1 00:00:03,720 --> 00:00:07,080 Speaker 1: This is the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson 2 00:00:07,440 --> 00:00:09,640 Speaker 1: on your twenty four to seven Home of the Black 3 00:00:09,680 --> 00:00:24,119 Speaker 1: and Gold SNR Steelers Nation Radio. 4 00:00:24,200 --> 00:00:27,400 Speaker 2: We had some technical difficulties yesterday and the first day 5 00:00:27,440 --> 00:00:30,080 Speaker 2: back at the studio and well things didn't sound like 6 00:00:30,160 --> 00:00:31,720 Speaker 2: the way that they should sound. 7 00:00:31,840 --> 00:00:33,280 Speaker 3: Hopefully this sounds a little better. 8 00:00:33,320 --> 00:00:37,120 Speaker 2: I am Dale LOLLI he is Matt Williamson, and yes, 9 00:00:37,240 --> 00:00:38,520 Speaker 2: that was us yesterday. 10 00:00:38,800 --> 00:00:42,160 Speaker 4: Yeah, we spent all kinds of pearls of wisdom too, 11 00:00:42,200 --> 00:00:47,440 Speaker 4: but hopefully to get through it right. A lot of 12 00:00:47,479 --> 00:00:50,160 Speaker 4: tweets this morning, Yeah, what was that all about? 13 00:00:50,200 --> 00:00:52,479 Speaker 2: Social media was on fire with that. 14 00:00:53,600 --> 00:00:57,360 Speaker 3: I am not Buffalo Bill. I am not putting on 15 00:00:57,400 --> 00:00:57,720 Speaker 3: the lotion. 16 00:01:00,080 --> 00:01:02,080 Speaker 4: A couple of them. Yeah. 17 00:01:02,320 --> 00:01:06,120 Speaker 2: Anyways, so Matt. Today, Mike Tomlin held his press conference 18 00:01:06,160 --> 00:01:10,120 Speaker 2: and they've run up to the Steelers preseason finale against 19 00:01:10,160 --> 00:01:14,760 Speaker 2: the Atlanta Falcons on Thursday night and said that, well, 20 00:01:14,840 --> 00:01:17,200 Speaker 2: the plan is he's treating this like a normal third 21 00:01:17,240 --> 00:01:20,679 Speaker 2: preseason game. Basically, that's how he's approaching this, and that 22 00:01:20,760 --> 00:01:22,880 Speaker 2: means that while he's going to play the starters with 23 00:01:22,920 --> 00:01:26,000 Speaker 2: the exception Basically, what he said was anybody who's been 24 00:01:26,040 --> 00:01:29,240 Speaker 2: an all pro you're not playing. Okay, yes, fair enough, 25 00:01:29,280 --> 00:01:31,520 Speaker 2: So that eliminates basically four guys. 26 00:01:32,160 --> 00:01:35,960 Speaker 4: Three on defense. Four Okay, I thought maybe Nausea would 27 00:01:35,959 --> 00:01:36,840 Speaker 4: have been in that conversation. 28 00:01:36,840 --> 00:01:38,840 Speaker 3: He's a pro bowling. Well, we'll see about Naji. 29 00:01:38,959 --> 00:01:42,320 Speaker 2: I mean he may not play a lot. But yeah, 30 00:01:42,319 --> 00:01:46,560 Speaker 2: it's Pat Peterson. What make a Fitzpatrick? 31 00:01:46,720 --> 00:01:48,560 Speaker 4: Makes sense? But they deserve the day off. 32 00:01:48,640 --> 00:01:48,880 Speaker 3: Yeah. 33 00:01:49,080 --> 00:01:51,160 Speaker 4: I think we're just fine with where they're at. And 34 00:01:51,600 --> 00:01:53,240 Speaker 4: that means that you are going to get to the 35 00:01:53,240 --> 00:01:55,880 Speaker 4: finish line starting nine, I guess is more like it 36 00:01:56,360 --> 00:02:00,120 Speaker 4: and wonderful. They don't think they're gonna mind the break 37 00:02:00,200 --> 00:02:01,480 Speaker 4: or gather a lot of rust. 38 00:02:01,680 --> 00:02:01,960 Speaker 3: Yeah. 39 00:02:02,080 --> 00:02:04,800 Speaker 2: Now the offense, I think you'll see pretty much that 40 00:02:04,920 --> 00:02:07,560 Speaker 2: as in a hole. You know, we'll see if they 41 00:02:07,600 --> 00:02:09,960 Speaker 2: play Isaac sam all Away. I would expect even if 42 00:02:10,000 --> 00:02:12,080 Speaker 2: the offense does play, I wouldn't expect it to. 43 00:02:12,040 --> 00:02:13,720 Speaker 4: Play a lot, kind of like the last game. 44 00:02:13,800 --> 00:02:15,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think you know that the first team offense 45 00:02:15,919 --> 00:02:18,880 Speaker 2: has been on the field for like fifteen seventeen snaps 46 00:02:18,880 --> 00:02:19,480 Speaker 2: whatever it is. 47 00:02:20,320 --> 00:02:21,560 Speaker 4: It events are good. 48 00:02:21,840 --> 00:02:22,640 Speaker 3: Well, and that's part of it. 49 00:02:22,840 --> 00:02:25,239 Speaker 2: And Tomlin was asked, you know, do you want to 50 00:02:25,240 --> 00:02:27,080 Speaker 2: see reps or do you want to see good reps? 51 00:02:27,639 --> 00:02:29,720 Speaker 2: He said, Well, you can learn from you learn from reps, 52 00:02:30,200 --> 00:02:32,480 Speaker 2: but you learn more from good reps, he said. You know, 53 00:02:32,520 --> 00:02:33,920 Speaker 2: so I want to see the offense go out there 54 00:02:33,960 --> 00:02:36,520 Speaker 2: and perform and perform well, and then how many reps 55 00:02:36,520 --> 00:02:37,679 Speaker 2: they get is really up to them. 56 00:02:37,919 --> 00:02:41,480 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, you'd rather make mistakes now than a 57 00:02:41,520 --> 00:02:43,880 Speaker 4: month from now. Obviously, get that stuff out of your system. 58 00:02:43,880 --> 00:02:45,720 Speaker 4: But that's more of the third team guys and the 59 00:02:45,720 --> 00:02:48,880 Speaker 4: people still learning what to do and assignments and passing 60 00:02:48,880 --> 00:02:51,760 Speaker 4: guys off and protection and coverage and things like that. 61 00:02:52,240 --> 00:02:55,400 Speaker 4: So I assume you'd love, love, love to go like 62 00:02:55,440 --> 00:02:58,960 Speaker 4: another five play touchdowns right right, right right, go out there, efficient, 63 00:02:59,080 --> 00:03:04,600 Speaker 4: get the job done. Everyone's helmets. Yeah, that's just a 64 00:03:04,639 --> 00:03:07,920 Speaker 4: second ago. Do you think they would break up the 65 00:03:08,000 --> 00:03:11,000 Speaker 4: starting five and sit him but not the other four? 66 00:03:11,440 --> 00:03:12,080 Speaker 3: Probably not. 67 00:03:12,200 --> 00:03:14,240 Speaker 2: That's why, you know, I think you want that group 68 00:03:14,280 --> 00:03:16,760 Speaker 2: to continue with the continuity exactly. 69 00:03:16,840 --> 00:03:19,120 Speaker 4: And you know it practiced hud Get a day when 70 00:03:19,120 --> 00:03:21,000 Speaker 4: they didn't. But that's a little different. 71 00:03:21,040 --> 00:03:23,040 Speaker 2: One of the things that we talked about in the offseason, 72 00:03:23,040 --> 00:03:24,400 Speaker 2: Matt and we haven't talked about it. 73 00:03:24,400 --> 00:03:25,280 Speaker 3: I don't know if he's. 74 00:03:25,160 --> 00:03:28,360 Speaker 2: Touched on it since in training camp is everybody's talking 75 00:03:28,360 --> 00:03:31,120 Speaker 2: about Dan Moore junior left tackle. Boy, he looks so 76 00:03:31,160 --> 00:03:33,400 Speaker 2: much better, he looks different, and obviously he's been a 77 00:03:33,400 --> 00:03:34,080 Speaker 2: big part of that. 78 00:03:34,280 --> 00:03:34,880 Speaker 4: He's improved. 79 00:03:35,480 --> 00:03:37,920 Speaker 2: But one of the things we wanted to see was 80 00:03:37,960 --> 00:03:41,600 Speaker 2: if putting a veteran left guard next to him would 81 00:03:41,640 --> 00:03:43,320 Speaker 2: help improve his play as well. And so I don't 82 00:03:43,360 --> 00:03:45,480 Speaker 2: know what if that's been the case as well? Here 83 00:03:45,960 --> 00:03:47,560 Speaker 2: is it a chicken or the egg kind of thing, 84 00:03:47,960 --> 00:03:51,200 Speaker 2: but it sure seems like that left side is much 85 00:03:52,160 --> 00:03:53,120 Speaker 2: it's much better now. 86 00:03:53,200 --> 00:03:56,560 Speaker 4: Stabler, Yeah, Firmer. I have a couple thoughts on that, 87 00:03:56,760 --> 00:03:59,240 Speaker 4: is anyone's been the camp let alone as much as 88 00:03:59,320 --> 00:04:03,640 Speaker 4: us has probably seen the influence Isaac has had on 89 00:04:03,680 --> 00:04:07,000 Speaker 4: the others. I mean, it's pretty obvious just after practice 90 00:04:07,200 --> 00:04:10,839 Speaker 4: or whatever. He's the veteran statesman coming from the best 91 00:04:10,960 --> 00:04:15,040 Speaker 4: league in a line in the league, super smart in football, 92 00:04:15,080 --> 00:04:17,839 Speaker 4: intelligence off the charts, like would have been the leader 93 00:04:17,839 --> 00:04:19,800 Speaker 4: of the Eagles line if they didn't have Kelsey. Who's 94 00:04:19,839 --> 00:04:22,080 Speaker 4: you know, that type of thing. So I think that 95 00:04:22,320 --> 00:04:25,080 Speaker 4: has a lot to do with probably all the lignement, 96 00:04:25,200 --> 00:04:27,479 Speaker 4: maybe more and more than any didn't mean to do that. 97 00:04:28,240 --> 00:04:32,919 Speaker 4: And I'm not picking on Dotson, but I think he 98 00:04:33,160 --> 00:04:36,920 Speaker 4: wasn't the most assignment sound. I think there was times 99 00:04:36,960 --> 00:04:41,560 Speaker 4: more or even Cole would look worse because Kevin wasn't 100 00:04:41,560 --> 00:04:42,800 Speaker 4: doing his job or. 101 00:04:42,720 --> 00:04:44,960 Speaker 2: You know, they told us that in the offseason when 102 00:04:45,000 --> 00:04:48,279 Speaker 2: they went out and found her a veteran replacement for Dotson. 103 00:04:48,360 --> 00:04:49,720 Speaker 4: That's what I was about to say, too, Like I 104 00:04:49,760 --> 00:04:52,080 Speaker 4: was a little shocked when they signed her, big, I 105 00:04:52,160 --> 00:04:54,400 Speaker 4: was really shocked when they signed solam All. I'm like, wait, 106 00:04:54,440 --> 00:04:56,240 Speaker 4: you got a lot here. But I think it was 107 00:04:57,080 --> 00:04:59,640 Speaker 4: sort of a reflection on errors last year at the 108 00:04:59,680 --> 00:05:00,520 Speaker 4: left go position. 109 00:05:00,640 --> 00:05:02,159 Speaker 2: Yeah, and I mean he you know, he led the 110 00:05:02,160 --> 00:05:05,400 Speaker 2: team in penaltiest that ping gots and you know, you 111 00:05:05,440 --> 00:05:08,000 Speaker 2: don't know how many penalties are going to happen on 112 00:05:08,040 --> 00:05:10,359 Speaker 2: the offensive, right, you know, you could call holding penalty 113 00:05:10,360 --> 00:05:11,240 Speaker 2: on every play. 114 00:05:11,920 --> 00:05:14,800 Speaker 4: You know, stuff not always their fault either, Right. 115 00:05:14,760 --> 00:05:17,080 Speaker 2: That's kind of you know, you're if the quarterback doesn't 116 00:05:17,080 --> 00:05:18,719 Speaker 2: get rid of the ball when he's supposed to, that 117 00:05:18,720 --> 00:05:19,360 Speaker 2: that happens. 118 00:05:20,839 --> 00:05:23,600 Speaker 3: I don't know, I haven't seen that called in this preseason, by. 119 00:05:23,520 --> 00:05:26,320 Speaker 4: The way, I don't think i've seen it any game called. 120 00:05:26,680 --> 00:05:28,520 Speaker 3: And I've watched some preseason games this year. 121 00:05:28,600 --> 00:05:30,160 Speaker 4: I hope they ease up on that. 122 00:05:30,279 --> 00:05:32,200 Speaker 2: I would really like to see that because I don't 123 00:05:32,240 --> 00:05:33,880 Speaker 2: see where being another. 124 00:05:33,720 --> 00:05:35,400 Speaker 4: Extratout that the whole. 125 00:05:35,400 --> 00:05:37,719 Speaker 2: An extra step down the field. I haven't seen where 126 00:05:37,720 --> 00:05:42,040 Speaker 2: that really distinctent. It doesn't make that big of it. Now, 127 00:05:42,040 --> 00:05:43,560 Speaker 2: if you're ten yards down the field, I get it, 128 00:05:43,600 --> 00:05:45,120 Speaker 2: you got to throw a penalty. But if you're an 129 00:05:45,160 --> 00:05:47,480 Speaker 2: extra step down the field when the ball is thrown, 130 00:05:48,040 --> 00:05:49,080 Speaker 2: it makes no difference. 131 00:05:49,279 --> 00:05:51,320 Speaker 4: See my initial thoughts when you said, well, my initial 132 00:05:51,360 --> 00:05:53,240 Speaker 4: thoughts we said that were like, Wow, that was right. 133 00:05:53,279 --> 00:05:55,039 Speaker 4: I have not seen that at all. And then I 134 00:05:55,080 --> 00:05:57,279 Speaker 4: was like, I'm really happy I haven't seen that. I'm 135 00:05:57,279 --> 00:05:58,279 Speaker 4: sure the fans. 136 00:05:57,960 --> 00:05:59,520 Speaker 3: Are really not slash year. 137 00:06:00,080 --> 00:06:03,800 Speaker 4: That really is a buzzkill for a fan, even if 138 00:06:03,800 --> 00:06:07,000 Speaker 4: you're watching not a Steeler game, you're watching Texans rams, Like, 139 00:06:07,040 --> 00:06:08,760 Speaker 4: I don't want to see that, you know, bring back 140 00:06:08,760 --> 00:06:09,200 Speaker 4: a good play. 141 00:06:09,640 --> 00:06:11,640 Speaker 2: I always hated to see that those kind of calls 142 00:06:11,640 --> 00:06:14,039 Speaker 2: made when they when they're playing the games overseas. And 143 00:06:14,080 --> 00:06:17,120 Speaker 2: I'm not saying that that the fans overseas don't understand 144 00:06:17,160 --> 00:06:20,240 Speaker 2: the game like American fans do, but it's different. 145 00:06:20,600 --> 00:06:22,520 Speaker 4: But probably some of them. 146 00:06:22,560 --> 00:06:24,240 Speaker 2: You know, if you're watching this is if this is 147 00:06:24,240 --> 00:06:27,200 Speaker 2: the first NFL game you've seen live in your life. Right, 148 00:06:27,279 --> 00:06:29,400 Speaker 2: And that's a that's a penalty that's called once every 149 00:06:30,000 --> 00:06:30,839 Speaker 2: twenty games. 