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Speaker 1: Call It what it Is with Jessica Capshaw and Camille Luddington,

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Speaker 1: an iHeartRadio podcast.

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Speaker 2: Hello, Hello Capshaw, Well hello Luddington.

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Speaker 3: I love seeing your face. I love being here with you.

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Speaker 2: Me too, And we have an announcement to make. We

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Speaker 2: recently just got back from Paris.

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Speaker 3: Paris, we did it. Oops, we did.

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Speaker 2: It again, Paris the sequel.

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Speaker 1: I have a question, what was your favorite thing about

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Speaker 1: traveling together there this time?

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Speaker 2: Oh man, I gotta say so really, so many things.

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Speaker 2: But we laugh so much together. And we argued this trip.

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Speaker 2: We did argue a little bit. We argued. We threw

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Speaker 2: a little heat on that fire. I mean, it wasn't

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Speaker 2: a lot of heat. It was more just, you know,

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Speaker 2: I don't want to want Let's call it what it is.

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Speaker 2: You got a little grumpy at one point. I had

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Speaker 2: a grumpy knighting you. I'm just saying it started with

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Speaker 2: a little grumpy I did. And you know what I

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Speaker 2: love about us is that we do call it what

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Speaker 2: it is. And I was talking and you turned to

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Speaker 2: me and you said, you're really grumpy right now. And

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Speaker 2: earlier in the day you said, the story is really boring.

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Speaker 1: I did, we're just telling the longest story. It actually

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Speaker 1: was not the longest story in the taxi, and I

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Speaker 1: was looking what it was. I was like, Naddy, I

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Speaker 1: really was really not even in gay. I was like

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Speaker 1: trying to do other things to signal to you that

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Speaker 1: I was very bored by this story.

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Speaker 2: Okay, explain what happened though. This was this is why

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Speaker 2: I ended up grumpy at the end of the day.

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Speaker 2: I was actually telling you a very juicy story about

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Speaker 2: the inner workings and drama of another TV show which

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Speaker 2: I will not mention, and their cast members. And I

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Speaker 2: was telling it to you, and every five seconds you're like,

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Speaker 2: oh my god, look at this Instagram captions and so funny.

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Speaker 2: Oh look at this real And then I was trying

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Speaker 2: to get to like the thing, because, by the way,

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Speaker 2: people would love to hear what it was, and you

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Speaker 2: just turned to me to go, this is a little

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Speaker 2: bit boring.

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Speaker 3: Scott liked to hear what it was.

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Speaker 1: It was like, it felt like you were trying to

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Speaker 1: tell me, like your dream, like you're like, I love you.

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Speaker 1: A dream can be wonderful to explain, but ultimately, at

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Speaker 1: the end of the day, we all know the dream

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Speaker 1: didn't happen.

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Speaker 3: There's no consequence to the dream.

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Speaker 1: Whatever happened in your dream, no matter how fantastical and

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Speaker 1: wonderful it was for you to experience or terrifying, it

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Speaker 1: just didn't happen.

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Speaker 3: So that's what I felt about this story was just

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Speaker 3: this to it it.

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Speaker 2: Makes zero sense. This was a story. I was telling

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Speaker 2: you about something that literally happened to some people and

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Speaker 2: it was real juicy, and you were like, oh, look

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Speaker 2: at this puppy. I was like, I don't give a

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Speaker 2: shit about the poppy right now, I'm telling you this

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Speaker 2: crazy stuff that went down. And then just anyway I was.

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Speaker 3: It was crazy to you. That's what I'm trying to say,

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Speaker 3: is that is the dream analogy. It was crazy to you.

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Speaker 3: It was not so crazy to me. I didn't even

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Speaker 3: know the people you were talking about.

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Speaker 2: Honestly. You know what I love about this is the

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Speaker 2: question was what did we love about traveling together?

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Speaker 3: Well, we love that we can talk to each other.

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Speaker 3: Like that's that's exactactly right, Because.

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Speaker 1: I have a question, who do you think is the better?

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Speaker 1: Who who do you think is the better or worse traveler?

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Speaker 3: Well, in judge the two of us, Between the two

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Speaker 3: of us, yeah.

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Speaker 2: I think we're you know what. I think we're kind

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Speaker 2: of similar actually in our travels. I just don't think

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Speaker 2: we're similar in our prep.

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Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, yeah, no, no, no, that's okay. But I mean

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Speaker 3: I really.

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Speaker 1: Appreciate that you sort of when I came into your

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Speaker 1: room and was able to see the inner workings of

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Speaker 1: your suitcases that were open, and the explosion.

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Speaker 3: That you really bring your home with you on kas Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Like there's fuzzy slippers, there's there's you know, the fuzzy

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Speaker 1: little printed fuzzy headbands to keep your hair off your face. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it right.

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Speaker 2: Into the suitcase. I'm like, what's that? It doesn't even

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Speaker 2: have to make sense. I'm like, what is that a

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Speaker 2: giant you know, a telescope it's going in that'll.

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Speaker 3: Say your coffee baker came out.

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Speaker 2: Why not pack it on because you never know what

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Speaker 2: might happen mm.

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Speaker 3: Hmm yeah, and you're going to be prepared for it all.

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Speaker 2: I guarantee that you are a packer because I know myself.

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna tell you what I am. The packs maybe

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Speaker 2: a week before in this case.

