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Speaker 1: and Concert and asked to arrive at audition number two

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Speaker 1: But as she left the audition room, after having stood

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Speaker 1: This was the strangest audition process she had ever taken

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Speaker 1: part in. Didn't they want to hear the North London

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Speaker 1: it was too good to be true, and you know what,

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Speaker 1: they say about things. It seemed to be too good

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Speaker 1: to be true. Something smelled reeked. The actress opened her

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Speaker 1: The man who claimed to be the casting director was

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Speaker 1: Basse Hologram. The actress was familiar with the name of

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Speaker 1: that company because it was all over the news that

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Speaker 1: edge technology, which would digitally project her image on stage

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Speaker 1: next to a live backing band for a three year

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Speaker 1: She knew what this was. It wasn't a movie. She

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Speaker 1: She had been lied to, deceived. Did they think she

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Speaker 1: was stupid? This so called movie production team? Had they

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Speaker 1: just been using her all along, surreptitiously creating an Amy

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Speaker 1: Winehouse hologram from the actress's own body the room clammed up,

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Speaker 1: and nobody said anything. No admission of guilt, and no

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Speaker 1: Nile either. They thanked the actress for her time and

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Speaker 1: said they would be in touch. They never called her

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Speaker 1: again in two thousand eighteen. The concept of a hologram

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Speaker 1: tour wasn't exactly new. Tupac made his bow from the

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Speaker 1: Great Beyond a Cochella in two thousand twelve, but the

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Speaker 1: artists who had their digital likeness left from state to

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Speaker 1: state and stage to stage, like Roy Orbison, Buddy Holly

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Speaker 1: and Maria Callis, tended to be icons from older generations.

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Speaker 1: Amy Winehouse hadn't even been gone for one decade. Into

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Speaker 1: many fans, the supposed tribute felt more like an exploitation

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Speaker 1: than the celebration. Amy's parents disagreed the project had their

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Speaker 1: unconditional support, but even though the proceeds of the tour

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Speaker 1: were set to benefit the Amy Winehouse Foundation, or registered

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Speaker 1: charity established to eight young people in need of substance

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Speaker 1: abuse and mental health assistance, many accused Amy's family of exploitation.

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Speaker 1: The backlash came fast and furious. Amy's ex husband, Blake Fielder,

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Speaker 1: civil second into fans emotion. In the press. He accused

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Speaker 1: Amy's family of cashing in on her legacy. On the

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Speaker 1: Good Morning Britain television show, host Piers Morgan was quick

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Speaker 1: to point out that Blake was himself already guilty of

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Speaker 1: cashing in on the Amy's legacy, having sold details of

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Speaker 1: her life to the tabloids, the very people who had

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Speaker 1: made her life a living how in the first place,

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Speaker 1: to shape heers. Facing negative publicity and scandal, the Amy

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Speaker 1: Winehouse Hologram Tour was postponed, but not for long. Just

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Speaker 1: a few years later, in the summer of two thousand

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Speaker 1: twenty one, Base Hologram announced that they were once again

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Speaker 1: moving forward with the plan to digitally replicate the experience

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Speaker 1: of seeing Amy Winehouse performed live, which, of course was ridiculous.

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Speaker 1: There was no replicating Amy Winehouse. Didn't matter if it

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Speaker 1: was a good Night on stage or a veritable ship

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Speaker 1: show that they were using as their base. A holic

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Speaker 1: ram tour was created around the concept of taking something

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Speaker 1: out of the past for the benefit of the present. Sure,

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Speaker 1: but the execution was a mere fact simile Amy Winehouse.

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Speaker 1: Her voice was something that came out of the past.

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Speaker 1: It leapt out from the white noise static in between

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Speaker 1: radio frequencies and it possessed her. It was a vibe

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Speaker 1: from decades before that was reanimated within a new vibe

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Speaker 1: that was being built for tomorrow. It was magic. It

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Speaker 1: was voodoo. No one would ever be able to control it,

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Speaker 1: not record executives, not record producers, not ex husbands, and

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Speaker 1: certainly not hologram companies. Trying to control it was a

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Speaker 1: losing game, and at the end of each show, the

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Speaker 1: projective controlling the hologram would go dark and the image

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Speaker 1: of Amy Winehouse would fade back the black, And that

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Speaker 1: might have been the most realistic part of the whole

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Speaker 1: damn show. I'm Jake Brennan in this is they call

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