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Speaker 1: Welcome in everybody. It's Texans All Access from the Honday

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Speaker 1: Texans Radio Studio. Glad to be with you. John Harris

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Speaker 1: here the voice of the Texans. Mark van Amir there, Mark,

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Speaker 1: good evening. How are you, Johnny. I'm cooler than I was,

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Speaker 1: so that's good. And did I talk about my power

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Speaker 1: going back on? Oh? Yeah, you said it last night.

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Speaker 1: You got it on like really late. And I do

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Speaker 1: still have such an appreciation for the invention of electricity.

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Speaker 1: I really want to thank everybody involved. Ben Franklin. Wait,

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Speaker 1: he didn't invent it. He just did the kite with

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Speaker 1: the key things. Addison did the light bulb. You know

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Speaker 1: all the people involved, Johnny, I'm sure there were many,

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Speaker 1: But thank you very much for electricity. I love it.

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Speaker 1: It's yes, yes, yes, having It's funny because we take

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Speaker 1: so much for granted. You walk in the bathroom, you

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Speaker 1: flip the light on, you go to heat up water

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Speaker 1: for the pasta, you're about to make. Everything is electricity,

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Speaker 1: and then when it's gone, you're like, plumbing is good too,

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Speaker 1: Another good invention right there. One door plumbing. I had.

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Speaker 1: This happened the other night. I was cooking the kitchen

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Speaker 1: and part of the the part of the kitchen that

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Speaker 1: I was in went out, so it was the stove,

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Speaker 1: the microwave, and one other piece circuit breaker, right, But

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Speaker 1: it's like part of it goes out and you're looking around, going,

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Speaker 1: wait is everything else? You're testing everything else? So electricity

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Speaker 1: going out? That should be it. That should be a

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Speaker 1: show sometime, maybe all the path show the things you

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Speaker 1: take for granted. Absolutely, yeah, it's man, it's incredible that

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Speaker 1: having it. So I'm glad you've got it. You're back.

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Speaker 1: Hopefully people out there keeping our electricity and maybe it

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Speaker 1: cools off at some point. I don't know, it's gonna

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Speaker 1: be like ninety two on Friday, Burr. I got. I

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Speaker 1: don't know what I'm gonna do. So I I did

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Speaker 1: this the other day, Mark Sunday. Sunday, I I just

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Speaker 1: needed I needed to run, and I was like, you

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Speaker 1: know what, I don't want to go all the way

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Speaker 1: to night. I'm just going to like, yeah, that's crazy.

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Speaker 1: I didn't realized it was that hot. I really get

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Speaker 1: I go out there. As soon as I walk out,

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Speaker 1: I'm like, yeah, this is a little bit hotter, but

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Speaker 1: I already committed to it. So I'm gonna do it.

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Speaker 1: So I get out and I always have the same method.

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Speaker 1: I walked for for just a little bit about you know,

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Speaker 1: tenth of a mile, two tenths of a mile. I

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Speaker 1: kind of walked and kind of get going in and

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Speaker 1: I turned the corner. All right, now I'm running. Oh

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Speaker 1: my gosh, I got to I got to where I

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Speaker 1: am Derham. I got across Derhm and Shepherd and I

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Speaker 1: get to a stopping point where I'm like, gonna walk

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Speaker 1: a little bit, catch my breath, and I look on

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Speaker 1: my phone says one oh five. So the next day

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Speaker 1: I'm like, I can't. I can't do that. I gotta

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Speaker 1: there's no way. So I just I don't gonna wait.

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Speaker 1: Wait as long as I can. I waited for the

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Speaker 1: sun to go down. I went out at seven forty five.

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Speaker 1: So after our show, I go out at seven forty

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Speaker 1: five and there's a breeze and I'm like, oh, I

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Speaker 1: felt like I was in heaven. I'm like, this is

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Speaker 1: so much better yesterday it was ninety five. Yeah, well

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Speaker 1: It's like when you're in the cold weather environment and

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Speaker 1: That happened to me in Michigan. Twenty felt warm. That

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Speaker 1: happens in these extreme temperatures. And by the way, everybody

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Speaker 1: who has an attic now has a sauna. Sit up

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Speaker 1: there for like ten minutes and you're drenched in sweat,

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Speaker 1: and you didn't have to pay for the sauna. You

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Speaker 1: I am choosing completely, and I used I used to

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Speaker 1: feel bad about this. I'm just not going outside today.

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Speaker 1: I'm just not going to whatever we got in the

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Speaker 1: grilled shoe. By the way, okay, I mean that, however

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Speaker 1: nice shoes, and he's gonna join me in the next segment.

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Speaker 1: On in the lab as we discussed the Texans new helmet. Now,

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Speaker 1: Mark and I talked about that yesterday. The only the

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Speaker 1: second helmet. I don't think Mark that I really grasped

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Speaker 1: that until you said that yesterday you talked about it

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Speaker 1: about it like that. So I feel like universally, the

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Speaker 1: response to the new red helmet has been off the chart, great,

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Speaker 1: very positive. But we talked about that yesterday. So I

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Speaker 1: want to do this, and one of the things that

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Speaker 1: a rabbit hole of things. I want to do the

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Speaker 1: game a little differently. I'm gonna present to you the case,

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Speaker 1: and I then want you to tell me what the

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Speaker 1: impact would be for our favorite football team, as directly

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Speaker 1: as you can possibly think for the team, the fans,

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Speaker 1: the player performances, however you want to think about it. Okay,

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Speaker 1: go ahead, more or less the team, and then it's

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Speaker 1: impact on everybody else. I think most of them will

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Speaker 1: and I got to think it a little bit more

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Speaker 1: about this listening to Zach Keeper's podcast about Andrew Luck. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's a six parter he's been working on. It's a

