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Speaker 1: Hi, guys, I just wanted to jump on here with

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Speaker 1: little Bow say hey bo okay um, and we just

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Speaker 1: wanted to let everyone know about upcoming live shows. We

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Speaker 1: have several coming up, but the first one is Queers Live,

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Speaker 1: Bow and tell them Babe. It's inspired from the very

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Speaker 1: inspired by, i should say, very first Diva's Live, starting

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Speaker 1: all your favorite divits, but we're just putting a little

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Speaker 1: queer spin on it. We're gonna have so many great people.

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Speaker 1: Larry Owen's called a Skull of Josh Sharp, Aaron Jackson

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Speaker 1: as Peter Smith, Peter Smith, and more to be announced.

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Speaker 1: More Queer to be announced. Musical directed by the one

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Speaker 1: and only Henry Koperski Son Monday, novembery at Joe's Pub,

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Speaker 1: The one and only. It's our very first, ever last

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Speaker 1: culture is to show at Joe's Pub. We love the

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Speaker 1: folks over there. We're gonna be, you know, recording a

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Speaker 1: little video promo for it in the coming weeks. You

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Speaker 1: Joe's Pub website, so please head over and do that,

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Speaker 1: and then we have the gag. Of course, it's I

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Speaker 1: don't think so honey Live at the Bellhouse on No. Yes,

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Speaker 1: this is gonna be a pretty new batch of folks.

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Speaker 1: We are really gonna show you some new faces, Darling.

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Speaker 1: Our last one was like a Legends ball type gig.

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Speaker 1: But this is gonna be such a fun, fresh experience.

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Speaker 1: It's gonna be so great. I can't wait for it. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you gotta get your tickets to our I Don't Think

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Speaker 1: So Honey Live at the Bellhouse on no And if

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Speaker 1: you're on the West Coast, Honey, I'm coming to you

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Speaker 1: and I'm gonna be doing I Don't Think So Honey

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Speaker 1: Live at the Region in downtown l A on December five.

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Speaker 1: The lineup will be announced shortly as well the Bellhouse lineup.

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Speaker 1: But this is gonna be so much fun. I loved

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Speaker 1: our show that we did fun. I can't believe I'm

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Speaker 1: missing this one. But you know what, it's for a

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Speaker 1: good reason, which is your wedding to yourself? Yes, just

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Speaker 1: kidding his work, um, so listen, I cannot wait. And

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Speaker 1: then selfishly, I want to just plug a little show

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Speaker 1: that I do here in New York City at the Duplex.

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Speaker 1: It's called have you heard of Christmas? Oh? I love

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Speaker 1: this show. Thank you baby. I'm really excited it's gonna

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Speaker 1: be on December eleven, December twenty two, so I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: do that show three times and I really want you

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Speaker 1: guys to come. You can get tickets, um, which are

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Speaker 1: on sale right now. Those are the shows, and that's

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Speaker 1: the Gauntlets and Special Best Special Guests and that's musical

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Speaker 1: directed by Henrykoperski as well. Yes, oh, I can't wait

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Speaker 1: for all of these shows. Um. I will be three

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Speaker 1: those tickets and check them out. Yes, look, man, oh

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Speaker 1: I see you? Why why look over there? How is

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Speaker 1: that culture? Yes? Goodness, let's ding dong c what's the

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Speaker 1: halloween for recording this on? We've just had a conversation,

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Speaker 1: a quick cursory little conversation with our guests. You're angry

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Speaker 1: I'm angry at I. But I should be angry at

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Speaker 1: just the system. I think, thank you so much. I

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Speaker 1: always say, don't be angry at me, be angry at

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Speaker 1: the system. It's real culture about four team the system,

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Speaker 1: and it's the system. It's Halloween. New York is just

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Speaker 1: everyone feels you feel like you have to fall in

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Speaker 1: about the gay community blown up a hundred thousand times? Sure,

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Speaker 1: well you're choosing to magnify self conscious Um. Yes, I

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Speaker 1: going to do together, which was killing you best friend's costume.

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Speaker 1: Maybe maybe we don't know. He's a very creative person.

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Speaker 1: I love. I love our guests so much, deeply deep.

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Speaker 1: For many years since Jeffrey colcast role with our other

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Speaker 1: Lovely Lovely the beloved. Um you know who was a

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Speaker 1: just gonna say, Henry said, you have to introduce me

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Speaker 1: little credits and then we can go on. He's an actor, author, um, celebrated, comedian. Um. Okay,

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Speaker 1: So search party, search party, Mark on search Party, fantastic,

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Speaker 1: could not care less about Mine Hunter, but I did watch.

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00:21:43,000 --> 00:21:46,320
Speaker 1: I slammed through Looking Um. It had its high points

423
00:21:46,320 --> 00:21:49,280
Speaker 1: and low points. Largely wasn't great, but he I think,

424
00:21:49,320 --> 00:21:50,960
Speaker 1: I'm sure I might have been a great show. I

425
00:21:51,119 --> 00:21:54,280
Speaker 1: literally cannot watch things with him in it because I

426
00:21:54,400 --> 00:21:59,320
Speaker 1: get to uh, no, you really have avoided him. I

427
00:21:59,359 --> 00:22:02,800
Speaker 1: mean I've seen like the clips of Let It Go. Sure,

428
00:22:02,840 --> 00:22:06,600
Speaker 1: I'm not a freaking monster, But I have a question

429
00:22:06,640 --> 00:22:10,280
Speaker 1: I'd like to pose, are we, as a gay culture

430
00:22:10,359 --> 00:22:14,200
Speaker 1: getting better about gay jealousy? I'm not. I don't think so.

431
00:22:14,440 --> 00:22:17,160
Speaker 1: I I think I am. I'm trying. I'm gonna say

432
00:22:17,200 --> 00:22:20,800
Speaker 1: that I'm I'm doing I'm doing great, you know. I mean,

433
00:22:20,880 --> 00:22:23,440
Speaker 1: we're all sitting here, no one's no one's hit each

434
00:22:23,440 --> 00:22:25,600
Speaker 1: other yet wants to kill each other. I mean it's

435
00:22:25,680 --> 00:22:28,159
Speaker 1: hard because I don't know we were I think we

436
00:22:28,280 --> 00:22:30,280
Speaker 1: deemed about this the other day because you talked to

437
00:22:30,320 --> 00:22:32,600
Speaker 1: you had a video thing about like people being mean

438
00:22:32,680 --> 00:22:37,080
Speaker 1: and comments and trying to pit you two against each other. Yes,

439
00:22:37,200 --> 00:22:39,160
Speaker 1: And because that drives me that that used to having

440
00:22:39,160 --> 00:22:41,080
Speaker 1: me in calling, like when we were doing this stuff

441
00:22:41,119 --> 00:22:43,600
Speaker 1: for logo and like and I would it just would

442
00:22:43,640 --> 00:22:47,480
Speaker 1: drive me crazy because it's just so and it's like, yeah,

443
00:22:47,520 --> 00:22:50,600
Speaker 1: it's coming from someone trying to think they're like funny

444
00:22:50,800 --> 00:22:52,159
Speaker 1: and they want to get our attention and they want

445
00:22:52,160 --> 00:22:54,040
Speaker 1: to get our attention to look, I can sass it

446
00:22:54,160 --> 00:22:57,120
Speaker 1: up to a bit. She's like no, no, thank you. Um.

447
00:22:57,320 --> 00:23:00,840
Speaker 1: But I think I think we're getting somewhat better at

448
00:23:00,880 --> 00:23:04,320
Speaker 1: gay jealousy. I'm still working on it then, Man, I

449
00:23:05,040 --> 00:23:08,119
Speaker 1: still can't I get so jealous of everybody, if of

450
00:23:08,240 --> 00:23:10,040
Speaker 1: things I don't even do, Like I was jealous of

451
00:23:10,080 --> 00:23:12,240
Speaker 1: Adam Rappon, you know what I mean, It's like I

452
00:23:12,359 --> 00:23:16,199
Speaker 1: don't I don't skate. I'm never going to skate. Well,

453
00:23:16,280 --> 00:23:18,320
Speaker 1: here's what bothered me about the Ripon thing is that

454
00:23:18,440 --> 00:23:20,280
Speaker 1: then it seemed like he was like trying to transition

455
00:23:20,320 --> 00:23:22,359
Speaker 1: into a comedy and like, you don't get to do that.

456
00:23:23,920 --> 00:23:26,520
Speaker 1: I think that you are charismatic and good at interviews

457
00:23:26,600 --> 00:23:29,000
Speaker 1: and like once in a while, yes, yeah you can,

458
00:23:29,240 --> 00:23:32,720
Speaker 1: you can tweet a tweet, but um, that to me

459
00:23:33,000 --> 00:23:36,639
Speaker 1: was like the world in which I think the person

460
00:23:36,720 --> 00:23:41,200
Speaker 1: inside me that sees the entertainment industry and and feels

461
00:23:41,200 --> 00:23:43,520
Speaker 1: like there's only so many spots. It's like if one

462
00:23:43,560 --> 00:23:45,560
Speaker 1: of those spots were to be occupied by Adam Rippon

463
00:23:45,600 --> 00:23:48,400
Speaker 1: in a comedic manner, I would be bothering. Yes, that's true.

464
00:23:48,440 --> 00:23:50,600
Speaker 1: Like I got I got really jealous when he was

465
00:23:50,680 --> 00:23:52,480
Speaker 1: like I think recently on Will and Grace and I

466
00:23:52,600 --> 00:23:55,040
Speaker 1: was got right, but I'm sure he was like playing himself.

467
00:23:55,200 --> 00:23:58,399
Speaker 1: And again he's like probably ten years younger than I am.

468
00:23:58,520 --> 00:24:01,280
Speaker 1: He is a literal like a Olympian. Yeah, you know,

469
00:24:01,359 --> 00:24:05,960
Speaker 1: there's like there's very little like you know what I mean,

470
00:24:06,080 --> 00:24:08,239
Speaker 1: Like there's so much room for that kind of thing,

471
00:24:08,359 --> 00:24:10,720
Speaker 1: especially because he's already famous, and but you know, I

472
00:24:10,800 --> 00:24:13,800
Speaker 1: think he'll probably settle into like a commentator career just

473
00:24:13,880 --> 00:24:15,800
Speaker 1: what he should be doing, like like you see what Johnny,

474
00:24:15,840 --> 00:24:19,280
Speaker 1: we're in. Tara Lepinski have been able to do what's fascinating,

475
00:24:19,400 --> 00:24:21,280
Speaker 1: and he hasn't, like, you know, beaten the ship out

476
00:24:21,280 --> 00:24:26,240
Speaker 1: of his husband, right that was allegedly I think Johnny.

477
00:24:26,440 --> 00:24:28,639
Speaker 1: I think there's some darkness with Johnny. There was like

478
00:24:28,720 --> 00:24:34,000
Speaker 1: a whole paparaz paparazzi, papa razzi tabling story of him

479
00:24:34,119 --> 00:24:38,120
Speaker 1: like beat. I think, like literally like he beat, there's something,

480
00:24:38,320 --> 00:24:40,879
Speaker 1: there's some darkness and I think they hadn't very uply divorced.

481
00:24:40,880 --> 00:24:43,320
Speaker 1: And I do know this because he was on that

482
00:24:43,720 --> 00:24:49,600
Speaker 1: Twinks Twink Medium we're going to call it Twink Medium

483
00:24:50,280 --> 00:24:53,520
Speaker 1: Tyler Henry Tyler Henry. He was on Twink Psychic And

484
00:24:54,080 --> 00:24:57,040
Speaker 1: what a great title. Why did they not title? Honestly,

485
00:24:57,080 --> 00:25:02,040
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna write my I So basically like he

486
00:25:02,200 --> 00:25:04,920
Speaker 1: was on that show and they talked about the divorce

487
00:25:05,000 --> 00:25:07,320
Speaker 1: and like the divorce was like somehow coming through, like

488
00:25:07,400 --> 00:25:10,960
Speaker 1: the other ghosts come through, and yeah, the divorces a ghost.

489
00:25:14,359 --> 00:25:16,439
Speaker 1: It's not just ghost, it's not just goes. He can

490
00:25:16,440 --> 00:25:19,240
Speaker 1: also he's also like empathic, so he basically was like,

491
00:25:19,320 --> 00:25:20,960
Speaker 1: I'm sensing like a lot of darkness, like you went

492
00:25:21,000 --> 00:25:23,400
Speaker 1: through a divorce and and he was like, yeah, you've

493
00:25:23,640 --> 00:25:27,040
Speaker 1: you've you've read picture. Allegedly he's never read anything about

494
00:25:27,080 --> 00:25:31,000
Speaker 1: any celebrity, which is a jump that I I love

495
00:25:31,040 --> 00:25:32,920
Speaker 1: it when he has like the celebrities that like you

496
00:25:33,160 --> 00:25:35,880
Speaker 1: yourself as the audience member, like who then is yeah,

497
00:25:36,840 --> 00:25:39,440
Speaker 1: that's all that's really fun. But also then sometimes he'll

498
00:25:39,480 --> 00:25:43,520
Speaker 1: have something that show books some huge celebrities like like yeah,

499
00:25:43,600 --> 00:25:49,400
Speaker 1: it's it'll go from like a huge celebrity to Brittany Kim. Yeah, yeah,

500
00:25:49,920 --> 00:25:52,920
Speaker 1: that would be did he had Little Kim and he

501
00:25:53,040 --> 00:25:55,440
Speaker 1: talked about he was one of the few people that

502
00:25:55,840 --> 00:25:59,680
Speaker 1: flat out he recognized right away. He knew Little Kim,

503
00:26:00,400 --> 00:26:07,840
Speaker 1: even Biggie. I'm not going to say they they didn't

504
00:26:07,960 --> 00:26:11,600
Speaker 1: say why Biggie died or who killed Biggie, but they

505
00:26:11,720 --> 00:26:13,520
Speaker 1: kept saying in the in the previews. It was like

506
00:26:13,600 --> 00:26:16,359
Speaker 1: the end of the episode obviously, So he was like,

507
00:26:16,400 --> 00:26:18,399
Speaker 1: do you have any questions And she was like, I mean,

508
00:26:18,520 --> 00:26:20,840
Speaker 1: I think everyone would want to know who shot him.

509
00:26:21,320 --> 00:26:23,359
Speaker 1: And that was like when they were teasing it. And

510
00:26:23,480 --> 00:26:26,040
Speaker 1: then he I think at the end of the episode,

511
00:26:26,080 --> 00:26:27,760
Speaker 1: And I could be wrong about this because I don't

512
00:26:27,880 --> 00:26:30,720
Speaker 1: fully remember, but he did say, I don't it's not

513
00:26:30,880 --> 00:26:34,520
Speaker 1: coming through who. But I will say that there was

514
00:26:34,680 --> 00:26:38,200
Speaker 1: like hints leading up to the in the days before

515
00:26:38,240 --> 00:26:41,480
Speaker 1: who it could be like, you guys probably could figure

516
00:26:41,520 --> 00:26:43,359
Speaker 1: this out if you really think about what happened in

517
00:26:43,400 --> 00:26:46,760
Speaker 1: the days before. And then she said something like, yes,

518
00:26:46,920 --> 00:26:49,320
Speaker 1: it was really weird, Like he called us all into

519
00:26:49,359 --> 00:26:51,200
Speaker 1: the recording studio and made us all sit in the

520
00:26:51,240 --> 00:26:53,600
Speaker 1: same room and told us all to be careful like

521
00:26:53,840 --> 00:26:55,560
Speaker 1: and then she kind of like said all this ship

522
00:26:55,680 --> 00:26:58,960
Speaker 1: about how it was in the air that something was

523
00:26:59,000 --> 00:27:01,960
Speaker 1: going to happen, but it was very bizarre. That is

524
00:27:02,080 --> 00:27:05,320
Speaker 1: very bizarre. And also, wouldn't it be crazy if Tyler

525
00:27:05,400 --> 00:27:09,639
Speaker 1: Henry is the person who figured out? I was like,

526
00:27:10,240 --> 00:27:12,000
Speaker 1: would be crazy if Tyler who was the president who's

527
00:27:12,040 --> 00:27:17,920
Speaker 1: shop let's write it, you know which. One One of

528
00:27:18,000 --> 00:27:21,000
Speaker 1: the hardest ones to watch was actually Gus Kenworthy because

529
00:27:21,080 --> 00:27:23,920
Speaker 1: he was on and he described how he actually was

530
00:27:24,040 --> 00:27:27,920
Speaker 1: witnessed to one of his friends dying when he was

531
00:27:28,000 --> 00:27:30,480
Speaker 1: a teen, and um, it was like his best friend

532
00:27:30,560 --> 00:27:32,320
Speaker 1: and like he got him to open up about it.

533
00:27:32,320 --> 00:27:35,000
Speaker 1: I'm telling you this teller, Henry Twink, He's got me

534
00:27:35,119 --> 00:27:37,840
Speaker 1: twink psychic is good. The power of the twink, Babe,

535
00:27:38,920 --> 00:27:42,439
Speaker 1: the twink, they say last year, Oh yeah, you're right

536
00:27:42,760 --> 00:27:44,960
Speaker 1: right good. Perfume Genus said that now that he's no

537
00:27:45,080 --> 00:27:46,800
Speaker 1: longer a twink, no one is that the age of

538
00:27:46,840 --> 00:27:49,240
Speaker 1: the twink is over. But it was like it was

539
00:27:49,320 --> 00:27:50,800
Speaker 1: like a funny tweet, but like he was like, no,

540
00:27:50,960 --> 00:27:52,840
Speaker 1: but it's it was very solipsistic. It was very like,

541
00:27:53,200 --> 00:27:54,800
Speaker 1: now that I'm no longer a twink, no one can

542
00:27:54,840 --> 00:27:57,000
Speaker 1: be in. But he is a twink still. He absolutely

543
00:27:57,119 --> 00:27:59,040
Speaker 1: is a twin. He's so cute. How do you identify

544
00:27:59,720 --> 00:28:02,679
Speaker 1: not I used to identify as a twin. I think

545
00:28:02,760 --> 00:28:05,359
Speaker 1: I'm an age dead twink. There has to be a

546
00:28:05,440 --> 00:28:08,320
Speaker 1: name for it. There. I hate twunk. I don't like.

547
00:28:08,760 --> 00:28:10,280
Speaker 1: I almost felt myself say it, and I was like,

548
00:28:10,520 --> 00:28:14,320
Speaker 1: it's just kind of like Wolf. Well, I think that's

549
00:28:14,320 --> 00:28:19,040
Speaker 1: a whole other situation. Um not Fox get Away, Yeah,

550
00:28:19,160 --> 00:28:24,359
Speaker 1: because we can't be saying Fox memories of Megan Kelly's. Yeah. Also,

551
00:28:24,880 --> 00:28:28,359
Speaker 1: I picture more like silver Fox, Silver Fox. How do

552
00:28:28,440 --> 00:28:31,760
Speaker 1: you identify. I don't a gauge in but there's no

553
00:28:32,000 --> 00:28:35,560
Speaker 1: like specificity, right, But that's the that's the disgusting community

554
00:28:35,640 --> 00:28:38,280
Speaker 1: doing that too totally. We're looking at we're doing it

555
00:28:38,320 --> 00:28:41,400
Speaker 1: to ourselves. Absolutely, we are the community. We are the community.

556
00:28:41,600 --> 00:28:45,040
Speaker 1: But I truly I think we're at a place where

557
00:28:45,080 --> 00:28:49,120
Speaker 1: we can break. We can culturally help not not us

558
00:28:49,200 --> 00:28:51,040
Speaker 1: as like a podcast, but no, I think the three

559
00:28:51,080 --> 00:28:53,320
Speaker 1: of us right now, us, right now, I can help

560
00:28:53,480 --> 00:28:56,280
Speaker 1: fix this thing of gay jealousy. And then look, it's

561
00:28:56,280 --> 00:28:57,880
Speaker 1: all I do too, I think, and I think it's

562
00:28:57,920 --> 00:29:00,680
Speaker 1: something that's like a really good, like overall thing to

563
00:29:00,760 --> 00:29:04,040
Speaker 1: try to like be mindful of because it is. I

564
00:29:04,120 --> 00:29:06,880
Speaker 1: mean even I have friends who are like, I'm not jealous,

565
00:29:06,920 --> 00:29:10,400
Speaker 1: but clearly they're every I think, yeah, there, there, it's

566
00:29:10,440 --> 00:29:12,480
Speaker 1: a it's a big thing. And I think it's it's

567
00:29:12,520 --> 00:29:14,800
Speaker 1: why you know, there's so much like you know, in

568
00:29:15,000 --> 00:29:19,080
Speaker 1: fighting within. We're not gonna sit here and ignore the

569
00:29:19,200 --> 00:29:22,400
Speaker 1: fact that there was a large chunk of time I

570
00:29:22,480 --> 00:29:26,600
Speaker 1: think probably in the I think in US earlier coming

571
00:29:26,720 --> 00:29:28,840
Speaker 1: up like where it didn't feel like there were too

572
00:29:28,920 --> 00:29:32,320
Speaker 1: many spots. And so sometimes I will book something and

573
00:29:32,360 --> 00:29:34,800
Speaker 1: they'll flat out say to me like you know John

574
00:29:34,840 --> 00:29:38,880
Speaker 1: couldn't do this, or like like you know this person

575
00:29:38,920 --> 00:29:41,760
Speaker 1: couldn't do this, and we love you, but but they

576
00:29:41,800 --> 00:29:44,400
Speaker 1: make it sort of clear that I was like the

577
00:29:44,480 --> 00:29:48,240
Speaker 1: sixth runner up. Yeah, I've experienced that. So it's like

578
00:29:48,320 --> 00:29:50,400
Speaker 1: it's and I don't think they're meaning to say, like

579
00:29:50,880 --> 00:29:52,200
Speaker 1: I think what they're trying to do is be like,

580
00:29:52,280 --> 00:29:54,400
Speaker 1: we know all your friends. But but but as a

581
00:29:54,520 --> 00:29:57,120
Speaker 1: roundabout way of in doing that, they're kind of like saying,

582
00:29:57,720 --> 00:30:00,080
Speaker 1: you know, there was a gay role on here, and

583
00:30:00,880 --> 00:30:03,800
Speaker 1: we thought of the most famous quote unquote person for it.

