WEBVTT - Deandra Talks ‘Shock’ at Getting Sent Home, Plus: Her Predictions 0:00:01.920 --> 0:00:04.640 Good morning vat Nation. We are so excited to have 0:00:04.720 --> 0:00:07.640 you listening in now we have so much ground to cover, 0:00:07.720 --> 0:00:10.960 and later on we have Misty Andrew, who, as you 0:00:11.039 --> 0:00:13.840 unfortunately saw, just went home, but she is on the 0:00:13.880 --> 0:00:16.840 line giving us all of the details and the tea 0:00:17.200 --> 0:00:19.040 living with all the girls, so we can't wait to 0:00:19.040 --> 0:00:22.239 get started. Yes, we are so excited because last week 0:00:22.320 --> 0:00:25.000 we gotta to be continued, which we know we hate, 0:00:25.040 --> 0:00:27.240 but now we have the answers that we need. Kind 0:00:27.280 --> 0:00:29.960 of right like kind of Becca, I still feel like 0:00:30.000 --> 0:00:32.440 we're confused on a lot of situations. We're not getting 0:00:32.440 --> 0:00:37.160 the truth. But shocker at the top of the episode, 0:00:37.640 --> 0:00:41.000 Peterson's a laya home at the beginning of the cocktail party. Now, 0:00:41.000 --> 0:00:48.680 were you expecting this? Okay, no, only because I don't 0:00:48.760 --> 0:00:52.839 quite understand the thought process in Peter first sending her 0:00:52.880 --> 0:00:56.680 home at last week's row ceremony, then having her comeback 0:00:56.880 --> 0:01:00.240 giving her a rose when she's not even on a date, 0:01:00.320 --> 0:01:01.960 she's not even part of the show at this point, 0:01:02.120 --> 0:01:05.000 bringing her back in to live with the girls, only 0:01:05.040 --> 0:01:11.880 to send her home prior to anything else happening. Yeah, yeah, 0:01:10.840 --> 0:01:14.800 I just when I saw this, I was like Peter 0:01:15.680 --> 0:01:18.880 This is so problematic. You know, last episode we were saying, 0:01:18.920 --> 0:01:24.600 poor Peter, this episode, I'm titling it. I am not 0:01:24.760 --> 0:01:27.600 here to make friends, and we'll get into that later. 0:01:27.920 --> 0:01:31.440 But Peter's behavior for me, I can't excuse it much 0:01:31.480 --> 0:01:34.000 longer because what was frustrating was we see these women 0:01:34.000 --> 0:01:36.920 who call you out, who say they're confused by your actions, 0:01:37.080 --> 0:01:39.840 and it's becoming clear that you don't really know what 0:01:39.880 --> 0:01:42.800 you want, and you seem to be easily swayed by 0:01:42.840 --> 0:01:46.119 others opinions. You listen too much to the women who 0:01:46.160 --> 0:01:47.960 come and tattle to you when they have one on 0:01:47.960 --> 0:01:51.000 one time. You're listening to the collective group of the 0:01:51.000 --> 0:01:55.000 women say how they feel, rather than what your feelings are. 0:01:55.240 --> 0:01:57.640 I mean, I was screaming at the TV, what does 0:01:57.760 --> 0:02:02.520 Peter think? Yeah? What does he want? And I have 0:02:02.680 --> 0:02:05.200 to say that at this point in the season, it 0:02:05.200 --> 0:02:07.520 seems like he doesn't know. I don't think anyone knows. 0:02:07.560 --> 0:02:12.160 I don't think Peter knows. And my issue with this 0:02:12.200 --> 0:02:16.840 situation is that had the girls, I mean, it was 0:02:16.840 --> 0:02:19.560 a collective frustration with the group. They all questioned him, 0:02:19.560 --> 0:02:21.640 they all called him out on bringing her back, and 0:02:21.760 --> 0:02:25.240 of course rightly so they were angered by it, and 0:02:25.360 --> 0:02:28.280 had they not all done that and not attacked him 0:02:28.280 --> 0:02:30.160 in a way but brought that to his attention, I 0:02:30.160 --> 0:02:32.200 don't think he would have sent her home at that moment. 