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Speaker 1: I'm Peanut.

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Speaker 2: This is my guy Roman, and this is the NFL

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Speaker 2: Player Second X podcast, and we got a good one.

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Speaker 1: I had to stop rolling because him and our.

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Speaker 2: Guests, they've been trying to do the show before the

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Speaker 2: show actually start. So right now, I'm gonna just read

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Speaker 2: off some of this gentleman's stats. Played nine years in

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Speaker 2: the NFL, made a name for himself as one of

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Speaker 2: the greatest returnment of all time. He is tied third

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Speaker 2: all time in kick returns and touchdowns. He is one

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Speaker 2: of owner he excuse me, he is one of five

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Speaker 2: players in NFL history with ten thousand return yards, two

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Speaker 2: time All Pro, two time Pro bowler at five eight.

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Speaker 2: He's got more nicknames and I don't know who he's got.

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Speaker 2: The Human Torch, the Human Joystick, the X Factor. Ladies

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Speaker 2: and gentlemen, please welcome Dante Hall to the show. My

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Speaker 2: personal favorite was an X Factor, so mine was a

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Speaker 2: human joystick.

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Speaker 3: I told you, my brother's a die hard fan of

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Speaker 3: yours and all of Kansas City Chiefs, and so it

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Speaker 3: was really awesome to see him really burst onto the

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Speaker 3: scene out of nowhere. You had the one where you

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Speaker 3: just destroyed Denver Broncos with the kind.

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Speaker 4: Of step back.

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Speaker 3: I think that was on Al Wilson to really hurt

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Speaker 3: my man forget. Yeah, yeah, then I broke everybody else. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: and it was just great because that was actually passed

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Speaker 3: to the flat that you did that and then but

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Speaker 3: you were very much so known for your return.

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Speaker 1: I was one of the Gatorade commercial.

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Speaker 2: Was that the one on I think you did something

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Speaker 2: with a gatoramercial where you got it and yeah that

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Speaker 2: was yeah, yeah, yeah, that's the one that was on

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Speaker 2: the Gate Raay commercial. I was just like, damn, So,

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Speaker 2: what was your favorite nickname?

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Speaker 1: Human? George Stick, hum and Joystick.

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Speaker 5: I came up with the X factor, so that means

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Speaker 5: a lot to me, but Human Joystick is my favorite,

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Speaker 5: even though I didn't come up with that. Mitch Otis,

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Speaker 5: who has been like a long standing play by play

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Speaker 5: analyst guy for the Chiefs, he kind of gave me

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Speaker 5: that Moniker, but I came up with the X factor.

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Speaker 5: So I love the X factor because I gave came

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Speaker 5: up with it. But the human Joystick was pretty pretty

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Speaker 5: cool too. And at the time he named me that,

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Speaker 5: this was two thousand and two three, I was an

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Speaker 5: avid gamer. Yeah, I since retired the controls the clubs.

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Speaker 1: But at the time when he said, I was hum

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Speaker 5: And what was your game when you were gaming pretty

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Speaker 5: much all the sports game the typical NBA two K

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Speaker 5: Madden of course, were you.

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Speaker 4: On Tiger Woods at that time too?

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Speaker 1: That's what got me into gold.

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Speaker 3: I was like, you had to be on Tiger Woods,

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Speaker 3: the battery filling up.

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Speaker 5: That's actually what transitioned me from a gamer into actually

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Speaker 5: playing the game of golf was the Tiger Wars game.

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Speaker 3: Oh so all right, now, so your your favorite nickname

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Speaker 3: was now was the human Joystick? But how did you

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Speaker 3: come up with the X factor? Was it because people

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Speaker 3: stopp punting it to you?

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Speaker 1: Like?

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Speaker 4: What was it? How did you become the X factor?

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Speaker 1: So?

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Speaker 5: Actually, before I made it to the league in high school,

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Speaker 5: junior high college, I died at that I was a

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Speaker 1: Yeah I got that. Yeah, I got.

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Speaker 5: Converted tour wide receiver my second ye in the NFL. Uh,

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Speaker 5: and they moved me to the X receiver during that

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Speaker 5: second year. Uh in the league getting converted. We didn't

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Speaker 5: have a really good year. You guys, no idea. It's

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Speaker 5: week thirteen. You know you're not going to the playoffs.

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Speaker 5: You gotta find a way to get through the practice. Yeah,

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Speaker 5: started messing around in practice, like if I ever scored

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Speaker 1: And all of that.

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Speaker 5: So it was just something that started as a joking

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Speaker 2: Those that don't know the This was the X, the Z, W,

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Speaker 2: T V F Y, those are just different positions for

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Speaker 2: slide the exactly.

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Speaker 3: I would also say this is that, uh, the X

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Speaker 1: And exactly off the ball on the strong side.

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Speaker 3: Right, But the X receiver is usually bigger than you.

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Speaker 3: You're you're a small X. I would I would, I

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Speaker 3: would think that you'd be a Z because they could

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Speaker 1: So with the offense that we ran, it was the

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Speaker 5: The Greatest Show on Turf used, as well as Don

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Speaker 5: carry Ell and the Greatest Show on Turf during the

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Speaker 5: San Diego Day.

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Speaker 1: Kelln Winslow, Senior, Dan Fouts, Johner.

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Speaker 5: That offense as well as greatest show on turf was

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Speaker 5: an offense that Dick Lemier brought my second year with

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Speaker 5: the Chiefs. And in that offense, yes you can make

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Speaker 5: it as a special teamer, but they were only carrying five,

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Speaker 5: no more than six receivers. So even though you wasn't

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Speaker 5: all every position because they it was kind of they

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Speaker 5: could enter, uh you know, change you as far as receiver,

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Speaker 5: and the way we lined up and the way we

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Speaker 5: the Z.

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Speaker 1: Maybe then we were shifting now.

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Speaker 5: Why right, and and so forth. So everything was interchange, interchangeble.

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Speaker 5: You had to know every position. So even though yes it's.

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Speaker 1: The short guy, the big guy, we ran short people

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Speaker 2: Okay, so you're one of five players with ten thousand yards.

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Speaker 5: When you said that, I didn't know that. That's a

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and I'm so we were sitting here debating, like

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Speaker 2: so I played with Devon Uh, Devon Hester, Joshua.

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Speaker 1: Cribs he did Metcalf? Wow? Uh No, No, I didn't play

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Speaker 1: with him. I played I played against those two guys.

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Speaker 1: You got Eric metcalf yourself. Rian Mitchell has to be

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Speaker 1: Brian Mitchell. Brian Mitchell, Yeah, the most fourteen guy.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, really, yeah, he did it the longest too, He

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Speaker 2: Louisiana raising cag so he raising he had, Yes, Yes, Lafayette,

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Speaker 2: what's up representing y'all?

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Speaker 1: Y'all beat us in two thousand and six.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, the only time they've ever been part of that team. Yes,

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Speaker 5: but I was only a freshman.

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Speaker 2: So Jake Delane, yes, yeah, it was mousted everybody. It

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Speaker 1: And yeah, now now ask him what happened the following year.

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Speaker 1: I wasn't.

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Speaker 2: I wasn't there then. I wasn't six and sixth to nothing. Yeah,

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Speaker 5: A m right, Yeah, no it was. It was in

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Speaker 5: uh Lafayette. It was we came in twenty fifth ranked team.

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Speaker 5: You guys were unranked and we going we had all

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Speaker 5: we had about seven guys go pro off that team

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Speaker 5: and we still got beat But look what happened. It

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Speaker 1: But these guys were really really talented.

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Speaker 2: So when I went there, they tried, so this is

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Speaker 2: ninety nine, happened in ninety six. They tried to use

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Speaker 2: ninety six, and I'm like, it's ninety nine, y'all, Like

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Speaker 2: that was that was years ago somebody.

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Speaker 4: That's all they got, I know.

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Speaker 1: But it didn't sway me to go there. That didn't

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Speaker 1: sw did you end up? I didn't. I wasn't highly

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Speaker 1: recruited out of college and didn't nobody want me.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I had the size, I had the grades.

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Speaker 2: I still played the same. I was doing everything the same.

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Speaker 2: But yeah, I just I flew under the radar and

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Speaker 2: I didn't want it to right down the street from A

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Speaker 2: Coved Temple. I was in that that area totally one

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Speaker 2: like you like none of.

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Speaker 4: Them just know Texas.

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Speaker 1: No, that's crazy, that is North Texas. Yeah, I just

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Speaker 3: Flew So when Peanut tells you those stats and those numbers,

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Speaker 3: what does that do for you?

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Speaker 4: Mentally? Emotionally? Where does that? It's just like, you know

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Speaker 4: what it's kind of just my career now passing.

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Speaker 1: No, No, I'm not jaded like that.

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Speaker 5: When he said that, it's like, oh wow, because I

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Speaker 5: study the history of the game, I'm very fortunate.

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Speaker 1: I feel very fortunate every day in my life. I

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Speaker 5: So to even be considered as one of five that

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Speaker 5: you said in the history of this game, I immediately started thinking.

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Speaker 1: Of all the grace before me. Wow, only five.

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Speaker 5: So I understand history like that, and it just makes

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Speaker 5: still watch the games every week, all the games as

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Speaker 5: if I never played. I'm just an average sports fan.

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Speaker 3: So who are you the biggest fan of like right now?

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Speaker 5: Currently a smarter in football football football? Probably Travis Kelsey.

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Speaker 5: Now I'm a little biased because I have a relationship

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Speaker 5: god as one's two Super Bowl is who he is,

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Speaker 5: how humble he is, how you can touch him, you

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Speaker 5: can hang out with him like he never felt like

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Speaker 5: I'm bigger than you. You did your thing, You did

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Speaker 5: your thing. No, So I'm a little biased in that regard.

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Speaker 5: So my favorite player right now is.

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Speaker 4: Pobly Travis k all Right, how about all sports?

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Speaker 1: All sports?

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Speaker 4: Lebron James, Okay, I go think is he to go?

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Speaker 1: Okay, he's on.

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Speaker 5: Mind rushmore for sure, have to go. I got Jordan

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Speaker 5: reserved for the goat. Broun is a clo like you

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Speaker 5: go one A one Bright. I think they're both number one.

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Speaker 5: I just got Lebron at one B just just for

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Speaker 5: you know, sometimes like have that killer instinct all the time?

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Speaker 1: He does have it, he just doesn't have it all

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Speaker 1: the time.

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Speaker 5: You better go watch game Go watch Game six versus

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Speaker 5: Boston when he was in Miami. He has moments to where, yeah,

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Speaker 5: that dog would come out of him.

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Speaker 1: It's like, oh, give me that every time.

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Speaker 5: And that's the only reason I give it to Jordan,

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Speaker 5: because Jordan gave it to you every single time.

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Speaker 2: To me, That's so What I like about that, though,

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Speaker 2: is the dog Like you had that dog in you

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Speaker 2: in two thousand and three and that was that was

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Speaker 2: my that was my rookie year. And for four straight

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Speaker 2: weeks it was just or that. I wouldn't even say

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Speaker 2: four shit weeks. I'd probably say that season because week

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Speaker 2: in and week out Sports Center Top ten, like you

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Speaker 2: was always on there. Doing your thing, and what was

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Speaker 2: your I know what it's like.

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Speaker 4: Being in the zone.

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Speaker 1: I've been in the zone. You've been in the zone.

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Speaker 1: We've done that.

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Speaker 5: Schematics with him from when they were with Saint Louis.

