1 00:00:01,000 --> 00:00:06,000 Speaker 1: This is the most traumatic podcast ever and iHeartRadio podcast. 2 00:00:07,480 --> 00:00:10,920 Speaker 1: Chris Harrison. Coming to you from well not the friendly 3 00:00:11,400 --> 00:00:14,840 Speaker 1: confines of Austin, Texas. This week, I'm actually on the road. 4 00:00:16,160 --> 00:00:20,640 Speaker 1: The beautiful, lovely Lauren Zema has whisked me away for 5 00:00:20,880 --> 00:00:24,840 Speaker 1: a birthday retreat, little birthday gift, a little get away 6 00:00:25,400 --> 00:00:29,080 Speaker 1: and here with friends and surrounded by the ones I 7 00:00:29,120 --> 00:00:33,360 Speaker 1: love and it's been an amazing week fifty two. Celebrating 8 00:00:33,880 --> 00:00:38,600 Speaker 1: fifty two this week. Not a big person that worries 9 00:00:38,640 --> 00:00:41,400 Speaker 1: about age, are you? 10 00:00:41,400 --> 00:00:41,519 Speaker 2: You know? 11 00:00:41,600 --> 00:00:44,760 Speaker 1: I know people that are that hate celebrating birthdays, that 12 00:00:44,880 --> 00:00:48,400 Speaker 1: worry about getting older. I feel like every trip around 13 00:00:48,440 --> 00:00:50,640 Speaker 1: the sun is something to be celebrated, something to be 14 00:00:50,680 --> 00:00:53,640 Speaker 1: grateful for. It is something that I have earned getting 15 00:00:53,640 --> 00:00:54,360 Speaker 1: to fifty two. 16 00:00:55,160 --> 00:00:55,880 Speaker 3: So I'm proud of it. 17 00:00:56,680 --> 00:01:00,240 Speaker 1: Have no problem because I am also having one of 18 00:01:00,240 --> 00:01:02,760 Speaker 1: the best times of my life and loving my life 19 00:01:02,800 --> 00:01:06,520 Speaker 1: right now, so that always helps as well. But yeah, 20 00:01:06,520 --> 00:01:09,440 Speaker 1: so celebrating the big five to two with a bunch 21 00:01:09,520 --> 00:01:12,440 Speaker 1: of friends and it has been a wonderful week. We'll 22 00:01:12,440 --> 00:01:15,160 Speaker 1: have to get back to the motherland of Austin, Texas soon, 23 00:01:15,640 --> 00:01:19,840 Speaker 1: but until then we will enjoy tequila or two and 24 00:01:19,920 --> 00:01:26,080 Speaker 1: some great red wine and some laughs. When we started 25 00:01:26,080 --> 00:01:31,200 Speaker 1: doing the playbook episodes, we immediately got some calls and 26 00:01:31,240 --> 00:01:35,040 Speaker 1: some you know, direct messages on social media about things 27 00:01:35,120 --> 00:01:37,440 Speaker 1: we should talk about. And by the way, continue to 28 00:01:37,520 --> 00:01:41,400 Speaker 1: drop your comments, send us those messages on at the 29 00:01:41,440 --> 00:01:45,720 Speaker 1: most dramatic pod ever our Instagram handle. Let us know 30 00:01:45,880 --> 00:01:47,880 Speaker 1: things you would like us to talk about. I say 31 00:01:47,960 --> 00:01:51,080 Speaker 1: us either myself, I can get an interview or obviously 32 00:01:51,560 --> 00:01:54,400 Speaker 1: LZ will join me from time to time. But the 33 00:01:54,440 --> 00:01:57,240 Speaker 1: first thing that came up, and we heard this quite 34 00:01:57,280 --> 00:02:02,880 Speaker 1: a bit and it was kind of interesting, was to 35 00:02:03,000 --> 00:02:08,480 Speaker 1: talk about the infamous fence jump, the Colton Underwood fence 36 00:02:08,600 --> 00:02:12,840 Speaker 1: jump during his season of the Bachelor. And as funny, 37 00:02:13,000 --> 00:02:16,360 Speaker 1: as I turned fifty two, I think back on you know, 38 00:02:16,360 --> 00:02:19,040 Speaker 1: that was a big part of my life, my adult life. 39 00:02:19,080 --> 00:02:22,600 Speaker 1: I started hosting when I was thirty is when the 40 00:02:22,639 --> 00:02:26,040 Speaker 1: show began, and did it for about twenty years. So 41 00:02:26,120 --> 00:02:28,480 Speaker 1: it took me to about when I was fifty. So 42 00:02:28,680 --> 00:02:32,200 Speaker 1: crazy to think of all the memorable moments, the iconic 43 00:02:32,280 --> 00:02:34,920 Speaker 1: moments that happened, but one that really resonated with you 44 00:02:36,040 --> 00:02:38,600 Speaker 1: was the Colton Underwood fence jump. And it's something that 45 00:02:38,680 --> 00:02:41,440 Speaker 1: I didn't really think about much at the time. 46 00:02:41,520 --> 00:02:43,079 Speaker 3: I mean, it was a wild night. 47 00:02:42,960 --> 00:02:46,920 Speaker 1: There in Portugal, and it was dramatic and it was 48 00:02:47,120 --> 00:02:50,440 Speaker 1: bizarre and all those things. But I never stopped to think. 49 00:02:50,880 --> 00:02:54,680 Speaker 1: Often in those moments, this will be the moment, this 50 00:02:54,760 --> 00:02:57,040 Speaker 1: is the thing that's going to resonate with you. Y'all 51 00:02:57,080 --> 00:02:58,920 Speaker 1: are going to be talking about this and all the 52 00:02:58,960 --> 00:03:01,560 Speaker 1: tabloids and the new and this will be played over 53 00:03:01,600 --> 00:03:04,320 Speaker 1: and over and it'll be you know, memes or whatever. 54 00:03:05,720 --> 00:03:09,280 Speaker 1: You don't often have that perspective in the moment. Sometimes 55 00:03:09,280 --> 00:03:12,799 Speaker 1: you do, for better or for worse. But for this one, 56 00:03:13,080 --> 00:03:15,400 Speaker 1: I thought there were so many other things going on 57 00:03:15,440 --> 00:03:18,079 Speaker 1: in the season. I didn't know this would be known 58 00:03:18,160 --> 00:03:21,960 Speaker 1: as the fence jump season, but it was. And so 59 00:03:22,080 --> 00:03:25,720 Speaker 1: a couple of you you know, had mentioned on our messages, Hey, 60 00:03:25,720 --> 00:03:28,680 Speaker 1: would you talk about this? And I thought, well, if 61 00:03:28,720 --> 00:03:31,480 Speaker 1: we're going to talk about it, I got to call Colton. 62 00:03:32,160 --> 00:03:35,360 Speaker 1: I mean, we have to have Colton Underwood on because 63 00:03:35,440 --> 00:03:38,160 Speaker 1: one thing that's very interesting is I've talked about the 64 00:03:38,160 --> 00:03:40,640 Speaker 1: fence jump from my perspective a few times. I've done 65 00:03:40,640 --> 00:03:46,680 Speaker 1: many interviews, but I've never talked about my perspective with Colton. 