hey, now you're an All Star

904
00:43:48,719 --> 00:43:51,080
Speaker 2: smash mouth most improved yeaher in the NBA. And I

905
00:43:51,120 --> 00:43:54,120
Speaker 2: think Bridges has a great chance to be won, as

906
00:43:54,160 --> 00:43:57,120
Speaker 2: he showed when he went over to Brooklyn. So yeah,

907
00:43:57,239 --> 00:43:58,799
Speaker 2: I would lean into this guy. I mean, if he's

908
00:43:58,800 --> 00:44:01,960
Speaker 2: averaging twenty five and maybe the nets are still solid

909
00:44:02,000 --> 00:44:04,640
Speaker 2: like they you know, held on last year, then yeah,

910
00:44:04,640 --> 00:44:07,000
Speaker 2: he would probably win this. But I guess if Pool scoring,

911
00:44:07,800 --> 00:44:10,640
Speaker 2: I don't know, twenty nine a game, that's gonna look

912
00:44:10,680 --> 00:44:12,759
Speaker 2: good in some eyes of the voters. But you tell

913
00:44:12,840 --> 00:44:15,920
Speaker 2: us who you got for way too early for Scotty

914
00:44:16,040 --> 00:44:20,080
Speaker 2: Parks player, No, no, I don't. He's getting the ball

915
00:44:20,120 --> 00:44:23,000
Speaker 2: a lot, Darko's hooking him up. That's true, that's true.

916
00:44:23,760 --> 00:44:26,680
Speaker 3: Eighteen one he did it smart, he won Rookie of

917
00:44:26,680 --> 00:44:28,759
Speaker 3: the Year. Then he had the struggle yeah in the

918
00:44:28,800 --> 00:44:31,839
Speaker 3: year too, So now he can become the most improved player.

919
00:44:31,840 --> 00:44:35,600
Speaker 2: It's kind of like the Julius Randall method. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

920
00:44:35,640 --> 00:44:37,319
Speaker 2: Like when you look at this list that we had,

921
00:44:37,400 --> 00:44:40,440
Speaker 2: it's like who who played the most poorly or who

922
00:44:40,640 --> 00:44:42,680
Speaker 2: who's rep took the biggest hit? Pool was a great one,

923
00:44:42,680 --> 00:44:45,560
Speaker 2: which is why he's your favorite. Maybe Kate is there

924
00:44:45,600 --> 00:44:48,800
Speaker 2: because obviously he's the unknown injured in the unknown. And

925
00:44:48,840 --> 00:44:51,400
Speaker 2: then probably it's Scottie in terms of like having a

926
00:44:51,440 --> 00:44:54,960
Speaker 2: disappointing year in a second season. Yeah, because the other guys, like,

927
00:44:55,000 --> 00:44:57,040
Speaker 2: you know, feels like, you know, they're respected, Reeves and

928
00:44:57,080 --> 00:45:00,200
Speaker 2: shem Gun and Giddy for sure and Polo wan brook

929
00:45:00,200 --> 00:45:02,600
Speaker 2: of the Year. So it's a tough one, always a difficult,

930
00:45:03,040 --> 00:45:04,560
Speaker 2: difficult prediction when we get to it.

931
00:45:04,800 --> 00:45:07,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's why I didn't pick Bridges because I already

932
00:45:07,640 --> 00:45:10,800
Speaker 1: have him in sort of in my eyes, he's already

933
00:45:10,880 --> 00:45:14,120
Speaker 1: up there in star level. But as far as yeah,

934
00:45:13,880 --> 00:45:18,439
Speaker 1: the general NBA, I'm sure he he isn't quite yet.

935
00:45:18,520 --> 00:45:20,839
Speaker 1: So yeah he could. He could easily pop twenty five

936
00:45:20,880 --> 00:45:22,800
Speaker 1: like he did when he was with Brooklyn and Scotty.

937
00:45:22,880 --> 00:45:25,040
Speaker 1: I wonder Scotty scores enough even though he'll have the

938
00:45:25,040 --> 00:45:27,799
Speaker 1: ball in his hands to win this thing. But he

939
00:45:27,840 --> 00:45:29,920
Speaker 1: will improve this year, that's for sure.

940
00:45:30,239 --> 00:45:32,359
Speaker 2: How much does he improve the raptors is the real

941
00:45:32,800 --> 00:45:35,440
Speaker 2: key component there to his chances. If there, if they

942
00:45:35,560 --> 00:45:37,719
Speaker 2: shock a lot of people and are back to being

943
00:45:37,719 --> 00:45:40,240
Speaker 2: you know, a fifty plus win team, fifty five wins,

944
00:45:40,239 --> 00:45:42,560
Speaker 2: then and he's and he's the lead point guard or

945
00:45:42,560 --> 00:45:45,399
Speaker 2: the lead ball hinter, then yeah, I could definitely see

946
00:45:45,400 --> 00:45:46,160
Speaker 2: a case for him.