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Speaker 1: narrative type podcast. I've listened to the first podcast in

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Speaker 1: a half basically, and it got me thinking. It got

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Speaker 1: me thinking about things, including this first one. What if

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Speaker 1: Now if you remember historically twenty eleven, Peyton Manning didn't

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Speaker 1: play the entire year, He's do you want the neck

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Speaker 1: issue in twenty At the end of twenty eleven, he

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Speaker 1: gets released. He then goes and signs in Denver. The

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Speaker 1: Colts draft Andrew Luck. When they meet in the playoffs

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Speaker 1: in fourteen, Luck beats them. In fifteen, the Broncos win

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Speaker 1: a championship with Peyton Manning. What if the Colts had

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Speaker 1: kept Peyton Manning for twenty twelve and beyond, Mark, what

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Speaker 1: do you think is the impact on the Texans? The

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Speaker 1: Texans win a division in twelve for the second time,

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Speaker 1: They win a division in fifteen. They win a division

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Speaker 1: in sixteen. Obviously Peyton was gone by fifteen, but they

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Speaker 1: to fourteen with Andrew Luck. But what if the Colts

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Speaker 1: do you think the impact would have been on the

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Speaker 1: Houston Texas? Well? Manning played very well for Denver in

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Speaker 1: the early going. Right in twenty twelve, we played well.

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Speaker 1: That was Andrew Luck's rookie year, because obviously they didn't

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Speaker 1: In fact, I did a column on underrated wins last week,

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Speaker 1: I believe, and one of the underrated wins that we

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Speaker 1: in the follow up game, coming back from the Monday

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Speaker 1: a hot Colts team that had won something like four

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Speaker 1: Andrew Luck was a rookie, but they were playing well.

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Speaker 1: I think that Vick Ballard running the ball. How would

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Speaker 1: Manning do on that Colts team? Would that team go

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Speaker 1: eleven in five or better? The Colts were still a

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Speaker 1: good team, you know, they're two and fourteen. Campaign of

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Speaker 1: twenty eleven was kind of like the Texans two in

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Speaker 1: fourteen campaign. In twenty thirteen, there was a lot of talent,

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Speaker 1: but everything went wrong. Yes, with the Colts that year,

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Speaker 1: they had Dan Orlovsky didn't play that well, played well

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Speaker 1: last week of the season. But I think that Manning

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Speaker 1: on that Colts team, Johnny would have played well enough

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Speaker 1: Twenty fourteen they went to the AFC Championship Game. Would

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Speaker 1: they do as well with the Manning? It was Andrew

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Speaker 1: Luck's youthful athleticism was that a big factor. There's no

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Speaker 1: way he's as good a passer as Manning was, especially

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Speaker 1: Manning early on whatever he set the he set the

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Speaker 1: all time single season touchdown pass record in Denver. I

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Speaker 1: know everyone remembers the end in fifteen when he traded

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Speaker 1: he wasn't himself then, But in twenty thirteen Manning was

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Speaker 1: still very much Peyton Manning right. Interesting. Speaking of brock Oswilder,

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Speaker 1: Brock Oswalder, I knew drafting Dak Prescott was out the window, right.

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Speaker 1: with Palooza and there was this video that came up

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Speaker 1: how they phrased it, but it was like the craziest

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Speaker 1: endings to college football games ever. And so I'm kind

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Speaker 1: Then they get to one and it's kind of like screen,

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Speaker 1: like the pictures all weird and like Savage back to throw.

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Speaker 1: thinking about Tom Savage and ket me thinking about what

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Speaker 1: signed Brock Osweiler in twenty sixteen. Now, during that time,

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Speaker 1: significant to go get guys that you just probably weren't

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Speaker 1: the free agent route. You're not going back the whole

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Speaker 1: your mallet route. And that's what got me thinking about

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Speaker 1: Dak Prescott. Would Dak Prescott had been on the radar

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Speaker 1: screen I think back to I think he would have.

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Speaker 1: I think everything about Dak has always been on the

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Speaker 1: up and up. He's always been a great guy. He

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Speaker 1: I think continues to show that. He watched him in

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Speaker 1: Hard Knocks, and you're like, that would have been a

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Speaker 1: guy that I think would have thrived here. Maybe they

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Speaker 1: draft back, maybe they don't, But what if Brock just says,

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Speaker 1: you know what, Bill, Rick, I'm staying in Denver. Elway

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Speaker 1: I'm staying in Denver. Now that's that Maybe is another

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Speaker 1: whole can of worms. But don't care about Denver at

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Speaker 1: this point. What do you think happens with the Texans

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Speaker 1: if they had not signed brock oswhilere in twenty sixteen, Well,

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Speaker 1: they probably roll with Savage, right, yea? And we would

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Speaker 1: have learned more about Savage earlier on because look at

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Speaker 1: all fairness to Tom, he got hurt late in twenty fourteen,

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Speaker 1: surprised about that, Johnny. I didn't mean to put you

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Speaker 1: twenty eighteen one. So now you're sitting at pick number

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Speaker 1: set to Cleveland with Brock, Hey take Brock off our hands, right, Oh,

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Speaker 1: he assigned him. So if I remember writing in twenty twelve,

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Speaker 1: Manning's coming off a neck and you don't even know

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Speaker 1: It's basical, it's legal, like oh Slawson, yeah it his

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Speaker 1: Now the next what you were going into a buy? Yeah? Right,

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Speaker 1: got him, I thought that was an interesting acquisition. Good

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Speaker 1: backup quarterback insurance. Anyway, if Job doesn't get hurt, they

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Speaker 1: played Jacksonville two weeks later. They smashed them. The defense

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Speaker 1: was awesome, Number two in the league. They were getting

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Speaker 1: all sorts of pressure on people. Before Watt had all

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Speaker 1: the sacks. It was Barrowin Brooks read was paying dividends

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Speaker 1: as a rookie. They were really making some noise. They

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Speaker 1: had the Ninja, they had Sean Cody, they had Jonathan Joseph,

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Speaker 1: Daniel Manning. They were doing well without Watt having to

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Speaker 1: rack her up twenty sacks because he was a rookie. Look,

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Speaker 1: they beat Jacksonville, they beat Atlanta, do they beat Cincinnati.

