Speaker 1: All from Lizard.
Speaker 2: Hello, Hello, how's it going good?
Speaker 3: You know?
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, I mean, it's it's all right.
Speaker 2: What did you say your name was? If you said
Speaker 2: a name.
Speaker 1: You can just call me Lizard.
Speaker 2: Lizard brings you what brings you on the phone lines today?
Speaker 1: Lizard, I've got like two things, so like it kind
Speaker 1: of depends for sure, like I'm trying to figure out
Speaker 1: the vibe, but also what I really want to talk about, So.
Speaker 2: Just get honestly, I'd rather use tell me what you
Speaker 2: really want to talk about?
Speaker 1: Okay, Okay, cool. So I have a boyfriend and it
Speaker 1: is it is, It's I've been with him a while now.
Speaker 1: I've been with him a while now, and I don't
Speaker 1: there's you know, there's certain things within a relationship that
Speaker 1: I feel like, you know, loses its luster over time,
Speaker 1: and it's just it's hard to discuss that, I guess,
Speaker 1: you know. And yeah, yeah, mmm.
Speaker 2: Can you tell me more?
Speaker 1: Just like I think I'm his first real girlfriend. So
Speaker 1: he is, you know, learning of course, but there are
Speaker 1: some things that you can't really like learn by telling.
Speaker 1: And I feel like I don't know how to help
Speaker 1: to help him.
Speaker 2: Okay, Like.
Speaker 1: You're you're so close, dude, you're so close. You almost
Speaker 1: got it, but it just it doesn't right.
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes. How how old are you, guys?
Speaker 1: I'm twenty five, he's twenty six.
Speaker 2: Okay, and you're his first real girlfriend. And how long
Speaker 2: are you?
Speaker 1: Has been together for like eight years now.
Speaker 2: You've been eight years? Holy shit? Okay, so he's well,
Speaker 2: of course you're his first real girlfriend. You guys have
Speaker 2: been together for eight years for sure?
Speaker 4: For sure?
Speaker 2: Okay, And you're saying that things have lost their luster
Speaker 2: over eight years and you want him to do things
Speaker 2: but you don't want to have to tell him to
Speaker 2: do that.
Speaker 1: Well, it's not that I don't. I feel like I
Speaker 1: do tell him, but like he I don't know, man
Speaker 1: needs to like watch something or like may I don't know.
Speaker 1: I'm like at this point, like maybe you need to
Speaker 1: like hook up with another girl and like, I don't know,
Speaker 1: try things out.
Speaker 2: Okay? Are all of these are all of the are
Speaker 2: all of or most of these issues sexual? Or are
Speaker 2: they other types of things?
Speaker 3: No?
Speaker 1: I think it's I think it's just that because he's
Speaker 1: a great He's no o, we're all great. Guy, Like,
Speaker 1: I just don't know how to like I don't know
Speaker 1: how to help him out, you know, like I'm trying
Speaker 1: to give him but it's just like it's it's been
Speaker 1: hard for me. I guess in a way, I'm like, like, dang,
Speaker 1: because I've you know, I've had I've had a couple
Speaker 1: of boyfriends, so like I know my way around.
Speaker 2: But uh, well, I mean I don't know, man, you
Speaker 2: haven't had a couple of boyfriends, and hopefully you haven't
Speaker 2: had a couple of boyfriends in eight years.
Speaker 1: No, no, no, no no. But I'm just saying like I've
Speaker 1: you know, had relationships before and feel like I've learned
Speaker 1: my way and he hasn't had that type of experience.
Speaker 1: So I'm like, how do I help you help me?
Speaker 1: You know?
Speaker 2: Sure? But you were I mean listen, here's like you
Speaker 2: were what seventeen when you had these other boyfriends, and
Speaker 2: I assume these other boyfriends were also in high school.
Speaker 2: So I don't know if you've I don't I don't
Speaker 2: know if you've exactly run the gamut of you know,
Speaker 2: sexual experience at that time. But that's not but that's
Speaker 2: that's that's not important. Actually to go back to the present,
Speaker 2: you want him, Okay, So this is all mainly sexual.
Speaker 2: This isn't like I need him to hold the door
Speaker 2: open for me and he's not doing it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you've got that on lockdown. I'm just trying to
Speaker 1: help him out, you know.
Speaker 2: Okay, well, well, well way that he feels like.
Speaker 1: Oh man, I'm not doing enough or like I'm not
Speaker 1: helping out enough, and I'm like, bro, you're great, yeah.
Speaker 2: But he's he's not doing enough. What do you want?
Speaker 1: I just want him to like I don't know, I
Speaker 1: guess do not research, but like you know, like be like, oh, okay,
Speaker 1: she likes these things, you know, like let me like
Speaker 1: like figure out like what is?
Speaker 3: What is?
Speaker 1: What do you do when you're in this situation? Your
Speaker 1: girl likes this, like you know, like how do I
Speaker 1: work with her on this? But he's just like, ah,
Speaker 1: I don't know, you know?
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, but okay, So there's both of you guys
Speaker 2: are being like vague, you know, because if because you're
Speaker 2: over here and you're like, I don't want to have
Speaker 2: to tell him this thing. But I don't even think.
Speaker 2: I don't even know if you know what you don't
Speaker 2: know that you want to tell him.
Speaker 4: No, it's not that I do.
Speaker 1: I just don't know how to like tell him in
Speaker 1: a way or like show him in a way that
Speaker 1: he's like, oh, like, this isn't like her giving me criticism.
Speaker 4: This is her like.
Speaker 1: Showing me, Oh she likes this, this is the way she.
Speaker 2: Likes You know, what did you say? You're lizard? Lizard,
Speaker 2: you guys have been together for eight years. You can
Speaker 2: say to him, hey, I want you to do this.
Speaker 2: I want you to you know whatever the fucking thing is.
Speaker 2: You could just say to him that you want him
Speaker 2: to do it. You know, he has been together for
Speaker 2: eight fucking years. I mean, what is what you know?
Speaker 2: If this was a guy, if this was a guy
Speaker 2: that you were just getting to know and you didn't
Speaker 2: want to make him think that you didn't like him
Speaker 2: or whatever. Honestly, even if it was a guy you
Speaker 2: were just getting to know, it's like, do you gotta
Speaker 2: fucking tell the guy you know?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 1: No, I mean I have him. He just doesn't know
Speaker 1: how to. I don't know if that makes sense, Like, uh,
Speaker 1: like I don't know, do I I don't know. I
Speaker 1: just I don't want to like be like, hey, I've
Speaker 1: told you this and you're it's not really like matching
Speaker 1: up like to what.
Speaker 2: Okay, let's get if if you're okay with it, if
Speaker 2: we can get a little bit more specific, what are
Speaker 2: you trying to get? Are you trying to get hit?
Speaker 3: Like?
Speaker 2: Does he just not have the equipment to do or
Speaker 2: the stamina to do what you want him to do?
Speaker 2: Is this less about knowledge and more about uh hardware?
Speaker 1: No, no, it's not hardware at all. That's the crazy part.
Speaker 2: Okay, what is it? What is it about?
Speaker 1: It's just like I think, like, I don't know, like
Speaker 1: how do I explain this? I tell him what I like,
Speaker 1: maybe like being a little less gentle of course, and
Speaker 1: then and then it becomes like like a maybe like
Speaker 1: a performance a little bit, and I'm like, whoa slow
Speaker 1: down this is that's a little that's a lot.
Speaker 2: That's all right. So for example, so for example, you
Speaker 2: want like, for example, right you I assume you wanted
Speaker 2: to take control of the situation.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, But then when he does it, it's almost like
Speaker 2: you can tell that he's doing it in such a
Speaker 2: way that he wants his performance to be positively reviewed,
Speaker 2: and then it feels fake exactly. Yeah, Okay, yes, okay,
Speaker 2: that's what I find, Like how.
Speaker 1: Do I find a nice way to be like, hey, uh,
Speaker 1: I can tell.
Speaker 2: Just tell him just be, yeah, just tell him, just
Speaker 2: be like, listen, listen, here's the thing this is about.
Speaker 2: This is like an acting exercise almost. What you're trying
Speaker 2: to get this guy to do. You're like being You're
Speaker 2: like a director in this sense. It's like you're putting on.
Speaker 1: A plate gun right now, James gun is he's directing.
Speaker 1: I got it.
Speaker 2: Okay, Yeah, So here's your here's the thing, and what
Speaker 2: this guy is doing is, uh, he's putting on a
Speaker 2: thing instead of he's got to look within himself and
Speaker 2: find like his his like dominant sexual energy, and then
Speaker 2: you give him permission to do that and bring it out.
Speaker 2: And I don't know if he feels like you've given
Speaker 2: him the permission to go within himself and find that
Speaker 2: and like authentically bring it out. And so instead, what
Speaker 2: he's doing is like putting on a performance of what
Speaker 2: you think he wants when you want him to just
Speaker 2: like fucking you know want it, you know, so you
Speaker 2: gotta tell so just so you gotta tell him. You
Speaker 2: gotta be like, listen, listen, you're a fucking guy. You
Speaker 2: find me attractive, You have some form of dominant sexual
Speaker 2: energy within you. To go fucking find that ship and
Speaker 2: bring it to me. Don't uh pretend to be a
Speaker 2: character or something or put on a performance that you
Speaker 2: think I want. I want you to look with it.
Speaker 2: I want you to authentically desire this and find it
Speaker 2: in yourself. You know, So you gotta you gotta kind
Speaker 2: of kind of tell him.
Speaker 3: This is, this is why.
Speaker 1: It's literally like the simplest thing. But hey, I appreciate it, Yeah.