66 00:03:46,960 --> 00:03:50,280 Speaker 1: I've actually never discussed the fence jump with him, and 67 00:03:51,320 --> 00:03:54,240 Speaker 1: there's some questions that I have for him because there's things, 68 00:03:54,280 --> 00:03:56,640 Speaker 1: honestly I don't know, because obviously I only knew it 69 00:03:56,920 --> 00:04:00,600 Speaker 1: from my perspective, which wasn't much after, you know, I 70 00:04:00,640 --> 00:04:03,160 Speaker 1: saw him leap the fence and take off into the 71 00:04:03,280 --> 00:04:07,840 Speaker 1: Portuguese countryside. I was pretty much at a loss, literally 72 00:04:07,920 --> 00:04:12,320 Speaker 1: and figuratively. And it was a weird time too, because 73 00:04:12,520 --> 00:04:17,159 Speaker 1: personally there were some crazy things going on back home. 74 00:04:18,200 --> 00:04:20,400 Speaker 1: And I don't know if you guys will remember this, 75 00:04:20,680 --> 00:04:22,120 Speaker 1: especially those in California. 76 00:04:22,160 --> 00:04:22,880 Speaker 3: I know you will. 77 00:04:23,480 --> 00:04:29,560 Speaker 1: There were crazy wildfires going on. The big wildfires in 78 00:04:29,600 --> 00:04:34,400 Speaker 1: southern California around Los Angeles had just started, and some 79 00:04:34,520 --> 00:04:38,560 Speaker 1: friends of mine had evacuated from their house and he 80 00:04:38,600 --> 00:04:40,200 Speaker 1: called me. I was in Portugal in the middle of 81 00:04:40,200 --> 00:04:42,599 Speaker 1: the night, and he said, Hey, my wife, kids, we 82 00:04:42,640 --> 00:04:44,640 Speaker 1: got to evacuate. Can I know you're out of town. 83 00:04:44,680 --> 00:04:46,200 Speaker 1: Can I please come to your house? 84 00:04:46,760 --> 00:04:47,400 Speaker 3: Absolutely? 85 00:04:47,760 --> 00:04:51,000 Speaker 1: So, one of my dear friends moved his family from 86 00:04:51,120 --> 00:04:53,920 Speaker 1: kind of the northern end of the Canejo Valley in 87 00:04:54,000 --> 00:04:57,719 Speaker 1: southern California to my house and it was about six 88 00:04:57,760 --> 00:05:00,120 Speaker 1: hours later when he called me back and said, hey, man, 89 00:05:00,400 --> 00:05:02,440 Speaker 1: is there anything you want me to grab in your house? 90 00:05:02,480 --> 00:05:03,520 Speaker 3: Because I have to leave. 91 00:05:04,040 --> 00:05:05,520 Speaker 1: So what do you mean you can stay as long 92 00:05:05,560 --> 00:05:07,400 Speaker 1: as you want, don't worry about it. He says, no, no, 93 00:05:08,120 --> 00:05:13,480 Speaker 1: We're being evacuated from your house. And I'm like, that's impossible. 94 00:05:13,960 --> 00:05:16,359 Speaker 1: We live in the middle of you know, Westlake Village. 95 00:05:17,120 --> 00:05:20,960 Speaker 1: There's this huge community. There's no way a fire's gotten there. 96 00:05:21,000 --> 00:05:23,320 Speaker 1: And he says, yeah, is coming through the mountains and 97 00:05:23,360 --> 00:05:27,240 Speaker 1: the hills and we're evacuating Westlake Village. And so I 98 00:05:27,279 --> 00:05:29,920 Speaker 1: am and my kids and my ex wife and my 99 00:05:30,000 --> 00:05:33,480 Speaker 1: kids are obviously with my ex they're there in Westlake Village. 100 00:05:33,520 --> 00:05:35,080 Speaker 3: So I immediately call them. 101 00:05:35,279 --> 00:05:37,760 Speaker 1: And now I'm freaking out because it's the middle of 102 00:05:37,760 --> 00:05:40,440 Speaker 1: the night and everybody's being evacuated from their homes and 103 00:05:40,480 --> 00:05:43,920 Speaker 1: this fire is rushing through the neighborhood, and so I'm 104 00:05:44,000 --> 00:05:46,520 Speaker 1: kind of losing my mind and worried about my kids. Clearly, 105 00:05:47,000 --> 00:05:49,240 Speaker 1: I get a hold of them, and quickly I realize 106 00:05:49,240 --> 00:05:51,800 Speaker 1: they are okay, and they're they're getting evacuated, and they're 107 00:05:51,839 --> 00:05:53,600 Speaker 1: they're all together and they're getting their stuff, and that's 108 00:05:53,640 --> 00:05:57,400 Speaker 1: all you care about. There's things you worry about. All 109 00:05:57,440 --> 00:06:00,240 Speaker 1: I care about are they out? Are you safe? And 110 00:06:00,279 --> 00:06:03,840 Speaker 1: so everybody got out safe. But I'm sitting half the 111 00:06:03,839 --> 00:06:07,840 Speaker 1: world away over in Portugal and I'm dealing with Coulton stuff. 112 00:06:08,520 --> 00:06:11,960 Speaker 1: So you know, seventy five percent of my brain is 113 00:06:12,000 --> 00:06:15,880 Speaker 1: worried about my house, my kids, everything going on, and 114 00:06:15,920 --> 00:06:19,279 Speaker 1: I'm watching my security cameras and watching the smoke come by, 115 00:06:19,400 --> 00:06:22,599 Speaker 1: and it's really bizarre watching it from halfway around the world. 116 00:06:23,040 --> 00:06:25,360 Speaker 1: And at the same time, I knew something was going 117 00:06:25,360 --> 00:06:28,160 Speaker 1: on with Coulton. I knew that there was this one 118 00:06:28,320 --> 00:06:32,400 Speaker 1: date that was probably going to be a little had 119 00:06:32,400 --> 00:06:34,960 Speaker 1: the potential to be combustible. 120 00:06:35,440 --> 00:06:36,480 Speaker 3: And this was not. 121 00:06:37,920 --> 00:06:40,960 Speaker 1: Abnormal. This happened quite a bit. I wasn't always on 122 00:06:41,040 --> 00:06:44,120 Speaker 1: the dates, but sometimes producers would call me and say, hey, 123 00:06:44,640 --> 00:06:46,240 Speaker 1: something might be going down tonight. 124 00:06:46,680 --> 00:06:47,280 Speaker 3: Be close. 125 00:06:47,680 --> 00:06:51,120 Speaker 1: You should be around this particular date in the allgar 126 00:06:51,160 --> 00:06:53,960 Speaker 1: Of region of Portugal, which is kind of south of Lisbon. 127 00:06:54,000 --> 00:06:55,120 Speaker 3: By a few hours. 