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Speaker 1: Ladies and gentlemen, Welcome back to another edition of the
Speaker 1: Friday Egg Podcast. Today I am joined by Brendan Porath
Speaker 1: of esp Nation and Sean Martin of the PGA Tour
Speaker 1: to break down this week's Open Championship. Welcome on, guys, Andy,
Speaker 1: Am I having us back?
Speaker 4: Am I your first international guest in Friday history?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Sean Martin coming from Live on the ground. But now
Speaker 1: we've had international guests. We've had Mike Clayton from Australia.
Speaker 1: All right, that's Richie rams Richie Ramsey from from Scotland.
Speaker 3: Yeah. So nice to you to be able to get
Speaker 3: out of an airport terminal for this one.
Speaker 4: Sure, yeah, you know, have it fit you in. I've
Speaker 4: been here for nine days so I'm well Scottish life,
Speaker 4: ask me anything.
Speaker 1: So yeah, you're you're respecting audio, you know this is
Speaker 1: this is a rare appearance for you, not in an
Speaker 1: either a media center or airport.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I hate the.
Speaker 4: Sound on my own voice, so I haven't listened back
Speaker 4: to the shinnacog one, but I definitely kind of want
Speaker 4: to just to hear what that that airport sounded like
Speaker 4: in that podcast.
Speaker 3: Yeah, only psychotic thinge people listen to the podcasts they're
Speaker 3: on or a video.
Speaker 4: I don't know how people do it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you have to have a be psychotic.
Speaker 1: So Sean, how is it as baked out as everybody's saying?
Speaker 1: What to give us some reporting from the ground? What
Speaker 1: can you tell us it is?
Speaker 4: And we got some little sprinkles this morning, so I
Speaker 4: think and Tiger kind of talked about that we're we're
Speaker 4: not quite at the point where we were. There was
Speaker 4: talk of like DJ driving it into the burn on eighteen,
Speaker 4: which is four hundred and fifty yards, but you're still
Speaker 4: you're getting guys talking about hitting three three thirty. I
Speaker 4: mean it's rolling outever, I mean it's gonna be the
Speaker 4: story of this open. There should be if you're having
Speaker 4: your open bingo or open drinking game. I think hoy
Speaker 4: Lake or Liverpool definitely has to feature prominently on the board.
Speaker 4: There's gonna be tons of comparisons to that, A lot
Speaker 4: of hope for people who want to see Tiger Wayne
Speaker 4: that he can kind of repeat that performance, and so
Speaker 4: there are a lot of similarities there. I think that
Speaker 4: you can see a lot of irons off the t's.
Speaker 4: You might see you guys not hit driver at all
Speaker 4: for the week. Definitely a lot depends on the wind too.
Speaker 4: Of sharing the train home with a caddy, and he
Speaker 4: was talking about how downwin the Paul just it does
Speaker 4: launch once it hits the faraway, but really, if you're
Speaker 4: into even a little bit of wind, it really holds
Speaker 4: it up pretty well and it doesn't roll nearly as much.
Speaker 4: And I don't have my exact wind gauge on me,
Speaker 4: but I feel like walking around some days in the
Speaker 4: morning and the afternoon, the wind does switching up where
Speaker 4: holes can play down win in the morning and into
Speaker 4: win in the afternoon. So it's just there's a lot
Speaker 4: of variables. Of players are always are of the Open Championship,
Speaker 4: and I think that's definitely gonna be part of it
Speaker 4: this week.
Speaker 1: Yeah, the weather looks pretty good for the week, so
Speaker 1: it doesn't I mean, from what I've seen, it doesn't
Speaker 1: look like there's going to be one of those crazy
Speaker 1: Open Championship days yet, but with you know, pretty good
Speaker 1: weather conditions, it you might escape that possibility of one
Speaker 1: side of a draw getting like an unbelievably huge advantage
Speaker 1: over the other side.
Speaker 4: Yeah, we don't have a lot of win in the forecast.
Speaker 4: I think like fifteen miles an hours the most, and
Speaker 4: then Friday a little like occasional rain as they put
Speaker 4: it in the mornings about the extent of the rain.
Speaker 4: So it's gonna be good for ice cream sales, it's
Speaker 4: gonna be good for equity of the draw, so it
Speaker 4: should be a pretty good, well runded Open Championship.
Speaker 1: So Brendan, what are you what are you watching for?
Speaker 1: Do you have any random facts you remember from the
Speaker 1: last time they open was at Carnoustie.
Speaker 3: Also, huh, I don't know. I'm trying to think you
Speaker 3: want like random drama or random beefs. I think the
Speaker 3: thing I loved most about the last time at carnelis
Speaker 3: do is Rory's outfit. You know, I got the scripting,
Speaker 3: but he was, you know, amateur the time. He's doing
Speaker 3: the deep V neck button up cardigan, you know, with
Speaker 3: the floppy hair. It's just interesting. To think about how
Speaker 3: far we've come in only eleven years and now he's
Speaker 3: kind of the ripped guy and the the Nike blade
Speaker 3: collars and the assortment of athletic gear.
Speaker 1: That was your favorite version of Rory Fat Rory.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was like he was like pudgy Rory, kind
Speaker 3: of on his way out of fat Rory. Really a
Speaker 3: nice medium, happy medium there so hadn't quite hadn't quite
Speaker 3: you know, he hadn't turned pro yet and made the
Speaker 3: money to kind of plump up, you know. It was
Speaker 3: just kind of innocent, pudgy, amateur Rory.
Speaker 1: So while we're talking about Rory, what do you guys think,
Speaker 1: do you think he's got got majors? And I mean,
Speaker 1: is the putter that big of a problem?
Speaker 4: I don't know, man, I still have a little bitk
Speaker 4: was so jarring. I mean, he was out the USA
Speaker 4: was basically over for him at like am Thursday. We
Speaker 4: were all riding that high of he wins at bay
Speaker 4: Hill and he plays the fund group with the Masters
Speaker 4: and obviously very heartbreaking loss, but uh had played well
Speaker 4: for the most part and then just comes out at
Speaker 4: Chinnacock and it's just I mean, was he nine over
Speaker 4: after nine ten over after ten, it was he was jarring,
Speaker 4: and you know, I mean the Rory story is always
Speaker 4: always plays well in soft conditions, and I just feel
Speaker 4: like that exacerbated that storyline because it was firm as
Speaker 4: fast and it was a very early ejection that I
Speaker 4: just I can't recover from it yet, and I can't
Speaker 4: quite take him this week.
Speaker 1: His his putter at Travelers now two years in a
Speaker 1: row has been insane how poor it has been. It
Speaker 1: must be something about those greens, because like, what was
Speaker 1: it last year he went through three putter changes in
Speaker 1: a week, and then this year he was I think
Speaker 1: seventy second in strokes gain putting for the week, and
Speaker 1: you know he's by far, like I think he was
Speaker 1: three shots clear the next person in strokes gain tee
Speaker 1: to green. So I don't know, it's it's just a
Speaker 1: matter everything kind of coming together. But if he puts
Speaker 1: field average, he's going to be in the top five,
Speaker 1: you know, yep, it's just getting him to put field average.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know. I guess my discussion of his
Speaker 3: sweater brought us here, But yeah, I just think he's
Speaker 3: kind of a I don't know, not a bit player.
Speaker 3: He never is, but he's just like a part of
Speaker 3: the crowd this week, I would say, I'm not like
Speaker 3: I think, you know, obviously there's always he's one of
Speaker 3: the top ten players in the world, there's always the
Speaker 3: potential for him to contend.
Speaker 5: I just I don't know that he's putting well enough.
Speaker 3: He seems like he's working through a lot of different
Speaker 3: things and trying to go back to a there's like
Speaker 3: more natural swaying. He talks about oh nine, you know
Speaker 3: fat Rory Sway. You know, things aren't always bad when
Speaker 3: he got some extra weight on you. So yeah, it
Speaker 3: seems like he's just kind of trying to figure out
Speaker 3: some things. So I think he's just kind of part
Speaker 3: of a larger group that's worth talking. Maybe maybe not
Speaker 3: sticking out as much as he does that you know,
Speaker 3: the Masters where we have that natural storyline we always
Speaker 3: want to talk about and some of the others.
Speaker 1: What storyline are you guys watching, Like, what storyline are
Speaker 1: you buying most this week? Which is your favorite one?
Speaker 3: Go ahead?
Speaker 4: Sol non Hideki division. I do love that that Hideki
Speaker 4: Tiger Rueknox pairing. I'm all in on Russell Knox. The
Speaker 4: last Scottish win in the Open came at Carnoustie in
Speaker 4: nineteen ninety nine. Two of the last three Scottish winners
Speaker 4: were at Carnoustie. I just think a guy who is
Speaker 4: playing very well, is on a good run of form,
Speaker 4: he hits it dead straight and the course is going
Speaker 4: to play short. I just have high hopes for Rude Knox.
Speaker 4: I know it's not like one of the major storylines.
Speaker 4: We're getting pretty off topic here. We're gonna start talking
Speaker 4: about probably the Eastern Amateur next or something. But I'm
Speaker 4: in on that, and I think I've been on Brooks.
Speaker 4: I think, I mean Shinnacock was firm and fast, and
Speaker 4: I think winning at Shinnacock. I don't know that Brooks
Speaker 4: ever doubted his ability, is full of confidence, but I
Speaker 4: think winning at Shinnecock I think showed all of us
Speaker 4: a lot, and I would think showed him a lot
Speaker 4: too that I mean, he already knew he could play majors.
Speaker 4: It's now eleven straight majors, where twenty first are better.