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Speaker 1: It was only a couple of days. Only a couple

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Speaker 1: of days. Wow, Yeah, let's just call it what it is.

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Speaker 1: It's called preparation.

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Speaker 3: Okay. We were invited by Lacoste to see the men's

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Speaker 3: semi finals in Paris. Yeah, holand garo. I really, I'm

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Speaker 3: just going to always use my French accent.

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Speaker 2: That's fine. I'm used to it now. Well, hang on,

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Speaker 2: you were invited and then you go to Plus one,

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Speaker 2: So I felt like I didn't belong, but I was

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Speaker 2: still there. Somehow I'd escaped in there and I was

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Speaker 2: running wild and free.

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Speaker 3: I love it. I love it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: No, we were because we were going for the convention,

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Speaker 1: and then we were booking our hotels and my memory

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Speaker 1: was that the hotels were sort of booked up and

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Speaker 1: I said, why, what's going on because the Olympics aren't

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Speaker 1: until July. And someone said, oh, it's the French Open

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Speaker 1: and I said, the French Open is happening.

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Speaker 3: While we're there. And then I.

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Speaker 1: Reached out and said, hey, can we go? And then

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Speaker 1: we were so kindly picked up by lacasse They were

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Speaker 1: so they were amazing. Oh my gosh, it was so cool.

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Speaker 1: Just being in a different country and going to a

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Speaker 1: different place and having that kind of experience is really

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Speaker 1: so so cool. And I love tennis and I really

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Speaker 1: loved watching Alcaraz. It was actually kind of exciting because

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Speaker 1: you and I were rooting for different people too.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we picked our opponents and we got a little

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Speaker 2: competitive over it. I had a little bit of imposter

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Speaker 2: syndrome though, because when we walked to me, I thought, well,

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Speaker 2: first off, I'm lucky to be there, which, by the way,

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Speaker 2: anyone is, because it's such a crazy experience. I'd never

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Speaker 2: been to a tennis game before, and it's a Grand Slam, right,

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Speaker 2: that's what they call. It is a grand side. It's

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Speaker 2: Slam being news. Never mind.

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Speaker 3: This is how I was, like, I love this Grand Slam.

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Speaker 3: I've never been to a live match either.

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Speaker 2: I'd never been, and I figured, of course, nosebleed seats.

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Speaker 2: That's where Camille Luddington, you know, that's where I vibe.

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Speaker 2: I'm used to a nosebleed. And we walked out and

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Speaker 2: we we were literally on the court. Yeah, we felt

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Speaker 2: like we were we handed tennis rackets and we were

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Speaker 3: Yes, we were.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it was unreal.

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Speaker 3: Did you stretch beforehand?

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Speaker 1: Though?

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Speaker 2: Of course I did. Once I saw those seats, You're

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Speaker 3: Yeah, full anything, Yeah, full public stretching. Yeah, I love it. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: That was exciting. That was really exciting.

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Speaker 2: No, it was. It was absolutely incredible. The other thing

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Speaker 2: that really blew me away, which is a completely different thing,

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Speaker 2: but when we were at the fan convention, people had

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Speaker 2: call it, made their own call it what it is, March.

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Speaker 1: That was so cool. That was so cool. She made

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Speaker 1: little buttons and then a little tope bag. I yes,

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Speaker 1: and then we wore the buttons the whole day. We

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Speaker 1: had no shame in our promotion game of the podcast.

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Speaker 1: I could not have been more touched that there were

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Speaker 1: so many people who had listened to it and were

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Speaker 1: so excited the next one was coming out.

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Speaker 3: It was it really that really that made my day.

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Speaker 2: I made my day too, you know what.

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Speaker 3: I also really I loved.

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Speaker 1: I loved getting off of work and just going out

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Speaker 1: and then and then we were done. I looked at

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Speaker 1: Kimila and said that walk was so enjoyable. Should we

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Speaker 1: walk home? And what did you say, Kimila?

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Speaker 2: No?

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Speaker 3: Oh, turns out my traveling partner doesn't like to walk.

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Speaker 2: Jessica Capshow can walk in wedges. You got like full

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Speaker 2: on away. I was in a birken stock that also,

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Speaker 2: was like, let's walk even more. It had already been

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Speaker 1: She got a little grumpy. And then I had a

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Speaker 3: And so I'm following the directions and I see it's

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Speaker 1: There's no way that I have a buy in fucking

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Speaker 3: Like that are underneath her feet. No way she was

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Speaker 3: I just decide not to tell her that part, and

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Speaker 3: seen movies about Paris, but there's like roundabouts, they're like

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Speaker 3: you and then jumping in. So I'm like, cool, she

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Speaker 3: can just keep thinking that. So we're walking and I'm like, no, no,

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Speaker 3: let's just keep going a little bit further, a little

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Speaker 3: bit further. So now we get to this beautiful.

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Speaker 1: Beautiful braak that you know connects the left and right bank,

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Speaker 1: It says we only have twenty more minutes, and she'll

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Speaker 1: just be completely, you know, all in. Now we've only

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Speaker 1: did you say?

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Speaker 3: Well?

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Speaker 1: I needed to pee my pants. She also had to

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Speaker 1: use the rest of her.

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Speaker 2: I told you for an hour, I'm not you, guys.

