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Speaker 1: the podcast. Josh Clark, Chuck Bryant. We're here for you.

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Speaker 1: How you doing, Chuck? I'm doing well, Josh. I'm doing

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Speaker 1: pretty good. To Chuck, I drank a vault on an

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Speaker 1: I do? I do? This is my second one, right,

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Speaker 1: I don't even know what that is. I'm about to

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Speaker 1: great news item for you. Ready, Okay. So it turns

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Speaker 1: out the sovereign Nation of New Zealand actually enforces its

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Speaker 1: law that you can't give a child the name over

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Speaker 1: a name that could prove socially handicapping. You want to

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Speaker 1: you want to hear an example? Charles Manson, No, no, no,

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Speaker 1: And arguably I like it. I think it's very lilting

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Speaker 1: and sweet, but it's arguably worse than Charles Mason. There's

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Speaker 1: an a year old girl who was in the midst

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Speaker 1: of the Corps so she could legally change her name herself.

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Speaker 1: Tallula does the hula from Hawaii? I'm not kidding. Is

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Speaker 1: you know, it's it's separate words. Um, and I think

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Speaker 1: And another one that made it through is Midnight Chardonnay,

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Speaker 1: which I think Q Grant probably has designs on that

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Speaker 1: parents gave you? Did you change it? No, Charles Wayne.

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Speaker 1: you have your original name, you know anything about this

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Speaker 1: You know, my wife actually changed the spelling of her

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Speaker 1: But she never legally got it changed. But it just

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Speaker 1: I think I know what you're getting to, yes, Chuck,

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Speaker 1: How could one erase their identity and start over. That's

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Speaker 1: what article makes Chuck think of Frankenstein. Right after this,

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Speaker 1: What article is it, Chuck? Well, it's sort of misleading.

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Speaker 1: because Johnny Winner famously is has albinism along with his brother,

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Speaker 1: ear worm. Well that's fantastic, Chuck. So you can read

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