Speaker 4: But I mean, I feel like, if it's really firm,
Speaker 4: really fast, we saw what Brooks did at Shinnacock, I
Speaker 4: think it's gonna be all about iron and play, and
Speaker 4: I think, you know, I think Brooks is a name
Speaker 4: to watch, and if he did, that'd be three majors.
Speaker 1: I feel like the firm conditions might mitigate distance a little.
Speaker 1: In the distance advantage, I think you'll see. I mean,
Speaker 1: guy like Zach Johnson all of a sudden has a chance.
Speaker 1: I love Molinari with the way he's playing. But what
Speaker 1: about Hideki No no top ten since Hawaii.
Speaker 4: Yeah, Caddy changed this week apparently too. According to my
Speaker 4: friends in the Japanese media, it's a little shake up
Speaker 4: in Campadecki trying to mix things up a little bit.
Speaker 4: I don't know, I you know, he had the heartbreaking
Speaker 4: loss of the PGA. Any of the wrist injury risk
Speaker 4: injuries are hard to come back from, shaking confidence from
Speaker 4: the PGA, and I could see, I could just see,
Speaker 4: you know. It's just it's been a dark time in
Speaker 4: Hideki land. But I do. I like Molinari a lot
Speaker 4: and knocks. Both those guys hated so dead straight, but
Speaker 4: as firm as is too. Any sidesman on the ball
Speaker 4: and the ball's gonna bounce anywhere. So Rue and Francesco
Speaker 4: to the hottest players in the world, and really to
Speaker 4: the straightest players in the world, so I'm also all
Speaker 4: in on those picks.
Speaker 3: I mean, I think the biggest story, you know we're
Speaker 3: sitting here on Tuesday, is gonna be the course and
Speaker 3: is the course. And it's hard to say that with
Speaker 3: Tiger in the field too, but I just I think,
Speaker 3: like in all the lead up days, this is just
Speaker 3: so extreme and different from what we're used to, even
Speaker 3: for the Open and and like I hate to play
Speaker 3: into the line of baked out. Baked out. Yeah, you're
Speaker 3: gonna hear that every three minutes, and you're gonna hear
Speaker 3: every synonym for it used throughout the weekend.
Speaker 5: I just I'm like fast by it.
Speaker 3: I'm fascinated by seeing the best in the world try
Speaker 3: and play it, figure out how to play it. Seems
Speaker 3: like we're getting. For me, like the biggest storyline is
Speaker 3: that there seems to be a really clear cut, like
Speaker 3: divergence of strategies. We hear Rory and DJ and Ron
Speaker 3: and some of these other big hitters saying like, well,
Speaker 3: it's burned out. The burned out effect for them is
Speaker 3: that the rough is now whispy and they could they
Speaker 3: feel like they can play out of it. That may
Speaker 3: be kind of a I don't know, a poor strategy,
Speaker 3: but that's the way they're thinking. So they're gonna vomit
Speaker 3: over everything, and and they're not worried about missing, you know,
Speaker 3: the fairway. You know, of course there are different parts
Speaker 3: of missing miss fairways that are worse than others, but
Speaker 3: they just feel like the burned outness of it has
Speaker 3: has made it more of a bomber's a bomber's paradise,
Speaker 3: I guess this week. And then there's the other other
Speaker 3: track of you know, strategy, like a speed saying I'm
Speaker 3: just gonna you know, growler thinks I can just hit
Speaker 3: floor irons all day, and you know, I just really
Speaker 3: find that so fascinating. We don't we don't see this.
Speaker 3: We don't see a course deliberately like this so often
Speaker 3: and the way it's really and there seems to be
Speaker 3: no uniform response to how to play it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think Carnousti's been known as the toughest Open
Speaker 1: Championship course for a long time, one of the toughest
Speaker 1: venues in all of golf in it and it kind
Speaker 1: of is that way because of how narrow it is.
Speaker 1: But you know, with the distance thing in it being
Speaker 1: thinner in the in the wispy long stuff that actually
Speaker 1: might you know, take some of the teeth out of
Speaker 1: the the golf course where I you know, remember growing
Speaker 1: up watching at Carneuci like ninety nine, like yeah, that
Speaker 1: if you missed the fairway was just dead. And and
Speaker 1: if it's a little bit thinner and it's going to
Speaker 1: be a little more unpredictable. But at the end of
Speaker 1: the day, I think when you've got a wedge in
Speaker 1: your hand, is going to I mean, it's a lot
Speaker 1: less you know, challenging, and it's the longest golf course
Speaker 1: in the open rod to and obviously the firm conditions
Speaker 1: will make it play much much much shorter. So I mean,
Speaker 1: I imagine with the with what I've been seeing, the course
Speaker 1: is you know, seventy four hundred yards probably playing sixty
Speaker 1: eight sixty seven hundred yards and if you you know,
Speaker 1: adjusted it for how firm and fast it is, right Sean, Yeah.
Speaker 4: The thing that kind of helps with the whole bomb
Speaker 4: and Gouge mentality is that the greens are very green.
Speaker 4: They've kept them very healthy. You know, I think we
Speaker 4: saw St. Andrews in twenty fifteen. What happens if they
Speaker 4: get the greens a little too speedy, then all of
Speaker 4: a sudden, you know, twenty twenty five miles wind ghost
Speaker 4: comes and which isn't too uncommon here and you got
Speaker 4: to stop play. So that'll take out some of the
Speaker 4: necessity to play to angles. But I talked to Russell today,
Speaker 4: Russell Knox, and he said he thinks that angles are
Speaker 4: going to be big this week, and that Carnousti, you know,
Speaker 4: walking around today, it's the way it's bunkered. There's always
Speaker 4: seems to be two A lot of times there's two
Speaker 4: sets of bunkers that you might be able to carry one,
Speaker 4: but then you're bringing the other one into play, and
Speaker 4: guys might be able to do what Speed did last year,
Speaker 4: where you're intentionally aiming at the rough because you know,
Speaker 4: the rough is maybe a quarter shot penalty, maybe even less,
Speaker 4: while as a pop bunker, especially here where they seem
Speaker 4: to be the deepest pop bunkers I've ever seen at
Speaker 4: a links course, is maybe a one shot penalty or
Speaker 4: at least three quarters of a shot. But I don't know.
Speaker 4: You just you can't roll around this place without abandon
Speaker 4: even with the rough being wispy, you know, Russell talked
Speaker 4: about a really experienced links player. He thinks he is
Speaker 4: going to win here when you look. You know podrig
Speaker 4: One here, he's a links player. Paul Lourie from Scotland
Speaker 4: one here. I think four of the seven winners here
Speaker 4: have been from the British Isles. Tom Watson won here.
Speaker 4: He was a master of links. So I think that
Speaker 4: I don't know. I don't think Carnoustie, even in these conditions,
Speaker 4: allows guys to just kind of play with a punity.
Speaker 4: I think that you'll see a lot of driving irons
Speaker 4: and I don't know, I just it seem it seemed
Speaker 4: hard for me. I'm not one of the top players
Speaker 4: in the world. It seems hard for me to walking
Speaker 4: around today to just see opportunities for guys to just
Speaker 4: blow it all over the place.
Speaker 1: I think, you know, what I'm kind of watching and
Speaker 1: what I've been thinking about a little bit is you know,
Speaker 1: we've had all the slew of first time major winners,
Speaker 1: and obviously Brooks has been kind of the first of
Speaker 1: that crop to get the second major title, like we
Speaker 1: have Dustin john You look at down the world rankings,
Speaker 1: Dustin Johnson, Justin Thomas, Justin Rose, top three players all
Speaker 1: only have one major championship. Then you go, you know,
Speaker 1: you've got Jason Day, You've got Patrick Reid, you've got
Speaker 1: Henrik Stenson, Sergio all all first time you know, one
Speaker 1: time major winners. And I think there's a big, you know,
Speaker 1: opportunity for these guys to you know, separate themselves and
Speaker 1: put them into another pantheon with a second major win.
Speaker 1: And what you were just describing made me kind of
Speaker 1: think of like, you know, great links player that has
Speaker 1: won an Open Championship is Sergia.
Speaker 4: Yeah, uh, Sergio a little runner up here, you know,
Speaker 4: seven little heartbreak. But also to go like go back
Speaker 4: to the stats, Uh, five of the seven winners here
Speaker 4: in the Hall of Fame, and that doesn't include pottery
Speaker 4: who's going to get in? So basically six of the
Speaker 4: seven players who've won here Hall of famers. I think,
Speaker 4: I think when we had a class winner. So I
Speaker 4: think that kind of falls into what you're saying.
Speaker 3: I'm a big Copka kopka guy. Again, I can't you know,
Speaker 3: I don't know that I'll pick him back to back,
Speaker 3: but uh, from from a Link standpoint, I kind of
Speaker 3: like Fleetwood. He seems, you know, based on what we
Speaker 3: saw at Shinnecock. I don't know if he's like as linksy.
Speaker 1: A player, as like a course record holder at yep yep,
Speaker 1: but obviously a different, different kind of course that keep
Speaker 1: saying that you'll hear that once or twice.
Speaker 3: Uh yeah, I think of the euro group, fleet was
Speaker 3: kind of that's not really a trendy ear of a
Speaker 3: dark horse pick, but he's the.
Speaker 5: One guy like on the English side.
Speaker 3: And Knox, I mean, I've seen you've been tweeting all
Speaker 3: week about Russell Knox Sean and they took you, you know,
Speaker 3: less than ten minutes to get into him today, but
Speaker 3: you know, it's kind of hard to ignore his form
Speaker 3: really through that like role X Series Ron and and everything,
Speaker 3: you know, the links the links portion of the schedule.