0:02:32.240 --> 0:02:34.720 I think I think it was overwhelming for him and 0:02:34.760 --> 0:02:36.960 he kind of had this panic of like, oh crap, 0:02:37.120 --> 0:02:40.079 I'm getting attacked now, just how do I appease this 0:02:40.160 --> 0:02:41.880 and how do I stop this quickly? It's like, but 0:02:41.960 --> 0:02:44.079 did you really want her back for a reason, because 0:02:44.280 --> 0:02:46.480 that's what you made it seem like by your actions, 0:02:46.760 --> 0:02:49.440 and so stand by that if that is what you want. No, 0:02:49.960 --> 0:02:52.000 completely agree with you, and I feel like it's a 0:02:52.120 --> 0:02:55.120 lead you should be a matter of fact, Yes, you 0:02:55.160 --> 0:02:58.639 know you questioned some things. We've been there, Becca both 0:02:58.720 --> 0:03:00.959 you do. You listen to what other people have to say, 0:03:01.000 --> 0:03:02.440 but you have to at the end of the day, 0:03:02.520 --> 0:03:05.720 trust your gut and be confident in whatever decision that 0:03:05.800 --> 0:03:08.840 it is that you make. And Peter doesn't seem to 0:03:08.880 --> 0:03:11.960 have that characteristic at this point as a lead. And 0:03:12.000 --> 0:03:16.840 I've just never seen so much confusion clouding over a cast, 0:03:17.200 --> 0:03:19.639 and I'm including Peter in that. And I think what 0:03:19.720 --> 0:03:23.320 was also problematic is, Okay, you made the decision to 0:03:23.360 --> 0:03:26.240 bring a Laya back. You wanted that you didn't feel 0:03:26.240 --> 0:03:28.280 like you had the full story, and as we found out, 0:03:28.320 --> 0:03:31.480 he certainly did not. But what he didn't have to 0:03:31.520 --> 0:03:34.480 do was give her a rose. He could have just said, 0:03:34.520 --> 0:03:36.360 you know what, I'm going to bring you back. We've 0:03:36.400 --> 0:03:38.720 seen that before. I want to give you some more 0:03:38.720 --> 0:03:40.920 time to prove yourself. I want to get to know you. 0:03:42.160 --> 0:03:44.000 Maybe there's some more that I need to figure out. 0:03:44.000 --> 0:03:46.200 But Peter didn't do that. He gave her a rose, 0:03:46.360 --> 0:03:51.040 and then you take it back and you're still telling 0:03:51.120 --> 0:03:55.400 Victoria Pee how much you trust her. And I'm so 0:03:55.440 --> 0:04:00.680 frustrated because to me, the lies are evident. I don't understand. 0:04:00.720 --> 0:04:02.480 I just have come to the conclusion that we have 0:04:02.560 --> 0:04:05.160 to be missing something because the other side of it 0:04:05.200 --> 0:04:08.480 is that Peter is an idiot. I'm sorry, I don't 0:04:08.640 --> 0:04:13.000 understand how you just don't get the Victoria Pe lied 0:04:13.040 --> 0:04:16.839 to you, and you just seem to excuse this problematic behavior. 0:04:17.360 --> 0:04:22.120 I'm so frustrated with them as I'm watching the beginning 0:04:22.240 --> 0:04:25.040 of this episode, and I think, and I don't want 0:04:25.040 --> 0:04:28.280 to speak for him because he is not here. My 0:04:28.400 --> 0:04:31.440 personal take is that at this moment, from everything that 0:04:31.480 --> 0:04:35.880 we have seen, Peter is getting distracted by shiny things 0:04:35.920 --> 0:04:38.560 and what he has attracted to, and he is following 0:04:39.440 --> 0:04:42.960 other parts of his body and not necessarily his head 0:04:43.120 --> 0:04:47.000 at this moment in time. Yeah, no, one hundred percent. Okay, 0:04:47.040 --> 0:04:50.880 So moving on, we lose three more ladies. We lose Keiki, 0:04:51.320 --> 0:04:54.760 we lose Deandra, and we lose Savannah. They don't get roses. 0:04:55.839 --> 0:04:59.080 And that's short lived because now we're excited because we're 0:04:59.120 --> 0:05:01.919 leaving the country and we're going on a journey to 0:05:02.080 --> 0:05:05.760 Costa Rica, which I personally have a love for. That's 0:05:05.760 --> 0:05:08.120 where I had my bachelorette party, so I was excited 0:05:08.120 --> 0:05:09.920 to see the ladies that they get to go there. 