150 00:06:31,160 --> 00:06:32,920 Speaker 3: Previously you might not have ever seen. 151 00:06:32,960 --> 00:06:34,760 Speaker 2: Oh you know, all you see is a big play 152 00:06:34,800 --> 00:06:35,760 Speaker 2: and all of a sudden they come back to it 153 00:06:35,839 --> 00:06:37,839 Speaker 2: with ineligible downfield. 154 00:06:38,279 --> 00:06:38,880 Speaker 3: What's that mean? 155 00:06:39,040 --> 00:06:41,440 Speaker 4: Yeah? Right, right, right? Like if I went to my 156 00:06:41,480 --> 00:06:44,120 Speaker 4: first cricket match, which I know very very very little about, 157 00:06:44,160 --> 00:06:46,640 Speaker 4: and it wasn't they just kept stopping the game for 158 00:06:46,680 --> 00:06:47,719 Speaker 4: some random reason. 159 00:06:47,800 --> 00:06:49,760 Speaker 2: I've been taking points off the board and things of that. 160 00:06:49,800 --> 00:06:52,360 Speaker 2: They're big, big games or big hit off the No. 161 00:06:52,440 --> 00:06:54,039 Speaker 3: I want to see. I want to see the game. 162 00:06:53,839 --> 00:06:57,000 Speaker 4: Played, and I've been trying to look, or at least 163 00:06:57,160 --> 00:07:00,640 Speaker 4: it's been in my cranium that scoring is down, scoring 164 00:07:00,680 --> 00:07:02,920 Speaker 4: is down the last couple of years. I bet deep 165 00:07:02,960 --> 00:07:05,520 Speaker 4: down the league doesn't want that. So if we can 166 00:07:05,560 --> 00:07:08,360 Speaker 4: ease up on this one penalty, maybe others who knows. 167 00:07:08,839 --> 00:07:09,840 Speaker 4: I think it's for the best. 168 00:07:10,560 --> 00:07:12,320 Speaker 3: No, I agree completely, I can think. 169 00:07:12,360 --> 00:07:13,960 Speaker 2: I mean, the Steelers had it called on them, I 170 00:07:14,000 --> 00:07:15,960 Speaker 2: think maybe four or five times last year. I don't 171 00:07:15,960 --> 00:07:17,920 Speaker 2: I don't have the exact numbers, and I think at 172 00:07:18,000 --> 00:07:19,800 Speaker 2: least three of those eras big plays. 173 00:07:20,120 --> 00:07:22,840 Speaker 4: Yeah, and it wasn't because the one step downfield. Yeah, 174 00:07:22,920 --> 00:07:26,679 Speaker 4: the guard or tackle or whatever, that's crazy. It is anyway, 175 00:07:26,680 --> 00:07:30,480 Speaker 4: that's the way this that's the way this show does. 176 00:07:30,520 --> 00:07:34,840 Speaker 2: We just kind of again free form jazz radio. But yeah, 177 00:07:34,880 --> 00:07:37,000 Speaker 2: I think you know, when you get into this game, 178 00:07:37,760 --> 00:07:40,080 Speaker 2: A you want to get through it healthy, especially with 179 00:07:40,080 --> 00:07:42,840 Speaker 2: your frontline players. But be very fortunate with that, so 180 00:07:42,920 --> 00:07:43,880 Speaker 2: extremely fortunate. 181 00:07:44,440 --> 00:07:45,120 Speaker 4: Uh B. 182 00:07:45,240 --> 00:07:46,720 Speaker 2: You want to see some of these younger guys go 183 00:07:46,720 --> 00:07:48,200 Speaker 2: out there and perform. You want to see the first unit, 184 00:07:48,200 --> 00:07:50,520 Speaker 2: you want to see this the team as a whole perform. Well, 185 00:07:51,720 --> 00:07:53,520 Speaker 2: but I thought Mike Tomlin brought up a good point 186 00:07:53,520 --> 00:07:56,920 Speaker 2: today as well when he mentioned that this is the 187 00:07:56,960 --> 00:08:00,120 Speaker 2: games are graded differently on special team. 188 00:08:00,520 --> 00:08:02,880 Speaker 4: For this because I'm about to bring up special teams. 189 00:08:02,720 --> 00:08:07,040 Speaker 2: Because you can't replicate covering a punt in practice. No, 190 00:08:07,160 --> 00:08:09,920 Speaker 2: you can't replicate covering a kick in practice. You're not 191 00:08:09,920 --> 00:08:12,640 Speaker 2: gonna have guys you know, running down there like Kamakazi's 192 00:08:13,320 --> 00:08:15,960 Speaker 2: and you know, taking somebody out right, you know, But 193 00:08:16,080 --> 00:08:17,400 Speaker 2: in the game you have to do that. 194 00:08:17,720 --> 00:08:20,760 Speaker 4: You have to. So we mentioned this a few times 195 00:08:20,760 --> 00:08:23,320 Speaker 4: watching practices live. But if you've never been to an 196 00:08:23,400 --> 00:08:27,440 Speaker 4: NFL practice and you watch special teams drills, they resemble 197 00:08:27,520 --> 00:08:31,400 Speaker 4: what happens on Sunday a lot less than passing everything else. 198 00:08:31,440 --> 00:08:33,800 Speaker 4: Than everything else, I mean, there's some weird stuff there. 199 00:08:34,120 --> 00:08:36,720 Speaker 4: It's a lot of bag work. If you tackle it all, 200 00:08:37,040 --> 00:08:38,800 Speaker 4: you're as you mentioned, you're not going to run fifty 201 00:08:38,840 --> 00:08:41,880 Speaker 4: yards down field and hit Calvin Austin in the face, right, 202 00:08:42,880 --> 00:08:44,600 Speaker 4: you know what I mean? Like that, it doesn't cut it. 203 00:08:44,640 --> 00:08:47,240 Speaker 4: So you want as much special team action as you 204 00:08:47,240 --> 00:08:50,160 Speaker 4: possibly can get. That's why you'll see people not kicking 205 00:08:50,160 --> 00:08:52,520 Speaker 4: the ball at the end zone, and those those reps 206 00:08:52,520 --> 00:08:54,400 Speaker 4: are maybe more valuable than any I. 207 00:08:54,400 --> 00:08:56,800 Speaker 2: Haven't seen a team used as new fair catch rules. 208 00:08:56,800 --> 00:08:58,360 Speaker 4: We have an either, which I'm happy about. 209 00:08:58,480 --> 00:09:00,679 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's going to happen in the regular season, I 210 00:09:00,720 --> 00:09:01,440 Speaker 2: have no doubt about. 211 00:09:01,480 --> 00:09:02,199 Speaker 4: That makes all sense. 212 00:09:02,440 --> 00:09:05,120 Speaker 2: But everybody wants to rep their special teams. And I've 213 00:09:05,120 --> 00:09:08,320 Speaker 2: seen games in the past in the preseason where every team, 214 00:09:08,559 --> 00:09:09,920 Speaker 2: like some teams, just kicked the ball out of the 215 00:09:10,000 --> 00:09:11,640 Speaker 2: end zone every time, and it just drove me nuts. 216 00:09:11,640 --> 00:09:12,360 Speaker 3: Like what are you doing? 217 00:09:13,200 --> 00:09:14,920 Speaker 2: How are you how are you looking at your special 218 00:09:14,920 --> 00:09:17,079 Speaker 2: teams guys at all? Oh, you stayed in your lane. Well, yeah, 219 00:09:17,080 --> 00:09:18,600 Speaker 2: we kicked the ball out of the end zone, and 220 00:09:18,640 --> 00:09:20,160 Speaker 2: you know we're kicking the ball out of the end zone. 221 00:09:20,160 --> 00:09:21,760 Speaker 4: It could have been me and you and eight of 222 00:09:21,760 --> 00:09:23,360 Speaker 4: our listeners. Yeah, next to the kicker. 223 00:09:26,440 --> 00:09:28,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, we'll stay in our lanes. You know, we're kicking 224 00:09:28,240 --> 00:09:28,640 Speaker 3: the ball the. 225 00:09:28,679 --> 00:09:30,520 Speaker 4: En zone the field for ten yards and as the 226 00:09:30,520 --> 00:09:32,240 Speaker 4: ball goes flying out of the end zone, right, that 227 00:09:32,320 --> 00:09:35,600 Speaker 4: always made me crazy, But no, I think that's great. 228 00:09:35,760 --> 00:09:39,040 Speaker 4: And I do think there are five or six guys 229 00:09:39,160 --> 00:09:43,719 Speaker 4: whose special teams acumen, whether they're good, bad, or trustworthy 230 00:09:43,760 --> 00:09:45,360 Speaker 4: at it is going to go a long way to 231 00:09:45,440 --> 00:09:47,280 Speaker 4: them making the team. I mean a guy like Muse 232 00:09:47,640 --> 00:09:50,160 Speaker 4: or Riley or you know a lot of those type 233 00:09:50,200 --> 00:09:50,440 Speaker 4: of guys. 234 00:09:50,480 --> 00:09:52,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, I've seen guys make this roster in the in 235 00:09:52,640 --> 00:09:55,040 Speaker 2: the final preseason game based on a big play on 236 00:09:55,120 --> 00:09:59,280 Speaker 2: special teams. In the finale, you know that that's. 237 00:09:58,880 --> 00:10:00,839 Speaker 4: Just dynamite and a special against. 238 00:10:00,440 --> 00:10:03,920 Speaker 2: The Bills tremendous. I mean, one of the best all 239 00:10:03,960 --> 00:10:05,760 Speaker 2: around efforts that I've seen. I mean, you get you 240 00:10:05,800 --> 00:10:08,559 Speaker 2: get a long return, you covered everything, well, you got 241 00:10:08,600 --> 00:10:10,400 Speaker 2: all your punts from We're down inside. 242 00:10:10,160 --> 00:10:12,960 Speaker 4: The Spectacular bos didn't miss, you know. 243 00:10:13,160 --> 00:10:13,400 Speaker 3: Yeah. 244 00:10:13,440 --> 00:10:15,880 Speaker 2: The only thing was they had two penalties on special 245 00:10:15,880 --> 00:10:17,800 Speaker 2: teams and one was late in the game because they 246 00:10:17,800 --> 00:10:19,800 Speaker 2: were trying to figure out who they wanted on for 247 00:10:19,840 --> 00:10:21,160 Speaker 2: the last pat But. 248 00:10:21,200 --> 00:10:23,480 Speaker 4: Which happens a lot because it's not the same eleven 249 00:10:23,520 --> 00:10:25,240 Speaker 4: as you go from week to week, three to four. 250 00:10:25,280 --> 00:10:27,280 Speaker 4: I mean, it's a lot of shuffling bodies there. That's 251 00:10:27,320 --> 00:10:30,040 Speaker 4: not a big deal. So no, that's good. I'm sure 252 00:10:30,120 --> 00:10:34,000 Speaker 4: coach did mentioned special team live repsy is a lot 253 00:10:34,120 --> 00:10:35,040 Speaker 4: different than practice. 254 00:10:35,559 --> 00:10:39,240 Speaker 3: I wonder how and I haven't seen anything yet Atlanta 255 00:10:40,960 --> 00:10:41,800 Speaker 3: looks at this game. 256 00:10:42,760 --> 00:10:44,920 Speaker 2: I would assume Ritter's going to play and play a lot. 257 00:10:45,200 --> 00:10:46,680 Speaker 2: Do we get a lot of Bjean Robinson? 258 00:10:47,080 --> 00:10:49,440 Speaker 4: I don't know. They all played last game, Yeah, I mean, 259 00:10:49,679 --> 00:10:52,880 Speaker 4: and including on you know, the whole line, Drake London. 260 00:10:53,120 --> 00:10:54,760 Speaker 4: I don't think like Kalais Campbell played. 261 00:10:54,960 --> 00:10:56,880 Speaker 3: You know again, he's in that you know he doesn't 262 00:10:56,920 --> 00:10:58,000 Speaker 3: need to play yet. 263 00:10:57,960 --> 00:11:01,280 Speaker 4: Right, I would play Riddle like I don't know if 264 00:11:01,320 --> 00:11:05,520 Speaker 4: i'd play Bijean. Maybe give him the nausey one treatment 265 00:11:05,720 --> 00:11:08,440 Speaker 4: one series, but don't hand it to him to treatment, 266 00:11:08,720 --> 00:11:10,559 Speaker 4: you know, like one of those type of deals. Throw 267 00:11:10,640 --> 00:11:12,319 Speaker 4: him a pass out of the slot, something like that. 268 00:11:12,800 --> 00:11:14,640 Speaker 4: But I don't think I want him taking hits, especially 269 00:11:14,679 --> 00:11:18,120 Speaker 4: with Algier in the in the equation, He's more than capable. 270 00:11:18,240 --> 00:11:19,360 Speaker 3: But this is a run heavy team. 271 00:11:19,840 --> 00:11:24,439 Speaker 4: It is maybe one of the most run heavy. 272 00:11:24,840 --> 00:11:26,120 Speaker 2: I mean they were one of the teams that had 273 00:11:26,160 --> 00:11:27,760 Speaker 2: a fifty to fifty split last year. 274 00:11:27,640 --> 00:11:31,199 Speaker 4: Which is rare, like the Chicago's off the charts last year. 275 00:11:31,360 --> 00:11:33,559 Speaker 4: But that was because that's all they could do. I 276 00:11:33,640 --> 00:11:37,319 Speaker 4: will say, though, when you study this team, or even 277 00:11:37,360 --> 00:11:40,360 Speaker 4: if you study the head coach Arthur Smith, yes he's 278 00:11:40,440 --> 00:11:43,960 Speaker 4: run heavy, Derrick Henry, draft Bjeon. Everyone they have is big. 279 00:11:44,160 --> 00:11:46,240 Speaker 4: I mean they just want huge people because they want 280 00:11:46,320 --> 00:11:48,360 Speaker 4: Drake London to block, and I mean they're a big 281 00:11:48,440 --> 00:11:51,600 Speaker 4: football team. They look the part, but if you take 282 00:11:51,679 --> 00:11:56,840 Speaker 4: away the stint where Marcus Mariota was the quarterback. 283 00:11:56,440 --> 00:11:59,360 Speaker 3: For them, they're he's quarterback in air quotes. When you 284 00:11:59,360 --> 00:12:00,880 Speaker 3: talk about Marcus Mariota. 