1 00:00:05,920 --> 00:00:09,480 Speaker 1: God is dead and the woke left have killed him. 2 00:00:09,640 --> 00:00:12,960 Speaker 1: Welcome to it could happen here the podcast where we 3 00:00:13,039 --> 00:00:17,720 Speaker 1: celebrate the destruction of JayR. Bolsonaro and the concept of 4 00:00:17,800 --> 00:00:21,840 Speaker 1: Christianity and the human soul, both of which happened recently 5 00:00:22,280 --> 00:00:26,160 Speaker 1: in Brazil. As as far as I understand from skimming 6 00:00:26,200 --> 00:00:30,720 Speaker 1: the news on Twitter. Um, how's everybody else doing today? 7 00:00:33,280 --> 00:00:36,800 Speaker 1: Utterly exhausted? But you know, such as such as, such 8 00:00:36,800 --> 00:00:42,240 Speaker 1: as such as the world without Christ destroyed. Yeah, that's 9 00:00:42,280 --> 00:00:46,159 Speaker 1: what That's what the woke mob did. Speaking of woke mobs, 10 00:00:47,000 --> 00:00:48,800 Speaker 1: what are we what are we doing today? What are 11 00:00:48,800 --> 00:00:52,479 Speaker 1: we talking about? We are talking more about the Brazilian elections. 12 00:00:52,760 --> 00:00:56,280 Speaker 1: I guess we should start with our with our perennial 13 00:00:56,400 --> 00:00:59,280 Speaker 1: update about what seems to be happening there right now. 14 00:01:00,000 --> 00:01:05,840 Speaker 1: So okay, currently is what eleven am specific time recording 15 00:01:05,840 --> 00:01:10,880 Speaker 1: this on Yeah that sounds right? Yeah, yeah that one. 16 00:01:11,200 --> 00:01:14,640 Speaker 1: So as of right now, bolson like still so he 17 00:01:14,640 --> 00:01:22,480 Speaker 1: he's appeared, but he still hasn't conceded the election. Um hasn't. Yeah, 18 00:01:22,640 --> 00:01:27,200 Speaker 1: And okay, so the other thing that's been going on 19 00:01:27,480 --> 00:01:29,600 Speaker 1: is that there's been okause one of the sort of 20 00:01:29,640 --> 00:01:33,920 Speaker 1: perennial Boston Bolson Arrow things is that he has a 21 00:01:33,959 --> 00:01:37,560 Speaker 1: bunch of support among a bunch of sort of like 22 00:01:37,560 --> 00:01:39,839 Speaker 1: like a bunch of different sort of like kinds of truckers, 23 00:01:40,440 --> 00:01:42,399 Speaker 1: And there's been a bunch of this before. He's been 24 00:01:42,400 --> 00:01:46,440 Speaker 1: setting up a bunch of barricades. I okay, from from 25 00:01:46,480 --> 00:01:50,320 Speaker 1: talking to people on the ground and from what I've 26 00:01:50,320 --> 00:01:54,000 Speaker 1: seen from it, I I don't know. It's hard to 27 00:01:54,000 --> 00:01:57,240 Speaker 1: get It's hard to gauge like how serious these like 28 00:01:58,200 --> 00:02:01,920 Speaker 1: actually hard blockades. I've seen videos of some that involved 29 00:02:01,960 --> 00:02:04,440 Speaker 1: several dozen vehicles. Yeah, I mean they have a lot 30 00:02:04,480 --> 00:02:08,400 Speaker 1: of vehicles, like as as the thing. Okay, so the 31 00:02:08,680 --> 00:02:13,040 Speaker 1: Supreme Court has ordered the police to like clear the barricades, 32 00:02:13,480 --> 00:02:16,560 Speaker 1: and as best I can tell, they're kind of just 33 00:02:17,000 --> 00:02:23,600 Speaker 1: getting their asses kicked, like they're not really resisting like 34 00:02:24,120 --> 00:02:27,639 Speaker 1: particularly hard. And so I I don't know if this 35 00:02:27,720 --> 00:02:30,440 Speaker 1: is like yeah, it's I mean, it's the kind of 36 00:02:30,480 --> 00:02:35,040 Speaker 1: thing that it will present perhaps a model for other 37 00:02:35,080 --> 00:02:37,680 Speaker 1: people in the future, if there's any efficacy to it. 38 00:02:38,000 --> 00:02:41,600 Speaker 1: It certainly could be part of an effective coup, like 39 00:02:41,720 --> 00:02:46,000 Speaker 1: locking down the roads in this way, Like this is 40 00:02:46,000 --> 00:02:50,680 Speaker 1: how like the against end started. For example, if both 41 00:02:50,680 --> 00:02:55,240 Speaker 1: Signaro and his in the military don't both go in 42 00:02:55,400 --> 00:02:59,520 Speaker 1: a d percent right now, basically, um than than what 43 00:02:59,600 --> 00:03:02,839 Speaker 1: these suckers are doing will not be it much more 44 00:03:02,880 --> 00:03:05,360 Speaker 1: than like an annoyance. You know. It's the same thing 45 00:03:05,400 --> 00:03:09,400 Speaker 1: as with with January six. If Trump when they breached 46 00:03:09,560 --> 00:03:13,000 Speaker 1: the capital, if Trump had declared I'm remaining president, everybody 47 00:03:13,120 --> 00:03:16,480 Speaker 1: rise up, well, then a whole thing might have happened. Um, 48 00:03:16,520 --> 00:03:20,440 Speaker 1: but he didn't, and so the momentum that might have 49 00:03:20,760 --> 00:03:23,640 Speaker 1: kind of led into a more thorough takeover of the 50 00:03:23,680 --> 00:03:28,000 Speaker 1: government fizzled out with a bunch of guys getting you know, 51 00:03:28,160 --> 00:03:31,200 Speaker 1: into fist fights with the Capitol police and ship. Yeah. 52 00:03:31,240 --> 00:03:33,480 Speaker 1: And and there's an aspect I think to a sort 53 00:03:33,520 --> 00:03:36,480 Speaker 1: of important of like so these are like Wilson Row 54 00:03:36,680 --> 00:03:40,640 Speaker 1: Like this whole sort of like Trucker's blockade thing, like 55 00:03:40,720 --> 00:03:43,080 Speaker 1: this has been going on in various forms for like 56 00:03:43,280 --> 00:03:46,120 Speaker 1: the entire time he's been in office, and like he 57 00:03:46,640 --> 00:03:48,680 Speaker 1: sort of turned them into these motor caides that he 58 00:03:48,680 --> 00:03:52,440 Speaker 1: would do. But they're really weird in that Like, okay, 59 00:03:52,440 --> 00:03:54,360 Speaker 1: so if they are blocking roads, but a lot of 60 00:03:54,400 --> 00:03:57,840 Speaker 1: it is kind of pure spectacle. There's this whole wave 61 00:03:57,880 --> 00:04:01,960 Speaker 1: of sort of right wing candidates like like basically, but 62 00:04:02,000 --> 00:04:03,840 Speaker 1: like there's there's a whole winks with the greating politicians 63 00:04:03,840 --> 00:04:08,040 Speaker 1: who like got their start from like doing Instagram videos 64 00:04:08,680 --> 00:04:11,400 Speaker 1: from like or like TikTok like ship like whatever, like 65 00:04:12,000 --> 00:04:14,640 Speaker 1: basically like from these blockades. So like, I don't know, 66 00:04:14,720 --> 00:04:16,839 Speaker 1: they don't they don't seem to be like as of 67 00:04:16,960 --> 00:04:19,640 Speaker 1: right now. I don't think they're like an incredibly serious 68 00:04:19,640 --> 00:04:23,360 Speaker 1: fighting force. But you know, I mean, it's not good 69 00:04:23,839 --> 00:04:26,680 Speaker 1: this is happening. Um, it's also not good that the 70 00:04:26,680 --> 00:04:29,200 Speaker 1: police was like initially cooperating with them, and that the 71 00:04:29,200 --> 00:04:31,880 Speaker 1: police set up their own roadblocks to stop people voting. 72 00:04:32,520 --> 00:04:34,520 Speaker 1: So I don't know. The situation is not good, but 73 00:04:34,640 --> 00:04:38,280 Speaker 1: it's not as bad as it could be. And yeah, 74 00:04:38,320 --> 00:04:40,200 Speaker 1: and I you know, I want to reiterate that, like 75 00:04:40,440 --> 00:04:43,160 Speaker 1: the US has recognized that Lula has won the election, 76 00:04:43,360 --> 00:04:47,200 Speaker 1: which I think makes it like infinitely harder. Yes, the 77 00:04:47,279 --> 00:04:51,200 Speaker 1: fact that and this is this is one of those 78 00:04:51,200 --> 00:04:53,440 Speaker 1: things when people on the left talk about like is 79 00:04:53,480 --> 00:04:57,040 Speaker 1: there a harm reduction point and voting, Well, this is 80 00:04:57,120 --> 00:04:59,719 Speaker 1: harm reduction, right, because if Trump had been in office, 81 00:04:59,800 --> 00:05:02,360 Speaker 1: he would have backed Bolson Yarrow and Lula would be 82 00:05:02,400 --> 00:05:06,200 Speaker 1: in prison again and Uh, there would be absolutely no 83 00:05:06,320 --> 00:05:08,960 Speaker 1: hope for stemming the destruction of the rainforest. Not that 84 00:05:09,000 --> 00:05:13,560 Speaker 1: things could still be a nightmare. And don't get me wrong, 85 00:05:13,720 --> 00:05:18,160 Speaker 1: but we've we've at least avoided the most obvious way 86 00:05:18,240 --> 00:05:21,200 Speaker 1: things could have been a disaster. Yeah, although I I 87 00:05:21,240 --> 00:05:23,840 Speaker 1: do want to point out that the Obama administration had 88 00:05:23,880 --> 00:05:28,520 Speaker 1: a huge role in like this entire ship. It should 89 00:05:28,520 --> 00:05:31,440 Speaker 1: be fair. The administration I don't think was trying to 90 00:05:31,440 --> 00:05:33,359 Speaker 1: put Bollsonarow in power. They were trying to put the 91 00:05:33,360 --> 00:05:38,040 Speaker 1: nee liberal rules in power. But they definitely we'll get 92 00:05:38,040 --> 00:05:41,880 Speaker 1: into that next episode, but they definitely helped get us here. No, 93 00:05:42,040 --> 00:05:45,880 Speaker 1: I mean that's true, and it also follows in the 94 00:05:45,960 --> 00:05:50,360 Speaker 1: continually building story that like Biden's actually a much better 95 00:05:50,440 --> 00:05:55,520 Speaker 1: precedent than Barack Obama. Yeah, low bar, but I mean 96 00:05:55,600 --> 00:05:59,279 Speaker 1: indibly low bar, because Barack Obama led directly to Donald 97 00:05:59,279 --> 00:06:02,400 Speaker 1: Trump for of a iety of reason. There you are. 98 00:06:04,680 --> 00:06:07,760 Speaker 1: This is this is a weird world that we live in. Yeah, 99 00:06:07,800 --> 00:06:11,400 Speaker 1: and it's it's also like people are now starting you know, rightfully, 100 00:06:11,400 --> 00:06:13,440 Speaker 1: so I know we're gonna be talking about a bunch 101 00:06:13,480 --> 00:06:17,160 Speaker 1: of funked up stuff about Lula um most recently, kind 102 00:06:17,160 --> 00:06:20,159 Speaker 1: of bringing up his very bad takes on Ukraine. But 103 00:06:20,240 --> 00:06:23,920 Speaker 1: it's also like I don't care, Like, obviously, I think 104 00:06:24,360 --> 00:06:27,159 Speaker 1: I would always like for people to have if they're 105 00:06:27,200 --> 00:06:30,599 Speaker 1: going to have a representative democracy, better leaders. But at 106 00:06:30,600 --> 00:06:34,720 Speaker 1: the end of the day, like the rainforest being destroyed, 107 00:06:34,720 --> 00:06:37,400 Speaker 1: at the rate it's being destroy it's an existential, existential 108 00:06:37,440 --> 00:06:39,520 Speaker 1: threat to all life on Earth, and Lula has a 109 00:06:39,560 --> 00:06:42,560 Speaker 1: proven track record of reducing defores station in the Amazon. 110 00:06:43,640 --> 00:06:45,839 Speaker 1: So like what I like, I don't care that he 111 00:06:45,880 --> 00:06:48,480 Speaker 1: has a bad take on you. I just don't like it. 112 00:06:48,800 --> 00:06:51,560 Speaker 1: It doesn't matter really, Yeah, yeah, I like I saw, 113 00:06:51,600 --> 00:06:53,760 Speaker 1: I saw I saw articles that were like Lula like 114 00:06:54,040 --> 00:06:57,320 Speaker 1: supports democracy in Brazil but supports authoritarianism abroad. It's like, 115 00:06:57,320 --> 00:07:00,600 Speaker 1: I guys, shut up, like holy shit, Jesus Christ, Like 116 00:07:00,880 --> 00:07:03,600 Speaker 1: I can I if I go back to two thousand, 117 00:07:04,040 --> 00:07:07,599 Speaker 1: like seventeen, I can find all of you like writing 118 00:07:07,600 --> 00:07:10,280 Speaker 1: pulled fucking probos and our articles, So like shut up. 119 00:07:11,320 --> 00:07:15,480 Speaker 1: So okay, So let's get to how everything went to ship. 120 00:07:15,840 --> 00:07:19,040 Speaker 1: So the last episode we sort of left the pt 121 00:07:19,280 --> 00:07:24,040 Speaker 1: like writing high. Lula's out with like a like approve 122 00:07:24,080 --> 00:07:28,960 Speaker 1: of rating. He's done like an economic miracle. He's pulled 123 00:07:29,000 --> 00:07:32,480 Speaker 1: one of people out of poverty. I and you know, 124 00:07:32,560 --> 00:07:35,400 Speaker 1: if things that continued like that, we wouldn't be here 125 00:07:35,480 --> 00:07:41,120 Speaker 1: right now. So obviously something happened. And to understand what happens, unfortunately, 126 00:07:41,160 --> 00:07:44,520 Speaker 1: we have to do some materialism. Um okay, so bear 127 00:07:44,560 --> 00:07:46,400 Speaker 1: with me. Through the materialism, my promise, we're going to 128 00:07:46,440 --> 00:07:49,160 Speaker 1: get to a bunch of like absolutely horrific crimes against humanity. 