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Speaker 4: flow and those who are watching this is my new
Speaker 4: Serbia mug.
Speaker 5: You got a Serbia mug?
Speaker 6: Did you get at the airport or did you get
Speaker 6: it somewhere like in your travels?
Speaker 4: I got no, I got it at the airport.
Speaker 5: You know, okay? All right?
Speaker 4: I mean you know I don't have any great travel stories.
Speaker 4: We ate at one outstanding restaurant and the fans were outstanding.
Speaker 4: Got a little photo shoot in the restaurant in Yeah,
Speaker 4: after we ate, but uh yeah, it was a great trip,
Speaker 4: a great crowd. We will get into the entire fight
Speaker 4: card and all of that. I sort of feel like
Speaker 4: the Boston Red Sox should be the lead story today though,
Speaker 4: if I'm being honest, I mean, are you paying attention
Speaker 4: to what this team is doing?
Speaker 5: They're crushing it right.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, as as radios go off all around
Speaker 4: the mixed martial arts community, I'm gonna put my Red
Speaker 4: Sox hat on for us. Let's go.
Speaker 5: Blacked out, black doub.
Speaker 4: I wait to talk about the Serbian fans and Udo
Speaker 4: Schmititch and the record setting night. But the Red Sox
Speaker 4: have won twenty eight of thirty three. It's the best
Speaker 4: thirty three grame stretch in UFC history, UFC history in
Speaker 4: Red Sox fourteen of sixteen going into the All Star Break,
Speaker 4: including their last nine out of the break, tacked on
Speaker 4: six more in a row to tie the franchise record
Speaker 4: fifteen straight wins. Now they've ripped off five straight after
Speaker 4: sweeping the Dodgers fourteen and three. Since the All Star Break,
Speaker 4: twenty eight and five span in their last thirty three,
Speaker 4: So we're gonna wear the red Sox hat today anyway,
Speaker 4: that is not in my wheel house, like mixed martial
Speaker 4: arts is. But before we get into the fight, Car Kenny,
Speaker 4: So I flew Air Serbia so as to fly direct
Speaker 4: from to Belgrade, and it was a little bit of
Speaker 4: a time war, right, And I hope this doesn't you
Speaker 4: smoke on the plane, so you can smoke in restaurants.
Speaker 4: You could definitely smoke in restaurant. I actually have a
Speaker 4: photo that show the audience. But yeah, you could smoke
Speaker 4: in restaurants. This was a beautiful woman smoking a cigarette
Speaker 4: in a restaurant.
Speaker 7: Amazing.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, I will say though, I was more you know,
Speaker 4: I was more cigarette emoji than trash can emoji when
Speaker 4: she was smoking the cigarette. I was sort of wanting
Speaker 4: to bum one and smoke one so as to offend
Speaker 4: the people at my table. They also don't smell as strong.
Speaker 4: They're thinner. I didn't really smell it. I did get
Speaker 4: a bloody nose later, but I don't think it was because.
Speaker 6: But what were like, what did this plane look like?
Speaker 6: Was it from the fifties sixties.
Speaker 4: To talk about here, I don't know what decade this
Speaker 4: Air Serbia plane was from but I asked for a
Speaker 4: coke zero, and not only did it come without ice,
Speaker 4: but it was warm as coffee. And so yeah, when
Speaker 4: you ask for ice, they give you like a cube.
Speaker 4: So that's sort of an interesting Serbian tradition. And then
Speaker 4: there was no ice at the arena, which is fine,
Speaker 4: you know, but I have certain lubrication methods for my
Speaker 4: vocals on fight night, right tea coffee and ideally coke
Speaker 4: on the rocks is a nice little mix in, you know,
Speaker 4: if you need a little fucking pick me up. You know,
Speaker 4: we were going coke out of the cam, which doesn't
Speaker 4: necessarily work.
Speaker 5: Warm soda might might be the cure for that, who
Speaker 5: knows so.
Speaker 4: And then like the salt and pepper, like ceramic salt
Speaker 4: and pepper, it just sort of like feels like there
Speaker 4: could be a more efficient way, and doing that it
Speaker 4: was wild, but that's great. Oh so much love for
Speaker 4: mixed martial arts in this country. And Alexander Rockets spent
Speaker 4: a lot of time with the Serbian Federation of Mixed
Speaker 4: Martial Arts, and you see some of the developing talent
Speaker 4: and we're going to get into all of that, but
Speaker 4: clearly this is initiative and all of these places. You know,
Speaker 4: if you read between the lines, you can understand what
Speaker 4: an appetite there is for these UFC live events. Every
Speaker 4: time the UFC, I'm not gonna say we every time
Speaker 4: the UFC goes somewhere, they set a gate record, whether
Speaker 4: it's in the United States or outside of these countries. Right,
Speaker 4: So the appetite for this stuff is such that, you know,
Speaker 4: these countries invest and pay and try to get it there,
Speaker 4: and then there's an economic boom for them when the
Speaker 4: UFC comes there. Tremendous experience all around, certainly one of
Speaker 4: the best live crowds I've experienced in terms of just
Speaker 4: straight volume. When I took off the cans, it was
Speaker 4: absolutely absurd. So, uh, let us dive into all of that.
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Speaker 4: what'd you make of the fight card?
Speaker 5: Dude?
Speaker 6: A lot of great finishes, definitely guys going forward. The
Speaker 6: crowd seemed to be very hyped up, And yeah, I
Speaker 6: enjoyed it.
Speaker 5: I mean, I love these. You know, I had to
Speaker 5: catch up.
Speaker 6: I didn't watch it live, so I had to go
Speaker 6: and catch up, and it was easy to do it.
Speaker 5: Because of all these great finishes.
Speaker 7: Man. Yeah.
Speaker 4: Yeah. It was early on in the daytime, obviously in
Speaker 4: the United States of America, and I don't get to
Speaker 4: do a lot of these European shows. I've done shows
Speaker 4: certainly across England, but never in Liverpool, never in Paris, France.
Speaker 4: And I did do an Instagram live and I don't
Speaker 4: know sometimes if I'm repeating myself to certain segments of
Speaker 4: our audience, but Paris, France is ubiquitously regarded by our
Speaker 4: staff as the loudest, sort of most festive UFC crowd
Speaker 4: that they have experienced. I have not experienced that. This
Speaker 4: was certainly top five for me. Kenny, you and I
Speaker 4: experienced some crazy Brazilian crowds and those were the days
Speaker 4: and we didn't even know it, right, Like, those were
Speaker 4: the fucking days and we didn't even know it. But
Speaker 4: I'm so grateful to have had this experience in Serbia.
Speaker 4: And you know, the flares coming out. I'm always rooting
Speaker 4: for chaos, so I had wished the flares had come
Speaker 4: out earlier, I guess in the night. But it was
Speaker 4: a scene. It was an experience only elevated by the
Speaker 4: athletes and the fighters as usual. And yeah, first round
Speaker 4: finishes and twelve finishes overall, including Udo Schmitits thirty seconds
Speaker 4: into round one against Daniel Rodriguez, and I guess we
Speaker 4: will start there. Man. You know, this kid left Serbia
Speaker 4: ten years ago, didn't go back a singular time because
Speaker 4: he's been invested in this mixed martial arts career. And
Speaker 4: he goes back there, his faces on all the buildings
Speaker 4: and billboards, and he wins the main event in thirty seconds.
Speaker 6: I watched your Instagram live and it was phenomenal. Oh
Speaker 6: did you hear me talk about my favorite fighter of
Speaker 6: all time?
Speaker 5: I did? I did.
Speaker 4: I'll stop comparing you to who's some are polars. That
Speaker 4: would be the last time.
Speaker 5: That'd be the last time you're the man.
Speaker 6: No, it was great, and you know, to put it
Speaker 6: into that context, you know that's that is a special thing.
Speaker 6: And you could just see how much it meant to
Speaker 6: him as he took it in at the top of
Speaker 6: that cage, after that absolutely scintillating knockout that he had
Speaker 6: over Daniel Rodriguez. And you know, those are the kind
Speaker 6: of moments that you will remember forever, no matter what
Speaker 6: happens to Metich moving forward. That is a memory that
Speaker 6: will stay forever and for his family as well.
Speaker 5: And what a win.
Speaker 2: Dude.
Speaker 6: This guy is so damn explosive and he has a
Speaker 6: natural intuition of a true killer inside the cage.
Speaker 4: So I did a seven minute segment or so on
Speaker 4: the pre show. We were an analyst short because of
Speaker 4: Anthony Smith, whom we will get to time permitting. I
Speaker 4: really have so much love for him as a as
Speaker 4: a human being. But you know, they asked me sort
Speaker 4: of my keys to victory for Udosh Meititch and Daniel Rodriguez.
Speaker 4: Now I am not an analyst, right, but I thought
Speaker 4: for Udo Schmititic, he had to be able to turn
Speaker 4: his words into action in terms of having tunnel vision, right,
Speaker 4: Imagine how overwhelming it must have been to go back
Speaker 4: to your home nation for the first time in ten
Speaker 4: years and you are headlining the UFC fight night. He
Speaker 4: didn't even know if mixed martial arts was going to
Speaker 4: be the combat sports path he took when he moved
Speaker 4: to the US to Alaska ten years ago. So to
Speaker 4: go back, I would imagine a lot of athletes might
Speaker 4: have succumbed to that moment, even five percent. And so
Speaker 4: after the fight with Michael Bisping, all he wanted to
Speaker 4: do was cry, and that would have been appropriate because
Speaker 4: he bottled up all that emotion and it didn't even
Speaker 4: necessarily use it as fuel. Right. He's just that good
Speaker 4: and that prepared as an MMA athlete in twenty twenty six.
Speaker 4: But I just wondered for him when I was asked
Speaker 4: for a key to victory? Can he not get overwhelmed
Speaker 4: by this walk in this moment? Right? And he did
Speaker 4: not at all. He's got ice water in his veins,
Speaker 4: and I'm curious to see how far he can take it.
Speaker 6: He looked ultra focused when he walked into that cage.
