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Speaker 1: Star in Frisco. Here are Mickey Spagnola, Brian Brats, Rob Phillips,

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Speaker 1: and Bill Jones. All right here it is. It's Tuesday

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Speaker 1: of Draft week, and it is time for a draft

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Speaker 1: preview edition of Talking Cowboys Live from the Star in Frisco.

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Speaker 1: Bill Jones, Mickey Spagnola, Rob Phillips, Brian brought us kid

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Speaker 1: Garrison taking your phone calls. Well, you're gonna break it

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Speaker 1: down and go step by step through. Brian brought us

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Speaker 1: top one hundred. How How do you like the sound

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Speaker 1: of that? Brian, Let's do whatever we have to do.

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Speaker 1: I'm all for that. Y'all ready for the draft? Yah know?

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Speaker 1: Brian is yeah? I'm Rob. You ready for the draft?

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Speaker 1: I'm ready. I'm ready for Thursday, most likely Friday, ready

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Speaker 1: for them to add players. Let's do it. Mickey, you're

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Speaker 1: ready for the draft. I did? I shaved. I'm ready

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Speaker 1: to go. Oh you did. That's right. I didn't look

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Speaker 1: your playoff Beard, that's right, just as the Stars advanced

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Speaker 1: to the next round of the playoffs before they won

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Speaker 1: last all right, so there you go. That may be

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Speaker 1: the reason they won by a whisker last night. All right.

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Speaker 1: As we approached draft day, and okay, do you think

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Speaker 1: the Cowboys can trade into the first round, Rob Phillips,

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Speaker 1: They could is if they trade something next year. They

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Speaker 1: want to trade head because they can take your entire

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Speaker 1: draft this year and they still can't get into the

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Speaker 1: first round. You know, those pre draft press conferences are

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Speaker 1: they are what they are. You don't learn much from it,

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Speaker 1: but I you do get the sense they love those

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Speaker 1: honest saying it's no fun not having won. No offense

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Speaker 1: to Amari Cooper, they love him, uh, but they value

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Speaker 1: those first rounders. Who would you like to trade the

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Speaker 1: first round four? That's your question. You're not going for

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Speaker 1: a position, You're going for a player you interested. Rickey Williams, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I think I think of And it kind of gets

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Speaker 1: to what Gil Brandt was talking about, and Brian broad

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Speaker 1: Us would probably echo those thoughts. Those those premier players

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Speaker 1: first round grades. Yeah, but I mean the the and

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Speaker 1: got to target a team in the back end. If

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Speaker 1: we're gonna do this, you got to target a team

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Speaker 1: with multiple picks, team that we're probably willing to move.

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Speaker 1: Packers have multiple picks in the back of that round.

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Speaker 1: But what it would given what it would cost, what

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Speaker 1: we just talked about, would it be more likely for

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Speaker 1: five if we want to give up that ninety. That's

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Speaker 1: how we have to think about it right there, which

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Speaker 1: is exactly what they did. In twenty fourteen, they just

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Speaker 1: that is a more realistic trade up. Okay, If I

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Speaker 1: about if you got to twenty four, where would you

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Speaker 1: Really in the second round, Jalen Smith, Bruce Carter go

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Speaker 1: A Boso or Quinnan Williams was right there, right, All right,

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Speaker 1: Let's just say that is just for grants. Let's say

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Speaker 1: to figure out if in fact that he was a

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Speaker 1: we'll give you ninety and it works. I think that

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Speaker 1: and it is defensive tackle. Rich In that fifty eight range,

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Speaker 1: for what, Well, they're just throwing stuff out there. Why

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Speaker 1: here here I read this. Somebody reported that Pittsburgh is

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Speaker 1: of his end, right, Pittsburgh's Pittsburgh. It's very not opposed

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Speaker 1: to anything that's good about that. Yeah, all right, when

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Speaker 1: caught up in what are the needs right now on

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Speaker 1: this team? But I think you have to look ahead,

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Speaker 1: what are the needs a year from now and two

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Speaker 1: that with this Cowboys roster the way it is in

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Speaker 1: the Cowboys contracts, what are the biggest positions of need

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Speaker 1: a year from now, not now, but a year from now. Well,

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Speaker 1: lose Byron Jones a contractually and Anthony Brown. And then

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Speaker 1: the following year you lose two more corners with a

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Speaker 1: Loco you just signed. So that whole second just to

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Speaker 1: of course, they've got a second round pick number fifty

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Speaker 1: sets right now. What's Arizona's picking the top of that

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Speaker 1: on Saturday. I get that first pick on Saturday. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: would you consider that to move up to the top

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Speaker 1: of the fourth Yeah, we said one oh three. We're

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Speaker 1: gonna we're gonna package one twenty eight and one thirty

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Speaker 1: six and go. Do you to have a player you

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Speaker 1: think might be there? Well, I'm thinking that we're gonna

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Speaker 1: sleep on my board after after I'm gonna do some

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Speaker 1: damage at the end of that round. I gotta pick

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Speaker 1: at ninety. I'm gonna do some damage at the end

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Speaker 1: of that round. I'm gonna try and hit him, and

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna come back at him again to start the

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Speaker 1: next day and maybe and maybe because I don't have

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Speaker 1: go up. I wonder I didn't say if there's a player,

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Speaker 1: because usually when you're that, when you sleep on your

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Speaker 1: board that third day, there's somebody there. There's that there's

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Speaker 1: that player that's been you you maybe have a second

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Speaker 1: you really really really like. That makes it makes a

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Speaker 1: lot of sense. Well, it wasn't correct me if I'm wrong.

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Speaker 1: Wasn't Xavier Woods a guy they had kind of pegged

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Speaker 1: in that range and they thought maybe did they think

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Speaker 1: about moving up for him? And he kept falling and

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Speaker 1: he kept falling. J Yeah, Joe Baker sixth round. Joe

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Speaker 1: Baker came in and did a little talk with us.

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Speaker 1: He's one of the coach is nice enough to you know,

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Speaker 1: I guess he wasn't feeling like he wasn't doing anything.

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Speaker 1: we got on him a little bit about mag You

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Speaker 1: gotta go to Xavier Woods. You gotta go get him.

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Speaker 1: That's our guy. A third round, you gotta go get him,

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Speaker 1: you know. And sure enough that worked out. But you know,

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Speaker 1: maybe there's a guy like that, Maybe there's a guy

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Speaker 1: that has a high grade and if you could just

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Speaker 1: parlay those two fourth round picks and try and get

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Speaker 1: you that's a valuable pick right there. I'm sure, I'm

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Speaker 1: sure that Arizona is going to get a lot of

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Speaker 1: offers for that pick. And then, you know, but that's

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Speaker 1: the reason why they were bad and they had the

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Speaker 1: first pick. Or weren't they trying to move up in

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Speaker 1: twenty sixteen to take a quarterback Cowboys? Yeah, yep, begging

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Speaker 1: and where they wound up, of course, taking one and

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Speaker 1: one thirty four, But they were trying to get to

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Speaker 1: the end of the third round, maybe top of the fourth.

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Speaker 1: Was that Connor Cook? Connor Cook from where Connor Cook?

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Speaker 1: Now he's on the street. What Oakland drafted him? Right? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: The AAF just folded. Boy. Yeah, where's Paxton Lynch? He's

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Speaker 1: he's also where I deserved. Yeah, he's made me look

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Speaker 1: bad there too. That's another one of those picks though.

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Speaker 1: You know, these quarterbacks are difficult to evaluate and I

574
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Speaker 1: never get him right. So that means Mickey's guy Locke

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Speaker 1: will probably be a hall head number six to the Giants. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely absolutely. Connor Cook, by the way, is with the

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Speaker 1: Detroit Lions. That's I was looking, Michigan. I was looking.

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Speaker 1: I was looking at up future guy this off season

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Speaker 1: picked up? Didn't they as a backup? Yes? They did?

