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Speaker 1: Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio, the George

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Speaker 1: Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong, Joe Getty.

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Speaker 2: Armstrong and Jetty and now he Armstrong and Yetty. A

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Speaker 2: New York Post, Now that's a good one. Got a

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Speaker 2: headline that says, chef reveals common mistake people make when

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Speaker 2: trying to make perfect bacon. See I would click on

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Speaker 2: that you have chef fired because her boobs were too big.

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Speaker 2: I'm not going to click on that one. All right,

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Speaker 2: New York Post, What if.

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Speaker 3: A particularly large breasted chef could solve your bacon?

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Speaker 2: Wolles, I got two little short, funny things here. I'm

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Speaker 2: not going to give you the background. You either know

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Speaker 2: what this is about or nuts the new story of

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Speaker 2: the day. You know, go back and listen to early

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Speaker 2: segments if you want to know what we've said about

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Speaker 2: that Armstrong and Getty on demand. First, this break news

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Speaker 2: District judge has just ruled Jeffrey Goldberg must be added

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Speaker 2: back into signal chat, which is funny. And this and

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Speaker 2: this uh communication from forty four BC. We just have

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Speaker 2: the initials of the names g cashus. We've agreed. March

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Speaker 2: fifteenth is a day m brutus. I guess we have

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Speaker 2: to Cassius. Don't forget your daggers, j Caesar. Guys, that's

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Speaker 2: pretty funny. Yeah, I've forgotten the name of the uh,

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Speaker 2: what's the what's the messaging service again? Signal? Signal? Okay,

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Speaker 2: you know, there's just down. There's one breaking little piece

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Speaker 2: here that's worth mentioning Byron new York of the Is

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Speaker 2: he what the examiner? I think so Waltz is telling

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Speaker 2: colleagues that he is never we're met or talked to

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Speaker 2: Jeffrey Goldberg ever, So if that's true, how the hell

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Speaker 2: did he get added into the conversation?

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Speaker 3: But that again sounds like a loyally denial to me.

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Speaker 3: He's emailed with him. Okay, anyway, so your choice shack,

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Speaker 3: because I don't care.

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Speaker 2: They're both great. What do you want to hear? First?

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Speaker 3: The World Happiness Report is a sham. I just waved

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Speaker 3: in our face.

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Speaker 2: Again, as it is every year about how happy they

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Speaker 2: are in Scandinavia or whatever. We were our lowest ranking

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Speaker 2: So that's a choice number one. The whole the World

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Speaker 2: Happiness Report is a sham.

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Speaker 3: The media loves hyping the annual study, but its methodology

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Speaker 3: doesn't hold up to scrutiny or shock. Also not a shock,

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Speaker 3: but troubling. Have we really passed peak brain power? There's

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Speaker 3: a compelling case that we're getting dumb as a species.

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Speaker 2: I feel like I'm dumber than I was last week.

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Speaker 2: Not on an individual basis, Jack, but is a species.

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Speaker 2: Although you're not helping Franklin. Whoa the college kids? Yeah,

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Speaker 2: go ahead play that the ninety isn't Michael? Who do

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Speaker 2: the colonists fight in the Revolutionary War? God? In the revolution?

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Speaker 4: It was?

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Speaker 2: Oh, I don't know if this is right. I mean,

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Speaker 2: it sounds so stupid? Was it the Spanish? Wait? What

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Speaker 2: are your majors? Business? Biology, elementary education? Oh? They're actually

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Speaker 2: they're asking actual college students at spring break these questions.

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Speaker 1: Have we ever had a female vice president in the

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Speaker 1: United States?

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Speaker 2: Oh?

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Speaker 4: Yes, Hillary Clinton?

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Speaker 2: What continent is Mexico located in? If you go south Mexico,

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Speaker 2: it's in Australia.

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Speaker 5: Wait hold on, no, no, no, no, it's in the wait Mexico.

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Speaker 2: Wait are we talking about the same Mexico? Can you

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Speaker 2: name the seven continents? Yes? North America, South America, Asia, Europe.

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Speaker 1: I know there's another one, Canada.

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Speaker 3: At least he could get started. I mean the colonists

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Speaker 3: fighting the Spanish. Who could forget the Boston piea party

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Speaker 2: And this probably politically active college student who has very

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Speaker 2: strong opinions on things, believes Hilary Clinton was vice president? Hm?

