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Speaker 1: we do lots of big breaking news this morning. Elon

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Speaker 1: the old regime. We also have new news regarding curesin cinema.

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Speaker 1: big news to start this morning. Yesterday evening around six pm,

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Speaker 1: one you just said. The reporter was just like, listen,

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Speaker 1: you said at one point that you weren't going to

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Speaker 1: do a patriot defense missile defense system, and now you are,

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Speaker 1: So why don't you just cut to the chase and

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Speaker 1: give him everything that he once And you know, the

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Speaker 1: reality is, there actually is an inconsistency in what Biden

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Speaker 1: is saying, because he, on the one hand, is saying

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Speaker 1: we'll do whatever we can. We're behind you one hundred percent,

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Speaker 1: will give you everything you need to be successful in

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Speaker 1: the battlefield, but we are also holding things back, and

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Speaker 1: in my opinion, for very good reason, to try to

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Speaker 1: avoid World War three. And so that kind of distance

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Speaker 1: between those to the real position and the stated position

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Speaker 1: was a constant source of kind of a little bit

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Speaker 1: underlying tensions. Right. It also bears explanation as to why

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Speaker 1: the patriots were not sent in the first place the

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Speaker 1: early days of the war, which is, there's a direct

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Speaker 1: acknowledgement by US officials that the Ukrainians do not use

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Speaker 1: a patriot defense missile system and if we did, we

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Speaker 1: would have to send US soldiers on the ground. And

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Speaker 1: so actually the administration has yet to answer a direct

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Speaker 1: question as to whether US troops will be deployed into

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Speaker 1: eastern Ukraine in order to operate these patriot missile defense systems,

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Speaker 1: or if the Patriots they will be somehow trained on it.

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Speaker 1: If that's the case, these will not be available on

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Speaker 1: the battlefield for months on end. This is not This

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Speaker 1: is a very highly sophisticated system which you can't just

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Speaker 1: simply deploy and use within a matter of days. And

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Speaker 1: unfortunately President's Zelenski continues to push that. It was one

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Speaker 1: of the key elements of his speech before Congress, much

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Speaker 1: of it, which you know, was kind of nice to

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Speaker 1: finally hear, was thank you to the American people for

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Speaker 1: bankrolling this war, especially because Congress is poised to send

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Speaker 1: another forty five billion I'm doing a monologue on that,

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Speaker 1: bringing our total to more than one hundred billion dollars

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Speaker 1: in aid within a single year. But he pushed in

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Speaker 1: that speech for additional Abrams tanks directly supplied from the

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Speaker 1: United States along with F sixteens. Let's take a listen

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Speaker 1: to that portion of his speech can perfectly operate American

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Speaker 1: tanks and plans themselves. That was the key moment from

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Speaker 1: President Zelenski's speech. It was only about a twenty two

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Speaker 1: minute address or so. Within the chamber, much of it

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Speaker 1: was you know, filled with you know, thank yous to

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Speaker 1: the American people, delivering a battleflag paralel Yeah, between the

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Speaker 1: US Battle of Saratoga and the US Battle of the Bulge.

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Speaker 1: But finally that was the major policy ask of the

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Speaker 1: entire speech, asking directly for US Abrams tanks for F sixteen,

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Speaker 1: so if we can bring the visit tan it together.

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Speaker 1: There are three things which Selenski sought to get out

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Speaker 1: of this. It wasn't just the Patriot missiles. He knew

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Speaker 1: that was getting him what we have here. And let's

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Speaker 1: go and throw the next one up there on the screen.

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Speaker 1: A four. Number one is he wants longer range missiles

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Speaker 1: that are capable of striking deep inside of Russia, so

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Speaker 1: called at camps. These are something that the administration has

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Speaker 1: refused point blank in order to give President Zelenski. Two

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Speaker 1: he wants those Abrams tanks. Three he wants the F sixteens. Four,

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Speaker 1: I guess is even more Patriot missile defense systems than

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Speaker 1: we're already giving here. So this was not simply a

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Speaker 1: thank you address by President Zelensky. This was really a

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Speaker 1: shopping trip on his behalf for his military as it's

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Speaker 1: stuck in the middle of this Christmas winter battle before

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Speaker 1: the fighting season opens up in March. And of course

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Speaker 1: the Russi relentlessly, we're shelling and bombing all of Ukraine

