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Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Nancy Grace busted the so called glamorous

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Speaker 1: friend star Matthew Perry At this hour, federal indictments going down.

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Speaker 1: I'm Nancy Grace, this is Crime Stories. Thank you for

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Speaker 1: being with us. Two doctors, two drug dealers, and Perry's

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Speaker 1: than his well being. A so called kennemye queen. Let

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Speaker 1: me tell you something, lady. That birkenbag and all those

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Speaker 1: of this girl. Well, they don't have Burken and they

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Speaker 1: color orange. Get used to it. This woman living in

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Speaker 1: and likely been doing it for years. In her rarefied

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Speaker 1: little black book. Oh yeah, they do. So who is

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Speaker 1: the so called ketamine queen and why is she living

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Speaker 1: themselves into thinking certain drugs are glamorous, you know, like

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Speaker 1: cocaine or ecstasy, designer drugs, ketamine. It's not glamorous. It

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Speaker 1: best the Betty Ford clinic, to this clinic, to that clinic,

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Speaker 1: and this woman is sitting in her claw foot tub

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Speaker 1: It's not glamorous. Let me just kick it off right

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Speaker 1: now to doctor William Maroney. Doctor Maroney, listen to this.

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Speaker 2: Radio.

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Speaker 3: One of droning.

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Speaker 4: Federal prosecutors alleged that Perry first obtains ketemine from an

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Speaker 4: unscrupulous doctor aiming to take advantage of the actor's addiction issues.

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Speaker 4: Doctor Salvador Placentia teaches Perry's living assistant, Kenneth Ewa Massa,

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Speaker 4: how to administer the drug and provides ketamine to both

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Speaker 4: Perry and Ewa Masa at exorbitant prices. When the drugs

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Speaker 4: including jazzvin Songha dubbed the ketamine Queen.

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Speaker 1: You know to doctor William Moroney joining me, renowned medical examiner, toxicologist, pathologist,

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Speaker 1: opioid treatment expert, and author of American Narcan that would

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Speaker 1: have saved the life of Prince and so many other

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Speaker 1: the misconception is flourished, as it did about Matthew Perry,

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Speaker 1: that ketamine and other so called designer drugs are glamorous.

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Speaker 1: They're not. All of those abusers end up in one place,

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Speaker 3: Explain, Ketamine is never really meant to be self administered,

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Speaker 1: Ketamine is once a month.

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Speaker 3: In his last day, according to testimony, three three times.

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Speaker 3: He was given ketamine injections the day he died. It's

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Speaker 3: meant to be given once a month under supervision during therapy.

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Speaker 3: Ketamine is a plan. And this is so out of control.

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Speaker 1: Okay, you know what. I appreciate all of that. But

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Speaker 1: what I I asked you, doctor, my longtime colleague and friend.

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Speaker 1: can you show me the dealer, the glam ketamine queen,

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Speaker 1: Does this woman care? No, no drug dealer cares. What

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Speaker 3: Morony, Well, at higher doses than needed, it sedates you,

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Speaker 3: Because it's an anesthetic, nothing can change the classification. It's

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Speaker 3: Is people think they can get away with it. These

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Speaker 3: have been cocaine, could have been alcohol, stitutamine, and they say, okay,

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Speaker 1: Eventually you need to hold on, doctor Moroney, because that's

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Speaker 1: exactly what happened right here. I'm trying to drink in

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Speaker 1: everything you're saying. I'm just a tryal lawyer. You're the professional,

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Speaker 1: the toxicologist, the pathologist, and you've even written the book

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Speaker 1: people's lives to doctor Bethany Marshall, Doctor Bethany Marshall, Finally

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Speaker 1: somebody brings down the hammer on this drug operation. And

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Speaker 1: this is not, according to sources, the first person that

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Speaker 1: has lost their lives to the Please very people, listen,

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Speaker 5: The two lead defendants in this case are defendants Salvador

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Speaker 5: Placentia and defendant Jesseviine Sanya. Defendant Placentia was a medical doctor.

