WEBVTT - Talkin' Cowboys: Draft Preview & Pet Cats 0:00:02.440 --> 0:00:05.000 The following. He's a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 0:00:05.000 --> 0:00:16.400 and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. This he's Talking Cowboys 0:00:16.800 --> 0:00:20.200 Screaming live from the Dallas Cowboys World Hours at the 0:00:20.280 --> 0:00:32.800 Star in Frisco. Here are Mickey Spagnola, Brian Brats, Rob Phillips, 0:00:33.080 --> 0:00:37.200 and Bill Jones. All right here it is. It's Tuesday 0:00:37.520 --> 0:00:40.720 of Draft week, and it is time for a draft 0:00:40.880 --> 0:00:47.200 preview edition of Talking Cowboys Live from the Star in Frisco. 0:00:47.400 --> 0:00:51.519 Bill Jones, Mickey Spagnola, Rob Phillips, Brian brought us kid 0:00:51.640 --> 0:00:55.279 Garrison taking your phone calls. Well, you're gonna break it 0:00:55.320 --> 0:00:58.880 down and go step by step through. Brian brought us 0:00:58.920 --> 0:01:01.120 top one hundred. How How do you like the sound 0:01:01.160 --> 0:01:03.480 of that? Brian, Let's do whatever we have to do. 0:01:03.800 --> 0:01:07.080 I'm all for that. Y'all ready for the draft? Yah know? 0:01:07.160 --> 0:01:09.200 Brian is yeah? I'm Rob. You ready for the draft? 0:01:09.280 --> 0:01:14.200 I'm ready. I'm ready for Thursday, most likely Friday, ready 0:01:14.240 --> 0:01:16.680 for them to add players. Let's do it. Mickey, you're 0:01:16.720 --> 0:01:18.720 ready for the draft. I did? I shaved. I'm ready 0:01:18.720 --> 0:01:20.880 to go. Oh you did. That's right. I didn't look 0:01:20.880 --> 0:01:25.760 at your face yet. Thanks? All right, you shaved? Off 0:01:25.760 --> 0:01:29.240 your playoff Beard, that's right, just as the Stars advanced 0:01:29.280 --> 0:01:31.880 to the next round of the playoffs before they won 0:01:32.000 --> 0:01:33.880 last all right, so there you go. That may be 0:01:34.040 --> 0:01:37.920 the reason they won by a whisker last night. All right. 0:01:38.640 --> 0:01:42.240 As we approached draft day, and okay, do you think 0:01:42.240 --> 0:01:45.280 the Cowboys can trade into the first round, Rob Phillips, 0:01:46.080 --> 0:01:50.760 They could is if they trade something next year. They 0:01:50.800 --> 0:01:53.000 want to trade head because they can take your entire 0:01:53.120 --> 0:01:54.920 draft this year and they still can't get into the 0:01:54.960 --> 0:01:58.520 first round. You know, those pre draft press conferences are 0:02:00.080 --> 0:02:02.360 they are what they are. You don't learn much from it, 0:02:02.440 --> 0:02:05.520 but I you do get the sense they love those 0:02:05.560 --> 0:02:08.799 first round picks. And I mean Jerry was flat out 0:02:08.840 --> 0:02:12.040 honest saying it's no fun not having won. No offense 0:02:12.080 --> 0:02:15.280 to Amari Cooper, they love him, uh, but they value 0:02:15.280 --> 0:02:17.080 those first rounders. Who would you like to trade the 0:02:17.080 --> 0:02:19.639 first round four? That's your question. You're not going for 0:02:19.720 --> 0:02:24.680 a position, You're going for a player you interested. Rickey Williams, Yeah, 0:02:24.720 --> 0:02:28.639 I think I think of And it kind of gets 0:02:28.639 --> 0:02:30.880 to what Gil Brandt was talking about, and Brian broad 0:02:30.919 --> 0:02:34.800 Us would probably echo those thoughts. Those those premier players 0:02:34.880 --> 0:02:37.680 probably go hold deep in that first round. They're off 0:02:38.440 --> 0:02:43.480 first round grades. Yeah, but I mean the the and 0:02:43.639 --> 0:02:48.360 you probably twelve of those twenty four are real difference makers, 0:02:48.520 --> 0:02:50.760 you know. Yeah, I mean you could start, I mean 0:02:51.200 --> 0:02:55.160 to me, and it gets down to I think that 0:02:55.320 --> 0:03:00.320 it would stop with me right around probably eight team. 0:03:00.400 --> 0:03:02.040 There you go, it is where it would stop. There 0:03:02.080 --> 0:03:04.840 you go. Yeah, So if you go from nineteen to 0:03:05.440 --> 0:03:08.160 forty something fifty and there's not a huge difference. We 0:03:08.240 --> 0:03:09.880 got to target a team in the back end. If 0:03:09.880 --> 0:03:12.000 we're gonna do this, you got to target a team 0:03:12.040 --> 0:03:14.800 with multiple picks, team that we're probably willing to move. 0:03:15.280 --> 0:03:17.720 Packers have multiple picks in the back of that round. 