Speaker 6: He looked intense, and it's very easy to mismanage those
Speaker 6: emotions when you're in that kind of environment, right, And
Speaker 6: you know, I think that bringing that intensity without dialing
Speaker 6: it up too much, you know, staying focused, not worrying
Speaker 6: about what the fans are doing, you know, like all
Speaker 6: those things are very difficult for professional athletes to deal with,
Speaker 6: especially when it's just you out there, you're not hiding
Speaker 6: amongst the team.
Speaker 5: And boy did he deliver.
Speaker 6: And you know, we know how dangerous d Rod is
Speaker 6: and the fact that he's able to execute in that
Speaker 6: manner with a classic euros Minich early finish, that's pretty impressive.
Speaker 4: Man, this is really someone around whom you can build
Speaker 4: I think Kenny, I don't know what his following is
Speaker 4: and what the internal numbers in the USC say about
Speaker 4: his following, but man, he maximizes the mic time too, right.
Speaker 4: I mean I could harken back to quotes right as
Speaker 4: I did on the broadcast. Who's saying, you know, division's
Speaker 4: got a problem or we got a problem, folks? It's me,
Speaker 4: you know, and increasingly he's a real problem. I don't
Speaker 4: know how he compares to say Carlos protests in terms
Speaker 4: of straight power and the ability to sort of know
Speaker 4: what your best weapons are and put them to good
Speaker 4: use in the octagon. But hey, Udos the doctor, medic
Speaker 4: sure as fuck wants to find out because that's the
Speaker 4: guy he calls out right, what else can you say?
Speaker 4: Nobody's calling Carlos protests out No, and it's it's time. Now,
Speaker 4: it's time for medics to go out and start going
Speaker 4: against the elite guys because he clearly has a certain something.
Speaker 4: Uh definitely has a knack for finishing it, has a
Speaker 4: knack for finding your chin and then repeatedly hitting it.
Speaker 5: After you're hurt.
Speaker 6: Like that sequence of moves of techniques that he was
Speaker 6: striking d Rod with was just amazing.
Speaker 5: I mean, the accuracy was awesome.
Speaker 6: You could see how intuitive it is for him to
Speaker 6: throw not just one or two, but like three, four, five,
Speaker 6: and as de Rod is falling to the ground like
Speaker 6: he's kicking him like a soccer ball like it was.
Speaker 5: It was. It was really impressive.
Speaker 4: Yeah, joking during the week, Meticch hadn't been back here
Speaker 4: in ten years. I'm like, this dude's American. I mean,
Speaker 4: let's be honest right now, it is America. No, but
Speaker 4: he really it's fascinating to sort of see every fighter's story.
Speaker 4: But good for Udo Schmititch, and I don't know what
Speaker 4: they're gonna do with this welterweight division. You know, the
Speaker 4: timing is really great for him. You have Islami Kashev
Speaker 4: defending the title against Ian Maschado Gary in twelve days.
Speaker 4: Michael Morales reportedly the backup. I haven't seen the corner sheet,
Speaker 4: but I'd imagine that is accurate. So you know, I
Speaker 4: don't know, man, excuse me. Cody's telling me Carlos protests.
Speaker 4: He had two million followers on just ig for protests,
Speaker 4: one hundred and eleven thousand for Udo Schmititch. That's, you know,
Speaker 4: one metric. I think this is going to really propel
Speaker 4: meticch and Carlos protest is the the fight taking type,
Speaker 4: so maybe there's something there. You've got Joaquin Buckley and
Speaker 4: Mike Malotte as a main event. Come out up, Kenny,
Speaker 4: oh Yar Slavamasov at number fifteen in the world. I mean,
Speaker 4: I get intimidated just watching that guy eat. I believe
Speaker 4: he was there and he was breaking bread, and I
Speaker 4: certainly was not gonna interrupt him. Kenny, what's your appetite
Speaker 4: for metics versus protests and not necessarily asking for a lean.
Speaker 4: But how how competitive is Medics in that fight because
Speaker 4: he would be the underdone.
Speaker 6: Yeah, he certainly would that. I want to see him
Speaker 6: against the elite. I put Protest like top three, top
Speaker 6: four for sure. I don't know if Mediic wants to
Speaker 6: climb the ladder that quickly. I think that is a
Speaker 6: huge challenge, no question about it. Is he a guy
Speaker 6: that could surprise us all and maybe get a knock up?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 6: I do think he's that explosive, He's that fast, he's
Speaker 6: big for the division, and just the fact that he's
Speaker 6: calling out something like Protest I think shows where his
Speaker 6: confidence and where he thinks his skill level is at.
Speaker 6: So yeah, I think would be extremely entertaining. I don't
Speaker 6: see that one going the distance either. I think someone
Speaker 6: would get finished or it would be an absolute classic,
Speaker 6: you know, if it did go the distance, just because
Speaker 6: both those guys have crazy offensive arsenals.
Speaker 5: But if I'm managing.
Speaker 6: Someone like Medic, I'm saying, ah, yes, I like the confidence,
Speaker 6: but let's slow down a little bit. Let's take someone
Speaker 6: in and around maybe twelve to ten like that bat
Speaker 6: range as far as the rankings go.
Speaker 4: Cody. Not sure why that says islamikashev won for Meta UFC.
Speaker 4: I was of the belief that Carlos Protest is the
Speaker 4: number one contender, So maybe you guys could chase that
Speaker 4: for me, because if Protest is the number one contender,
Speaker 4: I'm not sure Medicic is going to get that fight.
Speaker 7: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Again, you do need to stay relatively active if you
Speaker 4: are Protests. Maybe they have Michael Morales plans for him.
Speaker 4: I don't know, but congrats to medic and he came
Speaker 4: into the octagon Kenny average fight time three minutes, fifty
Speaker 4: nine SECONDSZ and it went down. It went down. All right,
Speaker 4: We're gonna uh, we'll go three wide and continue the conversation.
Speaker 4: Let's uh, let's is it rated rated rated RJ rated.
Speaker 3: Let's go discuss this is rated R with r J Clifford.
Speaker 3: The fighting, that's that's the fun part. It's like Hansel
Speaker 3: from Zulander, which is so fucking hot right now, dude, Like,
Speaker 3: well think about it, like I don't know who he is.
Speaker 8: I just know he's arrested.
Speaker 3: I you know, googled him.
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Speaker 4: And thanks to the great Charlie Arnold for the intro
Speaker 4: and it is rated R with all. I got it wrong.
Speaker 4: I got it wrong either way.
Speaker 2: R J.
Speaker 4: Clifford back in the United States of America. I wonder
Speaker 4: if he has a Serbia mug. I don't know if
Speaker 4: you bought a Serbia mug.
Speaker 5: Ah.
Speaker 4: Welcome home, buddy, welcome home.
Speaker 9: Glad to be back.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean shit, man, I did not put Serbia
Speaker 3: on my list of like places I thought would be fantastic.
Speaker 3: I didn't think any place could replace London or Paris
Speaker 3: as like a European hotspot. But Serbia, man's where the
Speaker 3: kids smoke London arts, the women love fighting and the
Speaker 3: men wear purses, but fuck dude, they love their ass
Speaker 3: kicking and that environment was sick. We got the flares, annik,
Speaker 3: We got the flares we were making.
Speaker 4: I thought there were gonna be more, and uh they
Speaker 4: were not omnipresent. But yeah, finally, I was waiting all
Speaker 4: night for those.
Speaker 3: You felt you just felt it so like I didn't
Speaker 3: know this, But the doors in the venue are this
Speaker 3: thick and steel, and some of them have an AK
Speaker 3: forty seven with like the circle and line through it,
Speaker 3: like they have bulletproof doors Kenny in that venue because
Speaker 3: the fans are so nuts that they need to like
Speaker 3: bomb proof shit, Like, that's what I'm talking about.
Speaker 9: That's where you hold it. Mixed martial arts.
Speaker 3: Contest, bulletproof, bulletproof doors Kenny.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I love it. I love it.
Speaker 7: Man.
Speaker 6: So you've been all over the world, dude, going to
Speaker 6: these different fights. Well, what was your take on the
Speaker 6: crowd there?
Speaker 4: Yeah, and how do you compare it to Paris? Because
Speaker 4: take Paris on the pedestal, So.
Speaker 3: A couple of things. The atmosphere was fantastic. The fans
Speaker 3: are awesome, and I think we all kind of like
Speaker 3: youtubed Serbian basketball crowds at home, and just the anarchy
Speaker 3: that's there. If there's just like a thick cloud of
Speaker 3: smoke over those basketball games from flares and cigarettes, it
Speaker 3: just gives them awesome, just like Kuma Tay type of environment.
Speaker 3: That was great.
Speaker 9: The fans had all these chants.
Speaker 3: I made the mistake of tweeting like hey, what do
Speaker 3: these chants mean and just turned into just a giant
Speaker 3: thread of international incidents and culture battles with other countries.
Speaker 3: So that was a mistake. But yeah, man, I think
Speaker 3: I think the compared to like Paris in London. Because
Speaker 3: the Serbians didn't do that great in the middle.
Speaker 8: Of the car.
Speaker 3: That kind of took a little bit of the wind
Speaker 3: out of the sales. It obviously, rush Meticic saved it
Speaker 3: the factor for me. I didn't know this, but because
Speaker 3: the fans are so bunkers in Belgrade at the arena
Speaker 3: day of events, they are not allowed to sell booze
Speaker 3: in the arena or within like a two mile radius.
Speaker 9: Just imagine that environment. If those Serbians.
Speaker 3: Had the correct blood alcohol level for an international sporting contest,
Speaker 3: like that's the only thing holding them back.
Speaker 4: It's like five hours on the front end they can't
Speaker 4: serve alcohol. And then I know there were some members
Speaker 4: of our crew that were worried that when we got
Speaker 4: back to the hotel bar because there's I think a
Speaker 4: two hour window after the show, maybe they can't serve.
Speaker 4: But that proved to be a falsehood. The gin was
Speaker 4: absolutely flowing at the fight, So Kenny, I just wanted
Speaker 4: to jump in here.
Speaker 1: R J.
Speaker 4: You sort of wrote something to the effective in an
Speaker 4: email to me that you know, maybe eight months in
Speaker 4: a Mexican prison isn't necessarily the most ideal foundation for
Speaker 4: an Mma main event.