947
00:45:46,280 --> 00:45:48,680
Speaker 1: And if hope so yeah, if there was a most

948
00:45:48,680 --> 00:45:52,680
Speaker 1: improved vibes could be the raptors. If he's smiling again,

949
00:45:53,239 --> 00:45:57,799
Speaker 1: most increased vibes, higher vibes than last year. Scotty could

950
00:45:57,880 --> 00:46:01,839
Speaker 1: get the benefit of the debt there or get all

951
00:46:01,880 --> 00:46:03,040
Speaker 1: the credit for it.

952
00:46:04,640 --> 00:46:08,080
Speaker 2: Let's start wrapping up this Drop podcast with some rapid

953
00:46:08,440 --> 00:46:12,080
Speaker 2: fire fun. I got the questions, you guys got the answers.

954
00:46:12,080 --> 00:46:15,680
Speaker 2: First one. During a recent panel organized by the NBA,

955
00:46:16,200 --> 00:46:20,080
Speaker 2: Jerry West discussed the difference that he sees in the

956
00:46:20,160 --> 00:46:24,040
Speaker 2: league today and the overall competitiveness of its players. While

957
00:46:24,080 --> 00:46:27,560
Speaker 2: most athletes embraced the dog mentality, Jerry West he took

958
00:46:27,600 --> 00:46:30,480
Speaker 2: it a step further, saying, quote, I was not afraid.

959
00:46:30,920 --> 00:46:33,560
Speaker 2: Everyone talks about being a dog, Well, I was a

960
00:46:33,600 --> 00:46:37,839
Speaker 2: wolf I used to eat dogs. End quote bars from

961
00:46:37,880 --> 00:46:39,600
Speaker 2: Jerry West There pretty good. But I wanted to know,

962
00:46:39,920 --> 00:46:43,280
Speaker 2: what are you most competitive at fasts?

963
00:46:44,719 --> 00:46:48,560
Speaker 1: I used to eat dogs. I will say the NYT

964
00:46:48,840 --> 00:46:52,560
Speaker 1: spelling Bee. I always got to get to genus before

965
00:46:52,560 --> 00:46:55,520
Speaker 1: I turn it off. There's no way I turn it off.

966
00:46:55,760 --> 00:46:58,359
Speaker 1: I shut it down. I'll stay in bed all night.

967
00:46:59,440 --> 00:47:00,520
Speaker 1: I don't care. I love it.

968
00:47:00,600 --> 00:47:03,080
Speaker 2: I don't care, and generally.

969
00:47:02,719 --> 00:47:05,360
Speaker 1: Do yeah, sometimes don't for sure. Sometimes I do not.

970
00:47:06,000 --> 00:47:09,200
Speaker 1: Sometimes they're just damn hard, But I try.

971
00:47:09,960 --> 00:47:13,160
Speaker 3: You ever get it's a queen Bee status. You get

972
00:47:13,200 --> 00:47:14,160
Speaker 3: every single word.

973
00:47:14,360 --> 00:47:16,400
Speaker 1: Oh no, I don't think I've ever done.

974
00:47:16,160 --> 00:47:19,120
Speaker 3: That special unlocked level. I've only done it once. We

975
00:47:19,200 --> 00:47:20,480
Speaker 3: do it every single night as well.

976
00:47:21,040 --> 00:47:22,680
Speaker 2: You're talking about the one where there's the letter in

977
00:47:22,680 --> 00:47:24,640
Speaker 2: the middle and it's like the little hexagon or whatever

978
00:47:24,680 --> 00:47:26,080
Speaker 2: that is. Yeah, okay, that is fun.

979
00:47:26,160 --> 00:47:26,600
Speaker 1: Queen Bee.

980
00:47:26,640 --> 00:47:27,640
Speaker 2: Huh, queen Bee.

981
00:47:28,280 --> 00:47:30,320
Speaker 3: That's a great one. Oh Man, spelling Bee is awesome.

982
00:47:30,600 --> 00:47:32,680
Speaker 3: Everybody wanted to talk about WORDL and spelling Bee was

983
00:47:32,719 --> 00:47:36,160
Speaker 3: better the entire time. Man who knew thing I'm most

984
00:47:36,200 --> 00:47:38,880
Speaker 3: competitive at right now? I've had to actually change my

985
00:47:38,880 --> 00:47:41,680
Speaker 3: life because once upon a time I heard JD telling

986
00:47:41,719 --> 00:47:43,239
Speaker 3: his young son this must have been more than ten

987
00:47:43,320 --> 00:47:43,719
Speaker 3: years ago.

988
00:47:44,239 --> 00:47:47,200
Speaker 2: Trey is very competitive. I don't want to be known

989
00:47:47,239 --> 00:47:49,120
Speaker 2: as that. Oh so I've had a tamp it down.

990
00:47:49,200 --> 00:47:52,040
Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't know. I'm just getting older, man,

991
00:47:51,880 --> 00:47:52,960
Speaker 2: I don't I want to be mellow.

992
00:47:53,040 --> 00:47:54,000
Speaker 1: It was meant as a company.

993
00:47:54,080 --> 00:47:55,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, but you don't want to be a temper boy.