0:03:19.040 --> 0:03:21.959 The Raiders, of course have multiple picks. They've got twenty four, 0:03:22.000 --> 0:03:25.600 which is Chicago twenty seven, which is your own, you know. 0:03:26.000 --> 0:03:27.639 But what it would given what it would cost, what 0:03:27.720 --> 0:03:30.040 we just talked about, would it be more likely for 0:03:30.080 --> 0:03:32.639 them to try to make a small jump on day 0:03:32.639 --> 0:03:34.840 two if there's a guy they don't want to let 0:03:35.240 --> 0:03:37.760 slip away. We can go from fifty eight to forty 0:03:37.760 --> 0:03:40.440 five if we want to give up that ninety. That's 0:03:40.440 --> 0:03:42.119 how we have to think about it right there, which 0:03:42.160 --> 0:03:44.040 is exactly what they did. In twenty fourteen, they just 0:03:44.280 --> 0:03:47.080 thirteen spots for d Law and gave up their third 0:03:47.160 --> 0:03:48.880 rounder that year in addition to their sulf Okay, so 0:03:48.920 --> 0:03:52.400 that is a more realistic trade up. Okay, If I 0:03:53.040 --> 0:03:57.000 or first, can I get Quinnon and Williams? How many? 0:03:57.240 --> 0:04:00.400 How many future first rounder? Well you ask what all 0:04:00.400 --> 0:04:02.680 I want if I traded my first round pick. Let's 0:04:02.680 --> 0:04:04.320 say we want to get way up there and get 0:04:04.320 --> 0:04:07.080 somebody that's gonna walk in and start. Let's let's think 0:04:07.080 --> 0:04:09.560 about if you got to twenty four, where would you 0:04:09.840 --> 0:04:13.960 at twenty four? Where would you you know, to get 0:04:14.040 --> 0:04:16.440 to twenty four, Probably you're probably looking at your one, 0:04:16.480 --> 0:04:19.200 two and your three one next year, two, this year, three, 0:04:19.279 --> 0:04:23.160 next year. You're talking like a Noah fan yeah or yeah, yeah, 0:04:23.400 --> 0:04:25.440 talking like a yeah if you, like I said, you're 0:04:25.480 --> 0:04:27.280 gonna have to You're not looking at a position. You're 0:04:27.279 --> 0:04:29.599 looking you're going for a play player. If you're trying 0:04:29.600 --> 0:04:31.520 to get a player there, right. You know, if they 0:04:31.560 --> 0:04:34.279 had their pick at twenty seven, I think that that Williams, 0:04:34.320 --> 0:04:38.800 the kid from uh excuse me, Jeffrey Simmons from from 0:04:38.800 --> 0:04:40.800 Mississippi State, would be it would have been a heck 0:04:40.839 --> 0:04:44.440 of a pick right there, even though it's despite the injury. Yeah, well, yeah, 0:04:44.520 --> 0:04:46.440 that that right there, that's a pick that a general 0:04:46.440 --> 0:04:49.440 manager that's not going anywhere. That's what pick a guy 0:04:49.480 --> 0:04:52.080 like that makes because that's a guy it's gonna get 0:04:52.120 --> 0:04:55.240 healthy and he's gonna be he Mickey mentioned Quinn and Williams. 0:04:55.279 --> 0:04:57.599 This guy's a tick below Quinnon Williams in my opinion 0:04:57.640 --> 0:05:00.719 when you talk about defensive tackles and how disruptive he 0:05:00.760 --> 0:05:02.280 can be and how many times have they done it? 0:05:02.320 --> 0:05:06.240 Really in the second round, Jalen Smith, Bruce Carter go 0:05:06.320 --> 0:05:09.240 down the list, and Shaun Lee Shaun Lee coming off 0:05:09.320 --> 0:05:11.600 a CL's at Penn State. Yeah, and it's paid off, 0:05:12.400 --> 0:05:14.720 but not in the first not in the first. More 0:05:14.839 --> 0:05:18.960 they've been second round picks, if if if Okay, basically 0:05:19.040 --> 0:05:21.640 what you're looking at it twenty seven anyway is a 0:05:21.680 --> 0:05:23.640 second round grade, very similar to what you did with 0:05:23.720 --> 0:05:26.799 Travis Frederick picking him at thirty. They had a second 