Speaker 2: For sure, you see if you did, if you, please
Speaker 2: bring him on the phone sometime. I want to hear
Speaker 2: this from his perspective because I feel like because I'm
Speaker 2: actually I'm curious about it because I don't like, maybe
Speaker 2: this is have you like like when I'm curious about
Speaker 2: this right because the thing of like he wanted, there's
Speaker 2: like an authentic thing within him that he's gonna find
Speaker 2: and bring out, Like have you when you first brought
Speaker 2: this up to him? How did it make him feel?
Speaker 2: Because maybe it is possible that he's putting on this
Speaker 2: performance because he doesn't have some authentic thing within him
Speaker 2: that wants to be more dominant, which is okay, but
Speaker 2: that could just be the nature of who he is.
Speaker 2: I don't know because I don't know this guy, Like
Speaker 2: how did he how did he respond to this?
Speaker 1: A little bit defensively? He just was upset that, like,
Speaker 1: you know, he's like, dang, like I wanted, you know,
Speaker 1: I wanted to like make it great, and I'm like, no,
Speaker 1: it's it is, but it's just there's like, you know,
Speaker 1: like something that could be fine tuned. He just he
Speaker 1: gets he beats himself up about it.
Speaker 3: Mm hmmm mm hmm.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's got to not do that. I mean that's
Speaker 2: his problem, right, but uh, you know, coach him, the
Speaker 2: coach him the best you can. Yeah, he's got to
Speaker 2: find it within himself.
Speaker 1: He got it. I'm hanging in there. I got a coach.
Speaker 2: Uh, is there anything else you want to say to
Speaker 2: the people of the computer before we go?
Speaker 3: Just have a great day or night.
Speaker 4: That's YouTube geck my.
Speaker 2: Lizard that that's this is my Uh, this is that's what.
Speaker 2: This is my first entry into doing like a couple's
Speaker 2: sex therapy with a guy in a gecko costume. I
Speaker 2: do believe that though, yeah, like if there's like if
Speaker 2: if no, if like an authentic desire from his side
Speaker 2: isn't there, she'll be able to tell. People can always
Speaker 2: fucking tell if you're h playing pretend in some way. Yeah,
Speaker 2: whether you're like acting or you're like doing uh but yeah,
Speaker 2: doing anything like people can always tell. Hell, what's up? Man?
Speaker 3: Oh my god, dude, am I really on the phone
Speaker 3: call with the get go?
Speaker 2: Oh yeah? What's your name? Brother?
Speaker 3: Oh dude, my name is Julian Bro.
Speaker 2: Nice to meet you, man, Nice to meet you too, Jeweli,
Speaker 2: and you got a good vibe to you.
Speaker 3: Oh dude, man, almost I did. Fuck, I'm nervous.
Speaker 2: Hold on, nah, don't be, this will be. This is
Speaker 2: low stakes, brother, don't worry, dude.
Speaker 3: I've been listening to your show for three years now.
Speaker 2: Man.
Speaker 3: I watch it every day while I'm out worth Dude,
Speaker 3: I wait every every week for you to drop a
Speaker 3: new episode.
Speaker 5: Man.
Speaker 2: Fuck yeah, fuck yeah, thank you man, I appreciate that.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, hell yeah, dude.
Speaker 2: Well listen, listen, Julian, let's get into you.
Speaker 5: Let's go.
Speaker 2: Let's let's hear what's going on in your life?
Speaker 3: Uh? Nothing much, man. Well my parents just split out too,
Speaker 3: so that's one thing that's going on.
Speaker 2: How long were they together for?
Speaker 3: Oh man, they've been together for like twenty seven years.
Speaker 2: I believe whoa interesting Yeah, and what was it that
Speaker 2: caused them to split up?
Speaker 3: Oh my mom cheated on my dad, so that was
Speaker 3: kind of a big reason. Yeah. Yeahn man, I was sorry, nervous, bro.
Speaker 2: No, do don't don't be man, We're just we're just chatting.
Speaker 2: You've nothing to be sorry for it all. How how
Speaker 2: old are you? I'm twenty three, man, twenty three so
Speaker 2: at the and your parents are just now getting divorced.
Speaker 3: They just did it in uh February.
Speaker 2: Okay, So, like, I don't know, it's interesting because like
Speaker 2: at twenty three, twenty two, you kind of had you know,
Speaker 2: you're an adult. You got your own shit going on.
Speaker 2: So it's like, I feel like my parents got divorced
Speaker 2: when I was god damn. Maybe like I must have
Speaker 2: been younger than ten. Yeah, I must have been younger
Speaker 2: than ten. So like I'm very heavily involved in the
Speaker 2: situation at that. Yeah yeah right, So what what was
Speaker 2: your level of involvement as an adult with this happening
Speaker 2: in terms of like, well it yeah.
Speaker 3: It was a it was a pretty bad to be honest,
Speaker 3: I I uh, well, not pretty bad. I used to
Speaker 3: go there all the time, you know, visit my parents.
Speaker 3: Take my daughter there with him, get let her know
Speaker 3: her grandparents and stuff, you know. So but I mean
Speaker 3: as an adult now, man, you know, I don't support
Speaker 3: cheating and nothing. If you're not happy, just leave. So
Speaker 3: like me, I haven't talked to my mom since that
Speaker 3: whole thing happens. So yeah, I haven't really much heard
Speaker 3: I haven't really heard much about her.
Speaker 2: So really, you haven't talked to your mom since this
Speaker 2: went down?
Speaker 3: No, sir, I haven't. She's been Uh, she's been m
Speaker 3: I A.
Speaker 2: What was your relationship like with her before this?
Speaker 3: It was, uh, it was decent, you know, pretty good,
Speaker 3: I believe, but she never really said nothing about her
Speaker 3: having a boyfriend or nothing. So that was kind of
Speaker 3: kind of weird when I first found out.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so this is the main thing that kind of
Speaker 2: broke your guys' relationship, Like it wasn't. It wasn't. Uh
Speaker 2: sort of fractured a bit beforehand.
Speaker 3: No, it wasn't. That was kind of what broke the
Speaker 3: capital back right there.
Speaker 2: What's your relationship like with your dad?
Speaker 3: Oh? Man, I talked to that guy every day, dude,
Speaker 3: I could. I'll talk to him.
Speaker 2: How's he doing?
Speaker 3: He's doing pretty good man. He's uh, still has problems
Speaker 3: with it here and there. You know, he'll call me
Speaker 3: sometimes to talk about it. But he's a he has
Speaker 3: to be taking it all right.
Speaker 2: And how old is he?
Speaker 3: He is forty six?
Speaker 2: Forty six. Yeah, both of you guys had kids fairly young,
Speaker 2: it sounds.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I had my daughter at seventeen.
Speaker 2: Man, WHOA Okay, yeah, pretty young. Huh yeah. I got
Speaker 2: questions for you about that later, but I'm yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: that's cool that you're so close with your dad. So
Speaker 2: is he like dating?
Speaker 3: Now?
Speaker 2: What's he doing?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 3: Man, he is dating, So check it out, dude. He recently,
Speaker 3: just not recently, maybe like two months ago, started talking
Speaker 3: to this lady. He talks with her every days, out
Speaker 3: with her, you know, and she has kids as well,
Speaker 3: so he met her kids already. But her kids had
Speaker 3: told my dad, if it's a something serious that you
Speaker 3: want with our mother, you know, when are we gonna
Speaker 3: meet your kids? But I'm kind of nervous about that
Speaker 3: because it's a it's a whole weird situation. You know,
Speaker 3: my parents have been together since I was born, and
Speaker 3: it's like a whole new experience for me.
Speaker 2: Oh, to start having like step siblings.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, interesting, yeah, because I I have uh four stepsisters,
Speaker 2: but I got to know all of them again when
Speaker 2: I was fairly young, so they've just always been there.
Speaker 2: It was not like a new thing, you know. Yeah,
Speaker 2: how did your dad meet this lady?
Speaker 3: Uh? Just partying, dude, just partying man party. Yeah, kind
Speaker 3: of started living his bachelor Yeah, his bachelor life.
Speaker 2: Wait, tell tell me, well, hold on, I got okay,
Speaker 2: now I have all Right, we're gonna be talking for
Speaker 2: a while. What's your name again, Julian man?
Speaker 3: Julian did you tell me whatever you want?
Speaker 2: Okay, I got Yeah, I'm bad with names, but uh,
Speaker 2: we're gonna be talking for a while. Have lots of questions.
Speaker 2: So he's partying. So actually, you know, I on a
Speaker 2: personal level, I'm curious about this because I'm you know,
Speaker 2: I love being out and about and running around doing things,
Speaker 2: being you know, out of my house. Like I don't
Speaker 2: I don't know if I could ever live like a
Speaker 2: fucking uh yeah, like a boring like suburban life. I
Speaker 2: don't think I could ever ever do that. But I'm
Speaker 2: I get a little worried because I'm like, well, I'm
Speaker 2: twenty seven, I'm fucking I want to have kids someday.
Speaker 2: I want to do this and that and the other thing.
Speaker 2: But your dad is forty six, he's gotta getah, I mean,
Speaker 2: I guess, I guess. Divorced and already raised a sun
Speaker 2: to the age of twenty two is pretty good. What
Speaker 2: is hi? What does him partying look like? Where does
Speaker 2: he go? What does he do?
Speaker 3: Oh? So I'm from California, man, so there's a bunch
Speaker 3: of nightclubs around from where I'm from, and uh, he
Speaker 3: goes very He hangs out on the weekend. He works
Speaker 3: throughout the week, which is good, you know, and then
Speaker 3: like Friday, Saturday, and Sunday, obi al hanging out with
Speaker 3: his new girlfriend or just by himself.