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Speaker 1: Jacksonville wrong about that sounds right? I hate that I

581
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Speaker 1: don't remember where all my misses go. I should I

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Speaker 1: should remember all those guys go. He is still in

583
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Speaker 1: the league. Yeah am I No? Never mind? But to

584
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Speaker 1: Brian's point, I mean Drew Locke may not be the

585
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Speaker 1: sixth best player in the draft, but especially now that

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Speaker 1: the picks are slotted, they don't cost as much as

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Speaker 1: they used to to pay a quarterback in the first round.

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Speaker 1: I mean teams are more comfortable region for a guy

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Speaker 1: Tyler Murray the first best exactly, because if you nail it,

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Speaker 1: that's the most important position on your team by far.

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Speaker 1: It's worth region. Somebody helped me on periscope, Please where

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Speaker 1: uh my guy is? Paxton Lynch. I guess I could

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Speaker 1: look that up myself, but I want to get people involved. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: let's get help us out. Yeah, help, I mean you

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Speaker 1: can come on, help us out, periscope. I know you're

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Speaker 1: out there listening, So help us out. Um. Yeah, you

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Speaker 1: know they can him. I know where he is, but

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Speaker 1: I'll wait if you want to know, let's go go

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Speaker 1: for it. We hang on. These people, man, they're just

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Speaker 1: care about Packson Lynch. It's not where. I did not

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Speaker 1: remember that he's here. I looked at Jacksonville. It's not there,

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Speaker 1: not Jackson. No, it's not I thought to the opposite

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Speaker 1: extreme of the you got the other way, you got him? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: go ahead, Where is he? Where did you get him?

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Speaker 1: I just are you punched him? Where's it? Bill? Please? Seattle? Seattle? Okay,

607
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Speaker 1: there we go. I know something about quarterbacks up there. Okay, Okay.

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Speaker 1: I want to see the picture. I want to see

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Speaker 1: maybe he can save my ass. I want to see

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Speaker 1: the picture Paxton Lynch alongside Russell Wilson. Yeah, except the

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Speaker 1: picture that came up. He was still in his Denver uniform. Yeah, Seahawks.

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Speaker 1: Yeah like your evaluation of him, Thank you, Damian. Damian

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Speaker 1: Miles came up with that, appreciate that, thank you. It

614
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Speaker 1: is the hardest position to evaluate because I'm an idiot.

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Speaker 1: When you can quarterback, you can look at all the

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Speaker 1: measurables in the world for a quarterma and he had

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Speaker 1: all of them. Yeah, and I'm tall. When Elway took him,

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Speaker 1: I was like going, oh, thank god, because I was

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Speaker 1: thinking that and maybe John Elway does. And then all

620
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Speaker 1: of a sudden, I start hearing, Oh, the Cowboys were

621
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Speaker 1: and now I'm thinking, like, man, the Cowboys are idiots

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Speaker 1: like me. About these quarterbacks. There's so much that goes

624
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Speaker 1: into that position besides dangibles. And Dak Prescott is the

625
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Speaker 1: perfect example because Dak has talent, a lot of talent,

626
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Speaker 1: but he's got other aspects to his game that make

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Speaker 1: him valuable and that's why he's gonna make a lot

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Speaker 1: of money, a lot of money. All Right, who's your

629
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Speaker 1: pet cat in this second and third round? Who in

630
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Speaker 1: this draft? Who's the guy that you like that? Oh?

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Speaker 1: Any of you? Anybody? Day? I got a guy. I've

632
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Speaker 1: got a guy. But I'll let y'all go first. Well

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Speaker 1: it is okay, Well, let me ask you this because

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Speaker 1: My position is what I did. And the guy I

636
00:32:52,080 --> 00:32:55,560
Speaker 1: would absolutely love to have is and I think we

637
00:32:55,680 --> 00:32:58,320
Speaker 1: all maybe I shouldn't say all, but I think fans

638
00:32:58,360 --> 00:33:01,440
Speaker 1: would appreciate the kid right from Washington. I was gonna

639
00:33:01,480 --> 00:33:05,080
Speaker 1: say that's the one. Well, and then another guy I

640
00:33:05,160 --> 00:33:08,120
Speaker 1: really love is the Joe Wan Williams from Vanderbilt, the

641
00:33:08,440 --> 00:33:11,080
Speaker 1: big tall corner from Vanderbilt, because he's like, he's like

642
00:33:11,120 --> 00:33:14,040
Speaker 1: a prototype for Christopher Shard. He's perfect for Christoph Schard

643
00:33:14,200 --> 00:33:16,200
Speaker 1: is what he is. So you know, I kind of

644
00:33:16,200 --> 00:33:18,400
Speaker 1: look at him. I kind of look at you know, uh,

645
00:33:19,000 --> 00:33:22,400
Speaker 1: I look at call your the defensive end from from

646
00:33:22,800 --> 00:33:27,080
Speaker 1: from from TCU. I love the Williams kid from Texas

647
00:33:27,160 --> 00:33:29,280
Speaker 1: A and m the running back. That's my pet cat.

648
00:33:29,360 --> 00:33:31,320
Speaker 1: And there you go. I'm a little biased, but I

649
00:33:31,400 --> 00:33:34,080
Speaker 1: mean I think he's a guy beyond Williams. Yeah, you

650
00:33:34,160 --> 00:33:35,680
Speaker 1: look at him and he say, maybe it can't be

651
00:33:35,720 --> 00:33:38,000
Speaker 1: a full time back, but he's gonna help your football team.

652
00:33:38,560 --> 00:33:40,680
Speaker 1: And he's a he could be a change of pace.

653
00:33:40,800 --> 00:33:43,680
Speaker 1: He can he can step in, he can pretty much

654
00:33:43,720 --> 00:33:45,440
Speaker 1: do anything you ask him to do. Back there, I

655
00:33:45,520 --> 00:33:48,560
Speaker 1: think the Warring kid that's tied end from San Diego

656
00:33:48,720 --> 00:33:51,640
Speaker 1: State would be an interesting guy. Guy's a water polo goalie.

657
00:33:51,720 --> 00:33:54,240
Speaker 1: I mean, I here, we do all kinds of the

658
00:33:54,280 --> 00:33:56,640
Speaker 1: crazy things here at the Cowboys with tight ends. You

659
00:33:56,680 --> 00:33:58,680
Speaker 1: could be like, you know, have all kinds of crazy

660
00:33:58,760 --> 00:34:01,680
Speaker 1: things and they'll draft you. But yeah, this Warring kid

661
00:34:02,160 --> 00:34:05,080
Speaker 1: him Nada. I know, Nada doesn't run very fast. But

662
00:34:05,120 --> 00:34:07,200
Speaker 1: I think somebody's gonna get a really basic play tightening

663
00:34:07,320 --> 00:34:09,040
Speaker 1: from Georgia. I kind of a guy I really like.

664
00:34:09,760 --> 00:34:12,759
Speaker 1: All right, my pet cat? Is this the guy you

665
00:34:12,840 --> 00:34:14,759
Speaker 1: agree with me on? Bill? I agree with you because

666
00:34:14,800 --> 00:34:18,360
Speaker 1: you've got him ranked in your top one hundred, and

667
00:34:18,840 --> 00:34:22,120
Speaker 1: so does gil Brand and you want a top one

668
00:34:22,200 --> 00:34:24,680
Speaker 1: hund Yeah he had, he had a top one fifty.

669
00:34:24,840 --> 00:34:27,279
Speaker 1: Oh good for him, Good for him. Did you see

670
00:34:27,320 --> 00:34:31,800
Speaker 1: that he came out last week sometime and so pariscope

671
00:34:31,800 --> 00:34:34,040
Speaker 1: slightened us up. They say they want love for Savage,

672
00:34:34,120 --> 00:34:37,360
Speaker 1: the kid from Maryland, Dontrell Savage. Yeah, they want they

673
00:34:37,400 --> 00:34:40,560
Speaker 1: want to they want to range long safety guy. It's

674
00:34:40,600 --> 00:34:43,520
Speaker 1: what they want. Okay, got one. The guy that I

675
00:34:43,880 --> 00:34:47,080
Speaker 1: like who, I mean, he's a sleeper guy. If you

676
00:34:47,160 --> 00:34:49,600
Speaker 1: look at a sleeper. Well you said pet cat. You

677
00:34:49,640 --> 00:34:53,120
Speaker 1: didn't say, well, he's my pet cat. Okay, love him? Yeah,

678
00:34:53,160 --> 00:34:55,839
Speaker 1: I would take him in the second round myself. Okay, kay.

