Speaker 1: This is the most traumatic podcast ever and iHeartRadio podcast.
Speaker 1: Chris Harrison. Coming to you from well not the friendly
Speaker 1: confines of Austin, Texas. This week, I'm actually on the road.
Speaker 1: The beautiful, lovely Lauren Zema has whisked me away for
Speaker 1: a birthday retreat, little birthday gift, a little get away
Speaker 1: and here with friends and surrounded by the ones I
Speaker 1: love and it's been an amazing week fifty two. Celebrating
Speaker 1: fifty two this week. Not a big person that worries
Speaker 1: about age, are you?
Speaker 2: You know?
Speaker 1: I know people that are that hate celebrating birthdays, that
Speaker 1: worry about getting older. I feel like every trip around
Speaker 1: the sun is something to be celebrated, something to be
Speaker 1: grateful for. It is something that I have earned getting
Speaker 1: to fifty two.
Speaker 3: So I'm proud of it.
Speaker 1: Have no problem because I am also having one of
Speaker 1: the best times of my life and loving my life
Speaker 1: right now, so that always helps as well. But yeah,
Speaker 1: so celebrating the big five to two with a bunch
Speaker 1: of friends and it has been a wonderful week. We'll
Speaker 1: have to get back to the motherland of Austin, Texas soon,
Speaker 1: but until then we will enjoy tequila or two and
Speaker 1: some great red wine and some laughs. When we started
Speaker 1: doing the playbook episodes, we immediately got some calls and
Speaker 1: some you know, direct messages on social media about things
Speaker 1: we should talk about. And by the way, continue to
Speaker 1: drop your comments, send us those messages on at the
Speaker 1: most dramatic pod ever our Instagram handle. Let us know
Speaker 1: things you would like us to talk about. I say
Speaker 1: us either myself, I can get an interview or obviously
Speaker 1: LZ will join me from time to time. But the
Speaker 1: first thing that came up, and we heard this quite
Speaker 1: a bit and it was kind of interesting, was to
Speaker 1: talk about the infamous fence jump, the Colton Underwood fence
Speaker 1: jump during his season of the Bachelor. And as funny,
Speaker 1: as I turned fifty two, I think back on you know,
Speaker 1: that was a big part of my life, my adult life.
Speaker 1: I started hosting when I was thirty is when the
Speaker 1: show began, and did it for about twenty years. So
Speaker 1: it took me to about when I was fifty. So
Speaker 1: crazy to think of all the memorable moments, the iconic
Speaker 1: moments that happened, but one that really resonated with you
Speaker 1: was the Colton Underwood fence jump. And it's something that
Speaker 1: I didn't really think about much at the time.
Speaker 3: I mean, it was a wild night.
Speaker 1: There in Portugal, and it was dramatic and it was
Speaker 1: bizarre and all those things. But I never stopped to think.
Speaker 1: Often in those moments, this will be the moment, this
Speaker 1: is the thing that's going to resonate with you. Y'all
Speaker 1: are going to be talking about this and all the
Speaker 1: tabloids and the new and this will be played over
Speaker 1: and over and it'll be you know, memes or whatever.
Speaker 1: You don't often have that perspective in the moment. Sometimes
Speaker 1: you do, for better or for worse. But for this one,
Speaker 1: I thought there were so many other things going on
Speaker 1: in the season. I didn't know this would be known
Speaker 1: as the fence jump season, but it was. And so
Speaker 1: a couple of you you know, had mentioned on our messages, Hey,
Speaker 1: would you talk about this? And I thought, well, if
Speaker 1: we're going to talk about it, I got to call Colton.
Speaker 1: I mean, we have to have Colton Underwood on because
Speaker 1: one thing that's very interesting is I've talked about the
Speaker 1: fence jump from my perspective a few times. I've done
Speaker 1: many interviews, but I've never talked about my perspective with Colton.
Speaker 1: I've actually never discussed the fence jump with him, and
Speaker 1: there's some questions that I have for him because there's things,
Speaker 1: honestly I don't know, because obviously I only knew it
Speaker 1: from my perspective, which wasn't much after, you know, I
Speaker 1: saw him leap the fence and take off into the
Speaker 1: Portuguese countryside. I was pretty much at a loss, literally
Speaker 1: and figuratively. And it was a weird time too, because
Speaker 1: personally there were some crazy things going on back home.