Speaker 3: So I think I think Knox and Fleetwood are my
Speaker 3: two favorite Euros.
Speaker 1: So we got a question from Kyle Davis, who who's
Speaker 1: asked is the Open the best overall major when you
Speaker 1: take into consideration TV coverage, road of courses, the RNA
Speaker 1: setup and you know, just links golf all that comes
Speaker 1: with it. What do you guys think about that?
Speaker 3: It is for me and I wrote this a couple
Speaker 3: of years ago and kind of reheat it and update
Speaker 3: it every year. I don't know what what I think
Speaker 3: the modern Open, and.
Speaker 5: I'll i'll say maybe the last decade.
Speaker 3: Has really branded itself really well. I just think it's
Speaker 3: really distinct and my and this is this is a
Speaker 3: personal opinion. So my personal interaction with this championship just
Speaker 3: seems more meaningful than others. I don't know why. Like
Speaker 3: I just feel like I remember more often of like
Speaker 3: where I was and remember taking it in more when
Speaker 3: it was whatever Tiger in two thousand and five, or
Speaker 3: Tiger in two thousand, or you know Phill in twenty thirteen,
Speaker 3: Rory in twenty fourteen. I just remember more about My
Speaker 3: personal interaction with this tournament just feels extra special. I
Speaker 3: like all the others too. I love the Masters, I
Speaker 3: love the US Open for a very different reason than this.
Speaker 3: But I don't I don't. I think just there's so
Speaker 3: many things about this that TV coverage, this time change,
Speaker 3: which I think is really really fun for a US
Speaker 3: audience for one week a year, it's not fun. This
Speaker 3: isn't something we want to do, right Liarly. I think
Speaker 3: it's that's I think that actually plays into the identity
Speaker 3: of the tournament for US audience, and then obviously just
Speaker 3: a style of golf. It's so refreshing. We're going to
Speaker 3: Bellery in three weeks or whatever. It's just it's nice
Speaker 3: to know that you can rely on this and this
Speaker 3: may be a kind of a you know this, this
Speaker 3: may be even an extreme case for firm and fast,
Speaker 3: but you just know the visual of it is going
Speaker 3: to be so different from from what we're used to
Speaker 3: and and I just think like the way it's really
Speaker 3: the RNA has branded it over the last decade. They're
Speaker 3: very very consistent and specific and clean, and I just
Speaker 3: think that they put on the best championship.
Speaker 4: Yeah. I mean I grew up in California, so I
Speaker 4: think you know, your final group was teamed off at
Speaker 4: like seven am, and so it was pretty awesome. It
Speaker 4: was so early. I mean, you can watch the whole
Speaker 4: thing and then you know it's over by like before
Speaker 4: noon you go play golf. So I always have fond
Speaker 4: memories of of that kind of it's cool too because
Speaker 4: you can get up early and just watch the golf
Speaker 4: and kind of curl up on the couch. And I
Speaker 4: definitely have a lot of fun memories of that, and
Speaker 4: at least golf is so unique. Tiger today was like
Speaker 4: beaming talking about how he played Carnoustie when he played
Speaker 4: as an amateur in the Scottish Open, and talking about
Speaker 4: how he spent two hours just hitting all these different
Speaker 4: clubs to the one hundred yards sign and he putted
Speaker 4: from eighty yards and I mean it was like the
Speaker 4: biggest smile I mean that I've seen on his face
Speaker 4: and maybe ever. I think part of that was just
Speaker 4: kind of recalling his youth and time with his dad
Speaker 4: and back when golf was a more innocent pursuit and
Speaker 4: he wasn't being hounded by everyone and everyone's snapping photos
Speaker 4: of him with cell phone cameras and stuff. But I
Speaker 4: think also just you know, you tweeted the thing that
Speaker 4: he had from Chronicles of an Open Champion, and I
Speaker 4: think people like just like seeing that challenge and like
Speaker 4: playing in that challenge. It's just so different. It's so
Speaker 4: unique that Yeah, I think the uniqueness of it, I
Speaker 4: think it's awesome.
Speaker 3: I'd strongly recommend going and finding that clip of Tiger.
Speaker 3: I'm sure it's on like golf channel dot com or
Speaker 3: someplace like that that has the press conferences. The Tiger
Speaker 3: talking about that was first time at Carnoustie, which is
Speaker 3: what ninety five no, yeah, yeah, in an amateur event.
Speaker 3: It just hitting too that one hundred meters sign. He's like,
Speaker 3: I just stayed there for two hours. I hit nine
Speaker 3: irons to it, I hit five irons, I hit wedges
Speaker 3: to it. It's just and my dad is like, are
Speaker 3: you ever going to hit it past one hundred meters sign?
Speaker 3: He's like, no, this is so much fun. And he
Speaker 3: was just smiling the whole time. And I think he
Speaker 3: went on a soliloquy for I don't know, like three
Speaker 3: minutes just talking about it. I just would strongly recommend.
Speaker 3: I know I'm kind of restating what Sean said, but
Speaker 3: I would strongly recommend, just just because there was so
Speaker 3: much context. It's like facial expressions and smiling around it was.
Speaker 3: It was really cool to hear him talk about the style. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I think the Open is another example of why variety
Speaker 1: is so important for off like whether it be the
Speaker 1: type of golf you're playing, or you know, the type
Speaker 1: of players on a leader board, or you know, even
Speaker 1: a golf course within a golf course having variety, but
Speaker 1: you know the Open Championship gives us a completely different
Speaker 1: look and feel from every other tournament that we, you know,
Speaker 1: as Americans are conditioned to watch. And if you look
Speaker 1: at the last you know, I was talking with Will
Speaker 1: Knights too, who writes for the site, and he does
Speaker 1: these you know, ranking the last ten, you know, ranking
Speaker 1: the last decade pieces for majors, and we were talking
Speaker 1: about the Open Championship and just like how many memorable
Speaker 1: ones there have been. I mean last year you had
Speaker 1: you know, Jordan yelling at Grell or go get that.
Speaker 1: But then the year before you had this Stinton Michelson Duel.
Speaker 1: I mean you have like, you know, Zach Johnson, Leishman
Speaker 1: and Oustaysan in a playoff the year before that at
Speaker 1: Saint Andrews. But then you had like Stuart Sink and
Speaker 1: Tom Watson going at it well you know, like maybe
Speaker 1: one of the most memorable Opens, and you know you
Speaker 1: had Philip Mirfield that was a great Open. Like in
Speaker 1: the last decade, you know, there have been so many
Speaker 1: great Open Championships, and I think more so than every
Speaker 1: other tournament, they've been the most memorable tournament and memorable
Speaker 1: tournament of recent memory.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I just and for like different reasons. I feel like,
Speaker 3: you know, the last decade, they's just like I was saying,
Speaker 3: my personal interaction with it.
Speaker 5: I just remember so much about each one.
Speaker 3: Like Phil, there was like that triumphalism of just feeling
Speaker 3: like I just played the best round of my golf,
Speaker 3: the best round of my life, and it kind of
Speaker 3: came out of nowhere. That wasn't like a ton of hype.
Speaker 3: He was in, you know, one of the last four
Speaker 3: or five groups and it just happened and then all
Speaker 3: of a sudden it was over. You know, he wasn't
Speaker 3: even in the coverage until like the like ninth hole,
Speaker 3: and all of a sudden, you know, two hours later
Speaker 3: he played the round of his life. And so often
Speaker 3: with Phil, there's so much hype and build up in
Speaker 3: a full day. And Rory was different. You know, Rory
Speaker 3: was great, you know more because of like it was
Speaker 3: the full pack of Rory. He was hitting freaking lasers,
Speaker 3: you know, five irons into par five and making eagle,
Speaker 3: and it was so different, Like it was the dominance
Speaker 3: of Rory that we thought was going to be like
Speaker 3: the number one, you know, the post Tiger player. I
Speaker 3: just feel like this and you're talking about sink first
Speaker 3: time Watson or the year after, its speed kind of
Speaker 3: challenging for the Slam, and somehow Zack Johnson went, there's
Speaker 3: just like it's memorable for a lot of different reasons,
Speaker 3: and it's been on kind of an incredible run, which
Speaker 3: kind of scares me also that we're due for kind
Speaker 3: of a dud or a flop winner.
Speaker 1: So so from r J tapist, could we see the
Speaker 1: firmness that Carnussie make it play to point where minus
Speaker 1: fifteen is a winning score? You know, we all know
Speaker 1: power doesn't matter, but could it make Carnoussie easier.
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 4: I mean, I'm still over the mindset that it's going
Speaker 4: to be a higher winning score.
Speaker 3: I don't.
Speaker 4: I mean Pottery shots seven under, when the place was
Speaker 4: basically almost winless, it was damp, it was playing about
Speaker 4: as easy as it can in seven under one. I
Speaker 4: just think, I mean, this is a very unique set
Speaker 4: of circumstances, but the layout is just tough enough that
Speaker 4: I think even with this it's it'll stand up.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think I saw it today. The over under
Speaker 3: for low round is what sixty three and a half? Yeah?
Speaker 4: I think you tweeted those and immediately want to reply
Speaker 4: over in all caps on everything, just over everything.
Speaker 3: Okay, I saw them an email. I think people are expecting,
Speaker 3: you know, someone to go super low. I don't know
Speaker 3: if you can back that up to two days in
Speaker 3: a row or post you know, four mid sixties und
Speaker 3: high sixties rounds. I say that, but it just seems
Speaker 3: like everyone's expecting this to be ani.