0:05:26.880 --> 0:05:29.520 round grade on Travis Frederick at the time. So that's 0:05:29.600 --> 0:05:32.720 you're looking at a second round player anyway. That's what 0:05:32.839 --> 0:05:34.440 this trap I mean. Do you talk to people around 0:05:34.480 --> 0:05:36.160 the league, they think this draft is really going to 0:05:36.200 --> 0:05:39.120 be good between rounds three and five. So we got 0:05:39.240 --> 0:05:42.000 to think three and five. We got to think about 0:05:42.040 --> 0:05:45.360 if we want to if we really want to give 0:05:45.440 --> 0:05:47.960 up our if we want to give up ninety, that 0:05:48.120 --> 0:05:51.000 pick at ninety, we have to think about that. Well, 0:05:51.000 --> 0:05:54.160 if it's if it's strong between three and five, then 0:05:54.279 --> 0:05:57.160 I'm talking trade back from fifty eight then and pick 0:05:57.279 --> 0:06:00.040 up an extra. You gotta be three to five to 0:06:00.040 --> 0:06:02.080 figure out who were trading away from. Now that's the 0:06:02.200 --> 0:06:05.200 next trade, right, and you have somebody there? Do you 0:06:05.279 --> 0:06:08.440 have somebody there that people are very interested in? Because 0:06:08.520 --> 0:06:10.680 you're not going to get somebody it's really easy to 0:06:10.760 --> 0:06:12.800 say trade back and then you don't get the value 0:06:12.880 --> 0:06:15.920 like they did in that Travis Travis Rider trade. They 0:06:15.920 --> 0:06:18.040 should have got a second round pick from forty nine ers, 0:06:18.120 --> 0:06:19.640 but but they had to take what they had to 0:06:19.720 --> 0:06:22.520 take because of trying to find, you know, to follow 0:06:22.520 --> 0:06:25.320 that many spots. So you have to you have to 0:06:25.440 --> 0:06:27.960 think about where you have to have a player, and 0:06:28.040 --> 0:06:29.719 you have to have an idea of how far back 0:06:29.839 --> 0:06:32.760 you want to go on that player. So that's all 0:06:32.800 --> 0:06:35.200 the things that you mean. You know, it's real, it's difficult, 0:06:35.760 --> 0:06:38.000 it's it's more difficult to trade back than you think, 0:06:38.040 --> 0:06:43.040 because people since desperation, they sense they sense you panicking 0:06:43.160 --> 0:06:46.360 of not wanting to stand there and make a pick. Okay, 0:06:46.400 --> 0:06:49.040 I saw something on my Twitter timeline yesterday. I have 0:06:49.279 --> 0:06:51.920 no idea if there's any validity to it at all 0:06:52.400 --> 0:06:56.960 that maybe Adam Schefter reported something about San Francisco entertaining 0:06:57.080 --> 0:07:00.880 trade offers for Solomon Thomas if they are able to 0:07:00.960 --> 0:07:03.480 get who they want at number two overall, which they 0:07:03.680 --> 0:07:05.160 are going to be able to get who they want 0:07:05.200 --> 0:07:08.640 A Boso or Quinnan Williams was right there, right, All right, 0:07:08.920 --> 0:07:12.280 Let's just say that is just for grants. Let's say 0:07:12.440 --> 0:07:15.560 that's true and they are taking offers for Solomon Thomas. 0:07:16.400 --> 0:07:19.400 What would you be willing to give up to acquire 0:07:19.520 --> 0:07:23.160 Solomon Thomas from San Francisco. He's got three years of 0:07:23.280 --> 0:07:25.360 control left. We need to figure out where they had 0:07:25.400 --> 0:07:27.520 him in this stack when the year he came out 0:07:27.560 --> 0:07:29.320 and he was the third overall, was where he was 0:07:29.400 --> 0:07:31.520 drafted from San Francis. We need, of course, he's local 0:07:31.560 --> 0:07:33.680 from Coppel High School here in Dallas, right. We need 0:07:33.760 --> 0:07:35.640 to figure out if in fact that he was a 0:07:35.720 --> 0:07:38.640 top five player on this board, because then now you're 0:07:38.640 --> 0:07:41.760 in the similar, similar type of a situation. I think 0:07:41.920 --> 0:07:44.640 what the Arizona is trying to do with Rosen, you know, 0:07:44.720 --> 0:07:47.120 you don't want to you don't want to lose, you 0:07:47.160 --> 0:07:49.280 don't want to just get totally embarrassed and say Okay, 