Speaker 3: It sure makes for great like uh, pre production material, right,
Speaker 3: Like if you want like some hype to talk like
Speaker 3: that's you got a guy debut, you know, Iroschmtitch debuting
Speaker 3: against a dude who spend eight months and like call
Speaker 3: it fet better, rally, prison or I don't know, I
Speaker 3: don't know what you want to call it. But man,
Speaker 3: talk about not showing up. But I know Iroschmitich is
Speaker 3: just a great finisher and that fucking combo Canny left
Speaker 3: every left knee soccer kick to the body, knee on belly.
Speaker 3: He has that extra two feet of distance to just
Speaker 3: to just go kill shot, Like I don't you know,
Speaker 3: I don't know what de Rock could have done or
Speaker 3: prepare to make things go like that much better. But man,
Speaker 3: if you don't show up a hundred percent ready against Iroshmetitch,
Speaker 3: you are gonna be posterized quickly.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 6: So it's bittersweet when I see those types of finishes
Speaker 6: because I always want to collect as much data as possible,
Speaker 6: like what does he look like in round three? What
Speaker 6: does he look like in round four or five? It
Speaker 6: goes a distance. If he gets hurt, how does he back?
Speaker 6: How far do you think Earl's Menitch can go in
Speaker 6: this division. Like he's smashing everybody really quickly, so that
Speaker 6: is clear he needs higher level competition, But what's the
Speaker 6: ceiling for this guy?
Speaker 3: What do you think Roshmenitch has less decisions than Carlos Protests,
Speaker 3: shorter average fight time than Michael Morales, and a cooler
Speaker 3: nickname than Gabriel Bonfiend. Like you've got these twenty something
Speaker 3: that's the biggest thing with Walter where he's got these
Speaker 3: twenty something year olds. Rosch Manach is thirty three. He
Speaker 3: got these kill or twenty something year olds coming up
Speaker 3: that are just starting to kind of knock on the
Speaker 3: door he's in that he's like kind of behind those
Speaker 3: guys despite being six years older. So that's the biggest
Speaker 3: thing to me. It's like there's all obviously the skill
Speaker 3: set and we've got to have all those questions, but
Speaker 3: welterweight is just ridiculous right now with guys different styles,
Speaker 3: age groups, whether the trajectory of their careers, it's like
Speaker 3: we're talking about what to do with them next, and
Speaker 3: it's like there's a lot of great names, but you know,
Speaker 3: Carlos Protests and urushminischh like that'd be that would be fantastic,
Speaker 3: But like.
Speaker 9: Does does he leap frog bond fiend? Does he leap
Speaker 9: frog Morale?
Speaker 3: Like, there's just you would have to leap frog guys
Speaker 3: that are ranked high of him to get those crazy
Speaker 3: awesome matchups.
Speaker 9: So I feel like he's kind of in the give me.
Speaker 10: Super cool fun matchup phase right now, just because there's
Speaker 10: like pure rankings wise, there's guys ahead of them, So
Speaker 10: if frogs those guys, that definitely shows how much the
Speaker 10: UFC feels eurochmanag has like plenty to deliver.
Speaker 4: Well and at the very least you can sell protests
Speaker 4: and medics in the main event. And the only reason
Speaker 4: I even bring it up is because the call out
Speaker 4: is there and you have to wonder inwardly how many
Speaker 4: people are actually burning up the phone lines asking to
Speaker 4: fight protests and if Carlos decides as the number one
Speaker 4: contender to take a main event, because this weight is
Speaker 4: going to be long, and mind you right that if
Speaker 4: Michael Morales is the backup in theory protests despite the
Speaker 4: number one next to his name, has a whole year
Speaker 4: now right potentially before title fight, so it might be
Speaker 4: the company going to and saying, hey, we'd love you
Speaker 4: at the main event. What of these fights do you
Speaker 4: think maybe is the most winnable or the most marketable
Speaker 4: or which fight do you want? And maybe he chooses
Speaker 4: Mena over Bond theme or Sean Brady whomever the fuck?
Speaker 4: So who knows on the d Rod front? Real quick?
Speaker 4: If I could you know, it's I don't know. I
Speaker 4: do think that Uh you can sort of in one
Speaker 4: breath laud this amazing performance clutch, quick, decisive, uh, instinctual,
Speaker 4: and then also be like, dude, if d Rod all
Speaker 4: week you're saying like you gotta be mindful of round one,
Speaker 4: then wouldn't you think you really got to be mindful
Speaker 4: of the first thirty seconds? Like what are we doing here?
Speaker 3: Yeah? Uh didn't show up man, And look he's gonna
Speaker 3: be forty this year, right right, Rather you know, you know,
Speaker 3: like we saw, you know, like Yamblohovich right as amazing
Speaker 3: as Aljamin now the host sterling looked in that one.
Speaker 3: It's like, you know, he's the second oldest fighter in
Speaker 3: the division. But in fairness, right, like I don't want
Speaker 3: to take away from the performances about those guys because
Speaker 3: de Rud's never been nuked like that ever, and Yoan
Speaker 3: Beohovich is never I think maybe like pre UFC and
Speaker 3: like his like sixth fight fifteen years ago, maybe he
Speaker 3: had like a first round loss, you know, a first
Speaker 3: round stoppage loss. But yeah, that's what you're looking for
Speaker 3: when you're a four to one favorite, is to do
Speaker 3: exactly that right, and you're in your hometown. You've got
Speaker 3: you know, kind of a bond villain in front of you.
Speaker 3: You know what the crowd wants to see, and you
Speaker 3: you deliver above and beyond. So I don't want to
Speaker 3: take away from the performances of the winners, but you know,
Speaker 3: sometimes guys just don't show up on Foreign soil.
Speaker 4: Rated r with r J Clifford here live on the
Speaker 4: Anti Comploring Podcast. Thanks to everybody for subscribing to the
Speaker 4: Anti Comploring Podcast YouTube channel. So I messaged Israel des Sagnya,
Speaker 4: I've never seen a fighter more calm before combat than
Speaker 4: Navajos Sterling. He outsted Yambohovi's the former champion two minutes
Speaker 4: and fifty six seconds. I would like to get your
Speaker 4: respective thoughts on this, but r J, I'll start with you.
Speaker 4: I've never seen a dude more sort of matter of
Speaker 4: fact about what was about to happen in the octagon
Speaker 4: in fifteen years of doing this than that.
Speaker 3: A host more than Robby Lawler, because that guy fights
Speaker 3: like he's ordering a sandwich.
Speaker 4: I would say that soul taker Robbie Lawler.
Speaker 3: That might be for me, that's the one. But I'm
Speaker 3: with you though, Like that says a lot that you
Speaker 3: think he's the commest one ever. Yeah, eleven and oh
Speaker 3: now twenty eight I think, and coming in on short notice.
Speaker 3: Great team. A division that desperately, you know, not desperately,
Speaker 3: but could really use some young action fighters two out
Speaker 3: five pounds. He's everything that fans could hope for in
Speaker 3: that division. Like I said, Yan Blohovich is you know,
Speaker 3: forty three but durable shit man, Like even when you
Speaker 3: beat him like you're you're in for a fight every
Speaker 3: single time, and he just just ripped right through him.
Speaker 3: Mavo Sterling has maybe the best ground in pound in
Speaker 3: that division. I mean, I know he hurt Yon going down,
Speaker 3: but Yall was still cognizant, still defending guard, and just
Speaker 3: the way he grabbed the wrist and elbowed and reared
Speaker 3: up to get more distance. And you know, similar to
Speaker 3: or Schmetish man. He just knows how to like put
Speaker 3: himself in a position to deliver the most damage.
Speaker 9: He sees something special. Man, sweet name too, Navajo Sterling?
Speaker 4: You miss a poster that sna these are the details. No,
Speaker 4: I'm just fucking I listened to. I have to. I
Speaker 4: listened that file every time because I'm like, fuck, is
Speaker 4: it navav? Is it nav or not? Anyway? KEM flow
Speaker 4: any thoughts on Navajo Sterling.
Speaker 6: Yeah, obviously he's a competitor, Like when it's him time,
Speaker 6: when it's his time to go out there and fight,
Speaker 6: he is going to maximize all of his skills on
Speaker 6: fight night. Not everybody's able to do that, So he
Speaker 6: definitely has a knack and a talent for that. His
Speaker 6: offense is phenomenal, Like you look at his body type,
Speaker 6: the power he produces, the speed he produces, the combinations
Speaker 6: he throws.
Speaker 5: I love all of that.
Speaker 6: I still want to see him a little bit more
Speaker 6: defensively sound, and I'd love to see more ground game
Speaker 6: out of him, Like if he's on his back, can
Speaker 6: he get back to his feet repeatedly technically without giving
Speaker 6: up bad positions?
Speaker 5: Things like that. But as far as his age and
Speaker 5: what he's done so far in the UFC, it is
Speaker 5: extremely impressive.
Speaker 4: We do have four more minutes with r J. Clifford,
Speaker 4: and again, I mean maybe we can negotiate a little
Speaker 4: bit more time producers with this guy. Right like we
Speaker 4: got Longo up against this guy. I'm just getting started
Speaker 4: in the nature of time, though, RJ. I would like
Speaker 4: to get to Bogden Grod and the submission of Dennis Bosukia.
Speaker 4: A lot of controversy surrounding this one. What were your
Speaker 4: thoughts on maybe the debatable nature of the end of
Speaker 4: this fight.
Speaker 3: So we got to understand to mixed martial arts, the
Speaker 3: way that the rules and referees are trained and every
Speaker 3: way things are constructed. Sometimes there isn't a perfect answer.
Speaker 3: Like this isn't baseball, where there's there should always there's
Speaker 3: always an exact black and white answer. There's gray areas
Speaker 3: on purpose, and its left to the referee to figure
Speaker 3: that out. This is one of those situations where I
Speaker 3: don't think there was a black and white, one hundred
Speaker 3: percent correct ruling. But like Thomas Sowell said, like there's
Speaker 3: no such thing as solutions, there's only trade offs.
Speaker 9: And I think.
Speaker 3: When the phantom kind of three tappy tap like substance happened.