994
00:47:55,520 --> 00:47:57,520
Speaker 2: I want to be a tempo but you want to

995
00:47:57,520 --> 00:48:00,560
Speaker 2: be sometimes on a temper boy. And honestly, I'm still

996
00:48:00,640 --> 00:48:01,360
Speaker 2: very competitive.

997
00:48:01,640 --> 00:48:04,880
Speaker 3: Number one most competitive thing these days playing tennis with Laura,

998
00:48:06,040 --> 00:48:08,799
Speaker 3: because we're all we're pretty even, Like she has more

999
00:48:09,080 --> 00:48:11,520
Speaker 3: skills than I do, Like she takes lessons, she knows

1000
00:48:11,520 --> 00:48:14,879
Speaker 3: how to do stuff. But my advantage is I don't

1001
00:48:14,920 --> 00:48:16,799
Speaker 3: care if I get hurt. She's like, I'm not going

1002
00:48:16,880 --> 00:48:18,560
Speaker 3: to sprain an ankle playing tennis. I was like, I

1003
00:48:18,600 --> 00:48:20,799
Speaker 3: will sprain an ankle if it means I beat you.

1004
00:48:20,960 --> 00:48:22,359
Speaker 3: And guess who's undefeated so far.

1005
00:48:23,800 --> 00:48:25,160
Speaker 2: I thought she was gonna beat me the first time

1006
00:48:25,200 --> 00:48:28,920
Speaker 2: we played this year. So did she? But you rally

1007
00:48:29,040 --> 00:48:31,759
Speaker 2: came back, yes, yes, Well what do you play just

1008
00:48:31,800 --> 00:48:33,480
Speaker 2: one set? You played two sets.

1009
00:48:33,400 --> 00:48:36,239
Speaker 3: Best of seven usually, I mean we played four. I

1010
00:48:36,239 --> 00:48:38,640
Speaker 3: mean that's what it is in men's right, In men's singles,

1011
00:48:38,640 --> 00:48:39,839
Speaker 3: you gotta win four, you gotta win.

1012
00:48:39,760 --> 00:48:43,640
Speaker 2: Five out, so you go win three. You guys are

1013
00:48:43,719 --> 00:48:44,279
Speaker 2: I guess I'm just do.

1014
00:48:47,560 --> 00:48:47,759
Speaker 1: JD.

1015
00:48:47,880 --> 00:48:49,520
Speaker 2: What about you? What are you most competitive that?

1016
00:48:51,320 --> 00:48:53,560
Speaker 4: I don't get to do it often? But go karting

1017
00:48:54,120 --> 00:48:57,360
Speaker 4: with kids, I have to win. I have to be

1018
00:48:57,440 --> 00:48:59,560
Speaker 4: in the front, interesting, I have to pass people.

1019
00:49:00,320 --> 00:49:01,960
Speaker 2: You're a better driver than children.

1020
00:49:02,160 --> 00:49:02,520
Speaker 1: Yeah?

1021
00:49:02,600 --> 00:49:04,480
Speaker 4: Yeah, And there are some places here in Atlanta that

1022
00:49:04,560 --> 00:49:08,839
Speaker 4: actually keep track, you know, pardon the pun, but when

1023
00:49:08,840 --> 00:49:12,200
Speaker 4: you're going around and you'll see your results, and I

1024
00:49:12,280 --> 00:49:13,359
Speaker 4: have to be the number one?

1025
00:49:14,239 --> 00:49:16,120
Speaker 2: Or what if you get a shitty cart? Has that

1026
00:49:16,160 --> 00:49:16,799
Speaker 2: ever happened to you?

1027
00:49:16,960 --> 00:49:17,160
Speaker 1: Yes?

1028
00:49:17,200 --> 00:49:20,600
Speaker 4: Of course I'm a big fat guy get racing against

1029
00:49:20,760 --> 00:49:23,120
Speaker 4: kids like little kids, But I still have to be

1030
00:49:23,200 --> 00:49:24,359
Speaker 4: number one, like.

1031
00:49:24,520 --> 00:49:25,879
Speaker 2: You dirty out there on the tray.

1032
00:49:25,960 --> 00:49:28,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, cut everybody off. I don't.

1033
00:49:28,360 --> 00:49:30,600
Speaker 4: I'm like Trey. Actually, I don't care if I get

1034
00:49:30,680 --> 00:49:33,719
Speaker 4: hurt everybody else. I don't know about this, but I

1035
00:49:33,760 --> 00:49:35,520
Speaker 4: will fly off the track if I have to.

1036
00:49:36,480 --> 00:49:39,319
Speaker 2: Man. Great answers, guys. Sometimes you write these questions. You're like,

1037
00:49:39,400 --> 00:49:40,960
Speaker 2: I don't know, ever know? What are we gonna get

1038
00:49:40,960 --> 00:49:43,200
Speaker 2: out of this one. It's knocked it out of the park.