679
00:34:56,600 --> 00:35:01,080
Speaker 1: Jalen heard wide receiver Baylor. Oh I love of that guy. Okay?

680
00:35:01,200 --> 00:35:04,000
Speaker 1: Is this another guy that lit up Oklahoma? No? Well, now,

681
00:35:04,120 --> 00:35:08,360
Speaker 1: I mean he was all Baylor had basically. Okay, but

682
00:35:08,440 --> 00:35:10,520
Speaker 1: if you don't aren't familiar with his story, he was

683
00:35:10,600 --> 00:35:14,399
Speaker 1: a top recruit running back recruit out of Tennessee, went

684
00:35:14,440 --> 00:35:17,839
Speaker 1: to University of Tennessee, started at running back and Brian

685
00:35:17,880 --> 00:35:20,880
Speaker 1: you know all this stuff, started at running back, ran

686
00:35:20,960 --> 00:35:23,560
Speaker 1: for thirteen hundred yards one year, started ahead of Alvin

687
00:35:23,640 --> 00:35:27,080
Speaker 1: Kamara at Tennessee at running back. Yes, and then made

688
00:35:27,120 --> 00:35:30,160
Speaker 1: the decision himself. I think after a couple of concussions

689
00:35:30,239 --> 00:35:33,759
Speaker 1: as a running back at Tennessee that he felt like

690
00:35:34,040 --> 00:35:36,880
Speaker 1: in the NFL he would have a longer life and

691
00:35:37,000 --> 00:35:39,600
Speaker 1: maybe a longer life in general if he did not

692
00:35:39,760 --> 00:35:42,960
Speaker 1: play running back anymore. And he was a two hundred

693
00:35:42,960 --> 00:35:47,239
Speaker 1: and forty pound running back at Tennessee and he made

694
00:35:47,280 --> 00:35:51,359
Speaker 1: the change to wide receiver and he didn't went into

695
00:35:51,520 --> 00:35:54,439
Speaker 1: what was then there's now a transfer portal there wasn't

696
00:35:54,440 --> 00:35:57,800
Speaker 1: a transfer portal then, but he transferred from Tennessee and

697
00:35:58,120 --> 00:36:01,239
Speaker 1: he winds up at Baylor did Baylor and just liked

698
00:36:01,280 --> 00:36:04,719
Speaker 1: the whole atmosphere there, and he played the slot and

699
00:36:04,760 --> 00:36:07,600
Speaker 1: he also played some running back at Baylor this past year.

700
00:36:08,160 --> 00:36:10,879
Speaker 1: And I just love this guy. They brought him in late.

701
00:36:11,160 --> 00:36:13,680
Speaker 1: He was one of the last visits they had, and

702
00:36:14,040 --> 00:36:15,880
Speaker 1: you know, he was kind of I think there were

703
00:36:15,920 --> 00:36:18,600
Speaker 1: a lot of teams out there that were running him

704
00:36:18,640 --> 00:36:20,840
Speaker 1: in to kind of get an idea about him. You know,

705
00:36:21,000 --> 00:36:24,560
Speaker 1: he had a knee problem and so his scope his

706
00:36:24,840 --> 00:36:28,279
Speaker 1: forty time wasn't as good. I mean going into going

707
00:36:28,320 --> 00:36:31,760
Speaker 1: into the fall, everybody had about a four four speed

708
00:36:31,880 --> 00:36:35,280
Speaker 1: on him that was numbers four four with a forty

709
00:36:35,400 --> 00:36:38,040
Speaker 1: vertical and a three eighty five exactly. And then but

710
00:36:38,200 --> 00:36:40,200
Speaker 1: he but then he turned around and he ran like

711
00:36:40,280 --> 00:36:42,959
Speaker 1: four to sixty three and the forty and some people

712
00:36:43,080 --> 00:36:45,440
Speaker 1: kind of fell off him a little bit. But you know,

713
00:36:45,880 --> 00:36:48,239
Speaker 1: this guy, You're you're not wrong about this guy. Bill,

714
00:36:48,840 --> 00:36:51,040
Speaker 1: you know talk about he didn't want to get you know,

715
00:36:51,360 --> 00:36:54,239
Speaker 1: concussions and stuff like this. This guy run routes underneath though.

716
00:36:54,440 --> 00:36:57,719
Speaker 1: He will take a ton of routes underneath, and uh,

717
00:36:57,760 --> 00:36:59,959
Speaker 1: you know when you get the hands, the hands gonna

718
00:37:00,120 --> 00:37:03,120
Speaker 1: the ball, he can make plays. I mean for a

719
00:37:03,239 --> 00:37:07,240
Speaker 1: real tall, long guy, he makes some really nice moves

720
00:37:07,360 --> 00:37:09,840
Speaker 1: in space. You know, you've kind of feel like that,

721
00:37:09,960 --> 00:37:13,920
Speaker 1: tall lanky guys have trouble turning and breaking and cutting

722
00:37:14,040 --> 00:37:16,880
Speaker 1: and this kid does not have any of those problems

723
00:37:16,920 --> 00:37:18,799
Speaker 1: at all. So six six four and a half, two

724
00:37:18,960 --> 00:37:23,840
Speaker 1: twenty eight to ten inch hands and his number, he

725
00:37:23,880 --> 00:37:27,000
Speaker 1: had sixty nine catches, average fourteen yards of catch whatever.

726
00:37:27,160 --> 00:37:29,359
Speaker 1: I'll carry the ball forty eight times for over two

727
00:37:29,440 --> 00:37:31,680
Speaker 1: hundred yards and three touchdowns for Baylor this year. But

728
00:37:32,200 --> 00:37:37,399
Speaker 1: but he I'm telling Matt Rule, the Baylor head coach

729
00:37:37,440 --> 00:37:39,480
Speaker 1: who almost got a head coaching job in the NFL

730
00:37:39,600 --> 00:37:43,279
Speaker 1: this offseason. Sure he quote from him, He'll play a

731
00:37:43,400 --> 00:37:45,960
Speaker 1: long time in the NFL as a wide receiver. He

732
00:37:46,040 --> 00:37:48,560
Speaker 1: will be an elitewide receiver. I've got a good friend

733
00:37:48,600 --> 00:37:50,560
Speaker 1: who's on the coaching staff down there, and he said

734
00:37:50,600 --> 00:37:53,520
Speaker 1: he's never been around a kid who practices harder than

735
00:37:53,560 --> 00:37:57,880
Speaker 1: this kid does. And another coach down there said, literally,

736
00:37:58,239 --> 00:38:00,640
Speaker 1: this might be the most talented player I've ever seen. Oh,

737
00:38:00,840 --> 00:38:04,040
Speaker 1: kN Garrison, some Yeoman's work here. He's got Tennessee highlights

738
00:38:04,120 --> 00:38:06,319
Speaker 1: in him running the ball on point. So if you're

739
00:38:06,320 --> 00:38:08,680
Speaker 1: watching along with us, he's got Baylor highlights and he's

740
00:38:08,719 --> 00:38:11,240
Speaker 1: throwing Tennessee highlights at you. A great job, Kient Garrison

741
00:38:11,360 --> 00:38:14,440
Speaker 1: giving this. This is what I love about preparing for

742
00:38:14,520 --> 00:38:16,640
Speaker 1: the draft. I dig in And that's why I have

743
00:38:16,760 --> 00:38:19,360
Speaker 1: this green notebook. Is I dig into, pl to it

744
00:38:19,480 --> 00:38:22,480
Speaker 1: and try to find players like that. Sure, I have