129 00:07:49,360 --> 00:07:51,280 Speaker 1: But first we needed you a bit of my love 130 00:07:51,400 --> 00:07:55,000 Speaker 1: crimes against humanity. Yeah, yeah, there it's there. There are 131 00:07:55,040 --> 00:08:00,160 Speaker 1: lots of criming there. There, it's Oh boy, I'm I'm 132 00:08:00,200 --> 00:08:06,119 Speaker 1: already hard. Wait, maybe I shouldn't have said it that way, moving, 133 00:08:06,160 --> 00:08:12,240 Speaker 1: moving swiftly on. So okay, I'm gonna I'm gonna quote 134 00:08:12,240 --> 00:08:15,440 Speaker 1: here from one of the sort of more famous marks 135 00:08:15,520 --> 00:08:19,800 Speaker 1: quotes formation through beare Uh. That is genuinely a very 136 00:08:19,800 --> 00:08:22,760 Speaker 1: good way of understanding history, which is, men make their 137 00:08:22,760 --> 00:08:24,560 Speaker 1: own history, but they do not make it as they 138 00:08:24,600 --> 00:08:28,280 Speaker 1: please do. They do not make it under self selective circumstances, 139 00:08:28,320 --> 00:08:31,960 Speaker 1: but under circumstances are existing, already given and transmitted from 140 00:08:32,000 --> 00:08:35,640 Speaker 1: the past. So okay, what what what are the circumstances 141 00:08:35,679 --> 00:08:40,680 Speaker 1: that like two thousand two Lula is inheriting um. Lula's 142 00:08:40,679 --> 00:08:43,680 Speaker 1: sort of social democratic plan is able to sort of 143 00:08:43,679 --> 00:08:46,240 Speaker 1: grow the economy and also pay off the ruling class 144 00:08:46,280 --> 00:08:48,800 Speaker 1: to be able to stay in power at the same 145 00:08:48,840 --> 00:08:51,080 Speaker 1: time because of something called the commodity boom. UM. A 146 00:08:51,080 --> 00:08:54,880 Speaker 1: commodity boom broadly is this like it's a large spike 147 00:08:56,080 --> 00:08:58,360 Speaker 1: across the board in the prices of commodities over a 148 00:08:58,360 --> 00:09:01,240 Speaker 1: sort of period of time where we're using this sort 149 00:09:01,280 --> 00:09:05,079 Speaker 1: of like mainstream bourgeois definition of commodity, which is like 150 00:09:05,960 --> 00:09:08,200 Speaker 1: primary commodity is and it's stuff you can like pick 151 00:09:08,280 --> 00:09:11,160 Speaker 1: up off the ground, dig up or harvest. So it's 152 00:09:11,160 --> 00:09:18,240 Speaker 1: things like soybeans, like copper, iron, horses, lead um, condoms. Yes, 153 00:09:18,520 --> 00:09:24,240 Speaker 1: we understand what commodities are. Yes, the look Brazil condom tree. 154 00:09:24,320 --> 00:09:27,560 Speaker 1: I don't know, I got nothing, So okay Lula Lula 155 00:09:27,679 --> 00:09:32,280 Speaker 1: like takes office and leaves power like almost exactly perfectly 156 00:09:32,320 --> 00:09:33,800 Speaker 1: to take to take advantage of the peak of the 157 00:09:33,840 --> 00:09:37,640 Speaker 1: commodity boom. Right, Lula comes into power. Well, okay, so 158 00:09:37,679 --> 00:09:39,679 Speaker 1: you wouldn't seals in two election he takes obviously ausn't 159 00:09:39,720 --> 00:09:43,319 Speaker 1: three um the commodity boom. According to a Cambridge to 160 00:09:43,440 --> 00:09:46,560 Speaker 1: Cambridge is a handbook of primary commodities in the global economy. 161 00:09:46,840 --> 00:09:48,600 Speaker 1: Took off a two thousand four and ended in about 162 00:09:48,600 --> 00:09:51,960 Speaker 1: two thousand fourteen. But it's slowing by ten just eleven 163 00:09:52,040 --> 00:09:55,079 Speaker 1: ish and Lula exits office and he doesn't tend to 164 00:09:55,240 --> 00:09:57,600 Speaker 1: the two term limit, which means he never has to 165 00:09:57,640 --> 00:10:01,280 Speaker 1: deal with the consequences of the downturn. And let's stop 166 00:10:01,320 --> 00:10:03,720 Speaker 1: here for a second. How do term limits work in 167 00:10:03,760 --> 00:10:06,560 Speaker 1: the Brazilian system, because it's not the same as here here, 168 00:10:06,559 --> 00:10:08,640 Speaker 1: like a term limit means you get your two as 169 00:10:08,720 --> 00:10:12,439 Speaker 1: president and then you're done. Yeah, so I I okay, 170 00:10:12,440 --> 00:10:14,440 Speaker 1: so the way I think it works, and I could 171 00:10:14,440 --> 00:10:17,480 Speaker 1: be wrong about this, but I'm sure the way it works. Okay, 172 00:10:17,480 --> 00:10:20,200 Speaker 1: So you can have two terms and then you can't 173 00:10:20,280 --> 00:10:23,160 Speaker 1: run again in a row, but if if like someone 174 00:10:23,200 --> 00:10:25,600 Speaker 1: else comes in, you can then run again after that. 175 00:10:25,640 --> 00:10:27,040 Speaker 1: It's just that you can only do two in a row. 176 00:10:27,360 --> 00:10:30,080 Speaker 1: I mean, I'm happy that he's beaten Bolson Naro, but 177 00:10:30,120 --> 00:10:32,560 Speaker 1: that is a very silly way to do it. Yeah. Well, 178 00:10:32,559 --> 00:10:35,440 Speaker 1: and I will say something about this is something about 179 00:10:35,520 --> 00:10:39,280 Speaker 1: Lula that, like, I think, kind of infuriates a lot 180 00:10:39,360 --> 00:10:43,679 Speaker 1: of the people who like don't like him politically and 181 00:10:43,920 --> 00:10:46,439 Speaker 1: want to sort of screaming, but his authoritarianism or whatever, 182 00:10:46,640 --> 00:10:52,040 Speaker 1: like he he was always like like mostly really scrupulous 183 00:10:52,040 --> 00:10:54,199 Speaker 1: about the sort of like democratic norm stuff. Like he 184 00:10:54,480 --> 00:10:57,040 Speaker 1: a lot of other sort of like pink tied leaders 185 00:10:57,040 --> 00:10:58,480 Speaker 1: in the same position. Like this is actually how even 186 00:10:58,480 --> 00:11:01,480 Speaker 1: moralies originally gets in trouble is that he tries to 187 00:11:01,520 --> 00:11:04,720 Speaker 1: seek a third term and Lula, it's just like not 188 00:11:04,840 --> 00:11:09,720 Speaker 1: I'm out, I'm fuck it, Like which is which is good? Yeah, 189 00:11:09,840 --> 00:11:13,319 Speaker 1: I mean it kind of like on the one hand, 190 00:11:16,040 --> 00:11:17,920 Speaker 1: and so in theoretical terms, this is sort of like 191 00:11:17,920 --> 00:11:21,120 Speaker 1: good for Brazilian democracy, etcetera, etcetera. In practical terms, it's 192 00:11:21,160 --> 00:11:24,200 Speaker 1: kind of a disaster. I mean it's it's good because 193 00:11:24,360 --> 00:11:27,840 Speaker 1: I think that it's always good when popular leaders acknowledge 194 00:11:28,120 --> 00:11:33,199 Speaker 1: like absolute limits. But yeah, I mean the timing wasn't ideal. Yeah, 195 00:11:33,240 --> 00:11:37,760 Speaker 1: and you know it, but you know, okay, so like 196 00:11:37,800 --> 00:11:39,600 Speaker 1: the but the reason that he's able to sort of 197 00:11:39,679 --> 00:11:42,160 Speaker 1: like you know, like if he if he if like 198 00:11:42,200 --> 00:11:43,760 Speaker 1: if the constitution had allow him to run for a 199 00:11:43,800 --> 00:11:46,400 Speaker 1: third term, he would have just like like he would 200 00:11:46,400 --> 00:11:49,720 Speaker 1: have clabbored everyone. There's there's just not even like any 201 00:11:49,760 --> 00:11:52,200 Speaker 1: remote competition to him and the reason he is able 202 00:11:52,240 --> 00:11:58,080 Speaker 1: to do this again, it's like boom, guy he got 203 00:11:58,080 --> 00:12:00,360 Speaker 1: he got like ten percent less of the vote this time. 204 00:12:01,000 --> 00:12:04,760 Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, but what was that? Yeah? Okay, like 205 00:12:05,400 --> 00:12:08,720 Speaker 1: this election was like really close. You think about this 206 00:12:08,760 --> 00:12:12,560 Speaker 1: most recent one about back then? Yeah, yeah, lu Lula 207 00:12:12,600 --> 00:12:16,280 Speaker 1: back then like literally unstoppable political very very popular at 208 00:12:16,360 --> 00:12:18,800 Speaker 1: this point. Yeah. But but this is because of the 209 00:12:18,840 --> 00:12:21,360 Speaker 1: commodity boom, and we need to in order to understand 210 00:12:21,440 --> 00:12:22,840 Speaker 1: what is going to happen to the PT, we need 211 00:12:22,880 --> 00:12:26,120 Speaker 1: to understand why the commodity will happen in the first place. Um, 212 00:12:26,280 --> 00:12:28,440 Speaker 1: this turns out to be very important. There's there's a 213 00:12:28,480 --> 00:12:30,800 Speaker 1: lot of causes technically that have to do with a 214 00:12:30,840 --> 00:12:36,800 Speaker 1: lot of complicated macro economic stuff. The single most important cause, um, 215 00:12:36,960 --> 00:12:39,360 Speaker 1: for us, and I think generally, the one that is 216 00:12:39,400 --> 00:12:41,800 Speaker 1: like is credited with the reason that these commodity prices 217 00:12:41,840 --> 00:12:45,000 Speaker 1: are increasing, is the skyrocketing growth of the Chinese economy 218 00:12:45,040 --> 00:12:47,800 Speaker 1: in two thousand's um. And I mean when I say 219 00:12:47,800 --> 00:12:50,120 Speaker 1: a sky rockey and growth, like we are talking like 220 00:12:50,320 --> 00:12:53,840 Speaker 1: double digit GDP increases every year. This is like when 221 00:12:53,840 --> 00:12:56,240 Speaker 1: they have that Olympics where they have all the drummers, 222 00:12:56,280 --> 00:13:00,160 Speaker 1: and you have that Newsweek article about how scary China is. 223 00:13:00,200 --> 00:13:04,400 Speaker 1: Maybe it's um yes, and and you know, and the 224 00:13:04,760 --> 00:13:07,040 Speaker 1: sort of the massive increase industrial production like they are 225 00:13:07,840 --> 00:13:12,600 Speaker 1: the CCP is like like Chinese industrializing on a scale 226 00:13:12,679 --> 00:13:17,200 Speaker 1: that is I think like almost either too unimaginable. And 227 00:13:17,520 --> 00:13:20,080 Speaker 1: this means, you know, there's an enormous increase in demand 228 00:13:20,120 --> 00:13:23,440 Speaker 1: for primary commodities. But this boom was only sustainable as 229 00:13:23,440 --> 00:13:25,600 Speaker 1: long as the Chinese economy can maintain something like double 230 00:13:25,640 --> 00:13:29,199 Speaker 1: digit GDP growth. But the problem is after shels eight, 231 00:13:29,200 --> 00:13:31,520 Speaker 1: the Chinese economy starts too slow and sort of in 232 00:13:31,559 --> 00:13:34,400 Speaker 1: response to this, and she does nine, the CCP does 233 00:13:34,440 --> 00:13:38,840 Speaker 1: like one of the largest stimulus projects ever and they 234 00:13:38,880 --> 00:13:42,520 Speaker 1: spend four trillion R and B on like infrastructure and 235 00:13:42,559 --> 00:13:45,599 Speaker 1: welfare programs to stave off a recession, and it works. 