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Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Nancy Grace.

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Speaker 2: Busted the so called glamorous ketamine queen. Did she sell

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Speaker 2: the deadly dose to beloved friend star Matthew Perry At

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Speaker 2: this hour, federal indictments going down. I'm Nancy Grace, this

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Speaker 2: is Crime Stories. Thank you for being with us. Two doctors,

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Speaker 2: two drug dealers, and Perry's live in assistant charged in

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Speaker 2: the death of friend star Matthew Perry. Prosecutors claimed the

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Speaker 2: defendants new Perry was struggling with his addiction, but we're

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Speaker 2: more concerned with making money than his well being. A

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Speaker 2: so called kennemy and queen. Let me tell you something, lady.

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Speaker 2: That birkenbag and all those Gucci clothes.

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Speaker 1: You're wearing that ain't gonna get you out of this girl.

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Speaker 2: Well, they don't have Burken and they don't have Gucci

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Speaker 1: I hope you like the color orange. Get used to it.

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Speaker 2: This woman living in the lap of luxury on the

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Speaker 2: backs of drug addicts and likely been doing it for years.

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Speaker 2: In her rarefied Hollywood environment to all the A list

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Speaker 2: celebs who are now quaking in their shoes that they're

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Speaker 2: going to be found out next.

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Speaker 1: You don't think they've got this woman's little black book.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, they do. So who is the so.

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Speaker 2: Called ketamine queen and why is she living off the

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Speaker 2: misery of others? You know, sometimes people kid themselves into

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Speaker 2: thinking certain drugs are glamorous, you know, like cocaine or ecstasy,

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Speaker 2: designer drugs, ketamine.

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Speaker 1: It's not glamorous.

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Speaker 2: It ended Matthew Perry under the water, dead in a

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Speaker 2: paying tens of thousands of dollars to rehab only the

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Speaker 2: best the Betty Ford clinic, to this clinic, to that clinic,

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Speaker 2: that this specialist covering it up from the world so

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Speaker 2: he could maintain his Hollywood image. He suffered and died,

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Speaker 2: and this woman is sitting in her claw foot tub

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Speaker 2: with a birken bag on her foot.

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Speaker 1: Woman, you know what, It's not glamorous.

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Speaker 2: Let me just kick it off right now to doctor

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Speaker 2: William Maroney.

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Speaker 1: Doctor Maroney, listen to this.

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Speaker 3: Radio.

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Speaker 4: One of droning.

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Speaker 5: Federal prosecutors alleged that Perry first obtains ketemine from an

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Speaker 5: unscrupulous doctor aiming to take advantage of the actor's addiction issues.

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Speaker 5: Doctor Salvador Placentia teaches Perry's living assistant, Kenneth Ewa Massa,

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Speaker 5: how to administer the drug and provides ketamine to both

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Speaker 5: Perry and Ewa Masa at exorbitant prices. When the drugs

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Speaker 5: become too expensive, Perry and Ewa Maasa turned to street dealers,

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Speaker 5: including jazzvin Songha dubbed the ketamine Queen.

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Speaker 2: You know to doctor William Moroney joining me, renowned medical examiner, toxicologist, pathologist,

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Speaker 2: opioid treatment expert, and author of American Narcan that would

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Speaker 2: have saved the life of Prince and so many other

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Speaker 2: stars and people from opioid overdose, Doctor Moroney, somehow, it's

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Speaker 2: the misconception is flourished, as it did about Matthew Perry,

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Speaker 2: that ketamine and other so called designer drugs are glamorous.

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Speaker 1: They're not.

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Speaker 2: All of those abusers end up in one place, a

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Speaker 2: cold slab in your office.

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Speaker 6: Explain, Ketamine is never really meant to be self administered,

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Speaker 6: and it's never really meant to be used in a

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Speaker 7: Ketamine is once a month.

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Speaker 6: In his last day, according to testimony, three three times.

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Speaker 6: He was given ketamine injections the day he died. It's

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Speaker 6: meant to be given once a month under supervision during therapy.

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Speaker 6: Ketamine is a plan. And this is so out of control.