745
00:38:22,600 --> 00:38:24,680
Speaker 1: no idea if this guy's gonna he may be a

746
00:38:24,760 --> 00:38:27,920
Speaker 1: bust in the NFL, whatever, but I just enjoy finding

747
00:38:28,000 --> 00:38:30,840
Speaker 1: players like that, and I think I think he's got

748
00:38:30,920 --> 00:38:32,839
Speaker 1: a good shot at making it for a long time

749
00:38:32,880 --> 00:38:35,840
Speaker 1: in the league. Third round, I like, I say I

750
00:38:35,880 --> 00:38:37,960
Speaker 1: would take him at number fifty eight. I'm not you

751
00:38:38,040 --> 00:38:40,520
Speaker 1: got him at number seventy five. I think on your list,

752
00:38:40,920 --> 00:38:44,560
Speaker 1: Gil had him at eighty nine, and I think, um, Jamie,

753
00:38:45,680 --> 00:38:48,800
Speaker 1: I think I think he may maybe it may be

754
00:38:48,880 --> 00:38:50,680
Speaker 1: hard press, but that he'll be there at ninety. I've

755
00:38:50,719 --> 00:38:53,480
Speaker 1: got him as he is my let me count these

756
00:38:53,560 --> 00:38:56,120
Speaker 1: guys that would be five six. He's my seventh best

757
00:38:56,200 --> 00:38:59,400
Speaker 1: receiver in the in the draft, is what he is.

758
00:39:00,080 --> 00:39:02,200
Speaker 1: So take it back and he's my eighth best receiver

759
00:39:02,320 --> 00:39:04,320
Speaker 1: in this draft. So yeah, I've got him at the

760
00:39:04,360 --> 00:39:06,359
Speaker 1: top of the third round. So that's where I would

761
00:39:06,440 --> 00:39:09,919
Speaker 1: I got him behind Ridley from Georgia is who I've got.

762
00:39:10,040 --> 00:39:14,200
Speaker 1: So we'll see and you know, in his position flexibility. Okay,

763
00:39:14,360 --> 00:39:16,680
Speaker 1: how would he fit on the Cowboys? Okay, yeah, obviously

764
00:39:16,760 --> 00:39:18,960
Speaker 1: you got Randall Cobb in the slot. He was a

765
00:39:19,160 --> 00:39:21,239
Speaker 1: former running back at Kentucky. There you go, and he

766
00:39:21,400 --> 00:39:23,080
Speaker 1: was another one of my pet casts when he gave

767
00:39:23,560 --> 00:39:27,359
Speaker 1: for sort of the same reasons he could play as

768
00:39:27,440 --> 00:39:30,040
Speaker 1: a you know, he as a rookie this year. Well

769
00:39:30,040 --> 00:39:31,880
Speaker 1: we we've already talked about where the Cowboys are at

770
00:39:31,920 --> 00:39:34,520
Speaker 1: wide receiver a year from now, right, but he would

771
00:39:34,560 --> 00:39:37,480
Speaker 1: have a role immediately on this team either as a

772
00:39:37,560 --> 00:39:42,160
Speaker 1: slot as a third down back in the backfield. I'm

773
00:39:42,600 --> 00:39:45,120
Speaker 1: they need a back, right, need a backtrack back. And

774
00:39:45,200 --> 00:39:46,840
Speaker 1: people talk about, you know, you got to have a

775
00:39:46,960 --> 00:39:49,520
Speaker 1: running back, right, they need a running back to backup Zeke,

776
00:39:49,640 --> 00:39:52,680
Speaker 1: And that's true. But Zeke has not shown knock on

777
00:39:52,760 --> 00:39:56,680
Speaker 1: wood injury history. You know Randall Cobb has, so maybe

778
00:39:56,800 --> 00:39:58,959
Speaker 1: you know, maybe wide receiver. You look at that and say, okay,

779
00:39:59,040 --> 00:40:01,040
Speaker 1: maybe we do need some deb just in case, I

780
00:40:01,160 --> 00:40:03,759
Speaker 1: just got my my charts of all the teams and

781
00:40:03,840 --> 00:40:07,800
Speaker 1: stuff and from the college visits. Philadelphia has two picks

782
00:40:07,840 --> 00:40:10,600
Speaker 1: ahead of you in the second round, if I'm not mistaken.

783
00:40:10,719 --> 00:40:12,400
Speaker 1: I don't know how many they have in the third.

784
00:40:13,120 --> 00:40:16,680
Speaker 1: But they Philadelphia visited this kid. They visited a J. Brown,

785
00:40:16,920 --> 00:40:23,680
Speaker 1: Paris Campbell, Kennil Harry, and then also Jalen Heard and

786
00:40:23,840 --> 00:40:26,719
Speaker 1: then so they they're there. They ran in some receivers

787
00:40:26,760 --> 00:40:29,040
Speaker 1: there as well. Looked at him to yeah, let me

788
00:40:29,120 --> 00:40:31,080
Speaker 1: check that he might have been a visit with them

789
00:40:31,120 --> 00:40:33,080
Speaker 1: as well, like you talked about, So this kid. A

790
00:40:33,120 --> 00:40:34,960
Speaker 1: matter of fact, I just flipped to Tampa Bay. He

791
00:40:35,600 --> 00:40:39,520
Speaker 1: visited Tampa too, as or as as well. So and

792
00:40:39,680 --> 00:40:42,640
Speaker 1: he also visited the Tennessee Titans as well. I'm just

793
00:40:42,719 --> 00:40:45,400
Speaker 1: flipping through these teams right now. Let's see if you

794
00:40:45,520 --> 00:40:50,440
Speaker 1: visit the Washington Redskins. Uh No, No, visited the Redskins.

795
00:40:50,520 --> 00:40:53,480
Speaker 1: So anyway, Yeah, there's there's several teams that are very

796
00:40:53,600 --> 00:40:57,520
Speaker 1: very interested in this players. No, there's no question of that. Anyway.

797
00:40:57,680 --> 00:41:00,000
Speaker 1: That's my guy, that's your guy. I think it's strapped

798
00:41:00,040 --> 00:41:01,759
Speaker 1: to build. Feel free to patch yourself on the back

799
00:41:02,680 --> 00:41:06,000
Speaker 1: if he gets drapped in he will you'll get drafted.

800
00:41:06,040 --> 00:41:08,319
Speaker 1: I mean, like I say, I just I named off

801
00:41:09,400 --> 00:41:12,480
Speaker 1: New York Jets. I could just go through all these teams. Uh,

802
00:41:12,640 --> 00:41:15,759
Speaker 1: let's see if he visited the Giants. No, he didn't

803
00:41:15,800 --> 00:41:18,000
Speaker 1: visit the Giants. And again I could spend all day

804
00:41:18,120 --> 00:41:21,200
Speaker 1: doing this and uh, you know, I just name like

805
00:41:21,680 --> 00:41:24,480
Speaker 1: four teams right there that he's already five teams he's

806
00:41:24,480 --> 00:41:27,640
Speaker 1: already visited. So at Minnesota Vikings add that to this

807
00:41:27,800 --> 00:41:30,200
Speaker 1: guy was the wonder. He came to the Cowboys so late.

808
00:41:31,000 --> 00:41:33,400
Speaker 1: He was traveling all over the country. He's got a

809
00:41:33,440 --> 00:41:37,040
Speaker 1: free ticket on American airlines. Now, all traveling he was doing.