Speaker 2: What does he do for work?
Speaker 3: He works in the fields right now?
Speaker 2: The fields?
Speaker 3: Yeah, the great, he thinks. Great.
Speaker 2: But your dad picks grapes during the day and then
Speaker 2: goes to the nightclub at night.
Speaker 3: Yes, there, that's how my old man is.
Speaker 2: Dude. That sounds awesome.
Speaker 3: Oh man, he's cool. Man, I love him.
Speaker 2: That's so cool. Oh man, So what's he like? He
Speaker 2: just go out by himself? Like to can I ask, what, like,
Speaker 2: what city in California? You guys in.
Speaker 3: Quorterville. Man, Quorterville?
Speaker 2: Is that what the atre.
Speaker 3: T of order?
Speaker 2: Oh, Poulderville Order Order, Porterville? Okay, I'm way off.
Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, it's a It's an hour away from Bakersfield
Speaker 3: and three hours away from LA.
Speaker 2: What are the nightclubs like in Porterville?
Speaker 3: It's just all the old people, man, That's why you
Speaker 3: little going. You know, the younger generation they hit up
Speaker 3: the casino here in Porterville, but the nightclubs are more
Speaker 3: like older people, you know, trying to look out finding
Speaker 3: new partner.
Speaker 2: It cool, bro, Yeah, I don't know if anyone listen,
Speaker 2: if anyone deserved to be forty six years old at
Speaker 2: the nightclub, it is your fucking dad, you know. I
Speaker 2: think that's a because I think that's a good rule
Speaker 2: of thumb because your dad you're twenty two, so your
Speaker 2: dad had Yeah. So when your dad was twenty four,
Speaker 2: I mean, I don't know what. I don't know what
Speaker 2: his shit was like, you know, at that time. But
Speaker 2: when your dad's twenty four, he's, uh, he's not partying
Speaker 2: because he's taking care of Maybe he was, I don't know,
Speaker 2: but maybe maybe your dad can work hard, play hard
Speaker 2: like that. But I assume he's not partying as much,
Speaker 2: taking care of you and you know, picking fucking grapes
Speaker 2: during the day. I don't know how long that career was,
Speaker 2: but to now, you know, his fucking wife cheated on him.
Speaker 2: He's got a grown saw and he works, you know.
Speaker 2: And if anyone deserved to be partying it up at
Speaker 2: forty six, it's your dad.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Man, I encouraged it to you. Man. Once I found
Speaker 3: out he was kind of like sitting at home, you know,
Speaker 3: just suppressed, not doing nothing, badly wants to talk. I
Speaker 3: was like, hey, man, comal, let's go. I'll take you
Speaker 3: off somewhere, take him out. He loved it ever since then.
Speaker 2: He doesn't even need me no shit. So you got
Speaker 2: your dad into running around partying.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Well, me and my wife, dude, we uh, we
Speaker 3: felt kind of bad because we would talk to him,
Speaker 3: you know, and he sounded depressed. So we're like, hey,
Speaker 3: come on, let's let's go. Let's go off somewhere.
Speaker 2: So cool and what was his life like like? Like,
Speaker 2: what was his like day to day life like before
Speaker 2: all this?
Speaker 3: Man, he just come home, played with me and my brothers.
Speaker 3: You know, that was about it. Every once in a while,
Speaker 3: he'll pick himself up a little battery pack of beer
Speaker 3: and drink there. Watch his play. I was pretty much
Speaker 3: it man. That was his day to day life, just
Speaker 3: hanging out with his kids.
Speaker 2: M How many brothers do you got?
Speaker 3: I got to you.
Speaker 2: Are you close with them?
Speaker 6: Uh? The little one, yeah, I'm not so much the
Speaker 6: middle one.
Speaker 2: Is there a reason why?
Speaker 3: Uh? He just kind of went down the wrong path, man,
Speaker 3: Try to strain him out, couldn't do it, you know,
Speaker 3: I let him, Let him find out his own choices
Speaker 3: have consequences.
Speaker 2: Hm hmm. I won't pry if it's too much, but like,
Speaker 2: what what what were the choices?
Speaker 3: Well, me and him, we grew up playing a guitar
Speaker 3: and accordion, so uh he he recently joined a group
Speaker 3: and uh, he's just been going downhill after that.
Speaker 2: Man, you know those hold up, hold on, brother, I
Speaker 2: thought you were gonna say he like joined a gang
Speaker 2: or something. Not that he started playing accordion, so it.
Speaker 5: Was a not gang bang or nothing.
Speaker 3: You know. He Uh he hangs out with the with
Speaker 3: the artists here in uh in our town, and uh,
Speaker 3: you know, kind of the big party lifestyle leads down
Speaker 3: the wrong path and you know what I mean.
Speaker 2: I kind of don't to be honest with you, like
Speaker 2: because he doing like he's doing like hard drum and
Speaker 2: ship like that.
Speaker 3: H soma. Yeah yeah, but like.
Speaker 2: No, I still kind of don't know what you mean,
Speaker 2: Like it sounds like he's got like he plays the
Speaker 2: Accordon accordion. He's hanging out with like musician artist people.
Speaker 2: You know, maybe he doesn't you know, like what's like? Yeah,
Speaker 2: I guess, I'm I am. I'm a little curious.
Speaker 3: Oh, he just kind of does a coke I guess
Speaker 3: here and there. And I personally don't don't uh in
Speaker 3: uh what do you call it? Involve myself with those
Speaker 3: kind of people, especially with my daughter being around. I
Speaker 3: try to set a good example for my daughter, you know.
Speaker 7: Mm hmmm.
Speaker 3: So that's how.
Speaker 2: It is, man, Okay, And what about the youngest one.
Speaker 3: Oh man, that guy's a little gamer.
Speaker 6: Dude.
Speaker 3: All he does is just game.
Speaker 2: What's he playing?
Speaker 3: He loves Call of Duty, dude. He loves that hold
Speaker 3: call it duty at Fortnite, you know, you know the
Speaker 3: young kids play that. Yeah.
Speaker 2: I've never laid my hands on Fortnite ever in my life.
Speaker 2: I don't know anything about it.
Speaker 3: Really, man, it's pretty fun, man, it's pretty fun.
Speaker 2: How old is the accordion guy he is when he won?
Speaker 2: And you said you tried to straighten him out? What
Speaker 2: does that mean?
Speaker 3: Just try to give him, you know, advise, hey man,
Speaker 3: you know it's probably better not say, hang out with
Speaker 3: these kind of people, get involved with these kind of
Speaker 3: people that do this this drug, you know it. Maybe
Speaker 3: put yourself in the in the with the right group
Speaker 3: and then kind of progress from there. Make sure you
Speaker 3: cause he does a gigs here in you know, on
Speaker 3: the weekend. But the group that he's with isn't the
Speaker 3: best influence on him. Mm hmm.
Speaker 2: Okay. But but he's making the So it's mainly the
Speaker 2: drugs that's the problem.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I would say, so.
Speaker 2: Okay, And you don't think like it's better of the drugs.
Speaker 2: I guess he's on coca all like all the time,
Speaker 2: or he just like does it every now and then.
Speaker 3: Uh like every weekend he plays I guess.
Speaker 2: All right, yeah, and what do they all think of? Like,
Speaker 2: what's there all? What's all their uh? How are they
Speaker 2: all taking the divorce?
Speaker 3: Well, him, he doesn't really care. You know, he's got
Speaker 3: his own thing going. But me and my little brother
Speaker 3: just kind of Ah. You know, we're not used to
Speaker 3: the whole situation of our parents not being together because
Speaker 3: you know, we grew up with them being together. All
Speaker 3: we knew was them being together. So it's not the best,
Speaker 3: but we're kind of working through it.
Speaker 2: Did they have as close of a relationship to your
Speaker 2: dad as you do?
Speaker 5: Uh?
Speaker 6: Yeah, the little one, the little brother, but the middle
Speaker 6: one he doesn't really have a relationship with my dad
Speaker 6: for that same reason.
Speaker 2: M And nobody has heard from your mom. Your mom
Speaker 2: is completely m I.
Speaker 3: A completely Mia man. All last time I heard she
Speaker 3: has a boyfriend, but never met the guy or anything.
Speaker 2: Do you want your mom in your life or do
Speaker 2: you not care?
Speaker 3: Well, I'm I mean I kind of do want her
Speaker 3: in my life for the same reason that I wanted
Speaker 3: to see my baby, her grandchild. But she hasn't owned
Speaker 3: up to what she had done. You know, she still
Speaker 3: till this day, says that he didn't cheat on my dad,
Speaker 3: that there was a whooking going on that we didn't
Speaker 3: know about. But it all comes down to it. My
Speaker 3: dad has her on video with another guy at the
Speaker 3: cemetery late at night, so it's like, well, here's the evidence. Well,
Speaker 3: what do you want me to do? Mhmm, yeah, what do.
Speaker 2: You do for What do you do for work? Julian?
Speaker 2: Did you tell me already?
Speaker 3: No? I haven't, man. I think construction, bro, that's what
Speaker 3: I do.
Speaker 2: How long you been with your wife?
Speaker 3: I've been with her? Or since I was seventeen, man, seventeen, eighteen,
Speaker 3: nineteen twenty or two long two six years.
Speaker 2: I like your life, Julian. That's why I have so
Speaker 2: many questions you. You strike me as a I don't know,
Speaker 2: you're You're a real man. You know, you you're like
Speaker 2: the eldest of the two. Like it seems like you're
Speaker 2: like you're like the guy of the family. It feels
Speaker 2: like you're like the and you're what twenty.
Speaker 3: Three twenty three.