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Speaker 1: Maybe they lose to Cincinnati, but it doesn't matter. You

436
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Speaker 1: have three games left to clinch the division and maybe

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Speaker 1: you win two or two out of three might have

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Speaker 1: gotten you the bye, not the number one seed, but

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Speaker 1: the bye going into the postseason. So I think, look,

440
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Speaker 1: you set yourself up really well with shob. You have

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Speaker 1: a chance in twenty eleven to get the bye. And

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Speaker 1: what does that do? You get to skip a week

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Speaker 1: of the postseason, play at home in the divisional round,

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Speaker 1: which they've never done, and there you have it. You

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Speaker 1: have it, a golden opportunity to get to the AFC Championship. Game,

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Speaker 1: no matter who you're playing. Okay, this last one, Okay,

447
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Speaker 1: you actually texted me about something that happened on the radio,

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Speaker 1: and i've kind of I've kind of. So the twenty

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Speaker 1: seventeen NFL Draft, Yeah, because we all remember the Kansas

450
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Speaker 1: City Chiefs moved up to number ten, they drafted Patrick Mahomes.

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Speaker 1: The Texans and traded up to number twelve and they

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Speaker 1: drafted DeShawn Watson and Mitchell Trubiski was taken with the

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Speaker 1: number two pick. After the Bears moved up from three

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Speaker 1: to two. What if Kansas City trades up. They sort

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Speaker 1: of shock everybody in the room because they draft DeShawn

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Speaker 1: Watson and the Texans at number twelve. Still move up,

457
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Speaker 1: but they draft Patrick Mahomes. Interesting. This is so interesting

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Speaker 1: because their rookie seasons played out so differently. Completely went

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Speaker 1: to a playoff team, all right, so did Watson. By

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Speaker 1: the way, Watson came to a good team. Yeah. They

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Speaker 1: were twenty sixteen, number one d defense in the league,

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Speaker 1: went to the divisional round, won a playoff game. The

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Speaker 1: offense wasn't very good, but the running game was okay,

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Speaker 1: you know, came to a pretty good team. Mahomes went

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Speaker 1: to Andy Reid in the Kansas City Chiefs, who had

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Speaker 1: a quarterback in place, Alex Smith, who was good, maybe

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Speaker 1: not great, but very good effective. But they hadn't won

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Speaker 1: a playoff game in forever. He sits until the last

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Speaker 1: regular season game. I'm just sounding this out. Johnny Mahomes

470
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Speaker 1: is gonna play a lot sooner for the Houston Texans, right,

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Speaker 1: He's gonna win his spot. I don't know what would

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Speaker 1: have happened. Who knows. Look, I think the Texans would

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Speaker 1: have similar regular season success. And you presume that Mahomes

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Speaker 1: wouldn't have had the knee injury in year one because

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Speaker 1: that wasn't like he got hit. That was a weird situation,

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Speaker 1: right with Watson getting heart with the knee. Frank Clark.

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Speaker 1: Frank Clark kind of rolled up, kind of jumped over

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Speaker 1: Lamar Miller and landed. Well, we don't know, like there's

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Speaker 1: no on the record explanation of them because it was

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Speaker 1: Thursday in practice, yeah, where that's when it was publicly announced.

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Speaker 1: And I remember that's what he rolled it on the

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Speaker 1: cart and somebody did you see it? Somebody saw him

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Speaker 1: drive in. I think maybe I saw. Now, My memories

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Speaker 1: all fuzzy because it was so painful. We saw him

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Speaker 1: roll in on a cart and it was like, oh gosh, please,

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Speaker 1: no no, no, no no, no no, no, no cramping something

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Speaker 1: anything but that. Yeah, and he's just not that. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I think that twenty seventeen for the Texans plays out

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Speaker 1: the exact same way. Through the first seven games, Savage

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Speaker 1: gets a shot. It's not what sure Bill O'Brien wants

491
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Speaker 1: gonna happen anyway, and they go to the rookie they

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Speaker 1: were gonna go to, They were gonna go to DeShawn

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Speaker 1: at any point, they go to Mahomes. Mahomes does his thing,

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Speaker 1: and if he stays healthy, maybe he sets the world

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Speaker 1: on fire here in seventeen. I do think he probably

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Speaker 1: would have struggled a little bit more here in seventeen,

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Speaker 1: just as a rookie um and what was going on

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Speaker 1: here as opposed to in Kansas City, because he got

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Speaker 1: to sit for that whole year. You got to sit,

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Speaker 1: you got to watch, he got to serve, he got

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Speaker 1: to put himself in that role mentally behind Alex Smith.

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Speaker 1: I learned from Alex Smith. I think that whether he

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Speaker 1: says it or not, I think that's a really it's

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Speaker 1: been a really big thing from sure he says it.

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Speaker 1: I haven't heard it, but I'm sure he admits that

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Speaker 1: Alex Smith really helped. But at any point over the

507
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Speaker 1: last couple of years, did you not envision Patrick Mahomes

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Speaker 1: in a battle read fifteen Jersey slinging here? Yeah, I have,

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Speaker 1: I've done. Look, there are at least nine other teams

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Speaker 1: that can fantasize about that because he was drafted ten

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Speaker 1: and that was the serious exempt thing. They forgot about

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Speaker 1: what everybody was drafted that year. Watson was drafted before him.