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Speaker 5: You put all that together, and you had coach Vermill

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Speaker 5: who was actually drafting guys to be special teamers. Yes,

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Speaker 2: So I played, I played thirteen years. I played special

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Speaker 1: To want to be on specialty degrees. Agree, you have

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Speaker 2: He like the first one he ever returned his first

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Speaker 1: Just give me a crease. I ask you this. You

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Speaker 5: The coaches have to come and encourage you, or did

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Speaker 1: Like I just, I just accepted it.

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Speaker 2: Like we said earlier, I was just a really good teammate.

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Speaker 2: Like I knew my role I was. I was a

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Speaker 1: You need to do this.

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Speaker 2: My leadership was all right, I don't have the great

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Speaker 2: I just I mean I enjoyed. I enjoyed the blocking part.

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Speaker 1: That's what I mean.

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Speaker 3: So I was Peanuts teammate and I watched him do this,

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Speaker 4: Good at it and sounds like.

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Speaker 3: It sounds and you might be right, Dante, because I

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Speaker 1: It goes hand in hand. Yeah, because so much I

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Speaker 2: I saw how much you're I think you're you and

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Speaker 2: I could never be what you and Devin and Josh

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Speaker 5: I think, yeah, in your mind needs that running back

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Speaker 1: That's why I love football. The ultimate teams.

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Speaker 5: Just put Lebron on that and now we're great. No,

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Speaker 5: that's why I said what I said, Like, I honestly

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Speaker 1: We had that perfect marriage. And you probably can attest

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Speaker 5: What's also important as a special teams coach, it's galvanizing

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Speaker 3: Yes, all right, now tell me this. We've been talking

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Speaker 5: But this is my favorite because we were in a

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Speaker 1: You know, it's hard. No one is scoring.

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Speaker 1: And then considering the people who were on that field.

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Speaker 3: Confidence Now tell me, yes, I got another question for you, So,

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Speaker 3: Since at it that was that was much of other

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Speaker 5: But I actually was a starter by my sophomore year

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Speaker 1: You're gonna make the team. This is how you're going

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Speaker 5: It was at that point I was like, this is

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Speaker 2: But what did NFL you're a teach you though, Like,

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Speaker 5: Vermeil was trying to in some kind of back door

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Speaker 5: But I once I got over there and understood the process,

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Speaker 1: Got reps right reap exactly year.

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Speaker 5: Like you're barely in the game and you go out

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Speaker 4: And now something most people will never think about it.

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Speaker 1: Cole Hampstead tight take onto the house. I'm not in

443
00:20:45,160 --> 00:20:46,879
Speaker 1: the floor of the game because of my history.

444
00:20:46,960 --> 00:20:50,840
Speaker 5: I was always twenty twenty five touches as a running back.

445
00:20:51,119 --> 00:20:53,120
Speaker 5: So now when I go back to return to kick,

446
00:20:53,200 --> 00:20:56,640
Speaker 5: maybe third quarter, fourth quarter, sparingly, not the main guy.

447
00:20:56,760 --> 00:20:59,119
Speaker 5: Kind of shared it with guys. But when I go

448
00:20:59,200 --> 00:21:02,040
Speaker 5: back to return one in college and high school, I'm

449
00:21:02,080 --> 00:21:03,960
Speaker 5: in the groove. You got the speed of the game,

450
00:21:04,040 --> 00:21:05,800
Speaker 5: I know the flow of everything, you know what I mean,

451
00:21:06,480 --> 00:21:07,320
Speaker 5: And I just.

452
00:21:07,359 --> 00:21:08,960
Speaker 1: Didn't have that my first years.

453
00:21:08,960 --> 00:21:11,399
Speaker 5: So going over being able to develop as a receiver

454
00:21:11,600 --> 00:21:14,200
Speaker 5: good enough to get in the action of the game

455
00:21:14,359 --> 00:21:20,000
Speaker 5: right now, two three four, Now you got that grove.

456
00:21:20,040 --> 00:21:22,880
Speaker 1: Exactly how you figured it out exactly. Yeah, that's that's big.

457
00:21:22,960 --> 00:21:26,359
Speaker 2: That's big, which I mean probably we could arguably say

458
00:21:26,400 --> 00:21:29,560
Speaker 2: without Europe you probably wouldn't have made. You know, first off,

459
00:21:29,640 --> 00:21:33,280
Speaker 2: let me say congratulations. I know you're making uh the Chiefs.

460
00:21:33,520 --> 00:21:36,640
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, bringing honor hall of fame. Uh my guy,

461
00:21:36,800 --> 00:21:39,359
Speaker 2: my my pastor, my deacon over here. He made the

462
00:21:40,320 --> 00:21:42,399
Speaker 2: New Orleans Saints Hall of Fame. So shout out to

463
00:21:42,440 --> 00:21:43,000
Speaker 2: both of y'all.

464
00:21:43,000 --> 00:21:44,840
Speaker 1: Big congratulations.

465
00:21:44,640 --> 00:21:48,480
Speaker 2: That's like a huge honor in itself. I know you're

466
00:21:48,480 --> 00:21:52,000
Speaker 2: getting inducted this fall. What was running through your mind?

467
00:21:52,080 --> 00:21:54,840
Speaker 2: How did you feel, what was going on? How did

468
00:21:54,840 --> 00:21:57,960
Speaker 2: you find out? Like, tell me everything? When you know,

469
00:21:58,040 --> 00:21:58,960
Speaker 2: mister mister.

470
00:21:58,800 --> 00:22:01,240
Speaker 1: Hunt came to you and he presented you with that news.

471
00:22:01,240 --> 00:22:04,080
Speaker 5: So I was actually golfing, Okay, I was golfing here

472
00:22:04,080 --> 00:22:06,159
Speaker 5: in New York on the golf course. He's gonna talk

473
00:22:06,160 --> 00:22:10,200
Speaker 5: about Yeah, yeah, I'm a Texas guy, So I recognized

474
00:22:10,240 --> 00:22:11,760
Speaker 5: the two to one four even know, if you know

475
00:22:11,760 --> 00:22:13,480
Speaker 5: about the Hunts, they come from Dallas.

476
00:22:13,520 --> 00:22:14,240
Speaker 1: They're from Dallas.

477
00:22:14,240 --> 00:22:17,160
Speaker 5: The Chiefs actually used to be the Dallas Texans, so

478
00:22:17,280 --> 00:22:19,480
Speaker 5: they're real big in the Dallas community. So I see

479
00:22:19,520 --> 00:22:23,000
Speaker 5: the two, one, four, but I put zero contexts that

480
00:22:23,000 --> 00:22:27,040
Speaker 5: that's mister Hunt. I just ignored the call, hit my drive,

481
00:22:27,200 --> 00:22:28,960
Speaker 5: and at this point I'm playing pretty good too, Harden.

482
00:22:28,960 --> 00:22:30,919
Speaker 5: I think I started off like three straight palls.

483
00:22:31,480 --> 00:22:33,359
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, I'm playing. I'm playing. I'm golf for

484
00:22:33,400 --> 00:22:34,919
Speaker 1: my ball. He was in the zone. It was in

485
00:22:34,920 --> 00:22:38,320
Speaker 1: the zone. So I get a voicemail. I'm waiting. I

486
00:22:38,400 --> 00:22:40,200
Speaker 1: checked my voicemail. It's mister Hunt.

487
00:22:41,160 --> 00:22:42,720
Speaker 5: So he was like, give me a call back. But

488
00:22:42,760 --> 00:22:45,960
Speaker 5: it's very monoton If you know mister Hunt, he's never

489
00:22:46,119 --> 00:22:50,520
Speaker 5: way here, He's never here right there, so very even killed.

490
00:22:50,520 --> 00:22:55,280
Speaker 5: You cannot figure out like you know it. Because twenty

491
00:22:55,359 --> 00:22:57,720
Speaker 5: twenty three met him in two thousand, yeah, and twenty

492
00:22:57,720 --> 00:23:00,000
Speaker 5: three years. I've never had a phone come and say

493
00:23:00,280 --> 00:23:03,080
Speaker 5: this man, okay. I see him often all the time.

494
00:23:03,160 --> 00:23:05,920
Speaker 5: It's always cordial, hand say.

495
00:23:05,359 --> 00:23:06,040
Speaker 1: It's all love.

496
00:23:06,359 --> 00:23:09,440
Speaker 5: But I've never gotten a phone call this go either way,

497
00:23:09,640 --> 00:23:13,119
Speaker 5: you know how that is either way my Principal's office.

498
00:23:13,359 --> 00:23:16,800
Speaker 1: Immediately, what have I done? I think I'm pretty good

499
00:23:16,960 --> 00:23:19,040
Speaker 1: right now. I've left all that stuff back in the past.

500
00:23:19,040 --> 00:23:19,880
Speaker 1: But what have I done?

501
00:23:20,560 --> 00:23:24,000
Speaker 5: Let me call find out what it is. Long story, short, short,

502
00:23:24,040 --> 00:23:27,720
Speaker 5: sturvery long. He tells me that, yeah, they decided to

503
00:23:28,000 --> 00:23:31,280
Speaker 5: uh induct me into into this year's Ring of Honor.

504
00:23:32,359 --> 00:23:34,320
Speaker 1: I was excited, he says.

505
00:23:34,400 --> 00:23:38,240
Speaker 5: You can't tell anybody just yet, So put the phone

506
00:23:38,240 --> 00:23:41,119
Speaker 5: down and on my next shot, I had to drive

507
00:23:41,600 --> 00:23:43,240
Speaker 5: that ball went so far right.

508
00:23:44,040 --> 00:23:46,760
Speaker 1: I never found that ball again. I was filled with

509
00:23:46,800 --> 00:23:50,120
Speaker 1: so much excitement, so far right. I couldn't focus any

510
00:23:50,160 --> 00:23:54,800
Speaker 1: more on golf. And I can't tell anybody, But I can't.

511
00:23:54,640 --> 00:23:57,840
Speaker 4: Believe you called him back during the round.

512
00:23:58,880 --> 00:24:01,160
Speaker 1: That's a good point, said, I had to find out.

513
00:24:01,160 --> 00:24:07,040
Speaker 5: I couldn't focus either way, like you're so far but

514
00:24:07,080 --> 00:24:08,040
Speaker 5: that's how I found out.

515
00:24:08,200 --> 00:24:11,520
Speaker 2: That's awesome, man, That's yeah, that's that's back this fall.

516
00:24:11,600 --> 00:24:14,640
Speaker 2: So niney, let's let's go back. So this is this

517
00:24:14,680 --> 00:24:16,680
Speaker 2: is this is kind of a full circle moment. Okay,

518
00:24:16,920 --> 00:24:20,760
Speaker 2: So not in nine you're an A and M. You're

519
00:24:20,760 --> 00:24:25,200
Speaker 2: removed from the team. Uh rc slocum. He removes you

520
00:24:25,240 --> 00:24:27,760
Speaker 2: from the team, and then you're off the team. But

521
00:24:27,840 --> 00:24:31,080
Speaker 2: yet RC Slocum makes some phone calls, does what he

522
00:24:31,160 --> 00:24:33,160
Speaker 2: can to help you get drafted.

523
00:24:33,680 --> 00:24:37,080
Speaker 1: Now your homework, I see a little bit more. Again.

524
00:24:37,840 --> 00:24:39,520
Speaker 2: I got a good team. We got a good team

525
00:24:39,560 --> 00:24:42,119
Speaker 2: of people. So they try to prepare us, you know,

526
00:24:42,200 --> 00:24:44,399
Speaker 2: to be right and do what we can do. And

527
00:24:44,400 --> 00:24:46,080
Speaker 2: we want to tell the correct story, and we want

528
00:24:46,119 --> 00:24:47,920
Speaker 2: to tell it correct. But if I'm getting wrong, please

529
00:24:47,960 --> 00:24:51,760
Speaker 2: do tell me your version. But you removed from the team.

