1 00:00:03,600 --> 00:00:06,760 Speaker 1: Reality with the King is hosted by me, Carlos King. 2 00:00:07,080 --> 00:00:10,239 Speaker 1: I'm an executive producer who have produced some of your 3 00:00:10,240 --> 00:00:13,560 Speaker 1: favorite shows from the Real Housewives in Atlanta, New Jersey 4 00:00:13,920 --> 00:00:17,360 Speaker 1: and my own creation, The Love and Marriage Franchise and 5 00:00:17,520 --> 00:00:23,040 Speaker 1: Bell Collective. Every episode we recap reality television from the 6 00:00:23,079 --> 00:00:27,680 Speaker 1: Real Housewives Franchise to The Bachelor or Selling Sunset, in 7 00:00:27,720 --> 00:00:31,680 Speaker 1: addition to celebrity guests, whether in the unscripted space or 8 00:00:31,720 --> 00:00:38,599 Speaker 1: scripted as well as we're talking about Bad Bunny and 9 00:00:38,680 --> 00:00:43,000 Speaker 1: how all of us adored his performance, unfortunately the working 10 00:00:43,159 --> 00:00:47,159 Speaker 1: people who did not like it. And the first person 11 00:00:47,800 --> 00:00:52,560 Speaker 1: who I want to bring up is former Real Housewives 12 00:00:52,560 --> 00:00:58,880 Speaker 1: of New York City star Jill's Darren, who recently announced 13 00:00:58,960 --> 00:01:06,480 Speaker 1: last week that she, along with Ramona, singer, Luanne Sonya, 14 00:01:06,760 --> 00:01:09,840 Speaker 1: Kelly ben Simone, they're doing a new show for E 15 00:01:10,200 --> 00:01:13,760 Speaker 1: not for Bravo, but for the sister network E called 16 00:01:13,800 --> 00:01:15,880 Speaker 1: pretty Much. I think it's called like the Golden Years, 17 00:01:16,680 --> 00:01:20,560 Speaker 1: where they're following these former New York City housewives as 18 00:01:20,800 --> 00:01:26,080 Speaker 1: they live in Palm Beach, Florida. So Jill Zaren went 19 00:01:26,160 --> 00:01:31,560 Speaker 1: on Instagram after Bad Bunny performed and said that she 20 00:01:32,280 --> 00:01:35,640 Speaker 1: did not like the performance, she wondered where all the 21 00:01:35,680 --> 00:01:41,360 Speaker 1: white people were. She was saying that it was a 22 00:01:41,400 --> 00:01:45,200 Speaker 1: political statement. She made some very disturbing comments. I want 23 00:01:45,200 --> 00:01:47,680 Speaker 1: to hear from you guys. What I will say about 24 00:01:48,160 --> 00:01:53,280 Speaker 1: I'll start by saying this. Listen, what Jill said to 25 00:01:53,360 --> 00:01:56,240 Speaker 1: me was disgusting. 26 00:01:56,680 --> 00:02:03,000 Speaker 2: It was abhorrent, it was demeaning. You have this man 27 00:02:03,120 --> 00:02:03,919 Speaker 2: who is. 28 00:02:04,080 --> 00:02:08,760 Speaker 1: Honoring his culture, and he's doing it on the main stage, 29 00:02:09,120 --> 00:02:12,800 Speaker 1: and instead of looking at the world you live in, right, 30 00:02:13,680 --> 00:02:21,400 Speaker 1: you can't even for fourteen minutes celebrate a man who 31 00:02:21,800 --> 00:02:28,160 Speaker 1: is honoring his culture, who's honoring them, who's making statements 32 00:02:28,200 --> 00:02:31,240 Speaker 1: based on his experience, And. 33 00:02:30,919 --> 00:02:33,960 Speaker 2: For you to live in your privileged. 34 00:02:33,440 --> 00:02:38,280 Speaker 1: Palace Upalm Beach and you're wondering where all the white 35 00:02:38,280 --> 00:02:42,600 Speaker 1: people are. Imagine what it feels like to be a 36 00:02:42,680 --> 00:02:44,880 Speaker 1: minority in America. 37 00:02:44,919 --> 00:02:48,320 Speaker 2: We wonder where all the black people are? Are the 38 00:02:48,639 --> 00:02:52,079 Speaker 2: brown people, Hispanic agent, all all. 39 00:02:51,960 --> 00:02:56,440 Speaker 1: The races, and what you experience in fourteen minutes, we 40 00:02:56,639 --> 00:02:59,639 Speaker 1: experience every day of our lives. I've experienced being on 41 00:02:59,720 --> 00:03:03,519 Speaker 1: you black person working for a franchise that made you famous. Okay, 42 00:03:04,440 --> 00:03:07,760 Speaker 1: So the fact that you would take your privilege and 43 00:03:07,840 --> 00:03:12,440 Speaker 1: not only did you decide to record it on your iPhone. 44 00:03:12,919 --> 00:03:17,640 Speaker 1: You even had the audacity, at your old age to say, 45 00:03:18,040 --> 00:03:22,960 Speaker 1: my daughter told me to not post this to get 46 00:03:22,960 --> 00:03:26,400 Speaker 1: off the phone because I may get canceled. Y'all tried 47 00:03:26,440 --> 00:03:31,560 Speaker 1: to cancel me before, did it. Your ignorance is disgusting 48 00:03:31,639 --> 00:03:34,400 Speaker 1: to watch. You don't have to worry about the world 49 00:03:34,440 --> 00:03:36,960 Speaker 1: canceling you. 50 00:03:36,960 --> 00:03:38,720 Speaker 2: You need to be more concerned about. 51 00:03:38,440 --> 00:03:41,240 Speaker 1: Whether or not people are going to a tune in 52 00:03:41,320 --> 00:03:43,720 Speaker 1: to this new show you have, or be if you're 53 00:03:43,720 --> 00:03:46,560 Speaker 1: going to be on this show. At this point, I'm 54 00:03:46,600 --> 00:03:52,800 Speaker 1: so sick and tired of people being so public with 55 00:03:53,120 --> 00:03:58,920 Speaker 1: their disdain for anybody who doesn't look like them, and 56 00:03:59,000 --> 00:04:03,600 Speaker 1: for you, at your old age to say something with 57 00:04:03,720 --> 00:04:07,680 Speaker 1: your platform that is so demeaning to the very people 58 00:04:07,680 --> 00:04:08,720 Speaker 1: who work on your show. 59 00:04:09,080 --> 00:04:10,200 Speaker 2: I would love to talk. 60 00:04:10,080 --> 00:04:15,080 Speaker 1: To Ebney k Williams, Hello Black on The Real Housewives 61 00:04:15,120 --> 00:04:17,680 Speaker 1: of New York City. Imagine how she felt being the 62 00:04:17,720 --> 00:04:20,960 Speaker 1: only one not for fourteen minutes of you watching it 63 00:04:20,960 --> 00:04:24,400 Speaker 1: through your fucking TV screen. Imagine her living that life 64 00:04:24,440 --> 00:04:28,360 Speaker 1: every day for three months of filming, dealing with micro aggressions. 65 00:04:28,680 --> 00:04:32,400 Speaker 1: I had to my own podcast apologize to Emney K 66 00:04:32,560 --> 00:04:37,360 Speaker 1: Williams for looking at this show for entertainment and allowing 67 00:04:37,400 --> 00:04:39,560 Speaker 1: her to tell me by her experience and being like, 68 00:04:40,160 --> 00:04:44,440 Speaker 1: oh my god, I have this all wrong. And I 69 00:04:44,680 --> 00:04:48,520 Speaker 1: publicly apologized to Ebney K. Williams as she was the 70 00:04:48,600 --> 00:04:52,200 Speaker 1: first guest on this very podcast that is watched by 71 00:04:52,400 --> 00:04:55,919 Speaker 1: and listen to by white people. Blue said to me 72 00:04:56,400 --> 00:04:59,440 Speaker 1: last year, Carlos, I haven't had so many white people 73 00:04:59,560 --> 00:05:01,720 Speaker 1: hit me up saying I heard you in Reality with 74 00:05:01,800 --> 00:05:02,320 Speaker 1: the King. 75 00:05:02,440 --> 00:05:06,360 Speaker 2: The white folks, Carlos, Right. So the thing is, we 76 00:05:06,440 --> 00:05:08,839 Speaker 2: live in a world where we try our best to 77 00:05:08,880 --> 00:05:13,200 Speaker 2: be inclusive, and what you did, Jill Zaren, was. 78 00:05:13,160 --> 00:05:18,039 Speaker 1: So divisive, and I followed you today, okay because of 79 00:05:18,040 --> 00:05:22,880 Speaker 1: your ignorant ass statement and and you will not get 80 00:05:23,360 --> 00:05:26,840 Speaker 1: any viewership from me on your new show. I'm I'm 81 00:05:27,000 --> 00:05:32,760 Speaker 1: done trying to pacify you ignorant people who feel so 82 00:05:34,560 --> 00:05:39,440 Speaker 1: proud to say something so blatantly racist. 83 00:05:40,200 --> 00:05:42,000 Speaker 2: Where are all the white people? 84 00:05:42,880 --> 00:05:42,920 Speaker 3: Was? 85 00:05:43,400 --> 00:05:45,080 Speaker 2: Was? What was it for me? 86 00:05:45,839 --> 00:05:50,719 Speaker 1: And because of that, Jill Zaren, you have there's nothing 87 00:05:50,760 --> 00:05:51,279 Speaker 1: I'm giving you. 88 00:05:53,600 --> 00:05:54,600 Speaker 2: Doesn't ross. 89 00:05:54,960 --> 00:05:55,760 Speaker 4: Yeah. 90 00:05:55,839 --> 00:05:59,520 Speaker 5: Well, yeah, first of all, I go and agree with 91 00:05:59,600 --> 00:06:02,960 Speaker 5: every single sentiment you just share with us, Carlos and 92 00:06:03,080 --> 00:06:06,480 Speaker 5: thank you. With a platform as large as yours, Carlos, 93 00:06:06,520 --> 00:06:09,920 Speaker 5: and as influential as yours, thank you for speaking directly 94 00:06:09,960 --> 00:06:11,919 Speaker 5: to that, because that's not something that a lot of 95 00:06:11,960 --> 00:06:14,359 Speaker 5: people are willing to do. They don't want to piss 96 00:06:14,400 --> 00:06:18,120 Speaker 5: their audience off or risk people having a problem with 97 00:06:18,320 --> 00:06:21,039 Speaker 5: what they said. But much like the real motherfucker that 98 00:06:21,080 --> 00:06:22,960 Speaker 5: I know you are, you just stood in that. 99 00:06:23,120 --> 00:06:24,280 Speaker 4: So thank you, Carlos. 100 00:06:24,400 --> 00:06:28,760 Speaker 5: Yeah for me, first of all, Jill's Aaron what you did, 101 00:06:28,839 --> 00:06:31,520 Speaker 5: and sharing your opinions on what she did. I'm not 102 00:06:31,680 --> 00:06:33,640 Speaker 5: like I'm talking to our ass because I would never 103 00:06:33,720 --> 00:06:37,279 Speaker 5: share space with her what she did when she shared 104 00:06:37,279 --> 00:06:41,599 Speaker 5: her opinions on Bad Bunnies incredible halftime show by saying 105 00:06:41,680 --> 00:06:42,880 Speaker 5: where are all the white people? 106 00:06:42,920 --> 00:06:45,839 Speaker 4: Those things are called dog whistles? Right, she can. 107 00:06:45,800 --> 00:06:48,400 Speaker 5: Pad it in the front with a statement like, oh, 108 00:06:48,600 --> 00:06:50,680 Speaker 5: you know whatever it is it is, but I just 109 00:06:50,720 --> 00:06:53,279 Speaker 5: wear all the white people, girl, right in front of 110 00:06:53,279 --> 00:06:55,760 Speaker 5: your face. You said where all the white people? She said, 111 00:06:55,920 --> 00:06:58,360 Speaker 5: rather where all the white people? But then went on 112 00:06:58,440 --> 00:07:01,840 Speaker 5: to make some negative, nasty ass comments about lady God 113 00:07:01,839 --> 00:07:04,479 Speaker 5: got a woman who's actually better looking than Jill's eron 114 00:07:04,800 --> 00:07:06,720 Speaker 5: Jill's Aaron looks like the chromagnum. 115 00:07:07,080 --> 00:07:08,520 Speaker 4: She looks like evolution. 116 00:07:09,080 --> 00:07:11,320 Speaker 5: You know when they show the apes turning into humans 117 00:07:11,360 --> 00:07:13,160 Speaker 5: and shit, that's what Jill's Aaron looks like. 118 00:07:13,320 --> 00:07:13,360 Speaker 4: Like. 119 00:07:13,440 --> 00:07:17,080 Speaker 5: She literally just got through doing like this, you know 120 00:07:17,160 --> 00:07:20,200 Speaker 5: what I'm saying, like them evolution pictures. She got the 121 00:07:20,400 --> 00:07:23,000 Speaker 5: gall She got the gall to open her mouth. First 122 00:07:23,040 --> 00:07:27,200 Speaker 5: of all, we're not watching that mothball, liniment smelling ass 123 00:07:27,280 --> 00:07:30,640 Speaker 5: show with them old ass Karens, which is what her 124 00:07:30,680 --> 00:07:32,920 Speaker 5: and Ramona are, and I'm gonna leave it on them 125 00:07:33,000 --> 00:07:35,520 Speaker 5: for now, but that's what those two are. We're not 126 00:07:35,680 --> 00:07:39,080 Speaker 5: interested in watching them drink vodka and be irresponsible as 127 00:07:39,200 --> 00:07:42,520 Speaker 5: old ass women. It's not interesting for me, especially when 128 00:07:42,560 --> 00:07:46,040 Speaker 5: we know the filthy, disgusting history of their statements, views, 129 00:07:46,400 --> 00:07:49,160 Speaker 5: and as you can see, Jills Aaron a person who 130 00:07:49,240 --> 00:07:52,920 Speaker 5: could not resist the personal urge to share her feelings. 131 00:07:53,320 --> 00:07:56,640 Speaker 5: She's not even mature enough to resist the urge to pressent. 132 00:07:57,160 --> 00:07:59,680 Speaker 5: She got on the internet last night to do all 133 00:07:59,720 --> 00:08:03,400 Speaker 5: of that because she's feeling herself. He's feeling herself because 134 00:08:03,400 --> 00:08:06,360 Speaker 5: they got that television show deal on E, which the 135 00:08:06,440 --> 00:08:08,800 Speaker 5: show couldnot be at a more fitting network because the 136 00:08:08,880 --> 00:08:11,440 Speaker 5: letter E is a failing grade and the show is 137 00:08:11,480 --> 00:08:13,640 Speaker 5: gonna fail, so it makes sense that that's where the 138 00:08:13,680 --> 00:08:16,960 Speaker 5: show lives, right. I'm not interested in her. She looked 139 00:08:17,000 --> 00:08:19,560 Speaker 5: like she smelled like white diamonds and Eastside peace. I'm 140 00:08:19,600 --> 00:08:22,520 Speaker 5: not interested. I don't care nothing about what she's doing. 141 00:08:22,600 --> 00:08:26,360 Speaker 5: I hope her golf cart crashes into a quarry rock 142 00:08:26,520 --> 00:08:32,160 Speaker 5: wall and falls over in racist as ran DeSantis ass Florida, 143 00:08:32,520 --> 00:08:36,719 Speaker 5: where they and how fitting the racist women who were 144 00:08:37,080 --> 00:08:40,040 Speaker 5: removed and released from employment with Bravo because of their 145 00:08:40,120 --> 00:08:43,480 Speaker 5: racist ass views are now feeling the show in Florida. 146 00:08:44,760 --> 00:08:47,280 Speaker 4: I mean, you can't really, it is what it is. 147 00:08:47,400 --> 00:08:51,880 Speaker 5: So fuck Jill's Aaron, Okay, she's a horrible looking woman her. 148 00:08:52,000 --> 00:08:54,760 Speaker 5: She looked disheveled and as if she had literally rolled 149 00:08:54,880 --> 00:08:56,800 Speaker 5: on the ground to lean up on the couch to 150 00:08:56,880 --> 00:09:00,920 Speaker 5: make the video. She's a bum, she's a vagab We're 151 00:09:00,960 --> 00:09:04,319 Speaker 5: not interested in anything she has to say. And I 152 00:09:04,480 --> 00:09:07,880 Speaker 5: hope that she just goes away again because they already 153 00:09:07,960 --> 00:09:09,120 Speaker 5: released her the first time. 154 00:09:09,520 --> 00:09:15,560 Speaker 4: That's all I got to say, Blue Mind, Well. 155 00:09:15,440 --> 00:09:17,040 Speaker 6: I was gonna try to be nice, but let's just 156 00:09:17,120 --> 00:09:17,560 Speaker 6: tell the truth. 157 00:09:17,760 --> 00:09:18,520 Speaker 1: I heard. 158 00:09:20,679 --> 00:09:24,040 Speaker 6: Both of you touched on this certain Housewives, particularly the 159 00:09:24,320 --> 00:09:25,120 Speaker 6: ones in New York. 160 00:09:26,280 --> 00:09:33,280 Speaker 7: The Jills, the Ramona, Derenda have a history of being 161 00:09:33,440 --> 00:09:35,640 Speaker 7: very before Maga was Maga, they were Maga and the 162 00:09:35,679 --> 00:09:38,480 Speaker 7: way that they move right, and I've always felt so 163 00:09:39,280 --> 00:09:42,079 Speaker 7: disgusted by what they did to Ebony. So I will 164 00:09:42,120 --> 00:09:43,599 Speaker 7: say that there's a little bit of extra salt in 165 00:09:43,679 --> 00:09:45,480 Speaker 7: that too, because I'm like, you know, that's a person 166 00:09:45,559 --> 00:09:49,280 Speaker 7: still right, like she's not the person. Yeah, I remember, Carlos, 167 00:09:49,360 --> 00:09:50,800 Speaker 7: you just reminded me of something the way you were 168 00:09:50,840 --> 00:09:53,520 Speaker 7: talking about Jills, exactly the way that Ron was talking 169 00:09:53,600 --> 00:09:56,920 Speaker 7: to Derinda and Traders. And he would later go on 170 00:09:57,040 --> 00:10:00,240 Speaker 7: threads and said, if you guys heard the nasty things 171 00:10:00,280 --> 00:10:03,360 Speaker 7: she said to me that they never aired, it wouldn't 172 00:10:03,360 --> 00:10:04,920 Speaker 7: suddenly look like I was just mad at her for 173 00:10:05,040 --> 00:10:08,559 Speaker 7: no reason. I feel like we accidentally just threw Ron 174 00:10:08,600 --> 00:10:11,720 Speaker 7: some bail right now too. He said, if you heard 175 00:10:11,760 --> 00:10:13,800 Speaker 7: what I was responding to when I came at her 176 00:10:13,920 --> 00:10:15,920 Speaker 7: like that, it wouldn't look like I just suddenly was 177 00:10:16,000 --> 00:10:19,280 Speaker 7: just going off on her. And so, knowing that Derinda 178 00:10:19,480 --> 00:10:22,920 Speaker 7: and Ramona and Jill are of the same, imagine the 179 00:10:23,000 --> 00:10:24,599 Speaker 7: violence that he had to deal with that he just 180 00:10:24,679 --> 00:10:27,640 Speaker 7: kept inside to get along and was still voted out 181 00:10:27,679 --> 00:10:29,559 Speaker 7: and still showed grace on the way out. And so 182 00:10:29,679 --> 00:10:32,199 Speaker 7: there's a level of grace that black and brown people 183 00:10:32,720 --> 00:10:34,760 Speaker 7: have shown for centuries. 184 00:10:35,240 --> 00:10:39,000 Speaker 6: We tied, we tired. Nobody wants to watch Golden Girls 185 00:10:39,040 --> 00:10:42,559 Speaker 6: on E not a backwash edition. Anybody checked for that right. 186 00:10:42,920 --> 00:10:47,120 Speaker 7: Blanche would never, Okay, Lebanese Okay, Blanche would never. 187 00:10:47,520 --> 00:10:51,079 Speaker 6: And so I'm disgusted and also relieved. 188 00:10:51,520 --> 00:10:55,520 Speaker 7: I love it when the trash takes itself out, when 189 00:10:55,559 --> 00:10:56,880 Speaker 7: people revealed themselves. 190 00:10:56,960 --> 00:11:01,120 Speaker 6: Thank you, Jill, keep talking, okay, because the irony. 191 00:11:00,880 --> 00:11:03,319 Speaker 7: Is doesn't just compare you to the third monkey on 192 00:11:03,440 --> 00:11:06,560 Speaker 7: the scale of evolution, and y'all keep calling us that name, 193 00:11:06,640 --> 00:11:08,160 Speaker 7: but if you look at the pictures. 194 00:11:09,080 --> 00:11:10,560 Speaker 4: Then lived motherfucker. 195 00:11:13,240 --> 00:11:13,440 Speaker 2: Yes. 196 00:11:13,920 --> 00:11:18,079 Speaker 7: Also to Jill is he's fragile, right, because white supremacy 197 00:11:18,280 --> 00:11:22,040 Speaker 7: is based on fragility. They get very fragile when they 198 00:11:22,080 --> 00:11:24,679 Speaker 7: are not centered. They don't know how to hold space 199 00:11:24,760 --> 00:11:26,720 Speaker 7: for others. I want to, as an immigrant and as 200 00:11:26,760 --> 00:11:29,480 Speaker 7: an Afrolatina, I want to give a epic thank you 201 00:11:30,120 --> 00:11:33,320 Speaker 7: to the Black American community, which doesn't get enough thanks. 