0:07:49.320 --> 0:07:52.240 we'll give you ninety and it works. I think that 0:07:52.280 --> 0:07:53.680 they're going to sit there and hold you up for 0:07:53.800 --> 0:07:56.240 fifty eight or something like that. I don't think they 0:07:56.320 --> 0:07:58.800 get a first for Solomon Thomas, but I think that 0:07:58.920 --> 0:08:00.960 they would. They would enter ten if you're saying, okay, 0:08:01.000 --> 0:08:03.360 we're willing to give you, you know, maybe fifty eight 0:08:03.480 --> 0:08:06.360 and maybe when you're compensed, that COMPENSI story four. So 0:08:06.640 --> 0:08:09.160 my question is would it be worth it to give 0:08:09.280 --> 0:08:13.600 up fifty eight for Solomon Thomas when you consider if 0:08:13.600 --> 0:08:15.560 you're hadh graded high. I mean, let's say you had 0:08:15.600 --> 0:08:19.080 it as a top five guy coming out, and when 0:08:19.160 --> 0:08:21.080 you consider the fact that you do have three years 0:08:21.120 --> 0:08:23.160 of control left with him, and you also have a 0:08:23.560 --> 0:08:26.600 situation where you're hunting three techniques to exactly you know 0:08:26.800 --> 0:08:30.360 where this team is one year from now at defensive tackle, Yeah, 0:08:30.400 --> 0:08:34.280 and it is defensive tackle. Rich In that fifty eight range, 0:08:34.320 --> 0:08:36.400 you're looking probably a guy you're probably gonna have to 0:08:36.920 --> 0:08:39.080 You're probably gonna have to take a guy early there 0:08:39.240 --> 0:08:42.760 that the Hill kid from Central Florida on my board 0:08:42.840 --> 0:08:46.040 more in that range of in the sixties. So what 0:08:46.120 --> 0:08:48.559 you're thinking about right there? Let me make sure I 0:08:48.640 --> 0:08:51.120 have that right. Yeah, Tristan Hill have a sixty seven. 0:08:51.679 --> 0:08:55.160 So yeah, that's about what nine spots early or nine 0:08:55.200 --> 0:08:58.440 spots you know later? Yeah, well where you have him ranked, 0:08:58.480 --> 0:09:01.679 but where you need probably need to him. Yeah. You 0:09:01.720 --> 0:09:04.080 know if you told me Solomon Thomas, I could get 0:09:04.200 --> 0:09:06.040 him for fifty eight. I think I would entertain that 0:09:06.280 --> 0:09:08.880 if I would too. Now would San Francisco take that? 0:09:08.960 --> 0:09:10.520 I don't know. Yeah, but they're not going to get 0:09:10.520 --> 0:09:12.240 a one out of that, right I just told I 0:09:12.320 --> 0:09:17.600 just see, I'm not getting a one. They're trolling, trolling 0:09:17.679 --> 0:09:20.600 for what, Well, they're just throwing stuff out there. Why 0:09:20.640 --> 0:09:25.920 would San Francisco is or their reporters are well wait 0:09:26.120 --> 0:09:32.520 here here I read this. Somebody reported that Pittsburgh is 0:09:32.600 --> 0:09:37.720 willing to do just about anything to back out. They 0:09:37.760 --> 0:09:41.280 didn't say they said they it would be it. They 0:09:41.320 --> 0:09:45.480 were willing to do anything. Okay, so that means any 0:09:45.559 --> 0:09:50.839 position any heard the same thing about Yeah, Kevin Colbert 0:09:50.880 --> 0:09:52.959 will usually stand in there and make picks. That's kind 0:09:52.960 --> 0:09:57.199 of his end, right, Pittsburgh's Pittsburgh. It's very not opposed 0:09:57.280 --> 0:10:01.559 to anything that's good about that. Yeah, all right, when 0:10:01.640 --> 0:10:04.280 you look I think when you look at this draft 0:10:04.480 --> 0:10:07.679 or any draft, and when you look at needs on 0:10:07.800 --> 0:10:11.800 a team, you have to I think some people get 0:10:11.840 --> 0:10:14.079 caught up in what are the needs right now on 0:10:14.160 --> 0:10:16.160 this team? But I think you have to look ahead, 0:10:16.720 --> 0:10:19.280 what are the needs a year from now and two 0:10:19.400 --> 0:10:21.880 years from now on this team? And when you do 0:10:22.040 --> 0:10:25.959 that with this Cowboys roster the way it is in 0:10:26.040 --> 0:10:30.160 the Cowboys contracts, what are the biggest positions of need 0:10:30.280 --> 0:10:33.719 a year from now, not now, but a