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Speaker 1: Good morning vat Nation. We are so excited to have

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Speaker 1: you listening in now we have so much ground to cover,

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Speaker 1: and later on we have Misty Andrew, who, as you

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Speaker 1: unfortunately saw, just went home, but she is on the

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Speaker 1: line giving us all of the details and the tea

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Speaker 1: living with all the girls, so we can't wait to

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Speaker 1: get started. Yes, we are so excited because last week

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Speaker 1: we gotta to be continued, which we know we hate,

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Speaker 1: but now we have the answers that we need. Kind

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Speaker 1: of right like kind of Becca, I still feel like

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Speaker 1: we're confused on a lot of situations. We're not getting

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Speaker 1: the truth. But shocker at the top of the episode,

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Speaker 1: Peterson's a laya home at the beginning of the cocktail party. Now,

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Speaker 1: were you expecting this? Okay, no, only because I don't

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Speaker 1: quite understand the thought process in Peter first sending her

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Speaker 1: home at last week's row ceremony, then having her comeback

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Speaker 1: giving her a rose when she's not even on a date,

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Speaker 1: she's not even part of the show at this point,

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Speaker 1: bringing her back in to live with the girls, only

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Speaker 1: to send her home prior to anything else happening. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I just when I saw this, I was like Peter

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Speaker 1: This is so problematic. You know, last episode we were saying,

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Speaker 1: poor Peter, this episode, I'm titling it. I am not

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Speaker 1: here to make friends, and we'll get into that later.

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Speaker 1: But Peter's behavior for me, I can't excuse it much

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Speaker 1: longer because what was frustrating was we see these women

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Speaker 1: who call you out, who say they're confused by your actions,

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Speaker 1: and it's becoming clear that you don't really know what

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Speaker 1: you want, and you seem to be easily swayed by

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Speaker 1: others opinions. You listen too much to the women who

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Speaker 1: come and tattle to you when they have one on

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Speaker 1: one time. You're listening to the collective group of the

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Speaker 1: women say how they feel, rather than what your feelings are.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I was screaming at the TV, what does

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Speaker 1: Peter think? Yeah? What does he want? And I have

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Speaker 1: to say that at this point in the season, it

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Speaker 1: seems like he doesn't know. I don't think anyone knows.

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Speaker 1: I don't think Peter knows. And my issue with this

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Speaker 1: situation is that had the girls, I mean, it was

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Speaker 1: a collective frustration with the group. They all questioned him,

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Speaker 1: they all called him out on bringing her back, and

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Speaker 1: of course rightly so they were angered by it, and

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Speaker 1: had they not all done that and not attacked him

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Speaker 1: in a way but brought that to his attention, I

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Speaker 1: don't think he would have sent her home at that moment.

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Speaker 1: I think I think it was overwhelming for him and

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Speaker 1: he kind of had this panic of like, oh crap,

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Speaker 1: I'm getting attacked now, just how do I appease this

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Speaker 1: and how do I stop this quickly? It's like, but

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Speaker 1: did you really want her back for a reason, because

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Speaker 1: that's what you made it seem like by your actions,

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Speaker 1: and so stand by that if that is what you want. No,

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Speaker 1: completely agree with you, and I feel like it's a

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Speaker 1: lead you should be a matter of fact, Yes, you

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Speaker 1: know you questioned some things. We've been there, Becca both

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Speaker 1: you do. You listen to what other people have to say,

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Speaker 1: but you have to at the end of the day,

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Speaker 1: trust your gut and be confident in whatever decision that

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Speaker 1: it is that you make. And Peter doesn't seem to

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Speaker 1: I've just never seen so much confusion clouding over a cast,

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Speaker 1: and I'm including Peter in that. And I think what

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Speaker 1: was also problematic is, Okay, you made the decision to

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Speaker 1: bring a Laya back. You wanted that you didn't feel

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Speaker 1: like you had the full story, and as we found out,

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Speaker 1: he certainly did not. But what he didn't have to

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Speaker 1: do was give her a rose. He could have just said,

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Speaker 1: you know what, I'm going to bring you back. We've

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Speaker 1: seen that before. I want to give you some more

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Speaker 1: Maybe there's some more that I need to figure out.

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Speaker 1: But Peter didn't do that. He gave her a rose,

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Speaker 1: and then you take it back and you're still telling

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Speaker 1: Victoria Pee how much you trust her. And I'm so

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Speaker 1: frustrated because to me, the lies are evident. I don't understand.

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Speaker 1: I just have come to the conclusion that we have

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Speaker 1: to be missing something because the other side of it

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Speaker 1: to you, and you just seem to excuse this problematic behavior.

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Speaker 1: I'm so frustrated with them as I'm watching the beginning

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Speaker 1: personal take is that at this moment, from everything that

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Speaker 1: we have seen, Peter is getting distracted by shiny things

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Speaker 1: at this moment in time. Yeah, no, one hundred percent. Okay,

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Speaker 1: So moving on, we lose three more ladies. We lose Keiki,

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Speaker 1: And that's short lived because now we're excited because we're

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Speaker 1: Costa Rica, which I personally have a love for. That's

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Speaker 1: where I had my bachelorette party, so I was excited

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Speaker 1: It's really a fun and exciting place. But Okay, I

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Speaker 1: think people know about me is that sometimes I'm really

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Speaker 1: gullible and who When Peter met the women and he

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Speaker 1: started telling them the story about the puma, I believed

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Speaker 1: been like shut up, no way this puma. But we yeah,

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Speaker 1: never find out that wasn't the case. I mean a

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Speaker 1: not even like, not even the fact that he fell

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Speaker 1: and it hits his head and then quickly dives and

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Speaker 1: hits his head on the glass. Like I know. The

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Speaker 1: actual footage clip that they showed was very It wasn't

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Speaker 1: rewatch it a couple of times to be like, is

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Speaker 1: how the heck does this happen? And I'm a very

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Speaker 1: clumsy person, so I get that you can get injured

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Speaker 1: in like the weirdest of ways. But what it was

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Speaker 1: definitely a freak accident twenty it was. The reenactment was amazing.

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Speaker 1: I'm always here for the re enactment. These keep them

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Speaker 1: the reenactment and I was like, Wow, that's how it

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Speaker 1: that's why I'm calling it a freak accident. I do

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Speaker 1: black cat is running all over this season. Just En

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Speaker 1: circles around him. Yeah yeah, just around him in the house,

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Speaker 1: and it's in the suitcase. It it is following him.

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Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, So yes, And don't you feel like we're

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Speaker 1: week we're getting multiple one on ones. But we are

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Speaker 1: great for the ladies. Great for the ladies. That means

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Speaker 1: they're getting more time with Peter. So Sydney gets a

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Speaker 1: out a bit because she's kind of she's like silent

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Speaker 1: kind of see that happen later on in the episode

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Speaker 1: opening up with Peter. I think, well, Peter said it

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Speaker 1: best when he was talking to her. He called her mysterious,

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Speaker 1: which I agree with. There's always something It's like from

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Speaker 1: what we've seen up until this one on one, there

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Speaker 1: she opened up about her background, about being bullied and

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Speaker 1: her parents' relationship and how difficult that was for her.

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Speaker 1: I interact watching Peter and her interact, I think I

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Speaker 1: think he is very enamored with her, by her beauty.

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Speaker 1: I think that's very apparent. I just don't think other

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Speaker 1: strong connection. It's like, yes, we know she's a good kisser.

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Speaker 1: They had a very very very steamy makeout session in

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Speaker 1: really good point. Yeah, you're right, they didn't seem to

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Speaker 1: one word written under Sydney and it's hot. That's it.

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Speaker 1: That's like all hot road, I have all these things

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Speaker 1: about everything else is like hot. She's hot, their data

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Speaker 1: is hot, their interactions are hot. I mean, how many

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Speaker 1: basses do you think they rounded when they were in

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Speaker 1: that hot tub? Six or seven? But they're only basis,

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Speaker 1: they're only four life. This is I thought you meant,

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Speaker 1: like how many different services did they make out? Okay, okay,

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Speaker 1: well you know what I was actually wondering watching them

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Speaker 1: make out. At one point they were making out, you know,

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Speaker 1: camera is letting on. Right now, Well, we've seen, you know,

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Speaker 1: the season from beginning to the end, and one of

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Speaker 1: the clips is a girl saying Sydney had sex in

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Speaker 1: the hot tub with Peter. So I didn't see that.

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Speaker 1: So maybe there's another hot tub that comes. I don't

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Speaker 1: know what that means. You didn't see that? No clip? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I've missed that. Yes, it's the only thing that and

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Speaker 1: and Barb saying don't let her go. The two clip

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Speaker 1: a clip. Yes, somebody says that. So I don't know

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Speaker 1: definitely something that I'm waiting to see play out as

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Speaker 1: the season progresses. Yes, but um, Sydney definitely was a

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Speaker 1: passionate date. I made sure that Brian fast forwarded during

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Speaker 1: just kidding careless? How many bases do you think they covered?

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Speaker 1: Since I botched that one? Three? Three? They definitely I

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Speaker 1: don't think they made it home, but they definitely rounded

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Speaker 1: third base. Dylan, when we had him on the show

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Speaker 1: last week said talked about having to watch episodes back.

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Speaker 1: I can't remember if it was Dylan or Hannah that

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Speaker 1: said it after watching Sydney's date. If he didn't pick Sydney,

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Speaker 1: my god, whoever he picked is really going to have

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Speaker 1: to dig deep within. If he picked somebody, we still

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Speaker 1: to pick you, you just start acting out and tattling

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00:22:53,760 --> 00:22:55,680
Speaker 1: to whatever is going to keep you week to week.

428
00:22:55,680 --> 00:22:57,800
Speaker 1: Because if Tammy had not acted the way that she did,

429
00:22:58,240 --> 00:23:01,760
Speaker 1: she would not be with us this week or at

430
00:23:01,800 --> 00:23:03,199
Speaker 1: the end of this week, she wouldn't be going on

431
00:23:03,240 --> 00:23:05,480
Speaker 1: to next week. Okay, what do you think about what

432
00:23:05,520 --> 00:23:08,600
Speaker 1: Tammy said? Tammy saying about the pills and the drinking,

433
00:23:09,000 --> 00:23:12,400
Speaker 1: I don't think that was her place to get involved in.

434
00:23:12,600 --> 00:23:16,320
Speaker 1: I think that that is a much deeper, heavier issue

435
00:23:17,040 --> 00:23:20,320
Speaker 1: that if it is, and I'm not saying that it

436
00:23:20,359 --> 00:23:22,480
Speaker 1: is even a problem, I don't know, but if it was,

437
00:23:22,600 --> 00:23:25,159
Speaker 1: that is not Tammy's place to be saying it to

438
00:23:25,240 --> 00:23:28,960
Speaker 1: Peter or to anybody else. That's a very Turkey territory

439
00:23:29,040 --> 00:23:31,480
Speaker 1: to cross, and I think she should have stayed out

440
00:23:31,520 --> 00:23:34,520
Speaker 1: of it. I want to start by saying, you know

441
00:23:34,640 --> 00:23:37,439
Speaker 1: the thing, everyone's like, we were rooting for you, like

442
00:23:37,480 --> 00:23:39,719
Speaker 1: I was rooting for you. We were all rooting for you.

443
00:23:39,760 --> 00:23:44,320
Speaker 1: That's what I wanted with Tammy. I loved Tammy up.

444
00:23:44,359 --> 00:23:46,639
Speaker 1: I mean, and I will say this, I still like Tammy.

445
00:23:46,680 --> 00:23:50,119
Speaker 1: I think this week she of course, like should not

446
00:23:50,160 --> 00:23:52,000
Speaker 1: have gotten involved in certain things. She should have not

447
00:23:52,040 --> 00:23:54,320
Speaker 1: reacted in the way that she did in certain things.

448
00:23:54,359 --> 00:23:57,439
Speaker 1: And that's just my opinion. Yeah, you know, Becca, it

449
00:23:57,520 --> 00:24:05,119
Speaker 1: really seems that tam exacerated the situation. Did you did

450
00:24:05,200 --> 00:24:09,560
Speaker 1: you catch that? I catch I catch that, Yes, Rachel,

451
00:24:09,640 --> 00:24:12,880
Speaker 1: I caught that. And every week I feel like we're

452
00:24:12,880 --> 00:24:14,520
Speaker 1: going to have a new word that we've talked about

453
00:24:14,560 --> 00:24:17,399
Speaker 1: to add to that, miss vocabulary? Is that? Is that

454
00:24:17,480 --> 00:24:21,919
Speaker 1: even a word? Miss vocabulary? I might to this to

455
00:24:22,040 --> 00:24:25,679
Speaker 1: this vocabulary bank, because um, every week it seems like

456
00:24:25,720 --> 00:24:30,000
Speaker 1: there's one that one word that it's little off and

457
00:24:30,119 --> 00:24:33,600
Speaker 1: God bless these girls for trying, but exacerate is not

458
00:24:34,000 --> 00:24:38,199
Speaker 1: the correct one. No, it's not. It's exacerbate. And and

459
00:24:38,400 --> 00:24:42,720
Speaker 1: please please, it's not okay, Becca, it's not okay. And

460
00:24:43,000 --> 00:24:46,480
Speaker 1: we're at an all time high here. These are basic words, Okay,

461
00:24:46,680 --> 00:24:48,639
Speaker 1: we should be able to use them. It wasn't Tammy

462
00:24:48,680 --> 00:24:50,520
Speaker 1: Hughes that I was just using it in a sentence.

463
00:24:50,560 --> 00:24:53,879
Speaker 1: It was Victoria Pe was the victim this week who

464
00:24:54,119 --> 00:24:59,840
Speaker 1: mispronounced the word. She said exacerate. That is not correct,

465
00:25:00,119 --> 00:25:02,199
Speaker 1: and I don't want people to be repeating this. I

466
00:25:02,240 --> 00:25:04,639
Speaker 1: don't want this to be a thing. Okay, people to

467
00:25:04,720 --> 00:25:08,480
Speaker 1: know how to correctly say it. So I guess next

468
00:25:08,520 --> 00:25:11,920
Speaker 1: week there'll be another but calling out someone as being

469
00:25:11,960 --> 00:25:15,879
Speaker 1: an alcoholic and popping pills, those are lines that you

470
00:25:15,920 --> 00:25:19,240
Speaker 1: don't cross if you're not in someone's inner circle and

471
00:25:19,320 --> 00:25:21,200
Speaker 1: not close with them, and I don't think that that

472
00:25:21,280 --> 00:25:24,440
Speaker 1: should have been brought up to anyone in this scenario.