Speaker 3: He was gurgling the choke, look that he was getting
Speaker 3: closer it, And in that moment when the tap happened,
Speaker 3: I didn't I thought that Jason Herzog made the right
Speaker 3: move now right away he started defending even after like
Speaker 3: the tap came. But that happens sometimes. Can you know this?
Speaker 3: Fighters will tap and then change their minds and be
Speaker 3: like no, I think I'm okay. That happens all the time.
Speaker 3: I think Jason Herzog he would have been He would
Speaker 3: have been in a worse trouble if he kind of
Speaker 3: stepped in and then backed off. That would have been
Speaker 3: a massive issue. My biggest criticism is this, that wasn't
Speaker 3: a heel hook, that wasn't a knee bar, that wasn't
Speaker 3: a kimera.
Speaker 9: Chokes are the safest way.
Speaker 3: To lose a mixed marsh Lart's contest. There's no safer
Speaker 3: way to lose that fight. So unless you're not unless
Speaker 3: you're one hundred percent sure to stop a fight when
Speaker 3: it's a joke, I think you let it play out
Speaker 3: because the consequences they're not that severe. That would be
Speaker 3: my biggest criticism of that whole situation is when it's
Speaker 3: a choke, be a thousand percent sure, And I don't
Speaker 3: think Jason was Kenny.
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's a tricky one.
Speaker 6: You know, first of all, for Dennis to be in
Speaker 6: that position, it's like you hate to say that, but like,
Speaker 6: don't put yourself in that position first and foremost, right, Like,
Speaker 6: you're already in a very compromising position. You're up against
Speaker 6: the cage, so you really don't have a way to roll,
Speaker 6: and then you're making a movement which looks like a
Speaker 6: tap even though it's not a tap, Like why would
Speaker 6: you do that?
Speaker 5: Like who has the answer to this question?
Speaker 6: It's like why are you reaching to scratch your head
Speaker 6: at that moment when I, oh, you didn't want to
Speaker 6: answer the question, why the hell did you raise your hand?
Speaker 6: Like it's those kind of things where you cannot let
Speaker 6: it go there and you know I'll go even further
Speaker 6: or Jay. It happens to fighters. It happens in jiu
Speaker 6: jitsu matches where guys will pretend like they're doing a
Speaker 6: little tap, so the guy takes it easy. He's like, yeah,
Speaker 6: I wasn't tapping, Oh what do you mean? Like so
Speaker 6: people are gonna game it both ways. It's unfortunate, and yeah,
Speaker 6: I don't think there's one hundred percent answer to what happened,
Speaker 6: but I don't fall Jason Herzog's like, did he make
Speaker 6: the motion for a tap?
Speaker 3: Yeah? He did.
Speaker 5: Was he in a choke? Yeah?
Speaker 8: He was?
Speaker 4: Eh? Sorry, bro, Like, oh, je, I'm gonna let you
Speaker 4: get back in here, right, But you shouldn't, in my opinion,
Speaker 4: be allowed to get away with a panicky tap, right?
Speaker 4: And one tap is enough?
Speaker 3: Right?
Speaker 4: You guys have to understand. I know I got people
Speaker 4: coming to maybe like, man, John, you've been doing this
Speaker 4: fifteen years and you still don't know what a tap is, right, Like,
Speaker 4: you can't tap. You can't get away with a panicky
Speaker 4: tap if you're bogged in Grod. Right, your opponent shouldn't
Speaker 4: be able to get away with a panicky tap. And
Speaker 4: al Jamin Sterling and I talked in the bar afterwards,
Speaker 4: and there's a lot to be discussed here, and he
Speaker 4: was sort of very respectful about it. You know, I
Speaker 4: can't go back on the call. Jason Herzog can't go
Speaker 4: back on what he does. Right. He laid hands on
Speaker 4: bogged and Grod did the referee in this instance, and
Speaker 4: once that happens, you absolutely have to stop the fight.
Speaker 4: Very competent review official. The ro was Mark Smith. So
Speaker 4: uh r, J. I know you sort of talked a
Speaker 4: little bit about sort of it's not a heel hook, right,
Speaker 4: And I do understand that, but you know, unless we're
Speaker 4: gonna sort of affect change in a big way as
Speaker 4: far as that's concerned, Like I feel like you you
Speaker 4: sort of can't get away with tapping even once.
Speaker 3: Well, think of it went the other way. Think of
Speaker 3: if like that tap happened, Herzog didn't stop it and
Speaker 3: Mazukya gets out and knocks him out later, then we'd
Speaker 3: all be crucifying Herzog because he.
Speaker 9: Tapped and didn't stop the fight. Right, Like, there's right again,
Speaker 9: there's mixed martial arts.
Speaker 3: There's just there's such a great area and referees have
Speaker 3: such such a tough, tough job, and I think Jason
Speaker 3: Herzog at worst a top three ref and mixed martial
Speaker 3: arts if not the actual best one. And I think
Speaker 3: you handled that as best as referee could. And there's
Speaker 3: and there's situations mixed mars. It's like a catch and
Speaker 3: foot in the NFL like no one. No one seems
Speaker 3: to know, and every year it changes. These taps are
Speaker 3: kind of the same way. And you know, there's there's
Speaker 3: some situations where there is not a black and white
Speaker 3: correct answer, and I think Jason Herzog made the best
Speaker 3: possible answer in that scenario.
Speaker 4: Well, I guess I'll have to ask you about Michael
Speaker 4: Olivera next week.
Speaker 3: Okay, okay, I won't forget about him, dude. He's twenty
Speaker 3: twenty eight year olds coming up undefeated knockout artists. That's
Speaker 3: the thing, that's the ship.
Speaker 4: Yeah, all right, man, Well, I enjoy your family and
Speaker 4: are you going to Vegas from attash camera and Colin
Speaker 4: sal kild Of course I am.
Speaker 3: Of course we'll be there.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 4: How about how.
Speaker 3: About how much the UFC loves Serbia? Man, getting John
Speaker 3: Annak on the Cans for an international fight night.
Speaker 9: I mean that's that means they mean business.
Speaker 4: Hey, give me business.
Speaker 3: Go John, don't come cheap right call my number. Welcomes Serbia.
Speaker 3: Love you, buddy, Thank you.
Speaker 4: Rated R with R. J. Clifford every week here on
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Speaker 11: Always the true professional John.
Speaker 8: How long was that flight?
Speaker 4: Raymond fucking Pete? Ladies and gentlemen, Hi, Ray fucking Pete?
Speaker 4: How long was the flight JFK ten hours to Belgrade?
Speaker 4: Ser Well, it's it's it was just I had some
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Speaker 4: but I went to which was eleven hours, and then
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Speaker 8: For certain that the curtain. Oh, I thought you were rapping.
Speaker 3: I am.
Speaker 4: I mean, you're taking it a step further. So we
Speaker 4: were just talking about Dennis Bezuki is unfortunate. Yeah. So,
Speaker 4: and for those that don't know, right, Dennis Bozuki came
Speaker 4: up during Team Sarah Long ago and not to use
Speaker 4: the verb a strange to describe your relationship right now.
Speaker 4: But you guys have no communication, so you are an
Speaker 4: objective party on this, are you not?
Speaker 11: I mean, look, I still have I still have a
Speaker 11: lot of love for his his mom and dad.
Speaker 8: I mean, he comes from a great family.
Speaker 4: So that so can you call it straight for us
Speaker 4: or no? Because we all love Dennis straight? I mean
Speaker 4: all right, so no, I mean we all thought Dennis right.
Speaker 4: But when I I went back and watched it just
Speaker 4: because al Jamayne and I had a conversation and uh,
Speaker 4: you know not unlike a referee, right, the referee's job
Speaker 4: is harder than the play by play guy's job. But
Speaker 4: we both only get one shot, right, Kenny, Like I
Speaker 4: could have been on the other side of it instead
Speaker 4: of being like, no, he tapped. So Ray, what were
Speaker 4: your thoughts on on that fight ending sequence?
Speaker 11: I mean, look at the when it ended real time,
Speaker 11: it did look like he tapped. Then when it went
Speaker 11: kind of slowed it down. Yeah, it looked like it
Speaker 11: could have been some I don't think he did tap,
Speaker 11: but I think what you what was Aljo's take?
Speaker 8: Because he was there, I know he probably was upset about.
Speaker 4: It, but that he didn't tap.
Speaker 8: Yeah, it's just it seemed like I'm trying to figure that.
Speaker 11: I mean, it's like all the stars aligned for a disaster,
Speaker 11: like he should have no win.
Speaker 8: You know.
Speaker 11: It just there was too much confusion, and I don't
Speaker 11: put it this way. No one's gonna even think of
Speaker 11: overturning that, you know what I mean.
Speaker 4: Well, I suggested to al Jo that they appealed just
Speaker 4: for the aesthetic, right. The m jumped, Well, let me
Speaker 4: just finish it, yea Zukiah, No, Well, just for the aesthetic, right,
Speaker 4: even though they know it's going to be fruitless. You
Speaker 4: file the appeal, you get the headlight on MMA junkie
Speaker 4: that Bazukia is challenging this, and then maybe as a
Speaker 4: fighter who's now I think one in five in the UFC,
Speaker 4: this controversy actually helps you get another fight because had
Speaker 4: he lost to bogged and grod and I know there
Speaker 4: wasn't much time left in the round, but had he
Speaker 4: lost a few seconds later, he's almost assuredly not getting
Speaker 4: another shot in the UFC. He fought really well. He
Speaker 4: was in the best shape of his life. I feel
Speaker 4: bad for him, but we all got to kind of
Speaker 4: call it like we see it.
Speaker 8: You know, Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 11: No, no, no, it doesn't man, No, no, I had
Speaker 11: talked to I did see Bazuka before the fight. He
Speaker 11: had to stopped by the Jim, and I thought that
Speaker 11: was a great fight for him. So there's a lot
Speaker 11: of there's a lot going on. I don't think he'll
Speaker 11: get another chance though, for sure. I don't think they
Speaker 11: give his shit. They just look at the end result.
Speaker 11: I don't think they'll even well, well.
Speaker 4: That makes them sound entirely heartless, right, I mean, there's
Speaker 4: a lot of competition for featherweight slots in the world.