year from now. Well, 0:10:33.760 --> 0:10:36.400 you're you're losing two corners, right, You're likely going to 0:10:36.480 --> 0:10:41.280 lose Byron Jones a contractually and Anthony Brown. And then 0:10:41.320 --> 0:10:43.760 the following year you lose two more corners with a 0:10:43.840 --> 0:10:48.440 Woozier and Lewis. And you've got three safeties on one 0:10:48.520 --> 0:10:52.079 year deals right now, Jeff Heath, Cavon Fraser, and George I. 0:10:52.160 --> 0:10:55.319 Loco you just signed. So that whole second just to 0:10:55.360 --> 0:11:00.199 have Woods better contract, Yeah, that whole secondary could look 0:11:00.280 --> 0:11:03.200 vastly different a year from now. Now. Look at defensive tackle. Yeah, 0:11:05.360 --> 0:11:09.600 defensive tackle, You've got Daniel Ross on a one year deal. 0:11:09.840 --> 0:11:15.160 You've got Malik on a one year deal. Covington Hyder. 0:11:15.440 --> 0:11:19.320 Hyder's off one wood situation because he had some practice 0:11:19.320 --> 0:11:22.000 squad time. If he's in his fourth year in the league. 0:11:22.040 --> 0:11:25.640 But is he the human log is an exclusive rights 0:11:26.320 --> 0:11:28.880 he'll be restricted, right, So he don't think he's the 0:11:29.000 --> 0:11:32.200 only one. Yeah, yeah, I think he is the only 0:11:32.280 --> 0:11:34.760 one that you've got a year from now basically under 0:11:34.800 --> 0:11:40.120 contract or defensive tackle. Look at wide receiver. We haven't 0:11:40.160 --> 0:11:43.360 thought about wide receiver that much. Well, you need to. Nope, 0:11:43.440 --> 0:11:46.720 Noah Brown, Alan Hearns. Noah Brown would have one year 0:11:46.800 --> 0:11:50.040 left on his deal. Randall Cobb's got a one year deal, Hearns. 0:11:50.320 --> 0:11:52.760 Hearns is in this last just as his last year. 0:11:52.840 --> 0:11:57.200 Austin's in one year deal. Yep, right, Cobb. And then 0:11:57.520 --> 0:11:59.880 and then you just lost Cole Beasley and Terrence will 0:12:00.480 --> 0:12:04.000 and you gotta do something with Amari Cooper and so Cooper, 0:12:04.280 --> 0:12:06.679 we're gonna assume they're gonna sign Cooper and you'd have 0:12:06.840 --> 0:12:10.480 Gallop and then beyond that, you got Noah Brown would 0:12:10.520 --> 0:12:12.640 have one year left and Cedric Wilson would have two 0:12:12.679 --> 0:12:17.160 years left, and that's it. So that's a sneaky need 0:12:17.280 --> 0:12:20.840 right there. Yes, you could even say you could even 0:12:20.880 --> 0:12:24.160 look at defensive end and say, you know, Robert Quinn 0:12:24.280 --> 0:12:25.760 is here and he's gonna help this team a lot, 0:12:26.160 --> 0:12:29.200 but it's a one year deal, and um, and who 0:12:29.280 --> 0:12:31.719 knows what Randy Gregory's future is, what his status is 0:12:32.200 --> 0:12:35.040 this year, and Taco might not play well either, Taco 0:12:35.200 --> 0:12:37.679 move on from that. Um, So, yeah, Bill, you're right, 0:12:37.840 --> 0:12:41.240 I mean gott to be his last year, right Taco? Yeah, Okay, 0:12:41.520 --> 0:12:44.520 if he doesn't, they could go any something. How about 0:12:44.800 --> 0:12:47.080 how about offensive line? He's not gonna get the fifth 0:12:47.160 --> 0:12:49.240 year tender, if that's what you're asking. Yeah, yeah, but 0:12:49.360 --> 0:12:52.040 he's got one more year before that, right right, all right? 0:12:52.320 --> 0:12:54.840 How about his defensive line a year from now? Lyle 0:12:54.960 --> 0:12:57.839 Collins is on a one one year left, so you 0:12:57.960 --> 0:13:00.600 got an opening at right tackle that could be I'm fleming. 