Speaker 1: And I don't know if you guys will remember this,
Speaker 1: especially those in California.
Speaker 3: I know you will.
Speaker 1: There were crazy wildfires going on. The big wildfires in
Speaker 1: southern California around Los Angeles had just started, and some
Speaker 1: friends of mine had evacuated from their house and he
Speaker 1: called me. I was in Portugal in the middle of
Speaker 1: the night, and he said, Hey, my wife, kids, we
Speaker 1: got to evacuate. Can I know you're out of town.
Speaker 1: Can I please come to your house?
Speaker 3: Absolutely?
Speaker 1: So, one of my dear friends moved his family from
Speaker 1: kind of the northern end of the Canejo Valley in
Speaker 1: southern California to my house and it was about six
Speaker 1: hours later when he called me back and said, hey, man,
Speaker 1: is there anything you want me to grab in your house?
Speaker 3: Because I have to leave.
Speaker 1: So what do you mean you can stay as long
Speaker 1: as you want, don't worry about it. He says, no, no,
Speaker 1: We're being evacuated from your house. And I'm like, that's impossible.
Speaker 1: We live in the middle of you know, Westlake Village.
Speaker 1: There's this huge community. There's no way a fire's gotten there.
Speaker 1: And he says, yeah, is coming through the mountains and
Speaker 1: the hills and we're evacuating Westlake Village. And so I
Speaker 1: am and my kids and my ex wife and my
Speaker 1: kids are obviously with my ex they're there in Westlake Village.
Speaker 3: So I immediately call them.
Speaker 1: And now I'm freaking out because it's the middle of
Speaker 1: the night and everybody's being evacuated from their homes and
Speaker 1: this fire is rushing through the neighborhood, and so I'm
Speaker 1: kind of losing my mind and worried about my kids. Clearly,
Speaker 1: I get a hold of them, and quickly I realize
Speaker 1: they are okay, and they're they're getting evacuated, and they're
Speaker 1: they're all together and they're getting their stuff, and that's
Speaker 1: all you care about. There's things you worry about. All
Speaker 1: I care about are they out? Are you safe? And
Speaker 1: so everybody got out safe. But I'm sitting half the
Speaker 1: world away over in Portugal and I'm dealing with Coulton stuff.
Speaker 1: So you know, seventy five percent of my brain is
Speaker 1: worried about my house, my kids, everything going on, and
Speaker 1: I'm watching my security cameras and watching the smoke come by,
Speaker 1: and it's really bizarre watching it from halfway around the world.
Speaker 1: And at the same time, I knew something was going
Speaker 1: on with Coulton. I knew that there was this one
Speaker 1: date that was probably going to be a little had
Speaker 1: the potential to be combustible.
Speaker 3: And this was not.
Speaker 1: Abnormal. This happened quite a bit. I wasn't always on
Speaker 1: the dates, but sometimes producers would call me and say, hey,
Speaker 1: something might be going down tonight.
Speaker 3: Be close.
Speaker 1: You should be around this particular date in the allgar
Speaker 1: Of region of Portugal, which is kind of south of Lisbon.
Speaker 3: By a few hours.
Speaker 1: We were about an hour or so away from where
Speaker 1: we were staying, and so I had to make a
Speaker 1: concerted effort. They said you should be there. Wilson t
Speaker 1: car will come over, and so I'm all dressed up
Speaker 1: ready to go just in case, and so I often
Speaker 1: do this, whether it was Bachelor, bacherrette, or even Paradise,
Speaker 1: where I would sit around for hours on end. It's
Speaker 1: not glamorous, it's not pretty. You're sitting in an old
Speaker 1: hotel room or a control room or a garage or closet,
Speaker 1: and you're just sitting there for hours and hours, and
Speaker 1: oftentimes nothing actually came of it. You know, what we
Speaker 1: thought was going to happen didn't, so it didn't bear fruit,
Speaker 1: and I would just spend the night, you know, watching
Speaker 1: what was going on and go home. Well, this night,
Speaker 1: obviously what we thought might happen did and then some
Speaker 1: were we expecting all of this? No, I honestly thought
Speaker 1: when I arrived, I would maybe just have to go
Speaker 1: talk to Colton and discuss what was going on with
Speaker 1: him and make sure he was okay. That's all we
Speaker 1: really thought. When we thought it would be combustible. We
Speaker 1: didn't think Colton is going to run from the show.