202 00:11:34,240 --> 00:11:37,360 Speaker 7: The way y'all showed up for Latin Americans and Caribbeans 203 00:11:37,440 --> 00:11:40,439 Speaker 7: yesterday when we were having that epic moment, shows that 204 00:11:40,559 --> 00:11:43,360 Speaker 7: there's a grace that African American people always have for 205 00:11:43,480 --> 00:11:45,600 Speaker 7: other people that they rarely get in return. 206 00:11:46,800 --> 00:11:49,360 Speaker 6: Right, they rarely get it in return, but they're the first. 207 00:11:49,200 --> 00:11:51,280 Speaker 7: Ones to be ts part of recon. Everybody was part 208 00:11:51,320 --> 00:11:55,440 Speaker 7: of recan yesterday, right right shat to ts Madison, there's 209 00:11:55,440 --> 00:11:59,120 Speaker 7: a joy that Black Americans have. There's a joy for 210 00:11:59,280 --> 00:12:01,840 Speaker 7: me as somebody who is a Black American but also 211 00:12:02,040 --> 00:12:04,920 Speaker 7: Latin American, see the black and brown community come together 212 00:12:05,080 --> 00:12:08,240 Speaker 7: like that. What really triggered her because she was like, 213 00:12:08,520 --> 00:12:11,000 Speaker 7: if they realized that they have more in common than 214 00:12:11,040 --> 00:12:13,600 Speaker 7: a part, they might realize that we're the shared enemy 215 00:12:13,880 --> 00:12:16,439 Speaker 7: and suddenly they're gonna come for us and the things 216 00:12:16,480 --> 00:12:18,079 Speaker 7: that we didn't even earn but stolen said it was 217 00:12:18,120 --> 00:12:20,719 Speaker 7: ours to begin with. Right, So white supremacy in this 218 00:12:20,760 --> 00:12:23,400 Speaker 7: fragility doesn't ever surprise me. Jill, I'm so happy you 219 00:12:23,480 --> 00:12:24,880 Speaker 7: canceled your show before it aired. 220 00:12:25,559 --> 00:12:26,480 Speaker 2: Who was really. 221 00:12:26,280 --> 00:12:28,760 Speaker 7: Sponsoring this geriital like it was it was all a 222 00:12:28,800 --> 00:12:31,600 Speaker 7: bad idea. Okay, let's just not and say we did 223 00:12:32,000 --> 00:12:32,800 Speaker 7: keep talking home. 224 00:12:33,400 --> 00:12:36,600 Speaker 6: That's what I gotta say, all Right, go ahead, Claudia Jordan. 225 00:12:38,440 --> 00:12:43,720 Speaker 3: I have to quote a black queen, Miss USA nineteen 226 00:12:43,920 --> 00:12:46,959 Speaker 3: ninety three. When I saw her, Who is this? 227 00:12:48,720 --> 00:12:52,280 Speaker 4: I've media? 228 00:12:53,000 --> 00:12:56,199 Speaker 3: I don't know again, another white woman that has to 229 00:12:56,280 --> 00:12:58,640 Speaker 3: be white centered, and when you're not, you're freaking out. 230 00:12:58,679 --> 00:13:02,520 Speaker 3: The real issue was this, as you sat there looking 231 00:13:02,640 --> 00:13:05,960 Speaker 3: like you are aging like organic bananas in the hot 232 00:13:06,080 --> 00:13:10,599 Speaker 3: Arizona or Floridian sun, you're angry. Every single woman and 233 00:13:10,840 --> 00:13:15,440 Speaker 3: man in bad Bunnies routine with gorgeous with black with brown, 234 00:13:15,600 --> 00:13:20,640 Speaker 3: had afros, had wavy hair, had full lips, hipped, little waists, 235 00:13:21,360 --> 00:13:23,559 Speaker 3: all the things you can never have as you sit 236 00:13:23,640 --> 00:13:27,199 Speaker 3: there in your place, are privileged with with hair that's 237 00:13:27,280 --> 00:13:29,760 Speaker 3: closer to the monkey species. It's more like fur. That's 238 00:13:29,800 --> 00:13:32,199 Speaker 3: why you get light and we don't. You have a 239 00:13:32,440 --> 00:13:34,920 Speaker 3: spots on your chest because you're allergic to the sun, 240 00:13:35,160 --> 00:13:38,000 Speaker 3: because you're a little bit partan animal DNA, you're not 241 00:13:38,080 --> 00:13:40,120 Speaker 3: all the way human. You can look at. Black people 242 00:13:40,160 --> 00:13:41,800 Speaker 3: are the only people on earth that do not have 243 00:13:41,920 --> 00:13:45,240 Speaker 3: any traces of animal DNA in their DNA. Let's talk 244 00:13:45,320 --> 00:13:49,880 Speaker 3: about you're not flexible, you have osteoporosis, your lacks are tolerant, 245 00:13:50,080 --> 00:13:53,640 Speaker 3: you have brittle, weaker bones than black people. We have stronger, 246 00:13:54,000 --> 00:13:58,680 Speaker 3: healthier like just athletic bones. We have fast switch muscles, 247 00:13:58,720 --> 00:14:00,679 Speaker 3: black and brown. You have none of the things you 248 00:14:00,840 --> 00:14:03,200 Speaker 3: eat raw meat. You like your meat with the heart 249 00:14:03,240 --> 00:14:07,360 Speaker 3: beat and a pulse again, aging like organic bananas in 250 00:14:07,400 --> 00:14:09,360 Speaker 3: the sun. You're angry at these people. We are people 251 00:14:09,400 --> 00:14:12,360 Speaker 3: of the sun. The sun loves us. The sun loves 252 00:14:12,679 --> 00:14:16,480 Speaker 3: the things that's supposed to be here are embrace the sun. 253 00:14:17,120 --> 00:14:19,200 Speaker 3: You are a she devil on a show. I've never 254 00:14:19,240 --> 00:14:21,120 Speaker 3: even seen you on television. Today is my first day 255 00:14:21,200 --> 00:14:24,200 Speaker 3: seeing you, and I'm like, who this customer service ass 256 00:14:24,280 --> 00:14:26,520 Speaker 3: bitch talking about the Super Bowl show? Why she got 257 00:14:26,560 --> 00:14:28,680 Speaker 3: a platform? I looked you up and lo and behold, 258 00:14:28,720 --> 00:14:31,520 Speaker 3: she was part of a franchise that are Wow, didn't 259 00:14:31,560 --> 00:14:35,560 Speaker 3: know that, and you're someone married you but you know, hey, 260 00:14:37,520 --> 00:14:40,240 Speaker 3: oh just someone for everyone anyway, it's Jill's or whatever 261 00:14:40,280 --> 00:14:42,560 Speaker 3: your name is. Your show looks like it's gonna be 262 00:14:42,600 --> 00:14:44,760 Speaker 3: boring as fuck. No one wants to see it. We've tried. 263 00:14:44,800 --> 00:14:46,600 Speaker 3: We've seen it before in other franchise when they put 264 00:14:46,680 --> 00:14:49,360 Speaker 3: boring ass white women together with no flavor and who 265 00:14:49,400 --> 00:14:52,600 Speaker 3: have who can't stand black people? Most likely you're just 266 00:14:52,680 --> 00:14:55,960 Speaker 3: a miserable old bitch, an old and I look forward 267 00:14:55,960 --> 00:14:59,200 Speaker 3: to the day your show gets canceled. It looks like 268 00:14:59,280 --> 00:15:01,680 Speaker 3: you've canceled, like said, before it even started, So bitch, 269 00:15:01,840 --> 00:15:03,080 Speaker 3: fuck you. How about that? 270 00:15:05,280 --> 00:15:08,040 Speaker 2: This is reality with the King and I'm Carlos King. 271 00:15:08,560 --> 00:15:10,320 Speaker 4: Let's get back into the show. 272 00:15:11,920 --> 00:15:14,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, And then what I want to end on is 273 00:15:14,840 --> 00:15:21,320 Speaker 1: also Taylor Armstrong formerly The Real Housewives of Orange. 274 00:15:21,040 --> 00:15:25,160 Speaker 2: County, also posted something in regards to. 275 00:15:26,720 --> 00:15:30,600 Speaker 1: The They had a Cuban flag and it was just 276 00:15:31,000 --> 00:15:33,480 Speaker 1: and and and listen, and I'll end by just saying this, 277 00:15:33,600 --> 00:15:34,680 Speaker 1: and we're gonna move on from it. 278 00:15:38,840 --> 00:15:39,200 Speaker 6: Nasty. 279 00:15:39,760 --> 00:15:45,040 Speaker 1: If y'all only knew how some of your favorite reality 280 00:15:45,160 --> 00:15:48,560 Speaker 1: stars really do feel. And I know that it's easy 281 00:15:48,840 --> 00:15:54,280 Speaker 1: to sometimes look at what some black reality stars do 282 00:15:56,000 --> 00:16:00,880 Speaker 1: when they're interfacing with these situations, and they may not 283 00:16:01,080 --> 00:16:03,080 Speaker 1: do things that we would do, But. 284 00:16:03,320 --> 00:16:06,720 Speaker 2: I implore you to always understand that. 285 00:16:09,240 --> 00:16:13,360 Speaker 1: It's rooted in some place, and sometimes people's behavior get 286 00:16:13,400 --> 00:16:14,760 Speaker 1: rewarded far too long. 287 00:16:15,520 --> 00:16:19,520 Speaker 2: And what I will say is I'm not surprised by 288 00:16:19,680 --> 00:16:21,600 Speaker 2: this based on my. 289 00:16:23,400 --> 00:16:27,400 Speaker 1: Eighteen years being a part of reality television, and I've 290 00:16:27,480 --> 00:16:30,560 Speaker 1: heard tons of things from people working on shows with 291 00:16:30,640 --> 00:16:33,240 Speaker 1: some of these women, and you'll be surprised. 292 00:16:33,440 --> 00:16:35,720 Speaker 2: Well maybe you won't be. I don't think we're surprised anymore. 293 00:16:36,440 --> 00:16:39,040 Speaker 2: But some of these people, the way they treated black producers, 294 00:16:39,080 --> 00:16:41,480 Speaker 2: I'm just gonna call it out. What's abhorrent. 295 00:16:42,120 --> 00:16:45,880 Speaker 1: And I agree with all of you when you say, like, actually, 296 00:16:46,320 --> 00:16:49,120 Speaker 1: thank you for showing us who you really are. 297 00:16:49,680 --> 00:16:53,320 Speaker 2: And Taylor Armstrong, I unfollowed your ass to I'm not. 298 00:16:54,080 --> 00:16:56,000 Speaker 4: I don't know why you was following her funny looking 299 00:16:56,040 --> 00:16:57,920 Speaker 4: at us in the first place. We've been over her 300 00:16:58,080 --> 00:17:02,880 Speaker 4: for years. She got sat on that reunion. She came 301 00:17:02,960 --> 00:17:03,680 Speaker 4: back as a friend. 302 00:17:03,800 --> 00:17:06,359 Speaker 5: She had on that dress that everybody already had on, 303 00:17:06,600 --> 00:17:08,200 Speaker 5: that gradient rainbow dress. 304 00:17:08,520 --> 00:17:09,879 Speaker 4: It looked horrible on her. 305 00:17:10,280 --> 00:17:13,439 Speaker 5: Her skin was all spotted, liver spotted, the fuck up 306 00:17:13,560 --> 00:17:16,720 Speaker 5: lips spread all across her, motherfucking ear lobes on both 307 00:17:16,800 --> 00:17:21,720 Speaker 5: sides of our goddamn face, hair, stringy, split ends, loud mouth, 308 00:17:21,920 --> 00:17:24,920 Speaker 5: horrible home, horrible backstory. If you look into what happened 309 00:17:24,960 --> 00:17:28,480 Speaker 5: to Taylor Armstrong and that husband and his death, it 310 00:17:28,600 --> 00:17:31,200 Speaker 5: was horrible things attached to her and her story. So 311 00:17:31,400 --> 00:17:33,720 Speaker 5: her even being able to come from the ashes of 312 00:17:33,840 --> 00:17:37,520 Speaker 5: obscurity okay in the OC and show up in the 313 00:17:37,600 --> 00:17:41,840 Speaker 5: OC on that show transitioning from her Housewives of Beverly Hills, 314 00:17:41,880 --> 00:17:45,919 Speaker 5: which she never had any business being on. She wasn't stylist, 315 00:17:45,960 --> 00:17:49,159 Speaker 5: she did not, she wasn't. There was nothing aspirational about her. 316 00:17:49,240 --> 00:17:51,920 Speaker 5: If anything, Taylor Armstrong only showed us a life we 317 00:17:51,960 --> 00:17:54,320 Speaker 5: don't want to live. That's all she ever showed us 318 00:17:54,359 --> 00:17:58,160 Speaker 5: on reality television show. She got the gall to put 319 00:17:58,240 --> 00:18:00,480 Speaker 5: herself over the face of a Gladdie her from that 320 00:18:00,560 --> 00:18:02,560 Speaker 5: movie when she literally looks like she was in that 321 00:18:02,760 --> 00:18:06,719 Speaker 5: movie bleeding heart sentiment, fat lips, blew up lips, horrible 322 00:18:06,800 --> 00:18:14,560 Speaker 5: plastic surgery, emaciated, thin, horrible looking neck, snatched, wretched, pulled neck, 323 00:18:14,720 --> 00:18:16,080 Speaker 5: looking horrible. 324 00:18:15,720 --> 00:18:21,280 Speaker 4: Like somebody cook. She looked like somebody put a lemon 325 00:18:21,440 --> 00:18:22,240 Speaker 4: wedge and. 326 00:18:22,359 --> 00:18:25,800 Speaker 5: Some kosher salt on her asshole and took a dirt 327 00:18:25,920 --> 00:18:27,720 Speaker 5: devil and put it on the whole. That's what she 328 00:18:27,840 --> 00:18:31,359 Speaker 5: looked like, like I just sucked everything out her motherfucking ass. 329 00:18:31,760 --> 00:18:34,320 Speaker 5: So we're gonna talk about people were living in a 330 00:18:34,400 --> 00:18:36,560 Speaker 5: time this is funny and all of that other shit, 331 00:18:36,600 --> 00:18:39,200 Speaker 5: but were living in a time where it's literally about 332 00:18:39,359 --> 00:18:42,320 Speaker 5: good versus evil or right versus We're all it is 333 00:18:42,560 --> 00:18:47,119 Speaker 5: not hard to be a kind, compassionate person to others 334 00:18:47,160 --> 00:18:50,080 Speaker 5: in the world. It's not hard to understand what other 335 00:18:50,119 --> 00:18:52,159 Speaker 5: people are going through and figure out how you can 336 00:18:52,240 --> 00:18:55,399 Speaker 5: help and make things better. That's a conscious choice that 337 00:18:55,520 --> 00:18:59,000 Speaker 5: them ugly ass motherfuckers like Jills Aaron and Taylor Armstrong 338 00:18:59,080 --> 00:19:01,960 Speaker 5: are choosing to make when it comes to being hateful 339 00:19:02,000 --> 00:19:05,320 Speaker 5: and supporting these horrible views and not wrapping your arms 340 00:19:05,359 --> 00:19:08,040 Speaker 5: around each other in community no matter what you look like, 341 00:19:08,240 --> 00:19:10,400 Speaker 5: because that's what we need right now. So that's why 342 00:19:10,680 --> 00:19:13,240 Speaker 5: I don't give a fuck about saying Taylor Armstrong looks 343 00:19:13,280 --> 00:19:14,600 Speaker 5: like a Marlboro cigarette. 344 00:19:15,080 --> 00:19:16,720 Speaker 4: That's why one point to. 345 00:19:16,720 --> 00:19:18,960 Speaker 6: Make for Claudia who doesn't know who Taylor Armstrong is, 346 00:19:19,119 --> 00:19:19,439 Speaker 6: and for the. 347 00:19:19,440 --> 00:19:20,480 Speaker 4: Audience, thank God for that. 348 00:19:20,960 --> 00:19:23,840 Speaker 6: For the meme, there's an infamous meme of a gaunt faced, 349 00:19:23,960 --> 00:19:26,960 Speaker 6: blonde woman screaming and pointing, and the other side of 350 00:19:27,000 --> 00:19:29,359 Speaker 6: the meme is a cat looking. Oh, I love the 351 00:19:29,480 --> 00:19:31,320 Speaker 6: cat and that meme the cat. 352 00:19:31,480 --> 00:19:34,080 Speaker 7: Yes, Taylor Armstrong is the gaunt, prick keeper looking white 353 00:19:34,119 --> 00:19:36,520 Speaker 7: woman on the other side of the cat meme. Also, 354 00:19:36,600 --> 00:19:39,399 Speaker 7: the phrase that comes to mind is that equality feels 355 00:19:39,480 --> 00:19:40,879 Speaker 7: like a loss when you're used to being in a 356 00:19:40,920 --> 00:19:44,160 Speaker 7: place of privilege, so human makes them feel like they're 357 00:19:44,200 --> 00:19:46,159 Speaker 7: losing something to direct conflict for them. 358 00:19:46,320 --> 00:19:48,040 Speaker 3: I just don't get the arrogant. When you have it 359 00:19:48,200 --> 00:19:50,560 Speaker 3: all allegedly right, you're still find a way. They're like, 360 00:19:50,880 --> 00:19:54,400 Speaker 3: well what about us? Like y'all, y'all are everywhere? Where 361 00:19:54,400 --> 00:19:57,720 Speaker 3: are the white people? You left the caves, you left Europe? 362 00:19:57,800 --> 00:19:59,879 Speaker 3: They're Viking ansels who left the island to go be 363 00:20:00,160 --> 00:20:03,080 Speaker 3: up everyone and take everybody's land because your land wasn't fertile, 364 00:20:03,520 --> 00:20:06,920 Speaker 3: and you're everywhere, Like you won't be happy until no 365 00:20:07,000 --> 00:20:08,840 Speaker 3: one has anything else except y'all. And now when you 366 00:20:08,960 --> 00:20:10,800 Speaker 3: get that life you want, you're gonna be bored out 367 00:20:10,840 --> 00:20:12,879 Speaker 3: of your mind because you can't have Taco Tuesdays, you 368 00:20:12,960 --> 00:20:14,960 Speaker 3: can't have Soulful, you can't do soul train lines because 369 00:20:15,000 --> 00:20:17,440 Speaker 3: you have no culture and you're mad at people that do. 370 00:20:17,640 --> 00:20:21,040 Speaker 3: Like just like, I'm not Latino, but I was happy 371 00:20:21,160 --> 00:20:23,960 Speaker 3: that Latino people have been so under attacked this year 372 00:20:24,800 --> 00:20:27,159 Speaker 3: of lately. They had their moment just like last year. 373 00:20:27,160 --> 00:20:30,040 Speaker 3: It was after election. We were devastated, right and we 374 00:20:30,119 --> 00:20:31,760 Speaker 3: had a very black sup Bowl, and it made our 375 00:20:32,080 --> 00:20:34,920 Speaker 3: he helped our hearts just a little bit. White people, 376 00:20:34,960 --> 00:20:37,320 Speaker 3: when you guys are the minority, hopefully by twenty forty five, 377 00:20:37,920 --> 00:20:41,320 Speaker 3: and you're oppressed, if you are, okay, if the Good 378 00:20:41,400 --> 00:20:43,680 Speaker 3: Lord sees it to be that way, then maybe we 379 00:20:43,800 --> 00:20:45,320 Speaker 3: will have some empathy and be like, oh man, I 380 00:20:45,440 --> 00:20:47,840 Speaker 3: let the white people shine where the white people. But 381 00:20:47,960 --> 00:20:51,000 Speaker 3: y'all have a monopoly of everything. So calm the fuck down. 382 00:20:51,119 --> 00:20:54,800 Speaker 3: You're fine, and you're rich and you look like that. Okay, Sorry, Carls. 383 00:20:54,840 --> 00:20:55,720 Speaker 3: I know we've been reading this. 384 00:20:57,720 --> 00:20:59,600 Speaker 4: Thing since we're fucking talking about it. 385 00:21:01,920 --> 00:21:04,600 Speaker 5: Not liking the super Bowl performer or it should have 386 00:21:04,640 --> 00:21:07,000 Speaker 5: been Chris Brown, shut the fuck up, and it's not 387 00:21:07,160 --> 00:21:08,800 Speaker 5: up to none of us to pick who the super 388 00:21:08,840 --> 00:21:12,160 Speaker 5: Bowl performer is. Of course, hell I wish Betty right 389 00:21:12,560 --> 00:21:14,639 Speaker 5: when it did the super Bowl halftime. So we're just 390 00:21:14,720 --> 00:21:17,320 Speaker 5: picking who we liked. Put Keisha Cole up there, you 391 00:21:17,359 --> 00:21:19,880 Speaker 5: know what I'm saying. But we're not making those choices. 392 00:21:20,200 --> 00:21:24,639 Speaker 5: There's nothing wrong with enjoying the show. Allow yourself to 393 00:21:24,720 --> 00:21:26,320 Speaker 5: be entertained by some other shit. 394 00:21:26,400 --> 00:21:27,520 Speaker 4: You don't have to like it. 395 00:21:27,880 --> 00:21:30,760 Speaker 5: It doesn't mean that something wrong was done or there 396 00:21:30,880 --> 00:21:33,560 Speaker 5: was any egregious act that took place. 