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Speaker 1: This is the Dallascowboys dot Com Draft Show, your war

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Speaker 1: room for incenter news and draft analysis from deep within

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Speaker 1: the confines of Cowboys Headquarters at the Star in Frisco.

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Speaker 2: Dallas Cowboys Tyler and now.

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Speaker 1: Your host, Kyle Yeomans.

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Speaker 3: Today is Wednesday, May third, and we are officially a

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Speaker 3: week after the twenty twenty three NFL Draft in Kansas City.

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Speaker 3: Welcome into the Draft Show as we wrap things up

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Speaker 3: in Tyabo on the draft class in twenty twenty three.

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Speaker 3: We have got Brian Prades, Sach Walchuck Ayisha Morrison. I'm

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Speaker 3: Kyle Yeomans, Chris Beam in the back. Everybody, have you

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Speaker 3: recovered yet from draft weekend? Yes?

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Speaker 2: Yes you have? Yes, that's good.

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Speaker 4: Yes.

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Speaker 2: When did it hit that you recovered, like like ten

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Speaker 2: minutes ago?

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Speaker 5: Yesterday?

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Speaker 2: Yesterday?

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Speaker 5: It was the first yesterday for me when I was

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Speaker 5: like freedom. I was like, oh my god.

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Speaker 4: Yes, Like when I when I looked and I started

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Speaker 4: prepping for today and I had to look at like

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Speaker 4: eight players just to review them and stuff and then

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Speaker 4: start touching on the undrafted free agents and it wasn't

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Speaker 4: like twenty players.

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Speaker 5: It hit me that it was over, y'all, Like y'all know.

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Speaker 5: This is my first one.

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Speaker 4: So this is you know, just getting the hang of

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Speaker 4: the feel of draft. And once it starts, there's no

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Speaker 4: stopping no, so you know, you know how much more

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Speaker 4: we have to be locked into this because we're providing information.

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Speaker 4: It is a change of pace mentally to kind of

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Speaker 4: come down.

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Speaker 5: So I am yesterday was I.

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Speaker 4: Was like, oh, this isn't okay, I don't It's not

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Speaker 4: that bad.

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Speaker 6: It's a little I was a little sad, you know

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Speaker 6: now that it just comes crashing down, It's like all

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Speaker 6: of a sudden boom, it's over. We're grinding, we're watching

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Speaker 6: three to five players a night, and then all of

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Speaker 6: a sudden, Monday rolls around.

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Speaker 2: Brian, I don't.

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Speaker 7: I don't have anybody to go home and watch. This

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Speaker 7: is kind of a weird feeling.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's there is a draft next year.

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Speaker 8: Waltuck start out here.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, that'd be you know today, Caleb Williams tonight.

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Speaker 8: You know it's funny that you say that, and uh,

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Speaker 8: because I was talking with Dane Brugler and I go, uh,

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Speaker 8: he was for just kind of talking about his mock

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Speaker 8: draft and stuff like that, and he got, go, when

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Speaker 8: do you start back up again. He goes June first,

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Speaker 8: so he starts back up. He takes really the month

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Speaker 8: of May off, and then starts back up the whole

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Speaker 8: process all over again on June first. So but he

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Speaker 8: does that. That's that's what he does for a living.

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Speaker 8: That's what you have to do. But yeah, it's a

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Speaker 8: little bit like the NFL season, and especially when you

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Speaker 8: get into the playoffs in the NFL season and then

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Speaker 8: all of a sudden it's you're playing, you lose the game,

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Speaker 8: and then all of a sudden it's Green Trash back day. Yeah,

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Speaker 8: you know, you're in the locker room cleaning out all

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Speaker 8: your stuff and you're kind of like going, okay, But

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Speaker 8: that's a great thing about it is like like Beamer says,

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Speaker 8: they'll let you do it again next year, and so

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Speaker 8: there'll be a whole new list of players. The exciting

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Speaker 8: thing for me always is watching the NFL season and

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Speaker 8: seeing the guys that we watched and talked about have

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Speaker 8: success or not have success. And it's funny how the

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Speaker 8: fans will remind you of that. You know, oh, hey,

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Speaker 8: that Eric Scott. You're right about Eric Scott. I see

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Speaker 8: what you see it, you know, And so you're like, oh, okay,

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Speaker 8: that worked out, and then when if Mozzie Smith doesn't

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Speaker 8: do anything, then they remind you that Mazzie Smith did.

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Speaker 8: I think it's a kind of an accountability, kind of

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Speaker 8: accountability thing for sure.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, any of your top one hundred, Oh sure, much

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Speaker 3: because we talked about the majority of the top one hundred. Now,

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Speaker 3: of course we can't get to every prospect that's ever

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Speaker 3: been picked, but I feel pretty good about the draft class.

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Speaker 2: And we hit a lot of these guys.

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Speaker 3: Mazzie Smith first round, second round, Luke Schoonmaker, demarve On

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Speaker 3: Over shown in the third round, Billy Ami Fojoko Junior,

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Speaker 3: and the fourth Awesome Richard which I just a better

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Speaker 8: What a moment.

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Speaker 3: I still can't get over that moment. And then Jalen

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Speaker 3: Brooks in the seventh round. So there's your there's your

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Speaker 8: What you got?

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Speaker 4: No, it's just the Eric Scott pick is so interesting,

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Speaker 4: like and they also you know, obviously they went up

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Speaker 4: him this whole time when we were going through the process,

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Speaker 4: some of the guys I was looking at, I kept

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Speaker 4: putting like CJ. Goodwin replacement next to them, this guy

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Speaker 4: might be it, this guy might be the gun, this

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Speaker 4: guy might be your ace moving forward like looking at

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Speaker 4: him play. But I just he was the most interesting

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Speaker 4: pick at all of them to me, even Jalen Brooks, like,

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Speaker 4: I was just like, dang, they went up to get

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Speaker 5: They must feel sure about what he could be fifteen.

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Speaker 3: I mean they took what was a fifth compic next

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Speaker 3: year is what it's gonna end up, basically, Yeah, and

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Speaker 3: then you turn around and you go and get him

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Speaker 3: at the top of the sixth around. They had their

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Speaker 3: eyes on him from the get go, Brian, I mean

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Speaker 3: it was very early on. We heard his name of

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Speaker 3: then of course when they went up and got him,

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Speaker 3: it was already kind of on the radar. Why does

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Speaker 3: he fit the mold for Will McLay in this team.

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Speaker 8: He's six' one, he's two oh four. He could play zone,

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Speaker 8: he could play you know, he plays a lot of zone.

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Speaker 8: You know, he plays the field corner. When you play

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Speaker 8: the field corner. That tells me you cover ground, and

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Speaker 8: when you cover ground, that means you could play outside

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Speaker 8: where you potentially could play in the slot. He's super competitive,

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Speaker 8: he likes to tackle, he's around the ball, he's a finisher.

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Speaker 8: You know, that was one of those ones that I

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Speaker 8: appreciate that I got late that somebody said, oh, wait,

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Speaker 8: because that seems to be where Dallas and that those

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Speaker 8: that guy that we've been talking about all year, or

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Speaker 8: But to me, you're talking about a super super competitive

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Speaker 8: that's that's a that's a that's something that especially late

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Speaker 8: a hell of a job evaluating these players. But this

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Speaker 8: figure it out that man, we can't pass on a

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Speaker 6: Fans kind of freaked out, like, oh he only ran

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Speaker 6: a four to seven to one with the forty, that's

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Speaker 6: not accurate. You know, he was dealing with an injury

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Speaker 6: at the time he reran it. We've heard reports on

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Speaker 6: he ran a much better forty time. And all you

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Speaker 6: watch him, the explosiveness that he plays with, you're absolutely right, right,

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Speaker 6: the word competitive is what stands out with this guy

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Speaker 6: because it's at all avenues at the corner spot, right,

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Speaker 6: there's so many corners that we watched in this class.

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Speaker 6: You can tell the ones that want no business to

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Speaker 6: you know, throwing their body around. This guy diagnoses a

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Speaker 6: will thump you. But I love the way he competes

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Speaker 6: and plays the ball in the air. You know, some

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Speaker 6: jump right. He's a guy that can play the ball.

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Speaker 6: He's not necessarily playing the receiver all the time. He's

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Speaker 6: always making it a contested, challenged catch when the ball's

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Speaker 6: think they might have found a steal here late the draft.