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Speaker 2: Capsule's like, oh my own, this is all me, ovel

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Speaker 2: I My feet were dying. I was jet lagged, but

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Speaker 2: You're talking about the rumors or schmomers come again, the

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Speaker 2: Oh my god? Honestly, here's let's call it. Let's let's

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Speaker 2: And You're like, mm hmm, yeah, that's my Jess impression. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: And full on all the pitch.

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Speaker 3: In fact, we protected some.

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Speaker 2: I can't win the big part.

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Speaker 3: I remember it too, And then I remembered all the scenes.

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Speaker 1: The guy that played the shooter, he was so good

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Speaker 2: I'm sitting in shock because Mandy talked about like even

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Speaker 3: I don't remember this table read. I don't remember the

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Speaker 2: We shall see people. Listen, the fans remember everything, so

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Speaker 2: So C wrote us and said, I just got back

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Speaker 2: It was difficult. We had our differences, and after bringing

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Speaker 1: I don't think that makes you a terrible person or

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Speaker 2: Yeah. I don't even think that you need to not talk.

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Speaker 2: a friendship. I have definitely, and I don't know about you.

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Speaker 2: I've definitely traveled with people that I would not travel

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Speaker 3: No, No, I think you can have terrible thoughts and

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Speaker 2: I went on vacation with somebody who was extremely type

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Speaker 2: oh they're packing list for you there, yes, yes, like

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Speaker 2: It's like I wasn't planning you, I mean not like no. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: No, that would not be fun. That would not be fun.

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Speaker 1: I think they're just there are certain people you can

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Speaker 3: Four to six days.

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Speaker 2: That's fair.

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Speaker 3: I think I have.

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Speaker 2: I definitely have friends like that too. I don't even

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Speaker 1: Gets but that I have friends. I don't get sick

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Speaker 1: I wasn't sick of you, not sick of you at all.

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Speaker 1: I really like Helena or Helena Rose. Do you, ladies,

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Speaker 2: Then No, I have mixed. I have mixed feelings about it.

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Speaker 3: loved being with them. And yes, there were multiple times.

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00:21:22,200 --> 00:21:24,720
Speaker 1: Where you start it and you think, well, we're fine,

440
00:21:24,800 --> 00:21:27,200
Speaker 1: like we're just gonna be friends, and then something.

441
00:21:27,240 --> 00:21:28,320
Speaker 3: Inevitably it is.

442
00:21:29,160 --> 00:21:34,320
Speaker 1: It does feel like one of the people decides maybe

443
00:21:34,359 --> 00:21:35,800
Speaker 1: there could be more, and then it is, and then

444
00:21:35,840 --> 00:21:36,480
Speaker 1: it is ruined.

445
00:21:36,840 --> 00:21:38,359
Speaker 3: It's sadly, I do think that is true.

446
00:21:38,400 --> 00:21:41,119
Speaker 2: It is ruined. It definitely is ruined. But here's what

447
00:21:41,200 --> 00:21:43,680
Speaker 2: I think a lot of guys would think. Listening to you,

448
00:21:43,920 --> 00:21:47,399
Speaker 2: or even you know me, listening to you, you're like

449
00:21:47,680 --> 00:21:49,320
Speaker 2: I have a lot a lot of guy friends in

450
00:21:49,400 --> 00:21:50,359
Speaker 2: high school and college.

451
00:21:50,400 --> 00:21:50,960
Speaker 3: I just love that.

452
00:21:51,160 --> 00:21:53,080
Speaker 2: I'm like thinking, like, yeah, and I bet they really

453
00:21:53,240 --> 00:21:58,280
Speaker 2: loved you, like royal love. I have a hard time

454
00:21:58,359 --> 00:22:01,119
Speaker 2: believing that there were guys that you were really close

455
00:22:01,200 --> 00:22:03,159
Speaker 2: with they didn't have an old crushy crush on you.

456
00:22:04,640 --> 00:22:09,440
Speaker 3: I mean, well, I don't know, I don't know all

457
00:22:09,640 --> 00:22:12,200
Speaker 3: I don't know. I don't know. But there were a

458
00:22:12,280 --> 00:22:14,920
Speaker 3: couple that might have revealed themselves.

459
00:22:16,320 --> 00:22:19,480
Speaker 2: Are you counting them in this scenario of like, yes,

460
00:22:19,680 --> 00:22:22,040
Speaker 2: girls and guys can be friends because they can. If

461
00:22:22,119 --> 00:22:26,040
Speaker 2: they're counted in the scenario, they're immediately exed out because

462
00:22:26,080 --> 00:22:26,840
Speaker 2: they had a crush.

463
00:22:27,359 --> 00:22:31,840
Speaker 1: Oh but I just well, that just is a bummer

464
00:22:32,000 --> 00:22:34,400
Speaker 1: because I feel like there's such a great well, don't

465
00:22:34,440 --> 00:22:35,040
Speaker 1: you go back to like the.

466
00:22:35,000 --> 00:22:38,239
Speaker 3: When Harry met Sally right that Noraphron movie, Like can

467
00:22:38,320 --> 00:22:42,120
Speaker 3: men and women be friends? I don't know. I want

468
00:22:42,119 --> 00:22:44,080
Speaker 3: to believe that they can? Is that wrong?