397 00:21:33,359 --> 00:21:36,280 Speaker 4: By installing him as a Super Bowl performer. 398 00:21:36,800 --> 00:21:39,440 Speaker 5: Enjoy the show, or take your ass in the kitchen 399 00:21:39,480 --> 00:21:41,560 Speaker 5: and get a drink like everybody else and come back 400 00:21:41,560 --> 00:21:43,880 Speaker 5: to the game after the halftime show is over. It's 401 00:21:43,920 --> 00:21:46,040 Speaker 5: not your place to say what you thought it who 402 00:21:46,200 --> 00:21:49,840 Speaker 5: should have been? It's not up to y'all. Somebody you like, 403 00:21:49,960 --> 00:21:52,320 Speaker 5: it's somebody you like. If somebody you don't like, let 404 00:21:52,440 --> 00:21:54,840 Speaker 5: that be its man. 405 00:21:55,080 --> 00:21:57,280 Speaker 3: They have the White Bowl, the Turning Point Bowl. 406 00:21:57,400 --> 00:21:59,840 Speaker 6: The I watched it, it was by it was trash. 407 00:22:00,000 --> 00:22:07,280 Speaker 3: It's a very sad widow of Tie sad. I'm so 408 00:22:07,400 --> 00:22:08,680 Speaker 3: sick of bitch and fireworks. 409 00:22:11,760 --> 00:22:13,480 Speaker 6: That's the happiest what I've ever seen in my life. 410 00:22:14,160 --> 00:22:16,720 Speaker 1: Well, like I said, as a as a person who 411 00:22:16,840 --> 00:22:18,719 Speaker 1: never heard a bad Buddy song, I thought he did 412 00:22:18,760 --> 00:22:21,200 Speaker 1: a stell a job and I enjoyed minutes of it. 413 00:22:22,000 --> 00:22:32,800 Speaker 1: Moving on to another topic, I was, but listen. I 414 00:22:32,920 --> 00:22:35,680 Speaker 1: think it's a topic that will lighten the mood a 415 00:22:35,680 --> 00:22:36,080 Speaker 1: little bit. 416 00:22:36,200 --> 00:22:36,960 Speaker 3: But listen. 417 00:22:37,119 --> 00:22:40,280 Speaker 1: Also aside, I'm glad we used this because one thing 418 00:22:40,320 --> 00:22:43,600 Speaker 1: about mother and I lie we never talked about politics. 419 00:22:43,680 --> 00:22:48,280 Speaker 1: Because I listen, I made a conscious decision to really 420 00:22:49,000 --> 00:22:53,440 Speaker 1: for once a week to have people enjoy something that 421 00:22:53,760 --> 00:22:58,600 Speaker 1: isn't on the news. However, this was important for me 422 00:22:58,680 --> 00:23:02,000 Speaker 1: to address because it was the intersection. Uh, it wasn't 423 00:23:02,000 --> 00:23:05,840 Speaker 1: about politics, honestly, It's about the ignorance of a reality star. 424 00:23:06,080 --> 00:23:09,480 Speaker 1: So again, I'm glad we all decided to talk about that. 425 00:23:11,200 --> 00:23:14,919 Speaker 1: Are you guys ready to talk about Potomac really fast? 426 00:23:16,560 --> 00:23:16,760 Speaker 4: Yeah? 427 00:23:17,400 --> 00:23:22,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, all right, so. 428 00:23:25,280 --> 00:23:26,040 Speaker 2: Let's throw. 429 00:23:27,720 --> 00:23:27,760 Speaker 1: So. 430 00:23:28,080 --> 00:23:33,280 Speaker 2: Ashley Darby did an interview recently and. 431 00:23:34,000 --> 00:23:38,480 Speaker 1: She talked about how she has given her blood, sweat 432 00:23:38,840 --> 00:23:43,560 Speaker 1: and tears to the Real Housewives of Potomac and when 433 00:23:43,760 --> 00:23:47,920 Speaker 1: asked about people saying that she doesn't have a storyline, 434 00:23:48,400 --> 00:23:51,560 Speaker 1: she said that she does film things. 435 00:23:51,359 --> 00:23:56,080 Speaker 2: With storylines, it's not her decision on what gets shown. However, 436 00:23:56,720 --> 00:23:58,639 Speaker 2: she did say so for those. 437 00:23:58,800 --> 00:24:02,000 Speaker 1: Who think I don't have one, she doesn't care what 438 00:24:02,400 --> 00:24:07,639 Speaker 1: you guys think, Claudia. A lot of people, there's a 439 00:24:07,920 --> 00:24:14,240 Speaker 1: lot of people who are demanding that Ashley Darby is 440 00:24:14,440 --> 00:24:17,600 Speaker 1: either demoted to a friend or just. 441 00:24:17,680 --> 00:24:20,520 Speaker 2: Off the show. They feel like her time is up. 442 00:24:22,160 --> 00:24:22,840 Speaker 4: You know, they. 443 00:24:22,840 --> 00:24:25,400 Speaker 1: Appreciated what she brought to the show, but they feel 444 00:24:25,480 --> 00:24:27,360 Speaker 1: like she has nothing to talk about, and they don't 445 00:24:27,400 --> 00:24:30,000 Speaker 1: give two shits about who she dates, nor what's going 446 00:24:30,040 --> 00:24:31,040 Speaker 1: on with her mom, Sheila. 447 00:24:34,040 --> 00:24:35,040 Speaker 6: How she gonna catch a story? 448 00:24:35,520 --> 00:24:43,040 Speaker 3: I know, unpopular opinion. You know, I'm tomic. I just 449 00:24:43,080 --> 00:24:46,600 Speaker 3: started really watching it this year. Okay, she doesn't bother 450 00:24:46,720 --> 00:24:48,760 Speaker 3: me like she bothers on people because she's a shit starter, 451 00:24:48,880 --> 00:24:50,639 Speaker 3: and if she was, if someone wasn't stilling the pot, 452 00:24:50,720 --> 00:24:52,680 Speaker 3: we'd be like boring. We need someone to strow the pot. 453 00:24:52,960 --> 00:24:55,200 Speaker 3: So she that's her role. Her role isn't to have 454 00:24:55,400 --> 00:24:58,760 Speaker 3: the A character. Uh you know, there's the A cast 455 00:24:58,840 --> 00:25:00,440 Speaker 3: and the Bee cast. I think she's more than be cast. 456 00:25:00,480 --> 00:25:02,040 Speaker 3: I don't think she's a friend. I think she's there 457 00:25:02,080 --> 00:25:04,840 Speaker 3: to stir the shit up and kind of keep be petty. 458 00:25:05,320 --> 00:25:08,880 Speaker 3: She backs up Giselle. There's a place for her there. 459 00:25:09,359 --> 00:25:11,760 Speaker 3: I find some of her antics entertaining. I can see 460 00:25:11,760 --> 00:25:13,960 Speaker 3: if you've been a long time views the show, maybe 461 00:25:14,000 --> 00:25:15,920 Speaker 3: you have a different opinion, like, oh, why didn't like 462 00:25:16,000 --> 00:25:17,760 Speaker 3: in season three she did this in season. 463 00:25:17,760 --> 00:25:18,359 Speaker 1: I don't have that. 464 00:25:18,600 --> 00:25:21,560 Speaker 3: I'm just talking about this season. She talked to her shit, 465 00:25:21,640 --> 00:25:23,560 Speaker 3: and if she didn't talk her shit, people would be 466 00:25:23,600 --> 00:25:26,040 Speaker 3: mad that it's boring. It's kumbaya. If they do talk 467 00:25:26,119 --> 00:25:28,280 Speaker 3: this shit. She don't have a storyline. We don't know 468 00:25:28,359 --> 00:25:30,080 Speaker 3: what gets left on the editing floor. I don't know. 469 00:25:30,960 --> 00:25:32,720 Speaker 3: I do think she I mean, we have talked about 470 00:25:32,720 --> 00:25:34,600 Speaker 3: some of her antics. Fucking with her friend, the friend's son, 471 00:25:34,640 --> 00:25:38,960 Speaker 3: that was wild. She does try a lot to be 472 00:25:39,080 --> 00:25:43,880 Speaker 3: the sexual person. Yeah, but again, it's a reality show. 473 00:25:43,920 --> 00:25:46,720 Speaker 3: In real life would have be annoying probably, but it's TV, 474 00:25:46,920 --> 00:25:48,480 Speaker 3: so I don't take it as a seasons the first. 475 00:25:48,280 --> 00:25:49,840 Speaker 7: Season, we can tell you're that you star. She's a 476 00:25:49,880 --> 00:25:51,920 Speaker 7: one trick pony. That's the problem, Claudia. So you're watching 477 00:25:52,000 --> 00:25:54,160 Speaker 7: her one trick. Next year you're gonna watch the same 478 00:25:54,440 --> 00:25:56,640 Speaker 7: copy and baste water down version of the same antics. 479 00:25:57,240 --> 00:25:59,920 Speaker 7: That's why we're tired. And that's the thing about ash 480 00:26:00,240 --> 00:26:01,720 Speaker 7: She's unoriginal, she's transparent. 481 00:26:01,800 --> 00:26:02,239 Speaker 6: Here's the thing. 482 00:26:02,640 --> 00:26:05,399 Speaker 7: Chiselle can be an original and transparent, but there's a 483 00:26:05,520 --> 00:26:06,960 Speaker 7: fun about it in a weird way, you know what 484 00:26:06,960 --> 00:26:07,240 Speaker 7: I mean. 485 00:26:07,359 --> 00:26:09,760 Speaker 6: Like Giselle is almost like a cartoon character who's in 486 00:26:09,840 --> 00:26:10,280 Speaker 6: on the joke. 487 00:26:10,960 --> 00:26:14,639 Speaker 7: Ashley takes herself seriously in ways that are cringe, like 488 00:26:14,640 --> 00:26:16,600 Speaker 7: when she's trying to go to Marcus, when she's trying 489 00:26:16,600 --> 00:26:18,960 Speaker 7: to pretend she can dance and sing. It's like somebody 490 00:26:18,960 --> 00:26:21,040 Speaker 7: invite you to their kids, reciteal and you can't go home. 491 00:26:21,720 --> 00:26:23,800 Speaker 7: And nobody bought tickets for this play? Like can we 492 00:26:23,920 --> 00:26:26,960 Speaker 7: all we bought the chocolates we donated to the girls? 493 00:26:27,000 --> 00:26:28,720 Speaker 6: How where's the cookies at? Can we go home? 494 00:26:28,800 --> 00:26:28,960 Speaker 4: Now? 495 00:26:29,880 --> 00:26:33,639 Speaker 6: Go to Marcus, Go to Marcus? Oh god stop, I 496 00:26:33,800 --> 00:26:34,200 Speaker 6: just can't. 497 00:26:34,280 --> 00:26:37,200 Speaker 7: I'm tired. I'm tired being a light with this lady. 498 00:26:37,280 --> 00:26:40,000 Speaker 7: Send her home, set her own. What is the cherry blossoms, 499 00:26:40,040 --> 00:26:41,360 Speaker 7: peaches of a crew? 500 00:26:41,480 --> 00:26:45,200 Speaker 6: Cocktails? Home and you look better as a man. So 501 00:26:45,600 --> 00:26:47,840 Speaker 6: here's the thing that she was on drag races like 502 00:26:47,880 --> 00:26:50,600 Speaker 6: a guest, like co star whatever. That'd be fun. 503 00:26:50,720 --> 00:26:53,159 Speaker 7: Okay, when Astley's pretending to be for the gays and 504 00:26:53,520 --> 00:26:56,280 Speaker 7: doing a little thing, that's fun a little bit until 505 00:26:56,320 --> 00:26:58,480 Speaker 7: she pretends she is gay herself, which we don't believe that, baby, 506 00:26:58,800 --> 00:27:00,880 Speaker 7: But like, stick to the old man in the rivers 507 00:27:00,920 --> 00:27:01,840 Speaker 7: and the lakes that you were used to. 508 00:27:02,359 --> 00:27:04,240 Speaker 6: You had a good run, You had a good run. 509 00:27:04,320 --> 00:27:06,400 Speaker 2: Sis, that's the wrong. 510 00:27:07,200 --> 00:27:09,400 Speaker 5: Yeah, you know, I'm actually gonna side with my sisters 511 00:27:09,440 --> 00:27:12,760 Speaker 5: on this one, both of y'all, Claudia and Blue I'm 512 00:27:12,800 --> 00:27:15,960 Speaker 5: with Claudia Ashley's antics. Although they might not be you know, 513 00:27:16,440 --> 00:27:20,800 Speaker 5: my choice or my you know favorite, they're relevant and 514 00:27:20,880 --> 00:27:23,640 Speaker 5: they keep the engine moving and running when it comes 515 00:27:23,680 --> 00:27:25,080 Speaker 5: to the real hustiles of Potomac. 516 00:27:25,160 --> 00:27:26,720 Speaker 4: That's why she's been there from day one. 517 00:27:27,400 --> 00:27:31,480 Speaker 5: So I think that Ashley has avoided a lot of 518 00:27:31,600 --> 00:27:34,680 Speaker 5: conversations that would really ground her with the viewers and 519 00:27:34,840 --> 00:27:38,600 Speaker 5: really like allow us to really crack through the facade 520 00:27:38,880 --> 00:27:43,000 Speaker 5: of entertainment that she brings. I would love if she 521 00:27:43,119 --> 00:27:45,520 Speaker 5: comes back next season, which I feel like she will, 522 00:27:46,520 --> 00:27:49,400 Speaker 5: because honestly, there's no reason not to bring her back. 523 00:27:49,760 --> 00:27:51,119 Speaker 4: If she comes back next season. 524 00:27:51,240 --> 00:27:56,000 Speaker 5: I would love to see Ashley asked about her personal 525 00:27:56,080 --> 00:27:58,280 Speaker 5: constitution of blackness on camera. 526 00:27:58,680 --> 00:28:00,840 Speaker 4: I would like to hear ash asked. 527 00:28:00,600 --> 00:28:05,240 Speaker 5: About how she feels about being a biracial woman and shit, 528 00:28:05,520 --> 00:28:07,680 Speaker 5: and I would love to see her expound on that 529 00:28:07,840 --> 00:28:12,480 Speaker 5: and really defined her what her constitution of blackness means 530 00:28:12,600 --> 00:28:17,320 Speaker 5: to her beyond using a black colloquialism when she sees fit. 531 00:28:17,680 --> 00:28:22,119 Speaker 4: Things like lying ass whole or hating ass bit. 532 00:28:22,280 --> 00:28:25,040 Speaker 5: You know, the things that she says that are identify 533 00:28:25,320 --> 00:28:30,360 Speaker 5: our colloquialisms, right, but they don't align with everything else 534 00:28:30,400 --> 00:28:30,960 Speaker 5: she brings to it. 535 00:28:31,040 --> 00:28:32,720 Speaker 4: We've never really seen her date a black guy on 536 00:28:32,840 --> 00:28:34,919 Speaker 4: this show. I know she dated a black guy on. 537 00:28:35,040 --> 00:28:38,240 Speaker 5: Love Hotel, or she entertained the advances of a black 538 00:28:38,280 --> 00:28:40,360 Speaker 5: guy on that show, but we ain't seen that on Potomac. 539 00:28:40,840 --> 00:28:42,480 Speaker 5: I would d And we've never seen her have a 540 00:28:42,520 --> 00:28:45,760 Speaker 5: conversation with her family, her mom, uncle, Lump. We ain't 541 00:28:45,760 --> 00:28:47,840 Speaker 5: never seen her have a conversation with none of them 542 00:28:47,920 --> 00:28:49,920 Speaker 5: pertaining to that. So that's what I would like to 543 00:28:50,000 --> 00:28:54,160 Speaker 5: see to show with her, ask her about it, ask 544 00:28:54,200 --> 00:28:57,040 Speaker 5: her like, Ashley, why did you go to the to 545 00:28:57,160 --> 00:29:00,480 Speaker 5: the Trump White House, the White House correspond his dinner 546 00:29:00,520 --> 00:29:01,440 Speaker 5: or whatever the fuck you went to? 547 00:29:01,520 --> 00:29:03,200 Speaker 4: Why did you go to that? Why did you? 548 00:29:03,360 --> 00:29:05,320 Speaker 5: Why are you a Lani and so with these people? Like, 549 00:29:05,800 --> 00:29:08,160 Speaker 5: what's up with you and your blackness? I would love 550 00:29:08,200 --> 00:29:11,560 Speaker 5: to see that explored. If we do that, there's your storyline. 551 00:29:11,800 --> 00:29:13,040 Speaker 4: I would definitely ask about that. 552 00:29:14,200 --> 00:29:17,400 Speaker 3: I do not like a by racial girl that does 553 00:29:17,520 --> 00:29:19,640 Speaker 3: not claim the black side. I do not like that 554 00:29:19,840 --> 00:29:21,040 Speaker 3: at all. That pisces me off. 555 00:29:21,200 --> 00:29:23,960 Speaker 7: Actually so all she doesn't stand out to her white 556 00:29:24,000 --> 00:29:25,280 Speaker 7: daddy's house and tells him to come out. 557 00:29:25,360 --> 00:29:26,800 Speaker 6: He's like just come out. I'm not gonna beat you up, 558 00:29:26,800 --> 00:29:27,720 Speaker 6: and that man never comes out. 559 00:29:28,080 --> 00:29:30,480 Speaker 7: That's all we's seen about her family in that way, 560 00:29:30,800 --> 00:29:32,280 Speaker 7: I would like her to show as much of an 561 00:29:32,280 --> 00:29:35,160 Speaker 7: investment to Dustin's point and being with her blackness. 562 00:29:35,360 --> 00:29:37,640 Speaker 3: So it sounds like she has the thing there to 563 00:29:37,880 --> 00:29:40,800 Speaker 3: have like quite a storyline if she would be open 564 00:29:40,840 --> 00:29:43,120 Speaker 3: to that, because that would be a whole bunch of 565 00:29:43,200 --> 00:29:44,400 Speaker 3: conversation starters right there. 566 00:29:45,240 --> 00:29:47,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, and that's the reason why I'm with Dustin. 567 00:29:47,240 --> 00:29:49,040 Speaker 1: Actually, a group of all three of you guys, listen, 568 00:29:49,880 --> 00:29:54,560 Speaker 1: Ashley Darby and Giselle Brian are the last. 569 00:29:54,360 --> 00:29:56,560 Speaker 2: Standing ogs on the show. 570 00:29:59,240 --> 00:30:01,000 Speaker 4: And I'll to just on a second. 571 00:30:01,920 --> 00:30:05,760 Speaker 1: Ashley brought a lot of life to the earlier seasons 572 00:30:05,800 --> 00:30:08,360 Speaker 1: of the show when she was married to Michael Darby. 573 00:30:08,560 --> 00:30:13,120 Speaker 1: Michael Darby was this very interesting person that she was 574 00:30:13,280 --> 00:30:18,920 Speaker 1: married to, but it made the show great because it 575 00:30:19,080 --> 00:30:20,200 Speaker 1: was something you never seen. 576 00:30:20,280 --> 00:30:23,240 Speaker 2: She's a self admitted sugar baby, right. 577 00:30:23,640 --> 00:30:26,880 Speaker 1: She only dates wealthy men, and not only just wealthy men, 578 00:30:26,960 --> 00:30:29,040 Speaker 1: they have to be extremely older than her. 579 00:30:29,640 --> 00:30:31,600 Speaker 2: That's that's that's what she likes. 580 00:30:31,800 --> 00:30:36,080 Speaker 1: And and the moment he decided not to do the 581 00:30:36,160 --> 00:30:41,560 Speaker 1: show anymore, that's when her personal storylines became less to 582 00:30:41,600 --> 00:30:44,960 Speaker 1: be desired. There was there was nothing that had meat 583 00:30:45,120 --> 00:30:49,840 Speaker 1: on the bones that you gravitated towards. She's always been 584 00:30:49,920 --> 00:30:52,920 Speaker 1: messy and and and and you're my Claudia. As a 585 00:30:53,000 --> 00:30:56,680 Speaker 1: reality producer myself, you always want a messy person. I 586 00:30:57,520 --> 00:31:00,360 Speaker 1: if I could haves a Kenya Moore on all of 587 00:31:00,440 --> 00:31:01,680 Speaker 1: my shows, I'll be happy. 588 00:31:01,920 --> 00:31:03,800 Speaker 2: Now I do have a couple of other shows. But hey, 589 00:31:07,960 --> 00:31:09,719 Speaker 2: with that being said, hey, y'all, collector. 590 00:31:10,200 --> 00:31:13,320 Speaker 1: With that being said, one thing I will say is 591 00:31:14,800 --> 00:31:17,880 Speaker 1: my concern with Ashley is what Blue says. She is 592 00:31:17,960 --> 00:31:23,040 Speaker 1: a one trick pony, and Ashley is there to be 593 00:31:23,240 --> 00:31:25,200 Speaker 1: messy and get the check and move on. 594 00:31:25,840 --> 00:31:29,920 Speaker 2: And that may be okay if that is your intention. 595 00:31:30,640 --> 00:31:34,000 Speaker 1: But what the other ladies do on that show, well, 596 00:31:34,320 --> 00:31:37,360 Speaker 1: is they at least make it seem like they care 597 00:31:38,080 --> 00:31:43,120 Speaker 1: and act. Ashley has not forged a true friendship with anybody. 