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Speaker 2: Welcome to Anita. Anita, I'm so grateful and honor to

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Speaker 1: I'm so happy to be here, genuinely glad. Finally, yes, thank.

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Speaker 2: You, thank you. When we were messaging, I got so

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Speaker 2: It is now. I'm just it is three thirty pm.

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Speaker 1: adults that we are, you know, and sometimes we don't

430
00:26:08,960 --> 00:26:13,439
Speaker 1: realize that our inner child can be so hurt that

431
00:26:14,160 --> 00:26:16,879
Speaker 1: start doing things that we don't like. And sometimes we

432
00:26:16,920 --> 00:26:19,600
Speaker 1: ask ourselves, why do I behave like that? Why I'm

433
00:26:19,640 --> 00:26:23,920
Speaker 1: so mad or why I'm so childish sometimes, and it's

434
00:26:23,960 --> 00:26:27,440
Speaker 1: because of that, and we need to learn how to connect.

435
00:26:28,400 --> 00:26:32,720
Speaker 1: And then after that, I just started prioritizing different things,

436
00:26:33,480 --> 00:26:38,119
Speaker 1: you know. I started to prioritize my peace, my time,

437
00:26:38,320 --> 00:26:44,800
Speaker 1: take care of me, because I think people congratulate you

438
00:26:44,960 --> 00:26:51,600
Speaker 1: a lot about your professional accomplishments. Oh you're doing great,

439
00:26:51,680 --> 00:26:54,840
Speaker 1: you're doing good, You're doing great, and then you just

440
00:26:54,880 --> 00:26:58,960
Speaker 1: feel like you need that to be somebody. Yeah, you

441
00:26:59,080 --> 00:27:02,359
Speaker 1: need that to be somebody, and you don't need I

442
00:27:02,400 --> 00:27:04,840
Speaker 1: watched the movie these Days, and I love watching movies

443
00:27:04,880 --> 00:27:07,720
Speaker 1: that put me on a good frequency. I watched a

444
00:27:07,760 --> 00:27:11,119
Speaker 1: movie these Days called Becoming Nobody. I have to watch that.

445
00:27:11,320 --> 00:27:17,560
Speaker 1: It was really good, Becoming Nobody, and I was I

446
00:27:17,600 --> 00:27:19,800
Speaker 1: woke up like some months ago, I woke up feeling

447
00:27:20,760 --> 00:27:23,159
Speaker 1: and I watched this movie and I came back to

448
00:27:23,240 --> 00:27:26,720
Speaker 1: my frequency right away, because you know, there are tools

449
00:27:26,760 --> 00:27:29,600
Speaker 1: that can help you, it's a song or a movie.

450
00:27:29,760 --> 00:27:35,000
Speaker 1: And I was so there was this emptiness inside of

451
00:27:35,040 --> 00:27:38,320
Speaker 1: me that I felt like I could fulfill it with

452
00:27:38,840 --> 00:27:45,959
Speaker 1: success awards, streams, algorithms and these days. A friend of

453
00:27:45,960 --> 00:27:50,800
Speaker 1: mine from Brazil that she was like very poor very like.

454
00:27:51,760 --> 00:27:53,560
Speaker 1: She used to struggle a lot in life, and then

455
00:27:53,640 --> 00:27:59,679
Speaker 1: a few years ago she got everything she wanted, money, everything, success,

456
00:28:00,400 --> 00:28:02,240
Speaker 1: And she texted me, these days and I have my

457
00:28:02,280 --> 00:28:05,280
Speaker 1: friends know that I'm very spiritual nowadays, and so they

458
00:28:05,359 --> 00:28:08,520
Speaker 1: always text me for something. What can I do? I

459
00:28:08,560 --> 00:28:13,080
Speaker 1: feel it's so it's funny and I feel glad. She said,

460
00:28:13,160 --> 00:28:15,719
Speaker 1: I feel like I was happier when I had nothing,

461
00:28:17,320 --> 00:28:20,399
Speaker 1: And I told her, I think it's because when we

462
00:28:20,480 --> 00:28:24,480
Speaker 1: have nothing, we have something to blame. So we say, oh,

463
00:28:24,760 --> 00:28:27,560
Speaker 1: I'm not happy because I don't have the house. I'm

464
00:28:27,560 --> 00:28:30,080
Speaker 1: not happy because I don't have money. I'm not happy

465
00:28:30,119 --> 00:28:34,119
Speaker 1: because I'm not successful. So we just be like, Okay,

466
00:28:34,359 --> 00:28:37,399
Speaker 1: it's because I don't have that, let's keep going. Yeah.

467
00:28:37,440 --> 00:28:40,920
Speaker 1: But when you have it and then you're still not happy,

468
00:28:41,040 --> 00:28:45,000
Speaker 1: there's nobody else to blame but yourself. Wow, And then

469
00:28:45,040 --> 00:28:48,200
Speaker 1: you feel bad because you're like, Wow, I have everything

470
00:28:48,200 --> 00:28:52,040
Speaker 1: and I'm not happy. What's going on? What I'm still

471
00:28:52,080 --> 00:28:55,360
Speaker 1: looking for? You know, I got all the awards I wanted,

472
00:28:55,840 --> 00:28:58,720
Speaker 1: I got all the streams, I got this, I got it,

473
00:28:58,760 --> 00:29:03,280
Speaker 1: and now I still feel that it's missing something. Yeah,

474
00:29:03,480 --> 00:29:07,960
Speaker 1: but it's not it's because we were doing these things

475
00:29:08,640 --> 00:29:12,480
Speaker 1: not because we were feeling good or enjoying the journey.

476
00:29:13,080 --> 00:29:16,240
Speaker 1: It's because we've thought that the result was going to

477
00:29:16,320 --> 00:29:21,280
Speaker 1: fulfill us on something that just we can do for ourselves.

478
00:29:21,400 --> 00:29:25,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, well said, that's really powerful. I've never heard it

479
00:29:25,360 --> 00:29:29,440
Speaker 2: put like that, that difference between when you didn't have anything,

480
00:29:29,480 --> 00:29:32,520
Speaker 2: you had something to blame, whereas when you have everything,

481
00:29:32,520 --> 00:29:36,240
Speaker 2: you don't have anything to blame. And that is so

482
00:29:36,320 --> 00:29:38,400
Speaker 2: interesting because I think people will say, like, oh, money

483
00:29:38,400 --> 00:29:41,680
Speaker 2: doesn't buy happiness or words don't buy happiness, and it's like, sure,

484
00:29:41,760 --> 00:29:43,719
Speaker 2: that makes sense, But the real thing is because we

485
00:29:43,800 --> 00:29:47,240
Speaker 2: haven't yet figured out what does give our life meaning,

486
00:29:47,320 --> 00:29:49,680
Speaker 2: what does give us a sense of connection? And I

487
00:29:49,680 --> 00:29:52,240
Speaker 2: guess that's what's giving you confidence now in your career

488
00:29:52,240 --> 00:29:55,800
Speaker 2: at this stage, Yeah, to shift and create music from

489
00:29:55,840 --> 00:29:58,880
Speaker 2: a place of I'm gonna be bold, i'm gonna be authentic,

490
00:29:58,920 --> 00:30:01,440
Speaker 2: I'm gonna be myself, not going to care about because

491
00:30:01,480 --> 00:30:02,880
Speaker 2: I think at one point you were saying, I was

492
00:30:02,880 --> 00:30:06,720
Speaker 2: reading your amazing on a for you in Variety and

493
00:30:06,760 --> 00:30:09,680
Speaker 2: congratulations on that it was incredible to see and I

494
00:30:09,720 --> 00:30:11,960
Speaker 2: was reading you were talking about how you know, at

495
00:30:12,000 --> 00:30:14,680
Speaker 2: one point you did get really attached and addicted to

496
00:30:14,720 --> 00:30:16,640
Speaker 2: all those things as you do, as things are growing

497
00:30:16,680 --> 00:30:19,000
Speaker 2: and things are going ahead, and you said, well, now

498
00:30:19,040 --> 00:30:21,480
Speaker 2: I actually don't feel that way I want to do.

499
00:30:21,520 --> 00:30:25,040
Speaker 2: You think that's just a natural effect of having achieved

500
00:30:25,040 --> 00:30:26,719
Speaker 2: so much, and then you think to yourself, Okay, now

501
00:30:26,760 --> 00:30:28,120
Speaker 2: I want to do something more meaningful.

502
00:30:28,560 --> 00:30:31,640
Speaker 1: No, I don't think so, because I know a lot

503
00:30:31,680 --> 00:30:36,040
Speaker 1: of people that they still feel that they need more.

504
00:30:36,160 --> 00:30:40,120
Speaker 1: They still feel that it's because they are falling, you know,

505
00:30:40,240 --> 00:30:43,080
Speaker 1: so they still feel like they need more. They want more.

506
00:30:43,320 --> 00:30:45,840
Speaker 1: So they want a bigger house, a bigger car, a

507
00:30:45,920 --> 00:30:49,240
Speaker 1: bigger this, more this, more that, And they are not

508
00:30:50,200 --> 00:30:54,160
Speaker 1: understanding what's the point, you know, they feel like And

509
00:30:54,200 --> 00:31:00,400
Speaker 1: I think it's because nowadays, the streaming, the algorithms, the internet,

510
00:31:00,640 --> 00:31:04,800
Speaker 1: it's just crazy how people operate nowadays. It doesn't matter

511
00:31:04,840 --> 00:31:08,160
Speaker 1: if you have the biggest success for five years, if

512
00:31:08,200 --> 00:31:11,600
Speaker 1: nowadays you're not selling as much. If nowadays you're not

513
00:31:11,760 --> 00:31:14,880
Speaker 1: number one anymore, and you people got used to see

514
00:31:14,920 --> 00:31:18,160
Speaker 1: you number one many times or top ten many times.

515
00:31:18,480 --> 00:31:21,120
Speaker 1: Now you're not even going to top fifty. They're gonna

516
00:31:21,120 --> 00:31:26,200
Speaker 1: start saying, wow, this person dead dead. And I hate

517
00:31:26,240 --> 00:31:28,280
Speaker 1: this behavior of the industry to be like, oh no,

518
00:31:28,920 --> 00:31:32,360
Speaker 1: not hot anymore. This person is hot. Now that person

519
00:31:32,440 --> 00:31:35,080
Speaker 1: not hot. So that means whatever this person did for

520
00:31:35,240 --> 00:31:38,560
Speaker 1: these five years, I don't know, it doesn't matter because

521
00:31:38,640 --> 00:31:43,520
Speaker 1: now this person is not hot anymore. Oh cheezy, oh

522
00:31:43,640 --> 00:31:47,080
Speaker 1: bad eugh, don't associate with this person. This person dad.

523
00:31:47,920 --> 00:31:51,440
Speaker 1: But if tomorrow this person has a success, oh no,

524
00:31:51,560 --> 00:31:55,080
Speaker 1: it's super cool. Come on. And that was driving me

525
00:31:55,200 --> 00:32:00,959
Speaker 1: so crazy, and I just understood we were depending on

526
00:32:01,000 --> 00:32:05,040
Speaker 1: these people's approval to see if we had value or not.

527
00:32:05,640 --> 00:32:09,760
Speaker 1: And I did not want to be dependent on that.

528
00:32:10,440 --> 00:32:13,440
Speaker 1: You know, it feels like you are in the people's hands,

529
00:32:13,480 --> 00:32:16,160
Speaker 1: and I don't want that. And I feel like we

530
00:32:16,240 --> 00:32:21,040
Speaker 1: are only successful and happy if we know that if

531
00:32:21,080 --> 00:32:24,440
Speaker 1: I lose everything, if I'm not number one, number ten,

532
00:32:24,520 --> 00:32:28,520
Speaker 1: number one hundred, number three hundred, I'm still going to

533
00:32:28,600 --> 00:32:32,880
Speaker 1: be happy. If yes, then great. If no, then you

534
00:32:32,920 --> 00:32:35,320
Speaker 1: need to stop everything that you're doing and start working

535
00:32:35,400 --> 00:32:39,360
Speaker 1: on yourself to make sure even if you lose everything,

536
00:32:39,400 --> 00:32:42,560
Speaker 1: you're still happy, because then you're going to make good decisions.

537
00:32:43,120 --> 00:32:46,080
Speaker 1: So I only when I started to go on this

538
00:32:46,280 --> 00:32:50,080
Speaker 1: journey of understanding myself and understanding that I was doing

539
00:32:50,120 --> 00:32:53,080
Speaker 1: things just because I was so empty inside and I

540
00:32:53,120 --> 00:32:56,640
Speaker 1: felt like I was not good enough. I needed more

541
00:32:56,800 --> 00:32:59,920
Speaker 1: people's approval, people love where it was like a drug.

542
00:33:00,400 --> 00:33:03,360
Speaker 1: Success is like a drug if you don't understand. It's

543
00:33:03,360 --> 00:33:06,840
Speaker 1: like part of life. So when I understood that, I

544
00:33:06,920 --> 00:33:09,720
Speaker 1: was like, I'm just gonna do the type of music

545
00:33:09,760 --> 00:33:14,720
Speaker 1: that I feel like if I get ten plays, if

546
00:33:14,760 --> 00:33:19,080
Speaker 1: I have ten million or one hundred, I don't care.

547
00:33:19,520 --> 00:33:22,320
Speaker 1: I want to feel good. I want to feel happy. Also,

548
00:33:22,360 --> 00:33:28,080
Speaker 1: I feel like everyone has their moment. God gives us

549
00:33:28,440 --> 00:33:31,440
Speaker 1: the moment for us to enjoy this amazing and then

550
00:33:31,440 --> 00:33:34,640
Speaker 1: we go to the next to evolve on something else.

551
00:33:35,240 --> 00:33:37,080
Speaker 1: We did what we need to hear. Oh great, you

552
00:33:37,200 --> 00:33:41,360
Speaker 1: killed it, got all the awards, all the success. Let's

553
00:33:41,360 --> 00:33:45,360
Speaker 1: go to another thing. No, we get addicted because the

554
00:33:45,480 --> 00:33:49,840
Speaker 1: people in this environment, if you're not there anymore, they're

555
00:33:49,880 --> 00:33:54,280
Speaker 1: gonna say, ugh, this person, nah, Dad, not good. And

556
00:33:54,320 --> 00:33:56,240
Speaker 1: then you pay attention to that and you're like, no,

557
00:33:56,800 --> 00:33:59,560
Speaker 1: I can't lose this. So you keep doing all the

558
00:33:59,600 --> 00:34:02,200
Speaker 1: things that you were already tired of doing. It doesn't

559
00:34:02,240 --> 00:34:05,560
Speaker 1: give you the same pleasure anymore, but you keep doing

560
00:34:05,600 --> 00:34:10,239
Speaker 1: it just so people don't say you've failed. So I

561
00:34:10,280 --> 00:34:14,040
Speaker 1: was like, you know what, I do not care. Everyone

562
00:34:14,120 --> 00:34:16,839
Speaker 1: can tell me I failed. Oh my gosh, she used

563
00:34:16,880 --> 00:34:21,799
Speaker 1: to be a success. Now nobody cares. I care. That's

564
00:34:21,920 --> 00:34:25,120
Speaker 1: all that matters to me. I don't care if nobody cares.

565
00:34:25,520 --> 00:34:29,919
Speaker 2: You know, I love hearing that there's a beautiful zen

566
00:34:30,040 --> 00:34:32,600
Speaker 2: saying that you're reminding me of this zen saying says

567
00:34:32,760 --> 00:34:36,640
Speaker 2: that letting go is hard, but holding on is harder.

568
00:34:37,320 --> 00:34:40,200
Speaker 2: And all of our pain is coming because we're holding

569
00:34:40,239 --> 00:34:43,480
Speaker 2: on to who we were, holding on to who we wish.

570
00:34:43,520 --> 00:34:46,399
Speaker 2: We were holding on to what people used to love,

571
00:34:46,800 --> 00:34:50,000
Speaker 2: holding on to what people validated, what people approved, and

572
00:34:50,040 --> 00:34:53,760
Speaker 2: we're holding on to that and not realizing that universe,

573
00:34:53,920 --> 00:34:57,480
Speaker 2: the God energy is trying to gently take us away,

574
00:34:58,000 --> 00:35:00,480
Speaker 2: but our holding on is what's making it so aggressive

575
00:35:00,520 --> 00:35:03,080
Speaker 2: and painful. And that's when you know, if you're holding

576
00:35:03,120 --> 00:35:07,240
Speaker 2: on to anything really, really tight and it's being taken away,

577
00:35:07,480 --> 00:35:09,319
Speaker 2: it's gonna hurt you. And I think that's what we

578
00:35:09,400 --> 00:35:13,840
Speaker 2: will go through. We don't want to gracefully accept growth,

579
00:35:14,239 --> 00:35:17,880
Speaker 2: and so we sometimes get aggressively pushed out and pushed

580
00:35:17,920 --> 00:35:18,359
Speaker 2: through it.