285 00:12:00,679 --> 00:12:03,040 Speaker 4: If you weren't able to listen yesterday, I think one 286 00:12:03,120 --> 00:12:04,360 Speaker 4: of us said, boy, is he bad? 287 00:12:04,600 --> 00:12:05,040 Speaker 3: You said that. 288 00:12:05,840 --> 00:12:08,360 Speaker 4: I've been saying it everywhere, and he is really bad 289 00:12:08,679 --> 00:12:12,760 Speaker 4: and anyway, when he was the starting quarterback, they were 290 00:12:12,880 --> 00:12:15,719 Speaker 4: obscenely run heavy. But like if you go back to 291 00:12:15,840 --> 00:12:19,760 Speaker 4: Tannehill with the Titans or even Ritter, it's a little 292 00:12:19,920 --> 00:12:24,120 Speaker 4: more pass happy. I mean that's they're not exactly Dan 293 00:12:24,200 --> 00:12:25,920 Speaker 4: Fouts out there, don't get me wrong, but it's not 294 00:12:26,200 --> 00:12:29,800 Speaker 4: as obscenely run heavy. Yeah, because Mariota couldn't complete it. 295 00:12:30,200 --> 00:12:34,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, he was bad, really bad. But yeah, so you know, 296 00:12:34,200 --> 00:12:37,840 Speaker 2: I'm hopeful that Atlanta plays some of their frontline guys 297 00:12:37,880 --> 00:12:40,720 Speaker 2: because that gives you a much better good sense. Yeah, 298 00:12:41,080 --> 00:12:42,480 Speaker 2: gives you a much better sense, and it's a much 299 00:12:42,520 --> 00:12:47,120 Speaker 2: better test for the Steelers. But you know, you can't 300 00:12:47,160 --> 00:12:49,240 Speaker 2: control that. And that's one thing that Tomlin said today 301 00:12:49,320 --> 00:12:50,959 Speaker 2: is like, look, we got no control over what they do. 302 00:12:51,080 --> 00:12:52,400 Speaker 2: I mean, we're just going to do what we do, 303 00:12:53,600 --> 00:12:55,599 Speaker 2: you know. And that's one of the funny things I 304 00:12:55,720 --> 00:12:59,439 Speaker 2: saw on social media today. A lot of the Ravens people, 305 00:13:00,000 --> 00:13:02,839 Speaker 2: people that cover the Ravens, people that are fans of 306 00:13:02,920 --> 00:13:06,040 Speaker 2: the Ravens. Well, Washington had to play their starters to 307 00:13:06,080 --> 00:13:07,400 Speaker 2: beat us in that preseason game. 308 00:13:08,920 --> 00:13:11,400 Speaker 3: You lost. It's a preseason game. Who cares? 309 00:13:11,640 --> 00:13:13,960 Speaker 4: So you're the ones that cared about the stupid streak. Yeah, 310 00:13:13,960 --> 00:13:16,880 Speaker 4: and the thirty one other teams or probably any fan 311 00:13:17,000 --> 00:13:21,040 Speaker 4: base out there. And if you're Washington, much like Atlanta. 312 00:13:20,760 --> 00:13:22,760 Speaker 3: Sam Howe had to play, you got to play that guy. 313 00:13:22,880 --> 00:13:24,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, oh you played your starter as one on with 314 00:13:24,840 --> 00:13:28,440 Speaker 2: Sam Howe started one career game, right, So let's let's 315 00:13:28,800 --> 00:13:30,120 Speaker 2: you know, we need. 316 00:13:30,800 --> 00:13:33,160 Speaker 3: A little bit right now. They did lose Terry McLaurin 317 00:13:33,240 --> 00:13:34,719 Speaker 3: to a tow injury last night. 318 00:13:35,360 --> 00:13:37,440 Speaker 4: That's just sound like it's all that bad, No, but it's. 319 00:13:37,320 --> 00:13:40,960 Speaker 3: Still you avoided the injury there. But yeah, it's definitely 320 00:13:41,000 --> 00:13:41,800 Speaker 3: a scares. 321 00:13:41,480 --> 00:13:42,520 Speaker 4: Guys you could afford to lose. 322 00:13:43,320 --> 00:13:45,880 Speaker 3: But yeah, I mean, you can't control who the opponent plays. 323 00:13:45,960 --> 00:13:47,360 Speaker 3: You just can control what you do. 324 00:13:48,120 --> 00:13:50,520 Speaker 2: And if you think you're going to be a good 325 00:13:50,520 --> 00:13:52,480 Speaker 2: football team, your two should be pretty good too. 326 00:13:52,920 --> 00:13:56,000 Speaker 4: Right right. I mean, I think this has proven to 327 00:13:56,040 --> 00:13:59,320 Speaker 4: be true, but the Steelers' depth guys have really held 328 00:13:59,360 --> 00:14:02,360 Speaker 4: their own throughout the preseason. And I think it's a 329 00:14:02,440 --> 00:14:05,560 Speaker 4: deep roster. If you aren't, you're going to get exposed 330 00:14:05,679 --> 00:14:08,840 Speaker 4: later in games. And I do have some raven depth questions, 331 00:14:08,960 --> 00:14:12,000 Speaker 4: especially when you don't dress even dress Lamar and Odell 332 00:14:12,200 --> 00:14:14,000 Speaker 4: and you know, et cetera, et cetera. So you really 333 00:14:14,000 --> 00:14:15,720 Speaker 4: get in you don't even get the I. 334 00:14:15,760 --> 00:14:18,079 Speaker 2: Mean ode Odell backup is not going to play a 335 00:14:18,120 --> 00:14:20,280 Speaker 2: football game until the regular season starts. 336 00:14:20,440 --> 00:14:22,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, hasn't played a football game in like two years. 337 00:14:22,840 --> 00:14:24,760 Speaker 4: Statement has a long break too, Yeah, you know, I. 338 00:14:24,800 --> 00:14:26,040 Speaker 3: Mean it's dicey. 339 00:14:26,280 --> 00:14:26,840 Speaker 4: It is dicey. 340 00:14:28,200 --> 00:14:29,840 Speaker 3: Lamar is going to go ten months without playing a 341 00:14:29,880 --> 00:14:30,400 Speaker 3: football game. 342 00:14:30,480 --> 00:14:33,200 Speaker 4: Yeah, I assume none of those guys will play Week three. Yeah, 343 00:14:33,240 --> 00:14:35,080 Speaker 4: in Baltimore. I don't know that for fact, but I 344 00:14:35,120 --> 00:14:35,640 Speaker 4: would think not. 345 00:14:36,520 --> 00:14:38,280 Speaker 3: They haven't played yet, so why would you know? Why 346 00:14:38,280 --> 00:14:39,120 Speaker 3: would you change that? 347 00:14:40,560 --> 00:14:42,520 Speaker 4: But if I were Atlanta, I'd play basically everybody. 348 00:14:42,880 --> 00:14:43,080 Speaker 1: Yeah. 349 00:14:43,080 --> 00:14:46,000 Speaker 2: I mean they're still relatively young football team and trying 350 00:14:46,040 --> 00:14:48,640 Speaker 2: to establish something there, So I would think that they 351 00:14:48,720 --> 00:14:50,720 Speaker 2: do play their guys and it'll be a good test 352 00:14:50,760 --> 00:14:51,680 Speaker 2: for the Steelers. 353 00:14:51,280 --> 00:14:51,760 Speaker 3: In that regard. 354 00:14:51,880 --> 00:14:54,600 Speaker 2: I mean, I think Atlanta is going to be a 355 00:14:54,720 --> 00:14:56,760 Speaker 2: contender in the for the playoffs. 356 00:14:56,800 --> 00:14:59,360 Speaker 4: In the that decision. Yeah, I like the direction of 357 00:14:59,360 --> 00:14:59,960 Speaker 4: the teams going a lot. 358 00:15:00,760 --> 00:15:03,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean they've think when you keep adding top 359 00:15:03,440 --> 00:15:06,280 Speaker 2: ten picks, that usually that's that's what they've done. 360 00:15:07,080 --> 00:15:09,280 Speaker 4: Real quick. The coach, I should I didn't hear the 361 00:15:09,320 --> 00:15:12,000 Speaker 4: press conference. Did he mention any of the the guys 362 00:15:12,040 --> 00:15:14,360 Speaker 4: that didn't play last week, the Bentons of the world, 363 00:15:14,560 --> 00:15:16,080 Speaker 4: or a couple of those guys that missed time. 364 00:15:16,680 --> 00:15:18,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, he's gonna, you know, he's gonna, you know, leave 365 00:15:18,880 --> 00:15:20,360 Speaker 2: the light. I would expect Benton plays. 366 00:15:20,440 --> 00:15:22,960 Speaker 4: He I don't think anything serious right now. No, he did. 367 00:15:23,120 --> 00:15:25,440 Speaker 2: He didn't play last week because basically he was doing 368 00:15:25,880 --> 00:15:28,440 Speaker 2: individual drill work, but he wasn't doing any team stuff. 369 00:15:28,520 --> 00:15:30,520 Speaker 2: You're not going to put him in a situation to 370 00:15:30,560 --> 00:15:33,080 Speaker 2: play in the game under those circumstances. 371 00:15:33,200 --> 00:15:34,880 Speaker 4: They have at him too and are pretty happy with it. 372 00:15:35,080 --> 00:15:37,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think, yeah, but you do. I would. 373 00:15:37,320 --> 00:15:40,240 Speaker 2: I would like to see him working against that Atlanta 374 00:15:40,280 --> 00:15:43,040 Speaker 2: offensive line and they're starting offensive line. If he goes 375 00:15:43,080 --> 00:15:44,960 Speaker 2: out there and looks good against them, now I'm interested. 376 00:15:45,040 --> 00:15:47,480 Speaker 2: Now Now I'm like, yeah, maybe he could be the 377 00:15:47,560 --> 00:15:48,280 Speaker 2: starter this year. 378 00:15:48,440 --> 00:15:50,640 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's a great, great way of putting it, because 379 00:15:50,640 --> 00:15:52,520 Speaker 4: that would be a test for him. It's a good 380 00:15:52,600 --> 00:15:55,560 Speaker 4: line they run at you, that's right up his alley. Physical, 381 00:15:56,120 --> 00:15:58,479 Speaker 4: and I would imagine, well, we know Cam's I'll playing 382 00:15:59,080 --> 00:16:02,680 Speaker 4: is Okeunjobi. I mean, I'd be shocked if he plays 383 00:16:02,720 --> 00:16:02,960 Speaker 4: a lot. 384 00:16:03,160 --> 00:16:07,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean again leaving quote unquote leaving the light 385 00:16:07,200 --> 00:16:10,640 Speaker 2: on for guy, for her big for ogun joby uh, 386 00:16:11,000 --> 00:16:12,720 Speaker 2: for Trey and Norwood. 387 00:16:12,800 --> 00:16:15,800 Speaker 3: But you know, if you're Trey Norwood, I want to 388 00:16:15,800 --> 00:16:16,520 Speaker 3: shoot up for this game. 389 00:16:16,560 --> 00:16:19,160 Speaker 2: I don't want to go out there and watch Elijah 390 00:16:19,240 --> 00:16:21,880 Speaker 2: Riley have another good game and all of a sudden, yeah, 391 00:16:22,000 --> 00:16:24,040 Speaker 2: right now, all of a sudden, Now I'm really in trouble. 392 00:16:24,120 --> 00:16:26,760 Speaker 4: Yeah. I think Norwood's definitely a career of crossroads, and 393 00:16:27,800 --> 00:16:29,600 Speaker 4: not that he's been bad, but I wouldn't say he 394 00:16:29,680 --> 00:16:32,080 Speaker 4: stood out in camp, you know, like Harver Milk stood 395 00:16:32,120 --> 00:16:34,320 Speaker 4: out in camp. You know, May obviously took a step 396 00:16:34,400 --> 00:16:36,400 Speaker 4: forward where I wouldn't say that for Norwood. 397 00:16:36,520 --> 00:16:37,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, you got to get out there in the field. 398 00:16:38,240 --> 00:16:40,200 Speaker 2: Is Chuck Noy you say he can't make the club 399 00:16:40,240 --> 00:16:40,640 Speaker 2: in the tub? 400 00:16:40,840 --> 00:16:44,920 Speaker 4: Did Norwood play in the Buck game? Yes? Okay, so 401 00:16:45,000 --> 00:16:47,720 Speaker 4: at least he has some film against you know, a 402 00:16:47,800 --> 00:16:48,480 Speaker 4: different opponent. 403 00:16:48,680 --> 00:16:51,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, but you know it's it's out of sight, out 404 00:16:51,120 --> 00:16:52,200 Speaker 3: of mine in many cases. 405 00:16:52,480 --> 00:16:54,880 Speaker 4: You know the end of the defensive back depth charts 406 00:16:54,880 --> 00:16:56,120 Speaker 4: a little foggy right now too. 407 00:16:56,320 --> 00:16:58,120 Speaker 2: It is, And so you know you need to be 408 00:16:58,160 --> 00:16:59,880 Speaker 2: out there. You need to make a good impression in 409 00:17:00,120 --> 00:17:03,640 Speaker 2: the last opportunity to do so. And if you're not playing, 410 00:17:03,680 --> 00:17:05,800 Speaker 2: that doesn't leave a good impression. You know, you do 411 00:17:05,920 --> 00:17:07,639 Speaker 2: for a guy like that, he does have a track record, 412 00:17:08,840 --> 00:17:10,679 Speaker 2: but that doesn't mean that. You know, what you did 413 00:17:10,760 --> 00:17:13,080 Speaker 2: last year doesn't mean anything. Is what they think you 414 00:17:13,160 --> 00:17:13,840 Speaker 2: can do this year. 415 00:17:14,160 --> 00:17:16,920 Speaker 4: The guys you mentioned that have missed a little time 416 00:17:17,280 --> 00:17:19,720 Speaker 4: are all pretty safe and he's the one that isn't. Yeah, 417 00:17:19,880 --> 00:17:22,560 Speaker 4: you know, yeah, I'm sure that are real not safe play. 418 00:17:23,359 --> 00:17:24,960 Speaker 4: They're not even going to consider sitting, you know. 419 00:17:25,119 --> 00:17:26,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's interesting. 420 00:17:26,440 --> 00:17:26,560 Speaker 4: You know. 421 00:17:26,680 --> 00:17:29,400 Speaker 2: So the Steelers will cut their roster down to fifty 422 00:17:29,440 --> 00:17:31,840 Speaker 2: three the whole NFL a week from today. 423 00:17:32,119 --> 00:17:33,600 Speaker 4: Okay, yeah, so. 424 00:17:33,680 --> 00:17:36,760 Speaker 3: The Steelers are one of the first games this weekend. 425 00:17:36,920 --> 00:17:37,719 Speaker 3: They didn't do them all. 426 00:17:37,760 --> 00:17:39,879 Speaker 2: If you remember, in previous years, they did all the 427 00:17:39,920 --> 00:17:41,240 Speaker 2: games on the Thursday. 428 00:17:40,920 --> 00:17:44,240 Speaker 3: Night, give everyone the exact, same, exact, same break. This 429 00:17:44,359 --> 00:17:45,080 Speaker 3: year they didn't do that. 430 00:17:45,640 --> 00:17:47,320 Speaker 4: No, I assume it's for TV purposes. 431 00:17:47,359 --> 00:17:47,920 Speaker 3: I would assume. 432 00:17:48,000 --> 00:17:50,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, they got more, Yeah, they get more, you know, 433 00:17:50,280 --> 00:17:53,159 Speaker 2: eyes on the on the TV. But the Steelers have 434 00:17:53,240 --> 00:17:56,200 Speaker 2: the longest break seventeen days between. 435 00:17:56,119 --> 00:17:59,080 Speaker 4: That's as long as you Yeah, unless you played Thursday 436 00:17:59,119 --> 00:18:02,040 Speaker 4: and more on Monday. Yeah, so I assume the Thursday 437 00:18:02,119 --> 00:18:07,720 Speaker 4: night teams Chiefs, Jags, no Lions, Chiefs Lions. Yeah, I 438 00:18:07,800 --> 00:18:09,159 Speaker 4: assume they're playing Thursday too. 439 00:18:09,320 --> 00:18:10,080 Speaker 3: I don't think they are. 440 00:18:10,119 --> 00:18:10,440 Speaker 4: Aren't that. 441 00:18:10,760 --> 00:18:12,080 Speaker 3: I don't think they I don't think they ask. 442 00:18:12,359 --> 00:18:14,560 Speaker 2: I think everybody at least has everybody has at least 443 00:18:14,600 --> 00:18:16,960 Speaker 2: two weeks off from give or take at least ten days. 444 00:18:17,880 --> 00:18:18,800 Speaker 4: And that's still a long break. 