530
00:24:52,320 --> 00:24:54,679
Speaker 2: He goes around, he talks, talks all the coaches and

531
00:24:54,720 --> 00:24:58,160
Speaker 2: things like that. Doesn't stain your name. But he's also

532
00:24:58,280 --> 00:25:01,080
Speaker 2: praising it and trying to uplift you. Right, we've all

533
00:25:01,080 --> 00:25:03,080
Speaker 2: been in college. We've all done dumb things. I know

534
00:25:03,119 --> 00:25:05,560
Speaker 2: I have. I'll be the the I'll be the first

535
00:25:05,560 --> 00:25:08,200
Speaker 2: to admit it on the show. I've done dumb things. Right,

536
00:25:08,760 --> 00:25:11,359
Speaker 2: But but he helps you out, and you know that

537
00:25:11,680 --> 00:25:15,040
Speaker 2: you end up getting drafted, So how did and then

538
00:25:15,600 --> 00:25:19,320
Speaker 2: you also end up getting inducted into their Hall of

539
00:25:19,320 --> 00:25:20,919
Speaker 2: Fame to circles.

540
00:25:21,000 --> 00:25:23,199
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, complete circles.

541
00:25:27,160 --> 00:25:30,639
Speaker 5: So here's your story is not wrong, it's just not complete, okay,

542
00:25:30,720 --> 00:25:33,440
Speaker 5: So can you have to first know this the reason

543
00:25:33,520 --> 00:25:35,840
Speaker 5: I even went to Texas and thew My high school coach,

544
00:25:36,080 --> 00:25:38,480
Speaker 5: the late Great Bernard Simon, was like the father I

545
00:25:38,640 --> 00:25:39,120
Speaker 5: never had.

546
00:25:40,359 --> 00:25:43,360
Speaker 1: He went to Texas and them play for Slocum. That's

547
00:25:43,400 --> 00:25:45,320
Speaker 1: how I ended up there. So they had a relationship.

548
00:25:46,160 --> 00:25:46,800
Speaker 1: That's number one.

549
00:25:46,840 --> 00:25:49,960
Speaker 5: You gotta understand that, your sir. Second thing is why

550
00:25:50,000 --> 00:25:52,960
Speaker 5: did I get kicked off? It was for something so silly,

551
00:25:53,119 --> 00:25:56,480
Speaker 5: dumb as you said, stupid. I had wracked up some

552
00:25:56,640 --> 00:26:02,440
Speaker 5: parking tickets. He comes in to a team meeting frustrated.

553
00:26:02,920 --> 00:26:06,000
Speaker 5: They keep telling them Keith Parking keeps parking here, racking

554
00:26:06,080 --> 00:26:06,560
Speaker 5: up tickets.

555
00:26:07,800 --> 00:26:11,640
Speaker 1: And I maybe had a little Napoleon complex back then.

556
00:26:12,400 --> 00:26:15,240
Speaker 5: So when he started to chastise me in front of

557
00:26:15,280 --> 00:26:16,560
Speaker 5: the team, I took offense to that.

558
00:26:16,760 --> 00:26:21,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, and kind of walked back right forget what I said.

559
00:26:21,280 --> 00:26:23,760
Speaker 1: I kind of blinked out said something. He was like,

560
00:26:23,840 --> 00:26:24,480
Speaker 1: you're off the team.

561
00:26:25,320 --> 00:26:28,760
Speaker 5: By the next day, my high school coach and my

562
00:26:28,920 --> 00:26:31,960
Speaker 5: mom were at A and M in his office having

563
00:26:32,000 --> 00:26:32,359
Speaker 5: a meeting.

564
00:26:33,040 --> 00:26:35,000
Speaker 1: I was actually back on the team that day.

565
00:26:35,640 --> 00:26:41,439
Speaker 5: Actually, the greatest thing definitely talking to NFL personnel, coaches,

566
00:26:41,480 --> 00:26:45,280
Speaker 5: scouts and letting them know, hey, he's not a knock ahead.

567
00:26:45,119 --> 00:26:46,880
Speaker 1: You get a stupid thing. He's a great kid.

568
00:26:47,200 --> 00:26:50,800
Speaker 5: That definitely helped, but I think would help equally or

569
00:26:50,960 --> 00:26:54,080
Speaker 5: more importantly was by the next day he allowed me

570
00:26:54,160 --> 00:26:56,760
Speaker 5: to come right back on scholarship. And by being on scholarship,

571
00:26:57,000 --> 00:26:59,200
Speaker 5: I can still work towards my degree. I can still

572
00:26:59,359 --> 00:27:02,840
Speaker 5: work out. You used the facilities, workout still. I'm just

573
00:27:02,920 --> 00:27:06,240
Speaker 5: not on the team Pross, but I'm still on scholarship.

574
00:27:07,000 --> 00:27:09,080
Speaker 5: That helped me out because now I can still participate

575
00:27:09,280 --> 00:27:12,040
Speaker 5: in pro day. Now I can still go to the combine,

576
00:27:12,520 --> 00:27:14,720
Speaker 5: use the facilities. And at the time we had Mike

577
00:27:14,800 --> 00:27:17,040
Speaker 5: Clark looking him up, one of the greatest strength coaches

578
00:27:17,280 --> 00:27:18,000
Speaker 5: ever in college.

579
00:27:18,240 --> 00:27:20,480
Speaker 1: He got me right. So I killed it at the

580
00:27:20,520 --> 00:27:22,720
Speaker 1: pro day. I killed it at the combine.

581
00:27:23,200 --> 00:27:26,080
Speaker 5: So that next day after when he put me back

582
00:27:26,160 --> 00:27:29,119
Speaker 5: on scholarship, that was a domino effect that allowed me to,

583
00:27:29,440 --> 00:27:32,120
Speaker 5: like I said, still be able to work towards That's big.

584
00:27:32,280 --> 00:27:33,320
Speaker 1: That's huge.

585
00:27:35,359 --> 00:27:37,760
Speaker 5: Because if I could, if he talks all this guit talk,

586
00:27:37,840 --> 00:27:39,760
Speaker 5: but I'm not able to work out get ready for

587
00:27:39,840 --> 00:27:41,000
Speaker 5: the comebine, I still got to do it.

588
00:27:41,080 --> 00:27:43,080
Speaker 1: I still got to go put the work in. The

589
00:27:43,160 --> 00:27:46,440
Speaker 1: most important thing was you can still what was my

590
00:27:47,680 --> 00:27:53,159
Speaker 1: what was you driving? I was so note that was

591
00:27:53,240 --> 00:27:57,560
Speaker 1: the issue. I meant big body being's twenties. One of

592
00:27:57,640 --> 00:28:00,920
Speaker 1: my best friends. His uncle was like a young uncle.

593
00:28:01,640 --> 00:28:03,600
Speaker 1: He lived in my neighborhood. He was a car guy.

594
00:28:03,640 --> 00:28:06,280
Speaker 5: He had a car detailed. He was a businessman. He's

595
00:28:06,320 --> 00:28:08,159
Speaker 5: one of my best friends to this day. I've known

596
00:28:08,200 --> 00:28:10,639
Speaker 5: him over thirty forty years. He used to have the

597
00:28:10,760 --> 00:28:13,600
Speaker 5: brand new Callac escalator when it came out, brand new benzes.

598
00:28:14,040 --> 00:28:15,280
Speaker 1: I'm only an hour and a half away.

599
00:28:15,320 --> 00:28:17,320
Speaker 5: He would let me take the escalator up one week,

600
00:28:17,960 --> 00:28:19,880
Speaker 5: take the bens up another week.

601
00:28:20,000 --> 00:28:25,119
Speaker 1: So obviously these are gonna stand out. I'm eighteen, not

602
00:28:25,160 --> 00:28:28,399
Speaker 1: even eighteen. I was eighteen nineteen at the time. I

603
00:28:28,680 --> 00:28:35,919
Speaker 1: don't understand how this worked. Just yes again, so.

604
00:28:39,360 --> 00:28:41,520
Speaker 4: If it makes you feel any better. I had a

605
00:28:41,600 --> 00:28:46,760
Speaker 4: teammate of mine who got like he got booted up.

606
00:28:46,760 --> 00:28:49,560
Speaker 3: So many times because he was parking in the teacher's

607
00:28:49,600 --> 00:28:53,040
Speaker 3: parking spot. And then he ended up somehow or another

608
00:28:53,160 --> 00:28:55,720
Speaker 3: one of the teachers left their window down. He like

609
00:28:55,960 --> 00:28:58,960
Speaker 3: took their parking pass, like ended up putting it in

610
00:28:59,080 --> 00:29:01,680
Speaker 3: his car and parking and got away with it for

611
00:29:01,840 --> 00:29:04,200
Speaker 3: like a month and a half, and then they found

612
00:29:04,280 --> 00:29:06,240
Speaker 3: him out, and then like he couldn't even have a

613
00:29:06,320 --> 00:29:10,600
Speaker 3: car on campus for like like eight months like nothing.

614
00:29:10,760 --> 00:29:14,880
Speaker 3: So he walking and coaches on him bad. So, I mean,

615
00:29:14,920 --> 00:29:16,040
Speaker 3: these things happen.

616
00:29:17,680 --> 00:29:21,120
Speaker 1: Everybody. I've never been able to defend myself. I always

617
00:29:21,120 --> 00:29:23,960
Speaker 1: had to go off the reason why I wasn't. It

618
00:29:24,120 --> 00:29:27,520
Speaker 1: wasn't o a. I wasn't being malicious, it wasn't being

619
00:29:27,720 --> 00:29:30,320
Speaker 1: aspar brat as coach like to say, and all of

620
00:29:30,360 --> 00:29:32,400
Speaker 1: that what it really was. And you guys can attest

621
00:29:32,440 --> 00:29:32,560
Speaker 1: to this.

622
00:29:33,480 --> 00:29:35,760
Speaker 5: I'm sure you guys had if you were late to class,

623
00:29:35,840 --> 00:29:37,560
Speaker 5: you had to go to some type of penality.

624
00:29:37,760 --> 00:29:40,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, the class run the toe so we call it

625
00:29:40,800 --> 00:29:44,280
Speaker 1: the breakfast club. So if you were on the list

626
00:29:44,320 --> 00:29:46,160
Speaker 1: of anything Friday morning.

627
00:29:46,200 --> 00:29:49,080
Speaker 4: Six am, five am, oh sorry, like you know.

628
00:29:49,240 --> 00:29:53,560
Speaker 1: Slid toes all these crazy things. So they had me

629
00:29:53,800 --> 00:29:54,120
Speaker 1: and him.

630
00:29:54,240 --> 00:29:57,480
Speaker 5: Is a huge campus, enormous, and you got twenty minutes

631
00:29:57,520 --> 00:29:59,840
Speaker 5: to get to the It's impossible to go from you

632
00:30:00,080 --> 00:30:02,640
Speaker 5: because I was an agriculture business made. You got the

633
00:30:02,640 --> 00:30:05,600
Speaker 5: agriculture campus over here. Now you got to get all

634
00:30:05,640 --> 00:30:08,920
Speaker 5: the real car It's just impossible. It's impossible you're gonna

635
00:30:08,960 --> 00:30:11,959
Speaker 5: be late, like it's a scheduling conflict. So a lot

636
00:30:12,040 --> 00:30:14,440
Speaker 5: of times I would just I'd rather get a parking ticket,

637
00:30:14,920 --> 00:30:16,760
Speaker 5: then have to go to the breakfast club on Friday.

638
00:30:16,960 --> 00:30:17,600
Speaker 1: That's my thing.