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Speaker 5: He worked with another medical doctor, defendant Mark Chavez, to

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Speaker 5: obtain ketmy. He then worked with mister Perry's live in

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Speaker 5: opportunity to profit off of mister Perry. She sold approximately

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Speaker 5: fifty vials of ketamine for approximately eleven thousand dollars in cash.

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Speaker 5: She worked with a broker defendant, Eric Fleming, and also

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Speaker 1: A tangled web of dopers, you know. Doctor Bethany Marshall

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Speaker 1: Breaker Doctor Bethany. I'm just thinking of all the drug

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Speaker 1: lords and dopers that I have prosecuted put behind bars

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Speaker 1: over all the years. You know, this woman we're looking at,

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Speaker 1: there's so glamorous and her high end lifestyle. She had

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Speaker 1: did you grow up on a farm you went with

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Speaker 1: your parents all around the world as a missionary? Correct?

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Speaker 6: Yes, grew up in Central West Africa, Congo.

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Speaker 1: Okay, then you've seen a tick. I assume you know

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Speaker 1: bloods Absolutely, yes, that's who she is. Every time I

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Speaker 1: And that is what she was doing with Matthew Perry.

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Speaker 1: And I guarantee you he's not the first.

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Speaker 6: You know, she was going out selling one more vile

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Speaker 6: she was just really satisfying her own greed. And what

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Speaker 6: makes me so sad, Nancy, is that people suffering from

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Speaker 6: some substance abuse disorders are extraordinarily vulnerable. Matthew Perry was vulnerable.

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Speaker 6: He was chasing that next high. His brain was craving

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Speaker 6: And by the way, so do About fifteen percent of

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Speaker 6: What more than fifteen percent of all Americans over the

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Speaker 6: in this past year. Of those Americans, only six point

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Speaker 1: Listen to this, everybody, Mike McCormick joining me, owner, lead

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Speaker 1: investigator mcmm mother c Charlie m Mother Investigations, former LAPD

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Speaker 1: over twenty five years. Listen to this, Mike. It is

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Speaker 1: reported that the Ketamine Queen supplied twenty five vials of

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Speaker 1: ketamine four days to Parry just four days before his death,

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Speaker 1: and boasted as she sold it to him as it

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Speaker 1: amazing now. Immediately after his death, is reported she messaged

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Speaker 1: her co conspirators, according to the state, stating delete all

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Speaker 1: she knew. She knew Mike McCormick. And there's no way

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Speaker 7: That's true. It's going to be probably a lot more

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Speaker 7: I think the assistant Kenneth definitely didn't do his job.

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Speaker 6: He should have.

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Speaker 7: He should have brought in the family members and made

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Speaker 7: And we have been able to actually save Matthew from

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Speaker 1: But instead of trying to save him, Mike, everyone enabled

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Speaker 8: Perry turned to a street dealer, Eric Fleming, who sourced

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Speaker 8: his ketymine from a drug trafficker known as the Ketemine

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Speaker 8: Queen Jasvine Sangha. The ketymine supplied by Sanha would ultimately

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Speaker 1: Despite this knowledge.

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Speaker 8: She continued to sell ketamine and methamphetamine throughout Los Angeles.

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Speaker 1: President West Coast Trial Lawyers, author of Harvard to hashtag Nima.

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Speaker 1: It was slow in coming, but finally the Fed's hand

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Speaker 1: down a major indictment. I'm happy they did it, But

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Speaker 1: do you think if they had acted earlier, Perry's life

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Speaker 2: Probably man See, let's not forget that Sanga was responsible

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Speaker 2: and it was kedemene that she provided.

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Speaker 1: That killed them that same day. And the political.