469
00:22:44,160 --> 00:22:46,320
Speaker 1: Maybe that's my answer. I want to believe that they can,

470
00:22:46,520 --> 00:22:48,400
Speaker 1: but maybe they cannot.

471
00:22:49,640 --> 00:22:52,359
Speaker 2: I think that they can, of course they can. I

472
00:22:52,760 --> 00:22:58,639
Speaker 2: just think at some point someone often develops feelings and

473
00:22:58,760 --> 00:23:02,520
Speaker 2: that is not good. I think that's hard. Yes, And

474
00:23:02,600 --> 00:23:05,480
Speaker 2: I think that there are guys that I was friends

475
00:23:05,520 --> 00:23:07,960
Speaker 2: with in high school and I think that sometimes I

476
00:23:08,080 --> 00:23:09,880
Speaker 2: developed feelings and sometimes stated too.

477
00:23:10,440 --> 00:23:12,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that's the that is the bottom line

478
00:23:13,040 --> 00:23:17,000
Speaker 3: is that I think that I want for but well done.

479
00:23:17,080 --> 00:23:18,400
Speaker 3: I think what you said is very true.

480
00:23:18,520 --> 00:23:22,040
Speaker 1: I do think absolutely the likelihood of a man and

481
00:23:22,119 --> 00:23:26,359
Speaker 1: woman successfully being friends depends on the condition, which is,

482
00:23:27,000 --> 00:23:30,400
Speaker 1: are they both single, Are they both you know, partnered.

483
00:23:30,520 --> 00:23:32,640
Speaker 1: I mean that's a huge huge difference. If you both

484
00:23:32,680 --> 00:23:35,400
Speaker 1: go into it like a friendship at work, let's say,

485
00:23:36,040 --> 00:23:38,440
Speaker 1: and you're both and you know that you're both partnered,

486
00:23:38,560 --> 00:23:41,199
Speaker 1: then I absolutely think you can be friends. As long

487
00:23:41,240 --> 00:23:43,680
Speaker 1: as you have really clear boundaries, you understand who's who

488
00:23:44,240 --> 00:23:47,520
Speaker 1: and or what's what, then I absolutely think you can

489
00:23:47,560 --> 00:23:48,000
Speaker 1: be friends.

490
00:23:48,240 --> 00:23:50,240
Speaker 3: I actually really believe that that's happened to me.

491
00:23:50,359 --> 00:23:53,840
Speaker 1: I I and I've loved my guy friends at work

492
00:23:53,880 --> 00:23:58,640
Speaker 1: and it's been without problem or incident. I think when

493
00:23:58,680 --> 00:24:02,199
Speaker 1: you're single is where things can be a little they

494
00:24:02,240 --> 00:24:03,200
Speaker 1: can get a little monkey.

495
00:24:03,760 --> 00:24:07,680
Speaker 2: My guy friend who's my who married me, married me,

496
00:24:08,160 --> 00:24:11,040
Speaker 2: who married me and my husband Sean, and he's he

497
00:24:11,240 --> 00:24:13,560
Speaker 2: is really close friends with both of us and he's

498
00:24:13,760 --> 00:24:17,520
Speaker 2: engaged and we adore his fiance. I could go see

499
00:24:17,520 --> 00:24:19,239
Speaker 2: a movie with him, I could go to dinner with him,

500
00:24:19,280 --> 00:24:22,879
Speaker 2: and it would not be even a thought. However, there

501
00:24:22,920 --> 00:24:26,760
Speaker 2: are guy friends that I would still feel like, I,

502
00:24:27,000 --> 00:24:30,520
Speaker 2: you know, and we're not that well.

503
00:24:30,720 --> 00:24:33,720
Speaker 3: I think that's why I brought up work, because you

504
00:24:34,400 --> 00:24:36,280
Speaker 3: have to be able to work with people, right.

505
00:24:36,960 --> 00:24:38,440
Speaker 2: Yes, but that's what made me think of it, because

506
00:24:38,440 --> 00:24:42,000
Speaker 2: it's like, are you grabbing dinner with them after? I know,

507
00:24:42,160 --> 00:24:45,200
Speaker 2: but that's what But that's but that's because that comes

508
00:24:45,240 --> 00:24:47,800
Speaker 2: from the idea that like, you're not quite sure if

509
00:24:47,840 --> 00:24:50,240
Speaker 2: guys and girls can be friends, and so you're just

510
00:24:50,560 --> 00:24:55,119
Speaker 2: you're you're just careful. Isn't the word what I think it's.

511
00:24:55,200 --> 00:24:56,879
Speaker 2: I actually think it's more. I mean, I think it's

512
00:24:57,000 --> 00:25:00,440
Speaker 2: sort of healthy boundaries. Yes, but I think the questions

513
00:25:00,480 --> 00:25:02,200
Speaker 2: not that. I think the question is is like can

514
00:25:02,240 --> 00:25:04,760
Speaker 2: you chill? Can you go grab a beer together? Can

515
00:25:04,840 --> 00:25:07,320
Speaker 2: you go to a movie and hang out? I mean,

516
00:25:07,359 --> 00:25:11,200
Speaker 2: if that's what you do with girlfriends and there's no guideline,

517
00:25:12,119 --> 00:25:13,160
Speaker 2: see's tricky, tricky.