236 00:13:46,600 --> 00:13:51,160 Speaker 1: But you know, like they this is this is like 237 00:13:51,200 --> 00:13:58,280 Speaker 1: the largest like stimulus program ever and it can't really 238 00:13:58,360 --> 00:14:02,800 Speaker 1: keep the economy growing like every ever since two every 239 00:14:02,800 --> 00:14:07,680 Speaker 1: single year well okay, I excluding the weird rebound stuff 240 00:14:07,679 --> 00:14:10,840 Speaker 1: in one, but like like every every single year, like 241 00:14:10,880 --> 00:14:12,880 Speaker 1: year on your growth or the rate of growth of 242 00:14:12,880 --> 00:14:17,920 Speaker 1: the Chinese economy, has been decreasing, right, and okay, well 243 00:14:17,960 --> 00:14:21,000 Speaker 1: the commodity boom you know is produced by by feeling, 244 00:14:21,240 --> 00:14:25,400 Speaker 1: you know, by by increased Chinese demand. But okay, what 245 00:14:25,520 --> 00:14:28,920 Speaker 1: happens but when that you know isn't true. Um, but 246 00:14:28,920 --> 00:14:30,680 Speaker 1: but you know, okay, so in in in the two 247 00:14:30,720 --> 00:14:32,680 Speaker 1: in the two thousand's like this, this is great that 248 00:14:32,800 --> 00:14:34,720 Speaker 1: these are the sort of material conditions that make loopless 249 00:14:34,800 --> 00:14:39,240 Speaker 1: like politics possible. Right, you have enormous economic growth and 250 00:14:39,480 --> 00:14:42,440 Speaker 1: it bring and this economic growth is happening in sectors, 251 00:14:43,560 --> 00:14:46,000 Speaker 1: like in a very important sectors to presuli an economy 252 00:14:46,040 --> 00:14:48,000 Speaker 1: to the extent that is able to provide a revenue 253 00:14:48,040 --> 00:14:49,760 Speaker 1: a stable revenue base for the state that allows it 254 00:14:49,840 --> 00:14:52,760 Speaker 1: to fund welfare programs like and pay off the bourgeoisie, 255 00:14:52,760 --> 00:14:54,600 Speaker 1: which is you know, this is sort of like like 256 00:14:54,640 --> 00:14:58,080 Speaker 1: papering over this sort of like fundamental contradiction of of 257 00:14:58,320 --> 00:15:00,320 Speaker 1: the pt S base, right, which at they have they 258 00:15:00,360 --> 00:15:02,200 Speaker 1: have to like, they have to keep the economy running, 259 00:15:02,240 --> 00:15:04,360 Speaker 1: so they have they have to pay off a bunch 260 00:15:04,400 --> 00:15:07,800 Speaker 1: of sort of like incredibly corrupt dudes and also just 261 00:15:07,800 --> 00:15:09,800 Speaker 1: sort of like Brazilian capitalists, they also are trying to 262 00:15:09,840 --> 00:15:12,480 Speaker 1: sort of do the welfare programs. But you know, the 263 00:15:12,520 --> 00:15:16,360 Speaker 1: commodity boom collapses and suddenly there's only enough money to 264 00:15:16,440 --> 00:15:18,720 Speaker 1: either pay the capitalists or pay the workers and not both, 265 00:15:19,480 --> 00:15:22,600 Speaker 1: and the project becomes to collapse. And and this this 266 00:15:22,680 --> 00:15:27,520 Speaker 1: happens across Latin America. Um like that, Like I would 267 00:15:27,560 --> 00:15:29,560 Speaker 1: make the argument that like the end of the commodity boom, 268 00:15:29,600 --> 00:15:32,000 Speaker 1: like is the reaper that came from the Latin American left. 269 00:15:32,040 --> 00:15:34,480 Speaker 1: It is at least as important, if not more so, 270 00:15:34,920 --> 00:15:36,640 Speaker 1: in the collapse of the sort of the pink tide 271 00:15:36,680 --> 00:15:39,000 Speaker 1: over over the course of the dozen tends. Like then 272 00:15:39,080 --> 00:15:42,280 Speaker 1: the actual CIA, like the CIA is very heavily involved 273 00:15:42,280 --> 00:15:46,200 Speaker 1: in this. But the commodity boom just sort of like 274 00:15:46,560 --> 00:15:49,920 Speaker 1: just nuking all of these economies like coming to an 275 00:15:49,960 --> 00:15:54,920 Speaker 1: end like that that is an enormously important, uh sort 276 00:15:54,960 --> 00:15:57,440 Speaker 1: of like like element of this entire story. And there's 277 00:15:57,440 --> 00:15:59,120 Speaker 1: all there's so there's another thing that we should note, 278 00:15:59,160 --> 00:16:02,280 Speaker 1: which is that there's a problem them with organizing your 279 00:16:02,440 --> 00:16:05,600 Speaker 1: economy to be sort of like in a way that's 280 00:16:05,640 --> 00:16:10,000 Speaker 1: reliant on sort of like primary commodity like export production. 281 00:16:10,560 --> 00:16:14,080 Speaker 1: A Handbook of Primary Commodities and the Global Economy specifically 282 00:16:14,160 --> 00:16:18,760 Speaker 1: notes quote brazil significance and coffee, cotton, iron ore, sugar, 283 00:16:18,800 --> 00:16:21,720 Speaker 1: and tobacco, and Chile has a dominant exporter of coffee. 284 00:16:21,800 --> 00:16:25,200 Speaker 1: So okay, Brazil exports like eleven percent of the world's cotton, 285 00:16:25,240 --> 00:16:28,000 Speaker 1: twenty percent of the world's iron oreft of its coffee, 286 00:16:28,360 --> 00:16:31,600 Speaker 1: it's sugar, and eighteen percent of it's tobacco um and 287 00:16:31,760 --> 00:16:34,240 Speaker 1: also has an enormous cattle industry, has got like a 288 00:16:34,280 --> 00:16:36,720 Speaker 1: bunch of soybean farming, which is actually really important because 289 00:16:37,480 --> 00:16:40,680 Speaker 1: it turns out as trying to get it turns people 290 00:16:41,000 --> 00:16:46,560 Speaker 1: into into into soy boys. Yeah. It also makes soy sauce, 291 00:16:46,600 --> 00:16:49,040 Speaker 1: which is are are very important for it. I mean 292 00:16:49,080 --> 00:16:53,360 Speaker 1: more importantly, are reserves of of beta coc energy would 293 00:16:53,360 --> 00:16:57,000 Speaker 1: be disastrously low if if we didn't have Brazilian soy. 294 00:16:57,160 --> 00:17:00,040 Speaker 1: So thank you Jay your bolton yaro for keeping the 295 00:17:00,120 --> 00:17:03,640 Speaker 1: say flowing. Yeah, well, I mean this this is sort 296 00:17:03,640 --> 00:17:05,040 Speaker 1: of like like this is a joke, Like this is 297 00:17:05,080 --> 00:17:08,320 Speaker 1: this is sort of the issue with this, right, Like okay, 298 00:17:08,440 --> 00:17:12,080 Speaker 1: so politically this is a There's also a massive timber 299 00:17:12,119 --> 00:17:15,560 Speaker 1: industry which has been literally destroying the entire planet. But like, okay, 300 00:17:15,560 --> 00:17:19,359 Speaker 1: so like she just thinking if you know anything about sugar, coffee, cotton, 301 00:17:19,440 --> 00:17:24,199 Speaker 1: and tobacco. You know those are slavery crops and you know, 302 00:17:24,240 --> 00:17:26,359 Speaker 1: like these are these are like the primary exports of 303 00:17:26,440 --> 00:17:31,280 Speaker 1: plantation economy, and the people who run those kind of 304 00:17:31,320 --> 00:17:33,880 Speaker 1: like like economies. The people who are like those plantation 305 00:17:33,880 --> 00:17:37,600 Speaker 1: owners are like the scariest people who have ever lived anywhere, 306 00:17:37,680 --> 00:17:41,199 Speaker 1: like at any time on Earth. And you know, in Brazil, 307 00:17:41,240 --> 00:17:44,240 Speaker 1: these people have been in power for five years. And 308 00:17:44,320 --> 00:17:47,880 Speaker 1: unfortunately this is like a big part of what sort 309 00:17:47,880 --> 00:17:51,120 Speaker 1: of lose economic miracle is resting on and and and 310 00:17:51,280 --> 00:17:53,800 Speaker 1: this this isn't really like a base that produce of socialism, 311 00:17:53,840 --> 00:17:58,280 Speaker 1: Like if your economic base is relying on these like 312 00:17:58,280 --> 00:18:02,880 Speaker 1: like unbelievably psychotic racist like planter oligarchs, like you're economic 313 00:18:02,880 --> 00:18:08,879 Speaker 1: based something that creates fascism. However, Comma Robert, do you 314 00:18:08,880 --> 00:18:13,119 Speaker 1: know what else produces fascism? UM? The products and services 315 00:18:13,119 --> 00:18:16,399 Speaker 1: that support this podcast? Ding ding ding ding ding That 316 00:18:16,520 --> 00:18:21,359 Speaker 1: something like it's art fascism just directly so true. Yeah, yeah, 317 00:18:21,400 --> 00:18:24,760 Speaker 1: the Gold the Gold people probably would be would be 318 00:18:24,760 --> 00:18:29,000 Speaker 1: the main example of the UM. But we also are 319 00:18:29,080 --> 00:18:37,920 Speaker 1: sponsored by big Fascism dot org. Calm goshh it I don't. 320 00:18:37,960 --> 00:18:50,159 Speaker 1: I don't know, I don't just roll the fucking ants. Ah, 321 00:18:50,200 --> 00:18:53,480 Speaker 1: we're back, boy. That was a good ad pivot. I 322 00:18:53,520 --> 00:18:58,040 Speaker 1: hope everybody is happy. Chris, why don't you continue talking 323 00:18:58,160 --> 00:19:03,600 Speaker 1: about Lula? Yeah, so speaking of fascism, but do do do? 324 00:19:03,600 --> 00:19:09,480 Speaker 1: Do do? I was doing a yeah not not not well, 325 00:19:09,520 --> 00:19:13,520 Speaker 1: this is it's hard to hard to We'll we'll have 326 00:19:13,600 --> 00:19:17,320 Speaker 1: Daniel fix that up in post. Yeah, okay, So, so 327 00:19:17,359 --> 00:19:19,800 Speaker 1: speaking of creating fascism, yet, let's talk about that time 328 00:19:19,920 --> 00:19:24,399 Speaker 1: Lulu invaded Haiti. Al Right, well, okay, to be fair, 329 00:19:25,280 --> 00:19:31,040 Speaker 1: whoms among us hasn't invaded Haiti. This is true. That's true. 330 00:19:31,040 --> 00:19:34,040 Speaker 1: I've never made Haiti. However, the US and Canada also 331 00:19:34,200 --> 00:19:38,040 Speaker 1: and the UK that is more what I was saying. Okay, 332 00:19:38,280 --> 00:19:44,560 Speaker 1: like it's yeah, so okay. So in two thousand four, 333 00:19:44,680 --> 00:19:49,640 Speaker 1: a CIA backed coup Haiti's democratically elected leftist presidents Jane 334 00:19:49,680 --> 00:19:54,320 Speaker 1: beached aristide and initially okay, so the initial sort of 335 00:19:54,359 --> 00:19:56,640 Speaker 1: occupation force a sent in by the U N is 336 00:19:56,720 --> 00:19:59,720 Speaker 1: a US is like an American, French and Canadian force 337 00:20:00,280 --> 00:20:03,600 Speaker 1: UM and they're sent in like ostensibly under the sort 338 00:20:03,600 --> 00:20:08,760 Speaker 1: of guys of like restoring stability or whatever. Um, because 339 00:20:08,960 --> 00:20:11,480 Speaker 1: when I think about who can make Haiti stable, it's 340 00:20:11,520 --> 00:20:18,399 Speaker 1: France in the United States, Yeah, stability and Canada. Now 341 00:20:18,920 --> 00:20:22,359 Speaker 1: glad you guys, are you know, getting getting involved in 342 00:20:22,359 --> 00:20:27,959 Speaker 1: in your big brothers uh crimes against humanity? Yeah, I'm 343 00:20:28,000 --> 00:20:30,960 Speaker 1: wondering for the Canadian stuff. How how do they ship 344 00:20:30,960 --> 00:20:32,960 Speaker 1: all all of all of the mounties all the way 345 00:20:33,000 --> 00:20:37,440 Speaker 1: to Haiti? Okay, so they took theirs over the water, 346 00:20:37,520 --> 00:20:43,440 Speaker 1: Garrison built the land bridge. Yeah, allowed him to write 347 00:20:43,760 --> 00:20:45,639 Speaker 1: you know. Okay, So, but the thing about this force, 348 00:20:45,760 --> 00:20:51,159 Speaker 1: right is that like, okay, so even to like the 349 00:20:51,240 --> 00:20:55,399 Speaker 1: most casual observer having literally France in the US and 350 00:20:55,440 --> 00:20:58,159 Speaker 1: also Canada, which is like it's just the US, but 351 00:20:58,160 --> 00:21:02,240 Speaker 1: there's also a French part of it. It like literally 352 00:21:02,520 --> 00:21:09,160 Speaker 1: weird fucking sausage soup on their goddamn French fries. Like 353 00:21:09,160 --> 00:21:13,520 Speaker 1: like the optics of these people just militarily occupying Haiti 354 00:21:13,640 --> 00:21:17,680 Speaker 1: is really bad. Um. So okay, you want to trying 355 00:21:17,680 --> 00:21:21,080 Speaker 1: to figure out like a permanent force. And initially Lula 356 00:21:21,200 --> 00:21:24,680 Speaker 1: like opposes Brazil getting involved in this, which is good, 357 00:21:25,160 --> 00:21:28,800 Speaker 1: but that would make sense when I think about change, 358 00:21:29,160 --> 00:21:31,879 Speaker 1: When I think about whether or not Brazil should be 359 00:21:31,920 --> 00:21:34,960 Speaker 1: involved in places Haiti would not be the top of 360 00:21:35,000 --> 00:21:37,879 Speaker 1: my list. You know, this is always this is always 361 00:21:37,880 --> 00:21:40,000 Speaker 1: just like a really sad thing of sort of like 362 00:21:40,040 --> 00:21:42,000 Speaker 1: just like the history of Latin America of like how 363 00:21:42,000 --> 00:21:45,280 Speaker 1: many countries like, oh their existence to Haiti over and 364 00:21:45,359 --> 00:21:49,080 Speaker 1: over and over again, like sending them troops and ships 365 00:21:49,119 --> 00:21:51,040 Speaker 1: and weapons, and then every single one of these countries 366 00:21:51,080 --> 00:21:56,520 Speaker 1: are like, fuck you Haiti. So Lula like it's basically 367 00:21:56,520 --> 00:21:58,960 Speaker 1: Lola becomes convinced that like this is this is like 368 00:21:59,040 --> 00:22:02,560 Speaker 1: his big opportunity need to like build the influence of 369 00:22:02,600 --> 00:22:05,879 Speaker 1: Brazil and the international stage. And so Brazil just like 370 00:22:05,960 --> 00:22:08,480 Speaker 1: takes over the occupation or the auspices of the United 371 00:22:08,560 --> 00:22:14,000 Speaker 1: Nations Stabilization Mission in Haiti, which has the like utterly 372 00:22:14,080 --> 00:22:22,199 Speaker 1: impronounceable acronym minished or something. God damn it, guys, you 373 00:22:22,240 --> 00:22:26,800 Speaker 1: know how to do an acronym. You have enough money, Jesus, 374 00:22:27,480 --> 00:22:32,640 Speaker 1: you would think. However, Comma, no, it's this bullshit and Okay, 375 00:22:32,640 --> 00:22:34,560 Speaker 1: so apparently this is part of a plan to try 376 00:22:34,600 --> 00:22:37,080 Speaker 1: to get US and French support for a bid to 377 00:22:37,119 --> 00:22:40,560 Speaker 1: get Brazil a permanency in the UN Security Council. If 378 00:22:40,560 --> 00:22:43,119 Speaker 1: you google who is currently on the UN Security Council. 