445 00:18:18,840 --> 00:18:21,640 Speaker 2: That's that's an awfully long break. But for the Steelers 446 00:18:21,680 --> 00:18:24,399 Speaker 2: it's it's basically seventeen days. So in that regard, it 447 00:18:24,440 --> 00:18:26,719 Speaker 2: does make sense for Tomlin to play his starters at 448 00:18:26,760 --> 00:18:28,840 Speaker 2: least some Yeah, the guys that you don't know as 449 00:18:28,880 --> 00:18:31,399 Speaker 2: much about because you cam, Hayward's not getting anything out 450 00:18:31,440 --> 00:18:31,560 Speaker 2: of that. 451 00:18:31,680 --> 00:18:31,880 Speaker 4: TJ. 452 00:18:32,000 --> 00:18:34,840 Speaker 3: Wat's not getting anything out of that. Alex he might. 453 00:18:35,080 --> 00:18:36,280 Speaker 3: And the offensive line. 454 00:18:36,160 --> 00:18:39,040 Speaker 4: Is right Pickens ticket, you know, I mean, no doubt 455 00:18:39,440 --> 00:18:40,760 Speaker 4: nause he's a little different to me. 456 00:18:40,960 --> 00:18:43,399 Speaker 3: Yeah, and they're running back. There's certain positions that the. 457 00:18:43,480 --> 00:18:46,159 Speaker 4: Position plays right, and him and Warren they've treated exactly 458 00:18:46,240 --> 00:18:48,000 Speaker 4: the same and one comes out the other comes out. 459 00:18:48,119 --> 00:18:50,600 Speaker 4: So I mean and they I guess they are trying 460 00:18:50,640 --> 00:18:54,359 Speaker 4: to still get a look at the backs not named McFarland. 461 00:18:54,800 --> 00:18:57,120 Speaker 4: But I don't know that any of them are really 462 00:18:57,200 --> 00:18:59,080 Speaker 4: in the mix. But maybe there's a practice squad spot 463 00:18:59,160 --> 00:18:59,600 Speaker 4: for one of them. 464 00:18:59,760 --> 00:19:02,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, I would think you're definitely is. Yeah, definitely is, 465 00:19:02,640 --> 00:19:05,760 Speaker 2: depending on how many of the keeps. So yeah, a 466 00:19:05,840 --> 00:19:08,439 Speaker 2: lot to look forward to in Thursday's game. But we're 467 00:19:08,440 --> 00:19:10,840 Speaker 2: gonna get to a break. He is Matt Williamson. I 468 00:19:10,960 --> 00:19:12,879 Speaker 2: am Dale Lolly. You're listening to the Drive here on 469 00:19:13,000 --> 00:19:17,080 Speaker 2: Steelers Nation Radio and ESPN nine seventy. Well, actually no, 470 00:19:17,119 --> 00:19:18,360 Speaker 2: we're not on ESPN nine seven. 471 00:19:18,640 --> 00:19:19,439 Speaker 4: Yeah, change a little bit. 472 00:19:19,680 --> 00:19:22,440 Speaker 2: I just my mind got locked into that for so long. 473 00:19:23,040 --> 00:19:25,640 Speaker 2: But yeah, just on the Steelers Nation Radio. We're gonna 474 00:19:25,640 --> 00:19:27,520 Speaker 2: take a break. We'll be back with more right after this. 475 00:19:31,400 --> 00:19:34,679 Speaker 1: This is the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson 476 00:19:35,119 --> 00:19:37,320 Speaker 1: on your twenty four to seven home of the Black 477 00:19:37,400 --> 00:19:40,200 Speaker 1: and Gold SNR Steelers Nation Radio. 478 00:19:43,560 --> 00:19:44,359 Speaker 3: Welcome back. 479 00:19:44,480 --> 00:19:46,920 Speaker 2: I am Dale LOLLI he is Matt Williamson, and this 480 00:19:47,080 --> 00:19:51,680 Speaker 2: is the Drive on Steelers Nation Radio and Matt Mary 481 00:19:51,800 --> 00:19:55,200 Speaker 2: Jones Drew knows a little something about playing running back 482 00:19:55,200 --> 00:19:58,640 Speaker 2: in the NFL, did it for a nice long time 483 00:19:58,680 --> 00:20:01,399 Speaker 2: in the NFL, and he out his rankings of the 484 00:20:01,640 --> 00:20:05,159 Speaker 2: thirty two starting running backs in the NFL. 485 00:20:05,400 --> 00:20:07,640 Speaker 4: Interesting, it's on NFL dot com. 486 00:20:08,080 --> 00:20:09,600 Speaker 2: So I thought we'd run over that list here and 487 00:20:09,640 --> 00:20:12,400 Speaker 2: see where Nausee Harris ranks on this list. 488 00:20:12,480 --> 00:20:14,760 Speaker 4: And what's interesting too, is you know, Jonathan Taylor all 489 00:20:14,760 --> 00:20:16,920 Speaker 4: of a sudden's on the trade block, and you know 490 00:20:17,040 --> 00:20:19,600 Speaker 4: there's there's been a lot of running back rumblings lately. 491 00:20:19,720 --> 00:20:22,199 Speaker 4: Josh Jacobs isn't in camp yet still, and I mean 492 00:20:22,240 --> 00:20:24,200 Speaker 4: some of these things are still to shake out. 493 00:20:24,760 --> 00:20:27,720 Speaker 2: So at number thirty two, so real quick, did you 494 00:20:27,760 --> 00:20:28,560 Speaker 2: look at the list yet? 495 00:20:28,680 --> 00:20:29,560 Speaker 3: Like I scanned it? 496 00:20:29,800 --> 00:20:32,520 Speaker 4: Like is Dalvin Cook and Breese Hall on there? 497 00:20:32,840 --> 00:20:34,720 Speaker 3: Or I didn't steal it in Jones, I didn't scan 498 00:20:34,800 --> 00:20:35,199 Speaker 3: it that far. 499 00:20:35,280 --> 00:20:36,760 Speaker 4: Okay, yeah, okay, Well, I guess we'll figure it out 500 00:20:36,760 --> 00:20:36,960 Speaker 4: as we go. 501 00:20:37,080 --> 00:20:39,399 Speaker 2: He just ranks him from one to thirty two. How 502 00:20:39,480 --> 00:20:42,520 Speaker 2: he has the running backs in the league ranked, which 503 00:20:42,880 --> 00:20:45,000 Speaker 2: basically works out the one for every team. Yeah, yeah, 504 00:20:45,560 --> 00:20:47,320 Speaker 2: he has James Connor ranked thirty second. 505 00:20:48,040 --> 00:20:51,440 Speaker 4: Hm, I would bet i'd be higher on him than that. 506 00:20:51,560 --> 00:20:53,960 Speaker 4: I mean, he's pretty pedestrian, but he doesn't get a 507 00:20:53,960 --> 00:20:56,600 Speaker 4: whole heck of a lot of help, and the injury stuff. 508 00:20:56,600 --> 00:20:58,240 Speaker 4: I don't say it's behind him, but it's been a 509 00:20:58,280 --> 00:20:59,359 Speaker 4: little overblown lately. 510 00:21:00,000 --> 00:21:02,119 Speaker 3: I only played thirteen games last year, now, I. 511 00:21:02,119 --> 00:21:05,000 Speaker 4: Mean, but he's a quality back. I mean, I don't. 512 00:21:05,119 --> 00:21:06,239 Speaker 4: I guess we'll see who's about him. 513 00:21:06,800 --> 00:21:09,080 Speaker 3: Okay. At thirty one, he has James Cook. 514 00:21:11,480 --> 00:21:12,680 Speaker 4: He hasn't done a lot yet. 515 00:21:13,520 --> 00:21:15,720 Speaker 3: He was five point seven yards of carry last year in. 516 00:21:15,720 --> 00:21:18,680 Speaker 2: Sixteen games, and he's a really good receiver twenty one receptions. 517 00:21:18,720 --> 00:21:20,560 Speaker 2: I mean, it's not like he didn't do anything last year. 518 00:21:20,800 --> 00:21:22,399 Speaker 4: Came on late. Yeah, Okay. 519 00:21:23,280 --> 00:21:25,320 Speaker 3: At thirty he has Miles Sanders. 520 00:21:25,880 --> 00:21:28,680 Speaker 4: Wow. I would have thought he would be sixteen or 521 00:21:28,720 --> 00:21:29,879 Speaker 4: seventeen or something like that. 522 00:21:30,200 --> 00:21:32,520 Speaker 2: He said, Sanders should probably be hiring a higher on 523 00:21:32,600 --> 00:21:34,760 Speaker 2: this list. But to be honest, I'm not entirely sure 524 00:21:34,800 --> 00:21:37,600 Speaker 2: what this offense looks like with Frank Wright calling plays 525 00:21:37,600 --> 00:21:41,240 Speaker 2: for Bryce Shong. So he's factoring in some of the expectations. 526 00:21:41,320 --> 00:21:44,080 Speaker 4: Yeah, but obviously he's gonna have a much tougher go 527 00:21:44,200 --> 00:21:46,040 Speaker 4: of it than he did in Philly. Yeah, I mean 528 00:21:46,080 --> 00:21:46,720 Speaker 4: that was as good. 529 00:21:46,560 --> 00:21:48,719 Speaker 3: A situation as you can be in At twenty nine, 530 00:21:48,800 --> 00:21:49,679 Speaker 3: he as Khalil Herbert. 531 00:21:50,280 --> 00:21:52,680 Speaker 4: Okay, it sounds like he's picking one from every team. Yeah, 532 00:21:53,200 --> 00:21:54,040 Speaker 4: I like Herbert a lot. 533 00:21:55,160 --> 00:21:57,680 Speaker 2: At twenty eight he has cam Akers of the Rams. 534 00:21:58,560 --> 00:22:01,000 Speaker 4: Okay, I mean I think he's clear the one. I 535 00:22:01,040 --> 00:22:03,160 Speaker 4: could see him having a decent year this year. Didn't 536 00:22:03,200 --> 00:22:05,120 Speaker 4: really catch football, No, not as much as you think. 537 00:22:06,400 --> 00:22:09,600 Speaker 4: At twenty seven he has Isaiah Pacheco. Oh, I think 538 00:22:09,640 --> 00:22:10,720 Speaker 4: I'd be lower on Pa Checko. 539 00:22:11,400 --> 00:22:13,639 Speaker 3: He did have eight and thirty rushing yards last year. 540 00:22:13,720 --> 00:22:15,840 Speaker 4: I just think his life's a little easier than most. 541 00:22:16,000 --> 00:22:16,479 Speaker 3: A little bit. 542 00:22:16,600 --> 00:22:20,159 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean really good line homes. Obviously kind of 543 00:22:20,160 --> 00:22:21,000 Speaker 4: a straight line guy. 544 00:22:22,119 --> 00:22:25,160 Speaker 2: At twenty six he has Brian Robinson, who actually didn't 545 00:22:25,160 --> 00:22:25,840 Speaker 2: look bad last night. 546 00:22:25,920 --> 00:22:28,399 Speaker 4: No, he didn't, and he caught the ball some last night. 547 00:22:28,800 --> 00:22:31,840 Speaker 4: This is more of a fantasy nugget. But what's interesting 548 00:22:31,880 --> 00:22:35,520 Speaker 4: in the two Washington games, him and Gibson have split 549 00:22:36,240 --> 00:22:37,399 Speaker 4: entirely fifty fifty, been. 550 00:22:37,320 --> 00:22:39,800 Speaker 2: Kind of interchangeable, and they haven't subbed him out, like 551 00:22:39,880 --> 00:22:41,040 Speaker 2: he had four catches last. 552 00:22:40,920 --> 00:22:42,360 Speaker 4: Night, right like I thought he would be the early 553 00:22:42,440 --> 00:22:44,440 Speaker 4: down guy. Gibson will be the receiver. It's more like 554 00:22:44,520 --> 00:22:46,440 Speaker 4: it's as your series, and it's your series, and they've 555 00:22:46,440 --> 00:22:48,200 Speaker 4: almost played equal amount of snaps. Yeah. 556 00:22:48,800 --> 00:22:51,280 Speaker 3: At twenty five, raheem Mostert. 557 00:22:51,920 --> 00:22:52,840 Speaker 4: He'd be lower for me too. 558 00:22:52,880 --> 00:22:54,040 Speaker 3: He's in his ninth year already. 559 00:22:54,160 --> 00:22:55,720 Speaker 4: Yeah. I mean, I don't know. 560 00:22:55,880 --> 00:22:57,600 Speaker 3: He just doesn't hold up. 561 00:22:57,880 --> 00:23:01,000 Speaker 4: He's fast, yeah, and he fits a system, but I'm 562 00:23:01,040 --> 00:23:02,160 Speaker 4: not a big Moster believer. 563 00:23:02,800 --> 00:23:04,159 Speaker 3: At twenty four he has RASHAWB. 564 00:23:04,240 --> 00:23:04,480 Speaker 4: White. 565 00:23:04,960 --> 00:23:06,160 Speaker 3: I don't know if I can go there a little 566 00:23:06,160 --> 00:23:06,600 Speaker 3: early for that. 567 00:23:06,800 --> 00:23:09,560 Speaker 4: Yeah, in his career. Yeah, like frankly, I might have 568 00:23:09,680 --> 00:23:11,560 Speaker 4: James Connor over White. Show. 569 00:23:11,600 --> 00:23:13,879 Speaker 2: White had fifty catches last year, which sounds great for 570 00:23:13,920 --> 00:23:14,960 Speaker 2: two hundred and ninety yards. 571 00:23:15,240 --> 00:23:17,080 Speaker 4: They're all dump offs. Yeah, Brady want to get the 572 00:23:17,119 --> 00:23:19,119 Speaker 4: ball his hands and you know, not take hits and. 573 00:23:19,560 --> 00:23:24,680 Speaker 2: Right at twenty three, Aaron Jones, Oh, that's harsh. 574 00:23:24,960 --> 00:23:25,879 Speaker 3: That is really harsh. 575 00:23:25,960 --> 00:23:28,200 Speaker 4: I mean he's getting up. He's older than you think. Yeah, 576 00:23:28,359 --> 00:23:30,920 Speaker 4: like he didn't come out early like everyone else in 577 00:23:30,960 --> 00:23:34,760 Speaker 4: that class. He's still a really good receiver and super productive. 578 00:23:34,800 --> 00:23:35,800 Speaker 4: I think that's pretty rough. 579 00:23:37,119 --> 00:23:39,639 Speaker 3: At twenty two is where he puts Jamiir Gibbs. 580 00:23:40,280 --> 00:23:43,480 Speaker 4: Oh, I guess he's putting rookies. I'd be hard on rookies. Well, 581 00:23:43,600 --> 00:23:44,800 Speaker 4: I'm gonna say that, and then I'm ms say be 582 00:23:44,880 --> 00:23:49,080 Speaker 4: Jehn should be the tough on. I mean, Gibbs. There 583 00:23:49,160 --> 00:23:52,639 Speaker 4: aren't many backs sub two hundred, and he came in 584 00:23:52,680 --> 00:23:54,640 Speaker 4: at one ninety nine and his combine trying to get 585 00:23:54,640 --> 00:23:57,280 Speaker 4: as big as he possible with his pocket exactly that 586 00:23:57,640 --> 00:24:02,199 Speaker 4: have really been successful lately, like Eckler's is over two hundred. Yeah. Now, 587 00:24:02,280 --> 00:24:03,600 Speaker 4: a lot of people compare him to Deckler. I don't 588 00:24:03,600 --> 00:24:05,560 Speaker 4: think he's nearly as every downish as Eckler. 589 00:24:06,040 --> 00:24:08,360 Speaker 3: At twenty one, he has Bejon Robinson. 590 00:24:08,920 --> 00:24:10,240 Speaker 4: I think that's insane. 