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Speaker 1: But one has taken tenth and one has taken twelveth right,

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Speaker 1: and there you know whatever, however you want to look

515
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Speaker 1: at the rankings. If Watson's eligible, he's a top five guy, right,

516
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Speaker 1: two top five guys ten and twelve. Troubisky not so much.

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Speaker 1: But maybe he can re establish himself or establish himsel

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Speaker 1: up at the Pittsburgh Steelers this year. I just the

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Speaker 1: vision of the homes and the health. I mean, look,

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Speaker 1: I mean, I'm okay, look, I think there'll there's we

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Speaker 1: could go what if all what if they draft Garoppolo

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Speaker 1: round two and time? Yeah, well, okay, that would have

523
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Speaker 1: been all right. I would have lived with that, what

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Speaker 1: if they draft Aaron Rodgers at oh five, Oh, then

525
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Speaker 1: we don't have trap Ja. I know, no, I'd rather

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Speaker 1: have Travis. I'd rather have Travis far more entertaining, and

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Speaker 1: it's a long term Trajan Ton't Aaron Rodgers travels. We

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Speaker 1: got you in Houston and that's what we want. But

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Speaker 1: we want to hear from Drew Doherty. We're talking about

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Speaker 1: these batter red helmets that we're gonna unveil July thirtieth

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Speaker 1: out of practice and November third against the Philippi Eagles.

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Speaker 1: To talk about that next right here on Texas acxis's

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Speaker 1: going everybody walcome back to the show Texas All Access

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Speaker 1: from Monday, Texans Radio Studio. I am John Harris Football

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Speaker 1: and All Side, the Reporter and one half of the

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Speaker 1: In the Lab podcast crew, my other half Drew Doherty.

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Speaker 1: It's taken off from Mexico, a pretty cool event you'll

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Speaker 1: hear about more over the next few days. But he

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Speaker 1: took off on Wednesday, but not before Drew and I

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Speaker 1: had an opportunity need to talk about battle red helmets

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Speaker 1: on November three against the Philadelphia Eagles, and you will

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Speaker 1: get a first glance viewing on Saturday, July thirtieth out

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Speaker 1: at training camp. That is gonna be fun. It's back

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00:27:28,840 --> 00:27:33,439
Speaker 1: to football Saturday throughout the entire NFL, and so that's today.

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Speaker 1: You'll get to see them in action for the first time.

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Speaker 1: And if you need tickets, us to Texas dot Com

547
00:27:39,080 --> 00:27:42,000
Speaker 1: Texans app you get tickets for training camp. That'll be

548
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Speaker 1: the second day of camp. Camp opens up July twenty nine.

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Speaker 1: That said, Drew and I talked about the battle red helmets.

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Speaker 1: Texans have the most major uniform change in the twenty

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Speaker 1: one year history of the organization. For four hundred some games,

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Speaker 1: they've always had that same helmet. Correct or they will

553
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Speaker 1: have had that. I'm counting once you get to week

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Speaker 1: ten or week nine, when when they play the Eagles

555
00:28:04,800 --> 00:28:06,920
Speaker 1: year November third, that's when they're wearing them. I'll also

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Speaker 1: wear them at practice. It's a Thursday night game, so

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Speaker 1: practice July thirty. The nation will see it. But this

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Speaker 1: is the first major change in two thousand eleven, excuse me.

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Speaker 1: In twenty twelve, the NFL went from Reebok as the

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Speaker 1: maker of the uniforms for everybody to Nike correct. There

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Speaker 1: were some subtle changes in the uniforms then but nothing. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: maybe the logo at some point little time logo on

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Speaker 1: the back. A year so ago the Texans put like

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Speaker 1: a logo on the back again. Nothing, man, This is

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Speaker 1: a major change for them, most major. And it's interesting, John,

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Speaker 1: because since twenty fourteen, a pretty regular basis I've answer

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Speaker 1: questions from fans and dear Drew. Started out as a

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Speaker 1: video it's now transition to an article. But just about

569
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Speaker 1: every single time you put out a call for questions,

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Speaker 1: one or two or more come back with one of

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Speaker 1: the Texas is gonna get new uniforms? What are they

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Speaker 1: gonna change? What are they gonna do this? When are

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Speaker 1: they gonna do that? Right? And for the longest time

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Speaker 1: was that it's not changing, You're not gonna do that. Correct,

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Speaker 1: Now it's this is the first major change, John. So

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Speaker 1: this was probably three three and a half weeks ago.

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Speaker 1: Happened to be walking out of the building and rewind

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Speaker 1: a little bit. We're all out of the building for

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Speaker 1: the most part. From when I say all players are gone.

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Speaker 1: Players are gone, coaches are gone, but we're also out

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Speaker 1: of the building because they're doing renovations up on our

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Speaker 1: our floor. Yes, but because things have been happening and

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Speaker 1: have been happening over here. I just decided I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: just stay in the digital studio and just work over here,

585
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Speaker 1: just it'll be easier. It's really hot where you sit

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Speaker 1: where I sit across from you, and I just like,

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Speaker 1: I gotta have it somewhat cool. So the last few

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00:29:47,040 --> 00:29:49,600
Speaker 1: weeks have been tough. Anyways, I'm walking out one day

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Speaker 1: and I happened to just peer into the equipment room.

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Speaker 1: Because they're the equipment room. There's a big, massive storage

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Speaker 1: room next to us. All that was getting moved out.

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Speaker 1: All these things were moving around. It's are when the

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Speaker 1: guys and equipment they were. They had stuff in all

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Speaker 1: all kinds of places, so they were getting stuff back in.