Speaker 4: He's one in five in the UFC. You know, Like,
Speaker 4: I loved him, I really I thought, you know, this
Speaker 4: was a good matchup and he shot great matchup.
Speaker 8: Yeah, great matchup. He had his moments.
Speaker 11: First round, definitely lost. I'm not The problem is, I'm
Speaker 11: not putting a lot. I'm not putting a lot of
Speaker 11: weight on bogged and grind. I don't I don't know
Speaker 11: how he's gonna win another fight in the UFC. His
Speaker 11: stand up was like atrocious. Bazooka should have definitely been
Speaker 11: able to get him out. I'd be more concerned with that,
Speaker 11: he had his chances in the second round and how
Speaker 11: he shrewed that up. I have no idea, but he
Speaker 11: could have got he could have gotten the mat at
Speaker 11: there for sure.
Speaker 6: Ray, I don't know if you want to go anyw
Speaker 6: or not, but like, what what do you think is
Speaker 6: plaguing Dennis?
Speaker 5: Is it?
Speaker 6: Is it not fighting up to his potential or does
Speaker 6: he not have the skills to hang with the guys
Speaker 6: in the UFCS, you know, way division, Like, what's your
Speaker 6: diagnosis of the situation?
Speaker 11: Uh, definitely super talent, definitely talented kid might honestly, I
Speaker 11: mean and hindsight is twenty twenty, so I don't want
Speaker 11: to do that. But like, I just think he got
Speaker 11: in there too soon. If he would have waited a
Speaker 11: couple of times where he was so anxious to get
Speaker 11: in there, it's this whole goal was I gotta I
Speaker 11: gotta get in I gotta get it. And I think
Speaker 11: he shot himself in the foot. If he would have
Speaker 11: waited two years and honed the skills like he did,
Speaker 11: he would have been a different That's my opinion. Yeah,
Speaker 11: And I'm not I because I was there, Like, you know,
Speaker 11: he traveled around the world with al he was with
Speaker 11: al Joe, so he was in the position to be there.
Speaker 11: But I think he should have taken more time. Even
Speaker 11: his first fight on the Contender series, he he fucking
Speaker 11: had COVID like he had. He's a lot from COVID
Speaker 11: and he I didn't think he should have taken the fight,
Speaker 11: but he did, you know, and he lost and and
Speaker 11: he got a lot of opportunities. But he was always
Speaker 11: around and I think if he would have taken his
Speaker 11: time a little more and hone those skills, he would
Speaker 11: have been not in his spoties in now because I
Speaker 11: don't know how you climb out of a hole like this.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 11: He's still young enough, that's for sure, but he's got
Speaker 11: a really he's got to do some soul searching inside.
Speaker 5: He needs a reset, is what you're saying.
Speaker 8: He's a reset and time.
Speaker 11: And like we always talk about it on the show,
Speaker 11: they don't give you fights to really reset the right way.
Speaker 11: We said about like I forget who we were talking
Speaker 11: about last week, what do you do to get back
Speaker 11: on track? Like Bogden Graud was a great fight for him,
Speaker 11: Like that was I don't I'm not saying gimme, but
Speaker 11: that's about as good of a fight as you're going
Speaker 11: to get based on even the fights they gave him.
Speaker 4: All Right, what's Bogden Grod's featherweight Tapology ranking or what's
Speaker 4: his UFC ranking? Yeah, there aren't. I think it was
Speaker 4: Kyle Preppolik who maybe said in advance of this fight
Speaker 4: with Mattow's round Betsky, every fight in the UFC's lightweight
Speaker 4: division is a boss fight. Yeah tough.
Speaker 11: Every fight in the UFC is is a do a
Speaker 11: die fight. That's that's kind of the beauty of the sport,
Speaker 11: you know what I mean. So yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 11: I think that that was my thing. I think he
Speaker 11: jumped the gun. You know, he was around good guys,
Speaker 11: and you know that doesn't really mean anything, you know.
Speaker 11: I mean, it does mean something, but it doesn't mean
Speaker 11: that you're ready to be in there.
Speaker 8: And I think.
Speaker 11: And even when he did go into the contenders, he
Speaker 11: was good, He really was. He's was good, but he
Speaker 11: wasn't as well rounded as he is now, I think,
Speaker 11: And he was young enough to take the time. I
Speaker 11: think that's where I'm coming from. He's only twenty eight now.
Speaker 11: I think if he went out and did a reset,
Speaker 11: he could still come back and do something. But I
Speaker 11: think at the time he did it, if he would
Speaker 11: have waited another two years and really instead of being
Speaker 11: so obsessed with the UFC, like even my wife would
Speaker 11: feel bad for me, and Dennis just wants to be
Speaker 11: in the UFC. Is a nice Yeah, he was always
Speaker 11: a nice kid.
Speaker 8: He's he's a good kid.
Speaker 11: And again, like I really mean this from his mother
Speaker 11: is an absolute dull, you know what I mean. Like
Speaker 11: he's got great parents, he's he's a good kid. Like,
Speaker 11: but all right, I think he was misguided a little bit.
Speaker 4: Yeaheah, I think that's a good way to put it. So, uh, ray,
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Speaker 8: We could go, okay, let's go, and it.
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Speaker 8: I can assume, Thank god.
Speaker 4: John so Yaan Blohovich, at forty three years of age,
Speaker 4: had just signed a new UFC long term contract, right, I.
Speaker 11: Know, No, Well, but it's sort of just good this
Speaker 11: hope for everybody.
Speaker 8: That's great.
Speaker 4: Well, no, it's sort of well, I think he's a
Speaker 4: future UFC Hall of Famer. It's sort of just a
Speaker 4: understanding that you know, he's not going to fight anywhere else, right,
Speaker 4: and that he's going to retire a UFC fighter. And
Speaker 4: I got to I actually asked him for a picture
Speaker 4: after the fight, because I don't know if I'm going
Speaker 4: to see him again. I think Yanbohovich is probably going
Speaker 4: to retire. And I got to spend a minute with
Speaker 4: his wife, who has been just behind him every step
Speaker 4: of the way in this career. And you know, I
Speaker 4: hope that sort of history will look back fondly upon
Speaker 4: his title win against Reys and his retirement, excuse me,
Speaker 4: his successful title defense against Adasanya and just all around
Speaker 4: good egg and I do think this is probably the
Speaker 4: last we see of Wohovich, but tremendous career.
Speaker 8: I thought, Yeah, now I agree with one hundred percent. Yeah,
Speaker 8: and just contract now what you said, he just signed
Speaker 8: to contract it.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but it's sort of a formality, right. He got
Speaker 4: a new deal I think going into this fight, but
Speaker 4: maybe a four fight deal. But it's sort of an
Speaker 4: understanding that he's not gonna go take off his gloves
Speaker 4: and do bare knuckle or you know that he's going
Speaker 4: to retire UFC fighter. I don't think I shouldn't have
Speaker 4: led with that. I apologize right.
Speaker 11: Because I'm saying that's that's a nice way to stop
Speaker 11: the guy from doing anything he wants to do.
Speaker 4: If well, it's not like he's forty three years.
Speaker 7: Let's tell it.
Speaker 8: The UFC is they They are good, man, they're good.
Speaker 4: You put me in a position where I'm not putting
Speaker 4: you in a position.
Speaker 7: No.
Speaker 4: I mean, but it's like, if you.
Speaker 11: Can't handle the truth, John, you want the truth, you can't.
Speaker 8: Handle the truth.
Speaker 5: Great movie, wasn't that great?
Speaker 8: What a great scene that was? Kenny? Come on?
Speaker 5: Yeah, Oh my gosh, Cruis fired.
Speaker 4: People who watch this podcast really understand acutely that I'm
Speaker 4: not a shill, and I call it like I see it.
Speaker 4: And anytime I've gotten in trouble with the UFC, it's
Speaker 4: been because of things that I have said on this show.
Speaker 8: I hope you're not getting in trouble.
Speaker 4: So no so, but you know, I for you to
Speaker 4: suggest that they were not doing right by Yambohovich and
Speaker 4: sogning him to a long term deal, I mean, I
Speaker 4: think is a little bit of a leap. But I
Speaker 4: love you and we can definitely move on, I said
Speaker 4: earlier today and Kenny's probably like, what did I sign
Speaker 4: up for? John? But I said that I have never
Speaker 4: seen a fighter look more calm before combat than Navajos Sterling.
Speaker 4: And I don't know it's because well, which was forty
Speaker 4: three or what, but man, he looked like he knew
Speaker 4: what was about to happen.
Speaker 5: And it was like two weeks.
Speaker 4: Notice that he did two weeks exactly.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's crazy.
Speaker 8: Yeah, Look, it's the name of the game.
Speaker 11: You you know, guys get older and you get the
Speaker 11: younger guys to beat him.
Speaker 8: They build up there. You know, it's a.
Speaker 11: Name on their record, but you know what it actually means.
Speaker 11: I'm not sure, but that he did that, he did
Speaker 11: go right at him and he did that. That was
Speaker 11: that was a nice knockgout. So hats off to Sterling.
Speaker 11: I thought that was that was great. But when you
Speaker 11: analyze everything together, it's a little wacky.
Speaker 4: But all right, let's place a bet, then, Raymond Peekle,
Speaker 4: I bet you. I'll bet you the Navajos Sterling becomes
Speaker 4: the UFC light Heavyweight Champion. Now his teammate is the
Speaker 4: champ right now, which Sterling six and zero in the
Speaker 4: UFC eleven and Z is a pro. So I don't
Speaker 4: know what the odds would be, but I will I'm
Speaker 4: willing to say that I believe foundationally and with the
Speaker 4: mental game Kenny, that Navajos Sterling in this division is
Speaker 4: going to at least fight for the title, if not
Speaker 4: become the champ.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think there's a strong possibility.
Speaker 4: And you know what actually was the quote that actually
Speaker 4: makes me say that is that he he said in
Speaker 4: our fighter meeting, He's like, people don't understand I've spent
Speaker 4: these years like developing the energy system for the grappling,
Speaker 4: Like he'll take you the fuck down. Like people. Sometimes
Speaker 4: you sit in the fighter meeting, You're like, okay, you
Speaker 4: know that's talking about fainting. And I'm telling you, Eugene
Speaker 4: Barman did not want him to take this fight.