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Speaker 1: while he was here in the United States. Ukraine Kiev

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Speaker 1: specifically remains completely blacked out at all hours of the day,

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Speaker 1: on and off as they work to restore power. But

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Speaker 1: their energy infrastructure is in a very tough bhind their

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Speaker 1: reports of people in hospitals having to do like amputations

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Speaker 1: and heart surgeries literally off of a generator or in

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Speaker 1: some cases with no electricity atter all. And I mean

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Speaker 1: it's like twenty degrees in Kiev right now, twenty of

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Speaker 1: these It's a brutal, brutal winter. As I've said before,

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Speaker 1: for four months out of the year, the average temper

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Speaker 1: to the highest temp on average is like thirty five degrees.

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Speaker 1: So this is not a joke what the Ukrainian people

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Speaker 1: are going through right now. Hence why he's here trying

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Speaker 1: to get as much as he wants. And of course

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Speaker 1: all of this comes right now. Actually this morning, crystal

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Speaker 1: very likely that the Congress of the United States will

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Speaker 1: pass that one point seven trillion dollar spending bill of

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Speaker 1: which includes forty five extra billion dollars to Ukraine. But

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Speaker 1: clear here in his remarks that Zelenski's message is it's

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Speaker 1: not enough. We need even more. I mean right now,

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Speaker 1: he outright said that. At one point he said, quote,

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Speaker 1: we have artillery. Yes, thank you. Is it enough? Honestly

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Speaker 1: not really so, I mean it was, you know, it

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Speaker 1: was sort of like thank you for what you've done,

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Speaker 1: but also, pony up, I need a lot more. I

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Speaker 1: understand where he's coming from. But it also was quite

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Speaker 1: quite bold to be to be totally honestly, they had

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Speaker 1: quite bold and consistent with Remember there was that report

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Speaker 1: over the summer that Biden actually got really frustrated with

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Speaker 1: him and actually kind of yelled at him on the

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Speaker 1: phone because they had just given him some big aid package.

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Speaker 1: And then immediately Zelenski is on the phone like I

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Speaker 1: need more, I need more, I need war again. I

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Speaker 1: understand where he's coming from, as people are at war.

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Speaker 1: The speech was very much tailored. You know, he's he

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Speaker 1: has gone to great lengths whenever he has spoken to

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Speaker 1: you know, leaders of other nations and congressional bodies in

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Speaker 1: other countries, legislative bodies and other countries. He has gone

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Speaker 1: to great lengths to sort of tie the Ukrainian struggle

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Speaker 1: into whatever or their sort of previous national historical struggles

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Speaker 1: are so to make these historical connections. So, you know,

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Speaker 1: we talked about American independence, talked about World War Two.

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Speaker 1: All of that was sort of expected. He also really

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Speaker 1: situated it in terms of a sort of global fight

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Speaker 1: for freedom and democracy. So you're not just giving us cash,

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Speaker 1: you're investing in global democracy. And he also threw in there,

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Speaker 1: you know, some shots at Iran for people who are

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Speaker 1: like very you know, anti Iran and sort of hawkish

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Speaker 1: on that to try to win them over as well.

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Speaker 1: And some of the other context here is this is

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Speaker 1: in some ways a really good moment for Ukraine because

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Speaker 1: they have been succeeding on the battlefield. They've done far

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Speaker 1: better than anyone had thought. You know, they've really come

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Speaker 1: a long way. They're in strong position. Russia is really struggling,

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Speaker 1: and all of that is the case. But at the

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Speaker 1: same time, you have the brutal winter set in right now.

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Speaker 1: As Zager is talking about people, Zelenski talked about people

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Speaker 1: celebrating Christmas by candlelight, not because it's romantic but because

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Speaker 1: they have no power, so the toll of war, which

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Speaker 1: has long been very harsh on Ukrainians, is really harsh

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Speaker 1: across the entire country. Speculation that Patriot missile defense system

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Speaker 1: will actually be used to protect some of that energy

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Speaker 1: infrastructure to try to keep the lights and the heat

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Speaker 1: on for as many people as they possibly can. So

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Speaker 1: that's the Ukrainian domestic situation. You also have, of course,

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Speaker 1: in the US, Republicans set to take control of the

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Speaker 1: House and Kevin McCarthy, who was very likely to be

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Speaker 1: the next speaker, saying that you know, so longer going