473
00:25:25,000 --> 00:25:28,639
Speaker 1: I was actually shocked that Tammy didn't have the wherewithal

474
00:25:28,720 --> 00:25:31,399
Speaker 1: to not do that. I just really was like, gosh,

475
00:25:31,400 --> 00:25:34,359
Speaker 1: she's really desperate. And I know what this situation is

476
00:25:34,400 --> 00:25:37,240
Speaker 1: like and how you feel levels of desperation when you

477
00:25:37,280 --> 00:25:39,080
Speaker 1: feel like you're about to go home. But this was

478
00:25:39,119 --> 00:25:41,600
Speaker 1: not the answer. This was not the way to go. Now,

479
00:25:41,640 --> 00:25:43,760
Speaker 1: what did you think about Kelsey being able to go

480
00:25:44,080 --> 00:25:47,840
Speaker 1: and talk to Peter. I have such a problem with this.

481
00:25:48,040 --> 00:25:51,280
Speaker 1: I think it is an absolute unfair advantage. This has

482
00:25:51,320 --> 00:25:54,479
Speaker 1: got to stop. Now this is starting to pick up lately.

483
00:25:55,000 --> 00:25:58,120
Speaker 1: It didn't really happen on my season. I can't remember

484
00:25:58,280 --> 00:26:02,280
Speaker 1: Becca if it happened on yours. But thereafter people keep

485
00:26:02,400 --> 00:26:05,760
Speaker 1: getting to talk to the lead and it is not fair.

486
00:26:05,880 --> 00:26:09,920
Speaker 1: It is like it would infuriate me. It happened when

487
00:26:10,119 --> 00:26:13,960
Speaker 1: on Nick season with Karn, but it wasn't the same

488
00:26:13,960 --> 00:26:16,199
Speaker 1: as this. It wasn't because she went to him for drama.

489
00:26:16,280 --> 00:26:18,639
Speaker 1: She just went to have some alone time. Yeah, and

490
00:26:18,720 --> 00:26:23,560
Speaker 1: I just I just was so upset when I saw this.

491
00:26:23,640 --> 00:26:26,440
Speaker 1: What was How did you feel? I think I agree.

492
00:26:26,480 --> 00:26:30,359
Speaker 1: I think that there are certain things set up to

493
00:26:30,440 --> 00:26:34,240
Speaker 1: make the show work. The cocktail parties, the group date

494
00:26:34,640 --> 00:26:38,080
Speaker 1: after parties, that is when the girls have their time

495
00:26:38,200 --> 00:26:41,520
Speaker 1: with Peter, and it's and it should be fair and even.

496
00:26:41,600 --> 00:26:44,760
Speaker 1: And in this case, when everyone just wants to go

497
00:26:44,840 --> 00:26:48,080
Speaker 1: Willie Nilly and show up and talk to him whenever

498
00:26:48,119 --> 00:26:50,840
Speaker 1: they want, like, people are clearly going to pick up

499
00:26:50,880 --> 00:26:53,080
Speaker 1: on that and started doing it whenever they want. So

500
00:26:53,119 --> 00:26:57,040
Speaker 1: I do think it does give her definitely an unfair advantage.

501
00:26:58,280 --> 00:27:01,840
Speaker 1: Now my take on this is it's not like Kelsey

502
00:27:01,960 --> 00:27:04,720
Speaker 1: just got up and left the villa. And went walking

503
00:27:04,760 --> 00:27:07,040
Speaker 1: down the road to go and try and tell Peter.

504
00:27:07,240 --> 00:27:09,359
Speaker 1: You know, there are things set up. There is a

505
00:27:09,400 --> 00:27:13,080
Speaker 1: team of producers that had to have made that happen

506
00:27:13,520 --> 00:27:16,240
Speaker 1: because Kelsey has no idea where she's going. Let's be honest,

507
00:27:16,240 --> 00:27:19,040
Speaker 1: she's walking through Costa Rica without a phone. You're not

508
00:27:19,080 --> 00:27:22,040
Speaker 1: just going to find Peter randomly. So there definitely was

509
00:27:22,119 --> 00:27:24,040
Speaker 1: help and assistance in that case. So it wasn't just

510
00:27:24,160 --> 00:27:26,160
Speaker 1: Kelsey being like, oh, I'm gonna do this on my own.

511
00:27:26,720 --> 00:27:30,919
Speaker 1: That being said, I think that the time allotted for

512
00:27:31,000 --> 00:27:33,280
Speaker 1: these girls and Peter, and even Peter like he needs

513
00:27:33,280 --> 00:27:36,600
Speaker 1: some alone time. Let's be honest, this entire process is

514
00:27:36,680 --> 00:27:39,960
Speaker 1: very draining and exhausting at times, and sometimes you just

515
00:27:40,040 --> 00:27:42,520
Speaker 1: need to be alone to sift through things and to

516
00:27:42,600 --> 00:27:45,280
Speaker 1: process things and like have that moment for yourself. And

517
00:27:45,320 --> 00:27:48,119
Speaker 1: so if everyone's just dropping in on him, that's not

518
00:27:48,160 --> 00:27:52,960
Speaker 1: going to be healthy for anyone's mindset. Totally totally agree

519
00:27:53,000 --> 00:27:56,240
Speaker 1: with you. I mean, seriously, I know it's good TV,

520
00:27:56,840 --> 00:28:00,320
Speaker 1: but it's just so unfair, especially in this situation. I mean,

521
00:28:00,600 --> 00:28:03,879
Speaker 1: I might have been McKenna crying when he canceled that

522
00:28:03,960 --> 00:28:06,800
Speaker 1: cocktail party for the women. It's just and then I

523
00:28:06,840 --> 00:28:10,000
Speaker 1: guess Peter saying, well, hell no, let me rewind see,

524
00:28:10,000 --> 00:28:13,080
Speaker 1: Peter has really been frustrating me. Peter saying I have

525
00:28:13,160 --> 00:28:16,520
Speaker 1: the clarity that I need just by talking to Kelsey

526
00:28:17,280 --> 00:28:19,480
Speaker 1: when and I get it, he's not privy to seeing

527
00:28:19,520 --> 00:28:23,840
Speaker 1: her be a basket case that she has been this episode.

528
00:28:23,880 --> 00:28:25,600
Speaker 1: He is left with the impression that he had from

529
00:28:25,640 --> 00:28:28,160
Speaker 1: their one on one day and she was very calm

530
00:28:28,200 --> 00:28:30,919
Speaker 1: when she went and talked to him. But Peter giving

531
00:28:30,960 --> 00:28:34,480
Speaker 1: her a rose, just like he did with Eliah. Stop

532
00:28:34,560 --> 00:28:37,800
Speaker 1: giving out roses prior to the rose ceremony. Make them wait,

533
00:28:37,920 --> 00:28:40,520
Speaker 1: say I heard you. You don't need to give her

534
00:28:40,520 --> 00:28:42,560
Speaker 1: the reassurance right now, just say I heard you. I'm

535
00:28:42,560 --> 00:28:45,160
Speaker 1: going to take that into consideration and I'll see you tonight.

536
00:28:45,840 --> 00:28:47,920
Speaker 1: That was it for her to have that rose and

537
00:28:48,000 --> 00:28:51,080
Speaker 1: go back and then say, hey, ladies, by the way,

538
00:28:51,120 --> 00:28:54,120
Speaker 1: this is what I said. I mean, I would just

539
00:28:54,360 --> 00:28:57,320
Speaker 1: be buming and I am not taking up for Tammy.

540
00:28:57,320 --> 00:28:59,520
Speaker 1: Tammy is totally wrong in what she said. And I

541
00:28:59,560 --> 00:29:03,280
Speaker 1: get else wanting to defend herself, but do it at

542
00:29:03,280 --> 00:29:07,120
Speaker 1: the cocktail party. Yeah, definitely. And Peter didn't know. Peter

543
00:29:07,200 --> 00:29:09,840
Speaker 1: didn't even know that Tammy was saying that. What I

544
00:29:09,880 --> 00:29:14,680
Speaker 1: really want to say is um my point of view,

545
00:29:15,080 --> 00:29:18,640
Speaker 1: and I'm not trying to I'm not trying to say

546
00:29:18,680 --> 00:29:21,800
Speaker 1: that people's emotions and feelings aren't warranted because I think

547
00:29:21,920 --> 00:29:25,600
Speaker 1: it's it's okay to cry. I'm not saying that it's not.

548
00:29:25,760 --> 00:29:30,080
Speaker 1: I think from what I'm seeing is Kelsey does have

549
00:29:30,280 --> 00:29:33,240
Speaker 1: her emotions are a little bit too much at times,

550
00:29:33,280 --> 00:29:38,240
Speaker 1: and I think that she when she gets very overwhelmed,

551
00:29:38,480 --> 00:29:41,080
Speaker 1: her reaction is to, you know, to tear up and

552
00:29:41,080 --> 00:29:45,000
Speaker 1: to cry. And that's especially in this scenario, in the

553
00:29:45,000 --> 00:29:47,400
Speaker 1: situation of being a contestant on the Bachelor, like, you

554
00:29:47,480 --> 00:29:50,400
Speaker 1: definitely have to have some thick skin. So for me

555
00:29:50,480 --> 00:29:52,800
Speaker 1: to watch sometimes I'm like, Kelsey, buck up, like you.

556
00:29:53,120 --> 00:29:55,360
Speaker 1: He has told you multiple times he is into you.

557
00:29:55,480 --> 00:29:58,040
Speaker 1: He likes you, Like, don't get so wrapped up in

558
00:29:58,040 --> 00:30:02,760
Speaker 1: the emotions and being uncertain. But for Tammy to say,

559
00:30:02,960 --> 00:30:05,840
Speaker 1: what were her exact words were, Did she say emotionally

560
00:30:05,880 --> 00:30:10,840
Speaker 1: unstable or having a mental breakdown? Yeah? Sure, the mental

561
00:30:10,880 --> 00:30:14,800
Speaker 1: breakdown part. It's um. Again, I think that, especially in

562
00:30:14,800 --> 00:30:16,720
Speaker 1: this day and age, you have to use certain words

563
00:30:16,720 --> 00:30:19,479
Speaker 1: and phrases, and sometimes there are tricker words like bullying,

564
00:30:19,560 --> 00:30:21,800
Speaker 1: and we've talked about that in the past that I

565
00:30:21,800 --> 00:30:26,120
Speaker 1: think a mental breakdown gives it the extreme. And yes,

566
00:30:26,280 --> 00:30:29,040
Speaker 1: maybe Kelsey was in that moment crying and upset, and

567
00:30:29,040 --> 00:30:31,480
Speaker 1: we've seen her cry a lot thrown it, but I

568
00:30:31,520 --> 00:30:35,400
Speaker 1: think Tammy should have expressed that in a different way.

569
00:30:35,400 --> 00:30:39,160
Speaker 1: She shouldn't have said, hey, you know, Kelsey is emotionally

570
00:30:39,240 --> 00:30:42,560
Speaker 1: unstable and she's having a mental breakdown. She's just she.

571
00:30:43,400 --> 00:30:45,960
Speaker 1: If Tammy wanted to confront Peter about this and say anything,

572
00:30:45,960 --> 00:30:49,120
Speaker 1: it should have just been like, yeah, like she her

573
00:30:49,120 --> 00:30:53,560
Speaker 1: emotions aren't always like what do I want to say,

574
00:30:53,600 --> 00:30:56,480
Speaker 1: like even keeled and level, and they don't always match up,

575
00:30:56,480 --> 00:30:58,600
Speaker 1: and she does, like she does seem to be crying

576
00:30:59,160 --> 00:31:01,880
Speaker 1: by herself, and just maybe touch based on that. If

577
00:31:02,280 --> 00:31:04,640
Speaker 1: if that were the conversation that she wanted to get across,

578
00:31:05,120 --> 00:31:10,479
Speaker 1: it did not appear that way. Yeah it was. It

579
00:31:10,560 --> 00:31:12,800
Speaker 1: was a no for me, Tammy this week. It was

580
00:31:12,800 --> 00:31:16,640
Speaker 1: a serious no. And I'm I don't see it turning

581
00:31:16,640 --> 00:31:18,480
Speaker 1: around for her at this point. You could really see

582
00:31:18,520 --> 00:31:20,000
Speaker 1: the girls turn on her. I mean, the way she

583
00:31:20,160 --> 00:31:23,920
Speaker 1: went off on Sydney, it's I mean, I guess I

584
00:31:24,040 --> 00:31:26,160
Speaker 1: do kind of get a little bit of a mean

585
00:31:26,240 --> 00:31:28,600
Speaker 1: girl vibe from Sydney. I can see it, but I

586
00:31:28,600 --> 00:31:31,160
Speaker 1: don't know if that's really how she is or just

587
00:31:31,200 --> 00:31:34,120
Speaker 1: the fact that she's so unbothered, and so it's more

588
00:31:34,160 --> 00:31:38,040
Speaker 1: misunderstood because she does seem to be unbothered. But she

589
00:31:38,200 --> 00:31:42,160
Speaker 1: and Tammy went at it at the end of the episode,

590
00:31:42,440 --> 00:31:45,120
Speaker 1: so Peter cancels the rose ceremony, which I was a

591
00:31:45,120 --> 00:31:48,360
Speaker 1: little shocked by, but it sends the girls into a

592
00:31:48,480 --> 00:31:51,560
Speaker 1: complete tizzy. And that's when we see Tammy lashing out

593
00:31:51,560 --> 00:31:55,360
Speaker 1: at Sydney and back and forth, and then McKenna's crying,

594
00:31:55,440 --> 00:31:57,960
Speaker 1: and I think we saw Natasha even cry this week,

595
00:31:58,040 --> 00:32:02,000
Speaker 1: and Janne was that sheeah because she goes on with

596
00:32:02,040 --> 00:32:05,200
Speaker 1: theano she Anne is crying as well, and it's like,

597
00:32:05,280 --> 00:32:08,520
Speaker 1: I get it. This is a probably the only moment

598
00:32:08,600 --> 00:32:10,480
Speaker 1: so far that I felt sorry for the ladies in

599
00:32:10,520 --> 00:32:13,880
Speaker 1: the house, because more than ever, we are seeing the

600
00:32:14,000 --> 00:32:16,360
Speaker 1: lead not spending time with the girls in the house,

601
00:32:16,400 --> 00:32:19,800
Speaker 1: and it really is circulated between the ones that have

602
00:32:19,880 --> 00:32:22,920
Speaker 1: the drama, and it's not fair. It really isn't. And

603
00:32:23,000 --> 00:32:26,000
Speaker 1: I think Kelsey was the icing on the cake, her

604
00:32:26,040 --> 00:32:29,080
Speaker 1: getting that alone time, her taking. It did seem that

605
00:32:29,160 --> 00:32:31,840
Speaker 1: she took away from the cocktail party because Chris Harrison

606
00:32:32,560 --> 00:32:34,840
Speaker 1: being a little messy stern the pots said, well, he

607
00:32:34,880 --> 00:32:37,600
Speaker 1: has the clarity he needs, and he didn't. No one

608
00:32:37,640 --> 00:32:41,120
Speaker 1: knew that he had that until Kelsey had ventured over

609
00:32:41,160 --> 00:32:43,600
Speaker 1: to meet Peter. Obviously, or at least that's the way

610
00:32:43,600 --> 00:32:47,640
Speaker 1: it looks. McKenna and Tammy saying, excuse me, Peter cannot

611
00:32:47,640 --> 00:32:50,360
Speaker 1: talk to you before he dishes out the roses. May

612
00:32:50,440 --> 00:32:52,960
Speaker 1: or may not have affected his decision, but they definitely

613
00:32:53,040 --> 00:32:55,120
Speaker 1: got roses. At the end of the rose ceremony and

614
00:32:55,120 --> 00:33:00,520
Speaker 1: we say goodbye to Lexie and she Anne. Can I

615
00:33:00,560 --> 00:33:02,760
Speaker 1: just say I really like Lexei. I'm mad we didn't

616
00:33:02,800 --> 00:33:05,120
Speaker 1: get to see more of her. I'm always fond of redheads.