591 00:24:10,640 --> 00:24:12,960 Speaker 2: Well, it's kind of like putting a rookie quarterback high 592 00:24:12,960 --> 00:24:14,840 Speaker 2: on a list like this. He's he hasn't really done 593 00:24:14,840 --> 00:24:17,040 Speaker 2: anything yet. Yeah, I mean he said Bijean could have 594 00:24:17,080 --> 00:24:19,159 Speaker 2: a top ten finish on this list to the other 595 00:24:19,280 --> 00:24:20,359 Speaker 2: top three finish. 596 00:24:21,680 --> 00:24:23,760 Speaker 3: At twenty Alexander Madison. 597 00:24:25,359 --> 00:24:30,440 Speaker 4: He had a Madison versus Jean Robinson. I've done something. 598 00:24:30,640 --> 00:24:34,000 Speaker 4: I'm with you, right, you know, I you know I 599 00:24:34,040 --> 00:24:38,640 Speaker 4: could see him having If we're if we're predicting future production, 600 00:24:39,520 --> 00:24:42,160 Speaker 4: Madison should be high. Yeah, if we're judging how good 601 00:24:42,200 --> 00:24:46,960 Speaker 4: a football player you are, he's twentieth or twenty thirty, twentieth, Yeah, 602 00:24:47,000 --> 00:24:48,920 Speaker 4: I mean, but Jon's not. 603 00:24:49,320 --> 00:24:52,960 Speaker 3: Yeah at nineteen, Joe Mixon, I. 604 00:24:53,040 --> 00:24:57,920 Speaker 4: Actually believe that. So we haven't talked a lot about this, 605 00:24:58,240 --> 00:25:00,520 Speaker 4: but I think them losing p Ryans bigger deal than 606 00:25:00,560 --> 00:25:03,160 Speaker 4: people realize. Yeah, p Ryan's one of the top three 607 00:25:03,280 --> 00:25:06,520 Speaker 4: or four protecting backs in the league, and he's just 608 00:25:06,600 --> 00:25:09,120 Speaker 4: one of those dudes that coaches adore because he does 609 00:25:09,200 --> 00:25:12,720 Speaker 4: it all. And I thought Mixon was really declining last year. 610 00:25:12,840 --> 00:25:14,800 Speaker 3: And here us three point nine yards of carrying. 611 00:25:16,560 --> 00:25:19,280 Speaker 4: You know, the podcast I was listening to this is 612 00:25:19,320 --> 00:25:23,760 Speaker 4: actually sort of Steeler esque. But they their success rate 613 00:25:24,080 --> 00:25:29,159 Speaker 4: for the Bengals was really high running the ball, but 614 00:25:29,640 --> 00:25:33,080 Speaker 4: it's all singles. They had the least explosive runs in 615 00:25:33,119 --> 00:25:35,480 Speaker 4: the league, including the Steelers, including you know, and it's 616 00:25:35,520 --> 00:25:38,080 Speaker 4: all and they had a much better passing. 617 00:25:38,240 --> 00:25:41,280 Speaker 2: And I was going to say, because they're seeing Nickel 618 00:25:41,359 --> 00:25:43,800 Speaker 2: and dime all the time, too high all the time. 619 00:25:43,880 --> 00:25:45,679 Speaker 4: Yeah, Steelers get one high all the time with eight 620 00:25:45,720 --> 00:25:48,600 Speaker 4: in the box, and they're doing kind of the same thing. 621 00:25:49,760 --> 00:25:53,320 Speaker 3: At eighteen as de Andre Swift really hard to count on. 622 00:25:53,520 --> 00:25:56,320 Speaker 4: Yeah, his good days are pretty darn impressive, but really 623 00:25:56,359 --> 00:25:57,000 Speaker 4: hard to count on. 624 00:25:58,600 --> 00:26:03,600 Speaker 2: At seventeen Walker, I think i'd have him higher, but 625 00:26:03,680 --> 00:26:05,760 Speaker 2: he's not much of a receiver. Yeah, he did twenty 626 00:26:05,760 --> 00:26:08,159 Speaker 2: seven catches last year, did he really Yeah, for one 627 00:26:08,240 --> 00:26:09,280 Speaker 2: hundred and sixty five yards. 628 00:26:09,359 --> 00:26:11,359 Speaker 4: Just say they're dump off stuff. But that's more than 629 00:26:11,400 --> 00:26:13,479 Speaker 4: I would have guessed. Yeah, and because he was hurt 630 00:26:13,520 --> 00:26:13,959 Speaker 4: for a lot too. 631 00:26:15,040 --> 00:26:17,960 Speaker 3: At sixteen is Travis atn I. 632 00:26:18,000 --> 00:26:20,400 Speaker 4: Think he's super overrated, but I don't have a real 633 00:26:20,480 --> 00:26:23,680 Speaker 4: problem where he's at. I'm sure we've had this conversation, 634 00:26:23,840 --> 00:26:26,720 Speaker 4: but he's like the least efficient short yard is back 635 00:26:26,800 --> 00:26:30,280 Speaker 4: in the world, and he's not a good receiver. No 636 00:26:30,400 --> 00:26:32,439 Speaker 4: One just thinks he's fast, that he's a great receiver. 637 00:26:32,960 --> 00:26:35,040 Speaker 4: He is not. It doesn't leave much. 638 00:26:35,200 --> 00:26:37,320 Speaker 3: At fifteen is Ramandre Stevenson. 639 00:26:40,440 --> 00:26:43,480 Speaker 4: I would put Remandre over Nausey. I think they were 640 00:26:43,520 --> 00:26:46,360 Speaker 4: the same draft class. I'm really really impressed with that guy. 641 00:26:46,400 --> 00:26:47,560 Speaker 4: That's on a knock on Nausey. 642 00:26:47,840 --> 00:26:49,919 Speaker 2: One of the things that I've heard about why they 643 00:26:50,400 --> 00:26:52,040 Speaker 2: they had to go out or why they went and 644 00:26:52,119 --> 00:26:57,040 Speaker 2: signed Ezekiel Elliott. Now, Ramandre Stevenson only lost one fumble 645 00:26:57,119 --> 00:27:00,200 Speaker 2: last year, but he had three fumbles which will get 646 00:27:00,200 --> 00:27:02,080 Speaker 2: you in Belichick's dog goush really quick. 647 00:27:01,960 --> 00:27:04,480 Speaker 4: Tough, tough marriage there. Yeah, because he's really their best 648 00:27:04,480 --> 00:27:05,920 Speaker 4: offensive player and their future play. 649 00:27:05,960 --> 00:27:08,440 Speaker 2: But if if he starts getting loose with the football, Yeah, 650 00:27:08,840 --> 00:27:09,480 Speaker 2: that's a good point. 651 00:27:09,640 --> 00:27:09,880 Speaker 3: Yeah. 652 00:27:10,600 --> 00:27:11,920 Speaker 4: Good receiver though for a big back. 653 00:27:12,080 --> 00:27:12,280 Speaker 3: Yeah. 654 00:27:13,080 --> 00:27:13,199 Speaker 2: Uh. 655 00:27:13,280 --> 00:27:14,760 Speaker 3: At fourteen, he has Brissee. 656 00:27:14,480 --> 00:27:18,160 Speaker 4: Hall when right, I think he's one of the better 657 00:27:18,200 --> 00:27:20,920 Speaker 4: backs in the league. He's a great receiver, he's super explosive. 658 00:27:21,359 --> 00:27:23,639 Speaker 4: We'll just see if it's translated to now. So I 659 00:27:23,760 --> 00:27:25,399 Speaker 4: assume Dalvin Cook won't be on there. 660 00:27:25,560 --> 00:27:27,120 Speaker 3: They have the Jets, he says. 661 00:27:27,119 --> 00:27:29,439 Speaker 2: The Jets backfield we talked about this yesterday is oh 662 00:27:29,520 --> 00:27:32,040 Speaker 2: so crowded, with Dalvin Cook joining bres Haall, Michael Carter, 663 00:27:32,200 --> 00:27:32,879 Speaker 2: and Zonovia Night. 664 00:27:32,920 --> 00:27:36,280 Speaker 3: Well, they also drafted Israel. Yeah right, right a Canada. 665 00:27:37,480 --> 00:27:38,840 Speaker 3: They're not going to keep all those guys. 666 00:27:39,200 --> 00:27:42,200 Speaker 4: That's five guys, right, yeah, four maybe right, You're not 667 00:27:42,240 --> 00:27:44,280 Speaker 4: gonna keep five running backs and you're not gonna trade Hall. 668 00:27:44,320 --> 00:27:46,400 Speaker 4: You're not gonna trade Cook. I mean maybe a dump 669 00:27:46,440 --> 00:27:50,359 Speaker 4: Michael Carter to somebody for a six round pick or something. Yeah, Okay. 670 00:27:51,520 --> 00:27:54,240 Speaker 3: At thirteen, he has Javonte Williams. 671 00:27:54,680 --> 00:27:57,240 Speaker 4: Super hard guy to rank, but on his best day 672 00:27:57,880 --> 00:28:01,520 Speaker 4: pre injury, he's like five six to me, He's really 673 00:28:01,600 --> 00:28:02,280 Speaker 4: hard to tackle. 674 00:28:03,800 --> 00:28:06,639 Speaker 3: At twelve Damian Pierce, I respect that. 675 00:28:07,200 --> 00:28:09,960 Speaker 4: I'm a big believer in Pierce. He's also really hard 676 00:28:09,960 --> 00:28:12,720 Speaker 4: to tackle. Those two are really similar. Yeah, Like those 677 00:28:12,840 --> 00:28:15,320 Speaker 4: tackle breaking numbers PFF has are like the best two 678 00:28:15,400 --> 00:28:17,800 Speaker 4: in college history. You know, yeah, right, hard guys get 679 00:28:17,800 --> 00:28:18,200 Speaker 4: on the ground. 680 00:28:18,680 --> 00:28:20,480 Speaker 3: Eleven is JK. Dobbins. 681 00:28:22,160 --> 00:28:24,440 Speaker 4: I tend to agree. I mean, there's probably some names 682 00:28:24,480 --> 00:28:26,439 Speaker 4: I would put ahead of him, maybe a Kenneth Walker 683 00:28:27,200 --> 00:28:29,800 Speaker 4: that we've talked about, but Dobbins is pretty good. 684 00:28:30,080 --> 00:28:30,280 Speaker 3: Yeah. 685 00:28:30,359 --> 00:28:32,160 Speaker 4: I mean if especially if you give him a break 686 00:28:32,200 --> 00:28:35,840 Speaker 4: and say much of last year he wasn't himself. 687 00:28:35,800 --> 00:28:37,479 Speaker 3: You know, just doesn't catch the football. 688 00:28:37,600 --> 00:28:39,880 Speaker 4: No, No, I think he's capable. Like we loved him 689 00:28:39,920 --> 00:28:41,920 Speaker 4: coming out of state. We thought he might be a Steeler. 690 00:28:42,040 --> 00:28:42,960 Speaker 4: But they don't throw the ball. 691 00:28:42,960 --> 00:28:46,560 Speaker 2: They don't throw the football. At ten is Na g Harris. 692 00:28:47,360 --> 00:28:49,840 Speaker 4: I think that's fair. I think that's fair. I think 693 00:28:49,880 --> 00:28:53,040 Speaker 4: he's a little bit untapped as a receiver. I know 694 00:28:53,120 --> 00:28:55,040 Speaker 4: he caught a million balls with Ben, but I'm talking 695 00:28:55,080 --> 00:28:57,520 Speaker 4: about as a route runner, as a leve Bell receiver, 696 00:28:57,720 --> 00:28:59,360 Speaker 4: and I don't know that he'll ever get that opportunity 697 00:28:59,400 --> 00:29:01,440 Speaker 4: because Warren's so good at it and you don't want 698 00:29:01,480 --> 00:29:04,080 Speaker 4: him on the field all the time. But as you 699 00:29:04,080 --> 00:29:10,080 Speaker 4: always say, trustworthy, tough, bell cow and he fits the 700 00:29:10,200 --> 00:29:12,320 Speaker 4: team well, yeah, you know what I mean. Not every 701 00:29:12,360 --> 00:29:15,080 Speaker 4: team would appreciate Naedgey like Tomlin and the Steelers too. 702 00:29:16,000 --> 00:29:18,160 Speaker 3: At number nine is Tony Pollard. 703 00:29:19,200 --> 00:29:21,640 Speaker 4: I think I'd be lower on him. I mean, I 704 00:29:21,720 --> 00:29:24,160 Speaker 4: think he could have a monster year, like I want 705 00:29:24,240 --> 00:29:25,000 Speaker 4: him in fantasy. 706 00:29:25,280 --> 00:29:27,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, but he scored twelve touchdowns. 707 00:29:27,160 --> 00:29:29,120 Speaker 4: I had a good year, but I don't know that. 708 00:29:29,720 --> 00:29:32,959 Speaker 2: And that's with Zeke. He scored twelve touchdowns. Zeke had 709 00:29:33,000 --> 00:29:33,800 Speaker 2: twelve touchdowns. 710 00:29:33,920 --> 00:29:35,160 Speaker 4: Do you think he gets to twelve this year? 711 00:29:35,480 --> 00:29:35,680 Speaker 3: Yeah? 712 00:29:35,840 --> 00:29:38,920 Speaker 4: I do too. Yeah, I think he's gonna be very productive. 713 00:29:38,960 --> 00:29:42,840 Speaker 4: I just my only knock on him was I don't 714 00:29:42,880 --> 00:29:45,440 Speaker 4: know that he's an every down guy, you know, for 715 00:29:45,560 --> 00:29:46,920 Speaker 4: seventeen games plus. 716 00:29:47,360 --> 00:29:49,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, they'll have to find somebody else to kind of 717 00:29:49,280 --> 00:29:52,200 Speaker 2: do some some of the other stuff. But if he 718 00:29:52,640 --> 00:29:54,480 Speaker 2: just replicates what he did last year. 719 00:29:54,680 --> 00:29:56,560 Speaker 4: That'll be huge. Yeah, because that offense is gonna be 720 00:29:56,600 --> 00:29:57,240 Speaker 4: better this year too. 721 00:29:57,480 --> 00:30:00,080 Speaker 2: I think so too, except Mike McCarthy's not calling in 722 00:30:00,120 --> 00:30:03,560 Speaker 2: the offense. That's really down fault at eight is Jonathan Taylor, 723 00:30:04,040 --> 00:30:06,120 Speaker 2: and we'll see where he winds up at I don't 724 00:30:06,160 --> 00:30:07,680 Speaker 2: know if there's gonna be a trade market for him, 725 00:30:08,400 --> 00:30:08,920 Speaker 2: because if. 726 00:30:08,800 --> 00:30:10,680 Speaker 4: You don't think there's a first round trade market for. 727 00:30:10,760 --> 00:30:12,880 Speaker 2: Now, if you're gonna trade for Jonathan Taylor, you're going 728 00:30:13,000 --> 00:30:14,840 Speaker 2: to have to pay him. 729 00:30:14,880 --> 00:30:15,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, then you're gonna pay. 730 00:30:15,760 --> 00:30:17,719 Speaker 2: Him because they're they're what they what the Colts did here, 731 00:30:17,760 --> 00:30:20,080 Speaker 2: which I think was kind of smart, just say, okay, 732 00:30:20,120 --> 00:30:22,120 Speaker 2: you want to you want to explore trades, go ahead, 733 00:30:22,160 --> 00:30:26,680 Speaker 2: You've you've talked to teams, and that gives you the 734 00:30:26,720 --> 00:30:31,760 Speaker 2: opportunity then to negotiate. Yeah, what the market really is. Okay, 735 00:30:31,800 --> 00:30:33,440 Speaker 2: we're gonna give you a new deal. We're gonna give 736 00:30:33,480 --> 00:30:36,760 Speaker 2: you eight million dollars this year or you know, for 737 00:30:36,840 --> 00:30:37,600 Speaker 2: the next two years. 