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Speaker 1: to be a blank check. Now. I think ultimately the

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Speaker 1: Republicans are mostly going to fall in line with whatever

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Speaker 1: the Biden and the Democrats ultimately want. But there's probably

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Speaker 1: a little bit more nervousness on Zelensky's part that, hey,

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Speaker 1: I got to get these people on board and make

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Speaker 1: sure that I can continue to get these outflows that

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Speaker 1: I've been getting from the United States. And then you

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Speaker 1: also have the Europeans enduring a difficult winter with very

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Speaker 1: high energy prices, and polls both in Europe and here

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Speaker 1: in the US indicating that you know, people are still

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Speaker 1: very much with you Ukrainian cause, but some of that

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Speaker 1: support has softened and the level of prioritization has certainly softened.

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Speaker 1: So that's sort of the backdrop and the context and

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Speaker 1: why Zelenski decided now was the time to leave Ukraine

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Speaker 1: for the first time since the war started and come

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Speaker 1: to the US. And of course, as Saga is going

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Speaker 1: to lay out very explicitly in his monologue, which has

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Speaker 1: been overwhelmingly of course, the biggest backer and benefactor and

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Speaker 1: has really enabled the Ukrainians to get to where they

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Speaker 1: are at this point. Yeah, absolutely, I mean, there's just

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Speaker 1: no question about it. The military, I mean, he basically

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Speaker 1: even said it's true, and one of the journalists even said,

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Speaker 1: he's like, without America, he's like my country, my family

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Speaker 1: would be dead and my country be gone. It's actually true.

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Speaker 1: I would like to hear that a little bit more

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Speaker 1: often from their side, despite all their calls just for

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Speaker 1: even more and more. But I think it's an important

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Speaker 1: acknowledgment at the very least. At the same time, though,

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Speaker 1: in terms of the geopolitical picture, European support for the

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Speaker 1: way things are going right now, and I'm not talking

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Speaker 1: about the UK, more about France and Germany, it's a

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Speaker 1: very different situation. Let's throw this up there on the screen.

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Speaker 1: At the very same time that President Zelenski is visiting Washington,

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Speaker 1: Emmanuel Macron actually is calling on Europe to reduce the

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Speaker 1: reliance on US for security and specifically to provide some

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Speaker 1: sort of security guarantees to Russia. This was a huge

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Speaker 1: pushback from the Ukrainians and even from the UK and

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Speaker 1: from the United States. But essentially what he said, Crystal

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Speaker 1: is that look, for this war to come to an end,

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Speaker 1: we are going to have to provide some sort of

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Speaker 1: security guarantee to putin so that he does not feel

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Speaker 1: as if he will get invaded. Now that look was

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Speaker 1: met with tremendous outcry from the Ukrainians and from the

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Speaker 1: UK and the US, mostly because they're the most hawkish

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Speaker 1: and they don't want to provide any sort of security guarantee.

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Speaker 1: But you see a much more and a different, clear

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Speaker 1: eyed view from Macrone as to what an actual negotiated

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Speaker 1: settlement is going to look like. A negotiated settlement is

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Speaker 1: one in which Russia feels secure and it no longer

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Speaker 1: is going to continue its military operation against Ukraine, and

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Speaker 1: Ukraine feels secure and it no longer feels as if

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Speaker 1: it's going to get invaded or be waged war upon

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Speaker 1: by Russia. Right now, those two poles are very very

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Speaker 1: far apart. But Macrone is being chided in the West

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Speaker 1: for stating the obvious. He's also Macrone, if you look

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Speaker 1: at this is very interesting. He even says, mostly about

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Speaker 1: the United States. He's like, look, the point is is

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Speaker 1: that by mortgaging all of our defense costs and socializing

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Speaker 1: them in the US, we now no longer have nearly

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Speaker 1: as much say over our own European security affairs, of

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Speaker 1: which I would say, congratulations, mister president. Now, though you

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Speaker 1: should ship a lot more weapons to Ukraine so we

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Speaker 1: don't have to send this much, and then you can

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Speaker 1: have much more say over what's happening, considering it's on

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Speaker 1: York's continent in the first place. So there's a big

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Speaker 1: split in the Transatlantic atliance right now. This has been

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Speaker 1: the case basically since the beginning of this war, and

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Speaker 1: even before the war. I mean, Macrone was the most