584
00:30:04,800 --> 00:30:07,040
Speaker 1: But but I definitely think that that's not any of

585
00:30:07,200 --> 00:30:10,080
Speaker 1: our fault. Have you been jealous of the Queer Eye guys, Yes,

586
00:30:10,360 --> 00:30:15,680
Speaker 1: because they're so worldfull, but not even jealous, but also

587
00:30:15,840 --> 00:30:19,080
Speaker 1: just confounded in this way that it's like, oh, Anthony's

588
00:30:19,200 --> 00:30:21,280
Speaker 1: doing a set, is hosting a show it in New York?

589
00:30:21,560 --> 00:30:23,560
Speaker 1: What the hell is that He's going to be the

590
00:30:23,680 --> 00:30:27,800
Speaker 1: foil to Jonathan? Sure, but like that doesn't mean he

591
00:30:27,840 --> 00:30:29,800
Speaker 1: knows how to be on a stage in front of people.

592
00:30:29,880 --> 00:30:32,080
Speaker 1: I think he probably does know how to. He was

593
00:30:32,240 --> 00:30:34,200
Speaker 1: he an actor. I think he was an actor. He

594
00:30:34,680 --> 00:30:37,720
Speaker 1: did us the classes. Now, I'm sure he's sure, he's great, Anthony,

595
00:30:37,960 --> 00:30:41,840
Speaker 1: Anthony's perfect. You don't have to do that. But um,

596
00:30:43,000 --> 00:30:46,040
Speaker 1: you guys do a show though as them or something, Well,

597
00:30:46,360 --> 00:30:48,640
Speaker 1: do this, it's not as them. It's basically it's called

598
00:30:48,760 --> 00:30:50,800
Speaker 1: Queer Eye Live where we basically all pick one of

599
00:30:50,920 --> 00:30:54,320
Speaker 1: the things and person someone up on stage and we

600
00:30:54,400 --> 00:30:59,640
Speaker 1: kind of give them do it live it. Zach Zimmerman's

601
00:31:00,000 --> 00:31:02,360
Speaker 1: a fret child, lovely guy. He pulled asend. Do you

602
00:31:02,440 --> 00:31:05,440
Speaker 1: guys do live shows? Like every night? I feel like

603
00:31:05,480 --> 00:31:07,680
Speaker 1: your Instagram is always like I'm here, I'm here, I'm

604
00:31:07,720 --> 00:31:12,600
Speaker 1: doing this. Oftentimes feels like it happens to get booked

605
00:31:12,600 --> 00:31:15,040
Speaker 1: all on the same time. Like last week we happened

606
00:31:15,080 --> 00:31:17,320
Speaker 1: to have three shows. I happen to have three shows

607
00:31:17,480 --> 00:31:18,760
Speaker 1: right in a row, and I was like, god, I

608
00:31:18,800 --> 00:31:21,400
Speaker 1: feel insufferable on Instagram right now. But it's not like

609
00:31:21,960 --> 00:31:24,760
Speaker 1: every no no, And it's not I'm not saying the

610
00:31:25,120 --> 00:31:28,040
Speaker 1: promotions and sufferable. Um, I would, I would pull you aside,

611
00:31:28,080 --> 00:31:32,520
Speaker 1: don't worry, but but but it's just I'm impressed you're

612
00:31:32,520 --> 00:31:35,520
Speaker 1: so busy. Um, I think it's like one of those

613
00:31:35,520 --> 00:31:37,440
Speaker 1: it's it's it's the thing where you don't post your failures.

614
00:31:38,120 --> 00:31:40,760
Speaker 1: That's a bit. Yeah, that's true. That's a big New

615
00:31:40,840 --> 00:31:42,880
Speaker 1: York versus l A difference. I think it's like I

616
00:31:42,960 --> 00:31:44,360
Speaker 1: feel like, well, I guess there are people in LA

617
00:31:44,360 --> 00:31:46,360
Speaker 1: who are doing shows every night. I'm just New York

618
00:31:46,440 --> 00:31:49,400
Speaker 1: feels like busier. It does. Yeah, I think for better

619
00:31:49,440 --> 00:31:50,840
Speaker 1: or for worse, because in l A you're just like,

620
00:31:50,960 --> 00:31:53,280
Speaker 1: oh cool, I'm just gonna be chilling at home with

621
00:31:53,360 --> 00:31:54,680
Speaker 1: my friends. I mean, I guess I could go to

622
00:31:54,760 --> 00:31:57,960
Speaker 1: a show at the Virgil every night, but I'm not

623
00:31:58,040 --> 00:32:00,440
Speaker 1: doing that. I feel like New York it's like the

624
00:32:00,520 --> 00:32:03,160
Speaker 1: New York pace of life. It's like I'm doing this. Look,

625
00:32:03,200 --> 00:32:05,160
Speaker 1: I'm doing this. What is the l A pace of

626
00:32:05,240 --> 00:32:08,000
Speaker 1: like is like I'm gonna do that? Yeah, okay, and

627
00:32:08,120 --> 00:32:10,600
Speaker 1: what's I'm sorry, I don't I don't really like it's

628
00:32:10,680 --> 00:32:13,000
Speaker 1: like like I think, I think it's more more chill

629
00:32:13,080 --> 00:32:14,680
Speaker 1: and focus. It's like, oh, yeah, I'm gonna do that.

630
00:32:14,920 --> 00:32:16,360
Speaker 1: And then in New York it's like I'm doing this

631
00:32:16,440 --> 00:32:18,880
Speaker 1: and this and this, yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah. Energy thing?

632
00:32:19,400 --> 00:32:21,760
Speaker 1: Are you basically just pooped out every day in New York?

633
00:32:21,840 --> 00:32:23,920
Speaker 1: Like after like you're just like well, I don't mean

634
00:32:24,000 --> 00:32:25,560
Speaker 1: on the search party is so great because like I

635
00:32:25,680 --> 00:32:27,560
Speaker 1: come for like like a long periods of time and

636
00:32:27,560 --> 00:32:29,480
Speaker 1: then I only like shoot like one day a week,

637
00:32:29,840 --> 00:32:31,520
Speaker 1: and it's great. But then you can like you're here

638
00:32:31,560 --> 00:32:33,320
Speaker 1: and you can avoid people about by saying like, oh,

639
00:32:33,360 --> 00:32:36,160
Speaker 1: I'm shooting the whole time. Reality, I'm just at the

640
00:32:36,240 --> 00:32:39,920
Speaker 1: apartment and watching TV. But but it's that that's nice. Yeah,

641
00:32:40,000 --> 00:32:41,720
Speaker 1: it does, but it does it stresses me the funk

642
00:32:41,760 --> 00:32:44,920
Speaker 1: out here. It's that is the dream. So I mean,

643
00:32:45,200 --> 00:32:47,920
Speaker 1: I think my dream in life is to do as

644
00:32:48,000 --> 00:32:53,560
Speaker 1: little as possible. Yeah, that's like maximum amount of money.

645
00:32:53,720 --> 00:32:56,040
Speaker 1: Oh yeah yeah yeah. The reason why I want to

646
00:32:56,080 --> 00:32:58,320
Speaker 1: be successful is so I can be on vacation all

647
00:32:58,360 --> 00:33:00,040
Speaker 1: the time. Yeah, Like I would be totally fine of

648
00:33:00,120 --> 00:33:04,240
Speaker 1: my husband like just fully supported me. Yeah, I would

649
00:33:04,400 --> 00:33:06,520
Speaker 1: love to be. I tried desperately to be a kept

650
00:33:06,600 --> 00:33:08,160
Speaker 1: boy for most of my early twenties in New York,

651
00:33:08,200 --> 00:33:13,280
Speaker 1: and it never kept boy kept boy. Um I think,

652
00:33:14,280 --> 00:33:17,680
Speaker 1: but like theoretically you would just find someone whould be like, yes,

653
00:33:17,840 --> 00:33:20,880
Speaker 1: you you're staying with me, um you, But but you're

654
00:33:20,880 --> 00:33:23,800
Speaker 1: saying aspirationally in your twenties, that was that was the

655
00:33:23,880 --> 00:33:25,920
Speaker 1: thing I mean, but I also actually wanted to accomplish

656
00:33:26,000 --> 00:33:27,920
Speaker 1: up Now I feel like I'm like, okay, I would

657
00:33:28,160 --> 00:33:31,320
Speaker 1: like happily like if my husband were to be like

658
00:33:31,920 --> 00:33:35,120
Speaker 1: like in my dream scenario, like my husband becomes like

659
00:33:35,800 --> 00:33:38,720
Speaker 1: Tom Holland, which would require like a time machine for

660
00:33:38,800 --> 00:33:42,160
Speaker 1: him to go backwards. But but but it could happen,

661
00:33:42,400 --> 00:33:43,840
Speaker 1: and so he would be an expiderment and he even

662
00:33:43,880 --> 00:33:45,840
Speaker 1: had like just just tons and tons of money, and

663
00:33:45,840 --> 00:33:47,600
Speaker 1: I would just travel the world with him. I know

664
00:33:47,720 --> 00:33:53,200
Speaker 1: that sounds really just sad and um, just basic, but

665
00:33:53,400 --> 00:33:57,760
Speaker 1: I'm into especially because you said Tom Holland, and I've

666
00:33:57,800 --> 00:33:59,960
Speaker 1: been like short stircuting in my brain. I think he's

667
00:34:00,040 --> 00:34:03,640
Speaker 1: so fun, so hot, and he's so good just a

668
00:34:03,720 --> 00:34:06,440
Speaker 1: cute face, he's in a cute little tight little body,

669
00:34:06,520 --> 00:34:10,080
Speaker 1: and also such a good spider Man spider Man like

670
00:34:10,280 --> 00:34:12,160
Speaker 1: they really figured it out with it. And he's and

671
00:34:12,280 --> 00:34:17,040
Speaker 1: he does not strain for the American accent. He yeah,

672
00:34:17,080 --> 00:34:18,239
Speaker 1: he just does that. And you're like, yeah, he's a

673
00:34:18,280 --> 00:34:21,080
Speaker 1: boy from Queen's I love that, loves actually a boy

674
00:34:21,120 --> 00:34:26,960
Speaker 1: from Queen. Queen Marissa Tomey is my fucking hot aunt.

675
00:34:27,400 --> 00:34:29,960
Speaker 1: So I actually have have not seen a single one

676
00:34:29,960 --> 00:34:32,719
Speaker 1: of those movies again because he's so hot. I don't

677
00:34:32,760 --> 00:34:35,040
Speaker 1: want to watch it. He's gonna I hear you on that.

678
00:34:35,080 --> 00:34:37,520
Speaker 1: Spider Man Homecoming is a great movie. It's really good,

679
00:34:37,640 --> 00:34:39,920
Speaker 1: and that's all about a homecoming dance. It truly, I

680
00:34:39,920 --> 00:34:42,319
Speaker 1: mean it leads up to homecoming dance, but really it does.

681
00:34:42,480 --> 00:34:45,960
Speaker 1: But it's real good. The twists, baby, are very good.

682
00:34:46,000 --> 00:34:49,240
Speaker 1: There are twist s galore, okay, and it also really

683
00:34:50,239 --> 00:34:51,880
Speaker 1: it works as like a weird high school movie and

684
00:34:51,920 --> 00:34:55,239
Speaker 1: also a superhero movie. Yeah, it pulls it off in

685
00:34:55,280 --> 00:34:58,160
Speaker 1: a really good way. I think we're the only three

686
00:34:58,239 --> 00:35:01,759
Speaker 1: gay men sitting around the table discussing Spider Man. I

687
00:35:01,880 --> 00:35:04,759
Speaker 1: think that there actually is a whisper network of gay

688
00:35:04,800 --> 00:35:07,320
Speaker 1: nerds who I've seen the movie. It will tap about it,

689
00:35:07,800 --> 00:35:09,720
Speaker 1: but I bet. I mean, Joe Kim Booster is literally

690
00:35:09,800 --> 00:35:11,840
Speaker 1: jacking off right now. I think at home listening to

691
00:35:11,920 --> 00:35:17,520
Speaker 1: this big comic. We went to go see he and

692
00:35:17,560 --> 00:35:19,680
Speaker 1: I went to go see Justice League together. I don't

693
00:35:19,680 --> 00:35:22,840
Speaker 1: know what any of that means. It's the it's the

694
00:35:23,280 --> 00:35:26,640
Speaker 1: Marvel Avengers, but with Batman in those games, go away.

695
00:35:27,480 --> 00:35:30,440
Speaker 1: I don't want that. You actually don't think you want it.

696
00:35:30,560 --> 00:35:32,680
Speaker 1: I mean, the movie was like a perfect five out

697
00:35:32,680 --> 00:35:34,560
Speaker 1: of ten. But I'll tell you who was also good

698
00:35:34,600 --> 00:35:40,080
Speaker 1: in that. Speaking of cute twins, Speaking of by twinks,

699
00:35:40,360 --> 00:35:43,200
Speaker 1: I know he's real sexy again someone I get I

700
00:35:43,280 --> 00:35:47,120
Speaker 1: get very jealous of. But again, like again, no crossover whatsoever.

701
00:35:47,280 --> 00:35:49,839
Speaker 1: But I just I think ultimately the jealousy also comes from,

702
00:35:49,920 --> 00:35:52,200
Speaker 1: like I want to like have sex with this person.

703
00:35:53,920 --> 00:35:57,640
Speaker 1: That is okay. Maybe this is the yes, we've gone

704
00:35:57,640 --> 00:35:59,080
Speaker 1: to the by thank you, Jeffrey, We've gotten to the

705
00:35:59,160 --> 00:36:03,280
Speaker 1: bottom of this is conflating feelings of jealousy with feelings

706
00:36:03,320 --> 00:36:05,120
Speaker 1: of a trap, yeah, wanting to funk what you want

707
00:36:05,160 --> 00:36:09,560
Speaker 1: to be? Yes. Yeah. And that's why social media. That's

708
00:36:09,600 --> 00:36:11,920
Speaker 1: why social media makes it all so much worse, right

709
00:36:12,239 --> 00:36:14,760
Speaker 1: have you guys social media these days and the devices

710
00:36:15,160 --> 00:36:18,200
Speaker 1: and the devices Oh my god? Unfortunately, ya, how do

711
00:36:18,280 --> 00:36:20,200
Speaker 1: you navigate? How do you do it? How do you

712
00:36:20,280 --> 00:36:23,319
Speaker 1: do it? I I truly I wish I had to answer, babe.

713
00:36:23,360 --> 00:36:25,200
Speaker 1: I'm a slave to the to the stuff. Are you

714
00:36:25,360 --> 00:36:28,439
Speaker 1: I'm off of Twitter? Now? I really well, I don't.

715
00:36:28,480 --> 00:36:31,000
Speaker 1: I don't like I didn't get rid of my profile, um,

716
00:36:31,200 --> 00:36:33,120
Speaker 1: but I don't. I got off, got off my phone,

717
00:36:33,239 --> 00:36:36,960
Speaker 1: I got it off my computer. I got fully deleted

718
00:36:37,000 --> 00:36:39,440
Speaker 1: all Facebook, like I forget that. That was in like

719
00:36:39,480 --> 00:36:41,279
Speaker 1: a manic moment and I was just like, I'm getting

720
00:36:41,360 --> 00:36:42,320
Speaker 1: rid of it. It was like, don't you want to

721
00:36:42,400 --> 00:36:44,880
Speaker 1: download these like twelve years of history you have on here?

722
00:36:44,920 --> 00:36:47,239
Speaker 1: And I was like, no, fully downloaded it. Now I'm like,

723
00:36:47,280 --> 00:36:49,040
Speaker 1: why didn't I download that stuff? That would have taken

724
00:36:49,120 --> 00:36:51,759
Speaker 1: five minutes, But well, when you can activate it again.

725
00:36:52,080 --> 00:36:54,560
Speaker 1: And then again in a manic episode, I deleted my

726
00:36:55,440 --> 00:36:58,280
Speaker 1: Twitter profile but then again the next day was like, okay,

727
00:36:58,280 --> 00:37:02,759
Speaker 1: well that was crazy, so reactivated but deleted the app. Um,

728
00:37:03,080 --> 00:37:05,879
Speaker 1: and it's great. I love not being on Twitter. It's

729
00:37:06,080 --> 00:37:09,200
Speaker 1: so fucking nice. And I'm on Instagram, but I take

730
00:37:09,560 --> 00:37:11,480
Speaker 1: I try to like go three weeks and then I

731
00:37:11,600 --> 00:37:13,520
Speaker 1: deleted off my phone for two weeks and then I

732
00:37:13,600 --> 00:37:16,760
Speaker 1: redownload it. That I do Twitter and Instagram, not Facebook.

733
00:37:16,920 --> 00:37:19,840
Speaker 1: But then for for you to for you to have

734
00:37:19,960 --> 00:37:22,879
Speaker 1: gone like gone through this clean break and I don't

735
00:37:22,880 --> 00:37:25,520
Speaker 1: think it's necessarily like I'm sure like you were in

736
00:37:25,560 --> 00:37:30,520
Speaker 1: a manic episode, but yeah, but honey, but I I

737
00:37:30,640 --> 00:37:34,080
Speaker 1: feel like there was just this collective culture sure, like okay,

738
00:37:34,440 --> 00:37:37,600
Speaker 1: enough enough yeah, I mean I don't really I realized,

739
00:37:37,600 --> 00:37:39,800
Speaker 1: like I don't really know what I do on Twitter anymore.

740
00:37:39,840 --> 00:37:41,960
Speaker 1: I was like, what am I doing to this conversation

741
00:37:42,120 --> 00:37:44,440
Speaker 1: and what am I adding? I try to just make

742
00:37:44,520 --> 00:37:47,760
Speaker 1: sure that it's always stays light and like a funny

743
00:37:47,880 --> 00:37:51,400
Speaker 1: little comments about whatever stories happening. I do like it

744
00:37:51,480 --> 00:37:54,160
Speaker 1: as like a little joke machine. And I guess, but um,

745
00:37:55,040 --> 00:37:57,279
Speaker 1: I certainly don't want to get earnest on it. And

746
00:37:57,360 --> 00:38:00,319
Speaker 1: how often are you on Instagram? Instagram is my drug

747
00:38:00,360 --> 00:38:02,759
Speaker 1: of choice? Like every like, how how many times a

748
00:38:02,840 --> 00:38:04,640
Speaker 1: day do you think, I mean we see each other

749
00:38:04,760 --> 00:38:06,759
Speaker 1: on there? I mean like it seems like you're a

750
00:38:06,800 --> 00:38:08,839
Speaker 1: drug of choice too. Oh yeah, well, I mean there's

751
00:38:08,840 --> 00:38:10,320
Speaker 1: a lot of drugs of choice, right, yeah, but the

752
00:38:10,400 --> 00:38:13,640
Speaker 1: Instagram is one of them. Sure we can find out

753
00:38:14,200 --> 00:38:16,399
Speaker 1: on the on iPhones. Now you can do screen time

754
00:38:16,440 --> 00:38:19,640
Speaker 1: where it just really I'm so scared of this. Let

755
00:38:19,680 --> 00:38:21,480
Speaker 1: me just let me just see, let me just Instagram

756
00:38:21,600 --> 00:38:24,399
Speaker 1: is the one. And I actually like because I enjoy

757
00:38:24,520 --> 00:38:28,040
Speaker 1: putting the stories together. I like posting the little I

758
00:38:28,200 --> 00:38:30,640
Speaker 1: like posting pictures. I like how it's love the Q

759
00:38:30,800 --> 00:38:32,680
Speaker 1: and A. I hate to say, you know what, I

760
00:38:32,800 --> 00:38:35,680
Speaker 1: like the Q and I have shame about it every

761
00:38:35,719 --> 00:38:37,520
Speaker 1: time I do it. I'm like, this is so self indulgent,

762
00:38:38,719 --> 00:38:42,600
Speaker 1: so stupid, but it's so fun and it's not that

763
00:38:42,680 --> 00:38:45,920
Speaker 1: self indulgent because they have just democratized this for everyone

764
00:38:46,040 --> 00:38:47,960
Speaker 1: to be able to do. That's true, and so it's

765
00:38:48,000 --> 00:38:50,919
Speaker 1: just it's for everyone. So they're every so often someone

766
00:38:51,040 --> 00:38:54,759
Speaker 1: you follow does it and you're like, well, you know

767
00:38:54,800 --> 00:38:57,200
Speaker 1: what it is. It's like when someone does fifty in

768
00:38:57,280 --> 00:38:59,800
Speaker 1: a row, and especially when they set the thing of like,

769
00:39:00,200 --> 00:39:02,320
Speaker 1: asked me about this thing, and this thing is not

770
00:39:02,440 --> 00:39:04,560
Speaker 1: something you're interested in. That's like, well I don't care

771
00:39:04,600 --> 00:39:07,759
Speaker 1: about this now. Okay. So my daily average over the

772
00:39:07,840 --> 00:39:11,080
Speaker 1: last seven days on Instagram an hour and five minutes.