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Speaker 8: If you talk to them, they'll tell you this is

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Speaker 8: their Doran Bland. Yep, this is That's what they'll tell you.

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Speaker 8: They will say they go because afterwards, I had a

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Speaker 8: to say congratulations, and they said that Eric Scott, don't

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Speaker 8: Doran Bland. And we all saw what Deron Bland did

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Speaker 4: So important, Like it's so crazy because I don't I

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Speaker 5: I try not to do that so frequently, just because

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Speaker 4: Having to do that like that anyway half the time.

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Speaker 4: But I will say that in this NFL and just

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Speaker 4: kind of how things are now, you see so many

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Speaker 5: I mean, the Cowboys have a couple of guys that

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Speaker 5: can do that. Now, hello, Douce.

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Speaker 4: Fine, So you need corners to come up that are

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Speaker 4: that aren't afraid to come up to tackle, to kind

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Speaker 4: of set the tone and make teams be like, Okay,

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Speaker 4: well maybe we shouldn't be doing that, maybe we can't

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Speaker 4: swing outside.

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Speaker 5: You need linebackers, corners.

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Speaker 4: Guys, safeties, whoever to be able to come run to

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Speaker 4: the ball and make that difference in taking that part

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Speaker 5: Philly does very heavily.

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Speaker 4: You can tell in this draft also too, like they're

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Speaker 4: preparing for what this division is becoming. Because I know

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Speaker 4: we're going to get into that, but this division seems

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Speaker 4: like they're catching up to the competition, you know, as

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Speaker 4: far as the Giants, the Commanders and obviously the Eagles

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Speaker 3: Yeah, what were some of the other surprises that kind

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Speaker 3: of caught you guys off guard? Because you mentioned Eric Scott,

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Speaker 3: don't be surprised by this guy. Who were some of

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Speaker 3: the other draftable names that the Cowboys ended up with,

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Speaker 3: And you could even throw undrafted free agents in there

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Speaker 2: But did anybody kind of stand out to you and

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Speaker 8: I think after the Scott selection was made, or just

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Speaker 8: in general, just in Joel, I think the awesome Richard's

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Speaker 8: me that was one of those that when the Cowboys

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Speaker 5: So yeah, is it the feat it's it.

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Speaker 3: He has a basketball background, so you talk about footwork,

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Speaker 8: Let's let's get him up there a little bit if

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Speaker 8: The uh you know when you deal with that, Kyle

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Speaker 7: You can strike matches.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, with awesome, Like his core is exactly the core

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Speaker 5: You said, upside is that is that? Is that a

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Speaker 4: Some of these players, just like last year, are raw,

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Speaker 8: But I feel like it's more on the defensive side

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Speaker 8: end to play three technique, count me in. They see

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Speaker 8: you know, and let him run to the football, playhim

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Speaker 8: you know I can see that, ad dan Quinn sign

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Speaker 3: He said that many many times on this show, and

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Speaker 3: Welcome back to the Draft Show as we wrap up

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Speaker 3: the twenty twenty three draft class with Brian brought us,

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Speaker 3: Ach Walchuck Aysham Morrison. I'm Kyle Yeomans Chris Beam in

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Speaker 3: the back and we will have an opportunity to do

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Speaker 3: Twitter on the twenty. I forgot to send out the

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna send that out right now. So we're gonna

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Speaker 3: get the Twitter questions on the back half. But right now,

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Speaker 3: I've got some superlatives I have. I want you to

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Speaker 3: get me one answer. Some are about the Dallas draft class.

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Speaker 3: Some are about the NFC East Draft class. But I'll

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Speaker 3: start with the Dallas draft class. Brian best value for

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Speaker 3: over the weekend, best value pick between the eight different

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Speaker 3: players that they added.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, I think to me it was Duce fawn Is

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Speaker 8: where it was because of where he was selected. I

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Speaker 8: felt like though that Dallas got him at two twelve.

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Speaker 8: I felt like he was a much better player than that,

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Speaker 8: you know, to me, he was kind of in that

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Speaker 8: group of running backs that I was. I was just

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Speaker 8: greating the player for who he was. I didn't look

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Speaker 8: at the five to five part of it. I said,

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Speaker 8: give me the guy that's the most explosive, Give me

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Speaker 8: the guy that doesn't fumble the ball. Give me the

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Speaker 8: guy that catches the ball. Well, give me the guy

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Speaker 8: that makes other people miss Give me the guy that

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Speaker 8: defensive coordinators are like sleep not sleeping at night. I

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Speaker 8: think duce Vaughn was an excellent pick for the Cowboys

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Speaker 8: in that regard. When you talk about the value of

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Speaker 8: where he was taken to where I'm sure a lot

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Speaker 8: of people.

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Speaker 2: Had on their boards, where'd you have them.

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Speaker 8: I had him at he went at two twelve.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's huge.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, so I mean that that to me. I think

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Speaker 8: they went a little early. I know you just said

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Speaker 8: one guy. I think they went a little They went

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Speaker 8: a little early on Schoonmaker. But we've talked about this.

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Speaker 8: You had to go a little early on some of

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Speaker 8: these guys. It wasn't coming back around to you. You know,

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Speaker 8: if you think that Schoonmaker was going to be there

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Speaker 8: in the third round, I don't think that was going

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Speaker 8: to happen at all.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I'm with you, because I had Schoonmaker and over

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Speaker 6: shown both probably around later than when the Cowboys got them.

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Speaker 6: But to your point, when you're picking at the back

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Speaker 6: half of the round, you've got to go ahead and

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Speaker 6: just pull the trigger on that one. But to me,

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Speaker 6: duce Vaughn was a guy that I had going in

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Speaker 6: the fifth You end up getting him in the sixth

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Speaker 6: pick thirty five in the sixth round. To me, it

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Speaker 6: was exceptional value. And we were talking about it during

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Speaker 6: the draft. We're going through all the running backs that

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Speaker 6: are still available. This guy's red flag for character issues,

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Speaker 6: this guy's red flag from medicals. It was clear that

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Speaker 6: duce Vaughn was the best available back there. And when

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Speaker 6: you talk about what he's able to provide not only

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Speaker 6: just as a weapon as a running back out of

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Speaker 6: the backfield, but as a receiver special teams in the

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Speaker 6: return game, this is a guy that can come in

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Speaker 6: and help you immediately.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I had a fourth round grade on Ducebine m

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Speaker 4: hm because I just I feel like what he can do,

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Speaker 4: especially as a receiver, Like I was watching him just

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Speaker 4: run jerk routes yesterday and I was like, this man

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Speaker 4: is disrespectful, Like.

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Speaker 5: The route running is their division is so clean.

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Speaker 4: So I agree with you on that being the best

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Speaker 4: value of I will say that Vlami is itko. I

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Speaker 4: had a third round grade on him, Wow, just because

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Speaker 4: I felt like the like the motor is so nasty

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Speaker 4: and insane.

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Speaker 5: The effort from the player is something that you.

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Speaker 4: Don't see I don't think you see normally, especially from

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Speaker 4: a DT, especially from a DT, just to have that

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Speaker 4: constant motor to go. But what the things that he

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Speaker 4: did at end also to I know, we're cool with

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Speaker 4: him being a three tech.

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Speaker 5: But babe, it's not too bad some of the stuff

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Speaker 5: he was doing at end.

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Speaker 7: He was probably my favorite pick.

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Speaker 8: See there was people, yeah outside of this, Yeah, wow,

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Speaker 8: that's cool to hear. There was people that kind of

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Speaker 8: were trying to get me to jump on the Is

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Speaker 8: this tyrone Crawford? Is this tyrone Crawford the guy that

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Speaker 8: could play edge and the guy that could play three.

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Speaker 8: I think Fojoko is a I think he has better movement.

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Speaker 8: I think he's not as stiff.

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Speaker 7: I can see that.

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Speaker 8: I think that, Yeah, flexibility Crawford is. I think Crawford man,

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Speaker 8: he's super, super tough, there's no question, but stronger, much stronger.

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Speaker 8: But the thing with Fojoko to me is the bend

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Speaker 8: and the flexibility and the ability to attack the gap

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Speaker 8: and goes and kind of chase the play down. I

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Speaker 8: think that's where I think that's where he's completely different

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Speaker 8: than what you got from from what you got from

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Speaker 8: Tyrone Crawford.