617
00:33:05,920 --> 00:33:08,160
Speaker 1: I think she's so pretty, you know what. I really

618
00:33:08,200 --> 00:33:11,880
Speaker 1: liked Alexei too, and so that I thought Lexie was

619
00:33:11,880 --> 00:33:15,120
Speaker 1: the mysterious one. I know that Peter kept saying that

620
00:33:15,160 --> 00:33:18,840
Speaker 1: Sidney was, but I think Lexi is like that sultry, sexy,

621
00:33:18,920 --> 00:33:24,080
Speaker 1: mysterious vixen. If yeah, no, no, no, no, no, no no,

622
00:33:24,360 --> 00:33:27,520
Speaker 1: totally see that, and she seems really level headed. She probably,

623
00:33:28,240 --> 00:33:31,760
Speaker 1: like Deandra, didn't open up and was going to use

624
00:33:31,800 --> 00:33:33,880
Speaker 1: this time because it's kind of mid season where you're like, Oh,

625
00:33:33,920 --> 00:33:35,840
Speaker 1: if I haven't opened up already, I really really need

626
00:33:35,880 --> 00:33:38,800
Speaker 1: to because I'm losing an opportunity. Are losing out an

627
00:33:38,800 --> 00:33:40,400
Speaker 1: opportunity for him to really get to know me. So

628
00:33:40,440 --> 00:33:42,360
Speaker 1: I was sad to see both of them go, And

629
00:33:42,400 --> 00:33:44,680
Speaker 1: I know she Anne felt like poor she Anne. She

630
00:33:44,920 --> 00:33:46,840
Speaker 1: every single time she tried to talk to him, somebody

631
00:33:46,880 --> 00:33:51,400
Speaker 1: interrupted her. But I was shocked when she Anne gave

632
00:33:51,480 --> 00:33:55,640
Speaker 1: him a warning and she said, quote, I know you're

633
00:33:55,640 --> 00:33:58,120
Speaker 1: trying to follow your heart. I want you to be

634
00:33:58,160 --> 00:34:00,400
Speaker 1: aware of some of the people in this house. Some

635
00:34:00,480 --> 00:34:03,080
Speaker 1: of the girls that are here. What you're seeing is

636
00:34:03,120 --> 00:34:07,240
Speaker 1: not who they are in quote Barry Katie Morton esque.

637
00:34:07,400 --> 00:34:11,279
Speaker 1: Remember when she gave Holton that warning. Yeah, And I

638
00:34:11,320 --> 00:34:14,960
Speaker 1: think it's something that Peter has questioned for a while

639
00:34:15,160 --> 00:34:20,279
Speaker 1: and now to have she Anne a girl who you know,

640
00:34:20,440 --> 00:34:22,960
Speaker 1: and she doesn't owe him anything because I don't think

641
00:34:22,960 --> 00:34:24,920
Speaker 1: she really got to know him though. I don't think

642
00:34:24,960 --> 00:34:28,279
Speaker 1: he allowed her to get to know either of them

643
00:34:28,440 --> 00:34:30,680
Speaker 1: on a deeper level, so she could have just hugged

644
00:34:30,760 --> 00:34:33,479
Speaker 1: him goodbye and walked away. I think that that kind

645
00:34:33,480 --> 00:34:36,400
Speaker 1: of hit home for him because now he's questioning, Okay,

646
00:34:36,520 --> 00:34:39,960
Speaker 1: you know I've said this before, and now she's also

647
00:34:40,040 --> 00:34:42,520
Speaker 1: bringing it up during her goodbye like what am I

648
00:34:42,560 --> 00:34:46,319
Speaker 1: missing here? Yeah? Like poor Peter again, he can't catch

649
00:34:46,360 --> 00:34:48,279
Speaker 1: a break. I know that's going to send him in

650
00:34:48,320 --> 00:34:51,359
Speaker 1: a tizzy because he thought he had clarity, right, Chris

651
00:34:51,400 --> 00:34:53,880
Speaker 1: Harrison's like, he has a clarity he needs and then

652
00:34:54,280 --> 00:34:57,080
Speaker 1: she Anne says what she does, and it's like, well, actually,

653
00:34:57,160 --> 00:34:59,719
Speaker 1: maybe I don't now. And let's be honest, Becca, as

654
00:35:00,480 --> 00:35:03,200
Speaker 1: you never have all the clarity that you want. You

655
00:35:03,320 --> 00:35:06,200
Speaker 1: just have to be confident in the decisions that you're making,

656
00:35:06,239 --> 00:35:10,680
Speaker 1: and that's all that you can really do. So I

657
00:35:10,719 --> 00:35:12,640
Speaker 1: can't wait to find out who she is talking about.

658
00:35:12,640 --> 00:35:15,520
Speaker 1: And I got some guesses. I got some guys I want.

659
00:35:15,760 --> 00:35:18,839
Speaker 1: I wish we had Shan in studio today because I

660
00:35:18,920 --> 00:35:21,080
Speaker 1: really want to know. You know, I have a feeling

661
00:35:21,120 --> 00:35:26,160
Speaker 1: that some few girls, but we'll see name one. Well,

662
00:35:26,160 --> 00:35:28,319
Speaker 1: I think, you know, if I have to say, I

663
00:35:28,320 --> 00:35:31,440
Speaker 1: think she's talking about Kelsey and I think she let

664
00:35:31,480 --> 00:35:34,960
Speaker 1: me get my handy dammy sheet up here. I was

665
00:35:34,960 --> 00:35:37,520
Speaker 1: gonna say Kelsey too. I was gonna say Kelsey and

666
00:35:37,520 --> 00:35:43,200
Speaker 1: and also I would maybe say Sydney just because when

667
00:35:43,239 --> 00:35:45,440
Speaker 1: they were going at it, I felt like when Sydney

668
00:35:45,440 --> 00:35:47,279
Speaker 1: and Tammy started fighting like that part kind of came

669
00:35:47,280 --> 00:35:50,239
Speaker 1: out of left field as well. And so, um, I

670
00:35:50,239 --> 00:35:54,240
Speaker 1: think there's more more that wasn't always shown that we're well,

671
00:35:54,280 --> 00:35:59,600
Speaker 1: I'll say Victoria he and the reason I'll say that

672
00:35:59,640 --> 00:36:02,600
Speaker 1: because I think her name was Savannah, but she was

673
00:36:02,640 --> 00:36:07,040
Speaker 1: the one who kept saying as if I've talked to them,

674
00:36:07,160 --> 00:36:10,920
Speaker 1: or I've talked to Victoria Pee and she's what she's

675
00:36:11,000 --> 00:36:13,759
Speaker 1: telling him, isn't what she told me? Remember, she kept

676
00:36:13,840 --> 00:36:16,680
Speaker 1: saying that there was that one girl, Savannah who's gone

677
00:36:16,680 --> 00:36:19,800
Speaker 1: home now, so we'll never know. But she did plant

678
00:36:19,800 --> 00:36:23,759
Speaker 1: those seeds. She said it more than once, and I thought, Okay,

679
00:36:24,640 --> 00:36:27,440
Speaker 1: I see what she did there, and I'm paying attention,

680
00:36:27,840 --> 00:36:30,200
Speaker 1: so I'm gonna go ahead and name her. All right, Well,

681
00:36:30,600 --> 00:36:33,360
Speaker 1: more to come, And by that more to come, I

682
00:36:33,400 --> 00:36:35,879
Speaker 1: mean we got DeAndre coming up next. So can't wait

683
00:36:35,920 --> 00:36:38,120
Speaker 1: to pick that apart and see what she's gonna say.

684
00:36:39,400 --> 00:36:41,920
Speaker 1: All right, bat Her Nation, we cannot wait to get

685
00:36:41,960 --> 00:36:45,200
Speaker 1: started today. We have a new guest who Rachel and

686
00:36:45,239 --> 00:36:48,200
Speaker 1: I have never formerly met, just on the phone calling

687
00:36:48,239 --> 00:36:54,520
Speaker 1: in from Texas is Deandra. Yes, ma'am. Hey, guys, we're

688
00:36:54,560 --> 00:36:57,759
Speaker 1: excited to have you. You are our first guest from

689
00:36:57,800 --> 00:37:04,160
Speaker 1: this season. That special. I know I'm special, I guess thanks,

690
00:37:04,200 --> 00:37:06,480
Speaker 1: guys are very special. Well, we can't wait to dive

691
00:37:06,560 --> 00:37:09,560
Speaker 1: right in. Obviously we have a lot to cover, um,

692
00:37:09,600 --> 00:37:11,880
Speaker 1: but we're just excited to get your take because, like

693
00:37:11,960 --> 00:37:13,880
Speaker 1: Rage said, you were the first girl from the season.

694
00:37:14,520 --> 00:37:17,080
Speaker 1: So we want the jews, we want the good details.

695
00:37:17,080 --> 00:37:20,399
Speaker 1: We want you to spill the tea, all of the things. Yeah,

696
00:37:20,440 --> 00:37:25,040
Speaker 1: don't hold back, don't hold back. Will We will poke

697
00:37:25,120 --> 00:37:27,400
Speaker 1: you until you just can't help it anymore and you

698
00:37:27,440 --> 00:37:30,000
Speaker 1: have to tell us. Literally can't wait for that, could

699
00:37:30,040 --> 00:37:33,799
Speaker 1: not wait. Okay, So, how has it been watching the

700
00:37:33,800 --> 00:37:36,480
Speaker 1: show from the outside perspective? Because I imagine like when

701
00:37:36,480 --> 00:37:38,320
Speaker 1: you're in it, you're in it. You're in this bubble.

702
00:37:38,560 --> 00:37:40,680
Speaker 1: We get it, and we've been there before. Now you

703
00:37:40,719 --> 00:37:42,600
Speaker 1: got to watch it now people know who you are.

704
00:37:42,840 --> 00:37:45,759
Speaker 1: So what has that been like to just watch it now? Um,

705
00:37:45,840 --> 00:37:47,799
Speaker 1: to watch from the outside, I actually feel like I'm

706
00:37:47,800 --> 00:37:50,560
Speaker 1: gathering more information and stuff is making more sense than

707
00:37:50,640 --> 00:37:53,160
Speaker 1: it was in the house, Like seeing everything set on

708
00:37:53,200 --> 00:37:55,480
Speaker 1: the dates that I wasn't involved in, and then like

709
00:37:55,600 --> 00:37:57,840
Speaker 1: the difference between like being in the house versus like

710
00:37:57,840 --> 00:38:00,440
Speaker 1: seeing everything from the outside. It's definitely good and it's

711
00:38:00,440 --> 00:38:02,600
Speaker 1: all starting to come together essentially. I feel like I'm

712
00:38:02,680 --> 00:38:05,319
Speaker 1: watching with everyone else as well. I'm about to poke

713
00:38:05,400 --> 00:38:07,920
Speaker 1: you already, just like off the top, like here we go.

714
00:38:08,120 --> 00:38:11,880
Speaker 1: What do you mean that you're getting more clarity and

715
00:38:12,120 --> 00:38:16,120
Speaker 1: understanding certain situations, Like which situation aren't you talking about?

716
00:38:16,200 --> 00:38:19,680
Speaker 1: And which people I mean? So I mean most recently

717
00:38:19,920 --> 00:38:21,640
Speaker 1: or I mean not most recently, but like with the

718
00:38:21,680 --> 00:38:25,040
Speaker 1: whole Alliance Sydney drama, So I wasn't on that date,

719
00:38:25,040 --> 00:38:26,719
Speaker 1: so I didn't really get the full picture of my hair.

720
00:38:26,760 --> 00:38:29,680
Speaker 1: Everything went down and you know what was exactly said,

721
00:38:30,000 --> 00:38:32,360
Speaker 1: So like now watching it, I was in the house obviously,

722
00:38:32,400 --> 00:38:34,560
Speaker 1: so coming back by my my own business, like if

723
00:38:34,560 --> 00:38:36,520
Speaker 1: someone doesn't want to tell me something, I'm like fine.

724
00:38:37,560 --> 00:38:40,080
Speaker 1: So now seeing how it went down, I'm like, oh, okay,

725
00:38:40,280 --> 00:38:43,239
Speaker 1: that's you know, that's how one. Okay, So I want

726
00:38:43,239 --> 00:38:46,920
Speaker 1: to backtrack a little bit because I want to know

727
00:38:47,239 --> 00:38:50,799
Speaker 1: what girls you were pretty close within the house who

728
00:38:50,880 --> 00:38:53,600
Speaker 1: you kind of stayed away from, um, you know, I know,

729
00:38:53,960 --> 00:38:57,200
Speaker 1: living with twenty plus women. It's always difficult all these

730
00:38:57,200 --> 00:39:00,239
Speaker 1: different energies. So give us a little inside scoop of

731
00:39:00,280 --> 00:39:01,840
Speaker 1: the women that you were close with and who you

732
00:39:01,920 --> 00:39:04,959
Speaker 1: kind of steered clear of. I mean I was close

733
00:39:05,000 --> 00:39:06,759
Speaker 1: with a lot of girls in the house. I mean

734
00:39:06,880 --> 00:39:14,839
Speaker 1: definitely Kiera, Alexa, Kelly Madison. I was even a little

735
00:39:14,880 --> 00:39:17,480
Speaker 1: close to Hannah An because we were roommates, and like Alan,

736
00:39:17,800 --> 00:39:20,439
Speaker 1: you know all of them, Tammy, But you know, there's

737
00:39:20,440 --> 00:39:23,040
Speaker 1: just a couple of girls that Obviously everyone has different personalities.

738
00:39:23,080 --> 00:39:24,879
Speaker 1: You're not going to be best friends with everyone. There's

739
00:39:24,920 --> 00:39:27,440
Speaker 1: thirty girls. I mean I wasn't super close with Sydney

740
00:39:27,520 --> 00:39:30,960
Speaker 1: or Natasha or you know, I wasn't super close with

741
00:39:31,040 --> 00:39:33,640
Speaker 1: Kelsey either. So I mean there's just a couple of girls.