773
00:39:11,239 --> 00:39:13,360
Speaker 1: Two hours on Instagram a day a day. That's not

774
00:39:13,480 --> 00:39:14,839
Speaker 1: as bad as I thought you were going to say,

775
00:39:15,080 --> 00:39:18,120
Speaker 1: um a day, um a day. And on Tuesday, this Tuesday,

776
00:39:18,200 --> 00:39:21,080
Speaker 1: I was on it for three hours. What happened on Tuesday?

777
00:39:21,200 --> 00:39:25,839
Speaker 1: I'm not sure the DMV, honey, how do you find

778
00:39:25,880 --> 00:39:29,640
Speaker 1: this out? You needed to have the newest, Oh good thing.

779
00:39:29,680 --> 00:39:34,520
Speaker 1: I'm poor, It's it's free. I just want people to

780
00:39:34,600 --> 00:39:36,880
Speaker 1: know that it's fine. I don't I don't find that.

781
00:39:37,360 --> 00:39:41,000
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't think I'm a producer, Emma, and

782
00:39:41,080 --> 00:39:43,520
Speaker 1: she kind of raised her eyebrows producer on my bragedr eyebrows.

783
00:39:43,640 --> 00:39:46,879
Speaker 1: Do you think it's a lot? Well, I think two

784
00:39:46,960 --> 00:39:48,880
Speaker 1: hours out of the twenty four of the day, honey,

785
00:39:48,920 --> 00:39:51,120
Speaker 1: that's one twelve your day was spent looking at an app.

786
00:39:51,239 --> 00:39:54,759
Speaker 1: And honey, that's not a bad fraction, fraction because that's

787
00:39:54,800 --> 00:39:59,600
Speaker 1: like it's added together, right, yours is more. I can

788
00:39:59,640 --> 00:40:04,279
Speaker 1: find this death. I feel you post more almost. I

789
00:40:04,680 --> 00:40:07,239
Speaker 1: have been moved to post because thing so Jeffrey as

790
00:40:07,320 --> 00:40:10,680
Speaker 1: someone who was very much like mired in the social

791
00:40:10,719 --> 00:40:13,399
Speaker 1: media thing where you were just like, oh, I will

792
00:40:13,480 --> 00:40:16,839
Speaker 1: have a show that lives on social media face yeah,

793
00:40:17,160 --> 00:40:19,680
Speaker 1: the Facebook thing, yeah yeah, Well I mean that was

794
00:40:19,760 --> 00:40:22,359
Speaker 1: ultimately just because like I had literally nothing, El's going

795
00:40:22,400 --> 00:40:25,360
Speaker 1: to a lot of um and was you know, Facebook

796
00:40:25,440 --> 00:40:29,439
Speaker 1: Live was a new love. I thought it was so fun.

797
00:40:30,000 --> 00:40:31,840
Speaker 1: It was so fun. We I love doing it with

798
00:40:31,880 --> 00:40:34,640
Speaker 1: the Brendan Scannell, who we all love. But it was,

799
00:40:34,800 --> 00:40:36,279
Speaker 1: you know, it was just like a lot of work

800
00:40:36,360 --> 00:40:38,760
Speaker 1: and like you know again, you're like I'm just screaming

801
00:40:38,800 --> 00:40:41,440
Speaker 1: into the ether and is anyone hearing this. You had

802
00:40:41,480 --> 00:40:44,160
Speaker 1: such good guests too, Yeah, we had really good we

803
00:40:44,200 --> 00:40:51,800
Speaker 1: had some A Blair, who plays Brendan Scannell's mom on

804
00:40:52,000 --> 00:40:56,400
Speaker 1: the Heather's reboots. I'm planning. I'm planning to binge it

805
00:40:56,400 --> 00:40:58,799
Speaker 1: all at once, and by the time this episode comes out,

806
00:40:58,800 --> 00:41:00,960
Speaker 1: I will have watched it. It's so so so good

807
00:41:01,400 --> 00:41:03,320
Speaker 1: Night three right now. And then the boy who plays

808
00:41:03,719 --> 00:41:08,040
Speaker 1: the lead, like the hot jock boys, so cute, James Scully.

809
00:41:08,160 --> 00:41:10,399
Speaker 1: He's a friend of mine, as I need that. He's

810
00:41:10,520 --> 00:41:14,839
Speaker 1: very I don't know how he identifies. Now now I'm

811
00:41:14,840 --> 00:41:19,359
Speaker 1: as jealous of anybody he's got on the show. Yeah,

812
00:41:19,400 --> 00:41:21,800
Speaker 1: it's really, really good. I can't wait. I was excited

813
00:41:21,800 --> 00:41:23,239
Speaker 1: about it when it was a first announcement. It was

814
00:41:23,280 --> 00:41:25,120
Speaker 1: crushed when I heard that it wasn't going to be

815
00:41:25,200 --> 00:41:27,799
Speaker 1: coming out, and I'm very excited, but the whole thing

816
00:41:27,920 --> 00:41:29,680
Speaker 1: is done because it's like, first of all, what did

817
00:41:29,719 --> 00:41:32,800
Speaker 1: you think you were getting when you ordered Heathers. Heathers

818
00:41:32,960 --> 00:41:35,520
Speaker 1: is about what it's about, and if you didn't want that,

819
00:41:36,120 --> 00:41:38,200
Speaker 1: then don't order that. And also, I'm sorry, but it

820
00:41:38,320 --> 00:41:43,000
Speaker 1: wasn't like there hadn't been school show. I mean, I meanwhile,

821
00:41:43,040 --> 00:41:45,360
Speaker 1: like USA is literally making a TV show of the Purge.

822
00:41:45,960 --> 00:41:49,719
Speaker 1: You know. I also think it's a complete misunderstanding of

823
00:41:49,840 --> 00:41:53,280
Speaker 1: the tone of the original film is deeply black, comedy

824
00:41:53,320 --> 00:41:55,759
Speaker 1: and sterial, and I think it's like that's what this

825
00:41:55,960 --> 00:41:59,600
Speaker 1: was going to be in very stylized, very stylized, and

826
00:41:59,640 --> 00:42:01,960
Speaker 1: it's like you can't just and this is a thing

827
00:42:02,040 --> 00:42:04,359
Speaker 1: I think that we all have to kind of come

828
00:42:04,400 --> 00:42:06,640
Speaker 1: around to or like start talking about more. Is It's like,

829
00:42:06,840 --> 00:42:09,239
Speaker 1: you know, when it comes to art, it's like think

830
00:42:09,280 --> 00:42:11,280
Speaker 1: about it. It's like it might actually have a comment

831
00:42:11,680 --> 00:42:13,880
Speaker 1: on this thing right when you let it, if you

832
00:42:13,960 --> 00:42:16,680
Speaker 1: actually let him do that. Yeah, I love just talking

833
00:42:16,719 --> 00:42:20,000
Speaker 1: about art with you. It's been the it's been the

834
00:42:20,040 --> 00:42:23,080
Speaker 1: highlight of my art. On the Paramount Network is my

835
00:42:23,160 --> 00:42:26,040
Speaker 1: favorite are on the Paramount Network? What else is there?

836
00:42:26,719 --> 00:42:32,759
Speaker 1: So much? We love the Paramount Network. Waiting anything you

837
00:42:32,800 --> 00:42:35,680
Speaker 1: can before we get into like more central questions of

838
00:42:35,760 --> 00:42:38,560
Speaker 1: the show, show anything you can tell us about such

839
00:42:38,600 --> 00:42:40,640
Speaker 1: party this season or no, we all know about that.

840
00:42:40,719 --> 00:42:41,759
Speaker 1: We all know there's going to be a way. I

841
00:42:41,800 --> 00:42:44,719
Speaker 1: think everybody knows it's going to be a very very

842
00:42:45,000 --> 00:42:48,120
Speaker 1: very big wedding, like a big wedding with with two

843
00:42:48,560 --> 00:42:53,480
Speaker 1: iconic wedding planners, Drew d and Sam Pancake photos. And

844
00:42:53,520 --> 00:42:58,200
Speaker 1: there are some other really really iconic gay people and

845
00:42:58,960 --> 00:43:03,040
Speaker 1: I you're allowed to know. Yeah, you know that Cole

846
00:43:03,200 --> 00:43:07,320
Speaker 1: skola Is is in is in the wedding nucle I

847
00:43:07,360 --> 00:43:12,120
Speaker 1: think perhaps pretend Jill and Booster. I believe he is. Uh,

848
00:43:12,239 --> 00:43:15,920
Speaker 1: it's Sabrina Jolie wrote the wedding episode. She wrote that

849
00:43:16,960 --> 00:43:20,759
Speaker 1: it's gonna be in it. Yes, everyone's face was writing

850
00:43:20,760 --> 00:43:24,200
Speaker 1: for Search Party. Yes, she wrote on it this season. Yeah. Yeah,

851
00:43:24,239 --> 00:43:25,960
Speaker 1: it's very fun and it's a very yes. So it's

852
00:43:26,000 --> 00:43:30,400
Speaker 1: a really really big wedding episode and uh yeah, I

853
00:43:30,400 --> 00:43:32,000
Speaker 1: don't know how much more I'm allowed to say. Okay,

854
00:43:32,040 --> 00:43:35,240
Speaker 1: but that's that's going. But they are a big Louie

855
00:43:35,280 --> 00:43:39,000
Speaker 1: Anderson's in Louis season. Yes, I met him the other day.

856
00:43:39,040 --> 00:43:43,920
Speaker 1: He was the lawyer. He's Drew's lawyer. Yeah. Um, and MICHAELA.

857
00:43:43,960 --> 00:43:47,239
Speaker 1: Watkins is on it. Yeah, I did see that they're

858
00:43:47,239 --> 00:43:51,560
Speaker 1: posting that MICHAELA. Watkins was Yes, Yeah, she's amazing. What

859
00:43:51,640 --> 00:43:53,960
Speaker 1: a good and you're an episode for you said, I

860
00:43:54,120 --> 00:43:56,719
Speaker 1: have a tiny little part in episode four and we'll

861
00:43:56,760 --> 00:43:58,359
Speaker 1: take this out if they end up cutting it because

862
00:43:58,360 --> 00:44:00,359
Speaker 1: it's one of those things that could get cut. Well,

863
00:44:00,560 --> 00:44:02,560
Speaker 1: I don't think it'll get cut. No, After some of

864
00:44:02,600 --> 00:44:05,000
Speaker 1: the things you were saying off Mike about the show

865
00:44:05,239 --> 00:44:07,800
Speaker 1: and how the process was, I think that I think that,

866
00:44:07,920 --> 00:44:10,040
Speaker 1: well I can just report back and report back that

867
00:44:10,960 --> 00:44:13,600
Speaker 1: my relationship with Charles Rogerson j D plast director was

868
00:44:13,719 --> 00:44:17,200
Speaker 1: really positive. And what did j plas director? He's so sexy,

869
00:44:17,360 --> 00:44:19,400
Speaker 1: He's so fucking hot and I have to tell you

870
00:44:20,400 --> 00:44:26,359
Speaker 1: um him. But it was weird because like it's weird

871
00:44:26,440 --> 00:44:30,479
Speaker 1: because I've always thought he was so sexy, so seeing

872
00:44:30,560 --> 00:44:34,440
Speaker 1: him in person, it's such a weirdo. When I saw

873
00:44:34,520 --> 00:44:37,919
Speaker 1: him in person, I was like, this, holds up this, Yeah,

874
00:44:37,960 --> 00:44:43,359
Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, what did you don't erase name one

875
00:44:43,400 --> 00:44:45,000
Speaker 1: person here? You think it's really hot and then you

876
00:44:45,080 --> 00:44:49,200
Speaker 1: see them in person and they weren't like a celebrity Yeah,

877
00:44:49,200 --> 00:44:54,080
Speaker 1: because like many incarnations. Yeah, he's just he's just he's

878
00:44:55,239 --> 00:44:58,400
Speaker 1: he's he's unassumingly sexy. That's what I mean. You know

879
00:44:58,440 --> 00:45:02,200
Speaker 1: who's fun out in person, who's also so hot on screen?

880
00:45:02,680 --> 00:45:06,120
Speaker 1: Justin Thorow. I saw him in Central Park or not

881
00:45:06,200 --> 00:45:09,000
Speaker 1: Central Park, watching a square park the other day, walking

882
00:45:09,080 --> 00:45:12,840
Speaker 1: his dog. So he's in his eyes when he's a

883
00:45:13,040 --> 00:45:16,440
Speaker 1: genuinely like nice person, and his eyes when when he smiles,

884
00:45:16,520 --> 00:45:18,799
Speaker 1: his eyes twinkled. Yeah, but you guys are just describing

885
00:45:18,960 --> 00:45:23,320
Speaker 1: hot people. Why don't you just why don't you just

886
00:45:24,000 --> 00:45:29,480
Speaker 1: happen to be in person? Is not? What did you say?

887
00:45:29,640 --> 00:45:32,920
Speaker 1: He was unassumingly hot in person? He was unassumingly a

888
00:45:33,040 --> 00:45:37,359
Speaker 1: pop star and transparent like he's Okay, you guys are

889
00:45:37,480 --> 00:45:42,120
Speaker 1: so stupid. We are really. I'm just saying, are you

890
00:45:42,239 --> 00:45:46,719
Speaker 1: both single? I? Yes, I'm very single. Are you both dating? Yeah?

891
00:45:46,800 --> 00:45:49,000
Speaker 1: And oh my god, you want to know something. I

892
00:45:49,080 --> 00:45:51,680
Speaker 1: got dumped for something that wasn't that serious, but it

893
00:45:51,760 --> 00:45:55,759
Speaker 1: just was drawn out for six years. But then I realized, uh,

894
00:45:56,160 --> 00:46:00,400
Speaker 1: longest relationship just in terms of length alone, wasn't like

895
00:46:00,520 --> 00:46:03,400
Speaker 1: the deepest one. Yeah, it wasn't like it just it

896
00:46:03,560 --> 00:46:08,480
Speaker 1: was because it was it was. It remained kind of casually. Yeah, exactly,

897
00:46:08,520 --> 00:46:11,440
Speaker 1: and you know how study Okay, so we just listeners know.

898
00:46:11,480 --> 00:46:13,960
Speaker 1: We tripped on acid up state recently, the first time,

899
00:46:14,719 --> 00:46:17,040
Speaker 1: Semond time, first time? Did you love? I had a

900
00:46:17,040 --> 00:46:20,560
Speaker 1: really good time. I wrote down a lot of lessons. Yes, um,

901
00:46:20,800 --> 00:46:22,600
Speaker 1: have you've done you've done it. I do. I love

902
00:46:22,719 --> 00:46:28,920
Speaker 1: the most recently Jordan's Firstman and myself and Brian Sofie

903
00:46:29,160 --> 00:46:32,440
Speaker 1: were that sounds like a good crew l ST at

904
00:46:32,480 --> 00:46:36,280
Speaker 1: the San Diego Zoo. Oh. That must have been amazing memorial.

905
00:46:36,680 --> 00:46:38,880
Speaker 1: But that seems almost dangerous because it's amazing because with

906
00:46:39,040 --> 00:46:42,120
Speaker 1: with LST, it's like in this sort of group mind

907
00:46:42,200 --> 00:46:43,680
Speaker 1: you set and like all it takes us for one

908
00:46:43,719 --> 00:46:45,520
Speaker 1: person to be like, let's climb over the let's go

909
00:46:45,560 --> 00:46:48,799
Speaker 1: stay high to that tiger yeah, and everyone else be like, yeah,

910
00:46:48,840 --> 00:46:50,520
Speaker 1: let's do it, you know, Like but I mean we

911
00:46:50,600 --> 00:46:52,239
Speaker 1: were the three of us were all standing on the

912
00:46:52,440 --> 00:46:54,279
Speaker 1: on like our deck, and we were like, the thing is,

913
00:46:54,400 --> 00:46:56,560
Speaker 1: we're all here and we all know that we all

914
00:46:56,600 --> 00:46:58,600
Speaker 1: want to jump off this deck, but we also know

915
00:46:58,960 --> 00:47:02,359
Speaker 1: we shouldn't. We were micro do saying first of all,

916
00:47:03,200 --> 00:47:06,480
Speaker 1: and um second of all. We just we were in

917
00:47:06,520 --> 00:47:09,919
Speaker 1: a very it was a very positive like loving more yeah,

918
00:47:09,960 --> 00:47:11,680
Speaker 1: and I think we were all very hyper aware of

919
00:47:11,719 --> 00:47:13,600
Speaker 1: the fact that we write a very crowded zeus surrounded

920
00:47:13,640 --> 00:47:16,480
Speaker 1: both children, so we weren't we didn't get too out

921
00:47:16,520 --> 00:47:19,240
Speaker 1: of control. But I so you had a lovely LSD

922
00:47:19,600 --> 00:47:22,719
Speaker 1: upstate experience close friends, and it was it was good

923
00:47:22,760 --> 00:47:24,239
Speaker 1: and it was healing and it was healing. But then

924
00:47:24,280 --> 00:47:26,040
Speaker 1: Study said something where she was like, you know, like

925
00:47:26,920 --> 00:47:29,880
Speaker 1: it's all behind us now, our first, our first jobs,

926
00:47:29,920 --> 00:47:32,040
Speaker 1: our first loves, our first And I was like, oh

927
00:47:32,440 --> 00:47:35,080
Speaker 1: not not for some people. And I was like yeah,

928
00:47:35,120 --> 00:47:37,680
Speaker 1: And then I talked about this in therapy unpacked it.

929
00:47:37,719 --> 00:47:39,840
Speaker 1: I was like, oh yeah, like that like me breaking

930
00:47:39,880 --> 00:47:42,560
Speaker 1: up with this dude was like sort of like not

931
00:47:42,719 --> 00:47:45,000
Speaker 1: the most meaningful but the longest. And that's like kind

932
00:47:45,040 --> 00:47:46,800
Speaker 1: of sad. Did you break up with the dudes you

933
00:47:46,840 --> 00:47:50,359
Speaker 1: break up with me? Yeah? Whatever, it's not sad, that's

934
00:47:50,760 --> 00:47:53,560
Speaker 1: that's not sad. No, because it's it's the reason you

935
00:47:53,640 --> 00:47:55,920
Speaker 1: say it's sad is because you're trying to compare it

936
00:47:56,000 --> 00:47:58,759
Speaker 1: to like what society says should have happened. How old

937
00:47:58,760 --> 00:48:03,240
Speaker 1: are you? Yeah, I mean, for fox sake that don't

938
00:48:03,280 --> 00:48:05,160
Speaker 1: do this. I know we're going to do this because

939
00:48:05,200 --> 00:48:07,279
Speaker 1: you're the one being ridiculous. I mean, I will say also,

940
00:48:07,320 --> 00:48:10,479
Speaker 1: when I lived in New York City, I never dated really.

941
00:48:10,600 --> 00:48:12,200
Speaker 1: I mean like I had obviously like a lot of

942
00:48:12,360 --> 00:48:15,160
Speaker 1: like random anonymous sex or like or whatever, but I

943
00:48:15,239 --> 00:48:17,520
Speaker 1: never had I never had a boyfriend in the entire

944
00:48:17,600 --> 00:48:19,560
Speaker 1: time I lived here, and then the minute I moved

945
00:48:19,560 --> 00:48:21,480
Speaker 1: to l A, I was like, boyfriend crazy, how did you?

946
00:48:22,840 --> 00:48:25,440
Speaker 1: I met Augustus at a brunch and we hooked up

947
00:48:25,480 --> 00:48:28,239
Speaker 1: in the bathroom. That it's very I feel like it's

948
00:48:28,280 --> 00:48:31,040
Speaker 1: from something. Well that that to me, the fact that

949
00:48:31,719 --> 00:48:34,400
Speaker 1: the attraction like superseded the fact that there was a

950
00:48:34,440 --> 00:48:36,960
Speaker 1: brunch happening and it was the day and society don't know,

951
00:48:37,440 --> 00:48:40,480
Speaker 1: this shouldn't happen. That's real attraction. The night before had

952
00:48:40,560 --> 00:48:42,759
Speaker 1: been at the same party. We were both at eight

953
00:48:42,840 --> 00:48:45,400
Speaker 1: Fourth of July party at Roland Emmerick's house, like a

954
00:48:45,440 --> 00:48:48,960
Speaker 1: big We didn't meet there and we both looked up

955
00:48:49,000 --> 00:48:51,279
Speaker 1: with other people at that and then we were all

956
00:48:51,400 --> 00:48:54,360
Speaker 1: like a little hangover brunch the next day, Jordan's firstman

957
00:48:54,440 --> 00:48:58,439
Speaker 1: and I went and uh we uh staring was super

958
00:48:58,520 --> 00:49:02,600
Speaker 1: cute and we we hooked up. And I think, I

959
00:49:02,719 --> 00:49:04,759
Speaker 1: think I'm allowed to say this, but that Jordan was

960
00:49:04,760 --> 00:49:08,120
Speaker 1: also involved in the hook up. That ye, and so

961
00:49:08,320 --> 00:49:10,920
Speaker 1: Jordan's what and I both were like, he's super cute

962
00:49:11,520 --> 00:49:14,800
Speaker 1: and Jordan's won't admit this, but he did say he

963
00:49:14,960 --> 00:49:20,239
Speaker 1: was like a game on Oh no, no, no, no.