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Speaker 2: What did you think when you went and looked at him,

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Speaker 2: because I mean we were excited.

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Speaker 8: No, no, she was right about him. And I know,

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Speaker 8: I know Zach had you know, you guys picked me

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Speaker 8: up on that, and I appreciate you doing that when

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Speaker 8: you know she's right about the fact that you know,

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Speaker 8: with the motor, the effort, the strength that he plays,

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Speaker 8: he's not a throwaway in He's not a throwaway. And

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Speaker 8: I know they're talking about, you know, Shreek Floyd was

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Speaker 8: talking about nice for him to come in and kind

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Speaker 8: of open some things up, open our eyes to some things.

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Speaker 8: But the fact that this kid could play some three,

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Speaker 8: I totally understand what they're doing there. He's got that

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Speaker 8: kind of ability.

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Speaker 5: And it's the hands.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, one of my favorite things about Keanu

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Speaker 4: Bitten was how violent his hands were coming off the ball,

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Speaker 4: and Junior be.

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Speaker 5: Like, in my mind, I'd be like, get off me,

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Speaker 5: get off me. In my mind when I see his

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Speaker 5: hands because it looks like I got that chop working. Yes,

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Speaker 5: because yes, absolutely, there's a lot to work with with

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Speaker 5: how he counters and stuff.

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Speaker 4: I think the player has so much upside and cowboys

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Speaker 4: clearly are like we're tired of getting ran on.

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Speaker 7: Yes, yeah, they're tired well, and he can help with that.

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Speaker 6: But it's the motor, the relentless pursuit. Like for me,

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Speaker 6: that's what makes him stand out. There's certain things you

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Speaker 6: can't really teach in the want to with junior Fojoko

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Speaker 6: is second. I mean it might be he might have

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Speaker 6: had one of the highest motors of any end period

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Speaker 6: in the entire draft. I mean he is just he's

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Speaker 6: getting knocked around and the next thing you know, he's

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Speaker 6: trailing the playback side, he's chasing it down.

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Speaker 7: He's just a fun study to watch him play. He's relentless.

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Speaker 3: That's the one word I had on here was relentless. Now,

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Speaker 3: my favorite value pick was was awesome Richards. I had

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Speaker 3: him at one O six on my board going into

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Speaker 3: the draft. He was my first fourth round grade. So

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Speaker 3: the fact you got him at one sixty nine steel

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Speaker 3: in the fifth round, I love it. And the upsides there,

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Speaker 3: like we talked about in the last segment, all right,

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Speaker 3: most likely to switch positions Zach wohlschuff out of this

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Speaker 3: draft class.

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Speaker 2: Because I mean we just talked about Fujoko.

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Speaker 7: He could flip, but there.

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Speaker 2: Was a number of guys in this class that could

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Speaker 2: flip positions.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I don't think Overshown is not going to play linebacker.

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Speaker 6: But he's the one that stands out to me as

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Speaker 6: a guy that's just got the most positioned flex of

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Speaker 6: the entire draft. He's played safety, linebacker, will linebackers. Will

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Speaker 6: McLay told us yesterday I asked him the vision for

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Speaker 6: Overshown and he said, will linebacker running Chase. But you

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Speaker 6: know the fact that we had heard some about him

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Speaker 6: on the edge, which you can see. I mean, he

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Speaker 6: has a knack for timing blitzes and going in and

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Speaker 6: get the quarterback when you watch him at Texas. And

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Speaker 6: then he told us that in our call with him, yep,

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Speaker 6: And he said that's something he talked to dan Quinn about.

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Speaker 6: That's something they're excited about. I think Overshow's a guy

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Speaker 6: that they can move around a lot as a chess

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Speaker 6: piece for dan Quinn. He's to me kind of the

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Speaker 6: leader when it comes to maybe position flags and moving

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Speaker 6: him around until they find a spot that he really

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Speaker 6: excels at.

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Speaker 5: Look, you took my guy. He took my guy.

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Speaker 4: He's the only gentleman that I think is someone that

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Speaker 4: they feel like they maybe can move around out of

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Speaker 4: the class. Everyone else seems like where they are is

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Speaker 4: where they're going to be. Now we talked about Awesome,

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Speaker 4: who do y' all think that he could be a card?

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Speaker 8: I'd keep him at tackle. I think first I would

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Speaker 8: try and get him comfortable playing tackle. But we saw

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Speaker 8: last year though the Cowboys' ability to take Tyler Smith

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Speaker 8: and put in Tyler Smith's background. You know, the game's

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Speaker 8: nothing against Tulsa, but you know, I mean he you know,

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Speaker 8: limited some of the limit competition there. But to me,

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Speaker 8: when you when you start talking about Richard's I would

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Speaker 8: let him play tackle first, get him comfortable, and then

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Speaker 8: feed him a little bit of it during practice.

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Speaker 5: Well it sounded like that's what they were.

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Speaker 8: I think that. I think that I think that's the plant. Yeah,

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Speaker 8: but Tyler did a great job of playing both. I mean,

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Speaker 8: they they were like in the you know, he was

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Speaker 8: playing tackle, he was playing but the majority of the

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Speaker 8: I'm going to take that back, the majority of his

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Speaker 8: snaps in Oxnard were at guard. Yeah, right, yes, so,

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Speaker 8: and then all of a sudden they plug they play

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Speaker 8: him out at left tackle, and man, I think that's

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Speaker 8: a spot. Me personally, I think I think that's a spot.

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Speaker 8: But they they obviously feel good about the situation at

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Speaker 8: guard better than I think a lot of us in

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Speaker 8: the media do agree.

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Speaker 2: Well, Well, now then like that, I guess, do you

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Speaker 2: think he can move inside?

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Speaker 5: I agree that.

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Speaker 4: I feel like, especially when you talk about the length

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Speaker 4: and just kind of how he plays, I feel like

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Speaker 4: he has he understands how to play tackle. Yeah, he

657
00:29:57,880 --> 00:30:00,920
Speaker 4: understands how to play tackle. He understands. It's from what

658
00:30:01,040 --> 00:30:04,520
Speaker 4: I saw on film. So I wouldn't jump to guard

659
00:30:04,640 --> 00:30:06,680
Speaker 4: right away, even though I.

660
00:30:06,720 --> 00:30:09,800
Speaker 5: Feel like, am I tripping? What we feel like about

661
00:30:09,880 --> 00:30:12,160
Speaker 5: guard is not what they feel like about guard or

662
00:30:12,200 --> 00:30:12,640
Speaker 5: any trip.

663
00:30:12,880 --> 00:30:16,360
Speaker 8: You're spot on well, the thing that they think about guard,

664
00:30:16,640 --> 00:30:19,400
Speaker 8: and I forget which one of the scouts was talking

665
00:30:19,440 --> 00:30:21,600
Speaker 8: about it. It might have been Mitchell Point was talking

666
00:30:21,640 --> 00:30:25,000
Speaker 8: about the front of the pocket. And this is something

667
00:30:25,080 --> 00:30:27,120
Speaker 8: that goes back to when Jerry Jones, when I used

668
00:30:27,120 --> 00:30:29,280
Speaker 8: to work in the scouting department, Jerry Jones. I don't

669
00:30:29,280 --> 00:30:31,760
Speaker 8: know if he got this from Parcels or Al Davis

670
00:30:31,960 --> 00:30:35,680
Speaker 8: or somebody, maybe Bill Belichick, but about the front of

671
00:30:35,720 --> 00:30:38,240
Speaker 8: the pocket and how, and it goes back to even

672
00:30:38,320 --> 00:30:41,480
Speaker 8: Tony Romo. You have to have the abilities of quarterback

673
00:30:41,560 --> 00:30:44,600
Speaker 8: to step up. Quarterbacks, if they could step up, they

674
00:30:44,680 --> 00:30:47,440
Speaker 8: make the majority of the throws. They could handle stuff

675
00:30:47,520 --> 00:30:50,400
Speaker 8: off the edge. It's the stuff in their face. The

676
00:30:50,480 --> 00:30:53,440
Speaker 8: great Tom Brady get his eye level down. Now you

677
00:30:53,520 --> 00:30:56,320
Speaker 8: get his eye level down, he's not looking downfield. You

678
00:30:56,400 --> 00:30:58,320
Speaker 8: could sack him. You could throw him off his game.