518
00:25:13,280 --> 00:25:14,960
Speaker 1: I'm picking up what you're putting down. I think I'm

519
00:25:15,080 --> 00:25:19,159
Speaker 1: just I don't I don't that's that's not my favorite answer.

520
00:25:19,800 --> 00:25:21,800
Speaker 1: I know, I wish it was the it was not.

521
00:25:22,520 --> 00:25:25,560
Speaker 1: I know that's chick, I know, I know, I know.

522
00:25:25,760 --> 00:25:27,159
Speaker 2: We need to when we have a guy guest, we

523
00:25:27,240 --> 00:25:29,280
Speaker 2: need to come back to this question because I actually

524
00:25:29,359 --> 00:25:32,919
Speaker 2: want to hear the guy's response to this. We need

525
00:25:33,000 --> 00:25:35,520
Speaker 2: the other side of this. I feel like what you

526
00:25:35,640 --> 00:25:36,480
Speaker 2: I feel like what you said.

527
00:25:36,520 --> 00:25:37,919
Speaker 1: I feel like girls are gonna be a little bit

528
00:25:37,960 --> 00:25:39,439
Speaker 1: more like, yeah, we can be friends, and guys are

529
00:25:39,440 --> 00:25:40,160
Speaker 1: gonna be like no way.

530
00:25:40,560 --> 00:25:43,440
Speaker 2: Let's see. I'm gonna ask them. I'm gonna We're gonna

531
00:25:43,480 --> 00:25:45,159
Speaker 2: flag this question and bring it back up.

532
00:25:45,600 --> 00:25:47,320
Speaker 3: I think it's an exit pole question for all our

533
00:25:47,400 --> 00:25:48,280
Speaker 3: male guests.

534
00:25:48,080 --> 00:25:50,439
Speaker 2: Which is for everybody. We're gonna have a few polls

535
00:25:50,480 --> 00:25:50,960
Speaker 2: with this one.

536
00:25:51,080 --> 00:25:52,440
Speaker 3: All right, we're gonna put the We're gonna put some

537
00:25:52,440 --> 00:25:55,560
Speaker 3: more attention on this ever evolving. We're gonna come back

538
00:25:55,600 --> 00:25:59,320
Speaker 3: to this. Okay, how about we go on to Lizzy. So, Lizzy,

539
00:26:00,320 --> 00:26:02,959
Speaker 3: I've been in this situationship with a woman and then

540
00:26:03,040 --> 00:26:06,720
Speaker 3: my best friend came along and suddenly my situationship decided

541
00:26:07,119 --> 00:26:09,160
Speaker 3: she wanted to be with my best friend behind my back,

542
00:26:09,240 --> 00:26:12,160
Speaker 3: and they are dating. Now. I feel betrayed by both.

543
00:26:12,359 --> 00:26:13,560
Speaker 3: What advice would you give?

544
00:26:14,200 --> 00:26:17,359
Speaker 1: Well, Number one, no kidding, you feel betrayed by both,

545
00:26:17,880 --> 00:26:22,240
Speaker 1: That's that's betrayal behind your back. It's the definition of betrayal.

546
00:26:22,280 --> 00:26:25,240
Speaker 1: You don't do things behind people's back. That's not cool.

547
00:26:25,800 --> 00:26:28,159
Speaker 1: And if you were being valued in a relationship that

548
00:26:28,280 --> 00:26:32,120
Speaker 1: was a situationship, then there would be you know, care

549
00:26:32,280 --> 00:26:35,320
Speaker 1: of your feelings and there would be a conversation before

550
00:26:36,400 --> 00:26:39,840
Speaker 1: they introduced that. You know, maybe not even their fault, right,

551
00:26:39,920 --> 00:26:42,840
Speaker 1: maybe they just fell into it, but you were not

552
00:26:43,119 --> 00:26:45,880
Speaker 1: regarded I don't think in the situation. So I'm really

553
00:26:45,960 --> 00:26:51,159
Speaker 1: sorry because that sucks and I would feel terrible, And

554
00:26:51,280 --> 00:26:55,520
Speaker 1: I guess now the advice is, I would take a

555
00:26:55,720 --> 00:26:58,120
Speaker 1: I would take a moment. I would I would put

556
00:26:58,160 --> 00:27:00,320
Speaker 1: them in a little time out. I think I feel

557
00:27:00,320 --> 00:27:02,920
Speaker 1: like I'm gonna I'm gonna take a little pause from

558
00:27:03,160 --> 00:27:07,200
Speaker 1: you all. And then I think if you wanted to

559
00:27:07,640 --> 00:27:09,320
Speaker 1: get back into it, I think it would be I

560
00:27:09,400 --> 00:27:11,600
Speaker 1: think you really need to understand what happened so that

561
00:27:11,720 --> 00:27:14,600
Speaker 1: it wouldn't happen again, because that you know, it was

562
00:27:14,680 --> 00:27:16,040
Speaker 1: not super respectful.