964
00:49:20,400 --> 00:49:22,920
Speaker 1: This was that I'm going to reveal something right now

965
00:49:23,000 --> 00:49:26,040
Speaker 1: because I'm feeling frisky as well. The first that I

966
00:49:26,120 --> 00:49:28,719
Speaker 1: ever found we we found out that Henry Skoperski had

967
00:49:28,760 --> 00:49:30,680
Speaker 1: broken up with his boyfriend. And I turned to Joel

968
00:49:30,719 --> 00:49:32,840
Speaker 1: and Joel said to me, if you don't go for it,

969
00:49:33,000 --> 00:49:40,759
Speaker 1: I will. He's Henry Is who plays piano, right, Yes, yes, yes, um?

970
00:49:41,200 --> 00:49:43,040
Speaker 1: And did you did go for it? And it was

971
00:49:43,920 --> 00:49:46,600
Speaker 1: at night on? And how long were you guys together? To?

972
00:49:47,400 --> 00:49:50,799
Speaker 1: Two years plus? And are you still close? Yes? Um,

973
00:49:50,920 --> 00:49:54,279
Speaker 1: we are, we are. We're doing fine. I would say

974
00:49:54,719 --> 00:49:56,960
Speaker 1: they're working together. We're working together on stuff, and we

975
00:49:57,000 --> 00:49:59,719
Speaker 1: worked together and we've been closer than we are right now.

976
00:49:59,800 --> 00:50:02,239
Speaker 1: But I think it's just because our relationship kind of

977
00:50:02,440 --> 00:50:05,279
Speaker 1: ended and then like sort of continued in a way

978
00:50:05,320 --> 00:50:08,560
Speaker 1: where it's like we're not really we're in the like

979
00:50:08,719 --> 00:50:11,440
Speaker 1: letting go place right now. So we're a little bit

980
00:50:11,480 --> 00:50:13,960
Speaker 1: more a stranger than we have ever been. One of

981
00:50:14,040 --> 00:50:20,200
Speaker 1: you had a boyfriend since he is Um, I don't

982
00:50:20,239 --> 00:50:22,160
Speaker 1: know what he wants me to say, but I know

983
00:50:22,280 --> 00:50:25,080
Speaker 1: what I will say, which is that he is dating

984
00:50:25,160 --> 00:50:27,759
Speaker 1: someone else and I didn't know the person very well.

985
00:50:28,000 --> 00:50:30,839
Speaker 1: And so it's tough, and I think that's understandably hard

986
00:50:30,920 --> 00:50:33,880
Speaker 1: for everyone. But and that's that sort of complicates the

987
00:50:33,920 --> 00:50:36,160
Speaker 1: whole thing. And was that your first real breakup? It

988
00:50:36,239 --> 00:50:38,279
Speaker 1: was my first relationship, first breakup, and I think that

989
00:50:38,400 --> 00:50:41,239
Speaker 1: it was his third. So it was like hard for

990
00:50:41,360 --> 00:50:45,239
Speaker 1: me in a way that maybe wasn't not to say

991
00:50:45,280 --> 00:50:46,960
Speaker 1: that it wasn't hard for him, but it was just like,

992
00:50:47,520 --> 00:50:50,960
Speaker 1: you know, that complicated things because my first time understanding

993
00:50:51,000 --> 00:50:53,279
Speaker 1: what it's like because whenever my friends had broken up

994
00:50:53,280 --> 00:50:54,600
Speaker 1: with someone, I had always been like, oh my god,

995
00:50:54,680 --> 00:50:56,920
Speaker 1: get over it, like bounce back. And now it's like

996
00:50:57,239 --> 00:50:59,920
Speaker 1: realizing it's like a grief period. I had to her

997
00:51:00,280 --> 00:51:03,120
Speaker 1: my first breakup was really epic and awful. And I

998
00:51:03,120 --> 00:51:04,640
Speaker 1: don't know if you followed me then, but I like,

999
00:51:05,200 --> 00:51:08,200
Speaker 1: like live tweeted the whole thing and was very public

1000
00:51:08,239 --> 00:51:10,279
Speaker 1: about it. This was what the ex boyfriend who was

1001
00:51:10,320 --> 00:51:14,120
Speaker 1: on the reality show about Fire Island I remember and

1002
00:51:14,160 --> 00:51:16,320
Speaker 1: then and the Jeffrey is also a Vulture recapper, and

1003
00:51:16,360 --> 00:51:19,960
Speaker 1: then he would gorgeous the Fire Island show. Yeah, it was,

1004
00:51:21,040 --> 00:51:22,680
Speaker 1: it was so amazing. It was, Yeah, it was in

1005
00:51:22,800 --> 00:51:25,160
Speaker 1: retrostered like when I had the breakup this would have

1006
00:51:25,200 --> 00:51:30,640
Speaker 1: been like too, who knows, like ten maybe I love

1007
00:51:30,680 --> 00:51:37,600
Speaker 1: talking about art with you. The breakup online was like

1008
00:51:37,800 --> 00:51:40,080
Speaker 1: so humiliating. I think it's taken me like five years

1009
00:51:40,160 --> 00:51:47,160
Speaker 1: to like like recover my brand. This was six I

1010
00:51:47,239 --> 00:51:49,880
Speaker 1: think six years ago. Yeah, but then I had the

1011
00:51:49,960 --> 00:51:52,640
Speaker 1: boyfriend after him. I was dating when I met Augustus.

1012
00:51:53,000 --> 00:51:54,920
Speaker 1: Oh interesting, but it was a long distance thing. That

1013
00:51:55,040 --> 00:51:57,560
Speaker 1: was with Australian comedian Joel Creasy. I don't know if

1014
00:51:57,560 --> 00:52:00,680
Speaker 1: you guys know him. Um, he might have been jfl

1015
00:52:02,840 --> 00:52:06,160
Speaker 1: jfl um. But I met him in Australia when Cole

1016
00:52:06,200 --> 00:52:09,359
Speaker 1: and I were there doing a gig years before, years ago,

1017
00:52:09,520 --> 00:52:12,000
Speaker 1: and UH came back and was like, for some reason

1018
00:52:12,040 --> 00:52:14,480
Speaker 1: decided because I'm so codependent and had like a good

1019
00:52:14,560 --> 00:52:16,160
Speaker 1: date with this person and it was like, oh, we're

1020
00:52:16,160 --> 00:52:19,319
Speaker 1: going to be boyfriend's long distance from Australia to Los Angeles. Um.

1021
00:52:19,440 --> 00:52:22,480
Speaker 1: And managed to do it for a year, but then

1022
00:52:22,600 --> 00:52:25,840
Speaker 1: he was coming to visit and I met Augustus like

1023
00:52:26,080 --> 00:52:29,160
Speaker 1: two weeks before, and then I tried to keep it

1024
00:52:29,280 --> 00:52:31,359
Speaker 1: going and I didn't want to break up with him

1025
00:52:31,440 --> 00:52:34,239
Speaker 1: and always like too embarrassed and too nervous, so I

1026
00:52:34,320 --> 00:52:37,400
Speaker 1: had him still fly to l A. And then in

1027
00:52:37,560 --> 00:52:41,359
Speaker 1: my sleep Um started talking about Augustus and he woke

1028
00:52:41,440 --> 00:52:44,799
Speaker 1: up the next morning that was like, what, who's Augustus?

1029
00:52:45,560 --> 00:52:48,279
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I know, I don't mean to like, I

1030
00:52:48,400 --> 00:52:50,800
Speaker 1: don't mean to romanticize this. It was kind of magical.

1031
00:52:51,040 --> 00:52:53,120
Speaker 1: It feels like a fucking sex in the city store.

1032
00:52:53,360 --> 00:52:55,640
Speaker 1: Yes it does. And then get this ship so crazy.

1033
00:52:55,840 --> 00:52:58,000
Speaker 1: So then Aggie and I we you know, we get married,

1034
00:52:58,040 --> 00:53:01,680
Speaker 1: and then we're on our honeymoon in Mexico this summer

1035
00:53:02,040 --> 00:53:03,880
Speaker 1: and we're on a beach in Salilida, which is a

1036
00:53:03,920 --> 00:53:06,200
Speaker 1: beautiful little place. It's also um, we went there because

1037
00:53:06,239 --> 00:53:09,600
Speaker 1: Serbriena Jolie suggested it's where they met the donor sperm

1038
00:53:09,680 --> 00:53:12,319
Speaker 1: donor of their adorable baby Wolfee. I don't know if

1039
00:53:12,360 --> 00:53:15,160
Speaker 1: you follow his adorable nous. Um anyway, so we went there,

1040
00:53:15,160 --> 00:53:18,200
Speaker 1: amazing place you highly recommended. Um. We're sitting on this

1041
00:53:18,400 --> 00:53:20,520
Speaker 1: little beach that we found that we like hiked over to.

1042
00:53:20,760 --> 00:53:24,200
Speaker 1: We've met these two groovy Australians. Um, we're all sharing

1043
00:53:24,239 --> 00:53:26,799
Speaker 1: a joint and then it's like, okay, we're all gonna

1044
00:53:26,840 --> 00:53:32,640
Speaker 1: read and then she pulls out my ex boyfriends newly

1045
00:53:32,719 --> 00:53:37,960
Speaker 1: released memoir with a chapter about me dumping him for

1046
00:53:38,200 --> 00:53:44,760
Speaker 1: Augustus ship. So like on this tiny, tiny beach in Mexico,

1047
00:53:45,280 --> 00:53:48,160
Speaker 1: someone has come from a from Australia with an Australian

1048
00:53:48,239 --> 00:53:52,600
Speaker 1: published book with eight full like six pages that I

1049
00:53:52,840 --> 00:53:54,960
Speaker 1: I read before to make sure like he was very

1050
00:53:55,040 --> 00:53:58,800
Speaker 1: nice and um yeah yeah sure um and I was

1051
00:53:58,920 --> 00:54:01,360
Speaker 1: also I was supposed to help sucking ghost write the book,

1052
00:54:02,360 --> 00:54:04,719
Speaker 1: um before we broke up. So everything about it was

1053
00:54:04,760 --> 00:54:08,360
Speaker 1: so crazy and so then he, uh, she's she's reading

1054
00:54:08,480 --> 00:54:10,360
Speaker 1: the she she's reading the book, and I was like,

1055
00:54:10,800 --> 00:54:12,279
Speaker 1: you know that you're about to get to a chapter

1056
00:54:12,360 --> 00:54:14,440
Speaker 1: about how I'm a horrible person. But in the end

1057
00:54:15,040 --> 00:54:17,400
Speaker 1: you'll see how we meet my husband and I and

1058
00:54:17,480 --> 00:54:22,399
Speaker 1: it was a beautiful thing. Isn't that bizarre saying it's

1059
00:54:22,520 --> 00:54:25,640
Speaker 1: so funked up? How like everything the world is too small?

1060
00:54:25,920 --> 00:54:31,000
Speaker 1: Too small, too small? I mean, but I mean, but

1061
00:54:31,160 --> 00:54:34,800
Speaker 1: aren't we sort of like didn't we sort of ask

1062
00:54:34,880 --> 00:54:36,839
Speaker 1: for this in a way where it's like we've we've

1063
00:54:37,000 --> 00:54:40,799
Speaker 1: we've wanted to make ourselves visible, and so when when

1064
00:54:40,840 --> 00:54:42,680
Speaker 1: we do have these moments where our personal lives are

1065
00:54:42,719 --> 00:54:44,640
Speaker 1: sort of like thrown back at us, like from It

1066
00:54:44,960 --> 00:54:47,520
Speaker 1: is interesting because it's like, I mean, I'm not someone

1067
00:54:47,560 --> 00:54:50,480
Speaker 1: who's ever wanted attention. I've never done anything to try

1068
00:54:50,520 --> 00:54:56,560
Speaker 1: to seek attention by any by any means know, but like, yeah,

1069
00:54:56,600 --> 00:54:58,640
Speaker 1: it's like when you're like trying to like make it

1070
00:54:58,840 --> 00:55:01,000
Speaker 1: and make it, you know, make yourself like a famous

1071
00:55:01,080 --> 00:55:04,160
Speaker 1: person and doing what you do. You then when you

1072
00:55:04,239 --> 00:55:06,480
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, like actually someone actually gives a

1073
00:55:06,520 --> 00:55:09,080
Speaker 1: ship about your personal life, you get really weird about

1074
00:55:09,680 --> 00:55:12,400
Speaker 1: you're I mean, so imagine being like super duper famous,

1075
00:55:12,560 --> 00:55:16,279
Speaker 1: like imagine being like Jennifer Aniston or something. I mean,

1076
00:55:16,640 --> 00:55:18,960
Speaker 1: we don't have to worry about that at least I don't.

1077
00:55:19,239 --> 00:55:22,640
Speaker 1: I mean you never, I'll never never. You don't know

1078
00:55:22,840 --> 00:55:25,600
Speaker 1: that though, I don't know that. But the thing is

1079
00:55:25,880 --> 00:55:28,040
Speaker 1: like you like like you and a remake of In

1080
00:55:28,160 --> 00:55:30,600
Speaker 1: Her Shoes? I think you're going to be my day

1081
00:55:31,680 --> 00:55:34,239
Speaker 1: A little came. I think, actually, if we should do

1082
00:55:34,320 --> 00:55:39,480
Speaker 1: a remake of is in Her Shoes? Is even Annison

1083
00:55:39,560 --> 00:55:46,239
Speaker 1: in that rumor has it is a crazy movie. I

1084
00:55:46,239 --> 00:55:48,520
Speaker 1: don't know how did it get me? Every literally I'm

1085
00:55:48,520 --> 00:55:49,919
Speaker 1: sure that's been on. How did it get me? Jordan

1086
00:55:49,920 --> 00:55:53,440
Speaker 1: and I watched it once and every other line was

1087
00:55:53,640 --> 00:55:58,000
Speaker 1: somehow something about how amazing Pasadena is. Literally it would

1088
00:55:58,000 --> 00:56:00,359
Speaker 1: be like blah blah blah blah blah blah blah. There's

1089
00:56:00,440 --> 00:56:03,879
Speaker 1: nothing like passaging like every other line in the whole

1090
00:56:03,880 --> 00:56:05,360
Speaker 1: time long of you and Jordan been friends? Are you

1091
00:56:05,400 --> 00:56:07,680
Speaker 1: guys best friends forever? Um? We are, really I would

1092
00:56:07,680 --> 00:56:10,200
Speaker 1: consider one of my best fees. Um. He and I

1093
00:56:10,600 --> 00:56:13,239
Speaker 1: became friends probably only like four or five years ago.

1094
00:56:13,520 --> 00:56:15,799
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, that it feels like a decade and a half.

1095
00:56:15,880 --> 00:56:19,839
Speaker 1: Ye know. Now we like Matt and clicks really quickly. Yeah,

1096
00:56:19,920 --> 00:56:22,759
Speaker 1: so brilliantly. Um, we're going over to go He's coming

1097
00:56:22,800 --> 00:56:25,200
Speaker 1: with Uggy and I in Charles to the UK for

1098
00:56:25,239 --> 00:56:32,120
Speaker 1: the holidays. Were in good content aggies from London. Uh,

1099
00:56:32,239 --> 00:56:33,680
Speaker 1: And we're gonna go to London for a few days.

1100
00:56:33,680 --> 00:56:37,120
Speaker 1: But his parents recently retired and moved to the countryside.

1101
00:56:37,200 --> 00:56:41,160
Speaker 1: Oh I love that wilk show. I have to say,

1102
00:56:41,200 --> 00:56:43,080
Speaker 1: I think that that sounds like a very good vibe

1103
00:56:43,160 --> 00:56:45,600
Speaker 1: you Jordan and Brian are doing as together. I don't

1104
00:56:45,640 --> 00:56:47,560
Speaker 1: know Brian, well, I've met Brian once, but I feel

1105
00:56:47,560 --> 00:56:52,279
Speaker 1: like and I like him though. He's one of the

1106
00:56:52,360 --> 00:56:55,239
Speaker 1: great guys. Everything I've heard about from him about people

1107
00:56:55,280 --> 00:56:58,160
Speaker 1: that work with him, and like he's a genuinely like

1108
00:56:58,560 --> 00:57:02,600
Speaker 1: good person, doesn't have like a like bitchy, mean spirited

1109
00:57:02,680 --> 00:57:05,359
Speaker 1: side like I do, or like so many people I'm

1110
00:57:05,400 --> 00:57:07,480
Speaker 1: friends with you. He has a warm energy. He has

1111
00:57:07,520 --> 00:57:12,680
Speaker 1: a very very warm energy. We were nervous to and he,

1112
00:57:12,840 --> 00:57:16,320
Speaker 1: Aaron and us. We were all in the same dressing

1113
00:57:16,400 --> 00:57:17,880
Speaker 1: room and it was like this moment of like two

1114
00:57:17,920 --> 00:57:19,600
Speaker 1: and a half minutes bent by where no one said

1115
00:57:19,600 --> 00:57:24,480
Speaker 1: anything and we were like the same time. But it

1116
00:57:24,600 --> 00:57:27,600
Speaker 1: was so nice. Did you read Aaron's book? I want

1117
00:57:27,680 --> 00:57:30,800
Speaker 1: you so bad? I have not read it just came out. Yeah,

1118
00:57:30,800 --> 00:57:33,120
Speaker 1: it came out about a month ago. That covers amazing.

1119
00:57:33,200 --> 00:57:35,240
Speaker 1: I listened to the audio book and I cannot recommend

1120
00:57:35,280 --> 00:57:37,000
Speaker 1: it enough. I'm going to do the audio because I

1121
00:57:37,040 --> 00:57:38,640
Speaker 1: want to hear her read it. It's She's great. And

1122
00:57:38,720 --> 00:57:41,240
Speaker 1: also Guy Brandam's audio book was amazing if you listen

1123
00:57:41,280 --> 00:57:44,800
Speaker 1: to it. Read the audio book was I mean the

1124
00:57:44,840 --> 00:57:47,680
Speaker 1: book as well, it's so good. I think that there's

1125
00:57:47,720 --> 00:57:49,880
Speaker 1: something to that. And also maybe they're just they feel

1126
00:57:49,880 --> 00:57:53,040
Speaker 1: like totally different experiences. Like I remember, like um reading

1127
00:57:53,120 --> 00:57:55,480
Speaker 1: Bossy Pants like obsessively when it first came out, and

1128
00:57:55,560 --> 00:57:58,600
Speaker 1: then like hearing her perform the book, it was just like, oh,

1129
00:57:58,680 --> 00:58:02,000
Speaker 1: this is I love an audio book. Wait, but speaking

1130
00:58:02,000 --> 00:58:04,040
Speaker 1: of which, okay, so so you just being on the

1131
00:58:04,040 --> 00:58:05,919
Speaker 1: speech and finding out that this whole chapter is about

1132
00:58:05,920 --> 00:58:09,360
Speaker 1: you is so tripping insane. Does this go in your book?

1133
00:58:09,400 --> 00:58:12,160
Speaker 1: You have to write as I want to write, like

1134
00:58:12,280 --> 00:58:15,120
Speaker 1: an essays book, but like it's harder to do that,

1135
00:58:15,400 --> 00:58:17,320
Speaker 1: Like the y books were easy, like more easy to

1136
00:58:17,440 --> 00:58:20,919
Speaker 1: sell for some to sell, but to right to write.

1137
00:58:21,000 --> 00:58:23,560
Speaker 1: I feel like I could, but I'm so lazy that again,

1138
00:58:23,680 --> 00:58:26,480
Speaker 1: it's lazy. You've published two books, but only because I

1139
00:58:26,520 --> 00:58:29,120
Speaker 1: got paid to do it without getting I have a

1140
00:58:29,160 --> 00:58:31,840
Speaker 1: hard time writing things on spec Okay, but I mean

1141
00:58:31,880 --> 00:58:34,439
Speaker 1: I hear you. It's a memoir. Is a memoir of Yeah,

1142
00:58:34,440 --> 00:58:35,520
Speaker 1: I guess you can see you know what I mean.

1143
00:58:35,800 --> 00:58:37,960
Speaker 1: But I mean, you're a proven quantity as a as

1144
00:58:38,000 --> 00:58:41,320
Speaker 1: a writer because you've been you're published author. That's true. Yeah,

1145
00:58:41,520 --> 00:58:44,280
Speaker 1: I think I will do that at some point. Please um.

1146
00:58:44,360 --> 00:58:48,000
Speaker 1: I would definitely like to um. But but yeah, it's

1147
00:58:48,040 --> 00:58:50,040
Speaker 1: hard to like actually motivate yourself to do it when

1148
00:58:50,040 --> 00:58:52,200
Speaker 1: you're like, well I even sell this though, but you

1149
00:58:52,320 --> 00:58:54,600
Speaker 1: but they're just has to has to be a chapter

1150
00:58:54,800 --> 00:58:58,280
Speaker 1: on that. Yes, absolutely crazy, so crazy. It was the

1151
00:58:58,480 --> 00:59:02,120
Speaker 1: strangest straight just thing. Oh my god. Yeah, that sounds

1152
00:59:02,200 --> 00:59:05,120
Speaker 1: that sounds like a real moment. It's like I wouldn't

1153
00:59:05,160 --> 00:59:07,160
Speaker 1: know how to explain it in my head. As she

1154
00:59:07,280 --> 00:59:10,479
Speaker 1: pulled the book out of it back, Oh my god.