379 00:22:43,160 --> 00:22:46,600 Speaker 1: You will see how this went, which is to say, 380 00:22:46,720 --> 00:22:50,880 Speaker 1: it did not work. And ship starts going horrifically badly 381 00:22:50,920 --> 00:22:54,440 Speaker 1: almost immediately, um busy like at the outside of the occupation, 382 00:22:54,440 --> 00:22:57,159 Speaker 1: Brazilian chiefs and Haiti launched an attack on a quote 383 00:22:57,240 --> 00:23:01,520 Speaker 1: gang leader. And note, by the way, here the terminology 384 00:23:01,600 --> 00:23:05,040 Speaker 1: that he's used to describe this operation and the people, 385 00:23:05,080 --> 00:23:08,000 Speaker 1: the people that they're fighting is exactly the same way 386 00:23:08,040 --> 00:23:10,960 Speaker 1: as the paramilitary forces in Haiti are described like right 387 00:23:11,000 --> 00:23:13,200 Speaker 1: now by the U S and the U N. As 388 00:23:13,240 --> 00:23:15,600 Speaker 1: the US tries to stage another invasion, this time with 389 00:23:15,640 --> 00:23:19,480 Speaker 1: the backing of Mexico is nominally leftist president. I'm low 390 00:23:19,920 --> 00:23:25,399 Speaker 1: so uh yeah, real sort of legacy of people who 391 00:23:25,480 --> 00:23:30,400 Speaker 1: Americans think are leftists doing imperialism and Haiti. Good job, everyone, well, 392 00:23:30,440 --> 00:23:33,800 Speaker 1: everybody does a little bit of imperialism and Haiti, you know, okay, 393 00:23:33,880 --> 00:23:36,120 Speaker 1: as a treat I mean, this is the thing, right right, 394 00:23:36,600 --> 00:23:39,080 Speaker 1: every every single country in Latin America is bound and 395 00:23:39,119 --> 00:23:44,800 Speaker 1: determined to prove that you actually cannot do I contrary 396 00:23:44,840 --> 00:23:47,600 Speaker 1: to contrary sort of popular opinion about this, you actually 397 00:23:47,600 --> 00:23:50,879 Speaker 1: can't do social democracy without imperialism. And every single time 398 00:23:51,000 --> 00:23:52,639 Speaker 1: someone tries to do a social democracy, they have to 399 00:23:52,680 --> 00:23:55,960 Speaker 1: invade Haiti. It's just sort of like it's it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's. 400 00:23:55,960 --> 00:24:00,239 Speaker 1: It's in the contract here, okay. And so they they 401 00:24:00,440 --> 00:24:02,959 Speaker 1: the the un the sort of light. And by the way, 402 00:24:03,000 --> 00:24:04,720 Speaker 1: I should point out that the u N Force is 403 00:24:04,960 --> 00:24:08,240 Speaker 1: commanded by a Brazilian general. Like the entire basically wants 404 00:24:08,240 --> 00:24:10,480 Speaker 1: the Brazilians take over. It's commanded by Brazilian generals the 405 00:24:10,560 --> 00:24:14,959 Speaker 1: entire time. Um. And they seem nice. Yeah, okay, So 406 00:24:15,000 --> 00:24:19,040 Speaker 1: they go after this guy, and they fired twenty two 407 00:24:19,080 --> 00:24:24,600 Speaker 1: thousand rounds of ammunition into basically just like apartment buildings. UM. 408 00:24:24,640 --> 00:24:26,879 Speaker 1: To this day, nobody knows how many people they killed, 409 00:24:27,040 --> 00:24:29,560 Speaker 1: but from my winnings reports, we know they killed babies, 410 00:24:29,680 --> 00:24:32,320 Speaker 1: they killed children, they killed pregnant women. It is it 411 00:24:32,400 --> 00:24:38,240 Speaker 1: is Vietnam ship. It is absolutely awful. Um. Augusta Helano, 412 00:24:39,480 --> 00:24:41,639 Speaker 1: who I guess the Heleno. I don't know how this 413 00:24:41,680 --> 00:24:44,560 Speaker 1: guys name. He's the guy who leads this operation. Becomes 414 00:24:44,600 --> 00:24:49,320 Speaker 1: the head of bolson Naro's Institutional security Bureau. Um. Here 415 00:24:49,400 --> 00:24:53,639 Speaker 1: here here's a headline from Potato three sixty from last week. Quote. 416 00:24:53,800 --> 00:24:56,439 Speaker 1: It is not possible to admit the return of the 417 00:24:56,480 --> 00:24:59,159 Speaker 1: Red Gang, says Hellano. And by the Red Gang he 418 00:24:59,440 --> 00:25:03,879 Speaker 1: means Lula. He's calling Lula communist. And this is fine 419 00:25:03,920 --> 00:25:06,600 Speaker 1: and good from a guy who again is the head 420 00:25:06,720 --> 00:25:11,040 Speaker 1: of the Institutional Security Bureau. Um, all right, this guy 421 00:25:12,720 --> 00:25:16,320 Speaker 1: like sucks so much. Um. And when you were retiring 422 00:25:16,320 --> 00:25:19,760 Speaker 1: in two thousand eleven, Helano defended this is from Bruters. 423 00:25:19,760 --> 00:25:21,840 Speaker 1: And when he retired in two thousand eleven, Helano defended 424 00:25:21,880 --> 00:25:26,720 Speaker 1: Brazil's sixty four military dictatorship as a bulwark against the 425 00:25:26,720 --> 00:25:30,960 Speaker 1: communist quoted the communization of the country. Sure and okay, 426 00:25:30,960 --> 00:25:32,800 Speaker 1: so like we we we can say that as as 427 00:25:32,880 --> 00:25:36,639 Speaker 1: much as sort of Brazil's like fascism, his home grown 428 00:25:36,680 --> 00:25:39,919 Speaker 1: and this is absolutely true, they're also just like eating 429 00:25:39,960 --> 00:25:43,119 Speaker 1: the assend if you pose boomerang, because all of the 430 00:25:43,160 --> 00:25:46,040 Speaker 1: fascism that they're about to do is exported Tahiti before 431 00:25:46,040 --> 00:25:49,160 Speaker 1: it comes back. Um, here's some Wriuters. This is talking 432 00:25:49,160 --> 00:25:53,719 Speaker 1: about Bolsonaro's cabinet, his proposed his proposed defense minister, former 433 00:25:53,760 --> 00:25:58,439 Speaker 1: General Fernando Alvarezi Silva, served under Helano as a as 434 00:25:58,440 --> 00:26:06,200 Speaker 1: an operations chief. Bulsonario's incoming Infrastructure Minister tar Cisio free 435 00:26:06,200 --> 00:26:09,520 Speaker 1: TOAs was a senior UN military engineer in Haiti, arriving 436 00:26:09,560 --> 00:26:13,160 Speaker 1: shortly after Hellano left. In two thousand five, retired General 437 00:26:13,200 --> 00:26:18,800 Speaker 1: Carlos Alberto does Santa Cruz, Brazil's next government minister, led 438 00:26:18,880 --> 00:26:21,440 Speaker 1: UN troops in the Caribbean nation two seven. All of 439 00:26:21,480 --> 00:26:23,240 Speaker 1: those guys, by the way that this was written before 440 00:26:23,400 --> 00:26:27,919 Speaker 1: the election, um, all of those guys took office, uh 441 00:26:27,960 --> 00:26:32,119 Speaker 1: to Fully two of of Bulsonaro's secretaries of government were 442 00:26:32,119 --> 00:26:37,480 Speaker 1: part of this occupation. So yeah, this this obviously it 443 00:26:37,640 --> 00:26:41,440 Speaker 1: went great for Lula, Like yeah, okay, a good job 444 00:26:41,520 --> 00:26:44,119 Speaker 1: you you you you sent the magic colonial troops to 445 00:26:44,119 --> 00:26:46,680 Speaker 1: occupy Haiti, and then all of the generals came home 446 00:26:46,720 --> 00:26:49,760 Speaker 1: and we're like, let's fucking do fascism here too. Yeah. 447 00:26:49,800 --> 00:26:52,560 Speaker 1: So in this episode, which we're talking a lot about 448 00:26:52,560 --> 00:26:55,000 Speaker 1: sort of the Brazilian fascism because you know, this is 449 00:26:55,040 --> 00:26:56,720 Speaker 1: a britil episode, but I don't want to minimize like 450 00:26:56,760 --> 00:26:59,400 Speaker 1: what this did to Haiti, where like to this day 451 00:26:59,480 --> 00:27:03,760 Speaker 1: Lula is like fucking despised um for you know, like 452 00:27:04,000 --> 00:27:06,399 Speaker 1: betraying the Haitian people and fucking occupying the country with 453 00:27:06,480 --> 00:27:10,720 Speaker 1: troops like there's there's this whole thing where like he 454 00:27:10,800 --> 00:27:12,840 Speaker 1: Lula goes to Haiti and he has this whole thing 455 00:27:12,840 --> 00:27:14,760 Speaker 1: about how like he has he's playing like a soccer 456 00:27:14,840 --> 00:27:16,280 Speaker 1: match and he's like, Okay, we're going to show the 457 00:27:16,280 --> 00:27:19,159 Speaker 1: world there's an alternative to bullets. And meanwhile, this soccer 458 00:27:19,160 --> 00:27:22,240 Speaker 1: stadium is literally surrounded by the by the Brazilian army 459 00:27:22,320 --> 00:27:27,199 Speaker 1: and it's oh boy, um, I love I love showing 460 00:27:27,200 --> 00:27:29,600 Speaker 1: the world there's I mean, there is an alternative to bullets. 461 00:27:29,640 --> 00:27:32,800 Speaker 1: And it's just threatening people with your guns because they 462 00:27:32,800 --> 00:27:35,440 Speaker 1: know you've shot enough people that you'll use them if 463 00:27:35,680 --> 00:27:37,639 Speaker 1: and drones too, by the way, this is this is 464 00:27:37,640 --> 00:27:39,080 Speaker 1: where this is where the UN learns how to do 465 00:27:39,119 --> 00:27:41,760 Speaker 1: drone warfare. Um the everything is happening here is this 466 00:27:41,800 --> 00:27:44,000 Speaker 1: is this occupation is where the UN starts to like 467 00:27:44,080 --> 00:27:47,159 Speaker 1: fight quote like hybrid wars for the first time, you know, 468 00:27:47,200 --> 00:27:49,080 Speaker 1: the like the wars that they're that they're doing these 469 00:27:49,080 --> 00:27:52,480 Speaker 1: sort of peacekeeping operations quote unquote, Uh, they're starting they 470 00:27:52,520 --> 00:27:54,720 Speaker 1: starting to do kind of insurgency ship where like they 471 00:27:54,720 --> 00:27:57,679 Speaker 1: animate can be mixed in with the population and you 472 00:27:57,720 --> 00:28:00,200 Speaker 1: know that they kill a ship ton of people. Are 473 00:28:00,359 --> 00:28:02,840 Speaker 1: is rampant rape and sexual assault, because it turns out 474 00:28:02,920 --> 00:28:05,920 Speaker 1: that when you when you send troops to another country 475 00:28:05,960 --> 00:28:09,399 Speaker 1: to occupy it, this is what happens, um and when 476 00:28:09,400 --> 00:28:11,920 Speaker 1: when when when this force eventually pulls out, shesn't seventeen, 477 00:28:11,920 --> 00:28:13,720 Speaker 1: they just like leave a ship ton of fither of 478 00:28:13,760 --> 00:28:17,520 Speaker 1: those babies behind because the people who you know, did 479 00:28:17,520 --> 00:28:19,040 Speaker 1: all this ship like fuck it, We're just gonna leave, 480 00:28:19,440 --> 00:28:23,200 Speaker 1: like leave the children behind, um I think most famously. Okay, 481 00:28:23,200 --> 00:28:26,280 Speaker 1: so there's there's a giant earthquake in Haiti and justn't 482 00:28:26,280 --> 00:28:28,879 Speaker 1: ten and this leads to this like enormous sort of 483 00:28:28,920 --> 00:28:33,160 Speaker 1: redoubling of the occupation and troops are brought in from 484 00:28:33,200 --> 00:28:35,600 Speaker 1: other parts of the world, including there's a contisition from Nepaul. 