Speaker 1: Yeah, the fact that the greens are kind of soft.
Speaker 1: But I think I feel like those greens could bake
Speaker 1: out real quick. I mean, and actually one of the
Speaker 1: difficult things is if if those fairways are as firm
Speaker 1: as everybody's saying, so they're really firm fairways. If the
Speaker 1: greens are soft, those are actually really tough conditions to
Speaker 1: play in. Is when you've got a lot of inconsistency
Speaker 1: between the faraway and the green, and I think, yeah,
Speaker 1: I have a hard time seeing you know, sixteen seventeen under.
Speaker 1: But I mean, if anything with the low wind, sunny,
Speaker 1: you know, good conditions like this would be the year
Speaker 1: that that would happen. Granted part doesn't really matter, you know, right,
Speaker 1: So what about the burn naming water features? Do you
Speaker 1: know this comes from Barry W You guys think it's overrated, underrated,
Speaker 1: you know, the barry Burn Rays Creek.
Speaker 4: Mean I'm in I mean just because it's not like
Speaker 4: someone came along and like named these for like a postcard,
Speaker 4: like they're historical bodies of water. It's not like they
Speaker 4: just this wasn't like a branding exercise. There's a town
Speaker 4: of Bury nearby the Burry Mill. It's water wheel is
Speaker 4: powered by the Barry Burn. So it's not like, you know,
Speaker 4: just some marketer came by and it was like, all right,
Speaker 4: we need to name this burn after Manilo or Bonds
Speaker 4: or Sanders. It's just I don't know, I don't You
Speaker 4: can't criticize a historic water monument that was probably around
Speaker 4: before the golf course.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think it's it's it's fine, it's underrated if
Speaker 3: the thing's been there forever. It's not you know, some
Speaker 3: sort of you know, live under par activation or something
Speaker 3: like that.
Speaker 4: Plus how good is it that the thing is twelve
Speaker 4: feet wide and it just it messes with people so much,
Speaker 4: like it's you feel like you could jump across it
Speaker 4: if you've got a running start, and yet it plays
Speaker 4: a huge, a huge part and you're thinking on on
Speaker 4: several holes and a lot of great golf courses do that.
Speaker 4: I think Cal Club has a great creek on one
Speaker 4: of the holes and just shows you don't need a
Speaker 4: giant pond with a fountain. You can have a great
Speaker 4: hazard that's twelve feet wide.
Speaker 3: So how many times does it cross?
Speaker 1: I think it's three times on eighteen alone, right.
Speaker 4: Yeah, So it kind of first, the course kind of
Speaker 4: goes along the perimeter of the property. This is not
Speaker 4: like a traditional out and back linx. It goes around
Speaker 4: basically the square of the property for the most part,
Speaker 4: and then on the inside is the other course, the
Speaker 4: burn side, And so you kind of see it on ten.
Speaker 4: It's not really in play. Ten's a pretty short hole
Speaker 4: and it's short, it's short enough from the green that's
Speaker 4: not really be in play, but you basically see it.
Speaker 4: You first see it kind of left of sixteen, which
Speaker 4: is a two hundred and fifty yard par three that
Speaker 4: you're trying to squeeze like a ferry wood in between
Speaker 4: two huge bunkers that are fifteen yards apart, and the
Speaker 4: hole just looks impossible, but really as seventeen when comes
Speaker 4: into play, it the thing is like a snake goes
Speaker 4: up the left it goes in front of the seventeenth
Speaker 4: tee right before the landing area. Then it goes up
Speaker 4: the left side, then it crosses again, and so really
Speaker 4: the hole if you go down the left side, I mean,
Speaker 4: the burn's right there and there's basically no rough, and
Speaker 4: you can go in it pretty easily if you want
Speaker 4: to try to hit it up on the hole. The
Speaker 4: burn crosses like kind of a diagonal left to right,
Speaker 4: so you can try to squeeze up the right side,
Speaker 4: but if you pull it or hook it trying to
Speaker 4: squeeze it into that right corner, you can easily go
Speaker 4: in the burn. And then eighteen. It's not really in
Speaker 4: play off the tee. You have to really snipe one
Speaker 4: because the rough left of eighteen is really really thick.
Speaker 4: It's the by far of the thickest part of the
Speaker 4: golf course. I saw Adam Hadwin lose a ball in
Speaker 4: the rough, and so it isn't playing in front of
Speaker 4: the green. I forgot. I was watching Golf Channel documentary
Speaker 4: on ninety nine that Laurie bounced it over the burn
Speaker 4: and regulation like we talk about Vandervelt and all that stuff,
Speaker 4: but Laurie got this humongous break just to get in
Speaker 4: that playoff.
Speaker 1: Hey, you know smart and you're on site, so you're
Speaker 1: adjusted to Scottish time. Brendan, what's your what's your schedule? What?
Speaker 1: What do you think about adjusting your schedule this year?
Speaker 4: How?
Speaker 1: I know we we did last year the stay up
Speaker 1: all night thing and that was pretty crazy. But what
Speaker 1: are you planning on this this week?
Speaker 3: Well, I'm gonna stay out. I mean, I'm gonna be
Speaker 3: I'm gonna be ready locked in one thirty a m.
Speaker 3: Eastern on Thursday. But there are many, many, many different
Speaker 3: energy drinks. The strategy, well, that's certainly an aid. There's
Speaker 3: many strategies on how to flip into open time for
Speaker 3: you know, unemployed or oddly employed people who don't have
Speaker 3: any obligations Thursday or Friday. I think the thing to
Speaker 3: do is one of these nights you just have to
Speaker 3: power through and kind of stay up all night and
Speaker 3: then like flip and go to bed at like eight
Speaker 3: eight pm Scottish time. So like I think usually it's
Speaker 3: usually the thing. Or if you don't have to be working,
Speaker 3: darn it. You know, Wednesday night you pick like you
Speaker 3: go out to late dinner, like ten o'clock.
Speaker 5: Obviously nothing crazy. You don't like go out for.
Speaker 3: Ribs or a bunch of you know pasta that's going
Speaker 3: to knock you out. Uh, go out for light dinner,
Speaker 3: maybe light seafood late Wednesday night, maybe maybe you have
Speaker 3: a cocktail or two kind of like you know, start
Speaker 3: feeling good and then you just power through Thursday and crash.
Speaker 3: You know, you can switch from cocktails to coffee at
Speaker 3: some point, usually like four or five. You know, you
Speaker 3: get that star power group coming in around four. I
Speaker 3: think this year it's Beef coming on at four. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I think there's another one right behind them too. You
Speaker 1: gotta yeah and uh no Rom and.
Speaker 3: Ricky, Okay, Phil's pretty early phills like at three am.
Speaker 3: You like switch to coffee kind of around that time,
Speaker 3: and you just power through t like early afternoon. So
Speaker 3: here's my just you nap a little when you get
Speaker 3: home from Wednesday, Wednesday work, late dinner Wednesday, A couple
Speaker 3: of cocktails power through you flipped coffee about like four
Speaker 3: o'clock as those big groups come on and you get
Speaker 3: to you know where this is headed. You don't eat heavy.
Speaker 3: You can't be eating heavy. You can't be having this
Speaker 3: big breakfast and all that crap.
Speaker 1: When when do you pop in a monster and what
Speaker 1: flavor do you go with?
Speaker 3: I've been waiting like a casual sipping that's just ever present.
Speaker 3: I think like you you should shotgun on at ten
Speaker 3: am basically like inhale it inhale it at ten am,
Speaker 3: chase it with like an espresso, and then you're good
Speaker 3: to go, man, And then go have a light lunch
Speaker 3: maybe like a like a grilled cheese or something, something light,
Speaker 3: not too heavy on the bread or cheese, and you're good.
Speaker 3: You get to like four or five o'clock, you crash
Speaker 3: around five pm, and you're good for the next three days.
Speaker 1: Do you say goodbye to your wife and kids before
Speaker 1: you do this?
Speaker 3: That's understood.
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Speaker 1: don't know what I'm gonna do this year. I'm probably
Speaker 1: gonna do a super early wake up, probably like a
Speaker 1: I'm probably gonna clock in at four am. You know,
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna I'm not gonna go through the all
Speaker 1: night thing. And you know, to be honest, I'm not
Speaker 1: that excited to watch like Sandy lylety Off like doesn't
Speaker 1: do it for me.
Speaker 3: And that's a dirty secret about this. It's it's uh
Speaker 3: like that first year they started it at one thirty,
Speaker 3: which is like insanely early even for Scotland, you know,
Speaker 3: like it's insanely early in the actual time zone where
Speaker 3: the Turkey being played, and it was Colin Montgomery at
Speaker 3: truon and all that, you know stuff.
Speaker 5: But like it's kind of quiet until like three or four, like.
Speaker 3: ESP would come on at four o'clock on Thursday and Friday.
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm pretty excited about the two to eight
Speaker 1: pairing of Mark Calcavecchia, Dante Boomna and Sean Newis is
Speaker 1: that Norris or newis.
Speaker 4: I think it's Norris, Isn't it?
Speaker 3: Is it?
Speaker 1: I've gotten in front of me. It's spelled with two
Speaker 1: oh's and in one r oh. Really yeah, maybe miss spelled.
Speaker 3: I gotta be honest.
Speaker 4: I might need. They have a different energy drink for
Speaker 4: sale in the in the meat center. It's one sponsored
Speaker 4: by a top ten player in the world. Won't name names,
Speaker 4: but I may need what. I haven't had a good
Speaker 4: night sleep since I got here, the whole not getting
Speaker 4: dark until past ten and then getting lighted at four am.