1155
00:59:10,880 --> 00:59:14,440
Speaker 1: Then and then the couple and my husband well fucked

1156
00:59:14,560 --> 00:59:20,400
Speaker 1: right on the beach. Wait literally was like like cool,

1157
00:59:20,720 --> 00:59:24,920
Speaker 1: It was like amazing, how beautiful. That's art. That's art.

1158
00:59:25,120 --> 00:59:27,280
Speaker 1: I love talking about art with you, guys. Love talking

1159
00:59:27,320 --> 00:59:30,480
Speaker 1: about art. Speaking art. Back to art Chat. Art Chat

1160
00:59:30,640 --> 00:59:34,360
Speaker 1: is the title of Yes but speaking of art. Go

1161
00:59:34,400 --> 00:59:36,360
Speaker 1: ahead and ask the ques Jeffrey. Okay, we asked this

1162
00:59:36,480 --> 00:59:39,480
Speaker 1: question all our guests. What is the culture growing up

1163
00:59:39,560 --> 00:59:41,960
Speaker 1: that made you say culture is for me? Matt, can

1164
00:59:42,000 --> 00:59:43,800
Speaker 1: you explain the question? So this is like a piece

1165
00:59:43,840 --> 00:59:47,720
Speaker 1: of pop culture, whether it be a film, uh, musical artists,

1166
00:59:47,840 --> 00:59:50,480
Speaker 1: something that you experienced in the pop culture lexicon that

1167
00:59:50,600 --> 00:59:52,640
Speaker 1: like you feel when you look back, you're like, yeah,

1168
00:59:52,680 --> 00:59:54,280
Speaker 1: that set me on a course or defined me in

1169
00:59:54,320 --> 00:59:56,640
Speaker 1: a way. Okay, I would probably say can I say

1170
00:59:56,680 --> 00:59:58,840
Speaker 1: two things? You can you can say three, you can

1171
00:59:58,880 --> 01:00:01,400
Speaker 1: say four. There's no fucking rules. Number one, death becomes

1172
01:00:01,440 --> 01:00:05,360
Speaker 1: her very like I think like the death becomes her

1173
01:00:05,440 --> 01:00:12,760
Speaker 1: like a dark comedy. Um, you know, incredible female strong performances. Um.

1174
01:00:13,120 --> 01:00:16,120
Speaker 1: Just the entire aesthetic of like the l A of

1175
01:00:16,200 --> 01:00:18,080
Speaker 1: it all, the Hollywood of it all, the New York

1176
01:00:18,200 --> 01:00:21,800
Speaker 1: musical theater of it all, elements of competition. I think

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01:00:21,840 --> 01:00:25,800
Speaker 1: it's competitive. Yes, I mean we all have our own

1178
01:00:25,880 --> 01:00:30,080
Speaker 1: Madeline Ashton. Uh, that was very very intro. That's the

1179
01:00:30,120 --> 01:00:33,880
Speaker 1: culture for me. And then the Rosie o'donald Show. Absolutely, yeah,

1180
01:00:34,360 --> 01:00:37,080
Speaker 1: Rosie o'donald Show was bigger for all of us than

1181
01:00:37,160 --> 01:00:39,640
Speaker 1: we can even realize because that actually introduced us to

1182
01:00:39,800 --> 01:00:43,360
Speaker 1: so much that just flew over. It was so it

1183
01:00:43,480 --> 01:00:48,880
Speaker 1: was so inherently gay without being gay. It really was.

1184
01:00:49,040 --> 01:00:51,680
Speaker 1: It captured like the city I wanted to move to

1185
01:00:51,800 --> 01:00:54,240
Speaker 1: in the world I wanted to be in without even

1186
01:00:54,360 --> 01:00:57,200
Speaker 1: really knowing it. Rosie o'donald for me is like I

1187
01:00:57,280 --> 01:00:59,520
Speaker 1: don't know if we've ever talked about this, I'm I'm

1188
01:00:59,600 --> 01:01:03,240
Speaker 1: obsession with nothing more than that. Like roseo donald is

1189
01:01:03,280 --> 01:01:06,560
Speaker 1: my number one obsession. Rosie is anything else. If if

1190
01:01:06,640 --> 01:01:09,640
Speaker 1: her name, if no matter what it is, if she's involved,

1191
01:01:09,720 --> 01:01:13,360
Speaker 1: if it's an article, a movie, an episode, whatever. I

1192
01:01:13,440 --> 01:01:15,720
Speaker 1: will I have both Christmas albums. I will do anything.

1193
01:01:15,960 --> 01:01:18,440
Speaker 1: My favorite show is The View. Sure I've heard of it,

1194
01:01:18,840 --> 01:01:22,080
Speaker 1: And when Rosie peeks into the View, like because every

1195
01:01:22,120 --> 01:01:26,040
Speaker 1: ten years she's like a, yeah, it's never better than woman. Never.

1196
01:01:26,240 --> 01:01:30,760
Speaker 1: Oh don't understand even the negative aspects of the View.

1197
01:01:30,960 --> 01:01:34,360
Speaker 1: You need that. Oh, yes, Rosie on the View is

1198
01:01:34,640 --> 01:01:39,040
Speaker 1: unprecedented television unprecedented. You know. She she uh co filled

1199
01:01:39,080 --> 01:01:40,960
Speaker 1: in or whatever for Julie chen the other day on

1200
01:01:44,280 --> 01:01:45,800
Speaker 1: you to that period when like I think it was

1201
01:01:45,880 --> 01:01:48,000
Speaker 1: right after Julie Chennett like officially left the Talk and

1202
01:01:48,680 --> 01:01:51,040
Speaker 1: they were bringing in all the different co host or whatever,

1203
01:01:51,160 --> 01:01:55,840
Speaker 1: but it was the day of the Kavanaugh hearing and

1204
01:01:55,920 --> 01:01:59,800
Speaker 1: so beautiful. Yeah, and no one got to see it,

1205
01:02:00,200 --> 01:02:04,760
Speaker 1: which I think says a lot that Yeah, that certainly

1206
01:02:05,160 --> 01:02:08,960
Speaker 1: didn't air. She's always been right about everything, and she's

1207
01:02:09,000 --> 01:02:12,920
Speaker 1: always yes, I agree, and she's always always always just

1208
01:02:13,120 --> 01:02:19,240
Speaker 1: like been like unapologetically uh flawed and like broken and

1209
01:02:19,320 --> 01:02:21,920
Speaker 1: I love that. Um. But the thing about the Rosia

1210
01:02:22,000 --> 01:02:24,960
Speaker 1: Donald Show being this very queer thing that a lot

1211
01:02:25,000 --> 01:02:27,960
Speaker 1: of people don't give it credit for. It is huge

1212
01:02:28,120 --> 01:02:31,920
Speaker 1: because think about like fucking even having Sutton Foster on

1213
01:02:32,080 --> 01:02:36,440
Speaker 1: doing all the time she had John Cameron Mitchell on

1214
01:02:36,520 --> 01:02:40,240
Speaker 1: promoting head vag and Ingry and off Broadway and like explain.

1215
01:02:40,280 --> 01:02:42,560
Speaker 1: You can find the clip on YouTube. It's fascinating. And

1216
01:02:42,600 --> 01:02:44,840
Speaker 1: she's trying. She's like explaining the show and she's not

1217
01:02:44,920 --> 01:02:47,640
Speaker 1: even out at this point. She's explaining the show to

1218
01:02:47,800 --> 01:02:51,280
Speaker 1: this you know, very very mainstream America audience and they're

1219
01:02:51,320 --> 01:02:53,960
Speaker 1: like laughing. They like laugh at some point about like

1220
01:02:54,400 --> 01:02:57,560
Speaker 1: the description of the show, and she like stops and

1221
01:02:57,600 --> 01:03:00,400
Speaker 1: it's like open your minds for God's sake, is like

1222
01:03:00,520 --> 01:03:04,720
Speaker 1: a piece of art art, but it's it's so interesting

1223
01:03:04,760 --> 01:03:07,600
Speaker 1: to watch. There's so many moments like that, like she

1224
01:03:07,800 --> 01:03:10,720
Speaker 1: with Sandra Bernhard sheet with all of her like this was,

1225
01:03:10,920 --> 01:03:16,040
Speaker 1: you know, for life to begin an iconic She would

1226
01:03:16,080 --> 01:03:18,560
Speaker 1: have people on also like that we're like doing shows

1227
01:03:18,600 --> 01:03:21,720
Speaker 1: at the Duplex no joke and be like, Okay, this

1228
01:03:21,800 --> 01:03:24,600
Speaker 1: woman is doing like a ethel Merman tribute show at

1229
01:03:24,600 --> 01:03:27,720
Speaker 1: the Duplex tonight, go see And then like on the

1230
01:03:27,840 --> 01:03:31,680
Speaker 1: most that was the biggest show on daytime. Crazy and yeah,

1231
01:03:31,920 --> 01:03:34,360
Speaker 1: sucking Sandra even was she doing like ours Nova Ship

1232
01:03:34,440 --> 01:03:36,760
Speaker 1: at the time. It was like post at Sandra being like,

1233
01:03:36,880 --> 01:03:39,680
Speaker 1: you know, the big letterman guest and it was like

1234
01:03:39,760 --> 01:03:42,560
Speaker 1: her career like dip down a bit and like, but

1235
01:03:42,840 --> 01:03:45,040
Speaker 1: it was all those kind of people that were that

1236
01:03:45,160 --> 01:03:47,040
Speaker 1: she'd have on that. We're the first time I ever

1237
01:03:47,120 --> 01:03:49,680
Speaker 1: experienced any of those people. And also Rosie. What I

1238
01:03:49,760 --> 01:03:55,040
Speaker 1: love about Rosie is she loved the stuff. She loved,

1239
01:03:55,520 --> 01:03:57,640
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, No one loves anything more

1240
01:03:57,840 --> 01:04:01,520
Speaker 1: than she. Unapologetic she when she when she discovered Harry Potter.

1241
01:04:01,960 --> 01:04:07,160
Speaker 1: Basically she was fucking in like the survivor Survivor. The

1242
01:04:07,200 --> 01:04:10,480
Speaker 1: episode when J. K. Rowling came on Rosie's that was

1243
01:04:10,560 --> 01:04:15,080
Speaker 1: huge and I'll never forget when she started weeping. But

1244
01:04:15,240 --> 01:04:21,680
Speaker 1: even before Barbara, I just want to say that curtain,

1245
01:04:21,800 --> 01:04:25,280
Speaker 1: it's like my own mother. It's the most beautiful thing.

1246
01:04:25,960 --> 01:04:27,640
Speaker 1: All those clips are online. You should watch the whole thing.

1247
01:04:27,720 --> 01:04:29,120
Speaker 1: Why don't they I don't know why they don't just

1248
01:04:29,200 --> 01:04:31,080
Speaker 1: put the whole thing like out that you could buy

1249
01:04:31,160 --> 01:04:33,840
Speaker 1: the same with Oprah, like on iTunes. It's a it

1250
01:04:33,880 --> 01:04:36,520
Speaker 1: should be available to cry in shame. There's a great

1251
01:04:36,600 --> 01:04:39,320
Speaker 1: DVD though, of the Rosie o Donald Show Season one,

1252
01:04:39,480 --> 01:04:42,640
Speaker 1: Rosie Looking Back, and it's they basically all the best

1253
01:04:42,680 --> 01:04:44,720
Speaker 1: clips of season one, and it's like Rosie and like

1254
01:04:44,920 --> 01:04:49,200
Speaker 1: sweats and like barefoot, sitting in like an armchair, cross legs,

1255
01:04:49,720 --> 01:04:52,760
Speaker 1: um like watching the clips and like giving you like

1256
01:04:52,880 --> 01:04:57,200
Speaker 1: backstage behind the scenes kind of like uh, descriptions of

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Speaker 1: what happened in stories, and she's taking it really seriously

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Speaker 1: and she's really or an estant. It's great. It's so crazy.

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Speaker 1: I think the I think it's actually pretty similar to

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Speaker 1: Hillary honestly, the way the public feels about Rosie I

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Speaker 1: because she's been so tainted by the I mean, my mother,

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Speaker 1: my own mother even said, like before before we all

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Speaker 1: kind of woke up like that six or seven years ago,

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Speaker 1: I'll never forget. My mom said, like, I love Rosie,

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Speaker 1: but I don't know. She seems really opinionated lately, and

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Speaker 1: it's the thing that seeps into the public consciousness that

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Speaker 1: women aren't supposed to to speak out, aren't supposed to

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Speaker 1: have strong opinions, and when she had a strong, like

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Speaker 1: liberal opinion, it turned people off, especially someone who was

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Speaker 1: beloved by mainstream media. And not only that, but like

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Speaker 1: I think news organizations and like uh you know, like networks,

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Speaker 1: they get angry at you when you are divisive or opinionated,

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Speaker 1: because your don't appeal to everyone in their reading ratings

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Speaker 1: get bad. And so she was totally thrown under the

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Speaker 1: bush and she and she turned down like an insane

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Speaker 1: amount of money, and I think it really pissed because

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Speaker 1: they wanted her to keep doing that show. She really

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Speaker 1: did like four or five seasons, and then they offered her,

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Speaker 1: I think, like a hundred million dollars to do two

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Speaker 1: more seasons, and she was like, I don't need, like,

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Speaker 1: I already have so much money. I've just made so

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Speaker 1: much money. I'm not doing it. And I think like

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Speaker 1: within that world of like the corporate old men who

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Speaker 1: run everything like they were really, I think that like

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Speaker 1: was such a slap in the face to everything that

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Speaker 1: they think matters. Uh. She Yeah, She's fascinating. If you've

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Speaker 1: never read either of her books Find Me or Celebrity

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Speaker 1: d Talks. Find Me is this amazing book that was

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Speaker 1: during the Rosio Donald Show where this woman basically contacted

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Speaker 1: her adoption nonprofit a like company h and I was

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Speaker 1: saying she was a pregnant teen and needed help and

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Speaker 1: Dad dada, and then basically Rosie got very involved in

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Speaker 1: trying to help this kid and it realizes this isn't

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Speaker 1: a spoiler. This is with the books about that the

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01:06:49,040 --> 01:06:53,040
Speaker 1: person has is multiple personalities and its contacting her as

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01:06:53,080 --> 01:06:55,400
Speaker 1: like five She's like five different people she's talking to.

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Speaker 1: Are this the same person? Yeah? And like she got

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01:06:58,800 --> 01:07:01,880
Speaker 1: so involved she like this person to New York. I'm

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Speaker 1: assuming they're probably still in touch. It's a beautiful story.

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01:07:04,840 --> 01:07:07,520
Speaker 1: And then the Celebrity Detox book is about when she

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Speaker 1: left The View and it's about like deciding to there's

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Speaker 1: no I mean the fight between Rosie and Elizabeth on

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01:07:15,720 --> 01:07:22,640
Speaker 1: the View. That's a moment forever and you can see Rosie, Yes,

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01:07:22,840 --> 01:07:26,040
Speaker 1: that's foot screen and you it's just this moment of

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01:07:26,160 --> 01:07:29,680
Speaker 1: like it's real path those it's it's and and Elizabeth.

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01:07:29,800 --> 01:07:33,280
Speaker 1: You can see the moment Elizabeth deciding to be who

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Speaker 1: yes and and they? She had even said Rosie said, like,

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01:07:37,520 --> 01:07:40,240
Speaker 1: you know, I took Elizabeth to her first Broadway show.

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01:07:40,680 --> 01:07:43,880
Speaker 1: I really tried with her. And in that moment, Elizabeth

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01:07:43,960 --> 01:07:46,439
Speaker 1: really threw her under the bus. And when Rosie said

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Speaker 1: she was cowardly, like that came from her soul, Like

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01:07:49,640 --> 01:07:51,800
Speaker 1: and that's you only get that on our show. Like

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01:07:51,920 --> 01:07:55,240
Speaker 1: that view the views, but is it it's the best,

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01:07:55,600 --> 01:07:58,920
Speaker 1: but it's not great anymore. Well, I actually think it's

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01:07:58,960 --> 01:08:03,920
Speaker 1: having a little bit of anis. However, I think the

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01:08:04,000 --> 01:08:06,040
Speaker 1: fact that things are going so well right now at

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01:08:06,080 --> 01:08:10,120
Speaker 1: the show is not necessarily what we need from the show.

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01:08:10,360 --> 01:08:13,880
Speaker 1: We need conflict and we need someone. I think they

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01:08:14,040 --> 01:08:16,200
Speaker 1: thought so that Megan McCain was going to shake it

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Speaker 1: up more than than she has. But the fact of

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01:08:18,920 --> 01:08:22,639
Speaker 1: the matter is Megan McCain, while she's conservative, she's also

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01:08:23,160 --> 01:08:30,000
Speaker 1: reasonable and she's a friend to many liberals. They am No,

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01:08:30,120 --> 01:08:33,160
Speaker 1: I'm not saying that. I'm saying that something. And Abby

1324
01:08:33,240 --> 01:08:36,800
Speaker 1: Huntsman actually is pretty moderate. I actually don't. I mean,

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01:08:36,920 --> 01:08:38,880
Speaker 1: I hate Tommy Lauren and I you know, it's such

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01:08:38,920 --> 01:08:42,120
Speaker 1: a conflict conflicted thing to think like it should you

1327
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Speaker 1: give her that platform? But there is something about like

1328
01:08:45,160 --> 01:08:48,240
Speaker 1: getting to see Whoopie Goldberg explain how the funk the

1329
01:08:48,280 --> 01:08:51,240
Speaker 1: world actually works on a daily basis, And I think

1330
01:08:51,320 --> 01:08:54,320
Speaker 1: what happens is I think they the conservative on the show,

1331
01:08:54,400 --> 01:08:56,639
Speaker 1: and this is just kind of true. They've always been.

1332
01:08:57,760 --> 01:09:00,960
Speaker 1: They've always been kind of an idiot like Hastleback. She

1333
01:09:01,120 --> 01:09:04,240
Speaker 1: always needed her fucking copious pieces of papers printed out

1334
01:09:04,280 --> 01:09:09,080
Speaker 1: of Megan McCain is just very smart and like educated

1335
01:09:09,120 --> 01:09:11,160
Speaker 1: about the kind of things that she is educated about.

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01:09:11,160 --> 01:09:12,880
Speaker 1: I think some of her opinions are a little fun,

1337
01:09:13,640 --> 01:09:15,599
Speaker 1: but she's also an idiot about the things that she's

1338
01:09:15,720 --> 01:09:19,479
Speaker 1: not I would agree with like Michelle, a friend of

1339
01:09:19,520 --> 01:09:21,519
Speaker 1: the show, Michelle Collins will tell you that, yes that

1340
01:09:22,400 --> 01:09:27,080
Speaker 1: Michelle Collins, one of the truest icons of arist icons,

1341
01:09:27,120 --> 01:09:29,479
Speaker 1: was robbed and also this was robbed. This campaign of

1342
01:09:29,560 --> 01:09:33,920
Speaker 1: her taking Megan Kelly's slot is well, there's no bigger

1343
01:09:34,040 --> 01:09:36,880
Speaker 1: idiot than Megan Kelly, because the thing about Megan Kelly

1344
01:09:37,000 --> 01:09:39,000
Speaker 1: is she's not even smart enough to be aware of

1345
01:09:39,080 --> 01:09:42,360
Speaker 1: that she is a racist. So it's like, you are

1346
01:09:42,400 --> 01:09:44,800
Speaker 1: a racist. You know what, Queen, you are a RACI

1347
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Speaker 1: you happened. She is very good history of all. She's

1348
01:09:49,640 --> 01:09:55,680
Speaker 1: a very good Fox News interrogative prosecutorial reporter. She was

1349
01:09:56,080 --> 01:10:00,400
Speaker 1: very good at remaining com while stirring the hot on

1350
01:10:00,520 --> 01:10:02,720
Speaker 1: her guests and getting them upset and being like, well,

1351
01:10:02,800 --> 01:10:05,880
Speaker 1: you look ridiculous by She's very good at Fox News

1352
01:10:05,960 --> 01:10:09,720
Speaker 1: type journalism. But she is the opposite of warm. The

1353
01:10:09,880 --> 01:10:12,800
Speaker 1: idea that she was ever going to succeed on as

1354
01:10:12,880 --> 01:10:17,160
Speaker 1: in a morning show capacity is ridiculous. And didn't they

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01:10:17,240 --> 01:10:20,240
Speaker 1: Did they shorten Kathy Leonhoda for her? Or was that

1356
01:10:20,320 --> 01:10:23,960
Speaker 1: a different slot? Um, it was a different slot. They

1357
01:10:24,040 --> 01:10:26,320
Speaker 1: just but I can't believe that the Today's Show would

1358
01:10:26,320 --> 01:10:29,080
Speaker 1: be so dumb as to give an entire hour to her.