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Speaker 1: Okay, you know what. I appreciate all of that.

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Speaker 2: But what I I asked you, doctor, my longtime colleague

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Speaker 2: that's the way it's betrayed. Hold on, if you can

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Speaker 2: see your screen, can you show me the dealer, the

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Speaker 2: glam ketamine queen, because she makes it all look so good. Okay,

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Speaker 2: I've seen that picture. Do you have another picture you

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Speaker 2: can show me? Okay, there that right there, How can

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Speaker 2: you It's hard to look at her and reconcile that

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Speaker 2: that woman right there, according to prosecutors, according to the state,

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Speaker 2: has heaped misery and suffering on so many people so

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Speaker 1: And I don't mean that as a play on words.

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Speaker 2: You've got this longtime friend, living assistant giving him the dope.

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Speaker 1: That's what it is. Dope.

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Speaker 2: Until he dies, everybody knew he was struggling with addiction.

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Speaker 1: Everybody knew that. Does this woman care? No, no drug

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Speaker 1: dealer cares. What does it do to a person, doctor.

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Speaker 6: Morony, Well, at higher doses than needed, it sedates you,

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Speaker 7: You from moving.

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Speaker 6: Because it's an anesthetic, nothing can change the classification. It's

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Speaker 6: called a dissociate of anesthetic. Why would anybody take an anesthetic?

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Speaker 6: You can't think, you can't move, and eventually you can't breathe.

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Speaker 7: So the whole problem.

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Speaker 6: Is people think they can get away with it. These

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Speaker 6: people are sold the idea that this is the answer.

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Speaker 6: At one point, it could have been heroin, It could

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Speaker 6: have been cocaine, could have been alcohol, stitutamine, and they say, okay,

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Speaker 6: when you need more, give me a call after one shot.

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Speaker 7: Eventually you need to.

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Speaker 2: Hold on, doctor Moroney, because that's exactly what happened right here.

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Speaker 2: I'm trying to drink in everything you're saying. I'm just

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Speaker 2: a tryal lawyer. You're the professional, the toxicologist, the pathologist,

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Speaker 2: and you've even written the book about use of opioids

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Speaker 2: and drugs and how to save people's lives to doctor

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Speaker 2: Bethany Marshall, Doctor Bethany Marshall, Finally somebody brings down the

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Speaker 2: hammer on this drug operation.

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Speaker 1: And this is not, according.

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Speaker 2: To sources, the first person that has lost their lives

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Speaker 2: to the Please very people, listen, doctor Bethany.

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Speaker 8: The two lead defendants in this case are defendants Salvador

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Speaker 8: Placentia and defendant Jesseviine Sanya. Defendant Placentia was a medical doctor.

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Speaker 8: He worked with another medical doctor, defendant Mark Chavez, to

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Speaker 8: obtain ketmy. He then worked with mister Perry's live in

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Speaker 8: assistant defendant Kenneth Iwamasa to distribute that ketamine to mister Perry.

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Speaker 8: Sonya and the broker defendant Fleming saw this as an

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Speaker 8: opportunity to profit off of mister Perry. She sold approximately

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Speaker 8: fifty vials of ketamine for approximately eleven thousand dollars in cash.

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Speaker 8: She worked with a broker defendant, Eric Fleming, and also

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Speaker 8: the live in assistant defendant Iwamasa to distribute this kedemy.

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Speaker 1: A tangled web of dopers, you know.

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Speaker 2: Doctor Bethany Marshall is joining us a high profile psychoanalyst

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Speaker 2: author of deal Breaker Doctor Bethany.

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Speaker 1: I'm just thinking of all the.

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Speaker 2: Drug lords and dopers that I have prosecuted put behind

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Speaker 2: bars over all the years. You know, this woman we're

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Speaker 2: looking at, there's so glamorous and her high end lifestyle.

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Speaker 2: She had just traveled to Tokyo, Europe, all over the world.

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Speaker 2: Have you, Bethany, did you grow up on a farm

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Speaker 2: you went with your parents all around the world as

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Speaker 2: a missionary?

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Speaker 1: Correct?

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Speaker 7: Yes, grew up.