639
00:30:18,080 --> 00:30:20,520
Speaker 5: It seemed like I was spard driving big bands out

640
00:30:20,560 --> 00:30:22,760
Speaker 5: of that. No, I'm trying to not end up on

641
00:30:22,880 --> 00:30:25,400
Speaker 5: that list to have to run on Friday morning.

642
00:30:25,520 --> 00:30:27,640
Speaker 1: So that was really how much for the speeding ticket

643
00:30:27,760 --> 00:30:31,160
Speaker 1: or the parking tickets? So at that time I'm wracked up.

644
00:30:31,200 --> 00:30:34,920
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean you're talking over a semester or four

645
00:30:35,040 --> 00:30:37,640
Speaker 5: year maybe eight hundred bucks, but a ticket.

646
00:30:37,720 --> 00:30:39,480
Speaker 2: But the ticket itself though, I know when I we

647
00:30:39,600 --> 00:30:44,840
Speaker 2: went twenty bucks, twenty bucks it bus but they up.

648
00:30:44,920 --> 00:30:47,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, Yeah, we're gonna take a short break and we'll

649
00:30:47,680 --> 00:30:48,520
Speaker 1: be back in a minute.

650
00:30:50,680 --> 00:30:52,320
Speaker 3: Now tell me this because I want to know this

651
00:30:52,640 --> 00:30:55,840
Speaker 3: as well. You went through all that drama, you went

652
00:30:55,920 --> 00:30:57,600
Speaker 3: through all those other things. I know how important your

653
00:30:57,640 --> 00:31:00,560
Speaker 3: mom is, single mom, raising you and you your two

654
00:31:00,640 --> 00:31:03,640
Speaker 3: couple of your siblings, and so what did it mean

655
00:31:04,160 --> 00:31:06,760
Speaker 3: not only for her but for the rest of your

656
00:31:06,800 --> 00:31:08,720
Speaker 3: family when you got your name called to get drafted

657
00:31:08,800 --> 00:31:11,920
Speaker 3: after all of that, after all of those things, you

658
00:31:12,040 --> 00:31:13,000
Speaker 3: still get your name.

659
00:31:12,920 --> 00:31:14,800
Speaker 1: Car Yeah, I mean it was a great day.

660
00:31:15,480 --> 00:31:17,720
Speaker 5: It was a great day until I realized what my

661
00:31:17,800 --> 00:31:20,920
Speaker 5: signing bonus was, but that day, that day was great.

662
00:31:21,040 --> 00:31:22,800
Speaker 1: I'm in the NFL. We reached my goal.

663
00:31:22,960 --> 00:31:26,240
Speaker 5: Like you said, we overcame being a little guy. We

664
00:31:26,360 --> 00:31:28,920
Speaker 5: overcame a lot of loss in the family over those years.

665
00:31:28,960 --> 00:31:33,640
Speaker 5: We overcame a lot. But it was just peer happenings.

666
00:31:33,720 --> 00:31:35,680
Speaker 5: Had a huge watch party that day.

667
00:31:35,720 --> 00:31:38,000
Speaker 4: Oh you did, okay, I didn't know because everybody has

668
00:31:38,040 --> 00:31:39,000
Speaker 4: their own feelings on watch.

669
00:31:39,040 --> 00:31:41,720
Speaker 1: Moms invited a lot of people over. It was a

670
00:31:41,800 --> 00:31:45,800
Speaker 1: great day. Great day. Now was actually signed a signing bonus?

671
00:31:46,400 --> 00:31:48,080
Speaker 4: How much was it signing bonus? Can we do you

672
00:31:48,160 --> 00:31:48,880
Speaker 4: like your rookie year?

673
00:31:48,960 --> 00:31:51,320
Speaker 5: It was a rookie year, Chris rom job unlike you

674
00:31:51,400 --> 00:31:53,800
Speaker 5: two guys got that nice bag to start off with.

675
00:31:55,280 --> 00:31:58,200
Speaker 1: It's set one hundred thousand on paper. You know when

676
00:31:58,240 --> 00:32:01,480
Speaker 1: it arrived it was fifty yeah, and I'm like, what

677
00:32:01,520 --> 00:32:04,560
Speaker 1: I'm gonna do fifty five thousand dollars. I came by

678
00:32:04,960 --> 00:32:07,880
Speaker 1: my house with fifty five thousand. It's still work to do.

679
00:32:08,040 --> 00:32:09,040
Speaker 1: So elation.

680
00:32:09,360 --> 00:32:12,400
Speaker 5: Total joy day of the draft. But soon after signing

681
00:32:12,440 --> 00:32:15,320
Speaker 5: that contract, I was like, I still got to put

682
00:32:15,360 --> 00:32:15,920
Speaker 5: some more work in.

683
00:32:16,120 --> 00:32:17,959
Speaker 1: I haven't made it. Even though I'm in the NFL,

684
00:32:18,600 --> 00:32:20,840
Speaker 1: I still haven't made it. People don't realize man them

685
00:32:20,880 --> 00:32:24,040
Speaker 1: taxes and then and then nobody really. Yeah, my good.

686
00:32:24,240 --> 00:32:27,440
Speaker 1: My great friend Sevester Morris was my brother to this day.

687
00:32:27,480 --> 00:32:29,080
Speaker 1: He was in my wedding. I was in his wedding.

688
00:32:29,920 --> 00:32:32,800
Speaker 1: He was a first round draft pick. He signed like

689
00:32:33,080 --> 00:32:37,080
Speaker 1: three something. So I'm going to an eight hundred dollars apartment.

690
00:32:37,160 --> 00:32:39,760
Speaker 1: He going to this biggest state. We both drafted in

691
00:32:39,800 --> 00:32:40,320
Speaker 1: the NFL.

692
00:32:40,720 --> 00:32:44,600
Speaker 5: Two different worlds, yeah, two different world I didn't understand

693
00:32:44,640 --> 00:32:46,320
Speaker 5: that I had no one in my family that made it,

694
00:32:46,600 --> 00:32:47,040
Speaker 5: that could have.

695
00:32:47,120 --> 00:32:49,680
Speaker 1: You know, gave me a.

696
00:32:49,720 --> 00:32:52,760
Speaker 5: Heads up on fifth round draft picks don't live the

697
00:32:52,800 --> 00:32:54,120
Speaker 5: same as first round draft picks.

698
00:32:54,280 --> 00:32:57,960
Speaker 1: Sure, so it was a huge shot. Like, wow, I'm

699
00:32:58,040 --> 00:33:01,360
Speaker 1: still poor. I'm in the NFL, but I'm still poor.

700
00:33:02,200 --> 00:33:04,320
Speaker 1: Like it's unreal. But it all worked out.

701
00:33:04,560 --> 00:33:08,040
Speaker 2: Thirteen year career where you you were ten, you were eleven, Okay,

702
00:33:08,360 --> 00:33:09,760
Speaker 2: eleven year you had nine.

703
00:33:11,280 --> 00:33:16,000
Speaker 1: I played a long time, and I think I could have.

704
00:33:16,320 --> 00:33:18,200
Speaker 2: I would have played until Wills far off because I

705
00:33:18,320 --> 00:33:20,880
Speaker 2: love the game of football so much. You the same way,

706
00:33:21,160 --> 00:33:23,640
Speaker 2: you know, I knew when it was time for me

707
00:33:23,720 --> 00:33:26,600
Speaker 2: to retire because one I got injured and you don't

708
00:33:26,640 --> 00:33:28,440
Speaker 2: want to be a thirty four year old corner with

709
00:33:28,520 --> 00:33:33,200
Speaker 2: a torn ACL. The majority of time, people never retire

710
00:33:33,280 --> 00:33:37,440
Speaker 2: the way they want to. Never very true. It's either,

711
00:33:38,120 --> 00:33:41,600
Speaker 2: you know, I look at the Peyton Manning, Jerome Bettis,

712
00:33:42,560 --> 00:33:46,640
Speaker 2: Ray Lewis, they won that Super Bowl championship and then

713
00:33:46,680 --> 00:33:50,040
Speaker 2: they said, you know what I'm done. I'm finna walk away,

714
00:33:50,640 --> 00:33:54,360
Speaker 2: and I wish. I'm jealous to this day that I

715
00:33:54,480 --> 00:33:57,760
Speaker 2: never got the storybook ending to walk away. I would

716
00:33:57,800 --> 00:34:00,760
Speaker 2: have if we'd have won Super Bowl FI in Denver

717
00:34:01,280 --> 00:34:04,520
Speaker 2: or not Denver, not Denver, but we played Denver, I

718
00:34:04,560 --> 00:34:04,840
Speaker 2: would have.

719
00:34:05,080 --> 00:34:07,080
Speaker 1: I promise you I would have walked away because that

720
00:34:08,520 --> 00:34:09,360
Speaker 1: that was your thirteen.

721
00:34:09,719 --> 00:34:11,799
Speaker 4: Yeah, that was that was my tenth year.

722
00:34:11,920 --> 00:34:12,279
Speaker 1: I would have.

723
00:34:12,360 --> 00:34:13,400
Speaker 4: I would have walked away too.

724
00:34:13,520 --> 00:34:15,840
Speaker 1: I'm like, dude, And because I was, I was chasing.

725
00:34:16,040 --> 00:34:17,520
Speaker 1: I was chasing the super Bowl.

726
00:34:17,840 --> 00:34:20,759
Speaker 2: And I go to Carolina in year thirteen, Roman I

727
00:34:20,880 --> 00:34:22,840
Speaker 2: we finally teammates and were killing it.

728
00:34:23,280 --> 00:34:27,560
Speaker 1: We go to the super Bowl and we lose and

729
00:34:27,600 --> 00:34:29,280
Speaker 1: I didn't even play because I got injured.

730
00:34:29,480 --> 00:34:32,320
Speaker 2: Like three weeks before that, I tore my ACL, so

731
00:34:32,600 --> 00:34:34,080
Speaker 2: I was crushed and I'm like, damn.

732
00:34:34,200 --> 00:34:35,640
Speaker 4: That was like that was it for me.

733
00:34:35,920 --> 00:34:38,200
Speaker 1: We got to win the Super Bowl. So my last

734
00:34:38,239 --> 00:34:40,719
Speaker 1: play is me actually getting injured, like running and I

735
00:34:40,840 --> 00:34:41,640
Speaker 1: tear my ACL.

736
00:34:42,280 --> 00:34:44,480
Speaker 2: So I knew at that point my life or not life,

737
00:34:44,560 --> 00:34:47,120
Speaker 2: my career was over. At what point did you know

738
00:34:47,360 --> 00:34:48,800
Speaker 2: it was tom for you to retire.

739
00:34:49,400 --> 00:34:50,239
Speaker 1: That's a great question.

740
00:34:50,880 --> 00:34:53,759
Speaker 5: It was actually a series of things all when I

741
00:34:53,920 --> 00:34:57,759
Speaker 5: once I went to uh the at the time Saint

742
00:34:57,840 --> 00:34:58,440
Speaker 5: Louis Rams.

743
00:34:58,560 --> 00:34:58,719
Speaker 1: Yeah.

744
00:34:58,960 --> 00:35:03,480
Speaker 5: So the first that put retirming on my radar was

745
00:35:03,960 --> 00:35:06,800
Speaker 5: they trade for me. The Rams did from the Chiefs.

746
00:35:06,920 --> 00:35:10,640
Speaker 5: So I'm coming to be their returner savior missing Lincoln.

747
00:35:12,200 --> 00:35:12,719
Speaker 1: Going to the.

748
00:35:12,719 --> 00:35:15,319
Speaker 5: First game, I break out. Matter of fact, it's against

749
00:35:15,360 --> 00:35:19,759
Speaker 5: Carolina Panthers. I break out normally, this is a house call,

750
00:35:19,880 --> 00:35:22,840
Speaker 5: like I'm out. Yeah, I got caught from behind, the

751
00:35:22,880 --> 00:35:25,480
Speaker 5: first time in my career that I legitimately got call

752
00:35:25,560 --> 00:35:26,000
Speaker 5: from behind.