1039
00:49:43,239 --> 00:49:46,600
Speaker 2: All three great answers. Next one here, Burger King in

1040
00:49:46,680 --> 00:49:51,400
Speaker 2: Thailand has introduced a burger with twenty slices of American cheese,

1041
00:49:51,680 --> 00:49:57,879
Speaker 2: yes twenty, no meat. It's called the Real Cheeseburger. Here's

1042
00:49:57,920 --> 00:50:01,440
Speaker 2: a picture of this whopper fart me for all of

1043
00:50:01,440 --> 00:50:05,520
Speaker 2: you joining us on YouTube and for you podcast listeners,

1044
00:50:05,560 --> 00:50:08,480
Speaker 2: just imagine a two pieces of bun from a burger

1045
00:50:08,480 --> 00:50:12,000
Speaker 2: and twenty slices of American cheese in the middle. It's

1046
00:50:12,200 --> 00:50:15,319
Speaker 2: crazy looking. I'm not still one hundred percent convinced this

1047
00:50:15,360 --> 00:50:19,280
Speaker 2: is real, but I want to know what's a personal

1048
00:50:19,320 --> 00:50:22,520
Speaker 2: menu hack, either from a restaurant that you asked for

1049
00:50:22,760 --> 00:50:24,960
Speaker 2: or at home that you swear by.

1050
00:50:25,760 --> 00:50:27,879
Speaker 1: I hated a cheese sandwich when it was one piece

1051
00:50:27,920 --> 00:50:32,680
Speaker 1: of American I don't know if this is a hack.

1052
00:50:32,760 --> 00:50:38,799
Speaker 1: I eat my fajitas separately. It's a deconstructed oh okay,

1053
00:50:39,680 --> 00:50:41,960
Speaker 1: like I will never. I don't like wrapping them. I

1054
00:50:42,040 --> 00:50:46,440
Speaker 1: like taste in every sauteed part, every piece of I

1055
00:50:46,480 --> 00:50:50,520
Speaker 1: go to Souperica, a local spot here. You know, text

1056
00:50:50,560 --> 00:50:54,880
Speaker 1: max type stuff, but good stuff, and it's tastier but

1057
00:50:54,920 --> 00:50:59,160
Speaker 1: you taste every part, the sour krem that part separately,

1058
00:50:59,280 --> 00:51:00,960
Speaker 1: every part separately, but.

1059
00:51:00,960 --> 00:51:03,839
Speaker 2: You will hold on At the restaurant, would you order?

1060
00:51:04,360 --> 00:51:07,280
Speaker 2: Would you order the sahita and then take it apart?

1061
00:51:07,719 --> 00:51:09,200
Speaker 2: Or are you just getting a bowl version.

1062
00:51:09,400 --> 00:51:11,360
Speaker 1: It's like, you know, you get served at a restaurant,

1063
00:51:11,360 --> 00:51:14,640
Speaker 1: they're already separated. No, they're already separated, and you just

1064
00:51:14,800 --> 00:51:15,360
Speaker 1: I gotcha.

1065
00:51:15,400 --> 00:51:17,560
Speaker 2: You're not gonna make it basically.

1066
00:51:17,160 --> 00:51:21,360
Speaker 4: Okay, it's a non constructed that's a better way to

1067
00:51:21,360 --> 00:51:21,680
Speaker 4: put it.

1068
00:51:21,760 --> 00:51:22,080
Speaker 2: Okay.

1069
00:51:22,960 --> 00:51:28,600
Speaker 1: Tortilla by itself, Yeah, not usually, Sometimes tortillas, you know,

1070
00:51:30,080 --> 00:51:31,680
Speaker 1: I know you've been making them with bacon fat. You've

1071
00:51:31,719 --> 00:51:32,680
Speaker 1: been making with a bacon fat.

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00:51:32,719 --> 00:51:33,399
Speaker 2: Gotta use lard.

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00:51:33,480 --> 00:51:34,359
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's so good.

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00:51:34,880 --> 00:51:40,839
Speaker 3: Yeah, I always thought that restaurant was called Sub America Super.

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00:51:42,040 --> 00:51:43,239
Speaker 2: Personal Menu Hack.

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00:51:43,960 --> 00:51:48,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, poor Man's nachas, chips, shredded cheese, saracha, throw it

1077
00:51:48,200 --> 00:51:49,880
Speaker 3: in the microwave for forty two seconds.

1078
00:51:50,040 --> 00:51:51,480
Speaker 2: You're eating at eleven thirty at night.

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00:51:53,040 --> 00:51:57,560
Speaker 3: Definitely, that's like the very bottom of the barrel of

1080
00:51:57,600 --> 00:51:59,480
Speaker 3: something you could consider nachos.

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00:51:59,640 --> 00:52:04,400
Speaker 2: It has cheese, it has sauce, but even the microwave pirty.

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00:52:04,840 --> 00:52:06,440
Speaker 2: Some people at least put it in the oven.

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00:52:07,400 --> 00:52:09,200
Speaker 3: Well yeah, yeah, sure, when I go for the rich

1084
00:52:09,280 --> 00:52:12,400
Speaker 3: man's like, it's not the king's ground natchos okay, but

1085
00:52:12,440 --> 00:52:14,360
Speaker 3: the rich man's chose that's going to the oven.