0:13:01.040 --> 0:13:03.199 Cam Fleming is on a two year deal. Now they 0:13:03.280 --> 0:13:05.120 got Cam Fleming. I think Cam Fleming, this is what 0:13:05.200 --> 0:13:07.400 I think is gonna happen there at offensive line. I 0:13:07.480 --> 0:13:09.200 think if your Cam Fleming is gonna be your starter 0:13:09.200 --> 0:13:11.560 at right tackle, or they're gonna move Connor Williams back 0:13:11.600 --> 0:13:13.760 out like they did Lyle Collins. They're gonna let him 0:13:13.760 --> 0:13:17.600 play guard, then move him mouth to tackle and then guard. Yeah, 0:13:17.600 --> 0:13:19.200 and then they'll find a guard and then and then 0:13:20.120 --> 0:13:22.760 let's let's hope and pray that everything goes well with 0:13:22.880 --> 0:13:25.000 Travis Frederick and he's back out on good the other 0:13:25.080 --> 0:13:27.200 day when I had his chances move on Saturday, as 0:13:27.240 --> 0:13:29.560 he said, you know, he doesn't know for sure until 0:13:29.600 --> 0:13:31.640 he gets into training camp. Yeah, exactly what he's got 0:13:31.760 --> 0:13:38.199 coming better though. Yeah, sure that's and yeah Ann Xavier Suaphilo, 0:13:38.559 --> 0:13:41.600 Yeah there's another one. So, yeah, theyn't have enough picks. 0:13:44.440 --> 0:13:48.000 Another reason why literally make up the picks as you 0:13:48.040 --> 0:13:50.760 could get. They've got like thirty guys up at the 0:13:50.840 --> 0:13:52.760 end of next year. Now to your point, you gotta 0:13:52.760 --> 0:13:56.960 do something with amari Um Dak Prescott obviously, but yeah, 0:13:57.120 --> 0:13:59.800 I mean the meat of the bulk of your roster 0:14:01.320 --> 0:14:02.959 has got to be addressed a year from now. So 0:14:03.040 --> 0:14:05.160 if you think of it that way, getting rid of 0:14:05.280 --> 0:14:08.400 picks this year is not real smartype. Yep, that was 0:14:08.440 --> 0:14:10.640 our mail. Bad question this morning. Actually would you would 0:14:10.640 --> 0:14:14.480 you stockpile? Yeah, And I'm of the what you were 0:14:14.480 --> 0:14:16.199 saying earlier kind of reminded me a little bit of 0:14:16.200 --> 0:14:18.120 two thousand and nine, where it's like, oh, yeah, let's 0:14:18.120 --> 0:14:21.400 trade back, let's add picks. Are you getting the quality 0:14:21.560 --> 0:14:24.120 as opposed to the quantity instead of just sitting there 0:14:24.160 --> 0:14:26.160 and picking good football players that might be able to 0:14:26.200 --> 0:14:27.920 compete to start for you, if not this year, the 0:14:28.000 --> 0:14:29.720 next year, got to sit there and just take every 0:14:29.800 --> 0:14:32.640 pick they have. That that's when this team seems to 0:14:32.720 --> 0:14:34.920 do their best when they just sit there and pick players, 0:14:35.360 --> 0:14:37.640 trust the board, and go for it. That's you know, 0:14:37.720 --> 0:14:39.720 the moving up, the moving back and all that stuff 0:14:39.760 --> 0:14:42.760 that's great to it's great makes a great theater for 0:14:42.840 --> 0:14:46.200 the diet. But in actuality though, when they actually do 0:14:46.280 --> 0:14:48.200 their best when they sit there and just pick players. 0:14:48.360 --> 0:14:52.200 How many positions Zach Martin, Yeah right, yeah, how many positions? 0:14:52.280 --> 0:14:55.200 Did we just mentioned that they would have a need 0:14:55.680 --> 0:15:01.280 even our next year corner, safety, defensive tackle, defensive end, 0:15:01.760 --> 0:15:06.200 wide receiver, offensive line, and you can throw tight end 0:15:06.280 --> 0:15:08.280 in there too, and you still don't have a backup 0:15:08.400 --> 0:15:10.960 running back. And we sit there and we're talking about 0:15:10.960 --> 0:15:12.760 all these you know what's going to happen next year 0:15:12.840 --> 0:15:14.960 with all these with all the movement and stuff like that, 0:15:15.120 --> 0:15:17.400 and guys potentially gone, They'll just do the same thing 0:15:17.480 --> 0:15:19.720 they did again this year. They'll determine a bunch of 0:15:19.760 --> 0:15:22.320 one year contracts and and go. You know, they got 0:15:22.400 --> 0:15:24.840 they got. They got Cam Fleming back on a two 0:15:24.920 --> 0:15:27.240 year deal from on a you know, it was only 0:15:27.280 --> 0:15:29.120 on a one year deal that that. You know, we 0:15:29.360 --> 0:15:31.480 we we talk about all the I think you need 0:15:31.560 --> 0:15:34.120 to worry about the positions that they need to worry 0:15:34.120 --> 0:15:36.760 about the positions where they have potential loss of starters. 