742
00:39:33,640 --> 00:39:36,000
Speaker 1: Not that I steered necessarily clear of them, but I

743
00:39:36,000 --> 00:39:38,880
Speaker 1: could just tell, you know, we probably don't need to

744
00:39:38,920 --> 00:39:43,160
Speaker 1: force anything as far as like trying to connect right well,

745
00:39:45,120 --> 00:39:48,279
Speaker 1: was it, Tammy? Yeah? Tammy said something in this episode

746
00:39:48,680 --> 00:39:52,920
Speaker 1: where she referenced that Sydney is a diva and Sydney

747
00:39:52,960 --> 00:39:55,759
Speaker 1: has her posse and her click with her. Is that

748
00:39:55,800 --> 00:39:58,360
Speaker 1: what you witnessed too, Because you said you weren't that

749
00:39:58,360 --> 00:40:02,320
Speaker 1: close with Sydney. I mean I think that when you're yeah,

750
00:40:02,360 --> 00:40:05,399
Speaker 1: I mean posse and click, I guess it could feel

751
00:40:05,400 --> 00:40:08,080
Speaker 1: that way a little bit. But yeah, I kind of

752
00:40:08,080 --> 00:40:10,759
Speaker 1: got that vibe too. And again, like I'm my my

753
00:40:10,760 --> 00:40:12,719
Speaker 1: own business. I'm not going to push anything, but I

754
00:40:12,719 --> 00:40:14,200
Speaker 1: mean I can agree with Anny, like I kind of

755
00:40:14,200 --> 00:40:17,160
Speaker 1: got that vibe. Was there anyone that you really were

756
00:40:17,239 --> 00:40:20,919
Speaker 1: like this girl's not for me. She just is rubbing

757
00:40:21,000 --> 00:40:23,800
Speaker 1: me the wrong way. I mean again, it's hard for

758
00:40:23,840 --> 00:40:26,200
Speaker 1: me because I'm so unbothered, like no one can rub

759
00:40:26,239 --> 00:40:28,319
Speaker 1: me the wrong way. But I just didn't get good vibes. Yeah,

760
00:40:28,360 --> 00:40:30,680
Speaker 1: from the whole Sydney situation, especially everything that happened with

761
00:40:30,719 --> 00:40:33,360
Speaker 1: a Laya, I just wasn't getting good vibes. You're right, Okay,

762
00:40:33,400 --> 00:40:35,920
Speaker 1: So when you say you're not getting good vibes, is

763
00:40:35,960 --> 00:40:38,399
Speaker 1: it that you didn't agree? Because now you've you've gone

764
00:40:38,440 --> 00:40:40,719
Speaker 1: back and you've watched it, so you've heard one thing.

765
00:40:40,760 --> 00:40:42,360
Speaker 1: When you were there, I know you weren't pressing on

766
00:40:42,360 --> 00:40:43,680
Speaker 1: the date, but you get back to the house and

767
00:40:43,719 --> 00:40:45,200
Speaker 1: we all know how it goes. You were all chit

768
00:40:45,280 --> 00:40:49,480
Speaker 1: chatting talking about it, like, girl, what happened? What she did? What. Yeah,

769
00:40:49,560 --> 00:40:52,279
Speaker 1: I would stay up all night just to hear those conversations.

770
00:40:52,640 --> 00:40:56,200
Speaker 1: But you now have seen a laya versus Sydney and

771
00:40:56,239 --> 00:40:59,080
Speaker 1: how the whole thing played out. Whose side are you

772
00:40:59,200 --> 00:41:02,840
Speaker 1: on or what can you give us as far as

773
00:41:02,880 --> 00:41:06,120
Speaker 1: some of the information we didn't see when it comes

774
00:41:06,120 --> 00:41:09,319
Speaker 1: to Sydney basically calling Alia out, and then you kind

775
00:41:09,320 --> 00:41:12,120
Speaker 1: of saw the trickle down effect of all the girls

776
00:41:12,200 --> 00:41:16,360
Speaker 1: basically saying yeah, this is how la is. I personally

777
00:41:16,440 --> 00:41:20,120
Speaker 1: liked Leia. I never got fake vibes from Alia, So

778
00:41:20,320 --> 00:41:22,440
Speaker 1: when that whole situation happened, I was a little confused,

779
00:41:22,440 --> 00:41:25,640
Speaker 1: like where was coming from? Like what made you feel like,

780
00:41:25,680 --> 00:41:27,879
Speaker 1: what actual facts do you have that Leia is fake?

781
00:41:28,520 --> 00:41:30,880
Speaker 1: So like watching it back and like seeing how Sydney

782
00:41:30,880 --> 00:41:33,080
Speaker 1: approached it on the date, kind of it seemed like

783
00:41:33,120 --> 00:41:37,920
Speaker 1: a little manipulative, like because I feel like Alia was

784
00:41:37,960 --> 00:41:40,080
Speaker 1: really taken off guard because the whole d work thing

785
00:41:40,160 --> 00:41:42,280
Speaker 1: that came out of left field for me. And yeah,

786
00:41:42,280 --> 00:41:44,600
Speaker 1: you know the fact that someone didn't stand up and say,

787
00:41:44,680 --> 00:41:46,399
Speaker 1: what does it have to do with anything? First off,

788
00:41:46,440 --> 00:41:48,399
Speaker 1: that has nothing to do with your love for Peter

789
00:41:48,520 --> 00:41:50,759
Speaker 1: or your relationship with Peter. He's not looking for a

790
00:41:50,800 --> 00:41:53,560
Speaker 1: sugar mama, doesn't matter what you do for work. That's

791
00:41:53,600 --> 00:41:57,000
Speaker 1: just personally like that rubbed me the wrong way. I

792
00:41:57,040 --> 00:41:59,520
Speaker 1: think that she should have gone directly to la first

793
00:41:59,520 --> 00:42:01,520
Speaker 1: and just been like, hey, I think you're fake. This

794
00:42:01,560 --> 00:42:04,239
Speaker 1: is why I think you're fake, Dada. Let's hash it

795
00:42:04,280 --> 00:42:06,319
Speaker 1: out right here and then bring it up to Peter

796
00:42:06,440 --> 00:42:09,680
Speaker 1: once it was resolved, or you know, whatever they decided

797
00:42:09,719 --> 00:42:12,520
Speaker 1: to do, right, I like to go direct to the source. Yeah,

798
00:42:12,560 --> 00:42:15,480
Speaker 1: same girl. I appreciate that. So in terms of then

799
00:42:15,520 --> 00:42:18,120
Speaker 1: Alaia and Victoria Pee, we saw it play out a

800
00:42:18,120 --> 00:42:21,799
Speaker 1: little bit where, you know, Victoria Pee mentioned that they

801
00:42:21,800 --> 00:42:24,440
Speaker 1: weren't really friends, that they didn't know each other. Alia

802
00:42:25,080 --> 00:42:27,040
Speaker 1: had said that they were, but they wanted to keep

803
00:42:27,040 --> 00:42:29,879
Speaker 1: it under wraps in the house though, did they Did

804
00:42:29,920 --> 00:42:31,719
Speaker 1: they come across as friends like they had known each

805
00:42:31,760 --> 00:42:34,719
Speaker 1: other pretty well or what was that? Like? I didn't

806
00:42:34,719 --> 00:42:38,319
Speaker 1: actually see them interact a whole lot, so I would

807
00:42:38,360 --> 00:42:41,120
Speaker 1: have never assumed or excuse me, I would have never

808
00:42:41,200 --> 00:42:44,799
Speaker 1: assumed anything. But I wasn't also paying attention to it

809
00:42:44,800 --> 00:42:47,160
Speaker 1: because the whole Victoria Pe thing. For me, again, I

810
00:42:47,200 --> 00:42:49,239
Speaker 1: wasn't really a part of that. Like I didn't get

811
00:42:49,280 --> 00:42:52,280
Speaker 1: to see her conversations with Peter and everything happening. So

812
00:42:52,440 --> 00:42:53,960
Speaker 1: but I mean, if she felt some type of way

813
00:42:54,000 --> 00:42:56,279
Speaker 1: or something happened previously that was facts, then I have

814
00:42:56,320 --> 00:42:58,160
Speaker 1: to respect that and be like, Okay, so maybe there

815
00:42:58,200 --> 00:43:01,680
Speaker 1: was a situation that happened, but me and my take

816
00:43:01,719 --> 00:43:04,279
Speaker 1: on it, I never thought Aliah was fake. So you

817
00:43:04,320 --> 00:43:07,319
Speaker 1: were friendly with Leia? Did Alia ever mentioned to you

818
00:43:07,440 --> 00:43:10,040
Speaker 1: that she was in the same paget with Victoria Pee,

819
00:43:10,040 --> 00:43:12,960
Speaker 1: that they had traveled to Vegas together, that they were friendly.

820
00:43:14,040 --> 00:43:19,840
Speaker 1: Were those conversations Ever had, especially when she got back before.

821
00:43:19,960 --> 00:43:22,040
Speaker 1: I mean, I mean she mentioned that they'd done pageants

822
00:43:22,040 --> 00:43:24,839
Speaker 1: like obviously Miss Texas, Miss Louisiana, so you know they

823
00:43:24,880 --> 00:43:27,120
Speaker 1: knew each other through that. But as far as like

824
00:43:27,120 --> 00:43:32,760
Speaker 1: a Vegas trip or anything that, I never would have known. Okay, okay,

825
00:43:33,320 --> 00:43:37,200
Speaker 1: from the outside watching in Danne, it is a shit

826
00:43:37,280 --> 00:43:43,320
Speaker 1: show and it's it is exhausted, and it's Becca and

827
00:43:43,360 --> 00:43:46,560
Speaker 1: I were saying this, it's we have to detox. Becca

828
00:43:46,680 --> 00:43:49,200
Speaker 1: has to take steps away, she has to break up

829
00:43:49,239 --> 00:43:54,800
Speaker 1: watching the episode and we are only getting two hours

830
00:43:54,920 --> 00:43:59,879
Speaker 1: of what is a week's worth of filming? Is this real?

831
00:44:00,480 --> 00:44:02,960
Speaker 1: Is this? Was this your reality? When you were in

832
00:44:03,040 --> 00:44:06,480
Speaker 1: it because we can only imagine. Please speak on what

833
00:44:06,600 --> 00:44:10,480
Speaker 1: the atmosphere in the house was like. Please. I mean,

834
00:44:10,520 --> 00:44:12,359
Speaker 1: if you guys are tired, I think I aged six

835
00:44:12,480 --> 00:44:15,200
Speaker 1: years from this drama. I actually think I have gray

836
00:44:15,239 --> 00:44:19,160
Speaker 1: hair now. I just ear yeah, I mean I'm getting

837
00:44:19,200 --> 00:44:22,080
Speaker 1: gray hairs watching this exactly. I mean. The thing is,

838
00:44:22,200 --> 00:44:24,399
Speaker 1: I just don't understand why we spent so much time,

839
00:44:24,560 --> 00:44:26,239
Speaker 1: Like I don't know why Peter spend so much time

840
00:44:26,280 --> 00:44:28,040
Speaker 1: trying to figure out what was going on here. I'm like,

841
00:44:28,080 --> 00:44:29,799
Speaker 1: at the end of the day, you decide whether or

842
00:44:29,800 --> 00:44:32,719
Speaker 1: not you believe whoever speaking, and then take action based

843
00:44:32,760 --> 00:44:34,560
Speaker 1: on that. I don't think we need to go ask

844
00:44:34,640 --> 00:44:36,759
Speaker 1: everyone in the house their opinion, Peter. This is about

845
00:44:36,800 --> 00:44:38,359
Speaker 1: you and a Layah. If you feel like she's fake

846
00:44:38,440 --> 00:44:40,120
Speaker 1: or you feel like what she's saying is not true,

847
00:44:40,400 --> 00:44:42,560
Speaker 1: you decide how you want to, you know, take care

848
00:44:42,600 --> 00:44:46,000
Speaker 1: of this well. That you bring a good point up

849
00:44:46,040 --> 00:44:47,480
Speaker 1: that I kind of want to lay her on top

850
00:44:47,520 --> 00:44:49,880
Speaker 1: of that, because you know, I'm sure a lot of

851
00:44:49,920 --> 00:44:52,800
Speaker 1: that drama took away from your individual time with Poper

852
00:44:52,880 --> 00:44:57,160
Speaker 1: and your conversations, and so when you didn't hear your

853
00:44:57,239 --> 00:45:00,680
Speaker 1: name and get that Rose what was going through your mind?

854
00:45:00,680 --> 00:45:02,560
Speaker 1: How are you feeling in that moment? Were you more

855
00:45:02,600 --> 00:45:05,600
Speaker 1: angry if like I, all of this time was just

856
00:45:05,719 --> 00:45:08,359
Speaker 1: wasted on these girls bickering when it could have been

857
00:45:08,360 --> 00:45:12,560
Speaker 1: like him actually getting to know me. Oh, I was furious.

858
00:45:12,719 --> 00:45:15,920
Speaker 1: I mean it was more like confusion, like, Hey, you

859
00:45:15,960 --> 00:45:18,120
Speaker 1: are on this journey to find you know, the woman

860
00:45:18,120 --> 00:45:20,520
Speaker 1: who's for you. Why are we spending so much of

861
00:45:20,560 --> 00:45:23,360
Speaker 1: this time on the same six girls trying to figure

862
00:45:23,360 --> 00:45:26,080
Speaker 1: out about one girl's drama or like two girls drama

863
00:45:26,320 --> 00:45:30,000
Speaker 1: instead of you have so many beautiful, smart, ambitious women here.

864
00:45:30,640 --> 00:45:32,840
Speaker 1: Let's say screw the drama for a second. Let me

865
00:45:32,840 --> 00:45:34,600
Speaker 1: get to know these other girls. It was like almost

866
00:45:34,640 --> 00:45:36,640
Speaker 1: like he was rewarding the drama, Like I should have

867
00:45:36,680 --> 00:45:38,000
Speaker 1: jumped in that drama. I should have been like, you

868
00:45:38,000 --> 00:45:39,560
Speaker 1: know what, I know one of these girls from before

869
00:45:39,640 --> 00:45:41,440
Speaker 1: just made something up so that he'd maybe pay attention

870
00:45:41,440 --> 00:45:43,279
Speaker 1: to me. I don't know being for you right now,

871
00:45:43,360 --> 00:45:47,160
Speaker 1: I think you said it perfectly. I agree with your sentiment,

872
00:45:47,160 --> 00:45:49,359
Speaker 1: and I would probably be feeling the exact same way

873
00:45:49,400 --> 00:45:51,640
Speaker 1: if I were you. You know, there are, as you said,

874
00:45:51,800 --> 00:45:55,400
Speaker 1: so many beautiful, educated, sort girls, and that's not coming

875
00:45:55,600 --> 00:45:59,320
Speaker 1: through half the time because it's just revolving around this

876
00:46:00,040 --> 00:46:04,520
Speaker 1: craziness with these women. Did you this is I'm very

877
00:46:04,600 --> 00:46:07,920
Speaker 1: interested to know. So did you Living in the house,

878
00:46:09,000 --> 00:46:12,200
Speaker 1: of course, you can only see so much of Peter's

879
00:46:12,200 --> 00:46:15,320
Speaker 1: interaction and time with these girls. There's a lot, you know,

880
00:46:15,400 --> 00:46:17,279
Speaker 1: especially when he's on the one on ones and in

881
00:46:17,360 --> 00:46:20,160
Speaker 1: the alone conversations that he has that you miss out on.