Speaker 1: Our bachelor is going to bolt and go a wall
Speaker 1: and disappear into the countryside. Nobody was prepared for the jump,
Speaker 1: and we're going to talk about that with Colton Underwood
Speaker 1: when we come back. Look, if we are going to
Speaker 1: talk about the infamous fence jump, it really involved two people,
Speaker 1: So I have to bring on the other person who
Speaker 1: was a part of the jump, the most athletic move
Speaker 1: I've probably seen in my life. Colton Underwood joining me
Speaker 1: now as we open up the playbook on the infamous
Speaker 1: fence jump in Portugal.
Speaker 3: How you doing, man, I'm good. How are you? I'm
Speaker 3: doing great.
Speaker 1: You know, it's funny some people have been kind of
Speaker 1: direct messaging and sending us all these texts of like
Speaker 1: things they want us to talk about on our little
Speaker 1: Friday playbook, And they said, would Chris ever talk about
Speaker 1: the fence jump? And I've kind of talked about it before,
Speaker 1: but I've actually, this is weird. I've never talked about
Speaker 1: it with you.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I mean, I feel like, during like the promos and
Speaker 2: press for my season, that was what everybody wanted to
Speaker 2: talk about. But I really, I guess at the time,
Speaker 2: couldn't say that you know what really went on behind
Speaker 2: all of it.
Speaker 1: When I gave my perspective. And then obviously that night
Speaker 1: there was this really kind of gray area where we
Speaker 1: weren't together because you were off in the Portuguese countryside,
Speaker 1: and then obviously I can only pick the story back
Speaker 1: up when we finally found you, and so there's a
Speaker 1: lot to cover that I want to get into, and
Speaker 1: so I will pick it up from my perspective of
Speaker 1: Colton when he was upset walking towards the fence in
Speaker 1: the first place, I thought I had the tiger cornered.
Speaker 1: I thought I had you caged. There's a gate in
Speaker 1: front of you, there's a fence to the left, There's
Speaker 1: nowhere for Colton to go. So that's why I kind
Speaker 1: of slowed down, and I'm like, I'm gonna let him
Speaker 1: have his his because he's going to turn around and
Speaker 1: we're going to talk and we're going to hash this out.
Speaker 3: And that's when it happened. That's when. And here's what
Speaker 3: I want to know.
Speaker 1: First, when did you decide that you were going to
Speaker 1: actually jump the fence?
Speaker 3: What moment?
Speaker 2: Oh, I think, like if you rewatching it, like I
Speaker 2: knew I was like dipping from the show, like midway
Speaker 2: through that date. I think like I looked around the
Speaker 2: room and like normally when you're on a date, there's
Speaker 2: a few producers standing in corners, not making eye contact,
Speaker 2: but like behind camera, Yeah, and like as it was
Speaker 2: going on, there was nobody in that room, and I
Speaker 2: was like, nobody wants to look me in the eyes
Speaker 2: right now and like see what they're doing.
Speaker 4: So like midway through, I was like, oh, I'm piecing
Speaker 4: out of here.
Speaker 2: And logistically I knew there were some challenges because like
Speaker 2: when you're filming a show and you're on a date,
Speaker 2: you don't carry your wallet or passport, You don't carry
Speaker 2: into any of the things you actually need to like
Speaker 2: survive on your own, right. So I knew like midway
Speaker 2: through the date as far as like getting out, I
Speaker 2: would have loved if there was like a pedestrian gate
Speaker 2: to the right of the actual fence, but I didn't
Speaker 2: see anything, and I wasn't about to take more time
Speaker 2: to look.
Speaker 4: So it was sort of a spur of the moment
Speaker 4: thing when I got to the gate.
Speaker 1: And guys, I went back the day after to try
Speaker 1: and recreate it because I'm like, was it as athletic
Speaker 1: as I remembered from the night before, or like, was
Speaker 1: it that big of a deal. It took me quite
Speaker 1: some time because I pulled the footage. Once you leapt
Speaker 1: into the air, you had one hand on the fence.