753
00:35:26,080 --> 00:35:29,160
Speaker 1: That's a real call. I'm looking at you, you know

754
00:35:30,200 --> 00:35:33,560
Speaker 1: the TV cut up, it's that, you know, why?

755
00:35:33,840 --> 00:35:34,000
Speaker 3: Why?

756
00:35:34,160 --> 00:35:34,359
Speaker 2: God?

757
00:35:34,600 --> 00:35:37,480
Speaker 1: I'm looking like, oh, that's on me. I just got

758
00:35:37,680 --> 00:35:40,760
Speaker 1: rand down. That's the first time. And this is your eight.

759
00:35:42,120 --> 00:35:44,520
Speaker 5: Fourth fear of my five year contract that they took over,

760
00:35:45,000 --> 00:35:46,919
Speaker 5: and so I have a fifth year option team ops

761
00:35:47,840 --> 00:35:50,279
Speaker 5: that you know, they can decide they want to pay me.

762
00:35:50,480 --> 00:35:51,319
Speaker 1: You know how those are.

763
00:35:51,600 --> 00:35:54,840
Speaker 5: That's why they backload everything. Yeah, so at the I

764
00:35:54,960 --> 00:35:57,080
Speaker 5: have to say that to say this, so I get caught,

765
00:35:57,400 --> 00:35:58,239
Speaker 5: I mean your eight.

766
00:35:59,840 --> 00:36:02,200
Speaker 1: I'm like, man, this ain't good.

767
00:36:03,040 --> 00:36:05,880
Speaker 5: Maybe I can make it through one more year, finish

768
00:36:05,920 --> 00:36:08,200
Speaker 5: out this contract, make this little money, and then I'll

769
00:36:08,280 --> 00:36:11,879
Speaker 5: be good. Five games later, I have a high anchor

770
00:36:11,920 --> 00:36:15,480
Speaker 5: sprank the first time in eight years that I'm missing.

771
00:36:15,560 --> 00:36:18,080
Speaker 1: I'm on OURR. Seven years with the Chiefs. I think

772
00:36:18,120 --> 00:36:21,000
Speaker 1: I missed three games dude to injury. Only three and

773
00:36:21,080 --> 00:36:23,359
Speaker 1: seven years. Here's your eight.

774
00:36:23,600 --> 00:36:26,680
Speaker 3: I get ran down, I'm put on i R. I'm

775
00:36:26,760 --> 00:36:29,920
Speaker 3: done and I and I areck there. You don't designate

776
00:36:29,960 --> 00:36:30,440
Speaker 3: to return.

777
00:36:30,560 --> 00:36:36,600
Speaker 1: This is you can you are, you can believe, do

778
00:36:36,680 --> 00:36:38,759
Speaker 1: your rehab wherever you want. Like, you're not coming back.

779
00:36:38,800 --> 00:36:40,480
Speaker 1: Once they designate you are, You're done.

780
00:36:41,040 --> 00:36:43,520
Speaker 5: Yes, So I go back to Houston when I started

781
00:36:43,560 --> 00:36:46,799
Speaker 5: playing the Tiger Woods game. I'm rehabbing, playing the Tiger

782
00:36:46,840 --> 00:36:48,920
Speaker 5: Woods game for the first time, picked up golf.

783
00:36:49,440 --> 00:36:53,000
Speaker 1: Gotta throw that in there. Second year, I mean second

784
00:36:53,040 --> 00:36:55,200
Speaker 1: year with the Rams, last year on my fifth year deal,

785
00:36:55,480 --> 00:36:56,680
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, they brought me back.

786
00:36:56,760 --> 00:37:00,839
Speaker 5: Okay, make this gooda and you know it, I'll see

787
00:37:00,840 --> 00:37:04,160
Speaker 5: what happens. I injured my other ankle, high ankle, sprang

788
00:37:04,200 --> 00:37:08,200
Speaker 5: on the right our our again. That along with having

789
00:37:08,320 --> 00:37:11,200
Speaker 5: played that Arrowhead stadium. If you know anything about Ara,

790
00:37:11,360 --> 00:37:13,799
Speaker 5: I know you guys do you can't go from there

791
00:37:14,160 --> 00:37:16,000
Speaker 5: to playing in the stadium. I was playing with the

792
00:37:16,080 --> 00:37:21,160
Speaker 5: Rams so injuries, fulfill my contract and just lost my

793
00:37:21,560 --> 00:37:25,400
Speaker 5: love for playing the game because it was such a

794
00:37:25,600 --> 00:37:27,799
Speaker 5: difference planning raw Head then playing.

795
00:37:27,520 --> 00:37:31,640
Speaker 1: With a franchise that's on its way out, dark stadium,

796
00:37:31,719 --> 00:37:35,920
Speaker 1: half field. We're losing that combination. I was like, I'm done.

797
00:37:35,960 --> 00:37:39,160
Speaker 5: I don't owe anybody any money, fulfill my contract. My

798
00:37:39,320 --> 00:37:41,680
Speaker 5: body is telling me it's time to go, and I'm

799
00:37:41,719 --> 00:37:44,719
Speaker 5: not having fun. It was a series of those things

800
00:37:44,800 --> 00:37:47,120
Speaker 5: that when I completed that fifth year, a series of

801
00:37:47,320 --> 00:37:50,640
Speaker 5: unfortunate events. Because I think, if I'm still in the area,

802
00:37:50,760 --> 00:37:52,480
Speaker 5: or if I'm on a winning team, or if I'm

803
00:37:52,560 --> 00:37:55,680
Speaker 5: happy and not injured, I could have definitely played probably

804
00:37:55,760 --> 00:37:59,600
Speaker 5: two two more at least, even though I wasn't as fast.

805
00:37:59,680 --> 00:38:02,520
Speaker 5: I said had the ball skill, I still had the vision,

806
00:38:02,560 --> 00:38:05,040
Speaker 5: I had everything. I could still go lead the you know,

807
00:38:05,239 --> 00:38:08,040
Speaker 5: be top five, top ten in the league. Maybe not

808
00:38:08,120 --> 00:38:10,759
Speaker 5: one of the greatest, but I saw Brian Minchell do

809
00:38:10,880 --> 00:38:15,879
Speaker 5: for fourteen. Yeah, but he had all the other intangibles

810
00:38:15,880 --> 00:38:19,640
Speaker 5: and I had those minster speed. So in hindsight, I'm like, oh,

811
00:38:19,680 --> 00:38:21,520
Speaker 5: I probably should have got two or three more years in.

812
00:38:21,920 --> 00:38:26,080
Speaker 3: But those were the things that So as your emotions

813
00:38:26,160 --> 00:38:29,040
Speaker 3: kind of changed, you talked about you picking up golf

814
00:38:29,080 --> 00:38:32,360
Speaker 3: a little bit. What was your like, what was the

815
00:38:32,400 --> 00:38:34,120
Speaker 3: first time you like hit it? And you're like, man,

816
00:38:34,200 --> 00:38:37,760
Speaker 3: this is it for me because most times we remember

817
00:38:37,960 --> 00:38:38,560
Speaker 3: when we get that.

818
00:38:38,920 --> 00:38:39,640
Speaker 1: Well, what got it?

819
00:38:39,840 --> 00:38:41,560
Speaker 4: What got me was into golf.

820
00:38:41,640 --> 00:38:44,280
Speaker 1: I was kind of becoming really good on the EA

821
00:38:44,400 --> 00:38:46,000
Speaker 1: Tiger Woods game HU, and.

822
00:38:46,000 --> 00:38:47,239
Speaker 5: Then I went out to try to do it and

823
00:38:47,800 --> 00:38:50,000
Speaker 5: not do I Look, so the first time I felt

824
00:38:50,120 --> 00:38:53,279
Speaker 5: unathletic in my life, right, That's what hooked me.

825
00:38:53,480 --> 00:38:55,320
Speaker 1: It wasn't a good shot. It was a fact I

826
00:38:55,320 --> 00:38:57,360
Speaker 1: couldn't get that little white ball off the ground. It

827
00:38:57,520 --> 00:39:00,719
Speaker 1: wasn't moving, Like, come on, that's a trick. What's going on?

828
00:39:00,800 --> 00:39:01,360
Speaker 4: How do you do that?

829
00:39:02,440 --> 00:39:04,759
Speaker 1: Hooked from that point on, that's what's up.

830
00:39:04,880 --> 00:39:08,279
Speaker 2: So we now I think you're kind of like me

831
00:39:08,360 --> 00:39:10,360
Speaker 2: in the sense of what when I am to the

832
00:39:10,440 --> 00:39:13,000
Speaker 2: Chicago Bears, like you know, the team, they bring me in.

833
00:39:14,000 --> 00:39:16,640
Speaker 2: I still hang around the facility every so often. I'm

834
00:39:16,640 --> 00:39:18,880
Speaker 2: not there all the time, but they want me around.

835
00:39:19,280 --> 00:39:22,200
Speaker 2: I'm kind of like the unspoken ambassador.

836
00:39:22,440 --> 00:39:25,759
Speaker 1: That's what it's called. Yeah, I'm like the unspoken ambassador.

837
00:39:26,320 --> 00:39:27,399
Speaker 4: Uh for the team.

838
00:39:27,560 --> 00:39:29,640
Speaker 1: I know you the same way. And New Orleans whenever

839
00:39:29,719 --> 00:39:32,719
Speaker 1: you go there, you and your your black jackets. Thank you.

840
00:39:33,880 --> 00:39:34,920
Speaker 4: It was a Hall of Fame jacket.

841
00:39:35,000 --> 00:39:36,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, it is a Hall of Fame jacket. What has

842
00:39:36,719 --> 00:39:39,320
Speaker 1: that experience been like for you? It's been amazing because

843
00:39:39,719 --> 00:39:41,400
Speaker 1: when I first retired, it wasn't like that.

844
00:39:41,680 --> 00:39:44,360
Speaker 5: Yeah, the regime that they had in there just was

845
00:39:44,480 --> 00:39:48,320
Speaker 5: not about including past guy but just Andy Reid, Brett

846
00:39:48,440 --> 00:39:54,920
Speaker 5: Vach Mark, Donovan Clark Hunt. This regime, they have a

847
00:39:56,400 --> 00:40:00,840
Speaker 5: very well established, awesome, amazing ambassador of ground. You have

848
00:40:00,920 --> 00:40:03,680
Speaker 5: to be vetted, you you have to be, you know,

849
00:40:03,920 --> 00:40:06,319
Speaker 5: a pillar in the community. It's like when you were

850
00:40:06,360 --> 00:40:09,440
Speaker 5: a player. You can't ambassador team or you're not an

851
00:40:09,480 --> 00:40:10,440
Speaker 5: ambassador anymore.

852
00:40:10,640 --> 00:40:11,160
Speaker 1: It's legit.

853
00:40:11,360 --> 00:40:14,040
Speaker 5: We even get Super Bowl rings when they win. We

854
00:40:14,160 --> 00:40:16,600
Speaker 5: win the ambassadors. If you're an ambassador, not just a

855
00:40:16,680 --> 00:40:17,920
Speaker 5: former player with a big name.

856
00:40:18,080 --> 00:40:22,080
Speaker 1: So you got two rings, I got two rings. I

857
00:40:22,200 --> 00:40:22,880
Speaker 1: got to rings.

858
00:40:22,960 --> 00:40:24,360
Speaker 4: Oh my god, what.

859
00:40:26,120 --> 00:40:26,759
Speaker 1: I want to ring?