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Speaker 9: In Central West Africa, Congo.

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Speaker 1: Okay, then you've seen a tick.

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Speaker 2: I assume you know bloods Absolutely, yes, that's who she is.

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Speaker 2: Every time I look at her, I see a tick,

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Speaker 2: and they get bigger and fatter as they suck the

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Speaker 2: blood of their victim.

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Speaker 1: And that is what.

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Speaker 2: She was doing with Matthew Perry. And I guarantee you

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Speaker 2: he's not the first.

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Speaker 9: You know, she was going out selling one more vile

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Speaker 9: and one more vile to go out and buy one

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Speaker 9: more Airmeas bag or Gucci pair of shoes, or you know,

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Speaker 9: she was just really satisfying her own greed. And what

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Speaker 9: makes me so sad, Nancy, is that people suffering from

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Speaker 9: some substance abuse disorders are extraordinarily vulnerable. Matthew Perry was vulnerable.

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Speaker 9: He was chasing that next high. His brain was craving

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Speaker 9: the addiction. He had a long history of substance abuse disorder.

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Speaker 9: And by the way, so do About fifteen percent of

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Speaker 9: all Americans over the age of twelve have suffered from

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Speaker 1: Can you say that again? I thought I didn't hear

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Speaker 9: What more than fifteen percent of all Americans over the

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Speaker 9: age of twelve have suffered from a substance abuse disorder

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Speaker 9: in this past year. Of those Americans, only six point

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Speaker 9: seven percent of them ever received.

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Speaker 2: Listen to this, everybody, Mike McCormick joining me, owner, lead

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Speaker 2: investigator mcmm mother c Charlie m Mother Investigations, former LAPD

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Speaker 2: over twenty five years.

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Speaker 1: Listen to this, Mike.

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Speaker 2: It is reported that the Ketamine Queen supplied twenty five

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Speaker 2: vials of ketamine four days to Parry just four days

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Speaker 2: before his death, and boasted as she.

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Speaker 1: Sold it to him as it being a high.

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Speaker 2: Quality drug, adding it's unmarked, but it's amazing now. Immediately

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Speaker 2: after his death, is reported she messaged her co conspirators,

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Speaker 2: according to the state, stating delete all our messages, and

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Speaker 2: then she goes off on a whirlwind tour I think

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Speaker 2: it was Japan, but flying off on a private jet,

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Speaker 2: laid all your messages, destroy the evidence she knew. She

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Speaker 2: knew Mike McCormick. And there's no way in huble l

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Speaker 2: that there's not a string of other Hollywood celebs that

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Speaker 10: That's true. It's going to be probably a lot more

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Speaker 10: suspects brought into this death of Matthew Perry as time

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Speaker 10: goes by. I don't think it's limited to just the

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Speaker 10: I think the assistant Kenneth definitely didn't do his job.

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Speaker 10: He should have. He should have brought in the family

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Speaker 10: the problem is. And we have been able to actually

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Speaker 2: But instead of trying to save him, Mike, everyone enabled

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Speaker 11: Perry turned to a street dealer, Eric Fleming, who sourced

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Speaker 11: his ketymine from a drug trafficker known as the ketemine

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Speaker 11: Queen Jasvine Sangha. The ketymine supplied by Sanha would ultimately

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Speaker 11: be the dose that took Matthew Perry's life. Some knew

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Speaker 11: that the ketamine she supplied could be deadly.

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Speaker 1: Despite this knowledge.

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Speaker 11: She continued to sell ketamine and methaphetamine throughout Los Angeles.

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Speaker 2: Now joining me, high profile lawyer, former federal prosecutor, Nima Romani,

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Speaker 2: president West Coast Trial Lawyers, author of.

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Speaker 1: Harvard to hashtag Nima.

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Speaker 2: It was slow in coming, but finally the Fed's hand

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Speaker 2: down a major indictment.

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Speaker 1: I'm happy they did it, But do you.

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Speaker 2: Think if they had acted earlier, Perry's life could have

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Speaker 2: been saved and probably the lives of many others well.