485 00:28:35,720 --> 00:28:39,440 Speaker 1: And the results of this is that definitely Haiti seems 486 00:28:39,520 --> 00:28:43,760 Speaker 1: like a place Nepalese soldiers debate this is this is, 487 00:28:43,800 --> 00:28:45,880 Speaker 1: by the way, like this this is like the new 488 00:28:45,920 --> 00:28:49,080 Speaker 1: revolutionary governments in Nepal that is like finally defeated the 489 00:28:49,080 --> 00:28:55,120 Speaker 1: monarchy after like god decades decades. It's like we all 490 00:28:55,200 --> 00:28:57,680 Speaker 1: looked at the British Empire and we're like, well, that's 491 00:28:57,720 --> 00:29:00,240 Speaker 1: clearly fucked up. But what if we did in a 492 00:29:00,400 --> 00:29:04,080 Speaker 1: decentralized way, right, Like what if what if it wasn't 493 00:29:04,160 --> 00:29:07,320 Speaker 1: just the British, what if everyone was sending Nepalese shock 494 00:29:07,400 --> 00:29:12,320 Speaker 1: troops and to crack down on popular insurgencies. Well, and 495 00:29:12,360 --> 00:29:13,880 Speaker 1: you know, and the thing that the thing that particularly 496 00:29:13,880 --> 00:29:15,360 Speaker 1: goes wrong with with the Nepalese troops is that the 497 00:29:15,360 --> 00:29:18,840 Speaker 1: Nepolice troops would bring colerade to Haiti. And Okay, well again, 498 00:29:18,920 --> 00:29:21,959 Speaker 1: who hasn't you know? Okay, there's the thing. The defeat 499 00:29:22,000 --> 00:29:25,040 Speaker 1: of choleraade. This is like one of the few genuine 500 00:29:25,160 --> 00:29:28,120 Speaker 1: victories we have had over sort of like like the 501 00:29:29,560 --> 00:29:31,640 Speaker 1: last two years over the forces that have caused like 502 00:29:31,680 --> 00:29:34,040 Speaker 1: human misery and suffering for like this time of memorial 503 00:29:34,160 --> 00:29:36,760 Speaker 1: is that we defeated cholera and then we brought it 504 00:29:36,840 --> 00:29:40,240 Speaker 1: back the fucking you had occupation brings like this is 505 00:29:40,280 --> 00:29:42,480 Speaker 1: the this is the first lower scale color outbreak in 506 00:29:42,560 --> 00:29:49,960 Speaker 1: modern times, um eight hundred thousandations. Get christ. Yeah, it's 507 00:29:50,040 --> 00:29:54,560 Speaker 1: it's not hard to not spread cholera. Yeah, we success, 508 00:29:54,640 --> 00:29:58,239 Speaker 1: Like even if you're looking by the standards of military occupations, 509 00:29:58,240 --> 00:30:01,840 Speaker 1: like the Russians didn't haven't spread cholera in Ukraine. It's 510 00:30:01,880 --> 00:30:06,160 Speaker 1: not hard to not Vietnam now, like we didn't create 511 00:30:06,160 --> 00:30:08,800 Speaker 1: a cholera epidemic in Afghanistan. Ad right, it is not 512 00:30:09,000 --> 00:30:12,000 Speaker 1: hard to not create a cholera epidemic, to be to 513 00:30:12,040 --> 00:30:13,800 Speaker 1: be fair, the s the Saudis have managed to create 514 00:30:13,800 --> 00:30:16,400 Speaker 1: one and create one in Yemen now too, but that's 515 00:30:16,440 --> 00:30:20,240 Speaker 1: probably worse than this one. But that more just reinforces 516 00:30:20,320 --> 00:30:24,600 Speaker 1: my point that most imperialist occupations are able to not 517 00:30:24,840 --> 00:30:29,719 Speaker 1: cause epidemics. It's hard and okay, you know, and and 518 00:30:30,040 --> 00:30:34,000 Speaker 1: obviously right, like, okay, you you've now created your colonial army. 519 00:30:34,320 --> 00:30:37,560 Speaker 1: The colonial army is gonna come home and literally these 520 00:30:37,720 --> 00:30:40,720 Speaker 1: same troops go back to Brazil and launch a war 521 00:30:40,800 --> 00:30:45,200 Speaker 1: in the favelas um like like under under under Gioba 522 00:30:45,280 --> 00:30:49,640 Speaker 1: Russo's PT, like the fucking army is literally occupying the favelas. 523 00:30:50,200 --> 00:30:51,920 Speaker 1: And you know, this is all part of the pats 524 00:30:51,960 --> 00:30:54,120 Speaker 1: like massive campaign to sort of buy weapons and modernize 525 00:30:54,160 --> 00:30:57,840 Speaker 1: the army, which you know, and by like, I I 526 00:30:57,880 --> 00:31:03,240 Speaker 1: think currently they're involved in like okay, okay, I I'm 527 00:31:03,320 --> 00:31:06,560 Speaker 1: not entirely sure about my dates on this. I I'm 528 00:31:06,520 --> 00:31:08,240 Speaker 1: not entirely sure if they're if they're currently involved in 529 00:31:08,320 --> 00:31:11,960 Speaker 1: nine unpc CO operations. You're sixteen, but there are like 530 00:31:12,440 --> 00:31:17,520 Speaker 1: there are there are I Brazilian troops like all over 531 00:31:17,560 --> 00:31:22,200 Speaker 1: the world. I still doing this bullshit. And you know, again, 532 00:31:22,280 --> 00:31:24,640 Speaker 1: as we've talked about, like literally the people who are 533 00:31:24,720 --> 00:31:26,640 Speaker 1: in Haiti like are the people who are going to 534 00:31:26,640 --> 00:31:29,920 Speaker 1: help put in prison and put Bolson Umber in power. 535 00:31:30,320 --> 00:31:34,080 Speaker 1: So you know, this is some I this is some 536 00:31:34,160 --> 00:31:41,480 Speaker 1: fucking enormous like creating your own grave diggers ship. Okay, 537 00:31:41,560 --> 00:31:43,880 Speaker 1: so okay, well we we've now we've now gotten through 538 00:31:44,000 --> 00:31:46,160 Speaker 1: one of the sort of sets of grave diggers that 539 00:31:46,200 --> 00:31:51,280 Speaker 1: the PTS building for themselves, um. But also back in 540 00:31:51,520 --> 00:31:54,120 Speaker 1: back in Brazil, things are also like you know, not 541 00:31:54,200 --> 00:31:57,080 Speaker 1: going great for them, which and the way that this 542 00:31:57,120 --> 00:31:59,560 Speaker 1: is specifically not going great is that like even even 543 00:31:59,560 --> 00:32:02,400 Speaker 1: you know, so in the hour of triumph triumph of 544 00:32:02,400 --> 00:32:05,440 Speaker 1: the Workers Party, right Lulas and Dent etcetera, etcetera, there 545 00:32:05,520 --> 00:32:07,720 Speaker 1: is a massive fissure opening under the feet of the 546 00:32:07,760 --> 00:32:11,240 Speaker 1: Brazilian left, and that fisher is the gig economy. Um. 547 00:32:11,320 --> 00:32:15,760 Speaker 1: We we have talked like literally add daus um on 548 00:32:15,800 --> 00:32:19,960 Speaker 1: this show about how the economy is bad for workers, um, 549 00:32:20,080 --> 00:32:24,160 Speaker 1: for for our purposes. The thing that's kind of important 550 00:32:24,240 --> 00:32:27,280 Speaker 1: here is that doing this kind of gig work, right, 551 00:32:27,280 --> 00:32:30,960 Speaker 1: like becoming an independent like an independent contractor. UM, it 552 00:32:31,040 --> 00:32:34,480 Speaker 1: has a profound social and political effect, and it creates 553 00:32:34,520 --> 00:32:37,160 Speaker 1: a sort of profound social political animization. Right. It breaks 554 00:32:37,160 --> 00:32:39,680 Speaker 1: down the sort of social bonds that like built the 555 00:32:39,680 --> 00:32:41,840 Speaker 1: workers who have been the PT and transport and and 556 00:32:41,960 --> 00:32:45,840 Speaker 1: and instead of instead of the sort of like you know, massification, right, 557 00:32:46,120 --> 00:32:48,680 Speaker 1: like the conversion of people into sort of like these 558 00:32:48,720 --> 00:32:52,840 Speaker 1: these these these like like concrete mass social entities who 559 00:32:52,880 --> 00:32:56,480 Speaker 1: can like take collective action. You get these neo liberal 560 00:32:56,480 --> 00:33:00,120 Speaker 1: subjects who are incredibly atomized, incredibly isolated and vulnerable to 561 00:33:00,240 --> 00:33:02,960 Speaker 1: sort of like you know, fascist projects that promise like 562 00:33:03,000 --> 00:33:05,360 Speaker 1: community and unity like this new organic hall and you know, 563 00:33:05,400 --> 00:33:08,320 Speaker 1: guests or bolcenario draws support from Oh wait, it's a 564 00:33:08,360 --> 00:33:12,680 Speaker 1: it's a newly evangelical section of the working class. UM. 565 00:33:12,680 --> 00:33:15,240 Speaker 1: And And to to be clear here, the informal sector 566 00:33:15,280 --> 00:33:18,480 Speaker 1: in Brazil has always been massive, but the way that 567 00:33:18,560 --> 00:33:22,960 Speaker 1: PC runs their welfare programs makes everything just exponentially worse. UM. 568 00:33:23,520 --> 00:33:25,440 Speaker 1: We talked about this a bit last episode, but one 569 00:33:25,440 --> 00:33:27,680 Speaker 1: of the big things that the PC's welfare programs do 570 00:33:28,080 --> 00:33:30,600 Speaker 1: is they're about getting given people access to micro credit. 571 00:33:32,520 --> 00:33:35,960 Speaker 1: And Okay, so in the short run this is technically 572 00:33:36,000 --> 00:33:40,680 Speaker 1: incredibly effective at combating poverty. But it had another effect, 573 00:33:40,840 --> 00:33:46,080 Speaker 1: which was to sort of like deeply, infirmly like sort 574 00:33:46,120 --> 00:33:49,200 Speaker 1: of like like ingrained vast sections of Brazilian workers into 575 00:33:49,200 --> 00:33:52,760 Speaker 1: the banking system and tournament to micro entrepreneurs. And okay, 576 00:33:52,800 --> 00:33:57,280 Speaker 1: so being a social democratic party and on purpose constructing 577 00:33:57,320 --> 00:34:00,880 Speaker 1: an entire class of micro entrepreneurs is like maybe the 578 00:34:00,960 --> 00:34:04,080 Speaker 1: single best example of producing your own grave diggers that 579 00:34:04,120 --> 00:34:07,440 Speaker 1: I've seen since like the military dictatorship cooperating with Lulu 580 00:34:07,480 --> 00:34:11,759 Speaker 1: in the first place. This is a terrible idea, but 581 00:34:12,200 --> 00:34:14,279 Speaker 1: you know, okay, so I I think I think I 582 00:34:14,280 --> 00:34:17,439 Speaker 1: think it's worth asking, like why is the PT doing 583 00:34:17,480 --> 00:34:20,239 Speaker 1: this ship? Right? Like this is this is something that 584 00:34:20,320 --> 00:34:24,799 Speaker 1: is like otherwise absolutely incomprehensible. Um And the answer is 585 00:34:24,800 --> 00:34:26,600 Speaker 1: that the PUT was never quite the party that people 586 00:34:26,600 --> 00:34:28,680 Speaker 1: think it is. Um Here here is from a Brazilian 587 00:34:28,719 --> 00:34:32,120 Speaker 1: anarchist writing and crime think. The rulers linked to the 588 00:34:32,120 --> 00:34:35,760 Speaker 1: realization of mega events cheaply re political rewards for FIFA 589 00:34:35,800 --> 00:34:38,520 Speaker 1: and its corporate CRONI is not coincidentally the same companies 590 00:34:38,560 --> 00:34:41,560 Speaker 1: that finance the electoral campaigns of the PT. The benefits 591 00:34:41,560 --> 00:34:44,719 Speaker 1: were financial profits stretched into the billions, under written by 592 00:34:44,719 --> 00:34:48,200 Speaker 1: public resources, and guaranteed by police oppression. The PC could 593 00:34:48,200 --> 00:34:50,600 Speaker 1: not have done this alone. It was the party that 594 00:34:50,680 --> 00:34:53,720 Speaker 1: received the largest total of private donations in recent years 595 00:34:53,840 --> 00:34:58,040 Speaker 1: seventy five millions dozen thirteen. Well other parties like the PSDB, 596 00:34:58,280 --> 00:35:03,000 Speaker 1: the Social Democratic Party and PMDB Party of Democratic Movement, 597 00:35:03,000 --> 00:35:05,560 Speaker 1: the biggest and oldest party in Brazil, mostly center right 598 00:35:05,560 --> 00:35:09,760 Speaker 1: and conservative politicians, only managed forty six million dollars altogether. 599 00:35:10,320 --> 00:35:13,240 Speaker 1: In two thousand fourteen, the year of Dilma Russo's re election, 600 00:35:13,520 --> 00:35:16,760 Speaker 1: the PT received forty seven million dollars, some contractors facing 601 00:35:16,800 --> 00:35:20,760 Speaker 1: lawsuits and investigations, while the PMDB got thirty eight million 602 00:35:20,880 --> 00:35:24,400 Speaker 1: the ps dB got twenty eight million. This demonstrates the 603 00:35:24,440 --> 00:35:26,960 Speaker 1: symbiosis between the Workers Party and those who control the 604 00:35:27,000 --> 00:35:30,319 Speaker 1: flow of capital in the country, a connective tissue of 605 00:35:30,400 --> 00:35:36,320 Speaker 1: economic and political power. So this is not good. Um 606 00:35:36,440 --> 00:35:39,120 Speaker 1: and and you you can sort of ask what was 607 00:35:39,160 --> 00:35:41,799 Speaker 1: the PC really doing here, right, Like why, okay, why 608 00:35:41,800 --> 00:35:43,680 Speaker 1: are they doing micro loans? Why are they taking all 609 00:35:43,680 --> 00:35:46,640 Speaker 1: of this money? Um And there's a really really good 610 00:35:46,640 --> 00:35:49,560 Speaker 1: pair of articles from a Brazilian group called militants in 611 00:35:49,600 --> 00:35:52,200 Speaker 1: the Fog that was published at ill Will called work 612 00:35:52,200 --> 00:35:54,400 Speaker 1: and revolt in Brazil's dead Ends, and I'm going to 613 00:35:54,480 --> 00:35:58,360 Speaker 1: read from some of it. A bank accounts, a smartphone 614 00:35:58,360 --> 00:36:00,400 Speaker 1: with access to the internet, and a pro file in 615 00:36:00,440 --> 00:36:03,200 Speaker 1: an app. The means to collect emergency A, which is 616 00:36:03,239 --> 00:36:06,239 Speaker 1: emergency aid is um part of this is talking about 617 00:36:06,239 --> 00:36:10,600 Speaker 1: Bosonaro stuff. So I Bolsonaro implements this policy called emergency A, 618 00:36:10,719 --> 00:36:12,440 Speaker 1: which is like it's it's it's kind of the equivalent 619 00:36:12,440 --> 00:36:15,680 Speaker 1: of like the US is like the stimulus checks that 620 00:36:15,719 --> 00:36:21,360 Speaker 1: we got, but slightly difference. But the means required to 621 00:36:21,360 --> 00:36:23,719 Speaker 1: collect emergency aid or are the same required to create 622 00:36:23,760 --> 00:36:26,000 Speaker 1: an account for uber a sign that we are facing 623 00:36:26,600 --> 00:36:31,080 Speaker 1: fundamental parts of this quote new way of working. Years ago, 