128 00:06:55,560 --> 00:06:57,880 Speaker 1: We were about an hour or so away from where 129 00:06:57,880 --> 00:06:59,480 Speaker 1: we were staying, and so I had to make a 130 00:06:59,520 --> 00:07:02,080 Speaker 1: concerted effort. They said you should be there. Wilson t 131 00:07:02,160 --> 00:07:03,839 Speaker 1: car will come over, and so I'm all dressed up 132 00:07:03,880 --> 00:07:06,039 Speaker 1: ready to go just in case, and so I often 133 00:07:06,080 --> 00:07:09,159 Speaker 1: do this, whether it was Bachelor, bacherrette, or even Paradise, 134 00:07:09,480 --> 00:07:11,920 Speaker 1: where I would sit around for hours on end. It's 135 00:07:11,960 --> 00:07:14,640 Speaker 1: not glamorous, it's not pretty. You're sitting in an old 136 00:07:14,680 --> 00:07:18,400 Speaker 1: hotel room or a control room or a garage or closet, 137 00:07:18,440 --> 00:07:21,240 Speaker 1: and you're just sitting there for hours and hours, and 138 00:07:21,320 --> 00:07:24,760 Speaker 1: oftentimes nothing actually came of it. You know, what we 139 00:07:24,840 --> 00:07:27,080 Speaker 1: thought was going to happen didn't, so it didn't bear fruit, 140 00:07:27,080 --> 00:07:29,520 Speaker 1: and I would just spend the night, you know, watching 141 00:07:29,560 --> 00:07:32,280 Speaker 1: what was going on and go home. Well, this night, 142 00:07:32,400 --> 00:07:36,880 Speaker 1: obviously what we thought might happen did and then some 143 00:07:37,600 --> 00:07:40,840 Speaker 1: were we expecting all of this? No, I honestly thought 144 00:07:41,720 --> 00:07:44,720 Speaker 1: when I arrived, I would maybe just have to go 145 00:07:44,760 --> 00:07:47,560 Speaker 1: talk to Colton and discuss what was going on with 146 00:07:47,680 --> 00:07:50,880 Speaker 1: him and make sure he was okay. That's all we 147 00:07:50,920 --> 00:07:53,440 Speaker 1: really thought. When we thought it would be combustible. We 148 00:07:53,480 --> 00:07:56,840 Speaker 1: didn't think Colton is going to run from the show. 149 00:07:57,800 --> 00:08:01,560 Speaker 1: Our bachelor is going to bolt and go a wall 150 00:08:02,000 --> 00:08:08,360 Speaker 1: and disappear into the countryside. Nobody was prepared for the jump, 151 00:08:09,240 --> 00:08:13,080 Speaker 1: and we're going to talk about that with Colton Underwood 152 00:08:13,560 --> 00:08:26,920 Speaker 1: when we come back. Look, if we are going to 153 00:08:26,960 --> 00:08:31,200 Speaker 1: talk about the infamous fence jump, it really involved two people, 154 00:08:31,680 --> 00:08:33,880 Speaker 1: So I have to bring on the other person who 155 00:08:33,960 --> 00:08:36,400 Speaker 1: was a part of the jump, the most athletic move 156 00:08:36,440 --> 00:08:40,200 Speaker 1: I've probably seen in my life. Colton Underwood joining me 157 00:08:40,280 --> 00:08:43,960 Speaker 1: now as we open up the playbook on the infamous 158 00:08:44,000 --> 00:08:45,120 Speaker 1: fence jump in Portugal. 159 00:08:45,160 --> 00:08:48,040 Speaker 3: How you doing, man, I'm good. How are you? I'm 160 00:08:48,040 --> 00:08:48,600 Speaker 3: doing great. 161 00:08:49,200 --> 00:08:52,120 Speaker 1: You know, it's funny some people have been kind of 162 00:08:52,240 --> 00:08:55,120 Speaker 1: direct messaging and sending us all these texts of like 163 00:08:55,200 --> 00:08:57,560 Speaker 1: things they want us to talk about on our little 164 00:08:57,600 --> 00:08:59,880 Speaker 1: Friday playbook, And they said, would Chris ever talk about 165 00:09:00,160 --> 00:09:03,720 Speaker 1: the fence jump? And I've kind of talked about it before, 166 00:09:03,960 --> 00:09:06,720 Speaker 1: but I've actually, this is weird. I've never talked about 167 00:09:06,720 --> 00:09:07,240 Speaker 1: it with you. 168 00:09:07,720 --> 00:09:08,160 Speaker 4: Yeah. 169 00:09:08,240 --> 00:09:11,080 Speaker 2: I mean, I feel like, during like the promos and 170 00:09:11,120 --> 00:09:14,520 Speaker 2: press for my season, that was what everybody wanted to 171 00:09:14,559 --> 00:09:17,120 Speaker 2: talk about. But I really, I guess at the time, 172 00:09:17,160 --> 00:09:20,400 Speaker 2: couldn't say that you know what really went on behind 173 00:09:20,440 --> 00:09:21,000 Speaker 2: all of it. 174 00:09:20,920 --> 00:09:23,720 Speaker 1: When I gave my perspective. And then obviously that night 175 00:09:23,800 --> 00:09:26,320 Speaker 1: there was this really kind of gray area where we 176 00:09:26,320 --> 00:09:28,960 Speaker 1: weren't together because you were off in the Portuguese countryside, 177 00:09:29,080 --> 00:09:31,079 Speaker 1: and then obviously I can only pick the story back 178 00:09:31,160 --> 00:09:36,080 Speaker 1: up when we finally found you, and so there's a 179 00:09:36,120 --> 00:09:38,280 Speaker 1: lot to cover that I want to get into, and 180 00:09:38,360 --> 00:09:42,120 Speaker 1: so I will pick it up from my perspective of 181 00:09:42,280 --> 00:09:45,720 Speaker 1: Colton when he was upset walking towards the fence in 182 00:09:45,760 --> 00:09:49,920 Speaker 1: the first place, I thought I had the tiger cornered. 183 00:09:50,080 --> 00:09:52,280 Speaker 1: I thought I had you caged. There's a gate in 184 00:09:52,320 --> 00:09:54,720 Speaker 1: front of you, there's a fence to the left, There's 185 00:09:54,720 --> 00:09:57,400 Speaker 1: nowhere for Colton to go. So that's why I kind 186 00:09:57,400 --> 00:09:59,200 Speaker 1: of slowed down, and I'm like, I'm gonna let him 187 00:09:59,240 --> 00:10:02,520 Speaker 1: have his his because he's going to turn around and 188 00:10:02,559 --> 00:10:04,760 Speaker 1: we're going to talk and we're going to hash this out. 189 00:10:04,920 --> 00:10:08,480 Speaker 3: And that's when it happened. That's when. And here's what 190 00:10:08,520 --> 00:10:09,000 Speaker 3: I want to know. 191 00:10:09,080 --> 00:10:12,199 Speaker 1: First, when did you decide that you were going to 192 00:10:12,280 --> 00:10:13,360 Speaker 1: actually jump the fence? 193 00:10:13,559 --> 00:10:14,200 Speaker 3: What moment? 194 00:10:14,640 --> 00:10:17,240 Speaker 2: Oh, I think, like if you rewatching it, like I 195 00:10:17,320 --> 00:10:21,040 Speaker 2: knew I was like dipping from the show, like midway 196 00:10:21,080 --> 00:10:23,480 Speaker 2: through that date. I think like I looked around the 197 00:10:23,559 --> 00:10:25,640 Speaker 2: room and like normally when you're on a date, there's 198 00:10:25,760 --> 00:10:29,200 Speaker 2: a few producers standing in corners, not making eye contact, 199 00:10:29,240 --> 00:10:31,880 Speaker 2: but like behind camera, Yeah, and like as it was 200 00:10:31,920 --> 00:10:34,480 Speaker 2: going on, there was nobody in that room, and I 201 00:10:34,520 --> 00:10:36,440 Speaker 2: was like, nobody wants to look me in the eyes 202 00:10:36,520 --> 00:10:38,720 Speaker 2: right now and like see what they're doing. 