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Speaker 1: And I saw this old like laundry bin and they

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Speaker 1: just had the red shells, no face mask, just the

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Speaker 1: red shells. And then just remember looking at it, thinking

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Speaker 1: that's sharp. Now at that point, I don't think. I

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Speaker 1: don't think even at that point I knew that that

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Speaker 1: we were gonna have red helmets. Right then I mentioned it,

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Speaker 1: I think, to Mark and he basically said, oh, yeah,

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Speaker 1: you didn't know that was happening. I'm like, no, the

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00:30:35,720 --> 00:30:38,920
Speaker 1: last one to know. Any of these things. And so

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Speaker 1: you'll see the picture and it's gonna have the blue

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Speaker 1: deep steel blue face mask, the battle helmet, and the

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Speaker 1: rumor that I've heard is it won't be full on

607
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Speaker 1: catchup bottles. No, it's the white pants. White pants, yeah,

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Speaker 1: And I think that's so incredibly sharp. The only there

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00:31:00,280 --> 00:31:03,400
Speaker 1: have been two that I remember for the most part

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Speaker 1: as a pertains to changes to the uniform. One really

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00:31:06,960 --> 00:31:08,520
Speaker 1: got the fans excited, and that's when they did the

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Speaker 1: color rush. Awesome. The color rush are different from the

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Speaker 1: regular keep steel blue deep steel blue because they've got

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Speaker 1: red numerals, and the guys loved them, players loved them.

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Speaker 1: So that was it was supposed to be. And I

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Speaker 1: love them too. It was supposed to be twenty sixteen,

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Speaker 1: but when we played the Patriots on a Thursday night,

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Speaker 1: it was their color rush and so they were gonna

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Speaker 1: have the same, So we had to wait till twenty seventeen.

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Speaker 1: One failed them. In twenty seventeen, we're like, yo, these

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Speaker 1: are sweet ye. The other one also happened. It actually

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Speaker 1: happened in twenty sixteen with battle Red. They came out

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Speaker 1: had red jerseys, but they had the blue pants yep,

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Speaker 1: and after a second I went, you know what, I

625
00:31:48,360 --> 00:31:50,880
Speaker 1: like it. I like it. I like it a lot.

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Speaker 1: I don't think Mark ever got there. There were some

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Speaker 1: fans like no, I think the people that liked them

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Speaker 1: loved it like I loved it. I was okay with it.

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Speaker 1: I didn't so I didn't hate it that I didn't

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Speaker 1: like the all reds. I don't like the red pants.

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Speaker 1: So we've done I'm trying to think how many times

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Speaker 1: we've done that. The time I remember was back in

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Speaker 1: oh seven against the Broncos. They did it in they

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Speaker 1: did it in ten. Remember the remember the overtime lost

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Speaker 1: the ravensh Monday night game. Monday Night Games came back

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Speaker 1: at the end. Yeah yeah, okay, uh yeah. I like

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Speaker 1: the all reds. I don't. I don't mind that. But

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Speaker 1: if they would have gone all reds with the red

639
00:32:27,200 --> 00:32:29,560
Speaker 1: helmet would have been it's a little bit much. That

640
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Speaker 1: would have been full catchup bottle. I don't mind the

641
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Speaker 1: any of the combination with the red. I'm down for

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Speaker 1: I love the red. I wish we would wear the

643
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Speaker 1: red more often than I wish that was the primary

644
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Speaker 1: I do, I really do. I wish that was the

645
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Speaker 1: primary because I think the white I think the white pants,

646
00:32:45,800 --> 00:32:50,360
Speaker 1: red jerseys, and blue tops, those are awesome. Yeah, I've

647
00:32:50,360 --> 00:32:53,160
Speaker 1: been in my mind kind of visualizing what a full

648
00:32:53,280 --> 00:32:56,680
Speaker 1: team of Texans will look like wearing the red helmets.

649
00:32:56,680 --> 00:32:59,600
Speaker 1: But it's really cool. Also, like the Icy Whites, all whites,

650
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Speaker 1: the liberty white has never really been one of my favorites.

651
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Speaker 1: I've never been a big fan of like just pure

652
00:33:06,000 --> 00:33:08,680
Speaker 1: white jerseys. Yeah, I mean, I get it, but I

653
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Speaker 1: just never, you know, even when I coached my team

654
00:33:11,080 --> 00:33:13,360
Speaker 1: long time ago, I'm like, no, I'm gonna get either

655
00:33:13,400 --> 00:33:15,480
Speaker 1: gold or burgundy pants. We're not wearing white white. I

656
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Speaker 1: just I don't know. I just never, I never, I

657
00:33:18,040 --> 00:33:21,440
Speaker 1: never got into it. It's okay, but the red, anything

658
00:33:21,520 --> 00:33:24,800
Speaker 1: with the red I'm cool with. But the helmet itself, um,

659
00:33:25,080 --> 00:33:29,040
Speaker 1: I think is absolutely awesome. I thought a change would

660
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Speaker 1: eventually come a year or so ago when we heard

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Speaker 1: about twenty twenty two being the year that different helmets

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Speaker 1: can get incorporated, because that that opens things up for

663
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Speaker 1: like the Philadelphia Eagles go back to their good colors.