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Speaker 2: Reality is that they spend a lot more time investigating

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Speaker 5: They distributed approximately twenty vials of ketamine to mister Perry

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Speaker 5: in exchange for fifty five thousand dollars in cash. Defendant

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Speaker 5: Placentia saw this as an opportunity to profit off of

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Speaker 5: mister Perry. He wrote in a text message in September

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Speaker 5: twenty twenty three, quote, I wonder how much this moron

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Speaker 5: will pay. He also stated in text messages that he

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Speaker 5: wanted to be mister Perry's sole source of supply. He

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Speaker 9: I wonder how much this moron will pay? Let's find out.

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Speaker 9: Text messages reveal the motivation of those charged in Matthew

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Speaker 1: Joining us right now, Lauren Colin, investigative reporter and star

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Speaker 1: of Crime Time on YouTube, Lauren Colin, thank you for

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Speaker 1: being with us. So who while they're literally killing him

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Speaker 10: That, Lauren Conlin, Yes, this is doctor Salvator Placentia who

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Speaker 10: before Matthew Perry's death, Salvator Placentia shot up Matthew Perry

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Speaker 10: that was not the case, and just very quickly Nancy

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Speaker 1: Guys, speaking of Matthew Perry quote freezing up listen.

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Speaker 5: Defendant Placentia knew full well the danger of what he

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Speaker 5: vials of ketamine for defendant Iwamasa to administer to mister Perry.

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Speaker 5: Of course, defendant Ewa Masa had no medical training to

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Speaker 1: Doctor William Maroney joining me, renowned toxicologist and pathologist, author

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Speaker 1: opioid and substance abuse. Doctor Moroney, I've heard it stated

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Speaker 1: I'm not sure what that means, but it didn't stop

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Speaker 3: What it actually comes down to is ketamine is an anesthetic,

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Speaker 1: They do freeze up.

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Speaker 3: You freeze somebody up at the side of their pool

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Speaker 3: then the final day when he died, he got three injections.

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Speaker 1: Back to him freezing up. That is what going into

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Speaker 3: What is that muscle stiffness and the early stages of anesthesia,

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Speaker 1: How exactly did the scheme wart listen?

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Speaker 11: Doctor Salvador Placentia obtains ketamine for Perry from doctor Mark Chavez.

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Speaker 1: Crime on YouTube. Lauren, So let me understand this. They

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Speaker 10: This is absolutely absurd, Nancy. And let's not forget that

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Speaker 10: it was all made up. They literally just did this

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Speaker 10: three days before Matthew Perry's death, he was administering between

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Speaker 10: Doctors prescribed that, oh boy, I would be shocked.

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Speaker 1: Doctor Bethany, the price differential. You can get the same

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Speaker 1: he's paying two thousand dollars for one vial, Doctor Bethany,

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Speaker 1: speaking of blood sucking ticks. Not only do they aid him,

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Speaker 6: In their text, Nancy, they had disregard and disdained for them,

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Speaker 6: But who are the morons? They killed their cash cow

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Speaker 6: then all of a sudden, the house manager would come

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Speaker 6: addictions like Matthew Perry, the people around them are bloodsucking

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Speaker 6: of doctor Placentia has UCLA Healthcare on his lab jacket,

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Speaker 9: One doctor notes Matthew Perry's addiction as spiraling out of control.

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Speaker 9: Still Perry is sold twenty mials of ketamine, totaling fifty

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Speaker 1: Finally, federal indictments go down. I'm thrilled about the indictments,

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Speaker 1: this as I'm calling them blood sucking ticks that lived

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Speaker 1: I'm just glad the charges occurred. Now we're talking about

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Speaker 4: Listen, Doctor Salvador Placentia's exorbitant prices pushed Matthew Perry to

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Speaker 4: seek a new ketamine source. Assistant Kenneth Ewa Massa reaches

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Speaker 4: the drugs with cash from Ewa Masa. Songha is well

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Speaker 4: Cody mclory, died of an overdose on the drug four

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Speaker 1: We were just talking about a guy named Cody mcclauri,

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Speaker 12: Jazzvien Songha sells Cody mclowery several vials of ketamine. Later

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Speaker 1: You know that's the thing, Doctor William Maroney, renowned toxicologist.