1359
01:10:29,280 --> 01:10:32,240
Speaker 1: I think NBC News is someone needs to be fired

1360
01:10:32,280 --> 01:10:36,519
Speaker 1: over that. But she's officially out right, it's officially canceled,

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01:10:37,000 --> 01:10:40,360
Speaker 1: and she will have a different She's being brought out

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01:10:40,680 --> 01:10:45,000
Speaker 1: all unconfirmed. Well we should say this is gonna come

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01:10:45,000 --> 01:10:47,799
Speaker 1: out later. As of this moment in time, it's unconfirmed

1364
01:10:47,840 --> 01:10:50,839
Speaker 1: what's going to happen to her. The latest um report

1365
01:10:50,920 --> 01:10:53,280
Speaker 1: from NBC News is that she's still currently an employee

1366
01:10:53,280 --> 01:10:55,960
Speaker 1: of NBC News, But there are obviously lots of leaks

1367
01:10:56,000 --> 01:10:58,040
Speaker 1: and discussions about how she's being brought out of this

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01:10:58,600 --> 01:11:02,519
Speaker 1: seventy million dollar Her deal is so fu it was huge,

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01:11:02,600 --> 01:11:05,120
Speaker 1: and I'm like, what Rosie Rosy turned out a hundred?

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Speaker 1: Rosy turned down a hundred, y'all. It's just like, I

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01:11:08,200 --> 01:11:10,800
Speaker 1: don't know, I don't know, guys. I stopped trusting Megan

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01:11:10,880 --> 01:11:14,360
Speaker 1: Kelly when she said Jesus was white and Santa was

1373
01:11:14,520 --> 01:11:18,080
Speaker 1: white it's like, what did you think you were getting?

1374
01:11:18,640 --> 01:11:21,400
Speaker 1: The delivery of the Santa one especially, it's just so funny.

1375
01:11:21,439 --> 01:11:26,120
Speaker 1: She's so like but kids Santa just is It's like

1376
01:11:26,600 --> 01:11:34,080
Speaker 1: what kids are watching your show? What kids are kids?

1377
01:11:34,520 --> 01:11:37,280
Speaker 1: It's just so Megan. Megan is the entire Rosie truly,

1378
01:11:37,560 --> 01:11:40,000
Speaker 1: more than more so than Elizabeth. Yeah. I mean, it's

1379
01:11:40,040 --> 01:11:41,599
Speaker 1: just such a shame we don't have, like I want

1380
01:11:41,640 --> 01:11:46,240
Speaker 1: a Rosie like MSNBC Late, like a nighttime show right now.

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01:11:46,320 --> 01:11:48,120
Speaker 1: There was I think I read somewhere that there had

1382
01:11:48,120 --> 01:11:50,160
Speaker 1: been talk of that at one point, but like, well,

1383
01:11:50,200 --> 01:11:52,840
Speaker 1: her health isn't good. Well, I think she's because she

1384
01:11:52,960 --> 01:11:54,640
Speaker 1: had that heart attack. She I think, is like I

1385
01:11:55,000 --> 01:11:58,120
Speaker 1: can't bring myself to get so stressed out. That's why

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01:11:58,240 --> 01:12:01,240
Speaker 1: she left. She sent to you and she did one

1387
01:12:01,320 --> 01:12:03,640
Speaker 1: year and she was like I actually have realized that

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01:12:03,920 --> 01:12:06,360
Speaker 1: this is a stressful show for her, and it wasn't

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Speaker 1: a full year. I think she left. She was she

1390
01:12:08,320 --> 01:12:10,840
Speaker 1: left by Christmas, and you know what, we can't ask

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01:12:10,920 --> 01:12:14,360
Speaker 1: that much of her. But she's engaged. Good, she's getting

1392
01:12:14,400 --> 01:12:19,439
Speaker 1: married again to some like really I think fourth Mary, No, third,

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01:12:19,520 --> 01:12:22,879
Speaker 1: you're right. Third, Yes, there was Kelly and then Michelle

1394
01:12:22,920 --> 01:12:31,439
Speaker 1: who Kelly and Michelle where she is her Beyonce, her

1395
01:12:31,479 --> 01:12:34,960
Speaker 1: new wife is like a really gorgeous police officer in Boston.

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01:12:35,080 --> 01:12:38,400
Speaker 1: They've all been beautiful a Boston. I also think people

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01:12:38,439 --> 01:12:40,840
Speaker 1: get weirded out by Rosie because she's a woman with

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01:12:41,240 --> 01:12:46,080
Speaker 1: masculine like like energy, and I think like that that

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01:12:46,200 --> 01:12:49,080
Speaker 1: I think is what really pisses Donald Trump off about her,

1400
01:12:49,560 --> 01:12:52,200
Speaker 1: is that like he sees parts of like she's an

1401
01:12:52,240 --> 01:12:56,759
Speaker 1: unapologizal but he wants that kind of strength and power

1402
01:12:57,240 --> 01:13:01,160
Speaker 1: and he can't have a Rosie has that. I hate

1403
01:13:01,160 --> 01:13:03,760
Speaker 1: that because he's president and has done this thing in

1404
01:13:03,840 --> 01:13:07,400
Speaker 1: America that there's like of this nation that fucking hates her.

1405
01:13:07,680 --> 01:13:10,439
Speaker 1: So what that must be like to be her right

1406
01:13:10,479 --> 01:13:13,160
Speaker 1: now and be like my bully, my biggest bully in

1407
01:13:13,240 --> 01:13:17,880
Speaker 1: the world. President is the president. It's something I think

1408
01:13:18,120 --> 01:13:21,760
Speaker 1: he is obviously very offended by powerful women who he's

1409
01:13:22,680 --> 01:13:25,280
Speaker 1: never going to Yes, well, that's the thing is there's yeah,

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01:13:25,320 --> 01:13:28,720
Speaker 1: he has no use for her because you know, I

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01:13:28,960 --> 01:13:32,200
Speaker 1: I believe that if well this would never happen. But

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01:13:32,400 --> 01:13:36,719
Speaker 1: I would be nothing more than if Rosie and Donald Trump,

1413
01:13:37,280 --> 01:13:39,360
Speaker 1: I mean that debate would be I thought you said,

1414
01:13:39,760 --> 01:13:41,040
Speaker 1: thought you want to say that they have had sex,

1415
01:13:42,160 --> 01:13:50,240
Speaker 1: I would not. Whatever happened. I was thinking about the

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01:13:50,320 --> 01:13:51,880
Speaker 1: other day, and I was just like, God, what do

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Speaker 1: we have? And then I was thinking, like, of course,

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01:13:54,320 --> 01:13:56,320
Speaker 1: like what the natural thing would be to like want

1419
01:13:56,360 --> 01:13:58,200
Speaker 1: to put a woman up there to like show him

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01:13:58,280 --> 01:14:00,679
Speaker 1: what the funk is? Really? What a way that Hillary

1421
01:14:00,760 --> 01:14:03,720
Speaker 1: never could just because there was so much public decisions

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01:14:03,840 --> 01:14:06,720
Speaker 1: already being made about Hillary and she could never get

1423
01:14:06,760 --> 01:14:09,280
Speaker 1: out from under that. But I was also like, you know,

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01:14:10,000 --> 01:14:11,760
Speaker 1: I don't know. Part of me feels like we do

1425
01:14:11,920 --> 01:14:13,920
Speaker 1: need to put someone on his level up there. And

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01:14:14,040 --> 01:14:18,280
Speaker 1: that's why I was entertained by the Oprah thing, is

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01:14:18,360 --> 01:14:22,320
Speaker 1: that's officially not happening, right, we don't know. She has

1428
01:14:22,360 --> 01:14:24,600
Speaker 1: said no, and you have to believe when she says no.

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01:14:24,760 --> 01:14:27,960
Speaker 1: I do believe Oprah means no. She's starting the book

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01:14:27,960 --> 01:14:30,200
Speaker 1: club again. That's all I'm gonna say. Really, Yeah, she

1431
01:14:30,280 --> 01:14:32,080
Speaker 1: said she was she I think she's she alluded to that.

1432
01:14:32,160 --> 01:14:34,000
Speaker 1: She was like, Oh, if Reese Witherspoon's doing it, I

1433
01:14:34,120 --> 01:14:38,479
Speaker 1: better started. And I love that John is taking race

1434
01:14:38,600 --> 01:14:41,880
Speaker 1: to task on this voting stuff that Rees has not

1435
01:14:42,439 --> 01:14:43,880
Speaker 1: has only done like a bass to get out the

1436
01:14:43,960 --> 01:14:46,360
Speaker 1: vote thing and not has not fully um done the

1437
01:14:46,400 --> 01:14:49,599
Speaker 1: Taylor Swift thing, and like John Early, I just been

1438
01:14:50,600 --> 01:14:53,120
Speaker 1: been being like, hey, can you actually like speak out

1439
01:14:53,120 --> 01:14:55,519
Speaker 1: against Marsha Blackburn and can you actually endorse the Democratic

1440
01:14:55,560 --> 01:14:58,879
Speaker 1: Cannona and Tennessee instead of just doing like fucking milktoast

1441
01:14:58,880 --> 01:15:01,200
Speaker 1: get out the vote chick. Oh, I haven't seen that again,

1442
01:15:01,320 --> 01:15:04,719
Speaker 1: no Twitter, But I'm i'm I'm, I'm, I'm a stranger

1443
01:15:04,800 --> 01:15:08,120
Speaker 1: to all of your opinions. But there you go. I mean,

1444
01:15:08,160 --> 01:15:10,080
Speaker 1: I think, um, what if you came on the show

1445
01:15:10,120 --> 01:15:13,080
Speaker 1: and it was like a conservative podcast. Honestly, I would

1446
01:15:13,080 --> 01:15:16,080
Speaker 1: be very excited. It would it would be real. It

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01:15:16,120 --> 01:15:17,880
Speaker 1: would just be really interesting. It would just be so

1448
01:15:18,280 --> 01:15:22,000
Speaker 1: it would make you guys like even more interesting, Like

1449
01:15:22,160 --> 01:15:24,720
Speaker 1: it would just be like, I need to be what

1450
01:15:24,840 --> 01:15:28,240
Speaker 1: are these guys all about? What are you guys after God?

1451
01:15:28,560 --> 01:15:30,960
Speaker 1: Somewhere out there like that we don't know about. There's

1452
01:15:31,000 --> 01:15:33,680
Speaker 1: a gay or there's a gay version of also us,

1453
01:15:33,760 --> 01:15:35,599
Speaker 1: but their conservatives. I would love to watch. I would

1454
01:15:35,600 --> 01:15:38,640
Speaker 1: watch a scripted show about you guys playing like a

1455
01:15:38,720 --> 01:15:42,760
Speaker 1: conservative like podcast. Write it someone someone right for us.

1456
01:15:42,800 --> 01:15:45,240
Speaker 1: We're not somebody out there. I'm not writing anything on

1457
01:15:45,320 --> 01:15:48,400
Speaker 1: spec I've established that. And as we said, and look

1458
01:15:48,439 --> 01:15:50,040
Speaker 1: and and if and if you hired Jeffrey to a

1459
01:15:50,080 --> 01:15:53,200
Speaker 1: ghost write something for you, then you'll then you'll dat

1460
01:15:53,240 --> 01:15:56,840
Speaker 1: and break up. I'm so sorry. Oh my god, that

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Speaker 1: isn't that just great? I mean, it is like a

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Speaker 1: great it's a great like story. It's such a good story.

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Speaker 1: I can't believe that it's It's just it's the perfect

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01:16:07,040 --> 01:16:11,120
Speaker 1: kind of narrator. And especially after I was so horrifying

1465
01:16:11,320 --> 01:16:14,360
Speaker 1: and humiliating to my ex boyfriend when we when we

1466
01:16:14,520 --> 01:16:18,200
Speaker 1: broke up, like when I was like, it's the it's

1467
01:16:18,240 --> 01:16:21,320
Speaker 1: just the perfect payback. It's just you think you think.

1468
01:16:22,320 --> 01:16:24,720
Speaker 1: I think there's there was definitely some karma to it,

1469
01:16:24,920 --> 01:16:27,560
Speaker 1: for sure, but because I mean, like when I was

1470
01:16:27,680 --> 01:16:30,880
Speaker 1: broke up with my first ex boyfriend, I was so

1471
01:16:31,560 --> 01:16:36,400
Speaker 1: like on hinge on the internet to him and to

1472
01:16:36,560 --> 01:16:39,400
Speaker 1: his guy he started dating right after me. I was

1473
01:16:39,640 --> 01:16:42,120
Speaker 1: so horrible. I think I still can't view his Instagram.

1474
01:16:42,560 --> 01:16:44,640
Speaker 1: I think he somehow blocked like my I P from

1475
01:16:44,720 --> 01:16:47,720
Speaker 1: my phone. I can't. I can't like to look. That's

1476
01:16:47,800 --> 01:16:49,719
Speaker 1: Chris Salvatore. Do you know who he is? I don't

1477
01:16:49,720 --> 01:16:52,320
Speaker 1: want to see the thing is, well, when do you

1478
01:16:52,439 --> 01:16:54,280
Speaker 1: were sort of narrating all this. I did not care

1479
01:16:54,360 --> 01:16:57,280
Speaker 1: for him, Yeah, no, no, no, no. This this was

1480
01:16:57,400 --> 01:16:59,639
Speaker 1: like a time where basically it was like my first

1481
01:16:59,680 --> 01:17:02,200
Speaker 1: boyfrien and it was like the the ex boyfriend who

1482
01:17:02,240 --> 01:17:05,160
Speaker 1: it was like the first time, like a hot like

1483
01:17:05,479 --> 01:17:07,720
Speaker 1: guy who looked like from like a shun Cody video

1484
01:17:07,840 --> 01:17:10,280
Speaker 1: ever paid attention to me, and I was like so

1485
01:17:11,439 --> 01:17:15,920
Speaker 1: excited by that that like, you know, Dawson from the

1486
01:17:16,040 --> 01:17:21,720
Speaker 1: old Shandy video, remember him, Corban Fisher, Dawson Dawson and

1487
01:17:21,840 --> 01:17:25,640
Speaker 1: Lucas I don't know, one of the greatest. Remember they

1488
01:17:25,640 --> 01:17:27,840
Speaker 1: didn't they did a whole fucking Czechoslovakia trip. They did,

1489
01:17:27,920 --> 01:17:29,760
Speaker 1: they did a whole Europe trip, and they did it

1490
01:17:29,800 --> 01:17:31,800
Speaker 1: sucked in different hoods, yes, And it felt like one

1491
01:17:31,880 --> 01:17:33,680
Speaker 1: of them had decided to date me, and so I

1492
01:17:33,760 --> 01:17:35,680
Speaker 1: had a very meldoc. And then when we broke up,

1493
01:17:35,760 --> 01:17:37,880
Speaker 1: he dated someone that who was also you know again

1494
01:17:38,000 --> 01:17:40,960
Speaker 1: like a very hot like Corbin fishery looking person, and

1495
01:17:41,040 --> 01:17:43,080
Speaker 1: then I just couldn't handle it because all my greatest

1496
01:17:43,120 --> 01:17:46,639
Speaker 1: fears were personified. And so then year old lost his mind.

1497
01:17:46,680 --> 01:17:50,679
Speaker 1: So I think the karma of that lost his mind

1498
01:17:50,760 --> 01:17:54,000
Speaker 1: that's the title of But I think the karma of

1499
01:17:54,040 --> 01:17:57,800
Speaker 1: that led to me me having a chapter written about

1500
01:17:57,880 --> 01:17:59,439
Speaker 1: me in Joel's book. There you Go. I mean you

1501
01:17:59,479 --> 01:18:02,400
Speaker 1: survived all of it. I've survived, and isn't it's so

1502
01:18:02,439 --> 01:18:04,880
Speaker 1: funny that, like you were again fully mired in the

1503
01:18:04,960 --> 01:18:09,599
Speaker 1: socialist performative. Yes on displayformative, social media. Yeah, and now

1504
01:18:09,680 --> 01:18:12,080
Speaker 1: it's like we are sort of in this weird post

1505
01:18:12,280 --> 01:18:14,559
Speaker 1: state that I never thought we would get to. Ever. Yeah,

1506
01:18:14,960 --> 01:18:16,599
Speaker 1: this is here to stay were this is how we're

1507
01:18:16,600 --> 01:18:18,599
Speaker 1: gonna be. Doesn't feel like it is here to stay,

1508
01:18:18,680 --> 01:18:20,519
Speaker 1: does it. It feels like it's sort of starting to

1509
01:18:20,560 --> 01:18:22,479
Speaker 1: break down a little. I mean, there's an element to

1510
01:18:22,600 --> 01:18:25,200
Speaker 1: it that will always be here, but like that like

1511
01:18:25,680 --> 01:18:32,200
Speaker 1: really performative like two thousand seven, Yeah, this is just

1512
01:18:32,479 --> 01:18:34,120
Speaker 1: like this would have been two thousand twelve. Yeah, but

1513
01:18:34,120 --> 01:18:35,840
Speaker 1: that it wasn't the peak of yet. Yeah, like that.

1514
01:18:36,000 --> 01:18:37,640
Speaker 1: I feel like that kind of thing is kind of

1515
01:18:37,720 --> 01:18:42,400
Speaker 1: dying down. I love it. Just I welcome that me too. Yes,

1516
01:18:43,120 --> 01:18:45,400
Speaker 1: I have to be honest with you. Since we've been

1517
01:18:45,439 --> 01:18:47,920
Speaker 1: talking about porn, I've been thinking about my porner that

1518
01:18:47,960 --> 01:18:51,080
Speaker 1: I've been watching lately, which is do you guys know Carter,

1519
01:18:51,240 --> 01:18:54,639
Speaker 1: Dane and Alex Meekum, yes, yea. The video, the first

1520
01:18:54,720 --> 01:18:57,200
Speaker 1: video of them, um like they're they're they're dating and

1521
01:18:57,240 --> 01:18:59,000
Speaker 1: really there and they're in love and real life and

1522
01:18:59,840 --> 01:19:03,040
Speaker 1: the love that important. The video, the video that they

1523
01:19:03,280 --> 01:19:05,639
Speaker 1: did together, you can literally see them fall in love

1524
01:19:06,840 --> 01:19:08,360
Speaker 1: and I actually kind of love it. It's like it's

1525
01:19:08,360 --> 01:19:10,280
Speaker 1: like Rosie and Elizabeth. And then you see the moment

1526
01:19:10,360 --> 01:19:12,519
Speaker 1: where they decide what they're going to be. Who is

1527
01:19:12,520 --> 01:19:14,519
Speaker 1: your number? Who are your porn staries right now? Who care?

1528
01:19:14,720 --> 01:19:16,679
Speaker 1: Dane is I think the hottest person in the world,

1529
01:19:16,760 --> 01:19:21,080
Speaker 1: although I do think a big Ricky roman is. I

1530
01:19:21,200 --> 01:19:24,280
Speaker 1: like Ricky Roman. I'm a big Levi Carter fan. Levi

1531
01:19:24,479 --> 01:19:27,880
Speaker 1: Carter is a little small for me. I like that. Um,

1532
01:19:28,120 --> 01:19:32,400
Speaker 1: I like uh, I like this dude. Um Robert Axel

1533
01:19:32,479 --> 01:19:33,840
Speaker 1: but he's sort of fallen off. But he would do

1534
01:19:33,840 --> 01:19:36,080
Speaker 1: a lot of massage porn stuff that was like a

1535
01:19:36,120 --> 01:19:40,799
Speaker 1: fun little like my only little sort of vertically kinky niche.

1536
01:19:41,320 --> 01:19:44,760
Speaker 1: But then a massages just massage. It's like, oh cool,

1537
01:19:44,800 --> 01:19:47,560
Speaker 1: this is kind're not not kicking it all right, like

1538
01:19:47,760 --> 01:19:53,280
Speaker 1: totally erotic massage that you've never done it. Well, one

1539
01:19:53,320 --> 01:19:54,960
Speaker 1: time it was going in that direction, and I think

1540
01:19:55,000 --> 01:19:57,760
Speaker 1: I was like, I don't know. I didn't say no,

1541
01:19:58,000 --> 01:20:00,800
Speaker 1: but like I think I treat yourself guys. I think

1542
01:20:00,880 --> 01:20:03,040
Speaker 1: had I looked over and made I contact once, I

1543
01:20:03,080 --> 01:20:05,840
Speaker 1: think it would have someone hire someone. It's so sex

1544
01:20:05,920 --> 01:20:08,720
Speaker 1: positive screen sewer fighter dot com. It's my favorite. We

1545
01:20:08,800 --> 01:20:12,040
Speaker 1: went to the strip club. Like I ended up giving

1546
01:20:12,080 --> 01:20:14,640
Speaker 1: a hundred and forty dollars to these strippers and one

1547
01:20:14,680 --> 01:20:16,880
Speaker 1: of them, I like, really went too far with strip

1548
01:20:17,240 --> 01:20:20,280
Speaker 1: in New York. Joe and I have compared notes afterwards,

1549
01:20:20,320 --> 01:20:22,519
Speaker 1: and we both were bad boys. You were both very bad.

1550
01:20:22,520 --> 01:20:27,519
Speaker 1: They both got swindled from these from these I couldn't

1551
01:20:27,520 --> 01:20:30,080
Speaker 1: believe how much money I didn't have that I gave them. Yeah,

1552
01:20:30,120 --> 01:20:35,439
Speaker 1: but I'm I'm a big Darius Ferdinand guy. And he

1553
01:20:35,560 --> 01:20:40,120
Speaker 1: has he had boyfriends with is he boyfriends with Ricky Roman? Wow?