Speaker 2: And it seems like you're like the point person of
Speaker 2: the of the fucking family, you know. Like I mean,
Speaker 2: you're you're taking care of your you know, trying to
Speaker 2: get your brother off of drugs. You're getting your dad
Speaker 2: out at the club, being less depressed, You're taking care
Speaker 2: of a fucking kid. You're working at construction like you're.
Speaker 2: I got I got a lot of respect for you, man.
Speaker 6: Thank you, man.
Speaker 3: I appreciate it. Man. It is kind of hard, you know, mentally,
Speaker 3: but I'm sure I'm looking through it.
Speaker 2: That's really fucking cool.
Speaker 3: To try to be happy around my kid, you know,
Speaker 3: not not let those things affect me. But there's only
Speaker 3: so much you can do.
Speaker 2: Yeah, of course. So you got with your wife when
Speaker 2: you were seventeen and then like, yeah, how soon after?
Speaker 2: Like was it just like was it like a one
Speaker 2: night stand to turn into a pregnancy that you decided
Speaker 2: to keep?
Speaker 3: No, we had been going out for I want to say,
Speaker 3: like two months and then COVID hit, and then once
Speaker 3: COVID hit, we both got it. So we were kind
Speaker 3: of sleeping in the same room and you know, you're bored,
Speaker 3: don't have nothing.
Speaker 4: To do all day.
Speaker 2: So you have a kid.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so you have a kid, you know, get the
Speaker 3: time rolling.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's pretty much my life right there. Man.
Speaker 2: It's interesting though, because like, yeah, kind of like your dad.
Speaker 2: It's like you, you know, I think there's yeah, obviously,
Speaker 2: I think having a kid at seventeen has a lot
Speaker 2: of fucking downsides. But if you had to find an upside,
Speaker 2: it's like, well, you'll be done sooner like your dad,
Speaker 2: you know.
Speaker 3: Oh hell yeah, man, my dad. I think he had
Speaker 3: me at like twenty and right now all his kids
Speaker 3: are grown up, you know. The youngest is eighteen. Yeah,
Speaker 3: and that guy's enjoying life right now, going to the club,
Speaker 3: loving life now. And I'm probably I'm happy for me, know,
Speaker 3: I want him to be happy. I want to help
Speaker 3: him find someone, and it seems like he did already.
Speaker 2: My dad is sixty something, and he he said to
Speaker 2: me once, he was like, you know, the nice thing
Speaker 2: about having kids is that the only really take up
Speaker 2: a lot of time from your life for like sixteen years.
Speaker 3: And then pretty much they're on their own.
Speaker 2: And then they're on their own. And it's funny the
Speaker 2: way he said it, the way I took it. I
Speaker 2: was like, sixteen years, it's a long time. But then
Speaker 2: to see my dad being like, you know, he's older
Speaker 2: and he's enjoying his life still, it is cool. You know,
Speaker 2: it's like, oh, I guess maybe that is like.
Speaker 3: Not that long, oh man. Like my daughter right now,
Speaker 3: she's four. Yeah, she's learning. Man. She has full sentences
Speaker 3: with you. She'll ask you, she'll I'll come home from work,
Speaker 3: she'll ask me how's your day, dad? Oh man? Cool,
Speaker 3: And it's crazy. Man. She blows my mind sometimes on
Speaker 3: the questions that she asked me.
Speaker 2: That's so cool.
Speaker 3: But yeah, man, oh yeah, it's my bad, dude. I'm
Speaker 3: just kind of nervous. Man. I've been doing for so
Speaker 3: I don't know how long.
Speaker 2: Dude, You got nothing to nervous about it at all?
Speaker 2: Does your wife work?
Speaker 3: She just finished school, man, she's trying to get a
Speaker 3: job right now.
Speaker 2: What's she trying to do?
Speaker 3: Phlebottom?
Speaker 2: Oh like drawing people's blood and ship?
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, that's what That's what she went to school for.
Speaker 3: And the job Mark did for that is kind of low,
Speaker 3: so there's a she can't release a new job right now.
Speaker 3: But like I told her, man, hey, my incomes to
Speaker 3: worry about that.
Speaker 2: Oh ship, Yeah, Julian, your phone is sucking up real quick,
Speaker 2: your phone is sucking up.
Speaker 3: Oh my bad, man, my bad.
Speaker 2: No worries. What were you saying? I?
Speaker 3: Like I told her, man, my incomes supports both of us,
Speaker 3: so she doesn't really have to worry about finding a
Speaker 3: job right now.
Speaker 2: Are you getting in a car?
Speaker 3: Yeah? Man, I'm beating work right now.
Speaker 2: Oh what are you gonna do when you get home? Uh?
Speaker 3: Just hang out man, pretty much that's about it. Hang out,
Speaker 3: play with my daughter for a little bit. That's pretty
Speaker 3: much my day.
Speaker 2: When you're forty six years old, do you do you
Speaker 2: plan on going to the club?
Speaker 3: Well, if I'm seeingle, yeah, but if not, I'll plan
Speaker 3: on goal with my wife.
Speaker 2: That's cool. What do you guys like to do outside
Speaker 2: of just your regular life?
Speaker 3: Pretty much nothing. Now we keep it simple. We just
Speaker 3: like hanging out with each other. It's pretty much it.
Speaker 3: Anywhere I go, she goes, anywhere she goes, I go. Yeah.
Speaker 3: What about you, man, how are you doing.
Speaker 2: I'm doing I'm doing pretty good. Uh yeah, I'm doing
Speaker 2: pretty good. I'm learning to enjoy my life bit by bit.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, man, you need life right there.
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah. I haven't spending too much time trying to
Speaker 2: be anywhere else except where I am. Causes a lot
Speaker 2: of dissonance. What else was I going to say to you?
Speaker 3: Oh?
Speaker 2: Yeah, you said it's hard. You said your life is hard.
Speaker 2: Sometimes you have a heart, you seem like you have
Speaker 2: a difficult thing. I mean, you have a lot of
Speaker 2: people who you're looking out for.
Speaker 3: I just kind of gets to me a little bit
Speaker 3: because at the same time I'm happy for my dad.
Speaker 3: That he's going out, you know. But I'm not mad.
Speaker 3: It just bothers me a little bit because, like I said,
Speaker 3: all I knew was my parents being together. So I
Speaker 3: just kind I just kind of get got to get
Speaker 3: used to the experience.
Speaker 2: I guess, why did you say that all you needed
Speaker 2: was your parents together?
Speaker 5: Well, no, I didn't.
Speaker 3: I didn't need them together. It's just like all I
Speaker 3: knew was them being together.
Speaker 2: Oh sorry, I had misheard you. Oh yeah, what do
Speaker 2: you think about your So you haven't met your dad's girlfriend?
Speaker 3: No, I haven't, man, haven't. Well, I've met her once
Speaker 3: and it just so happened that there was a checkpoint
Speaker 3: when they're getting home from the club and his girlfriend
Speaker 3: didn't have a driver's license. This was I got two
Speaker 3: in the morning. Man, So I guess my dad didn't
Speaker 3: want to call me because he didn't want me to
Speaker 3: meet her yet. But I guess they had no one
Speaker 3: else that's the driver's license. So that was the only
Speaker 3: time I've ever met her. M Yeah, but I guess
Speaker 3: he's met her kids and everything, and now her kids
Speaker 3: are trying to meet us, and I don't know how
Speaker 3: to go about that.
Speaker 2: Are you would you? That sounds like nice though, right,
Speaker 2: don't you want to meet them?
Speaker 6: Yeah?
Speaker 3: It sounds nice, But just like I said, man, it's
Speaker 3: just like a new experience for me that I'm not
Speaker 3: used to. Mm hmmmm yeah, Like like when you meet
Speaker 3: your step sisters. How how did that?
Speaker 5: How was that?
Speaker 4: God?
Speaker 2: I don't even remember it because I've known my stepsisters
Speaker 2: for so long, although I remember I was really young
Speaker 2: when I met them, so I think I felt a
Speaker 2: little bit of like resistance, like I think that they
Speaker 2: felt when I was younger and my parents were divorced,
Speaker 2: and my dad would like bring home someone new and
Speaker 2: I would meet them, and uh, you know, even my
Speaker 2: step mom for a long time. I think for a
Speaker 2: long time, my step mom felt very foreign to me.
Speaker 2: I remember I was, I like, was at a diner
Speaker 2: once with my dad and my now stepmom, I don't
Speaker 2: know if they were married yet, and I had like
Speaker 2: a ice cream Sunday or whatever, and I offered my
Speaker 2: dad a bite of it with the spoon, and that
Speaker 2: he offered my stepmom a bite of it with the
Speaker 2: same spoon, and then I said, uh, I'm gonna go
Speaker 2: get a new spoon. Okay, I felt, and you know,
Speaker 2: I remember that, and I and I'll say, honestly, even
Speaker 2: remembering that, I feel really bad about that because it
Speaker 2: made sense to me when I was a kid to
Speaker 2: like just reject this foreign presence like everything. Yeah, it
Speaker 2: just made it made sense to me to reject that
Speaker 2: and to like be upset about that for no real reason.
Speaker 2: And now that I'm older, I understand that, Uh, like,
Speaker 2: well I lucked out. I really lucked out because my
Speaker 2: my stepdad is amazing and my step mom is amazing,
Speaker 2: and like those are two really great people, and you know,
Speaker 2: I'm glad that my both of my parents found people
Speaker 2: for them and I got I used to for a
Speaker 2: long time. Yeah, like I wouldn't. It took me. How
Speaker 2: old am I? It took me like ten years to
Speaker 2: like say I love you to my stepmom and like
Speaker 2: take and like understand that she was like trying to
Speaker 2: like be a part of my life and she was
Speaker 2: trying to be helpful and she was trying to be
Speaker 2: good to me. Yeah, and that like I was, you know,
Speaker 2: I mattered to her, and to like take that. My
Speaker 2: step my step sisters, I don't I haven't really uh
Speaker 2: you know, I see them, but I they kind of
Speaker 2: you know, they they live in different places and they
Speaker 2: have their own lives.