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Speaker 1: aggressive in keeping lines of dialogue open directly with PUS

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Speaker 1: and trying to negotiate. He and Germany have long been

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Speaker 1: more in favor of diplomacy and talks. There's been this

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Speaker 1: kind of divide between the US and uk and France

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Speaker 1: and Germany. So his attempting to assert himself here a

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Speaker 1: bit more. Let me read you the quote exactly because

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Speaker 1: I think it's very interesting. He says, peaceful times will

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Speaker 1: require talks first and foremost for guarantees for Ukraine for

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Speaker 1: it's territorial integrity and its long term security, but also

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Speaker 1: for Russia as it will be party to an armistice

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Speaker 1: or peace treaty. He also went on to say, whoever

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Speaker 1: reproaches me for asserting myself on this topic should then

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Speaker 1: explain to me what they propose with the people who

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Speaker 1: refuse to prepare and work on this are proposing is

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Speaker 1: total war, a total war that will involve the whole continent. So,

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Speaker 1: I mean, it's pretty striking comments from Emmanuel Macrel. Yeah. Absolutely,

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Speaker 1: he's been consistent there since day one, and I do

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Speaker 1: believe that given the change. First of all, you know,

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Speaker 1: why is Congress passing this forty five billion It's because

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Speaker 1: they know that it's very likely to be the last one.

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Speaker 1: Zelenski actually made a lot of appeals here. It's like

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Speaker 1: I understand bi cameral bipartisan support is necessary to us.

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Speaker 1: But we also need to consider that things are changing here.

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Speaker 1: Our domestic populaces want to continue giving a blank check

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Speaker 1: to Ukraine. Is well below fifty percent now at this point,

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Speaker 1: it was at some ninety percent at the very beginning

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Speaker 1: of the war. On top of that, how are the

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Speaker 1: Russians responding? As much as the Russian economy is a disaster,

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Speaker 1: as much as they have been humiliated on the battlefield,

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Speaker 1: Russia is not back and down in any way. They've

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Speaker 1: been shelling the hell out of Ukraine, including with missiles now,

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Speaker 1: for a long time. And actually, in response to Zelenski's visit,

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Speaker 1: let's put this up there on the screen, which is

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Speaker 1: they have are now announcing a thirty percent increase in

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Speaker 1: the entire size of their armed forces, bringing their standing

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Speaker 1: army to one point five million combat personnel from one

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Speaker 1: point one to five million, in addition to a fifteen

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Speaker 1: billion dollar increase in their annual military budget. So whatever

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Speaker 1: remaining money that they have left, they are throwing it

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Speaker 1: straight into the military. No sign of backing down whatsoever.

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Speaker 1: Their new commander is very much dedicated to going and

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Speaker 1: attacking the center of gravity, which is the Ukrainian's will

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Speaker 1: to resist as in taking down the energy infrastructure of

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Speaker 1: the entire country. And if you see any sort of

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Speaker 1: combined offensive in the winter or after the winter, it's

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Speaker 1: going to entail probably a much more brutal campaign than

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Speaker 1: even what we saw in some of these liberated cities.

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Speaker 1: So we're in for I think, a tough winter, both

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Speaker 1: for the Ukrainians and also in terms of the geopolitical situation.

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Speaker 1: Things are changing fast. We are remember it's only been

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Speaker 1: three hundred days. We should always try and put things

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Speaker 1: in the context of history. Imagine trying to guess out

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Speaker 1: the outlook of World War two. Three hundred days into

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Speaker 1: the war. You'd be like, oh, Hitler is going to win.

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Speaker 1: You know, Oh, France and Germany you're gone the entire

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Speaker 1: of the entire Phony war, and you know, oh, Norway.

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Speaker 1: It's like, you can convince yourself of a lot of things.

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Speaker 1: All the way up until the nineteen seven the Germans

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Speaker 1: thought and probably correctly, that they were going to win

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Speaker 1: the First World War. So things can turn on a dime. Things,

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Speaker 1: These things take a long time to go back to

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Speaker 1: the Civil War, I can tell you the same thing.

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Speaker 1: The point is is that nobody knows where things are

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Speaker 1: headed all we see is a rocky future ahead of us.