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Speaker 1: This full Kelly great, it's gorgeous. It's such a good

665
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Speaker 1: looking jersey. The Patriots can go back to the Patriot,

666
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Speaker 1: which I think is and they have they are superior

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Speaker 1: to what they have. Did you see the video of

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Speaker 1: the Patriots put out No I need? It was like

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Speaker 1: a back to the future sort of and they've got

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Speaker 1: Patriot pat that they're gonna they're gonna wear. So it's

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Speaker 1: I think I think they're sharp with Are the Broncos

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Speaker 1: gonna go do the d the old screen heard? I

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Speaker 1: would imagine that would be the one that they they'd

674
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Speaker 1: been right, they can't bring back those brown and yellow well,

675
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Speaker 1: but I like the orange Crush one. I think, yeah

676
00:34:09,200 --> 00:34:12,560
Speaker 1: Crush ones right before they they the one before they

677
00:34:12,600 --> 00:34:17,439
Speaker 1: went the of course, you know Jacksonville was living jackson

678
00:34:17,480 --> 00:34:18,960
Speaker 1: when Jacksonvill beat them in ninety six, that was the

679
00:34:19,040 --> 00:34:21,239
Speaker 1: last time they wore those. It was in the playoff game.

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00:34:21,239 --> 00:34:23,879
Speaker 1: The next year they changed uniform and win Super Bowl.

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00:34:23,920 --> 00:34:28,279
Speaker 1: Super Bowl yep, sod helmets. I so I'm down with

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00:34:28,320 --> 00:34:32,760
Speaker 1: it totally. Guess my point was, I was surprised though,

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Speaker 1: that's what the big change was. I thought it was

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Speaker 1: going to be a white helmet because I don't know

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00:34:40,640 --> 00:34:43,760
Speaker 1: if it was ninety it was probably it was before

686
00:34:43,800 --> 00:34:47,279
Speaker 1: the Texans played games. But Bob McNair. I think at

687
00:34:47,280 --> 00:34:50,200
Speaker 1: the logo unveiling held up a white helmet with the

688
00:34:50,200 --> 00:34:53,239
Speaker 1: Texans logo on it, which I thought looks pretty cool. Yeah,

689
00:34:53,520 --> 00:34:55,719
Speaker 1: and I think the door is still open for the

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00:34:55,760 --> 00:34:57,520
Speaker 1: Texans to wear that. Probably not gonna be this year,

691
00:34:57,560 --> 00:34:59,920
Speaker 1: but I think they could. You could see that eventually,

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Speaker 1: And that's what I thought originally. That's what I thought.

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Speaker 1: If they make a change, it's gonna be the way

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Speaker 1: or introduce an alternate, it would be the white helmet.

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Speaker 1: That's what I thought would happen. I think you could

696
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Speaker 1: go either way with any of the three colors of

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00:35:11,880 --> 00:35:14,560
Speaker 1: the helmet, I'd be fine with. The interesting part was

698
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Speaker 1: we were talking to Royce Freeman. He come in here

699
00:35:17,000 --> 00:35:18,680
Speaker 1: for media days, and we were talking to Royce and

700
00:35:18,880 --> 00:35:20,440
Speaker 1: we got out we got to talking about Oregon and

701
00:35:20,480 --> 00:35:22,080
Speaker 1: then it hitd be like, hey, wait a second, they

702
00:35:22,120 --> 00:35:23,759
Speaker 1: were a different helmet every week. Wow. That's what we

703
00:35:23,760 --> 00:35:27,480
Speaker 1: asked him about. We said, did you have to wear

704
00:35:27,520 --> 00:35:32,319
Speaker 1: a different helmet like because for anybody's played football, you

705
00:35:32,360 --> 00:35:35,400
Speaker 1: know now, way back in the way, back in a day,

706
00:35:35,600 --> 00:35:37,960
Speaker 1: the helmets we had sucked and it would take a

707
00:35:38,000 --> 00:35:40,480
Speaker 1: week to break, basically breaking in like a baseball glove.

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00:35:40,520 --> 00:35:41,880
Speaker 1: It would take you a while to break it in.

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Speaker 1: And I've had many friends say, you didn't break in

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00:35:44,800 --> 00:35:47,440
Speaker 1: the helmet. The helmet broke in your head. That's true.

711
00:35:47,480 --> 00:35:50,040
Speaker 1: It molded your head. What the helmet. That's that's a

712
00:35:50,080 --> 00:35:52,040
Speaker 1: great point. That's probably a better way to put it.

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00:35:52,440 --> 00:35:56,640
Speaker 1: And so whenever I heard of multiple helmets, he used

714
00:35:56,680 --> 00:35:59,600
Speaker 1: to just send like chills on my spine, like no.

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Speaker 1: So we asked Royce and he said, no, it wasn't

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00:36:02,320 --> 00:36:05,120
Speaker 1: always a different helmet, it was just how they were

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00:36:05,160 --> 00:36:08,960
Speaker 1: able to decorate it, however they did it. And he

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00:36:09,000 --> 00:36:13,279
Speaker 1: said he wasn't a different helmet every time. So I

719
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Speaker 1: don't know if I'm assuming this is a second helmet.

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Speaker 1: I know there are some guys that have to have

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Speaker 1: a second helmet, Yeah, available and ready to go. And

722
00:36:22,000 --> 00:36:24,839
Speaker 1: and Darwin's guys have all multiple helmets. If you crack one,

723
00:36:25,440 --> 00:36:27,879
Speaker 1: you know which has happened, or something happens to the shell,

724
00:36:27,960 --> 00:36:29,600
Speaker 1: you gotta go get another one, all that kind of stuff.

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00:36:29,600 --> 00:36:32,839
Speaker 1: But some guys just have a communication device in one

726
00:36:32,880 --> 00:36:35,480
Speaker 1: helmet but not in the other, depending on you know

727
00:36:35,600 --> 00:36:37,920
Speaker 1: what you know who's out on the field and all

728
00:36:37,920 --> 00:36:40,080
Speaker 1: that kind of stuff. And so I remember that Zach

729
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Speaker 1: Cuttingham doing that in the Philadelphia game in twenty eighteen.