882
00:46:20,280 --> 00:46:23,040
Speaker 1: But were there girls at the forefront that you knew

883
00:46:23,320 --> 00:46:26,719
Speaker 1: living with everyone? Like Okay, he's like these girls are

884
00:46:26,719 --> 00:46:28,560
Speaker 1: going to the top, They're going to hometowns. Like he's

885
00:46:28,600 --> 00:46:31,239
Speaker 1: definitely into a handful of them. Did you feel that ever?

886
00:46:32,200 --> 00:46:34,600
Speaker 1: I did? I mean based on what I could see

887
00:46:34,640 --> 00:46:36,839
Speaker 1: from chemistry like going on dates and stuff like that

888
00:46:37,239 --> 00:46:39,040
Speaker 1: with a lot of the girls, Like of course you

889
00:46:39,080 --> 00:46:41,480
Speaker 1: can see Hannah AND's chemistry. Of course, you can see

890
00:46:41,480 --> 00:46:43,920
Speaker 1: that Kelly and him had the history, they have the chemistry,

891
00:46:44,160 --> 00:46:46,719
Speaker 1: you know, Victorian pe like, they obviously have some kind

892
00:46:46,760 --> 00:46:49,520
Speaker 1: of chemistry Madison right off the jump, like I could

893
00:46:49,520 --> 00:46:52,359
Speaker 1: just tell that they had, you know, a connection. So

894
00:46:52,360 --> 00:46:54,640
Speaker 1: it's like yeah, you know, like at the other day,

895
00:46:54,640 --> 00:46:56,600
Speaker 1: like there's a couple of the girls that he feels

896
00:46:56,600 --> 00:46:59,279
Speaker 1: more strongly attached to, but I never thought that it

897
00:46:59,360 --> 00:47:01,040
Speaker 1: would take away from him still wanting to get to

898
00:47:01,080 --> 00:47:04,880
Speaker 1: know the other girls, right, yeah, I mean watching back,

899
00:47:05,840 --> 00:47:09,040
Speaker 1: I know how you felt about Peter when you were

900
00:47:09,080 --> 00:47:12,080
Speaker 1: actually there, because you know we did. We mentioned this

901
00:47:12,160 --> 00:47:15,279
Speaker 1: on the last podcast, but kudos to you and Natasha

902
00:47:15,400 --> 00:47:18,440
Speaker 1: for stepping up and saying exactly how you feel. And

903
00:47:18,480 --> 00:47:21,799
Speaker 1: then they scan the room of women and nobody else

904
00:47:21,800 --> 00:47:24,719
Speaker 1: said anything. So I was like, good for them for speaking.

905
00:47:25,040 --> 00:47:27,480
Speaker 1: What is the sentiment in the house at this point

906
00:47:27,480 --> 00:47:30,399
Speaker 1: with all the drama, But so you felt about Peter

907
00:47:30,640 --> 00:47:33,600
Speaker 1: one way. Now you're watching it, do you have the

908
00:47:33,760 --> 00:47:37,200
Speaker 1: same feelings towards him? Do you empathize with him at all?

909
00:47:37,280 --> 00:47:41,680
Speaker 1: Are you frustrated by his actions? I mean, it's his

910
00:47:41,760 --> 00:47:44,040
Speaker 1: love story, so I want to empathize with him because

911
00:47:44,160 --> 00:47:45,800
Speaker 1: if he really wants to get down to the bottom

912
00:47:45,800 --> 00:47:48,480
Speaker 1: of it and you know, with whatever he's going through, great,

913
00:47:48,640 --> 00:47:51,520
Speaker 1: But it's frustrating from my end because you know, why

914
00:47:51,640 --> 00:47:55,000
Speaker 1: was I there? If you know you're not really that

915
00:47:55,120 --> 00:47:58,040
Speaker 1: interested in I mean, looking at the other connections, I'm like,

916
00:47:58,080 --> 00:48:00,239
Speaker 1: now I understand why I went home. You know, isn't

917
00:48:00,280 --> 00:48:03,279
Speaker 1: on a table with my ankles up I wasn't, you know,

918
00:48:03,600 --> 00:48:07,200
Speaker 1: doing all this. I wasn't forehead touching and all that stuff.

919
00:48:07,239 --> 00:48:10,160
Speaker 1: So I mean I was a little frustrated looking back

920
00:48:10,200 --> 00:48:13,120
Speaker 1: on it, like, Okay, I mean you missed out on

921
00:48:13,160 --> 00:48:16,359
Speaker 1: some really great people, and you know, missed out on me.

922
00:48:16,560 --> 00:48:19,279
Speaker 1: I feel like you never really saw me. Um. But

923
00:48:19,320 --> 00:48:21,080
Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, I'm really happy that Natasha and I

924
00:48:21,120 --> 00:48:23,359
Speaker 1: finally got to say our piece. But obviously he wasn't

925
00:48:23,400 --> 00:48:26,520
Speaker 1: too impressed because he sent me home right after a wait, wait,

926
00:48:26,640 --> 00:48:30,680
Speaker 1: who was on a table with their ankles up? I'm

927
00:48:30,680 --> 00:48:34,759
Speaker 1: sorry I missed that. I can't let that go. I

928
00:48:34,800 --> 00:48:38,279
Speaker 1: can't let that go. Did we miss something? No, you

929
00:48:38,320 --> 00:48:40,640
Speaker 1: already thought. I mean, I'm just kidding, but it's McKenna,

930
00:48:40,680 --> 00:48:42,080
Speaker 1: you know, like when he picked up and put on

931
00:48:42,120 --> 00:48:43,920
Speaker 1: the desk and ever in front of her because their

932
00:48:43,960 --> 00:48:48,719
Speaker 1: ankles are like straight up. Oh, I'm sorry. That's hilarious though,

933
00:48:48,880 --> 00:48:53,680
Speaker 1: that's hilarious. So Deandra, you know, like you just touched on.

934
00:48:53,840 --> 00:48:55,600
Speaker 1: We didn't see all that much of you. We didn't

935
00:48:55,640 --> 00:48:57,160
Speaker 1: hear your side of things. So this is why we're

936
00:48:57,160 --> 00:48:59,600
Speaker 1: so happy to have you here today and get your take.

937
00:49:00,440 --> 00:49:05,120
Speaker 1: Just through expression expressing this frustration is there anything that

938
00:49:05,239 --> 00:49:07,880
Speaker 1: you wish when you were on the show that you

939
00:49:07,880 --> 00:49:12,319
Speaker 1: would have done differently or changed. I think I wish

940
00:49:12,520 --> 00:49:15,200
Speaker 1: I would have been more aggressive. I felt like my

941
00:49:15,280 --> 00:49:17,759
Speaker 1: whole motto was if Peter has a connection with me,

942
00:49:17,880 --> 00:49:19,800
Speaker 1: he has a natural connection with me. And I don't,

943
00:49:20,120 --> 00:49:22,239
Speaker 1: you know, want to push anything. I want it to

944
00:49:22,320 --> 00:49:25,080
Speaker 1: be as naturally forming as possible. But I guess I

945
00:49:25,120 --> 00:49:26,879
Speaker 1: wish I would have been more aggressive because I see

946
00:49:26,920 --> 00:49:28,680
Speaker 1: the other girls who were aggressive, and I guess he

947
00:49:28,840 --> 00:49:33,720
Speaker 1: like really appreciated that, like, you know, showing affection, more affection,

948
00:49:33,840 --> 00:49:35,480
Speaker 1: Like I kind of took a step back and was like, hey,

949
00:49:35,680 --> 00:49:37,719
Speaker 1: you know, like if he feels something with me, he's gonna,

950
00:49:37,760 --> 00:49:39,920
Speaker 1: like it's gonna be mutual. We're gonna, you know, meet

951
00:49:39,960 --> 00:49:42,799
Speaker 1: each other halfway. But when they're thirty girls, you can't

952
00:49:42,840 --> 00:49:44,879
Speaker 1: meet halfway. You're gonna have to take the extra step.

953
00:49:45,000 --> 00:49:46,440
Speaker 1: So I feel like I wish I would have been

954
00:49:46,480 --> 00:49:48,120
Speaker 1: more aggressive. But at the end of the day, like

955
00:49:49,040 --> 00:49:50,440
Speaker 1: the regrets, it as what it is. You know, we

956
00:49:50,520 --> 00:49:52,840
Speaker 1: weren't made for each other, I guess, and that's just

957
00:49:53,560 --> 00:49:57,880
Speaker 1: our story. Looking back now, does Pete feel like your type?

958
00:49:58,040 --> 00:50:00,279
Speaker 1: Like outside of the show, if you were to meet

959
00:50:00,360 --> 00:50:02,600
Speaker 1: him in a bar. Is he's somebody that you would

960
00:50:02,960 --> 00:50:07,239
Speaker 1: gravitate towards and go for. I would say yes and no.

961
00:50:07,600 --> 00:50:10,600
Speaker 1: He was very comforting and like we had good conversations.

962
00:50:10,680 --> 00:50:12,799
Speaker 1: But now, looking back on the conversations that he's happen

963
00:50:12,840 --> 00:50:15,319
Speaker 1: with other girls, I don't necessarily think that we had

964
00:50:15,320 --> 00:50:18,440
Speaker 1: all that much in common. And he once told me

965
00:50:18,480 --> 00:50:21,160
Speaker 1: his favorite comfort food was Kraft mac and cheese. And

966
00:50:21,280 --> 00:50:23,080
Speaker 1: then once he said that, I just knew we weren't

967
00:50:23,080 --> 00:50:24,879
Speaker 1: made for each other because I was like, homemade mac

968
00:50:24,920 --> 00:50:27,320
Speaker 1: and cheese over Kraft mac and cheese. Sweetie, come on,

969
00:50:27,800 --> 00:50:31,959
Speaker 1: what are we doing? Hilarious love that, you know, coming

970
00:50:32,040 --> 00:50:35,640
Speaker 1: to somebody who loves all every single type of mac

971
00:50:35,680 --> 00:50:37,960
Speaker 1: and cheese imaginable. You know, I see both sides to

972
00:50:38,080 --> 00:50:45,960
Speaker 1: that way. Oh wow, Becca, you're like dander and I clearly,

973
00:50:46,040 --> 00:50:49,439
Speaker 1: apparently according to her, won't work out. Unfortunately, I'm saying,

974
00:50:49,600 --> 00:50:52,879
Speaker 1: oh my gosh, I don't even like cheese. So I'm

975
00:50:52,920 --> 00:51:01,200
Speaker 1: completely taken out between us. We all so you. I

976
00:51:01,400 --> 00:51:04,160
Speaker 1: was shocked Deandrew to actually see you go home. I

977
00:51:04,280 --> 00:51:05,960
Speaker 1: know we didn't see a lot of you, but you're

978
00:51:06,360 --> 00:51:11,080
Speaker 1: gorgeous and I really appreciated you, like I said, stepping

979
00:51:11,200 --> 00:51:15,160
Speaker 1: up and really expressing how you feel. And as you mentioned,

980
00:51:15,239 --> 00:51:17,800
Speaker 1: Peter does like a confident woman who says what's on

981
00:51:17,880 --> 00:51:21,440
Speaker 1: her mind. And so I felt like, you know, we

982
00:51:21,840 --> 00:51:23,680
Speaker 1: I don't. You know, there's so much we don't see.

983
00:51:23,719 --> 00:51:25,120
Speaker 1: So I don't know if Peter got to see you.

984
00:51:25,200 --> 00:51:28,240
Speaker 1: But oh, and then you killed it on the football field.

985
00:51:28,320 --> 00:51:32,600
Speaker 1: I mean, thank god, come on, you were killing it.

986
00:51:33,320 --> 00:51:35,239
Speaker 1: As a football fan, I was very very proud of you.

987
00:51:35,360 --> 00:51:38,600
Speaker 1: So I was shocked. So how did you feel when

988
00:51:38,680 --> 00:51:42,120
Speaker 1: your name wasn't called for a Rows? I was hurt,

989
00:51:42,719 --> 00:51:46,320
Speaker 1: really hurt. The conversation that Peter and I had before

990
00:51:46,360 --> 00:51:48,080
Speaker 1: I got sent home was not a I'm gonna send

991
00:51:48,120 --> 00:51:50,680
Speaker 1: you home conversation. It was like, dander, I see you.

992
00:51:51,160 --> 00:51:52,719
Speaker 1: You know, I see that you put an effort on

993
00:51:52,760 --> 00:51:55,719
Speaker 1: the football field, because listen, I've never played tackle football before.

994
00:51:55,800 --> 00:51:58,560
Speaker 1: But what I tell you, I gave it my all

995
00:51:58,600 --> 00:52:01,080
Speaker 1: because I was like, maybe Peter will appreciate this, this

996
00:52:01,200 --> 00:52:04,560
Speaker 1: is me putting forth effort. I just was shocked. I

997
00:52:04,680 --> 00:52:06,759
Speaker 1: was like, okay, I mean if you don't see me

998
00:52:06,840 --> 00:52:11,560
Speaker 1: after I led our team to meet halfway and you know,

999
00:52:11,760 --> 00:52:14,200
Speaker 1: I don't know, I just was frustrated with the whole situation.

1000
00:52:14,680 --> 00:52:16,880
Speaker 1: I spoke my mind and I wanted him to hear me,

1001
00:52:17,040 --> 00:52:20,759
Speaker 1: and it didn't resonate well with him, I guess, and

1002
00:52:21,280 --> 00:52:23,799
Speaker 1: I just have to say it is what it is. Well,

1003
00:52:24,400 --> 00:52:27,040
Speaker 1: I think what's frustrating, and so please correct me if

1004
00:52:27,040 --> 00:52:29,399
Speaker 1: I'm wrong, because I have to try to remind people. Yes,

1005
00:52:29,560 --> 00:52:31,359
Speaker 1: Becca and I have been on the Bachelor and then

1006
00:52:31,360 --> 00:52:34,359
Speaker 1: we've been Bachelorettes, but a lot of times people want

1007
00:52:34,520 --> 00:52:37,960
Speaker 1: us to assume what is done behind the scenes, and

1008
00:52:38,160 --> 00:52:40,600
Speaker 1: Becca and I are like, we can't do that if

1009
00:52:40,680 --> 00:52:43,120
Speaker 1: we weren't a part of that season. So we watch

1010
00:52:43,239 --> 00:52:47,319
Speaker 1: it as viewers and we critique the season in that way.