203 00:10:39,440 --> 00:10:41,960 Speaker 4: So like midway through, I was like, oh, I'm piecing 204 00:10:42,040 --> 00:10:42,480 Speaker 4: out of here. 205 00:10:42,559 --> 00:10:46,000 Speaker 2: And logistically I knew there were some challenges because like 206 00:10:46,280 --> 00:10:48,520 Speaker 2: when you're filming a show and you're on a date, 207 00:10:48,600 --> 00:10:51,960 Speaker 2: you don't carry your wallet or passport, You don't carry 208 00:10:52,000 --> 00:10:54,120 Speaker 2: into any of the things you actually need to like 209 00:10:55,040 --> 00:10:58,680 Speaker 2: survive on your own, right. So I knew like midway 210 00:10:58,679 --> 00:11:01,280 Speaker 2: through the date as far as like getting out, I 211 00:11:01,280 --> 00:11:03,520 Speaker 2: would have loved if there was like a pedestrian gate 212 00:11:03,600 --> 00:11:06,920 Speaker 2: to the right of the actual fence, but I didn't 213 00:11:06,920 --> 00:11:09,120 Speaker 2: see anything, and I wasn't about to take more time 214 00:11:09,160 --> 00:11:09,520 Speaker 2: to look. 215 00:11:09,640 --> 00:11:11,360 Speaker 4: So it was sort of a spur of the moment 216 00:11:11,440 --> 00:11:13,120 Speaker 4: thing when I got to the gate. 217 00:11:13,000 --> 00:11:15,280 Speaker 1: And guys, I went back the day after to try 218 00:11:15,320 --> 00:11:17,920 Speaker 1: and recreate it because I'm like, was it as athletic 219 00:11:17,960 --> 00:11:20,400 Speaker 1: as I remembered from the night before, or like, was 220 00:11:20,400 --> 00:11:22,600 Speaker 1: it that big of a deal. It took me quite 221 00:11:22,640 --> 00:11:26,839 Speaker 1: some time because I pulled the footage. Once you leapt 222 00:11:26,880 --> 00:11:28,920 Speaker 1: into the air, you had one hand on the fence. 223 00:11:29,520 --> 00:11:32,439 Speaker 1: Your foot did not touch the fence or the top. 224 00:11:32,800 --> 00:11:34,600 Speaker 1: That was the most athletic part of that is that 225 00:11:34,640 --> 00:11:37,160 Speaker 1: you went from the ground on one side over about 226 00:11:37,160 --> 00:11:40,800 Speaker 1: a seven foot fence to the other's facide and I'm like, 227 00:11:40,960 --> 00:11:42,200 Speaker 1: he never touched the fence. 228 00:11:43,880 --> 00:11:47,000 Speaker 3: You got some ops, man, Yeah, I mean. 229 00:11:47,040 --> 00:11:49,880 Speaker 2: Looking back, it is one of my more athletic things 230 00:11:49,880 --> 00:11:52,680 Speaker 2: I think I've ever done in my entire for including sports, 231 00:11:53,160 --> 00:11:55,560 Speaker 2: just because of the fact that, like I normally don't 232 00:11:55,559 --> 00:11:56,520 Speaker 2: wear boots and jeans. 233 00:11:56,520 --> 00:11:58,960 Speaker 4: I'm a very casual person when it comes to like 234 00:11:59,240 --> 00:12:02,040 Speaker 4: what I wear out. So the fact I did it. 235 00:12:01,920 --> 00:12:06,040 Speaker 2: In like a trench coat slash jacket, I think I 236 00:12:06,120 --> 00:12:08,480 Speaker 2: was wearing maybe in jeans and boots. I was like, 237 00:12:08,520 --> 00:12:12,360 Speaker 2: that just adds to adds to the complex date. 238 00:12:12,720 --> 00:12:16,640 Speaker 1: And that's so it was genuine awe and shock. And 239 00:12:16,679 --> 00:12:18,319 Speaker 1: I don't know, I don't know if you still heard 240 00:12:18,320 --> 00:12:20,120 Speaker 1: this or you were gone by the time I said it, 241 00:12:20,160 --> 00:12:22,800 Speaker 1: but you as soon as you jumped, that's when I 242 00:12:22,920 --> 00:12:25,880 Speaker 1: uttered the famous you just jumped the fucking fence. 243 00:12:27,240 --> 00:12:29,839 Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't I don't know if I heard that first. 244 00:12:30,160 --> 00:12:32,040 Speaker 1: I was a little in the zone at the time, 245 00:12:32,120 --> 00:12:34,600 Speaker 1: but okay, So here's my perspective, and then I want 246 00:12:34,600 --> 00:12:37,520 Speaker 1: to hear what happened. The reason that I didn't care 247 00:12:37,559 --> 00:12:40,040 Speaker 1: that much that he jumped the fence. When I came 248 00:12:40,080 --> 00:12:43,280 Speaker 1: to work that day, there was a there was a 249 00:12:43,320 --> 00:12:46,680 Speaker 1: car and two security guards standing outside. And not like 250 00:12:46,720 --> 00:12:49,680 Speaker 1: security security, they're just like part of whoever our hired 251 00:12:49,720 --> 00:12:51,960 Speaker 1: crew was in Portugal. We're in the Portuguese We're in 252 00:12:51,960 --> 00:12:54,960 Speaker 1: the aligarf region. We are deep into the Portuguese countryside, 253 00:12:54,960 --> 00:12:57,920 Speaker 1: in a very small town. And so you jumped the fence, 254 00:12:57,920 --> 00:12:59,960 Speaker 1: and I'm like, well, there's two security guards right there. 255 00:13:00,120 --> 00:13:02,040 Speaker 1: They'll keep an eye on him. And he just wants 256 00:13:02,040 --> 00:13:03,960 Speaker 1: to blow off some steam, not a big deal. So 257 00:13:04,040 --> 00:13:06,080 Speaker 1: I'm looking at because I'm not going over the fence. 258 00:13:06,080 --> 00:13:10,040 Speaker 1: I'm looking at how to open this automatic fence. I do, 259 00:13:10,559 --> 00:13:13,960 Speaker 1: and I walk through the fence into utter and complete darkness, 260 00:13:14,360 --> 00:13:17,240 Speaker 1: and Colton is gone. So please pick it up from 261 00:13:17,280 --> 00:13:18,760 Speaker 1: your feet land on the ground. 262 00:13:19,679 --> 00:13:21,000 Speaker 3: Where did you go? What happened? 263 00:13:21,960 --> 00:13:24,520 Speaker 4: Well, I was under the same impression as you. 264 00:13:24,720 --> 00:13:27,920 Speaker 2: I was fully expecting to land on like a crafty 265 00:13:27,960 --> 00:13:30,680 Speaker 2: table like I thought, like I thought food was going 266 00:13:30,760 --> 00:13:32,319 Speaker 2: to be flying everywhere, and I was going to land 267 00:13:32,440 --> 00:13:34,960 Speaker 2: right into a producer's lap and I got over and 268 00:13:35,000 --> 00:13:35,600 Speaker 2: I like looked around. 