581
00:35:18,560 --> 00:35:23,160
Speaker 1: Yes, it's because I think society has taught us that

582
00:35:23,719 --> 00:35:28,280
Speaker 1: we need to always be growing. But when they say growing,

583
00:35:28,400 --> 00:35:33,319
Speaker 1: it's not inside, it's outside. So your house cannot be

584
00:35:33,440 --> 00:35:36,400
Speaker 1: the same house in ten years. You have to be

585
00:35:36,480 --> 00:35:39,160
Speaker 1: moved to a bigger one, a better one. Your job

586
00:35:39,239 --> 00:35:43,160
Speaker 1: cannot be the same job, even if you're happy. No, no, no,

587
00:35:43,200 --> 00:35:47,319
Speaker 1: you got to be bigger. But nature is one thing

588
00:35:47,360 --> 00:35:50,399
Speaker 1: we come here and we have. If we see how

589
00:35:50,480 --> 00:35:54,480
Speaker 1: animals behave right, they go to a tree. The bird

590
00:35:54,520 --> 00:35:58,719
Speaker 1: goes there, eat what's necessary for him and leaves. The

591
00:35:58,800 --> 00:36:02,160
Speaker 1: human goes there and gets what's necessary for him. And

592
00:36:02,239 --> 00:36:05,600
Speaker 1: let me get more, just to have, just to see

593
00:36:05,600 --> 00:36:08,680
Speaker 1: that I have more, just to show people that I

594
00:36:08,719 --> 00:36:11,759
Speaker 1: have more. But then you're not even you don't need it,

595
00:36:12,360 --> 00:36:15,600
Speaker 1: you don't need it. But the way society taught us

596
00:36:15,719 --> 00:36:19,040
Speaker 1: that we need more, we need to be every day

597
00:36:19,400 --> 00:36:23,800
Speaker 1: bigger and bigger. Then if you go a little smaller

598
00:36:24,120 --> 00:36:26,960
Speaker 1: in this area to go bigger in another area that

599
00:36:27,000 --> 00:36:31,520
Speaker 1: people are not seeing, that doesn't it's not the same value.

600
00:36:31,760 --> 00:36:35,840
Speaker 1: You know. I chose now in my life to I understood.

601
00:36:35,880 --> 00:36:38,600
Speaker 1: I went so big and it was so good. I'm

602
00:36:38,640 --> 00:36:41,240
Speaker 1: down to keep going. And if it goes bigger, it's cool.

603
00:36:41,360 --> 00:36:45,120
Speaker 1: If it doesn't, it's super cool. Too. I'm happy to

604
00:36:45,160 --> 00:36:47,200
Speaker 1: sing to the amount of people that I'm singing now,

605
00:36:47,280 --> 00:36:51,480
Speaker 1: or if it becomes less because I'm a little less crazy,

606
00:36:51,600 --> 00:36:54,800
Speaker 1: it's fine to me too, because I want to grow

607
00:36:54,960 --> 00:36:58,640
Speaker 1: in something else. It's so good when you do. When

608
00:36:58,640 --> 00:37:01,279
Speaker 1: I do my spiritual things, so happy, I feel like

609
00:37:01,400 --> 00:37:06,120
Speaker 1: nothing could give me this happiness. It doesn't end, it's

610
00:37:06,600 --> 00:37:09,440
Speaker 1: it just goes and it goes, that goes bigger, and

611
00:37:09,480 --> 00:37:13,879
Speaker 1: it's unfinishable, you know, And it doesn't give you anxiety.

612
00:37:14,200 --> 00:37:18,080
Speaker 1: It just gets better, better, better, And I'm like, I'm

613
00:37:18,320 --> 00:37:22,000
Speaker 1: super down to be less successful here and make more money.

614
00:37:22,480 --> 00:37:27,000
Speaker 1: Would less not more money, make like less money to

615
00:37:27,160 --> 00:37:30,399
Speaker 1: get big on this other side, which is inside.

616
00:37:29,960 --> 00:37:33,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, yeah, yeah. I always find that material

617
00:37:33,920 --> 00:37:38,600
Speaker 2: language is big and better, bigger and better, and then

618
00:37:38,840 --> 00:37:43,040
Speaker 2: spiritual language is deeper and more impactful, and and that

619
00:37:43,280 --> 00:37:46,560
Speaker 2: depth is I think what sounds like you're searching after

620
00:37:46,640 --> 00:37:49,880
Speaker 2: with Was this the same time that you were suffering

621
00:37:49,880 --> 00:37:53,800
Speaker 2: with like endometriosis? Yes, was this like the hormony? Change that?

622
00:37:54,200 --> 00:37:56,640
Speaker 1: And then it was more and then I found out

623
00:37:56,640 --> 00:37:58,840
Speaker 1: that was there that, and then it was my bladder,

624
00:37:58,880 --> 00:38:00,520
Speaker 1: and then it was it was so many things. And

625
00:38:00,640 --> 00:38:02,800
Speaker 1: when I came out. I came out of the retreat

626
00:38:03,840 --> 00:38:08,480
Speaker 1: the cancer levels and my blood was not there anymore.

627
00:38:09,760 --> 00:38:12,120
Speaker 1: I didn't have anything. It was just getting better. And

628
00:38:12,200 --> 00:38:15,120
Speaker 1: now I feel like I'm in control. I do feel

629
00:38:15,200 --> 00:38:19,760
Speaker 1: like emotional when we hold on to emotional emotional traumas

630
00:38:19,800 --> 00:38:22,960
Speaker 1: and things like that, it can get physical, you know.

631
00:38:23,040 --> 00:38:26,799
Speaker 1: And when I do like family constellations for example, if

632
00:38:26,920 --> 00:38:29,439
Speaker 1: people don't they never heard of it, please search because

633
00:38:29,480 --> 00:38:34,440
Speaker 1: it's so good. When I do that, I feel sometimes

634
00:38:34,480 --> 00:38:38,440
Speaker 1: pain in somewhere while we're doing the session. I feel like, oh,

635
00:38:38,520 --> 00:38:42,839
Speaker 1: my bladder or my heart or my stomach. And then

636
00:38:42,880 --> 00:38:46,080
Speaker 1: when it's when it's over, I feel like, oo, I cleaned.

637
00:38:47,000 --> 00:38:49,480
Speaker 1: It's better, you know. So I do feel like it

638
00:38:49,520 --> 00:38:51,760
Speaker 1: can become physical for sure.

639
00:38:52,040 --> 00:38:55,480
Speaker 2: What would the biggest traumas that have stayed with you,

640
00:38:55,480 --> 00:38:57,040
Speaker 2: that have come up for you that you feel you've

641
00:38:57,040 --> 00:38:59,080
Speaker 2: carried because you obviously grew up in the favelas, you

642
00:38:59,120 --> 00:39:02,680
Speaker 2: grew up not in the easiest of circumstances. I think

643
00:39:02,719 --> 00:39:07,040
Speaker 2: you mentioned yourself that you're almost treated like trash in

644
00:39:07,160 --> 00:39:09,759
Speaker 2: Brazilian people in the first so long and so like,

645
00:39:10,520 --> 00:39:12,480
Speaker 2: tell me about what are the traumas you felt you've

646
00:39:12,480 --> 00:39:15,520
Speaker 2: held onto from your childhood that now coming up that

647
00:39:15,560 --> 00:39:16,439
Speaker 2: you're healing now.

648
00:39:16,920 --> 00:39:21,759
Speaker 1: So there's this one interesting situation in the path of

649
00:39:21,800 --> 00:39:25,440
Speaker 1: this healing thing. There was this one thought that was

650
00:39:25,480 --> 00:39:28,760
Speaker 1: always coming to my mind. Right I was here being anita.

651
00:39:28,880 --> 00:39:32,959
Speaker 1: I have three different houses, I have everything I need. Okay,

652
00:39:33,000 --> 00:39:35,440
Speaker 1: if I want to retire right now, I can and

653
00:39:35,520 --> 00:39:38,800
Speaker 1: I will live comfortably for the rest of my life.

654
00:39:38,920 --> 00:39:43,080
Speaker 1: But all of a sudden, I was just here minding

655
00:39:43,120 --> 00:39:45,920
Speaker 1: my business, and I thought would come to my mind.

656
00:39:46,280 --> 00:39:47,799
Speaker 1: What if I get pregnant and I lose all my

657
00:39:47,840 --> 00:39:50,160
Speaker 1: money and I don't have money to survive, and then

658
00:39:50,160 --> 00:39:53,239
Speaker 1: I need to work in the street to get food

659
00:39:53,280 --> 00:39:55,920
Speaker 1: to my babies and to and I'll be like, why

660
00:39:55,960 --> 00:40:00,000
Speaker 1: am I thinking this? Why am I doing that? Why?

661
00:40:01,600 --> 00:40:05,640
Speaker 1: And then I did this session with my shaman, and

662
00:40:05,719 --> 00:40:09,120
Speaker 1: she said, this is not your thought. You got this

663
00:40:09,239 --> 00:40:12,040
Speaker 1: thought the same way we get DNA from our parents,

664
00:40:12,040 --> 00:40:15,799
Speaker 1: and like the hair, the eyes, the body, we can

665
00:40:15,880 --> 00:40:21,279
Speaker 1: get from thoughts and the energy behaviors and we don't

666
00:40:21,280 --> 00:40:26,520
Speaker 1: realize that. So I told her, oh, for real, And

667
00:40:26,520 --> 00:40:29,120
Speaker 1: then we did a session to clean this right, to

668
00:40:29,239 --> 00:40:32,759
Speaker 1: remove this from me because it's not mine. It comes

669
00:40:32,800 --> 00:40:35,440
Speaker 1: from my family. So I did the session and I

670
00:40:35,480 --> 00:40:37,160
Speaker 1: talked to my mom. I said, Mom, have you ever

671
00:40:37,200 --> 00:40:39,560
Speaker 1: had this thought of like that you were going to

672
00:40:39,640 --> 00:40:42,160
Speaker 1: lose everything, We're not gonna have money, this and that.

673
00:40:43,080 --> 00:40:46,160
Speaker 1: And that was like right before my birthday of thirty

674
00:40:46,239 --> 00:40:52,160
Speaker 1: years old birthday. So she said, yeah, when I got

675
00:40:52,200 --> 00:40:57,319
Speaker 1: pregnant from you, your dad lost his job and I

676
00:40:57,480 --> 00:40:59,600
Speaker 1: felt like we were not going to have money to

677
00:40:59,760 --> 00:41:03,040
Speaker 1: feed you guys, and I would need to work in

678
00:41:03,560 --> 00:41:07,760
Speaker 1: houses as like a housemaid or something to buy food.

679
00:41:09,440 --> 00:41:12,239
Speaker 1: And I was like, wow, that makes she spent the

680
00:41:12,320 --> 00:41:16,680
Speaker 1: whole pregnancy with this fear of not having the money

681
00:41:16,719 --> 00:41:20,200
Speaker 1: to feed us, so she was fearing it. And there

682
00:41:20,280 --> 00:41:22,960
Speaker 1: is like I produced a movie with a friend of

683
00:41:23,000 --> 00:41:28,400
Speaker 1: mine called Me, and it talks about this the thoughts,

684
00:41:28,680 --> 00:41:31,719
Speaker 1: the negative thoughts that your mom cares and the pregnancy

685
00:41:32,280 --> 00:41:38,479
Speaker 1: becomes neuropeptides in your in your brain, so that's why

686
00:41:38,520 --> 00:41:42,160
Speaker 1: you have these thoughts. And I was like wow, mom.

687
00:41:42,920 --> 00:41:45,120
Speaker 1: And I did the session with the lady and I

688
00:41:45,160 --> 00:41:49,680
Speaker 1: got I never had this thought again. And then I

689
00:41:49,760 --> 00:41:52,920
Speaker 1: was doing my birthday. It was thirty years old, so special,

690
00:41:54,200 --> 00:41:56,120
Speaker 1: and I had this place that I wanted to do

691
00:41:56,160 --> 00:42:00,080
Speaker 1: in Brazil and for some reason, every place I was

692
00:42:00,120 --> 00:42:04,399
Speaker 1: trying it was not available. I was trying everywhere, all

693
00:42:04,480 --> 00:42:06,719
Speaker 1: not available because of this not available. Because of that,

694
00:42:06,760 --> 00:42:10,319
Speaker 1: I closed one place. No not avaiable anymore. So there's

695
00:42:10,360 --> 00:42:14,680
Speaker 1: just this one place, just this one spot. And I said, okay,

696
00:42:14,920 --> 00:42:17,480
Speaker 1: let's go. What can we do. It's the only spot.

697
00:42:17,560 --> 00:42:21,480
Speaker 1: Let's let's go. So I sent my dad the invitation.

698
00:42:21,600 --> 00:42:23,680
Speaker 1: Said to my dad, I said, oh, Dad, the party

699
00:42:23,719 --> 00:42:25,759
Speaker 1: this year is going to be here. He was like,

700
00:42:25,880 --> 00:42:31,440
Speaker 1: oh my god, daughter, this address is my dad didn't

701
00:42:31,440 --> 00:42:34,040
Speaker 1: know about the talk I had, so my mom nothing

702
00:42:34,200 --> 00:42:39,160
Speaker 1: right and he's my best friend, but I didn't mention him.

703
00:42:39,960 --> 00:42:44,960
Speaker 1: He goes, oh my god, daughter, this address used to

704
00:42:45,000 --> 00:42:48,560
Speaker 1: be the company's address that I got fired when your

705
00:42:48,600 --> 00:42:52,719
Speaker 1: mom was pregnant. And I was like, I'm dad, Wow,

706
00:42:52,960 --> 00:42:56,560
Speaker 1: Like we're here celebrating my thirty years old with a

707
00:42:56,600 --> 00:42:59,320
Speaker 1: party like full of everything that we were always afraid

708
00:42:59,320 --> 00:43:06,120
Speaker 1: of not having and the same address. That's crazy where

709
00:43:06,160 --> 00:43:09,120
Speaker 1: in life? That for me was such an answer from

710
00:43:09,120 --> 00:43:12,680
Speaker 1: the universe, right, And I was like, Wow, this is

711
00:43:12,719 --> 00:43:17,520
Speaker 1: so meaningful and life is full of these these situations

712
00:43:17,520 --> 00:43:19,319
Speaker 1: that from me are not coincidents at all.

713
00:43:19,840 --> 00:43:23,279
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's that's incredible. It is that's really powerful, and

714
00:43:23,320 --> 00:43:26,960
Speaker 2: I love that full circle moment. I agree and I

715
00:43:27,000 --> 00:43:29,160
Speaker 2: love I mean the movie that you made is that out?

716
00:43:29,160 --> 00:43:30,120
Speaker 2: Where can we watch that?

717
00:43:30,239 --> 00:43:33,200
Speaker 1: Me? The name is me? My friend of mine, the

718
00:43:33,200 --> 00:43:37,799
Speaker 1: one introduced me to this shaman. She did it, and

719
00:43:37,840 --> 00:43:41,480
Speaker 1: then she called she asked me to help her producing

720
00:43:41,560 --> 00:43:45,839
Speaker 1: it and sharing with the platforms and everything. So I

721
00:43:45,920 --> 00:43:51,440
Speaker 1: was helping her on this final touch of the movie.

722
00:43:51,880 --> 00:43:54,959
Speaker 1: And it talks about this about how you can get

723
00:43:55,000 --> 00:43:59,480
Speaker 1: heritage from your parents, not only in your blood physical,

724
00:43:59,520 --> 00:44:04,399
Speaker 1: but all also mental and calmas that come from your mom,

725
00:44:04,719 --> 00:44:09,240
Speaker 1: from your grandmother, from because it comes from father to daughter,

726
00:44:09,760 --> 00:44:14,640
Speaker 1: you know. And it's important to clean it, to work

727
00:44:14,800 --> 00:44:18,680
Speaker 1: on it, because otherwise we're here with no purpose. We're

728
00:44:18,719 --> 00:44:21,120
Speaker 1: not we get We spend all this time here and

729
00:44:21,160 --> 00:44:24,680
Speaker 1: we don't figure out what's your purpose? What are you

730
00:44:24,840 --> 00:44:27,440
Speaker 1: here for? You know? And I always had in my

731
00:44:27,560 --> 00:44:33,080
Speaker 1: life this desire to understand. And when I was a kid,

732
00:44:33,120 --> 00:44:36,960
Speaker 1: I was very like that already. I used to dream

733
00:44:37,000 --> 00:44:39,320
Speaker 1: a lot of about a lot of things. My mom

734
00:44:39,560 --> 00:44:43,240
Speaker 1: tells me that I used to wake up and see people,

735
00:44:44,080 --> 00:44:47,879
Speaker 1: and I was always very connected. I used to tell

736
00:44:47,920 --> 00:44:50,680
Speaker 1: them everything that was going to happen in my life,

737
00:44:50,680 --> 00:44:55,120
Speaker 1: every visions everything. I used to tell them, like, Oh,

738
00:44:55,360 --> 00:44:57,080
Speaker 1: I'm going to sing here, I'm going to do this,

739
00:44:57,560 --> 00:44:59,000
Speaker 1: our house is going to be like this, like this.