Speaker 3: But yeah, you don't really get to see them in much.
Speaker 2: No, not really, but yeah, when I, yeah, growing up,
Speaker 2: they felt like kind of strangers to me. And as
Speaker 2: I get older and I become and it's it's a
Speaker 2: it's a straight up just like maturity thing of like,
Speaker 2: as I get more mature, I try to be like, oh,
Speaker 2: these these are people. These are people that people I
Speaker 2: care about, care about, and I should be I should like,
Speaker 2: I should like really accept the the family, and you know,
Speaker 2: I should you know, have a long term view, like
Speaker 2: these people are gonna be in my life. These people
Speaker 2: are my family. I should take that in with me
Speaker 2: and I should really, like, uh, put in active effort
Speaker 2: to make it so that these people are family. And
Speaker 2: even the idea, the idea that somebody who's not blood
Speaker 2: related to you can be family was foreign to me
Speaker 2: for my entire like childhood and adolescents. And that's I
Speaker 2: think that's even like a thing. I think that's a
Speaker 2: difficult thing for like a adolescent to understand.
Speaker 3: You.
Speaker 2: No, I don't know if that was just that, but yeah.
Speaker 3: I'm willing to meet them, you know, I don't I
Speaker 3: don't have nothing against her or her family, you know,
Speaker 3: like they said, if it's something serious between them two,
Speaker 3: well when are we gonna meet your kids? And same
Speaker 3: thing I told my dad, you know, well, if it's
Speaker 3: serious between you and her, when are we going to
Speaker 3: meet her and kids? But he still hasn't gotten back
Speaker 3: to me on that because he's, uh, he's out working
Speaker 3: and partying.
Speaker 2: So yeah, I mean I think if you're I think
Speaker 2: if your dad really likes this lady, you should totally
Speaker 2: you should totally meet her.
Speaker 3: Well, yeah that's what I'm well, I mean, I do
Speaker 3: want to, but at the same time, I just kind
Speaker 3: of don't. So I'm just stuck in between those two
Speaker 3: right now.
Speaker 2: Yeah, fair enough, but.
Speaker 3: You know, you know how it goes.
Speaker 6: Man.
Speaker 3: But yeah, like I said, I if it's really something
Speaker 3: serious between then two, I'm I'm willing to meet them.
Speaker 3: I have nothing against them, you know, if they love
Speaker 3: my dad and I love them too. I guess.
Speaker 2: It was nice talking to you. You're a cool guy.
Speaker 3: Nice. Thank you, man. I thought I've been waiting so
Speaker 3: long to talk to you. Man.
Speaker 2: Yeah, this is sorry.
Speaker 3: That was the only thing I bought up.
Speaker 2: But I have Julian, you have nothing to be sorry
Speaker 2: for this was a really nice It was really nice
Speaker 2: talking to you. Uh yeah, thanks for giving us this
Speaker 2: little peek into your life. This is These are the
Speaker 2: things I like about doing this show.
Speaker 3: Man, and I love watching your show. D I'll up
Speaker 3: in my earphones and I'll listen to your podcast.
Speaker 2: All day and man, thank you brother. Is there anything
Speaker 2: else you want to say to the people of the
Speaker 2: computer before we go?
Speaker 3: No, I get no. I just kind of keep on going. Man,
Speaker 3: that's what you can do.
Speaker 2: You beautiful, Good luck with everything. Julian, take take care.
Speaker 2: Tell your dad. I tell your dad. The Internet gecko
Speaker 2: guy that you listen to says hello.
Speaker 3: Hell yeah, man, thank you, Lyle. I appreciate it.
Speaker 2: Bro, Thank you, Julian. You have the rest of the night.
Speaker 2: Man you do. That was Julian. I liked that guy
Speaker 2: a lot that I was cool. Uh shit, what else? Yeah,
Speaker 2: I was cool, he had a cool life. I like
Speaker 2: hearing about his dad. Really just a man, I feel
Speaker 2: I've talked about this on the show so many times.
Speaker 2: I don't know if anyone who listens to it relates,
Speaker 2: But there's so many people that I meet on doing
Speaker 2: this show or like talk to on the phone that
Speaker 2: are like younger than me, or that I'm like, this
Speaker 2: person is so much more of like a man than
Speaker 2: I am, like so much more of an adult. That's
Speaker 2: really what it is. I think that that's really what
Speaker 2: like fucking being an adult is. Is like if you're
Speaker 2: the cause, Like I'm sitting in a chair right now,
Speaker 2: I could sit in this chair until I died of starvation,
Speaker 2: and it would like nobody else would die if I
Speaker 2: did that, Like everything every I mean, people would be upset.
Speaker 2: I have people in my life who would be upset
Speaker 2: if I died, of course, but they wouldn't like other
Speaker 2: than mentally there, they would be able to continue their lives.
Speaker 2: I think it's one. I think it's once you have
Speaker 2: other things that require you to not die, like I think, Yeah,
Speaker 2: I think that's the difference between like uh, I think
Speaker 2: that's what makes an adult is like some massive amount
Speaker 2: of responsibility. Uh and yeah, and yeah it's cool man
Speaker 2: like the way Julian like, you know, his fucking kid,
Speaker 2: he's trying to help his brothers, he's trying to help
Speaker 2: his dad. Like he's he's a good guy. I like
Speaker 2: that guy a lot. Hello, what's up?
Speaker 3: You're joking?
Speaker 2: I'm not. It's me. What's going on?
Speaker 4: Oh no, this is simultaneously a great time and also
Speaker 4: a bad time.
Speaker 2: Oh okay, why is it a bad time?
Speaker 4: I'm at my dad's house for dinner and it's his birthday.
Speaker 4: He's putting clothes in the laundry right now.
Speaker 2: Oh, do you have time?
Speaker 3: Well?
Speaker 2: So, why is it a great time?
Speaker 4: Because I can't believe this just happened. My little brother
Speaker 4: told me to call it, and so I did.
Speaker 2: Do you have time to talk for like a little bit?
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I'll give it.
Speaker 3: I'll give it a good few.
Speaker 5: Minutes, all right.
Speaker 2: Cool?
Speaker 4: My brother to go between and let my dad know
Speaker 4: what's going on.
Speaker 2: Okay, cool? How old is your dad turning?
Speaker 4: He was born in nineteen seventy four. He's fifty one.
Speaker 5: He's fifty one.
Speaker 2: How's he doing?
Speaker 3: He's doing pretty good.
Speaker 4: Go tell him what's going on?
Speaker 5: All right?
Speaker 4: He just came back.
Speaker 2: Go inform your dad of the situation.
Speaker 4: Yeah no, I can't believe this is happening. Uh So
Speaker 4: I actually sent you an e and you read it
Speaker 4: very recently.
Speaker 2: Oh really, okay, tell me what the was? What the
Speaker 2: email was?
Speaker 4: I went to the concert. I was going to go
Speaker 4: by myself and then I won free tickets and I
Speaker 4: took my family.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I remember that. Yeah, you said nothing good ever happens.
Speaker 4: To you, not particularly this that would qualify as something good.
Speaker 2: Do you what? I Yeah? What else did you say
Speaker 2: in that email? Was that it?
Speaker 4: I mean, I wrote you before a while ago because
Speaker 4: I I I talked about burning my journals.
Speaker 3: I have.
Speaker 4: I moved back home like seven months ago. Now I'm
Speaker 4: shaking a little bit, but we're doing it. Uh. Yeah,
Speaker 4: I moved back home. I was with my partner that
Speaker 4: I had been with for almost eight years and went
Speaker 4: through some mental stuff being on my own that it
Speaker 4: just didn't quite work out, and I was bringing us
Speaker 4: both down a little bit. Oh, I came back home.
Speaker 2: Hmm, I have been How have things been since you've
Speaker 2: been back home?
Speaker 3: Good?
Speaker 4: Good for the most part. Like I mean, I'm healthy.
Speaker 4: I'm healthy and I'm here. I only smoke weed as
Speaker 4: I whisper, and I don't do anything crazy. But at
Speaker 4: the same time, oh my, I get my social interaction.
Speaker 3: From your show.
Speaker 2: You get all of your social interaction from my show.
Speaker 4: I would say ninety percent of it.
Speaker 2: By Like are you do you talk in the twitch
Speaker 2: chat or you just mean by like by like listening, no,
Speaker 2: by proxy podcast like by listening to the podcast. Yes, okay,
Speaker 2: I have multiple things to say to you.
Speaker 3: Mm hmm.
Speaker 2: What did you say your name was?
Speaker 4: It might be ready, It's Alexis Alexis.
Speaker 2: Well, first of all, thank you for listening to the show.
Speaker 2: I appreciate it. But I do need to inform you
Speaker 2: that this doesn't it doesn't really count as social interaction.
Speaker 4: I'm very much aware I had a feeling.
Speaker 2: You were aware of that. Okay, where's the.
Speaker 4: I'm like fifty of the way there.
Speaker 2: This this vaguely counts as social interaction. Yeah, this vaguely
Speaker 2: counts as social interaction. This counts as much as social
Speaker 2: interaction for both of us. I would say, yeah, uh, okay,
Speaker 2: where's the other ten percent come from?
Speaker 4: I live with my I mean, I live with my family,
Speaker 4: so I think pretty much that's my day to day.