0:15:37.280 --> 0:15:39.160 You know, I think you look at the cornerback spot, 0:15:39.560 --> 0:15:43.440 you look at they could potentially lose a guy with uh, 0:15:43.480 --> 0:15:46.280 you know, lose a starter with the Collins I believe, Yeah, 0:15:46.320 --> 0:15:49.360 Malie Collins is and live Collins a year from now too. 0:15:49.680 --> 0:15:52.040 Absolutely Crawford. I mean there's guys that they could probably 0:15:52.080 --> 0:15:54.040 move on from. But yeah, but I think you need 0:15:54.080 --> 0:15:56.560 to focus more. They can as long as they have 0:15:56.680 --> 0:16:00.320 the core their roster signed that the Zekes that docks 0:16:00.400 --> 0:16:02.920 those kind of guys, then you could focus in on 0:16:03.640 --> 0:16:05.720 the camp Flemings of the world and guys like that 0:16:05.880 --> 0:16:07.960 to help you with the depth on those one year deals. 0:16:08.720 --> 0:16:11.040 For sure, they've also got two. If you look at 0:16:11.080 --> 0:16:13.120 their roster, I think Hellman counted it up. They have 0:16:13.200 --> 0:16:15.920 the ability after the draft to have add about thirteen, 0:16:17.760 --> 0:16:20.520 you know, undrafted players. You know they've they've had a 0:16:20.680 --> 0:16:23.760 great history here of adding one or two guys that 0:16:23.960 --> 0:16:26.120 kind of makes a difference in that regard. So hopefully 0:16:26.160 --> 0:16:28.440 that will be another thing that Chris you know that 0:16:28.640 --> 0:16:31.760 Chris hall is, he continues to man and they continue 0:16:31.800 --> 0:16:34.160 to go off their board and get guys that they 0:16:34.240 --> 0:16:36.440 have draftable grades for That's where they're going to start 0:16:36.520 --> 0:16:38.720 after that draft. So you know, once that picks over 0:16:38.800 --> 0:16:40.480 it in the seventh round, boom, there they go to 0:16:40.520 --> 0:16:43.320 work and hopefully they can grab some guys that can 0:16:43.520 --> 0:16:47.120 can help them this season. Historically, yeah, one or two 0:16:47.200 --> 0:16:50.720 guys every year makes the team. Danny McCrae one of them. Ye, 0:16:51.200 --> 0:16:54.840 Bury Church. You can go down the list, Tony Romo, Yeah, absolutely, 0:16:55.160 --> 0:16:57.960 all right. The top one hundred is posted on Dallas 0:16:58.000 --> 0:17:01.240 Cowboys dot com. It was posted yesterday. Did you how 0:17:01.320 --> 0:17:04.240 much did you enjoy putting that together? It was difficult 0:17:04.280 --> 0:17:07.119 because I've never done I've usually done fifty. But the 0:17:07.200 --> 0:17:11.160 fact that they didn't have a first round pick required. Yeah. Yeah. 0:17:11.200 --> 0:17:13.560 What happens to you, though, is you get caught up 0:17:13.560 --> 0:17:16.399 on some guys that has very similar grades, you know, 0:17:16.600 --> 0:17:19.359 similar players that you know you get with those like 0:17:19.480 --> 0:17:22.040 the steal a Bill Parcel's line. Those wide receivers were 0:17:22.080 --> 0:17:24.840 stacked in there like club sandwiches. You know, it's one 0:17:24.840 --> 0:17:27.280 of those things. So you're trying to separate those guys. 0:17:27.880 --> 0:17:29.520 You're trying to there was a lot of quality at 0:17:29.600 --> 0:17:31.919 running back, there was a lot of quality at tight end. 0:17:32.480 --> 0:17:35.159 So you find yourself trying to put these guys in 0:17:35.240 --> 0:17:37.920 the right spot. You know, Mickey was asking me about 0:17:38.000 --> 0:17:39.760 Drew Locke. I think, Mickey, I have him at sixty 0:17:39.840 --> 0:17:42.320 four on my board. Here is what I'm looking at. 0:17:42.480 --> 0:17:44.679 So you know, but I thought that, you know, when 0:17:44.720 --> 0:17:47.159 you look at I thought Will Greer. It came down to, 0:17:47.320 --> 0:17:49.920 I think Will Greer and Locke are very similar type 0:17:49.960 --> 0:17:53.000 players for which look. I think Locke has a stronger arm. 0:17:53.280 --> 0:17:56.120 I think Will Greer is more accurate. So that's why 0:17:56.119 --> 0:17:57.720 I put them a little bit higher than where I 0:17:57.800 --> 0:18:00.479 had locked. So that's the problem you run into as 0:18:00.480 --> 0:18:02.360 you're trying to kind of figure out where a guy 0:18:02.520 --> 0:18:06.200 fits in the right spot on your board, but also 0:18:06.320 --> 0:18:09.639 though where they could potentially go, not so much for 0:18:09.720 --> 0:18:12.119 the Dallas Cowboys, but for the league in general. So 0:18:12.280 --> 0:18:15.520 at quarterback, you've got Locke as your number five quarterback. 