Speaker 8: But he Why is that? You think?
Speaker 4: Because he had two weeks notice and he wasn't in camp,
Speaker 4: you know, but he's he was coming off the Ewan
Speaker 4: Kute Laba win, which was the best training camp of
Speaker 4: his life, and he sort of slammed his body around
Speaker 4: and recognized that he was still responsive, and yeah, he
Speaker 4: took the fight. But yeah, you know, Eugene, I just
Speaker 4: think had pause, you know, that Camp City Kickboxing had
Speaker 4: trained for Bohovich twice for Olberg and Autosanda, you know,
Speaker 4: and still weren't necessarily behind it.
Speaker 5: But what does.
Speaker 11: Eugene say about those two guys fighting each other? As
Speaker 11: he mentioned that.
Speaker 4: So Robert Whittaker, And this is maybe an angle that's
Speaker 4: neither here nor there, but Whittaker has said he won't
Speaker 4: fight either one of those guys. Wow, and Whittaker's now
Speaker 4: a light heavyweight content or I would imagine a ranked
Speaker 4: one at that, you know, in our fighter meeting, Sterling intimated,
Speaker 4: I think that, you know, we'll sort of cross that
Speaker 4: bridge when we come there. But he he would, right, like,
Speaker 4: it's not under their own possibility that Navajo Sterling could
Speaker 4: be an interim light heavyweight champion, right and if he
Speaker 4: signed some time to fight for the interim belt, he's
Speaker 4: basically fight the y. So I don't know. I think
Speaker 4: it's a tricky situation, Kenny, in a sport that sometimes
Speaker 4: presents these things, you know.
Speaker 6: Gosh, yeah, and you know, I feel like, you know,
Speaker 6: the UFC does not like.
Speaker 5: It at all, right, I knows about this.
Speaker 6: When you have two elite fighters in that way class
Speaker 6: who are already talking about not fighting each other. So
Speaker 6: I'm curious to see how is the falls moving forward
Speaker 6: and you know, can Carlos get healthy and all that stuff,
Speaker 6: and what would he think about, you know, Sterling getting
Speaker 6: certain opportunities.
Speaker 5: So it's it's.
Speaker 6: A tricky situation and I'm curious how that's going to
Speaker 6: affect coaches, managers. Jim's moving forward of like do I
Speaker 6: take in this other two hundred and five pounder?
Speaker 8: Right?
Speaker 5: It's not always an easy decision.
Speaker 11: Yeah, I mean we've run into troubles now where you know,
Speaker 11: like the manager has two guys fighting each other. Yeah,
Speaker 11: and that's not looking upon good. But when a coach does,
Speaker 11: it's even way worse because they're coming from the same gym.
Speaker 11: So I think Eugene's a really good dude, and he's
Speaker 11: a grounded guy, common sense guy. He'll figure it out.
Speaker 11: But I I would want nothing to do with it.
Speaker 4: Yeah, he just the fucking man. You know, a lot
Speaker 4: of really really good guy he is a lot of
Speaker 4: coaches wouldn't even want it to be public that he
Speaker 4: had some hesitation.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 4: He's just a man of veracity, tremendous. Mike Canto of
Speaker 4: Andre Paul let all those coaches there, so real quick guys,
Speaker 4: the two hundred and five pound di vision Right, so
Speaker 4: Nav called out Khalil Rountree Junior among others. Right, great,
Speaker 4: great fight, and when you look at him already being
Speaker 4: number ten in the world and Jamal Hill, for example,
Speaker 4: is five, he's not even in the division, right, I
Speaker 4: mean Ken oh, right, Khlil Rowntree Junior, former world title challenger.
Speaker 4: I think a main event against nab makes sense and
Speaker 4: then all of a sudden, you win that fight and
Speaker 4: your next fight might be for the world title. At
Speaker 4: twelve to zero.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean for everything that we're talking about, it
Speaker 6: seems like Sterling's not shy to get close to that belts.
Speaker 6: I mean, like, what do you do after you beat
Speaker 6: Clil Rountree, Especially if he does it impressively, it's like
Speaker 6: maybe he gets the next shot here, So you know,
Speaker 6: it seems like there's a collision course happening between those
Speaker 6: two guys in the gym.
Speaker 4: But yeah, I love that fight.
Speaker 6: I think that's a huge test for Khalil. It's a
Speaker 6: huge test obviously for Sterling, but again I think it
Speaker 6: shows where sterlings head is at. You know, beating a
Speaker 6: guy a true, true veteran former champion like Bulhovic on
Speaker 6: two weeks notice.
Speaker 5: Doing it in that manner.
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, he probably deserves a shot, you know that,
Speaker 6: that opportunity against Clil Rountree.
Speaker 4: Thanks everybody watching the Ane Comploring Podcast live on a Monday.
Speaker 4: It's the Ray long Go Minute, and I know what
Speaker 4: Ray wants to talk about, so let's just not bury
Speaker 4: the fucking lead anymore. A lot of traffic and Long
Speaker 4: goes MMA and Stady New York. Last week PFL lovey
Speaker 4: did justin Geechee come in and fraud check you for
Speaker 4: suggesting he didn't?
Speaker 11: Oh Gechie Gechie caused a big stir in the gym.
Speaker 11: People were like out of their minds when he walked in.
Speaker 11: Gave a good guy you know again, humble guy, down
Speaker 11: to earth, just wanted to get And I had a
Speaker 11: private room in the back for those guys, so I
Speaker 11: was trying to give everybody their space. So yeah, it was.
Speaker 11: It all worked out good. What a great, great week
Speaker 11: at the gym. And I did get to catch up
Speaker 11: with Dakota's mother, which was absolutely phenomenal. What a sweetheart
Speaker 11: of a lady, What a what a great family they are.
Speaker 11: What I mean I'm telling you, a great family. So
Speaker 11: it was good. I haven't I don't think I've seen
Speaker 11: her in like twenty seven years, and I wasn't even
Speaker 11: sure if she remember me, but of course you know
Speaker 11: she did so and Dakota is a sweetheart that's out
Speaker 11: wish nothing but the best. But the whole family, the kids,
Speaker 11: I didn't I don't think she had kids when I
Speaker 11: know her. So this is all that's probably how long
Speaker 11: ago it was.
Speaker 4: Yeah, if you don't know the story, ray Longo cornered
Speaker 4: Dakota Ditchiva's mom in a boxing match back in the day.
Speaker 4: Do I have that right, Raymond?
Speaker 5: Kick boxing?
Speaker 2: Right?
Speaker 8: Yeah? Kick?
Speaker 11: Oh?
Speaker 8: No, no, boxing?
Speaker 5: It was boxing.
Speaker 8: Wow.
Speaker 11: She fought Alicia Rashley undefeated like a Pernell Whitaker of females.
Speaker 5: Like I didn't know she boxed as well?
Speaker 8: No, she did box yet, wow.
Speaker 11: And she fought for me a little Neglia a bunch
Speaker 11: of times at the taj Mahal which is now the
Speaker 11: Hard Rock Cafe, was owned by Trump back in the day.
Speaker 4: But this Dakota Ditchva, if I'm pronounced.
Speaker 11: Me, let me tell you she's a monster. But what
Speaker 11: a what a feel good moment? And just like again,
Speaker 11: I can't and I can't even.
Speaker 4: I mean, how the long Agoes MMA the epicenter of
Speaker 4: the fucking Mixed Martial Arts Universe last week, right, I
Speaker 4: love it.
Speaker 11: Yeah, we had guys from Australia. I can't think of
Speaker 11: the guy's name. I'm blacking out one another just great people.
Speaker 11: Oh Dan Hardy came in. Yeah, wife, what a another
Speaker 11: just everything was good, you know. Then he did Sarah's podcast.
Speaker 11: Sarah took him out, they went out to eat. Uh,
Speaker 11: I just you know, I don't know, I you.
Speaker 8: Know what it is we were what was that?
Speaker 11: You know what it is, Kenny. When we're traveling, you
Speaker 11: get treated like gold. So you got to reciprocate.
Speaker 5: And yeah, for sure, you know.
Speaker 8: And again and hats off to Archie and.
Speaker 5: They know where they're gonna go, where they're going to
Speaker 5: be treated well.
Speaker 8: Right, yeah, I think I hope.
Speaker 4: So, I mean, yeah, you ar Chiers and Boston. Everybody
Speaker 4: knows your name, right, Yeah what do you Yeah, talk
Speaker 4: to me about Archie?
Speaker 8: No, Archie great, another great kid didn't go his way.
Speaker 11: I feel horrible, but uh, you know, Archie's a guy
Speaker 11: that you know, beat two of my guys and it
Speaker 11: was good even seeing him and Dylan get Yeah, it's
Speaker 11: just good good stuff, man, It's just it was a
Speaker 11: really great week.
Speaker 8: For the gym.
Speaker 11: And of course the big gun, Levon Kobalayev came through
Speaker 11: first round out, Yes, knees against the cage. He did great,
Speaker 11: So we finally got him a fight. He's on the board.
Speaker 11: Like to turn that kid around quick.
Speaker 8: Uh.
Speaker 11: You know, Dylan Montella, James Gonzaleze did a great job
Speaker 11: with the grappling and the cage work. You know, we
Speaker 11: knew the body lock was the guy's go to thing
Speaker 11: and they had him prepared for that, Dylan even showing
Speaker 11: how to sneak the knees in. You know, hy does
Speaker 11: a great job with the pants. She's got some good
Speaker 11: people around him now. So I think we're ready to
Speaker 11: roll and I'm excited. Yeah, good week, John. I wish
Speaker 11: you were there.
Speaker 4: Well, no, I mean I was hoping.
Speaker 8: I didn't leave anybody out either.