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Speaker 1: Dr Maroney, dopers don't care. The family goes to sing

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Speaker 1: y'all and says, you did this to Cody, and she's like,

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Speaker 1: oh okay, Google, Google, Google, can kennymy be listed as

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Speaker 1: It's how this horrible effect. Cody is dead. No, she

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Speaker 3: I mean really, Ketamine is listed as cause of death

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Speaker 3: his death is considered an accident because the CDC says

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Speaker 3: Clearly, always ketamine will be listed as a cause of death.

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Speaker 1: Always name it. Romani, former federal prosecutor turned trial lawyer Nima.

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Speaker 1: Why is it that all the so called rich, glamorous

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Speaker 2: I don't think so, Nancy. Like I said, there's two

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Speaker 2: It's only because she's going to identify her source. I

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Speaker 1: Want to work their way up the chain.

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Speaker 2: Kennemine is a huge problem in LA right now.

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Speaker 9: Perry's live in assistant admitted to repeatedly injecting the actor

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Speaker 1: One celeb after the next dead from overdose, probably drugs

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Speaker 13: Today, How are you doing it? In security?

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Speaker 9: From burdle Hilton h right?

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Speaker 6: What going on?

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Speaker 13: I need a paramedic. Farently I've got a forty six

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Speaker 13: God right now, but they're requesting paramedic. Okay, panel fell

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Speaker 13: about them? I love Rimscannal. I'm not sure she fell.

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Speaker 13: She was in the bathroom with the water four four

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Whitney Houston, that's a nine to one one call.

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Speaker 1: Found in a luxe hotel submerged in water. Why because

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Speaker 1: gave him that? Janice Jotham, what a star od And

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Speaker 1: of course no loose is complete without him. Belushi the

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Speaker 1: ultimate funny guy, little peep, just don't forget him. Kurt

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Speaker 1: Cobain Nirvana, leaving behind Francis Bean and of course one

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Speaker 1: of the biggest stars ever, Michael Jackson like just a brilliant,

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Speaker 1: burning talent dead and of course my favorite Prince. He

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Speaker 1: could have lived if he had been given a narcan

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Speaker 1: injection that didn't happen. Everyone stood by, lived off his

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Speaker 1: money and kept feeding him drugs. We were Phoenix gone

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Speaker 1: so young, de viperome. Of course, Whitney voice like an angel.

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Speaker 1: Vern Troyer, you can't help but love this guy, wrestler China.

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Speaker 1: It just we don't even have enough time to go

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Speaker 1: through all the celebrities that have lost their lives, not

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Speaker 1: just because of drugs, but because of a tight little

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Speaker 1: circle of so called friends. And back to Mike McCormick

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Speaker 1: joining US owner lead investigator mcm Investigations, former LAPD over

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Speaker 1: twenty five years at mcminvestigations dot com. Mike, that's the

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Speaker 1: way it is in Hollywood, and the beat goes on

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Speaker 1: the day after Matthew Pierry's dead. Everybody's getting their supplies

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Speaker 1: from their friends. It it never ends.

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Speaker 7: It never ends because of the suppliers and the people

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Speaker 7: involved walk the drugs. I don't know how I ended.

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Speaker 1: You know too, Doctor Bethany Marshall joining US renow psychoanalyst.

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Speaker 1: You would think that after Cody McLaury was killed that

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Speaker 1: the so called ketamine queen, I go, you know what,

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Speaker 1: It's not worth it, how many more birking bags do

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Speaker 1: I need? How many more private planes do I need

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Speaker 1: to take to Japan or Europe? It's not worth my

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Speaker 1: clients dying. It didn't stop her.