598 00:31:44,000 --> 00:31:46,040 Speaker 1: I will say this, do I want Ashley to be 599 00:31:46,160 --> 00:31:50,360 Speaker 1: on the show full time? Only if everything you guys 600 00:31:50,400 --> 00:31:53,000 Speaker 1: said she should bring I agree with. In addition to 601 00:31:53,760 --> 00:31:57,600 Speaker 1: I'm only interested in seeing her and Cherise have a 602 00:31:57,840 --> 00:31:59,400 Speaker 1: real sit down conversation. 603 00:32:03,680 --> 00:32:05,520 Speaker 4: I want to say, I want to see, like what 604 00:32:05,640 --> 00:32:06,960 Speaker 4: the fun you said about my son? 605 00:32:11,320 --> 00:32:13,440 Speaker 2: I want to see real conversations. 606 00:32:13,640 --> 00:32:16,720 Speaker 1: I've been very open about the thing that some of 607 00:32:16,760 --> 00:32:20,200 Speaker 1: the ladies with Potomac is I want I want the 608 00:32:20,280 --> 00:32:23,400 Speaker 1: show to get back to, like, let's talk about something real. 609 00:32:24,280 --> 00:32:27,200 Speaker 1: You dating this guy off summer house or love hold, 610 00:32:27,280 --> 00:32:31,320 Speaker 1: Like that's not real? Your thing with your mama. I 611 00:32:31,440 --> 00:32:36,000 Speaker 1: feel sorry for miss Sheila, but what's going on with you? 612 00:32:36,640 --> 00:32:39,000 Speaker 1: So to know that you made out with your son, 613 00:32:39,440 --> 00:32:43,160 Speaker 1: your friend's son, that is interesting. Is the reason why 614 00:32:43,320 --> 00:32:47,200 Speaker 1: Sherry Shepherd watched Reality with the King and Butcheries. 615 00:32:47,960 --> 00:32:48,880 Speaker 2: It's the reason why. 616 00:32:52,880 --> 00:32:58,000 Speaker 4: Okay, that's true, it literally happened. That's why I just 617 00:32:58,080 --> 00:33:02,360 Speaker 4: called what happens. 618 00:33:04,160 --> 00:33:06,719 Speaker 2: Cherry Hey, shary producers. 619 00:33:06,720 --> 00:33:07,320 Speaker 6: I love y'all. 620 00:33:09,040 --> 00:33:11,600 Speaker 2: But my point, my point is saying that was. 621 00:33:11,680 --> 00:33:17,520 Speaker 1: More so like Sherry Shepherd contacted Charise because my interview, 622 00:33:17,960 --> 00:33:22,520 Speaker 1: my interview with her, she exposed a lot, and everybody had, 623 00:33:22,720 --> 00:33:25,480 Speaker 1: even Dustin and Claudia and you blew you either. 624 00:33:26,000 --> 00:33:28,400 Speaker 2: We all have strong opinions about it. 625 00:33:28,800 --> 00:33:31,680 Speaker 1: So my point is I don't have a strong opinion 626 00:33:32,120 --> 00:33:34,720 Speaker 1: about anything Ashley does, but. 627 00:33:35,360 --> 00:33:37,960 Speaker 2: This one, I'm like, I want to see this. So 628 00:33:38,120 --> 00:33:41,480 Speaker 2: my thing is bring Cherise back for a few episodes. 629 00:33:41,880 --> 00:33:44,200 Speaker 1: I want the season to be started with Chariz and 630 00:33:44,360 --> 00:33:47,360 Speaker 1: Ashley one on one. I want to see Giselle confront 631 00:33:47,440 --> 00:33:51,680 Speaker 1: Charisse for saying you you aligned with other women to 632 00:33:51,760 --> 00:33:54,160 Speaker 1: get me kicked off the show. These are things we 633 00:33:54,280 --> 00:33:56,320 Speaker 1: want to see. We don't want to see Amazing the 634 00:33:56,400 --> 00:33:59,680 Speaker 1: New Girl. We don't want to see y'all being Wendy's 635 00:33:59,680 --> 00:34:03,720 Speaker 1: businessiness or Karen's business. That's five, episode four through eight. 636 00:34:04,600 --> 00:34:08,000 Speaker 1: But let's jump start this show with some real storylines. 637 00:34:08,280 --> 00:34:10,160 Speaker 1: And that's the only way I albould want to see 638 00:34:10,160 --> 00:34:11,120 Speaker 1: Ashley back full time. 639 00:34:14,280 --> 00:34:16,440 Speaker 6: We just put us the whole next season, like somebody 640 00:34:16,960 --> 00:34:17,440 Speaker 6: check us out. 641 00:34:17,840 --> 00:34:20,759 Speaker 2: That's just that. Speaking speaking of. 642 00:34:22,239 --> 00:34:27,160 Speaker 1: Giselle, Her and Robin's podcast Reasonably Shady, they taped their 643 00:34:27,280 --> 00:34:30,960 Speaker 1: episode to where they talked about Karen Huger's interview. We 644 00:34:31,160 --> 00:34:33,440 Speaker 1: talked about it last week, Claudia and Dustin Bleue, you 645 00:34:33,520 --> 00:34:35,919 Speaker 1: weren't here. We'd love to get her thoughts. But first 646 00:34:35,920 --> 00:34:42,400 Speaker 1: and foremost, Robin felt that Karen had no real accountability. 647 00:34:43,360 --> 00:34:46,800 Speaker 1: Robin felt that she wasn't open and honest truly about 648 00:34:46,840 --> 00:34:52,640 Speaker 1: her alcoholism. She Robin felt that what she wanted to 649 00:34:52,760 --> 00:34:57,240 Speaker 1: hear from Karen. Was drunk driving is bad. I should 650 00:34:57,320 --> 00:35:00,480 Speaker 1: have never got behind the wheel. I could have killed somebody. 651 00:35:01,719 --> 00:35:03,000 Speaker 2: That's what Robin would have. 652 00:35:03,160 --> 00:35:04,520 Speaker 4: Wanted to see. 653 00:35:04,800 --> 00:35:08,400 Speaker 1: And she felt that Karen, who she said, we know 654 00:35:08,480 --> 00:35:11,560 Speaker 1: a lot about Karen. She just thought that Karen wasn't 655 00:35:11,760 --> 00:35:17,000 Speaker 1: being wasn't holding herself accountable for the drinking. I want 656 00:35:17,040 --> 00:35:19,160 Speaker 1: to start with blue only because we did not get 657 00:35:19,200 --> 00:35:21,720 Speaker 1: your thoughts on the Karen Huger one on one interview. 658 00:35:22,239 --> 00:35:24,320 Speaker 2: What did you think about that? And then do you 659 00:35:24,480 --> 00:35:28,280 Speaker 2: agree with Robin? Do you agree with Robin? 660 00:35:28,400 --> 00:35:28,520 Speaker 3: Oh? 661 00:35:28,600 --> 00:35:30,040 Speaker 7: Man, I'm about to answer this in a way that 662 00:35:30,040 --> 00:35:32,200 Speaker 7: I never thought I would answer any question involving Robin. 663 00:35:34,920 --> 00:35:40,479 Speaker 7: Karen did a great job of feigning sincerity while giving 664 00:35:40,520 --> 00:35:42,040 Speaker 7: herself back in the compliments. 665 00:35:43,840 --> 00:35:45,799 Speaker 6: It was like, oh, you know, I'm so sad by 666 00:35:45,840 --> 00:35:46,680 Speaker 6: the way these braids. 667 00:35:46,760 --> 00:35:48,799 Speaker 7: You know, all the girls took a chunk of hair 668 00:35:48,840 --> 00:35:50,719 Speaker 7: and braided their hair, or oh I tried to be 669 00:35:50,800 --> 00:35:53,320 Speaker 7: everybody's mama, or you know, I didn't want him to 670 00:35:53,360 --> 00:35:54,040 Speaker 7: watch that video. 671 00:35:54,120 --> 00:35:56,160 Speaker 6: I didn't even watch that video. I should have listened 672 00:35:56,160 --> 00:35:57,640 Speaker 6: to my lawyer. What's what's in the video? Though? Can 673 00:35:57,640 --> 00:35:58,480 Speaker 6: you talk about what in the video. 674 00:35:58,560 --> 00:36:01,759 Speaker 7: It's like it's like the the water was swirling the 675 00:36:01,840 --> 00:36:03,520 Speaker 7: toilet bowl, but nobody ever flushed. 676 00:36:03,640 --> 00:36:04,920 Speaker 6: I kept waiting for somebody. 677 00:36:04,680 --> 00:36:07,800 Speaker 7: To flush it, and so it felt like a tease. 678 00:36:08,000 --> 00:36:10,479 Speaker 7: And the irony is the same thing that Robin saying 679 00:36:10,480 --> 00:36:13,359 Speaker 7: about Karen. We all said about Robin when it comes 680 00:36:13,400 --> 00:36:15,600 Speaker 7: to one. So I guess it takes one to no one. 681 00:36:16,320 --> 00:36:16,920 Speaker 7: That's awkward. 682 00:36:17,040 --> 00:36:17,200 Speaker 1: Huh. 683 00:36:17,520 --> 00:36:19,680 Speaker 6: You suddenly understand nuance and accountability? 684 00:36:19,760 --> 00:36:20,000 Speaker 1: Robin? 685 00:36:20,200 --> 00:36:23,280 Speaker 7: What happened all them damn seasons because the man apparently 686 00:36:23,320 --> 00:36:25,280 Speaker 7: went to the hotel and then he had let me stop. 687 00:36:25,400 --> 00:36:30,520 Speaker 6: Anyways, I'm back, I'm back. You mentioned Robin. I was triggered, 688 00:36:30,960 --> 00:36:31,840 Speaker 6: So I'm just. 689 00:36:31,920 --> 00:36:37,800 Speaker 2: Gonna say I got me another confrontation with Robin. She 690 00:36:37,880 --> 00:36:40,000 Speaker 2: could confront me, So. 691 00:36:41,920 --> 00:36:44,480 Speaker 6: Say, Robin, I agree, because it takes one to no one. 692 00:36:47,960 --> 00:36:48,360 Speaker 2: Dusted. 693 00:36:50,440 --> 00:36:51,879 Speaker 6: I was lucky I wasn't here last week. 694 00:36:51,920 --> 00:36:52,160 Speaker 2: Sorry. 695 00:36:52,360 --> 00:36:53,000 Speaker 4: Here's the thing. 696 00:36:53,640 --> 00:36:56,840 Speaker 5: Karen was dead ass wrong for getting four motherfucking dui 697 00:36:57,000 --> 00:36:59,520 Speaker 5: s Okay. She endangered a lot of people on the 698 00:36:59,640 --> 00:37:04,000 Speaker 5: road and including herself others. It was it was egregious 699 00:37:04,200 --> 00:37:06,400 Speaker 5: for her to get four DUIs, and she served her 700 00:37:06,440 --> 00:37:10,160 Speaker 5: time that she was that she deserved, right, and that's 701 00:37:10,239 --> 00:37:12,880 Speaker 5: the end of that story, right, But that does not 702 00:37:13,040 --> 00:37:16,359 Speaker 5: negate the fact that that is so rich coming from 703 00:37:16,520 --> 00:37:20,920 Speaker 5: Robin fucking Dixon to demand accountability or direct speak to 704 00:37:21,040 --> 00:37:24,480 Speaker 5: an issue, direct speech to an issue. When Robin filmed 705 00:37:24,520 --> 00:37:27,600 Speaker 5: an entire season of the Real Housewives of Potomac and 706 00:37:27,840 --> 00:37:34,759 Speaker 5: ignored a a breach in her marriage covenant, okay with 707 00:37:35,080 --> 00:37:39,280 Speaker 5: with quote unquote receipts and y'all digging online ass niggas 708 00:37:39,320 --> 00:37:41,200 Speaker 5: love that, you know what I'm saying. She even had 709 00:37:41,280 --> 00:37:44,800 Speaker 5: those and ignored it and then had the gall and 710 00:37:44,960 --> 00:37:48,920 Speaker 5: audacity to sit on that couch and put it because 711 00:37:48,960 --> 00:37:50,480 Speaker 5: you know, she was sitting on the couch on her 712 00:37:50,560 --> 00:37:53,120 Speaker 5: phone when she did it and put it behind a payroll, 713 00:37:53,440 --> 00:37:57,960 Speaker 5: a paywall on Patreon. I was actually the bartender on 714 00:37:58,120 --> 00:38:01,440 Speaker 5: Watch What Happens Live. My baby Evany K. Williams was 715 00:38:01,520 --> 00:38:04,560 Speaker 5: the guest when Robin had to hold She had to 716 00:38:04,719 --> 00:38:07,520 Speaker 5: be to answer to that, when Andy had to They 717 00:38:07,600 --> 00:38:10,040 Speaker 5: had to literally bring her and watch What Happens Live 718 00:38:10,400 --> 00:38:12,279 Speaker 5: to get her to speak directly to an issue that 719 00:38:12,440 --> 00:38:18,200 Speaker 5: she withheld and purposely like shielded from the show for 720 00:38:18,320 --> 00:38:21,120 Speaker 5: an entire season. So for her to open up her 721 00:38:21,239 --> 00:38:24,520 Speaker 5: mouth and say that Karen should be accountable for whatever 722 00:38:24,600 --> 00:38:27,360 Speaker 5: the fucker she didn't like. Karen be an evasive Robin, 723 00:38:27,680 --> 00:38:30,719 Speaker 5: you literally have spent years being evasive and vague when 724 00:38:30,760 --> 00:38:33,480 Speaker 5: it came to whatever was going on between her and 725 00:38:33,560 --> 00:38:36,360 Speaker 5: her husband. So it's kind of misaligned, you know what 726 00:38:36,440 --> 00:38:38,880 Speaker 5: I'm saying. I love the fact that Robin was not 727 00:38:39,000 --> 00:38:41,839 Speaker 5: afraid to share her opinion about it. That's the things 728 00:38:41,880 --> 00:38:44,800 Speaker 5: that make a great housewife, right, So love Robin or 729 00:38:44,840 --> 00:38:46,000 Speaker 5: hate her, she was able to have. 730 00:38:46,080 --> 00:38:48,560 Speaker 4: An opinion and we're talking about it, right. 731 00:38:48,560 --> 00:38:52,759 Speaker 5: And yeah, great podcast host for sure, because she's not 732 00:38:52,840 --> 00:38:55,959 Speaker 5: a housewife no more so you're right, great podcast host. 733 00:38:56,719 --> 00:39:00,360 Speaker 5: Incredible talent on that show that's in it, whatever year is, 734 00:39:00,400 --> 00:39:03,719 Speaker 5: they been doing it for a while. However, it just 735 00:39:03,840 --> 00:39:06,439 Speaker 5: is miss aligned because ain't no future in your front 736 00:39:06,440 --> 00:39:09,520 Speaker 5: and Robin, to quote the great mc breed, you are 737 00:39:09,800 --> 00:39:15,440 Speaker 5: a person who literally has ran away from accountability, from 738 00:39:15,640 --> 00:39:18,759 Speaker 5: definitive speech and all of those things for years, so 739 00:39:18,880 --> 00:39:20,520 Speaker 5: much so you would't even get out the damn bed 740 00:39:20,960 --> 00:39:21,640 Speaker 5: on the camera. 741 00:39:21,840 --> 00:39:24,520 Speaker 4: Okay, and now you got the goal to try to 742 00:39:24,560 --> 00:39:27,480 Speaker 4: demand that from Karen. It's just not right. That's all. 743 00:39:29,760 --> 00:39:31,080 Speaker 2: Apollonia, Jordan. 744 00:39:35,040 --> 00:39:38,840 Speaker 3: I'll have a different stance because, as someone that speaks 745 00:39:38,880 --> 00:39:41,239 Speaker 3: on other people's lives for a living, if I had 746 00:39:41,320 --> 00:39:44,959 Speaker 3: to qualify what I can and kinnot say about someone 747 00:39:45,080 --> 00:39:47,319 Speaker 3: based on whether my life has been perfect or if 748 00:39:47,360 --> 00:39:49,759 Speaker 3: I made good choices, I probably would't have a shit 749 00:39:49,800 --> 00:39:50,560 Speaker 3: to say about anyone. 750 00:39:50,880 --> 00:39:52,120 Speaker 4: Well, two things will be. 751 00:39:52,120 --> 00:39:54,319 Speaker 3: True at the same time. I think that you can 752 00:39:54,600 --> 00:39:56,480 Speaker 3: have had a fucked up pass or you could have 753 00:39:56,480 --> 00:39:59,760 Speaker 3: made your mistakes, hence why you can actually now speak 754 00:39:59,800 --> 00:40:03,200 Speaker 3: onccountability once upon a time you weren't. And I'm maybe 755 00:40:03,239 --> 00:40:05,239 Speaker 3: I'm a little more open minded or call a naive. 756 00:40:05,320 --> 00:40:08,399 Speaker 3: I actually, you know, I know a lot of people 757 00:40:08,400 --> 00:40:10,719 Speaker 3: don't like Robin. I love how she's shown up on 758 00:40:10,800 --> 00:40:12,759 Speaker 3: this podcast, you know what I mean, And I kind 759 00:40:12,800 --> 00:40:15,200 Speaker 3: of I love that. I love that she's like, you 760 00:40:15,280 --> 00:40:16,840 Speaker 3: know what, I know, people probably gonna come for me 761 00:40:16,920 --> 00:40:19,880 Speaker 3: because of my past and me not being held accountable 762 00:40:19,920 --> 00:40:22,560 Speaker 3: and me not be taking accountability. But even with that 763 00:40:22,640 --> 00:40:25,120 Speaker 3: being said, I'm still going to stand on business of 764 00:40:25,200 --> 00:40:27,719 Speaker 3: what I think about this situation because the podcast, the 765 00:40:27,800 --> 00:40:30,160 Speaker 3: subject was not about her. It's not about her on 766 00:40:30,239 --> 00:40:31,520 Speaker 3: want It's not about how he let her, she let 767 00:40:31,600 --> 00:40:33,440 Speaker 3: him play in her face. It's none of that and 768 00:40:33,600 --> 00:40:33,840 Speaker 3: none of. 769 00:40:33,920 --> 00:40:36,279 Speaker 7: Us, Claudia, you still worked it in because you're a 770 00:40:36,320 --> 00:40:39,000 Speaker 7: good podcast host, so podcast host, even Joe, all the 771 00:40:39,040 --> 00:40:39,960 Speaker 7: podcasters will say. 772 00:40:40,120 --> 00:40:42,160 Speaker 6: I know it's rich coming from me, y'all, but I 773 00:40:42,239 --> 00:40:42,640 Speaker 6: should know. 774 00:40:42,960 --> 00:40:43,839 Speaker 2: You just did it right there. 775 00:40:43,920 --> 00:40:45,160 Speaker 6: You just did the thing that she didn't do. 776 00:40:45,440 --> 00:40:47,800 Speaker 3: I did. But I guess I'm a little less judge 777 00:40:47,960 --> 00:40:51,720 Speaker 3: because I've asked people to forgive things of my past 778 00:40:51,920 --> 00:40:54,880 Speaker 3: and my past and not look at me as you 779 00:40:55,000 --> 00:40:57,320 Speaker 3: are not qualified to speak on a B and C 780 00:40:57,560 --> 00:41:00,279 Speaker 3: because once upon a time you did this and all 781 00:41:00,400 --> 00:41:02,760 Speaker 3: that they could be that like, we can have more grace. 782 00:41:03,040 --> 00:41:05,640 Speaker 3: I do understand, and I don't again. I'm just coming 783 00:41:05,719 --> 00:41:10,320 Speaker 3: on this season, okay, right there, I am, I'm fresh eyes, 784 00:41:10,520 --> 00:41:12,920 Speaker 3: and and my only experience with her is I went 785 00:41:13,280 --> 00:41:15,160 Speaker 3: for drinks with her after watch What Happens Live. I 786 00:41:15,360 --> 00:41:19,799 Speaker 3: liked her because I'm not a message from the show. 787 00:41:19,880 --> 00:41:22,839 Speaker 3: I'm not mad from the show. I also understand people 788 00:41:23,040 --> 00:41:25,719 Speaker 3: hating you or not liking you based on your time 789 00:41:25,800 --> 00:41:26,600 Speaker 3: on a reality show. 790 00:41:27,920 --> 00:41:30,880 Speaker 4: In this case specifically, it's relevant. 