Speaker 4: Know, you left a bunch of people out as usual,
Speaker 4: and you know, nobody Butcher's Name's worse than you other
Speaker 4: than well Buffer. So we were at dinner. We were
Speaker 4: at dinner. I know, I'm just Kenny, and we were
Speaker 4: at dinner and I said to Bruce Buffer, I was like,
Speaker 4: you know when you sometimes try to play security in
Speaker 4: the octagon, right, and you are trying to get between
Speaker 4: fighters because maybe the security isn't as fleet a foot
Speaker 4: as buff right. I was like, do you ever hear
Speaker 4: me like give you a hard time about doing that
Speaker 4: on the broadcast after the fact, And He's like no,
Speaker 4: And I'm like, yeah, I don't think it would be
Speaker 4: good for our friendship if you heard what I said,
Speaker 4: no and now and now, if Raymond hadn't fucking coughed,
Speaker 4: I'm sure our fine team at all the smoke fight
Speaker 4: might have cut that up and put it on Buffer's radar.
Speaker 8: But thanks, holy shit, right before ruined the moment.
Speaker 4: No, not at all, But no, I seeing you smile
Speaker 4: that wide and having all those stars in the gym,
Speaker 4: especially gae Chee right after UFC Freedom two fifty and Dakota,
Speaker 4: I mean, no, I felt great you. You look to
Speaker 4: me like you were in your element and I'd love
Speaker 4: to see it. Of course, I know I joked about,
Speaker 4: but I love you good.
Speaker 11: Got to catch up with Conan too. I haven't talked
Speaker 11: to him in a while. He had some great stories.
Speaker 11: Con from back in the day. He had some really
Speaker 11: crazy wow.
Speaker 8: Yeah.
Speaker 7: Yeah.
Speaker 4: She always smells good. Yeah, he always smells good.
Speaker 8: Yeah.
Speaker 11: So but uh, anyway, but really really good good stuff.
Speaker 11: And I hope, uh, I hope the merger goes good.
Speaker 11: I hope these guys make some money. We'll see what happens.
Speaker 4: So was there anything else, excuse me, from UFC Serbia
Speaker 4: that you wanted to touch on at all. I don't
Speaker 4: know if you wanted to touch on Udo Schmititz or
Speaker 4: any of the other performances. It was a spectacular night.
Speaker 4: How about those two UFC records twelve finishes most in
Speaker 4: the modern era, ten first round finishes.
Speaker 11: I tell you, I really liked that girl fight where
Speaker 11: she hit her with a punch to the solar plexus.
Speaker 4: Yeah, we were gonna uh you know.
Speaker 11: And then she then she starts hitting her in the head.
Speaker 11: She sees that's not going anywhere, and she hits she
Speaker 11: goes as the has the smarts to go back to
Speaker 11: the body, ends to fight.
Speaker 8: I thought that was beautiful.
Speaker 4: I mean, right to the solar plex Yeah right, I
Speaker 4: missed that one.
Speaker 8: Oh, Kenny, you gotta look at it's pretty cool.
Speaker 4: Losevich one hundred thousand dollars performances in her UFC debut,
Speaker 4: and of all the Serbian fighters, I shouldn't say that,
Speaker 4: you know, I shouldn't make that. You know, there are
Speaker 4: other fighters I'm excited about. But in terms of that
Speaker 4: women's bandamweight division and Nina Milosovitch's potential to actually do
Speaker 4: some things, uh, it was a favorable matchup. You know,
Speaker 4: Haley Kallen has since retired, But dude, I mean this, this,
Speaker 4: this woman is ready for this division. She hit her
Speaker 4: right in the fucking solar plexus for one hundred j
Speaker 4: is fucking flattener.
Speaker 5: Bred basket twice twice.
Speaker 8: Yeah, wow, isn't that funny?
Speaker 11: How But but when she was bombing a to the head,
Speaker 11: that girl wasn't going anywhere.
Speaker 8: She just thought, let me just do one more, but
Speaker 8: that's it over. Yeah, I like it great.
Speaker 4: Did you see this Michael p q d Oliver Ea
Speaker 4: against o Van Elliott.
Speaker 11: I did see it, but I'm not really dead. Yeah,
Speaker 11: you know, the fights were on at a weird time,
Speaker 11: so I was trying to watch everything. But I think
Speaker 11: he looked very powerful.
Speaker 8: If I'm not.
Speaker 4: Mistake absolute fucking monster. Remember the name Michael p Q
Speaker 4: d Oliver, a former military paratrooper in Brazil. You can
Speaker 4: only do eight years. They're all one year service time.
Speaker 4: Did dude did fucking eight? He'll salute the hell out
Speaker 4: of you. And then you know, Oban had training camp
Speaker 4: of his life alongside Leon Edwards at Renegade Jiu Jitsu
Speaker 4: and sometimes there's nothing you can do.
Speaker 5: You know.
Speaker 4: I got to spend some time with Oban after the fact.
Speaker 4: You know, he goes from three and on his rookie
Speaker 4: year in the UFC to now three and three. He's
Speaker 4: worried his job might be on the line. Hopefully he
Speaker 4: gets one more. But dude, this Michael Olavera, I mean,
Speaker 4: absolute monster Ray anything else before we let you get
Speaker 4: on with the better part of your day.
Speaker 8: Oh, I think that's about it, all right. We wish
Speaker 8: you to see health.
Speaker 4: Thank you, buddy.
Speaker 8: Well how was the experience overall? Though?
Speaker 4: It was great? I mean we could go category by
Speaker 4: category if you wanted to ask me, like food, hospitality,
Speaker 4: and well, I mean, you know those suggesting that the
Speaker 4: UFC shouldn't go back to the Middle East because these
Speaker 4: events are so great. I mean, let me just tell you.
Speaker 4: The hospitality in Abu Dhabi is next level. So you know,
Speaker 4: I'm just a cup of ice in Serbia, you know,
Speaker 4: But no, it was We went to a get one restaurant,
Speaker 4: try Cicira, which was an amazing experience, and we got
Speaker 4: to see an amazing part of downtown Belgrade, and the
Speaker 4: fans treated us like royalty as they always do, and
Speaker 4: it was very festive and there was music in the
Speaker 4: restaurant and the food was fantastic. Oh you know, but yeah,
Speaker 4: I mean there's there are a lot of amazing places.
Speaker 4: This was a top five UFC Live event crowd for me,
Speaker 4: so Serbians deserve a lot of credit for that. And
Speaker 4: my prediction is that we'll be back there next year.
Speaker 4: Certainly we'll be back there, but I wouldn't be surprised
Speaker 4: if we are back there as soon as next year.
Speaker 4: Because of the extent to which this was a resounding success.
Speaker 8: Wow, he's he's jacked up today, boy, Nicotine pouches.
Speaker 4: I mean, my god, I put it into like that
Speaker 4: in seconds. I feel sharp as a guy.
Speaker 11: Damn, holy shit, I gotta try that today. This, this
Speaker 11: might finally convince me to.
Speaker 4: Well, nigotine is a perpetually misunderstood substance, so you know, uh,
Speaker 4: maybe that's what the Boston Red Sox are doing. I mean,
Speaker 4: my god, holy shit, Ray, all right, guess the funk
Speaker 4: out of here. Thank you, Ray, you're the man.
Speaker 8: You guys are the best. Take it easy, Thank.
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Speaker 4: to put a bow on the UFC fight night, I'm
Speaker 4: just going to sort of clean out a few thoughts.
Speaker 4: It's over thirty seconds if I could. So there's nothing
Speaker 4: like being able to make the calls when the masses
Speaker 4: get muted. It's cool to have udo schmetic win, but
Speaker 4: I think it's even more fun, right when Noah Gugnon
Speaker 4: goes in there and beats Milos Yani Chich right, Yani Chich,
Speaker 4: if you don't know, was the guy who got the
Speaker 4: biggest cheers all week long. First Montenegrin fighter to be
Speaker 4: in the UFC nineteen and three is an MMA pro
Speaker 4: three and zero, dirty boxing, a lot of skills, but
Speaker 4: this frenchman, Noah Gugnon, is an absolute animal, and those
Speaker 4: are very fun calls to make when you have the
Speaker 4: French fighter go in there, mute the masses, get on
Speaker 4: the octagon, you know, give you this shush emoji and
Speaker 4: everything else. So memorable night. Gilbert or Bina seven and
Speaker 4: five as an MMA fighter going into this fight, a
Speaker 4: lot of people thought maybe he was a lamp to slaughter,
Speaker 4: moving up from welterwait to middleweight to fight Velasto Cheppo,
Speaker 4: who was a guy around whom this car was maybe
Speaker 4: built a little bit. And Gilbert or Bina leaves with
Speaker 4: one hundred thousand dollars bonus. I wanted to congratulate him
Speaker 4: as well. And finally, Alexander Rockets, the man who probably
Speaker 4: mop as much time working with the Serbian MMA Federation
Speaker 4: as any to try to sort of heighten this live
Speaker 4: event and heighten things developmentally in Serbia. He beats marching
Speaker 4: Tabora thirty twenty seven in his UFC heavyweight debut, and
Speaker 4: Rockets hadn't won a fight since twenty twenty one. Really
Speaker 4: good guy, a lot of time away from his daughters,
Speaker 4: so we wanted to congratulate Alexander Rockitch. All right, UFC
Speaker 4: Apex this weekend, tough fact to follow, UFC Meta Apex.
Speaker 4: We got a couple of predictions for you folks today.
Speaker 4: Ken Flow has been on an absolute heater. I was
Speaker 4: gonna say absolute fucking heater, but I think I've scorn
Speaker 4: enough today Ken Flow has been on an absolute heater.
Speaker 4: We'll see how goes from UFC fight Night Gamrot versus
Speaker 4: sal Killed Lightweight Division. Carlos Diego Fajita minus one eighty
Speaker 4: five Billy Q Billy Corntello plus one fifty four eighteenth
Speaker 4: UFC Star for Diego Fajita. Kenny you know him well.
Speaker 4: He's ten and seven in the UFC. Billy Q. This
Speaker 4: will be his first appearance in nearly two years and
Speaker 4: his first fight at lightweight since twenty seventeen. Billy Q
Speaker 4: six and five in the UFC. He's lost two straight,
Speaker 4: three of his last four. Who do you like in
Speaker 4: the comain event yeah, first.
Speaker 6: And foremost, I think it's great that billy Q took
Speaker 6: that time off a little bit, let his body heal up,
Speaker 6: you know, maybe do a little reset, build some new skills,
Speaker 6: so we could see a billy Q that is completely transformed. However,
Speaker 6: once you get in there, your instincts could really take
Speaker 6: over there. And what are those instincts from billy Q?