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Speaker 3: Probably man See, let's not forget that Soga was responsible

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Speaker 3: for another drug related death in twenty nineteen, Cody McKellen,

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Speaker 3: and it was kedemene that she provided.

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Speaker 1: That killed them that same day. And the political.

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Speaker 3: Reality is that they spend a lot more time investigating

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Speaker 3: this case because of who the victim was. You have

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Speaker 3: a celebrity victim obviously got a lot of attention, and

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Speaker 3: that's why you had federal resources as well as local resources.

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Speaker 3: LAPD put on this case to bring hopefully the perpetrators

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Speaker 8: They distributed approximately twenty vials of ketamine to mister Perry

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Speaker 8: in exchange for fifty five thousand dollars in cash. Defendant

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Speaker 8: Placentia saw this as an opportunity to profit off of

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Speaker 8: mister Perry. He wrote in a text message in September

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Speaker 12: I wonder how much this moron will pay? Let's find out.

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Speaker 12: Text messages reveal the motivation of those charged in Matthew

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Speaker 2: Joining us right now, Lauren Colin, investigative reporter and star

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Speaker 1: Thank you for being with us.

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Speaker 2: So who while they're literally killing him like a tick,

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Speaker 2: his condition is quote spiraling out of control. They that

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Speaker 1: They actually call him a moron.

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Speaker 2: Matthew Perry, who was a child tennis prodigy who goes

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Speaker 1: That that moron who said.

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Speaker 13: That, Lauren Conlin, Yes, this is doctor Salvator Placentia who

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Speaker 13: before Matthew Perry's death, Salvator Placentia shot up Matthew Perry

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Speaker 13: with a very large dose of ketamine, which caused Matthew

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Speaker 13: Perry to freeze up, and doctor Placentia said to Kenneth Ewamasa, hm,

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Speaker 13: we better not do that again. Well, we know that

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Speaker 13: that was not the case, and just very quickly Nancy

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Speaker 13: going back to jazz Beene Sangha as Mima said. She

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Speaker 13: was found to be responsible for the twenty nine nineteen

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Speaker 2: Guys, speaking of Matthew Perry quote freezing up listen.

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Speaker 8: Defendant Placentia knew full well the danger of what he

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Speaker 8: Perry with kenmine and he saw mister Perry freeze up

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Speaker 8: vials of ketamine for defendant Iwamasa to administer to mister Perry.

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Speaker 8: Of course, defendant Ewa Masa had no medical training to

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Speaker 2: Doctor William Maroney joining me, renowned toxicologist and pathologist, author

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Speaker 2: opioid and substance abuse. Doctor Moroney, I've heard it stated

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Speaker 1: That they had observed or knew.

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Speaker 2: Of Matthew Perry quote freezing up. I'm not sure what

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Speaker 2: that means, but it didn't stop them from giving him

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Speaker 6: What it actually comes down to is ketamine is an anesthetic.

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Speaker 6: So if you give too much, you don't just relax somebody.

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Speaker 7: They do freeze up.

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Speaker 6: You freeze somebody up at the side of their pool

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Speaker 6: were lucky that they didn't kill him earlier. But the

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Speaker 6: end result is the same because of the disregard for life.

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Speaker 6: As they gave him more, he became more dependent. And

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Speaker 6: then the final day when he died, he got three injections.

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Speaker 6: This is a drug proved to get once a month

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Speaker 2: Back to him freezing up. That is what going into

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Speaker 6: What is that muscle stiffness and the early stages of anesthesia.

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Speaker 6: Anesthesia making him fall asleep on purpose, because that's how

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Speaker 1: How exactly did the scheme work?

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Speaker 14: Listen, Doctor Salvador Placentia obtains ketamine for Perry from doctor

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Speaker 14: Mark Chavez. Chavez writes a fraudulent prescription for an unwitting

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Speaker 14: liquid and lozenge forms of ketamine for doctor Placentia, who

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Speaker 14: in turns dispenses them to Perry on at least seven occasions,

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Speaker 14: despite noting Perry's addiction is quote spiraling out of control.