1011
00:52:47,880 --> 00:52:51,640
Speaker 1: So watching as a viewer, it is it was frustrating

1012
00:52:51,719 --> 00:52:53,560
Speaker 1: for us because it seems like there were so many

1013
00:52:53,640 --> 00:52:57,440
Speaker 1: of you who truly didn't get time with Peter. Is

1014
00:52:57,520 --> 00:53:00,319
Speaker 1: that really the was that really the case was really

1015
00:53:00,400 --> 00:53:04,200
Speaker 1: focused on just those certain you know, six seven girls

1016
00:53:04,280 --> 00:53:06,719
Speaker 1: that were with the drama? Or where are there things

1017
00:53:06,800 --> 00:53:09,440
Speaker 1: we just didn't get to see? I mean a lot

1018
00:53:09,480 --> 00:53:11,600
Speaker 1: of the conversations that you saw, like for instance, at

1019
00:53:11,600 --> 00:53:13,759
Speaker 1: the pool party, the conversations that he had that was

1020
00:53:13,800 --> 00:53:16,279
Speaker 1: really all he had, he didn't have time for the

1021
00:53:16,320 --> 00:53:17,560
Speaker 1: rest of us. I think they were like seven or

1022
00:53:17,560 --> 00:53:19,719
Speaker 1: eight girls that didn't get time, so it really was

1023
00:53:19,840 --> 00:53:22,920
Speaker 1: focused on a lot of the same girls. But and

1024
00:53:23,080 --> 00:53:25,480
Speaker 1: then again at the cocktail party when a layer returns,

1025
00:53:26,480 --> 00:53:29,440
Speaker 1: half of us didn't get time. So I mean, what

1026
00:53:29,480 --> 00:53:31,440
Speaker 1: you're seeing is kind of what you're getting, but at

1027
00:53:31,480 --> 00:53:33,480
Speaker 1: the same time, you're not seeing a couple of the

1028
00:53:33,480 --> 00:53:35,520
Speaker 1: conversations that are had at like dates and stuff where

1029
00:53:35,600 --> 00:53:38,279
Speaker 1: we really did get to connect with Peter, and so

1030
00:53:38,360 --> 00:53:39,920
Speaker 1: you don't get to see the rest of us develop

1031
00:53:39,960 --> 00:53:42,440
Speaker 1: those relationships that really were there, which is why we

1032
00:53:42,480 --> 00:53:44,440
Speaker 1: feel strongler why you see girls crying, they're not just

1033
00:53:44,520 --> 00:53:46,840
Speaker 1: crying because they're crying. They're crying because they have some

1034
00:53:46,960 --> 00:53:49,120
Speaker 1: sort of connection with Peter, and then when they don't

1035
00:53:49,160 --> 00:53:53,439
Speaker 1: get their time, they're frustrated in it. I will say

1036
00:53:53,640 --> 00:53:56,960
Speaker 1: I thought at one point, because because as you guys

1037
00:53:56,960 --> 00:53:59,200
Speaker 1: have touched on, there is so much that we just

1038
00:53:59,320 --> 00:54:01,279
Speaker 1: don't see that can't make it into the episodes. So

1039
00:54:01,280 --> 00:54:04,440
Speaker 1: of course, like some relationships are evolving even though we

1040
00:54:04,480 --> 00:54:06,839
Speaker 1: don't necessarily see it because the drama takes it away.

1041
00:54:07,200 --> 00:54:09,120
Speaker 1: There was one point where I thought Natasha was just

1042
00:54:09,200 --> 00:54:11,440
Speaker 1: going to be like, screw this, I'm leaving, I'm going home.

1043
00:54:11,560 --> 00:54:15,120
Speaker 1: I'm over it. I would have bet money that she

1044
00:54:15,880 --> 00:54:18,120
Speaker 1: was just done and she would have just she was

1045
00:54:18,160 --> 00:54:19,320
Speaker 1: just ready to throw in the towel and be like

1046
00:54:19,360 --> 00:54:21,960
Speaker 1: this isn't worth it, Like I'm not progressing my relationship.

1047
00:54:22,000 --> 00:54:24,560
Speaker 1: He's only fed up in this drama. So you know,

1048
00:54:24,760 --> 00:54:26,480
Speaker 1: there I had the moment where I was like, oh,

1049
00:54:26,600 --> 00:54:31,040
Speaker 1: this girl's leaving, She's sending herself home. Yeah. I mean

1050
00:54:31,160 --> 00:54:34,719
Speaker 1: Natasha actually had a really good relationship with Peter. She

1051
00:54:34,920 --> 00:54:37,680
Speaker 1: was one of the girls that was continuously getting times,

1052
00:54:38,040 --> 00:54:39,960
Speaker 1: so I think that's why she was also really frustrated.

1053
00:54:40,000 --> 00:54:41,520
Speaker 1: She was frustrated for the rest of us that didn't

1054
00:54:41,520 --> 00:54:44,359
Speaker 1: get time and how right, you know, Ala came back

1055
00:54:44,440 --> 00:54:47,800
Speaker 1: and like the dramas continued, So she was right in

1056
00:54:47,880 --> 00:54:50,480
Speaker 1: her frustrations. But she really did have a connection with Peter.

1057
00:54:50,640 --> 00:54:52,840
Speaker 1: So I mean, as much as she was frustrated, I

1058
00:54:52,880 --> 00:54:54,560
Speaker 1: don't think she would ever want to send herself home.

1059
00:54:56,120 --> 00:54:59,120
Speaker 1: There's so many different feuds to ask you about. I

1060
00:54:59,280 --> 00:55:01,080
Speaker 1: think we've covered heard most of them, but I gotta

1061
00:55:01,120 --> 00:55:05,279
Speaker 1: ask you, what do you think about Victoria f And

1062
00:55:05,480 --> 00:55:08,000
Speaker 1: that's you know, I was never close with Victoria F

1063
00:55:08,120 --> 00:55:11,160
Speaker 1: and the house. So again, like there was a couple

1064
00:55:11,160 --> 00:55:13,480
Speaker 1: of girls that I just wasn't close to just because naturally,

1065
00:55:13,600 --> 00:55:15,960
Speaker 1: like we timed out with different people or we were

1066
00:55:16,000 --> 00:55:19,080
Speaker 1: never on the same dates. To me, Victoria F was

1067
00:55:19,200 --> 00:55:22,600
Speaker 1: really quiet. She was more of like the reserved girl.

1068
00:55:23,040 --> 00:55:24,799
Speaker 1: And then when I was on the Revolve date with her,

1069
00:55:24,920 --> 00:55:28,319
Speaker 1: which I somehow didn't make it into that date at all. Yeah,

1070
00:55:28,800 --> 00:55:31,880
Speaker 1: but yeah, I don't know how that happens. You know,

1071
00:55:32,280 --> 00:55:33,880
Speaker 1: I got to see her open up a little bit,

1072
00:55:34,040 --> 00:55:35,680
Speaker 1: you know, she tried to put herself out there by

1073
00:55:35,719 --> 00:55:37,719
Speaker 1: wearing the lingerie and everything like that. But I mean

1074
00:55:38,360 --> 00:55:41,120
Speaker 1: mainly I saw Victoria F as like the quiet girl,

1075
00:55:41,280 --> 00:55:44,680
Speaker 1: reserved and then a moment she would like snap. But

1076
00:55:44,880 --> 00:55:47,000
Speaker 1: that's like the most I got out of it because

1077
00:55:47,040 --> 00:55:50,480
Speaker 1: I never really interacted with her all that much. Did

1078
00:55:50,560 --> 00:55:53,400
Speaker 1: Alaia tell everybody in the house about what happened on

1079
00:55:53,480 --> 00:55:56,719
Speaker 1: Victoria F's date or how did that circulate throughout the house,

1080
00:55:57,440 --> 00:56:01,680
Speaker 1: So it never really did circulate me, Like, so I

1081
00:56:01,880 --> 00:56:05,200
Speaker 1: remember the exact moment that Victoria F found out, but

1082
00:56:05,480 --> 00:56:07,680
Speaker 1: I never heard directly from a LA about the chase.

1083
00:56:07,840 --> 00:56:11,759
Speaker 1: Rice situation, So I don't know who exactly she told

1084
00:56:11,800 --> 00:56:14,279
Speaker 1: it directly too, that it trickled on or trickled out.

1085
00:56:14,960 --> 00:56:17,200
Speaker 1: But at the same time, I'm like, I don't really

1086
00:56:17,280 --> 00:56:19,640
Speaker 1: understand why it was such a big deal, because at

1087
00:56:19,680 --> 00:56:21,719
Speaker 1: the end of the day, you know, everyone was going

1088
00:56:21,800 --> 00:56:24,000
Speaker 1: to find out eventually, or you know, the outside world

1089
00:56:24,040 --> 00:56:27,560
Speaker 1: probably already knew. But you know, maybe Victoria f had

1090
00:56:27,600 --> 00:56:29,200
Speaker 1: told her not to say anything, or maybe someone had

1091
00:56:29,239 --> 00:56:30,920
Speaker 1: mentioned to La, don't say anything, but I don't. I

1092
00:56:30,920 --> 00:56:34,439
Speaker 1: didn't really understand why that was taken to a different level,

1093
00:56:34,920 --> 00:56:38,719
Speaker 1: the moment that Champagne was taken to a different level.

1094
00:56:39,000 --> 00:56:42,560
Speaker 1: Everything in that house is exaggerated, all right, right, every

1095
00:56:42,680 --> 00:56:45,480
Speaker 1: level object is going to be blown out of proportion

1096
00:56:45,880 --> 00:56:50,200
Speaker 1: in future episodes and seasons. I'm just calling it. Love it.

1097
00:56:50,280 --> 00:56:52,239
Speaker 1: So it's going to steal from the pen and we're

1098
00:56:52,280 --> 00:56:54,680
Speaker 1: going to have the sense one home over it penate

1099
00:56:54,719 --> 00:57:00,640
Speaker 1: pen in every penates. It sounds like that you escape. Really,

1100
00:57:01,080 --> 00:57:02,600
Speaker 1: I don't know if I should call it a bad

1101
00:57:02,640 --> 00:57:05,920
Speaker 1: thing because it sounds like you got away. And as

1102
00:57:06,040 --> 00:57:10,320
Speaker 1: we know, there are other opportunities that come about in

1103
00:57:10,440 --> 00:57:13,400
Speaker 1: this Bachelor franchise. I mean, dare we say it, Becca,

1104
00:57:14,120 --> 00:57:20,360
Speaker 1: But there's paradise, paradise, how would you feel about that?

1105
00:57:21,200 --> 00:57:23,440
Speaker 1: I mean, I would definitely be open to paradise. And

1106
00:57:23,560 --> 00:57:27,200
Speaker 1: I think that having multiple people that you can potentially

1107
00:57:27,280 --> 00:57:29,160
Speaker 1: be interested in and you know, get to know, it's

1108
00:57:29,240 --> 00:57:31,680
Speaker 1: a lot better than just having one, since everyone has

1109
00:57:31,720 --> 00:57:35,520
Speaker 1: such different personalities, right, And at least with paradise, it's

1110
00:57:35,560 --> 00:57:39,000
Speaker 1: not just one person that everyone's vying for, is you said?

1111
00:57:39,080 --> 00:57:43,600
Speaker 1: But both the men and the women can take take

1112
00:57:43,720 --> 00:57:45,840
Speaker 1: the power in their hands, if you will, and they

1113
00:57:45,960 --> 00:57:47,920
Speaker 1: both have the opportunity to hand out roses. And so

1114
00:57:48,280 --> 00:57:49,720
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm just saying that right now. I'd love

1115
00:57:49,760 --> 00:57:52,000
Speaker 1: to see you on that beach. Oh I would love

1116
00:57:52,040 --> 00:57:55,160
Speaker 1: to see me on that beach too, Honey. Are there

1117
00:57:55,200 --> 00:57:57,160
Speaker 1: any guys that you would like to see on the beach?

1118
00:57:59,360 --> 00:58:01,320
Speaker 1: I mean, I just keep a really open mind, Like

1119
00:58:01,400 --> 00:58:04,440
Speaker 1: there's no one that I mean that I'm like super

1120
00:58:04,880 --> 00:58:07,360
Speaker 1: dead set on. But I mean obviously like Tyler C's

1121
00:58:07,400 --> 00:58:11,840
Speaker 1: really cute. Okay, anybody else? Anybody else, but go ahead

1122
00:58:11,880 --> 00:58:13,560
Speaker 1: and name of they might be listening. So let's just

1123
00:58:13,640 --> 00:58:17,960
Speaker 1: shoot you shot now? Who else? Yeah, there's too much,

1124
00:58:18,040 --> 00:58:20,640
Speaker 1: let's start. I can't let's start planning seeds. Let's start

1125
00:58:20,680 --> 00:58:23,000
Speaker 1: planning some seeds. I mean, there are a whole new

1126
00:58:23,080 --> 00:58:26,680
Speaker 1: crop of guys that will see come from the Bachelorette season,

1127
00:58:26,920 --> 00:58:29,760
Speaker 1: so those will be are those, they will be in

1128
00:58:29,840 --> 00:58:34,120
Speaker 1: Paradise as well, but anybody else, I mean, I think

1129
00:58:34,120 --> 00:58:35,840
Speaker 1: I'd have to wait for the fresh batch of guys

1130
00:58:35,840 --> 00:58:37,880
Speaker 1: because I feel, like, you know, Bachelation, I've one kind

1131
00:58:37,920 --> 00:58:41,800
Speaker 1: of recycles within. I'm like, I don't know stage coach

1132
00:58:41,920 --> 00:58:43,320
Speaker 1: was going to be such an issue. I'm like, Wow,

1133
00:58:45,120 --> 00:58:47,400
Speaker 1: Deander wants the fresh meat that has not been teaching.

1134
00:58:47,480 --> 00:58:50,920
Speaker 1: I do, I do. Are you a fan of country music.