Speaker 1: Your foot did not touch the fence or the top.
Speaker 1: That was the most athletic part of that is that
Speaker 1: you went from the ground on one side over about
Speaker 1: a seven foot fence to the other's facide and I'm like,
Speaker 1: he never touched the fence.
Speaker 3: You got some ops, man, Yeah, I mean.
Speaker 2: Looking back, it is one of my more athletic things
Speaker 2: I think I've ever done in my entire for including sports,
Speaker 2: just because of the fact that, like I normally don't
Speaker 2: wear boots and jeans.
Speaker 4: I'm a very casual person when it comes to like
Speaker 4: what I wear out. So the fact I did it.
Speaker 2: In like a trench coat slash jacket, I think I
Speaker 2: was wearing maybe in jeans and boots. I was like,
Speaker 2: that just adds to adds to the complex date.
Speaker 1: And that's so it was genuine awe and shock. And
Speaker 1: I don't know, I don't know if you still heard
Speaker 1: this or you were gone by the time I said it,
Speaker 1: but you as soon as you jumped, that's when I
Speaker 1: uttered the famous you just jumped the fucking fence.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't I don't know if I heard that first.
Speaker 1: I was a little in the zone at the time,
Speaker 1: but okay, So here's my perspective, and then I want
Speaker 1: to hear what happened. The reason that I didn't care
Speaker 1: that much that he jumped the fence. When I came
Speaker 1: to work that day, there was a there was a
Speaker 1: car and two security guards standing outside. And not like
Speaker 1: security security, they're just like part of whoever our hired
Speaker 1: crew was in Portugal. We're in the Portuguese We're in
Speaker 1: the aligarf region. We are deep into the Portuguese countryside,
Speaker 1: in a very small town. And so you jumped the fence,
Speaker 1: and I'm like, well, there's two security guards right there.
Speaker 1: They'll keep an eye on him. And he just wants
Speaker 1: to blow off some steam, not a big deal. So
Speaker 1: I'm looking at because I'm not going over the fence.
Speaker 1: I'm looking at how to open this automatic fence. I do,
Speaker 1: and I walk through the fence into utter and complete darkness,
Speaker 1: and Colton is gone. So please pick it up from
Speaker 1: your feet land on the ground.
Speaker 3: Where did you go? What happened?
Speaker 4: Well, I was under the same impression as you.
Speaker 2: I was fully expecting to land on like a crafty
Speaker 2: table like I thought, like I thought food was going
Speaker 2: to be flying everywhere, and I was going to land
Speaker 2: right into a producer's lap and I got over and
Speaker 2: I like looked around.
Speaker 4: I was like, oh, this has to be a joke,
Speaker 4: like nobody's here.
Speaker 2: And it worked, and I was like, all right, well,
Speaker 2: I'm going to just walk towards the light and like
Speaker 2: try to get to a city in some population, because
Speaker 2: we truly were in the middle of nowhere.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and it's two and probably two two thirty in
Speaker 1: the morning by this point.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it was.
Speaker 2: It was definitely early morning at the time, and I
Speaker 2: just sort of headed towards the lights, and I I
Speaker 2: didn't realize until probably halfway through that walk how far
Speaker 2: those lights were actually away from me.
Speaker 4: As I'm like cutting.
Speaker 2: Through people's backyards and hearing wild animals and also like
Speaker 2: hiding from the production vans that are like trying to
Speaker 2: chase me.
Speaker 4: It just it, Yeah, it became it became a chase.
Speaker 1: Did you actually walk or did you jog or run
Speaker 1: what like? Because I I don't know, I'm trying to
Speaker 1: think back. It probably only took me about sixty seconds,
Speaker 1: maybe ninety seconds tops to get through that fence to
Speaker 1: open it up and get through with the crew, and
Speaker 1: there was nothing.
Speaker 3: You were gone.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I definitely ran right after my feet
Speaker 2: hit the hit the fence after the fence jumped, but
Speaker 2: I slowed down. I'm not an endurance acute by any myself.
Speaker 1: I ran with you that that season, you are an
Speaker 1: endurance athlete, please your professional So I.
Speaker 2: Was like, I got to pace myself. These lights are
Speaker 2: really far away. I'm going to keep heading in this direction.