679
00:30:58,880 --> 00:31:03,240
Speaker 8: Most quarterbacks can handle inside pressure, so to combat that,

680
00:31:03,440 --> 00:31:06,200
Speaker 8: you start to talk about and the Cowboys did this forever.

681
00:31:06,760 --> 00:31:11,200
Speaker 8: Ron Leary, you know, big powerful guy, Travis Frederick, you know,

682
00:31:11,360 --> 00:31:13,960
Speaker 8: look at look at him. You know, Zach Martin. They

683
00:31:14,480 --> 00:31:17,440
Speaker 8: they've committed to try and and you know they drafted

684
00:31:17,520 --> 00:31:20,640
Speaker 8: Lyle Collins. Lyle Collins started off, as you know, as

685
00:31:20,680 --> 00:31:22,960
Speaker 8: a as a guard and then moved to tackle. Larry

686
00:31:23,080 --> 00:31:28,360
Speaker 8: Allen played tackle to guard. Yeah, they've always thought about

687
00:31:28,520 --> 00:31:31,320
Speaker 8: keeping the front of that pocket firm, and that that

688
00:31:31,440 --> 00:31:35,640
Speaker 8: goes back with something that Jerry Jones believes. So I

689
00:31:35,720 --> 00:31:38,720
Speaker 8: don't know if it's different if there's any changes. I

690
00:31:38,800 --> 00:31:41,440
Speaker 8: heard of Scouts mentioned that the other day, so I

691
00:31:41,520 --> 00:31:44,080
Speaker 8: think somebody in the organization. It might be the general

692
00:31:44,120 --> 00:31:47,760
Speaker 8: managers like, listen, we need guards and sinners that aren't

693
00:31:47,760 --> 00:31:49,840
Speaker 8: going to get driven back. That's the problem that they

694
00:31:49,920 --> 00:31:53,080
Speaker 8: had with That's the problem they had with Connor Williams. Right,

695
00:31:53,400 --> 00:31:55,600
Speaker 8: you know, Connor Williams were watching Connor and that's the

696
00:31:55,720 --> 00:31:59,400
Speaker 8: problem I would have if you said, oh, Terrence Steele

697
00:31:59,520 --> 00:32:02,200
Speaker 8: is going to play left guard. Now, Terreed Steele is

698
00:32:02,240 --> 00:32:05,640
Speaker 8: an excellent run blocker. He's a he's a he's an

699
00:32:06,280 --> 00:32:10,720
Speaker 8: exceptional run blocker. As a pass blocker, he's a little white,

700
00:32:11,320 --> 00:32:13,160
Speaker 8: he's a little light, and so I don't know if

701
00:32:13,200 --> 00:32:14,920
Speaker 8: i'd want to plug him in a guy that was

702
00:32:14,960 --> 00:32:17,120
Speaker 8: a little light into that spot. We saw what Connor

703
00:32:17,120 --> 00:32:18,719
Speaker 8: WIBs would. It happened with Connor Williams.

704
00:32:19,240 --> 00:32:22,040
Speaker 5: So with pass pro I'm out of curiosity.

705
00:32:22,120 --> 00:32:24,240
Speaker 4: Guys like listening to some of the scouts and even

706
00:32:24,280 --> 00:32:27,440
Speaker 4: listening to Will McClay and just what he said about

707
00:32:27,560 --> 00:32:31,760
Speaker 4: awesome is are they trying to emphasize past block.

708
00:32:31,880 --> 00:32:34,440
Speaker 6: Well you go back to yeah, it seems that way

709
00:32:34,480 --> 00:32:37,360
Speaker 6: because even going into the Tampa Bay game in the playoffs, right,

710
00:32:37,440 --> 00:32:40,240
Speaker 6: they rearranged the offensive line and it's what they we

711
00:32:40,400 --> 00:32:43,360
Speaker 6: heard what they felt was their best pass blocking five.

712
00:32:44,000 --> 00:32:46,719
Speaker 6: And I will say with awesome, I think his strength

713
00:32:46,920 --> 00:32:49,440
Speaker 6: is pass protection, Yeah, compared to run blockers.

714
00:32:49,480 --> 00:32:50,840
Speaker 5: Correct, exactly, That's what I was.

715
00:32:51,120 --> 00:32:53,080
Speaker 8: He stays on his feet as a run blocker. You

716
00:32:53,120 --> 00:32:55,040
Speaker 8: don't see him like I used to talk about, he's

717
00:32:55,080 --> 00:32:57,680
Speaker 8: not on the ground. No, but but it's yeah, it's

718
00:32:57,880 --> 00:32:58,440
Speaker 8: his strength.

719
00:32:58,480 --> 00:33:02,800
Speaker 5: Caroline just threw the ball exactly with schoon.

720
00:33:04,080 --> 00:33:08,000
Speaker 4: Just I think Schoolmaker fits what Mike McCarthy and those

721
00:33:08,080 --> 00:33:11,080
Speaker 4: guys want to do as a running offense. And then

722
00:33:11,120 --> 00:33:14,040
Speaker 4: also we have even got to Lipkey and them adding him,

723
00:33:15,080 --> 00:33:17,880
Speaker 4: I wanted to ask, like, do they maybe look at

724
00:33:17,920 --> 00:33:21,640
Speaker 4: Schoonmaker as with his block and ability, is he going

725
00:33:21,720 --> 00:33:23,600
Speaker 4: to be an extra lineman sometimes.

726
00:33:23,320 --> 00:33:25,720
Speaker 6: Yeah, when they go with the heavy personnel, certainly. I

727
00:33:25,760 --> 00:33:27,040
Speaker 6: mean he's going to be the in line guy. Brian,

728
00:33:27,120 --> 00:33:30,320
Speaker 6: we were talking about this yesterday. If you go twelve personnel,

729
00:33:30,360 --> 00:33:32,360
Speaker 6: you got two tight ends on the field. He's the

730
00:33:32,400 --> 00:33:34,320
Speaker 6: guy you're going to want to keep in line and block.

731
00:33:34,400 --> 00:33:38,000
Speaker 4: Not their question, right, And I think that's important too.

732
00:33:38,240 --> 00:33:41,160
Speaker 5: When I was trying to digest the draft and understand it.

733
00:33:42,240 --> 00:33:45,120
Speaker 4: Looking at Schoonmaker as an individual isn't fair to him.

734
00:33:45,240 --> 00:33:47,160
Speaker 4: I think you have to look at the whole tight

735
00:33:47,280 --> 00:33:50,080
Speaker 4: end room and what it is. He even mentioned uh

736
00:33:50,880 --> 00:33:54,200
Speaker 4: Patrick Patrick Nocy Walker. He posted his little interview that

737
00:33:54,280 --> 00:33:55,960
Speaker 4: he saw he did with him at the Combine and

738
00:33:56,040 --> 00:33:58,240
Speaker 4: he talked about Sean mchun being one of his best

739
00:33:58,280 --> 00:34:01,160
Speaker 4: friends and being the guy who really showed him what

740
00:34:01,280 --> 00:34:03,720
Speaker 4: he knew when Sean mchuwn came in, he was no,

741
00:34:03,880 --> 00:34:06,520
Speaker 4: I knew Sean mckuwen because he put Chase Chase is it?

742
00:34:06,640 --> 00:34:09,480
Speaker 4: Is it Chase Chase Young in a seat belt. And

743
00:34:09,640 --> 00:34:12,520
Speaker 4: so the blocking ability for Michigan, as you mentioned as

744
00:34:12,600 --> 00:34:15,600
Speaker 4: something that's important listening to Mike McCarthy and those guys

745
00:34:15,719 --> 00:34:17,439
Speaker 4: like Schoolmaker.

746
00:34:16,920 --> 00:34:19,200
Speaker 5: Can block all over the line, he can play.

747
00:34:19,320 --> 00:34:22,759
Speaker 4: It sounds like he was taking also because they he

748
00:34:22,880 --> 00:34:25,000
Speaker 4: played in a system where he was used. They did

749
00:34:25,040 --> 00:34:27,719
Speaker 4: a pro level they did pro level stuff, they ran

750
00:34:27,800 --> 00:34:31,239
Speaker 4: pro level blocking concepts, that type of stuff. So he's

751
00:34:31,280 --> 00:34:32,880
Speaker 4: more of a plug and play player. But I just

752
00:34:33,480 --> 00:34:36,320
Speaker 4: I really was looking at Schoolmaker like, Okay, so what

753
00:34:36,480 --> 00:34:39,120
Speaker 4: is Mike McCarthy, what's Mike McCarthy trying to do with

754
00:34:39,200 --> 00:34:42,160
Speaker 4: this offense because he feels like an important piece to

755
00:34:42,320 --> 00:34:43,839
Speaker 4: kind of balance out the tight end room.