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Speaker 3: So have we really passed peak brain power? Are we

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Speaker 3: getting dumber? The data tell a worrying tale. We'll get

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Speaker 3: to the happiness index some other time.

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Speaker 2: Maybe, I don't know.

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Speaker 3: Human cognitive capabilities appeared to be in retreat according to

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Speaker 3: the New Analytical Peace in the Financial Times by John

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Speaker 3: Byrne Murdock, of humans past peak brain power, I was paywalled,

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Speaker 3: so I went with this account of the account instent.

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Speaker 3: So since twenty twelve, scores in reasoning and problem solving

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Speaker 3: have fallen precipitously across benchmark tests in rich countries. The

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Speaker 3: has climbed steadily since the mid twenty tens. Gee, I

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Speaker 3: wonder why that might be.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, don't kidding that kind of that's all right?

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Speaker 3: The most striking perhaps is that twenty five percent of

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Speaker 3: America now struggle with basic mathematical reasoning. But what's changed

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Speaker 3: is not human biology. Don't blame de evolution, chemtrails or microplastics.

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Speaker 2: I don't know.

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Speaker 3: I'm still an idiocracy guy. I think de evolution is happening.

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Speaker 3: Butting and seed oils, that's right, you got it, you

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Speaker 3: gave it away. It's behavior that's changed. Reading rates have plummeted.

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Speaker 3: Feerd and a half of Americans read a book in

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Speaker 3: twenty twenty two. Does getting like twenty two pages in

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Speaker 3: count fewer than half read ab book correct in a year.

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Speaker 3: Yet this represents merely one facet of a broader phenomenon,

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Speaker 3: the erosion of sustained mental focus.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I worry about that all the time. I know

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Speaker 2: mine is way worse. I mean, there's no doubt about it.

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Speaker 2: We talk about it all the time. I read so

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Speaker 2: much less than on YouTube long form because I can't.

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Speaker 3: The culprit appears to be and if you need to

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Speaker 3: hear the end of this sentence, you're one of the

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Speaker 3: stupid people dragging us down. The culprit appears to be

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Speaker 3: our newly passive relationship with information rather than self directed exploration.

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Speaker 3: It just comes to us web surfing goods, scrolling bad.

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Speaker 2: God, I've got to fight that. I've got to got

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Speaker 2: to get better at fighting the scrolling. Damn it. It's

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Speaker 2: so easy to get sucked in, just those tiny little

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Speaker 3: Just it's yeah, I can feel it, and I feel

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Speaker 3: how insidious it is. The problem is it's easier said

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Speaker 3: than done fighting against it. This is my great revelations

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Speaker 3: old enough to remember having like one hundred and fifty

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Speaker 3: cable channels and you just kept flipping through and nothing

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Speaker 3: was interesting, Flip, flip flip, How is there nothing good on?

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Speaker 3: I have one hundred and fifty channels. Now it's the opposite,

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Speaker 3: you flip. Everything's good, everything's good. This is something I want.

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Speaker 3: This is something I want.

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Speaker 2: This is something I want right because the algorithm figured

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Speaker 2: out what I want. The best minds of our time

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Speaker 2: are devoted to addicting us to dopey little shots of

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Speaker 2: so indifferent. So I have to make the conscious decision, yes,

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Speaker 2: this is good rare concert footage. I've never seen before,

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Speaker 2: or this is hilarious, you know, stand up, I haven't

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Speaker 2: seen before or whatever. It's all stuff I want, but

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Speaker 2: I've got to do other things. I can't only do this.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, the dividing line for me is just being entertained.

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Speaker 3: I will say, this is not the part of my

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Speaker 3: to be productive. But anyway, y'all approach it the way

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Speaker 3: it works for you. But a little more from the piece,

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Speaker 3: which I thought was very interesting and allegedly there is

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Speaker 3: some encouraging news too. But we've moved from finite web

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Speaker 3: pages to infinite constantly refreshed feeds and a constant brage

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Speaker 3: of notifications. We no longer spend as much time actively

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Speaker 3: browsing the web and interacting with people we know, but

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Speaker 3: instead are presented with a torrent of content. This represents

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Speaker 3: a move from self directed behavior to passive consumption. Constant

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Speaker 3: context switching. Research finds that active intentional use of digital

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Speaker 3: technologies is often benign or even beneficial. So you know,

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Speaker 3: I've called for unplugging the Internet over and over again,

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Speaker 3: only half seriously.