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00:52:14,560 --> 00:52:15,440
Speaker 2: That's well prepared.

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00:52:15,560 --> 00:52:18,040
Speaker 3: This is uh, this is how are we getting through

1088
00:52:18,040 --> 00:52:20,160
Speaker 3: the second half of the late game tonight? I've thrown

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00:52:20,200 --> 00:52:23,120
Speaker 3: a bunch of chips on this plate, doesn't matter what

1090
00:52:23,200 --> 00:52:25,400
Speaker 3: size they are. The worst part though, is if you

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00:52:25,440 --> 00:52:26,800
Speaker 3: let it go a little too long and then like

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00:52:26,840 --> 00:52:29,000
Speaker 3: the cheese gets stuck to the plate. Yeah, when it

1093
00:52:29,040 --> 00:52:31,800
Speaker 3: turns from cheese to like schlac.

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00:52:32,160 --> 00:52:35,360
Speaker 2: How does that happen? You can't go too deep? Have

1095
00:52:35,440 --> 00:52:37,080
Speaker 2: you always wondered when you've done this, because I've done

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00:52:37,120 --> 00:52:40,200
Speaker 2: that too a number of times. Isn't the smarter way

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00:52:40,239 --> 00:52:42,440
Speaker 2: to do it? Really? Just to warm up the cheese

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00:52:42,560 --> 00:52:45,480
Speaker 2: and have like a dipping cheese and then we can

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00:52:45,520 --> 00:52:52,399
Speaker 2: then use our chips dipping cheese. Yeah, yeah, you got it.

1100
00:52:52,719 --> 00:52:56,760
Speaker 2: The cheese, pull the cheese. Yeah, I know, it's so good, Jadie,

1101
00:52:56,760 --> 00:52:57,600
Speaker 2: what's your menu hack?

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00:52:58,120 --> 00:53:00,719
Speaker 4: I mean, I don't know if they anybody does this.

1103
00:53:00,800 --> 00:53:03,200
Speaker 4: I've never heard anybody do this, but I'm sure it's

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00:53:03,320 --> 00:53:07,799
Speaker 4: very common you've heard of peanut butter and jam or jelly, yes,

1105
00:53:09,239 --> 00:53:14,760
Speaker 4: and you've heard of natilla, right, Yeah, I like, what

1106
00:53:14,960 --> 00:53:17,920
Speaker 4: if I'm having very rarely, if I'm having toast with

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00:53:18,200 --> 00:53:21,640
Speaker 4: natilla crunchy peanut butter layer underneath underneath.

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00:53:21,640 --> 00:53:22,439
Speaker 1: Nobody does this.

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00:53:22,760 --> 00:53:25,120
Speaker 4: Okay, so you're putting the peanut but peanut butter and

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00:53:25,160 --> 00:53:29,400
Speaker 4: then yeah, I'm putting the natella over the crunchy peanut.

1111
00:53:29,400 --> 00:53:30,920
Speaker 4: But it's a peanut butter peanut.

1112
00:53:31,040 --> 00:53:31,920
Speaker 1: It's like Reese's.

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00:53:32,040 --> 00:53:35,640
Speaker 4: It's like a seventies Reese's Peanut Butter Cups commercial. But nobody,

1114
00:53:35,719 --> 00:53:38,640
Speaker 4: I've never heard anybody do this, which.

1115
00:53:38,480 --> 00:53:43,279
Speaker 2: Is a little shocking. Yeah, yeah, that sounds.

1116
00:53:43,000 --> 00:53:45,759
Speaker 4: Good, But I'm telling you go home and try it.

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00:53:46,440 --> 00:53:48,440
Speaker 2: Do you think it's important that the peanut butter is

1118
00:53:48,480 --> 00:53:51,439
Speaker 2: the base and then the nutella on top or doesn't matter?

1119
00:53:51,920 --> 00:53:52,279
Speaker 1: I do?

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00:53:52,480 --> 00:53:57,200
Speaker 4: Yes, Okay, yes, because the natilla is creamier and easier

1121
00:53:57,200 --> 00:53:59,759
Speaker 4: to spread over, and I prefer a crunchy peanut butter.

1122
00:54:00,480 --> 00:54:04,359
Speaker 2: You're not team smooth. Hell no, all right, great hats

1123
00:54:04,680 --> 00:54:08,360
Speaker 2: everybody tried those little items there from the guys to

1124
00:54:08,400 --> 00:54:11,520
Speaker 2: try the final one. It took a little longer than expected,

1125
00:54:11,760 --> 00:54:14,160
Speaker 2: but I think it's safe to say that we've all

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00:54:14,200 --> 00:54:17,120
Speaker 2: recovered from NBA Summer League. We had a blast out there.

