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Speaker 1: Cole versus Tyron Woodley Sunday, August nine, at eight eastern

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Speaker 1: to Showtime dot com slash PPB. Welcome to All the Smoke,

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Speaker 1: a production of The Black Effect and our heart radio

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Speaker 1: and partnership with Showtime. Welcome back to another addition of

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Speaker 1: All the Smoke. What's going on with you? Jack Cooling?

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Speaker 1: My boy? Are you? I said you've been wearing a

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Speaker 1: little busy today. Man. I just literally ran off the

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Speaker 1: And I gotta go right back to ESPN to finish

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Speaker 1: out this free agent job. Yeah, come on, man, you

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Speaker 1: um a space season now is boxing? Welcome to the show, Jake, Paul, Jake,

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Speaker 1: what's up with you? Man? What up? Boys? How are we? Man? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Just we're cool and chill, have a good living life.

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Speaker 1: Man's kind of out in the days to the fight,

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Speaker 1: as you should. So we we spoke off camera. So

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Speaker 1: you're in Puerto Rico, Uh, in training camp right now?

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Speaker 1: Long have you been out there? I've been down here

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Speaker 1: and foremost, congratulations on signing your Showtime Boxing deal. Man. Uh,

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Speaker 1: you know to kind of the journey you've been on

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Speaker 1: I appreciate it. Man. Yeah, it's uh, it's amazing to

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Speaker 1: you know your mindset is you're gonna win. But if

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Speaker 1: even thinking about that ship. It's like asking me like, yo,

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Speaker 1: like after you walk on water, like what are you

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Speaker 1: gonna do next? Just not having it. I can't walk

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Speaker 1: on water. I can't lose that answers that question. Do

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Speaker 1: you do you remember your first tattoo? Yeah? I actually, um,

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Speaker 1: it's all right here you can see it, but it

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Speaker 1: says adventure. I got it there because as my parents

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Speaker 1: always told me not to get tattoos, and so my

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Speaker 1: first one I got because you can't see it there. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: they won't ever see it here. Uh but yeah, venture

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Speaker 1: it's like it means a daring or risky undertaking or journey,

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Speaker 1: which I feel like it's been my whole life. So

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Speaker 1: it's actually one of my favorite tattoos. Take me back

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Speaker 1: to who you were when you knocked our brother Nate

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Speaker 1: Robinson out, to the fighter you are we're talking to

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Speaker 1: right now. Yeah, you know against Nate I was I

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Speaker 1: was just still very good I just wasn't fully aware

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Speaker 1: that time. You know, that was only my second pro fight,

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Speaker 1: a lot to experience, you know, going through the fight

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Speaker 1: that a couple of times. And so that you know

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Speaker 1: that fight and and really every fight you win, it

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Speaker 1: just takes you to another level of understanding of your

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Speaker 1: ability of being calm, not getting nervous, and turning more

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Speaker 1: into just like a seasoned fighter. And I've just gotten Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I've just gotten so much better in between these camps.

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Speaker 1: And uh, you know, the fighter I am now would

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Speaker 1: would beat that that fighters ass pretty pretty easily, honestly.

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Speaker 1: M alright, man, we're winding down to the end, quick hitters.

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Speaker 1: If if you can, if you could go back to

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Speaker 1: one sporting event and watch a lie, what would it be? Man?

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Speaker 1: I think either I think the first thing that comes

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Speaker 1: to mind are like the first Super Bowl or or

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Speaker 1: Mike Tyson versus Vander Holyfield. Oh that's a big one.

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Speaker 1: I wish I could have been there at that one. Too,

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Speaker 1: have been soundtrack leading up to your big fight? What

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Speaker 1: are three songs that have to be listening to when

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Speaker 1: you get in fight mode? Uh? Definitely for this fight.

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Speaker 1: First and foremost is Until I Die by by mg K,

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Speaker 1: just because it's like repping repping Cleveland. Uh. So we've

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Speaker 1: been we've been bumping that one, um, and then we've

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Speaker 1: been bumping to Two Chains by by g Herbo. Uh.

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Speaker 1: That one's turn uh. And then you know, I got

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Speaker 1: some I got some drake, uh some unreleased drake. Okay,

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Speaker 1: you got you've got some v I P drake Huh yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's dope. Okay. Uh. Just remember when you're asking this question,

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Speaker 1: you gotta be able to help us with your answer.

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Speaker 1: Who would you like to see on all the smoke? Man?

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Speaker 1: I mean you might as well. You might as well

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Speaker 1: get my brother on for his next fight. That's easy, easy, easy,

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Speaker 1: all right there, family plug. That's that's how it's supposed

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Speaker 1: to go. Yeah, stay lawyal lawyal to you, bro. I

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Speaker 1: like that ship. That's how I rocked. Man. I'm low

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Speaker 1: too low to me everybody else. All right, I'm taking

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Speaker 1: you to We're fast forwarding to August twenty nine. Your hometown.

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Speaker 1: Motherfucking stadium is rocking, lights are on bill rings. What

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Speaker 1: can we expect from you that night? Who? Just an

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Speaker 1: aura of greatness and an electric, fast, sharp, hungry motivated

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Speaker 1: young man that will not be stopped. And you will

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Speaker 1: see my bones go through Tyrone's head and he will

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Speaker 1: be out on the canvas. We'll be in the building.

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Speaker 1: We'll definitely be in the building. They're gonna be there now,

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Speaker 1: We're gonna be there. Hey, Hey, we showed time families,

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Speaker 1: so we're hey, we're front row at all the fights.

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Speaker 1: It ain't no different. We're gonna be there. Let's go.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna have y'all pull up to the after party too,

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Speaker 1: because you know that's part of the whole night. Pretend

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Speaker 1: your solo cameras on Tyrone. What would you say to him,

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Speaker 1: just like like right now, yeah, right now, looking to

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Speaker 1: your phone and whatever the ship you want to say?

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Speaker 1: Eight to him? Man, you know how I'm coming, bro.

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Speaker 1: I'm telling you, I'm telling you straight up, stop buying

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Speaker 1: your US Bentley, Stop stop buying your your Nike little shoes,

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Speaker 1: your your Air Jordan's that are way too expensive for

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Speaker 1: you to afford. And take this last last paycheck of

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Speaker 1: yours and ride into the sunset. Buy some Ethereum, buy

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Speaker 1: some so Lana, buy some bitcoin, invest your money, and

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Speaker 1: uh stop being stupid with it. This is your this

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Speaker 1: is your last to rob Buddy, tough Tough Top. We're

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Speaker 1: gonna get t on two, so we don't have a

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Speaker 1: counterback for that, but man, make sure everyone out there

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Speaker 1: you know Showtime Tune in August twenty nine from Cleveland,

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Speaker 1: Ohio Showtime pay per View Jake, Paul Tyron Woodley, don't

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Speaker 1: miss it, can't miss it. We're gonna be there, man, Jake.

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Speaker 1: We appreciate you taking time with us today. Bro. Best

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Speaker 1: of luck at the end of the month. Bro. Thank

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Speaker 1: you guys. I'll see you there. I appreciate you. This

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