756
00:34:43,960 --> 00:34:47,160
Speaker 8: It's funny you say that because talking about Schoonmaker and

757
00:34:47,320 --> 00:34:50,440
Speaker 8: some scouts will say Schoonmaker might be overrated as a

758
00:34:50,480 --> 00:34:52,800
Speaker 8: blocker and underrated as a receiver.

759
00:34:52,920 --> 00:34:53,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, I can see that.

760
00:34:53,719 --> 00:34:56,920
Speaker 8: Yeah that you know, but you do watch Blake Korm

761
00:34:57,000 --> 00:34:59,560
Speaker 8: and others run the ball on you know, Big New,

762
00:35:00,160 --> 00:35:03,120
Speaker 8: you know football on Fox, you know whatever that Iowa

763
00:35:03,200 --> 00:35:06,359
Speaker 8: and the Michigan it's usually the snow's flying and he's

764
00:35:06,520 --> 00:35:07,560
Speaker 8: at the point of attack.

765
00:35:07,680 --> 00:35:08,719
Speaker 7: He's leading the way off the end.

766
00:35:08,760 --> 00:35:09,520
Speaker 8: Well, that's what I'm saying.

767
00:35:09,640 --> 00:35:09,920
Speaker 13: He is.

768
00:35:10,160 --> 00:35:13,640
Speaker 8: He's leading the edge. They move him. They always put

769
00:35:13,719 --> 00:35:16,040
Speaker 8: him at the point of attack. They don't hide him

770
00:35:16,080 --> 00:35:18,680
Speaker 8: on the backside. They don't say, hey, listen, you're a

771
00:35:18,760 --> 00:35:21,880
Speaker 8: backside guy. It's like Michigan's kind of telling you you

772
00:35:22,040 --> 00:35:24,879
Speaker 8: follow eighty six, you're going to the ball. Yep, Number

773
00:35:24,920 --> 00:35:27,719
Speaker 8: two is going to run that ball behind eighty six.

774
00:35:28,320 --> 00:35:31,480
Speaker 8: You know. That's kind of how Michigan works. And they're

775
00:35:31,560 --> 00:35:34,040
Speaker 8: not bashful about it. They're not trying to hide. It's

776
00:35:34,200 --> 00:35:36,920
Speaker 8: like we have a tied end that can block at

777
00:35:36,960 --> 00:35:39,160
Speaker 8: the point of attack, and I think that's what the Cowboys.

778
00:35:39,520 --> 00:35:40,719
Speaker 8: That's what the Cowboys got.

779
00:35:41,280 --> 00:35:44,080
Speaker 3: Who is who is your preseason rookie of the year

780
00:35:44,600 --> 00:35:46,320
Speaker 3: out of this draft class? Who do you feel like

781
00:35:46,360 --> 00:35:49,240
Speaker 3: makes the biggest impact in year one specifically?

782
00:35:50,239 --> 00:35:53,680
Speaker 7: Oh man, that's tough. I'd still go. I think you

783
00:35:53,800 --> 00:35:55,440
Speaker 7: gotta go with Mazie for me.

784
00:35:55,760 --> 00:35:58,840
Speaker 2: You know, I do think I think scoonmakers in the conversation.

785
00:35:58,960 --> 00:36:01,600
Speaker 6: Yeah, he's in the conversation for sure, But I do

786
00:36:01,800 --> 00:36:04,880
Speaker 6: think Mozzie's a guy that they just He's got a

787
00:36:05,040 --> 00:36:07,560
Speaker 6: unique skill set that they haven't had here. I mean,

788
00:36:07,600 --> 00:36:10,480
Speaker 6: I know you got Jonathan Hankins, but Mozzie's a better athlete.

789
00:36:11,080 --> 00:36:13,800
Speaker 6: And I think early on, I mean, they've shown that

790
00:36:13,920 --> 00:36:16,000
Speaker 6: they can kind of ease in some of these rookies

791
00:36:16,040 --> 00:36:18,279
Speaker 6: at times, Like Deron Bland played at the back half

792
00:36:18,280 --> 00:36:21,960
Speaker 6: of last year. Dude injury really stepped up, was fantastic.

793
00:36:22,400 --> 00:36:24,759
Speaker 6: I think you'll see that with guys like Overshown. I

794
00:36:24,840 --> 00:36:27,160
Speaker 6: don't know how much run they're going to get immediately,

795
00:36:27,640 --> 00:36:30,279
Speaker 6: and maybe they see more reps later. But Mozzie's a

796
00:36:30,320 --> 00:36:32,279
Speaker 6: guy I know, it's low hanging fruit, right, He's their

797
00:36:32,320 --> 00:36:34,960
Speaker 6: first round pick. The expectations are higher, but I just

798
00:36:35,040 --> 00:36:37,200
Speaker 6: think the impact he's going to have and some of

799
00:36:37,239 --> 00:36:39,480
Speaker 6: it's not Hey, don't look at the box score when

800
00:36:39,520 --> 00:36:41,360
Speaker 6: it comes to Mozzie and the impact he's having on

801
00:36:41,400 --> 00:36:41,640
Speaker 6: the game.

802
00:36:41,760 --> 00:36:45,600
Speaker 8: That's where this is not a stats draft, in my

803
00:36:45,680 --> 00:36:48,239
Speaker 8: opinion of not a sexy pick. This is not the

804
00:36:48,320 --> 00:36:50,640
Speaker 8: stats draft. I know people out there freaking out for

805
00:36:50,760 --> 00:36:53,600
Speaker 8: me saying that I eat it. But you know what, though,

806
00:36:53,760 --> 00:36:56,040
Speaker 8: for what they're doing, I think Duce Fawn's going to

807
00:36:56,120 --> 00:36:59,400
Speaker 8: be the one. I well, I'm just you need to

808
00:36:59,480 --> 00:37:00,120
Speaker 8: jump in there.

809
00:37:00,200 --> 00:37:02,840
Speaker 2: You know what I mean, you're wearing the purple.

810
00:37:03,440 --> 00:37:05,480
Speaker 8: Don't let me don't know wildcats. I don't let me

811
00:37:05,560 --> 00:37:07,960
Speaker 8: do that to you. But you know, see that's the

812
00:37:08,080 --> 00:37:10,759
Speaker 8: thing with Deuce. I you know what, if this was

813
00:37:10,840 --> 00:37:15,480
Speaker 8: the old Kellen Moore regime, I probably wouldn't say Douce Van.

814
00:37:15,920 --> 00:37:17,359
Speaker 8: I probably wouldn't say and I don't know if they

815
00:37:17,360 --> 00:37:19,879
Speaker 8: would take Duzvon if Kellen Moore was still here.

816
00:37:20,480 --> 00:37:21,799
Speaker 2: But I do know this though.

817
00:37:22,239 --> 00:37:25,120
Speaker 8: I think Brian Schottenheimer has watched and this is the

818
00:37:25,280 --> 00:37:27,360
Speaker 8: thing that you have to hope if you're a Cowboy

819
00:37:27,480 --> 00:37:30,759
Speaker 8: fan that the year that Brian Schottenheimer worked on the

820
00:37:30,880 --> 00:37:33,200
Speaker 8: defensive side of the ball with Dan Quinn and all

821
00:37:33,239 --> 00:37:38,280
Speaker 8: these guys that watching opponents tape, always breaking down the opponents,

822
00:37:38,560 --> 00:37:43,120
Speaker 8: watching the Philadelphia Eagles, watching the Rant, watching these opponents

823
00:37:43,160 --> 00:37:46,040
Speaker 8: that the Cowboys had last year. You would hope that

824
00:37:46,239 --> 00:37:49,840
Speaker 8: maybe that Schottenheimer stole some ideas along the way. The

825
00:37:50,000 --> 00:37:53,160
Speaker 8: good ones have the good ones. I've been around Andy Reid,

826
00:37:53,760 --> 00:37:57,359
Speaker 8: John Gruden, the really good Sean Payton, the really good

827
00:37:57,440 --> 00:37:58,880
Speaker 8: play callers. They steal.