738 00:30:37,840 --> 00:30:38,640 Speaker 3: Well, he may not like that. 739 00:30:39,120 --> 00:30:42,640 Speaker 4: You might not like that. So I think he's gonna 740 00:30:42,640 --> 00:30:44,480 Speaker 4: ask for like Saquon money. 741 00:30:44,240 --> 00:30:46,240 Speaker 3: Which is like twelve, This is eleven or twelve. 742 00:30:46,320 --> 00:30:48,240 Speaker 4: Yeah, so I think the franchise tags like ten or 743 00:30:48,240 --> 00:30:49,880 Speaker 4: eleven and it's like a million more than that. 744 00:30:50,160 --> 00:30:51,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, he might get it. 745 00:30:52,560 --> 00:30:54,720 Speaker 4: But I can't give you a first round pick, and. 746 00:30:54,920 --> 00:30:57,840 Speaker 3: That, right, that's the problem that becomes a problem. 747 00:30:58,120 --> 00:30:59,680 Speaker 4: Some teams just don't want to invest in running back, 748 00:30:59,680 --> 00:31:02,640 Speaker 4: So that is a problem there. Probably any team above 749 00:31:02,720 --> 00:31:04,520 Speaker 4: here isn't going to try it. I mean, it's not 750 00:31:04,560 --> 00:31:06,360 Speaker 4: an upgrade more or less, so they're not going to 751 00:31:06,440 --> 00:31:09,280 Speaker 4: be interested. But if I'm Miami and I'm in it 752 00:31:09,400 --> 00:31:11,760 Speaker 4: to win it, or Buffalo or Kansas City. 753 00:31:11,800 --> 00:31:14,080 Speaker 3: Then the question becomes can you afford to get. 754 00:31:14,720 --> 00:31:17,640 Speaker 4: People and things like that too? And while eleven million 755 00:31:17,920 --> 00:31:20,240 Speaker 4: is top of the market for a running back in 756 00:31:20,360 --> 00:31:23,240 Speaker 4: the world of just football players, that's not a huge 757 00:31:23,280 --> 00:31:24,400 Speaker 4: contract you get under your gut. 758 00:31:24,480 --> 00:31:26,719 Speaker 3: Problem is he's gonna wint it fully guaranteed. 759 00:31:27,400 --> 00:31:29,200 Speaker 4: I don't know anybody's do that for a running back. 760 00:31:29,680 --> 00:31:32,200 Speaker 2: If if it's a one year deal, you're gonna want 761 00:31:32,200 --> 00:31:32,600 Speaker 2: it full you know. 762 00:31:32,880 --> 00:31:34,800 Speaker 4: Oh, I was thinking, you get he's gonna one extension, 763 00:31:34,880 --> 00:31:35,800 Speaker 4: like a three year deal. 764 00:31:35,960 --> 00:31:38,000 Speaker 2: He may want that as well, And in which case, 765 00:31:38,480 --> 00:31:40,440 Speaker 2: any you know, signing bonus that you give him is 766 00:31:40,480 --> 00:31:42,760 Speaker 2: going to be fully guaranteed. I mean that's gonna be 767 00:31:42,800 --> 00:31:44,520 Speaker 2: the sticking point with running backs period. 768 00:31:44,680 --> 00:31:47,600 Speaker 4: Yeah, I know him and McCaffrey are very different in 769 00:31:47,680 --> 00:31:50,480 Speaker 4: time terms of style. I mean McCaffrey's a weapon, he's not. 770 00:31:51,400 --> 00:31:54,280 Speaker 4: But McCaffrey was traded I think it was Week six 771 00:31:54,960 --> 00:31:58,680 Speaker 4: from Carolina to the Niners and didn't quite get first 772 00:31:58,760 --> 00:32:00,800 Speaker 4: round compensation. There was a lot of things, you know, 773 00:32:00,800 --> 00:32:03,000 Speaker 4: it's more than just a second, but it wasn't a 774 00:32:03,120 --> 00:32:07,400 Speaker 4: first straight up for McCaffrey. And I think McCaffrey, who's older, 775 00:32:08,360 --> 00:32:11,720 Speaker 4: McCaffrey week six last year, is probably worth more than 776 00:32:11,800 --> 00:32:15,240 Speaker 4: Jonathan Taylor right now. And here's the reason why, too, 777 00:32:15,480 --> 00:32:17,880 Speaker 4: is he does more and he's and he's gonna be 778 00:32:17,960 --> 00:32:21,520 Speaker 4: higher on this list. But also, no team right now 779 00:32:21,640 --> 00:32:24,640 Speaker 4: is really short at running back. Yet. Yeah, it's not 780 00:32:24,720 --> 00:32:27,480 Speaker 4: a great time to go shopping, you know. So I 781 00:32:27,520 --> 00:32:28,880 Speaker 4: don't know. I could see him and end up in 782 00:32:28,920 --> 00:32:29,880 Speaker 4: my amb or Kansas City. 783 00:32:29,920 --> 00:32:32,640 Speaker 3: Though number seventy is Alvin Kamara. 784 00:32:33,520 --> 00:32:37,280 Speaker 4: Ooh, there's five names i'd put ahead of Kamara, whose 785 00:32:37,480 --> 00:32:40,640 Speaker 4: career I respect to no end. I didn't think his 786 00:32:40,880 --> 00:32:43,480 Speaker 4: was as bad as Mixing's declined, but I thought he 787 00:32:43,600 --> 00:32:44,920 Speaker 4: was starting to show a little wit. 788 00:32:45,000 --> 00:32:48,240 Speaker 2: He still he had nine hundred rushing yards on two 789 00:32:48,320 --> 00:32:51,040 Speaker 2: hundred and twenty three carries. He also had fifty seven 790 00:32:51,120 --> 00:32:52,720 Speaker 2: catches for five hundred and ninety yards. 791 00:32:54,240 --> 00:32:56,400 Speaker 4: I mean he had three years in a row where 792 00:32:56,400 --> 00:32:58,320 Speaker 4: he cut eighty three balls. Yeah, I mean that's who 793 00:32:58,360 --> 00:32:59,320 Speaker 4: he mean to be part of. 794 00:32:59,400 --> 00:33:02,880 Speaker 2: That might be because of their quarterback situation last year. 795 00:33:03,040 --> 00:33:04,720 Speaker 4: I'm sure Carl will throw to him a lot. Yeah. 796 00:33:04,720 --> 00:33:07,160 Speaker 4: I mean he'll probably have equal those numbers on a 797 00:33:07,200 --> 00:33:08,640 Speaker 4: per game basis. I know he's not gonna be their 798 00:33:08,680 --> 00:33:09,040 Speaker 4: first three. 799 00:33:10,160 --> 00:33:11,719 Speaker 3: At six, he has Saquon Barkley. 800 00:33:12,680 --> 00:33:17,040 Speaker 4: Yeah. Yeah, he still isn't great in protection and still 801 00:33:17,360 --> 00:33:19,080 Speaker 4: tries to hit the home run a little more than 802 00:33:19,120 --> 00:33:24,720 Speaker 4: he should. And five is Josh Jacobs, perennially underrated until 803 00:33:24,800 --> 00:33:27,640 Speaker 4: this past year and underused in the receiving game. 804 00:33:28,080 --> 00:33:29,360 Speaker 2: I don't know that he's gonna have the kind of 805 00:33:29,400 --> 00:33:32,240 Speaker 2: season that he had last year. I mean, he nearly 806 00:33:32,280 --> 00:33:33,560 Speaker 2: four hundred touches last year. 807 00:33:34,920 --> 00:33:36,760 Speaker 4: In the year, some camp would be good for him too. 808 00:33:38,640 --> 00:33:40,280 Speaker 4: He would not be fourth on my list. I think 809 00:33:40,320 --> 00:33:42,960 Speaker 4: Saquana be ahead of him, and I don't think he'll 810 00:33:42,960 --> 00:33:44,840 Speaker 4: be the fourth most productive back this year. 811 00:33:45,400 --> 00:33:49,120 Speaker 2: Four is Austin Ekeler in one hundred and seven catches 812 00:33:49,200 --> 00:33:51,000 Speaker 2: last year for seven hundred yards. 813 00:33:51,000 --> 00:33:53,320 Speaker 4: I think he scored thirty six touchdowns in two years. 814 00:33:53,440 --> 00:33:55,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, he had eighteen last year. He's at eighteen in 815 00:33:55,720 --> 00:33:56,880 Speaker 2: each of the last two seasons. 816 00:33:57,400 --> 00:33:59,720 Speaker 4: I mean, I don't know Maurice Jones drew from a 817 00:33:59,720 --> 00:34:03,840 Speaker 4: whole wall, but I'm sure running backs respect Derrick Henry 818 00:34:03,960 --> 00:34:07,520 Speaker 4: to the nth degree because not many human beings can 819 00:34:07,560 --> 00:34:10,160 Speaker 4: do that. But Eckler's a better FOOTBA player than Henry. 820 00:34:10,239 --> 00:34:12,600 Speaker 4: Right now, here's a name I'm sure is coming up 821 00:34:13,320 --> 00:34:13,719 Speaker 4: at three. 822 00:34:14,000 --> 00:34:14,840 Speaker 3: He has, Nick Chubb. 823 00:34:15,280 --> 00:34:17,279 Speaker 4: I would also put a Chubb over Henry. I think 824 00:34:17,360 --> 00:34:19,200 Speaker 4: Chubb's the best ball carrier in the league. 825 00:34:20,520 --> 00:34:24,440 Speaker 2: Then that leaves at two Derrick Henry and McCaffrey, and 826 00:34:24,520 --> 00:34:25,239 Speaker 2: then McCaffrey. 827 00:34:26,239 --> 00:34:27,320 Speaker 4: Is McCaffrey r one. 828 00:34:28,760 --> 00:34:31,080 Speaker 2: In terms of all around play? Yeah, yeah, I will 829 00:34:31,120 --> 00:34:35,080 Speaker 2: say this about Derrick Henry three and forty nine rushing 830 00:34:35,080 --> 00:34:39,439 Speaker 2: attempts last year in sixteen games, fifteen hundred yards again 831 00:34:39,920 --> 00:34:42,560 Speaker 2: every year, thirty three catches last year for three hundred 832 00:34:42,560 --> 00:34:42,960 Speaker 2: and ninety eight. 833 00:34:43,040 --> 00:34:45,000 Speaker 4: That's a great point. They actually did start throwing in 834 00:34:45,200 --> 00:34:48,160 Speaker 4: the ball and which is easier on him. I mean, 835 00:34:48,800 --> 00:34:51,440 Speaker 4: he's not running Lin Swan routes, you know, But it's 836 00:34:51,440 --> 00:34:53,560 Speaker 4: still it's two yards past the line of scrimmage. It's 837 00:34:53,560 --> 00:34:54,720 Speaker 4: a bunch of three hundred pounds. 838 00:34:55,360 --> 00:34:56,600 Speaker 3: He gets them outside the box. 839 00:34:56,719 --> 00:35:00,560 Speaker 4: Yeah, right, and I think he kind of catches like 840 00:35:00,600 --> 00:35:01,239 Speaker 4: it's a beach ball. 841 00:35:01,320 --> 00:35:04,200 Speaker 3: I mean he averaged over ten yards of catch. 842 00:35:04,640 --> 00:35:05,920 Speaker 4: He had a couple of long ones. I mean a 843 00:35:05,960 --> 00:35:08,560 Speaker 4: couple of real long ones last year. I think they 844 00:35:08,680 --> 00:35:11,759 Speaker 4: worried about him as a receiver because he is a 845 00:35:12,800 --> 00:35:13,920 Speaker 4: locomotive that takes. 846 00:35:13,800 --> 00:35:16,160 Speaker 3: The build up. Yeah, but once he builds up speed, 847 00:35:16,239 --> 00:35:16,800 Speaker 3: my goodness. 848 00:35:16,880 --> 00:35:19,080 Speaker 4: But if he's catching the ball flat footed, he you know, 849 00:35:19,680 --> 00:35:21,880 Speaker 4: but still it extends your career. 850 00:35:22,920 --> 00:35:24,759 Speaker 2: But he's going to draw a swarm every time he 851 00:35:25,280 --> 00:35:28,520 Speaker 2: leaves a backfield. I mean, it's just what's going to happen? 852 00:35:28,840 --> 00:35:31,960 Speaker 4: Would it shock you? I'm not sure if my answers 853 00:35:32,000 --> 00:35:33,879 Speaker 4: yes or no. If he gets to fifteen hundred rushing 854 00:35:33,920 --> 00:35:38,040 Speaker 4: yards again league's worst offensive line, does it matter? 855 00:35:38,200 --> 00:35:39,640 Speaker 3: I think he does it every year. 856 00:35:40,000 --> 00:35:42,520 Speaker 2: Well, he you know, he's got to break away ability. 857 00:35:43,280 --> 00:35:45,840 Speaker 3: So if he breaks a tackle, then you got corners. 858 00:35:46,000 --> 00:35:48,399 Speaker 2: Then you got corners trying to put him down that yeah, 859 00:35:48,440 --> 00:35:50,960 Speaker 2: big man against little man. Big man usually wins. 860 00:35:51,360 --> 00:35:54,520 Speaker 4: Yeah, tax every Thursday Night against the Texans, he runs 861 00:35:54,520 --> 00:35:56,399 Speaker 4: for three hundred or something, but it's year eight for him. 862 00:35:57,600 --> 00:36:00,480 Speaker 4: He's pretty freaky though. He is pretty freaky, like Adrian 863 00:36:00,520 --> 00:36:01,320 Speaker 4: Peterson freaky. 864 00:36:01,520 --> 00:36:03,560 Speaker 2: I think he is another year or two of really 865 00:36:03,600 --> 00:36:05,960 Speaker 2: good production and then maybe he turns into a kind 866 00:36:05,960 --> 00:36:07,040 Speaker 2: of a complimentary back. 867 00:36:07,280 --> 00:36:10,840 Speaker 4: Yeah. But Zeke, Yeah, like his career is going to 868 00:36:10,920 --> 00:36:11,400 Speaker 4: some degree. 869 00:36:11,560 --> 00:36:15,560 Speaker 2: But I mean, yeah, thirteen touchdowns last year, fifteen hundred 870 00:36:15,719 --> 00:36:17,640 Speaker 2: rushing yards in sixteen games. 871 00:36:17,680 --> 00:36:18,880 Speaker 4: I mean he's pretty freaky. 872 00:36:19,080 --> 00:36:19,279 Speaker 3: Yeah. 873 00:36:19,320 --> 00:36:21,080 Speaker 4: I mean, I know he doesn't compare to the all 874 00:36:21,160 --> 00:36:23,759 Speaker 4: time greats statistically, but I think he's a Hall of 875 00:36:23,800 --> 00:36:27,080 Speaker 4: Famer compared to his contemporaries with. 876 00:36:27,160 --> 00:36:29,120 Speaker 3: What he's done, you know, in this in this decade, 877 00:36:29,160 --> 00:36:30,200 Speaker 3: the last four or five years. 878 00:36:30,280 --> 00:36:33,000 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, if there aren't many since. 879 00:36:33,760 --> 00:36:35,680 Speaker 2: If Terrell Davis can get in and based on like 880 00:36:35,760 --> 00:36:38,400 Speaker 2: three years of production, right, Soaken Derrick Henry. 881 00:36:38,239 --> 00:36:40,759 Speaker 4: Because people aren't gonna run for fifteen thousand yards anymore. Yeah, 882 00:36:41,480 --> 00:36:44,479 Speaker 4: em it's you know, life is safe, his records safe. 883 00:36:44,760 --> 00:36:46,799 Speaker 3: Yeah, And McCaffrey is number one there. 