810
00:41:37,160 --> 00:41:41,759
Speaker 1: And you catch him at the Admiral's Club. Yeah, you

811
00:41:41,840 --> 00:41:43,759
Speaker 1: go interview him at the Admiral's Club. And if you

812
00:41:43,880 --> 00:41:48,680
Speaker 1: do a search on him, different mock well not mock drafts,

813
00:41:48,719 --> 00:41:52,600
Speaker 1: but draft lists that that aren't up to speed, he's

814
00:41:52,640 --> 00:41:56,480
Speaker 1: listed as a seventh round prospect. Wow. Oh yeah, that's

815
00:41:56,560 --> 00:41:58,799
Speaker 1: the problem. I can change between December and April. Right,

816
00:41:58,840 --> 00:42:02,000
Speaker 1: it's exactly right. When people start studying these players, the

817
00:42:02,239 --> 00:42:04,880
Speaker 1: teams already know about these players, but when once we

818
00:42:05,000 --> 00:42:07,760
Speaker 1: start studying them, then they rise well, they team's already

819
00:42:07,800 --> 00:42:09,719
Speaker 1: had them up there anyway. All right, we continue with

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00:42:09,840 --> 00:42:13,360
Speaker 1: more talking Cowboys in just a moment. While the player

821
00:42:13,440 --> 00:42:15,800
Speaker 1: could look good on paper, it's one he's out on

822
00:42:15,880 --> 00:42:18,239
Speaker 1: the field that you really find out what he's made of.

823
00:42:18,880 --> 00:42:21,640
Speaker 1: That's why the Cowboys rely on more than just stats

824
00:42:21,719 --> 00:42:25,640
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825
00:42:25,920 --> 00:42:28,200
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826
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00:45:52,600 --> 00:45:55,960
Speaker 1: to entertain your draft questions or any other questions you

885
00:45:56,080 --> 00:45:58,759
Speaker 1: have about this Cowboys team, which is out on that

886
00:45:59,000 --> 00:46:04,439
Speaker 1: practice field as the official offseason workouts began last week,

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00:46:04,840 --> 00:46:07,600
Speaker 1: and it looks like there's very good attendance out there.

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00:46:07,800 --> 00:46:11,239
Speaker 1: There is because they're all on one field. Yeah. Yeah,

889
00:46:11,760 --> 00:46:15,239
Speaker 1: they're all crowded together. Now. Things under construction here at

890
00:46:15,280 --> 00:46:18,200
Speaker 1: the start. We know enough about the draft to say

891
00:46:18,280 --> 00:46:21,760
Speaker 1: on periscope they're asking, and this is from our buddy Smith.

892
00:46:22,400 --> 00:46:24,680
Speaker 1: He wants to is there somebody the fourth that could

893
00:46:24,719 --> 00:46:26,960
Speaker 1: be a steel Bill? You've kind of looked at this.

894
00:46:27,160 --> 00:46:30,360
Speaker 1: Is there somebody you like we would talk about heard?

895
00:46:31,320 --> 00:46:33,600
Speaker 1: Is there something that in those fourth round those two

896
00:46:34,200 --> 00:46:37,080
Speaker 1: two picks? Is there? How about that? Is there a position?

897
00:46:37,480 --> 00:46:39,759
Speaker 1: Is there a position you guys are looking at and

898
00:46:40,360 --> 00:46:42,640
Speaker 1: you kind of have earmarked. See I want those two

899
00:46:42,719 --> 00:46:46,359
Speaker 1: picks right there. I wonder at safety, you know, because

900
00:46:46,760 --> 00:46:50,440
Speaker 1: as it changed at the safety position, say Earth Day

901
00:46:50,480 --> 00:46:54,799
Speaker 1: was yesterday. Yeah, thanks, folks, appreciate you, Brian. Have things

902
00:46:55,000 --> 00:46:58,200
Speaker 1: changed as far as the safety position is concerned in

903
00:46:58,360 --> 00:47:01,000
Speaker 1: recent years in the last couple of drafts where they

904
00:47:01,040 --> 00:47:04,680
Speaker 1: take safeties earlier. There is at one point where safeties

905
00:47:05,000 --> 00:47:07,719
Speaker 1: you could find safeties in the mid rounds because there

906
00:47:07,719 --> 00:47:11,239
Speaker 1: wouldn't be corners would go earlier. But because of the

907
00:47:11,360 --> 00:47:14,440
Speaker 1: way things have changed in the league now there's more

908
00:47:14,520 --> 00:47:17,239
Speaker 1: of a premium on safeties because there's a bunch of

909
00:47:17,360 --> 00:47:21,239
Speaker 1: safeties that in fact, you've got how many of your

910
00:47:21,360 --> 00:47:26,439
Speaker 1: safety you've got one, two, three, four or five, six, seven,

911
00:47:26,560 --> 00:47:30,359
Speaker 1: eight safeties in your top one hundred right there? Yeah? Okay, Yeah,

912
00:47:30,560 --> 00:47:34,200
Speaker 1: So if there's not that run on safeties in the

913
00:47:34,320 --> 00:47:38,120
Speaker 1: third round, second and third round that we anticipate, maybe

914
00:47:38,160 --> 00:47:40,320
Speaker 1: safety is a position that could be there in the

915
00:47:40,360 --> 00:47:42,960
Speaker 1: fourth round, could be one of those that you want

916
00:47:42,960 --> 00:47:47,160
Speaker 1: to trade up for at the beginning of the fourth round. Yeah, exactly.

917
00:47:48,040 --> 00:47:50,840
Speaker 1: We're looking at safety because we feel like it's the

918
00:47:50,880 --> 00:47:54,200
Speaker 1: most unstable position. Well as far as the level of

919
00:47:54,480 --> 00:47:56,879
Speaker 1: players there. I think there's an opportunity. Is that why

920
00:47:56,920 --> 00:47:59,440
Speaker 1: we keep talking about safeties. There's an opportunity at safety.

921
00:47:59,520 --> 00:48:02,360
Speaker 1: I think for a guy to come in and compete

922
00:48:02,440 --> 00:48:05,240
Speaker 1: for snaps, it's possible. I don't I don't think signing

923
00:48:05,280 --> 00:48:08,799
Speaker 1: you LOCA precludes a guy from coming in and doing that. Right,

924
00:48:09,320 --> 00:48:11,160
Speaker 1: and at least you know, Jeff Heath is probably to

925
00:48:11,280 --> 00:48:13,799
Speaker 1: me still you're starting strong safety. But it doesn't mean

926
00:48:13,840 --> 00:48:16,759
Speaker 1: you know, they've proven they will make a rotation at

927
00:48:16,800 --> 00:48:20,719
Speaker 1: safety if a guy earned snaps. So it's hard looking

928
00:48:20,719 --> 00:48:22,640
Speaker 1: at the roster and saying then this guy could be

929
00:48:22,680 --> 00:48:25,560
Speaker 1: a starter even at fifty eight. But safety is one spot,

930
00:48:25,640 --> 00:48:28,959
Speaker 1: and we talked about it earlier. There's it's wide open

931
00:48:29,000 --> 00:48:31,719
Speaker 1: a year from now unless they bring all these guys back.

932
00:48:32,000 --> 00:48:34,440
Speaker 1: So so you think they're taking their taking a look

933
00:48:34,480 --> 00:48:36,239
Speaker 1: at their board and they're saying, well, they maybe they

934
00:48:36,280 --> 00:48:39,720
Speaker 1: don't have eight. I mean I have six, eight, eight, Okay,

935
00:48:40,200 --> 00:48:43,080
Speaker 1: if maybe they have five, Yeah, maybe they have five

936
00:48:43,160 --> 00:48:45,560
Speaker 1: safeties in their top one hundred and you have seven

937
00:48:45,680 --> 00:48:48,319
Speaker 1: corners in your top one. See that's what I'm saying.

938
00:48:48,400 --> 00:48:50,320
Speaker 1: Maybe they're looking at this and saying, you know what

939
00:48:50,560 --> 00:48:52,360
Speaker 1: this might be a good time for us to grab it.

940
00:48:52,520 --> 00:48:54,560
Speaker 1: Oh wait, I take that back. I screwed R one

941
00:48:55,000 --> 00:48:59,680
Speaker 1: three four. You have more corners in that one eleven

942
00:48:59,760 --> 00:49:02,440
Speaker 1: night gill say? Did gill say it's the deepest safety

943
00:49:02,600 --> 00:49:05,239
Speaker 1: class he's ever seen? Something like that? Does that mean

944
00:49:05,320 --> 00:49:07,719
Speaker 1: you don't have to take one in the second? Maybe not.