563
00:27:16,440 --> 00:27:19,800
Speaker 2: But I think I think the betrayal for me on

564
00:27:20,040 --> 00:27:22,879
Speaker 2: this one comes more from the best friend, to be honest,

565
00:27:22,960 --> 00:27:26,680
Speaker 2: because situationships they come and go, they're gonna, they're gonna,

566
00:27:26,880 --> 00:27:29,960
Speaker 2: they're gonna do what they do right, and if there's

567
00:27:30,000 --> 00:27:32,600
Speaker 2: not a commitment there, the lines can get a little

568
00:27:32,680 --> 00:27:35,840
Speaker 2: blurry and people can get a little they can get

569
00:27:35,840 --> 00:27:39,480
Speaker 2: a little shady. But a best friend, they're not so

570
00:27:39,760 --> 00:27:42,480
Speaker 2: they they they're not supposed to be doing that. They're

571
00:27:42,520 --> 00:27:45,240
Speaker 2: not because, by the way, if that really is your

572
00:27:45,280 --> 00:27:48,840
Speaker 2: best friend, you're probably confiding in them all the things

573
00:27:48,880 --> 00:27:52,960
Speaker 2: about the situationship, and they know all the ins and

574
00:27:53,040 --> 00:27:55,960
Speaker 2: outs of it. And so a lot of that betrayal

575
00:27:56,200 --> 00:27:59,359
Speaker 2: for me would come from the fact that I not

576
00:27:59,480 --> 00:28:01,119
Speaker 2: only trust you just as a best friend now to

577
00:28:01,200 --> 00:28:05,400
Speaker 2: do that, but I've been vulnerable with you, most likely

578
00:28:06,200 --> 00:28:09,959
Speaker 2: talking about this, and then what has been shared now

579
00:28:10,040 --> 00:28:13,320
Speaker 2: with that person, I don't know. I think it would

580
00:28:13,359 --> 00:28:17,440
Speaker 2: honestly really ruin the friendship for me. I think that,

581
00:28:19,359 --> 00:28:22,680
Speaker 2: especially in your twenties, I've found more so than my

582
00:28:22,840 --> 00:28:27,879
Speaker 2: thirties actually, that your friendships kind of can come and

583
00:28:28,040 --> 00:28:32,720
Speaker 2: go over things like this, and it really makes the

584
00:28:32,800 --> 00:28:36,399
Speaker 2: friends that are not like this just you become closer

585
00:28:36,480 --> 00:28:39,320
Speaker 2: to them and you value them even more.

586
00:28:40,680 --> 00:28:40,920
Speaker 4: Yeah.

587
00:28:41,160 --> 00:28:43,400
Speaker 1: Also you make really I mean again, I don't know

588
00:28:43,440 --> 00:28:48,640
Speaker 1: what age Lizzie is, but man, I mean I made

589
00:28:48,680 --> 00:28:53,160
Speaker 1: some questionable choices in my twenties about certain things where

590
00:28:53,200 --> 00:28:55,920
Speaker 1: you just I don't know, I think you don't understand

591
00:28:56,160 --> 00:28:59,440
Speaker 1: the consequences yet you and then you do something and

592
00:28:59,720 --> 00:29:02,160
Speaker 1: you it's just impulsive or whatever, and then all of

593
00:29:02,160 --> 00:29:06,120
Speaker 1: a sudden you're like, oh, that had real that had

594
00:29:06,160 --> 00:29:09,280
Speaker 1: real impact. I really hurt someone or someone really hurt me.

595
00:29:10,000 --> 00:29:14,880
Speaker 1: And and it's how you learn. Sadly, I mean really sadly.

596
00:29:14,920 --> 00:29:16,400
Speaker 3: I wish you could learn with that. It's the whole,

597
00:29:16,520 --> 00:29:18,960
Speaker 3: like you know, touching the fire. If you don't, you know,

598
00:29:19,080 --> 00:29:23,040
Speaker 3: you do have to get burned to really get it.

599
00:29:23,240 --> 00:29:25,480
Speaker 2: And the truth is is that most likely, and this

600
00:29:25,640 --> 00:29:28,520
Speaker 2: always helped me in any situation like that, these two

601
00:29:28,560 --> 00:29:32,360
Speaker 2: aren't getting married, This isn't gonna work out. And so

602
00:29:32,440 --> 00:29:35,600
Speaker 2: in the end, in like how many months are a year,

603
00:29:35,840 --> 00:29:40,400
Speaker 2: whatever it is, when that situationship is boring and it's done,

604
00:29:41,760 --> 00:29:45,680
Speaker 2: then most likely now that person's alone and they're gonna

605
00:29:45,720 --> 00:29:48,120
Speaker 2: miss your friendship and it will be a learning thing

606
00:29:48,160 --> 00:29:50,920
Speaker 2: for them, and you'll be months ahead and you'll be fine.

607
00:29:51,120 --> 00:29:54,640
Speaker 2: You're not gonna care. Yeah, it's hard losing Friendzo over

608
00:29:54,720 --> 00:29:57,960
Speaker 2: stuff like that. But again, is that really a friend

609
00:29:58,120 --> 00:30:01,160
Speaker 2: then that you care to keep for the long run

610
00:30:01,240 --> 00:30:03,440
Speaker 2: because life is hard and all these things come up,

611
00:30:04,240 --> 00:30:06,360
Speaker 2: you need that person to be solid with you, at

612
00:30:06,480 --> 00:30:07,320
Speaker 2: least in trust.

613
00:30:08,600 --> 00:30:08,800
Speaker 4: Yeah.

614
00:30:09,000 --> 00:30:09,480
Speaker 3: Completely.

615
00:30:09,720 --> 00:30:12,560
Speaker 2: It's a little Grace Slow memorial, by the way, very

616
00:30:12,760 --> 00:30:13,719
Speaker 2: Gray Sloan memorial.