1127
00:54:17,400 --> 00:54:19,680
Speaker 2: I want to know, besides the meet and greet with

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00:54:19,719 --> 00:54:22,040
Speaker 2: some of the best fans in the world, what was

1129
00:54:22,080 --> 00:54:24,680
Speaker 2: your favorite part about this year's trip to Vegas. It

1130
00:54:24,680 --> 00:54:26,960
Speaker 2: could be basketball related, it could not be. You can

1131
00:54:27,000 --> 00:54:27,799
Speaker 2: gore anywhere you want.

1132
00:54:28,600 --> 00:54:31,680
Speaker 1: Mine is basketball related, but also not. Jade and Ivy,

1133
00:54:31,719 --> 00:54:34,880
Speaker 1: Piston's guard was chilling in the same pool as us.

1134
00:54:36,160 --> 00:54:39,400
Speaker 1: That just really elevated my pool experience. For Jade and

1135
00:54:39,480 --> 00:54:42,920
Speaker 1: Ivy to be in the same pool, just to recognize

1136
00:54:42,920 --> 00:54:46,040
Speaker 1: it as that good of a pool. Yeah, like a

1137
00:54:46,080 --> 00:54:48,239
Speaker 1: basketball player who could choose any pool in the world.

1138
00:54:48,320 --> 00:54:52,000
Speaker 1: You could have a private pool choosing this, You could.

1139
00:54:51,920 --> 00:54:54,000
Speaker 2: Choose any pool in the world. But you're here with us.

1140
00:54:54,320 --> 00:54:58,920
Speaker 3: I appreciate it, shared water with Jade and Ivy, all right,

1141
00:54:59,520 --> 00:54:59,920
Speaker 3: I'm with you.

1142
00:55:00,040 --> 00:55:00,680
Speaker 2: That was exciting.

1143
00:55:01,160 --> 00:55:01,520
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1144
00:55:01,560 --> 00:55:03,600
Speaker 3: I also loved that we inducted a couple of new

1145
00:55:03,640 --> 00:55:08,280
Speaker 3: Bamboo boys. Yeah, Jerome joined us at the pool obviously

1146
00:55:08,360 --> 00:55:08,879
Speaker 3: Jade and Ivy.

1147
00:55:08,920 --> 00:55:09,719
Speaker 2: He's a Bamboo boy.

1148
00:55:09,800 --> 00:55:12,520
Speaker 3: Now our buddy Will and I think I wasn't there,

1149
00:55:12,560 --> 00:55:15,640
Speaker 3: But are you guys willing to consider Zach Harper a

1150
00:55:15,719 --> 00:55:16,279
Speaker 3: Bamboo Boy.

1151
00:55:16,600 --> 00:55:19,160
Speaker 2: It was quick, It was brief, okay, but he was

1152
00:55:19,200 --> 00:55:21,919
Speaker 2: there with us at the pool. He's in. I've got

1153
00:55:21,960 --> 00:55:24,319
Speaker 2: no problem with that. He is one hundred percent in hell.

1154
00:55:24,440 --> 00:55:25,440
Speaker 2: Jason Quick too.

1155
00:55:25,520 --> 00:55:28,000
Speaker 3: Sure if you were in the pool with us when

1156
00:55:28,040 --> 00:55:29,759
Speaker 3: we're all you're in the Bamboo Boys.

1157
00:55:29,800 --> 00:55:30,000
Speaker 2: Great.

1158
00:55:30,040 --> 00:55:32,680
Speaker 3: We got a ten man rotation. Then we got you know,

1159
00:55:32,880 --> 00:55:34,839
Speaker 3: the four of us. We got Matt, we got Lee,

1160
00:55:34,920 --> 00:55:36,640
Speaker 3: and now we're adding Jerome, Will, Zach.

1161
00:55:36,600 --> 00:55:37,360
Speaker 2: And Jason Quick.

1162
00:55:38,200 --> 00:55:41,759
Speaker 3: A ten man rotation for the Bamboo Boys. Favorite part

1163
00:55:41,760 --> 00:55:44,000
Speaker 3: about this year's trip, I feel like we ate awesome.

1164
00:55:44,800 --> 00:55:46,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, better than we normally do.

1165
00:55:46,200 --> 00:55:49,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, definitely. We were trying a great variety of foods.

1166
00:55:49,120 --> 00:55:50,840
Speaker 3: We found a couple of food halls, which seemed to

1167
00:55:50,880 --> 00:55:53,680
Speaker 3: be a new thing going around in Vegas, and then

1168
00:55:53,719 --> 00:55:55,920
Speaker 3: we had an incredible meal at best Friend at the

1169
00:55:55,960 --> 00:55:56,760
Speaker 3: Park MGM.

1170
00:55:57,480 --> 00:55:58,200
Speaker 2: I was telling some.

1171
00:55:58,160 --> 00:56:01,560
Speaker 3: People about our trip and people, are you, what's the

1172
00:56:01,600 --> 00:56:06,319
Speaker 3: best friend Roychroi? Yeah, Roy Choi and us Bamboo Boys,

1173
00:56:06,320 --> 00:56:07,120
Speaker 3: we are best friends.