740
00:44:59,440 --> 00:45:06,120
Speaker 1: I used to give them details of everything. And my dad,

741
00:45:06,200 --> 00:45:10,480
Speaker 1: who was always very stressed with work, and he tells

742
00:45:10,520 --> 00:45:13,240
Speaker 1: me that I used to come to him and say, Dad,

743
00:45:13,520 --> 00:45:16,680
Speaker 1: don't worry. In the end, everything's going to be great.

744
00:45:16,760 --> 00:45:20,200
Speaker 1: You will see you're so smart, you're so cute, you're

745
00:45:20,280 --> 00:45:23,239
Speaker 1: so nice. In the end, you will see you're not

746
00:45:23,320 --> 00:45:25,480
Speaker 1: gonna worry about any of this. I'm going to be

747
00:45:25,480 --> 00:45:27,920
Speaker 1: a singer. I'm going to do this and that. And

748
00:45:27,960 --> 00:45:30,319
Speaker 1: it's so fun when he tells me, because I was

749
00:45:30,400 --> 00:45:35,880
Speaker 1: actually describing so precisily with precisely what was going to happen.

750
00:45:36,280 --> 00:45:39,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, you've it sounds like you've made so

751
00:45:39,239 --> 00:45:44,600
Speaker 2: much spiritual investment in transforming your mind, your heart, your energy,

752
00:45:44,640 --> 00:45:47,279
Speaker 2: your space. And at the same time you've also made

753
00:45:47,320 --> 00:45:51,040
Speaker 2: physical changes, like I was learning that you also were

754
00:45:51,040 --> 00:45:53,120
Speaker 2: on birth control and then you left birth control, and

755
00:45:53,160 --> 00:45:56,319
Speaker 2: I feel like even those types of changes, yes, were

756
00:45:56,400 --> 00:45:59,799
Speaker 2: linked to this kind of internal change that was going

757
00:45:59,840 --> 00:46:02,600
Speaker 2: on right like walk me through how life has been

758
00:46:03,320 --> 00:46:05,400
Speaker 2: different when you were on birth control and when you

759
00:46:05,520 --> 00:46:07,520
Speaker 2: left like and woke us through that decision.

760
00:46:07,600 --> 00:46:11,320
Speaker 1: I just feel like it's not natural. It was not natural,

761
00:46:11,480 --> 00:46:14,160
Speaker 1: you know, and I was just and it's not fair

762
00:46:14,239 --> 00:46:16,719
Speaker 1: if you stop to think why just the woman needs

763
00:46:16,760 --> 00:46:20,239
Speaker 1: to suffer about this situation. You know, it needs to

764
00:46:20,280 --> 00:46:26,000
Speaker 1: be a two people decision and prevention and care. But

765
00:46:26,840 --> 00:46:31,160
Speaker 1: with hormones, it was crazy because I couldn't be It

766
00:46:31,239 --> 00:46:33,840
Speaker 1: was just never life was never like this. It was

767
00:46:33,880 --> 00:46:38,319
Speaker 1: like crazy to me and I don't get along. My

768
00:46:38,400 --> 00:46:42,120
Speaker 1: body doesn't receive this well, you know. And when I

769
00:46:42,160 --> 00:46:47,560
Speaker 1: started to accept to go into more of a natural life.

770
00:46:47,840 --> 00:46:52,600
Speaker 1: Also in my nutrition, I try to eat vegan and

771
00:46:52,680 --> 00:46:55,960
Speaker 1: a lot of moments not one hundred percent. I made

772
00:46:56,000 --> 00:46:58,839
Speaker 1: it for two years and then wow it got Yeah,

773
00:46:58,960 --> 00:47:01,560
Speaker 1: it was really good. I hope I can get again

774
00:47:01,640 --> 00:47:06,239
Speaker 1: in the future. But the more I can, I think

775
00:47:06,320 --> 00:47:11,440
Speaker 1: if everyone cuts at least thirty percent, thirty percent, you

776
00:47:11,600 --> 00:47:16,040
Speaker 1: can still eat, but just thirty percent less of animals,

777
00:47:17,320 --> 00:47:22,600
Speaker 1: food and everything. It's already so good for the world,

778
00:47:23,239 --> 00:47:27,120
Speaker 1: you know, and also for our energy. I understand it's hard,

779
00:47:27,160 --> 00:47:30,640
Speaker 1: it's delicious. I couldn't I made it two years and

780
00:47:30,800 --> 00:47:35,440
Speaker 1: I'm back, but just thirty percent less everyone. If we

781
00:47:35,520 --> 00:47:38,320
Speaker 1: all get together in this decision, it's already a big

782
00:47:38,440 --> 00:47:41,240
Speaker 1: shift for the universe. You know. That's what I believe.

783
00:47:41,520 --> 00:47:44,440
Speaker 1: And it changed a lot to me when I started

784
00:47:44,440 --> 00:47:49,839
Speaker 1: a care and give more attention and priority to this

785
00:47:50,000 --> 00:47:53,279
Speaker 1: side of life, because before I was just worried about

786
00:47:53,360 --> 00:47:57,920
Speaker 1: being more successful, richer, make more money. And what it

787
00:47:58,040 --> 00:48:01,440
Speaker 1: was crazy was that I wanted to make more money,

788
00:48:01,440 --> 00:48:04,120
Speaker 1: be more successful, but I had no idea how much

789
00:48:04,160 --> 00:48:07,360
Speaker 1: money it had. I didn't check my bank accounts and

790
00:48:07,440 --> 00:48:12,759
Speaker 1: I was just making to make it. I didn't even know. Nowadays,

791
00:48:13,280 --> 00:48:16,440
Speaker 1: I'm more chill, but I know. I check my stuff,

792
00:48:16,480 --> 00:48:19,279
Speaker 1: I take care of it. But I'm like, okay, I

793
00:48:19,360 --> 00:48:22,200
Speaker 1: can chill. I don't need a bigger house, I don't

794
00:48:22,200 --> 00:48:26,480
Speaker 1: need a two different cars. I'm fine.

795
00:48:26,680 --> 00:48:29,520
Speaker 2: You know, how is the birth control negatively affecting you

796
00:48:29,560 --> 00:48:30,560
Speaker 2: hormonially or.

797
00:48:32,200 --> 00:48:38,359
Speaker 1: Hair loss? And then the skin goes crazy, and then

798
00:48:38,400 --> 00:48:41,800
Speaker 1: the mood goes crazy, and then you get very depressed

799
00:48:41,800 --> 00:48:45,760
Speaker 1: in a moment and then very happy and then very angry,

800
00:48:45,800 --> 00:48:49,719
Speaker 1: and that it's rolla culture. It's a roller culture. And

801
00:48:50,600 --> 00:48:54,720
Speaker 1: I just didn't want that and then and also your energy.

802
00:48:55,640 --> 00:48:58,719
Speaker 1: When it gets close to the period, you have no energy.

803
00:48:58,760 --> 00:49:00,960
Speaker 1: I just wanted to sleep all day. It was just

804
00:49:01,400 --> 00:49:04,719
Speaker 1: so bad, And now I'm just stable.

805
00:49:04,880 --> 00:49:06,960
Speaker 2: I'm always saying you feel that different.

806
00:49:07,080 --> 00:49:11,120
Speaker 1: I can feel totally the difference. But it took for

807
00:49:11,280 --> 00:49:15,760
Speaker 1: me more than a year to get clean from birth control,

808
00:49:17,120 --> 00:49:19,480
Speaker 1: more than a year for me to stop feeling the

809
00:49:19,520 --> 00:49:20,160
Speaker 1: side effects.

810
00:49:20,440 --> 00:49:22,880
Speaker 2: And it's interesting what you said about that joint responsibility

811
00:49:22,920 --> 00:49:26,960
Speaker 2: of prevention between two people, but it all falls on moment.

812
00:49:27,120 --> 00:49:31,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's two people deciding something right. It shouldn't be

813
00:49:31,400 --> 00:49:34,600
Speaker 1: just the women's responsibility. And I feel like if it

814
00:49:34,760 --> 00:49:39,400
Speaker 1: was the men getting pregnant, it would be very different,

815
00:49:39,480 --> 00:49:44,359
Speaker 1: very different. The laws would be different, the birth controls

816
00:49:44,400 --> 00:49:48,000
Speaker 1: would be different, everything would be very different.

817
00:49:48,120 --> 00:49:50,759
Speaker 2: And I think people don't realize these side effects that

818
00:49:50,840 --> 00:49:53,440
Speaker 2: you're explaining right now. I feel like it's so common

819
00:49:53,719 --> 00:49:56,400
Speaker 2: for women to be on birth control, but people don't realize,

820
00:49:56,440 --> 00:49:59,959
Speaker 2: like how many other negative impacts it's having in life,

821
00:50:00,040 --> 00:50:02,239
Speaker 2: whether it's mood performance, yes, And.

822
00:50:02,239 --> 00:50:06,840
Speaker 1: I think also in the future, maybe when you're older,

823
00:50:07,239 --> 00:50:10,120
Speaker 1: you're going to feel more. And before I had I

824
00:50:10,160 --> 00:50:12,880
Speaker 1: had a cobra IUD and it was so bad for

825
00:50:13,000 --> 00:50:16,400
Speaker 1: my youthirs so bad. It was just a lot of blood,

826
00:50:16,800 --> 00:50:19,960
Speaker 1: and it's worse for the endometriosities. It was a whole thing.

827
00:50:20,520 --> 00:50:25,080
Speaker 1: So nowadays I just use condom. They exist. They exist

828
00:50:25,160 --> 00:50:29,439
Speaker 1: for a reason, you know. I pray God, I talk

829
00:50:29,520 --> 00:50:32,600
Speaker 1: to the universe. I planned with the universe. When it's

830
00:50:32,640 --> 00:50:35,640
Speaker 1: the time, I use the condom and let's go, no,

831
00:50:35,640 --> 00:50:40,439
Speaker 1: no kid today. I just I just I can feel it,

832
00:50:40,520 --> 00:50:43,680
Speaker 1: and uh, I think the universe when you plant it

833
00:50:44,080 --> 00:50:46,960
Speaker 1: and when you communicate. I communicate with the universe so much.

834
00:50:47,560 --> 00:50:49,719
Speaker 1: I say, okay, so I want to do this, this

835
00:50:49,760 --> 00:50:52,600
Speaker 1: and that, and then you can send me the person

836
00:50:52,640 --> 00:50:55,759
Speaker 1: that I believe that it's a good person to be

837
00:50:55,920 --> 00:50:58,680
Speaker 1: the father, be the father of my kids, and then

838
00:50:58,920 --> 00:51:01,759
Speaker 1: or the mother, and then I will be ready to

839
00:51:01,800 --> 00:51:05,200
Speaker 1: do it. But I want this answer for me to

840
00:51:05,280 --> 00:51:08,120
Speaker 1: start this. I need the answer the universe to give

841
00:51:08,160 --> 00:51:11,919
Speaker 1: me that. So I always talk. I write a lot

842
00:51:12,280 --> 00:51:16,839
Speaker 1: what I want. I checked the eclipses the moon, and

843
00:51:16,880 --> 00:51:19,799
Speaker 1: I write according to that. And then I feel like

844
00:51:20,040 --> 00:51:25,520
Speaker 1: all of this are like natural, safe rituals that you

845
00:51:25,560 --> 00:51:28,319
Speaker 1: can do that can only do good for you, you know.

846
00:51:28,800 --> 00:51:33,280
Speaker 1: And I like to take baths, baths of plants, roses

847
00:51:34,640 --> 00:51:37,239
Speaker 1: where different plants that are good for different I love

848
00:51:37,280 --> 00:51:43,200
Speaker 1: the indigenous thoughts that that they have and the way

849
00:51:43,680 --> 00:51:47,080
Speaker 1: the plants can cure everything, and also the energy. So

850
00:51:47,120 --> 00:51:50,200
Speaker 1: I use that a lot on me. I do my

851
00:51:50,280 --> 00:51:52,200
Speaker 1: own my own stuff.

852
00:51:52,880 --> 00:51:56,120
Speaker 2: That's incredible. I love it. And you've talked a lot

853
00:51:56,120 --> 00:51:59,640
Speaker 2: about the difference between your authentic self Larissa, and then

854
00:51:59,680 --> 00:52:02,879
Speaker 2: any I want to know what are the differences in

855
00:52:02,920 --> 00:52:05,520
Speaker 2: your mind now as you've been it seems like you've

856
00:52:05,560 --> 00:52:07,719
Speaker 2: been aligning yourself, Like, what are the differences now?

857
00:52:08,000 --> 00:52:11,719
Speaker 1: Yes, So every time I do family constellations. I don't

858
00:52:11,719 --> 00:52:14,280
Speaker 1: know if you know exactly how this process goes.

859
00:52:14,360 --> 00:52:16,799
Speaker 2: I know a little bit, But tell us like this.

860
00:52:17,040 --> 00:52:20,480
Speaker 1: You get a therapist that is the professional. She opens

861
00:52:20,520 --> 00:52:23,920
Speaker 1: a circle of energy and then there's a lot of

862
00:52:23,920 --> 00:52:26,840
Speaker 1: people there. Right, they know nothing about your life, nothing

863
00:52:26,880 --> 00:52:30,759
Speaker 1: about your going there to treat, So you just tell them.

864
00:52:30,840 --> 00:52:33,200
Speaker 1: You decide the theme so you can say, oh, I

865
00:52:33,239 --> 00:52:36,320
Speaker 1: want to treat today, I want to treat my anxiety,

866
00:52:36,480 --> 00:52:40,640
Speaker 1: or I want to treat depression or whatever. So I'm

867
00:52:40,840 --> 00:52:44,120
Speaker 1: give an example. There was this day I said today

868
00:52:44,160 --> 00:52:49,520
Speaker 1: I want to treat self love and then it comes

869
00:52:50,600 --> 00:52:53,880
Speaker 1: for me. Right. So, and if you go there and

870
00:52:53,920 --> 00:52:57,040
Speaker 1: you want to treat whatever these people, this ten people

871
00:52:57,040 --> 00:53:00,919
Speaker 1: there are there, they're gonna get in their bodies the

872
00:53:01,080 --> 00:53:05,920
Speaker 1: energy of the people from your family that caused you

873
00:53:06,239 --> 00:53:12,000
Speaker 1: this trauma in your body in that precise moment. So

874
00:53:12,120 --> 00:53:16,920
Speaker 1: let's say you have anxiety and then you say you

875
00:53:16,960 --> 00:53:19,760
Speaker 1: sit there and say, oh, I have anxiety. These people

876
00:53:19,800 --> 00:53:23,359
Speaker 1: one person is gonna receive your dad's energy. It's not

877
00:53:23,400 --> 00:53:25,640
Speaker 1: that he's going to receive the spirit because your dad

878
00:53:25,680 --> 00:53:29,279
Speaker 1: is alive, your mom is alive, everyone is alive. But

879
00:53:29,360 --> 00:53:33,400
Speaker 1: they get the energy and they start telling you where

880
00:53:33,719 --> 00:53:40,920
Speaker 1: this moment of trauma was done designed draw like written,

881
00:53:41,320 --> 00:53:43,560
Speaker 1: you know. So let's suppose it's because when you were

882
00:53:44,040 --> 00:53:47,480
Speaker 1: ten years old, your parents divorced and they were not together.

883
00:53:47,560 --> 00:53:50,200
Speaker 1: They were fighting a lot. So they are gonna talk

884
00:53:50,600 --> 00:53:53,919
Speaker 1: as if it was in that moment, and then the

885
00:53:53,920 --> 00:53:59,759
Speaker 1: therapist will propose like a solution, which is like making

886
00:53:59,800 --> 00:54:02,839
Speaker 1: peas with each other, understanding that's the best for your

887
00:54:02,920 --> 00:54:05,719
Speaker 1: kid is to for you guys to understand the kid

888
00:54:05,800 --> 00:54:10,000
Speaker 1: is half of each one. And then you get together

889
00:54:10,200 --> 00:54:14,040
Speaker 1: and you're just one, right, and you're good. So I

890
00:54:14,080 --> 00:54:17,560
Speaker 1: did it many times. So with this consolation, you understand

891
00:54:17,600 --> 00:54:21,880
Speaker 1: the importance of valuing your dad and your mom or

892
00:54:21,960 --> 00:54:27,040
Speaker 1: not buying the fight of choosing one side because you

893
00:54:27,040 --> 00:54:29,880
Speaker 1: are fifty percent of each one of that. I'm fifty

894
00:54:29,880 --> 00:54:32,640
Speaker 1: percent my dad, I'm fifty percent my mom. I cannot

895
00:54:32,680 --> 00:54:37,239
Speaker 1: decide who wins the fight of their divortion because they

896
00:54:37,239 --> 00:54:40,480
Speaker 1: are older, they are adults. I am just a kid

897
00:54:40,560 --> 00:54:44,160
Speaker 1: that are not the responsible for that, And I need

898
00:54:44,200 --> 00:54:48,719
Speaker 1: to understand and be grateful that they together did me.

899
00:54:49,480 --> 00:54:53,000
Speaker 1: And if I start, if I choose a part, I'm

900
00:54:53,040 --> 00:54:56,160
Speaker 1: gonna be saying bye to fifty percent of myself. So

901
00:54:56,200 --> 00:54:59,240
Speaker 1: I'm never gonna be happy. I need to be grateful.