624 00:36:31,160 --> 00:36:34,200 Speaker 1: it was already possible to identify the Bolsa familiar program, 625 00:36:34,200 --> 00:36:39,080 Speaker 1: which is that giant um pt like workers Party cash 626 00:36:39,080 --> 00:36:42,560 Speaker 1: transfer program that we talked about last episode, whose dimensions 627 00:36:42,640 --> 00:36:46,760 Speaker 1: were small in the face of fancial aid program. The 628 00:36:46,760 --> 00:36:51,040 Speaker 1: the objective of forming a unified workplace more deeply subjugated 629 00:36:51,080 --> 00:36:55,560 Speaker 1: to capitalist relations. The quote bank ification promoted by the 630 00:36:55,600 --> 00:36:59,520 Speaker 1: program contributed to the expanding contributed to expanding the reach 631 00:36:59,560 --> 00:37:04,080 Speaker 1: of micro credit systems, a process of financialization of informality 632 00:37:04,120 --> 00:37:07,359 Speaker 1: which was deepened in recent years with the dissemination of 633 00:37:07,360 --> 00:37:11,000 Speaker 1: increasingly agile and easy payment terminals and electronic payment systems 634 00:37:11,000 --> 00:37:14,080 Speaker 1: such as picks at tax Free, a quicker and tax 635 00:37:14,080 --> 00:37:18,600 Speaker 1: free money transfer method. The phenomenon reached unprecedented intensity due 636 00:37:18,640 --> 00:37:21,840 Speaker 1: to the emergency A. The state owned bank Taxia Economic 637 00:37:21,840 --> 00:37:25,680 Speaker 1: and Federal absorbed thirty million customers in ten days, and 638 00:37:25,719 --> 00:37:29,000 Speaker 1: it was what was possibly the fastest bankification process of history, 639 00:37:29,440 --> 00:37:33,240 Speaker 1: thus reaching a record profit in two Access to credit 640 00:37:33,320 --> 00:37:36,600 Speaker 1: is essential for the emergence of a precarious workforce to 641 00:37:36,640 --> 00:37:39,480 Speaker 1: which capital, costs and risk are transferred. Well. Interest rates 642 00:37:39,480 --> 00:37:44,879 Speaker 1: introduced a new level of productivity to the old. Okay, 643 00:37:44,960 --> 00:37:48,120 Speaker 1: this is a Portuguese word that oh boy via carro, 644 00:37:48,200 --> 00:37:50,440 Speaker 1: which is like getting by, which is this sort of 645 00:37:50,520 --> 00:37:52,600 Speaker 1: like it's a sort of slaying term for kind of 646 00:37:52,600 --> 00:37:57,080 Speaker 1: like doing stuff in the informal economy to like survive, yeah, 647 00:37:57,120 --> 00:37:59,879 Speaker 1: which is now directly connected to global financial markets. Thus, 648 00:38:00,120 --> 00:38:02,359 Speaker 1: the focus of these income policies would be less on 649 00:38:02,400 --> 00:38:06,120 Speaker 1: expanding consumption capacity for the beneficiaries, as in the Kinzian 650 00:38:06,160 --> 00:38:10,120 Speaker 1: distributive model and more on expanding their investment capacity, financing 651 00:38:10,160 --> 00:38:13,399 Speaker 1: the acquisition of work instruments, and quote self valuing their 652 00:38:13,480 --> 00:38:17,640 Speaker 1: human capital. Enthusiasts of such programs claim that financial the 653 00:38:17,640 --> 00:38:20,840 Speaker 1: financial cushion provided by basic income can represent enough stability 654 00:38:20,880 --> 00:38:22,640 Speaker 1: for people to be able to spend their own savings 655 00:38:22,760 --> 00:38:28,600 Speaker 1: or other capital starting a business. So, okay, what's happening here? 656 00:38:29,880 --> 00:38:32,160 Speaker 1: Um and the militants of fog is arguing this after 657 00:38:32,160 --> 00:38:40,840 Speaker 1: the work of the Brazilian academical named Ludmilla Abilio is, Okay, 658 00:38:41,480 --> 00:38:43,799 Speaker 1: what's happening here is is the real subsumption of the 659 00:38:43,800 --> 00:38:45,839 Speaker 1: formal economy, which okay, so like what what what does 660 00:38:45,920 --> 00:38:48,800 Speaker 1: that mean? We need to take a step back, do 661 00:38:48,800 --> 00:38:51,080 Speaker 1: you like a little bit more marks? So Marx makes 662 00:38:51,080 --> 00:38:55,759 Speaker 1: this distinction between what he calls formal and real subsumption. Subsumption. 663 00:38:55,800 --> 00:38:57,319 Speaker 1: Is this like the whole philosophy thing I'm not gonna 664 00:38:57,320 --> 00:38:59,680 Speaker 1: get into here, but basically what he's talking about his 665 00:38:59,719 --> 00:39:02,440 Speaker 1: stuff getting like subsumed by capitalism, right, like becoming a 666 00:39:02,480 --> 00:39:04,400 Speaker 1: part of the of the sort of capitalist like process 667 00:39:04,400 --> 00:39:07,319 Speaker 1: and system. And this comes in stages, right. The first 668 00:39:07,400 --> 00:39:10,200 Speaker 1: is foremal subsumption, where Okay, so say you have a peasant, right, 669 00:39:12,480 --> 00:39:15,840 Speaker 1: Formal subsumption is where the peasant like enters the market 670 00:39:15,880 --> 00:39:17,680 Speaker 1: for the first time and suddenly be instead of being 671 00:39:17,680 --> 00:39:20,560 Speaker 1: a peasant, is now like a wage worker, right, and 672 00:39:20,640 --> 00:39:23,319 Speaker 1: you know, in in in this phase, right, capitalism has 673 00:39:23,400 --> 00:39:25,879 Speaker 1: entered induced fhere, Right, someone who was a peasant who 674 00:39:25,960 --> 00:39:28,520 Speaker 1: was like not doing capital stuff before, right, who was 675 00:39:28,560 --> 00:39:31,480 Speaker 1: going for self production and had like fetal dues and obligations, 676 00:39:31,840 --> 00:39:35,680 Speaker 1: is now a wage worker. But you know, and then 677 00:39:35,680 --> 00:39:37,440 Speaker 1: they're selling the goods of the market. But the actual 678 00:39:37,440 --> 00:39:40,160 Speaker 1: process of production, which is like, okay, so like how 679 00:39:40,200 --> 00:39:42,360 Speaker 1: a peasant is like how how how you your former 680 00:39:42,400 --> 00:39:44,759 Speaker 1: peasant new agriculture worker like grows their crops and what 681 00:39:44,840 --> 00:39:48,680 Speaker 1: crops they grow, and like when they decide to work 682 00:39:48,800 --> 00:39:51,520 Speaker 1: in in this first stage, this is still the peasant's choice. 683 00:39:52,000 --> 00:39:54,920 Speaker 1: Um that ends with real subsumption, where all control over 684 00:39:54,960 --> 00:39:58,480 Speaker 1: the workplace that like workers had had is completely destroyed 685 00:39:58,520 --> 00:39:59,880 Speaker 1: and you're just you know, okay, this this is this 686 00:39:59,880 --> 00:40:02,319 Speaker 1: is what like we think of as a regular job. Right. 687 00:40:02,360 --> 00:40:04,279 Speaker 1: We're like, okay, the way the job works as your 688 00:40:04,320 --> 00:40:07,279 Speaker 1: boss sells you want to do, I your your entire 689 00:40:07,360 --> 00:40:09,920 Speaker 1: labor process has been like fully integrated into into into 690 00:40:09,920 --> 00:40:12,080 Speaker 1: this sort of like broader capitalist production processes that you 691 00:40:12,120 --> 00:40:14,960 Speaker 1: have no control over. And this is what's been happening 692 00:40:14,960 --> 00:40:17,080 Speaker 1: in the informal economy of the past few decades in Brazil. 693 00:40:17,120 --> 00:40:20,200 Speaker 1: It's a real subsumption, right, like and and you know 694 00:40:20,239 --> 00:40:24,359 Speaker 1: what like it stuff that had formerly been you know, 695 00:40:24,480 --> 00:40:28,760 Speaker 1: like people taking wadge labor, but the sort of structure 696 00:40:28,800 --> 00:40:31,279 Speaker 1: of how people do the jobs that they're doing right 697 00:40:31,320 --> 00:40:34,440 Speaker 1: was still up to them. Uh, this has been ending, 698 00:40:34,480 --> 00:40:37,359 Speaker 1: and the way it's been ending is through basically the 699 00:40:37,440 --> 00:40:39,960 Speaker 1: degree of control offered but two employers by apps like 700 00:40:40,040 --> 00:40:43,279 Speaker 1: uber of Like, yeah, the control of these apps give 701 00:40:43,320 --> 00:40:45,319 Speaker 1: you over the informal economy, and the results have been 702 00:40:45,800 --> 00:40:49,320 Speaker 1: absolutely Catastrophicum. On the one hand, the sort of limited 703 00:40:49,320 --> 00:40:52,240 Speaker 1: autonomy that the formal economy like that the informal economy 704 00:40:52,320 --> 00:40:55,960 Speaker 1: used to give you has been crushed by sort of sorry, 705 00:40:56,120 --> 00:40:59,080 Speaker 1: has been crushed by algorithmic control from gay economy apps 706 00:40:59,120 --> 00:41:01,040 Speaker 1: that you know, like track where you are and tell 707 00:41:01,120 --> 00:41:03,480 Speaker 1: you where you need to go and how how fast 708 00:41:03,520 --> 00:41:05,080 Speaker 1: you have to get there, and like what lights you 709 00:41:05,080 --> 00:41:09,680 Speaker 1: have to run in order to get there, and also increasingly, Uh, 710 00:41:09,800 --> 00:41:12,399 Speaker 1: these big workers are being squeezed by a new level 711 00:41:12,440 --> 00:41:14,520 Speaker 1: of middle management who work basically the same way as 712 00:41:14,560 --> 00:41:17,719 Speaker 1: like gang like the old gang bosses that control Chinese labor, 713 00:41:17,719 --> 00:41:20,839 Speaker 1: and return to the twentieth century, where you have these 714 00:41:20,840 --> 00:41:24,000 Speaker 1: guys who act as like private recruiting companies and foremen 715 00:41:24,040 --> 00:41:27,640 Speaker 1: for workers who okay, so you go to this place, right, 716 00:41:27,640 --> 00:41:29,360 Speaker 1: These people are like, okay, I will give you a job, 717 00:41:29,400 --> 00:41:31,560 Speaker 1: and they negotiate. There are people who negotiate directly with 718 00:41:31,600 --> 00:41:33,520 Speaker 1: the company and take money from the company and then 719 00:41:33,640 --> 00:41:36,360 Speaker 1: use that money to sort of like pay the employer. 720 00:41:36,520 --> 00:41:40,279 Speaker 1: And this this you know, this sucks, right because on 721 00:41:40,320 --> 00:41:42,479 Speaker 1: the one hands, you have all of the bad parts 722 00:41:42,520 --> 00:41:44,520 Speaker 1: of a regular job, which there's a guy who tells 723 00:41:44,560 --> 00:41:46,319 Speaker 1: you what to do, and if you don't do what 724 00:41:46,360 --> 00:41:48,920 Speaker 1: he tells you, like, you get fired. And then you 725 00:41:48,960 --> 00:41:51,040 Speaker 1: have all the bad parts of an informal sector job, 726 00:41:51,200 --> 00:41:53,319 Speaker 1: which is that you don't have any legal protections that 727 00:41:53,360 --> 00:41:57,080 Speaker 1: like workers with formal contracts have, and you know, the 728 00:41:57,080 --> 00:41:59,280 Speaker 1: the the the effect of this has been to create 729 00:41:59,360 --> 00:42:04,319 Speaker 1: super hell for like vast, vast swass of of the 730 00:42:04,360 --> 00:42:09,959 Speaker 1: Brazilian working class. And this has been a just unbelievably 731 00:42:10,000 --> 00:42:16,680 Speaker 1: catastrophic sort of disaster for for Brazilian politics. But okay, 732 00:42:16,960 --> 00:42:18,960 Speaker 1: you know what else is creating super hell for the 733 00:42:19,000 --> 00:42:24,160 Speaker 1: Brazilian working class. I mean not the products and services 734 00:42:24,200 --> 00:42:31,480 Speaker 1: that support this podcasting the American working class. Now now yeah, okay, 735 00:42:31,520 --> 00:42:46,359 Speaker 1: here's sucking as ah, We're back. Wow. I for one 736 00:42:46,840 --> 00:42:51,399 Speaker 1: think everything's gonna be fine. The fact that Lula won 737 00:42:51,400 --> 00:42:56,280 Speaker 1: this resounding victory over j R. Bolsonaro by by nearly 738 00:42:56,320 --> 00:42:59,200 Speaker 1: a whole percentage point is going to mean none of 739 00:42:59,239 --> 00:43:02,880 Speaker 1: these problems that you're talking about our every things again yea, no, 740 00:43:03,800 --> 00:43:07,399 Speaker 1: And you know, okay, so speaking speaking of reasons why 741 00:43:07,400 --> 00:43:09,799 Speaker 1: this will not be a problem again, the sort of 742 00:43:09,840 --> 00:43:13,000 Speaker 1: like financialization bullshit. This this this doesn't just like stick 743 00:43:13,120 --> 00:43:15,560 Speaker 1: in sort of labor process like this stuff spreads to 744 00:43:15,640 --> 00:43:18,360 Speaker 1: the like to social movements as well, which are in 745 00:43:18,360 --> 00:43:20,920 Speaker 1: a lot of cases, like very old and powerful Brazilian 746 00:43:20,920 --> 00:43:24,040 Speaker 1: social movements are reduced to these sort of like state 747 00:43:24,080 --> 00:43:27,359 Speaker 1: back financialized husks of them form ourselves where like you know, 748 00:43:27,400 --> 00:43:29,640 Speaker 1: you have like you have social movements that are literally 749 00:43:29,719 --> 00:43:33,400 Speaker 1: like issuing bonds to like fund their their members businesses. 