860
00:40:26,880 --> 00:40:29,040
Speaker 4: That's game?

861
00:40:32,120 --> 00:40:34,160
Speaker 5: Do you guys have an ambassador program with the Chicago

862
00:40:34,200 --> 00:40:36,200
Speaker 5: Bass like legit like that. It you go out, you

863
00:40:36,320 --> 00:40:39,320
Speaker 5: raise money, you can do that.

864
00:40:39,960 --> 00:40:42,919
Speaker 1: So our ambassador program, we we take the notes people.

865
00:40:43,719 --> 00:40:45,640
Speaker 1: We didn't earn it on the field, but we earned it.

866
00:40:47,520 --> 00:40:50,520
Speaker 1: You earned it. So Rome always gives me. Can I curse?

867
00:40:50,840 --> 00:40:53,040
Speaker 4: H Rome always gives me.

868
00:40:54,040 --> 00:40:56,360
Speaker 2: Because I don't have a Super Bowl ring and I

869
00:40:56,600 --> 00:40:59,200
Speaker 2: chased one for third years.

870
00:40:59,360 --> 00:41:00,719
Speaker 4: I probably would have one the second one.

871
00:41:00,760 --> 00:41:03,279
Speaker 3: If you weren't on the team that you could have

872
00:41:03,320 --> 00:41:06,920
Speaker 3: blocked that A and M guy, Oh my god, somebody

873
00:41:07,400 --> 00:41:08,239
Speaker 3: somebody could have.

874
00:41:08,920 --> 00:41:11,560
Speaker 2: And I'm not I'm not blowing my blowing smoke up

875
00:41:12,040 --> 00:41:14,560
Speaker 2: or pumping me up. But I think if if I

876
00:41:14,600 --> 00:41:16,040
Speaker 2: could have played in the Super Bowl, if I could

877
00:41:16,040 --> 00:41:17,839
Speaker 2: have played in Bowl, definitely would have made a play.

878
00:41:18,200 --> 00:41:20,719
Speaker 2: I think I think that I could have been a

879
00:41:20,800 --> 00:41:22,799
Speaker 2: deciding not a deciding factor, but I think I could

880
00:41:22,840 --> 00:41:25,640
Speaker 2: have had some impact on the game itself. I would

881
00:41:25,640 --> 00:41:28,520
Speaker 2: agree with that, but I'm always, oh my god, you

882
00:41:28,680 --> 00:41:30,480
Speaker 2: just I'm just so I'm happy for you.

883
00:41:30,640 --> 00:41:32,040
Speaker 4: I'm happy for you too, very.

884
00:41:31,960 --> 00:41:37,200
Speaker 1: Happy to the club. Yeah, you need to touch Chicago

885
00:41:37,239 --> 00:41:39,200
Speaker 1: about that. In basket program. It's a great way to

886
00:41:39,239 --> 00:41:40,799
Speaker 1: stay involved and you do great things.

887
00:41:40,880 --> 00:41:41,000
Speaker 3: Man.

888
00:41:42,120 --> 00:41:45,160
Speaker 1: Now Chicago does have to win the super Bowl. I

889
00:41:45,160 --> 00:41:47,320
Speaker 1: don't know if that's going to happen. He's got to

890
00:41:48,360 --> 00:41:51,160
Speaker 1: got nothing. You got one, I have nothing.

891
00:41:51,400 --> 00:41:53,919
Speaker 4: Oh my god. So you're standing over in the corner. Now, okay,

892
00:41:54,680 --> 00:41:56,000
Speaker 4: let us let us champions talk.

893
00:41:56,520 --> 00:41:57,600
Speaker 1: The last guy had.

894
00:41:59,360 --> 00:42:01,920
Speaker 4: I go third ten years and I walk away with nothing,

895
00:42:02,719 --> 00:42:03,360
Speaker 4: no hardware.

896
00:42:06,440 --> 00:42:09,400
Speaker 1: You should have the crew tell me this.

897
00:42:09,600 --> 00:42:12,000
Speaker 4: Tell me this though. So you almost got back into

898
00:42:12,040 --> 00:42:13,160
Speaker 4: coaching at one point I did.

899
00:42:13,440 --> 00:42:14,680
Speaker 1: I thought that was my segue.

900
00:42:14,840 --> 00:42:18,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, so talk talk us through that, because that's what.

901
00:42:18,120 --> 00:42:20,759
Speaker 1: I actually I knew. I told you guys getting there.

902
00:42:20,680 --> 00:42:22,520
Speaker 4: Because you seem like you're really enjoying what you're doing.

903
00:42:22,600 --> 00:42:25,759
Speaker 1: Now. Yes, my happenstance. I fell into what I'm doing now.

904
00:42:26,040 --> 00:42:28,880
Speaker 5: But in the beginning, my master plan, my segue, my

905
00:42:29,080 --> 00:42:33,160
Speaker 5: second act. I wanted to first be an agent. Okay, okay,

906
00:42:33,560 --> 00:42:35,640
Speaker 5: be an agent. You're the first player I've heard I

907
00:42:35,680 --> 00:42:38,320
Speaker 5: want to actually be a sports agent. Okay, that's a

908
00:42:38,360 --> 00:42:40,200
Speaker 5: whole plethora of reasons.

909
00:42:39,880 --> 00:42:42,399
Speaker 1: Why and all of that. But I wanted a way

910
00:42:42,520 --> 00:42:44,520
Speaker 1: to stay involved with the game.

911
00:42:44,640 --> 00:42:46,440
Speaker 5: Yes, I know, I didn't want to be an NFL

912
00:42:46,520 --> 00:42:49,000
Speaker 5: coach or a college coach because I knew what that meant.

913
00:42:49,360 --> 00:42:51,240
Speaker 5: And I also knew at the time I was getting

914
00:42:51,320 --> 00:42:54,160
Speaker 5: serious my wife now but my girlfriend at the time,

915
00:42:55,320 --> 00:42:56,800
Speaker 5: and I knew I wanted to start a family.

916
00:42:57,160 --> 00:43:00,600
Speaker 1: Okay. I come from a great family when I was young.

917
00:43:00,680 --> 00:43:03,799
Speaker 5: As I got older, the family kind of dissipated, as

918
00:43:03,840 --> 00:43:05,200
Speaker 5: they all do in this day and time.

919
00:43:06,080 --> 00:43:08,080
Speaker 1: So I was I feel like the NFL had gave

920
00:43:08,160 --> 00:43:08,880
Speaker 1: me everything.

921
00:43:09,200 --> 00:43:12,040
Speaker 5: The only thing I was lacking was that cohesive, tight

922
00:43:12,160 --> 00:43:14,719
Speaker 5: knit family like I grew up with when I was

923
00:43:15,600 --> 00:43:19,640
Speaker 5: so for me, coaching at the NFL or collegiate level

924
00:43:20,080 --> 00:43:23,040
Speaker 5: was out because I knew how they would dictate family.

925
00:43:24,360 --> 00:43:26,240
Speaker 5: So I was like, what's the way I can stay involved,

926
00:43:26,440 --> 00:43:30,000
Speaker 5: help players, give back, but be on my own time.

927
00:43:30,239 --> 00:43:32,400
Speaker 1: Sports agent was what I came up with, and I

928
00:43:32,440 --> 00:43:33,560
Speaker 1: actually liked the lifestyle.

929
00:43:33,600 --> 00:43:36,600
Speaker 5: I don't mind traveling and reaching out to guys and

930
00:43:36,640 --> 00:43:39,160
Speaker 5: having to watch a ton of THEILM and YadA, YadA, YadA.

931
00:43:39,280 --> 00:43:41,640
Speaker 1: That was my segue. The year I go in I

932
00:43:41,680 --> 00:43:44,920
Speaker 1: actually had an internship in La La interning.

933
00:43:45,239 --> 00:43:48,560
Speaker 5: This was twenty ten. I believe that's the year they changed.

934
00:43:48,920 --> 00:43:52,400
Speaker 5: You can no longer have runners. Yeah, you gotta have

935
00:43:52,640 --> 00:43:55,120
Speaker 5: you gotta actually have practice law for two years or

936
00:43:55,520 --> 00:43:56,240
Speaker 5: be a lawyer.

937
00:43:56,320 --> 00:43:58,439
Speaker 4: And the passive tests.

938
00:43:58,560 --> 00:44:00,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, but passive tests was no problem.

939
00:44:00,719 --> 00:44:02,360
Speaker 5: It was the fact they put in the new you

940
00:44:02,440 --> 00:44:05,080
Speaker 5: had to actually have a law degree or have been

941
00:44:05,120 --> 00:44:06,239
Speaker 5: practicing law for two years.

942
00:44:06,280 --> 00:44:08,320
Speaker 1: Look that up. That so that took me off of

943
00:44:08,400 --> 00:44:11,440
Speaker 1: that segue. I was like, okay, maybe a high school coaching.

944
00:44:11,520 --> 00:44:14,600
Speaker 5: Because I mentioned earlier one of the most important people

945
00:44:14,680 --> 00:44:16,239
Speaker 5: is in my life was my high school coach.

946
00:44:16,719 --> 00:44:20,319
Speaker 1: At a forking the road in my young life.

947
00:44:20,360 --> 00:44:23,000
Speaker 5: Back in high school, I was really starting to get

948
00:44:23,040 --> 00:44:25,280
Speaker 5: into some trouble, running with the wrong guys.

949
00:44:25,840 --> 00:44:29,080
Speaker 1: He intervened, not about with his words. He let me

950
00:44:29,160 --> 00:44:30,359
Speaker 1: live in his house for a little bit.

951
00:44:30,800 --> 00:44:33,360
Speaker 5: And if you guys are family guys, now you bringing

952
00:44:33,440 --> 00:44:36,160
Speaker 5: some stranger into your home with your wife and your kids.

953
00:44:36,600 --> 00:44:38,120
Speaker 1: So as I got older and realized what.

954
00:44:38,160 --> 00:44:41,960
Speaker 5: He did for me, you you appreciate, you appreciate it more,

955
00:44:42,520 --> 00:44:44,440
Speaker 5: and I kind of wanted to fall in his footsteps

956
00:44:44,440 --> 00:44:46,560
Speaker 5: because money at the time wasn't an issue. I didn't

957
00:44:46,600 --> 00:44:49,040
Speaker 5: need to chase a dollar. I wanted to make an impact,

958
00:44:49,120 --> 00:44:51,959
Speaker 5: stay close to sports so men in LA can.

959
00:44:51,960 --> 00:44:52,200
Speaker 1: Do the.

960
00:44:53,880 --> 00:44:56,320
Speaker 5: I could, but that I didn't have time to go

961
00:44:56,400 --> 00:44:58,200
Speaker 5: to law school and do all that at that point.

962
00:44:58,640 --> 00:45:00,719
Speaker 5: So I was like, Okay, maybe I can go make

963
00:45:00,760 --> 00:45:03,040
Speaker 5: an impact being a high school coach. So I actually

964
00:45:03,120 --> 00:45:05,839
Speaker 5: went and I coached high school football for one year

965
00:45:06,200 --> 00:45:10,680
Speaker 5: and Long Beach, uh Long Beach, California at Saint Anthony's.

966
00:45:11,640 --> 00:45:14,120
Speaker 1: Realize right then and there, I am not cut out

967
00:45:14,160 --> 00:45:17,080
Speaker 1: for this. These damn kids. They don't listen. They think

968
00:45:17,160 --> 00:45:20,640
Speaker 1: they know it all. Social media got them thinking they

969
00:45:20,719 --> 00:45:22,360
Speaker 1: better than with like all these elements.