902
00:55:00,080 --> 00:55:03,919
Speaker 1: So that's basically what happens in the constellation. So when

903
00:55:04,840 --> 00:55:07,120
Speaker 1: I do my constellation, it's not only one person that

904
00:55:07,160 --> 00:55:11,640
Speaker 1: represents me is too when person always comes with Anita's

905
00:55:11,719 --> 00:55:16,120
Speaker 1: energy and the other was Ladissa energy, and Anita is

906
00:55:16,239 --> 00:55:21,799
Speaker 1: very like a superhero. Let's suppose if Ladisa was like

907
00:55:21,840 --> 00:55:27,239
Speaker 1: a kid insecure and afraid of being judged, afraid of

908
00:55:27,360 --> 00:55:33,200
Speaker 1: not being loved, if she draws superhero, that's Anita, the

909
00:55:33,280 --> 00:55:36,000
Speaker 1: one that goes there talk to people. Nothing bad happens

910
00:55:36,040 --> 00:55:38,680
Speaker 1: to me. I'm the best, I'm the greatest. I do

911
00:55:38,760 --> 00:55:45,480
Speaker 1: whatever I want, And that's how it came to life.

912
00:55:45,719 --> 00:55:48,520
Speaker 1: And when I was becoming a singer, I put this

913
00:55:48,680 --> 00:55:53,200
Speaker 1: character in real life. The problem is that I was

914
00:55:53,239 --> 00:55:57,319
Speaker 1: working so much to fulfill my emptiness, and when I

915
00:55:57,400 --> 00:56:00,359
Speaker 1: was working, I was Anita that I started to leave.

916
00:56:00,480 --> 00:56:04,920
Speaker 1: I was just that and not value what I was

917
00:56:05,560 --> 00:56:09,239
Speaker 1: Esla Lisa because it was insecure, a regular human that

918
00:56:09,280 --> 00:56:13,440
Speaker 1: has regular feelings, that can be said, that can be hurt,

919
00:56:14,040 --> 00:56:18,080
Speaker 1: that can be all of that. So that was when

920
00:56:18,080 --> 00:56:23,680
Speaker 1: my balance went, like this, and it's bad. The other

921
00:56:23,719 --> 00:56:28,120
Speaker 1: fifty percent cannot be cannot feel like you're a shit show.

922
00:56:28,600 --> 00:56:30,440
Speaker 1: You know, it doesn't matter if you have another one

923
00:56:30,520 --> 00:56:35,359
Speaker 1: that comes out and say I am amazing. The other

924
00:56:35,480 --> 00:56:38,360
Speaker 1: fifty percent needs to believe that because the other fifty

925
00:56:38,400 --> 00:56:43,880
Speaker 1: percent was the one that created this one. You know

926
00:56:44,120 --> 00:56:48,239
Speaker 1: for sure, it's the creature and the creator both are amazing.

927
00:56:49,360 --> 00:56:53,680
Speaker 1: So I needed to accept and see qualities in both

928
00:56:53,680 --> 00:56:57,400
Speaker 1: of it and let Anita is just like this crazy

929
00:56:57,440 --> 00:57:01,279
Speaker 1: girl comes there and also comes from a place of

930
00:57:02,840 --> 00:57:06,640
Speaker 1: I was assaulted when I was a teenager, and I

931
00:57:06,680 --> 00:57:09,239
Speaker 1: had to speak about it because I was afraid of

932
00:57:10,280 --> 00:57:14,000
Speaker 1: someone in Brazil that apparently found out I don't know how,

933
00:57:14,600 --> 00:57:18,960
Speaker 1: and I was I didn't want my my seek, my

934
00:57:19,040 --> 00:57:23,320
Speaker 1: deep secret to be spread, not by me, so I

935
00:57:23,400 --> 00:57:27,760
Speaker 1: needed to talk about it. And after that happened when

936
00:57:27,800 --> 00:57:31,160
Speaker 1: I was a teenager, I felt like if I was

937
00:57:32,040 --> 00:57:36,160
Speaker 1: like this, no guy would have would have done that

938
00:57:36,200 --> 00:57:40,200
Speaker 1: to me. So I created Anita from this moment of

939
00:57:40,280 --> 00:57:46,160
Speaker 1: pain and sadness. Right because of that, I cannot feel

940
00:57:46,200 --> 00:57:49,760
Speaker 1: like Letty says, less you know, I'm just a human

941
00:57:49,800 --> 00:57:54,360
Speaker 1: that has the same insecurities and fears, and and the

942
00:57:54,440 --> 00:57:58,480
Speaker 1: feel the feeling like half of me had of Anita

943
00:57:58,520 --> 00:58:03,120
Speaker 1: that oh yeah, that's only good thing that was making

944
00:58:03,160 --> 00:58:09,040
Speaker 1: me really bad. And I also think that maybe that's

945
00:58:09,080 --> 00:58:14,040
Speaker 1: why me as a character Anita was just talking so

946
00:58:14,160 --> 00:58:17,720
Speaker 1: much about sex, about I do this. Sometimes I wasn't

947
00:58:17,760 --> 00:58:21,080
Speaker 1: even doing shit. I wasn't even doing not even ten

948
00:58:21,120 --> 00:58:23,200
Speaker 1: percent of what I was saying. But I needed to

949
00:58:23,240 --> 00:58:26,760
Speaker 1: carry the person or not that persona was really important

950
00:58:27,800 --> 00:58:33,280
Speaker 1: and that that hurt me my other side for because

951
00:58:33,320 --> 00:58:36,120
Speaker 1: we feel like, come on, I'm not doing that's not real,

952
00:58:37,240 --> 00:58:40,400
Speaker 1: that's not real. Why am I doing this? And sometimes

953
00:58:40,440 --> 00:58:43,439
Speaker 1: that would push me away from relationships that I really

954
00:58:43,480 --> 00:58:50,560
Speaker 1: wanted to have, and I just and at the same time,

955
00:58:51,080 --> 00:58:54,840
Speaker 1: this battle would never let me get interested on anybody

956
00:58:54,920 --> 00:58:58,280
Speaker 1: because I was always feeling It's like a subconscious thing.

957
00:58:58,920 --> 00:59:01,240
Speaker 1: I would always feel like, oh yeah, I'm gonna get hurt.

958
00:59:01,280 --> 00:59:04,000
Speaker 1: So I would never be interested on anybody, or I

959
00:59:04,040 --> 00:59:07,720
Speaker 1: would be for three months and then I'll be like, eh, next,

960
00:59:08,640 --> 00:59:13,400
Speaker 1: next battle, next challenge. And that's not healthy. Yeah, you

961
00:59:13,440 --> 00:59:14,520
Speaker 1: know it's different.

962
00:59:14,920 --> 00:59:17,240
Speaker 2: Did you believe in right person, wrong time at the

963
00:59:17,240 --> 00:59:19,440
Speaker 2: time and now you have?

964
00:59:19,520 --> 00:59:24,640
Speaker 1: I believe in that. I believe that when things are

965
00:59:24,840 --> 00:59:27,880
Speaker 1: supposed to happen, they're gonna happen, no matter when. It

966
00:59:27,920 --> 00:59:30,320
Speaker 1: can be now, it can be later, it can come back.

967
00:59:31,280 --> 00:59:35,000
Speaker 1: So I don't believe. I think that's more it. But

968
00:59:35,120 --> 00:59:39,600
Speaker 1: I also believe that the things that society put in

969
00:59:39,680 --> 00:59:45,800
Speaker 1: our head can mess up relations, all types of relations

970
00:59:45,840 --> 00:59:50,840
Speaker 1: for us. For example, I'm a singer, I'm successful, I

971
00:59:50,880 --> 00:59:54,320
Speaker 1: have my money. It's Sarah. It's Sarah. If I decide

972
00:59:54,320 --> 00:59:57,800
Speaker 1: tomorrow to date a regular guy that I met in

973
00:59:59,640 --> 01:00:03,360
Speaker 1: a bar at a bar, people will be like, oh,

974
01:00:03,600 --> 01:00:08,920
Speaker 1: that's all she could get. Oh my god, Anita with

975
01:00:09,040 --> 01:00:14,600
Speaker 1: this nobody. Ugh. If it's a man, a successful singer,

976
01:00:14,760 --> 01:00:18,760
Speaker 1: rich guy meeting a girl in the street that works

977
01:00:18,800 --> 01:00:21,760
Speaker 1: in a store or works in a bar or whatever.

978
01:00:22,600 --> 01:00:25,919
Speaker 1: They'll be like, so nice, did you see Oh my god,

979
01:00:26,000 --> 01:00:29,760
Speaker 1: he met a grocer, was a bartender. Oh my god,

980
01:00:29,800 --> 01:00:32,360
Speaker 1: and he valued her so much. Oh so nice. Is

981
01:00:32,360 --> 01:00:38,320
Speaker 1: so sweet? What a great man. But if it's a famous, successful,

982
01:00:39,160 --> 01:00:42,040
Speaker 1: rich woman, oh my god, that's all she could get

983
01:00:42,040 --> 01:00:47,200
Speaker 1: a bartender. Ugh sucks. Oh no, real man value her.

984
01:00:48,440 --> 01:00:51,439
Speaker 1: It's kind of like you need a man on your

985
01:00:51,520 --> 01:00:55,120
Speaker 1: level or more to decide if you're valuable or not.

986
01:00:56,800 --> 01:01:01,120
Speaker 1: So I think with society and also like for a man,

987
01:01:01,280 --> 01:01:03,720
Speaker 1: if you were with a woman more successful than you,

988
01:01:04,160 --> 01:01:07,360
Speaker 1: they were like, oh my god, you see the woman

989
01:01:07,480 --> 01:01:10,040
Speaker 1: is so much more. And then if it's not this

990
01:01:10,120 --> 01:01:15,520
Speaker 1: guy's self esteem. So I think it's ying and yang

991
01:01:15,680 --> 01:01:19,840
Speaker 1: situation that the society is not understanding that women can

992
01:01:20,320 --> 01:01:23,760
Speaker 1: women can be ying or yeah or you know, yeah, yeah, yeah,

993
01:01:24,240 --> 01:01:27,000
Speaker 1: And I think that mess up with a lot of

994
01:01:27,040 --> 01:01:33,400
Speaker 1: good opportunities of people getting together because of society's statements.

995
01:01:33,640 --> 01:01:36,959
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's I mean, that's a really really interesting point.

996
01:01:37,000 --> 01:01:39,720
Speaker 2: And I think there's so many versions of that. Like

997
01:01:39,760 --> 01:01:42,919
Speaker 2: I've met people that are like, oh, well, I can't

998
01:01:43,320 --> 01:01:46,000
Speaker 2: date that person because if I date someone outside of

999
01:01:46,040 --> 01:01:49,000
Speaker 2: my community, then people will say, oh, he doesn't date

1000
01:01:49,040 --> 01:01:52,680
Speaker 2: people in our community, or vice versa. And I feel

1001
01:01:52,680 --> 01:01:55,200
Speaker 2: like there's so many versions of that and the gender

1002
01:01:55,240 --> 01:01:58,479
Speaker 2: breakdown you just shared. I think it sadly is true,

1003
01:01:58,480 --> 01:02:00,680
Speaker 2: and that's why we can't live up try to live

1004
01:02:00,760 --> 01:02:05,000
Speaker 2: up to society's expectations exactly, We're always going to give away,

1005
01:02:05,120 --> 01:02:08,440
Speaker 2: throw away, amazing life opportunities. Yes, I know, someone was

1006
01:02:08,440 --> 01:02:10,360
Speaker 2: saying to me they can't do a movie because people

1007
01:02:10,360 --> 01:02:12,840
Speaker 2: wouldn't want to see them with a certain person. And

1008
01:02:12,880 --> 01:02:16,560
Speaker 2: so people are giving up huge career opportunities for themselves

1009
01:02:17,080 --> 01:02:19,400
Speaker 2: because they're worried about what people will think or what

1010
01:02:19,440 --> 01:02:22,480
Speaker 2: people will say. And I mean talking about that you

1011
01:02:22,640 --> 01:02:28,200
Speaker 2: recently paid homage to Native Brazilian religions in your new

1012
01:02:28,280 --> 01:02:31,680
Speaker 2: music video. Yeah, and you know, which is deeply important

1013
01:02:31,680 --> 01:02:34,919
Speaker 2: to you, and you have this, I think elegant way

1014
01:02:34,920 --> 01:02:38,200
Speaker 2: of balancing your beliefs and even today I think we

1015
01:02:38,240 --> 01:02:41,200
Speaker 2: can see what a spiritual individual you are. But not

1016
01:02:41,320 --> 01:02:43,560
Speaker 2: everyone was happy about that. I think it was like

1017
01:02:43,560 --> 01:02:46,360
Speaker 2: someone like two hundred thousand people decided to not follow

1018
01:02:46,400 --> 01:02:46,920
Speaker 2: you anymore.

1019
01:02:47,240 --> 01:02:48,120
Speaker 1: Now it's three hundred.

1020
01:02:48,320 --> 01:02:52,040
Speaker 2: That's three hundred thousand, right, Like, walk me through why

1021
01:02:52,080 --> 01:02:55,480
Speaker 2: it was important to you to pay homage to those traditions,

1022
01:02:55,520 --> 01:02:58,400
Speaker 2: why they were so important to you, and then how

1023
01:02:58,400 --> 01:03:01,240
Speaker 2: do you respond and react to the feeling of three

1024
01:03:01,320 --> 01:03:04,200
Speaker 2: hundred thousand people? Now you said, so, I already knew

1025
01:03:04,280 --> 01:03:04,600
Speaker 2: that was.

1026
01:03:04,600 --> 01:03:10,120
Speaker 1: Going to happen, because people are very The intolerance of

1027
01:03:10,320 --> 01:03:14,920
Speaker 1: people of their beliefs and different beliefs is so it's crazy,

1028
01:03:14,960 --> 01:03:20,240
Speaker 1: it's crazy people don't accept from In my opinion, religions

1029
01:03:21,080 --> 01:03:24,680
Speaker 1: are it's like veins that go to a heart. They

1030
01:03:24,800 --> 01:03:28,520
Speaker 1: just are in different spots, but they get to the

1031
01:03:28,560 --> 01:03:33,200
Speaker 1: same place to be a better human, to evolve that

1032
01:03:33,440 --> 01:03:36,280
Speaker 1: what's religion is to me? And I believe in all

1033
01:03:36,320 --> 01:03:38,640
Speaker 1: of them. You can see I go to the Shanti

1034
01:03:38,640 --> 01:03:42,960
Speaker 1: Shahman to the church with my mother and then my

1035
01:03:43,160 --> 01:03:47,960
Speaker 1: Yoruba religion. So my mom is very Catholic. My dad,

1036
01:03:48,280 --> 01:03:53,480
Speaker 1: my dad's family brings with him the Yoruba religion. Right

1037
01:03:53,800 --> 01:04:00,600
Speaker 1: that this religion comes from heritages of souls. Right. Religion

1038
01:04:00,760 --> 01:04:08,960
Speaker 1: was originally in Africa and when the slaves were kidnapped

1039
01:04:09,000 --> 01:04:13,560
Speaker 1: by from their countries to be brought to America South America.

1040
01:04:13,960 --> 01:04:18,320
Speaker 1: They of course had their beliefs and religions, but they

1041
01:04:18,440 --> 01:04:25,800
Speaker 1: were very bad punished if they were exercising their religions

1042
01:04:25,880 --> 01:04:31,360
Speaker 1: in Brazil or whatever. So they would kidnap the slaves,

1043
01:04:32,000 --> 01:04:36,720
Speaker 1: bring to Brazil and tell them, now you're Catholic, we

1044
01:04:36,840 --> 01:04:40,320
Speaker 1: don't care and you cannot exercise your religion here. And

1045
01:04:40,400 --> 01:04:46,400
Speaker 1: if they did, punishment killing, not only punishment in Brazil

1046
01:04:46,480 --> 01:04:52,680
Speaker 1: in two Nowadays people get into the temples Tereiros, the

1047
01:04:52,720 --> 01:04:56,800
Speaker 1: temples of Yoruba, to break and kill in the name

1048
01:04:56,880 --> 01:05:02,720
Speaker 1: of Jesus. I honestly don't believe Jesus. I believe in

1049
01:05:02,800 --> 01:05:07,000
Speaker 1: Jesus so much and God everything, but I don't believe

1050
01:05:07,080 --> 01:05:11,360
Speaker 1: Jesus would come to anybody such a bride soul would say,

1051
01:05:11,880 --> 01:05:15,880
Speaker 1: if you see somebody doing that, kill this person. I can't.