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Speaker 1: At the end of the game, he goes out there

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Speaker 1: on the field and because of the set they were playing,

732
00:36:47,920 --> 00:36:49,839
Speaker 1: but Argric was not going to be out there, and

733
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Speaker 1: so I saw Managico run out there is Jjoe's trying

734
00:36:52,560 --> 00:36:55,359
Speaker 1: to get dressed, get back in the game. They hand

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00:36:55,480 --> 00:36:57,200
Speaker 1: Zack in different helmet. He takes that one off, gives

736
00:36:57,239 --> 00:36:59,360
Speaker 1: the other one is Oh, they're gonna talk this actor

737
00:36:59,440 --> 00:37:02,520
Speaker 1: that one, so he to helmet. So I never liked

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Speaker 1: having a second helmet. Obviously, if you cracked, you want

739
00:37:04,560 --> 00:37:06,879
Speaker 1: to get a different one, but it's okay if it's

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00:37:06,880 --> 00:37:10,160
Speaker 1: a couple. But just getting used to wearing it before

741
00:37:10,160 --> 00:37:11,560
Speaker 1: you go out on a field to play the game

742
00:37:11,680 --> 00:37:14,640
Speaker 1: could board the migraine headache you could have at that point.

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00:37:14,760 --> 00:37:16,719
Speaker 1: But they're gonna wear it. They're gonna wear it in

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00:37:16,719 --> 00:37:20,200
Speaker 1: practice on that sat it's basically the second second training camp.

745
00:37:21,080 --> 00:37:23,560
Speaker 1: They're gonna give one away to a fan. It's gonna

746
00:37:23,560 --> 00:37:25,960
Speaker 1: be a winner in between now and then. But okay,

747
00:37:26,880 --> 00:37:28,759
Speaker 1: they have the blue all the time. The red's gonna

748
00:37:28,760 --> 00:37:31,440
Speaker 1: be worn for one game. We've discussed the white. I've

749
00:37:31,480 --> 00:37:36,400
Speaker 1: seen other variations though, I've seen a Camo Texans helmet

750
00:37:36,400 --> 00:37:38,680
Speaker 1: which I could see coming into play down the line

751
00:37:38,880 --> 00:37:42,399
Speaker 1: on Salute to Service. It's pretty cool looking. And when

752
00:37:42,400 --> 00:37:44,160
Speaker 1: I say i've seen it, it's always in like the

753
00:37:44,239 --> 00:37:47,160
Speaker 1: mini helmet for ye, it's always at an auction, at

754
00:37:47,200 --> 00:37:50,120
Speaker 1: some sort of gala or silent auctions. It's been autographed

755
00:37:50,120 --> 00:37:53,520
Speaker 1: by somebody. So I've seen a Matt red helmet. This

756
00:37:53,560 --> 00:37:55,680
Speaker 1: is gonna be a glossy one. That red helmet would

757
00:37:55,719 --> 00:37:58,560
Speaker 1: just that would I would love that. I've seen. Yeah,

758
00:37:58,560 --> 00:38:02,839
Speaker 1: I've seen Matt black, which is pretty cool. Okay, let's tuck.

759
00:38:02,920 --> 00:38:06,800
Speaker 1: The black is interesting to me because I I tend

760
00:38:07,040 --> 00:38:11,840
Speaker 1: for certain one of my biggest pet peeves is for

761
00:38:11,880 --> 00:38:15,320
Speaker 1: a team that uses jersey color, a color for a

762
00:38:15,400 --> 00:38:18,000
Speaker 1: jersey or a helmet or whatever that isn't one of

763
00:38:18,040 --> 00:38:22,400
Speaker 1: their colors. Like I hate that, absolutely hate it. Now

764
00:38:22,440 --> 00:38:24,480
Speaker 1: if the color is in their history, like the Philippi Eagles,

765
00:38:25,200 --> 00:38:27,799
Speaker 1: they did the kelly green ones all the time, but

766
00:38:28,280 --> 00:38:30,600
Speaker 1: way back when they did a light blue and yellow

767
00:38:30,600 --> 00:38:34,480
Speaker 1: and it's just weird, but that used to be their color,

768
00:38:34,560 --> 00:38:36,759
Speaker 1: so I can go. I can go with that. The

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Speaker 1: black is always interesting to me because my players are

770
00:38:39,239 --> 00:38:41,560
Speaker 1: always back coach, we gotta get a black jersey or

771
00:38:41,600 --> 00:38:44,280
Speaker 1: black helmet or whatever. I think you can do black

772
00:38:44,800 --> 00:38:47,200
Speaker 1: very cool. You can do it really cool, and I

773
00:38:47,239 --> 00:38:49,440
Speaker 1: think the Matt black is definitely the way that you

774
00:38:49,480 --> 00:38:51,680
Speaker 1: can make that cool. That would be kind of awesome.

775
00:38:51,719 --> 00:38:56,279
Speaker 1: I've also seen a pretty cool silver Texans helmet, like

776
00:38:56,280 --> 00:39:01,560
Speaker 1: a chrome chrome. Yeah, so there's like just like that.

777
00:39:02,120 --> 00:39:04,799
Speaker 1: That would be wild. There's lots of There's lots and

778
00:39:04,920 --> 00:39:08,880
Speaker 1: lots of possibilities. So it also begs the question, John,

779
00:39:09,200 --> 00:39:13,040
Speaker 1: now that we've seen that the Texas have an alternate helmet. Oh,

780
00:39:13,080 --> 00:39:15,160
Speaker 1: I know where you're going. It might uniform change is

781
00:39:15,200 --> 00:39:20,279
Speaker 1: becoming in the next five years. Okay, what what uniform change?

782
00:39:20,560 --> 00:39:23,080
Speaker 1: Because I would think you're going to use the same

783
00:39:24,880 --> 00:39:29,680
Speaker 1: color scheme of Liberty white, battle red and deep steel blue.