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Speaker 2: But it's not the Internet per se.

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Speaker 3: Whereas the behaviors that have taken off in recent years,

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Speaker 3: have been shown to affect everything from our ability to

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Speaker 3: process verbal information to attention, working memory, and self regulation.

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Speaker 2: Oh my god, that's horrifying.

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Speaker 3: There passively with our intellectual mouth open and being fed

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Speaker 3: like a baby bird as opposed to going and hunting

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Speaker 3: down our prey is killing us. In short, though the

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Speaker 3: fundamental human capacity for intelligence remains intact, its execution is

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Speaker 3: increasingly compromised by our habits.

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Speaker 2: So the big question that we ask at least four

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Speaker 2: times a week, it seems, do we arrest this development

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Speaker 2: as human beings or is it just going to take over?

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Speaker 2: And those of us who remember the before times are

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Speaker 2: all dead And there won't be anybody around to even

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Speaker 2: talk about this because they don't know any other way.

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Speaker 2: I mean, it won't be what twenty thirty years, There

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Speaker 2: will hardly be anybody left who remembers what your brain

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Speaker 2: was like before this, So who would complain? So some

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Speaker 2: notes of prospective and or hope will let you, good folks,

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Speaker 2: be the your to how significant all of this is?

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Speaker 2: Blah blah blah. Digital revolt.

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Speaker 3: A rebellion may already be brewing, and not just among

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Speaker 3: parents who now regret giving their pre sixteen year old smartphones.

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Speaker 3: Surveys revealed it around half of gen z Wish's social

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Speaker 3: media platforms didn't exist. Young people are increasingly modifying their

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Speaker 3: digital behaviors, with flip phones making comeback and offlining gaining

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Speaker 2: I don't I haven't seen this, and maybe it's happening,

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Speaker 2: but I haven't seen it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm aware of the Amish, but I don't think

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Speaker 3: you know wagon driving is about to supplant the cars

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Speaker 2: Funny you say that it was hot in our house

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Speaker 2: what are we amish?

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Speaker 3: Now?

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Speaker 2: I guess we're Amish. Now that's an odd protest.

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Speaker 3: Anyway, this author rights perhaps were approaching an inflection point

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Speaker 3: where the pursuit of mental clarity and sustained attention could

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Speaker 3: once again and become valued social currency. And how about

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Speaker 3: the idea of cognitive adaptation. Perhaps what we're seeing is

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Speaker 3: in deterioration, but specialization as calculators want freed mental capacity

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Speaker 3: from arithmetic, which is still useful, though today's digital tools

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Speaker 3: allow humans to outsource memory and routine processing, liberating cognitive

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Speaker 3: resources for higher functions. Ah, is that what the kids

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm not feeling that in my own life that

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Speaker 2: something else by not happy to remember certain things.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, give me clip number ninety two and you can

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Speaker 3: be the judge of whether this is liberating cognitive resources

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Speaker 3: for higher functions.

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Speaker 2: Who won the Civil War? Oh, shoot, it's East or West? Right, Well,

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Speaker 2: it's the Civil War, so it's the civilians versus whoever

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Speaker 2: was in power. How many justices are on the Supreme Court? Justices? Like,

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Speaker 2: when you say that, you mean like that, bi.

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Speaker 3: How do you know liberating cognitive resources for higher function?

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Speaker 2: How did you possibly graduate high school without that knowledge?

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Speaker 2: How are you in college with that with It's just stunning.

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Speaker 3: It's shocking. We need to talk more about it. In

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Speaker 3: a moment. After a quick word from our friends, that

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Speaker 3: simply save home security. Millions of Americans enjoying security and

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Speaker 3: peace of mind every time they arm their systems. Traditional

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Speaker 2: That's too late.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so all you morons, you don't want somebody to

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Speaker 2: So that's CNN's report on how this whole thing happened.