1052
01:05:15,920 --> 01:05:19,560
Speaker 1: I don't believe in that. I think Jesus for me

1053
01:05:19,680 --> 01:05:26,440
Speaker 1: is forgiven. Forgiveness is love, is understanding each other's moment

1054
01:05:26,560 --> 01:05:32,280
Speaker 1: and how the speed of each one to evolve. Right,

1055
01:05:32,320 --> 01:05:36,480
Speaker 1: it's harder for one's, easier for others. It's faster for

1056
01:05:36,600 --> 01:05:40,160
Speaker 1: ones for others, it's not. I believe Jesus and all

1057
01:05:40,240 --> 01:05:46,000
Speaker 1: the angels and all the odishas they're all ready when

1058
01:05:46,040 --> 01:05:50,560
Speaker 1: a soul asks for forgiveness and for help. I believe

1059
01:05:50,560 --> 01:05:54,919
Speaker 1: they're always ready to help. So I don't believe there

1060
01:05:55,000 --> 01:06:01,080
Speaker 1: is a God or Jesus that punishes some for not

1061
01:06:01,280 --> 01:06:08,240
Speaker 1: following the rule. I don't believe in that. And my

1062
01:06:08,320 --> 01:06:12,760
Speaker 1: religion believes in the forces of nature yorubam in Brazil

1063
01:06:12,800 --> 01:06:18,360
Speaker 1: is called condomble. We believe in there are entities of

1064
01:06:18,480 --> 01:06:23,520
Speaker 1: different like the waterfall, the fire, the river, the forest,

1065
01:06:24,320 --> 01:06:29,320
Speaker 1: the rain, the sea, so that's what we believe. The

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01:06:29,360 --> 01:06:33,720
Speaker 1: sea yeamans from the sea. The fire is Yansa, the

1067
01:06:33,800 --> 01:06:38,160
Speaker 1: waterfalls zoshume, the forest is Osha sea. So we believe

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01:06:38,200 --> 01:06:41,960
Speaker 1: in these things and the nature energies because of the

1069
01:06:41,960 --> 01:06:46,600
Speaker 1: fact that a lot of people can impersonate or feel

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01:06:46,640 --> 01:06:49,880
Speaker 1: the energy and their bodies. They say it's the demon,

1071
01:06:50,880 --> 01:06:53,280
Speaker 1: but you can't just say things without going there and

1072
01:06:53,320 --> 01:06:56,240
Speaker 1: searching for real getting closed and understanding. Okay, let me

1073
01:06:56,280 --> 01:06:59,880
Speaker 1: see what is this? And I feel like when I

1074
01:07:00,040 --> 01:07:02,080
Speaker 1: in my religion and I follow it. Since I'm a kid,

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01:07:02,120 --> 01:07:06,960
Speaker 1: because of my dad, I never felt bad. I always

1076
01:07:06,960 --> 01:07:12,680
Speaker 1: felt like this piece and I can't believe the evil

1077
01:07:13,760 --> 01:07:17,640
Speaker 1: force can just make you feel like so connected to

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01:07:17,800 --> 01:07:23,080
Speaker 1: God and so good, you know, and avoiding things that

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01:07:23,120 --> 01:07:27,280
Speaker 1: are not good for you. You know. When we're there,

1080
01:07:27,320 --> 01:07:32,320
Speaker 1: we cannot drink alcohol, We cannot you know, it's it's clean,

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01:07:32,400 --> 01:07:35,840
Speaker 1: it's beautiful. We don't believe in the devil. We don't

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01:07:35,840 --> 01:07:38,320
Speaker 1: believe there is a devil. There is a demon. We

1083
01:07:38,440 --> 01:07:41,800
Speaker 1: believe in humans that can get to a very very

1084
01:07:41,960 --> 01:07:46,280
Speaker 1: low frequency, a very dark place where their souls and

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01:07:46,360 --> 01:07:49,600
Speaker 1: then they can become evil and mean. So I don't

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01:07:49,600 --> 01:07:52,360
Speaker 1: want to pass the responsibility. I don't want to just say, oh,

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01:07:52,520 --> 01:07:54,880
Speaker 1: there is the devil, and the devil is gonna make

1088
01:07:54,960 --> 01:07:58,880
Speaker 1: me be mean. No, we're all humans and we have

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01:07:59,040 --> 01:08:02,560
Speaker 1: the we have the dark side inside of us, and

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01:08:02,600 --> 01:08:05,880
Speaker 1: if we let it go, we're gonna become that. We

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01:08:05,920 --> 01:08:10,720
Speaker 1: cannot find another another person to blame. Oh no, I

1092
01:08:10,760 --> 01:08:15,440
Speaker 1: did that because the devil. No, you let's take responsibility,

1093
01:08:16,160 --> 01:08:18,360
Speaker 1: you know. And so I don't believe my religion. We

1094
01:08:18,360 --> 01:08:21,400
Speaker 1: don't believe there is the demon and God. There is God.

1095
01:08:21,439 --> 01:08:25,960
Speaker 1: There is like beautiful light spirits, but there is like

1096
01:08:26,080 --> 01:08:30,360
Speaker 1: people souls that can get to a dark place, and

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01:08:30,400 --> 01:08:33,679
Speaker 1: it's our responsibility to decide if we want to go there,

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01:08:33,920 --> 01:08:36,120
Speaker 1: or if we want to go there, not because we

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01:08:36,200 --> 01:08:40,320
Speaker 1: are scared of the law and the justice of a

1100
01:08:40,560 --> 01:08:45,479
Speaker 1: punishing God. Because we want to be good. I want

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01:08:45,479 --> 01:08:47,559
Speaker 1: to be good because I want to feel good. I

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01:08:47,600 --> 01:08:50,280
Speaker 1: want to be a good person, not because I'm scared

1103
01:08:50,280 --> 01:08:52,280
Speaker 1: if I die. Oh my god, they're gonna come and

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01:08:52,400 --> 01:08:52,720
Speaker 1: kill me.

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01:08:53,520 --> 01:08:57,120
Speaker 2: No, you know, yeah, And it's it seems like that

1106
01:08:58,520 --> 01:09:02,880
Speaker 2: because you knew that you simply trying to share and

1107
01:09:02,920 --> 01:09:06,000
Speaker 2: express your values and your beliefs and your homage, and

1108
01:09:06,040 --> 01:09:09,200
Speaker 2: you were already disconnected from the fact that people may

1109
01:09:09,240 --> 01:09:10,880
Speaker 2: have a negative viewpoint towards it.

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01:09:11,520 --> 01:09:14,920
Speaker 1: Yes, I didn't. I actually did not care because I

1111
01:09:15,000 --> 01:09:18,960
Speaker 1: think whoever wants to follow Nowadays, I chose this, whoever

1112
01:09:19,000 --> 01:09:22,360
Speaker 1: wants to follow me follows me. If it's ten people,

1113
01:09:22,560 --> 01:09:25,960
Speaker 1: if it's a million, amazing, I'll be happy with ten.

1114
01:09:26,120 --> 01:09:28,719
Speaker 1: I will be happy with a million. I don't care.

1115
01:09:29,840 --> 01:09:33,840
Speaker 1: But I just felt like in Brazil it's so much prejudice.

1116
01:09:33,880 --> 01:09:36,160
Speaker 1: I feel like I like to speak up about a

1117
01:09:36,200 --> 01:09:38,639
Speaker 1: lot of things in my country, not only my country,

1118
01:09:38,680 --> 01:09:42,400
Speaker 1: but whatever. I feel like I have knowledge enough to

1119
01:09:42,479 --> 01:09:47,160
Speaker 1: speak of, I do it. Or I started studying and

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01:09:47,200 --> 01:09:50,679
Speaker 1: then after some months years. I'm going to speak about

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01:09:50,680 --> 01:09:53,639
Speaker 1: it when I feel like I know enough. It has

1122
01:09:53,680 --> 01:09:57,120
Speaker 1: to be a reason why we get famous, or we

1123
01:09:57,160 --> 01:10:00,559
Speaker 1: get recognized, or we get people to follow, so us

1124
01:10:01,160 --> 01:10:05,040
Speaker 1: we have to use it for something. I can't think like, Okay,

1125
01:10:05,120 --> 01:10:10,000
Speaker 1: God gave me sixty five million people to be looking

1126
01:10:10,040 --> 01:10:12,960
Speaker 1: at what I'm doing, and I'm just gonna tell them

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01:10:13,000 --> 01:10:17,120
Speaker 1: by this, buy that, use this, use that, and make

1128
01:10:17,200 --> 01:10:21,240
Speaker 1: money and be rich. I can't. I feel like I

1129
01:10:21,360 --> 01:10:24,920
Speaker 1: need to give back good things for people to have

1130
01:10:24,960 --> 01:10:28,200
Speaker 1: the same tools that I have to be better humans,

1131
01:10:28,680 --> 01:10:31,320
Speaker 1: to be good, and if they feel like they struggle

1132
01:10:31,320 --> 01:10:34,599
Speaker 1: in something, I want to If I have the power

1133
01:10:34,800 --> 01:10:37,519
Speaker 1: or the knowledge to send something good, I want to

1134
01:10:37,560 --> 01:10:43,280
Speaker 1: do it. So I always felt this mission, this responsibility

1135
01:10:43,360 --> 01:10:45,639
Speaker 1: in me, and I don't judge who don't. I feel

1136
01:10:45,720 --> 01:10:50,679
Speaker 1: like each person has your own nose. But because when

1137
01:10:50,680 --> 01:10:53,680
Speaker 1: you do this, that's what happens. You lose people, you

1138
01:10:53,720 --> 01:10:56,960
Speaker 1: get criticized, and some people cannot take it. And I

1139
01:10:57,080 --> 01:10:59,439
Speaker 1: understand that, so I don't judge. I can take it

1140
01:10:59,439 --> 01:11:02,519
Speaker 1: because I don't. If what damn, I couldn't care less.

1141
01:11:03,360 --> 01:11:05,680
Speaker 1: So I do it because I feel like a lot

1142
01:11:05,720 --> 01:11:09,840
Speaker 1: of people are in need of these things because I

1143
01:11:09,880 --> 01:11:13,120
Speaker 1: know how much my religion helped me when I was struggling,

1144
01:11:13,479 --> 01:11:15,400
Speaker 1: when I feel like I didn't want to live life

1145
01:11:15,439 --> 01:11:19,200
Speaker 1: anymore because it was not interesting, because I was not lovable.

1146
01:11:19,840 --> 01:11:24,120
Speaker 1: I know how much the religion taught me that I

1147
01:11:24,160 --> 01:11:28,720
Speaker 1: am part of the nature. I belong to this. So

1148
01:11:29,160 --> 01:11:31,680
Speaker 1: I want more people to feel that if you want

1149
01:11:31,720 --> 01:11:35,040
Speaker 1: to feel great, if you don't, it's okay, you can

1150
01:11:35,120 --> 01:11:35,880
Speaker 1: do you.

1151
01:11:35,760 --> 01:11:38,880
Speaker 2: Know, yeah, yeah, It's one of the things I've been

1152
01:11:38,880 --> 01:11:42,360
Speaker 2: thinking about lately is when you get into the top

1153
01:11:42,439 --> 01:11:46,760
Speaker 2: one percent of any industry or any place, you get

1154
01:11:46,800 --> 01:11:49,599
Speaker 2: a lot of one percent experiences. So some of those

1155
01:11:49,600 --> 01:11:53,599
Speaker 2: are these really tough experiences of lots of people disagreeing

1156
01:11:53,640 --> 01:11:56,200
Speaker 2: with you, lots of people may not like what you're doing,

1157
01:11:56,240 --> 01:11:58,720
Speaker 2: the choices that you make. And then at the same time,

1158
01:11:58,760 --> 01:12:01,439
Speaker 2: which is what you happen happen do you recently? You

1159
01:12:01,560 --> 01:12:04,920
Speaker 2: recently joined Madonna on a tour and did this most

1160
01:12:05,560 --> 01:12:08,080
Speaker 2: historic event of I think one point six million people,

1161
01:12:08,120 --> 01:12:12,360
Speaker 2: Like I think that's the largest ever audience at a concert,

1162
01:12:12,600 --> 01:12:14,960
Speaker 2: And it's almost like you go from having this experience

1163
01:12:15,000 --> 01:12:17,160
Speaker 2: of you know, having hundreds of thousands of people unfollow

1164
01:12:17,240 --> 01:12:20,439
Speaker 2: you to then having these moments where you're a part

1165
01:12:20,439 --> 01:12:22,559
Speaker 2: of history. I mean, what did that feel like? What

1166
01:12:22,640 --> 01:12:23,720
Speaker 2: was that experience? Like?

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01:12:24,040 --> 01:12:27,000
Speaker 1: It was great. In Brazil, they do these concerts in

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01:12:27,120 --> 01:12:29,720
Speaker 1: Copacabana Beach. I did once. It was but it was

1169
01:12:29,760 --> 01:12:32,639
Speaker 1: New Year's Eve, so it was five million people. Oh okay,

1170
01:12:33,120 --> 01:12:35,640
Speaker 1: you've done a No, but it's because it was New

1171
01:12:35,720 --> 01:12:38,559
Speaker 1: Year's Eve. Come on, Madonna, was it was there? No,

1172
01:12:39,160 --> 01:12:41,760
Speaker 1: it was her. She was the event was and she

1173
01:12:41,880 --> 01:12:46,520
Speaker 1: got a million and six hundred thousand people. It was crazy.

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01:12:47,120 --> 01:12:49,479
Speaker 1: But a lot of people in Brazil do that in

1175
01:12:49,600 --> 01:12:53,680
Speaker 1: New Year's Eve at the beach and it's amazing. But

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01:12:53,840 --> 01:12:59,400
Speaker 1: also her concert had a lot of conservatives saying like,

1177
01:12:59,520 --> 01:13:03,840
Speaker 1: oh my god, this is so oh the devil, the

1178
01:13:04,320 --> 01:13:09,920
Speaker 1: ugh like she was a woman that a dedicated her

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01:13:10,000 --> 01:13:15,280
Speaker 1: life to fight for people for their sexualities, for the

1180
01:13:15,479 --> 01:13:20,080
Speaker 1: LGBTQ community, for women to be free to feel pleasure

1181
01:13:20,840 --> 01:13:24,599
Speaker 1: because just men could feel pleasure, and she fought for

1182
01:13:24,680 --> 01:13:27,759
Speaker 1: that and you have to be really brave to face

1183
01:13:28,120 --> 01:13:31,240
Speaker 1: and in that time when she started, it was crazy

1184
01:13:31,920 --> 01:13:34,960
Speaker 1: cops coming to her concert and all the things that

1185
01:13:35,040 --> 01:13:41,560
Speaker 1: she faced too, because she knew she was bringing acceptance

1186
01:13:41,640 --> 01:13:43,880
Speaker 1: to people that wanted to come out, that wanted to

1187
01:13:43,880 --> 01:13:47,240
Speaker 1: be proud of being gay, that wanted to be proud

1188
01:13:47,280 --> 01:13:51,280
Speaker 1: of being lesbian, of having feeling pleasure as a woman.

1189
01:13:52,680 --> 01:13:55,720
Speaker 1: So to me, that was really important. That was a

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01:13:55,760 --> 01:14:01,000
Speaker 1: woman celebrating, like with a million gays, a million and

1191
01:14:01,120 --> 01:14:03,960
Speaker 1: something gays at the beach that they were free to

1192
01:14:04,000 --> 01:14:09,160
Speaker 1: be gays. That was amazing, you know, not only gays,

1193
01:14:09,160 --> 01:14:16,840
Speaker 1: but I mean families accepting gays, lesbians, trends. It was

1194
01:14:16,880 --> 01:14:20,519
Speaker 1: so important. But a lot of conservatives were like, oh,

1195
01:14:20,560 --> 01:14:24,080
Speaker 1: this is the devil, this is this is that. And

1196
01:14:24,120 --> 01:14:27,760
Speaker 1: I just feel like we have the choice of doing

1197
01:14:27,800 --> 01:14:30,519
Speaker 1: whatever we want, and we don't need to judge our

1198
01:14:30,640 --> 01:14:34,960
Speaker 1: We're not judges of anything. Before judging another person, we

1199
01:14:35,080 --> 01:14:40,880
Speaker 1: got to see our own situations. So I just don't

1200
01:14:40,880 --> 01:14:42,320
Speaker 1: feel if you don't want to do it, you can

1201
01:14:42,400 --> 01:14:45,439
Speaker 1: just go do your thing and let people do what

1202
01:14:45,479 --> 01:14:49,599
Speaker 1: they want. You know, we're not judges here. We're all

1203
01:14:49,840 --> 01:14:56,479
Speaker 1: souls looking for evolution. And I was so happy that

1204
01:14:56,520 --> 01:14:59,519
Speaker 1: she she invited me. I also fight for so many

1205
01:14:59,560 --> 01:15:01,559
Speaker 1: things that I've believe in my country, you know, and

1206
01:15:01,600 --> 01:15:03,479
Speaker 1: I and I try to help as much as I

1207
01:15:03,520 --> 01:15:10,519
Speaker 1: can nowadays, mostly indigenous and indigenous causes, because the way

1208
01:15:10,640 --> 01:15:14,960
Speaker 1: politicians are killing the Amazon, it's crazy. The way they're

1209
01:15:15,000 --> 01:15:18,519
Speaker 1: just not giving damn to the to the Amazon, to

1210
01:15:18,600 --> 01:15:21,519
Speaker 1: the environment, it's insane. So I like to fight for

1211
01:15:21,600 --> 01:15:26,000
Speaker 1: that because nature has no voice. Indigeners are not on

1212
01:15:26,040 --> 01:15:30,160
Speaker 1: social media, they're not influencers. They're there. There are very

1213
01:15:30,160 --> 01:15:35,640
Speaker 1: good influencers, but still don't have voices that have Indigenous origins.