1554
01:20:40,320 --> 01:20:42,920
Speaker 1: That one of the hottest things ever. Also, to be honest,

1555
01:20:42,960 --> 01:20:45,200
Speaker 1: I got I gotta say, what's his name? Who takes

1556
01:20:45,240 --> 01:20:49,560
Speaker 1: pictures at the gay events that we go hands. I

1557
01:20:49,800 --> 01:20:51,519
Speaker 1: one time I thought I was going to get talk

1558
01:20:51,600 --> 01:20:55,439
Speaker 1: up with Tight Hanson because I he deemed me on Twitter,

1559
01:20:57,479 --> 01:21:00,200
Speaker 1: and I actually because what happened was a friend of

1560
01:21:00,240 --> 01:21:01,720
Speaker 1: mine w had hooked up with him, and I was like, oh,

1561
01:21:01,800 --> 01:21:03,559
Speaker 1: it's not that hard to hook up with Tate handsome,

1562
01:21:03,960 --> 01:21:06,400
Speaker 1: and so I started following him on Twitter and you know,

1563
01:21:06,479 --> 01:21:08,120
Speaker 1: did the thing where I like faved a bunch of ships.

1564
01:21:09,600 --> 01:21:12,200
Speaker 1: He slid into the d m um and we made

1565
01:21:12,240 --> 01:21:14,360
Speaker 1: plans to have I was here shooting I think difficult

1566
01:21:14,439 --> 01:21:17,280
Speaker 1: people and he made we made plans to like hook

1567
01:21:17,360 --> 01:21:19,080
Speaker 1: up that or meet up that night for a drink,

1568
01:21:19,280 --> 01:21:21,240
Speaker 1: and we were like texting back and forth, and I

1569
01:21:21,320 --> 01:21:23,040
Speaker 1: was going to meet him at Barracuda because he was

1570
01:21:23,120 --> 01:21:27,320
Speaker 1: judging some sort of like sinking content. And we finally

1571
01:21:27,360 --> 01:21:30,519
Speaker 1: meet up when and we're texting and he's like, okay,

1572
01:21:30,920 --> 01:21:32,400
Speaker 1: I forget what he said. But I was like, okay,

1573
01:21:32,520 --> 01:21:36,320
Speaker 1: shut up, bitch something in text, and he wrote back

1574
01:21:36,400 --> 01:21:38,720
Speaker 1: this long thing that was like, please don't refer to

1575
01:21:38,800 --> 01:21:40,639
Speaker 1: me as a bitch. That is really hurtful. I won't

1576
01:21:40,680 --> 01:21:44,200
Speaker 1: take I won't take verbal abuse. But then we still

1577
01:21:44,400 --> 01:21:47,559
Speaker 1: we Like then I still went to Barracuda to meet him,

1578
01:21:47,640 --> 01:21:50,080
Speaker 1: and then he like sat in front of the stage

1579
01:21:50,120 --> 01:21:52,400
Speaker 1: to judge the lip sinking or drag or whatever it was,

1580
01:21:52,840 --> 01:21:56,880
Speaker 1: and I like sat behind him. It was so strange,

1581
01:21:56,960 --> 01:21:59,280
Speaker 1: and he didn't speak to me the whole time. I

1582
01:21:59,439 --> 01:22:02,240
Speaker 1: was so it was right. That sounds like he was

1583
01:22:02,280 --> 01:22:04,320
Speaker 1: either going through a tough moment or it is fully crazy.

1584
01:22:04,360 --> 01:22:07,240
Speaker 1: I think I was going through a tough moment. It

1585
01:22:07,400 --> 01:22:09,640
Speaker 1: was dark. It was dark. Wait, what's the name of

1586
01:22:09,720 --> 01:22:11,680
Speaker 1: the guy who has like a huge ass and a

1587
01:22:11,800 --> 01:22:16,120
Speaker 1: huge dick? Every single person I would know him. You

1588
01:22:16,120 --> 01:22:18,719
Speaker 1: wouldn't know him. You wouldn't know him anyway. I feel

1589
01:22:18,720 --> 01:22:21,040
Speaker 1: like his name is like Hector or something. Okay, okay,

1590
01:22:21,439 --> 01:22:23,559
Speaker 1: anyway we we He like hit me up on grinder

1591
01:22:23,600 --> 01:22:24,960
Speaker 1: one time. He was like, come to my hotel him

1592
01:22:25,000 --> 01:22:27,120
Speaker 1: and I've literally I chickened out just because I knew

1593
01:22:27,280 --> 01:22:30,880
Speaker 1: the sexual experience would be harrowing. Harrowing. You didn't do it? Yeah,

1594
01:22:30,920 --> 01:22:33,040
Speaker 1: I got it. I love talking about art with you, guys.

1595
01:22:33,320 --> 01:22:35,639
Speaker 1: I love talking about art with speaking of art, let's

1596
01:22:35,680 --> 01:22:40,040
Speaker 1: move on to I don't think so. This is our Wow,

1597
01:22:40,200 --> 01:22:42,559
Speaker 1: it's our classic segment that we have on the podcast.

1598
01:22:42,640 --> 01:22:45,240
Speaker 1: It's really I mean it's a classic. Are you going

1599
01:22:45,280 --> 01:22:48,400
Speaker 1: to be in l A and in early December? Uh? Yeah,

1600
01:22:48,439 --> 01:22:50,200
Speaker 1: I'm in l A for two weeks in December and

1601
01:22:50,200 --> 01:22:52,479
Speaker 1: then I go to the UK if it's well, I

1602
01:22:52,560 --> 01:22:54,040
Speaker 1: really want you. Joel and I are going to be

1603
01:22:54,080 --> 01:22:55,479
Speaker 1: doing I Don't Think So Honey Live out there, and

1604
01:22:55,520 --> 01:22:57,200
Speaker 1: I want you to be on it where you working.

1605
01:22:57,240 --> 01:22:59,720
Speaker 1: He's working, so Joel Kim Booster is gonna host me.

1606
01:22:59,760 --> 01:23:01,240
Speaker 1: I guess this is a good time to tell you guys,

1607
01:23:01,520 --> 01:23:03,840
Speaker 1: get your tickets to I Don't Think So Honey Live

1608
01:23:04,000 --> 01:23:06,400
Speaker 1: at the Bettlehouse on November as well as I Don't

1609
01:23:06,439 --> 01:23:08,880
Speaker 1: Think So Honey Live on December fifth of the region

1610
01:23:08,960 --> 01:23:11,240
Speaker 1: and downtown Los Angeles. And we're also going to be

1611
01:23:11,320 --> 01:23:16,519
Speaker 1: doing Um Queers Live at Joe's Pub November. You'll be

1612
01:23:16,640 --> 01:23:19,680
Speaker 1: here at Joe's Pub Monday night. We're gonna be recreating

1613
01:23:19,720 --> 01:23:21,639
Speaker 1: a diva's live, but it's not gonna be like we're

1614
01:23:21,640 --> 01:23:23,519
Speaker 1: gonna do their songs. We're gonna do our own songs.

1615
01:23:23,600 --> 01:23:25,920
Speaker 1: That has me bone Yang Joel can no, Joel's not

1616
01:23:26,040 --> 01:23:33,080
Speaker 1: doing it, Josh, Aaron Cole, Larry Peter, a Line, We're

1617
01:23:33,120 --> 01:23:35,080
Speaker 1: gonna be having a fun time and more to be

1618
01:23:35,120 --> 01:23:38,679
Speaker 1: announced and presenters as well, presenters as well, non musical

1619
01:23:38,760 --> 01:23:42,519
Speaker 1: presenter just like Jennifer and just presented presenting you guys

1620
01:23:43,240 --> 01:23:45,280
Speaker 1: like you come out into a little bit present us.

1621
01:23:45,520 --> 01:23:48,760
Speaker 1: I like, it's so self indulgent, and it will be

1622
01:23:48,920 --> 01:23:51,360
Speaker 1: to a charity that we have yet to be decided

1623
01:23:51,720 --> 01:23:54,080
Speaker 1: that we have yet is the epitome of self indulgent.

1624
01:23:54,360 --> 01:23:59,120
Speaker 1: It's truly a question. Feature on Instagram. I like, but um, so,

1625
01:23:59,240 --> 01:24:00,600
Speaker 1: I guess it's time for I think so mony, I

1626
01:24:00,680 --> 01:24:03,160
Speaker 1: do have one. This is Matt Rodgers. I don't think

1627
01:24:03,200 --> 01:24:05,320
Speaker 1: so many's time starts now. I don't think so honey.

1628
01:24:05,479 --> 01:24:08,920
Speaker 1: This Bohemian Rhapsody movie, I have not seen it. I

1629
01:24:09,000 --> 01:24:10,960
Speaker 1: have seen some of the reviews. Apparently it's terrible. I

1630
01:24:11,000 --> 01:24:13,320
Speaker 1: could have told you that from the fucking god awful trailer.

1631
01:24:13,720 --> 01:24:17,120
Speaker 1: I do not think so honey. This Brian Singer garbage

1632
01:24:17,200 --> 01:24:19,680
Speaker 1: bullshit because I'm sorry, but why did we give him

1633
01:24:19,800 --> 01:24:23,000
Speaker 1: this movie? Why if you? And also I don't think

1634
01:24:23,040 --> 01:24:25,439
Speaker 1: so honey, all these awards people being like it could

1635
01:24:25,680 --> 01:24:27,280
Speaker 1: give you know I'm in for an Oscar. No it's not.

1636
01:24:27,439 --> 01:24:31,200
Speaker 1: Here's a reason directed by Brian Singer. No thank you. Also,

1637
01:24:31,280 --> 01:24:34,080
Speaker 1: I don't think so honey. Again, not that this really

1638
01:24:34,160 --> 01:24:36,040
Speaker 1: matters at this point, because it's just gonna keep happening.

1639
01:24:36,120 --> 01:24:39,840
Speaker 1: But Robby Malick is playing Freddie Mercury, a famously queer person,

1640
01:24:39,960 --> 01:24:42,400
Speaker 1: like we couldn't find any queer actor to do this.

1641
01:24:42,760 --> 01:24:44,640
Speaker 1: Not that I super really care about this, because I

1642
01:24:44,720 --> 01:24:47,800
Speaker 1: do always think an actor acts, but the thing is, like, guys,

1643
01:24:47,880 --> 01:24:51,400
Speaker 1: it's Freddie Mercury. Fu. I have to also say, I

1644
01:24:51,439 --> 01:24:52,960
Speaker 1: don't think so, honey. The c g I and the

1645
01:24:53,040 --> 01:24:55,960
Speaker 1: trailer that pans out to the crowd, which it sounds

1646
01:24:55,960 --> 01:24:58,240
Speaker 1: like it looks like a million people just copy and pasted,

1647
01:24:58,280 --> 01:25:00,240
Speaker 1: like if you're gonna have a crowd shot, get a

1648
01:25:00,320 --> 01:25:02,599
Speaker 1: crowd or just cut the crowd shot. I don't think so, honey.

1649
01:25:02,680 --> 01:25:04,920
Speaker 1: This movie it looks bad. It probably is bad. I'm

1650
01:25:04,920 --> 01:25:08,679
Speaker 1: not going to see able him around, Yeah, I agree,

1651
01:25:08,760 --> 01:25:11,240
Speaker 1: I'm not not no thank you, I'm just a note

1652
01:25:11,240 --> 01:25:13,640
Speaker 1: thank you all around. Because it's like and also I

1653
01:25:13,720 --> 01:25:15,519
Speaker 1: didn't even mention this, and this is actually was my

1654
01:25:15,560 --> 01:25:19,760
Speaker 1: biggest problem with it. But the trailer tries to insinuate

1655
01:25:20,000 --> 01:25:22,439
Speaker 1: that there's going to be like a heterosexual romance in

1656
01:25:22,520 --> 01:25:26,800
Speaker 1: the movie, which is like really inappropriate. It also like

1657
01:25:27,240 --> 01:25:29,400
Speaker 1: I felt like that they have him wearing like fake

1658
01:25:29,479 --> 01:25:33,439
Speaker 1: bad teeth. Yeah, and it's they're almost comically it's such

1659
01:25:33,439 --> 01:25:37,720
Speaker 1: a strange detail to like really like dry even worse

1660
01:25:37,800 --> 01:25:41,920
Speaker 1: than nose in the hours. Yeah, it's it's weird because

1661
01:25:41,920 --> 01:25:44,640
Speaker 1: it's like we didn't know what Virginia Wolfs nose looked like,

1662
01:25:44,840 --> 01:25:47,200
Speaker 1: so we don't need this. And also, like, if you're

1663
01:25:47,200 --> 01:25:51,080
Speaker 1: gonna fucking highlight something about Freddie Mercury, maybe the fact

1664
01:25:51,120 --> 01:25:53,479
Speaker 1: that he was queer, I don't know, maybe not his teeth.

1665
01:25:53,560 --> 01:25:55,759
Speaker 1: Maybe the fact that he was queer makes him more dynamic.

1666
01:25:56,000 --> 01:25:58,280
Speaker 1: Did you see the little clip of him in an

1667
01:25:58,320 --> 01:26:00,400
Speaker 1: area where someone I think it was someone him into

1668
01:26:01,200 --> 01:26:06,320
Speaker 1: um the the the grungeery magazine, um Uh asked him

1669
01:26:06,760 --> 01:26:09,960
Speaker 1: would you call a simple question like not even would

1670
01:26:10,000 --> 01:26:13,680
Speaker 1: you Ray or Roy? Would you call Freddie Mercury a

1671
01:26:13,760 --> 01:26:16,240
Speaker 1: gay icon? Would you consider him to be a gay icony,

1672
01:26:16,439 --> 01:26:19,599
Speaker 1: a gay figure? And then Ramy just tried to dance

1673
01:26:19,640 --> 01:26:22,599
Speaker 1: around it and said, you know, I wouldn't qualify him

1674
01:26:22,600 --> 01:26:26,639
Speaker 1: as anything, and I'm sorry, but you're playing Freddie Mercury.

1675
01:26:26,760 --> 01:26:30,200
Speaker 1: That means you've stepped into the gay space regardless of

1676
01:26:30,880 --> 01:26:34,040
Speaker 1: what you think totally, And it's yeah, it's like, what

1677
01:26:34,360 --> 01:26:36,920
Speaker 1: I mean, are you doing some risk assessment here with

1678
01:26:37,240 --> 01:26:39,439
Speaker 1: saying like, oh, I can't say, calling a gay icon.

1679
01:26:39,479 --> 01:26:44,160
Speaker 1: Otherwise people think I'm gay? Who is? And we joke

1680
01:26:44,200 --> 01:26:46,439
Speaker 1: about that a lot on the show, But that's eraser.

1681
01:26:46,560 --> 01:26:49,600
Speaker 1: That really is a raiser. And you can't deny what

1682
01:26:49,760 --> 01:26:52,600
Speaker 1: brought Freddie Mercury into this world his talent like and

1683
01:26:52,800 --> 01:26:54,640
Speaker 1: and also what took him out of this world? And

1684
01:26:54,720 --> 01:26:56,960
Speaker 1: it's bow yanks. I don't think so any time. Um

1685
01:26:57,640 --> 01:27:00,559
Speaker 1: wait a minute, and as time starts, now think so, honey,

1686
01:27:00,640 --> 01:27:03,599
Speaker 1: this banger less era we're in with our pop stars

1687
01:27:03,640 --> 01:27:06,280
Speaker 1: who all just want to deliver you a vibe and

1688
01:27:06,400 --> 01:27:09,599
Speaker 1: not actual hooks bitch speak. I love the New Robin,

1689
01:27:09,800 --> 01:27:13,920
Speaker 1: It's amazing. But also like this conscious direction that all

1690
01:27:13,960 --> 01:27:16,040
Speaker 1: of all of our pop songstresses are going in where

1691
01:27:16,080 --> 01:27:18,679
Speaker 1: it's like, Okay, we're giving you We're giving you a mood,

1692
01:27:18,800 --> 01:27:21,000
Speaker 1: we're giving you a vibe. It's not gonna be anything memorable.

1693
01:27:21,040 --> 01:27:22,519
Speaker 1: You can't really bop to it. We're not going to

1694
01:27:22,600 --> 01:27:26,320
Speaker 1: give you bops is truly crazy, Like it decentralizes this

1695
01:27:26,479 --> 01:27:29,720
Speaker 1: whole thing in music where it's like okay, now, now, now,

1696
01:27:29,880 --> 01:27:31,960
Speaker 1: now we have to rely on these like we have

1697
01:27:32,040 --> 01:27:34,600
Speaker 1: to discover a bop through a kimpetress, like we have

1698
01:27:34,720 --> 01:27:37,479
Speaker 1: to like search for that through other people. Like that

1699
01:27:37,640 --> 01:27:39,840
Speaker 1: is more work on our part and like we don't

1700
01:27:39,920 --> 01:27:41,600
Speaker 1: have I don't have the emotional labor to do that,

1701
01:27:41,720 --> 01:27:43,160
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. And also this is not

1702
01:27:43,280 --> 01:27:46,240
Speaker 1: to like dictate theirs in any way, and like their

1703
01:27:46,320 --> 01:27:50,400
Speaker 1: artistic vision is their vision. But I want, like god,

1704
01:27:50,439 --> 01:27:53,799
Speaker 1: I want like a solid like teenage dream type album,

1705
01:27:54,000 --> 01:27:56,400
Speaker 1: like dangerous Woman album where it's like we haven't had

1706
01:27:56,439 --> 01:27:58,600
Speaker 1: that in a long time, and who will deliver us

1707
01:27:58,640 --> 01:28:00,600
Speaker 1: back into that zone and just that space I'm so

1708
01:28:00,720 --> 01:28:02,479
Speaker 1: curious to see. And that's that's one man, and that's

1709
01:28:02,520 --> 01:28:05,280
Speaker 1: one minute. I have to say. It's like, you know,

1710
01:28:05,920 --> 01:28:08,000
Speaker 1: they're all deciding at the same time to do this

1711
01:28:08,160 --> 01:28:13,599
Speaker 1: sort of like banger lists, like sparse, minimalist thing where

1712
01:28:13,680 --> 01:28:15,840
Speaker 1: the funk is the hook. Did you like the Kim

1713
01:28:15,880 --> 01:28:20,000
Speaker 1: Petris Halloween album? We loved it and wen Kim Petris

1714
01:28:20,160 --> 01:28:22,040
Speaker 1: popping so much right now because she's the only ones

1715
01:28:22,600 --> 01:28:27,000
Speaker 1: making efforts to give you hooks. Yes, I'm very I'm

1716
01:28:27,520 --> 01:28:30,120
Speaker 1: I did. I had not. I was not aware of

1717
01:28:30,200 --> 01:28:33,960
Speaker 1: Kim Petri's until everybody was posting that album, but then

1718
01:28:34,000 --> 01:28:35,880
Speaker 1: when I heard she did a duet with Elvira. I

1719
01:28:36,040 --> 01:28:38,920
Speaker 1: was very sold and I was I'm very into that album.

1720
01:28:39,080 --> 01:28:42,639
Speaker 1: I got my sister and her friends into Kim Petri's.

1721
01:28:42,680 --> 01:28:44,519
Speaker 1: I was I just like, did this experiment, Like it

1722
01:28:44,640 --> 01:28:46,200
Speaker 1: was like two months ago, was like the late summer,

1723
01:28:46,280 --> 01:28:48,920
Speaker 1: and like I was put them and I was. We

1724
01:28:49,000 --> 01:28:50,360
Speaker 1: were driving out too. We were going to go to

1725
01:28:50,400 --> 01:28:52,960
Speaker 1: the Montop Lighthouse and I was like, you know, the

1726
01:28:53,040 --> 01:28:54,920
Speaker 1: fire own lighthouse. And we were driving and I was like,

1727
01:28:56,000 --> 01:28:58,000
Speaker 1: a lot of life has something, such a real culture

1728
01:28:58,080 --> 01:29:01,320
Speaker 1: number forty, A lot of life has on island, and um,

1729
01:29:01,560 --> 01:29:02,960
Speaker 1: we were driving out there and I was like, let

1730
01:29:03,040 --> 01:29:06,200
Speaker 1: me just slide on Heart to Break and I put

1731
01:29:06,280 --> 01:29:08,240
Speaker 1: it on and they kind of like eight out of

1732
01:29:08,280 --> 01:29:10,560
Speaker 1: ten responded. Then I put on I don't want it

1733
01:29:10,600 --> 01:29:14,720
Speaker 1: at all. They were like, what is this? And now

1734
01:29:14,800 --> 01:29:19,200
Speaker 1: they're obsessed with her amazing, But she's the old She's

1735
01:29:19,600 --> 01:29:22,080
Speaker 1: she's in a very um sparse field. And that's why

1736
01:29:22,400 --> 01:29:26,240
Speaker 1: power position position, power position, um god blast um. Okay.

1737
01:29:26,360 --> 01:29:29,000
Speaker 1: Jeffrey Seuth, Jeffrey Sells, I don't think so, honey, and

1738
01:29:29,080 --> 01:29:33,000
Speaker 1: his time starts now, Okay, I don't think so honey. Snakes.

1739
01:29:35,800 --> 01:29:43,120
Speaker 1: I am so against snakes. I hate fucking hate snakes.

1740
01:29:43,520 --> 01:29:46,160
Speaker 1: I think that like if if, like you could like

1741
01:29:46,240 --> 01:29:48,280
Speaker 1: push like a button or do something the chemical in

1742
01:29:48,320 --> 01:29:51,320
Speaker 1: the air that killed all snakes before. I hate people

1743
01:29:51,360 --> 01:29:55,120
Speaker 1: who have pets pet snakes. I guess they're disgusting, they're weirdos.