828
00:37:59,080 --> 00:38:02,080
Speaker 7: Hey, Andy did in the Super Bowl he steals two touchdowns.

829
00:38:02,120 --> 00:38:06,400
Speaker 8: You steal, you steal from other coordinators, you know, And

830
00:38:06,520 --> 00:38:08,279
Speaker 8: like we're talked about, we were laughing about, you know,

831
00:38:08,400 --> 00:38:10,880
Speaker 8: if we could get the screen game going, steal a

832
00:38:11,040 --> 00:38:14,719
Speaker 8: screen package from somebody, yep, whoever it is. And that's

833
00:38:14,760 --> 00:38:17,120
Speaker 8: how you get Deuce Fahne involved, you know, That's how

834
00:38:17,160 --> 00:38:20,200
Speaker 8: you get him involved on the outside with the screens

835
00:38:20,400 --> 00:38:23,000
Speaker 8: or routes up the field, or wheel him or put

836
00:38:23,080 --> 00:38:25,760
Speaker 8: him on a linebacker and let him run those smash

837
00:38:25,880 --> 00:38:28,879
Speaker 8: routes where he's flying inside. Also he plants boomies back

838
00:38:28,920 --> 00:38:31,600
Speaker 8: to the outside. If I'm Brian Schottenheimer and we go

839
00:38:31,719 --> 00:38:35,840
Speaker 8: through this whole season, and guys like Deuce Vaughan and

840
00:38:37,120 --> 00:38:41,759
Speaker 8: Gallop and Lamb and and Ferguson and all those guys

841
00:38:41,840 --> 00:38:45,880
Speaker 8: don't get used Pollard, then they need to look at

842
00:38:45,920 --> 00:38:47,320
Speaker 8: something else here. It wasn't that.

843
00:38:47,680 --> 00:38:51,560
Speaker 6: I think Schottenheimer also, you know, with his dad having

844
00:38:51,719 --> 00:38:54,240
Speaker 6: darren Sprolls and he was with him there in San Diego.

845
00:38:54,360 --> 00:38:55,960
Speaker 6: So they've got a little bit of an idea of

846
00:38:56,080 --> 00:38:59,440
Speaker 6: how to use a smaller bag. And again we might

847
00:38:59,480 --> 00:39:01,560
Speaker 6: need to reth the smaller back thing. You know, I

848
00:39:01,600 --> 00:39:03,880
Speaker 6: talked about it on the draft day, but when they

849
00:39:03,960 --> 00:39:07,120
Speaker 6: show the graphic of the small running backs, every single

850
00:39:07,200 --> 00:39:09,040
Speaker 6: one of those guys have come into the NFL and

851
00:39:09,160 --> 00:39:10,279
Speaker 6: been done productive.

852
00:39:10,880 --> 00:39:11,040
Speaker 10: Yep.

853
00:39:11,160 --> 00:39:13,720
Speaker 4: No, And you mentioned I think that Duce Vaughn could change.

854
00:39:14,600 --> 00:39:17,520
Speaker 4: He's such a change of pace for the offense that

855
00:39:17,640 --> 00:39:17,840
Speaker 4: if you.

856
00:39:17,960 --> 00:39:21,000
Speaker 5: Need a big play he might be the guy. He

857
00:39:21,160 --> 00:39:24,160
Speaker 5: might be the guy. And also too, it's just the backfield.

858
00:39:24,200 --> 00:39:26,719
Speaker 4: The cowboy's backfield is interesting right now when you start

859
00:39:26,760 --> 00:39:29,000
Speaker 4: looking at the running back position, even like I mentioned,

860
00:39:29,080 --> 00:39:31,719
Speaker 4: we have Hunter Lipke. If you're going to add him

861
00:39:31,760 --> 00:39:34,040
Speaker 4: to that, you start to me, I'm starting to get

862
00:39:34,040 --> 00:39:37,080
Speaker 4: a vision of they want a power run sometimes, but

863
00:39:37,200 --> 00:39:38,440
Speaker 4: they want to make you pay.

864
00:39:38,640 --> 00:39:39,400
Speaker 5: In the open field.

865
00:39:39,480 --> 00:39:40,799
Speaker 8: Well, we'll see what Jones does too.

866
00:39:41,000 --> 00:39:43,399
Speaker 5: Yeah, absolutely, we'll see what he gets to do as well.

867
00:39:43,520 --> 00:39:46,279
Speaker 4: But with duce Vaughn, I was watching him last night

868
00:39:46,320 --> 00:39:48,440
Speaker 4: and I was trying to figure out, like why so

869
00:39:48,560 --> 00:39:51,480
Speaker 4: many people mistackles on him, and it's it came to

870
00:39:51,600 --> 00:39:53,880
Speaker 4: me that it's similar to how we talked about the

871
00:39:53,960 --> 00:39:57,560
Speaker 4: two back system, right when Zeke goes in then and

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Speaker 4: then Tony goes in the next play. The line and

873
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Speaker 4: backers are used to certain angles. They're used to tackling

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Speaker 4: guys at a certain height, you know, the center. Well,

875
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Speaker 4: imagine being a guy that's trying to form tackle and

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Speaker 4: this guy's like five inches shorter than what you are

877
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Speaker 4: even accustomed.

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Speaker 5: To do in your body.

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Speaker 8: What is it the muscle?

880
00:40:15,560 --> 00:40:15,960
Speaker 5: The muscle?

881
00:40:16,200 --> 00:40:18,400
Speaker 4: Then you need to go get him there the muscle memory.

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Speaker 4: And I really think that his his center of gravity,

883
00:40:21,120 --> 00:40:23,160
Speaker 4: and he's so low to the ground. I think it's

884
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Speaker 4: difficult for people to get their hands on them and

885
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Speaker 4: tackle him as they would tackle any other player.

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Speaker 8: The problem is defenders play with their eyes. You can't

887
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Speaker 8: see him, you know, all of a sudden, you're fighting blocks,

888
00:40:35,480 --> 00:40:38,320
Speaker 8: fighting blocks and you there he is, and now you

889
00:40:38,520 --> 00:40:40,920
Speaker 8: have to buy you well, he's there. Maybe he's at

890
00:40:41,000 --> 00:40:43,440
Speaker 8: you where you can try and reach, but you you're

891
00:40:43,480 --> 00:40:45,640
Speaker 8: not in position to bring him down because you can't

892
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Speaker 8: find it.

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Speaker 3: It's like Turpin has a returner. Yeah, same sort of deal,

894
00:40:48,840 --> 00:40:51,000
Speaker 3: where he's kind of behind all of the big six

895
00:40:51,080 --> 00:40:53,839
Speaker 3: foot three, six foot four guys that are blocking in front.

896
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Speaker 3: It's pretty clear who the fan favorite is going to be.

897
00:40:56,520 --> 00:40:58,840
Speaker 5: That's not even a que thinking of is there some

898
00:40:58,960 --> 00:40:59,759
Speaker 5: competition there?

899
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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 5: So absolutely as a returner, there's some competition.

901
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Speaker 8: Oh yeah, Well the thing about it is, I'm now

902
00:41:05,560 --> 00:41:08,520
Speaker 8: once again I'm interested to see because I'm the guy

903
00:41:08,600 --> 00:41:12,080
Speaker 8: that went on all these platforms and said after the

904
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Speaker 8: Green Bay game, after they go to the by, they're

905
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Speaker 8: going to figure out some packages, you know that we're

906
00:41:17,200 --> 00:41:19,680
Speaker 8: gonna figure out some packages, you know, for Turping, And

907
00:41:19,760 --> 00:41:22,640
Speaker 8: they didn't never know they got to never figured out

908
00:41:23,000 --> 00:41:25,640
Speaker 8: one single package right for him.

909
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Speaker 2: Who's going to bring the value to the offensive side.

910
00:41:27,920 --> 00:41:29,840
Speaker 2: That's gonna who's that's who your returners.

911
00:41:29,880 --> 00:41:32,040
Speaker 8: Shame on these coaches if they don't use these players

912
00:41:32,120 --> 00:41:34,160
Speaker 8: like they do on defense, completely, shame on.

913
00:41:34,480 --> 00:41:37,440
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's gonna be that's the douce bond part of

914
00:41:37,520 --> 00:41:38,280
Speaker 4: things is important.

915
00:41:38,400 --> 00:41:40,000
Speaker 2: Excuse me excited for training camp.