1214
01:15:36,560 --> 01:15:40,000
Speaker 1: So I like to do my best. And I was

1215
01:15:40,040 --> 01:15:42,400
Speaker 1: just so happy to be there. I was so happy

1216
01:15:42,400 --> 01:15:43,200
Speaker 1: that she invited me.

1217
01:15:43,560 --> 01:15:45,160
Speaker 2: How did you invite? How did you reach out? How

1218
01:15:45,200 --> 01:15:46,000
Speaker 2: did that come around?

1219
01:15:46,280 --> 01:15:49,679
Speaker 1: We had a song together on her album some years ago,

1220
01:15:49,720 --> 01:15:54,080
Speaker 1: a funk song on her album, and uh, then when

1221
01:15:54,120 --> 01:15:56,719
Speaker 1: she came to Brazil, the first thing she said, okay,

1222
01:15:57,720 --> 01:16:01,600
Speaker 1: we got to do this, and I actually couldn't. And

1223
01:16:01,640 --> 01:16:03,760
Speaker 1: then I was like moving so many things around so

1224
01:16:03,840 --> 01:16:06,320
Speaker 1: I could be there. It was so important. And she

1225
01:16:06,400 --> 01:16:10,800
Speaker 1: also invited Pablo Guitar, which is a drag queen, very good,

1226
01:16:10,960 --> 01:16:14,960
Speaker 1: great singer of Brazil, very successful, famous drag queen of Brazil.

1227
01:16:15,200 --> 01:16:18,080
Speaker 2: That's amazing. I mean, you know when I'm speaking to

1228
01:16:18,120 --> 01:16:21,000
Speaker 2: you today and I think when you look at someone

1229
01:16:21,080 --> 01:16:25,920
Speaker 2: like yourself. It's very easy to forget the challenges and

1230
01:16:26,000 --> 01:16:28,920
Speaker 2: the hardships that someone's had on the way up. You know,

1231
01:16:28,920 --> 01:16:30,880
Speaker 2: when you see someone successful, I think a lot of

1232
01:16:30,920 --> 01:16:33,640
Speaker 2: the time we even if we knew them on the

1233
01:16:33,680 --> 01:16:36,519
Speaker 2: way up, we start believing people were an overnight success.

1234
01:16:36,560 --> 01:16:39,200
Speaker 2: And that's when you were saying earlier that you know,

1235
01:16:39,240 --> 01:16:41,000
Speaker 2: then we start to write people off, we find the

1236
01:16:41,040 --> 01:16:45,600
Speaker 2: next person whatever. But you've talked a lot about, you know,

1237
01:16:45,720 --> 01:16:48,679
Speaker 2: even like looking at it from a forward thinking perspective,

1238
01:16:48,720 --> 01:16:50,639
Speaker 2: you talked about just challenges you had with your record

1239
01:16:50,680 --> 01:16:53,040
Speaker 2: label and then finding the right label, Like, could you

1240
01:16:53,080 --> 01:16:55,280
Speaker 2: walk us through some of the key challenges you've had

1241
01:16:55,320 --> 01:16:58,960
Speaker 2: in even breaking out, because I think the odds of

1242
01:16:59,280 --> 01:17:03,160
Speaker 2: someone like yourself from the Villas who does this is

1243
01:17:03,200 --> 01:17:05,880
Speaker 2: so rare and difficult, and you know, I mean, I

1244
01:17:05,880 --> 01:17:08,080
Speaker 2: don't know what the odds are, but I'm guessing it's like,

1245
01:17:08,560 --> 01:17:13,000
Speaker 2: you know, one in whatever, walk us through some of

1246
01:17:13,040 --> 01:17:16,120
Speaker 2: those key challenges that you think you've had to break

1247
01:17:16,120 --> 01:17:18,400
Speaker 2: through on the way up, not now, but the ones

1248
01:17:18,439 --> 01:17:20,120
Speaker 2: that you've had on that journey. And maybe the record

1249
01:17:20,200 --> 01:17:22,320
Speaker 2: label one is a good one to start with.

1250
01:17:22,680 --> 01:17:25,920
Speaker 1: I think, No, I think the first one was in

1251
01:17:25,960 --> 01:17:29,799
Speaker 1: my country because I come from the favelas, from the ghetto,

1252
01:17:29,920 --> 01:17:33,880
Speaker 1: from the communities, and the rhythm that we do there's funk,

1253
01:17:34,280 --> 01:17:36,719
Speaker 1: which would be like the hip hop in the nineties

1254
01:17:36,760 --> 01:17:39,240
Speaker 1: here in the US. People getting arrested for doing it,

1255
01:17:40,200 --> 01:17:43,639
Speaker 1: people suffering a lot of prejudice. So that was the

1256
01:17:43,680 --> 01:17:46,200
Speaker 1: first one that I was like, Wow, people don't want

1257
01:17:46,200 --> 01:17:48,800
Speaker 1: me in restaurants, people don't want me in magazines, people

1258
01:17:48,800 --> 01:17:51,320
Speaker 1: don't want me anywhere. They think I'm the shit show

1259
01:17:51,920 --> 01:17:54,720
Speaker 1: because I come from this environment, you know, from this

1260
01:17:55,120 --> 01:17:59,120
Speaker 1: that's my origin. So that was like the first one

1261
01:17:59,200 --> 01:18:03,160
Speaker 1: for me to fight against that. And just like I

1262
01:18:03,520 --> 01:18:07,120
Speaker 1: couldn't even like find a management. I was my own

1263
01:18:07,160 --> 01:18:11,200
Speaker 1: manager for so many years, you know, I just I

1264
01:18:11,240 --> 01:18:13,479
Speaker 1: would be the one going to the brands trying to

1265
01:18:13,520 --> 01:18:17,320
Speaker 1: convince them to support me, or to the radios to

1266
01:18:17,400 --> 01:18:22,320
Speaker 1: negotiate my songs. Yeah, yes, me and my brother to

1267
01:18:22,360 --> 01:18:26,000
Speaker 1: negotiate like concerts and everything like that. It was just

1268
01:18:26,160 --> 01:18:30,439
Speaker 1: me and my brother for so many years. And then

1269
01:18:30,880 --> 01:18:35,479
Speaker 1: after that, I think like coming out and convincing label,

1270
01:18:35,560 --> 01:18:40,320
Speaker 1: coming out of Brazil, convincing label team everybody that this

1271
01:18:40,479 --> 01:18:44,960
Speaker 1: could be something, you know, because the last time we

1272
01:18:45,000 --> 01:18:49,960
Speaker 1: had a successful artist was fifty years ago with tom

1273
01:18:50,040 --> 01:18:54,640
Speaker 1: Jo being with a girl from Ipanema and Venicos de

1274
01:18:54,720 --> 01:19:00,840
Speaker 1: Maris and a woman. It was in the with Carme

1275
01:19:00,880 --> 01:19:07,080
Speaker 1: and Miranda. So they were like, no, that doesn't that

1276
01:19:07,120 --> 01:19:10,120
Speaker 1: doesn't happen Brazilians. No, because when you say like a

1277
01:19:10,200 --> 01:19:13,680
Speaker 1: Latin singer, Brazil is a Latin country, but we speak Portuguese,

1278
01:19:13,840 --> 01:19:17,559
Speaker 1: so it's very different. There is another barrier because we

1279
01:19:17,600 --> 01:19:21,200
Speaker 1: speak Portuguese not Spanish. So the songs that go on

1280
01:19:21,560 --> 01:19:25,400
Speaker 1: in a Spanish market don't happen in Brazil. Whatever happens

1281
01:19:25,400 --> 01:19:28,720
Speaker 1: in Brazil don't happen in a Spanish market. So for

1282
01:19:28,760 --> 01:19:33,080
Speaker 1: me to convince the label or the team, my own team,

1283
01:19:33,120 --> 01:19:37,439
Speaker 1: my own brother, that this would work was really hard.

1284
01:19:38,479 --> 01:19:42,360
Speaker 1: He was like, wow, you finally when we broke the

1285
01:19:42,400 --> 01:19:45,479
Speaker 1: presidents here, you want to go to another thing. We

1286
01:19:45,600 --> 01:19:48,880
Speaker 1: didn't even take time to rest. But again my amptiness

1287
01:19:48,960 --> 01:19:51,880
Speaker 1: was like, no, where are you gonna get it? Where

1288
01:19:51,920 --> 01:19:56,800
Speaker 1: you gonna conquer the world? And I just wanted to.

1289
01:19:57,720 --> 01:20:01,280
Speaker 1: I like to try new things. I like to challenge myself.

1290
01:20:01,600 --> 01:20:04,680
Speaker 1: You know, I get bored very easily, you know, not

1291
01:20:04,760 --> 01:20:08,000
Speaker 1: only of men. Now he's going to finish for God's sake,

1292
01:20:09,840 --> 01:20:13,880
Speaker 1: and I was changing. That's changing thanks to Jesus, thanks

1293
01:20:13,920 --> 01:20:19,240
Speaker 1: to the spiritual journey. There's also it right because people

1294
01:20:19,320 --> 01:20:22,000
Speaker 1: think women when it's when a woman doesn't have a

1295
01:20:22,040 --> 01:20:24,400
Speaker 1: relationship for many years because a man didn't want it.

1296
01:20:24,439 --> 01:20:26,720
Speaker 1: No babies, because I didn't want it. Let's see what

1297
01:20:26,760 --> 01:20:30,480
Speaker 1: happens from that one. But it was a big challenge,

1298
01:20:30,520 --> 01:20:35,719
Speaker 1: and my brother was always like, oh my god, okay,

1299
01:20:35,840 --> 01:20:38,840
Speaker 1: let's go. He would go just to be with me,

1300
01:20:38,960 --> 01:20:43,760
Speaker 1: to protect me. But nobody else they would just be like,

1301
01:20:43,880 --> 01:20:46,880
Speaker 1: I am not going with this girl. She's crazy, you know.

1302
01:20:46,960 --> 01:20:50,400
Speaker 1: And I would put my own money. I would just do,

1303
01:20:50,520 --> 01:20:54,040
Speaker 1: you know, just from what I believe and go for it.

1304
01:20:54,560 --> 01:20:56,960
Speaker 1: I just think the difference was that before I was

1305
01:20:57,120 --> 01:21:00,719
Speaker 1: very anxious and pressured and nervous about it, and always

1306
01:21:00,760 --> 01:21:03,600
Speaker 1: like with this feeling of like, no, I need to

1307
01:21:03,600 --> 01:21:05,640
Speaker 1: get it, I need to get it. Nowadays, I'm like,

1308
01:21:06,520 --> 01:21:10,280
Speaker 1: it's okay, whatever happens happens. But this was a big one.

1309
01:21:11,160 --> 01:21:14,240
Speaker 1: And now with and then and then It's funny because

1310
01:21:14,280 --> 01:21:17,360
Speaker 1: when I started to like bring people from a Spanish

1311
01:21:17,360 --> 01:21:21,639
Speaker 1: market to Brazil and then come out with my stuff

1312
01:21:21,800 --> 01:21:24,599
Speaker 1: to outside and things started to go right and go well.

1313
01:21:25,240 --> 01:21:27,960
Speaker 1: Then everyone wants to figure out how to do it.

1314
01:21:28,680 --> 01:21:33,360
Speaker 1: Everyone wants to do it too, and I'm like okay,

1315
01:21:33,840 --> 01:21:37,680
Speaker 1: and then two nowadays, like my album was, it's not

1316
01:21:37,720 --> 01:21:40,120
Speaker 1: an easy album to put out. It's a funk, a

1317
01:21:40,160 --> 01:21:43,200
Speaker 1: Brazilian funk album. People don't do Brazilian funk. There's no

1318
01:21:43,320 --> 01:21:46,680
Speaker 1: playlist to add my songs because it's not it's not

1319
01:21:46,720 --> 01:21:50,760
Speaker 1: in Portuguese, so the Brazilian funk playlist it's not in Portuguese.

1320
01:21:51,000 --> 01:21:55,400
Speaker 1: Here outside, there's no playlist of Front of Funk in English,

1321
01:21:55,920 --> 01:22:02,280
Speaker 1: in Spanish neither. So basically doing like something. Let's see

1322
01:22:02,280 --> 01:22:05,639
Speaker 1: if everyone joins this crazy. I'm sure they will, Let's

1323
01:22:05,640 --> 01:22:08,640
Speaker 1: see what happens. The only reason I could put this

1324
01:22:08,680 --> 01:22:12,360
Speaker 1: album out now is because I was super sick. I

1325
01:22:12,400 --> 01:22:15,200
Speaker 1: thought I was going to die, remember, and I was like,

1326
01:22:15,680 --> 01:22:18,080
Speaker 1: you know what I'm gonna because I've been trying to

1327
01:22:18,120 --> 01:22:21,479
Speaker 1: did this album for so long, but everyone was always like, no,

1328
01:22:22,160 --> 01:22:26,320
Speaker 1: it's it's a fail. This album has no place to

1329
01:22:26,400 --> 01:22:30,400
Speaker 1: put and you see the Okay, this is country, this

1330
01:22:30,439 --> 01:22:33,320
Speaker 1: is pop, this is your album. There's nothing where it

1331
01:22:33,360 --> 01:22:35,040
Speaker 1: is going to be. Is just going to hang around

1332
01:22:36,280 --> 01:22:40,680
Speaker 1: and It took me a very like spiritual place of

1333
01:22:40,760 --> 01:22:43,679
Speaker 1: detachment to be like, Okay, I'm gonna put out whatever

1334
01:22:43,720 --> 01:22:46,240
Speaker 1: happens happens. So I was sick. I thought I was

1335
01:22:46,280 --> 01:22:48,439
Speaker 1: going to die. I was like, I'm just gonna do

1336
01:22:48,479 --> 01:22:51,360
Speaker 1: an album where I like an album that I would

1337
01:22:51,400 --> 01:22:53,280
Speaker 1: do if I didn't care about any of these things

1338
01:22:53,360 --> 01:22:57,280
Speaker 1: because I'm dying, so whatever. So I did this album

1339
01:22:57,400 --> 01:23:00,679
Speaker 1: exactly like that, and it just got bad. You got better,

1340
01:23:00,800 --> 01:23:05,120
Speaker 1: didn't die, and the album was out. And it's funny

1341
01:23:05,160 --> 01:23:08,559
Speaker 1: because still has a lot of like challenges with this

1342
01:23:08,680 --> 01:23:13,640
Speaker 1: album because it doesn't have a place to sit. But

1343
01:23:13,760 --> 01:23:17,559
Speaker 1: I honestly don't care. I'm so proud. I love the album.

1344
01:23:17,600 --> 01:23:20,160
Speaker 1: I can't stop listening to it. And most of my

1345
01:23:20,240 --> 01:23:23,320
Speaker 1: albums I would do to try to get streams and

1346
01:23:23,920 --> 01:23:26,920
Speaker 1: I wouldn't listen to it, but this, I'm like so

1347
01:23:27,040 --> 01:23:30,559
Speaker 1: proud of it. I don't like touring because it's so

1348
01:23:30,760 --> 01:23:33,719
Speaker 1: for me. It's such a struggle to be flying from

1349
01:23:33,720 --> 01:23:37,920
Speaker 1: place to place with no home, being in hotels. I

1350
01:23:38,000 --> 01:23:40,479
Speaker 1: carry it back just of like cleansing to the hotels

1351
01:23:40,479 --> 01:23:43,000
Speaker 1: I get there. I have a sage, I have candles,

1352
01:23:43,240 --> 01:23:45,840
Speaker 1: I put mantras in the rooms very loud and be like,

1353
01:23:45,880 --> 01:23:49,599
Speaker 1: oh clean this Jesus, come clean this beadroom, pass bad

1354
01:23:50,520 --> 01:23:55,479
Speaker 1: put spraise. But for me, it's like a big pressure

1355
01:23:55,520 --> 01:23:58,000
Speaker 1: to be flying from city to city. I called all

1356
01:23:58,080 --> 01:24:01,880
Speaker 1: my priests and shamans and I was like, help me

1357
01:24:01,960 --> 01:24:04,160
Speaker 1: in the store because now I love this album so much,

1358
01:24:04,200 --> 01:24:06,320
Speaker 1: and I'm like, I want to do a tour because

1359
01:24:06,360 --> 01:24:08,560
Speaker 1: I like dancing to this album. I like singing it.

1360
01:24:09,000 --> 01:24:09,320
Speaker 2: Let's go.

1361
01:24:09,920 --> 01:24:13,880
Speaker 1: So we're doing it and tomorrow tonight is my second,

1362
01:24:14,720 --> 01:24:18,320
Speaker 1: my third concert from the store and I'm doing good.