1174
00:56:08,239 --> 00:56:12,360
Speaker 2: Highly recommend that very grade vibe, fun scene and the

1175
00:56:12,400 --> 00:56:15,759
Speaker 2: food was phenomenal. JD take us home here. What was

1176
00:56:15,760 --> 00:56:16,600
Speaker 2: your favorite part.

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00:56:16,719 --> 00:56:19,399
Speaker 4: It was right off the bat. We had a very

1178
00:56:19,440 --> 00:56:23,480
Speaker 4: difficult time getting there. Our plane broke down. We went

1179
00:56:23,520 --> 00:56:26,920
Speaker 4: to Memphis. We got very lucky with the rebook. Anyways,

1180
00:56:26,960 --> 00:56:29,839
Speaker 4: that's not the story. We get to the hotel. We're

1181
00:56:29,880 --> 00:56:33,840
Speaker 4: sitting in the bar and Fred Katz comes in hot

1182
00:56:34,600 --> 00:56:38,160
Speaker 4: he sits next to us hot cats, and he spends

1183
00:56:38,160 --> 00:56:41,240
Speaker 4: about twenty minutes breaking down his top five fruits.

1184
00:56:41,520 --> 00:56:43,840
Speaker 2: Yep. It was incredible.

1185
00:56:43,920 --> 00:56:47,440
Speaker 4: Yeah, but I have never met anyone so passionate about fruit.

1186
00:56:48,640 --> 00:56:50,120
Speaker 2: No, no, he loves fruit.

1187
00:56:50,480 --> 00:56:50,719
Speaker 1: Fruit.

1188
00:56:50,840 --> 00:56:52,600
Speaker 2: It was like this he was saying, like he was

1189
00:56:52,600 --> 00:56:53,839
Speaker 2: talking a big fruit game.

1190
00:56:54,120 --> 00:56:54,359
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1191
00:56:54,480 --> 00:56:56,319
Speaker 2: Right, but then we were like, hold on, you know,

1192
00:56:56,560 --> 00:56:59,840
Speaker 2: we're gonna asked like a million questions. Yeah, because I

1193
00:56:59,840 --> 00:57:01,920
Speaker 2: was like, how how really into fruit? Are you?

1194
00:57:03,360 --> 00:57:07,680
Speaker 4: Very very He was late coming to the bar because

1195
00:57:07,719 --> 00:57:11,120
Speaker 4: he was arranging his fruit in a bowl that he

1196
00:57:11,160 --> 00:57:15,319
Speaker 4: had picked up from Whole Foods before he got like

1197
00:57:15,480 --> 00:57:18,680
Speaker 4: from the airports. He pulled Ali Alis the airport Whole

1198
00:57:18,720 --> 00:57:22,080
Speaker 4: Foods hotel, and he had so much fruit. He was

1199
00:57:22,120 --> 00:57:27,520
Speaker 4: like emptying potted plants to throw his mangoes and what

1200
00:57:27,640 --> 00:57:29,360
Speaker 4: Actually he didn't like that guy.

1201
00:57:29,480 --> 00:57:30,200
Speaker 2: That guy said.

1202
00:57:31,840 --> 00:57:38,880
Speaker 1: Berries put them in his ice bucket. Yeah, but I

1203
00:57:38,920 --> 00:57:41,560
Speaker 1: think it was. It was also he loved him so much.

1204
00:57:41,600 --> 00:57:42,760
Speaker 1: He made it a decorative ice.

1205
00:57:42,800 --> 00:57:47,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, sprucing up the place. What were his top three?

1206
00:57:48,480 --> 00:57:51,520
Speaker 4: The top three I believe were berries, like, oh.

1207
00:57:51,480 --> 00:57:55,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, rasberry, very high and I love raspberries, and even

1208
00:57:55,440 --> 00:57:57,080
Speaker 2: I was like that's.

1209
00:57:56,840 --> 00:57:58,360
Speaker 1: Too high, too high.

1210
00:57:58,680 --> 00:58:01,280
Speaker 4: Yeah, I forgot a lot of berries up there.

1211
00:58:01,320 --> 00:58:04,040
Speaker 2: Well, he just like he was going away from the

1212
00:58:04,080 --> 00:58:04,760
Speaker 2: o G fruit.

1213
00:58:04,920 --> 00:58:06,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, just like, Okay.

1214
00:58:06,400 --> 00:58:11,160
Speaker 2: I get it, you want to be exotic. But yeah,

1215
00:58:11,560 --> 00:58:14,360
Speaker 2: he was talking trash about apples. He was straight up,

1216
00:58:15,360 --> 00:58:16,080
Speaker 2: that's insane.

1217
00:58:16,240 --> 00:58:17,080
Speaker 1: That's all they've done.

1218
00:58:17,240 --> 00:58:19,200
Speaker 2: The guy lives in the big apple.

1219
00:58:19,360 --> 00:58:22,600
Speaker 4: Yeah right, yeah, And he had a lot of caveats,

1220
00:58:22,640 --> 00:58:26,240
Speaker 4: like are we talking eating raw bacon with them.

1221
00:58:27,920 --> 00:58:28,360
Speaker 1: Apples?