Speaker 3: But it's funny.
Speaker 1: So I got out and it was complete darkness, and
Speaker 1: what I thought there was a dog barking down the
Speaker 1: street to the right, and I thought, okay, he just
Speaker 1: went by someone's yard and there's a dog barking. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna walk down there. So I kind of start walking
Speaker 1: and jogging down this street to chase you down, and
Speaker 1: I realize it's a dead end and you must have
Speaker 1: gone the other direction. So now I've wasted even more time.
Speaker 1: You were just gone.
Speaker 2: Well you want to know, I think, because you know
Speaker 2: how like when things like that happen, you sort of
Speaker 2: block out and you're like, I don't know if I'm
Speaker 2: remembering this point right.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm pretty sure that's their direction.
Speaker 2: I started in where I ran to and I was like, oh,
Speaker 2: this is and I have to run the other way
Speaker 2: back in front of the fence that I just jumped,
Speaker 2: so I have to make up time. I'm pretty sure
Speaker 2: that's what happened, because I do know I went in
Speaker 2: two different directions.
Speaker 1: That one that makes sense, by the way, that was
Speaker 1: that was like a leam Neeson move then, because you
Speaker 1: caused that dog to bark and then ran the other direction.
Speaker 4: You guys went that way as I'm going this way.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you threw me off without even knowing it. That
Speaker 3: well done.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well it was not intentional by any means, but
Speaker 2: it works.
Speaker 3: So I start, you know it, ron it.
Speaker 1: Oh gosh, twenty minutes go by and we can't find
Speaker 1: Colton and we're legitimately all now spreading out like okay,
Speaker 1: let's not worry about the show. Although they kept a
Speaker 1: camera on me, and I start calling people in LA
Speaker 1: and it's in the you know, the middle of the night,
Speaker 1: and I'm like, hey, uh, this is a weird one.
Speaker 1: But we've lost the Bachelor, like I lost a human
Speaker 1: being in the Portuguese countryside.
Speaker 3: So where did you go and what were you doing
Speaker 3: during all this?
Speaker 2: I mean I was doing everything I could just not
Speaker 2: to be found at the time.
Speaker 4: I just like you know.
Speaker 2: I think I said this in some of like the interviews,
Speaker 2: is you don't get you don't get much time to
Speaker 2: like process or be by yourself at all, and sometimes
Speaker 2: like that you know that's what you need. So I
Speaker 2: think I was just trying to be alone. I was
Speaker 2: in ditches, I was in people's backyards. I was next
Speaker 2: to a dog at one point, Like it was, it
Speaker 2: was truly wild. Like looking back, I probably would not
Speaker 2: have stayed out there as long as I did, knowing
Speaker 2: what wild animals exist in the nature.
Speaker 4: But I just needed alone.
Speaker 1: Time knowing you as well as I do now and
Speaker 1: knowing where your life is. Now do you look back,
Speaker 1: You're like, how is that my life? At any point?
Speaker 1: How is how was I running through the Portuguese country
Speaker 1: side trying to, you know, evade producers.
Speaker 4: I mean, honestly, it just makes more sense to me now.
Speaker 2: It's like only like only a gay man can be
Speaker 2: that dramatic on a show. So I mean, to be
Speaker 2: honest with you, I mean I had a lot of
Speaker 2: obvious a lot.
Speaker 4: Of stuff that I was processing internally as.
Speaker 3: The show was going on, clearly.
Speaker 2: But yet like in the micro moments of like okay,
Speaker 2: now this is the only one that I sort of
Speaker 2: wanted while I was trying to like figure out my
Speaker 2: sexuality and it's not happening, and then this is all
Speaker 2: like on top of it, these people don't understand what
Speaker 2: I'm going through.
Speaker 4: I didn't want to let them in.
Speaker 2: So it was it was a tough you know, it
Speaker 2: was tough, and like even I don't know if you
Speaker 2: remember this, but like I think I was. I was
Speaker 2: one of maybe the only contestants that read my agreement
Speaker 2: from like front to back, probably so I knew. I
Speaker 2: think I like knew or remembered reading in there as
Speaker 2: like when you ask for the therapist, the cameras have
Speaker 2: to like legally be like taken down, like they have
Speaker 2: to stop recording. So I remember, like you were like
Speaker 2: calling at me, and I would like I think I
Speaker 2: we went back and forth with like two or three lines,
Speaker 2: and then like my third line was just like I
Speaker 2: need to talk to doctor who a therapist was at
Speaker 2: the time, And I said, the next person I talked
Speaker 2: to needs to be a therapist, and like that's when
Speaker 2: like I remember the.