Speaker 4: It really messed with you. And I'm going about nine
Speaker 4: days now without quality sleep. So I may have to
Speaker 4: follow your own your own plane there.
Speaker 1: What what do you guys think about the pairings for
Speaker 1: the open they?
Speaker 4: What do you?
Speaker 3: Let's see it? I lost you there, Yeah.
Speaker 1: I lost everybody there.
Speaker 3: I was.
Speaker 1: I said, what do you guys think about the pairings
Speaker 1: with the non You know they're kind of stacked but
Speaker 1: not super stacked. Do you like Do you like this?
Speaker 4: I'll go. I liked Kyle's take. I thought Kyle, our
Speaker 4: friend Kyle Porter of CBS, of course, was spot on.
Speaker 4: I think that the kind of two thirds groups where
Speaker 4: it's like two big names, and you know the third
Speaker 4: name that they really could slot in there to make
Speaker 4: it just a super group. They don't go there. Uh,
Speaker 4: they just have two really big names and a lesser one.
Speaker 4: I like that for just the overall flow, especially if
Speaker 4: you're someone like Brendan or you know, you guys getting
Speaker 4: up at like two in the morning. They're kind of
Speaker 4: just sprinkled throughout the tea times. And you know, I
Speaker 4: was going through I did our feature groups file for
Speaker 4: pere dot com and I did like ten groups because
Speaker 4: there were so many that you had to pay attention to.
Speaker 4: And I think that's good for viewing, because yeah, they're sprinkled,
Speaker 4: sprinkled throughout. It's not just really solid, these two solid
Speaker 4: blocks of every big name you can think of.
Speaker 1: What's what's your favorite one, Sean Cintia, Since you went
Speaker 1: through that, I just actually wrote something.
Speaker 4: I've already let my feelings be known. I think it's
Speaker 4: it's definitely Tiger Hideki Knox. Uh.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know who I'm gonna love watching is read
Speaker 3: Usti Louis.
Speaker 4: And Paul case It's a very classy group.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Paul Paul Casey something else. I mean I feel
Speaker 1: like he I mean when you start talking about, you know,
Speaker 1: best player without a major, I think he's got to
Speaker 1: be in the mix in the conversation. He's still consistent,
Speaker 1: and I think he's got fifteen top fifteens and majors
Speaker 1: over the course of his career.
Speaker 5: You know.
Speaker 1: The one thing is he's never had like a really
Speaker 1: close close call in a major, like you'd never have
Speaker 1: felt like, well, you know, Paul Casey should have won
Speaker 1: that major like you do with like where Ricky's had
Speaker 1: what he's they had three runner ups, four runner ups
Speaker 1: now and Ousti's had you know, four runners up and
Speaker 1: one in each major, which is pretty incredible. Do you
Speaker 1: guys have any any sleepers outside of Russell Knox Sean
Speaker 1: that you're looking at?
Speaker 4: What do you consider a sleep? Right?
Speaker 3: Sander Showtley is eighty to one? How about I got one?
Speaker 3: Who else is the one? Lee Westwood? Is that a sleep?
Speaker 3: He's barely a golfer anymore.
Speaker 4: Hasney flashed a little form recently?
Speaker 3: Yes, Yes, he's been andy.
Speaker 1: I mean I I re purchased my foreclothes property on
Speaker 1: Westwood Island recently because he's been really playing well. I
Speaker 1: mean you can see, yeah, since I mean I'm I'm
Speaker 1: working on a sponsorship deal to get some airwest He's
Speaker 1: sent directly to me. But you look at you know,
Speaker 1: you watch his Instagram, you can tell he's been. He's
Speaker 1: been in the gym. He's still eating a ton, he's
Speaker 1: still eating and drinking a ton. But you know he's been.
Speaker 1: He's been practicing a little bit more and he's been
Speaker 1: in the gym a lot. You know, I think there's
Speaker 1: a resurgence here at in the late forties here for Westy,
Speaker 1: And to be honest, this could be the spot for him.
Speaker 1: You know, baked out. You know, he's got he can,
Speaker 1: he's so good tea to green. It's just like a
Speaker 1: matter of just putting okay, you know, just not missing
Speaker 1: so many short putts. You know, I feel like my
Speaker 1: life's been haunted by Lee Westwood missing four footers on
Speaker 1: Saturdays and Sundays. Like I mean, it's just like a
Speaker 1: vivid memory of like, you know how he stands. You know,
Speaker 1: he he's got a distinct posture over a putt. But
Speaker 1: then when he would just shove him right, you know,
Speaker 1: like they'd immediately off the club face, be like right
Speaker 1: of the hole, and you'd be like, oh you missed
Speaker 1: it again, but like the way he would stand over
Speaker 1: the putt like after you know, rolls by the hole
Speaker 1: like you know, it's like the look of a guy
Speaker 1: that knew he had no chance of making that putt,
Speaker 1: and it's, uh, you know, if he could somehow get
Speaker 1: around that, I mean we'd be talking about probably, you know,
Speaker 1: the second best player of this generation.
Speaker 4: Oh wow, what about the big Kiwi Ryan Fox?
Speaker 1: That guy pounds the ball.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think he's like the son of a rugby
Speaker 4: player or something.
Speaker 3: He's built like a rick ship house.
Speaker 4: He's one hundred the Irish Open obviously, uh so, and
Speaker 4: then t six at Scottish Opens, so playing the links.
Speaker 1: Well, what about Paul Dunn, Yeah, I didn't even is
Speaker 1: in the field that. Yeah, he's kind of d like
Speaker 1: a sneaky like really good year. You know, I know
Speaker 1: he's on on the bubble of Ryder Cup team. But
Speaker 1: then I mean you're talking about a guy that was
Speaker 1: in the final group as an amateur and an open,
Speaker 1: So I think he could be a sleeper.
Speaker 3: I think you Lion's one hundred and fifty to one.
Speaker 5: What do you think of him?
Speaker 4: Class player? I like it. Actually, I was like, I'm
Speaker 4: shocked at eighty to one. Is Rafa carbrera.
Speaker 3: Bao too high.
Speaker 4: I think that's it. I would I'd hop on that
Speaker 4: in a second.
Speaker 3: That's why. Yeah, he's like the.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, I'm not a big odds guy. I've only
Speaker 4: hopped on golf odds for the first time. We've done
Speaker 4: all this, so, uh.
Speaker 1: You know, I kind of like as the resurgent Danny Willett. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, everybody left him for dead. He's he's back busy.
Speaker 1: I don't know, I don't I feel like he falls
Speaker 1: into this bucket of like guys that, like really good
Speaker 1: players that have gone through like the doul Drums, one
Speaker 1: of which is Westy. I mean Westy went through like
Speaker 1: a two year period where he completely lost it in
Speaker 1: like the what was it the early two thousands, and
Speaker 1: then Henrik Stenson, I mean Stenson had the legit Shanks
Speaker 1: a couple of years ago, and uh and will It's
Speaker 1: just the latest of it. I mean, I don't think
Speaker 1: Smiley Kauffman's coming back from it, but I think, you know,
Speaker 1: will it will It is coming back. He's not He's
Speaker 1: a great player.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he was number one amateur in the world at
Speaker 3: one point, he just.
Speaker 5: Had injury and you know, swing changes and all sorts
Speaker 5: of issue.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 4: I think the barn Rat the Barbara's kind of advancing
Speaker 4: past just being like an internet nomenon, Like he's not
Speaker 4: just a giant who babes and drives porsches. Like he's
Speaker 4: actually played pretty well at some big events this year.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I like that. I like the barn Rat too.
Speaker 1: He's he's he's got a tough pairing though, I just
Speaker 1: I I like the barn Rat, but I don't like
Speaker 1: the high profile pairing he's in. I feel like that
Speaker 1: that hinders his chances. Sure, it's a I like olisen
Speaker 1: to the Thunderbear. Yeah, he's uh, you know, the only
Speaker 1: reason I know how to do those the lines through
Speaker 1: an oh is because of him and on a keyboard.
Speaker 1: But I like him. He's been I think he's got
Speaker 1: top tens and three of his last five events and
Speaker 1: one of them is a win.
Speaker 4: So that's like a quarter of the field. Now we're
Speaker 4: really I mean, we'll pretty much just pick a winner
Speaker 4: if we just keep going.
Speaker 1: I do who's so, who's your winner? If you ships
Speaker 1: her down?
Speaker 4: I was huge on Hendrick until the report came out
Speaker 4: this Yeah, thel the elbow thing really killed it. I
Speaker 4: was huge on Hendrick, I was very big on strops
Speaker 4: gained approach. The green is kind of the determinant of
Speaker 4: what to pick based off of. But not being said,
Speaker 4: I'm not sure who I think Brooks, I'm gonna go Brooks.
Speaker 4: I'm all in on Brooks. I loved some of the
Speaker 4: things he said at Shinnacock when things out of the
Speaker 4: hand and people asked him why he didn't complain. He
Speaker 4: just said, you know, when you complained, you're just allowing
Speaker 4: yourself to make excuses. I'm not gonna make excuses. And
Speaker 4: then he also said that I love golf where you
Speaker 4: have to aim away from the flagstick. I feel like
Speaker 4: it tests my discipline. Like you don't hear a lot
Speaker 4: of twenty eight year olds say that, like readily admit
Speaker 4: that they're readily welcome aiming away from the stick. So
Speaker 4: he just he has that kind of maturity, And yeah,
Speaker 4: I don't know have a problem anyway from flag sticks.