884 00:36:46,840 --> 00:36:49,680 Speaker 2: He averaged almost ten yards a catch, and this is 885 00:36:49,719 --> 00:36:51,160 Speaker 2: what the Steelers are gonna have to deal with here 886 00:36:51,200 --> 00:36:54,160 Speaker 2: in Week one, brutal four point seven yards per carry, 887 00:36:55,200 --> 00:36:58,440 Speaker 2: thirteen total touchdowns. Now they have faced him in the 888 00:36:58,480 --> 00:37:00,000 Speaker 2: past and done a good job on him. 889 00:37:00,160 --> 00:37:02,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, but just a different animal. 890 00:37:02,680 --> 00:37:04,920 Speaker 4: He's a different animal, and they deploy. 891 00:37:04,800 --> 00:37:05,880 Speaker 3: More weapons around him. 892 00:37:06,000 --> 00:37:08,719 Speaker 4: Yeah. I mean, if you really focus on him, then 893 00:37:08,719 --> 00:37:11,080 Speaker 4: you're not focused on Kittle or I mean, I think 894 00:37:11,120 --> 00:37:13,279 Speaker 4: they have the best weaponry in the league, and they 895 00:37:13,360 --> 00:37:16,200 Speaker 4: will put him on the field with Mitchell or just 896 00:37:16,239 --> 00:37:19,000 Speaker 4: an old school back here and there and Wes Welker 897 00:37:19,080 --> 00:37:21,440 Speaker 4: into the slot and he runs. He's probably the best 898 00:37:21,480 --> 00:37:23,000 Speaker 4: route runner of any any of these guys. 899 00:37:23,480 --> 00:37:24,520 Speaker 3: His dad was a wide receiver. 900 00:37:25,040 --> 00:37:27,759 Speaker 4: Yeah, and he's more explosive than dad. And he's a 901 00:37:27,800 --> 00:37:29,839 Speaker 4: special player. Yeah. I think he's a Hall of Famer too. 902 00:37:29,880 --> 00:37:32,040 Speaker 4: I'm not the second, but on that path, he's on 903 00:37:32,160 --> 00:37:32,439 Speaker 4: that path. 904 00:37:32,440 --> 00:37:34,360 Speaker 2: I mean he's missed some time and that hurts. But 905 00:37:35,320 --> 00:37:37,320 Speaker 2: Najee Harris not as low on this list as I 906 00:37:37,360 --> 00:37:40,839 Speaker 2: think a lot of Steeler fans. I think, properly something 907 00:37:40,920 --> 00:37:42,960 Speaker 2: you're banging the drum for Jalen Warren to be the 908 00:37:43,000 --> 00:37:46,360 Speaker 2: starting running back. This is more East Jones Drew, ranking 909 00:37:46,440 --> 00:37:48,520 Speaker 2: him and putting him tenth on this list in the league. 910 00:37:48,760 --> 00:37:52,680 Speaker 4: Yeah, and what he does doesn't come easy. I don't 911 00:37:52,719 --> 00:37:56,320 Speaker 4: think he'll ever be a huge breakaway threat, you know, 912 00:37:56,440 --> 00:37:58,920 Speaker 4: like Henry that we talked about. But I do think 913 00:37:58,960 --> 00:38:02,879 Speaker 4: there's some Henry. I am a tough guy. Josh Jacobs there, yeah, yeah, yeah, 914 00:38:03,040 --> 00:38:04,399 Speaker 4: you know yeah Obama guys. 915 00:38:04,800 --> 00:38:07,399 Speaker 2: So you know, I'm not ready to say, oh yeah, 916 00:38:07,440 --> 00:38:09,680 Speaker 2: they need to hit the plunger on naug Harris here. 917 00:38:09,680 --> 00:38:11,319 Speaker 3: I think that's I think that's silly talk. 918 00:38:11,480 --> 00:38:12,480 Speaker 4: No, I think that's crazy. 919 00:38:12,680 --> 00:38:12,919 Speaker 3: Yeah. 920 00:38:13,640 --> 00:38:14,680 Speaker 4: I expect not a good year. 921 00:38:15,320 --> 00:38:17,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, me too, I do as well. 922 00:38:17,480 --> 00:38:19,440 Speaker 2: Anyways, we're gonna get to a break That was Maurice 923 00:38:19,520 --> 00:38:21,959 Speaker 2: Jones drew list of the top thirty two running backs 924 00:38:22,000 --> 00:38:25,880 Speaker 2: in the league from NFL dot Com. He is Matt Williamson. 925 00:38:25,960 --> 00:38:27,880 Speaker 2: I am Dale Lolli. You're listening to the Drive here 926 00:38:27,920 --> 00:38:30,560 Speaker 2: on Steelers Nation Radio. We'll be back with more right 927 00:38:30,640 --> 00:38:30,960 Speaker 2: after this. 928 00:38:35,160 --> 00:38:38,440 Speaker 1: This is the Drive with Dale Lolli and Matt Williamson 929 00:38:38,840 --> 00:38:41,040 Speaker 1: on your twenty four to seven home of the Black 930 00:38:41,120 --> 00:38:43,920 Speaker 1: and Gold SNR Steelers Nation Radio. 931 00:38:48,000 --> 00:38:51,160 Speaker 3: Welcome back. I'm Dale Lollie. He is Matt Williamson, and 932 00:38:51,480 --> 00:38:54,160 Speaker 3: this is the Drive on Steelers Nation radio. You found 933 00:38:54,239 --> 00:38:54,520 Speaker 3: us here. 934 00:38:55,560 --> 00:39:00,160 Speaker 2: We're back again, as I mentioned yesterday, back today. No 935 00:39:00,560 --> 00:39:02,879 Speaker 2: no drive, Tomorrow, no drive Thursday. We'll do a drive 936 00:39:03,000 --> 00:39:06,040 Speaker 2: on Friday coming out of the game, and then next 937 00:39:06,080 --> 00:39:08,200 Speaker 2: week will be all five days and that will be 938 00:39:08,320 --> 00:39:11,719 Speaker 2: the pretty much the regular season schedule the rest of 939 00:39:11,760 --> 00:39:14,920 Speaker 2: the year, games permitting. Like if the Steelers playing on 940 00:39:15,000 --> 00:39:16,920 Speaker 2: Monday night, there's no drive on that Monday. 941 00:39:18,120 --> 00:39:22,280 Speaker 4: So side note, next week's weird. Like all the podcasts 942 00:39:22,280 --> 00:39:24,919 Speaker 4: and stuff I do, it's a really weird content week, 943 00:39:25,120 --> 00:39:27,400 Speaker 4: you know, because everybody kind of relaxes. There's not a 944 00:39:27,440 --> 00:39:28,200 Speaker 4: lot of Moat movie. 945 00:39:28,280 --> 00:39:29,759 Speaker 3: I know people who aren't going to relax. That's the 946 00:39:29,800 --> 00:39:30,760 Speaker 3: guy who are on the bubble. 947 00:39:32,040 --> 00:39:34,600 Speaker 4: It's going to be our anxious weekend and all that 948 00:39:34,680 --> 00:39:36,280 Speaker 4: kind of stuff. But if you guys have any ideas 949 00:39:36,320 --> 00:39:37,880 Speaker 4: for later in the week, shoot us our way. You 950 00:39:37,920 --> 00:39:38,880 Speaker 4: know we'll be interested. 951 00:39:39,520 --> 00:39:42,120 Speaker 2: Can you Pikett talk today after Steelers practice that was 952 00:39:42,400 --> 00:39:44,919 Speaker 2: that didn't end until four o'clock, so I obviously didn't 953 00:39:44,920 --> 00:39:47,440 Speaker 2: hang around for that. He said he still doesn't know 954 00:39:47,560 --> 00:39:49,520 Speaker 2: how much he's going to play. He's going to play 955 00:39:49,520 --> 00:39:51,320 Speaker 2: at least a little bit, he said. 956 00:39:51,160 --> 00:39:53,640 Speaker 4: You know, the impression nobody knows exactly how much they're going. 957 00:39:53,680 --> 00:39:58,640 Speaker 2: Tomlin really doesn't decide that until tomorrow or after practice today. 958 00:39:58,440 --> 00:40:00,640 Speaker 3: I should say, or second drive. 959 00:40:00,760 --> 00:40:03,239 Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, right, but Pickett said, the only way 960 00:40:03,280 --> 00:40:05,040 Speaker 2: you get better is if you keep playing. You only 961 00:40:05,080 --> 00:40:08,000 Speaker 2: get in football shape by playing football. I know we're 962 00:40:08,000 --> 00:40:10,000 Speaker 2: all excited to get back out there on Thursday night. 963 00:40:10,080 --> 00:40:12,040 Speaker 2: It's a short week, so I wouldn't say there's a lot. 964 00:40:11,920 --> 00:40:12,560 Speaker 3: Of game planning. 965 00:40:12,600 --> 00:40:15,279 Speaker 2: We're just continuing what we did in the preseason. We 966 00:40:15,520 --> 00:40:17,239 Speaker 2: just want to work on some small things we can 967 00:40:17,320 --> 00:40:19,399 Speaker 2: work on and put on tape. Really, it's the same 968 00:40:19,480 --> 00:40:21,759 Speaker 2: model that we had this whole preseason. That's kind of 969 00:40:21,800 --> 00:40:26,480 Speaker 2: to me the most impressive thing about what the Steelers 970 00:40:26,520 --> 00:40:26,839 Speaker 2: have done. 971 00:40:26,920 --> 00:40:27,600 Speaker 3: They haven't done it. 972 00:40:27,960 --> 00:40:32,080 Speaker 2: And I understand opponents haven't game plan for them either, right, right, 973 00:40:32,120 --> 00:40:34,000 Speaker 2: right right, But they're just running their stuff. 974 00:40:34,480 --> 00:40:36,319 Speaker 4: They did a little against the Bills, you know, they 975 00:40:36,400 --> 00:40:39,000 Speaker 4: ran off cards that one day, you know, And these 976 00:40:39,000 --> 00:40:40,520 Speaker 4: are the looks you're going to see. They're a heavy 977 00:40:40,600 --> 00:40:42,239 Speaker 4: nickel team, probably a lot of cover two. 978 00:40:42,400 --> 00:40:42,440 Speaker 2: Like. 979 00:40:42,480 --> 00:40:44,960 Speaker 4: I don't think they game plan game No, they ain't yet. Right. 980 00:40:45,120 --> 00:40:47,160 Speaker 4: This left guard doesn't like when you cross his face, 981 00:40:47,719 --> 00:40:49,080 Speaker 4: none of that stuff, you do, any of that kind 982 00:40:49,080 --> 00:40:51,400 Speaker 4: of stuff or these are their strong tendencies or that 983 00:40:51,520 --> 00:40:54,200 Speaker 4: kind of thing. No, So I'm glad he said it 984 00:40:54,280 --> 00:40:56,320 Speaker 4: that way because I wanted to mention this even yesterday, 985 00:40:56,360 --> 00:40:59,440 Speaker 4: which nobody probably would have heard properly. But anyway, I 986 00:40:59,560 --> 00:41:02,200 Speaker 4: think if things don't go well in Atlanta, and I'm 987 00:41:02,239 --> 00:41:03,719 Speaker 4: not making an excuse for them, because this is true 988 00:41:03,760 --> 00:41:06,560 Speaker 4: for all thirty two. As you mentioned, you're running plays 989 00:41:06,680 --> 00:41:10,520 Speaker 4: and that's different than calling plays. Describe well. 990 00:41:10,520 --> 00:41:12,120 Speaker 2: And I think Matt Cannon has kind of said that 991 00:41:12,200 --> 00:41:13,960 Speaker 2: as well, and he said, look, we're trying to do 992 00:41:14,080 --> 00:41:16,320 Speaker 2: some stuff here when we want to get everybody involved 993 00:41:17,080 --> 00:41:17,840 Speaker 2: in the preseason. 994 00:41:18,400 --> 00:41:20,960 Speaker 3: So for example, you never played a time last Yeah. 995 00:41:21,040 --> 00:41:23,680 Speaker 2: You saw Deontay Johnson get three catches in the opener 996 00:41:24,560 --> 00:41:26,799 Speaker 2: and then he didn't have a catch in the second game. 997 00:41:27,280 --> 00:41:29,840 Speaker 2: You know, they went to George Pickens early in both games. 998 00:41:29,960 --> 00:41:32,759 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, you know, everyone to Friarmuth had. 999 00:41:32,719 --> 00:41:36,560 Speaker 2: A catch in the first game, Alan Robinson did not. Well, 1000 00:41:36,600 --> 00:41:38,320 Speaker 2: they went to Alan Robinson a couple of times in 1001 00:41:38,400 --> 00:41:39,000 Speaker 2: his second game. 1002 00:41:39,080 --> 00:41:40,279 Speaker 3: You know, things of that they. 1003 00:41:40,320 --> 00:41:43,040 Speaker 4: Always been really neglected. Yeah, makes some sense. Get Kenny 1004 00:41:43,080 --> 00:41:47,000 Speaker 4: completions that a lot of different people, which also, I 1005 00:41:47,160 --> 00:41:51,040 Speaker 4: honestly don't know how much the Niners study Steeler preseason 1006 00:41:51,120 --> 00:41:51,960 Speaker 4: tape and vice versa. 1007 00:41:52,200 --> 00:41:54,919 Speaker 3: I think you have to, that's what you have. I mean, yeah, 1008 00:41:55,120 --> 00:41:56,440 Speaker 3: because personnel changes. 1009 00:41:56,480 --> 00:41:58,800 Speaker 2: I mean, you know, if you're looking back at Steelers 1010 00:41:58,840 --> 00:42:01,319 Speaker 2: tape from last year, well there's no Isaac sam Malo 1011 00:42:01,400 --> 00:42:03,960 Speaker 2: out there right. If you're looking at the Steelers defensively, 1012 00:42:05,120 --> 00:42:07,720 Speaker 2: that second, the second level, and third level are almost 1013 00:42:07,760 --> 00:42:08,560 Speaker 2: completely different. 1014 00:42:09,200 --> 00:42:10,680 Speaker 4: That's kind of where it's going with it though, is 1015 00:42:10,800 --> 00:42:13,719 Speaker 4: they're at least putting on tape. We got a lot 1016 00:42:13,760 --> 00:42:15,680 Speaker 4: of guys. Yeah, they can, they can touch the football 1017 00:42:15,680 --> 00:42:17,600 Speaker 4: where last year they had five or six and now 1018 00:42:17,680 --> 00:42:18,800 Speaker 4: they have ten or twelve. 1019 00:42:19,200 --> 00:42:21,480 Speaker 2: Now you know even you know after you take the 1020 00:42:21,560 --> 00:42:24,240 Speaker 2: starters out, well, now you're going to throw to Darnell 1021 00:42:24,360 --> 00:42:25,040 Speaker 2: Washington down in. 1022 00:42:25,040 --> 00:42:27,040 Speaker 3: The red zone a lot different than that you had. 1023 00:42:27,120 --> 00:42:29,200 Speaker 2: Where are you deploying Connor Hayward at things of that 1024 00:42:29,360 --> 00:42:31,640 Speaker 2: nature that you know he just didn't do last year? 1025 00:42:31,800 --> 00:42:34,880 Speaker 4: Or The Niners are also a team that doesn't like 1026 00:42:35,000 --> 00:42:38,000 Speaker 4: to play heavy personnel. Defensively, they have these great running 1027 00:42:38,080 --> 00:42:40,320 Speaker 4: hit linebackers. Often, like we talk about with the Bills. 