784
00:39:29,920 --> 00:39:34,400
Speaker 1: I would think, I'm curious what kind of changes you

785
00:39:34,440 --> 00:39:37,160
Speaker 1: would make to the jersey. Might there even be a

786
00:39:37,200 --> 00:39:40,320
Speaker 1: logo change? Oh? Oh man, I was thinking about that

787
00:39:40,360 --> 00:39:42,839
Speaker 1: the other day because I looked at something. I don't

788
00:39:42,840 --> 00:39:44,640
Speaker 1: know why, but I was looking at the bullhead and

789
00:39:44,680 --> 00:39:46,960
Speaker 1: I started thinking about the process of picking the bullhead

790
00:39:46,960 --> 00:39:49,480
Speaker 1: because I remember our radio station that we started way

791
00:39:49,520 --> 00:39:53,239
Speaker 1: way back when they literally went months trying to come

792
00:39:53,320 --> 00:39:55,799
Speaker 1: up with a logo. So I wonder how long it

793
00:39:55,840 --> 00:39:58,319
Speaker 1: took to come up with the bullhead we have now

794
00:39:58,440 --> 00:40:02,560
Speaker 1: button with that change? Could it change? Should it change?

795
00:40:03,520 --> 00:40:06,160
Speaker 1: I think Ride is a spicy life. I would be

796
00:40:06,200 --> 00:40:09,120
Speaker 1: okay with it. I'm a traditionalist at heart, but I

797
00:40:09,120 --> 00:40:11,120
Speaker 1: don't mind trying things out and see what they look like.

798
00:40:11,120 --> 00:40:12,839
Speaker 1: That's why in twenty sixteen, when they had the blue

799
00:40:12,840 --> 00:40:15,400
Speaker 1: pants with the red tops, I'm like, yeah, cool, all right,

800
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Speaker 1: shot things on, Let's do it. I'm excited about this

801
00:40:18,680 --> 00:40:21,719
Speaker 1: red helmet. I like it battle Redhead because now I

802
00:40:21,719 --> 00:40:23,680
Speaker 1: can let me answer questions. I can say, well, the

803
00:40:23,680 --> 00:40:25,640
Speaker 1: Texans did this and now they might so yeah, I

804
00:40:25,680 --> 00:40:27,640
Speaker 1: like it. I'm a fan. I'm well that was always

805
00:40:28,040 --> 00:40:29,560
Speaker 1: That was always the second question, because you know what

806
00:40:29,560 --> 00:40:31,680
Speaker 1: the first one was during game week? Will there be

807
00:40:31,680 --> 00:40:34,160
Speaker 1: a trick play? I was thinking of something totally differently,

808
00:40:34,200 --> 00:40:36,840
Speaker 1: but I guess people want trick place. I was thinking

809
00:40:36,880 --> 00:40:40,719
Speaker 1: more about the roof being open. I am always asked

810
00:40:40,760 --> 00:40:42,600
Speaker 1: about the roof being open, and I know drewis too,

811
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Speaker 1: and he acknowledged that a little led in a podcast

812
00:40:45,000 --> 00:40:47,239
Speaker 1: as well. Now, one of the guys that we will

813
00:40:47,280 --> 00:40:50,719
Speaker 1: be watching with the roof open are closed is a

814
00:40:50,800 --> 00:40:54,359
Speaker 1: rookie from a Tascas Ceda from Humble, Texas. He had

815
00:40:54,400 --> 00:40:57,200
Speaker 1: a special day today. That's Kenyan Greene. We'll discuss it

816
00:40:57,200 --> 00:41:02,800
Speaker 1: next right here on Texas All Access. We want to

817
00:41:02,800 --> 00:41:05,280
Speaker 1: fall a segment of this edition of Texas All Access

818
00:41:05,280 --> 00:41:08,880
Speaker 1: from Monday, Texans Radio Studio. I'm John Harris and the

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Speaker 1: mention of Kenyon Green just really gets me excited, especially

820
00:41:14,800 --> 00:41:19,400
Speaker 1: when Kenyon is celebrated as he was in Humble today.

821
00:41:19,920 --> 00:41:26,040
Speaker 1: Kenyon Green Day in Humble and found out that his

822
00:41:26,239 --> 00:41:29,960
Speaker 1: alma mater, a task of Sita, going to retire his

823
00:41:30,239 --> 00:41:35,280
Speaker 1: jersey number during the Texans bye week. Kenyon was asked

824
00:41:35,280 --> 00:41:37,400
Speaker 1: about it, He's like, man, that's crazy. So I've always

825
00:41:37,440 --> 00:41:39,640
Speaker 1: dreamed of that, always said that I wanted that to happen.

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Speaker 1: I can't wait for the pep rally. Congratulations to Kenyon

827
00:41:44,400 --> 00:41:47,480
Speaker 1: Green got his own day out and Numble gonna have

828
00:41:47,560 --> 00:41:50,920
Speaker 1: his jersey retired at a Taska Ceda. Very cool stuff

829
00:41:50,960 --> 00:41:54,120
Speaker 1: for the rookie and hopefully while we're in a bye

830
00:41:54,120 --> 00:41:56,680
Speaker 1: week we could sing his praises for a great start

831
00:41:56,719 --> 00:41:59,680
Speaker 1: to his rookie campaign that is down the road. A

832
00:41:59,680 --> 00:42:03,560
Speaker 1: big thanks to everybody on the show, to Mark, to Drew,

833
00:42:04,400 --> 00:42:08,320
Speaker 1: to Kenyon, congratulations my man, Austin Mendez killing it in studio.

834
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Speaker 1: Thank y'all so much. We'll see tomorrow and as always,

835
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Speaker 1: go Texans.