0:05:09.920 --> 0:05:13.680 It's really a fun and exciting place. But Okay, I 0:05:13.800 --> 0:05:17.320 have to laugh about this because one thing I don't 0:05:17.400 --> 0:05:20.599 think people know about me is that sometimes I'm really 0:05:20.640 --> 0:05:24.839 gullible and who When Peter met the women and he 0:05:25.000 --> 0:05:29.600 started telling them the story about the puma, I believed 0:05:29.680 --> 0:05:32.880 him at first. He started it off. I mean, he 0:05:32.960 --> 0:05:36.479 was committed to the story. I will say I probably 0:05:36.520 --> 0:05:38.160 would have been like you or the other women have 0:05:38.240 --> 0:05:43.400 been like shut up, no way this puma. But we yeah, 0:05:43.440 --> 0:05:47.120 never find out that wasn't the case. I mean a 0:05:47.200 --> 0:05:51.919 puma crossing this path. It was a golf cart, but 0:05:52.080 --> 0:05:55.400 not even like, not even the fact that he fell 0:05:55.480 --> 0:05:57.800 out of a golf cart. It's that he was just 0:05:57.920 --> 0:06:00.919 going to sit on the back at the golf cart 0:06:00.960 --> 0:06:04.800 and it hits his head and then quickly dives and 0:06:04.960 --> 0:06:09.479 hits his head on the glass. Like I know. The 0:06:09.560 --> 0:06:12.960 actual footage clip that they showed was very It wasn't 0:06:13.040 --> 0:06:15.040 high quality. It was very brief, but I had to 0:06:15.240 --> 0:06:18.400 rewatch it a couple of times to be like, is 0:06:18.720 --> 0:06:21.800 how the heck does this happen? And I'm a very 0:06:21.800 --> 0:06:23.960 clumsy person, so I get that you can get injured 0:06:24.000 --> 0:06:27.159 in like the weirdest of ways. But what it was 0:06:27.240 --> 0:06:31.560 definitely a freak accident twenty it was. The reenactment was amazing. 0:06:31.600 --> 0:06:34.360 I'm always here for the re enactment. These keep them 0:06:34.400 --> 0:06:38.160 coming throughout the season. I mean, it was worth It 0:06:38.200 --> 0:06:40.159 wasn't even what I thought it was until I saw 0:06:40.200 --> 0:06:43.320 the reenactment and I was like, Wow, that's how it 0:06:43.360 --> 0:06:45.400 happened to Peter. Okay, still don't quite get it, but 0:06:45.440 --> 0:06:47.560 that's why I'm calling it a freak accident. I do 0:06:47.680 --> 0:06:49.279 have to say that when he was telling the story 0:06:49.560 --> 0:06:52.120 about the puma, I thought it was going to be 0:06:52.160 --> 0:06:54.599 a reference to a like a black cat, which I 0:06:54.600 --> 0:06:56.960 guess the puma as a cat, but an actual black 0:06:57.000 --> 0:07:01.240 cat walking across his path, across his path kind of 0:07:01.279 --> 0:07:04.560 foreshadowing if you're superstitious that you know something is going 0:07:04.600 --> 0:07:08.159 to happen, which I kind of think he cursed the 0:07:08.200 --> 0:07:11.280 season by telling this story because it seems like a 0:07:11.320 --> 0:07:15.320 black cat is running all over this season. Just En 0:07:15.360 --> 0:07:19.480 circles around him. Yeah yeah, just around him in the house, 0:07:19.760 --> 0:07:23.560 on the plane, wherever, on the golf cart, everywhere everything, 0:07:23.840 --> 0:07:27.040 and it's in the suitcase. It it is following him. 0:07:27.120 --> 0:07:33.160 Yeah yeah, So yes, And don't you feel like we're 0:07:33.160 --> 0:07:35.000 getting a lot of one on ones? Is it just me? 0:07:35.400 --> 0:07:38.080 I don't know why. I just feel like more, you know, 0:07:38.080 --> 0:07:40.640 normally sometimes you see two group dates and just one 0:07:40.720 --> 0:07:42.480 one on one during the week. I feel like every 0:07:42.760 --> 0:07:45.760 week we're getting multiple one on ones. But we are 0:07:45.800 --> 0:07:47.480 great for the ladies. Great for the ladies. That means 0:07:47.480 --> 0:07:49.520 they're getting more time with Peter. So Sydney gets a 0:07:49.640 --> 0:07:53.520 one on one and she goes on a helicopter ride 0:07:53.800 --> 0:07:58.480 over a waterfall and the beautiful rainforest forests that are 0:07:58.520 --> 0:08:02.680 in Costa Rica, and we really see her personality come 0:08:02.680 --> 0:08:05.360 out a bit because she's kind of she's like silent 0:08:05.400 --> 0:08:08.600 but deadly, right. You see her quietly moving in the house, 0:08:09.360 --> 0:08:11.400 but then when she does speak, it's always with the 0:08:11.520 --> 0:08:14.440 