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Speaker 1: I talk to our friend Jegar about the domestic political

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Speaker 1: situation in Russia and a couple things that he suggested

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Speaker 1: to me. One is, and there was some talk from

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Speaker 1: the Kremlin about this. There's kind of an expectation there

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Speaker 1: may be another draft. They recognize they need to increase

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Speaker 1: their armed forces yet again, and you know, in some

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Speaker 1: ways the conscription process the last time around was kind

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Speaker 1: of a disaster for them. On the other hand, it's

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Speaker 1: not like there's been a mass revolt that has brought

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Speaker 1: down the regime, so you know, they have some level

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Speaker 1: of complacency and you know, support among a good portion

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Speaker 1: of the Russian public. The other piece, though, that he

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Speaker 1: pointed out to me is just like here you have

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Speaker 1: people who are high placed and influential in Russian society

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Speaker 1: who are making a lot of bank off of this war,

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Speaker 1: and that creates a perpetuating process of its own, a

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Speaker 1: dynamic that we are very familiar with here as well.

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Speaker 1: So keep in mind some of those background factors going

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Speaker 1: on in Russia from the domestic political situation as well.

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Speaker 1: One of our favorite segments here YouTuber Andrew Callahan appeared

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Speaker 1: on Don Lemon's show Over at CNN to promote a

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Speaker 1: new documentary which looks really interesting, and he really triggered

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Speaker 1: Don Lemon when he commented on the cable news business model.

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Speaker 1: Let's take a listen. The movie's not just about like

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Speaker 1: the Capitol, right and all that. It's also about like

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Speaker 1: media echo chambers, you know what I mean, and like

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Speaker 1: the dangers of the twenty four hour news cycle, and

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Speaker 1: how I think mainstream media like Fox and even CNN

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Speaker 1: like competes for views by running constant twenty four hour

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Speaker 1: news cycles based upon fear, division, outrage, and panic, probably

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Speaker 1: to sell ads. So it's not just the capital, right. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I'm not exactly sure. First of all, I don't agree

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Speaker 1: with what you're saying, but I'm not exactly sure of

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Speaker 1: how that played into people going into the Capitol and

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Speaker 1: rioting on January sixth. There's nothing fake about CNN. Oh,

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Speaker 1: I'm not saying like fake news. I'm just saying ramping

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Speaker 1: people up and increasing division during that period of time,

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Speaker 1: just watching people kind of fall down the rabbit hole

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Speaker 1: and be pushed into action, and like just yeah, falling

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Speaker 1: down the conspiracy rabbit hol Wow. He really triggered him

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Speaker 1: there in the most Don Lemon way possible. I don't

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Speaker 1: necessarily agree. And look, what you're watching is the lack

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Speaker 1: of ability to grapple with what their job actually is.

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Speaker 1: Andrew has impegged properly. Their job is to gin people

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Speaker 1: up so that they stay tuned in between the ad breaks.

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Speaker 1: That's it. That's all you're supposed to do. The ad

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Speaker 1: breaks are the only business. The actual news is just secondary.

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Speaker 1: It's what gets people glued to the screen. And so

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Speaker 1: he was like, look, you and Fox are both ginning

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Speaker 1: people up, which causes people to go down rabbit holes.

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Speaker 1: You do it for business purposes, and that has real

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Speaker 1: world consequences in our politics, of which resulted in January

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Speaker 1: sixth I really appreciate him not just doing the typical

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Speaker 1: like Fox News doing this. You know they're the only ones,

747
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Speaker 1: because yeah, look of course they are, but it's everybody.

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Speaker 1: The whole point is that it's an entire system which

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Speaker 1: is designed to gin up hate against others and which

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Speaker 1: can have devastating consequences then in the real world. And look,

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Speaker 1: clearly Donna didn't like that very much, and he doesn't

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Speaker 1: want to take any responsibility for his own role over

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Speaker 1: the last what four years, five years or whatever in

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Speaker 1: the Trump era of doing the exact same thing that

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Speaker 1: he accuses Fox of doing every single night. Crystal. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and they want to say, oh, we're not as bad

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Speaker 1: as Fox, We're not as bad as Oaan, We're not

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Speaker 1: as bad as like whoever. But you know, ultimately, CNN, MSNBC,

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Speaker 1: all of them are kind of poison. They're all bad

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Speaker 1: for the country. And so you know, Andrew, who is

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Speaker 1: very interesting creator, a really strong creator, actually encourage you

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Speaker 1: to check out his YouTube channel. He kind of has