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Speaker 14: When Placentia is ord to turn over Perry's medical records,

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Speaker 14: the doctor falsifies and alters several reports to show a

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Speaker 2: Okay, back to Lauren Conlin joining us from Prime Time

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Speaker 1: Lauren, So let me understand this.

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Speaker 2: They state amongst themselves that his addiction is spiraling out

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Speaker 1: Their words, not mine, but they.

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Speaker 2: Continue and they call it a treatment plan.

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Speaker 1: Why did they name it a treatment plan?

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Speaker 2: Sang Hay is just basically a dope dealer, just like

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Speaker 2: a doper on the street that a couple of blocks

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Speaker 13: This is absolutely absurd, Nancy. And let's not forget that

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Speaker 13: Matthew Perry just started working with these doctors a month

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Speaker 13: it was all made up. They literally just did this

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Speaker 13: paid twelve dollars for for two thousand dollars. And Kenneth

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Speaker 13: Ewamasa confirmed with the LAPD and the DEA that the

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Speaker 13: three days before Matthew Perry's death, he was administering between

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Speaker 13: six and eight doses of kenymine a day. And you know,

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Speaker 13: like doctor Moroney said, the last day he was alive,

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Speaker 1: And if the.

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Speaker 13: Doctors prescribed that, oh boy, I would be shocked.

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Speaker 1: Doctor Bethany, the price differential.

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Speaker 2: You can get the same amount of ketamine on the

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Speaker 2: street for twelve bucks, and he's paying two thousand dollars

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Speaker 2: for one vial, Doctor Bethany, speaking of blood sucking ticks.

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Speaker 1: Not only do.

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Speaker 2: They aid him, enable him to his own death, but

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Speaker 9: In their text, Nancy, they had disregard and disdained for them,

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Speaker 9: But who are the morons? They killed their cash cow

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Speaker 9: then all of a sudden, the house manager would come

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Speaker 9: so he would take her shopping for jewelry. I mean,

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Speaker 9: he was a mark sitting out there in society because

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Speaker 9: addictions like Matthew Perry, the people around them are bloodsucking

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Speaker 9: not care about the patient. Did you notice that picture

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Speaker 9: of doctor Placentia has UCLA Healthcare on his lab jacket,

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Speaker 9: knowing that that person's going to die, and so stupid

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Speaker 1: To get caught.

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Speaker 12: One doctor notes Matthew Perry's addiction as spiraling out of control.

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Speaker 12: Still Perry is sold twenty mials of ketamine, totaling fifty

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Speaker 2: Finally, federal indictments go down. I'm thrilled about the indictments,

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Speaker 2: But I wonder if they had been handed down against

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Speaker 2: this as I'm calling them blood sucking ticks that lived

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Speaker 2: I'm just glad the charges occurred. Now we're talking about

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Speaker 5: Listen, Doctor Salvador Placentia's exorbitant prices pushed Matthew Perry to

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Speaker 5: seek a new ketamine source. Assistant Kenneth Ewa Massa reaches

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Speaker 5: out to several street dealers. Eric Fleming agrees to a

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Speaker 5: the drugs with cash from Ewa Masa. Songha is well

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Speaker 2: We were just talking about a guy named Cody mcclauri.

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Speaker 4: Jazzvien Songha sells Cody mclowery several vials of ketamine. Later

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Speaker 2: You know that's the thing, Doctor William Maroney, renowned toxicologist

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Speaker 1: Dopers don't care.

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Speaker 2: The family goes to sing y'all and says, you did

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Speaker 2: this to Cody, and she's like, oh okay, Google, Google, Google,

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Speaker 2: I'm never doing this again. It's how this horrible effeke.

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Speaker 1: Cody is dead.

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Speaker 2: No, she just wants to find out is basically she

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Speaker 6: I mean really, Ketamine is listed as cause of death

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Speaker 6: in a court that's a different definition that it was

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Speaker 7: So there's a play between the picate.

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Speaker 6: Clearly, always ketamine will be listed as a cause of death.

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Speaker 2: Romani, former federal prosecutor turned trial lawyer Nima Why is

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Speaker 2: it that all the so called rich, glamorous people get

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Speaker 1: Why is that if there is a.

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Speaker 2: Sweetheart deal on this bloodsucking tick song.