dagger because we saw what happened to Alaia and we 0:08:14.520 --> 0:08:16.560 kind of see that happen later on in the episode 0:08:16.560 --> 0:08:19.880 as well. But yeah, what did you think about her 0:08:20.320 --> 0:08:24.640 opening up with Peter. I think, well, Peter said it 0:08:24.720 --> 0:08:27.240 best when he was talking to her. He called her mysterious, 0:08:27.280 --> 0:08:31.080 which I agree with. There's always something It's like from 0:08:31.080 --> 0:08:34.120 what we've seen up until this one on one, there 0:08:34.240 --> 0:08:37.000 wasn't I didn't get much to her other than the 0:08:37.000 --> 0:08:39.200 fact that she didn't like Alaia. There was always something 0:08:39.280 --> 0:08:42.880 there that she was kind of reserved about. So yeah, 0:08:42.880 --> 0:08:45.840 she opened up about her background, about being bullied and 0:08:46.000 --> 0:08:50.960 her parents' relationship and how difficult that was for her. 0:08:51.720 --> 0:08:57.000 I interact watching Peter and her interact, I think I 0:08:57.120 --> 0:09:00.360 think he is very enamored with her, by her beauty. 0:09:00.400 --> 0:09:03.760 I think that's very apparent. I just don't think other 0:09:03.800 --> 0:09:07.640 than that, like I don't for me personally see that deep, 0:09:08.360 --> 0:09:11.480 strong connection. It's like, yes, we know she's a good kisser. 0:09:11.559 --> 0:09:15.640 They had a very very very steamy makeout session in 0:09:15.760 --> 0:09:20.800 multiple positions, but other than that, I don't see much 0:09:20.880 --> 0:09:26.440 more between them than than that passion. Now that's a 0:09:26.600 --> 0:09:29.600 really good point. Yeah, you're right, they didn't seem to 0:09:29.679 --> 0:09:34.760 connect below a surface level. In my notes, I have 0:09:34.880 --> 0:09:38.719 one word written under Sydney and it's hot. That's it. 0:09:39.040 --> 0:09:41.800 That's like all hot road, I have all these things 0:09:41.840 --> 0:09:45.319 about everything else is like hot. She's hot, their data 0:09:45.400 --> 0:09:48.360 is hot, their interactions are hot. I mean, how many 0:09:48.400 --> 0:09:50.880 basses do you think they rounded when they were in 0:09:51.000 --> 0:09:56.360 that hot tub? Six or seven? But they're only basis, 0:09:56.559 --> 0:10:03.520 they're only four life. This is I thought you meant, 0:10:03.559 --> 0:10:11.160 like how many different services did they make out? Okay, okay, 0:10:11.240 --> 0:10:13.280 well you know what I was actually wondering watching them 0:10:13.280 --> 0:10:15.200 make out. At one point they were making out, you know, 0:10:15.559 --> 0:10:17.560 laying down, and then she was on top and he 0:10:17.640 --> 0:10:19.200 was on top. But at one point they were under 0:10:19.240 --> 0:10:22.160 the water and you just see the back and someone 0:10:22.240 --> 0:10:25.440 sitting on someone and I'm like, I think, wow, there's 0:10:25.520 --> 0:10:27.800 a little bit more touchy feely going on than the 0:10:28.120 --> 0:10:31.640 camera is letting on. Right now, Well, we've seen, you know, 0:10:31.720 --> 0:10:35.440 an extended preview the audience has at this point of 0:10:35.720 --> 0:10:37.880 the season from beginning to the end, and one of 0:10:37.880 --> 0:10:41.120 the clips is a girl saying Sydney had sex in 0:10:41.200 --> 0:10:44.120 the hot tub with Peter. So I didn't see that. 0:10:44.720 --> 0:10:47.400 So maybe there's another hot tub that comes. I don't 0:10:47.440 --> 0:10:50.480 know what that means. You didn't see that? No clip? Yeah, 0:10:50.520 --> 0:10:53.640 I've missed that. Yes, it's the only thing that and 0:10:54.080 --> 0:10:57.560 and Barb saying don't let her go. The two clip 0:10:57.640 --> 0:10:59.640 are the two things that I remember in nixt in 0:10:59.679 --> 0:11:02.200 a clip. Yes, somebody says that. So I don't know 0:11:02.880 --> 0:11:05.439 if it's a rumor, if something happens later, but it's 0:11:05.480 --> 0:11:09.640 definitely something that I'm waiting to see play out as 0:11:09.640 --> 0:11:15.200 the season progresses. Yes, but um, Sydney definitely was a 0:11:15.240 --> 0:11:20.280 passionate date. I made sure that Brian fast forwarded during 0:11:20.360 --> 0:11:23.040 that section of the date. Or how does it not 0:11:23.240 --> 0:11:28.840 just kidding careless? How many bases do you think they covered? 