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Speaker 1: them dead to rights here. And at the beginning of

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Speaker 1: the segment, they set it up like, oh, you know,

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Speaker 1: this is all about January six this new documentary about

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Speaker 1: January sixth, and he clearly takes issue with that, and

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Speaker 1: it's like, well, you're kind of missing some of the

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Speaker 1: point here, because you may want to use this to

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Speaker 1: just exclusively serve the narratives that you're interested in, but

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Speaker 1: there was actually a broader point here about the news

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Speaker 1: media's role in this and the divisiveness of that and

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Speaker 1: the problem with the twenty four hour news cycle and

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Speaker 1: serving your advertisers and keeople, keeping people glued to the

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Speaker 1: screen and he and Caitlyn Collins both get very uncomfortable

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Speaker 1: with that part of the conversation immediately try to shut

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Speaker 1: it down and move back to the points that they

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Speaker 1: are comfortable opening on. Yeah, I mean, I think one

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Speaker 1: of the I encourage people to watch this trailer and

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Speaker 1: check out the doc whenever it's out. I also washed

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Speaker 1: into the storm the QAnon documentary, and I just came

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Speaker 1: away with that with like a much deeper understanding of like, wow,

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00:40:10,120 --> 00:40:12,799
Speaker 1: like this stuff is real. You know, people really can

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Speaker 1: just lose themselves entirely in this And it's a broader

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Speaker 1: societal problem of which the media is complicit in. But

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Speaker 1: there's also many other structural factors, and unfortunately, the Don

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Speaker 1: Lemons of the world just simply don't want a question,

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Speaker 1: not even their own complicity, but what leads to society

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Speaker 1: to like get to this point where people are so

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Speaker 1: angry that they're willing to willing to storm the capital

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Speaker 1: based on the word of Donald J. Trump. That's a

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Speaker 1: really interesting question if you want to look into it.

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Speaker 1: It doesn't have to be just you know, like about

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Speaker 1: other people being bad, but you know, whenever you have

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Speaker 1: the business model that they do well, that really is

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Speaker 1: the only one dimensional view that you're allowed to take.

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Speaker 1: So I really appreciated his appearance on CNN and kind

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Speaker 1: of setting the record straight. I also love that he

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Speaker 1: is just very He's like, yo, come on, He's like,

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Speaker 1: that's what you guys are willing to do here in

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Speaker 1: his own very Andrew way. It was great. The other

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Speaker 1: thing that I enjoyed about this exchange is it was

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Speaker 1: sort of like two worlds colliding. You know, they don't

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Speaker 1: quite know what to do with him, and it's it

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Speaker 1: is like a traditional media in new independent media, like

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Speaker 1: being oil and water. Effectively, in this interview, they're engaged

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Speaker 1: in two very different processes and engaged in two very

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Speaker 1: different activities. So it's kind of funny to see those

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Speaker 1: two worlds collide and Lemon and Caitlin Collins really having

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Speaker 1: no idea what to do with him. All right, Tzacer,

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Speaker 1: we're looking at well. December sixteenth is passed a few

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Speaker 1: days ago. You probably didn't really think too much about it,

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Speaker 1: but in reality, it was actually a very important date

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Speaker 1: for those interested in the UFO topic. As my friend

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Speaker 1: Jeremy Corbel reminded me, it's five years to the day

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Speaker 1: since the New York Times first published one of the

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Speaker 1: most extraordinary admissions of our lifetime. UFOs or UAPs, whatever

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Speaker 1: they want to call them, they're their video and credible

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Speaker 1: accounts of seeing them inside the Pentagon. There's been, of course,

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Speaker 1: fierce debate on the UFO topics since the publication of

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Speaker 1: that article. Are the pilots diluted? Was it equipment malfunction?

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Speaker 1: Was it a failure? Does it have a terrestrial explanation

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Speaker 1: like China or Russia? Is it the US government? The point, though,

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Speaker 1: is that since the publication of that article, a genuine

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Speaker 1: sea change has occurred here in Washington, where public pressure

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Speaker 1: and an inside campaign by pissed off Navy and Air

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Speaker 1: Force aviators has forced the issue so far forward that

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Speaker 1: we know more today than arguably at any time since

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Speaker 1: the Roswell incident in nineteen forty seven. However, as always

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Speaker 1: with the UFO topic, we have our chief foe in

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Speaker 1: trying to learn more about possibly one of the most

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Speaker 1: important things facing humanity today. Almost since the day of Roswell,

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Speaker 1: the Pentagon, through its initial Project Bluebook and many other

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Speaker 1: secret programs, has done it's best to cover up UFO

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Speaker 1: information from the American public, smearing pilots believers and sighters,

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Speaker 1: obfuscating evidence, spinning the institutional media to direct the interest

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Speaker 1: in the topic towards things that they can at least control,

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Speaker 1: or at the very least pushed the public away from curiosity.