269 00:13:35,640 --> 00:13:37,040 Speaker 4: I was like, oh, this has to be a joke, 270 00:13:37,120 --> 00:13:38,080 Speaker 4: like nobody's here. 271 00:13:38,640 --> 00:13:42,120 Speaker 2: And it worked, and I was like, all right, well, 272 00:13:42,240 --> 00:13:44,640 Speaker 2: I'm going to just walk towards the light and like 273 00:13:45,200 --> 00:13:47,840 Speaker 2: try to get to a city in some population, because 274 00:13:47,840 --> 00:13:49,360 Speaker 2: we truly were in the middle of nowhere. 275 00:13:49,440 --> 00:13:51,599 Speaker 1: Yeah, and it's two and probably two two thirty in 276 00:13:51,600 --> 00:13:52,480 Speaker 1: the morning by this point. 277 00:13:52,880 --> 00:13:53,320 Speaker 4: Yeah, it was. 278 00:13:53,400 --> 00:13:57,000 Speaker 2: It was definitely early morning at the time, and I 279 00:13:57,040 --> 00:14:00,080 Speaker 2: just sort of headed towards the lights, and I I 280 00:14:00,080 --> 00:14:03,240 Speaker 2: didn't realize until probably halfway through that walk how far 281 00:14:03,360 --> 00:14:05,280 Speaker 2: those lights were actually away from me. 282 00:14:05,960 --> 00:14:07,320 Speaker 4: As I'm like cutting. 283 00:14:06,960 --> 00:14:11,480 Speaker 2: Through people's backyards and hearing wild animals and also like 284 00:14:11,640 --> 00:14:13,760 Speaker 2: hiding from the production vans that are like trying to 285 00:14:13,840 --> 00:14:14,240 Speaker 2: chase me. 286 00:14:14,360 --> 00:14:17,320 Speaker 4: It just it, Yeah, it became it became a chase. 287 00:14:17,400 --> 00:14:20,640 Speaker 1: Did you actually walk or did you jog or run 288 00:14:20,840 --> 00:14:23,480 Speaker 1: what like? Because I I don't know, I'm trying to 289 00:14:23,520 --> 00:14:27,120 Speaker 1: think back. It probably only took me about sixty seconds, 290 00:14:27,160 --> 00:14:30,120 Speaker 1: maybe ninety seconds tops to get through that fence to 291 00:14:30,160 --> 00:14:32,160 Speaker 1: open it up and get through with the crew, and 292 00:14:32,240 --> 00:14:33,120 Speaker 1: there was nothing. 293 00:14:33,240 --> 00:14:33,880 Speaker 3: You were gone. 294 00:14:34,240 --> 00:14:37,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I definitely ran right after my feet 295 00:14:37,160 --> 00:14:39,480 Speaker 2: hit the hit the fence after the fence jumped, but 296 00:14:40,360 --> 00:14:44,880 Speaker 2: I slowed down. I'm not an endurance acute by any myself. 297 00:14:44,920 --> 00:14:48,160 Speaker 1: I ran with you that that season, you are an 298 00:14:48,200 --> 00:14:51,600 Speaker 1: endurance athlete, please your professional So I. 299 00:14:51,560 --> 00:14:53,680 Speaker 2: Was like, I got to pace myself. These lights are 300 00:14:53,720 --> 00:14:55,920 Speaker 2: really far away. I'm going to keep heading in this direction. 301 00:14:56,200 --> 00:14:56,800 Speaker 3: But it's funny. 302 00:14:56,800 --> 00:14:58,640 Speaker 1: So I got out and it was complete darkness, and 303 00:14:58,720 --> 00:15:02,200 Speaker 1: what I thought there was a dog barking down the 304 00:15:02,200 --> 00:15:04,600 Speaker 1: street to the right, and I thought, okay, he just 305 00:15:04,640 --> 00:15:06,720 Speaker 1: went by someone's yard and there's a dog barking. I'm 306 00:15:06,720 --> 00:15:09,600 Speaker 1: gonna walk down there. So I kind of start walking 307 00:15:09,680 --> 00:15:12,160 Speaker 1: and jogging down this street to chase you down, and 308 00:15:12,200 --> 00:15:14,240 Speaker 1: I realize it's a dead end and you must have 309 00:15:14,240 --> 00:15:17,000 Speaker 1: gone the other direction. So now I've wasted even more time. 310 00:15:18,440 --> 00:15:19,160 Speaker 1: You were just gone. 311 00:15:19,920 --> 00:15:21,680 Speaker 2: Well you want to know, I think, because you know 312 00:15:21,720 --> 00:15:23,400 Speaker 2: how like when things like that happen, you sort of 313 00:15:23,400 --> 00:15:24,760 Speaker 2: block out and you're like, I don't know if I'm 314 00:15:24,800 --> 00:15:25,760 Speaker 2: remembering this point right. 315 00:15:25,800 --> 00:15:27,360 Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm pretty sure that's their direction. 316 00:15:27,440 --> 00:15:29,520 Speaker 2: I started in where I ran to and I was like, oh, 317 00:15:29,560 --> 00:15:31,360 Speaker 2: this is and I have to run the other way 318 00:15:31,520 --> 00:15:33,520 Speaker 2: back in front of the fence that I just jumped, 319 00:15:33,520 --> 00:15:35,520 Speaker 2: so I have to make up time. I'm pretty sure 320 00:15:35,520 --> 00:15:37,040 Speaker 2: that's what happened, because I do know I went in 321 00:15:37,040 --> 00:15:37,880 Speaker 2: two different directions. 322 00:15:37,880 --> 00:15:39,600 Speaker 1: That one that makes sense, by the way, that was 323 00:15:39,680 --> 00:15:41,840 Speaker 1: that was like a leam Neeson move then, because you 324 00:15:41,960 --> 00:15:45,000 Speaker 1: caused that dog to bark and then ran the other direction. 325 00:15:45,800 --> 00:15:47,800 Speaker 4: You guys went that way as I'm going this way. 326 00:15:47,880 --> 00:15:49,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, you threw me off without even knowing it. That 327 00:15:49,920 --> 00:15:50,640 Speaker 3: well done. 328 00:15:51,320 --> 00:15:54,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, well it was not intentional by any means, but 329 00:15:54,400 --> 00:15:54,880 Speaker 2: it works. 330 00:15:55,320 --> 00:15:57,360 Speaker 3: So I start, you know it, ron it. 331 00:15:57,440 --> 00:16:01,000 Speaker 1: Oh gosh, twenty minutes go by and we can't find 332 00:16:01,000 --> 00:16:04,280 Speaker 1: Colton and we're legitimately all now spreading out like okay, 333 00:16:04,360 --> 00:16:06,080 Speaker 1: let's not worry about the show. Although they kept a 334 00:16:06,120 --> 00:16:10,120 Speaker 1: camera on me, and I start calling people in LA 335 00:16:10,240 --> 00:16:11,520 Speaker 1: and it's in the you know, the middle of the night, 336 00:16:11,560 --> 00:16:13,960 Speaker 1: and I'm like, hey, uh, this is a weird one. 337 00:16:14,000 --> 00:16:17,560 Speaker 1: But we've lost the Bachelor, like I lost a human 338 00:16:17,600 --> 00:16:19,760 Speaker 1: being in the Portuguese countryside. 