0:11:28.840 --> 0:11:33.440 Since I botched that one? Three? Three? They definitely I 0:11:33.440 --> 0:11:36.960 don't think they made it home, but they definitely rounded 0:11:37.080 --> 0:11:41.319 third base. Dylan, when we had him on the show 0:11:41.400 --> 0:11:45.439 last week said talked about having to watch episodes back. 0:11:45.480 --> 0:11:47.079 I can't remember if it was Dylan or Hannah that 0:11:47.160 --> 0:11:51.640 said it after watching Sydney's date. If he didn't pick Sydney, 0:11:52.000 --> 0:11:55.920 my god, whoever he picked is really going to have 0:11:56.040 --> 0:11:59.319 to dig deep within. If he picked somebody, we still 0:11:59.320 --> 0:12:01.200 don't even know that, but it's going to have to 0:12:01.240 --> 0:12:05.400 dig deep within to really move past that because there 0:12:05.480 --> 0:12:10.320 is a lot of physical tenac. Yes, they either have 0:12:10.360 --> 0:12:12.920 to have very thick skin and be confident in who 0:12:12.960 --> 0:12:15.160 they are and in the relationship at this point, or 0:12:15.920 --> 0:12:17.880 who knows if they even watched it, because if I 0:12:17.920 --> 0:12:19.679 was Peter, I'd be like, oh, maybe fast forward a 0:12:19.720 --> 0:12:22.600 little bit. Yeah, and at this point, Peter's kissed everyone. 0:12:22.840 --> 0:12:25.400 He kiss thirteen the first night, so and he told 0:12:25.440 --> 0:12:27.840 Sidney she was the best kisser. So if I'm the 0:12:27.880 --> 0:12:30.120 girl he picked and I'm sitting at home, I'm gonna 0:12:30.120 --> 0:12:32.440 be like, oh, okay, so really, so Sidney's got the 0:12:32.480 --> 0:12:34.360 best lips, So what do you think about my lips? 0:12:35.080 --> 0:12:36.520 I'd be like, Okay, what does she do? What do 0:12:36.559 --> 0:12:40.200 I need to work on? Give me the pointers here? Yeah? Yeah, 0:12:40.679 --> 0:12:44.440 that's that's That's a tough pill swallow. He seems to 0:12:44.480 --> 0:12:50.480 gravitate girls that have more of a hard, difficult, tragic 0:12:50.920 --> 0:12:54.160 past that he kind of wants to save, even though 0:12:54.160 --> 0:12:56.920 he mentioned with us that he wants a strong, independent 0:12:56.960 --> 0:13:01.560 woman that he might like to be the savior in 0:13:01.559 --> 0:13:04.640 a relationship. Yeah, and I almost think that he can't 0:13:04.640 --> 0:13:08.320 help it, because everybody, more than any other season I've watched, 0:13:08.440 --> 0:13:11.280 these girls have a past and a story and have 0:13:11.360 --> 0:13:16.480 really been through things. So it's almost inevitable because everybody 0:13:16.640 --> 0:13:19.400 is like, I want to sit down and tell my story. 0:13:19.440 --> 0:13:22.199 I mean, even later in the episode we see McKenna 0:13:22.240 --> 0:13:23.920 who's like, this was a big night for us. I 0:13:24.000 --> 0:13:25.760 was going to open up to him and tell him 0:13:25.760 --> 0:13:29.520 my story, and I was like, geez, everybody except for Kelly, 0:13:30.000 --> 0:13:33.600 who will talk about later, really has a deep story 0:13:33.720 --> 0:13:36.280 or is at least willing to open up with Peter 0:13:36.960 --> 0:13:39.040 and share that with him. And maybe that's a credit 0:13:39.040 --> 0:13:41.720 to Peter that they the girls just feel comfortable enough 0:13:42.040 --> 0:13:45.640 to really express how they feel. And he is very empathetic, 0:13:45.679 --> 0:13:48.079 and when his parents were in the studio weeks ago, 0:13:48.120 --> 0:13:50.800 they did mention he is a people pleaser. He does 0:13:50.880 --> 0:13:54.640 have that nurturing inside to him, which we're definitely seen 0:13:54.880 --> 0:13:58.080 with him and these women