Speaker 4: There's four people in my house, so it's like relatively busy.
Speaker 4: But at the same time, I just I don't go out.
Speaker 4: I go out for appointments, I go out for work,
Speaker 4: and that's pretty much it. I mean I had friends
Speaker 4: when I moved, you know, a year ago from my
Speaker 4: old job. But once I came back, I was kind
Speaker 4: of like, well, I disappeared off the face of the earth.
Speaker 4: It'd be really weird to just kind of sert myself
Speaker 4: back into their lives.
Speaker 2: Do you like your well, I have multiple questions. Do
Speaker 2: you like your family? Do you like hanging out with them?
Speaker 3: I do?
Speaker 4: I have, I mean, one younger brother that keeps me
Speaker 4: on my toes, and then my older brother that I
Speaker 4: can just like, you know, be myself with. And I'm ah,
Speaker 4: that's just I mean, she's she's she's great, she's over
Speaker 4: protected that type.
Speaker 2: But yeah, how does your little brother keep you on
Speaker 2: your toes?
Speaker 4: He's just a goof. He's very connected to the internet,
Speaker 4: so he keeps me a price on whatever the hell
Speaker 4: is going on on the internet, even though I don't
Speaker 4: want to know about it. He does a lot of editing.
Speaker 4: He does a lot of editing. He does soccer videos.
Speaker 4: Boys got twenty one thousand followers.
Speaker 2: Cool on TikTok.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's crazy.
Speaker 4: He's going to be fourteen soon.
Speaker 2: Cool. That's awesome.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I know, yeah, doting moreshit with his life
Speaker 4: than I am right now.
Speaker 2: I used to edit videos when I was like, yeah,
Speaker 2: when not. Yeah, yeah, I started, I started making movies.
Speaker 2: I started, I mean I was editing videos. Yeah, when
Speaker 2: I was like fucking ten or some shit. I feel
Speaker 2: like the the Internet. Yeah, well I have multiple thoughts
Speaker 2: because I'm like, what on some level I get scared of,
Speaker 2: like the version of the Internet that the youth are
Speaker 2: in now. Yes, but then I'm like, how old are you?
Speaker 4: I'm twenty seven?
Speaker 2: Okay, Yeah. Our our version of the Internet when we
Speaker 2: were fourteen, it wasn't it. It wasn't that fucking different.
Speaker 4: Like I don't I don't even know what I used
Speaker 4: the Internet for. I use it for email.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but like I don't know, like we had like
Speaker 2: fucking you know, Tumbler, and we had like our own
Speaker 2: weird yeas and ship. Like it's not like our our
Speaker 2: brain rot wasn't as like maybe it's the like the
Speaker 2: like the short form video endless scrolls. Ship is a
Speaker 2: little yeah different now, but anyway, that's a a's a
Speaker 2: tangent from the other. You're good as a tangent.
Speaker 4: It's just everything on the Internet now was like it's
Speaker 4: just over stimulating.
Speaker 2: Yeah, their Internet is definitely a little bit more stimulating. Man,
Speaker 2: I'm unked out. I don't remember. There's some there's a
Speaker 2: lot of things I was gonna ask you before I
Speaker 2: went on that you're good.
Speaker 4: I'm just like I I wasn't even like allowed, Like
Speaker 4: I wasn't allowed to have even an email until I
Speaker 4: was in like fourth grades, so I was just not
Speaker 4: even on the internet. Like. That's good though, Yes and no,
Speaker 4: I'm definitely an introvert.
Speaker 2: So do you want more social interaction in your life?
Speaker 4: I do?
Speaker 3: Yes.
Speaker 4: I feel like I mean, people call and they say
Speaker 4: the same thing all the time. It's so hard to
Speaker 4: make friends like organically, and all the people that I
Speaker 4: work with right now, I'm just working at a like
Speaker 4: a fast food place basically, and they're all like twenty
Speaker 4: years old. M the kid managers.
Speaker 2: Uh So, where did you move from? And then where'd
Speaker 2: you move to?
Speaker 4: I was so I grew up in Chicago and I
Speaker 4: moved to Ohio for like I was there for maybe
Speaker 4: like eight months. I almost made it a year. Yeah,
Speaker 4: now I'm back to Chicago.
Speaker 2: Are you like, like, are you like deep suburbs Chicago
Speaker 2: or like how close are you to the city?
Speaker 4: No, like right now I'm in the middle of the city.
Speaker 4: Like my dad, Uh lives in like the Mexican neighborhood,
Speaker 4: so it's it's been popping here a little bit. The
Speaker 4: school that my brother goes to sometimes they won't let
Speaker 4: the kids out because of like ice in the neighborhood,
Speaker 4: and like there's phone trees for people to you know,
Speaker 4: drop their kids off that you know, for like one
Speaker 4: person who's going to pick up ten kids and bring
Speaker 4: them all home. Like it's kind of.
Speaker 2: Nuts over here, Oh because of ice. Yeah, that's fucked up.
Speaker 2: That's crazy.
Speaker 4: Yeah, this is the first time I've been over here
Speaker 4: like in a while, but my mom's house, where I'm
Speaker 4: normally at is like just outside of the city.
Speaker 2: Yeah, didn't they just do like a whole like insane
Speaker 2: fucking raid.
Speaker 4: I'm pretty sure I know that they were fucking like
Speaker 4: tear guys and the cops themselves, Like I don't know,
Speaker 4: I don't. Yeah, I'm like I really like as much
Speaker 4: as I stay off I stay off the internet for
Speaker 4: like everything I'm on Reddit, that's pretty much it.
Speaker 2: Well, I well, actually, you know, because you stay here,
Speaker 2: let me say it, Because you stay off the internet,
Speaker 2: you're the best person to ask because it's like, if
Speaker 2: something's happening and you know about it, even not being
Speaker 2: on the internet. That means it's like fucking real, you
Speaker 2: know what I mean?
Speaker 4: Yeah, yes and no, yes and no I hear something,
Speaker 4: it's just like like all that can't I don't know
Speaker 4: if that's real or I hears something that is real
Speaker 4: and I'm like, but it's fake though, I'm like they
Speaker 4: made it up.
Speaker 2: Well. I just mean to say, like, if like, if
Speaker 2: you're like, if you're like on Twitter, like you'll find
Speaker 2: a new thing to be outraged and pissed off about
Speaker 2: every day. But if you're like, oh yeah, and if
Speaker 2: you're like walking around the street and living your life
Speaker 2: and witnessing things to be upset about, that that's you know,
Speaker 2: that's like uh.
Speaker 4: You know, yeah, just different level of impactful. I guess, right.
Speaker 2: Okay, so you live in a big, major city, so
Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't I'm not going to go
Speaker 2: on the whole rant that I always go on, but uh,
Speaker 2: you you can have social reaction outside of my podcast
Speaker 2: if if.
Speaker 4: You desire, Yeah, I think I think I'll get there
Speaker 4: soon enough. I mean, I'm gonna be tired of being
Speaker 4: cramped up in my house. But now it's winter, nobody
Speaker 4: wants to go outside.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, Chico sucks in the winter.
Speaker 4: It's already less than fifty degrees and it was like
Speaker 4: seventy last week.
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, why do you say that nothing good happens
Speaker 2: in your You seem like you seem like dissatisfied with
Speaker 2: your life. I don't know if I'll be able to
Speaker 2: change that on this phone call, but i'm I we
Speaker 2: can talk about it if you want to.
Speaker 4: Just like the quick of it. I mean, I've I've
Speaker 4: been in that out of school for ten years now,
Speaker 4: you know, college, uh, and it's just I'm I thought
Speaker 4: I wanted to be a doctor who was just one
Speaker 4: of those things, and I was like, wow, this sucks.
Speaker 4: And now I'm trying to go to nursing school. But
Speaker 4: I've been trying to go to nursing school for probably
Speaker 4: like five years, just you know, health and mental health
Speaker 4: things have just kept me kind of in this loop.
Speaker 4: But I think when I, uh, I moved so, I
Speaker 4: mean when I moved away, a lot of the like
Speaker 4: the guts and the inspiration honestly came from listening to
Speaker 4: your podcast of like you just have to try some shit,
Speaker 4: and I was like, I, you know, I need to try.
Speaker 4: I need to try living on my own, and like
Speaker 4: I was going to school out there too, and I
Speaker 4: kind of had like this my plan was set at
Speaker 4: that point, but it was set you know, with my partner,
Speaker 4: and so when that kind of changed, all that went away.
Speaker 4: It was like all that motivation was kind of gone.
Speaker 4: It was like, you know, now my future looks different
Speaker 4: and now it's really up to me to figure that out.
Speaker 2: When did you break up with your partner.
Speaker 4: In February?
Speaker 2: So it's up to you to figure out your future.
Speaker 4: It's heavy shit.
Speaker 2: Kick it is heavy shit.
Speaker 4: Okay, though I'm gonna drop the but how are you doing?
Speaker 2: No, it's no, it's heavy, it's heavy shit. It's uh yeah.
Speaker 2: That's one of the scarier that That's when I had
Speaker 2: my existential crisis is when when life got Yeah, because
Speaker 2: when you uh, well, at least from like one to eighteen,
Speaker 2: life is pretty on the rails, right, and then it
Speaker 2: gets a little and then like when you go to
Speaker 2: college maybe and it's it's still on the rail, and
Speaker 2: then you're twenty two and then something like I felt
Speaker 2: like I had my eccential crisis because I felt like
Speaker 2: my life was like on the rail like things were
Speaker 2: figured out in some sense for a while, and then
Speaker 2: they and then they and then I realized the future
Speaker 2: was up to me and that was really spooky heavy ship.
Speaker 2: Ah yeah, And then where do you go from there?