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Speaker 6: Why, Nancy, she's homicidal. I mean, we really have to

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Speaker 6: think about that. That one picture where she has the

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Speaker 6: red lipstick, black T shirt, straight hair. Do you know

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Speaker 6: what it says, rip on her T shirt rest in peace

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Speaker 6: with a picture of Kobe Bryant underneath. I mean, perhaps

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Speaker 6: it's just I don't know. I design her T shirt

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Speaker 6: right there, rip cross guy with black classes. It tells

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Speaker 6: me that on some levels, she really knew what she

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Speaker 6: was doing. She's wearing her crime. She's wearing her intention.

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Speaker 6: That watch that beautiful top, that Airmes bag. You know

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Speaker 6: that is the blood of her clients. The blood of

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Speaker 6: her clients, Nancy. I think it's easy to glamorize along

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Speaker 6: with her, that she has these beautiful outfits in the

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Speaker 6: shoes and this, that and the other. She has sucked

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Speaker 6: this money, as so many people do with addicts out

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Speaker 6: of her client to their death. This even happens in

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Speaker 6: the homeless population, Nancy, where family members will addict homeless

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Speaker 6: people so that they can take their SSI checks. It

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Speaker 6: happens from high to low, low to high, all over

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Speaker 6: the place.

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Speaker 14: According to Matthew Perry, he had been cleaned for nineteen months,

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Speaker 14: but The Daily Mail reports the actor died from an

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Speaker 14: overdose of the party drug ketamine. According to the autopsy report,

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Speaker 14: a detective who attended the scene of Perry's death said, quote,

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Speaker 14: during my investigation, no alcohol, elicit drugs or drug paraphernalia

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Speaker 14: were found unquote. The Daily Mail also claims the fifty

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Speaker 14: four year old was getting injections of the male hormone testosterone,

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Speaker 14: and an unnamed female associate claimed the injections were causing

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Speaker 14: him to be angry and mean for the last couple

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Speaker 14: of weeks.

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Speaker 1: Doctor William Maroney, if you could put this in regular

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Speaker 1: people talk in a nutshell, I've read your autopsy reports

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Speaker 1: like one sentence can be two paragraphs. Boil it down,

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Speaker 1: Boil it down. So Matthew Perry took the ketamine and

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Speaker 1: then he goes into a euphoric sedation state and his

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Speaker 1: body can't fight back. When he goes under the water.

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Speaker 3: There's high dose and lotos. You start going into sedation

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Speaker 3: and euphoria, but it doesn't stop. As the dose builds

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Speaker 3: up in you. That's where you go into frozen muscles.

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Speaker 3: You can't breathe, your body locks up, because that's what

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Speaker 3: it's really meant to do as an anesthetic.

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Speaker 1: It is a pros so a euphoric sedation. And you

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Speaker 1: I wonder if he could feel himself going underwater and

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Speaker 1: there was nothing he could do about it, or look

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Speaker 1: there he is in the hot tub. To Nima Romani,

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Speaker 1: high profile lawyer, listen to this Songha was a quote

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Speaker 1: large volume drug dealer and in the complaints we find

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Speaker 1: out that she would sell ketamine lollipops as an ad

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Speaker 1: on because his orders were so large. Now, after seizing

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Speaker 1: her phone, police apparently have found footage of her on

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Speaker 1: her phone. That's pretty arrogant cooking up ketamine. She has

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Speaker 1: videoed herself cooking up ketamine and it just you know,

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Speaker 1: there's pictures she posts online, for instance, of her in

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Speaker 1: a private jet having caviat and champagne. Just before her arrest,

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Speaker 1: she was sharing photos on Insta of her with her

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Speaker 1: knee purple hairdoo. Just she could not have cared less well.

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Speaker 2: The answered she's on a strip of hole there with

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Speaker 2: a money gun. But you know, You're right, Kennymine is

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Speaker 2: a big time party drug here in Hollywood, and it's

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Speaker 2: not given with an ivy at a party.