791 00:41:31,280 --> 00:41:33,680 Speaker 5: And that's the only thing because I'm with you Claudia, Literally, 792 00:41:33,760 --> 00:41:36,680 Speaker 5: we're in the business of opinion and people are not 793 00:41:36,719 --> 00:41:38,200 Speaker 5: always going to like what we have to say, and 794 00:41:38,280 --> 00:41:39,919 Speaker 5: some people will feel like we don't have a place 795 00:41:39,960 --> 00:41:43,840 Speaker 5: to even form an opinion. Right, But with Robin Dixon 796 00:41:44,239 --> 00:41:48,080 Speaker 5: speaking on another cast member from Potomac, her history and 797 00:41:48,160 --> 00:41:51,080 Speaker 5: her time on the show now becomes relevant to the conversation, 798 00:41:51,680 --> 00:41:55,040 Speaker 5: and in her case specifically, it was so extreme, the 799 00:41:55,200 --> 00:42:00,600 Speaker 5: effort to circumvent accountability was so extreme and so blatant 800 00:42:00,640 --> 00:42:04,200 Speaker 5: on her behalf. Knowing you as a person, Claudia, had 801 00:42:04,280 --> 00:42:06,840 Speaker 5: you watched the previous seasons of R H O P, 802 00:42:07,360 --> 00:42:11,080 Speaker 5: you would understand why people are like, I know, yo, ass. 803 00:42:12,400 --> 00:42:13,360 Speaker 4: You, you would get it. 804 00:42:13,880 --> 00:42:18,120 Speaker 5: But but from where your your perspective currently totally get it, 805 00:42:18,520 --> 00:42:19,560 Speaker 5: totally fair. 806 00:42:19,520 --> 00:42:20,880 Speaker 4: And actually agree with you. 807 00:42:21,440 --> 00:42:24,759 Speaker 5: My perspective is just different because I've seen her, I 808 00:42:24,880 --> 00:42:27,439 Speaker 5: know the history, and that's where that comes into play. 809 00:42:27,520 --> 00:42:30,520 Speaker 3: But yeah, and also and I see some of the comments, 810 00:42:30,560 --> 00:42:32,600 Speaker 3: I'm going to be on the side of the light skin, yes, 811 00:42:32,640 --> 00:42:41,440 Speaker 3: because I agree with everyone called. Okay, I will say this, 812 00:42:42,800 --> 00:42:45,239 Speaker 3: there is a difference to me. There's one thing, whether 813 00:42:45,560 --> 00:42:47,799 Speaker 3: she is personal to me, the way my husband's playing 814 00:42:47,840 --> 00:42:49,640 Speaker 3: in my face, embarrassing fuck out of me and how 815 00:42:49,719 --> 00:42:52,640 Speaker 3: I choose to handle that. That is different than speaking 816 00:42:52,719 --> 00:42:55,919 Speaker 3: on someone that could have killed many people. And that's 817 00:42:56,080 --> 00:42:57,000 Speaker 3: I just think it's different. 818 00:42:57,480 --> 00:42:57,960 Speaker 4: I really do. 819 00:42:58,640 --> 00:43:01,600 Speaker 3: I think it's apples oranges. Yes, accountability is accountability if 820 00:43:01,640 --> 00:43:03,480 Speaker 3: I do think it's two different things. And I actually 821 00:43:03,520 --> 00:43:06,240 Speaker 3: agree with everything she said about Karen, and I like Karen. 822 00:43:07,600 --> 00:43:10,080 Speaker 3: I like Karen. We are so happy that no one 823 00:43:10,239 --> 00:43:12,919 Speaker 3: was injured. We are so happy that no one got killed. 824 00:43:13,000 --> 00:43:14,840 Speaker 3: And you know, it's a what if thing, but we 825 00:43:14,960 --> 00:43:16,759 Speaker 3: are and we gotta, we gotta be really about that. 826 00:43:16,880 --> 00:43:18,440 Speaker 3: It could have gone really bad. And I think it's 827 00:43:18,440 --> 00:43:21,359 Speaker 3: a little more serious. We're letting someone where you could 828 00:43:21,360 --> 00:43:24,040 Speaker 3: have put people in harm's way, in death way than 829 00:43:24,320 --> 00:43:26,680 Speaker 3: a cheating asked man, a man that's playing your face 830 00:43:27,040 --> 00:43:29,879 Speaker 3: hotels receipts. I heard some stuff about it which I'm like, wait, 831 00:43:29,960 --> 00:43:33,960 Speaker 3: what so yeah, yeah, no, I'll. 832 00:43:33,840 --> 00:43:37,000 Speaker 1: Say this to listen, all of you guys make really 833 00:43:37,040 --> 00:43:41,239 Speaker 1: great points that I actually agree with. The thing that 834 00:43:41,440 --> 00:43:43,640 Speaker 1: I will give Robin is this, I love the fact 835 00:43:43,680 --> 00:43:47,879 Speaker 1: that Robin knows that she gets smoked easily. 836 00:43:47,560 --> 00:43:48,280 Speaker 2: From the audience. 837 00:43:48,719 --> 00:43:51,200 Speaker 1: Now, what I do love about her on this podcast 838 00:43:51,480 --> 00:43:55,759 Speaker 1: is it still hasn't prevented her from telling her truth 839 00:43:55,800 --> 00:43:59,680 Speaker 1: about her opinion. There's a lot of other Housewives, former 840 00:43:59,719 --> 00:44:05,160 Speaker 1: house Wise, What Current who are so afraid to state 841 00:44:05,800 --> 00:44:08,759 Speaker 1: their real opinion because they don't want the backlash, like 842 00:44:09,120 --> 00:44:13,920 Speaker 1: how came a show gathered her right, how Rob gathered Gazelle. 843 00:44:14,280 --> 00:44:16,319 Speaker 1: So I will always give Robin that. I think Robin 844 00:44:16,440 --> 00:44:19,759 Speaker 1: is a great podcast because she's honest. I also think this. 845 00:44:21,080 --> 00:44:26,040 Speaker 2: I'm I think Robin being removed from the show. 846 00:44:26,120 --> 00:44:28,839 Speaker 1: First of all, she was very honest about being fired. Yeah, 847 00:44:29,840 --> 00:44:32,600 Speaker 1: ninety eight percent of the girls who said they weren't they. 848 00:44:32,520 --> 00:44:35,880 Speaker 3: Were everyone be lying. Oh I chose to not go 849 00:44:36,080 --> 00:44:37,279 Speaker 3: back to. 850 00:44:37,360 --> 00:44:41,800 Speaker 2: Focus on my family. Your family was on the show. 851 00:44:41,960 --> 00:44:43,800 Speaker 3: Was eating out that eight hundred thousand dollars. 852 00:44:44,480 --> 00:44:47,360 Speaker 4: So I do think this. 853 00:44:48,600 --> 00:44:53,000 Speaker 2: I think if Robin ever got the chance and rain Drops. 854 00:44:52,760 --> 00:44:56,080 Speaker 1: Tell me what you think of the comments Dustin, you two, 855 00:44:56,239 --> 00:45:02,560 Speaker 1: especially Dustin, I I think if Robin got a second 856 00:45:02,719 --> 00:45:07,439 Speaker 1: chance of being on Potomac, I think the I think 857 00:45:07,640 --> 00:45:12,360 Speaker 1: Robin's firing humbled her and I think she understood what 858 00:45:12,560 --> 00:45:15,919 Speaker 1: she should have done. And I am curious to see 859 00:45:16,200 --> 00:45:18,880 Speaker 1: if she would be what Dustin and Blue are saying, 860 00:45:19,239 --> 00:45:23,040 Speaker 1: is are you going to hold yourself accountable and tell 861 00:45:23,200 --> 00:45:27,439 Speaker 1: us what's really happening in that household versus hiding getting 862 00:45:27,480 --> 00:45:28,000 Speaker 1: your payroll? 863 00:45:29,480 --> 00:45:32,839 Speaker 2: Okay, that was a quick vernon. 864 00:45:36,440 --> 00:45:38,040 Speaker 6: I was I was about to wait. 865 00:45:39,719 --> 00:45:41,680 Speaker 4: And we know it, we know it, we know it. 866 00:45:42,040 --> 00:45:43,440 Speaker 4: She's not and it's okay. 867 00:45:44,040 --> 00:45:47,040 Speaker 5: I appreciate her hot take on Karen and her on 868 00:45:47,200 --> 00:45:50,040 Speaker 5: Karen's interview, and I think she's doing a great job 869 00:45:50,200 --> 00:45:52,719 Speaker 5: having a pin and having something to say as a 870 00:45:52,800 --> 00:45:55,640 Speaker 5: podcast host, which is literally your fucking job, and I 871 00:45:55,719 --> 00:45:58,600 Speaker 5: think she's doing a good job at it. I'm with you, Claudia, 872 00:45:58,719 --> 00:46:02,680 Speaker 5: Like I love the fact that she is honest and 873 00:46:02,840 --> 00:46:07,480 Speaker 5: bold on her podcast. But she has shown us over 874 00:46:07,520 --> 00:46:09,439 Speaker 5: the course of what does she do eight or nine 875 00:46:09,520 --> 00:46:14,040 Speaker 5: seasons whatever it was, it was either eight or nine, 876 00:46:14,880 --> 00:46:19,040 Speaker 5: she showed us, you know, literally time and time again, 877 00:46:19,480 --> 00:46:21,360 Speaker 5: what she is going to do and what she's not 878 00:46:21,480 --> 00:46:23,440 Speaker 5: willing to do. And I just don't think there's anything 879 00:46:23,520 --> 00:46:26,560 Speaker 5: there to siphon from. I don't think there's anything there 880 00:46:26,600 --> 00:46:29,880 Speaker 5: for us to get any unearth any gems. 881 00:46:29,920 --> 00:46:31,440 Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying. We know what it is, 882 00:46:31,880 --> 00:46:32,680 Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying. 883 00:46:33,080 --> 00:46:36,279 Speaker 7: So I'm it's not people who grow until it's time 884 00:46:36,320 --> 00:46:39,800 Speaker 7: to admit what they did, like people who are so 885 00:46:40,040 --> 00:46:43,160 Speaker 7: evolved and so brave to Carlos's point, and sharing when 886 00:46:43,200 --> 00:46:44,799 Speaker 7: they know the honest is just waiting to get her again, 887 00:46:45,600 --> 00:46:47,920 Speaker 7: and they always stop short of the part where they 888 00:46:47,960 --> 00:46:52,400 Speaker 7: have to make themselves uncomfortable. I think that's heavily suspicious. 889 00:46:52,480 --> 00:46:54,919 Speaker 7: I actually think Claudia or your point made me feel 890 00:46:54,920 --> 00:46:56,240 Speaker 7: even more of what I was saying about. 891 00:46:56,800 --> 00:46:58,600 Speaker 6: Yes, there is a difference. 892 00:46:58,239 --> 00:47:02,719 Speaker 7: Between keeping what's happening in your household a secret from 893 00:47:02,800 --> 00:47:04,120 Speaker 7: putting people's lives in danger. 894 00:47:04,280 --> 00:47:07,880 Speaker 6: And though Robin was part of many schemes that Todd. 895 00:47:07,640 --> 00:47:10,759 Speaker 7: Did not set up that had an adverse impact on 896 00:47:10,920 --> 00:47:14,400 Speaker 7: people's homes in ways that were psychologically damaging. And so 897 00:47:14,760 --> 00:47:19,040 Speaker 7: it's like, if you have years of causing harm, years 898 00:47:19,160 --> 00:47:21,920 Speaker 7: of causing harm to me, years of causing harm in 899 00:47:21,920 --> 00:47:25,319 Speaker 7: people's households, and somebody doing what Karen did, even though 900 00:47:25,360 --> 00:47:28,320 Speaker 7: they shouldn't be compared, they're both incredibly impactful, like I 901 00:47:28,360 --> 00:47:30,359 Speaker 7: should I shouldn't have to shoot somebody in the face 902 00:47:30,400 --> 00:47:32,560 Speaker 7: for me to take accountability. I think the bar for 903 00:47:32,600 --> 00:47:35,880 Speaker 7: accountability is way too high, and the bar for pointing 904 00:47:35,920 --> 00:47:37,960 Speaker 7: the finger other people is way too low. There's a 905 00:47:38,040 --> 00:47:40,680 Speaker 7: gap in the way that her cognitive dissonance, where when 906 00:47:40,719 --> 00:47:45,400 Speaker 7: it's somebody else, Robin is so reasonable, she's so brave, 907 00:47:46,000 --> 00:47:48,520 Speaker 7: she's so clear when it's somebody else, and then this 908 00:47:48,680 --> 00:47:52,840 Speaker 7: minute'es on her, it's mumbos McGee. There's something inherently dishonest 909 00:47:52,920 --> 00:47:54,680 Speaker 7: in that. Now that I know that you're not stupid, 910 00:47:54,719 --> 00:47:56,160 Speaker 7: because for a couple of hours like she's just dumb, 911 00:47:56,440 --> 00:47:57,480 Speaker 7: apparently you're not dumb. 912 00:47:57,640 --> 00:47:59,719 Speaker 6: You've been smart this entire time, not even more mad. 913 00:48:00,160 --> 00:48:02,439 Speaker 5: Yeah, I never thought she was dumb. I always thought 914 00:48:02,480 --> 00:48:05,319 Speaker 5: she was completely aware of it, exactly what she was doing. 915 00:48:05,760 --> 00:48:09,319 Speaker 3: I will I understand what y'all both saying, And ask Stone, 916 00:48:09,320 --> 00:48:11,879 Speaker 3: who's been on three or four reality shows. It ain't 917 00:48:11,960 --> 00:48:14,520 Speaker 3: just Robin, it's most of these people. And that's why 918 00:48:14,520 --> 00:48:16,359 Speaker 3: I'm like, it's just hard for me to be like, oh, 919 00:48:16,520 --> 00:48:18,719 Speaker 3: Robin Robin when I'm like, I work with this one, 920 00:48:18,800 --> 00:48:20,680 Speaker 3: I work with that one. I've seen this one. I 921 00:48:20,800 --> 00:48:23,360 Speaker 3: seen fans not hold this one accountable because they like 922 00:48:23,480 --> 00:48:27,359 Speaker 3: this person. I seeing fans hold this one because they 923 00:48:27,400 --> 00:48:29,200 Speaker 3: don't like this person. And once they don't like you 924 00:48:29,360 --> 00:48:31,960 Speaker 3: everything you do is wrong in time ten and everything 925 00:48:32,040 --> 00:48:34,239 Speaker 3: their favorite does it's not so bad. Let's kip her 926 00:48:34,280 --> 00:48:36,080 Speaker 3: Poul Well, we gotta understand. And I don't like that. 927 00:48:36,280 --> 00:48:39,040 Speaker 3: That's the part that trick me where I'm like, yo, 928 00:48:39,200 --> 00:48:41,879 Speaker 3: because if you like the person, it ain't the same 929 00:48:42,160 --> 00:48:46,200 Speaker 3: standard of holding them accountable. And we see this. I'm 930 00:48:46,239 --> 00:48:48,239 Speaker 3: not even gonna name names because they're gonna say I'm behater, 931 00:48:48,480 --> 00:48:51,480 Speaker 3: but y'all already know. Y'all can pick a show, and 932 00:48:51,640 --> 00:48:54,040 Speaker 3: every single show there was someone that gets extra smoke, 933 00:48:54,760 --> 00:48:57,400 Speaker 3: someone that doesn't get enough. And that's the part that 934 00:48:57,520 --> 00:48:58,800 Speaker 3: hits me off, that irritates me. 935 00:49:00,360 --> 00:49:02,480 Speaker 2: I will say this, and I would want to tell 936 00:49:02,520 --> 00:49:03,160 Speaker 2: many episodes. 937 00:49:03,160 --> 00:49:04,480 Speaker 3: I need to go look at to see her being 938 00:49:04,480 --> 00:49:06,040 Speaker 3: on some bullshit and then maybe I can come back. 939 00:49:07,840 --> 00:49:10,360 Speaker 6: All right, Well, how did she act like you should 940 00:49:10,360 --> 00:49:13,839 Speaker 6: be fine? You changed your mind so much, accountability so much. 941 00:49:15,440 --> 00:49:19,160 Speaker 1: I will say this, and to Claudia's point, and I 942 00:49:19,239 --> 00:49:20,880 Speaker 1: think I've said this on this on this podcast. 943 00:49:20,880 --> 00:49:22,400 Speaker 2: I think I said it to you guys before. 944 00:49:24,200 --> 00:49:29,080 Speaker 1: If Gizelle did what Karen did, it will be a 945 00:49:29,560 --> 00:49:35,560 Speaker 1: different reaction from the audience. It would Gizelle if Gizelle 946 00:49:35,560 --> 00:49:37,480 Speaker 1: would not be able to hear the last of it. 947 00:49:38,120 --> 00:49:40,200 Speaker 1: So I do agree with Quality that when it comes 948 00:49:40,239 --> 00:49:44,840 Speaker 1: to some of the fans, you guys definitely pick and 949 00:49:44,920 --> 00:49:47,480 Speaker 1: choose which reality star you want to hold accountable. 950 00:49:48,000 --> 00:49:50,680 Speaker 2: They do nothing wrong in your eyes. They get away 951 00:49:50,719 --> 00:49:51,840 Speaker 2: with everything. 952 00:49:52,000 --> 00:49:56,800 Speaker 1: And but that's my pay and whatever, you know what, whatever. 953 00:49:57,000 --> 00:49:59,279 Speaker 1: But my point is, Claudia definitely ins fright about that. 954 00:49:59,520 --> 00:50:02,840 Speaker 1: Some of these fans have selective memory when it comes 955 00:50:02,880 --> 00:50:08,399 Speaker 1: to their fad doing some very dangerous things and y'all 956 00:50:08,520 --> 00:50:12,760 Speaker 1: still want them on the show. But when your fade, 957 00:50:13,440 --> 00:50:17,480 Speaker 1: may you know, be too mean to your whatever. 958 00:50:17,880 --> 00:50:18,680 Speaker 2: You want them fire. 959 00:50:18,880 --> 00:50:21,320 Speaker 1: But anyways, moving on to the best show in Bravo, 960 00:50:21,400 --> 00:50:31,320 Speaker 1: which is marriyt To Medicine. Y my opinion, Marraton Medicine 961 00:50:31,480 --> 00:50:34,440 Speaker 1: is the best show in Bravo. I've said it for years. 962 00:50:36,760 --> 00:50:37,480 Speaker 4: I just think. 963 00:50:39,120 --> 00:50:44,640 Speaker 1: The Maritime Medicine cast, in my opinion, is one of 964 00:50:44,840 --> 00:50:50,000 Speaker 1: the best cast of women on television to be twelve 965 00:50:50,160 --> 00:50:50,719 Speaker 1: seasons in. 966 00:50:51,719 --> 00:50:55,800 Speaker 2: They give so much to that show still and I 967 00:50:56,000 --> 00:50:58,200 Speaker 2: love everybody knows this. 968 00:50:58,280 --> 00:51:01,080 Speaker 1: I'm obsessed with this show. Now, I do want to 969 00:51:01,080 --> 00:51:03,759 Speaker 1: talk about the seating chart. Claudia, are you familiar with 970 00:51:03,880 --> 00:51:04,760 Speaker 1: Marition Medicine. 971 00:51:06,600 --> 00:51:11,800 Speaker 3: The cast somewhat. I watched most of your interview, Okay, 972 00:51:12,080 --> 00:51:12,840 Speaker 3: the last one and. 973 00:51:14,400 --> 00:51:15,840 Speaker 6: Yeah, we'll get in too. 974 00:51:15,920 --> 00:51:15,960 Speaker 4: That. 975 00:51:16,600 --> 00:51:21,840 Speaker 2: The biggest thing though is Dustin and Blue and Claudia. 976 00:51:21,960 --> 00:51:26,680 Speaker 1: There is a shift in Maritime Medicine because the reunion 977 00:51:26,800 --> 00:51:33,560 Speaker 1: seating chart was revealed and historically, this is the first time, 978 00:51:34,120 --> 00:51:39,680 Speaker 1: guys in twelve seasons that Jackie and Simone are not 979 00:51:40,040 --> 00:51:44,440 Speaker 1: in the first chair because the way Merriton Medicine seating 980 00:51:44,560 --> 00:51:49,360 Speaker 1: chart was. They love the fact that these female doctors 981 00:51:49,640 --> 00:51:51,960 Speaker 1: were the face of the show called Marthion Medicine. 982 00:51:52,280 --> 00:51:54,680 Speaker 2: They've had first chair since the inception of the show. 983 00:51:55,320 --> 00:51:56,680 Speaker 2: Beans have changed, guys. 984 00:51:57,320 --> 00:52:03,480 Speaker 1: First chair went to Toya Bush Harris and quad Web. 985 00:52:05,920 --> 00:52:09,680 Speaker 1: The other shocking thing is doctor Heaviley is a friend 986 00:52:09,800 --> 00:52:14,760 Speaker 1: to the show this season. She is sitting above doctor Mimi, 987 00:52:14,920 --> 00:52:19,400 Speaker 1: who is a full time cast member. Dustin, what were 988 00:52:19,480 --> 00:52:23,279 Speaker 1: her thoughts on this seating chart that really showed, well, 989 00:52:23,440 --> 00:52:27,080 Speaker 1: you guys probably can see it where it really showed 990 00:52:27,200 --> 00:52:30,280 Speaker 1: that Marthon Madison is doing something different. 991 00:52:30,480 --> 00:52:32,600 Speaker 2: And I for want am here for the change. 992 00:52:32,840 --> 00:52:33,920 Speaker 4: I'm here for the shakeup. 993 00:52:34,000 --> 00:52:36,520 Speaker 5: I'm one of the people who does believe that Doctor 994 00:52:36,600 --> 00:52:39,520 Speaker 5: Jackie and Doctor Simone need to be a part of 995 00:52:39,600 --> 00:52:42,960 Speaker 5: the mix, So I'm fine with them not sitting first chair. 