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Speaker 5: No contest, and I answer that it is decryption. So

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Speaker 2: Well there you got to see IA director saying as

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Speaker 3: the media sucks. You got both?

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Speaker 3: This is Michael Waltz, the National Security Advisor, very very

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Speaker 3: smart guy. Not Tim Walls, the Minnesotan moron.

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Speaker 2: Now, this is the National Security Advisor who I think

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Speaker 2: put together this signal chat with all these people, and

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Speaker 2: he accidentally included Goldberg because he regularly is communicating with Goldberg,

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Speaker 2: like leaking stuff to Goldberg, because Goldberg, as a Jewish man,

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Speaker 2: is in big and supporting Israel also. And that's just

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Speaker 2: how he gets his side of the story out. That's

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Speaker 2: a common thing people in administrations. Do you get your

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Speaker 2: side of the story out to the New York Times

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Speaker 2: or the Atlantic or whoever anonymously to try to push

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Speaker 2: conversations different directions. That makes sense now, somebody pushed back

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Speaker 2: on that with a decent Oh, darn it, my son's

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Speaker 2: trying to call I'm sure there is some tragedy going on.

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Speaker 2: I will try to call him back. During the commercials,

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Speaker 2: a person pointed out, and this is a decent question.

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Speaker 2: If Goldberg and Waltz are so close, why is Goldberg

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Speaker 2: throwing him under the bus. You wouldn't think if you've

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Speaker 2: got that close a line directly to the president, who's

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Speaker 2: feeding you information, so you have all these exclusives that

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Speaker 2: you would burn that right. Right.

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Speaker 3: It's interesting Goldberg's behavior because he has not published in

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Speaker 3: detail a lot of the sensitive stuff in the conversation,

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Speaker 3: but we know a lot of who said, what, what

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Speaker 3: their attitude was, and they're a bunch of quotes, so

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Speaker 3: it's not clear to me did he like half put

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Speaker 3: it out?

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Speaker 2: But you're right.

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Speaker 3: Anyway back to the theory and the counter to the theory,

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Speaker 3: that makes sense.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you would not if you had if I.

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Speaker 3: As a quote unquote journalist, had a source as high

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Speaker 3: up as the Director of National Security.

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Speaker 2: And in your set for all long that you might

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Speaker 2: be set for the rest of the presidential term.

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Speaker 3: Right with fantastic access. No, you would not torch that

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Speaker 3: bridge unless it was such a blockbuster. I mean, it'd

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Speaker 3: have to be Watergate sized.

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Speaker 2: And this is not that this is not Watergate size,

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Speaker 2: but it's pretty big. I mean, it's the news story

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Speaker 2: of the day. Certainly, I'll tell you what the significance

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Speaker 2: of this is.

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Speaker 3: And I'd made the comparison earlier of you know, in

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Speaker 3: our business, sometimes you will accidentally leave a microphone on,

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Speaker 3: or somebody.

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Speaker 2: Will and you'll, oh, my god, what we've.

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Speaker 3: Been saying for the last several minutes has been broadcast,

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Speaker 3: say during a commercial break, who said, what, Oh my god,

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Speaker 3: Oh my god, is our career over? And in this case,

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Speaker 3: it seems like the access to Goldberg is the or

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Speaker 3: the giving access to Goldberg is leaving the microphone on.

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Speaker 2: And what was said was.

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Speaker 3: A really interesting debate about foreign policy in the houthis

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Speaker 3: and shipping lanes and the America, America's role in the world,

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Speaker 3: and a little bit of bad mouthing of Europe, but

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Speaker 3: nothing you can't bounce back from. Nobody made a really

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Speaker 3: really off color joke or a racial joke in front

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Speaker 3: of the open microphone. We did not disclose a secret

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Speaker 3: plan to counter China in the Taiwan Straits or something

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Speaker 3: equally impactful. This was the dog that did not bark.

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Speaker 3: It just whimpered a little bit.

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Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't know how things usually work.

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Speaker 2: I am surprised that this is not we all get

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Speaker 2: together in a room, face to face, highly secure to

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Speaker 2: have these sorts of discussions. I'm surprised that they have

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Speaker 2: any sort of mechanism where they're chating. I mean, given

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Speaker 2: the way that China has ACKed into practically everything, or

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Speaker 2: the Russians, or the North Koreans, or the Iranians.