Speaker 4: I feel like so many guys do have a problem
Speaker 4: with that.
Speaker 3: That's a fascinating interview with Joey d Earlier, she's talking
Speaker 3: about how Kopka loves like the punishing workout I was
Speaker 3: supposed to it. Likes to be like beat up. Maybe
Speaker 3: that's where he gets his discipline, just throwing out the
Speaker 3: middle of the green my winner. I loved Koepka again,
Speaker 3: but you know, he came through for me last time.
Speaker 3: I am picking Patrick Reid. I think he's a different,
Speaker 3: different player since he won the Masters. I think, you know,
Speaker 3: we've seen him compete pretty consistently after an underwhelming major
Speaker 3: start to his major's career. You know, he's around the green.
Speaker 3: He's maybe the best, one of the best in the world.
Speaker 3: That's back that up. He's pretty good, above average approaching
Speaker 3: the green. You know. His one weakness is technically distanced,
Speaker 3: you know, off the tee, and I think that'll be
Speaker 3: mitigated of it this week. I think it's more of
Speaker 3: like a control and plotting game. And I just think
Speaker 3: he's uh. I think he's a really different confident Like
Speaker 3: I mean, he's obviously confident, but he talked to himself
Speaker 3: about how he was really nervous.
Speaker 5: He used to get nervous in Majors and he was
Speaker 5: nervous to Masters.
Speaker 3: And how different it felt at Shinnecock. Since you know,
Speaker 3: the post Masters win and we saw him con Don
Speaker 3: there again. I just think he's like a different player
Speaker 3: now the masters want to do that, and I think
Speaker 3: he's got the kind of game, certainly around the Green
Speaker 3: to win this week.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's been on a run T second at the
Speaker 1: PGA win and what do he finished fourth or third
Speaker 1: at at Shinnacock fourth, I think, so, man, that's a
Speaker 1: pretty good three major run. And this in the course
Speaker 1: of this podcast, I have talked myself into Sergio.
Speaker 4: So wow.
Speaker 1: You know, I know he hasn't had the best year
Speaker 1: he's but he's got top top ten and then at T.
Speaker 1: Twelfth in his last two starts, and I just I
Speaker 1: think some experience. He's had so many close goals. I mean,
Speaker 1: the Open Championship is the one that you expected Sergio
Speaker 1: to get. I mean they did. It fits it fits
Speaker 1: his game more so than any other major championship. So
Speaker 1: I'm rolling with the experienced guy, and Sergio move moves
Speaker 1: himself a nottchup and you know, the greatest players of
Speaker 1: all time with with another major win.
Speaker 3: We talked real quick about Cat.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we got to talk about Cat quickly.
Speaker 5: I don't know if that's possible.
Speaker 3: So I heard now this has become a big talking point.
Speaker 3: This is the best chance. The Open is the best
Speaker 3: chance for him to win another major rest of his career,
Speaker 3: and this specific one is the best of the best
Speaker 3: chance of the Open to win this week this week.
Speaker 1: So I think I think I got to disagree with
Speaker 1: this week being the best chance. But the Open I
Speaker 1: think is the best chance for anybody because the weather
Speaker 1: can just knock out half the field and given the
Speaker 1: draw and the weather or not, well, that's that's why
Speaker 1: I'm saying that it can't be this year. Yeah, so
Speaker 1: this year, it can't be that year because if the
Speaker 1: weather is the way it's forecasted, you know the draw
Speaker 1: is going to be equal, so you're gonna have a
Speaker 1: whole field to contend with. So I think with regards
Speaker 1: to like the ability to hit irons and plot his
Speaker 1: way around the course, that's that's great. Like that's it.
Speaker 1: But I mean, like the last time we saw him
Speaker 1: at quicken Loans, he was, he was, he was great
Speaker 1: t to Green, I mean it. I think it definitely
Speaker 1: plays his hands where he can hit irons. I think
Speaker 1: he's got a good shot this week. I would put
Speaker 1: him probably outside the top ten in favors right.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's kind of under the radar. It's crazy he's
Speaker 3: twenty five to one.
Speaker 4: It's a huge ever under the radar. It is a
Speaker 4: lot of that is big.
Speaker 3: Odds though we're talking about relative Tiger, Like he's just
Speaker 3: he's under the radar for Tiger, and that's an enormous
Speaker 3: number for a guy who's like, in effect then a top.
Speaker 5: Twenty player in the world this year, right, I mean
Speaker 5: he's not.
Speaker 3: His ranking says something different, but his play is out
Speaker 3: of like a top twenty player in.
Speaker 5: The world and for him to you know, he's not.
Speaker 3: He had much lower numbers. He was like his back
Speaker 3: was a mess, he had no chance, like he has
Speaker 3: a chance this week. Twenty five to one just seems
Speaker 3: really high for a Tiger and the realm of Tiger.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I was. I mean, I agree with all of it.
Speaker 4: I think the Open, for so many reasons that we've
Speaker 4: talked about, fits him so well and fits him well
Speaker 4: for years, because, like he talked about, you can even
Speaker 4: when he gets you know, older, you can you know,
Speaker 4: have to hit as far you can run it up.
Speaker 4: And I was trying to prepare this contrarian take where
Speaker 4: it's like, yeah, he's won three Opens, but two were
Speaker 4: Saint Andrew's. And then I pulled up his record and
Speaker 4: he has nine top tens in nineteen starts, and that
Speaker 4: I mean really nine top tens basically in fifteen starts
Speaker 4: where he had a chance, discounting the amateur starts, and
Speaker 4: then twenty fifteen I think anominallyes so he basically three
Speaker 4: quarters of his starts he's finishing top ten at the Open.
Speaker 4: H it's I think it is. It's a great reform.
Speaker 4: I think it just it kind of gets the gears flowing.
Speaker 4: And I think maybe because there's so much enthusiasm for
Speaker 4: it and so much creativity, it maybe takes away a
Speaker 4: little bit of the nerves. I think it's a very
Speaker 4: amateur psychology take, but I think that I don't know.
Speaker 4: I think that he feels more comfortable there maybe than
Speaker 4: anywhere else because he knows that he can do things differently,
Speaker 4: he can be creative and he doesn't have to you know,
Speaker 4: you don't play perfect the Open, you have to play smart.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think the Open is a much more like
Speaker 1: instinctual golf. It's not a you know, there's this this
Speaker 1: ongoing debate between you know, is golf science or is
Speaker 1: it art? And I think when you're out in the
Speaker 1: Open Championship with the conditions, the weather, you know, the firmness,
Speaker 1: like it becomes so much less scientific and so much
Speaker 1: more about feel and and just you know, knowing how
Speaker 1: to play and just you know, proper golf. And I
Speaker 1: think that's why you see, you know, the list of players.
Speaker 1: Obviously you get some some flukey winners just because of
Speaker 1: weather and stuff, but you get you know, a real
Speaker 1: class leaderboard and class players almost every time out with
Speaker 1: it with the Open. And I think, uh, you know
Speaker 1: that's how it fits Tiger so well. Is that when
Speaker 1: when the trips are down and you know, like we
Speaker 1: saw it so much through his career, is like when
Speaker 1: he you know, when when his back's up against the wall,
Speaker 1: but it's all about just hitting that shot. He was
Speaker 1: you know, one of the class players and always came
Speaker 1: up with the shot because it was like you know,
Speaker 1: he was you know, it's kind of like golf in
Speaker 1: your childhood when you're you know, playing and you're racing
Speaker 1: against darkness, like you can't see anything. You're just you're
Speaker 1: just swinging and hitting the shot. It's not uh you know,
Speaker 1: you you kind of I think you lose that a
Speaker 1: little bit when it's just you know, kind of point
Speaker 1: and shoot and all numbers based, and with the green books,
Speaker 1: like it's become so scientific and going somewhere where it's
Speaker 1: so firm and you can get a bad bounce out
Speaker 1: of the blue, brings back the art of it a
Speaker 1: little bit more.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think there's something a couple of years ago
Speaker 4: that it was really telling. And when Phil switched to
Speaker 4: Andrew gets and he was talking about how like he
Speaker 4: really basically felt he had the genesis, like the bulk
Speaker 4: of what they were trying to do down like he
Speaker 4: had that part of swing and now he tried to
Speaker 4: learn kind of and get back into the finer hand
Speaker 4: motions to create a little you know, different shots and
Speaker 4: hit a little bit higher, cut it a little bit,
Speaker 4: draw it a little bit. And you know, we look
Speaker 4: at golf swings as like this macro thing. We break
Speaker 4: down swing plane and we look at the big motions
Speaker 4: because that's what you can catch on camera. But you know,
Speaker 4: impact of the freshmous second and so much of it
Speaker 4: and what talent, I think what a lot of it
Speaker 4: is is just that little bit extra ability to you know,
Speaker 4: control it and manipulate it and save it sometimes and
Speaker 4: work it sometimes with the hands. And so I think
Speaker 4: you get over here, and you know Tiger's working on that,
Speaker 4: and Tiger's he got trying to hit fine shots to
Speaker 4: take this little you know, extra hand motion that kind
Speaker 4: of like you were saying, put the artistry back in it.
Speaker 4: And so he's been so swing centric. You know, he's
Speaker 4: changing things up the past few years. And and I
Speaker 4: think that you know, going back to maybe just playing
Speaker 4: golf again, I think helps him get out of that,
Speaker 4: you know, basically the whole thing of playing golf versus
Speaker 4: playing golf swing type deal.