yeah, no, no, no no, for sure. 0:13:58.600 --> 0:14:03.000 So the next date, which I thought was interesting and 0:14:03.240 --> 0:14:06.880 definitely a recipe for drama, as we see them having 0:14:06.920 --> 0:14:10.319 this professional photo shoot on the waterfalls on the rocks, 0:14:10.360 --> 0:14:13.240 which was beautiful, but then you see girls really step 0:14:13.240 --> 0:14:15.880 it up out of their comfort zone and try to 0:14:15.960 --> 0:14:18.520 stand out to I don't know if the prize was Peter, 0:14:18.720 --> 0:14:21.200 just the prize of getting that cover of that magazine, 0:14:21.280 --> 0:14:23.800 But what did you think about the girl's actions as 0:14:23.880 --> 0:14:27.360 they were in the midst of that photo shoot. If 0:14:27.440 --> 0:14:30.760 I was on this group date, I would be more defied. 0:14:31.920 --> 0:14:35.440 What would you do with your hands? Exactly? Rachel to 0:14:35.520 --> 0:14:38.760 my point, I am so awkward. I never really had 0:14:38.800 --> 0:14:41.160 a proper photo shoot until after I came out of 0:14:41.200 --> 0:14:43.440 the bachelorette Like, of course I had my senior photos 0:14:43.480 --> 0:14:45.320 and that was it. So if had I been on 0:14:45.360 --> 0:14:48.400 this date, I would have been like, can I stand underwater? 0:14:48.440 --> 0:14:50.560 Please give me some of those water shoes. I'll hide 0:14:50.600 --> 0:14:53.040 beneath the surface, like I'll smile at the camera. I 0:14:53.040 --> 0:14:58.600 would have no idea what to do, which is where 0:14:58.640 --> 0:15:00.600 we see the difference with some of these girls. Because, 0:15:00.640 --> 0:15:02.560 of course you have Hannah Ann, who is the model 0:15:02.960 --> 0:15:06.200 she killed it on the evolved day. These girls are 0:15:06.320 --> 0:15:11.400 all gorgeous, and I will say like it came across 0:15:11.440 --> 0:15:13.840 that all looked pretty comfortable with each other. They're posed 0:15:13.920 --> 0:15:16.720 up with some of the other girls. The part that 0:15:16.800 --> 0:15:19.680 kind of stuck out to me is Victoria f when 0:15:19.720 --> 0:15:21.720 she goes in for that kiss with Peter. I think 0:15:21.720 --> 0:15:27.720 her whole I'm not confident act is not necessarily true. Yeah, 0:15:27.800 --> 0:15:30.040 I'm torn on this one because I get it. You 0:15:30.440 --> 0:15:34.640 there's no girl or guy that doesn't get insecure when 0:15:34.680 --> 0:15:37.640 you're on this show and you're surrounding yourself with all 0:15:37.680 --> 0:15:39.720 these beautiful people and it's hard to stand out in 0:15:39.720 --> 0:15:44.160 a crowd. But yeah, that that definitely that insecurity. Seems 0:15:44.200 --> 0:15:47.080 like that was I don't know, something that happened a 0:15:47.080 --> 0:15:49.000 long time ago, because we're not seeing that now. We're 0:15:49.000 --> 0:15:51.720 seeing her more vocal in the house and we're seeing 0:15:51.720 --> 0:15:55.760 her more standing out and you know, being a presence 0:15:55.800 --> 0:15:58.560 when it comes to Peter. How about Tammy. That was 0:15:58.640 --> 0:16:01.080 hilarious when she did not no, that was you beckat 0:16:01.200 --> 0:16:05.200 you are Tammy? Tammy? When they were kissing, I was 0:16:05.400 --> 0:16:08.080 like McKenna looked like she was like reaching like grabbing 0:16:08.080 --> 0:16:10.680 his neck, like hey, Hey, kiss me too, and Tammy 0:16:10.760 --> 0:16:14.080 just screams and just stands there and looks terrified, like 0:16:14.120 --> 0:16:16.680 I don't know what to do. I'm just here that 0:16:17.840 --> 0:16:21.800 Tammy is the ultimate, Like this moment sucks, but I'm 0:16:21.800 --> 0:16:23.680 going to make the most of it. And her face 0:16:23.760 --> 0:16:26.560 like when the when the camera snapped her face in 0:16:26.600 --> 0:16:29.360 that moment, I was like, oh my god, I feel 0:16:29.400 --> 0:16:33.200 I'm feeling Tammy right now. And yes, that's just it's 0:16:33.200 --> 0:16:35.800 just uncomfortable, you know. And I get that it's