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Speaker 1: Since the publication of that Time's article, their hand has

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Speaker 1: now been forced by Congress. Congress, of course, had its

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Speaker 1: interest piqued in what the Pentagon was hiding, and has

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Speaker 1: since mandated the release of two separate reports from the

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Speaker 1: Pentagon asking what it knows about UFOs. Those reports themselves

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Speaker 1: have been shrouded in misdirection and in media campaigns, but

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Speaker 1: bears reviewing them both on its face. The first was

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Speaker 1: extraordinary because the Pentagon basically admitted and at least eighteen

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Speaker 1: known instances UFOs demonstrated in advanced technology unknown to human science,

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Speaker 1: that they have zero information to explain it at all.

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Speaker 1: But of course that's not how the Pentagon spun it.

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Speaker 1: They went their pet outlets at the New York Times

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Speaker 1: got the headline that they wanted. Government report finds no

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Speaker 1: evidence the UFOs were alien spacecraft, they've blared, which was

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Speaker 1: then picked up by several outlets. What they failed to

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Speaker 1: mention is that they also found no evidence for or against.

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Speaker 1: They just didn't find anything that seems pretty important to

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Speaker 1: point out. Now. Despite their machinations, they failed again and

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Speaker 1: Congress demanded even more, resulting in another report that actually

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Speaker 1: dropped this October. Again. The Times gained early access to

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Speaker 1: this classified document and they spun it in the way

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Speaker 1: that the Pentagon wanted. Quote many military UFO reports are

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Speaker 1: just foreign spying or airborne trash that it reads revealing

861
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Speaker 1: a few couple of insane things. Number one, apparently Chinese

862
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Speaker 1: made drones are frequently flying over US airspace and US

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Speaker 1: nuclear facilities all the time. That is crazy on its own.

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Speaker 1: It also offered some possible terrestrial explanations for the original

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Speaker 1: twenty seventeen videos, but furthermore, it still admitted some pretty

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Speaker 1: extraordinary things. Number one. Many UFO sidings have conventional and

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Speaker 1: even foreign spying explanations, which but many don't have any

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Speaker 1: at all. And as I wrote at the time, quote

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Speaker 1: nobody in the UFO community has ever disputed many of

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Speaker 1: these incidents have conventional explanations. They've always been focused on

871
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Speaker 1: the point one percent, which are fantastic mysteries. And the

872
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Speaker 1: Pentagon wants this narrative out there, so they don't face

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Speaker 1: public and or congressional pressure as always though they are

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Speaker 1: masters of the g That's why when the entire discourse

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Speaker 1: was on fire about Elon banning journalists and whether posting

876
00:45:05,719 --> 00:45:09,800
Speaker 1: publicly available flight data is docsing, another amazing event happened

877
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Speaker 1: right here in Washington that nobody's noticing. The Pentagon convened

878
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Speaker 1: a handpicked list of journalists and decided to talk just

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Speaker 1: a little, only for twenty minutes or so about the

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Speaker 1: UFOs on the record, what is known or not. I

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Speaker 1: went through that transcript, and I was astounded by some

882
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Speaker 1: of the admissions. First, is this a question poised to

883
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Speaker 1: the new head of the Pentagon UFO task Force, Does

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Speaker 1: any of the incidents that you're looking at represent a

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Speaker 1: threat to US national security? His response was an unequivocal yes.

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Speaker 1: Next question. The Pentagon, then, is also not just reviewing

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Speaker 1: one hundred and forty four originally described incidents that it

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Speaker 1: can explain. It now has quote several hundred that don't

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Speaker 1: bear any human or known explanation under review. That is

890
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Speaker 1: also a new definition of UAP or UFO. The Pentagon

891
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Speaker 1: is expanding its search into past incidents to even include

892
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Speaker 1: quote submerged in trans medium objects which fly or move underwater.