916
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Speaker 6: These battles between all these people, well, the tight end,

917
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Speaker 6: the tight end battle is going to be fun.

918
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Speaker 2: That will be fun.

919
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Speaker 8: Do you need a break?

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00:41:47,680 --> 00:41:50,000
Speaker 2: Nah, let's go, no break, Let's get the oxnards. Let's

921
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Speaker 2: make it happen. All right.

922
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Speaker 3: When we come back, we'll do some twitter on this

923
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Speaker 3: twenty we'll answer some questions, and we'll wrap things up

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Speaker 3: It's our final segment of the twenty twenty three NFL Draft.

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Speaker 2: It's bittersweet.

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Speaker 8: Or just bitter.

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Speaker 2: We could say it's just better, but it is our

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Speaker 2: final chance to answer some questions for Twitter on the.

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Speaker 3: A forty five, because I actually the heads up on

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Speaker 3: that one. My brother, I mean, I tease to go

973
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Speaker 3: on the break.

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Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, I was talking to you.

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Speaker 8: I don't blame you, man. I don't listen to the

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Speaker 8: show either.

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Speaker 14: Uh.

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Speaker 3: Steven asked, could you guys give your early May projected

979
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Speaker 3: starting offensive line?

980
00:44:47,760 --> 00:44:49,520
Speaker 2: Five on the offensive line?

981
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Speaker 8: Good luck? I think I think the law of Smith

982
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Speaker 8: and Smith on the left side, Smith, Tyler Smith, the Otish,

983
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Speaker 8: Martin Steele, I would be mine.

984
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Speaker 2: I would agree with that completely.

985
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Speaker 6: Tyler oh Beyondish Martin Steele and Tyron Smith is your

986
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Speaker 6: swing tackle. Tyron is your swing tackle if healthy. Maybe

987
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Speaker 6: they try and plug him in there somewhere, but I'm

988
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Speaker 6: I'm not sure.

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Speaker 8: Okay.

990
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Speaker 5: I think that's how it starts, and that's how I finished.

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Speaker 10: Good.

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00:45:21,440 --> 00:45:22,879
Speaker 5: I think that's how it starts.

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Speaker 15: With Is that that on on social media how it starts? No,

994
00:45:28,520 --> 00:45:33,400
Speaker 15: I agree Brian, Brian's getting this social media started before

995
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Speaker 15: and after.

996
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Speaker 5: I do think that's the best. That's the best units

997
00:45:36,760 --> 00:45:41,040
Speaker 5: you have. But depending on depending on your left tackle,

998
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Speaker 5: it might end up.

999
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Speaker 7: But I'd love Tyron could stay healthy.

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Speaker 5: It's so high on.

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Speaker 4: They don't get it twisted. I watched some of some

1002
00:45:49,080 --> 00:45:50,960
Speaker 4: of what he Doga can do in the run game.

1003
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Speaker 4: He's a far better run blocker than he is past blocker.

1004
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Speaker 4: So it's contradictory.

1005
00:45:55,000 --> 00:45:56,799
Speaker 5: It's like, what what do you want?

1006
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Speaker 6: And McCarthy's been run the ball, run the ball, run

1007
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Speaker 6: the ball, and well, I mean, look his mantras A

1008
00:46:04,480 --> 00:46:07,120
Speaker 6: play caller has been passed heavy. So it's kind of like,

1009
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Speaker 6: I'll believe it when I see it if he's going

1010
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Speaker 6: to dial up all these runs. But that's what they're

1011
00:46:10,960 --> 00:46:11,920
Speaker 6: trying to focus on here.

1012
00:46:11,960 --> 00:46:14,720
Speaker 4: It seems see maybe running the ball ain't just running

1013
00:46:14,760 --> 00:46:17,319
Speaker 4: the ball out of four I maybe running the ball

1014
00:46:17,520 --> 00:46:19,920
Speaker 4: is like we talked about getting guys in space.

1015
00:46:20,000 --> 00:46:22,040
Speaker 5: There's different types of runs there is.

1016
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Speaker 8: People were asking me about Dalton Reisner.

1017
00:46:25,200 --> 00:46:27,560
Speaker 6: I was always coming out of Case State. He's been

1018
00:46:27,560 --> 00:46:29,400
Speaker 6: in Denver, Bronco. We've gotten to have him on the

1019
00:46:29,440 --> 00:46:29,919
Speaker 6: show once.

1020
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Speaker 2: I like him.

1021
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Speaker 7: He's a good player.

1022
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Speaker 2: Yeah.

1023
00:46:31,520 --> 00:46:34,160
Speaker 8: My gang of seven was saying, descending player a grinded

1024
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Speaker 8: out short range players, slow feet, slow on the move,

1025
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Speaker 8: struggles to bend. Who has to win with hand you

1026
00:46:40,239 --> 00:46:43,520
Speaker 8: short area and with his toughness. Yeah, that's kind of

1027
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Speaker 8: And then and then another guy did say that he

1028
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Speaker 8: was surprised still available. Not sure why didn't have a

1029
00:46:49,960 --> 00:46:52,840
Speaker 8: great year last year. Still young low end startered a

1030
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Speaker 8: strong backup Dalton Reisner. He's a guy that's on the

1031
00:46:56,120 --> 00:46:58,279
Speaker 8: street right now. If that would guard people are asking

1032
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Speaker 8: about it a depth piece. So you guys, when when

1033
00:47:01,320 --> 00:47:03,160
Speaker 8: people ask about it, no, that's what I did, So

1034
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Speaker 8: just tell people that watch the draft, you have to

1035
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Speaker 8: watch the draft show. A lot of questions about him.

1036
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Speaker 8: Always helped undrafted free agents. This's gonna be up for

1037
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Speaker 8: a year.

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Speaker 3: So, uh, undrafted free agents that were brought in. Who

1039
00:47:17,120 --> 00:47:18,479
Speaker 3: was the highest grade on your.

1040
00:47:18,480 --> 00:47:21,440
Speaker 2: Draft board and how do you feel like they fit

1041
00:47:21,520 --> 00:47:22,080
Speaker 2: in with the team.

1042
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Speaker 6: Oh, Darrell Johnson for sure was the highest, the high

1043
00:47:24,960 --> 00:47:27,080
Speaker 6: at of Liberty. And I mean we we did talk

1044
00:47:27,080 --> 00:47:28,799
Speaker 6: about him during the drafts. We were wondering, like, hey,

1045
00:47:28,840 --> 00:47:30,839
Speaker 6: could he be the guy with that seventh round pick?

1046
00:47:31,600 --> 00:47:34,239
Speaker 6: But he he's really good. I mean, he can chase

1047
00:47:34,280 --> 00:47:37,239
Speaker 6: down plays from the backside, big guy, big frame, you know,

1048
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Speaker 6: I like I like his makeup. I think he can

1049
00:47:39,160 --> 00:47:41,680
Speaker 6: probably put up put on some muscle because he's got

1050
00:47:41,719 --> 00:47:42,720
Speaker 6: that lanky build.

1051
00:47:43,080 --> 00:47:45,480
Speaker 7: But he's just got really good play strength. He's got

1052
00:47:45,520 --> 00:47:46,359
Speaker 7: a feel for the game.

1053
00:47:46,840 --> 00:47:48,600
Speaker 6: You know, you don't see him make as many plays

1054
00:47:48,640 --> 00:47:50,640
Speaker 6: for me in the run game, but as a pass rusher,

1055
00:47:50,920 --> 00:47:53,520
Speaker 6: I thought there was a lot to like. He times

1056
00:47:53,600 --> 00:47:56,600
Speaker 6: the snap, well, he's a good athlete. He'll fact fight

1057
00:47:56,719 --> 00:47:59,400
Speaker 6: through blocks, can chase down plays on the backside, splits

1058
00:47:59,440 --> 00:48:03,000
Speaker 6: through the arden, center well the garden and tackle well

1059
00:48:03,239 --> 00:48:04,320
Speaker 6: you know, and he's very alert.

1060
00:48:04,400 --> 00:48:04,520
Speaker 8: You know.

1061
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Speaker 6: I think that his football, like housteemed really high. And

1062
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Speaker 6: if you watch him against the bigger competition, Liberty played

1063
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Speaker 6: some good.

1064
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Speaker 7: Football, but he'st Arkansas.

1065
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Speaker 14: Yep.