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Speaker 6: So what is.

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Speaker 2: Typically done is users are addicts to cook it and

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Speaker 2: they transform it into a white powdery substance like cocaine.

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Speaker 2: So when you said folks are sniffing each other at

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Speaker 2: these parties, they're sniffing cocaine and kenemine and not each other.

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Speaker 2: Sometimes it's even put in a nasal spray, but that's

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Speaker 2: primarily how it's used and abused in the party scene here.

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Speaker 2: So the fact that Sanga is one of the world's

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Speaker 2: dumbest criminals who's videotaping herself processing these types of drugs

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Speaker 2: isn't surprising because I've seen criminal defendants do all sorts

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Speaker 2: of stupid things.

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Speaker 1: You know, it's kind of hard to take in her

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Speaker 1: and her glamour lifestyle, and you juxtapose that against Matthew

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Speaker 1: Perry feeling himself going underwater and he's so immobile he

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Speaker 1: can't fight back. But doctor Bethany Marshall on Insta, this

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Speaker 1: woman posts herself enjoying caviar in a private jet lounge

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Speaker 1: just after Perry dies. She's sipping leechy martinis at the

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Speaker 1: Mandarin Oriental in Tokyo, each suite about two thousand dollars

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Speaker 1: a night. A few weeks after that, she's sunning herself

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Speaker 1: by a pool and playa Del Carmen in Mexico, sharing selfies,

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Speaker 1: drinking more cocktails. It goes on and on and on.

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Speaker 1: When she finally touches back down in the US, she

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Speaker 1: was lapping up the La lifestyle, having ivy drips and

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Speaker 1: lake night parties. End quote. Sound healing sessions helped me out,

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Speaker 1: Doctor Bethany.

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Speaker 6: Sounds very la to me. You know, she was corrupted

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Speaker 6: by greed and lack of concern for others. But Nancy,

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Speaker 6: we see this with Big Pharma, we see this with

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Speaker 6: the Sackler Family show. Let's throw them on the trash

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Speaker 6: heap of people who have become so greedy and their

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Speaker 6: lives got so big, and they earned billions of dollars,

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Speaker 6: and because of that, they did not care about the

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Speaker 6: millions of Americans who died. These people who used drugs

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Speaker 6: to have control over others. It's like they're stealing. It's

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Speaker 6: like they're creeping through a window in another person's house,

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Speaker 6: taking the diamonds out of the safe going and just

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Speaker 6: gloating over the diamonds that they've gotten. They don't care

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Speaker 6: about the house, they don't care about the people in it,

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Speaker 6: they don't care about the neurobiology of addiction, and they

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Speaker 6: don't really care about the wave of devastation that goes

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Speaker 6: outward and this person's life. Matthew Perry had many people

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Speaker 6: who love him. The public love him, we love him,

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Speaker 6: we're talking about him today. But their children, nieces, nephews, parents, cousins,

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Speaker 6: church members of people he was doing business with. It's

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Speaker 6: wid spread devastation that you know. Sonier really didn't really

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Speaker 6: care about that. She just wanted to lead you, Martini,

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Speaker 6: and that was it. Talk about again moronic. It really

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Speaker 6: is moronic behavior.

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Speaker 1: We haven't even gotten to the doctor, the drug lord

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Speaker 1: posing as a doctor, and as you see La Health

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Speaker 1: Jacket and all the others involved in Matthew Perry's debut.

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Speaker 1: This is where it leaves me. Those people that are

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Speaker 1: charged by the fans. Finally, they're no different than dopers

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Speaker 1: selling a twenty five dollars rock out on the street,

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Speaker 1: no different. They just clean up better. Thank you to

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Speaker 1: all of our guests being with us tonight. Highlighting the

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Speaker 1: devastation of addiction. Nancy Grace signing off goodbye friend,