1135
00:58:52,320 --> 00:58:56,240
Speaker 1: I'm actually not the biggest fan of country respect I

1136
00:58:56,360 --> 00:58:59,920
Speaker 1: respect it, but I'm not like by hard huge fan. Deanne,

1137
00:59:00,280 --> 00:59:02,400
Speaker 1: that's fantastic. You're already going to be a leg up

1138
00:59:03,120 --> 00:59:05,880
Speaker 1: ahead of many of the coast will be there. Let

1139
00:59:05,920 --> 00:59:10,240
Speaker 1: me just please just don't. We sat on Paradise last year,

1140
00:59:10,320 --> 00:59:14,160
Speaker 1: so many alliances were formed and people like budding up

1141
00:59:14,240 --> 00:59:20,040
Speaker 1: and what am I saying? Buddying, button butting and betting

1142
00:59:20,120 --> 00:59:24,640
Speaker 1: up is correct? Actually we thought all happened prior to

1143
00:59:24,720 --> 00:59:27,440
Speaker 1: actual Paradise, which I think made it a little bit

1144
00:59:27,480 --> 00:59:30,600
Speaker 1: tainted for us viewers, So please, as you said, just

1145
00:59:30,720 --> 00:59:32,240
Speaker 1: keep an open mind because I would love to see

1146
00:59:32,320 --> 00:59:38,080
Speaker 1: like a true authentic connection unfold. That's just myself. No,

1147
00:59:38,240 --> 00:59:39,560
Speaker 1: I respect that, and I kind of like that. I

1148
00:59:39,600 --> 00:59:41,400
Speaker 1: don't like the tainted this before because I'm like, if

1149
00:59:41,440 --> 00:59:43,400
Speaker 1: we all have history, why are we here. Hey, we

1150
00:59:43,480 --> 00:59:46,040
Speaker 1: might be a beat outside of paradise. And as two

1151
00:59:46,160 --> 00:59:48,680
Speaker 1: big sisters who've been through, we have been a paradise,

1152
00:59:48,760 --> 00:59:50,800
Speaker 1: but we've been through our our own season. Say we've

1153
00:59:50,840 --> 00:59:53,800
Speaker 1: been on the Bachelor. There will be plenty of guys

1154
00:59:54,280 --> 00:59:57,920
Speaker 1: from past seasons and for this upcoming season that will

1155
00:59:58,000 --> 01:00:01,440
Speaker 1: slide into your DMS, so you know, just be prepared.

1156
01:00:02,000 --> 01:00:05,000
Speaker 1: Just slightly pushed them away and said, I say, I'll

1157
01:00:05,040 --> 01:00:09,440
Speaker 1: see you on the beach. On the beach, can't wait.

1158
01:00:09,480 --> 01:00:11,840
Speaker 1: I'm gonna take that advice. I will take that advice

1159
01:00:11,880 --> 01:00:15,440
Speaker 1: to heart. Before we let you go, what like kind

1160
01:00:15,480 --> 01:00:17,640
Speaker 1: of catch our listeners up as to what you've been

1161
01:00:17,720 --> 01:00:20,160
Speaker 1: up to, what you've been doing since the show has ended.

1162
01:00:21,120 --> 01:00:23,120
Speaker 1: I mean since the show has ended, I mean life

1163
01:00:23,240 --> 01:00:25,720
Speaker 1: kind of resumed as normal. Right now. I'm in the

1164
01:00:25,800 --> 01:00:28,160
Speaker 1: transition stage of like moving on from what I was

1165
01:00:28,240 --> 01:00:31,640
Speaker 1: doing before to hopefully going into a new career path

1166
01:00:32,440 --> 01:00:34,600
Speaker 1: because I was a care coordinator before and I just

1167
01:00:34,720 --> 01:00:36,960
Speaker 1: kind of want to transition into like a different industry,

1168
01:00:37,040 --> 01:00:39,560
Speaker 1: maybe sales or something like that. So I've just been

1169
01:00:39,640 --> 01:00:42,080
Speaker 1: working on, you know, my career and focusing on myself

1170
01:00:42,680 --> 01:00:46,960
Speaker 1: definitely not dating. That's why I keep it, keep the

1171
01:00:47,040 --> 01:00:49,680
Speaker 1: beach right. I'm just I just like, I'm not going

1172
01:00:49,720 --> 01:00:51,560
Speaker 1: to force anything. I'm not gonna put myself out there.

1173
01:00:51,560 --> 01:00:53,360
Speaker 1: If it happens, it happens. If it doesn't, it doesn't,

1174
01:00:53,360 --> 01:00:56,480
Speaker 1: I'll see on the beach. If not, um, Yeah, but

1175
01:00:56,560 --> 01:00:58,440
Speaker 1: I've been like taking time to focus on myself and

1176
01:00:58,600 --> 01:01:01,400
Speaker 1: work on being a better person being and you know,

1177
01:01:02,040 --> 01:01:07,480
Speaker 1: I M Dondra. Do you still talk to some of

1178
01:01:07,560 --> 01:01:11,960
Speaker 1: the girls from this oh chat? Oh? Yeah, I know

1179
01:01:12,040 --> 01:01:14,280
Speaker 1: y'all have that group chat. That group chat is popping,

1180
01:01:14,480 --> 01:01:17,480
Speaker 1: don't lie. Do we have a group chat? I never

1181
01:01:17,760 --> 01:01:21,040
Speaker 1: confirmed or denied that we. Okay, well, you know what

1182
01:01:21,080 --> 01:01:22,880
Speaker 1: I was gonna say. I was actually gonna say something

1183
01:01:23,000 --> 01:01:25,000
Speaker 1: really messy. I was gonna say, you know what, y'all

1184
01:01:25,080 --> 01:01:27,960
Speaker 1: probably don't because the theme, and this is what I'm

1185
01:01:28,000 --> 01:01:31,560
Speaker 1: going to name episode five is I am not here

1186
01:01:31,600 --> 01:01:34,000
Speaker 1: to make friends, and that it aems to be the

1187
01:01:34,520 --> 01:01:37,600
Speaker 1: theme of this episode and your entire season. So I

1188
01:01:37,720 --> 01:01:40,960
Speaker 1: actually would be shocked if y'all did have one. Y'all

1189
01:01:41,000 --> 01:01:43,920
Speaker 1: probably have about five or six. There's so much trauma

1190
01:01:44,000 --> 01:01:49,360
Speaker 1: between so many girls that I can't imagine all twenty

1191
01:01:49,440 --> 01:01:52,280
Speaker 1: eight or thirty, however many getting into one. That just

1192
01:01:52,320 --> 01:01:55,800
Speaker 1: seems chaotic. Before we let you go, we have to

1193
01:01:55,840 --> 01:01:57,400
Speaker 1: play a game with you, as we like to do

1194
01:01:57,560 --> 01:01:59,680
Speaker 1: with our guest. So we're gonna play a really quick

1195
01:01:59,720 --> 01:02:02,160
Speaker 1: game where we're going to read a sentence and then

1196
01:02:02,600 --> 01:02:06,280
Speaker 1: you fill in the blank when we read the sentence. Okay,

1197
01:02:06,880 --> 01:02:08,760
Speaker 1: don't hold back, say the first thing that comes to

1198
01:02:08,840 --> 01:02:14,240
Speaker 1: your mind. Are you ready, Deandra, Yes, ma'am. Okay. First one,

1199
01:02:14,920 --> 01:02:19,160
Speaker 1: after the show, the first thing I did was came home,

1200
01:02:19,320 --> 01:02:24,000
Speaker 1: hugged my family, and traveled too. I went to Maine

1201
01:02:24,040 --> 01:02:27,280
Speaker 1: to see my mom. Maine. I've always wanted to go. Okay,

1202
01:02:27,280 --> 01:02:32,800
Speaker 1: we'll talk about that off air. Okay. Next up, who

1203
01:02:32,960 --> 01:02:37,280
Speaker 1: I missed the most from home was my big sister, Danika.

1204
01:02:37,360 --> 01:02:40,480
Speaker 1: She's my best friend. Oh, I feel that. I like that.

1205
01:02:41,000 --> 01:02:43,360
Speaker 1: I think I missed my sister the most too. Yes,

1206
01:02:44,200 --> 01:02:49,160
Speaker 1: whoever is listening, she's a winner. You are a winner. Okay, yea.

1207
01:02:49,240 --> 01:02:51,560
Speaker 1: Since we didn't get to see these conversations on air,

1208
01:02:51,680 --> 01:02:54,640
Speaker 1: we're having them right now. Okay. One thing I regret

1209
01:02:54,720 --> 01:02:58,440
Speaker 1: while while being on the show was I'm not showing

1210
01:02:58,480 --> 01:03:01,600
Speaker 1: more of my personality or being more agressive. H hey,

1211
01:03:01,840 --> 01:03:05,240
Speaker 1: well again, Paradise get all. You can be as aggressive

1212
01:03:05,320 --> 01:03:09,640
Speaker 1: on that beach as you want. Girls exactly, all right? Next,

1213
01:03:10,400 --> 01:03:13,760
Speaker 1: where are we? Uh? Watching the show back has been

1214
01:03:15,400 --> 01:03:19,880
Speaker 1: interesting and makes a lot of sense now mmmm, well said,

1215
01:03:19,960 --> 01:03:27,560
Speaker 1: all right, these girls are my blank these girls are

1216
01:03:27,800 --> 01:03:35,520
Speaker 1: my I mean all of them, Yeah, just the girls

1217
01:03:35,560 --> 01:03:39,800
Speaker 1: as a whole. These girls are my I feel like

1218
01:03:39,840 --> 01:03:42,920
Speaker 1: it's like sister wives. Okay. I was going to say

1219
01:03:42,960 --> 01:03:46,000
Speaker 1: the cause of gray hairs, but that's true. I was

1220
01:03:46,080 --> 01:03:50,840
Speaker 1: gonna say phreenemies. But you know, given you know them

1221
01:03:50,880 --> 01:03:55,160
Speaker 1: better than we do all Rachel with the jade. Well,

1222
01:03:55,440 --> 01:03:57,240
Speaker 1: I was gonna say something else and then I that

1223
01:03:57,400 --> 01:04:03,240
Speaker 1: was it. That was the nice. Next one, next one,

1224
01:04:03,800 --> 01:04:10,640
Speaker 1: my last, oh my last rose ceremony was disappointing. M Yeah,

1225
01:04:10,960 --> 01:04:15,080
Speaker 1: I feel that all right. Something I learned about myself

1226
01:04:15,200 --> 01:04:19,400
Speaker 1: on the show is that I need alone time to

1227
01:04:19,520 --> 01:04:22,560
Speaker 1: be able to connect with my thoughts. Yes, that was

1228
01:04:22,640 --> 01:04:24,640
Speaker 1: the one thing. How hard was that for you to

1229
01:04:25,160 --> 01:04:27,640
Speaker 1: always constantly be having to be with the girls and

1230
01:04:27,720 --> 01:04:31,560
Speaker 1: the producers and in the interviews everything. For me, I

1231
01:04:31,640 --> 01:04:33,720
Speaker 1: grew up with eleven siblings, so like I was just

1232
01:04:33,880 --> 01:04:36,160
Speaker 1: used to naturally being around a lot of people. Um,

1233
01:04:36,600 --> 01:04:38,880
Speaker 1: but like having that alone time with like you know

1234
01:04:38,960 --> 01:04:41,400
Speaker 1: where you're secluded and you know, take time to yourself,

1235
01:04:41,480 --> 01:04:46,400
Speaker 1: it was really beneficial to like recharge. Yes, oh one, Um,

1236
01:04:47,000 --> 01:04:56,760
Speaker 1: I hope Peter picks I love a side. I'm like, yeah,

1237
01:04:57,040 --> 01:04:58,959
Speaker 1: at this point, I hope he picked Hannah Be because

1238
01:04:59,040 --> 01:05:01,200
Speaker 1: the amount of times that she would showing up, Like,

1239
01:05:01,360 --> 01:05:04,400
Speaker 1: I hope that you guys, you were on the date

1240
01:05:04,720 --> 01:05:08,120
Speaker 1: when Hannah Be came. No, I wasn't on the date. Okay,

1241
01:05:08,640 --> 01:05:12,400
Speaker 1: when you found out that she showed up, what were

1242
01:05:12,480 --> 01:05:16,320
Speaker 1: your thoughts? What was the feeling in the house and

1243
01:05:17,720 --> 01:05:21,240
Speaker 1: start there. So when she showed up the first time

1244
01:05:21,360 --> 01:05:22,959
Speaker 1: to give him back his wings, I was like, great,

1245
01:05:23,200 --> 01:05:25,640
Speaker 1: this is really beneficial for him helping move on. When

1246
01:05:25,680 --> 01:05:28,520
Speaker 1: she showed up the second time, I was still like Okay, fine,

1247
01:05:29,080 --> 01:05:32,120
Speaker 1: but I just can't respect the conversation that they had.

1248
01:05:32,160 --> 01:05:34,480
Speaker 1: Seeing it after they aired, I'm like, don't come back

1249
01:05:34,680 --> 01:05:36,640
Speaker 1: and you know, say, did I make a mistake and

1250
01:05:37,040 --> 01:05:40,000
Speaker 1: have Peter question his ability to look at us as potential,

1251
01:05:40,280 --> 01:05:43,280
Speaker 1: you know, fiances or relationships that he wants to have.

1252
01:05:43,680 --> 01:05:45,680
Speaker 1: So once it crossed that line of like what are

1253
01:05:45,720 --> 01:05:47,240
Speaker 1: we doing? Did I make a mistake? That's where I

1254
01:05:47,320 --> 01:05:49,439
Speaker 1: was like, Okay, Hannah, you don't need to be Yeah,

1255
01:05:49,760 --> 01:05:52,520
Speaker 1: but did you blame Hannah or Peter? Because and I'm sorry,

1256
01:05:52,640 --> 01:05:55,640
Speaker 1: like we're so digging deep that you are the first

1257
01:05:55,680 --> 01:05:57,400
Speaker 1: guests that we've had or the first girl that we've

1258
01:05:57,440 --> 01:06:00,400
Speaker 1: had from the season, and I do really want to

1259
01:06:00,440 --> 01:06:02,480
Speaker 1: know your perspective of what it was like to know

1260
01:06:02,640 --> 01:06:05,400
Speaker 1: that you put your life on hold to come be

1261
01:06:05,560 --> 01:06:08,440
Speaker 1: on Peters season. And then Hannah shows up and then

1262
01:06:08,520 --> 01:06:11,240
Speaker 1: you see she only heard about it before. Now you've

1263
01:06:11,360 --> 01:06:15,840
Speaker 1: seen their intimate conversation. Really, what were your thoughts and

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01:06:15,920 --> 01:06:22,520
Speaker 1: what is the group chat saying? What group chat? I

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Speaker 1: at first when she's coming back, I respect it because

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Speaker 1: I mean I feel like if you can look at

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Speaker 1: your ex and still want to move on and find happiness,

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01:06:29,200 --> 01:06:31,960
Speaker 1: that shows true growth. So like that's fine with me.