1222
00:58:29,080 --> 00:58:31,320
Speaker 2: It's true. I mean you would ask him a question

1223
00:58:31,320 --> 00:58:33,440
Speaker 2: about fruit and he would have three other questions back

1224
00:58:33,480 --> 00:58:37,680
Speaker 2: to he's a reporter, he's a hardcore shout out to cats.

1225
00:58:37,680 --> 00:58:39,440
Speaker 2: All right, So that was your favorite part of Vegas

1226
00:58:39,680 --> 00:58:41,360
Speaker 2: talking to Fred CAATs about fruit.

1227
00:58:41,720 --> 00:58:44,600
Speaker 1: A lot of favorite parts.

1228
00:58:43,680 --> 00:58:47,920
Speaker 2: Just stuck well, I mean to stick with the favorite

1229
00:58:47,920 --> 00:58:51,400
Speaker 2: parts in Vegas involving Fred Kats. I did enjoy Trey

1230
00:58:51,440 --> 00:58:55,439
Speaker 2: Kirby and Fred CAATs at one particular athletic meet and greet,

1231
00:58:55,600 --> 00:58:58,439
Speaker 2: the two of them basically having a yelling match about

1232
00:58:58,520 --> 00:59:02,360
Speaker 2: Harry Potter characters and whether, I guess Fred Cat's whole

1233
00:59:02,400 --> 00:59:05,360
Speaker 2: thing was Harry Potter is the worst character in Harry

1234
00:59:05,400 --> 00:59:09,080
Speaker 2: Potter and he was team Snape. Is that right?

1235
00:59:09,480 --> 00:59:13,440
Speaker 3: I believe he started out saying, nobody reads Harry Potter

1236
00:59:13,800 --> 00:59:14,640
Speaker 3: for Harry Potter.

1237
00:59:14,760 --> 00:59:19,160
Speaker 2: They read it for Snape. Yeah, yeah, trade Trade took

1238
00:59:19,200 --> 00:59:21,880
Speaker 2: offense to it, but it ain't called several snape in

1239
00:59:21,920 --> 00:59:24,920
Speaker 2: the Chamber of Secrets. Some great points made from both sides.

1240
00:59:25,000 --> 00:59:28,080
Speaker 2: It was. It was a fun debate. It was good.

1241
00:59:28,160 --> 00:59:31,200
Speaker 3: I mean, we're in the early dog days of summer,

1242
00:59:31,240 --> 00:59:33,200
Speaker 3: but in the later dog days of summer we have

1243
00:59:33,200 --> 00:59:36,520
Speaker 3: to go full podcast Cat.

1244
00:59:35,840 --> 00:59:39,480
Speaker 2: Days when the dog days to the Cat's days or

1245
00:59:39,480 --> 00:59:41,680
Speaker 2: in the dog days of summer. But when it's Cat's days,

1246
00:59:42,240 --> 00:59:44,480
Speaker 2: the will fall from the tree. We will have them

1247
00:59:44,480 --> 00:59:47,040
Speaker 2: on Fred Katz to talk maybe some NBA, but a

1248
00:59:47,040 --> 00:59:49,800
Speaker 2: whole lot of Harry Potter and fruit. You can lock

1249
00:59:49,840 --> 00:59:52,200
Speaker 2: that in, all right, that's rapid fire, great job guys.

1250
00:59:52,400 --> 00:59:56,040
Speaker 2: As always, we'll call it there. That's the week for us,

1251
00:59:56,080 --> 00:59:58,120
Speaker 2: but we'll be back next week. I did see that

1252
00:59:58,520 --> 01:00:01,479
Speaker 2: some of these sports books I started releasing their over

1253
01:00:01,600 --> 01:00:06,640
Speaker 2: under team totals could be some content there, obviously dissecting

1254
01:00:06,680 --> 01:00:09,440
Speaker 2: those looking at some of the numbers, going how'd they

1255
01:00:09,440 --> 01:00:11,240
Speaker 2: get to that? Some of the teams are off the board,

1256
01:00:11,280 --> 01:00:14,080
Speaker 2: though still wisely they're like, I don't know what do

1257
01:00:14,160 --> 01:00:15,840
Speaker 2: we do with the sixers? What do we do with

1258
01:00:15,880 --> 01:00:17,200
Speaker 2: the heat? We don't even know who the hell's going

1259
01:00:17,280 --> 01:00:18,560
Speaker 2: to be on the teams, but we could do that.

1260
01:00:18,600 --> 01:00:20,080
Speaker 2: Next week we'll be back with a few shows what

1261
01:00:20,120 --> 01:00:22,560
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1267
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Speaker 2: trade goes down, hopefully we can jump on and immediately

1268
01:00:40,640 --> 01:00:44,280
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Speaker 2: time turn up. Love you guys, awesome.

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Speaker 1: Thanks for joining us and remember subscribe, but also drop

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Speaker 1: your top five fruit. Very interested. Wherever you're listening, hit

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Speaker 1: us up Top five Fruits Raise the weekend, people,