996 00:52:43,160 --> 00:52:46,120 Speaker 4: I still want those ladies on the show, so let's 997 00:52:46,160 --> 00:52:47,720 Speaker 4: just get that up front. Okay. 998 00:52:48,640 --> 00:52:51,400 Speaker 5: Outside of that shout out to first chair, Quad, Baby, 999 00:52:51,600 --> 00:52:53,400 Speaker 5: you know what I'm saying. If I and if I 1000 00:52:53,560 --> 00:52:55,520 Speaker 5: was quiet, I would have made the motherfuckers call me 1001 00:52:55,640 --> 00:52:59,160 Speaker 5: Quadrilla all day. I'd of went by my governor pretty 1002 00:52:59,280 --> 00:53:02,800 Speaker 5: name Andria, okay, because you're in the first chair and 1003 00:53:02,880 --> 00:53:04,640 Speaker 5: you're presiding in that way. 1004 00:53:05,000 --> 00:53:05,839 Speaker 4: So it was good. 1005 00:53:05,920 --> 00:53:09,439 Speaker 5: And as a day one, season one, episode one fight 1006 00:53:09,560 --> 00:53:12,920 Speaker 5: by the pool between Toya and Mariah watch or viewer 1007 00:53:13,120 --> 00:53:16,759 Speaker 5: married to medicine, I was happy to see Quad in 1008 00:53:17,000 --> 00:53:17,799 Speaker 5: her first chare. 1009 00:53:18,280 --> 00:53:19,400 Speaker 4: I was happy to see that. 1010 00:53:19,880 --> 00:53:22,400 Speaker 5: So I'm looking forward to the reunion. It is my 1011 00:53:22,680 --> 00:53:28,520 Speaker 5: hope that doctor Mimi watched your incredible interview with Toya 1012 00:53:28,680 --> 00:53:32,520 Speaker 5: and Eugene Harris, because I really wanted doctor Mimi to. 1013 00:53:32,880 --> 00:53:35,600 Speaker 5: I really hope that when they film the reunion, doctor 1014 00:53:35,680 --> 00:53:38,719 Speaker 5: Mimi was able to be inspired by the comments that 1015 00:53:38,840 --> 00:53:42,280 Speaker 5: Toya made and cuts her ass out on the stage. 1016 00:53:42,320 --> 00:53:43,840 Speaker 4: So I really hope that that's what happened. 1017 00:53:44,920 --> 00:53:47,839 Speaker 3: Yeah, can I ask y'all like, okay again? 1018 00:53:48,920 --> 00:53:55,960 Speaker 1: First, Oh, okay, brain drops, don't tell about it's between us. 1019 00:53:56,160 --> 00:53:56,440 Speaker 2: Okay. 1020 00:54:00,239 --> 00:54:09,200 Speaker 8: I heard allegedly that my interview with Toya LaToya definitely 1021 00:54:09,360 --> 00:54:11,279 Speaker 8: had a lot to say gets. 1022 00:54:11,040 --> 00:54:15,920 Speaker 2: Brought up at the reunion and baby, oh. 1023 00:54:17,840 --> 00:54:20,000 Speaker 4: Wonderful, look at you doing the work? 1024 00:54:20,360 --> 00:54:21,160 Speaker 2: Well will. 1025 00:54:22,480 --> 00:54:22,520 Speaker 1: It? 1026 00:54:23,680 --> 00:54:27,200 Speaker 2: Toya earned her first chair, and I'm gonna have Claudia finished. 1027 00:54:27,239 --> 00:54:33,680 Speaker 1: I'll just say this claw Quad and Toya deserve first chair, 1028 00:54:34,600 --> 00:54:38,120 Speaker 1: and I think we're in for an amazing reunion. 1029 00:54:38,239 --> 00:54:41,360 Speaker 3: Or Claudia, look at college producing from outside the club 1030 00:54:42,400 --> 00:54:48,400 Speaker 3: can't even get in. Okay. So again, I'm not a 1031 00:54:48,520 --> 00:54:51,759 Speaker 3: history of Mariti medicine either. I just watched a lot 1032 00:54:51,800 --> 00:54:56,560 Speaker 3: of murder documentaries. Okay, that's either hearing nor that. So 1033 00:54:57,320 --> 00:54:59,760 Speaker 3: I've always heard about you know, Quad's got a big personality. 1034 00:54:59,760 --> 00:55:02,279 Speaker 3: This is her first time and all she's never been 1035 00:55:02,400 --> 00:55:05,080 Speaker 3: first chair. All you I like to hear about was 1036 00:55:05,160 --> 00:55:07,560 Speaker 3: Quad from marriage to medicine and she never did. What 1037 00:55:07,719 --> 00:55:09,319 Speaker 3: season do you think she should have had first chair? 1038 00:55:09,440 --> 00:55:10,680 Speaker 3: Is there a season you think she should have had 1039 00:55:10,760 --> 00:55:11,120 Speaker 3: first chair? 1040 00:55:11,400 --> 00:55:14,480 Speaker 5: Absolutely the season that her and her husband Greg broke up. 1041 00:55:16,280 --> 00:55:19,840 Speaker 5: There was the season where her and Mara was that 1042 00:55:19,920 --> 00:55:22,239 Speaker 5: season two when they were arguing, when Quid was like, 1043 00:55:22,320 --> 00:55:24,359 Speaker 5: this is not about a show, this is Mike life. 1044 00:55:24,719 --> 00:55:25,600 Speaker 4: What season was that? 1045 00:55:29,640 --> 00:55:31,799 Speaker 5: Okay, Well, that year she should have been first chair 1046 00:55:31,800 --> 00:55:35,239 Speaker 5: because she was the center of Well, I forgive me 1047 00:55:35,280 --> 00:55:36,360 Speaker 5: because I don't mean that. 1048 00:55:36,560 --> 00:55:38,480 Speaker 4: I don't mean she should have been first chair. 1049 00:55:39,080 --> 00:55:41,160 Speaker 5: It would have made sense if they were building a 1050 00:55:41,520 --> 00:55:45,040 Speaker 5: building it around the story that drove the season, it 1051 00:55:45,040 --> 00:55:47,359 Speaker 5: would have made sense for her to have the first chair. 1052 00:55:47,440 --> 00:55:49,319 Speaker 5: But I'm a motherfucker. I don't care where they sit. 1053 00:55:49,440 --> 00:55:51,040 Speaker 5: As long as you're on that stage, you can handle 1054 00:55:51,080 --> 00:55:53,760 Speaker 5: your business. We all just saw Drew Sider, your cousin 1055 00:55:53,840 --> 00:55:57,440 Speaker 5: Claudia literally leaning on the end of that couch tearing 1056 00:55:57,520 --> 00:56:00,279 Speaker 5: the ass up left and right at the last union 1057 00:56:00,360 --> 00:56:01,760 Speaker 5: for Atlanta season sixteen. 1058 00:56:01,920 --> 00:56:04,960 Speaker 3: So from lane eight, from lane eight to on the track. 1059 00:56:04,960 --> 00:56:09,760 Speaker 4: Lane eight for ours and Field Brethren and Sisty. 1060 00:56:10,239 --> 00:56:12,920 Speaker 5: But but I just so, I don't care. But I 1061 00:56:13,040 --> 00:56:14,839 Speaker 5: get it, you know what I'm saying. And I'm happy 1062 00:56:14,880 --> 00:56:18,279 Speaker 5: to see Quad in that seat Blue to loose man. 1063 00:56:18,960 --> 00:56:21,440 Speaker 6: I'm here's the thing. I love me an underdog. I 1064 00:56:21,560 --> 00:56:23,879 Speaker 6: know what it's like to have bitches mad just because 1065 00:56:23,880 --> 00:56:24,320 Speaker 6: you breathing. 1066 00:56:25,000 --> 00:56:28,760 Speaker 7: And so the fact that they have repeatedly and unsuccessfully 1067 00:56:28,880 --> 00:56:31,040 Speaker 7: tried to stay your coup against this young lady miss 1068 00:56:31,120 --> 00:56:33,759 Speaker 7: Quad and miss Quad miss Quad, the fact that I 1069 00:56:33,840 --> 00:56:36,360 Speaker 7: think Simon has more dreams about Quad than her husband, 1070 00:56:36,800 --> 00:56:40,920 Speaker 7: the fact that they are so bothered that even single Claude. 1071 00:56:40,560 --> 00:56:42,000 Speaker 6: Is like, she's still that girl. 1072 00:56:42,160 --> 00:56:44,880 Speaker 7: She's that girl, right, And her and Mariah were the 1073 00:56:45,000 --> 00:56:48,960 Speaker 7: foundation that Betty and Veronica if you will be early seasons, 1074 00:56:49,520 --> 00:56:51,600 Speaker 7: we literally the show was built on the backs of 1075 00:56:51,640 --> 00:56:54,200 Speaker 7: that friendship and then it kind of like expanded more. 1076 00:56:54,280 --> 00:56:54,400 Speaker 6: Right. 1077 00:56:54,480 --> 00:56:56,560 Speaker 7: So Quatter is a day one who they tried to 1078 00:56:56,640 --> 00:56:58,239 Speaker 7: yank by the ankles and pull out because they was 1079 00:56:58,280 --> 00:56:59,920 Speaker 7: hating on her for having too much shine, and she 1080 00:57:00,200 --> 00:57:02,239 Speaker 7: came back swinging with a whole new nigga. 1081 00:57:02,360 --> 00:57:02,440 Speaker 4: Right. 1082 00:57:02,680 --> 00:57:06,600 Speaker 7: So I just think Quad deserves everything on this franchise. 1083 00:57:07,320 --> 00:57:09,560 Speaker 7: I love that the thing is changing from you have 1084 00:57:09,680 --> 00:57:12,239 Speaker 7: to be a doctor in order to be No. Toy, 1085 00:57:12,400 --> 00:57:14,880 Speaker 7: by the way, is who I think actually was trying 1086 00:57:14,920 --> 00:57:18,360 Speaker 7: to be. I think how Toya shows up and she 1087 00:57:18,520 --> 00:57:22,000 Speaker 7: stirs the pot and she has these moments. I think 1088 00:57:22,080 --> 00:57:24,160 Speaker 7: some people think that stirring the pot is an easy thing. 1089 00:57:24,520 --> 00:57:26,480 Speaker 7: Not everybody's meant to be a bone collector. I think 1090 00:57:26,600 --> 00:57:30,240 Speaker 7: Toya the way that she keeps the show moving is 1091 00:57:30,320 --> 00:57:33,800 Speaker 7: clearly for the show, and also we believe it's her personality. 1092 00:57:33,880 --> 00:57:36,320 Speaker 7: We actually believe that this is her and she's willing 1093 00:57:36,360 --> 00:57:38,880 Speaker 7: to be messy, and she's brave. Is she's self indulgent. 1094 00:57:38,880 --> 00:57:40,680 Speaker 7: We're getting to that later when we talk about her marriage. 1095 00:57:41,080 --> 00:57:44,080 Speaker 7: But it's all great television. I don't ever say e 1096 00:57:44,240 --> 00:57:45,960 Speaker 7: yuck to Toya. I might WinCE a little bit like 1097 00:57:46,000 --> 00:57:47,840 Speaker 7: oh you heard to say that, like that's this, But 1098 00:57:48,000 --> 00:57:50,440 Speaker 7: she's great television and I think her and Quad make 1099 00:57:50,600 --> 00:57:51,520 Speaker 7: all the sense in the world. 1100 00:57:51,640 --> 00:57:52,880 Speaker 6: More of this, give me fourteen more. 1101 00:57:53,600 --> 00:57:55,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a fantastic show. 1102 00:57:56,520 --> 00:57:59,360 Speaker 1: So last thing is, as we're talking about marrithon Medicine, 1103 00:57:59,520 --> 00:58:01,800 Speaker 1: I did it to be with Toya and doctor Eugene 1104 00:58:02,320 --> 00:58:03,240 Speaker 1: where they did. 1105 00:58:03,200 --> 00:58:05,360 Speaker 2: Speak on their marriage. 1106 00:58:07,200 --> 00:58:11,440 Speaker 1: This season, there was this epics scene where Toya and 1107 00:58:11,520 --> 00:58:15,280 Speaker 1: Eugene got to this big argument at their house. They 1108 00:58:15,320 --> 00:58:19,040 Speaker 1: were having a pretty much a poor party and shit 1109 00:58:19,160 --> 00:58:22,720 Speaker 1: hit the fan. In my conversation with Toya and Eugene, 1110 00:58:23,600 --> 00:58:27,960 Speaker 1: a lot of people do feel like Toya is not 1111 00:58:28,080 --> 00:58:31,360 Speaker 1: attracted to Eugene. A lot of people feel that Toya 1112 00:58:32,120 --> 00:58:37,880 Speaker 1: doesn't deserve Eugene, that she's mean to him, that you know, 1113 00:58:38,000 --> 00:58:40,360 Speaker 1: this man works for the Bone to provide a lifestyle 1114 00:58:40,440 --> 00:58:44,800 Speaker 1: for her, and how he did buck up on her. 1115 00:58:46,320 --> 00:58:49,920 Speaker 1: They appreciated that, and Toya said it was a double 1116 00:58:50,000 --> 00:58:56,360 Speaker 1: standard because if because God forbid, we're we're promoting a 1117 00:58:56,520 --> 00:58:58,800 Speaker 1: man bucking up on any woman, it's not okay. 1118 00:58:59,360 --> 00:59:02,920 Speaker 2: But one thing Foya did say is she has a knowledge. 1119 00:59:03,000 --> 00:59:07,360 Speaker 1: The fact that she is somebody who speaks to her 1120 00:59:07,440 --> 00:59:10,640 Speaker 1: man crazy because she didn't have a voice growing up, 1121 00:59:11,160 --> 00:59:13,320 Speaker 1: and that's just who she shows up in her dulhood. 1122 00:59:13,840 --> 00:59:16,040 Speaker 1: Starting with Dustin Ross, who left the comment on my 1123 00:59:16,160 --> 00:59:19,720 Speaker 1: page Sunday afternoon, I would love to hear your thoughts 1124 00:59:19,880 --> 00:59:22,680 Speaker 1: on do you think when it comes to Toya and 1125 00:59:22,800 --> 00:59:23,520 Speaker 1: Eugene that. 1126 00:59:25,600 --> 00:59:27,640 Speaker 2: Toya made a lot of points or do you think 1127 00:59:27,720 --> 00:59:28,640 Speaker 2: she still doesn't get it? 1128 00:59:30,680 --> 00:59:35,240 Speaker 4: Toya, please, okay, just like I said. 1129 00:59:35,040 --> 00:59:39,280 Speaker 5: In your comment section number one, the fact that she 1130 00:59:39,520 --> 00:59:41,880 Speaker 5: answered that question that you asked her, you laid it 1131 00:59:41,960 --> 00:59:46,400 Speaker 5: out and you said, I'm telling you this with kindness, okay, 1132 00:59:46,520 --> 00:59:48,880 Speaker 5: And it was sincere you said. This is the takeaway 1133 00:59:49,200 --> 00:59:51,920 Speaker 5: that people have from the show and for her response, 1134 00:59:52,040 --> 00:59:53,440 Speaker 5: her rebuttal. 1135 00:59:53,080 --> 00:59:55,800 Speaker 4: To be for her take to even be. 1136 00:59:56,640 --> 01:00:00,800 Speaker 5: You know what I wish if I'm tripping, then what 1137 01:00:01,000 --> 01:00:04,280 Speaker 5: you can't do is meet me tripping, because then it 1138 01:00:04,320 --> 01:00:05,160 Speaker 5: ain't gonna work out. 1139 01:00:05,680 --> 01:00:07,720 Speaker 4: And it's a double standard because how can they be 1140 01:00:07,800 --> 01:00:10,440 Speaker 4: happy about him meeting me tripping because I was tripping. 1141 01:00:10,840 --> 01:00:15,360 Speaker 4: Shut the fuck up. Everything you saying is ridiculous right now. 1142 01:00:15,840 --> 01:00:18,560 Speaker 4: I love Toya on that show. I think Toya is 1143 01:00:18,800 --> 01:00:23,160 Speaker 4: a part of the driving force, the bloodline. 1144 01:00:22,520 --> 01:00:25,600 Speaker 5: The heartbeat, the pulsel mary to medicine. But what we're 1145 01:00:25,680 --> 01:00:30,080 Speaker 5: not gonna do is act like what she did was okay, 1146 01:00:30,680 --> 01:00:33,600 Speaker 5: like what she did like everybody else is out here 1147 01:00:33,720 --> 01:00:38,160 Speaker 5: crazy based on what she did. No, you were completely 1148 01:00:38,240 --> 01:00:40,440 Speaker 5: out of line, Toya talking to Eugene like you like 1149 01:00:40,520 --> 01:00:44,040 Speaker 5: you don't respect him on national television repeatedly. 1150 01:00:44,720 --> 01:00:45,520 Speaker 4: This last time. 1151 01:00:45,600 --> 01:00:48,560 Speaker 5: It was so bad because not only did she disrespect him, 1152 01:00:48,880 --> 01:00:51,440 Speaker 5: she disrespected the rest of the cast to call them 1153 01:00:51,440 --> 01:00:54,320 Speaker 5: all kinds of bitches and holes and shit and who 1154 01:00:54,440 --> 01:00:57,000 Speaker 5: knows what else we didn't even see on camera. Toya 1155 01:00:57,160 --> 01:01:01,720 Speaker 5: was tripping, and to me, the reason i'll i'll responded 1156 01:01:01,800 --> 01:01:03,720 Speaker 5: because you know, I'll be trying to comment on shit, 1157 01:01:04,040 --> 01:01:06,320 Speaker 5: but I couldn't help it. Once I saw that, I 1158 01:01:06,480 --> 01:01:12,000 Speaker 5: was like, please, because like, you're obviously blowing smoke up 1159 01:01:12,040 --> 01:01:12,400 Speaker 5: our ass. 1160 01:01:12,600 --> 01:01:15,240 Speaker 4: Toya is a smart woman. She's a college graduate and. 1161 01:01:15,280 --> 01:01:18,720 Speaker 5: She's from fucking Detroit, so I know, you get the way, 1162 01:01:18,840 --> 01:01:22,120 Speaker 5: you get the minutia of all of this, you know 1163 01:01:22,240 --> 01:01:25,400 Speaker 5: what's going on. Toya knows that she was talking out 1164 01:01:25,440 --> 01:01:28,560 Speaker 5: the side of her neck to Eugene. She knows she 1165 01:01:28,800 --> 01:01:31,920 Speaker 5: was wrong, and instead of just saying, hey, I got upset, 1166 01:01:32,400 --> 01:01:34,840 Speaker 5: I love my man. We're gonna be all right, and 1167 01:01:34,880 --> 01:01:37,800 Speaker 5: I'm gonna work on talking to him in a way 1168 01:01:37,880 --> 01:01:41,120 Speaker 5: that honors him and shows the respect and the reverence 1169 01:01:41,160 --> 01:01:42,480 Speaker 5: I do have for my husband. 1170 01:01:42,760 --> 01:01:44,960 Speaker 4: If she would have said that, totally different takeaway. But 1171 01:01:45,000 --> 01:01:46,360 Speaker 4: what did she do on. 1172 01:01:46,760 --> 01:01:52,440 Speaker 5: See So I feel it's a double standard. She started 1173 01:01:52,520 --> 01:01:54,400 Speaker 5: doing all of that shit, you know what I'm saying, 1174 01:01:54,480 --> 01:01:59,360 Speaker 5: and nobody she's full of it. Toya's full of shit 1175 01:01:59,560 --> 01:02:02,440 Speaker 5: and she love her on the show. Don't think she's 1176 01:02:02,480 --> 01:02:06,200 Speaker 5: a bad human being, but her take on that was 1177 01:02:06,280 --> 01:02:07,800 Speaker 5: full of shit, and she knows it. 1178 01:02:11,160 --> 01:02:13,439 Speaker 3: I think when you do a reality show with someone 1179 01:02:13,480 --> 01:02:15,960 Speaker 3: that you love, when you say you love you are 1180 01:02:16,040 --> 01:02:19,760 Speaker 3: responsible to protect them because you being the star on 1181 01:02:19,840 --> 01:02:22,200 Speaker 3: that show and your husband is a supporting character, with 1182 01:02:22,320 --> 01:02:28,000 Speaker 3: you right to demean them, to be out of pocket, 1183 01:02:28,160 --> 01:02:30,080 Speaker 3: like you got to be extra on your p's and keys. 1184 01:02:30,200 --> 01:02:33,040 Speaker 3: Because it may not be as bad as it looks 1185 01:02:33,120 --> 01:02:35,600 Speaker 3: to us in real life, I guess, so we see 1186 01:02:35,600 --> 01:02:39,560 Speaker 3: it as real bad time. Ten. Now you have everybody 1187 01:02:39,560 --> 01:02:41,560 Speaker 3: speaking on your relationship, and even when you patch it 1188 01:02:41,680 --> 01:02:44,160 Speaker 3: up with them and say sorry privately, you know we 1189 01:02:44,320 --> 01:02:48,200 Speaker 3: still look at it like you emasculate your man and Toya, 1190 01:02:48,360 --> 01:02:51,600 Speaker 3: I think you you know obviously you're a great at reality, 1191 01:02:52,160 --> 01:02:54,640 Speaker 3: but at this point you should know that you should 1192 01:02:54,720 --> 01:02:56,520 Speaker 3: know better that you can't really do that to your 1193 01:02:56,600 --> 01:02:58,960 Speaker 3: guy because it leaves a door open. You know how 1194 01:02:59,000 --> 01:03:00,680 Speaker 3: many thirsty girls want to probably get up in his 1195 01:03:00,760 --> 01:03:02,720 Speaker 3: DMS and be like you deserve to be treated better. 