1363
01:24:18,360 --> 01:24:20,920
Speaker 1: But I told them help me here because I need

1364
01:24:21,000 --> 01:24:24,559
Speaker 1: all this spiritual connection for me to not go crazy

1365
01:24:24,600 --> 01:24:27,240
Speaker 1: because it's a lot of hotels, jumping from place to place.

1366
01:24:27,360 --> 01:24:31,919
Speaker 1: You know, it's not healthy mentally. It's important the routine

1367
01:24:32,000 --> 01:24:37,240
Speaker 1: and to have like grounding core it's important. So for me,

1368
01:24:37,400 --> 01:24:42,240
Speaker 1: I'm like, Okay, I I need support, spiritual support. But

1369
01:24:42,360 --> 01:24:44,120
Speaker 1: I love this album so much that I was like,

1370
01:24:44,920 --> 01:24:46,519
Speaker 1: I'm gonna do it because I have so much fun

1371
01:24:46,560 --> 01:24:50,840
Speaker 1: on stage doing it. If I'm singing for two thousand people,

1372
01:24:51,040 --> 01:24:57,080
Speaker 1: three thousand people, or forty or fifty, it's the same.

1373
01:24:57,200 --> 01:24:58,439
Speaker 1: I just feel really happy.

1374
01:24:58,760 --> 01:25:01,599
Speaker 2: I know you talked about the chat nge of changing

1375
01:25:01,680 --> 01:25:04,320
Speaker 2: record labels, and you talked about this pain point of

1376
01:25:04,520 --> 01:25:07,000
Speaker 2: just like I think at one point you said like

1377
01:25:07,040 --> 01:25:09,640
Speaker 2: you would literally give all your organs away if you know,

1378
01:25:09,680 --> 01:25:11,479
Speaker 2: if you could get out of it, walk us through

1379
01:25:11,560 --> 01:25:14,639
Speaker 2: those kind of decisions, because I feel like if you're

1380
01:25:14,640 --> 01:25:18,080
Speaker 2: not in the music industry, we don't actually understand what's

1381
01:25:18,200 --> 01:25:21,479
Speaker 2: controlling what and how things interlink, and we don't know

1382
01:25:21,640 --> 01:25:24,280
Speaker 2: what artists are going through. So from that perspective, if

1383
01:25:24,280 --> 01:25:26,400
Speaker 2: you could tell us about that transition.

1384
01:25:26,800 --> 01:25:31,160
Speaker 1: So about record label I just think I do think

1385
01:25:31,240 --> 01:25:33,760
Speaker 1: nowadays that I wasn't that mature on the way I

1386
01:25:33,880 --> 01:25:36,000
Speaker 1: did it. But maybe if I didn't do that way,

1387
01:25:36,080 --> 01:25:38,400
Speaker 1: I wasn't be in the position that I am right now.

1388
01:25:38,600 --> 01:25:40,240
Speaker 1: So we would never know it is what it is.

1389
01:25:40,320 --> 01:25:42,599
Speaker 1: I will never be like, oh oh my god, I'd

1390
01:25:42,640 --> 01:25:46,000
Speaker 1: never regret things, because I think things happen for a reason.

1391
01:25:46,760 --> 01:25:50,800
Speaker 1: It's just I really think the way things happen and

1392
01:25:50,880 --> 01:25:56,000
Speaker 1: business should change a little bit, you know, because when

1393
01:25:56,080 --> 01:26:01,160
Speaker 1: we are when we were chasing something, we don't know

1394
01:26:01,280 --> 01:26:07,120
Speaker 1: what's there, right, so we just we go through deals

1395
01:26:07,200 --> 01:26:11,960
Speaker 1: and situations not knowing what's the reality when we get there.

1396
01:26:13,600 --> 01:26:17,640
Speaker 1: And that's a very tricky point because if I'm on

1397
01:26:17,720 --> 01:26:20,880
Speaker 1: this side and I know what's the reality, why would

1398
01:26:20,920 --> 01:26:23,479
Speaker 1: I do something to the person that I know is

1399
01:26:23,520 --> 01:26:25,080
Speaker 1: going to be there and it's going to be different,

1400
01:26:25,479 --> 01:26:29,840
Speaker 1: you know. So I just think business in general, not

1401
01:26:29,960 --> 01:26:36,400
Speaker 1: only labels, but yes, labels, to the investments, the things.

1402
01:26:36,479 --> 01:26:38,320
Speaker 1: I don't know if it's because I'm more of a

1403
01:26:38,439 --> 01:26:41,519
Speaker 1: business person than just the artists. I don't feel like

1404
01:26:41,600 --> 01:26:44,680
Speaker 1: I have the perfect voice or the best dance or

1405
01:26:44,760 --> 01:26:46,559
Speaker 1: the I think I have a little bit of everything,

1406
01:26:46,600 --> 01:26:50,679
Speaker 1: and then I get there. You know, it's a combo.

1407
01:26:52,400 --> 01:26:56,320
Speaker 1: I just think the investments and the thing. It should

1408
01:26:56,320 --> 01:27:00,519
Speaker 1: be more clear so we understand why they do some

1409
01:27:00,760 --> 01:27:03,679
Speaker 1: type of things and why you should do some type

1410
01:27:03,720 --> 01:27:09,440
Speaker 1: of things. But sometimes in all the business, all the industry,

1411
01:27:09,479 --> 01:27:12,920
Speaker 1: and then it's not only about record labels, people come

1412
01:27:13,000 --> 01:27:15,840
Speaker 1: here and they say yeah, yeah, let's do it, and

1413
01:27:15,960 --> 01:27:19,400
Speaker 1: they leave and they're like, uh, forget it, and this

1414
01:27:19,520 --> 01:27:23,600
Speaker 1: should not be like that. Things should be And for me,

1415
01:27:23,800 --> 01:27:28,439
Speaker 1: things are very I like real stuff, real talk. You

1416
01:27:28,560 --> 01:27:30,439
Speaker 1: sit down on me, I will tell you. The problem

1417
01:27:30,560 --> 01:27:34,639
Speaker 1: is Papa, Papa, da da da da, And I expect

1418
01:27:34,720 --> 01:27:37,439
Speaker 1: you to say, okay, so the problem here is da

1419
01:27:37,520 --> 01:27:39,000
Speaker 1: da da da da da da da da da da.

1420
01:27:39,200 --> 01:27:41,800
Speaker 1: And I'll be like, okay, how we get disorted. We

1421
01:27:42,000 --> 01:27:45,679
Speaker 1: do this, we do da da cool. Cool, we both

1422
01:27:45,760 --> 01:27:49,560
Speaker 1: do it. But sometimes most of the times it's not.

1423
01:27:50,479 --> 01:27:52,519
Speaker 1: I sit and I and I'm never gonna change. So

1424
01:27:52,640 --> 01:27:55,320
Speaker 1: I just sit down and I'm like, here's the problem. Papa,

1425
01:27:55,479 --> 01:27:57,519
Speaker 1: pa pa, pa pa. That doesn't mean I don't like you,

1426
01:27:58,000 --> 01:28:00,479
Speaker 1: doesn't that doesn't mean you're not a good person. That

1427
01:28:00,600 --> 01:28:03,640
Speaker 1: means we have this problem. And nowadays, me and my

1428
01:28:03,720 --> 01:28:05,840
Speaker 1: brother we work together for so many years, so when

1429
01:28:05,880 --> 01:28:09,400
Speaker 1: we have issues in a company, we have a company together.

1430
01:28:10,000 --> 01:28:14,759
Speaker 1: We have crazy fights. Let's go to the movies.

1431
01:28:14,840 --> 01:28:15,760
Speaker 2: Let's and we go.

1432
01:28:16,080 --> 01:28:19,840
Speaker 1: Because we love each other, we can discussata. Whatever I

1433
01:28:19,960 --> 01:28:22,160
Speaker 1: said is what's gonna happen. Whatever he said is what's

1434
01:28:22,160 --> 01:28:25,760
Speaker 1: gonna happen. Bah bah bah boom. And we have the

1435
01:28:25,880 --> 01:28:28,479
Speaker 1: ability of still looking at each other's face and be like,

1436
01:28:28,600 --> 01:28:33,920
Speaker 1: I appreciate, I love you. Let's go do whatever. But

1437
01:28:34,840 --> 01:28:38,320
Speaker 1: people have a very hard time on doing that, and

1438
01:28:38,439 --> 01:28:43,200
Speaker 1: I don't. I will never understand why, but that's how

1439
01:28:43,360 --> 01:28:47,800
Speaker 1: things work. They just talk here, I talk my real shita.

1440
01:28:49,240 --> 01:28:52,360
Speaker 1: They talk whatever is necessary for you to shut up,

1441
01:28:53,640 --> 01:28:56,519
Speaker 1: and then you go home and you see that it

1442
01:28:56,680 --> 01:28:59,720
Speaker 1: worked for nothing, for no reason. You spent two hours

1443
01:28:59,760 --> 01:29:04,960
Speaker 1: of life that you could have been sleeping, taking a nap, literally,

1444
01:29:05,640 --> 01:29:08,040
Speaker 1: And then people have this. But I think it's in

1445
01:29:08,280 --> 01:29:11,040
Speaker 1: all industries. I don't think it's only in record labels.

1446
01:29:11,040 --> 01:29:14,120
Speaker 1: I don't think it's only in music. I think it's everywhere.

1447
01:29:14,600 --> 01:29:17,960
Speaker 1: People in work have a very hard time on sitting

1448
01:29:18,040 --> 01:29:22,120
Speaker 1: down and being like the problem for you is this?

1449
01:29:22,320 --> 01:29:24,599
Speaker 1: For me is this, let's do this, yeah, and then

1450
01:29:24,800 --> 01:29:29,160
Speaker 1: do what they actually agreed. It's so for me it's

1451
01:29:30,120 --> 01:29:33,480
Speaker 1: I don't know. Maybe I would never get to understand

1452
01:29:34,360 --> 01:29:38,880
Speaker 1: the way business run. That's why I go slow, you know,

1453
01:29:39,840 --> 01:29:41,000
Speaker 1: with my hard times.

1454
01:29:41,320 --> 01:29:44,400
Speaker 2: But I go, that's brilliant. I love hearing that, and

1455
01:29:44,479 --> 01:29:47,200
Speaker 2: I can see just I want everyone who's listening, if

1456
01:29:47,200 --> 01:29:50,240
Speaker 2: you're not watching, when I'm sitting with you, I I

1457
01:29:51,400 --> 01:29:54,479
Speaker 2: it's so resonant to me that it's such a peaceful

1458
01:29:54,520 --> 01:29:57,599
Speaker 2: place with that, and what I think is really beautiful

1459
01:29:57,600 --> 01:30:00,240
Speaker 2: and special. I was in Bhutan recently this year, and

1460
01:30:00,360 --> 01:30:05,200
Speaker 2: Bhutan's known for measuring gross national happiness, not GDP, so

1461
01:30:05,280 --> 01:30:09,479
Speaker 2: they measure happiness then they have spiritual tradition and it's

1462
01:30:09,960 --> 01:30:13,720
Speaker 2: landlocked between India and China. It's a tiny country, but

1463
01:30:13,840 --> 01:30:18,160
Speaker 2: they have this incredible heart of spirituality that runs through

1464
01:30:18,360 --> 01:30:22,759
Speaker 2: everything they do. And the king famously said they measure

1465
01:30:22,840 --> 01:30:25,519
Speaker 2: GNH gross National happiness. So I was visiting there this

1466
01:30:25,680 --> 01:30:29,599
Speaker 2: year and I met a filmmaker there. His name was Poo,

1467
01:30:30,040 --> 01:30:34,560
Speaker 2: very wonderful gentleman, very very talented, and he, with a

1468
01:30:34,800 --> 01:30:38,040
Speaker 2: very small budget for a movie, made a movie that

1469
01:30:38,160 --> 01:30:42,240
Speaker 2: got Oscar nominated. But Bhutan wasn't even on the list

1470
01:30:42,680 --> 01:30:46,680
Speaker 2: of countries to have an Oscar nomination. But because of him,

1471
01:30:46,800 --> 01:30:49,599
Speaker 2: now the movie got you know, the Bhutan is now

1472
01:30:49,680 --> 01:30:54,680
Speaker 2: on the list. And I often think about that with cultures, traditions,

1473
01:30:54,880 --> 01:30:58,240
Speaker 2: genres that we don't know about yet, that there aren't

1474
01:30:58,479 --> 01:31:01,840
Speaker 2: a Grammy award for that, aren't you know? Like you're

1475
01:31:01,840 --> 01:31:04,400
Speaker 2: saying like there isn't a place for Brazilian funk, Like

1476
01:31:04,479 --> 01:31:06,960
Speaker 2: what playlist does that go on? But I think that's

1477
01:31:07,120 --> 01:31:10,880
Speaker 2: what the world is looking for right now, this opportunity

1478
01:31:10,960 --> 01:31:14,439
Speaker 2: to be introduced. I'm always looking for discovering new I

1479
01:31:14,640 --> 01:31:16,800
Speaker 2: was I was talking about records. I really got into

1480
01:31:16,840 --> 01:31:19,080
Speaker 2: collecting records, and I was traveling and I really got

1481
01:31:19,080 --> 01:31:21,960
Speaker 2: into Brazilian jazz lately, and I never knew about Brazilian

1482
01:31:22,040 --> 01:31:24,559
Speaker 2: jazz growing up, and if it wasn't for the ability

1483
01:31:24,640 --> 01:31:27,600
Speaker 2: to bump into something, and so I actually think what

1484
01:31:27,720 --> 01:31:31,840
Speaker 2: you're doing for music, for the audio library, for people

1485
01:31:31,960 --> 01:31:35,559
Speaker 2: to have these experiences is really cool and powerful because

1486
01:31:35,680 --> 01:31:37,519
Speaker 2: just like Pow who's trying to tell the story of

1487
01:31:37,600 --> 01:31:40,680
Speaker 2: Bhutan that you, like you asked, where is that, a

1488
01:31:40,720 --> 01:31:42,479
Speaker 2: lot of people don't know where Bhutan is and they

1489
01:31:42,520 --> 01:31:44,479
Speaker 2: don't know what it is. But because of power, now

1490
01:31:44,520 --> 01:31:47,759
Speaker 2: they can watch his movies and understand Bhutan. And similarly

1491
01:31:47,840 --> 01:31:50,160
Speaker 2: with you, someone who may not know about Brazilian funk

1492
01:31:50,439 --> 01:31:52,439
Speaker 2: is now going to have the opportunity to understand what

1493
01:31:52,600 --> 01:31:55,400
Speaker 2: that is and what that feels like. And you think

1494
01:31:55,479 --> 01:31:58,160
Speaker 2: about that, like someone had to be first, whether it

1495
01:31:58,280 --> 01:31:58,920
Speaker 2: was hip hop.

1496
01:31:59,040 --> 01:32:00,920
Speaker 1: Yes, whether it were but it's always going to be

1497
01:32:01,000 --> 01:32:04,760
Speaker 1: harder for the first boys. It's good. It's always gonna

1498
01:32:04,760 --> 01:32:06,400
Speaker 1: be harder the first.

1499
01:32:06,200 --> 01:32:06,680
Speaker 2: I know that.

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01:32:07,000 --> 01:32:10,479
Speaker 1: And uh, even nowadays with funk in Brazil, it was

1501
01:32:10,760 --> 01:32:14,479
Speaker 1: not playing the radios, it was not the events, couldn't

1502
01:32:14,520 --> 01:32:17,599
Speaker 1: play funk. It was very hard. It could only listen

1503
01:32:17,680 --> 01:32:21,240
Speaker 1: to it in the favelas, inside of the communities, so

1504
01:32:21,560 --> 01:32:24,280
Speaker 1: it was a big, big fight. Nowadays people forget it,

1505
01:32:24,439 --> 01:32:26,719
Speaker 1: but at that time me my brother that we worked

1506
01:32:27,200 --> 01:32:30,960
Speaker 1: hard for it to happen. We remember very well because

1507
01:32:31,040 --> 01:32:35,000
Speaker 1: we know the struggle. But I actually used to care

1508
01:32:35,120 --> 01:32:38,439
Speaker 1: a lot if people remembered or not. Nowadays I just

1509
01:32:38,479 --> 01:32:40,599
Speaker 1: don't care. I just want to have a good time.

1510
01:32:41,000 --> 01:32:44,800
Speaker 1: I just want to be happy, because before I was

1511
01:32:44,880 --> 01:32:48,120
Speaker 1: doing it, but I wanted the credibility of people saying

1512
01:32:48,200 --> 01:32:50,519
Speaker 1: that I was the one who did it and that.

1513
01:32:50,680 --> 01:32:53,120
Speaker 1: There was a time my therapist, which is my schaman,

1514
01:32:53,240 --> 01:32:56,760
Speaker 1: she said, so why are you doing I was like, oh,

1515
01:32:56,920 --> 01:33:00,080
Speaker 1: because you know, I want to change people's lives. And

1516
01:33:00,120 --> 01:33:02,120
Speaker 1: she was like, oh, so why do you care if

1517
01:33:02,160 --> 01:33:05,439
Speaker 1: people acknowledge if it was you or not. If they

1518
01:33:05,560 --> 01:33:09,200
Speaker 1: change the life, that's it. That's what you wanted. And

1519
01:33:09,280 --> 01:33:12,439
Speaker 1: then I was thinking, I was like, what an ego trip?