617
00:30:13,760 --> 00:30:15,400
Speaker 3: I know, yeah, I know.

618
00:30:15,800 --> 00:30:18,600
Speaker 2: This could be any character writing in and we'd be like, well,

619
00:30:18,640 --> 00:30:22,680
Speaker 2: that's that's how a season finale goes. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

620
00:30:22,920 --> 00:30:23,960
Speaker 2: just won't remember she's in.

621
00:30:25,160 --> 00:30:29,440
Speaker 3: Why, Yeah, for sure, why do I need Yeah, no,

622
00:30:29,880 --> 00:30:31,200
Speaker 3: do the work and then I just leave it.

623
00:30:31,480 --> 00:30:34,000
Speaker 2: And then you literally just leave it your brain there.

624
00:30:34,640 --> 00:30:35,720
Speaker 3: I leave my brain there.

625
00:30:36,040 --> 00:30:38,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, I actually had I had I was

626
00:30:38,800 --> 00:30:42,680
Speaker 1: in a bad relationship and I really wanted to believe the.

627
00:30:42,840 --> 00:30:47,440
Speaker 3: Best and I was wrong and he was cheating and

628
00:30:47,520 --> 00:30:50,440
Speaker 3: doing all the things. And then it turned out.

629
00:30:50,440 --> 00:30:51,880
Speaker 2: I mean I thought that I could do you have

630
00:30:52,040 --> 00:30:53,160
Speaker 2: evidence of the cheating?

631
00:30:53,920 --> 00:30:55,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, ultimately he came clean.

632
00:30:56,360 --> 00:30:59,600
Speaker 2: But did you have any evidence or were you blindsided?

633
00:31:00,120 --> 00:31:02,200
Speaker 3: No? I had a I had a feeling. I had

634
00:31:02,240 --> 00:31:05,640
Speaker 3: a feeling. I had a feeling I always do yeah, yeah, yeah,

635
00:31:05,640 --> 00:31:07,640
Speaker 3: and I was like, I mean, like, what's going on?

636
00:31:07,840 --> 00:31:09,800
Speaker 3: Is this is what's going on? I mean, to his credit,

637
00:31:09,920 --> 00:31:14,240
Speaker 3: he said, yes, this is what's going on. Well went

638
00:31:14,280 --> 00:31:17,560
Speaker 3: and go. I went and cried in the bathroom. And

639
00:31:18,640 --> 00:31:20,600
Speaker 3: I thought that I could say goodbye to that and like,

640
00:31:21,160 --> 00:31:22,920
Speaker 3: just like you said, Nick, never have to see them

641
00:31:22,960 --> 00:31:25,520
Speaker 3: again or fine, goodbye, it's not going to work out,

642
00:31:25,920 --> 00:31:28,240
Speaker 3: but that you know, that relationship where he was cheating

643
00:31:28,280 --> 00:31:30,920
Speaker 3: on me? Who are they even? And I knew who

644
00:31:30,960 --> 00:31:36,120
Speaker 3: she was and no, in fact, they got married. They

645
00:31:36,200 --> 00:31:39,960
Speaker 3: got married and I had to work with both of

646
00:31:40,040 --> 00:31:45,120
Speaker 3: them again. Oh my god, it's so juicy while they

647
00:31:45,160 --> 00:31:46,720
Speaker 3: were planning the wedding. I had to sit there and

648
00:31:46,800 --> 00:31:50,120
Speaker 3: be like so exciting. Yeah, oh no, let's talk about

649
00:31:50,160 --> 00:31:54,160
Speaker 3: what colors the flowers are again? No, yeah, for sure,

650
00:31:54,880 --> 00:31:58,680
Speaker 3: so much fun. God that was awkward. How long were

651
00:31:58,720 --> 00:31:59,640
Speaker 3: you working with them for?

652
00:32:00,680 --> 00:32:01,840
Speaker 2: Did she hang on?

653
00:32:01,960 --> 00:32:02,000
Speaker 3: No?

654
00:32:02,160 --> 00:32:05,280
Speaker 2: I have more questions about this. Did she hang on?

655
00:32:05,440 --> 00:32:07,680
Speaker 2: I need to know the full details. Did she know

656
00:32:07,960 --> 00:32:10,360
Speaker 2: that you guys were together or did.

657
00:32:10,320 --> 00:32:12,200
Speaker 3: She not know? Was she in the dark about that?

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Speaker 3: I never asked. I never asked her if she knew, No,

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Speaker 3: I didn't.

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Speaker 2: I would ask him, what's your instinct on it, because

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Speaker 2: by the way, she's like, do you like these flowers?

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Speaker 2: And she knew I'm gonna kill you.

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Speaker 3: I think she knew. I think, but I think she

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Speaker 3: kind of knew.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know what he told her, but

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Speaker 1: but the way that she treated me, and it wasn't poorly,

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Speaker 1: but the way that she acted around me was sort

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Speaker 1: of like, uh, I was imagining.