1196 01:03:03,000 --> 01:03:04,919 Speaker 3: You shouldn't let her treat you like that. And after 1197 01:03:04,920 --> 01:03:07,480 Speaker 3: a while, you know he can only at first and 1198 01:03:07,600 --> 01:03:09,760 Speaker 3: be like I stopped. But after a while it might 1199 01:03:09,800 --> 01:03:11,120 Speaker 3: be one of them days where you go too far. 1200 01:03:11,600 --> 01:03:14,120 Speaker 3: He might check those dms. Hopefully he never does, but 1201 01:03:14,160 --> 01:03:15,680 Speaker 3: I'm just saying I just don't want you to go 1202 01:03:15,720 --> 01:03:17,840 Speaker 3: down that slippery So because I hate seeing people break up, 1203 01:03:17,960 --> 01:03:19,720 Speaker 3: I really do. And he seems like he's a good 1204 01:03:19,720 --> 01:03:21,880 Speaker 3: guy and a lot of patients as well. 1205 01:03:22,960 --> 01:03:28,200 Speaker 7: So Blue meaning, well, you guys might remember me and 1206 01:03:28,240 --> 01:03:31,560 Speaker 7: Claudia did some role play as Toya and Eugene, so 1207 01:03:31,680 --> 01:03:33,280 Speaker 7: I feel like we have extra remember that. 1208 01:03:34,880 --> 01:03:41,720 Speaker 6: Yeah again, I was just no because I feel like 1209 01:03:41,720 --> 01:03:42,760 Speaker 6: it should be Eugene leaving. 1210 01:03:42,800 --> 01:03:44,680 Speaker 7: I'm like, I'm leaving you bitch, Like I don't feel 1211 01:03:44,680 --> 01:03:47,560 Speaker 7: like I'm I'm on the mindset for them to stay together. 1212 01:03:47,560 --> 01:03:49,520 Speaker 7: If we play again, I would say this, I'm the 1213 01:03:49,560 --> 01:03:54,280 Speaker 7: first person to speak out against internalized massogyny and the patriarchy. 1214 01:03:54,280 --> 01:03:56,560 Speaker 6: I'm one of them girls, right la, Toya, I. 1215 01:03:56,600 --> 01:03:59,840 Speaker 7: Agree with us this and bullshit respecting your partner's gender 1216 01:03:59,840 --> 01:04:02,920 Speaker 7: and you can't do the whole gender thing on something 1217 01:04:02,960 --> 01:04:05,240 Speaker 7: as basic as respecting your partner in public? 1218 01:04:05,320 --> 01:04:07,600 Speaker 6: Like are you serious? The bars in hell? Toya, Like, 1219 01:04:07,680 --> 01:04:09,720 Speaker 6: can we stop? I love that you tried to do 1220 01:04:09,760 --> 01:04:11,520 Speaker 6: the whole Yes, I'm gonna get the who runs the world? 1221 01:04:11,640 --> 01:04:12,080 Speaker 3: Girls know? 1222 01:04:12,320 --> 01:04:12,640 Speaker 6: Toya? 1223 01:04:12,920 --> 01:04:15,720 Speaker 7: What happened was you were caught with your slip showing 1224 01:04:16,160 --> 01:04:18,840 Speaker 7: you act like a hot mess. You disrespected everybody within 1225 01:04:18,920 --> 01:04:20,440 Speaker 7: a five mile radius. 1226 01:04:20,600 --> 01:04:23,520 Speaker 6: And then you said be better than me, Eugene, Well, 1227 01:04:23,520 --> 01:04:25,240 Speaker 6: why can't you be somebody that you're proud of? Like, 1228 01:04:25,280 --> 01:04:27,280 Speaker 6: why does he have to be better than you? There's 1229 01:04:27,320 --> 01:04:29,840 Speaker 6: something that's actually ironically. 1230 01:04:29,320 --> 01:04:33,880 Speaker 7: The double standard, and I think Toya probably needs to 1231 01:04:34,360 --> 01:04:39,760 Speaker 7: recognize that her desire to be heard sometimes overshadows her 1232 01:04:39,800 --> 01:04:43,640 Speaker 7: desire to keep people that she loves safe. And to 1233 01:04:43,760 --> 01:04:47,800 Speaker 7: Claudia's point, right now, Eugene is still letting you take 1234 01:04:47,840 --> 01:04:50,439 Speaker 7: the big piece of chicken. But if the right bitch 1235 01:04:50,560 --> 01:04:53,120 Speaker 7: on the wrong day slips to his DMS and said, 1236 01:04:53,160 --> 01:04:55,200 Speaker 7: I'll make you a sandwich, I'll never yell at you 1237 01:04:55,280 --> 01:04:58,160 Speaker 7: in public. You don't even want to give somebody that opportunity. 1238 01:04:58,280 --> 01:05:01,560 Speaker 7: I don't think she fully recognizes it how dangerous her 1239 01:05:01,600 --> 01:05:03,040 Speaker 7: behavior is to her marriage. 1240 01:05:03,400 --> 01:05:05,760 Speaker 6: She's so used to him always bouncing back. 1241 01:05:06,120 --> 01:05:07,680 Speaker 4: At some point his niece are going to give out 1242 01:05:08,920 --> 01:05:11,280 Speaker 4: and I'm sorry, go Ahea his sister. 1243 01:05:11,600 --> 01:05:15,080 Speaker 3: One line, it's one thing doing it in private, which 1244 01:05:15,160 --> 01:05:18,080 Speaker 3: is not good, but it's ten times worse when you 1245 01:05:18,160 --> 01:05:20,200 Speaker 3: do it on TV, because that means, yeah, I'm doing 1246 01:05:20,280 --> 01:05:21,800 Speaker 3: it and I'm standing around it, and I don't give 1247 01:05:21,800 --> 01:05:23,760 Speaker 3: a damn who sees it because you know the cameras 1248 01:05:23,880 --> 01:05:25,320 Speaker 3: on you. You know we're going to talk about it. 1249 01:05:25,400 --> 01:05:27,120 Speaker 3: So it's like ten times more humiliating. 1250 01:05:27,160 --> 01:05:30,320 Speaker 4: I think the thing about it is, Eugene, don't give 1251 01:05:30,360 --> 01:05:33,360 Speaker 4: a fuck. Okay. I think that this is all of 1252 01:05:33,600 --> 01:05:35,640 Speaker 4: our take on the outside looking in. 1253 01:05:35,960 --> 01:05:38,400 Speaker 5: We all think that Toyo was talking to him crazy, 1254 01:05:38,520 --> 01:05:41,280 Speaker 5: and you know that that might amount to something. But 1255 01:05:41,600 --> 01:05:45,040 Speaker 5: in that interview when he came and joined Toya's interview 1256 01:05:45,520 --> 01:05:49,000 Speaker 5: with Carlos recently, he was defensive of her. 1257 01:05:49,360 --> 01:05:51,800 Speaker 4: He was making he was excusing her behavior. 1258 01:05:52,320 --> 01:05:55,840 Speaker 5: He was joining on to what the points that she 1259 01:05:56,040 --> 01:05:57,920 Speaker 5: was making in the ways that the things that she 1260 01:05:58,000 --> 01:05:59,520 Speaker 5: was trying to attribute her behavior to. 1261 01:06:00,000 --> 01:06:02,960 Speaker 4: He was supporting her, and all that his eyebrows were up, 1262 01:06:03,480 --> 01:06:05,040 Speaker 4: he was smiling with the clothes mouth. 1263 01:06:06,160 --> 01:06:08,000 Speaker 5: He was doing like that, you know what I'm saying, 1264 01:06:08,120 --> 01:06:11,840 Speaker 5: like literally agreeing with the things that she was saying. 1265 01:06:12,000 --> 01:06:16,080 Speaker 4: So Eugene, all right, Eugene, all right, he don't mind. 1266 01:06:16,760 --> 01:06:21,760 Speaker 5: He he was clear, clear in his support of her, 1267 01:06:22,280 --> 01:06:25,160 Speaker 5: clear in his messaging that we had it all wrong. 1268 01:06:25,800 --> 01:06:29,920 Speaker 5: They were evading and going around the clear picture that 1269 01:06:30,000 --> 01:06:34,120 Speaker 5: we all see his conviction to that to me, is noteworthy. 1270 01:06:34,400 --> 01:06:34,880 Speaker 4: You like it? 1271 01:06:35,160 --> 01:06:37,400 Speaker 5: I love it because I do love watching it on TV. 1272 01:06:37,560 --> 01:06:39,439 Speaker 5: Cuts his ass out, Toy, I don't give a fuck. 1273 01:06:39,480 --> 01:06:41,080 Speaker 4: He don't care. I don't give it. If what the 1274 01:06:41,160 --> 01:06:43,880 Speaker 4: young blood say, if you don't give a damn, we don't. 1275 01:06:44,160 --> 01:06:44,760 Speaker 6: I don't give. 1276 01:06:46,680 --> 01:06:48,840 Speaker 3: Women and they probably have a spicy sex like that. 1277 01:06:48,840 --> 01:06:49,680 Speaker 2: But he said that. 1278 01:06:49,920 --> 01:06:52,880 Speaker 1: So to your point, Dustine Claudable, you just said and 1279 01:06:53,000 --> 01:06:54,640 Speaker 1: Blue break this down for us. 1280 01:06:55,400 --> 01:07:01,720 Speaker 2: He did say, he said that Toya is the type 1281 01:07:01,720 --> 01:07:06,200 Speaker 2: of woman he likes. He doesn't. He likes a strong 1282 01:07:06,320 --> 01:07:09,280 Speaker 2: woman who talks a little crazy. He said he likes that. 1283 01:07:09,800 --> 01:07:13,680 Speaker 1: And he said he dated somebody before Toya who wasn't 1284 01:07:13,760 --> 01:07:16,240 Speaker 1: that she was the opposite of that, and it. 1285 01:07:16,280 --> 01:07:20,720 Speaker 2: Didn't work out. So I do think this what my 1286 01:07:20,920 --> 01:07:24,840 Speaker 2: takeaway from it was, I do want to say this. 1287 01:07:25,000 --> 01:07:27,439 Speaker 2: They are in couples therapy. They are they are going 1288 01:07:27,480 --> 01:07:28,439 Speaker 2: to counseling good. 1289 01:07:30,800 --> 01:07:34,360 Speaker 1: They decided to pick back up counseling based on this season. 1290 01:07:35,080 --> 01:07:37,560 Speaker 1: And one thing that she did say that I was like, 1291 01:07:37,760 --> 01:07:39,840 Speaker 1: I do get it, and I did have an aha 1292 01:07:39,960 --> 01:07:44,760 Speaker 1: moment she did talk about and I could say this 1293 01:07:44,920 --> 01:07:48,920 Speaker 1: as a producer. She said, look, the arguments we get 1294 01:07:49,000 --> 01:07:53,280 Speaker 1: into obviously were high, and because there's cameras around, and 1295 01:07:53,480 --> 01:07:56,720 Speaker 1: it's one of those things where you you do subconsciously 1296 01:07:56,920 --> 01:07:59,040 Speaker 1: just feel like you're about to talk to me like 1297 01:07:59,080 --> 01:08:02,120 Speaker 1: this on TV, and that TV camera does add something, 1298 01:08:02,440 --> 01:08:05,520 Speaker 1: not making excuses for it, but it was more so 1299 01:08:05,800 --> 01:08:10,560 Speaker 1: of the fact that she said she has to realize 1300 01:08:11,440 --> 01:08:16,479 Speaker 1: how to show up at the woman to her husband 1301 01:08:16,600 --> 01:08:21,040 Speaker 1: in real life and not be somebody on TV who 1302 01:08:21,160 --> 01:08:21,639 Speaker 1: was boring. 1303 01:08:22,280 --> 01:08:25,880 Speaker 2: And I thought that was very honest. So there's a 1304 01:08:25,920 --> 01:08:29,200 Speaker 2: lot of work to do. Blue here's the thing. 1305 01:08:29,280 --> 01:08:31,040 Speaker 6: I'm not trying to be a pessimist. 1306 01:08:31,240 --> 01:08:35,880 Speaker 7: It's just that a pretty significant group of my clienteles 1307 01:08:35,920 --> 01:08:38,360 Speaker 7: people who've been over married for over twenty years, so 1308 01:08:38,479 --> 01:08:40,400 Speaker 7: I deal particularly people who've been married for a couple 1309 01:08:40,439 --> 01:08:40,960 Speaker 7: of decades. 1310 01:08:41,439 --> 01:08:43,800 Speaker 6: And the thing that has always been like a. 1311 01:08:43,880 --> 01:08:45,800 Speaker 7: Thread for me when I'm dealing with these people is 1312 01:08:46,200 --> 01:08:49,080 Speaker 7: it was okay until it wasn't, because he didn't even 1313 01:08:49,080 --> 01:08:50,960 Speaker 7: know he wasn't okay with it until he wasn't right. 1314 01:08:51,439 --> 01:08:54,719 Speaker 7: And so someone can seem consistently okay with a certain 1315 01:08:54,720 --> 01:08:58,599 Speaker 7: behavior and then one day it seems like out of nowhere, 1316 01:08:58,680 --> 01:09:00,200 Speaker 7: but it wasn't out of nowhere. It was Bil holding 1317 01:09:00,280 --> 01:09:03,120 Speaker 7: up in the subconscious and moving its way up. And 1318 01:09:03,840 --> 01:09:05,280 Speaker 7: that's what makes me know you stay a couple of 1319 01:09:05,320 --> 01:09:06,920 Speaker 7: gup for twenty years. Like what you mean when Bobby 1320 01:09:06,960 --> 01:09:09,519 Speaker 7: broke up, Bobby loves you, Bobby got tired. That's why 1321 01:09:09,520 --> 01:09:11,599 Speaker 7: when you asked me earlier said he's I don't want 1322 01:09:11,640 --> 01:09:13,360 Speaker 7: him to get tired. It's not like he's going to 1323 01:09:13,400 --> 01:09:15,519 Speaker 7: be angry because he gives a damn. There's a point 1324 01:09:15,560 --> 01:09:17,320 Speaker 7: where and I'm gonna say this, I'm not gonna share 1325 01:09:17,320 --> 01:09:19,240 Speaker 7: too much of my business. I'm a spicy girl. I'll 1326 01:09:19,280 --> 01:09:21,880 Speaker 7: do things for the plot sometimes, Okay, I do things 1327 01:09:21,880 --> 01:09:24,439 Speaker 7: for the plot sometimes the men that I date, though 1328 01:09:24,760 --> 01:09:27,360 Speaker 7: they are much nicer than me. One could argue it's 1329 01:09:27,400 --> 01:09:30,160 Speaker 7: a Toya and Eugene situation. So this is friendly fire. 1330 01:09:30,800 --> 01:09:32,439 Speaker 7: My mother is the same way. The one thing she 1331 01:09:32,520 --> 01:09:35,080 Speaker 7: always told me is you can be spicy, you can 1332 01:09:35,160 --> 01:09:38,599 Speaker 7: be fun. Don't ever make him feel bad about himself. 1333 01:09:40,200 --> 01:09:42,519 Speaker 7: She's like, resentment is the one thing that even the 1334 01:09:42,680 --> 01:09:45,400 Speaker 7: kindest man who likes a spicy woman, if he has 1335 01:09:45,479 --> 01:09:47,639 Speaker 7: too much time to sit with it, it will eat 1336 01:09:47,680 --> 01:09:49,839 Speaker 7: away at him. So I don't mind her being spicy. 1337 01:09:50,120 --> 01:09:52,320 Speaker 7: I don't mind them having this fun little whatever that 1338 01:09:52,400 --> 01:09:56,320 Speaker 7: they have going on. Just be respectful while still doing. 1339 01:09:56,160 --> 01:09:56,560 Speaker 3: All of that. 1340 01:09:56,680 --> 01:09:58,960 Speaker 7: You don't have to rob somebody of their dignity to 1341 01:09:59,000 --> 01:10:01,240 Speaker 7: give them the excitement that looking for. You can actually 1342 01:10:01,240 --> 01:10:03,679 Speaker 7: be a respectful bitch. Ask me how I know, Claudia. 1343 01:10:03,680 --> 01:10:05,240 Speaker 7: I'm sure you figured out how to do that too, right. 1344 01:10:05,400 --> 01:10:07,000 Speaker 7: At a certain age, you have to figure out how 1345 01:10:07,040 --> 01:10:09,400 Speaker 7: to keep it spicy. But now you know the director process, 1346 01:10:09,479 --> 01:10:11,560 Speaker 7: so has the hit so toy. We're just saying we 1347 01:10:11,640 --> 01:10:13,920 Speaker 7: want your marriage to last. Be a little nicer to 1348 01:10:14,000 --> 01:10:15,559 Speaker 7: him before you knock upside the head. 1349 01:10:15,560 --> 01:10:16,920 Speaker 6: That's all. Just be a little nicer little. 1350 01:10:17,280 --> 01:10:20,839 Speaker 3: I wish I was in relationships as I am outside 1351 01:10:20,880 --> 01:10:23,120 Speaker 3: of relationship. I think I'm very nice in relationships. Maybe 1352 01:10:23,160 --> 01:10:24,679 Speaker 3: I need to stop being like Toya. 1353 01:10:27,840 --> 01:10:29,680 Speaker 4: What does it mean to be like Toya? How is? 1354 01:10:30,040 --> 01:10:30,080 Speaker 3: What? 1355 01:10:30,120 --> 01:10:32,080 Speaker 4: Would they shut the fuck up? 1356 01:10:32,240 --> 01:10:38,320 Speaker 3: Sown like say stuff like that. I'm gonna start saying 1357 01:10:38,360 --> 01:10:39,760 Speaker 3: stuff like when they asked me, maybe what do you 1358 01:10:39,800 --> 01:10:40,519 Speaker 3: wanna for your birthday? 1359 01:10:40,560 --> 01:10:40,720 Speaker 4: Bitch? 1360 01:10:40,760 --> 01:10:44,599 Speaker 3: You don't know By now, I'm gonna start saying the same. 1361 01:10:47,960 --> 01:10:50,479 Speaker 3: Be married in six months? Because all this, Oh I 1362 01:10:50,680 --> 01:10:53,240 Speaker 3: made Linguidian passive for you. Oh, I brought you with 1363 01:10:53,360 --> 01:10:55,360 Speaker 3: diamond chain? Oh do you want to go to Aruba? 1364 01:10:57,320 --> 01:10:59,360 Speaker 3: Clearly I need to stop being I know what. I 1365 01:10:59,479 --> 01:11:02,040 Speaker 3: take everything back, Toya, you do the right. Fuck what 1366 01:11:02,080 --> 01:11:04,759 Speaker 3: I'm saying. You don't one married on me? I almost 1367 01:11:04,760 --> 01:11:06,880 Speaker 3: not saying the funk when I just date this weekend? 1368 01:11:06,920 --> 01:11:07,640 Speaker 3: The fuck. 1369 01:11:09,040 --> 01:11:13,160 Speaker 1: I married for eighteen years, dated for two in order 1370 01:11:13,280 --> 01:11:17,960 Speaker 1: to score a date. When when when Eugene asked Toya 1371 01:11:18,000 --> 01:11:20,160 Speaker 1: out for a date, she said, I gotta do my 1372 01:11:20,280 --> 01:11:20,920 Speaker 1: turn paper. 1373 01:11:21,320 --> 01:11:22,880 Speaker 2: He did the term paper for her. 1374 01:11:23,520 --> 01:11:25,880 Speaker 6: Damn, it's a kid golf clap. 1375 01:11:26,800 --> 01:11:29,240 Speaker 2: And secondly, that's why I love you so Gene. 1376 01:11:29,360 --> 01:11:35,040 Speaker 1: Secondly, he gave her the keys to his apartment because 1377 01:11:36,200 --> 01:11:38,519 Speaker 1: her her place got robbed, and he said, you will 1378 01:11:38,560 --> 01:11:39,719 Speaker 1: never have to worry about that again. 1379 01:11:39,920 --> 01:11:42,000 Speaker 2: Here's the key to my place. You could you could be. 1380 01:11:43,720 --> 01:11:49,920 Speaker 5: Probably she probably scared the robbers off. Toy probably had 1381 01:11:49,960 --> 01:11:51,000 Speaker 5: the motherfucker's running. 1382 01:11:51,320 --> 01:11:56,360 Speaker 3: I had an epiphany. I take back all that soft 1383 01:11:56,360 --> 01:11:57,240 Speaker 3: shot I said earlier. 1384 01:11:57,880 --> 01:11:59,720 Speaker 6: No, Claudia, no, don't get to the dark. 1385 01:12:00,400 --> 01:12:02,680 Speaker 3: I said, I'm in my villain era of twenty twenty six, 1386 01:12:02,720 --> 01:12:03,680 Speaker 3: and I've been sticking with it. 1387 01:12:05,400 --> 01:12:05,800 Speaker 4: I've done. 1388 01:12:06,200 --> 01:12:09,400 Speaker 3: I've done the same thing since I got of dating. 1389 01:12:09,439 --> 01:12:14,840 Speaker 7: And Claudia, I saw you with your man and he 1390 01:12:15,000 --> 01:12:17,800 Speaker 7: was strong and tall and sexy, and you were so 1391 01:12:18,680 --> 01:12:20,720 Speaker 7: you were actually spicy, but you were a lady about it. 1392 01:12:20,800 --> 01:12:24,600 Speaker 7: It was very very respectful to Claudia. That's why I'm like, 1393 01:12:24,640 --> 01:12:26,160 Speaker 7: go far for this, yow. I've seen her a man. 1394 01:12:26,240 --> 01:12:29,240 Speaker 7: She was very respectable, she was very lovely. I was 1395 01:12:29,280 --> 01:12:30,520 Speaker 7: even taking notes. 1396 01:12:30,800 --> 01:12:34,439 Speaker 2: And Claudia, Toya. I believe it was born the same 1397 01:12:34,520 --> 01:12:38,080 Speaker 2: day as you, Claudia, but she is an aries anything, April. 1398 01:12:38,200 --> 01:12:41,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, aries, women are aries. People are a lot. I 1399 01:12:41,360 --> 01:12:43,200 Speaker 3: will say that aries matter the devil though. 