970
00:45:22,440 --> 00:45:24,480
Speaker 5: I'm like, nah, I'm gonna be that show one of

971
00:45:24,520 --> 00:45:27,840
Speaker 5: these little kids out man and these high school coaches.

972
00:45:28,239 --> 00:45:30,399
Speaker 1: I didn't think. I did not that took a turn.

973
00:45:31,040 --> 00:45:33,319
Speaker 1: That was I did not think he was gonna say

974
00:45:33,360 --> 00:45:36,400
Speaker 1: that he's got these damn kids. They don't do that.

975
00:45:36,840 --> 00:45:38,840
Speaker 1: I don't know if you work with younger kids, it's tough, man.

976
00:45:38,880 --> 00:45:42,080
Speaker 1: That's a difference. Is my kids we grew up.

977
00:45:42,080 --> 00:45:44,239
Speaker 2: I think I'm or my kids friends like, man, your

978
00:45:44,320 --> 00:45:46,760
Speaker 2: dad's mean It's like, I'm not mean, I just demand respect.

979
00:45:46,880 --> 00:45:49,960
Speaker 1: You're you're gonna get it too, though. You're gonna get

980
00:45:49,960 --> 00:45:50,719
Speaker 1: it as your kids get.

981
00:45:50,719 --> 00:45:52,959
Speaker 3: It's funny though, because my dad was a high school coach,

982
00:45:53,200 --> 00:45:56,360
Speaker 3: and as I went through high school and went to college,

983
00:45:56,560 --> 00:45:59,000
Speaker 3: I would ask them all of them, like, Dad, how

984
00:45:59,040 --> 00:46:00,320
Speaker 3: did you coach in high school?

985
00:46:00,360 --> 00:46:00,480
Speaker 1: Man?

986
00:46:00,600 --> 00:46:02,480
Speaker 4: Like number one of these kids aren't that good?

987
00:46:02,680 --> 00:46:05,640
Speaker 3: They then so like you're probably more frustrated and like

988
00:46:05,800 --> 00:46:07,400
Speaker 3: and you trying to get these things out and all

989
00:46:07,440 --> 00:46:09,400
Speaker 3: you're trying to do is coach and teach them, and

990
00:46:09,520 --> 00:46:10,640
Speaker 3: like they don't really listen.

991
00:46:11,080 --> 00:46:12,760
Speaker 4: It's like, I'm like, how do you do high school?

992
00:46:12,800 --> 00:46:14,040
Speaker 4: High school seems so tough.

993
00:46:14,480 --> 00:46:16,880
Speaker 3: And he was like, really, the joy comes when you

994
00:46:17,000 --> 00:46:20,239
Speaker 3: get a kid that can't do anything. And then by

995
00:46:20,400 --> 00:46:22,719
Speaker 3: like after two or three years you working with this kid.

996
00:46:22,880 --> 00:46:25,520
Speaker 3: He can backpedal, he can go out there and tackle people,

997
00:46:25,760 --> 00:46:27,640
Speaker 3: he can like do all the little things and like,

998
00:46:27,800 --> 00:46:28,840
Speaker 3: and you poured all that.

999
00:46:28,920 --> 00:46:30,560
Speaker 4: Into him because when he showed up here, he had.

1000
00:46:30,520 --> 00:46:33,160
Speaker 3: Nothing, and now he's got a couple of tools he

1001
00:46:33,200 --> 00:46:34,520
Speaker 3: can go out there and take out there, he can

1002
00:46:34,560 --> 00:46:36,280
Speaker 3: get through a couple of plays or series.

1003
00:46:36,480 --> 00:46:38,279
Speaker 4: He's like that's what you take more pride, and that's

1004
00:46:38,400 --> 00:46:39,720
Speaker 4: like the real wins.

1005
00:46:39,760 --> 00:46:42,480
Speaker 5: And I was like, yeah, yeah, I never and it

1006
00:46:42,520 --> 00:46:44,680
Speaker 5: takes a special man. This is also right, you got

1007
00:46:44,760 --> 00:46:46,920
Speaker 5: to be a special man. I realized quickly.

1008
00:46:48,239 --> 00:46:51,239
Speaker 1: I'm not that guy. I know, I'm another way. It's

1009
00:46:51,320 --> 00:46:54,719
Speaker 1: not my land. I appreciate your father, my high school coach.

1010
00:46:55,280 --> 00:46:56,759
Speaker 5: And then I went back to Texas A and M

1011
00:46:57,920 --> 00:47:00,799
Speaker 5: because they had a program to where if you did

1012
00:47:00,920 --> 00:47:04,560
Speaker 5: some coaching, it was a coaching program to where you

1013
00:47:04,600 --> 00:47:06,279
Speaker 5: could coach for the team. It's kind of like an

1014
00:47:06,320 --> 00:47:10,040
Speaker 5: intern what they called GA graduate assistant and finish your degree.

1015
00:47:10,280 --> 00:47:12,000
Speaker 1: Yes, So I went back and worked with This is

1016
00:47:12,000 --> 00:47:15,040
Speaker 1: when johnnyman Zeil was there. Yeah hot times, Yeah yeah,

1017
00:47:15,080 --> 00:47:17,960
Speaker 1: big times yep, yep, during that era. So went back,

1018
00:47:18,480 --> 00:47:21,680
Speaker 1: did that for a semester degree. Kevin Summer brought me in,

1019
00:47:21,800 --> 00:47:23,160
Speaker 1: great dude, brought me in.

1020
00:47:23,280 --> 00:47:25,760
Speaker 5: And I did that for a semester, finished my degree,

1021
00:47:26,239 --> 00:47:29,959
Speaker 5: and I just knew from those two experiences coaching.

1022
00:47:29,760 --> 00:47:32,560
Speaker 1: Was not for me. Yeah, the termine for me was

1023
00:47:32,760 --> 00:47:33,080
Speaker 1: all of this.

1024
00:47:33,400 --> 00:47:37,640
Speaker 5: At this time, this is twenty twelve, twenty thirteen, I'm

1025
00:47:37,680 --> 00:47:40,359
Speaker 5: also getting serious with my wife. No, I'm gonna get married,

1026
00:47:40,440 --> 00:47:43,160
Speaker 5: want to have a family. We're deciding because I'm from Texas,

1027
00:47:43,239 --> 00:47:46,000
Speaker 5: he's from the East Coast, where we're gonna live. What

1028
00:47:46,120 --> 00:47:47,960
Speaker 5: it's gonna be now having to start to make some

1029
00:47:48,160 --> 00:47:50,880
Speaker 5: real decisions. Yeah, okay, where's my life gonna go?

1030
00:47:50,960 --> 00:47:51,080
Speaker 3: Now?

1031
00:47:51,120 --> 00:47:52,360
Speaker 1: It's not just about me anymore.

1032
00:47:52,600 --> 00:47:56,440
Speaker 5: So the term for me was not the traveling recruiting hours.

1033
00:47:56,600 --> 00:48:00,200
Speaker 5: It was this is gonna take away from you. I'm

1034
00:48:00,239 --> 00:48:03,840
Speaker 5: really trying to build and that's what's my determ. So

1035
00:48:04,040 --> 00:48:08,640
Speaker 5: you you mentioned earlier about your your coach in high school.

1036
00:48:08,640 --> 00:48:10,480
Speaker 1: What was his name? Bernard Simon? Simon?

1037
00:48:10,600 --> 00:48:15,360
Speaker 2: Coach Simon, he'd be on your Mount Rushmore because he was,

1038
00:48:15,440 --> 00:48:17,120
Speaker 2: like he played a pivotal role in your life and

1039
00:48:17,320 --> 00:48:19,560
Speaker 2: just everything he taught you instilled in you and just

1040
00:48:20,440 --> 00:48:23,520
Speaker 2: uh molded you and helped you and you know, just

1041
00:48:23,640 --> 00:48:25,640
Speaker 2: kind of guided you in that in that way, all

1042
00:48:25,719 --> 00:48:28,400
Speaker 2: so off the field, Yeah, right, he was teaching how

1043
00:48:28,440 --> 00:48:33,520
Speaker 2: to be a man. Who do you put else or

1044
00:48:33,560 --> 00:48:36,320
Speaker 2: who else is on that Mount Rushmore with you or

1045
00:48:36,360 --> 00:48:36,640
Speaker 2: with him?

1046
00:48:36,680 --> 00:48:39,000
Speaker 1: Excuse me? Oh, that's a great question. Obviously, moms.

1047
00:48:39,520 --> 00:48:43,439
Speaker 5: You got moms coach, and then my wife because she's

1048
00:48:43,480 --> 00:48:46,239
Speaker 5: the one that's given me, probably through our kids and

1049
00:48:46,400 --> 00:48:50,160
Speaker 5: just being rock solid that she is purpose after football. Yeah,

1050
00:48:50,160 --> 00:48:51,960
Speaker 5: And I struggled with that after football for about a

1051
00:48:52,040 --> 00:48:54,520
Speaker 5: year or two, trying to find purpose. So I go,

1052
00:48:54,760 --> 00:48:59,000
Speaker 5: Mom's Bernard's wife, and then can I put my Can

1053
00:48:59,040 --> 00:49:02,560
Speaker 5: I just mold my it's into one and put them

1054
00:49:02,680 --> 00:49:02,960
Speaker 5: up there?

1055
00:49:03,239 --> 00:49:04,880
Speaker 1: That would be my fourth Why would your kids be

1056
00:49:05,000 --> 00:49:06,800
Speaker 1: up there? The wife and the kids, that kind of

1057
00:49:06,840 --> 00:49:09,840
Speaker 1: go hand in hand. Purpose, I think the hard for me.

1058
00:49:09,920 --> 00:49:10,920
Speaker 1: I can't speak for everyone.

1059
00:49:11,239 --> 00:49:13,880
Speaker 5: I think a lot of times people get depressed talking

1060
00:49:13,920 --> 00:49:18,120
Speaker 5: for my athletes and have troubles after football because yet

1061
00:49:18,280 --> 00:49:21,920
Speaker 5: you play at such a high level, you have Sundays it's.

1062
00:49:21,880 --> 00:49:23,800
Speaker 1: Like the height of your life. You've been striving and

1063
00:49:23,880 --> 00:49:26,600
Speaker 1: working for this all your life. You get there, you're plateau.

1064
00:49:27,040 --> 00:49:30,759
Speaker 5: Now what There's nothing else out there that can really

1065
00:49:31,200 --> 00:49:34,280
Speaker 5: give you that feeling and that sensation that playing on Sundays.

1066
00:49:34,400 --> 00:49:37,960
Speaker 5: So I think people struggle when you don't find something

1067
00:49:38,000 --> 00:49:40,520
Speaker 5: that gives you that same sensation, that same feeling that's

1068
00:49:40,560 --> 00:49:41,360
Speaker 5: saying something.

1069
00:49:41,160 --> 00:49:41,560
Speaker 1: To work for.

1070
00:49:42,280 --> 00:49:45,960
Speaker 5: So another pivotal crossroads in my life was, you know,

1071
00:49:46,239 --> 00:49:49,279
Speaker 5: after football, searching what's next I'm going to do?

1072
00:49:50,560 --> 00:49:52,280
Speaker 1: My wife being rock solid.

1073
00:49:52,920 --> 00:49:56,759
Speaker 5: Having our kids, I immediately was able to regroup, find

1074
00:49:56,800 --> 00:49:58,759
Speaker 5: a new sense of purpose, And now all of a

1075
00:49:58,840 --> 00:50:01,720
Speaker 5: sudden I can go and be successful in other areas

1076
00:50:01,880 --> 00:50:04,439
Speaker 5: of my life because I have purpose. You think people

1077
00:50:04,560 --> 00:50:08,120
Speaker 5: lose purpose. Now some people have kids when they're in

1078
00:50:08,200 --> 00:50:10,440
Speaker 5: the league. Yeah, by the time you're the league, they

1079
00:50:10,440 --> 00:50:14,160
Speaker 5: had grown. So the purpose of raising them up it

1080
00:50:14,320 --> 00:50:17,040
Speaker 5: left you. Right now, you have to find something else.