1744
01:29:55,160 --> 01:29:58,080
Speaker 1: I don't trust to their people. But what really I

1745
01:29:58,120 --> 01:30:01,720
Speaker 1: don't think so, honey, More than any thing else is

1746
01:30:01,760 --> 01:30:05,080
Speaker 1: those fucking people who stand on the street with a

1747
01:30:05,160 --> 01:30:07,640
Speaker 1: giant snake with like a twinkle in their eye and

1748
01:30:07,720 --> 01:30:10,120
Speaker 1: you can pay them to take pictures with like we're

1749
01:30:10,120 --> 01:30:12,920
Speaker 1: holding the snake. I don't think so the snake doesn't

1750
01:30:12,960 --> 01:30:15,040
Speaker 1: want it. I don't want it the people passing, but

1751
01:30:15,120 --> 01:30:19,200
Speaker 1: I don't want it that you are a selfish creep.

1752
01:30:20,960 --> 01:30:22,920
Speaker 1: I saw this happen in Times Square the other day.

1753
01:30:23,000 --> 01:30:27,280
Speaker 1: It was cold. I thought, I don't think no, thank

1754
01:30:27,360 --> 01:30:32,960
Speaker 1: you snakes, and that that was really good. And you

1755
01:30:33,040 --> 01:30:35,840
Speaker 1: know what, I don't think, so honey, snakes. I fucking

1756
01:30:35,920 --> 01:30:37,920
Speaker 1: hate them. And it's just like, you know, it's like

1757
01:30:38,040 --> 01:30:41,000
Speaker 1: the one animal that I truly think, you know, why

1758
01:30:41,040 --> 01:30:44,080
Speaker 1: are you here? There are no I don't Anybody who's

1759
01:30:44,640 --> 01:30:47,559
Speaker 1: coming to defend a snake is not someone I want

1760
01:30:47,560 --> 01:30:50,479
Speaker 1: to have in my space them. We don't need them.

1761
01:30:50,680 --> 01:30:54,280
Speaker 1: We do not need them. If someone must do something,

1762
01:30:55,800 --> 01:30:58,240
Speaker 1: I'll tell you something if if you you know, snakes

1763
01:30:58,280 --> 01:31:02,479
Speaker 1: means more rodents, If I I honestly fine, okay, but

1764
01:31:02,560 --> 01:31:04,559
Speaker 1: then okay, and then you're you're a fan of snakes

1765
01:31:04,600 --> 01:31:07,000
Speaker 1: on this whole trend now thanks to Taylor is the

1766
01:31:07,040 --> 01:31:10,120
Speaker 1: snakes on jewelry thing. I mean I don't care about that,

1767
01:31:11,400 --> 01:31:12,920
Speaker 1: but like, for example, I was like out of friends

1768
01:31:12,920 --> 01:31:15,240
Speaker 1: the other day and like they like they had a

1769
01:31:15,280 --> 01:31:19,400
Speaker 1: snake casually brought out a snake no, and I was like,

1770
01:31:19,520 --> 01:31:22,080
Speaker 1: this is this isn't okay? And I made him put

1771
01:31:22,080 --> 01:31:25,400
Speaker 1: it away. Are they in the industry, Yeah, that's not acceptable.

1772
01:31:25,439 --> 01:31:27,000
Speaker 1: If you're in the industry and you have a snake

1773
01:31:27,040 --> 01:31:31,719
Speaker 1: and then something you're hiding something. It's just it represents something,

1774
01:31:31,960 --> 01:31:33,160
Speaker 1: you know, the way that you can like when you

1775
01:31:33,200 --> 01:31:35,040
Speaker 1: meet someone who has a pet bird, like you're like, oh,

1776
01:31:35,080 --> 01:31:37,560
Speaker 1: I know everything I need to know about it. No,

1777
01:31:37,760 --> 01:31:40,800
Speaker 1: thank you, But like a pet bird at least is

1778
01:31:40,880 --> 01:31:43,320
Speaker 1: like pretty and everybody's like, oh that's nice. But like

1779
01:31:45,200 --> 01:31:47,519
Speaker 1: wants that zoos need to get rid of their snakes.

1780
01:31:48,320 --> 01:31:50,479
Speaker 1: You never know when you're gonna turn a corner and

1781
01:31:50,520 --> 01:31:52,679
Speaker 1: there's gonna be one. When we were in on acid

1782
01:31:52,720 --> 01:31:54,960
Speaker 1: at the San Diego Zoo, you know, we're looking at

1783
01:31:55,000 --> 01:31:57,639
Speaker 1: the some sort of thing that's swimming in the water

1784
01:31:57,800 --> 01:32:00,280
Speaker 1: and it was a crocodile outgate or some ship. And

1785
01:32:00,360 --> 01:32:02,160
Speaker 1: then you turn and then in this aquarium was this

1786
01:32:02,360 --> 01:32:06,560
Speaker 1: just giant, hideous garbage pile of a snake. And the

1787
01:32:06,640 --> 01:32:10,280
Speaker 1: way they reflect lights and they're just they pointless, They

1788
01:32:10,360 --> 01:32:14,600
Speaker 1: offer absolutely nothing. The way they metabolize the things that

1789
01:32:14,680 --> 01:32:18,040
Speaker 1: they eat is absolutely frightening. And if you ever gotten

1790
01:32:18,080 --> 01:32:20,840
Speaker 1: eaten by a snake, I'm so sorry. You know that

1791
01:32:20,960 --> 01:32:23,599
Speaker 1: thing where like the hot fucking I couldn't stop looking

1792
01:32:23,640 --> 01:32:26,400
Speaker 1: at it. That that article about the guy who like

1793
01:32:26,479 --> 01:32:28,720
Speaker 1: fell asleep on the street in India and like was

1794
01:32:28,800 --> 01:32:31,840
Speaker 1: swallowed whole by like a cobra and like he was

1795
01:32:31,960 --> 01:32:36,240
Speaker 1: killed obviously, just no, So we're so sorry for that. Also,

1796
01:32:36,360 --> 01:32:41,400
Speaker 1: bolt constrictors and literally constrict you until you suffocate and

1797
01:32:41,439 --> 01:32:45,720
Speaker 1: then they break your bones. I don't think disgusting, thank you,

1798
01:32:46,840 --> 01:32:49,760
Speaker 1: So fuck snake. Any animal that has an instinct to

1799
01:32:49,880 --> 01:32:53,120
Speaker 1: kill you painfully, I don't think so. Yeah, But again,

1800
01:32:53,240 --> 01:32:56,040
Speaker 1: like I don't mind an alligator crocodile, I do mind,

1801
01:32:56,120 --> 01:32:57,559
Speaker 1: I mean I don't want to hang out with one,

1802
01:32:57,720 --> 01:33:00,400
Speaker 1: or I would never no, God no, like I had

1803
01:33:00,439 --> 01:33:02,000
Speaker 1: a dinner party of twelve. No, there would not be

1804
01:33:03,439 --> 01:33:07,160
Speaker 1: on that list. But I do not think they I wouldn't.

1805
01:33:07,160 --> 01:33:09,480
Speaker 1: I'm not like, let's get rid of all the crocodiles, alligators,

1806
01:33:09,560 --> 01:33:13,280
Speaker 1: but snakes, I genuinely am let's start a movement, let's

1807
01:33:13,320 --> 01:33:15,000
Speaker 1: get rid of them. Really so they're on the top

1808
01:33:15,040 --> 01:33:16,519
Speaker 1: of your list. And if you could get rid of

1809
01:33:16,560 --> 01:33:18,960
Speaker 1: every shark in the world, you'd be like, No, I don't.

1810
01:33:19,200 --> 01:33:20,960
Speaker 1: I mean you don't. Again, I don't like sharks, but

1811
01:33:21,080 --> 01:33:24,400
Speaker 1: like I like like reading about sharks, and not all

1812
01:33:24,439 --> 01:33:27,559
Speaker 1: sharks are harmful sharks, sharks get a bad rap. They're

1813
01:33:27,560 --> 01:33:30,040
Speaker 1: at least interesting, as I think snakes are probably stupid.

1814
01:33:30,560 --> 01:33:33,400
Speaker 1: You know, sharks are really smart. Snakes there's there's there's

1815
01:33:33,400 --> 01:33:36,320
Speaker 1: really nothing redeemable. Not maybe more rodents. I get your

1816
01:33:36,360 --> 01:33:38,120
Speaker 1: what you're saying, there would be more rodents. But I

1817
01:33:38,160 --> 01:33:40,439
Speaker 1: would rather be like in a bathtub of mice than

1818
01:33:40,560 --> 01:33:42,320
Speaker 1: like have to like look at a snake on because

1819
01:33:42,320 --> 01:33:44,400
Speaker 1: at least mice are also mammals and therefore you can

1820
01:33:44,520 --> 01:33:47,400
Speaker 1: get on their level. Yes, get on their level. That's

1821
01:33:47,520 --> 01:33:51,439
Speaker 1: huge for any animal, you have to get on their level. Culture,

1822
01:33:52,680 --> 01:33:55,439
Speaker 1: for any animal, you have to get on their level. Um,

1823
01:33:56,240 --> 01:33:57,720
Speaker 1: that was a very that was that was That was

1824
01:33:57,760 --> 01:33:59,880
Speaker 1: a c felt like a classic clean I don't think so.

1825
01:34:00,240 --> 01:34:02,360
Speaker 1: It was really good and I've never thought about It's

1826
01:34:02,360 --> 01:34:03,760
Speaker 1: one of those I don't think so honeys where it's

1827
01:34:03,760 --> 01:34:05,479
Speaker 1: like you haven't thought about it, but you're like, oh

1828
01:34:05,560 --> 01:34:08,120
Speaker 1: my god, I've known this all my life. I've known

1829
01:34:08,240 --> 01:34:10,560
Speaker 1: since I was little. I don't think so honey, snakes, No,

1830
01:34:11,240 --> 01:34:14,479
Speaker 1: get them out of here, and we're I think we

1831
01:34:14,560 --> 01:34:16,840
Speaker 1: are entering a time of snake shaming. If you have

1832
01:34:16,960 --> 01:34:21,360
Speaker 1: a snake, who are you be? Evaluate honestly reevaluated because

1833
01:34:21,400 --> 01:34:23,760
Speaker 1: of Taylor, she is making the snakes popular. Well, then

1834
01:34:23,840 --> 01:34:28,200
Speaker 1: this week everybody was like, because Brittany years whatever, they

1835
01:34:28,240 --> 01:34:33,680
Speaker 1: were showing the I don't know what spirit was being

1836
01:34:33,720 --> 01:34:35,519
Speaker 1: talked about this week, and I'm like, I don't know.

1837
01:34:36,200 --> 01:34:40,760
Speaker 1: They're literally bombs going off being said, but she they were.

1838
01:34:40,840 --> 01:34:42,760
Speaker 1: Then they were talking about that that snake and there

1839
01:34:42,800 --> 01:34:45,120
Speaker 1: were pictures of that snake. Again, for some reason, that

1840
01:34:45,200 --> 01:34:47,240
Speaker 1: snake doesn't bother me as much because the color is

1841
01:34:47,320 --> 01:34:49,720
Speaker 1: kind of pretty, but it doesn't look like it's like

1842
01:34:49,880 --> 01:34:52,400
Speaker 1: the color makes it look not like snakes. But no,

1843
01:34:52,520 --> 01:34:55,000
Speaker 1: I still think that snakes should be killed, but I

1844
01:34:55,120 --> 01:34:57,360
Speaker 1: just that one doesn't piss me off as much. But

1845
01:34:57,439 --> 01:34:59,280
Speaker 1: I just I don't want like I hate when I'm

1846
01:34:59,280 --> 01:35:02,040
Speaker 1: scrolling through my feet eat and there's a snake just

1847
01:35:02,160 --> 01:35:04,720
Speaker 1: of any kind? How long does snakes live? Too long?

1848
01:35:05,520 --> 01:35:08,000
Speaker 1: I feel like they probably. I'm wondering if that Britney

1849
01:35:08,000 --> 01:35:10,920
Speaker 1: spears obviously for you snake snake is still alive. You're

1850
01:35:10,920 --> 01:35:12,960
Speaker 1: looking it up. I'm looking at up right now. But

1851
01:35:13,000 --> 01:35:14,240
Speaker 1: then there's gonna be a picture of a snake on

1852
01:35:14,320 --> 01:35:16,599
Speaker 1: your phone and you're gonna have that. Okay. He doesn't

1853
01:35:16,640 --> 01:35:18,360
Speaker 1: feel as bothered by snakes as you do, so I

1854
01:35:18,439 --> 01:35:22,000
Speaker 1: think he'll be okay. How long do they live? Uh,

1855
01:35:22,360 --> 01:35:26,360
Speaker 1: BoA's usually live for twenty five shows fifty years, get

1856
01:35:26,520 --> 01:35:29,000
Speaker 1: a live. Many holly breads have a life spin off

1857
01:35:29,080 --> 01:35:32,040
Speaker 1: between fifteen and twenty five years, and smaller species live

1858
01:35:32,400 --> 01:35:34,639
Speaker 1: for five to ten. So the slave for you era

1859
01:35:34,800 --> 01:35:37,200
Speaker 1: was two thousand, three thousand four, So I guess we

1860
01:35:37,280 --> 01:35:44,639
Speaker 1: can sit two do one? Are we sure? Because ninety

1861
01:35:44,760 --> 01:35:49,559
Speaker 1: nine was was? I want to say, so we can

1862
01:35:49,760 --> 01:35:53,439
Speaker 1: safely assume that the snake maybe alive. It depends on

1863
01:35:53,479 --> 01:35:56,640
Speaker 1: how old it was that a Boa constrictor. I think

1864
01:35:56,680 --> 01:36:00,040
Speaker 1: it wouldn't have been safe python a python, Yeah, that

1865
01:36:00,280 --> 01:36:03,560
Speaker 1: it wouldn't have been safe on her, like go away, no,

1866
01:36:03,960 --> 01:36:06,160
Speaker 1: don't bring that into a building. There was an interview

1867
01:36:06,240 --> 01:36:07,439
Speaker 1: with her and they were like, would you ever do

1868
01:36:07,520 --> 01:36:09,800
Speaker 1: that again? She was like, oh my god, no. Yeah.

1869
01:36:10,120 --> 01:36:11,880
Speaker 1: She was like it was really bad when I did it,

1870
01:36:12,000 --> 01:36:16,080
Speaker 1: and I didn't bad too. There's no no reason. There's

1871
01:36:16,120 --> 01:36:18,000
Speaker 1: no reason we had. I had like a little kid's

1872
01:36:18,040 --> 01:36:20,519
Speaker 1: birthday party, and like they brought out a snake one time,

1873
01:36:20,560 --> 01:36:21,960
Speaker 1: and it was like, why didn't you have a little

1874
01:36:22,000 --> 01:36:24,080
Speaker 1: kid's birthday party? It was like when I was a

1875
01:36:24,120 --> 01:36:25,920
Speaker 1: little kid, Oh, I think that you were hosting a

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01:36:25,960 --> 01:36:28,200
Speaker 1: children's birthday party. I was like, come on, kids, I'm

1877
01:36:28,240 --> 01:36:32,720
Speaker 1: having a birthday party for you. Don't admit that on air. Yes, no,

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01:36:32,840 --> 01:36:34,519
Speaker 1: But when I was little someone one of my friends

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01:36:34,560 --> 01:36:36,479
Speaker 1: had a birthday party and we couldn't get pictures taken

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01:36:36,560 --> 01:36:38,439
Speaker 1: with like the big yellow snakes. Was like sitting on

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01:36:38,479 --> 01:36:41,800
Speaker 1: our shoulders. That's discussing and I think it's wrong too.

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01:36:41,880 --> 01:36:44,240
Speaker 1: For to the snake. I mean, I hate snakes, but

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01:36:44,280 --> 01:36:46,880
Speaker 1: I still think they should be forced to do that. Yeah,

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01:36:46,960 --> 01:36:49,680
Speaker 1: it's like they should be alive with their dignity or

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01:36:50,080 --> 01:36:52,479
Speaker 1: murder with their Just put them all on an island.

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01:36:52,840 --> 01:36:55,839
Speaker 1: Like literally, Australia is like a Jurassic Park. Yes, exactly,

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01:36:55,920 --> 01:36:58,599
Speaker 1: that's exactly what I was thinking. Oh, Australia is actually

1888
01:36:58,680 --> 01:37:00,680
Speaker 1: perfect for snakes. Well there's still uns of them there,

1889
01:37:00,800 --> 01:37:03,720
Speaker 1: but because there's tons of the kangaroo populations get out

1890
01:37:03,760 --> 01:37:07,200
Speaker 1: of control unfortunately, maybe the snakes can bite the kangaroos

1891
01:37:07,920 --> 01:37:11,559
Speaker 1: rather more kangaroos than more snakes. But apparently kangaroos are

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01:37:11,640 --> 01:37:15,160
Speaker 1: like not so nice, their nightmare and they're they're basically

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01:37:15,320 --> 01:37:18,360
Speaker 1: Australian people consider them to be like rodents. Yeah, either

1894
01:37:18,520 --> 01:37:20,240
Speaker 1: like the deers when you go to Long when you

1895
01:37:20,280 --> 01:37:22,519
Speaker 1: go to Fire Island and there's like so many fucking deer.

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01:37:22,720 --> 01:37:25,840
Speaker 1: But but they like literally they can punch you. They're

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01:37:25,880 --> 01:37:28,760
Speaker 1: like really aggressive, whereas a deer it just run away

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01:37:28,760 --> 01:37:30,200
Speaker 1: from you. Oh my god. I just remember that a

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01:37:30,280 --> 01:37:32,559
Speaker 1: kangaroo is a marsupial and therefore it's not a mammal

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01:37:32,640 --> 01:37:36,080
Speaker 1: and you can't get on its level it's so important.

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01:37:36,240 --> 01:37:38,639
Speaker 1: I had a kangaroo as a publicist for a couple

1902
01:37:38,680 --> 01:37:42,040
Speaker 1: of years and she just she didn't understand. Just no,

1903
01:37:42,600 --> 01:37:44,720
Speaker 1: she just we could never communicate. She didn't get it.

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01:37:44,880 --> 01:37:48,880
Speaker 1: She didn't quote unquote get it. That kangaroo did not

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01:37:49,000 --> 01:37:51,880
Speaker 1: get ahead of the chapter in the book. She did not.

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01:37:52,120 --> 01:37:55,240
Speaker 1: She did not. Before we spin off into a whole

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01:37:55,280 --> 01:37:59,719
Speaker 1: other podcast about marsupials and reptiles and the animal kingdom,

1908
01:38:00,000 --> 01:38:01,720
Speaker 1: we should probably wrap up. We should wrap up a

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01:38:02,240 --> 01:38:05,040
Speaker 1: talk talking about these animals. Really, it makes me want

1910
01:38:05,080 --> 01:38:07,639
Speaker 1: to trip on acid someday. With Jeffrey out of zoo,

1911
01:38:07,840 --> 01:38:09,960
Speaker 1: I was like, I would love to literally the two

1912
01:38:10,000 --> 01:38:12,040
Speaker 1: of us should fly out there and you can recreate.

1913
01:38:14,520 --> 01:38:20,519
Speaker 1: But t is very good. Un't go anywhere else, but

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01:38:20,720 --> 01:38:23,320
Speaker 1: there's going to an aquarium. Although see, animals scare me

1915
01:38:23,400 --> 01:38:26,599
Speaker 1: more surely, yes, because they're unpredictable, the way they move,

1916
01:38:26,680 --> 01:38:29,000
Speaker 1: the way they move. Jeffrey, we love you so much.

1917
01:38:29,080 --> 01:38:30,320
Speaker 1: I love you so much, Thank you so much for

1918
01:38:30,400 --> 01:38:32,400
Speaker 1: having me. I just I'm such a fan. We've been

1919
01:38:32,479 --> 01:38:34,720
Speaker 1: trying to get you at well because you're here and

1920
01:38:34,800 --> 01:38:36,760
Speaker 1: I'm you know, you know what I was going to

1921
01:38:36,840 --> 01:38:38,479
Speaker 1: try to do the live one in l A. But

1922
01:38:38,560 --> 01:38:41,559
Speaker 1: it didn't work out. I was hopefully December. Okay, let's

1923
01:38:41,560 --> 01:38:43,280
Speaker 1: make that happen. Let's make it happen. Um, we love

1924
01:38:43,320 --> 01:38:46,439
Speaker 1: you so much, Jeffrey, Thank you so much. Please check

1925
01:38:46,520 --> 01:38:51,120
Speaker 1: Jeffrey out on on every great gay show, Truly Difficult People,

1926
01:38:51,160 --> 01:38:54,200
Speaker 1: thirty Rock, Search, Party that You're Out, classically a gay show,

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01:38:54,320 --> 01:38:57,160
Speaker 1: classically a GI I mean actually yes, there's there's there's

1928
01:38:57,160 --> 01:38:59,479
Speaker 1: a queer aspect to it. Yeah, some good gig characters.

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01:38:59,560 --> 01:39:01,840
Speaker 1: I love that. Um uh well, and we have to

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Speaker 1: close out with this song as always some laball we

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Speaker 1: can't do this, we can't do this by This has

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Speaker 1: been a Forever Dog production executive produced by Brett Baham,

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01:39:25,680 --> 01:39:30,479
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