945
00:49:08,120 --> 00:49:10,600
Speaker 1: That's kind of my point, maybe that it may be

946
00:49:10,719 --> 00:49:12,640
Speaker 1: the strength of it may fall into the fourth. Then

947
00:49:12,760 --> 00:49:14,640
Speaker 1: if you were looking for a pet cat. One guy

948
00:49:14,719 --> 00:49:19,920
Speaker 1: that I like is Up Hooker from Iowa, Right, Amani

949
00:49:20,000 --> 00:49:24,040
Speaker 1: Cooper Hoop Cooper Hooker, because he's a guy that he

950
00:49:25,080 --> 00:49:27,320
Speaker 1: If you like Xavier Woods as your deep safety, this

951
00:49:27,400 --> 00:49:29,719
Speaker 1: is a guy that he can play in the box.

952
00:49:29,800 --> 00:49:32,920
Speaker 1: He's a sure tackler, he's made some plays. I think

953
00:49:32,960 --> 00:49:34,840
Speaker 1: he had four picks last year. So this is a

954
00:49:34,920 --> 00:49:38,120
Speaker 1: guy that kind of fits a positional need for you, um,

955
00:49:38,440 --> 00:49:43,399
Speaker 1: but also might be interchangeable, which is what this guy. Yeah,

956
00:49:43,480 --> 00:49:45,440
Speaker 1: and that's the thing in rob And you're absolutely right

957
00:49:45,480 --> 00:49:49,160
Speaker 1: about the description of the player, absolutely right about him.

958
00:49:49,200 --> 00:49:51,200
Speaker 1: And he's a and he's a guy that is probably

959
00:49:51,200 --> 00:49:54,160
Speaker 1: beyond the fifty eight range. He may be a ninety guy. Yeah, right,

960
00:49:54,239 --> 00:49:56,279
Speaker 1: If you're like Bill saying, if it drops out a

961
00:49:56,320 --> 00:49:58,560
Speaker 1: little bit. Yeah, I had him outside, I had him

962
00:49:58,560 --> 00:50:01,759
Speaker 1: in the fourth, but fourth, that's kind of where, you know,

963
00:50:01,840 --> 00:50:03,880
Speaker 1: I mean, this guy has got some ability. Mean you

964
00:50:03,920 --> 00:50:06,839
Speaker 1: would when you watch him play. He's a physical guy.

965
00:50:07,280 --> 00:50:09,400
Speaker 1: And I think that's the you know, if they if

966
00:50:09,440 --> 00:50:12,320
Speaker 1: they're looking at at play in woods as that single

967
00:50:12,440 --> 00:50:15,040
Speaker 1: high guy and having somebody that can stand next to

968
00:50:15,880 --> 00:50:19,560
Speaker 1: uh Smith and vander esh and and hold his own

969
00:50:19,640 --> 00:50:23,480
Speaker 1: down there low. Yeah, this Maury Hooker is not a

970
00:50:23,640 --> 00:50:27,719
Speaker 1: bad guy. Even could consider there for sure, say say

971
00:50:27,800 --> 00:50:31,440
Speaker 1: Money Hooker and Mary Cooper together back to back five times? Yeah,

972
00:50:31,719 --> 00:50:33,839
Speaker 1: I tried. Do you think somebody, I mean, okay, asking

973
00:50:33,920 --> 00:50:35,760
Speaker 1: on a pariscope, you think they would dress the offensive

974
00:50:35,800 --> 00:50:38,040
Speaker 1: line there? We got a lot of people writing in

975
00:50:38,120 --> 00:50:40,919
Speaker 1: on our mail bag wanting that you know, at which

976
00:50:41,040 --> 00:50:47,080
Speaker 1: at fort well, just somewhere fourth. Yeah, they need an

977
00:50:47,120 --> 00:50:52,600
Speaker 1: offensive alignment? Yeah, which anybody that can groom them? Yeah, well,

978
00:50:53,880 --> 00:50:56,080
Speaker 1: no one's coming out of the woodwork on this team.

979
00:50:56,200 --> 00:50:58,960
Speaker 1: I wonder what they really think of Redmond And I

980
00:50:59,040 --> 00:51:01,320
Speaker 1: threw the name out there. They used him. He played

981
00:51:01,360 --> 00:51:04,080
Speaker 1: some games, I mean, let's did okay, Yeah, I mean

982
00:51:04,200 --> 00:51:05,759
Speaker 1: that's what I'm saying, maybe, you know, with the two

983
00:51:05,840 --> 00:51:08,279
Speaker 1: year deal too, with Fleming, maybe they think Fleming could

984
00:51:08,320 --> 00:51:11,920
Speaker 1: be I'm I'm with you guys on you know, I'm

985
00:51:11,960 --> 00:51:13,840
Speaker 1: with you on the offensive lineman part. I think a

986
00:51:13,880 --> 00:51:16,359
Speaker 1: lot of people see running back as being everybody wants

987
00:51:16,440 --> 00:51:22,359
Speaker 1: Bryce Love. Stanford Kicks could get a steal potentially, yeah yeah, maybe, yeah, yeah,

988
00:51:22,520 --> 00:51:25,000
Speaker 1: but that's you know, Bryce Love might be a guy

989
00:51:25,080 --> 00:51:27,160
Speaker 1: that starts on pup and then next thing you know,

990
00:51:28,239 --> 00:51:30,400
Speaker 1: he's you know, he's one of your guys. And you know,

991
00:51:31,040 --> 00:51:34,240
Speaker 1: for the for the two thousand yard rusher in college

992
00:51:34,320 --> 00:51:36,600
Speaker 1: that is probably gonna get drafted below his talent level.

993
00:51:36,680 --> 00:51:39,880
Speaker 1: So yeah, all those same lines. I love Rodney Anderson.

994
00:51:40,000 --> 00:51:42,080
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't love all the OU players. That's

995
00:51:42,120 --> 00:51:44,400
Speaker 1: one that I do love. I guess okay, but the

996
00:51:44,480 --> 00:51:49,600
Speaker 1: problem with him Bill the injuries, neck, broken leg, knee.

997
00:51:50,000 --> 00:51:53,400
Speaker 1: I you know, my backup guy cannot be a train wreck, right,

998
00:51:53,640 --> 00:51:58,240
Speaker 1: my backup guy. But he doesn't. I'm talking deep, He runs,

999
00:51:58,680 --> 00:52:02,600
Speaker 1: he catches, and he blocks. There's no but if he's

1000
00:52:02,640 --> 00:52:06,160
Speaker 1: got when you start talking neck and running back, I

1001
00:52:06,320 --> 00:52:10,080
Speaker 1: just cringe. I turtle, man, I kind of what about

1002
00:52:10,160 --> 00:52:16,800
Speaker 1: the wide receiver from Clemson. Yes, Hunter, renfromer walk On

1003
00:52:18,320 --> 00:52:22,439
Speaker 1: like him. I saw him play, I saw him make plays. Yeah,

1004
00:52:22,920 --> 00:52:24,760
Speaker 1: there's a couple of those guys in this draft, Mickey

1005
00:52:24,800 --> 00:52:28,120
Speaker 1: that are like that renfro, Andy Is Sabella. You know,

1006
00:52:28,320 --> 00:52:31,640
Speaker 1: there's they kind of if you're gonna, if you're gonna,

1007
00:52:31,680 --> 00:52:34,520
Speaker 1: maybe if I have to have a slot player, I'll

1008
00:52:34,560 --> 00:52:36,839
Speaker 1: just take that guy we just talked about. I'll talk

1009
00:52:36,840 --> 00:52:39,239
Speaker 1: about her. Yeah, Yeah, give me that guy. Give me

1010
00:52:39,280 --> 00:52:43,680
Speaker 1: somebody with some length. Fourth though, Yeah, it doesn't have

1011
00:52:43,760 --> 00:52:47,000
Speaker 1: to be a Cole Beasley clone. No kind of receivers

1012
00:52:47,080 --> 00:52:48,759
Speaker 1: you can put in the slot. They all don't have

1013
00:52:48,840 --> 00:52:53,120
Speaker 1: to bet. Let me ask you this though, running back

1014
00:52:53,239 --> 00:52:55,200
Speaker 1: or wide receiver. If you had to take an offensive

1015
00:52:55,200 --> 00:52:58,680
Speaker 1: player at say, at ninety at ninety, would you take

1016
00:52:58,680 --> 00:53:01,560
Speaker 1: an offensive tackler or guard at ninety. I love Trevion,

1017
00:53:01,680 --> 00:53:03,400
Speaker 1: but you'd have to get him at ninety, you know.

