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Speaker 1: Tony Fusco Show. As always, Polly Fusco here with Tony Fusco.

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Speaker 1: Tony another good guest today on the show. Yep. You know,

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Speaker 1: with the Browns and the toilet and the Jets below

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Speaker 1: someone who coached them both. We have former NFL head

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Speaker 1: coach Eric Manginie on with us today. This guy had

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Speaker 1: the unfortunate honor of having to coach both teams. We're

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Speaker 1: gonna get his insight into what the hell happened there. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: before we get into that, Tony. Uh, you know, we've

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Speaker 1: been getting analytics on the show from the people at Apple.

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Speaker 1: They send us these analytics. There's a metric out there.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna give you a little inside business people. There's

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Speaker 1: a metric called consumption rate that tells you how much

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Speaker 1: of the show people listening to. Our consumption rate is

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Speaker 1: a hundred and nine. So that must mean that people

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Speaker 1: listen to our show and then they just sit there

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Speaker 1: for maybe thirty fifty minutes after and they're just really

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Speaker 1: processing everything because you can't process it while you listen

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Speaker 1: to there's so much information, Yep, there is. And on

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Speaker 1: that note, we're gonna throw a little curveball at your people.

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Speaker 1: Usually we do our NFL takeaways, but today we're gonna

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Speaker 1: do what they call in the business a segment. Tony

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Speaker 1: and I we put our heads together. We came up

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Speaker 1: with something real creative, tell them, Tony. So basically, in

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Speaker 1: this segment, we're gonna talk about something that happened, and

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Speaker 1: then we're gonna tell you if it's good or not good?

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Speaker 1: Good or not good? Alright, first storyline, Tony tom Brady

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Speaker 1: When you're playing in the league, you do not want

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Speaker 1: to peek too soon. End up, bucking Is are peaking

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Speaker 1: too soon. So what happens is when they get to

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Speaker 1: peek later in the season. You know what it's like, Tony,

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Speaker 1: It's like when you're dating. You don't want to take

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Speaker 1: The Philadelphia Eagles lost another close nail, by this time

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Speaker 1: It's clearly good. You want to get your losses out

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Speaker 1: let's get him in here. This guy, you know, spent

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