Speaker 2: I don't know. That's like, it's like trying to It's
Speaker 2: a very open problem.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Uh. But you can't fester in it or else you
Speaker 2: will you will die.
Speaker 4: Bro, I've a beenfest No, You're good, I've been festering.
Speaker 4: But I'm like, have that I haven't. I'm moving very slowly.
Speaker 4: I think, I'm I do see. I see a couple
Speaker 4: of therapists and they're telling me that I might be
Speaker 4: graduating on to a new therapist. So I feel like
Speaker 4: that's progress.
Speaker 2: What does that mean? You graduate onto a new therapist?
Speaker 4: I Uh. The issue that I have is I have, like,
Speaker 4: all right, I have a history of like eating issues,
Speaker 4: not eating enough, that kind of stuff, and because of that,
Speaker 4: I have like sick, like vomiting episodes. It's pretty wild.
Speaker 4: So I've been to the er for that kind of stuff.
Speaker 4: And when I was in Ohio, it got really bad
Speaker 4: and I so I needed to come home because I
Speaker 4: needed like medical help and mental help. So that's Yeah,
Speaker 4: that's the quick of it. So I was seeing a
Speaker 4: gi psychologist like gastro psychologists, which I didn't know they existed.
Speaker 4: Could be a ploy for more money, but they sent
Speaker 4: me there and it helped, So I might be moving
Speaker 4: on to someone else now. Stuff works. It is one
Speaker 4: of those things. But it's like it's a marathon.
Speaker 2: What kinds of stuff do you eat?
Speaker 3: Now?
Speaker 4: Oh my god? I mean I eat like a child.
Speaker 3: I Uh.
Speaker 4: The best thing that I eat is probably like black
Speaker 4: bean burgers. I just had minnestroni minnestroni soup for dinner.
Speaker 3: Is it?
Speaker 4: What is ministrone soup? Yeah, it's a vegetable soup. It's like,
Speaker 4: uh Italian. It's really just like noodles, tomato based potatoes,
Speaker 4: carried zucchini, whatever the hell you want to put in there.
Speaker 3: That sounds normal, Yeah, delicious.
Speaker 4: I eat a lot of pizza same and a lot
Speaker 4: of a lot of pasta, a lot of bread.
Speaker 1: I have.
Speaker 4: I've had the same thing for breakfast every day since
Speaker 4: March of banana peanut butter and banana smoothie.
Speaker 2: Wait, that's what I have every day for breakfast?
Speaker 4: Are you shitting me? Right now?
Speaker 2: Every day for breakfast I have a smoothie with peanut butter,
Speaker 2: almond milk, banana, and a dash of protein powder. O.
Speaker 4: It's delicious.
Speaker 2: It's delicious, and it keeps me pretty full. I think
Speaker 2: it's healthy. Let me know, okay, if anyone in I okay,
Speaker 2: because I've been eating this. The first time I discovered
Speaker 2: a peanut butter banana smoothie with almond milk, peanut butter, banana,
Speaker 2: and protein powder, I was like, wait, this tastes really good.
Speaker 2: There might I don't and I don't know a lot
Speaker 2: about I'm not a nutrition guy. Uh, let me know
Speaker 2: in the comments, folks, is that healthy? Is there anything
Speaker 2: like it seems anything that like tastes really good. I'm like,
Speaker 2: there's gotta be something bad about eating this every day.
Speaker 2: But it's see, I mean like peanut butter is a
Speaker 2: normal food, Bananas are a normal food. Protein powder is
Speaker 2: I guess normal? Like it seems like you know, you
Speaker 2: know what I mean. It's not like a milkshake, but
Speaker 2: it feels milkshaking exactly exactly. So there's always a catch.
Speaker 2: There's always a fucking catch, And I want to know
Speaker 2: if there's a catch.
Speaker 4: As far as I know, there there isn't one, and
Speaker 4: I would not like to know about it.
Speaker 2: If there is, I want to know about it.
Speaker 4: If there is no, it would destroy my routine.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, they yeah, No, food's been Actually, food's been
Speaker 2: pretty good lately because I'll yeah, I'll have the smoothie
Speaker 2: and then the protein ship. It like kind of keeps
Speaker 2: me satiated for a while till it's till it's time
Speaker 2: for you know, lunch.
Speaker 4: Yeah, which we must we must have.
Speaker 2: I guess, Yeah, why have you been skipping meals?
Speaker 3: Oh my god?
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm a I'm a smoothie person. And then I'll
Speaker 4: like snack and then at dinner time.
Speaker 2: As yes, press about what I'm doing lately, But that's
Speaker 2: good for like losing weight. I don't know if that's
Speaker 2: your what's what you're on.
Speaker 4: No, it's not what I'm trying to do. And the honestly,
Speaker 4: I put so much peanut butter in the shape it's
Speaker 4: like it's it's like a maintenance thing. It's like as
Speaker 4: as many calories as I can get in there.
Speaker 3: Mmm.
Speaker 2: Fuck, I feel like an idiot asking your name again.
Speaker 4: But it's okay.
Speaker 2: I could have remembered. I could recall pretty much everything
Speaker 2: you told me in this phone call, except for your name.
Speaker 4: It's okay. I trust you.
Speaker 2: Quiz me. Ask me anything about your life. I'll remember it.
Speaker 4: Where did I move from Ohio?
Speaker 2: Wait?
Speaker 5: Yeah?
Speaker 2: No, no, wait? Do you move from Chicago to Ohio? Ask
Speaker 2: me another thing? Keep asking me question.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I guess that was a bad question.
Speaker 3: That was a bad question.
Speaker 2: No, no, that wasn't That was a good question. Keep going.
Speaker 4: How many therapists do I have?
Speaker 3: Mm?
Speaker 2: Three?
Speaker 4: Almost it's two?
Speaker 3: Okay, my brother says.
Speaker 4: Six or seven?
Speaker 2: Ask me? Ask me three more questions about your life.
Speaker 4: I feel like you're cuising me on myself right now.
Speaker 2: No, I'm trying to quiz myself on you because.
Speaker 4: Because how many brothers do I have?
Speaker 2: Two? But you just said that.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: But also sometimes you'll just say your name and I'll
Speaker 2: forget that. So good?
Speaker 4: Can you tell me my name? Does that count?
Speaker 2: Alexis? That doesn't count?
Speaker 3: You have to all right?
Speaker 4: Oh? When did I say I broke up with my partner?
Speaker 2: February?
Speaker 5: Nice?
Speaker 4: That's impressive. How many followers does my How many followers
Speaker 4: does my little brother have on.
Speaker 2: TikTok twenty one?
Speaker 4: That's awesome? Yeah, he does.
Speaker 2: See, it's just not my name, I already forgot. No,
Speaker 2: it's Alexis.
Speaker 3: But it's okay.
Speaker 2: Yeah, this is because I and I've gone on this
Speaker 2: rant so many times. But like, uh, I remember certain things.
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 2: Sometimes I feel like my memory Sometimes I feel like
Speaker 2: I'm I have dementia. Dude, I don't know. I can't
Speaker 2: tell if I can't tell if doing this makes my
Speaker 2: you know, how like people retire and then their dementia
Speaker 2: gets worse. Like working like is good for your brain
Speaker 2: in some way, you know what I mean. I can't
Speaker 2: tell if doing this makes me dumber or smarter. I
Speaker 2: think it's theoretically it should make my brain better.
Speaker 4: I think it does. I think it does. But there
Speaker 4: definitely is a memory component. You talk to so many people,
Speaker 4: that's a whole lot of information. M it's a combo.
Speaker 4: But you said your journal and that's I think that's
Speaker 4: good for your brain too.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I have done that in a while. You know,
Speaker 2: go long periods of time without journaling.
Speaker 4: Same, I'm I'm at five years of not journaling right now.
Speaker 2: Yeah, probably how come you haven't how come you haven't
Speaker 2: journaled in five years?
Speaker 5: Oh?
Speaker 3: God?
Speaker 4: That I definitely I think I may have wrote you
Speaker 4: an email about that.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, right, okay, remember you said
Speaker 2: you burned.
Speaker 4: Your I did say that journals I wanted to, I
Speaker 4: wanted to I have, I have a lot. I have
Speaker 4: a lot of I have years worth probably maybe like
Speaker 4: a good six year span worth of journals that sometimes
Speaker 4: I'll read through them and be like, it's cool, I'm
Speaker 4: not in that place anymore. And then I kind of
Speaker 4: wanted to do that when I came home to read
Speaker 4: them again because I felt like such shit, but I
Speaker 4: kind of decided not to, and I still have them.
Speaker 4: But I feel like if I write, I'm just gonna
Speaker 4: I'm just gonna.
Speaker 2: Talk shit the whole time, talk about your life.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think so, I don't know, it might come
Speaker 4: out kind of angry, but I guess that's the point.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, Sometimes I wonder if, like that's that's been
Speaker 2: my whole thing with journaling, because sometimes I wonder like
Speaker 2: if all of because I have so many journals that
Speaker 2: are just like depressing journals, yea, and you look back
Speaker 2: at them and you're like, I don't want I don't
Speaker 2: want I don't want to keep a record of this.
Speaker 2: I'd like to forget about this. Yeah, I have angry ones.
Speaker 4: Yeah, No, some definitely some questionable things in there.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Man, I was reading a journal from like seven
Speaker 2: years ago where I was I was saying some insane
Speaker 2: things and.
Speaker 4: It's kind of fun though, like maybe now that I'm
Speaker 4: in a better place, I can go back and read it.