339 00:16:20,160 --> 00:16:22,280 Speaker 3: So where did you go and what were you doing 340 00:16:22,440 --> 00:16:23,080 Speaker 3: during all this? 341 00:16:24,840 --> 00:16:27,400 Speaker 2: I mean I was doing everything I could just not 342 00:16:27,480 --> 00:16:28,520 Speaker 2: to be found at the time. 343 00:16:28,600 --> 00:16:29,400 Speaker 4: I just like you know. 344 00:16:29,960 --> 00:16:32,119 Speaker 2: I think I said this in some of like the interviews, 345 00:16:32,200 --> 00:16:34,800 Speaker 2: is you don't get you don't get much time to 346 00:16:34,880 --> 00:16:38,400 Speaker 2: like process or be by yourself at all, and sometimes 347 00:16:38,400 --> 00:16:41,680 Speaker 2: like that you know that's what you need. So I 348 00:16:41,680 --> 00:16:43,400 Speaker 2: think I was just trying to be alone. I was 349 00:16:43,440 --> 00:16:46,120 Speaker 2: in ditches, I was in people's backyards. I was next 350 00:16:46,120 --> 00:16:49,320 Speaker 2: to a dog at one point, Like it was, it 351 00:16:49,440 --> 00:16:52,640 Speaker 2: was truly wild. Like looking back, I probably would not 352 00:16:52,960 --> 00:16:55,240 Speaker 2: have stayed out there as long as I did, knowing 353 00:16:55,440 --> 00:16:57,840 Speaker 2: what wild animals exist in the nature. 354 00:16:58,440 --> 00:17:00,080 Speaker 4: But I just needed alone. 355 00:16:59,840 --> 00:17:13,760 Speaker 1: Time knowing you as well as I do now and 356 00:17:14,400 --> 00:17:17,880 Speaker 1: knowing where your life is. Now do you look back, 357 00:17:17,920 --> 00:17:20,399 Speaker 1: You're like, how is that my life? At any point? 358 00:17:20,840 --> 00:17:23,600 Speaker 1: How is how was I running through the Portuguese country 359 00:17:23,600 --> 00:17:27,600 Speaker 1: side trying to, you know, evade producers. 360 00:17:28,480 --> 00:17:31,040 Speaker 4: I mean, honestly, it just makes more sense to me now. 361 00:17:31,080 --> 00:17:34,399 Speaker 2: It's like only like only a gay man can be 362 00:17:34,440 --> 00:17:38,080 Speaker 2: that dramatic on a show. So I mean, to be 363 00:17:38,119 --> 00:17:39,960 Speaker 2: honest with you, I mean I had a lot of 364 00:17:40,600 --> 00:17:41,800 Speaker 2: obvious a lot. 365 00:17:41,680 --> 00:17:44,000 Speaker 4: Of stuff that I was processing internally as. 366 00:17:43,920 --> 00:17:45,720 Speaker 3: The show was going on, clearly. 367 00:17:45,440 --> 00:17:48,639 Speaker 2: But yet like in the micro moments of like okay, 368 00:17:48,680 --> 00:17:50,840 Speaker 2: now this is the only one that I sort of 369 00:17:50,840 --> 00:17:53,320 Speaker 2: wanted while I was trying to like figure out my 370 00:17:53,400 --> 00:17:56,960 Speaker 2: sexuality and it's not happening, and then this is all 371 00:17:57,040 --> 00:17:59,080 Speaker 2: like on top of it, these people don't understand what 372 00:17:59,160 --> 00:17:59,840 Speaker 2: I'm going through. 373 00:18:00,000 --> 00:18:00,960 Speaker 4: I didn't want to let them in. 374 00:18:01,560 --> 00:18:04,560 Speaker 2: So it was it was a tough you know, it 375 00:18:04,600 --> 00:18:07,159 Speaker 2: was tough, and like even I don't know if you 376 00:18:07,160 --> 00:18:10,200 Speaker 2: remember this, but like I think I was. I was 377 00:18:10,240 --> 00:18:13,560 Speaker 2: one of maybe the only contestants that read my agreement 378 00:18:13,680 --> 00:18:16,960 Speaker 2: from like front to back, probably so I knew. I 379 00:18:16,960 --> 00:18:19,760 Speaker 2: think I like knew or remembered reading in there as 380 00:18:19,800 --> 00:18:22,320 Speaker 2: like when you ask for the therapist, the cameras have 381 00:18:22,440 --> 00:18:25,800 Speaker 2: to like legally be like taken down, like they have 382 00:18:25,880 --> 00:18:28,520 Speaker 2: to stop recording. So I remember, like you were like 383 00:18:28,560 --> 00:18:31,359 Speaker 2: calling at me, and I would like I think I 384 00:18:31,440 --> 00:18:33,400 Speaker 2: we went back and forth with like two or three lines, 385 00:18:33,400 --> 00:18:35,119 Speaker 2: and then like my third line was just like I 386 00:18:35,160 --> 00:18:37,800 Speaker 2: need to talk to doctor who a therapist was at 387 00:18:37,840 --> 00:18:40,120 Speaker 2: the time, And I said, the next person I talked 388 00:18:40,160 --> 00:18:42,320 Speaker 2: to needs to be a therapist, and like that's when 389 00:18:42,440 --> 00:18:43,040 Speaker 2: like I remember the. 390 00:18:43,080 --> 00:18:46,639 Speaker 1: Cameras because so but I want to back up about 391 00:18:46,680 --> 00:18:49,600 Speaker 1: five minutes before I we found you, you were in 392 00:18:49,640 --> 00:18:50,119 Speaker 1: a ditch. 393 00:18:50,240 --> 00:18:50,640 Speaker 3: Correct. 394 00:18:50,960 --> 00:18:52,280 Speaker 1: Is this true that you were in a ditch and 395 00:18:52,359 --> 00:18:54,360 Speaker 1: you kind of got scared out of that ditch by 396 00:18:54,680 --> 00:18:55,320 Speaker 1: an animal. 397 00:18:56,400 --> 00:18:56,640 Speaker 4: Yeah. 398 00:18:56,680 --> 00:18:58,720 Speaker 2: I mean at that point I just was like, okay, 399 00:18:59,119 --> 00:19:02,600 Speaker 2: like this needs to end, because something's going to pop 400 00:19:02,640 --> 00:19:04,560 Speaker 2: out or bite me or do something to me that 401 00:19:04,600 --> 00:19:05,200 Speaker 2: I'm going. 402 00:19:05,200 --> 00:19:05,840 Speaker 4: To need help with. 403 00:19:06,080 --> 00:19:07,920 Speaker 1: And just so we can kind of explain to people. 