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Speaker 3: That he told her, like, oh, she had a really

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Speaker 3: big crush on me. I know I was in a

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Speaker 3: relationship with you. No that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know if you could get away with

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00:32:49,640 --> 00:32:52,200
Speaker 2: this now, because I feel like everything gets posted on

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00:32:52,320 --> 00:32:55,800
Speaker 2: social media. So if this was now, you would have

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00:32:55,840 --> 00:32:58,120
Speaker 2: been all over that Instagram account. There's no hiding that

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00:32:58,240 --> 00:33:01,000
Speaker 2: you were together, unless you're of those shady people that

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Speaker 2: keep the relationship off the account.

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Speaker 3: I don't know anything about this world, so I don't know.

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Speaker 2: I don't know. Big red flag. By the way, if

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Speaker 2: you're in a relationship and you're off that person's social media,

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00:33:12,800 --> 00:33:16,400
Speaker 2: they're purposely not posting about you. Huge red flag.

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Speaker 3: Oh well, that that seems obvious for sure. You know what,

683
00:33:20,000 --> 00:33:22,760
Speaker 3: it's not obvious to some people, like committed relationship and

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Speaker 3: they're not posting pictures with you.

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Speaker 2: Ah. People, people are like, I just think he just

686
00:33:26,840 --> 00:33:28,560
Speaker 2: doesn't like you know, he doesn't want to mess up

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Speaker 2: the grid.

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Speaker 3: What yeah, Oh, come here, pull that grid. You bring

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Speaker 3: that grid over here.

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Speaker 2: I'm serious, I'm not kidding. It happens. People keep.

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Speaker 1: If anybody ever writes in or calls in and says,

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Speaker 1: my boyfriend or my girlfriend is keeping me off their grid.

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Speaker 3: I would say walk on by for sure.

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Speaker 1: Bye.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, that's good times being cheated on? Have you

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Speaker 3: ever been cheated on?

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Speaker 2: Yes? Are you kidding?

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00:34:04,000 --> 00:34:04,160
Speaker 3: Oh?

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Speaker 2: It's a great I mean, it's not a great story.

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00:34:06,400 --> 00:34:07,560
Speaker 2: It's a very painful story.

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00:34:08,480 --> 00:34:12,120
Speaker 3: But but it's a great story. Later telling this, I

702
00:34:12,200 --> 00:34:12,880
Speaker 3: feel nothing now.

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Speaker 2: By the way, obviously, well it's a it was a Yes,

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Speaker 2: I have been cheated on. I will it's a long story,

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00:34:19,800 --> 00:34:21,600
Speaker 2: so I'll have to get into it in another episode.

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00:34:21,760 --> 00:34:25,839
Speaker 2: But I yes, I have been cheated on. And by

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00:34:25,880 --> 00:34:27,359
Speaker 2: the way, it's kind of a juicy one.

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Speaker 1: Ooh, I can't wait. Okay, well then we're just gonna

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00:34:30,680 --> 00:34:32,920
Speaker 1: tease that one. Let's have a whole episode about cheating

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00:34:33,600 --> 00:34:35,440
Speaker 1: Oh are you kidding? We're gonna have a million I

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00:34:35,520 --> 00:34:37,160
Speaker 1: mean not like I hope people are cheating on people,

712
00:34:37,200 --> 00:34:38,920
Speaker 1: but I'm sure that we got some DMS or some

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00:34:39,120 --> 00:34:40,440
Speaker 1: questions about being cheated on.

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Speaker 3: So let's go dig those bad boys up.

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00:34:43,160 --> 00:34:43,799
Speaker 2: Oh for sure.

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Speaker 3: Every day?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, of course, I mean like unfortunately happens, and you

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00:34:48,120 --> 00:34:51,120
Speaker 2: know in every decade of people's lives, it's hard.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, But again I will say what I said last

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Speaker 1: time we had a caller, which is cook Cook Cook

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Speaker 1: Cook Karma, because I have.

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Speaker 3: Seen that cup and they are still married.

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Speaker 2: But I wouldn't want to be them, of course you don't.

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Speaker 1: Nope, I would want to be them, and I'm so

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Speaker 1: glad that And that's again what I always say, like

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Speaker 1: I'm so happy that my life turned out the way

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00:35:13,360 --> 00:35:15,640
Speaker 1: that my life turned out, and that my partner turned

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00:35:15,640 --> 00:35:16,520
Speaker 1: out to be my partner.

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Speaker 4: Like it's all, it's all, it all works out, it's

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Speaker 4: all say, it's true, it really does all right, Well, listen,

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Speaker 4: I have I have loved this recap and.

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Speaker 2: I've loved these questions today. They were so different. We

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Speaker 2: got to get back into that man and woman one

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Speaker 2: and the friendship when we have a dude on the show.

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Speaker 2: But I want to remind everyone the three different ways

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Speaker 2: that they can contact us. They can DM us on

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Speaker 2: the Instagram, they can follow us on TikTok, i'd call

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Speaker 2: it what it is pod, and they can even call

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Speaker 2: the voicemail at.

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Speaker 3: Eight three three seven call it or eight seven seven

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Speaker 3: seven two two five five four eight, or they can

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Speaker 3: email us at call it at iHeartRadio dot com.

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Speaker 2: Give us all the details. We just love a detailed

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00:36:04,880 --> 00:36:08,120
Speaker 2: question too, because the more information we have, the better

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Speaker 2: we can answer. Jessica, this has been so much fun. Again.

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Speaker 2: I love you with the call it community.

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Speaker 3: I love it the call it crew. All Right, I

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Speaker 3: think we should call it the end of the episode,