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Speaker 3: If you although I'm not sure, I would love to

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Speaker 3: have described to me where's this Where in the discussion

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Speaker 3: they were that this string captures because I get the

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Speaker 3: sense that the policy had been decided.

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Speaker 2: Trump had said go ahead and do the strikes.

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Speaker 3: Jd Vance had some reservations and if you did not

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Speaker 3: hear our thorough going through of who said what in

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Speaker 3: the whole team of rivals, nature of the discussion super

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Speaker 3: super interesting. That was our two of the show today,

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Speaker 3: Grab It by Podcast Armstrong and Gettyion Demand. I think

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Speaker 3: it's the second half of the hour, but trust me

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Speaker 3: when I say it's worth a listen because it's really interesting.

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Speaker 3: But I think it was the advisors kicking around. Do

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Speaker 3: we go ahead or do we ask for one more

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Speaker 3: hearing in front of the president about the pros and cons?

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Speaker 2: It wasn't. Well, according to Goldberg, do it includes I

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Speaker 2: mean I got a clip about that somewhere. It includes

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Speaker 2: a lot of pretty detailed details. Mm hmm. Yeah, what

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Speaker 2: we would attack and how and what order and all

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Speaker 2: that different sort of stuff, right, and specific targets. That's right. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: And I would think just with the people that are

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Speaker 2: on there, Vice President, sec Deaf, Secretary of State, CIA

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Speaker 2: Director d and I, I mean that's I would think

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Speaker 2: anytime they talk about something it would be highly protected.

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Speaker 2: But I don't know.

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Speaker 3: Maybeeah, yeah, yeah, I see your point, and I can't

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Speaker 3: say you're wrong. It was shockingly sloppy to accidentally have

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Speaker 3: a completely unqualified, unsworn, non security clearance journalist on there.

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Speaker 2: It was just a nightmare. Oh you get For instance,

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Speaker 2: what was I listened to one of your one of

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Speaker 2: your comedy shows. I thing goes the Daily Show, Daily Show.

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Speaker 2: Last week John Stewart mentioned on there, well, we bombed

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Speaker 2: the Hoho Thys, we bombed Yemen again, and everybody booed

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Speaker 2: in the crowd because they don't like, you know, bombing

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Speaker 2: people that super lefty. They're jobs. But uh uh, do

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Speaker 2: you've anything Trump does this? Yeah? Sure, you get a journalist,

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Speaker 2: so say it was gonna bomb amass, you get a

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Speaker 2: journalist who hates that. And there are a lot of

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Speaker 2: journalists that do. They leak that immediately, maybe directly to Amos.

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Speaker 2: I mean that is not out of the question in

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Speaker 2: my mind.

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Speaker 3: Right, yeah, if you're that Washington Post gal I mentioned

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Speaker 3: earlier and is worth right.

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Speaker 2: So that could have been horrific. You're right, is the

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Speaker 2: dog that didn't bark? It could have been so bad.

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Speaker 2: This is like when you accidentally text the wrong person

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Speaker 2: and it's baniw you know, but you wereize. Okay, this

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Speaker 2: is a good warning. I need to be more captful

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Speaker 2: before I presentd on all my texts. Right.

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Speaker 3: Imagine if it had been a covert mission of the

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Speaker 3: Navy seals or something like that, right, yeah, they'll you know,

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Speaker 3: hit the Port of Aid and at two am or

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Speaker 3: what have you.

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Speaker 2: Oh, could have been the worst of scandals. People, you know,

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Speaker 2: US service people dying and everything. Oh my god, Okay,

557
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Speaker 2: we got other stuff on the way that's not so heavy.

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Speaker 2: Stay after saying is a tax on Tesla were just

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Speaker 2: a joke? Tim Waltz said that Republicans have no sense

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Speaker 2: of humor. I don't know, Tim, Millions of us laughed

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Speaker 2: our asses off on election nights. Yeah, so last week

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Speaker 2: when Tim Walls did that routine on stage, we played

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Speaker 2: it about you have the Tesla app. I put it

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Speaker 2: on my phone just to cheer myself up every day

565
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Speaker 2: and check and say, oh look it's down again. I

566
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Speaker 2: will be gone soon. Yay in the crowd share laughing

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Speaker 2: about the demise of an electric car company when climate

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Speaker 2: change is the number one threat to the world according

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Speaker 2: to you. Anyway, that aside, I thought this report on

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Speaker 2: Tesla on ABC last night was interesting.