Speaker 2: M hmm. Yeah, I was saying some insane things and
Speaker 2: I was like, uh, I think it's it's good that
Speaker 2: I wrote that. Now it's now honestly like, yeah, now
Speaker 2: that I'm now that, I'm noticing that my life is
Speaker 2: a recurring series of me. I'm looking back at journals
Speaker 2: from seven years ago and I'm like, oh, my life
Speaker 2: is a recurring series of me. You know, there's been evolutions,
Speaker 2: there's been yeah blohledy blah. But I'm reading some I'm
Speaker 2: reading journals like seven, eight years ago whatever, and I'm like, Okay,
Speaker 2: there's evolutions here, but there's little tiny core maybe angers
Speaker 2: or sadnesses or even joys or annoyances or whatnot that
Speaker 2: are still like the core of them still exists with
Speaker 2: me eight years later. This feels fucking weird.
Speaker 4: M No, it's a weird feeling to be like, oh,
Speaker 4: I'm still the same person that I was ten years ago,
Speaker 4: but I'm not.
Speaker 2: I don't not this year. Right, You're not exactly the same,
Speaker 2: but you're also kind of totally the same.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I uh, I feel it. As much as I
Speaker 4: hate to say this, I I feel like to wrap
Speaker 4: it up a little bit. You sho, I do wanna.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 4: What you said made me think of something that, uh
Speaker 4: from my previous like group therapy experience. There was a
Speaker 4: girl who one time we had to draw something, right
Speaker 4: that like reflected something.
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 4: I'll try to remember it as best as I can,
Speaker 4: but her drawing was just of a big spiral, right,
Speaker 4: It was just a spiral. And she's like, basically, life
Speaker 4: is like this, right. You're you start in the middle,
Speaker 4: and every time you go around the circle, you might
Speaker 4: end up back in the same place, but you're looking
Speaker 4: at it from a different perspective, and you're still you
Speaker 4: just kind of you know, going around and around. But
Speaker 4: every every time you have more you know, you're looking
Speaker 4: at it from a different place, so you have more
Speaker 4: knowledge or this or that.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, I hate that. I'm gonna think about
Speaker 2: that every day for the rest of my life.
Speaker 4: You're not the only one that was probably like seven
Speaker 4: or eight years ago, and I still think about it
Speaker 4: all the time.
Speaker 2: I'm definitely going to be thinking about that.
Speaker 4: It just helps me not feel as bad.
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, yeah, life is a spiral. You start from
Speaker 2: the bit that makes that makes such perfect sense. But
Speaker 2: it's good, you know, No, no, I no, no, I know,
Speaker 2: I know. I know exactly what the visual metaphor. I
Speaker 2: understand the visual metaphor perfectly, I think. But you're expanding
Speaker 2: outwards and you're growing, so that's good. You're not you know,
Speaker 2: you're not it's bad. Yeah, You're not in a circle.
Speaker 2: You're in a spiral. A spiral has forward momentum outward exactly,
Speaker 2: but you keep going in cycles to get to that
Speaker 2: forward momentum. So it is it is an optimistic shape
Speaker 2: to live life. Yeah, yes, all right, I'll let you
Speaker 2: get back to your dad's birthday party. But thanks for
Speaker 2: talking to me.
Speaker 4: No, I really appreciate it.
Speaker 2: You want to say to the people at the computer
Speaker 2: before we go.
Speaker 4: I think I said it. I think that was my thing.
Speaker 4: Just just keep on going. You'll figure something else out soon.
Speaker 2: Alexis okay, I remember, Okay, I have a good night. Alexis,
Speaker 2: thank you for calling.
Speaker 3: Thank you, Lyle.
Speaker 4: You have a good night too bye.
Speaker 2: That was Alexis. Well hello, hello, Oh it's the gecko guy.
Speaker 5: Oh what's up?
Speaker 2: What's up with you?
Speaker 5: Man? I'm trying to catch these mice?
Speaker 2: Man, Well, you're with me, you're trying to catch mice? Yeah, okay.
Speaker 5: For a couple of days.
Speaker 2: Uh. Can I have some context for this?
Speaker 5: Well, we my partner and I moved into a new spot,
Speaker 5: new house like two months ago, and uh, yeah the
Speaker 5: house was mice. They're running around. Uh. We set out traps.
Speaker 5: They're not they're not they're not biting at the traps,
Speaker 5: and uh we see them like two to three times
Speaker 5: a day. It's almost like they're used to us. H.
Speaker 2: Well, I I have a question, why not just live
Speaker 2: with the mice as if they are like your pets
Speaker 2: or like, why do you need them gone?
Speaker 5: It's a good question. I feel like they're giving me
Speaker 5: constant jump scares and that is uncomfortable as I'm just
Speaker 5: trying to live my life.
Speaker 2: What do you look like when you're just trying to
Speaker 2: live your life.
Speaker 5: Oh that's a good question.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 5: I cook a lot of food, Uh, which the mice
Speaker 5: seems to like. Uh, I'd say that's like one of
Speaker 5: my main hobbies. I go out and go on a run.
Speaker 5: That's something I've picked up recently, kind of a a
Speaker 5: new thing for me. Uh. And then at other times
Speaker 5: I go to work. And I guess Thence probably liked
Speaker 5: that the best because they get to they get to
Speaker 5: run them out without any of destructions.
Speaker 2: Mm hmm. Okay, well, I mean, is having mice in
Speaker 2: your life. It doesn't sound like mice would really interrupt
Speaker 2: your life all that much. It sounds like they're just
Speaker 2: kind of there.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean there, it's it's uncomfortable having them around. Sure,
Speaker 5: we just had to we had to move all the
Speaker 5: food that we had in our sort of like common
Speaker 5: space pantry into uh yeah, into our spaces. They leave
Speaker 5: the mouse poop everywhere.
Speaker 2: Okay, And like, why does I don't why does life
Speaker 2: have to be so perfect?
Speaker 3: You know?
Speaker 2: Why don't you just.
Speaker 5: Know it's real?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 5: And I and you know, I think I other places
Speaker 5: in my life I feel like I'm more accepting of
Speaker 5: that imperfection of life. Yeah, But I feel like my
Speaker 5: uh my home space, that's like the the one thing
Speaker 5: that I kind of want to be closer to perfect
Speaker 5: if possible.
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean that's life, right, is we We would
Speaker 2: like for there to not be mousepoop in our house,
Speaker 2: you know, sometimes they're sometimes they're just as mouse poop, Yeah,
Speaker 2: our house, so you can't get rid of it, and
Speaker 2: sometimes it's sometimes life is about learning to deal with
Speaker 2: the mouse poop in your house.
Speaker 5: Absolutely, no, I uh, I'm with you on that.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 5: Do you have any advice for having mice besides uh?
Speaker 5: Besides uh, I don't know the wider general outlooks of
Speaker 5: advice that you just gave me. I don't know.
Speaker 2: No, if you're looking for like logistical advice on how
Speaker 2: to get rid of mice from your house, I am
Speaker 2: absolutely one of the worst people to ask about that.
Speaker 3: That's fair.
Speaker 5: That's fair.
Speaker 2: Is there anything else I want to say to the
Speaker 2: people of the computer before we go.
Speaker 5: Oh, nah, I'm gonna I'm gonna leave this one open ended. Okay, Yeah,
Speaker 5: thanks Lyle. I appreciate uh, appreciate you calling.
Speaker 2: For sure you have a good rest of the day.
Speaker 5: Thank you you too.
Speaker 3: Well.
Speaker 2: I wouldn't want mice in my house either. I wouldn't.
Speaker 2: But if I don't know, yeah, that's life. Sometimes sometimes
Speaker 2: you get mice in your house and you can't get
Speaker 2: rid of them, and you you can move, you can
Speaker 2: call someone who knows how to get rid of mice.
Speaker 2: That's what I would do if I were this guy.
Speaker 2: I would not have called me for this at all.
Speaker 2: But yeah, or you could just be like, all right,
Speaker 2: that's what's happening to me. I guess you could take it.
Speaker 2: Sometimes that's a good strategy. It's a good strategy only
Speaker 2: if there's no other practical way to deal with the situation.
Speaker 2: It's that Napoleon meme. Do you guys know what I'm
Speaker 2: talking about. There's like a Napoleon meme that's like, there's
Speaker 2: nothing we can do, there's nothing. Hold on, fuck sh
Speaker 2: there's something we can do, Napoleon. Yeah. Yeah, I encourage
Speaker 2: everyone to look this up. There's nothing we can do.
Speaker 2: And I don't know what's the history of this. Okay.
Speaker 2: The phrasing bodies hopelessness based on Napoleon's exile to the
Speaker 2: island of Saint Helena, where he died. Yeah, sometimes you're
Speaker 2: just exiled into having mice in your house and there's
Speaker 2: something you can do. There's a Japanese expression for this Shogun,
Speaker 2: I Shogun. I hello, folks, it's Lyle here. That's the
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Speaker 7: I found this girl who lives in Pittsburgh, but we
Speaker 7: go to the same college together in Houston, and they
Speaker 7: had a lot of money, and I just went on
Speaker 7: this vacation with them. I don't know how to feel,
Speaker 7: man like. I've just seen some shit with money, like
Speaker 7: they just throw it around, man like. I couldn't comprehend that,
Speaker 7: and I guess I get jealous, which turns into anger.
Speaker 7: But I want to stay with her because she has money.
Speaker 2: First of all, Yeah, you're really going to stay with
Speaker 2: this girls just because she has money.
Speaker 3: I love her well, I didn't mean to say it
Speaker 3: like that.
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Speaker 2: All right, I have nothing else to say.
Speaker 8: Again, goes on the line, taking your phone calls every nine.
Speaker 8: Deacon goes to his I. He's teaching you cloud in
Speaker 8: the mean of your life. Money's not really an expert.