750 00:43:33,840 --> 00:43:36,440 Speaker 1: You have social movements that are like okay, if if 751 00:43:36,480 --> 00:43:39,560 Speaker 1: you show up to assemblies, you can like earn points 752 00:43:39,640 --> 00:43:41,439 Speaker 1: so that you can get access to like be put 753 00:43:41,440 --> 00:43:43,600 Speaker 1: on a waiting list for like a government rent stabilized 754 00:43:43,600 --> 00:43:46,919 Speaker 1: department or something like. It is a ship show. And 755 00:43:46,920 --> 00:43:49,080 Speaker 1: and this whole process sort of leads to the hollowing 756 00:43:49,080 --> 00:43:52,000 Speaker 1: out of the Brazilian left, and you know, and and 757 00:43:52,120 --> 00:43:54,600 Speaker 1: and as as as as the left is sort of 758 00:43:54,640 --> 00:43:58,799 Speaker 1: like being sort of like torn apart from the inside out. 759 00:43:59,239 --> 00:44:01,879 Speaker 1: And as you get into sort of like two eleven 760 00:44:02,080 --> 00:44:04,120 Speaker 1: and twelve dozen thirteen is the Presilian a comedy begainst 761 00:44:04,120 --> 00:44:08,279 Speaker 1: the slow I you get Brazil's version of the sort 762 00:44:08,280 --> 00:44:12,239 Speaker 1: of like movement of the squares like two thirteen uprisings, 763 00:44:13,080 --> 00:44:17,440 Speaker 1: which is going to be waged against a hostile wall, okay, 764 00:44:16,480 --> 00:44:21,040 Speaker 1: a pretty hostile pt governments. Like there there's a sort 765 00:44:21,040 --> 00:44:23,520 Speaker 1: of public show by Delmo Roussofter like yeah, no, I 766 00:44:23,560 --> 00:44:27,160 Speaker 1: support the protests when they're not violent, and we're gonna 767 00:44:27,200 --> 00:44:31,120 Speaker 1: do stuff. But okay, this goes badly very quickly. So 768 00:44:31,280 --> 00:44:34,680 Speaker 1: these protests start over these like raises in public trends 769 00:44:34,719 --> 00:44:36,799 Speaker 1: and in the cost of public transportation, like the fair 770 00:44:36,920 --> 00:44:40,760 Speaker 1: cost raises in a bunch of cities, and very quickly 771 00:44:40,800 --> 00:44:45,120 Speaker 1: there are like three million people in the streets. Um. 772 00:44:45,280 --> 00:44:49,520 Speaker 1: The sort of conventional narrative about what happened here is that, 773 00:44:50,440 --> 00:44:54,320 Speaker 1: so the protests started off leftists, right, but then the 774 00:44:54,440 --> 00:44:57,040 Speaker 1: leftists get run out as as the protests sort of 775 00:44:57,120 --> 00:44:59,759 Speaker 1: keep going by these sort of like foe a political 776 00:45:00,080 --> 00:45:03,480 Speaker 1: conservative nationalists that like take them over and turn them 777 00:45:03,480 --> 00:45:06,080 Speaker 1: from this sort of like leftist call for like a 778 00:45:06,120 --> 00:45:08,600 Speaker 1: more egalitarian society and for like the right to the 779 00:45:08,640 --> 00:45:11,239 Speaker 1: city and like stopping evictions and stuff like that to 780 00:45:11,320 --> 00:45:14,640 Speaker 1: this sort of like anti corruption crusade against PT, against 781 00:45:14,640 --> 00:45:16,560 Speaker 1: the PT, against them LaRussa, and against sort of like 782 00:45:16,600 --> 00:45:20,879 Speaker 1: the left itself. And Okay, this is true, like as 783 00:45:20,920 --> 00:45:23,879 Speaker 1: far as it goes, Um, we'll be talking more about 784 00:45:23,920 --> 00:45:28,560 Speaker 1: the impeachment campaign like next episode. But there's more going 785 00:45:28,600 --> 00:45:31,279 Speaker 1: on here. And the more going on here is that 786 00:45:31,440 --> 00:45:34,280 Speaker 1: just isn't thirteen. There are massive protests, like eight hundred 787 00:45:34,320 --> 00:45:37,799 Speaker 1: thousand people, um protest a Confederation Cup, which is which 788 00:45:37,880 --> 00:45:40,759 Speaker 1: is like the soccer tournament hosted by like that that 789 00:45:40,760 --> 00:45:43,040 Speaker 1: that's prece like it's one of the things that precedes 790 00:45:43,080 --> 00:45:45,440 Speaker 1: the World Cup. I don't know, I'm not a soccer nowher, 791 00:45:46,080 --> 00:45:49,480 Speaker 1: but yeah, and there's his massiveproaches against them, and they 792 00:45:49,480 --> 00:45:54,560 Speaker 1: are just unbelievably brutally suppressed, Like fifty four thousand cops 793 00:45:55,480 --> 00:45:58,440 Speaker 1: are sent out to like stop this ship and they 794 00:45:58,560 --> 00:46:02,719 Speaker 1: beat the aps lute shit out of everyone. And to 795 00:46:03,040 --> 00:46:05,680 Speaker 1: understand why these movements were crushed and how the right 796 00:46:05,719 --> 00:46:07,040 Speaker 1: was able to take power, we need to talk about 797 00:46:07,080 --> 00:46:11,120 Speaker 1: the Brazilian police. So I think you know most of 798 00:46:11,120 --> 00:46:14,720 Speaker 1: our listeners you to me, like we we are familiar 799 00:46:14,760 --> 00:46:17,759 Speaker 1: with the American police, right, Like, if you're listening to 800 00:46:17,800 --> 00:46:20,200 Speaker 1: the show, odds are decently good. You have seen them 801 00:46:20,239 --> 00:46:22,080 Speaker 1: beat your friends to bloody pulpe. You have seen them 802 00:46:22,120 --> 00:46:24,160 Speaker 1: taste the parents of children locked into building with the 803 00:46:24,200 --> 00:46:26,520 Speaker 1: mass shooter. You have seen them slaughter men, women and 804 00:46:26,600 --> 00:46:28,399 Speaker 1: children in the street for no other reason than they 805 00:46:28,400 --> 00:46:31,320 Speaker 1: can because they're a fascist desk squad fused with organized 806 00:46:31,320 --> 00:46:34,279 Speaker 1: crime outfits, funded by putting guns to the heads of 807 00:46:34,280 --> 00:46:37,080 Speaker 1: the American working class, their descendants of slave catchers, working 808 00:46:37,080 --> 00:46:39,840 Speaker 1: each and every day to keep the American racial hierarchy 809 00:46:39,840 --> 00:46:42,840 Speaker 1: firmly intact. Okay, we can put it that way. It 810 00:46:42,920 --> 00:46:46,080 Speaker 1: sounds bad, but I don't know, Like I like law 811 00:46:46,120 --> 00:46:50,680 Speaker 1: and order, so like the TV show, Yeah, you know 812 00:46:50,760 --> 00:46:56,640 Speaker 1: that they have. You've never watched Law and Order SVU. 813 00:46:58,400 --> 00:47:01,200 Speaker 1: You're missing out on all of the law and Order. Uh, 814 00:47:01,760 --> 00:47:03,719 Speaker 1: that is that the one with the goth chick and 815 00:47:03,840 --> 00:47:06,799 Speaker 1: it I honestly don't know. There's like forty different Law 816 00:47:06,800 --> 00:47:10,400 Speaker 1: and Order shows. It's impossible to keep track of them. 817 00:47:10,440 --> 00:47:12,600 Speaker 1: But there is that. There is that one goth chick 818 00:47:13,160 --> 00:47:16,000 Speaker 1: that they brought in because our grandparents would think she 819 00:47:16,120 --> 00:47:20,120 Speaker 1: was hot. Yeah. I think. I think the power of 820 00:47:20,160 --> 00:47:24,200 Speaker 1: goth chicks to extend the police budgets. Yeah, it's it's 821 00:47:24,239 --> 00:47:27,279 Speaker 1: it's fun and good and Okay, you know, like we 822 00:47:27,280 --> 00:47:30,600 Speaker 1: we we know how bad the US police are. Um, 823 00:47:30,680 --> 00:47:32,800 Speaker 1: I'm gonna read this from the l A Times quote 824 00:47:33,080 --> 00:47:36,359 Speaker 1: Brazilian cops kill at nine times the rate of US 825 00:47:36,480 --> 00:47:46,480 Speaker 1: law enforcement. Nine times. Well that's pretty bad. Yeah, you know, 826 00:47:46,840 --> 00:47:48,920 Speaker 1: and it's worth pointing out here that Brazil was the 827 00:47:49,000 --> 00:47:51,879 Speaker 1: last country in this hemisphere to evolve slavery, like they 828 00:47:51,880 --> 00:47:55,560 Speaker 1: abolished it like twenty years after the fucking US did, right, 829 00:47:56,440 --> 00:47:58,200 Speaker 1: And so you know, when when you're thinking about what 830 00:47:58,239 --> 00:48:00,760 Speaker 1: the Brazilian police is, take every thing you know about 831 00:48:00,760 --> 00:48:05,640 Speaker 1: the American police and understand that the Brazilian police, right Okay, 832 00:48:05,640 --> 00:48:07,879 Speaker 1: So with the American police, right, the murder dial goes 833 00:48:07,920 --> 00:48:10,239 Speaker 1: up to eleven. With the Brazilian police, that murder dial 834 00:48:10,320 --> 00:48:13,200 Speaker 1: goes up to and that's where they've franked it to. 835 00:48:14,480 --> 00:48:16,640 Speaker 1: Um here, here's some crime think. In two thousand fourteen, 836 00:48:16,719 --> 00:48:19,640 Speaker 1: Brazil's prison population became the third largest in the world, 837 00:48:20,520 --> 00:48:23,439 Speaker 1: with five hundred and seventy thousand prisoners, just like six 838 00:48:23,480 --> 00:48:26,720 Speaker 1: hundred something thousand prisoners today, most of whom are black. 839 00:48:26,920 --> 00:48:30,680 Speaker 1: During the PT administration, this figure increased by six hundred 840 00:48:30,680 --> 00:48:38,440 Speaker 1: and twenty cool. Yeah, like and this this, this is 841 00:48:38,480 --> 00:48:43,560 Speaker 1: a part of the PT that people really sort of 842 00:48:43,600 --> 00:48:49,200 Speaker 1: tiptoe around, which is that they preside over like a 843 00:48:49,480 --> 00:48:53,279 Speaker 1: a regime of mass executions and mass incarceration that is 844 00:48:54,239 --> 00:49:01,160 Speaker 1: like utterly atrocious and and as an assis here, um okay, 845 00:49:01,160 --> 00:49:03,279 Speaker 1: So like there are probably some of our listeners whose 846 00:49:03,320 --> 00:49:06,120 Speaker 1: things that they want to go into electoral politics. And 847 00:49:06,239 --> 00:49:09,880 Speaker 1: if you are doing this, you have one job, like solely, 848 00:49:10,000 --> 00:49:12,359 Speaker 1: you have one responsibility, and your job is to fucking 849 00:49:12,400 --> 00:49:15,040 Speaker 1: annihilate the police. Your job is to destroy them so 850 00:49:15,120 --> 00:49:17,279 Speaker 1: utterly and completely that their very name is sped as 851 00:49:17,280 --> 00:49:19,040 Speaker 1: a curse in the street by people who make the 852 00:49:19,120 --> 00:49:21,960 Speaker 1: sign of cross for protection every time they think about them, Like, 853 00:49:22,000 --> 00:49:23,880 Speaker 1: by the end of your first term, these people need 854 00:49:23,920 --> 00:49:26,560 Speaker 1: to be living in fucking hovels in the woods without 855 00:49:26,600 --> 00:49:28,359 Speaker 1: access to a weapon that even as deadly as at 856 00:49:28,400 --> 00:49:30,200 Speaker 1: two by four. And every time they attempt to enter 857 00:49:30,200 --> 00:49:32,400 Speaker 1: a town, people need to be like chasing them and 858 00:49:32,480 --> 00:49:35,439 Speaker 1: throwing rocks at them. And if you do not do this, 859 00:49:35,760 --> 00:49:38,600 Speaker 1: you will live like Lula has to see literally everything 860 00:49:38,640 --> 00:49:40,279 Speaker 1: you have ever done crumbled beneath the way to way 861 00:49:40,320 --> 00:49:43,480 Speaker 1: fascism that is too terrible to imagine, and you will 862 00:49:43,520 --> 00:49:47,400 Speaker 1: also experience in your lifetime. And instead of doing this, 863 00:49:47,520 --> 00:49:49,520 Speaker 1: the PT is like, fuck it, no, we're going to 864 00:49:49,640 --> 00:49:52,280 Speaker 1: use the police to stamp up protest against the mega 865 00:49:52,560 --> 00:49:56,200 Speaker 1: events that they're they're putting on. The police refreshion around 866 00:49:56,200 --> 00:49:59,880 Speaker 1: the World Cup is like arguably worse than the stuff 867 00:50:00,000 --> 00:50:03,160 Speaker 1: a Confederation Cup. In order to prepare for the World Cup, 868 00:50:03,480 --> 00:50:06,040 Speaker 1: the PT stage is this like massive social cleansing campaign. 