1400 01:12:46,560 --> 01:12:49,040 Speaker 2: My wife breaks my heart at that leave my I 1401 01:12:49,160 --> 01:12:50,120 Speaker 2: love her evil at. 1402 01:12:53,760 --> 01:12:53,880 Speaker 3: Him. 1403 01:12:54,040 --> 01:12:56,960 Speaker 1: Right, We don't mean to we you know a lot 1404 01:12:57,040 --> 01:12:59,800 Speaker 1: of women, I mean a lot of a lot of 1405 01:13:00,520 --> 01:13:02,360 Speaker 1: like a little spice, you know. 1406 01:13:03,160 --> 01:13:08,200 Speaker 5: Yeah, nobody want to boring ass motherfucker going along to 1407 01:13:08,280 --> 01:13:08,800 Speaker 5: get it along. 1408 01:13:08,920 --> 01:13:11,280 Speaker 4: You definitely want to have some energy, you know what 1409 01:13:11,320 --> 01:13:11,720 Speaker 4: I'm saying. 1410 01:13:11,760 --> 01:13:14,800 Speaker 5: But that don't mean I want to be told, motherfucker, 1411 01:13:14,880 --> 01:13:16,160 Speaker 5: get my water, you know what I'm saying. 1412 01:13:20,280 --> 01:13:24,240 Speaker 3: That in the middle somewhere, maybe let's okay, let's throw 1413 01:13:24,400 --> 01:13:27,240 Speaker 3: out some good ways to talk to people. Some spicy 1414 01:13:27,400 --> 01:13:31,559 Speaker 3: but not mean, not evil, like like what, okay, where 1415 01:13:31,600 --> 01:13:32,120 Speaker 3: are you from? 1416 01:13:36,000 --> 01:13:37,960 Speaker 2: What are your goals and aspirations in life? 1417 01:13:38,720 --> 01:13:40,600 Speaker 3: Someone asked me that? Or you asked me that, no 1418 01:13:40,880 --> 01:13:46,000 Speaker 3: meaning on a day, nigga, you see me on TV already? 1419 01:13:46,720 --> 01:13:49,320 Speaker 3: What you mean aspirations? I'm fifty two, I'm in the 1420 01:13:49,360 --> 01:13:51,920 Speaker 3: fucking fourth quarter. Don't act like you don't watch them 1421 01:13:51,920 --> 01:13:52,200 Speaker 3: on the Price. 1422 01:13:52,320 --> 01:13:54,240 Speaker 6: It's not the fourth quarter. Don't do that to yourself. 1423 01:13:54,280 --> 01:13:54,640 Speaker 4: Free, no. 1424 01:13:57,720 --> 01:13:58,400 Speaker 3: Aspirations. 1425 01:13:58,439 --> 01:14:02,799 Speaker 2: What am I a rapper? Don't act like you to watch. 1426 01:14:04,320 --> 01:14:07,200 Speaker 3: I got at this point, everyone that's seen The Price 1427 01:14:07,320 --> 01:14:10,880 Speaker 3: is right dealing oldeal or Atlanta housewives. Don't act like 1428 01:14:10,920 --> 01:14:11,880 Speaker 3: you don't know who I am? 1429 01:14:12,160 --> 01:14:13,520 Speaker 4: Or next fifteen. 1430 01:14:15,280 --> 01:14:25,280 Speaker 5: Monday Night Live, Monday Night Live, accidently informed, wicked, awesome, so. 1431 01:14:25,400 --> 01:14:28,040 Speaker 4: Many things, so many things, and that's my thing, Like 1432 01:14:28,240 --> 01:14:29,040 Speaker 4: I didn't know who. 1433 01:14:28,960 --> 01:14:30,800 Speaker 3: The world I'm actually shut the fuck up? 1434 01:14:32,600 --> 01:14:32,840 Speaker 4: Okay? 1435 01:14:32,920 --> 01:14:34,360 Speaker 3: Could I do that to day? Is that bad? 1436 01:14:36,080 --> 01:14:36,320 Speaker 4: Little? 1437 01:14:36,320 --> 01:14:37,320 Speaker 2: Stop to though a little? 1438 01:14:37,640 --> 01:14:40,360 Speaker 3: Maybe, don't be a trucker, just maybe i'd be like Okay, 1439 01:14:40,560 --> 01:14:44,519 Speaker 3: ask the question again again, again, ask the. 1440 01:14:44,560 --> 01:14:50,000 Speaker 1: Same question different, So, Claudia, what's your goals and aspirations 1441 01:14:50,040 --> 01:14:50,439 Speaker 1: in life. 1442 01:14:53,360 --> 01:14:58,120 Speaker 3: That's cute. Oh they like that. 1443 01:14:58,320 --> 01:15:00,960 Speaker 6: That'll make a little king jump. They like everybody like that. 1444 01:15:02,000 --> 01:15:03,599 Speaker 2: This is this is wild. 1445 01:15:03,880 --> 01:15:07,639 Speaker 1: Well listen, Ray drops cash my interview with toy Eugene. 1446 01:15:07,640 --> 01:15:11,559 Speaker 1: It's on my YouTube channel. I'm not dropping an interview tomorrow. 1447 01:15:11,600 --> 01:15:14,559 Speaker 1: I want you guys to continue watching toy ye Eugene. 1448 01:15:16,000 --> 01:15:17,759 Speaker 3: You got some billins coming up. I heard. 1449 01:15:19,960 --> 01:15:22,080 Speaker 2: I do stay tuned. 1450 01:15:23,640 --> 01:15:25,920 Speaker 3: As a former journalist. Hey, Carlos. 1451 01:15:26,560 --> 01:15:29,880 Speaker 2: By the way, Claudia, I know two of your of 1452 01:15:30,000 --> 01:15:30,439 Speaker 2: your your. 1453 01:15:30,400 --> 01:15:35,040 Speaker 4: Folks, I know, good jobs, fucking bag. 1454 01:15:35,520 --> 01:15:37,599 Speaker 2: It's been good. Thank you, and I love you. Brother. 1455 01:15:37,840 --> 01:15:44,200 Speaker 6: I did another button button just now people know it fluctuates. 1456 01:15:44,240 --> 01:15:45,360 Speaker 6: How much did we get on the show? 1457 01:15:46,000 --> 01:15:47,800 Speaker 3: Is that zipp I love a zip down shirt. 1458 01:15:48,920 --> 01:15:49,719 Speaker 6: It's easy access. 1459 01:15:49,760 --> 01:15:53,040 Speaker 3: He going. So you could just be like what you're 1460 01:15:53,080 --> 01:15:54,160 Speaker 3: doing after the show, Carlos. 1461 01:15:54,400 --> 01:15:56,360 Speaker 6: Sometimes you know, I. 1462 01:15:56,439 --> 01:15:57,519 Speaker 2: Have a lot of work to do. 1463 01:15:57,880 --> 01:16:01,839 Speaker 4: I bet you work hard, work, work. 1464 01:16:03,960 --> 01:16:04,439 Speaker 2: So I'm good. 1465 01:16:06,000 --> 01:16:09,080 Speaker 6: Okay, you know what the supper was longer than you, sir. 1466 01:16:09,439 --> 01:16:15,800 Speaker 6: Please don't don't say twelve twelve minutes. It's just seventeen. 1467 01:16:16,439 --> 01:16:17,600 Speaker 3: What's as long as y'all done it? 1468 01:16:18,600 --> 01:16:22,880 Speaker 4: Oh, there was a weekend right where you take breaks, 1469 01:16:23,800 --> 01:16:25,880 Speaker 4: you know, and you get back to it. 1470 01:16:27,400 --> 01:16:29,040 Speaker 3: How many orgasms in one night? 1471 01:16:30,200 --> 01:16:30,479 Speaker 6: You said? 1472 01:16:30,520 --> 01:16:36,360 Speaker 3: What? How many orgasms? What's your record? Minus? Seven? 1473 01:16:37,600 --> 01:16:37,760 Speaker 1: Oh? 1474 01:16:38,640 --> 01:16:40,840 Speaker 6: Even were you on medication? What do you mean seven? 1475 01:16:41,520 --> 01:16:47,080 Speaker 6: I just got as a woman. Yeah, oh man, it's different. 1476 01:16:47,160 --> 01:16:49,360 Speaker 6: Y'all can do that, but it's different for us seven. 1477 01:16:49,760 --> 01:16:50,760 Speaker 3: I don't do it a lot, but when I do 1478 01:16:50,840 --> 01:16:52,040 Speaker 3: do it, I make up for lost time. 1479 01:16:52,520 --> 01:16:55,559 Speaker 6: Electoralized. I hope you like re uped afterwards. That sounds exhausting. 1480 01:16:55,760 --> 01:16:58,000 Speaker 3: Okay, oh yeah, Niggason broke their teeth and everything. 1481 01:16:58,840 --> 01:17:07,799 Speaker 2: Okay, we'll talk about another day. I see the women. 1482 01:17:08,720 --> 01:17:10,680 Speaker 4: We just we just we're just up here. 1483 01:17:11,200 --> 01:17:15,679 Speaker 3: No, no, no, I'm talking about how big Justin's Dustin's 1484 01:17:15,680 --> 01:17:19,519 Speaker 3: dickens and right, it was heavy, It was heavy. 1485 01:17:19,720 --> 01:17:20,880 Speaker 6: We talked about the can, the. 1486 01:17:20,960 --> 01:17:25,160 Speaker 3: Lights on can. Let's not. 1487 01:17:27,040 --> 01:17:30,400 Speaker 4: Look what we're speaking of. Basketball wives, Carlos, what say? 1488 01:17:33,080 --> 01:17:35,520 Speaker 3: Okay, Robin Dixon's not taking accountability. 1489 01:17:38,800 --> 01:17:39,559 Speaker 4: Look, and I mean. 1490 01:17:42,840 --> 01:17:45,799 Speaker 2: Kawana said ball. Baldy Baddie. 1491 01:17:46,040 --> 01:17:46,560 Speaker 4: I like that. 1492 01:17:47,280 --> 01:17:48,760 Speaker 3: So we're gonna do that after dark thing. 1493 01:17:49,600 --> 01:17:54,960 Speaker 1: Yes, check your emails this week, Baldy Baddy, thank you. 1494 01:17:56,920 --> 01:18:02,800 Speaker 1: We got Centurion as a whiteness always. 1495 01:18:02,479 --> 01:18:07,280 Speaker 5: Shows up, especially with Chris Bassett. That's what we ain't 1496 01:18:07,320 --> 01:18:12,160 Speaker 5: talking about, Chris Basket. Let's get into it before we 1497 01:18:12,240 --> 01:18:14,960 Speaker 5: get up out of here. We're gonna address that. First 1498 01:18:15,040 --> 01:18:20,480 Speaker 5: of all, Chris bass comfortable. He's too comfortable. 1499 01:18:20,880 --> 01:18:21,599 Speaker 4: It was no reef. 1500 01:18:21,680 --> 01:18:23,960 Speaker 5: For those who don't know, he tweeted, Oh my god, 1501 01:18:24,120 --> 01:18:26,880 Speaker 5: my sixteen month old son or however old their their 1502 01:18:27,000 --> 01:18:30,400 Speaker 5: their son? Is that him and Candice just had He 1503 01:18:30,520 --> 01:18:33,080 Speaker 5: said that his son just said the N word, clear 1504 01:18:33,120 --> 01:18:36,439 Speaker 5: as day, Chris. Chris did that. I believe it was 1505 01:18:36,520 --> 01:18:40,360 Speaker 5: the same day that Obama ship the White House released 1506 01:18:40,400 --> 01:18:44,840 Speaker 5: that horrible racist meme of the Obamas. Chris Bassett did that, 1507 01:18:45,840 --> 01:18:49,920 Speaker 5: tweeted that. Of course, people responded to it and they 1508 01:18:49,960 --> 01:18:54,080 Speaker 5: took issue with what he said. Chris Bassett's problem is 1509 01:18:54,160 --> 01:18:59,640 Speaker 5: that he's too comfortable. He is all way speaking on 1510 01:19:00,479 --> 01:19:04,439 Speaker 5: things relative to Candace and her business and entertainment, her 1511 01:19:04,560 --> 01:19:08,120 Speaker 5: experience on these shows. He speaks as if he was 1512 01:19:08,240 --> 01:19:10,200 Speaker 5: on cast it on the show. I've seen him tweet 1513 01:19:10,280 --> 01:19:12,560 Speaker 5: several times like, well, I just know about reunion. I 1514 01:19:12,640 --> 01:19:15,040 Speaker 5: know how reunions go, and so what they gonna do 1515 01:19:15,240 --> 01:19:17,439 Speaker 5: is this this? Like he just is always so eager 1516 01:19:17,520 --> 01:19:20,360 Speaker 5: and excited to have an opinion on the housewives. I 1517 01:19:20,560 --> 01:19:23,479 Speaker 5: was tired of seeing him filming that dingy ass white 1518 01:19:23,560 --> 01:19:26,599 Speaker 5: T shirt, sitting on the motherfucking couch all the time. 1519 01:19:26,960 --> 01:19:29,360 Speaker 5: Pick up a spoon and get in there with a 1520 01:19:29,439 --> 01:19:31,840 Speaker 5: pot in that kitchen and cook something. Since you're a 1521 01:19:32,000 --> 01:19:35,479 Speaker 5: chef and you have all these great talents as a chef, 1522 01:19:35,560 --> 01:19:37,519 Speaker 5: that's a great thing to celebrate. When we met him 1523 01:19:37,560 --> 01:19:40,160 Speaker 5: on the show, he was working in restaurants and doing 1524 01:19:40,200 --> 01:19:43,080 Speaker 5: his thing managing restaurants. That's a great career. I know 1525 01:19:43,120 --> 01:19:44,920 Speaker 5: a lot of people that have done that for a 1526 01:19:45,080 --> 01:19:47,800 Speaker 5: long time. That's a good thing to do. Show that, 1527 01:19:48,240 --> 01:19:52,120 Speaker 5: But that's sitting up in a baggy neck undershirt with 1528 01:19:52,360 --> 01:19:55,879 Speaker 5: apple juice stains on it, on the couch in Candace 1529 01:19:56,000 --> 01:19:57,240 Speaker 5: motherfucking house. 1530 01:19:57,400 --> 01:20:00,320 Speaker 4: And having an opinion on all of this shit to 1531 01:20:00,400 --> 01:20:00,760 Speaker 4: look bad. 1532 01:20:00,840 --> 01:20:04,479 Speaker 5: And what's happened is he's gotten too goddamn comfortable to 1533 01:20:04,600 --> 01:20:06,400 Speaker 5: the point where he thought it was a good idea. 1534 01:20:06,479 --> 01:20:09,680 Speaker 5: Since he's so excited to tweet and excited to have 1535 01:20:09,840 --> 01:20:12,000 Speaker 5: something to say, why did you need to share that 1536 01:20:12,080 --> 01:20:12,919 Speaker 5: with your audience. 1537 01:20:14,160 --> 01:20:16,320 Speaker 4: In February, Black. 1538 01:20:16,200 --> 01:20:20,160 Speaker 6: History People's Awareness Month, yes, I don't. 1539 01:20:19,960 --> 01:20:23,640 Speaker 4: Even think he was being malicious. I don't. I just 1540 01:20:23,720 --> 01:20:25,760 Speaker 4: think he was being extremely tone. 1541 01:20:25,520 --> 01:20:29,040 Speaker 5: Deaf, and I think that it is a direct result 1542 01:20:29,120 --> 01:20:32,160 Speaker 5: of him being too motherfucking comfortable tweeting on that couch 1543 01:20:32,200 --> 01:20:35,320 Speaker 5: about what Candace got going on. We're not your friends, 1544 01:20:35,560 --> 01:20:37,599 Speaker 5: we don't know you, we're not in a group chat. 1545 01:20:37,640 --> 01:20:39,559 Speaker 5: We don't need to know about your personal things that's 1546 01:20:39,600 --> 01:20:42,120 Speaker 5: going on in the house, and your white ass don't 1547 01:20:42,160 --> 01:20:45,760 Speaker 5: need to be tweeting about somebody quote saying the end word. 1548 01:20:46,840 --> 01:20:48,960 Speaker 4: You don't need to be doing that, even if it's 1549 01:20:49,000 --> 01:20:52,880 Speaker 4: your child. You don't. I'm sure Candas is a brilliant woman, 1550 01:20:53,040 --> 01:20:54,280 Speaker 4: a brilliant mind. 1551 01:20:54,439 --> 01:20:57,160 Speaker 5: And I would bet the farm on the fact that 1552 01:20:57,280 --> 01:21:00,120 Speaker 5: she had a very direct conversation with him about that. 1553 01:21:00,400 --> 01:21:02,400 Speaker 5: I don't think it'll ever make it to the timeline, 1554 01:21:02,479 --> 01:21:04,920 Speaker 5: nor should it, because it ain't our business. We shouldn't 1555 01:21:04,920 --> 01:21:07,640 Speaker 5: have even seen the damn tweety said. But I do 1556 01:21:07,880 --> 01:21:10,680 Speaker 5: believe that Candas is going to address it, and that's it. 1557 01:21:10,800 --> 01:21:13,800 Speaker 5: I'm tired of them baggy neck undershirts get up picking 1558 01:21:13,880 --> 01:21:16,599 Speaker 5: up a spoon and a bachelor and get in there 1559 01:21:16,640 --> 01:21:17,599 Speaker 5: and flip a patty. 1560 01:21:18,040 --> 01:21:20,160 Speaker 4: That's what you need to be doing. Thank you. 1561 01:21:22,240 --> 01:21:25,040 Speaker 3: I hate that this he did this, especially when she's 1562 01:21:25,120 --> 01:21:28,800 Speaker 3: kind of getting a rebirth, if you will, Like people 1563 01:21:28,880 --> 01:21:31,800 Speaker 3: are like really checking for her on the Traders and 1564 01:21:32,000 --> 01:21:34,200 Speaker 3: the tide is turning on her. People that didn't like 1565 01:21:34,280 --> 01:21:36,720 Speaker 3: her are calming around. They're realizing how big of a 1566 01:21:36,760 --> 01:21:38,680 Speaker 3: star she is in that show. They're loving her on 1567 01:21:38,760 --> 01:21:43,639 Speaker 3: that show, and it's like, it's like, damn, I'm doing good. 1568 01:21:43,720 --> 01:21:45,800 Speaker 3: We're getting kind of back into a better light. And 1569 01:21:45,840 --> 01:21:47,240 Speaker 3: then you do this, and I feel like that's something 1570 01:21:47,280 --> 01:21:49,040 Speaker 3: that could have been said for his group chat with 1571 01:21:49,120 --> 01:21:51,600 Speaker 3: his friends and not for us, because it's going to 1572 01:21:51,680 --> 01:21:56,559 Speaker 3: reflect on her and Chris. You know, I like them. 1573 01:21:56,640 --> 01:21:59,200 Speaker 3: I like Cannas a lot, and I hated that it 1574 01:21:59,240 --> 01:22:01,519 Speaker 3: kind of took away from with the good stuff she's 1575 01:22:01,560 --> 01:22:03,280 Speaker 3: doing because now it's like, now she had a dress 1576 01:22:03,320 --> 01:22:04,280 Speaker 3: and talk to us about this. 1577 01:22:04,360 --> 01:22:06,680 Speaker 6: Now, right, And the timing was so self like. The 1578 01:22:06,760 --> 01:22:07,759 Speaker 6: timing was so selfish. 1579 01:22:07,840 --> 01:22:11,800 Speaker 7: He just finished defending her with what happened with Rob, 1580 01:22:12,200 --> 01:22:14,080 Speaker 7: so the timing could not have been worse. I will 1581 01:22:14,120 --> 01:22:16,160 Speaker 7: say this as somebody who has a lot of white friends. 1582 01:22:16,960 --> 01:22:19,439 Speaker 7: A true ally is someone who doesn't center themselves because 1583 01:22:19,439 --> 01:22:20,960 Speaker 7: an ally means you were sending to the left or 1584 01:22:20,960 --> 01:22:21,360 Speaker 7: the right of me. 1585 01:22:21,600 --> 01:22:24,040 Speaker 6: You're never centered, right. And we always talk. 1586 01:22:23,920 --> 01:22:27,000 Speaker 7: About people invited to the barbecue. I hate us inviting 1587 01:22:27,040 --> 01:22:29,920 Speaker 7: anybody to the barbecue. The kind of white people who 1588 01:22:30,000 --> 01:22:32,759 Speaker 7: are safe enough to be at the barbecue don't actually 1589 01:22:32,800 --> 01:22:34,519 Speaker 7: want to be there. They might come and get a 1590 01:22:34,560 --> 01:22:36,360 Speaker 7: plate and go home. They don't want to center themselves 1591 01:22:36,400 --> 01:22:38,599 Speaker 7: in our spaces. And I think what Dustin was outlining 1592 01:22:38,720 --> 01:22:41,559 Speaker 7: is Chris has gotten so familiar, forget comfortable. He's got 1593 01:22:41,680 --> 01:22:44,160 Speaker 7: so familiar he's used to now being able to censer 1594 01:22:44,240 --> 01:22:46,160 Speaker 7: himself in spaces where he doesn't belong, where he's only 1595 01:22:46,200 --> 01:22:48,360 Speaker 7: a guest who's supposed to be supportive. And I hate 1596 01:22:48,400 --> 01:22:50,479 Speaker 7: that for Canvas, because she's going to be the one 1597 01:22:50,479 --> 01:22:51,920 Speaker 7: who ultimately ends up paying for it. 1598 01:22:53,960 --> 01:22:58,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, he should know better, right, Chris, don't do that again. 1599 01:22:58,960 --> 01:23:01,479 Speaker 3: A baby a sixteen months is crazy? 1600 01:23:02,479 --> 01:23:12,719 Speaker 2: I love being some Dustin rawss. Okay. That concludes Live, 1601 01:23:13,040 --> 01:23:15,160 Speaker 2: I love you, rain Jows, will see y'all on the 1602 01:23:15,280 --> 01:23:15,840 Speaker 2: next one. 1603 01:23:16,520 --> 01:23:19,439 Speaker 4: Bye, y'all, Good. 1604 01:23:20,880 --> 01:23:21,160 Speaker 6: Face. 1605 01:23:25,640 --> 01:23:30,120 Speaker 1: Reality with the King is executive produced by me Carlos King, 1606 01:23:30,560 --> 01:23:32,160 Speaker 1: produced by Lizzie. 1607 01:23:32,040 --> 01:23:36,000 Speaker 2: Nimitz and a partnership with the Lack Effect Network. 1608 01:23:36,400 --> 01:23:39,080 Speaker 1: You can also find us on my YouTube channel at 1609 01:23:39,160 --> 01:23:40,960 Speaker 1: be Carlos King Underscore