404 00:19:07,960 --> 00:19:11,080 Speaker 1: So we're in the Portuguese countryside and they don't have 405 00:19:11,240 --> 00:19:15,639 Speaker 1: underwater sewers and where rain runs and all that. On 406 00:19:15,720 --> 00:19:18,640 Speaker 1: each side of the road, there was essentially these drainage 407 00:19:18,640 --> 00:19:21,600 Speaker 1: ditches that were kind of bricked in and they were 408 00:19:21,600 --> 00:19:23,879 Speaker 1: probably like four feet deep, so you could, I mean, 409 00:19:23,880 --> 00:19:25,760 Speaker 1: you could scoot down and want to never be seen. 410 00:19:26,240 --> 00:19:28,320 Speaker 1: And that's where you were when we were driving down 411 00:19:28,320 --> 00:19:31,040 Speaker 1: the road. But you shot out of it, like you know, 412 00:19:31,160 --> 00:19:31,879 Speaker 1: out of a cannon. 413 00:19:32,240 --> 00:19:34,879 Speaker 4: Yeah. I mean, I don't know what exactly it was 414 00:19:34,920 --> 00:19:35,840 Speaker 4: that scared me out of there. 415 00:19:35,840 --> 00:19:38,439 Speaker 2: I think it was just a culmination of the entire 416 00:19:38,520 --> 00:19:41,520 Speaker 2: evening because it went on for a while. I don't 417 00:19:41,600 --> 00:19:43,520 Speaker 2: once again you sort of black out them. 418 00:19:43,520 --> 00:19:45,200 Speaker 1: I would say it was a good forty five to 419 00:19:45,200 --> 00:19:47,000 Speaker 1: fifty minutes that all this took place. 420 00:19:47,720 --> 00:19:49,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, so you don't have like an exact time, Like 421 00:19:49,920 --> 00:19:51,320 Speaker 2: I was like, I don't know how long I've been 422 00:19:51,400 --> 00:19:51,880 Speaker 2: running here. 423 00:19:52,040 --> 00:19:53,879 Speaker 4: All I know is like, it's early in the morning. 424 00:19:53,960 --> 00:19:57,679 Speaker 4: I'm tired. This is useless at this point because this 425 00:19:57,920 --> 00:20:02,359 Speaker 4: city's hours away. Yeah. So yeah, I popped out and 426 00:20:02,359 --> 00:20:04,480 Speaker 4: I was like, I'm I need help. I got to 427 00:20:04,480 --> 00:20:04,960 Speaker 4: get out of here. 428 00:20:04,960 --> 00:20:07,840 Speaker 1: You know, when I found you, obviously, as we laugh, now, 429 00:20:08,119 --> 00:20:10,000 Speaker 1: you were not happy. I was not happy. 430 00:20:10,000 --> 00:20:10,400 Speaker 3: By the way. 431 00:20:10,440 --> 00:20:12,560 Speaker 1: It was cold, I'm running around in my dress shoes, 432 00:20:12,920 --> 00:20:15,760 Speaker 1: and I think I said something to the effect of, like, where. 433 00:20:15,520 --> 00:20:17,320 Speaker 3: The hell are you going. You don't have a wallet, 434 00:20:17,400 --> 00:20:18,000 Speaker 3: you don't. 435 00:20:17,760 --> 00:20:19,600 Speaker 1: Have a passport, Just get in the car. 436 00:20:19,640 --> 00:20:19,880 Speaker 3: Man. 437 00:20:20,720 --> 00:20:23,199 Speaker 4: Yeah, well, here's my question. I've never asked you this. 438 00:20:23,359 --> 00:20:25,800 Speaker 2: Why were you on that day because normally you don't 439 00:20:25,840 --> 00:20:27,720 Speaker 2: go to every single one on one. 440 00:20:27,960 --> 00:20:31,359 Speaker 1: Because I had I had heard the same thing that 441 00:20:31,520 --> 00:20:34,080 Speaker 1: it may be an explosive date because I didn't go 442 00:20:34,080 --> 00:20:36,520 Speaker 1: on every day, right yeah, yeah, And they said, look, 443 00:20:36,560 --> 00:20:39,639 Speaker 1: you probably want to show up tonight just in case. 444 00:20:39,760 --> 00:20:42,440 Speaker 1: Like and by the way, it's not that I wouldn't 445 00:20:42,480 --> 00:20:44,240 Speaker 1: ever do that. I did that quite a bit, but 446 00:20:44,359 --> 00:20:48,359 Speaker 1: probably forty percent of the time and ninety nine percent 447 00:20:48,400 --> 00:20:50,560 Speaker 1: of the time nothing would ever come of it, and 448 00:20:50,600 --> 00:20:52,320 Speaker 1: I would just sit in a hotel room or sit 449 00:20:52,320 --> 00:20:54,600 Speaker 1: in the control room till five in the morning and 450 00:20:54,720 --> 00:20:57,320 Speaker 1: be dressed and ready to go and absolutely do nothing. 451 00:20:57,640 --> 00:20:59,399 Speaker 1: And I thought that's what was going to happen that night. 452 00:20:59,480 --> 00:21:01,280 Speaker 1: I was in there and I was honestly eating peanut 453 00:21:01,320 --> 00:21:04,159 Speaker 1: butter and jelly sandwiches with the producers, and I just 454 00:21:04,160 --> 00:21:06,000 Speaker 1: figured it was going to be a wasted night and 455 00:21:06,440 --> 00:21:09,440 Speaker 1: I would go back home, and that's when everything happened, 456 00:21:09,520 --> 00:21:11,000 Speaker 1: and I'm like, well, let me go talk to them. 457 00:21:11,160 --> 00:21:12,959 Speaker 2: You would have been better off stretching and putting some 458 00:21:13,000 --> 00:21:14,280 Speaker 2: athletic shoes on my friend. 459 00:21:14,440 --> 00:21:17,240 Speaker 1: I know, dude, I ran next to you. It wouldn't 460 00:21:17,240 --> 00:21:19,119 Speaker 1: have helped. It didn't matter. I could have been in 461 00:21:19,160 --> 00:21:21,760 Speaker 1: my PA Flyers, my air Jordan, So I was not 462 00:21:21,840 --> 00:21:22,680 Speaker 1: catching you that night. 463 00:21:22,760 --> 00:21:23,400 Speaker 3: It didn't matter. 464 00:21:23,680 --> 00:21:27,080 Speaker 1: It would have been more embarrassing if we had been trying, 465 00:21:27,119 --> 00:21:29,880 Speaker 1: if I had really been trying to chase you on camera, 466 00:21:30,640 --> 00:21:34,960 Speaker 1: and that would have been how embarrassingly quick you would 467 00:21:34,960 --> 00:21:35,919 Speaker 1: have gotten away from me. 468 00:21:36,880 --> 00:21:38,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I wish, I wish I would have 469 00:21:38,960 --> 00:21:41,119 Speaker 2: been in a different mindset because I could have had 470 00:21:41,119 --> 00:21:42,960 Speaker 2: a little bit more fun with that, Like that week, 471 00:21:43,000 --> 00:21:45,520 Speaker 2: I just remember sort of those feelings lingered or I 472 00:21:45,520 --> 00:21:47,919 Speaker 2: wish we would have been able to, like, you know, 473 00:21:48,200 --> 00:21:50,320 Speaker 2: ride away, gone back and poke fun at it, but 474 00:21:50,359 --> 00:21:53,720 Speaker 2: it was it wasn't intense. 475 00:21:53,280 --> 00:21:56,200 Speaker 1: Charged as much as we laugh about it now, You're right, 476 00:21:56,240 --> 00:21:57,840 Speaker 1: it was a very intense moment. 477 00:21:58,400 --> 00:21:59,000 Speaker 3: But it's funny. 