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Speaker 1: Hey, I'm going to do a backflip. You've got Cody McLaury.

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Speaker 2: That we know of, and now Matthew Perry. Well are

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Speaker 3: I don't think so, Nancy. Like I said, there's two

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Speaker 3: potential life sentence. If the fence cut her a deal,

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Speaker 3: it's only because she's going to identify her source. I

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Speaker 3: know in drug cases prosecutors they.

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Speaker 1: Want to work their way up the chain.

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Speaker 3: Kennemine is a huge problem in LA right now.

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Speaker 12: Perry's live in assistant admitted to repeatedly injecting the actor

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Speaker 2: One celeb after the next dead from overdose, probably drugs

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Speaker 15: h right, what going on? I need a paramedic fently.

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Speaker 15: I've got a forty six year old femail. I'm found

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Speaker 15: in the bathroom to follow God right now, but they're

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Speaker 15: requesting paramedic. Okay, panel fell about them? I love Rimscannal.

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Speaker 15: I'm not sure she fell. She was in the bathroom

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Speaker 15: with the water four four three four. I'm sorry. We

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Speaker 15: had a room four three fourth fieen, Okay, they're not

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Speaker 15: us or anything else.

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Speaker 7: That's room four three yeah.

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Speaker 15: Okay, we don't know if she was contract of breathing

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Speaker 15: at all. Apparently she wasn't breathing and she's y six

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Speaker 15: year old. She was not breathing.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Whitney Houston, that's a nine to one one call.

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Speaker 2: Found in a luxe hotel submerged in water? Why because

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Speaker 2: of drugs? And there's so many others. Amy Winehouse a

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Speaker 2: brilliant shooting star dead. Of course, Anna Nicole Smith. All

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Speaker 2: of her friends fed her drugs, drugs, drugs until the

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Speaker 2: very end, leaving behind children. Chris Farley, the funny guy.

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Speaker 2: Everybody loves Farley, people took advantage of him until he

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Speaker 2: was dead. Heath Ledger, the joker, leaving behind a little girl.

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Speaker 2: Of course, let's just start at the beginning with this guy.

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Speaker 2: He had a fishing tackle box full of drugs? Who

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Speaker 2: gave him that? Janice Jotham, what a star od And

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Speaker 2: of course no loose is complete without him. Belushi the

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Speaker 2: ultimate funny guy, Little Peep, just don't forget him. Kurt

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Speaker 2: Cobain Nirvana leaving behind Francis Bean and of course one

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Speaker 2: of the biggest stars ever, Michael Jackson like just a brilliant,

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Speaker 2: burning talent dead, and of course my favorite Prince he

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Speaker 2: could have lived if he had been given a narcan injection.

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Speaker 1: That didn't happen.

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Speaker 2: Everyone stood by, lived off his money and kept feeding

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Speaker 2: him drugs. We were Phoenix gone so young, de viperome.

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Speaker 2: Of course, Whitney voice like an angel. Vern Troyer, you

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Speaker 2: can't help but love this guy wrestler China. It just

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Speaker 2: we don't even have enough time to go through all

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Speaker 2: the celebrities that have lost their lives, not just because

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Speaker 2: of drugs, but because of a tight little circle.

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Speaker 1: Of so called friends.

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Speaker 2: And back to Mike McCormick joining US owner lead investigator

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Speaker 2: mcm Investigations, former LAPD over twenty five years at mcminvestigations

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Speaker 2: dot com.

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Speaker 1: Mike, that's the way it is in Hollywood, and the.

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Speaker 2: Beat goes on the day after Matthew Pierry's dead. Everybody's

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Speaker 2: getting their supplies from their friends. It it never ends.

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Speaker 10: It never ends because of the suppliers and the people

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Speaker 10: involved walk the drugs. I don't know how I ended.

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Speaker 2: You know too, Doctor Bethany Marshall joining US renow psychoanalyst.

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Speaker 2: You would think that after Cody McLaury was killed that

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Speaker 2: the so called ketamine queen I go you know, what.

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Speaker 2: It's not worth it. How many more birking bags do

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Speaker 2: I need? How many more private planes do I need

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Speaker 2: to take.