1028 00:42:41,160 --> 00:42:45,120 Speaker 4: But I'm sure Shanahan's going, Man, Canada is going to 1029 00:42:45,160 --> 00:42:49,560 Speaker 4: trot Gentry and Washington out there. Are we going to do? 1030 00:42:49,640 --> 00:42:51,759 Speaker 4: We want to go to a true three four or 1031 00:42:51,880 --> 00:42:53,759 Speaker 4: four to four against that much beat. 1032 00:42:53,840 --> 00:42:57,000 Speaker 3: You got seven guys who are two hundred and eighty pounds. 1033 00:42:56,760 --> 00:42:58,640 Speaker 4: Or heavier, Yeah, that are going to play a lot. 1034 00:42:58,960 --> 00:43:01,239 Speaker 3: That's signific rare, Yeah, rare, right, I. 1035 00:43:01,280 --> 00:43:03,960 Speaker 4: Mean, like Fred Warner's tremendous, But is he tremendous if 1036 00:43:03,960 --> 00:43:06,000 Speaker 4: he's taken on Gentry blocks all day? You know what 1037 00:43:06,080 --> 00:43:08,680 Speaker 4: I mean? Like, so that kind of stuff I think 1038 00:43:08,719 --> 00:43:10,960 Speaker 4: they would definitely be very aware of. 1039 00:43:11,320 --> 00:43:14,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, so I think you watched the preseason to see 1040 00:43:14,560 --> 00:43:16,399 Speaker 2: if there's any new wrinkles that are shown, But you're 1041 00:43:16,440 --> 00:43:18,960 Speaker 2: not really showing any You look at more personnel, I think, 1042 00:43:19,239 --> 00:43:20,120 Speaker 2: in how they're used. 1043 00:43:20,480 --> 00:43:23,359 Speaker 4: So the more I think about it, just in terms 1044 00:43:23,400 --> 00:43:27,840 Speaker 4: of opposing offenses, if I was the Niners defensive staff, 1045 00:43:27,840 --> 00:43:30,799 Speaker 4: I'd be much more interested in watching preseason than if 1046 00:43:30,800 --> 00:43:34,080 Speaker 4: I'm the Steelers staff. I mean, you're you're gonna do 1047 00:43:34,120 --> 00:43:34,800 Speaker 4: it all anyway. 1048 00:43:35,080 --> 00:43:38,080 Speaker 3: The offensive weapons haven't changed, they haven't changed. 1049 00:43:38,280 --> 00:43:40,359 Speaker 4: Shanahan hasn't changed. I mean you know what he wants 1050 00:43:40,480 --> 00:43:43,279 Speaker 4: to do, and you're gonna watch as much party film 1051 00:43:43,320 --> 00:43:46,279 Speaker 4: as possible, not this Lance stuff and Darnfold and those 1052 00:43:46,320 --> 00:43:48,960 Speaker 4: guys too, you know. So, I mean, I know he's 1053 00:43:49,080 --> 00:43:51,239 Speaker 4: very innovative and he has changed over the years, and 1054 00:43:51,280 --> 00:43:52,880 Speaker 4: they run less his z own than they used to. 1055 00:43:53,120 --> 00:43:56,520 Speaker 4: But Shanahan offense is kind of Shannan offense too. 1056 00:43:56,560 --> 00:43:56,719 Speaker 2: You know. 1057 00:43:57,120 --> 00:43:57,319 Speaker 3: Yeah. 1058 00:43:57,520 --> 00:44:00,680 Speaker 2: So you know, to me, that's been something that the 1059 00:44:00,760 --> 00:44:03,000 Speaker 2: Steelers are going out there and winning with their offensive 1060 00:44:03,040 --> 00:44:06,799 Speaker 2: weapons without really Now I'm not going to say they're 1061 00:44:06,800 --> 00:44:08,320 Speaker 2: not trying to win, obviously, they're trying to. 1062 00:44:08,480 --> 00:44:09,960 Speaker 3: They're just running their base stuff. 1063 00:44:10,040 --> 00:44:13,640 Speaker 4: Run their based stuff, right, and that's a new challenge. Okay, 1064 00:44:13,719 --> 00:44:16,920 Speaker 4: can you out fox the opponents that are trying to 1065 00:44:16,960 --> 00:44:20,680 Speaker 4: fox you? You know what I mean. So, but this 1066 00:44:20,840 --> 00:44:23,239 Speaker 4: is the foundation, you know, Yeah, if we can get 1067 00:44:23,280 --> 00:44:25,880 Speaker 4: really i mean it almost sounds like Lombardi, but like, 1068 00:44:26,400 --> 00:44:28,920 Speaker 4: if we can get really good at this short amount 1069 00:44:28,960 --> 00:44:30,400 Speaker 4: of plays, you know, it's. 1070 00:44:30,800 --> 00:44:33,120 Speaker 2: It's what Mike, It's what Matt Cannona told me early 1071 00:44:33,200 --> 00:44:35,560 Speaker 2: in training camp. Now we can run the plays off 1072 00:44:35,600 --> 00:44:36,160 Speaker 2: of the place. 1073 00:44:36,160 --> 00:44:38,560 Speaker 4: The wrinkles, off the wrinkles and Shanahan's like the best 1074 00:44:38,600 --> 00:44:41,439 Speaker 4: in the business at that. They have very everything looks 1075 00:44:41,760 --> 00:44:43,719 Speaker 4: It's almost like a great route runner like Jerry Rice. 1076 00:44:44,400 --> 00:44:46,160 Speaker 4: Every one of his routes the first three or four 1077 00:44:46,200 --> 00:44:48,680 Speaker 4: steps look identical. But then what do I do? 1078 00:44:48,840 --> 00:44:49,000 Speaker 2: You know? 1079 00:44:49,560 --> 00:44:51,719 Speaker 4: And the Shanahan offense is really good at that. I 1080 00:44:51,760 --> 00:44:56,000 Speaker 4: think the Steeler offense is evolving to that, and that's huge. 1081 00:44:56,400 --> 00:44:59,680 Speaker 4: And people use this analogy too, like would you rather 1082 00:44:59,760 --> 00:45:02,360 Speaker 4: go to the restaurant that has six things on the 1083 00:45:02,440 --> 00:45:06,560 Speaker 4: menu or sixty six because they're really good because you know, yeah, 1084 00:45:06,680 --> 00:45:07,279 Speaker 4: there's six things. 1085 00:45:07,280 --> 00:45:10,480 Speaker 2: You know, it's the cheesecake factory, right, you know they 1086 00:45:10,520 --> 00:45:11,799 Speaker 2: get Yeah, there's sixty things on there. 1087 00:45:11,840 --> 00:45:13,120 Speaker 4: I got to figure out what I want to eat 1088 00:45:13,200 --> 00:45:15,719 Speaker 4: and they're all B minuses. Yeah, like as opposed to 1089 00:45:15,880 --> 00:45:17,840 Speaker 4: the Lombardi sweep or you know something like that. 1090 00:45:18,080 --> 00:45:22,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, So I think that's significant. And you know, to 1091 00:45:22,640 --> 00:45:26,560 Speaker 2: your point about watching, you know, if I'm the if 1092 00:45:26,600 --> 00:45:29,120 Speaker 2: I'm the forty nine Ers and I watch all of 1093 00:45:29,280 --> 00:45:31,440 Speaker 2: last year's tape from the Steelers, well you're going to 1094 00:45:31,520 --> 00:45:32,959 Speaker 2: this saying, well, they're not going to use the middle 1095 00:45:32,960 --> 00:45:33,520 Speaker 2: of the field much. 1096 00:45:34,200 --> 00:45:35,879 Speaker 4: I wouldn't take much from last year's tape. 1097 00:45:35,960 --> 00:45:38,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, and all of a sudden, you know, both touchdown 1098 00:45:38,120 --> 00:45:40,800 Speaker 2: passes that Kenny Pickett's frown been middle of the field throws. 1099 00:45:41,160 --> 00:45:42,800 Speaker 2: We didn't see a lot of that last year. So 1100 00:45:42,880 --> 00:45:44,640 Speaker 2: I won a burst of plays or things you didn't 1101 00:45:44,640 --> 00:45:45,600 Speaker 2: see a lot of last year. 1102 00:45:45,640 --> 00:45:47,320 Speaker 4: I mean, it's been twenty years since I was in 1103 00:45:47,400 --> 00:45:51,399 Speaker 4: an NFL building as an employee. I wonder I would 1104 00:45:51,480 --> 00:45:55,880 Speaker 4: do this do coaching staffs have somebody listening to me, 1105 00:45:55,960 --> 00:45:58,680 Speaker 4: not necessarily listening to me and you, but like getting 1106 00:45:58,760 --> 00:46:02,799 Speaker 4: the buzz monitoring. Yeah, like oh, then and everyone's saying 1107 00:46:02,840 --> 00:46:04,440 Speaker 4: in practice they're thrown into the field a heck of 1108 00:46:04,480 --> 00:46:06,880 Speaker 4: a lot more or this has come out, you know, 1109 00:46:07,280 --> 00:46:11,600 Speaker 4: social media stuff that's come out, even from Beat reporters 1110 00:46:11,800 --> 00:46:14,160 Speaker 4: or what Kenny Pickett says or things like that. I mean, 1111 00:46:14,480 --> 00:46:16,239 Speaker 4: could be dangerous. You could fall in the trap. 1112 00:46:16,440 --> 00:46:18,040 Speaker 3: Oh, there's no doubt. Today. 1113 00:46:18,360 --> 00:46:21,880 Speaker 2: For example, the forty nine Ers signed Anthony Miller, who 1114 00:46:21,960 --> 00:46:24,560 Speaker 2: was with the Steelers all of last season and into 1115 00:46:24,719 --> 00:46:28,480 Speaker 2: into OTAs this year. Right right after the draft. They 1116 00:46:28,840 --> 00:46:29,400 Speaker 2: released him. 1117 00:46:30,480 --> 00:46:32,520 Speaker 4: He's not gonna make their team, probably no chance. 1118 00:46:32,960 --> 00:46:34,560 Speaker 2: I mean, he's got a weak to basically to make 1119 00:46:34,719 --> 00:46:38,200 Speaker 2: an impact with that team. He brought him into three. 1120 00:46:38,280 --> 00:46:40,800 Speaker 2: I wouldn't think he would know anything. Yeah, but he 1121 00:46:40,880 --> 00:46:43,080 Speaker 2: brought him into pick his brain, which. 1122 00:46:42,960 --> 00:46:45,840 Speaker 4: Is fine, and everybody does those type of things, and 1123 00:46:45,920 --> 00:46:48,719 Speaker 4: I get that. But my hunch, and again I don't 1124 00:46:48,800 --> 00:46:51,600 Speaker 4: know this. I'm not in their offensive meetings, but I 1125 00:46:51,760 --> 00:46:55,400 Speaker 4: bet when Miller was here with a rookie quarterback and 1126 00:46:55,480 --> 00:46:56,880 Speaker 4: he was hurt that year too, but at least he 1127 00:46:56,920 --> 00:46:59,160 Speaker 4: was in the meeting rooms, you know, and whatnot, they 1128 00:46:59,239 --> 00:47:03,080 Speaker 4: had fewer check say, a fewer answers to defensive problems. 1129 00:47:03,239 --> 00:47:06,120 Speaker 3: We're now they do. I'm sure you know, without a 1130 00:47:06,160 --> 00:47:08,480 Speaker 3: doubt we've seen it in training camp, right, I. 1131 00:47:08,520 --> 00:47:11,239 Speaker 4: Mean, this happens across the league with young quarterbacks. But 1132 00:47:12,040 --> 00:47:14,520 Speaker 4: you got to run the play even into the right 1133 00:47:14,640 --> 00:47:16,920 Speaker 4: call on defense, where Brady never does, you. 1134 00:47:16,920 --> 00:47:21,240 Speaker 3: Know, Yeah right, yeah, So it's gonna be interesting. 1135 00:47:21,440 --> 00:47:25,640 Speaker 2: I'm really you know that the seventeen days off between 1136 00:47:26,560 --> 00:47:30,240 Speaker 2: this final preseason game and when the Steelers open against 1137 00:47:30,280 --> 00:47:31,840 Speaker 2: the forty nine ers, I'm going to be interested to 1138 00:47:31,920 --> 00:47:34,680 Speaker 2: watch the practices because you're not going to show a 1139 00:47:34,719 --> 00:47:36,480 Speaker 2: lot of the wrinkles and things of that nature that 1140 00:47:36,600 --> 00:47:40,080 Speaker 2: you may use against You're going to practice what coaches 1141 00:47:40,160 --> 00:47:44,600 Speaker 2: do is you don't specifically start practicing for your season 1142 00:47:44,680 --> 00:47:46,920 Speaker 2: opening opponent. At least you don't tell the players that 1143 00:47:47,040 --> 00:47:49,920 Speaker 2: you're practicing for the season opening opponent. You'll do some 1144 00:47:50,040 --> 00:47:52,400 Speaker 2: things that, Okay, we want to work on this today 1145 00:47:52,440 --> 00:47:56,120 Speaker 2: because well we're gonna we may use this against San Francisco, 1146 00:47:56,640 --> 00:47:57,920 Speaker 2: but we're not going to tell the players that. 1147 00:47:58,120 --> 00:47:59,680 Speaker 4: We got a double team this defensive end. 1148 00:48:00,040 --> 00:48:03,279 Speaker 2: Nick Bosa, Nick Bosa, Yeah, you know, hey, you got 1149 00:48:03,360 --> 00:48:05,080 Speaker 2: to watch You got to watch the tight end and 1150 00:48:05,120 --> 00:48:06,960 Speaker 2: the run after the catch in this situation. 1151 00:48:07,280 --> 00:48:09,480 Speaker 4: Yeah, things of that makes you more tackling drill than 1152 00:48:09,480 --> 00:48:10,160 Speaker 4: you would. Yeah. 1153 00:48:11,320 --> 00:48:16,120 Speaker 2: So, but they'll really get forty nine er specific after 1154 00:48:16,200 --> 00:48:16,640 Speaker 2: this week. 1155 00:48:16,880 --> 00:48:20,440 Speaker 4: And they're a weird team because I actually wrote a 1156 00:48:20,480 --> 00:48:23,040 Speaker 4: preview for Steelers Digest, and I kind of started it 1157 00:48:23,120 --> 00:48:26,239 Speaker 4: by saying, this team might have the best running back, 1158 00:48:26,920 --> 00:48:31,120 Speaker 4: the best offensive lineman, the best edge rusher, the best 1159 00:48:31,239 --> 00:48:34,879 Speaker 4: linebacker in the whole league, and Kittle's not far off, 1160 00:48:35,120 --> 00:48:37,360 Speaker 4: And they might have the best or one of the 1161 00:48:37,440 --> 00:48:41,920 Speaker 4: top five receiving pairs. You know, like their stars are stars, 1162 00:48:42,480 --> 00:48:46,640 Speaker 4: you know, like they that in itself is a unique challenge. 1163 00:48:46,640 --> 00:48:48,480 Speaker 4: We had to get Bosa blocked. You know, how are 1164 00:48:48,480 --> 00:48:50,400 Speaker 4: we going to beat Maby Williams? You know, right right right, 1165 00:48:50,760 --> 00:48:53,040 Speaker 4: he's not even there, right, yeah, right about that. 1166 00:48:53,280 --> 00:48:55,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's gonna be interesting. We're gonna take another break. 1167 00:48:55,520 --> 00:48:58,120 Speaker 2: He is Matt Williamson. I am Dale, Lolly. You're listening 1168 00:48:58,200 --> 00:49:00,400 Speaker 2: to the drive here on Steelers Nation Radio. We'll be 1169 00:49:00,480 --> 00:49:02,640 Speaker 2: back with our number two right after this.