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Speaker 1: And then, finally, my personal favorite, it's an answer on

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Speaker 1: the question of whether the Pentagon has any evidence of

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Speaker 1: alien life or evidence from past crash landings. The new

896
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Speaker 1: head hedged his answer very carefully, saying, quote, in terms

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Speaker 1: of holdings that I have seen, holdings that we have

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Speaker 1: gone through, I have not yet seen anything in those

899
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Speaker 1: holdings to date that would suggest there has been an

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Speaker 1: alien visitation or an alien crash. Note the operative word

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Speaker 1: that I have seen. Also by definition, what did he

902
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Speaker 1: just admit there are holdings of what kind? He does

903
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Speaker 1: not elaborate. He even admitted there are quote many compartmented

904
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Speaker 1: programs that this department has had over the years that

905
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Speaker 1: are charged with quote such holdings. It's extraordinary stuff here.

906
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Speaker 1: And to finalize, what does the media go with you

907
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Speaker 1: already know headline from the Washington Post, no alien life

908
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Speaker 1: discovered on Earth. Pentagon says it's almost comical at this

909
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Speaker 1: point they say they have no evidence for it, so

910
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Speaker 1: now against it either. The truth is we just don't know.

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Speaker 1: All We're left with right now questions mysteries, Well we

912
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Speaker 1: ever really know the answer? Probably not honestly, But you've

913
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Speaker 1: got to keep pressing. It's just too interesting of a

914
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Speaker 1: thing to let go. This is actually our last full

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Speaker 1: show of the year. We are not going to leave

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Speaker 1: you guys high and dry. That we have plenty of

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Speaker 1: content that will be uploading, including some really fun clips

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919
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Speaker 1: looks at the year that we've been recording and saving

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Speaker 1: up so that Sager and I can take next week off,

921
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Speaker 1: which it's good for us to reset our brain sometimes

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Speaker 1: and think bigger pictures. They're sing. We appreciate you guys

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Speaker 1: giving us the opportunity to do that. But one thing

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Speaker 1: I wanted to mention, given that this final full show

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Speaker 1: of the year has been focused a lot on Ukraine,

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Speaker 1: is you know, this has been one of the big

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Speaker 1: topics has to find the year, and we've been really

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Speaker 1: grateful to you guys for trusting us to sort through

929
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Speaker 1: what is a very complex and difficult and nuanced and

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00:47:56,200 --> 00:47:59,920
Speaker 1: hard to understand and hard to get accurate information on situation.

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Speaker 1: And in fact, one of the things we learned from

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Speaker 1: at the end of the year, our brand, yeah, is

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Speaker 1: right after Russia invaded Ukraine, and so I just wanted

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Speaker 1: making this incredible year of growth and challenge. Thank you

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Speaker 1: for trusting us with some really challenging news topics that

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Speaker 1: we've done our very best to try to sort through.

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Speaker 1: And we've got big plans for the new year, some

941
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Speaker 1: of which are already coming into fruition. So we are

942
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Speaker 1: endlessly grateful to you all for having our backs, for

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Speaker 1: believing in what we're doing here, for supporting breaking points,

944
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Speaker 1: for welcoming Ryan and Emily into the family, and all

945
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Speaker 1: of our great partners. Because we really enjoy doing this.

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Speaker 1: We don't take it for granted, and we're excited for

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Speaker 1: what the new year is ultimately going to bring. Absolutely,

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Speaker 1: thank you, especially the premium members and all those who've

949
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Speaker 1: helped us out over the last couple of years. It's

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Speaker 1: just been amazing. It's going to be a fun ride, guys.

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Speaker 1: Twenty twenty four, the cycle it all starts next year.

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Speaker 1: We're gearing up. We're ready for it. If you can

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Speaker 1: help us out link in the description. Other than that,

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Speaker 1: happy what is it? Happy, Kwanza, Hanukkah, and Christmas did

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Speaker 1: I cover all my bases. I think there's probably a

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Speaker 1: few more that are out there. Wickan whatever, Happy holidays,

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Speaker 1: Happy New Year, many blessings to you and yours. Enjoy

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Speaker 1: the time, take some time, don't listen to Sagar, eat

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Speaker 1: what you want, and don't eat what you want, and

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Speaker 1: we will see you guys back here in the new year.