the 0:16:35.840 --> 0:16:38.040 name of the game, and you know when you sign 0:16:38.120 --> 0:16:40.320 up for the show that you're going to have to 0:16:40.320 --> 0:16:42.760 see other relationships unfold. But like, let's be honest, no 0:16:42.800 --> 0:16:46.720 one wants to see him kissing another girl literally twelve 0:16:46.840 --> 0:16:50.360 inches behind you. Yeah. How about when Victoria f on 0:16:50.400 --> 0:16:53.600 the nighttime part of the date said quote, I'm twenty six. 0:16:54.320 --> 0:16:59.280 It's depressing. Oh rache well, and then Peter goes, I'm 0:16:59.320 --> 0:17:02.760 twenty eight, I'm grandpa, and I'm like, I'm thirty. What 0:17:02.800 --> 0:17:05.480 are you saying about us? That's what I should have 0:17:05.520 --> 0:17:07.480 named the theme of the show. I mean, like that 0:17:07.480 --> 0:17:12.400 that right there, let's you know, the mindset. Then Kelly 0:17:12.440 --> 0:17:15.840 gets a date which it's like, I remember Kelly's there, 0:17:15.840 --> 0:17:17.480 but I forget because we don't see that much of 0:17:17.520 --> 0:17:21.600 her unless they're talking about how it was so amazing 0:17:21.600 --> 0:17:24.120 how they met before the season. So Kelly pops up again, 0:17:24.160 --> 0:17:25.840 I'm like, okay, great, Like maybe we'll see more of 0:17:25.880 --> 0:17:28.960 her personality. I like Kelly. Well, she even said she's 0:17:29.000 --> 0:17:31.919 the one to kind of go hide in the corner. Yeah. So, 0:17:32.520 --> 0:17:34.600 and I thought, Okay, well that's why we haven't seen you. Plus, 0:17:34.600 --> 0:17:37.360 it's a lot of drama, and Kelly is just like, 0:17:37.520 --> 0:17:42.679 I'm over this, this drama. I thought their date was interesting. 0:17:43.240 --> 0:17:47.520 I actually would have liked it. I don't know how 0:17:48.400 --> 0:17:50.920 they didn't just burst out laughing through the entire thing. 0:17:51.080 --> 0:17:53.840 Oh I would have loved it. I no, no, And 0:17:53.880 --> 0:17:56.960 don't get me wrong. I actually I probably would have 0:17:57.000 --> 0:18:01.200 liked that date too. I think I just the way 0:18:01.200 --> 0:18:04.560 that it's shown, it just seems so awkward between the 0:18:04.600 --> 0:18:06.679 two of them that I would have just been cracking 0:18:06.760 --> 0:18:08.600 jokes left and right to kind of make up for 0:18:08.640 --> 0:18:13.960 some of that. It just I think it was hard 0:18:14.000 --> 0:18:16.240 because had it been any other girl who he maybe 0:18:16.320 --> 0:18:18.600 wasn't questioning their relationship with, it would have gone a 0:18:18.640 --> 0:18:20.600 totally different way, I think it would have been much 0:18:20.640 --> 0:18:23.800 more intimate, but because we know there's some tension and 0:18:24.240 --> 0:18:27.480 they're both kind of questioning where they're at in their relationship, 0:18:27.560 --> 0:18:33.120 but just you can feel that spilling through the TV. No, no, no, absolutely, 0:18:33.160 --> 0:18:35.359 it was a little bit of a painful day to watch. 0:18:35.480 --> 0:18:37.680 I kind of wanted Kelly to open up a little 0:18:37.680 --> 0:18:39.960 bit more, but I do feel like we got where 0:18:39.960 --> 0:18:42.399 she was coming from. And I really thought it was 0:18:42.440 --> 0:18:44.679 interesting because as I was watching it, I thought, I 0:18:44.760 --> 0:18:48.200 am Kelly, and Kelly is me. If I was in 0:18:48.200 --> 0:18:50.560 that house with those women, I don't think that I 0:18:50.600 --> 0:18:54.800 would survive. And it really made me reflect on my season, 0:18:55.480 --> 0:18:57.080 what or not my season? But when I was on 0:18:57.200 --> 0:18:59.679 nixt season, I thought that I wouldn't get along with 0:18:59.680 --> 0:19:01.280 any of the women in the house, and I was 0:19:01.400 --> 0:19:06.240 so beautifully surprised that I really developed strong friendships during 0:19:06.480 --> 0:19:10.080 the show and even thereafter. And I realize how much 0:19:10.119 --> 0:19:13.480 of a blessing that