Speaker 6: To just throw down and create chaos. That's what he
Speaker 6: does every time he's in there, and it's a blessing
Speaker 6: a curse. When you do that, it's exciting, but you
Speaker 6: open yourself up. And Jego Fajita is another guy that
Speaker 6: can be hot and cold. And if he is hot,
Speaker 6: not only could he win this fight, I think he
Speaker 6: could win this by finish either on the ground or
Speaker 6: on the feet. He does have a decent amount of
Speaker 6: power and'd like to see him throw more combinations in
Speaker 6: this fight. I think if he does that, he can win.
Speaker 6: But who knows, you know, billy Q being out for
Speaker 6: this long, he could you know, come back transformed. What
Speaker 6: I'm gonna lean the way of the Brazilian Diego fejeeda all.
Speaker 4: Right man event also at one hundred and fifty five
Speaker 4: pounds good one here Quillan Sal killed minus one forty two.
Speaker 4: Mattauje Gamrot, the four time UFC headliner, is plus one
Speaker 4: twenty Gambrock nine and four in the UFC, and he's
Speaker 4: coming off a great win Kenny over Esteban Ribevics. But
Speaker 4: he is not the story here. The story here is
Speaker 4: the twenty six year old Quillen Sal killed. He's won
Speaker 4: twelve in a row. He's five and zero in the UFC,
Speaker 4: four of those have been round one finishes. He looks
Speaker 4: the part. Some guys just have it, he appears to,
Speaker 4: and he asks for this very tough fight, which to
Speaker 4: me is very telling. Quillan Sal killed slightly the favorite
Speaker 4: minus one forty range on DraftKings Sports. Who do you
Speaker 4: like in the main event, cam.
Speaker 5: Flip, Well, be careful what you ask for.
Speaker 6: You know, not a whole lot of great wrestling over
Speaker 6: in Australia, but guys like Volkanovski and some others have
Speaker 6: proven that they can be very effective defensively. That's what
Speaker 6: this fight comes down to for me. Uh, it's the
Speaker 6: story is wrestling here. Can Gamrock go and initiate, uh,
Speaker 6: you know, the ground game? Can he get him down?
Speaker 6: Can Sel killed stop uh these takedowns. I think if
Speaker 6: he does that, then I think Quillen is going to
Speaker 6: win this fight and win it by finish.
Speaker 5: I think he's the superior striker for sure. Uh.
Speaker 6: He's got a knack for fighting that chin and finding
Speaker 6: the knockout. So Gamrot has.
Speaker 5: To be extremely careful here. But make no mistake about it.
Speaker 6: If Matoush is able to go in there and you
Speaker 6: know bully Sal killed a round, get the fight to
Speaker 6: the cage, get those takedowns repeatedly, hang on him and
Speaker 6: tire Sal killed out, he could be in trouble.
Speaker 5: And this is not a.
Speaker 6: Fight that Seal killed I think is used to, you
Speaker 6: know fight fighting a high level wrestler like Gamroth is
Speaker 6: going to be a true test, no question about it.
Speaker 6: So I think we're gonna find out a lot about
Speaker 6: just how good Quillan Seal killed is.
Speaker 7: Uh.
Speaker 5: Can he get it done yet? I think he can.
Speaker 5: But I'm gonna have to go with Gamrot here.
Speaker 6: Just because I haven't seen Sal killed against a great
Speaker 6: wrestler yet, so he'd bet he win this test.
Speaker 5: Hey, sky's the limit for this.
Speaker 8: Guy, all right?
Speaker 4: Ken Fold likes Matajj Gamrod he can be had plus
Speaker 4: one twenty right now, we'll see how it all plays
Speaker 4: out on Saturday night. We will update the results. Kenny's
Speaker 4: favorite segment over the last few weeks has been updating
Speaker 4: the results. Another week in the positive for ken Flow.
Speaker 4: Had a two leg parlay on Udo Schmititch and Mattaw's
Speaker 4: round Beski. He did take a flyer on Yambohovich as
Speaker 4: the underdog, but plus one hundred and eighty eight dollars
Speaker 4: in change for ken Flow. He's almost a plus twenty
Speaker 4: five hundred on the year. You'd be wise to tail him,
Speaker 4: and he's got one thousand dollars to spend. UFC Fight
Speaker 4: Night Gamrot versus Seal killed Ken Flow take it away.
Speaker 6: Yeah, well, so I'm gonna take that thousand and place
Speaker 6: it on one fighter yet again. I'm gonna put it
Speaker 6: on Diego Fajeda here against Billy Q, and uh see
Speaker 6: if we can raise that up a little bit.
Speaker 4: All right, nicely done, Ken Flow, Diego Fajita minus one
Speaker 4: eighty five or so right now, one thousand dollars for
Speaker 4: Team Florian. All right, now it's time for my favorite
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Speaker 4: On the podcast, Gilbert dureno Burns, Is that an autograph
Speaker 4: or not? It is not twenty twenty one Penie select
Speaker 4: UFC Octagon Action signatures.
Speaker 5: It is Oh here, it is.
Speaker 4: Gilbert Burns Auto mint PSA nine. You can throw that
Speaker 4: in my online vault because we're gonna keep that Gilbert
Speaker 4: doereno Burns card. I might even give it to him
Speaker 4: the next time I see him. He was there with
Speaker 4: his youngest child and his wife there in Belgrade, Serbia.
Speaker 5: Nice.
Speaker 4: And then we get the Gilbert Burns auto. We told
Speaker 4: him actually in person, well not not we. I told
Speaker 4: him in person that we'd love to celebrate his career
Speaker 4: here on the antican Floring podcast here in the next
Speaker 4: couple weeks. So we will. We'll present him with that
Speaker 4: card after the fact. And I get one more card today,
Speaker 4: which we're very excited about. We're very excited out of
Speaker 4: the blue corner today in our repacks, John Anick, and
Speaker 4: let's just see. You know what was my buyback anyway
Speaker 4: on that, Gilbertarino burns. I didn't even look at it
Speaker 4: because we need the book. You wanted it, the book.
Speaker 4: Ninety one dollars, all right, thanks, Code Blue, Second Draw
Speaker 4: the Day PSA ten. And would you look at that?
Speaker 4: Billy corn Tello twenty twenty two, Panini Prism Goal Prism
Speaker 4: PSA ten. The buyback? What are they offering me? Sixty
Speaker 4: four dollars ninety percent buy back? You know, part of me,
Speaker 4: because Billy C is a good guy, Cody's telling me
Speaker 4: I gotta sell because Kenny faded him. Part of me
Speaker 4: feels like I should get it for him and give
Speaker 4: it to him. But Cody's the boss, so we will.
Speaker 7: Billy Q is a good guy, it's a great guy.
Speaker 4: You can sell it. You can sell it, all right.
Speaker 4: It's a ten and a rookie card. Nate said, sorry, Date,
Speaker 4: we can't go back on that decision. I was just
Speaker 4: following Cody's lead. Sorry. The thing about me presenting it
Speaker 4: to Billy Q is basically I got to have it
Speaker 4: with me for the rest of my fucking life and
Speaker 4: hope that I run into the guy. You know what
Speaker 4: I mean. I'm not going to be there in Vegas
Speaker 4: this weekend. You know, I suppose I could sell it
Speaker 4: to him the gratings, send it to him, not sell
Speaker 4: to him, the gratings going down as it gets bent
Speaker 4: around in that sweaty pocket of years.
Speaker 12: All right, yeah right, Bill, Yeah, car Bro ten years
Speaker 12: looks like a napkin.
Speaker 5: For Pete's sake?
Speaker 4: What do we got?
Speaker 5: Am I up?
Speaker 4: Do I get to pick? Telling me Kenny has a
Speaker 4: seven hundred and forty five dollars cash balance, because unlike me,
Speaker 4: he doesn't go in there and buy baseball cards that
Speaker 4: aren't good. All right, so we'll transition to Kenny Florian's account,
Speaker 4: and the only thing that Kenny hasn't hit on this
Speaker 4: is a holy grail. You've had some decent draws, but
Speaker 4: not a holy grail.
Speaker 5: We got here, Uh, Caitlyn Kegian.
Speaker 4: Select you have see number seventeen, Caitlyn Chukegi in gold
Speaker 4: Prison PSA nine. They're offering you thirty two dollars on
Speaker 4: the buy back. I mean, I would probably sell it
Speaker 4: unless you're gonna run into Kitlyn.
Speaker 5: I'm gonna sell it unless you want to.
Speaker 4: Put in your pocket for the rest of your fucking life.
Speaker 5: Yeah, your cell phone, it's you.
Speaker 4: Guys, seen it. I got a card for you. Got
Speaker 4: your cell phone in your right pocket, you fucking keys
Speaker 4: and your two days your left pocket for the rest
Speaker 4: of your life.
Speaker 12: It's all banged up. What do we got the next one?
Speaker 12: Oh man, Billy Q. Stuff though, is a little a
Speaker 12: little interesting, right.
Speaker 7: All right? Oh yeah, all right, come on, okay.
Speaker 4: All right, twenty twenty five tops Chrome Sapphire UFC Rydan
Speaker 4: your deritter PSA nine. I don't believe that's a rookie card.
Speaker 4: I think he made his UFC debut in twenty twenty four,
Speaker 4: but I could be wrong. They're offering you twenty seven dollars,
Speaker 4: so that does not suggest that it's a great card.
Speaker 5: Kenny, Right, Yeah, I'm gonna sell that.
Speaker 8: Yeah.
Speaker 4: You gotta sell her back. You gotta sell it, Bession.
Speaker 4: Not a great day for Ken Flow. We're happy to
Speaker 4: get the Gilbert Buriant Burns Durino autograph there, and we
Speaker 4: thank all of you. Thank you for subscribing to The
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Speaker 4: You can also check out Ken Flows YouTube channel as well,
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Speaker 4: I'm doing and ask me anything in advance of UFC
Speaker 4: Fight Night, gamra versus Sell Kill later this week. So
Speaker 4: thanks everybody. Thanks to Nate Bronson and our live producer
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Speaker 4: Jason Aik, everybody else, Mike Jones, and we'll be back
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