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Speaker 1: To Japan or Europe? It's not worth my clients dying.

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Speaker 1: It didn't stop her.

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Speaker 9: Why, Nancy, she's homicidal. I mean, we really have to

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Speaker 9: think about that. That one picture where she has the

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Speaker 9: red lipstick, black T shirt, straight hair. Do you know

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Speaker 9: what it says, rip on her T shirt rest in peace

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Speaker 9: with a picture of Kobe Bryant underneath. I mean, perhaps

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Speaker 9: it's just I don't know. I design her T shirt

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Speaker 9: right there, rip cross guy with black classes. It tells

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Speaker 9: me that on some levels, she really knew what she

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Speaker 9: was doing. She's wearing her crime. She's wearing her intention.

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Speaker 9: That watch that beautiful top, that Airmes bag, you know

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Speaker 9: that is the blood of her clients. The blood of

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Speaker 9: her clients, Nancy. I think it's easy to glamorize along

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Speaker 9: with her, that she has these beautiful outfits in the

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Speaker 9: shoes and this, that and the other. She has sucked

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Speaker 9: this money.

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Speaker 1: As so many people do with addicts out.

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Speaker 9: Of her client to their death. This even happens in

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Speaker 9: the homeless population, Nancy, where family members will addict homeless

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Speaker 9: people so that they can take their SSI checks. It

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Speaker 9: happens from high to low, low to high, all over

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Speaker 9: the place.

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Speaker 16: According to Matthew Perry, he had been cleaned for nineteen months,

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Speaker 16: but The Daily Mail reports the actor died from an

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Speaker 16: overdose of the party drug ketamine. According to the autopsy report,

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Speaker 16: a detective who attended the scene of Perry's death said, quote,

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Speaker 16: during my investigation, no alcohol, elicit drugs or drug paraphernalia

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Speaker 16: were found unquote. The Daily Mail also claims the fifty

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Speaker 16: four year old was getting injections of the male hormone testosterone,

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Speaker 16: and an unnamed female associate claimed the injections were causing

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Speaker 16: him to be angry and mean for the last couple

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Speaker 16: of weeks.

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Speaker 2: Doctor William Maroney, if you could put this in regular

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Speaker 2: people talk in a nutshell. I've read your autopsy reports

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Speaker 2: like one sentence can be two paragraphs.

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Speaker 1: Boil it down, Boil it down.

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Speaker 2: So Matthew Perry took the ketamine and then he goes

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Speaker 2: into a euphoric sedation state.

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Speaker 1: And his body can't fight back. When he goes under

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Speaker 1: the water.

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Speaker 6: There's high dose and lotos. You start going into sedation

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Speaker 6: and euphoria, but it doesn't stop as the dose builds

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Speaker 6: up in you. That's where you go into frozen muscles.

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Speaker 6: You can't breathe, your body locks up, because that's what

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Speaker 6: it's really meant to do as an anesthetic.

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Speaker 7: It is a.

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Speaker 1: Pros so a euphoric sedation.

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Speaker 2: And you I wonder if he could feel himself going

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Speaker 2: underwater and there was nothing he could do about it,

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Speaker 2: or look there he is in the hot tub. To

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Speaker 2: Nima Romani, high profile lawyer, listen to this Songha was

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Speaker 2: a quote large volume drug dealer and in the complaints

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Speaker 2: we find out that she would sell ketamine lollipops as

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Speaker 2: an ad on.

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Speaker 1: Because his orders were so large.

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Speaker 2: Now, after seizing her phone, police apparently have found footage

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Speaker 2: of her on her phone. That's pretty arrogant cooking up ketamine.

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Speaker 1: She has videoed herself cooking.

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Speaker 2: Up ketamine and it just you know, there's pictures she

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Speaker 2: posts online, for instance, of her in a private jet

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Speaker 2: having caviat and champagne. Just before her arrest, she was

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Speaker 2: sharing photos on Insta of her with her knee purple hairdoo.

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Speaker 1: Just she could not have cared less well.