is, because it's one thing for 0:19:13.520 --> 0:19:16.080 you to connect with the lead, but that's only the 0:19:16.080 --> 0:19:18.000 time that you have when you're one on one. When 0:19:18.040 --> 0:19:20.240 you go the majority of time of the time is 0:19:20.280 --> 0:19:22.880 in the house, and if you don't have that support 0:19:22.960 --> 0:19:25.360 system or girls that you trust or just that circle 0:19:25.400 --> 0:19:28.280 of friends. It will eat at you and it will 0:19:28.320 --> 0:19:31.760 really affect your journey on this season. And I thought, 0:19:31.880 --> 0:19:34.119 Kelly doesn't have that, She doesn't have those girls. And 0:19:34.160 --> 0:19:37.800 she said it. She even referenced Hannah Anne, which Peter 0:19:37.920 --> 0:19:39.960 was like, wait, wait, wait, wait a minute, wait what 0:19:40.040 --> 0:19:43.440 about Hannah Anne? And I thought, yeah, she's like, wait 0:19:43.440 --> 0:19:45.720 a minute, I like her, but I realize we are 0:19:45.760 --> 0:19:49.760 on different levels. And I was it's obvious she is. 0:19:49.920 --> 0:19:52.320 They are on two different levels, they have two different mindsets, 0:19:52.359 --> 0:19:54.720 they are in two different places in their lives. And 0:19:54.840 --> 0:19:57.440 I just really felt bad for Kelly in that moment 0:19:57.480 --> 0:19:59.000 because I thought, you know what, Kelly could be a 0:19:59.000 --> 0:20:01.960 different person. She was with a different group of women. Yes, 0:20:02.640 --> 0:20:04.840 and that just goes to show. I mean, I think 0:20:04.880 --> 0:20:09.000 for both Nick and Aris season us collectively as the 0:20:09.040 --> 0:20:12.000 group of women we were a little bit older, we 0:20:12.000 --> 0:20:15.160 were you know, it was just a different different age group, 0:20:15.240 --> 0:20:19.760 different mindsets. And not that Kelly got stuck in this one, 0:20:19.800 --> 0:20:22.080 but yes, I think it could have been different had 0:20:22.119 --> 0:20:26.960 it been a different season. And but what I appreciate 0:20:26.960 --> 0:20:29.280 about Kelly is we've seen it on other seasons where 0:20:29.320 --> 0:20:32.120 the girls don't get along with anyone and don't care 0:20:32.119 --> 0:20:34.639 to interact with the other women, and they say like, 0:20:34.720 --> 0:20:36.320 I am not here to make friends. I don't care 0:20:36.359 --> 0:20:39.719 about anyone else. I think that's not Kelly's mindset. I 0:20:39.760 --> 0:20:43.120 think she just feels a little bit off base. She 0:20:43.160 --> 0:20:45.159 can't connect with them. And it's not that she's not 0:20:45.320 --> 0:20:48.520 open or welcome to that. I just think it's not 0:20:48.640 --> 0:20:51.480 fully there for her. And she's not shutting it down, 0:20:51.560 --> 0:20:54.440 but she's just kind of removing herself in a more 0:20:54.520 --> 0:20:58.359 mature way. But it is tough because in this scenario, 0:20:58.440 --> 0:21:00.720 you don't have your phones, you don't have your normal 0:21:00.760 --> 0:21:02.560 friends and family to lean on, and so it is 0:21:03.200 --> 0:21:06.480 I can see why she would feel very isolated. Yeah, 0:21:06.520 --> 0:21:10.479 and I thought that. I was actually surprised that at 0:21:10.520 --> 0:21:12.919 the end of the day, because Peter seemed to question 0:21:12.920 --> 0:21:14.520 her a lot. I thought it was so cute when 0:21:14.520 --> 0:21:16.480 he was like, well, what about what the shaman said? 0:21:16.680 --> 0:21:18.680 I was like, Peter, he was really into it. I 0:21:18.680 --> 0:21:21.760 would have been into it. Yeah, And you know, I 0:21:22.359 --> 0:21:24.040 really at first, I go, oh, my gosh, she's not 0:21:24.040 --> 0:21:25.639 going to give her a rose. I really like Kelly. 0:21:25.960 --> 0:21:28.520 Kelly needs to stay. She's one of the level headed 0:21:28.520 --> 0:21:32.000 ones in the house. And then he gave it to her, 0:21:32.600 --> 0:21:35.240 and he explained his reasoning, and I thought, you know what, 0:21:35.440 --> 0:21:37.680