1081
00:50:17,080 --> 00:50:20,040
Speaker 5: You may be even an empty nestler, depending on how

1082
00:50:20,120 --> 00:50:21,880
Speaker 5: young you were when you had the kids. So for me,

1083
00:50:22,960 --> 00:50:25,480
Speaker 5: my kids are seven, five and four, I'm in the trenches,

1084
00:50:25,800 --> 00:50:29,520
Speaker 5: looks on the ground in the field, right, this ain't

1085
00:50:29,560 --> 00:50:29,840
Speaker 5: so this.

1086
00:50:29,960 --> 00:50:31,839
Speaker 2: Is my purpose where you know, I don't know how

1087
00:50:32,200 --> 00:50:34,600
Speaker 2: your kids seventeen, fifteen, fourteen.

1088
00:50:34,239 --> 00:50:37,080
Speaker 5: You're almost empty, your empty nestler.

1089
00:50:37,200 --> 00:50:39,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, so your purpose may be a little different, But

1090
00:50:39,960 --> 00:50:42,560
Speaker 1: for me that was that's why I put those four.

1091
00:50:42,560 --> 00:50:46,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, you're talking about purpose and the excitement that you know,

1092
00:50:46,480 --> 00:50:49,320
Speaker 3: your family, your kids, all those things give you. My

1093
00:50:49,440 --> 00:50:52,120
Speaker 3: big question is what was the biggest thrill for you?

1094
00:50:52,440 --> 00:50:56,040
Speaker 3: Is it returning a punt for a touchdown or a

1095
00:50:56,200 --> 00:50:58,920
Speaker 3: kickoff for a touchdown? I think I know, I think

1096
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Speaker 3: I know too, But to hear what you say. A punt, Okay,

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Speaker 3: that's what. That more difficult, it's harder to do. So

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Speaker 3: I think punks are harder, so harder to catch had return, Yes,

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Speaker 3: because it's more space, it's more space and.

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Speaker 1: You can easier to catch easy return. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: And I think I've heard people say the kickoffs are harder,

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Speaker 3: And you tell me if I'm wrong.

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Speaker 4: Harder to do it?

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Speaker 3: Well, everybody's running at you a lot faster speed, same lane,

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Speaker 3: and you don't.

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Speaker 1: You don't.

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Speaker 3: You can get caught slipping a lot easier on kickoff

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Speaker 3: then you can't on punt.

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Speaker 1: Just think of it like this as a blocker. Think

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Speaker 1: of it like this as a or a cover man

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00:51:39,800 --> 00:51:41,600
Speaker 1: that's think you'll cover, you'll cover. I think of it

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Speaker 1: as a cover guy.

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Speaker 5: Would you rather run sixty yards head start with a

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Speaker 5: guy running reverse trying to catch you running at top speed?

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Speaker 5: Or would you have to first block a guy make

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Speaker 5: sure he doesn't block this kick, and now you have

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Speaker 5: to get out and release everybody and he's in your

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Speaker 5: the whole time. Level, So as a cover man's harder

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00:52:00,719 --> 00:52:04,000
Speaker 5: covering the punt, yeah, right, I just it is, I

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Speaker 5: just I don't know, I just I just think.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm telling you, I tell you what I think.

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Speaker 1: I'm telling you what I know. You know, I'm telling

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Speaker 1: you what I know. E don't take a punt. Watch

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Speaker 1: this the goat. How many kick returns as hester half

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Speaker 1: versus how many punk returns? I don't I know. Okay,

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Speaker 1: you have your answer on what's easier. You will have

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Speaker 1: your answer.

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Speaker 4: I think I think Cribs is the one with the

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Speaker 4: most kick off his hat right, Yeah, but.

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Speaker 1: He coming through like yeah he is. He was big, big, strong,

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Speaker 1: straight speed. So that's gonna work for a kid return

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Speaker 1: a little guy like me.

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Speaker 5: I need space, yes, space, And you get more space

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Speaker 5: returning a punt than you do with a kickoff because.

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Speaker 4: Punt you get here, you take one step to the right.

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00:52:51,760 --> 00:52:53,600
Speaker 4: You got like three people and it's just guy.

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Speaker 5: They fall out of their lanes a lot easier on

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Speaker 5: punts trying to block prevent a block kick.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, some kind of way, they somehow, for whatever reason,

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00:53:02,040 --> 00:53:04,320
Speaker 1: they leave their lanes. They follow color.

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00:53:04,680 --> 00:53:10,080
Speaker 5: Yeah, they do it on punt returns and not kick off.

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Speaker 3: And what following color is for those that don't know,

1143
00:53:12,480 --> 00:53:15,440
Speaker 3: is it means I see my teammates in front of

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00:53:15,520 --> 00:53:18,040
Speaker 3: me in one lane to the right. What I'm supposed

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00:53:18,080 --> 00:53:20,080
Speaker 3: to do is say, because you have lane so you

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00:53:20,200 --> 00:53:24,040
Speaker 3: got one, two, three lanes as you kind of block

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00:53:24,120 --> 00:53:27,000
Speaker 3: and release, one being the widest, three being the most inside.

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Speaker 4: And so once you see.

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Speaker 3: Somebody in lane one because they've already got out in

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00:53:30,760 --> 00:53:32,839
Speaker 3: their release, you should go lane two exactly, and then

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00:53:32,880 --> 00:53:33,719
Speaker 3: you go to lane three.

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Speaker 4: And then all of a sudden, don't want three guys

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Speaker 4: and lane No.

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Speaker 3: One.

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Speaker 4: You don't want that.

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Speaker 3: But all of a sudden, somebody like Dante Hall starts

1157
00:53:39,880 --> 00:53:43,000
Speaker 3: going stretching. You going to the sideline. So guy in

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00:53:43,120 --> 00:53:45,160
Speaker 3: lane three is gonna start to go towards lane two

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00:53:45,200 --> 00:53:47,600
Speaker 3: and one, and then all of a sudden the cutback happens.

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00:53:47,320 --> 00:53:48,680
Speaker 4: Exactly, and now you got a home run.

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Speaker 1: You got a problem. You got a problem is how

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Speaker 1: you get to see that? That is what about? I

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00:53:54,160 --> 00:53:57,840
Speaker 1: think punks. I'm sticking to my guns. I think punts.

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Speaker 1: I've tried to return upun. I thought the poem was hard.

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Speaker 1: I was just like, catch, it's so hard.

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Speaker 4: It's hard to catch, but it was still hard to return.

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Speaker 1: I was just like it was because you're so concerned

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Speaker 1: for catching it. I was just like, yeah, I can't

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00:54:09,320 --> 00:54:10,759
Speaker 1: this decent puturns are hard.

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Speaker 3: I was just at a golf tournament down at the

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00:54:13,360 --> 00:54:16,600
Speaker 3: senior ball Dante. You would appreciate this. And so to

1172
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Speaker 3: get a mulligan on a whole for the whole team,

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Speaker 3: they had to catch you a punt from like fifty

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Speaker 3: yards away.

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Speaker 4: And so watching people on.

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Speaker 3: My team trying to catch a punt, they don't understand

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Speaker 3: the nose of the ball and rotation, roation drops the

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Speaker 3: whole spinning. I don't yeah spiral most people. It came

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00:54:38,200 --> 00:54:40,160
Speaker 3: out of a jugs machine, so at least it was spiraling,

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00:54:40,560 --> 00:54:44,120
Speaker 3: but easy to where you is easy for those that

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00:54:44,239 --> 00:54:46,799
Speaker 3: do not catch punts. Even myself was like, all right,

1182
00:54:46,920 --> 00:54:49,480
Speaker 3: be ready, room, do not embarrass yourself out here because

1183
00:54:49,480 --> 00:54:51,680
Speaker 3: you're the only one with football experience. So I did

1184
00:54:51,800 --> 00:54:55,080
Speaker 3: catch mine, but it is all about the nose and

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00:54:55,160 --> 00:54:58,440
Speaker 3: the tip of the ball. It's I don't different people understand.

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00:54:58,719 --> 00:55:00,799
Speaker 1: Yeah you got a better thousand. That's the thing as

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Speaker 1: a proper returns to bet a thousand. You muff a punt,

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00:55:03,840 --> 00:55:07,400
Speaker 1: that's probably gonna lead to immediate points. Yeah, immediate you

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00:55:07,560 --> 00:55:11,919
Speaker 1: off the team quick? You do that a couple of times? Ye? Look, man,

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Speaker 1: just thank you for coming in.

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Speaker 2: You know, I know you did us a favor and

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00:55:16,280 --> 00:55:18,680
Speaker 2: and you know I know you're on family vacation right now,

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00:55:18,719 --> 00:55:20,200
Speaker 2: but you drove down from Jersey.

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Speaker 1: But hopefully we paid for the parking for you and

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00:55:23,840 --> 00:55:26,560
Speaker 1: a nice ride over. Yeah, pay for the parking. I

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Speaker 1: see what you did. Try to hear me. We paid

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Speaker 1: for well.

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Speaker 4: I know this man, Dante number one. I'm gonna get

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Speaker 4: your number. I want to play some golf.

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Speaker 3: Do it, play some golf, especially as I'll be traveling

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Speaker 3: in my other job. I know you say I'm a

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Speaker 3: little hard on your your alma mater. We expect them

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Speaker 3: all to pick it up a little bit.

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Speaker 1: And now. Yeah, so I think Fisher did a great

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Speaker 1: job hiring office of coordinator.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Patrino, Patrino, We're gonna keep.

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Speaker 1: Him from leaving, you know, keep his nose clean. We

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Speaker 1: might be all right. Keep him off the motorcycles.

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Speaker 3: That's a whole other co But what I do want

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Speaker 3: to do is before we got I want to think

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Speaker 3: all about listeners is always for always tuning in. Give

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00:56:14,719 --> 00:56:16,960
Speaker 3: us a rating of a few five stars, whether you

1213
00:56:17,080 --> 00:56:21,640
Speaker 3: listen on Apple Podcasts or iHeartRadio. Please please tell a

1214
00:56:21,719 --> 00:56:23,400
Speaker 3: friend to tell a friend, and tell a friend, continue

1215
00:56:23,440 --> 00:56:23,840
Speaker 3: to tune in.

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Speaker 4: This is the NFL Player. Second acts.

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Speaker 3: We have more guests like Dante who come on Show It,

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Speaker 3: Show it Real, and man, this is great stories.

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Speaker 1: Man.

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Speaker 3: We're all fans of each other in so different ways

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00:56:37,040 --> 00:56:39,160
Speaker 3: that I don't think you get this in any other

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00:56:39,440 --> 00:56:42,960
Speaker 3: segment or system or this podcast, where it's like, man,

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00:56:43,360 --> 00:56:45,279
Speaker 3: I'm such a fan of yours. Then you come in

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Speaker 3: like dude that I'm coming off of vacation.

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Speaker 4: Because I.

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Speaker 1: Was willing to drive. I respect what you guys.

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Speaker 4: Thank you so much.

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Speaker 1: Get away from the family for a little bit. Helps

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Speaker 1: I was.

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Speaker 4: Still on record.

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Speaker 1: We can edit that out. We can edit that out,

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Speaker 1: real talk. I can respect for her, both of you.

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Speaker 4: Thank you, man, I appreciate We appreciate that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm Peanut, just the pastor. That's the X factor.

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Speaker 1: We out