0:18:15.640 --> 0:18:20.640 You've got Murray at number eleven overall, Haskins Ohio State 0:18:20.680 --> 0:18:25.600 at number fourteen. You've got Daniel Jones from Duke at 0:18:25.680 --> 0:18:29.240 thirty two, right, Will Greer at forty one, and Drew 0:18:29.320 --> 0:18:31.879 Locke at sixty four. There's your top five, Finley and 0:18:32.000 --> 0:18:35.600 Finlay's after and Finlay's after ninety three. Yeah, So I mean, 0:18:35.920 --> 0:18:37.919 like I say, I think someone will be very very 0:18:37.960 --> 0:18:40.399 happy with Drew Locke, you know, I you know, you 0:18:40.480 --> 0:18:42.879 watch him play. There's a lot, there's a lot to 0:18:43.000 --> 0:18:45.480 like about his ability. Like I said, I feel like 0:18:45.560 --> 0:18:47.639 that he has of the of the armed talent. You know, 0:18:47.720 --> 0:18:50.159 he's very much similar to what Haskins has, that that 0:18:50.320 --> 0:18:53.119 type of guy that can can throw off balance, doesn't 0:18:53.160 --> 0:18:55.199 have to have his feet set. But I just went 0:18:55.280 --> 0:18:57.960 for a little bit more accurate guy with career West Virginia. 0:18:58.000 --> 0:19:01.040 And it's it's hard to evaluate the big twelve guys too, 0:19:01.200 --> 0:19:04.040 because of the fact that the lack of defense that's 0:19:04.080 --> 0:19:07.920 played overall in that in that in that conference, it's 0:19:08.000 --> 0:19:11.000 it's tough because there's a lot of open throws, limited 0:19:11.040 --> 0:19:15.400 pass rush. Offensive lines are big. The Oklahoma line is huge. 0:19:15.640 --> 0:19:17.680 If you watch what you know, your your value where 0:19:17.680 --> 0:19:20.160 you had Samia gave him as a third round Yeah, 0:19:20.280 --> 0:19:24.879 Drew Samia absolutely. I mean position Oklahoma's got some players. 0:19:24.960 --> 0:19:27.520 I I just tried to be different from my board. 0:19:27.600 --> 0:19:30.800 That's the whole idea. Yeah, Okay, I laugh because you 0:19:30.920 --> 0:19:34.280 mentioned the big twelve defenses and I, oh lord, I 0:19:34.359 --> 0:19:37.520 had to watch that Oklahoma defense weekend in week out. Sure, 0:19:37.680 --> 0:19:39.840 And there's one guy you don't have in your top 0:19:39.920 --> 0:19:42.720 one hundred that I really like and this is gonna happen. 0:19:42.840 --> 0:19:45.640 I mean, it's some people like Vanilla's, I'm like chocolate whatever. 0:19:45.960 --> 0:19:49.440 Hakim Butler, the wide receiver from Iowa State. Yeah, but 0:19:49.640 --> 0:19:54.400 maybe it's because I saw him destroy Oklahoma not one 0:19:54.520 --> 0:19:57.639 year but two years in games and uh and so 0:19:58.240 --> 0:20:01.720 I like him. But I have dug into I haven't 0:20:01.800 --> 0:20:04.680 seen all the drops that others have seen in the 0:20:04.840 --> 0:20:07.760 route running. I'm just looking at I'm a drive by 0:20:07.920 --> 0:20:11.040 YouTube watcher, you know, And so I don't in the 0:20:11.080 --> 0:20:13.600 work that's that's you know, you have an opinion if 0:20:13.600 --> 0:20:16.879 you do the work. I appreciate that. I think with 0:20:17.080 --> 0:20:19.840 I think the thing that that that people people absolutely 0:20:19.960 --> 0:20:22.399 love Butler's size, there's no question about that. You know, 0:20:22.400 --> 0:20:25.400 you're telling my guy at six to five yeah, two 0:20:25.520 --> 0:20:27.479 you know, two hundred and twenty something pounds. I mean, 0:20:27.560 --> 0:20:29.520 he's a physical player with the ball in his hands. 0:20:29.600 --> 0:20:32.120 And but you do see some times where he'll body 0:20:32.200 --> 0:20:34.680