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Speaker 3: The answered she's on a strip of hole there with

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Speaker 3: a money gun. But you know you're right, Kennymine is

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Speaker 3: a big time party drug here in Hollywood, and it's

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Speaker 3: not given with an ivy at a party.

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Speaker 1: So what is.

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Speaker 3: Typically done is users are addicts to cook it and

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Speaker 3: they transform it into a white, powdery substance like cocaine.

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Speaker 3: So when you said folks are sniffing each other at

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Speaker 3: these parties, they're sniffing cocaine and kenemine and not each other.

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Speaker 3: Sometimes it's even put in a nasal spray, but that's

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Speaker 3: primarily how it's used and abused in the party scene here.

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Speaker 3: So the fact that Sanga is one of the world's

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Speaker 3: dumbest criminals who's videotaping herself processing these types of drugs

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Speaker 3: isn't surprising because I've seen criminal defendants do all sorts

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Speaker 3: of stupid things.

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Speaker 2: You know, it's kind of hard to take in her

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Speaker 2: and her glamour lifestyle, and you juxtapose that against Matthew

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Speaker 2: Perry feeling himself going underwater and he's so immobile he

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Speaker 2: can't fight back. But doctor Bethany Marshall on Insta, this

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Speaker 2: woman posts herself enjoying caviar in a private jet lounge

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Speaker 2: just after Perry dies, she's sipping leechy martinis at the

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Speaker 2: Mandarin Oriental in Tokyo, each suite about two thousand dollars

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Speaker 2: a night. A few weeks after that, she's sunning herself

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Speaker 2: by a pool and playa Del Carmen in Mexico, sharing selfies,

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Speaker 2: drinking more cocktails. It goes on and on and on.

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Speaker 2: When she finally touches back down. In the US, she

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Speaker 2: was lapping up the La lifestyle, having ivy drips and

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Speaker 2: lake night parties.

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Speaker 1: End quote.

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Speaker 2: Sound healing sessions helped me out, Doctor Bethany.

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Speaker 9: Sounds very la to me. You know, she was corrupted

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Speaker 9: by greed and lack of concern for others. But Nancy,

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Speaker 9: we see this with Big Pharma. We see this with

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Speaker 9: the Sackler Family show.

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Speaker 7: Let's throw them on.

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Speaker 9: The trash heap of people who have become so greedy

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Speaker 9: and their lives got so big, and they earned billions

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Speaker 9: of dollars, and because of that, they did not care

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Speaker 9: about the millions of Americans who died. These people who

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Speaker 9: used drugs to have control over others, it's like they're stealing.

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Speaker 9: It's like they're creeping through a window in another person's house.

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Speaker 9: Taking the diamonds out of the safe going and just

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Speaker 9: gloating over the diamonds that they've gotten. They don't care

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Speaker 9: about the house, they don't care about the people in it,

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Speaker 9: they don't care about the neurobiology of addiction, and they

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Speaker 9: don't really care about the wave of devastation that goes

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Speaker 9: outward and this person's life. Matthew Perry had many people

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Speaker 9: who love him. The public love him, we love him,

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Speaker 9: we're talking about him today. But their children, nieces, nephews, parents, cousins,

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Speaker 9: church members of people he was doing business with. It's

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Speaker 9: wid spread devastation.

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Speaker 1: That you know.

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Speaker 9: Sonier really didn't really care about that. She just wanted

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Speaker 9: to lead you, Martini, and that was it. Talk about

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Speaker 9: again moronic. It really is moronic behavior.

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Speaker 2: We haven't even gotten to the doctor, the drug lord

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Speaker 2: posing as a doctor, and as you see La health

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Speaker 2: Jacket and all the others involved in Matthew Perry's debut.

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Speaker 1: This is where it leaves me. Those people that are

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Speaker 1: charged by the fans.

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Speaker 2: Finally, they're no different than dopers selling a twenty five

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Speaker 2: dollars rock out on the street, no different.

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Speaker 1: They just clean up better. Thank you to all of

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Speaker 1: our guests.

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Speaker 2: Being with us tonight, highlighting the devastation of addiction. Nancy

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Speaker 2: Grace signing off goodbye friend,