478 00:21:59,000 --> 00:22:01,359 Speaker 1: I look back, and you never know what's going to 479 00:22:01,440 --> 00:22:03,960 Speaker 1: be the thing when you're shooting a show or a 480 00:22:03,960 --> 00:22:07,200 Speaker 1: season of The Bachelor Bacherette. Even when that happened, I 481 00:22:07,920 --> 00:22:10,040 Speaker 1: don't know. I guess I was naive. I didn't think 482 00:22:10,359 --> 00:22:12,520 Speaker 1: this will be the season known as the fence Jump, 483 00:22:12,600 --> 00:22:14,680 Speaker 1: and this will go down in Bachelor history as one 484 00:22:14,680 --> 00:22:18,000 Speaker 1: of the most iconic moments in television, you know, reality 485 00:22:18,000 --> 00:22:18,959 Speaker 1: television history. 486 00:22:19,560 --> 00:22:22,080 Speaker 3: Did you can you believe that? 487 00:22:22,119 --> 00:22:23,840 Speaker 1: When did you kind of start feeling that? 488 00:22:25,119 --> 00:22:27,920 Speaker 4: Oh? During like press and promo, I same thing. 489 00:22:27,960 --> 00:22:30,280 Speaker 2: Even when we wrapped the season, I was just like, okay, 490 00:22:30,440 --> 00:22:32,080 Speaker 2: I mean I just did things differently and. 491 00:22:32,119 --> 00:22:32,920 Speaker 4: Went about it different. 492 00:22:32,960 --> 00:22:34,639 Speaker 2: I didn't think that moment was going to be like 493 00:22:35,280 --> 00:22:37,160 Speaker 2: I mean, looking back, it was sort of the pivotal 494 00:22:37,160 --> 00:22:41,159 Speaker 2: moment where everything changed. But at the same time. I 495 00:22:41,160 --> 00:22:44,000 Speaker 2: didn't think that was going to be in every single trailer, 496 00:22:44,080 --> 00:22:47,600 Speaker 2: in every single tease, but it wasn't. 497 00:22:47,800 --> 00:22:49,960 Speaker 4: I think it was successful for the promotion of the 498 00:22:49,960 --> 00:22:50,480 Speaker 4: show too. 499 00:22:50,720 --> 00:22:53,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, I appreciate it. You put my kids through college. 500 00:22:54,640 --> 00:22:58,080 Speaker 4: There you go. I'm glad somebody got got compensated. 501 00:22:57,520 --> 00:22:59,200 Speaker 3: For it before I let you go. 502 00:22:59,600 --> 00:23:01,880 Speaker 1: First of all, I appreciate you, you know, diving back 503 00:23:01,880 --> 00:23:05,679 Speaker 1: into Amni Julane with me and going over this fence shop. 504 00:23:06,000 --> 00:23:08,200 Speaker 3: How's life for you? You good? Everybody happy? 505 00:23:08,960 --> 00:23:09,520 Speaker 4: Really good? 506 00:23:09,840 --> 00:23:13,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, married life is great. I'm just in like a 507 00:23:13,400 --> 00:23:17,119 Speaker 2: much different place in life. My relationship dynamic is different 508 00:23:17,320 --> 00:23:19,520 Speaker 2: and way healthier than I ever thought it was going 509 00:23:19,600 --> 00:23:22,320 Speaker 2: to be. I'm just sort of at peace, have a 510 00:23:22,320 --> 00:23:25,080 Speaker 2: good support system out here in LA and life is 511 00:23:25,600 --> 00:23:27,480 Speaker 2: peaceful and really good right now. 512 00:23:27,520 --> 00:23:30,240 Speaker 1: Well, we raved about your wedding on our podcast. We 513 00:23:30,359 --> 00:23:33,359 Speaker 1: raved about your husband, who I don't know how you 514 00:23:33,440 --> 00:23:34,600 Speaker 1: ended up with such a great guy. 515 00:23:34,880 --> 00:23:36,359 Speaker 3: He is unbelievable. 516 00:23:36,680 --> 00:23:38,280 Speaker 4: He's the best. He's the best. 517 00:23:38,280 --> 00:23:41,240 Speaker 2: And yeah, we we listened to that podcast and we 518 00:23:41,320 --> 00:23:44,040 Speaker 2: both he doesn't do any media stuff with me, but 519 00:23:44,280 --> 00:23:46,800 Speaker 2: we both want to say thank you. But because you 520 00:23:46,880 --> 00:23:49,440 Speaker 2: sort of gave us like the perfect recap that now 521 00:23:49,440 --> 00:23:52,320 Speaker 2: we can go back and hit play. You and Lauren 522 00:23:52,359 --> 00:23:54,080 Speaker 2: started to give us the play by play and like 523 00:23:54,119 --> 00:23:56,480 Speaker 2: the behind the scenes look that we because when you're 524 00:23:56,560 --> 00:23:58,119 Speaker 2: in it just really focused. 525 00:23:57,760 --> 00:24:00,760 Speaker 4: On what you got to do. But it was really 526 00:24:00,760 --> 00:24:02,600 Speaker 4: beautiful and it was really cool for you guys to 527 00:24:02,600 --> 00:24:02,800 Speaker 4: do that. 528 00:24:02,880 --> 00:24:05,240 Speaker 2: So thank you a mental lot and we were sort 529 00:24:05,280 --> 00:24:07,480 Speaker 2: of smiling you to hear as we listened back on 530 00:24:07,520 --> 00:24:08,000 Speaker 2: the weekend. 531 00:24:08,160 --> 00:24:10,840 Speaker 1: Well, it was all out of love and Lauren and I, 532 00:24:10,880 --> 00:24:13,359 Speaker 1: as our wedding approaches, we are definitely reaching out to 533 00:24:13,440 --> 00:24:15,400 Speaker 1: your coach because he was the hit of the wedding. 534 00:24:15,440 --> 00:24:18,600 Speaker 1: I'm telling you this guy. Hire him for every wedding 535 00:24:19,200 --> 00:24:19,720 Speaker 1: in the world. 536 00:24:19,880 --> 00:24:21,280 Speaker 4: He is I was going to ask for your better 537 00:24:21,280 --> 00:24:23,399 Speaker 4: hohold was is she there celebrating somewhere with you? 538 00:24:23,760 --> 00:24:26,560 Speaker 1: She actually is here. She's here, and she told me 539 00:24:26,600 --> 00:24:28,560 Speaker 1: to send her love and say. 540 00:24:28,359 --> 00:24:28,919 Speaker 3: Hello to you. 541 00:24:29,680 --> 00:24:30,840 Speaker 4: Well send mine back to her. 542 00:24:31,000 --> 00:24:35,280 Speaker 1: Hey, Colton Underwood, I appreciate it, my friend and spending 543 00:24:35,280 --> 00:24:37,440 Speaker 1: a little time opening up the playbook with us this week. 544 00:24:38,280 --> 00:24:40,240 Speaker 3: Thank you, Thank you, thanks for listening. 545 00:24:40,440 --> 00:24:43,040 Speaker 1: Follow us on Instagram at the most dramatic pod ever, 546 00:24:43,440 --> 00:24:45,240 Speaker 1: and make sure to write US a review and leave 547 00:24:45,280 --> 00:24:47,680 Speaker 1: US five stars. I'll talk to you next time.