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01:06:32,000 --> 01:06:33,880
Speaker 1: If she wanted to hang around, that's fine, But just

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Speaker 1: knowing that I put my life on the line, and

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01:06:35,720 --> 01:06:38,560
Speaker 1: then seeing the conversation that they're having about you know,

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Speaker 1: both her and Peter, like did we make mistakes? I

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01:06:41,160 --> 01:06:44,360
Speaker 1: can't respect that because there's thirty girls out here who

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01:06:44,600 --> 01:06:47,920
Speaker 1: literally stopped their lives to come out here and try

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01:06:47,960 --> 01:06:49,880
Speaker 1: to find a connection with you, Peter. But did you

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01:06:50,040 --> 01:06:52,360
Speaker 1: and so in that instance, did you question Peter and

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01:06:52,480 --> 01:06:56,400
Speaker 1: like if he was truly ready to me oh, yeah, okay, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean it's definitely both like I mean, Hannah be

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01:06:58,840 --> 01:07:01,080
Speaker 1: coming back, but then Peter also like taking her in

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01:07:01,120 --> 01:07:04,280
Speaker 1: and saying, well, like let's even allowing that conversation. I

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01:07:04,360 --> 01:07:05,960
Speaker 1: did look at Peter like do you know what you want?

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01:07:06,120 --> 01:07:07,840
Speaker 1: And I think that's you know, that's one of the

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01:07:07,880 --> 01:07:09,600
Speaker 1: things I did ask him when we had our last

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01:07:09,640 --> 01:07:12,520
Speaker 1: conversation before I got sent home. It's like, you know,

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Speaker 1: you know, you're here for a reason, Like what do

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01:07:14,920 --> 01:07:16,800
Speaker 1: you want? Like do you want a girl who's going

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01:07:16,840 --> 01:07:18,080
Speaker 1: to be in the drama? Do you want you know,

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01:07:18,400 --> 01:07:24,160
Speaker 1: pass relationships? What do you want? Right? What? Peter? Yeah?

1289
01:07:24,240 --> 01:07:26,320
Speaker 1: Who do you feel? Okay, last question? Who do you feel?

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01:07:26,400 --> 01:07:28,680
Speaker 1: Was more to blame with that conversation, Hannah or Peter?

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01:07:31,640 --> 01:07:35,680
Speaker 1: I think Hannah because I think she knows the control

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01:07:35,720 --> 01:07:38,400
Speaker 1: that she has a repeater. I think that you know,

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01:07:38,480 --> 01:07:41,160
Speaker 1: a girl knows when a guy has feelings for her still,

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01:07:41,280 --> 01:07:42,960
Speaker 1: and you know, she saw the way that he acted

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01:07:42,960 --> 01:07:45,880
Speaker 1: the first night and how he meant so much for

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01:07:45,960 --> 01:07:47,960
Speaker 1: her to come back and give the wings, and then

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Speaker 1: seeing him that day, I mean you can tell, you

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01:07:51,280 --> 01:07:52,960
Speaker 1: can tell that he's torn. So I feel like I

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01:07:53,120 --> 01:07:56,480
Speaker 1: blayed Hannah mainly for bringing up those feelings again for him,

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01:07:56,520 --> 01:07:58,960
Speaker 1: because he's obviously trying to move on and she's just

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01:07:59,080 --> 01:08:04,120
Speaker 1: like bringing back those feelings. Okay, No, you sound like No,

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01:08:04,280 --> 01:08:06,320
Speaker 1: you sound like you you have an opinion. I want

1303
01:08:06,320 --> 01:08:08,360
Speaker 1: to hear. Oh, I've already given my opinion on it.

1304
01:08:08,600 --> 01:08:11,320
Speaker 1: I mean I thought it was selfish for her to

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01:08:11,360 --> 01:08:14,920
Speaker 1: come back. So thank you for giving us the inside

1306
01:08:14,960 --> 01:08:18,759
Speaker 1: scoop and your opinion. We will now resume the game again.

1307
01:08:19,600 --> 01:08:23,320
Speaker 1: So the next question is nice question. I hope on

1308
01:08:23,479 --> 01:08:30,080
Speaker 1: women tell all blank, everyone tells each other exactly how

1309
01:08:30,160 --> 01:08:33,280
Speaker 1: they feel with them getting their feelings hurt. That is

1310
01:08:33,360 --> 01:08:37,360
Speaker 1: so good team. Maybe maybe I hope happens. I don't know.

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01:08:37,400 --> 01:08:39,840
Speaker 1: If THEA I think people will definitely get their feeling hurt.

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01:08:40,320 --> 01:08:43,639
Speaker 1: That is going to be one long women tell all

1313
01:08:43,680 --> 01:08:49,160
Speaker 1: oh yeah, oh, I'll be there, but can I please

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01:08:49,200 --> 01:08:54,200
Speaker 1: be in the audience, Becky'll tour, damn it, I'll represent

1315
01:08:54,400 --> 01:08:57,720
Speaker 1: for both of us. I will be there sip and tea.

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01:08:57,880 --> 01:08:59,760
Speaker 1: Actually no, I'm gonna be some a little stronger than that,

1317
01:09:00,080 --> 01:09:10,960
Speaker 1: but I'm wine. You need to be texting me, all right, Okay,

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01:09:11,080 --> 01:09:13,320
Speaker 1: next one, we got two more laught for you. Cheers

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01:09:13,439 --> 01:09:20,439
Speaker 1: to blank, cheers to finding love and finding not love. Okay, yes,

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01:09:21,120 --> 01:09:26,000
Speaker 1: all right, and last one up next for me is blank.

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01:09:27,760 --> 01:09:31,880
Speaker 1: Up next for me is everything. Um. I feel like

1322
01:09:31,920 --> 01:09:34,960
Speaker 1: the future is just so undecided for me right now.

1323
01:09:35,400 --> 01:09:37,599
Speaker 1: So that's what's up for next is like figuring out

1324
01:09:37,720 --> 01:09:40,680
Speaker 1: what my next step is in relationships and life and

1325
01:09:40,800 --> 01:09:48,880
Speaker 1: work and everything. Insert Paradise theme song here. I love that.

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Speaker 1: Um Okay, Well, de Andrew, thank you so much for

1327
01:09:51,920 --> 01:09:54,960
Speaker 1: joining us on the podcast. Thank you for being open

1328
01:09:55,040 --> 01:09:57,800
Speaker 1: and honest. You know, we like to create a safe

1329
01:09:57,880 --> 01:10:00,880
Speaker 1: space where people can feel free just talk, you know,

1330
01:10:01,000 --> 01:10:03,840
Speaker 1: say things that you haven't had the opportunity to say before,

1331
01:10:04,560 --> 01:10:07,720
Speaker 1: and we thank you for doing that. We definitely are

1332
01:10:07,800 --> 01:10:10,000
Speaker 1: excited for everything that's to come for you. This guy

1333
01:10:10,160 --> 01:10:12,720
Speaker 1: is the limit. We can't wait to watch you on

1334
01:10:12,800 --> 01:10:16,840
Speaker 1: the beaches of Paradise. Hopefully, hopefully you're in the first

1335
01:10:17,320 --> 01:10:20,920
Speaker 1: or second group that comes, because that's like the suit

1336
01:10:21,040 --> 01:10:23,080
Speaker 1: spot to be in. We'll just go ahead and put

1337
01:10:23,160 --> 01:10:25,880
Speaker 1: that out there. Hopefully the producers are listening. But yes,

1338
01:10:26,960 --> 01:10:29,000
Speaker 1: thank you so much for being here. No, thank you

1339
01:10:29,080 --> 01:10:30,760
Speaker 1: guys so much for hotting we. I don't want to leave.

1340
01:10:30,800 --> 01:10:32,439
Speaker 1: I wish we could just stay on the phone. But

1341
01:10:32,640 --> 01:10:34,920
Speaker 1: thank you so much for being so understanding and listening

1342
01:10:34,960 --> 01:10:37,400
Speaker 1: to me and hearing me. I love it. Of course, Well,

1343
01:10:37,439 --> 01:10:39,120
Speaker 1: thank you. We can't wait to see what is ahead

1344
01:10:39,160 --> 01:10:42,160
Speaker 1: for you because I feel like it's amazing, amazing things.

1345
01:10:42,720 --> 01:10:47,640
Speaker 1: Let's hope. Thanks Andra, of course. By guys, all right,

1346
01:10:47,760 --> 01:10:49,760
Speaker 1: so you know what time it is, Becca, It is

1347
01:10:49,880 --> 01:10:53,760
Speaker 1: time where the cats and rats of the week. There

1348
01:10:53,840 --> 01:10:57,160
Speaker 1: are some cats and some rats. M I'll kick this

1349
01:10:57,320 --> 01:11:00,400
Speaker 1: one off. So for the cat, I'm given it to

1350
01:11:00,479 --> 01:11:03,240
Speaker 1: my girl, Kelly. She's clearly my favorite at this point,

1351
01:11:03,760 --> 01:11:05,519
Speaker 1: I guess because I just feel like I relate to

1352
01:11:05,600 --> 01:11:08,160
Speaker 1: her on so many levels just watching her on the

1353
01:11:08,240 --> 01:11:11,040
Speaker 1: season or the lack of seeing her on the season.

1354
01:11:11,160 --> 01:11:13,400
Speaker 1: She just stays away from the drama. So yes, giving

1355
01:11:13,439 --> 01:11:15,400
Speaker 1: it to Kelly. I like that we were able to

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01:11:15,439 --> 01:11:17,880
Speaker 1: see a little bit more of what she's going through

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01:11:17,920 --> 01:11:21,160
Speaker 1: and what she's thinking. Happy, she had a rose. Happy,

1358
01:11:21,439 --> 01:11:23,920
Speaker 1: we will see her again next week. I'm going to

1359
01:11:24,000 --> 01:11:28,120
Speaker 1: give my rat the kelsey. That was a rat move

1360
01:11:28,600 --> 01:11:33,000
Speaker 1: for her to sneak off and go see Peter. Didn't

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01:11:33,040 --> 01:11:35,840
Speaker 1: tell anybody what she was doing, to tell Peter what

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01:11:36,120 --> 01:11:38,760
Speaker 1: was being said in the house when that information had

1363
01:11:38,840 --> 01:11:41,320
Speaker 1: not been relayed to Peter, and who knows if it

1364
01:11:41,439 --> 01:11:44,880
Speaker 1: ever would have gotten to Peter. We don't know. So

1365
01:11:45,000 --> 01:11:46,720
Speaker 1: the fact that she used that, whenever you do that,

1366
01:11:46,880 --> 01:11:49,360
Speaker 1: it's very manipulative. And she knew what she was doing,

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01:11:49,439 --> 01:11:51,720
Speaker 1: and she was trying to put a dagger in Tammy's back,

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01:11:52,320 --> 01:11:55,040
Speaker 1: and she kind of did. I mean, Tammy got a rose,

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01:11:55,200 --> 01:11:59,759
Speaker 1: but she kind of did. M Okay, Well, I'm gonna

1370
01:12:00,040 --> 01:12:02,160
Speaker 1: gonna give two different girls. I'm gonna disagree a little

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01:12:02,160 --> 01:12:05,000
Speaker 1: bit here. I want to start first with my rat

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Speaker 1: of the week because I want to end on a

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01:12:06,560 --> 01:12:09,639
Speaker 1: high note with the cat. So my rat this week,

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01:12:09,800 --> 01:12:12,120
Speaker 1: as much as I was rooting for her, is going

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01:12:12,160 --> 01:12:16,200
Speaker 1: to go to Tammy because of I think the way

1376
01:12:16,320 --> 01:12:20,040
Speaker 1: she vocalized her issues to Peter and the rest, but

1377
01:12:20,320 --> 01:12:23,760
Speaker 1: mainly to the way she didn't vocalize because in the

1378
01:12:23,840 --> 01:12:28,400
Speaker 1: scenario where Kelsey's asking who said this? Who said these things?

1379
01:12:28,439 --> 01:12:31,080
Speaker 1: Don't Tammy just kind of sat back, and in that moment,

1380
01:12:31,680 --> 01:12:34,800
Speaker 1: I wish she would have taken initiative because we're all

1381
01:12:34,840 --> 01:12:36,560
Speaker 1: going to see it. It's all on camera, and I

1382
01:12:36,640 --> 01:12:38,360
Speaker 1: wish she would have just said it was me. And

1383
01:12:38,520 --> 01:12:41,360
Speaker 1: I said that because of x y Z. There was

1384
01:12:41,360 --> 01:12:43,559
Speaker 1: a lack of initiative there and I wanted to see more.

1385
01:12:43,640 --> 01:12:45,400
Speaker 1: And I just also don't think it was her place

1386
01:12:45,479 --> 01:12:49,800
Speaker 1: to throw around drinking problems and pill problems. So I

1387
01:12:49,840 --> 01:12:53,639
Speaker 1: will leave it at that. But my cat is going

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01:12:53,760 --> 01:12:57,759
Speaker 1: to somebody who people might not think because she unfortunately

1389
01:12:57,840 --> 01:12:59,639
Speaker 1: went home. But I'm going to give it to Sanne

1390
01:12:59,680 --> 01:13:04,680
Speaker 1: because the entire season she tried to play fair. She

1391
01:13:04,920 --> 01:13:08,639
Speaker 1: just wanted that time with Peter and always unfortunately fell short.

1392
01:13:08,680 --> 01:13:12,160
Speaker 1: There was always something in her way. But from everything

1393
01:13:12,240 --> 01:13:14,400
Speaker 1: that I saw, she seemed like a sweetheart. Her heart

1394
01:13:14,439 --> 01:13:16,719
Speaker 1: seemed to be in the right place. But I also

1395
01:13:17,200 --> 01:13:22,200
Speaker 1: appreciate that she left Peter with just keep an eye out,

1396
01:13:22,320 --> 01:13:24,120
Speaker 1: just like follow your heart, listening to yourself, but just

1397
01:13:24,280 --> 01:13:26,920
Speaker 1: know that like you deserve love and I know that

1398
01:13:26,920 --> 01:13:29,080
Speaker 1: you're trying to follow your heart, but just be aware

1399
01:13:29,240 --> 01:13:31,680
Speaker 1: of something's happening. And so I'm going to give it

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01:13:31,760 --> 01:13:34,839
Speaker 1: to Shanne this week. That was really good. I cannot

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01:13:34,920 --> 01:13:38,280
Speaker 1: disagree with you on those very good Well, thank you Rachel.

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Speaker 1: All right, well that is all for us this week.

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01:13:42,439 --> 01:13:44,400
Speaker 1: Thank you guys so much for tuning in. This has

1404
01:13:44,439 --> 01:13:48,000
Speaker 1: been a crazy season, but it's also been fun to watch.

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01:13:48,240 --> 01:13:51,920
Speaker 1: It's been frustrating, but I don't know, it's also been

1406
01:13:52,080 --> 01:13:55,400
Speaker 1: entertaining at the same time. So make sure you come

1407
01:13:55,479 --> 01:13:57,720
Speaker 1: back to hear what we have to say, to hear

1408
01:13:57,800 --> 01:14:00,479
Speaker 1: what's surprised guest. We may have on at the hour,

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01:14:00,680 --> 01:14:03,200
Speaker 1: So we thank you guys for listening. We thank you

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Speaker 1: guys for being here with us.