1018
00:53:03,680 --> 00:53:06,160
Speaker 1: And my whole deal is who's the player? I mean,

1019
00:53:06,280 --> 00:53:09,640
Speaker 1: I think that they've got enough needs across the board

1020
00:53:09,760 --> 00:53:13,319
Speaker 1: that I'm looking more at player than I am positioned um.

1021
00:53:13,600 --> 00:53:15,640
Speaker 1: And so if you give me two players, then I'll

1022
00:53:15,680 --> 00:53:18,040
Speaker 1: tell you, like, if I've got a choice of Jalen

1023
00:53:18,200 --> 00:53:22,920
Speaker 1: Hurd or throw me a running back. Trevion Williams. Trevion Williams,

1024
00:53:22,920 --> 00:53:26,120
Speaker 1: I'm taking Jalen Hurd myself. Yeah, because he's like your

1025
00:53:26,160 --> 00:53:30,360
Speaker 1: favorite guy right right, well, and I mean that that

1026
00:53:30,560 --> 00:53:32,560
Speaker 1: player could fill more of a need a year from

1027
00:53:32,640 --> 00:53:36,399
Speaker 1: now than a backup running back. I'm sorry, like they

1028
00:53:36,480 --> 00:53:39,799
Speaker 1: need to address the depth there, but Ezekiel Elliott, I mean,

1029
00:53:39,920 --> 00:53:42,920
Speaker 1: knock on wood, he's he's playing ninety percent of the snaps.

1030
00:53:43,000 --> 00:53:44,879
Speaker 1: Usually it might be a little less than that this year,

1031
00:53:45,360 --> 00:53:47,840
Speaker 1: but he's a durable back. How much is as a

1032
00:53:47,880 --> 00:53:50,600
Speaker 1: backup running back really gonna play? And the other thing

1033
00:53:51,320 --> 00:53:54,120
Speaker 1: is if they're heaven forbid an injury to Zeke, then

1034
00:53:54,239 --> 00:53:56,240
Speaker 1: what do you got it? Right? I agree, I agree

1035
00:53:56,400 --> 00:53:59,839
Speaker 1: this might be unfair. Then okay, say you went her

1036
00:54:01,560 --> 00:54:05,400
Speaker 1: stern Burger the tight end from a and m Samia

1037
00:54:06,000 --> 00:54:08,239
Speaker 1: the guard from Oklahoma. I'll this is kind of a

1038
00:54:08,280 --> 00:54:11,520
Speaker 1: focus for you because you like You're you're talking all

1039
00:54:11,560 --> 00:54:16,480
Speaker 1: my guys here, or Nelson the defensive end from Iowa.

1040
00:54:17,000 --> 00:54:21,240
Speaker 1: I like him too, so I'm gonna give you defend

1041
00:54:21,280 --> 00:54:24,719
Speaker 1: out of the equation. Okay, I'll take I'll take herd

1042
00:54:24,760 --> 00:54:29,040
Speaker 1: out of the equation. I'll go Sternburger. Okay, I'll go Sternburger,

1043
00:54:29,520 --> 00:54:34,440
Speaker 1: the Samia, the the the guard from Okay tackle as well,

1044
00:54:34,600 --> 00:54:38,120
Speaker 1: Okay College, Trevion Williams the runner from Texas A and

1045
00:54:38,360 --> 00:54:44,400
Speaker 1: m Or Nelson the defense've been from Iowa. I may

1046
00:54:44,520 --> 00:54:48,000
Speaker 1: go with with Rob there on Trevion Williams. Yeah, run

1047
00:54:48,120 --> 00:54:50,960
Speaker 1: running back. So everybody's talking about running back at ninety

1048
00:54:51,000 --> 00:54:52,879
Speaker 1: then huh what about I don't love it. I don't

1049
00:54:52,920 --> 00:54:54,879
Speaker 1: have as much as I love it, but I don't

1050
00:54:54,920 --> 00:54:57,719
Speaker 1: have a problem if I and again I say I

1051
00:54:58,600 --> 00:55:02,080
Speaker 1: this is without really digging into the players myself. I've

1052
00:55:02,360 --> 00:55:04,680
Speaker 1: got a working knowledge of them, but I haven't dug

1053
00:55:04,760 --> 00:55:07,600
Speaker 1: in like Brian say, that's why you know it's unds fair.

1054
00:55:07,680 --> 00:55:10,640
Speaker 1: I'm just but you know, the player they seem to

1055
00:55:10,719 --> 00:55:14,440
Speaker 1: like too is the Ferguson kid from Louisiana Tech who

1056
00:55:14,600 --> 00:55:19,280
Speaker 1: some people have first round. Yeah, so now now, okay Ferguson.

1057
00:55:19,360 --> 00:55:23,279
Speaker 1: Then at fifty eight, are you guys on board with Ferguson? Rob?

1058
00:55:23,520 --> 00:55:27,080
Speaker 1: Rob Rob read all these defensive line problems we have

1059
00:55:27,760 --> 00:55:31,680
Speaker 1: contractually coming up? Well, that's why I think my original

1060
00:55:31,800 --> 00:55:36,279
Speaker 1: mock I had Callier because defensive end, edge rusher. But

1061
00:55:36,360 --> 00:55:38,400
Speaker 1: it could be a need from for you a year

1062
00:55:38,480 --> 00:55:41,440
Speaker 1: from now. It's not. You can't rule out addressing that pick,

1063
00:55:41,520 --> 00:55:43,480
Speaker 1: even though tackle might be more of a need this year.

1064
00:55:43,719 --> 00:55:49,240
Speaker 1: You know what position can get you beat? Quarterback? Okay,

1065
00:55:51,080 --> 00:55:55,440
Speaker 1: he's not wrong about that's obvious. What position can get

1066
00:55:55,480 --> 00:56:00,480
Speaker 1: you beat? Offensive line or defensive line? Yeah? Yeah, So

1067
00:56:00,600 --> 00:56:02,959
Speaker 1: what are you Wide Receivers not gonna get you beat

1068
00:56:03,560 --> 00:56:06,319
Speaker 1: unless you don't have a good guy. You're thinking about

1069
00:56:06,320 --> 00:56:11,600
Speaker 1: the Rams game. I still am. Yeah, he's not going

1070
00:56:11,640 --> 00:56:15,560
Speaker 1: to get you beat. The free safety might the strongest.

1071
00:56:17,080 --> 00:56:18,719
Speaker 1: That goes back to what Stephen Jones said at the

1072
00:56:18,760 --> 00:56:21,160
Speaker 1: pre draft press conference. He said it's not a priority

1073
00:56:21,239 --> 00:56:25,680
Speaker 1: for us. Those playmaking safeties are rare. Right. If there's

1074
00:56:25,719 --> 00:56:30,399
Speaker 1: one there for you, you grab it is Darren Woodson there. Well,

1075
00:56:30,440 --> 00:56:32,400
Speaker 1: maybe not Darren Woodson, but he's like one of the

1076
00:56:32,440 --> 00:56:36,880
Speaker 1: greatest players. Every second round. I'm looking at my board

1077
00:56:37,000 --> 00:56:43,480
Speaker 1: and no, I just want to just position get you beat.