Speaker 1: So Will Knights, Uh, you know Ben Curtis, Hunter, Mayhanan
Speaker 1: and Mike where we're all in the top ten the
Speaker 1: last time the Open was at Carnal State. Of these three,
Speaker 1: who would you be most surprised if they want another major?
Speaker 3: Was it Ben Curtis, Mayhan and Weird.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean it has me.
Speaker 4: Ben Curtis, I don't think we're.
Speaker 1: We're gonna we're gonna count We're gonna count senior major
Speaker 1: wins in this.
Speaker 3: I think it's still Ben Curtis, no way, But any boy,
Speaker 3: I mean he came out of nowhere to win the
Speaker 3: first time he come out of nowhere again.
Speaker 4: That was that was offends me. He was the no
Speaker 4: more'n amateur in the world at Kent State for a while,
Speaker 4: and then everyone's like, oh, he came out of nowhere.
Speaker 5: I'm from Northeast Ohio. I know, I know about his roots.
Speaker 5: I know.
Speaker 3: I'm just telling you he'd come out of north where again.
Speaker 3: He just he was what was he ranked in the world,
Speaker 3: like six hundred or something. Mike Weir has no chance
Speaker 3: to wait, and I'm for a major, you know, a
Speaker 3: club championship. Mike Weir, God bless the guy. You know,
Speaker 3: he seems like a very nice individual, was a Hall
Speaker 3: of Famer, maybe incredibly you know great at one point
Speaker 3: he hits like a wounded duck were five yards. He's
Speaker 3: hot except to the US Senior Women's Oh geez. He
Speaker 3: I think of those three, I like him. I'm a
Speaker 3: big fan, you know, I just I when it's gone,
Speaker 3: it's gone. He just I think he would be the
Speaker 3: most unlikely.
Speaker 1: I agree, Mike Weir has no chance.
Speaker 4: Also, Hunter May had the original Monster ambassador on tour.
Speaker 3: That's right.
Speaker 1: You always have to wonder about that underlying motives of
Speaker 1: for Yeah, you know this comes out after his rant
Speaker 1: about we're trying to take all the spotlight off Mayhew. Hey,
Speaker 1: I think I could see Ben Curtis becoming an icon
Speaker 1: on the senior tour, you know, becoming the guy that
Speaker 1: you know it just just has a research and at
Speaker 1: age fifty.
Speaker 4: Do we know if he plays golf anymore?
Speaker 1: I'm sure he does.
Speaker 4: Are we really? Are you sure?
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm sure he goes out and plays golf,
Speaker 1: you know, might not play played for money in a while.
Speaker 4: His last start was a two thousand seven tex w D.
Speaker 4: He played two events played nowhere in twenty eighteen.
Speaker 1: Hey, he's just getting primed, just just starting like a rocky,
Speaker 1: like a you know, training for the senior tour.
Speaker 4: So so Ben ben Curtis won three more tour events.
Speaker 4: He finished runner up in a PGA Championship and a players.
Speaker 3: Like I had a career.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you had a good little career there for sure.
Speaker 1: So we got overrated. Uh, let's go with it. Van
Speaker 1: Derveld's collapse. Is it overrated or underrated? And this is
Speaker 1: from Ernesto mm hmm.
Speaker 3: I think it's become overrated. I think it's become mythologized
Speaker 3: in a way that we just that's how we do.
Speaker 3: We kind of get carried away with things. Of course,
Speaker 3: it's I think incredible.
Speaker 1: Turn.
Speaker 3: It just finishes to a turn. But I think it's
Speaker 3: been mythologized a little too much, just because like it
Speaker 3: had the taking your shoes off and socks off and
Speaker 3: getting in the burn. There's just like a lot of
Speaker 3: visuals with it that have just added. I don't know,
Speaker 3: I think I think it's it's I think it's overrated,
Speaker 3: or maybe I'm just fatigued by it all this week.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's pretty interesting walking around here, you I mean
Speaker 4: still when people are walking around eighteen you constantly just
Speaker 4: hear people like going okay, and then he was there,
Speaker 4: and then he hit it to there and then it
Speaker 4: bounced off this thing, you know, and it's still the
Speaker 4: big top point. But I agree with the overrated. Like
Speaker 4: you still see the photo of him in the burn
Speaker 4: with his pant rolled up, you know, every time we
Speaker 4: come to Carnoustie and I'm going overrated. I appreciate it.
Speaker 4: In Bryan Latner's Oral History the whole thing van de
Speaker 4: Veldt for the first time I had seen it. Finally
Speaker 4: admitt that, like when the night was over, he went
Speaker 4: into his hotel room and I believe that he was
Speaker 4: in his closet, he said, bawling, and like the whole.
Speaker 4: I never bought the whole, Like, oh, I'm French, It's
Speaker 4: just a game. It does not matter. I was like,
Speaker 4: there's no way, man, And so I was so glad
Speaker 4: to finally hear him admit that he just broke down
Speaker 4: after the man was over. I mean, I feel bad
Speaker 4: for him that he did, but I just it it
Speaker 4: had to be. I mean, there's no way that it
Speaker 4: wasn't a big deal. But it's overrated.
Speaker 1: I'm going underrated. There's it was the mean, it's the
Speaker 1: craziest collapse and in any championship golf his.
Speaker 4: I mean, yeah, but now we're going on like revisionist
Speaker 4: history on it tore like, well, actually he was really
Speaker 4: unlucky because like if he hit this pole and the
Speaker 4: ball and the pole, and I'm like, yeah, but you
Speaker 4: know how you're not unlucky. You hit seven ron into
Speaker 4: the fairway he needed to.
Speaker 1: Make a I mean it, I'll never forget it. It's
Speaker 1: one of the you know, whether you like it or not,
Speaker 1: like one of the most vivid memory golf memories I've
Speaker 1: ever had, you know.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but it was kind of a goofy into a
Speaker 4: goofy week because the setup was crazy. I mean it
Speaker 4: was like, I mean, the setup was an abomination to
Speaker 4: the with an angle school. There was zero of both
Speaker 4: the fairways were four yards wide, So I don't know,
Speaker 4: I think that's what kind of what sours on me.
Speaker 4: It was almost like the deserving ending to the week
Speaker 4: that they had there.
Speaker 3: All right.
Speaker 1: Overrated, underrated Adam Scott's career, and that says given the
Speaker 1: expectations from Tommy Goofano, I think we ooh his career.
Speaker 4: So like his resume, I guess.
Speaker 3: His career number one in the world, the players and
Speaker 3: the masters, it's pretty good.
Speaker 5: But what was he number one in the world for
Speaker 5: like a month less.
Speaker 1: Maybe an hour?
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think I'm gonna go underrated just because I
Speaker 4: mean we based so much on like what the swing
Speaker 4: looks like, and he's a good looking guy. Like if
Speaker 4: he was twenty pounds heavier and he had a hitch
Speaker 4: in his swing, you'd be like, oh my gosh, what
Speaker 4: an amazing you know, like there's so much more to
Speaker 4: golf than just what your swing looks like I mean,
Speaker 4: I know two handicaps that have good looking swings, but
Speaker 4: they're not going to crack an egg on tour. And
Speaker 4: so I think we just like the poor guy because
Speaker 4: he's ridiculously good looking and his swing is on perfectly
Speaker 4: on plane throughout, like we expect him to win everything.
Speaker 4: So I just think that it's just the visuals are there,
Speaker 4: so we think, oh, he should win so much. But
Speaker 4: in really I think it's been a good career. I
Speaker 4: think just the expectations is so high because again the
Speaker 4: looks in the swing.
Speaker 3: Yeah, i'd probably say I'd probably say for the same reason,
Speaker 3: it's overrated. I think like he just gets too much
Speaker 3: credit for being good, lucky and have a great swing.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but no more in the world of major of players.
Speaker 4: I don't know.
Speaker 3: It's a good question.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go he's underrated. I think I just did
Speaker 1: the math real quick. In his professional career, he's top
Speaker 1: ten to thirty five percent of his starts.
Speaker 3: So you get you throw us to the walls first
Speaker 3: and get out the calculator. While we're talking, Yeah, he come.
Speaker 1: Back, come back, you know, do quick, some quick math.
Speaker 1: And third, I mean that's pretty damn good in the
Speaker 1: longevity of his career. I think is other thing is
Speaker 1: like he's been a force in the game and a favorite,
Speaker 1: like I mean, how many how many I think right
Speaker 1: now is where we're getting, like even until last year,
Speaker 1: but this year he's obviously he's he's underperformed compared to
Speaker 1: what we're used to. But you know where he was
Speaker 1: like every single major he was a top ten favorite
Speaker 1: for you know, maybe twelve thirteen years.
Speaker 3: It's a pretty good careering. What do you care about
Speaker 3: the anchoring thing kind of changing career.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know. I think he had a lot
Speaker 1: of good years post anchoring. I mean he had you know,
Speaker 1: he was the end of the year in twenty sixteen,
Speaker 1: ranks seventh in the in the world, and he won
Speaker 1: twice that year, so.
Speaker 3: Back to back, right, yeah, or almost so.
Speaker 1: I think I think one of the things that I mean,
Speaker 1: we might look back eventually on the anchoring role and
Speaker 1: say it was like the worst role ever made, because
Speaker 1: they might you know, pull back, who knows, but the
Speaker 1: I think, uh, I think he was underrated and when
Speaker 1: you look at it from like a uh and and
Speaker 1: you know, he gift wrapped a open championship for my
Speaker 1: boy big earned you know that.