1520
01:33:12,560 --> 01:33:15,120
Speaker 1: That I was right because I would say it was

1521
01:33:15,240 --> 01:33:17,640
Speaker 1: for the people, but I was very worried with the

1522
01:33:17,720 --> 01:33:20,320
Speaker 1: people if the people were saying it was me. So

1523
01:33:20,479 --> 01:33:22,519
Speaker 1: in the end of the day, if it's for the people,

1524
01:33:22,960 --> 01:33:25,479
Speaker 1: we should not care if people are acknowledging or not.

1525
01:33:26,160 --> 01:33:29,960
Speaker 1: If it was you or not. So right now, I'm

1526
01:33:30,040 --> 01:33:33,760
Speaker 1: in this place of like, and and I think that's

1527
01:33:34,400 --> 01:33:36,960
Speaker 1: what it took, it would take for me to be

1528
01:33:37,080 --> 01:33:40,080
Speaker 1: in this spiritual place of like, to do this album

1529
01:33:40,200 --> 01:33:42,040
Speaker 1: or to do whatever I want to do, to be

1530
01:33:42,160 --> 01:33:45,920
Speaker 1: on a place of like, not care about the response,

1531
01:33:46,960 --> 01:33:50,200
Speaker 1: just do what makes me happy at the moment, you know.

1532
01:33:50,280 --> 01:33:52,720
Speaker 1: And I'm like very much like that now. And I

1533
01:33:52,880 --> 01:33:57,519
Speaker 1: understand that could be less successful. Maybe not number one,

1534
01:33:57,680 --> 01:34:01,720
Speaker 1: maybe not number fifty, but I could careless because inside

1535
01:34:02,200 --> 01:34:04,519
Speaker 1: I feel way better than when I was number one,

1536
01:34:05,280 --> 01:34:06,120
Speaker 1: so much happier.

1537
01:34:06,240 --> 01:34:09,760
Speaker 2: I'm so happy for you. I feel that for you. Know,

1538
01:34:10,439 --> 01:34:13,439
Speaker 2: what a beautiful place to be in, Anita. You have

1539
01:34:13,560 --> 01:34:17,280
Speaker 2: been a joy to talk to. Honestly, I've enjoyed so

1540
01:34:17,439 --> 01:34:20,200
Speaker 2: much sharing energy with you, exchanging energy with you. I

1541
01:34:20,320 --> 01:34:25,360
Speaker 2: feel I feel uplifted, inspired, I feel connected, And I

1542
01:34:25,439 --> 01:34:27,519
Speaker 2: think everyone who's listening and watching will have felt that

1543
01:34:28,160 --> 01:34:30,680
Speaker 2: from your presence and your words. And you know the

1544
01:34:30,720 --> 01:34:33,280
Speaker 2: wisdom that you shared as well. I think you've You've

1545
01:34:33,360 --> 01:34:35,439
Speaker 2: mentioned in your own words Certatimes, so many times I

1546
01:34:35,479 --> 01:34:39,160
Speaker 2: think you've been underestimated. People only perceive someone for the

1547
01:34:39,240 --> 01:34:42,799
Speaker 2: character they play or from one dimension, and my genuine

1548
01:34:42,840 --> 01:34:46,919
Speaker 2: hope and intention is that this interview will just showcase

1549
01:34:47,040 --> 01:34:50,960
Speaker 2: the multifaceted, multi dimensional individual that you are. And I

1550
01:34:51,080 --> 01:34:53,240
Speaker 2: love the way you're able to be playful and profound

1551
01:34:53,280 --> 01:34:54,200
Speaker 2: all at the same time.

1552
01:34:55,200 --> 01:34:59,120
Speaker 1: I think people, that's what I want from people now

1553
01:34:59,200 --> 01:35:01,640
Speaker 1: in my life and my career. I want people to

1554
01:35:01,800 --> 01:35:04,599
Speaker 1: understand that we need to find a balance. We are

1555
01:35:04,680 --> 01:35:07,959
Speaker 1: in the material world, so we cannot be just spiritual.

1556
01:35:08,040 --> 01:35:10,120
Speaker 1: We need to eat, we need to you know, we

1557
01:35:10,280 --> 01:35:12,439
Speaker 1: need to work so we can have house to live in.

1558
01:35:13,400 --> 01:35:15,840
Speaker 1: So we just need to find the balance. So I

1559
01:35:15,960 --> 01:35:18,479
Speaker 1: do make music, to shake your ass, to have fun,

1560
01:35:18,600 --> 01:35:21,559
Speaker 1: to jump, let's have sex, da da da. But it's

1561
01:35:21,680 --> 01:35:25,639
Speaker 1: also important to come back and have the other side too.

1562
01:35:26,520 --> 01:35:30,200
Speaker 1: So we can never be happy if we only go

1563
01:35:30,360 --> 01:35:32,960
Speaker 1: into one side. The other side is always going to

1564
01:35:33,000 --> 01:35:35,360
Speaker 1: feel like, oh but it didn't look at me. We

1565
01:35:35,479 --> 01:35:38,840
Speaker 1: need to have the balance, the perfect balance. That's why

1566
01:35:38,920 --> 01:35:42,080
Speaker 1: we are in a material world. To understand that the

1567
01:35:42,560 --> 01:35:45,080
Speaker 1: balance in between these two things. To be able to

1568
01:35:45,880 --> 01:35:49,120
Speaker 1: walk around here and not let these things make you

1569
01:35:49,200 --> 01:35:52,320
Speaker 1: feel like heavy and life is only material, or just

1570
01:35:52,800 --> 01:35:56,400
Speaker 1: not only walk around here and forget the other side. Exists.

1571
01:35:56,520 --> 01:35:59,280
Speaker 1: You know, we're here in the middle, and that's the

1572
01:35:59,720 --> 01:36:01,799
Speaker 1: most important thing to be in the middle.

1573
01:36:02,040 --> 01:36:06,360
Speaker 2: Absolutely absolutely, Well said. We end every on purpose interview

1574
01:36:06,360 --> 01:36:09,080
Speaker 2: with a final five. So these questions have to be

1575
01:36:09,160 --> 01:36:12,920
Speaker 2: answered in one word to one sentence maximum. Okay, and

1576
01:36:13,120 --> 01:36:17,880
Speaker 2: so these are your final five, Anita. Question number one,

1577
01:36:18,160 --> 01:36:21,320
Speaker 2: what is the best advice you've ever heard or received?

1578
01:36:22,439 --> 01:36:29,080
Speaker 1: I think it's that I'm in control. I comment, what

1579
01:36:29,240 --> 01:36:35,000
Speaker 1: people do, they comment, how you react and receive you comment?

1580
01:36:35,920 --> 01:36:39,320
Speaker 2: Well said. What is the worst advice you've ever heard

1581
01:36:39,439 --> 01:36:39,920
Speaker 2: or received?

1582
01:36:42,200 --> 01:36:42,360
Speaker 1: Oh?

1583
01:36:44,040 --> 01:36:44,640
Speaker 2: Never give up?

1584
01:36:45,560 --> 01:36:47,400
Speaker 1: Oh I hate this. Never give up.

1585
01:36:48,280 --> 01:36:49,280
Speaker 2: It's okay to give up.

1586
01:36:49,479 --> 01:36:54,440
Speaker 1: My god, it's so okay to give up. If you're struggling,

1587
01:36:54,840 --> 01:36:57,760
Speaker 1: give up, take a nap, rest, do something. Then you

1588
01:36:57,880 --> 01:36:59,120
Speaker 1: come back when you're fine.

1589
01:37:01,040 --> 01:37:03,320
Speaker 2: Well said, all right. Question over three, what's the first

1590
01:37:03,360 --> 01:37:05,160
Speaker 2: thing you do in the morning and the last thing

1591
01:37:05,200 --> 01:37:05,880
Speaker 2: you do every night?

1592
01:37:06,520 --> 01:37:09,360
Speaker 1: Oh, it's the same. I have this book five minutes

1593
01:37:09,360 --> 01:37:13,160
Speaker 1: a day. I wake up, I write what three things

1594
01:37:13,200 --> 01:37:15,080
Speaker 1: I want for the day. If they think three things

1595
01:37:15,120 --> 01:37:22,120
Speaker 1: I'm grateful for and affirmations at night, same page, how

1596
01:37:22,479 --> 01:37:25,280
Speaker 1: three things I was amazing on the day and what

1597
01:37:25,400 --> 01:37:26,639
Speaker 1: I learned today?

1598
01:37:27,479 --> 01:37:31,240
Speaker 2: I love that question before. What's something you've learned recently?

1599
01:37:32,240 --> 01:37:36,920
Speaker 1: I learned this very important thing. When a person don't

1600
01:37:36,960 --> 01:37:41,759
Speaker 1: ask you for help, don't help. If the person asks

1601
01:37:42,680 --> 01:37:47,479
Speaker 1: you help, don't help someone that didn't ask for the help.

1602
01:37:48,680 --> 01:37:53,639
Speaker 1: If she didn't ask, she doesn't want or he Yeah.

1603
01:37:53,479 --> 01:37:54,520
Speaker 2: It's unsolicited.

1604
01:37:54,600 --> 01:38:00,120
Speaker 1: Sometimes we try because we are buying someone's struggle. Oh

1605
01:38:00,240 --> 01:38:03,920
Speaker 1: and this person can feel offended. This for the energy

1606
01:38:04,479 --> 01:38:08,400
Speaker 1: and the family constellation. We learned that when you help

1607
01:38:08,439 --> 01:38:11,080
Speaker 1: a person that is not asking for your help is

1608
01:38:11,160 --> 01:38:13,760
Speaker 1: like you buying this karma. You know.

1609
01:38:14,479 --> 01:38:16,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm going to go off peace slightly because you

1610
01:38:16,640 --> 01:38:22,200
Speaker 2: inspired a question of me. How has spirituality changed your

1611
01:38:22,320 --> 01:38:25,760
Speaker 2: view of dating and relationships romantic relationships, I.

1612
01:38:25,840 --> 01:38:32,120
Speaker 1: Feel like it's like a dance nowadays. Before I used

1613
01:38:32,160 --> 01:38:36,360
Speaker 1: to feel like relationships with what I was reading outside,

1614
01:38:36,520 --> 01:38:42,280
Speaker 1: seeing outside from others. And nowadays spirituality taught me that

1615
01:38:42,800 --> 01:38:47,000
Speaker 1: the relationship that you have with yourself is going to

1616
01:38:47,040 --> 01:38:50,160
Speaker 1: be the mirror for the relationship that you have with

1617
01:38:50,320 --> 01:38:54,320
Speaker 1: the other. So nowadays I work and myself a lot,

1618
01:38:55,000 --> 01:38:57,960
Speaker 1: so I can have a relationship with somebody, and when

1619
01:38:58,000 --> 01:39:01,720
Speaker 1: I find somebody that is not having a good relationship

1620
01:39:01,800 --> 01:39:07,680
Speaker 1: with himself. It doesn't I understand. I already know that

1621
01:39:07,800 --> 01:39:11,720
Speaker 1: it's not gonna work, and I don't insist. I let

1622
01:39:11,760 --> 01:39:14,439
Speaker 1: the person know I am here, I'm working on myself,

1623
01:39:15,320 --> 01:39:20,080
Speaker 1: and you're here for us to have a good, healthy, soft, easy,

1624
01:39:20,160 --> 01:39:27,120
Speaker 1: nice thing and grow together inside. If no, then it's

1625
01:39:27,200 --> 01:39:30,360
Speaker 1: not you know, but I used to think of relationship

1626
01:39:30,479 --> 01:39:34,400
Speaker 1: one a very different way, very different way that the

1627
01:39:34,560 --> 01:39:36,439
Speaker 1: person needed to add me and all the things that

1628
01:39:36,520 --> 01:39:40,360
Speaker 1: people outside ask, Oh, how what does he do? D

1629
01:39:40,840 --> 01:39:43,120
Speaker 1: does he DODDA da da? How is the family? What

1630
01:39:43,240 --> 01:39:46,200
Speaker 1: if you have kids? And howa days? I just see inside.

1631
01:39:46,760 --> 01:39:51,120
Speaker 1: Do you treat yourself very well? If yes, then let's go,

1632
01:39:51,280 --> 01:39:53,160
Speaker 1: because I treat myself very well too.

1633
01:39:53,960 --> 01:39:57,320
Speaker 2: I love that. Fifth and final question. We asked this

1634
01:39:57,439 --> 01:39:59,840
Speaker 2: to every guest who's ever been on the show. If

1635
01:40:00,040 --> 01:40:02,920
Speaker 2: you could create one law that everyone in the world

1636
01:40:03,040 --> 01:40:04,600
Speaker 2: had to follow, what would it be.

1637
01:40:06,280 --> 01:40:10,759
Speaker 1: I would create a limit of money that each person

1638
01:40:10,960 --> 01:40:18,040
Speaker 1: can have. Wow, that's it, that's what you can have. Now.

1639
01:40:18,960 --> 01:40:22,080
Speaker 1: The more you have, you're going to pass to the nature.

1640
01:40:22,600 --> 01:40:25,679
Speaker 1: You don't need to pass. I understand the money comes

1641
01:40:25,760 --> 01:40:30,160
Speaker 1: for those who work out, work hard, but an effort.

1642
01:40:30,800 --> 01:40:37,760
Speaker 1: But after some here you don't need more. No one

1643
01:40:37,880 --> 01:40:43,040
Speaker 1: needs that much. You need to share. If you want

1644
01:40:43,080 --> 01:40:46,439
Speaker 1: to build a school, cool, if you want to protect

1645
01:40:46,479 --> 01:40:51,679
Speaker 1: the Amazon cool, if you want whatever no one needs.

1646
01:40:51,960 --> 01:40:57,920
Speaker 1: I'm talking about necessity. No one needs billions, billions, no more,

1647
01:40:58,040 --> 01:41:00,479
Speaker 1: No nobody needs than this necessity.

1648
01:41:00,560 --> 01:41:05,960
Speaker 2: It's not there, Anita, phenomenal answer, fantastic interview. Thank you

1649
01:41:06,080 --> 01:41:08,800
Speaker 2: so much. It has been such a joy. It's been

1650
01:41:08,840 --> 01:41:11,519
Speaker 2: wonderful being with you. I hope that everyone has been

1651
01:41:11,560 --> 01:41:13,920
Speaker 2: listening and watching. Let me and I need to know

1652
01:41:14,040 --> 01:41:16,479
Speaker 2: what resonated with you. I know you guys, cut up

1653
01:41:16,479 --> 01:41:19,360
Speaker 2: the best clips for TikTok and Instagram and make sure

1654
01:41:19,360 --> 01:41:21,120
Speaker 2: you tag both of us so that we can see

1655
01:41:21,479 --> 01:41:23,679
Speaker 2: what stayed with you, what connected with you, what meant

1656
01:41:23,760 --> 01:41:26,000
Speaker 2: something to you. I'm sure that there were so many

1657
01:41:26,120 --> 01:41:28,680
Speaker 2: insights and so many points of wisdom that I need

1658
01:41:28,760 --> 01:41:31,120
Speaker 2: to shared today that have left a mark on you.

1659
01:41:31,280 --> 01:41:34,200
Speaker 2: And I can't wait to see what has stayed with you. Anita,

1660
01:41:34,240 --> 01:41:37,720
Speaker 2: Thank you so much again. Pleasure, such a joy, I love,

1661
01:41:37,800 --> 01:41:40,639
Speaker 2: so grateful and yeah, thank you for sharing this time

1662
01:41:40,680 --> 01:41:43,360
Speaker 2: with me. Thank you, thank you. If this is the

1663
01:41:43,479 --> 01:41:46,000
Speaker 2: year that you're trying to get creative, you're trying to

1664
01:41:46,160 --> 01:41:48,799
Speaker 2: build more. I need you to listen to this episode

1665
01:41:48,880 --> 01:41:51,760
Speaker 2: with Rick Rubin on how to break into your most

1666
01:41:51,880 --> 01:41:56,320
Speaker 2: creative self, how to use unconventional methods that lead to success,

1667
01:41:56,760 --> 01:42:00,160
Speaker 2: and the secret to genuinely loving what you do. If

1668
01:42:00,200 --> 01:42:03,200
Speaker 2: you're trying to find your passion and your lane, Rick

1669
01:42:03,280 --> 01:42:05,080
Speaker 2: Rubin's episode is the one for you.

1670
01:42:05,600 --> 01:42:07,799
Speaker 1: Just because I like it, that doesn't give it any value,

1671
01:42:08,200 --> 01:42:10,559
Speaker 1: like as an artist, if you like it, that's all

1672
01:42:10,640 --> 01:42:14,200
Speaker 1: of the value. That's the success comes when you say

1673
01:42:14,600 --> 01:42:16,720
Speaker 1: I like this enough for other people to see it.