Speaker 1: Cameras because so but I want to back up about
Speaker 1: five minutes before I we found you, you were in
Speaker 1: a ditch.
Speaker 3: Correct.
Speaker 1: Is this true that you were in a ditch and
Speaker 1: you kind of got scared out of that ditch by
Speaker 1: an animal.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I mean at that point I just was like, okay,
Speaker 2: like this needs to end, because something's going to pop
Speaker 2: out or bite me or do something to me that
Speaker 2: I'm going.
Speaker 4: To need help with.
Speaker 1: And just so we can kind of explain to people.
Speaker 1: So we're in the Portuguese countryside and they don't have
Speaker 1: underwater sewers and where rain runs and all that. On
Speaker 1: each side of the road, there was essentially these drainage
Speaker 1: ditches that were kind of bricked in and they were
Speaker 1: probably like four feet deep, so you could, I mean,
Speaker 1: you could scoot down and want to never be seen.
Speaker 1: And that's where you were when we were driving down
Speaker 1: the road. But you shot out of it, like you know,
Speaker 1: out of a cannon.
Speaker 4: Yeah. I mean, I don't know what exactly it was
Speaker 4: that scared me out of there.
Speaker 2: I think it was just a culmination of the entire
Speaker 2: evening because it went on for a while. I don't
Speaker 2: once again you sort of black out them.
Speaker 1: I would say it was a good forty five to
Speaker 1: fifty minutes that all this took place.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so you don't have like an exact time, Like
Speaker 2: I was like, I don't know how long I've been
Speaker 2: running here.
Speaker 4: All I know is like, it's early in the morning.
Speaker 4: I'm tired. This is useless at this point because this
Speaker 4: city's hours away. Yeah. So yeah, I popped out and
Speaker 4: I was like, I'm I need help. I got to
Speaker 4: get out of here.
Speaker 1: You know, when I found you, obviously, as we laugh, now,
Speaker 1: you were not happy. I was not happy.
Speaker 3: By the way.
Speaker 1: It was cold, I'm running around in my dress shoes,
Speaker 1: and I think I said something to the effect of, like, where.
Speaker 3: The hell are you going. You don't have a wallet,
Speaker 3: you don't.
Speaker 1: Have a passport, Just get in the car.
Speaker 3: Man.
Speaker 4: Yeah, well, here's my question. I've never asked you this.
Speaker 2: Why were you on that day because normally you don't
Speaker 2: go to every single one on one.
Speaker 1: Because I had I had heard the same thing that
Speaker 1: it may be an explosive date because I didn't go
Speaker 1: on every day, right yeah, yeah, And they said, look,
Speaker 1: you probably want to show up tonight just in case.
Speaker 1: Like and by the way, it's not that I wouldn't
Speaker 1: ever do that. I did that quite a bit, but
Speaker 1: probably forty percent of the time and ninety nine percent
Speaker 1: of the time nothing would ever come of it, and
Speaker 1: I would just sit in a hotel room or sit
Speaker 1: in the control room till five in the morning and
Speaker 1: be dressed and ready to go and absolutely do nothing.
Speaker 1: And I thought that's what was going to happen that night.
Speaker 1: I was in there and I was honestly eating peanut
Speaker 1: butter and jelly sandwiches with the producers, and I just
Speaker 1: figured it was going to be a wasted night and
Speaker 1: I would go back home, and that's when everything happened,
Speaker 1: and I'm like, well, let me go talk to them.
Speaker 2: You would have been better off stretching and putting some
Speaker 2: athletic shoes on my friend.
Speaker 1: I know, dude, I ran next to you. It wouldn't
Speaker 1: have helped. It didn't matter. I could have been in
Speaker 1: my PA Flyers, my air Jordan, So I was not
Speaker 1: catching you that night.
Speaker 3: It didn't matter.