Speaker 4: I mean there were a few years there where he
Speaker 4: was like a consistent major. I mean, like what Brooks
Speaker 4: is doing right now. We talk about like he was
Speaker 4: doing that for a little bit, sure, and I think
Speaker 4: everyone's like, oh, if only he could put, he'd win
Speaker 4: so much. It's like, yeah, if you took any player
Speaker 4: and made their weakest part of their game of strength,
Speaker 4: they'd win a ton. But that's why they don't, because
Speaker 4: golf is hard, and nobody except Tiger is good at
Speaker 4: everything for an extended period of time.
Speaker 1: So overrated, underrated, The Irish and Scottish Open, underrated.
Speaker 3: I think they're fantastic as what as like prep for
Speaker 3: the Open?
Speaker 1: Yeah sure, oh, I don't know, whatever you want it
Speaker 1: to be.
Speaker 3: I think they're underrated. I think they're amazing. They're part
Speaker 3: of what makes July the best month of golf, and
Speaker 3: I love getting up, having coffee and having stuff resolved
Speaker 3: by Nune. I think they're awesome. I love both events
Speaker 3: and the same reason I love the Open. It's just
Speaker 3: a different look. I think we tend to kind of
Speaker 3: overweight you know, any results in show of form and
Speaker 3: all this stuff like as soon as Ricky hits a
Speaker 3: good shot, people are always winning the British Open. Yeah,
Speaker 3: as he you know, rolls into pludd it all and
Speaker 3: it's like, oh he's winning. It's like, I don't know,
Speaker 3: I just I think we might overweight the effects of
Speaker 3: playing well there.
Speaker 5: But I love them as tournaments on their own.
Speaker 4: I think this will got me in trouble last time
Speaker 4: with our controversial overrated, underrated episode a few months ago,
Speaker 4: but because I was making my take based on the
Speaker 4: golf hipster crowd, which I'm I don't know, I'm not cool,
Speaker 4: so I don't think I'm part of but.
Speaker 1: You're part of it.
Speaker 4: I think there's a I think just I think the
Speaker 4: I think it's more getting to the the flavor of
Speaker 4: the age. We just with social media, we just take
Speaker 4: some thing great and just beat it to death and
Speaker 4: just try to wring every last bit of content out
Speaker 4: of it. And there's that always that danger. But that
Speaker 4: being said, I think it is great to be able
Speaker 4: to get up early and watch golf. Unfortunately I don't
Speaker 4: have cable, so I can't. I don't watch them because
Speaker 4: I can't, but if I did have cable, I would
Speaker 4: watch them, and it would be quite enjoyable, so I'll
Speaker 4: say under There's no way I can say overrated, so
Speaker 4: I'll say underrated. But I don't know. I do think
Speaker 4: they're in danger of just us just beating them to
Speaker 4: death because they are so good, and that's just what
Speaker 4: we do with anything that's good.
Speaker 1: I wish they I wish they weren't back to back,
Speaker 1: and I know it's scheduled that way for a reason
Speaker 1: and for prep, but it would be nice to just
Speaker 1: get it every I don't know. I'm a big fan
Speaker 1: of the idea of like this World Tour, because like
Speaker 1: I think the Irish and the Scottish Open are so
Speaker 1: cool and I think you should. But like having them,
Speaker 1: you know, two weeks in a row, it diminished it,
Speaker 1: I guess it.
Speaker 4: I mean, it.
Speaker 1: Absolutely kills the PGA Tour of those two weeks because
Speaker 1: they get all the best players playing in them. But
Speaker 1: it would be cool to have it more, you know,
Speaker 1: like it. I mean, if I was, if I was
Speaker 1: running golf, I feel like we should have a monthly
Speaker 1: tournament in the British Islands, you know.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but I think it's okay for the European Tour
Speaker 4: to win like certain stretches of the calendar. I mean
Speaker 4: that I'm okay with that. I think that's I think
Speaker 4: it's good. I think it's healthy for the game. I
Speaker 4: think it's healthy for both tours. Like I think it's
Speaker 4: okay for them to win a couple of weeks just
Speaker 4: because it makes so much sense because after the US opened,
Speaker 4: most most European guys are headed back to Europe anyways.
Speaker 4: So I don't know, I'm totally cool with like the
Speaker 4: European Tour winning those weeks because it makes sense to
Speaker 4: have Irish and Scottish opens on least courses right before
Speaker 4: the Open Championship.
Speaker 1: All right, last overrated, underrated kilt overage.
Speaker 3: I have respect for you know, Native Scots who you
Speaker 3: know that's part of their history wearing them. I just
Speaker 3: think you get a lot of idiots that are trying to,
Speaker 3: you know, show off wearing them. I think like it's
Speaker 3: just become like a thing for like people to like
Speaker 3: put a sign look at me, and there's a lot
Speaker 3: of people who are like faking it and wearing skills
Speaker 3: wearing kilts just to kind of for the show and
Speaker 3: the attention. So overrated.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's kind of like with Saint I know they're
Speaker 4: different kind it's kind of what or like seeking pushing
Speaker 4: a national holiday of like some pride for the country
Speaker 4: or originated into just an American drinking festival because we
Speaker 4: bastardize it. I think that kind of what happens with kills.
Speaker 1: You over Huh. Yeah.
Speaker 4: It's nothing against kilts. It's just that if you're not
Speaker 4: wearing them because you come from a Scottish heritage and
Speaker 4: it's like a point of cultural pride for you, then
Speaker 4: you're you shouldn't be wearing it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm go overrated, not not in on them. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think I yeah, they're overrated.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 1: You know what what gets me is like when people
Speaker 1: are like, oh, look at that guy in a kilt.
Speaker 1: You know, Yeah, howpen does that happen in Chicago? I
Speaker 1: don't know. I just feel like it's like if somebody's
Speaker 1: wearing a kilt, everybody's like, oh, look at that guy
Speaker 1: in a kill. It's like, you know, what's the big deal.
Speaker 1: He's wearing a kilt.
Speaker 4: You know, Well, that's why that reaction, that's why he's
Speaker 4: doing it. He was playing in his hands.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well that's I'm not one like that. I just
Speaker 1: I just take it for what it's worth, and I
Speaker 1: don't pay him any more attention than I would somebody
Speaker 1: wearing pants or shorts, right.
Speaker 4: All right, I'm I'm always just a little bit nervous
Speaker 4: that he's actually not wearing anything under there, because there
Speaker 4: was a there was a rowdy group of probably guys
Speaker 4: that fit in the category that Brendan and I were
Speaker 4: discussing who were in an Irish bar that DJ Paiouski
Speaker 4: and I used to frequent in Orlando, and they were
Speaker 4: getting rowdy and we found out the hard way that
Speaker 4: he was not wearing anything under his killed. So that
Speaker 4: soured me as well to the whole killed situation.
Speaker 3: Orlando's natural place to wear a kilt. It's like, it
Speaker 3: seems like a natural habitat. And that's what I'm talking about.
Speaker 1: That that's why you should put It's the same reason
Speaker 1: you put Spaniards in big text, where.
Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly what they're overrated. It's dump and the people
Speaker 3: you know who wear cilts are you generally going to
Speaker 3: be terrible people? Now, I apologize for all that kind
Speaker 3: of This is a part of Scottish hairt you know,
Speaker 3: I'm not lumping in the Scots.
Speaker 5: That's a part of their heritage.
Speaker 4: No, you're you're defending the Scots.
Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, I'm saying it's been cops though co opted
Speaker 3: by a bunch of d bags.
Speaker 4: Actually, a lot of Canada is. There's a large Scottish
Speaker 4: Canadian connection. Nova Scotia means New Scotland because a lot
Speaker 4: of them moved to Scotland, I think, or to Canada.
Speaker 4: I think during the Potato fanine, which also hates Scotland,
Speaker 4: and so you have. I don't know you offended one
Speaker 4: people while defending another, but there's me a lot of overlap.
Speaker 3: Had a good five minutes on Kilts.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's uh. I have to acknowledge this because it
Speaker 1: you know, we talked about Fleetwood. Tommy Pelto also wanted
Speaker 1: to know, what's what's your favorite Fleetwood Mac song?
Speaker 4: I don't have one.
Speaker 1: Oh, very sad.
Speaker 3: Landslide.
Speaker 4: Yeah it was good. Actually, what I know?
Speaker 1: I think I'm going going dreams, dreams, dreams good.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I like that second Anti song too.
Speaker 5: I had a Fleetwood Mac that's no longer.
Speaker 1: Fleetwood Mac overrated, underrated, overrated.
Speaker 4: I'm not qualified to take part in this. I really
Speaker 4: don't know.
Speaker 1: I guess stop having non music fans on hipods.
Speaker 3: I know that's smart.
Speaker 1: Smart, i'd say underrated on over table doesn't.
Speaker 3: Let's listen to music.
Speaker 4: I mean listen to music, not fleewood back, I tell.
Speaker 1: You, all right, all right, all right, well that's disappointing
Speaker 1: Sean popping on Spotify when you can't sleep tonight us.
Speaker 4: I will, all right, guys, So no Pandora in the
Speaker 4: U cannot do it matters, No Pandora in the UK
Speaker 4: very just pointing to find out, not allowed.
Speaker 1: That's that's rough, like.
Speaker 4: Why the Brexit happens.
Speaker 1: I don't know, alrighty, all right, all right, we'll enjoy
Speaker 1: an open and uh may talk to you guys on
Speaker 1: Sunday or Monday.
Speaker 3: Sounds good, thanks, guys, all right, get.
Speaker 1: Some sleep, Sean, all right, you've.
Speaker 3: Been listening to the fried Egg podcast.
Speaker 1: We do the digging for you.