869 00:50:06,080 --> 00:50:08,880 Speaker 1: We talked about this in our sports episode. Like they 870 00:50:09,280 --> 00:50:12,239 Speaker 1: they carry out mass evictions against both like regular people 871 00:50:12,280 --> 00:50:14,520 Speaker 1: and also against like like there's there's a bunch of 872 00:50:14,520 --> 00:50:16,319 Speaker 1: sort of leftist also sort of just like regular people 873 00:50:16,320 --> 00:50:18,799 Speaker 1: who squat in Brazil, right, Like up, a huge part 874 00:50:18,840 --> 00:50:21,160 Speaker 1: of the social events have been about seizing property and 875 00:50:21,200 --> 00:50:24,440 Speaker 1: building like building stuff on its seasoning about buildings and yeah, 876 00:50:24,480 --> 00:50:26,480 Speaker 1: this stuff all gets evicteds that can be replaced World 877 00:50:26,480 --> 00:50:30,720 Speaker 1: Cup businesses. It's you know, like what what is happening 878 00:50:30,760 --> 00:50:33,560 Speaker 1: here is it's like all the violence gentrification. But in 879 00:50:33,600 --> 00:50:36,319 Speaker 1: the span of like a year, right, the PC are 880 00:50:36,440 --> 00:50:40,920 Speaker 1: literally rolling German tanks to the favelas because like, you know, 881 00:50:40,960 --> 00:50:43,120 Speaker 1: subtlety is something that happens to other people, not like 882 00:50:43,239 --> 00:50:45,919 Speaker 1: to reality. And you know, as we talked about before, 883 00:50:45,920 --> 00:50:49,160 Speaker 1: they're putting them under literally military occupation with colonial troops 884 00:50:49,160 --> 00:50:52,960 Speaker 1: who were like fighting in Haiti, right, evict two hundred 885 00:50:53,040 --> 00:50:57,200 Speaker 1: and fifty thousand people for this fucking tournament. Um here 886 00:50:57,280 --> 00:50:59,200 Speaker 1: here's some other ship they did. This is from a 887 00:50:59,239 --> 00:51:02,720 Speaker 1: series of pieces by Brazilian anarchist group called Fictional Faction. 888 00:51:04,200 --> 00:51:07,160 Speaker 1: In twelve, the federal government and FIFA signed the General 889 00:51:07,239 --> 00:51:09,600 Speaker 1: Law of the World Cup to ensure that the country 890 00:51:09,600 --> 00:51:12,600 Speaker 1: would quote uphold FIFA standards of organization during the two 891 00:51:13,239 --> 00:51:18,600 Speaker 1: Confederation Cup and the two fourteen World Cup. This agreement 892 00:51:18,600 --> 00:51:22,240 Speaker 1: constituted an enormous legal offense to the Brazilian people, entailing 893 00:51:22,239 --> 00:51:25,120 Speaker 1: the suspension of mote of many constitutional rights and norms 894 00:51:25,120 --> 00:51:28,279 Speaker 1: that are already precarious for most. For example, a court 895 00:51:28,360 --> 00:51:30,920 Speaker 1: established to rule within fourty eight hours on strikes that 896 00:51:30,920 --> 00:51:33,880 Speaker 1: occurred within the World Cup. Workers lost the right to 897 00:51:33,960 --> 00:51:37,360 Speaker 1: strike or fight for improvements. While FIFA avoided paying taxes 898 00:51:37,360 --> 00:51:41,760 Speaker 1: on businesses within Brazilian territory, a special secretary to public 899 00:51:41,800 --> 00:51:45,640 Speaker 1: security for great events was created, breaking the laws stipulating 900 00:51:45,640 --> 00:51:48,239 Speaker 1: that justice may not have special sponsors or clients you 901 00:51:48,320 --> 00:51:52,719 Speaker 1: demand priority. The privatization of public space was legitimized by 902 00:51:52,760 --> 00:51:56,120 Speaker 1: the creation of exclusive streets for FIFA and as partners, 903 00:51:56,280 --> 00:51:59,520 Speaker 1: in which even local businesses were required to keep your 904 00:51:59,560 --> 00:52:02,480 Speaker 1: doors was within the exclusion zone around the stadium. The 905 00:52:02,560 --> 00:52:06,239 Speaker 1: laws allowed fifatage intervened directly in the market without the 906 00:52:06,239 --> 00:52:09,319 Speaker 1: oversight of the state. FIFA was able to stipulate the 907 00:52:09,400 --> 00:52:12,239 Speaker 1: price to charge for tickets, suspending the usual half price 908 00:52:12,320 --> 00:52:16,800 Speaker 1: for students and any application of consumer production code. In addition, 909 00:52:17,040 --> 00:52:19,319 Speaker 1: more than twenty thousand people were allowed to work as 910 00:52:19,400 --> 00:52:23,400 Speaker 1: unregulated volunteers during the World Cup. These volunteers did not 911 00:52:23,480 --> 00:52:28,440 Speaker 1: receive the protections of basic labor rights and operated outside 912 00:52:28,440 --> 00:52:32,520 Speaker 1: of constitutional norms in a situation, in situations analogous to slavery. 913 00:52:32,840 --> 00:52:36,080 Speaker 1: According to Brazilian law, these exceptions to safety and labor 914 00:52:36,400 --> 00:52:38,280 Speaker 1: the Labor and Stity Law are supposed to be limited 915 00:52:38,280 --> 00:52:43,240 Speaker 1: to volunteer work for nonprofit institutions that have a quote civic, cultural, education, 916 00:52:43,360 --> 00:52:48,960 Speaker 1: recreational and social assistance purposes, which hardly described FIFA. The 917 00:52:49,000 --> 00:52:52,320 Speaker 1: state even overlooked the use of child labor and activities 918 00:52:52,320 --> 00:52:54,560 Speaker 1: related to the games, such as the role of ball Boy, 919 00:52:54,600 --> 00:52:56,880 Speaker 1: which had been banned in Brazil since two thousand four. 920 00:52:57,640 --> 00:53:00,759 Speaker 1: So this goes great um and and the thing you know, 921 00:53:00,760 --> 00:53:02,800 Speaker 1: so this happens, he doesn't fourteen under delmar roussof but 922 00:53:02,800 --> 00:53:05,280 Speaker 1: it's worth noting like this is Lula's project fund the beginning, 923 00:53:05,840 --> 00:53:08,560 Speaker 1: right like he he has been fighting to get Brazil 924 00:53:08,680 --> 00:53:12,800 Speaker 1: the World Cup, like sense sent sense like the opening 925 00:53:12,800 --> 00:53:15,400 Speaker 1: for applications to get this World Cup in Brazil to happen. 926 00:53:16,280 --> 00:53:19,719 Speaker 1: And what you know, this this, this campaign to get 927 00:53:19,760 --> 00:53:23,200 Speaker 1: the World Cup takes the form of a literally all 928 00:53:23,239 --> 00:53:27,000 Speaker 1: out war against leftist protesters, squatters, workers, people living in 929 00:53:27,000 --> 00:53:28,759 Speaker 1: favela as people who are literally all of those at 930 00:53:28,800 --> 00:53:30,960 Speaker 1: the same time. Who are you know, supposed to be 931 00:53:31,000 --> 00:53:34,600 Speaker 1: the PT space. And this is what the PT spends 932 00:53:34,840 --> 00:53:37,120 Speaker 1: literally the rest of its time and power doing, right, 933 00:53:37,760 --> 00:53:42,759 Speaker 1: like Jilma Roussof implements much of austerity measures like this, 934 00:53:42,880 --> 00:53:44,920 Speaker 1: the spending police powers like this is the ship that 935 00:53:44,960 --> 00:53:48,120 Speaker 1: the PT is doing, like literally as the grim reaper 936 00:53:48,200 --> 00:53:50,719 Speaker 1: is coming to their door. Like two months before de 937 00:53:50,840 --> 00:53:54,440 Speaker 1: la Roussef is impeached, she passed a pair of a 938 00:53:54,480 --> 00:54:00,000 Speaker 1: pair of anti terrorism laws targeted at protesters. And Okay, 939 00:54:00,000 --> 00:54:02,640 Speaker 1: we're gonna we'll go into the impeachment next episode, but 940 00:54:02,880 --> 00:54:08,000 Speaker 1: I want to close on this was preventing this from happening, right, 941 00:54:08,040 --> 00:54:12,080 Speaker 1: Preventing the Party of Workers from fucking rolling tanks through 942 00:54:12,080 --> 00:54:16,600 Speaker 1: the streets in in in in in fucking working class neighborhoods, 943 00:54:16,600 --> 00:54:19,920 Speaker 1: like this is the actual sort of beating of of 944 00:54:20,120 --> 00:54:22,200 Speaker 1: And this is this is the actual sort of principal 945 00:54:22,200 --> 00:54:24,439 Speaker 1: politics of anti capitalism like that, this this is why 946 00:54:24,880 --> 00:54:27,200 Speaker 1: there is a sort of rigid anarchist opposition to the state. Right, 947 00:54:27,200 --> 00:54:30,279 Speaker 1: this isn't just ideological purity, is the concrete knowledge that 948 00:54:30,320 --> 00:54:33,160 Speaker 1: any other path is death because we literally cannot continue 949 00:54:33,160 --> 00:54:34,960 Speaker 1: to do as the PT has been doing for the 950 00:54:34,960 --> 00:54:38,680 Speaker 1: past twenty years. To produce our own grave diggers. Literally, 951 00:54:38,760 --> 00:54:41,520 Speaker 1: the ecosystems we draw our life from will not survive 952 00:54:41,600 --> 00:54:43,279 Speaker 1: if we keep doing this. It does not matter how 953 00:54:43,280 --> 00:54:45,440 Speaker 1: many people you live you lift out of poverty. If 954 00:54:45,480 --> 00:54:49,560 Speaker 1: you do not actually destroy the class system, capitalism and 955 00:54:49,560 --> 00:54:51,920 Speaker 1: fascism will force them back into poverty. All of the poverty, 956 00:54:51,920 --> 00:54:54,359 Speaker 1: like almost all the poverty gains that Lula gained during 957 00:54:54,360 --> 00:54:56,120 Speaker 1: this entire time in Officers, were destroyed in four years 958 00:54:56,120 --> 00:54:59,080 Speaker 1: of will scenarrow. Every day that the state is allowed 959 00:54:59,080 --> 00:55:01,200 Speaker 1: to exist, every day the class system is allowed to exist, 960 00:55:01,239 --> 00:55:03,200 Speaker 1: it creates a thousand more bull scenarrows. It creates a 961 00:55:03,200 --> 00:55:04,960 Speaker 1: thousand bull scenarrows. And the police that creates them, of 962 00:55:05,000 --> 00:55:07,200 Speaker 1: the armies, it creates them, incorporations, it creates them on 963 00:55:07,239 --> 00:55:10,120 Speaker 1: the streets, and they have to be destroyed or this 964 00:55:10,200 --> 00:55:12,960 Speaker 1: world will fucking burn. And in the next episode we 965 00:55:13,000 --> 00:55:15,360 Speaker 1: are going to watch a thousand person Pullsonarros burn the 966 00:55:15,480 --> 00:55:21,880 Speaker 1: entire country. And that that is my incredibly angry response 967 00:55:22,120 --> 00:55:29,160 Speaker 1: to this absolute fucking bullshit. That is the reason like 968 00:55:29,239 --> 00:55:32,600 Speaker 1: our are are a lot of the reasons why everything 969 00:55:32,760 --> 00:55:40,080 Speaker 1: is completely fucked cool. Well, everybody, have a happy start 970 00:55:40,080 --> 00:55:44,960 Speaker 1: of November. And hopefully Brazil isn't in a state of 971 00:55:45,000 --> 00:55:48,799 Speaker 1: civil war by the time you listen to this episode. Yeah, 972 00:55:48,960 --> 00:55:52,120 Speaker 1: I update at the end of the episode. I don't 973 00:55:52,120 --> 00:55:55,040 Speaker 1: think there's been any chance. Remember, Remember, folks, if you 974 00:55:55,200 --> 00:55:59,920 Speaker 1: somehow take control of the political apparatus in Brazil, dismay 975 00:56:00,040 --> 00:56:03,239 Speaker 1: until the police in the military. Um, that's that. That 976 00:56:03,280 --> 00:56:05,319 Speaker 1: should be. That should be a lesson for you. I 977 00:56:05,360 --> 00:56:07,040 Speaker 1: know a lot of you are on the verge of 978 00:56:07,080 --> 00:56:10,839 Speaker 1: taking power in Brazil, so hopefully, hopefully that message will 979 00:56:10,840 --> 00:56:15,319 Speaker 1: get out. Yeah, and I media in general, don't fund them, like, 980 00:56:15,440 --> 00:56:17,960 Speaker 1: don't give them more money, don't spend a bunch of 981 00:56:17,960 --> 00:56:22,080 Speaker 1: money buying them. German tanks like, well what do you do? Okay? 982 00:56:22,120 --> 00:56:24,880 Speaker 1: Like why what? Why are we focusing on German tanks? 983 00:56:24,880 --> 00:56:29,040 Speaker 1: They make fine tanks. Okay, here we go here. Can 984 00:56:29,040 --> 00:56:31,120 Speaker 1: you name a single good thing a German tank has 985 00:56:31,160 --> 00:56:36,160 Speaker 1: ever been used for? Yeah, I'm guessing yeah, they did 986 00:56:36,239 --> 00:56:39,160 Speaker 1: some communists probably, I don't. I don't know. Um, let's 987 00:56:39,680 --> 00:56:45,759 Speaker 1: have anyway killed a lot of Englishmen anyway and Canadians. 988 00:56:50,520 --> 00:56:52,920 Speaker 1: It could happen here as a production of Cool Zone Media. 989 00:56:53,120 --> 00:56:55,800 Speaker 1: But more podcasts from Cool Zone Media, visit our website 990 00:56:55,800 --> 00:56:57,960 Speaker 1: cool zone media dot com, or check us out on 991 00:56:58,000 --> 00:57:00,799 Speaker 1: the I Heart Radio app, Apple podcasts. 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