Speaker 1: It would have been more embarrassing if we had been trying,
Speaker 1: if I had really been trying to chase you on camera,
Speaker 1: and that would have been how embarrassingly quick you would
Speaker 1: have gotten away from me.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I wish, I wish I would have
Speaker 2: been in a different mindset because I could have had
Speaker 2: a little bit more fun with that, Like that week,
Speaker 2: I just remember sort of those feelings lingered or I
Speaker 2: wish we would have been able to, like, you know,
Speaker 2: ride away, gone back and poke fun at it, but
Speaker 2: it was it wasn't intense.
Speaker 1: Charged as much as we laugh about it now, You're right,
Speaker 1: it was a very intense moment.
Speaker 3: But it's funny.
Speaker 1: I look back, and you never know what's going to
Speaker 1: be the thing when you're shooting a show or a
Speaker 1: season of The Bachelor Bacherette. Even when that happened, I
Speaker 1: don't know. I guess I was naive. I didn't think
Speaker 1: this will be the season known as the fence Jump,
Speaker 1: and this will go down in Bachelor history as one
Speaker 1: of the most iconic moments in television, you know, reality
Speaker 1: television history.
Speaker 3: Did you can you believe that?
Speaker 1: When did you kind of start feeling that?
Speaker 4: Oh? During like press and promo, I same thing.
Speaker 2: Even when we wrapped the season, I was just like, okay,
Speaker 2: I mean I just did things differently and.
Speaker 4: Went about it different.
Speaker 2: I didn't think that moment was going to be like
Speaker 2: I mean, looking back, it was sort of the pivotal
Speaker 2: moment where everything changed. But at the same time. I
Speaker 2: didn't think that was going to be in every single trailer,
Speaker 2: in every single tease, but it wasn't.
Speaker 4: I think it was successful for the promotion of the
Speaker 4: show too.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I appreciate it. You put my kids through college.
Speaker 4: There you go. I'm glad somebody got got compensated.
Speaker 3: For it before I let you go.
Speaker 1: First of all, I appreciate you, you know, diving back
Speaker 1: into Amni Julane with me and going over this fence shop.
Speaker 3: How's life for you? You good? Everybody happy?
Speaker 4: Really good?
Speaker 2: Yeah, married life is great. I'm just in like a
Speaker 2: much different place in life. My relationship dynamic is different
Speaker 2: and way healthier than I ever thought it was going
Speaker 2: to be. I'm just sort of at peace, have a
Speaker 2: good support system out here in LA and life is
Speaker 2: peaceful and really good right now.
Speaker 1: Well, we raved about your wedding on our podcast. We
Speaker 1: raved about your husband, who I don't know how you
Speaker 1: ended up with such a great guy.
Speaker 3: He is unbelievable.
Speaker 4: He's the best. He's the best.
Speaker 2: And yeah, we we listened to that podcast and we
Speaker 2: both he doesn't do any media stuff with me, but
Speaker 2: we both want to say thank you. But because you
Speaker 2: sort of gave us like the perfect recap that now
Speaker 2: we can go back and hit play. You and Lauren
Speaker 2: started to give us the play by play and like
Speaker 2: the behind the scenes look that we because when you're
Speaker 2: in it just really focused.
Speaker 4: On what you got to do. But it was really
Speaker 4: beautiful and it was really cool for you guys to
Speaker 4: do that.
Speaker 2: So thank you a mental lot and we were sort
Speaker 2: of smiling you to hear as we listened back on
Speaker 2: the weekend.
Speaker 1: Well, it was all out of love and Lauren and I,
Speaker 1: as our wedding approaches, we are definitely reaching out to
Speaker 1: your coach because he was the hit of the wedding.
Speaker 1: I'm telling you this guy. Hire him for every wedding
Speaker 1: in the world.
Speaker 4: He is I was going to ask for your better
Speaker 4: hohold was is she there celebrating somewhere with you?
Speaker 1: She actually is here. She's here, and she told me
Speaker 1: to send her love and say.
Speaker 3: Hello to you.
Speaker 4: Well send mine back to her.
Speaker 1: Hey, Colton Underwood, I appreciate it, my friend and spending
Speaker 1: a little time opening up the playbook with us this week.
Speaker 3: Thank you, Thank you, thanks for listening.
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