1078
00:56:45,200 --> 00:56:48,520
Speaker 1: And I can say no, no, no, positions not gonna

1079
00:56:48,560 --> 00:56:50,799
Speaker 1: get you beat. Yeah, you know, here's the deal at

1080
00:56:50,880 --> 00:56:54,960
Speaker 1: defensive tackle. Okay, And I'm just going off the Brian

1081
00:56:55,440 --> 00:57:00,680
Speaker 1: brought us board here where you've got Quinnin William number two,

1082
00:57:01,040 --> 00:57:04,680
Speaker 1: Ed Oliver number three, Rashan Gary number nineteen, Dexter Lawrence

1083
00:57:04,760 --> 00:57:07,719
Speaker 1: is thirty three, Jeffrey Simmons number four on your list,

1084
00:57:08,160 --> 00:57:13,080
Speaker 1: Jerry Tillery's thirty seven, Christian Wilkins is sixteen, Draymond Jones

1085
00:57:13,239 --> 00:57:17,400
Speaker 1: is thirty six. So I just listed nearly ten defensive

1086
00:57:17,480 --> 00:57:21,360
Speaker 1: tackles who are in your top thirty six, thirty seven. Yeah,

1087
00:57:21,560 --> 00:57:24,920
Speaker 1: it's better than the defensive end, right it's Zac Allen's

1088
00:57:25,000 --> 00:57:28,160
Speaker 1: forty five. Yeah, exactly, exactly. So that's what I'm saying,

1089
00:57:28,320 --> 00:57:31,440
Speaker 1: Bosa Allan sweat. Those guys are the guys who are

1090
00:57:31,440 --> 00:57:33,919
Speaker 1: gonna go at the defensive end spot. Now, now, where

1091
00:57:33,960 --> 00:57:36,320
Speaker 1: the run is going to be is on these defensive tackles.

1092
00:57:36,920 --> 00:57:39,240
Speaker 1: That's where that's where some people are gonna make some hay.

1093
00:57:39,600 --> 00:57:42,680
Speaker 1: So if he thought that much of that position, yeah,

1094
00:57:43,160 --> 00:57:48,400
Speaker 1: then that answers the question, go defensive tackle, defensive tackle. Yeah,

1095
00:57:49,120 --> 00:57:52,520
Speaker 1: but they probably won't do it. I bet you they

1096
00:57:52,640 --> 00:57:56,720
Speaker 1: draft the kid Hill from Tristan Hill, Yeah, number sixty

1097
00:57:56,760 --> 00:57:59,840
Speaker 1: seven or fifty eight. I bet you they take him

1098
00:57:59,840 --> 00:58:02,480
Speaker 1: at fifty eight. He won't be there. Nine think I

1099
00:58:02,640 --> 00:58:05,400
Speaker 1: don't think so, and I'm gonna house similar to day

1100
00:58:05,400 --> 00:58:07,400
Speaker 1: in a mock draft. I'm gonna act like he's there

1101
00:58:07,800 --> 00:58:10,840
Speaker 1: because I think that they might take the cornerback Williams.

1102
00:58:11,200 --> 00:58:13,080
Speaker 1: I think Chris Richard is going to carry a real

1103
00:58:13,160 --> 00:58:15,720
Speaker 1: big stick in this draft room and he's gonna hit

1104
00:58:15,800 --> 00:58:17,919
Speaker 1: everybody over the head with it. This is the type

1105
00:58:17,920 --> 00:58:20,240
Speaker 1: of guy I like, Yeah, this is give me this guy.

1106
00:58:20,360 --> 00:58:23,480
Speaker 1: We've got all these things coming out. Get give me

1107
00:58:23,560 --> 00:58:26,280
Speaker 1: this guy. Give me this guy. Okay, I got two

1108
00:58:26,360 --> 00:58:28,520
Speaker 1: more names I want to throw out before we wrap

1109
00:58:28,680 --> 00:58:31,320
Speaker 1: up here, and one of them along the lines of

1110
00:58:31,400 --> 00:58:34,640
Speaker 1: Tristan Hill, who's not getting any love. As Albert Huggins

1111
00:58:35,200 --> 00:58:39,360
Speaker 1: defensive tackle from Clemson. I'm talking mid round, you know, fourth,

1112
00:58:39,440 --> 00:58:41,960
Speaker 1: fifth round whatever. Some people got him as a six

1113
00:58:42,120 --> 00:58:44,520
Speaker 1: or seventh round talent. But he's a guy who is

1114
00:58:44,800 --> 00:58:47,920
Speaker 1: highly recruited and didn't play. You know, they got five

1115
00:58:48,000 --> 00:58:52,440
Speaker 1: defensive lineman from Clemson's that's why they gave out. If

1116
00:58:52,480 --> 00:58:54,960
Speaker 1: you look at their snaps, he got just about as

1117
00:58:55,000 --> 00:58:58,000
Speaker 1: many snaps and had as much production as Dexter Lawrence

1118
00:58:58,120 --> 00:59:01,000
Speaker 1: did for Clemson. I look at him as a guy

1119
00:59:01,040 --> 00:59:03,480
Speaker 1: who could be a mid round defense if you if

1120
00:59:03,600 --> 00:59:05,880
Speaker 1: you if you go a different route in the second

1121
00:59:05,920 --> 00:59:08,600
Speaker 1: and third round, he could be a mid round defensive

1122
00:59:08,640 --> 00:59:10,920
Speaker 1: tackle that you could. I'll give you. I'll give you

1123
00:59:10,920 --> 00:59:12,880
Speaker 1: a sleeper name too. It's not a sleeper. But if

1124
00:59:12,880 --> 00:59:15,840
Speaker 1: you running backs that Jalen Moore from Appleach you had

1125
00:59:15,920 --> 00:59:18,960
Speaker 1: him listed there. And if you don't know about Jalen

1126
00:59:19,040 --> 00:59:21,440
Speaker 1: Moore from app State, go take a peek at him.

1127
00:59:21,640 --> 00:59:25,880
Speaker 1: And a tight end Foster Moreau from Lash kind of

1128
00:59:26,000 --> 00:59:28,600
Speaker 1: complete guys. The tight end goes and he ran really

1129
00:59:28,680 --> 00:59:31,080
Speaker 1: well at the combine, which surprised me. Kind of inline.

1130
00:59:31,080 --> 00:59:33,920
Speaker 1: He's got some inline traits, could flex him. He's got

1131
00:59:34,000 --> 00:59:36,680
Speaker 1: some toughness to him. He will probably go before a

1132
00:59:36,760 --> 00:59:38,880
Speaker 1: lot of these guys that we talked about. How tough

1133
00:59:39,120 --> 00:59:43,280
Speaker 1: is he? Okay, Yeah, he had a weight room accident

1134
00:59:43,640 --> 00:59:48,200
Speaker 1: where I guess a bar fell on his mouth or something.

1135
00:59:48,240 --> 00:59:53,000
Speaker 1: He lost three teeth, okay, didn't miss a rep in practice. Yeah,

1136
00:59:53,280 --> 00:59:56,680
Speaker 1: here's another thing you think about this team because you

1137
00:59:56,800 --> 01:00:00,920
Speaker 1: mentioned Witten. Yeah, guess what. Foster more whose birthday is

1138
01:00:01,280 --> 01:00:05,800
Speaker 1: same day, is the same as Jason May six six. Yeah,

1139
01:00:06,240 --> 01:00:09,600
Speaker 1: he turns twenty two on May sixth. Hayson Winton turns

1140
01:00:09,680 --> 01:00:14,120
Speaker 1: thirty seven on May sixth, Foster More, what number did

1141
01:00:14,200 --> 01:00:17,880
Speaker 1: he wear at LSU? He warn Number eighteen, all right,

1142
01:00:18,120 --> 01:00:21,520
Speaker 1: number eighteen at LSU, famous number. That is exactly the

1143
01:00:21,640 --> 01:00:26,080
Speaker 1: number Brian brought us never war, did not wear. I'll

1144
01:00:26,120 --> 01:00:30,000
Speaker 1: talk you to your draft time. Thankular. This has been

1145
01:00:30,040 --> 01:00:33,240
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