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Speaker 1: After dozens of violent incidents against Tesla's across the country,

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Speaker 1: the FBI announcing it's launching a new task force comprised

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Speaker 1: of counter terrorism agents to investigate who's targeting dealerships, cars,

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Speaker 1: and charging stations, the FBI saying there's been at least

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Speaker 1: forty eight instances in more than nine states since January,

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Speaker 1: including arson, gunfire, and graffiti. The FBI now urging Americans

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Speaker 1: to be vigilant around Tesla locations.

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Speaker 3: How about fact, Wait a minute, I'm not visiting the

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Speaker 3: Sinaloa area of Mexico.

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Speaker 2: I'm walking by a Tesla dealer, right, which is you

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Speaker 2: next to other major car dealers. The FBI says, be

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Speaker 2: careful if you're near a Testel dealership. And we're just

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Speaker 2: gonna think, well, you know, that's the way life is.

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Speaker 2: That is something domestic terrorism being treated like it just yea,

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Speaker 2: kids are kids are angry trans men or angry transmen

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Speaker 2: or women or whichever direction it is. It doesn't matter.

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Speaker 3: Uh yeah, graffiti I see differently than fire bombing.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well it depends on how about if how about

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Speaker 2: if it's swastik is and uh, you know, threats still,

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Speaker 2: that's still still threats is different. Swastik is a stupid

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Speaker 2: It is stupid. You're an idiot. Saw this headline on CNN,

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Speaker 2: Canna Moom on the rise, the rise of Canna Moom's.

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Speaker 2: Oh boy, another trend. Wait, another cuccy name, another combining

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Speaker 2: a couple of words into one. We just friend that'll

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Speaker 2: be gone by Thursday. Mom says weed. Moms who say

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Speaker 2: weed helps them be better, moms helps me stay patient.

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Speaker 2: Oh cannabis moms. Hannah mom's wasn't it moms microdosing mushrooms.

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Speaker 2: Like three weeks ago, they moved on to the hippie lettuce.

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Speaker 2: You're smoking pot during the day. It makes you a

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Speaker 2: better mom, so you can stay patient. Well, I could

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Speaker 2: see it mellowing you out. I'm not sure it's a

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Speaker 2: great idea. I don't think it probably is. You might

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Speaker 2: want to get to the root causes of you're so

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Speaker 2: upset mom or dad with the kids. You hate to

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Speaker 2: smoke weed. Kids are much too hard today.

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Speaker 3: I hear every mother say the Rolling Stones, Mother's Little

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Speaker 3: help for nineteen sixty six.

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Speaker 2: I think, come on, ladies, put down the gonge and

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Speaker 2: pick up the something or other. I didn't finish that

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Speaker 2: one in events, But to be a parent. I was

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Speaker 2: driving by a park the other day. Did I already

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Speaker 2: say this on the air? I can't remember what I

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Speaker 2: say and what I think. I was driving by a

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Speaker 2: park the other day and thinking about when it was

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Speaker 2: when the kids were like seven and five or whatever

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Speaker 2: or younger. No, I had to do this, you know,

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Speaker 2: a beautiful day. I take him to the park and

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Speaker 2: they were so pleased, they were so pleased to be there.

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Speaker 2: I mean, just just a regular run of the mill.

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Speaker 2: It's got a swing set, a slide of nothing fancy

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Speaker 2: happened in here, and they were so damned happy with that.

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Speaker 2: Now now the level of driving, if I'm happiness, the

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Speaker 2: bar is much higher. Oh great, dad, a park that's

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Speaker 2: so late.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, So next hour, more science, new science. Did we

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Speaker 3: need more science on the divide between the sexes in sports?

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Speaker 3: The idea that dudes are competing in girls' sports and

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Speaker 3: saying it's okay because he has a wig on is

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Speaker 3: one of the stupidest ideas ever to infect the planet.

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Speaker 3: It needs to end like yesterday, Gavin Newsom, we.

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Speaker 2: Do four hours every day. If you miss a segment

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