1066
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Speaker 2: He freaking dominated that game. Yep, he did.

1067
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Speaker 8: My guy is Tyris Wheat from Mississippi State six two

1068
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Speaker 8: two sixty three. He was player one point thirty two

1069
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Speaker 8: on my board. Wow, and so that's real high. That

1070
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Speaker 8: was really high. And so he was the one that

1071
00:48:27,120 --> 00:48:29,080
Speaker 8: when you know, when you watched him play at State

1072
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Speaker 8: and they list him as a linebacker, and I wonder

1073
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Speaker 8: if they're going to try and like uh uh, they're

1074
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Speaker 8: going to try and take some weight off him and

1075
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Speaker 8: make him a linebacker. But he's an edge rusher for

1076
00:48:37,640 --> 00:48:40,480
Speaker 8: Mississippi State. He's a guy that does a really good

1077
00:48:40,560 --> 00:48:43,200
Speaker 8: job of like he can get up the field. Like

1078
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Speaker 8: the change of direction probably isn't uh you know, is

1079
00:48:46,840 --> 00:48:49,560
Speaker 8: it like elite by any means. But when you when

1080
00:48:49,640 --> 00:48:52,320
Speaker 8: he gets to the corner and gets to the shoulder,

1081
00:48:52,719 --> 00:48:55,640
Speaker 8: he's going to dip underneath the blocker and he's going

1082
00:48:55,719 --> 00:48:58,040
Speaker 8: to get on top of the quarterback they try and

1083
00:48:58,160 --> 00:48:59,560
Speaker 8: run the ball at him. I think he does a

1084
00:48:59,560 --> 00:49:01,680
Speaker 8: great job of holding the point of attack. He's a

1085
00:49:01,719 --> 00:49:03,319
Speaker 8: little bit of an older guy. He's a fifth year

1086
00:49:03,480 --> 00:49:08,000
Speaker 8: senior from Mississippi State. And then so he wears a

1087
00:49:08,080 --> 00:49:10,440
Speaker 8: single digit, so he kind of this big guy with

1088
00:49:10,520 --> 00:49:13,080
Speaker 8: a single digit thing. It always looks kind of funny.

1089
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Speaker 8: But but tires Weed is a guy that man and

1090
00:49:16,480 --> 00:49:20,040
Speaker 8: I know for a fact these are these are guys,

1091
00:49:20,160 --> 00:49:23,160
Speaker 8: the tires Wheeds and the Johnson's and guys. These are

1092
00:49:23,200 --> 00:49:26,760
Speaker 8: guys that had draftable grades. These are the first guys

1093
00:49:26,880 --> 00:49:30,000
Speaker 8: that the Cowboys always go after. They go after the

1094
00:49:30,080 --> 00:49:32,560
Speaker 8: guys that are still on their draft board, and then

1095
00:49:32,600 --> 00:49:34,320
Speaker 8: they work down from there. But I know for a

1096
00:49:34,400 --> 00:49:37,880
Speaker 8: fact that we Johnson those guys were sitting pretty nicely

1097
00:49:37,960 --> 00:49:39,440
Speaker 8: on their board. They just didn't get a chance to

1098
00:49:39,560 --> 00:49:42,480
Speaker 8: draft him. But keep an eye on tires Wheat from

1099
00:49:42,480 --> 00:49:45,239
Speaker 8: Mississippi State. He's got he's got something to his game.

1100
00:49:45,440 --> 00:49:47,799
Speaker 4: Barncles, I can't find my notes on TJ.

1101
00:49:47,960 --> 00:49:48,240
Speaker 8: Best.

1102
00:49:48,680 --> 00:49:49,200
Speaker 2: That's my guy.

1103
00:49:49,960 --> 00:49:50,320
Speaker 8: I got you.

1104
00:49:50,440 --> 00:49:53,200
Speaker 2: I'll pick you up, okay. So I had him as

1105
00:49:53,239 --> 00:49:57,120
Speaker 2: a yes did you did you do?

1106
00:49:57,200 --> 00:49:58,240
Speaker 8: The Florida and kidneys?

1107
00:49:59,200 --> 00:50:01,600
Speaker 7: They like land so like isaiahen So TJ.

1108
00:50:01,800 --> 00:50:04,480
Speaker 2: Bass I had him as a as a fifth round grade.

1109
00:50:04,760 --> 00:50:05,680
Speaker 2: I liked him a lot.

1110
00:50:05,840 --> 00:50:08,719
Speaker 3: He was one seventy seven for me. I like the

1111
00:50:08,800 --> 00:50:11,279
Speaker 3: way that that he keeps his pad level low. He's

1112
00:50:11,400 --> 00:50:14,120
Speaker 3: very compact. That's kind of a knock against this game.

1113
00:50:14,120 --> 00:50:17,120
Speaker 3: He's got shorter arm, small torsto, longer legs, though he's

1114
00:50:17,160 --> 00:50:19,040
Speaker 3: got some link to his lower body.

1115
00:50:19,880 --> 00:50:23,160
Speaker 2: Effort level is exceptionally high. I mean he is a maller.

1116
00:50:23,239 --> 00:50:25,160
Speaker 2: He's kind of like what we talked about with Fojoco.

1117
00:50:25,560 --> 00:50:28,400
Speaker 2: The motor is there. You can't teach that. He looks

1118
00:50:28,480 --> 00:50:29,799
Speaker 2: for work. His eyes are up.

1119
00:50:29,880 --> 00:50:32,760
Speaker 3: He's around looking for people that are unblocked on every

1120
00:50:32,880 --> 00:50:36,000
Speaker 3: single play, hard hitter when he squares up too. He's

1121
00:50:36,000 --> 00:50:38,640
Speaker 3: got some power and power in that compact upper body.

1122
00:50:39,480 --> 00:50:42,560
Speaker 3: There are some times when he wastes movement when he's

1123
00:50:42,600 --> 00:50:45,320
Speaker 3: trying to plant. He doesn't have the right hand placement

1124
00:50:45,680 --> 00:50:48,400
Speaker 3: on a couple of occasions, but he had plenty of production.

1125
00:50:48,480 --> 00:50:51,160
Speaker 3: He was a transfer from Idaho before going to Oregon

1126
00:50:51,520 --> 00:50:54,600
Speaker 3: and starting at guard and then he switched out the

1127
00:50:54,719 --> 00:50:57,840
Speaker 3: left tackle. He was better at guard, but then he

1128
00:50:57,960 --> 00:51:00,759
Speaker 3: was a second team All American at left tackle, which

1129
00:51:00,840 --> 00:51:02,799
Speaker 3: is weird to say, but his film was much better

1130
00:51:02,880 --> 00:51:05,719
Speaker 3: at Guard. I watched him against Washington, Stanford and b

1131
00:51:06,000 --> 00:51:09,879
Speaker 3: y U initially, but then when Dame Brugler's Beast came out,

1132
00:51:10,160 --> 00:51:14,000
Speaker 3: he said he struggled against Georgia, and he struggled.

1133
00:51:13,520 --> 00:51:18,640
Speaker 8: With a lot of people struggled, except right from Tennessee didn't.

1134
00:51:19,480 --> 00:51:22,080
Speaker 3: And he said that he struggled against Washington. I thought

1135
00:51:22,120 --> 00:51:24,400
Speaker 3: he was okay against Washington, held his own, but against

1136
00:51:24,400 --> 00:51:27,640
Speaker 3: those athletics, those aggressive edge rushers, he had some trouble.

1137
00:51:27,680 --> 00:51:28,960
Speaker 2: And I think the link was a big poo.

1138
00:51:29,600 --> 00:51:32,080
Speaker 6: It's a big name to know as well though, because

1139
00:51:32,080 --> 00:51:34,320
Speaker 6: we were wondering what were they doing at Guard, you know?

1140
00:51:34,360 --> 00:51:34,759
Speaker 14: And t J.

1141
00:51:34,920 --> 00:51:37,319
Speaker 6: Bass is a guy that as an undrafted player, he's

1142
00:51:37,360 --> 00:51:40,080
Speaker 6: got a change, maybe make the team against Georgia. See

1143
00:51:40,120 --> 00:51:45,080
Speaker 6: that's not too bad, right, He just flatten. I didn't

1144
00:51:45,120 --> 00:51:46,759
Speaker 6: like him as much as at Cody malk at a

1145
00:51:46,800 --> 00:51:49,480
Speaker 6: North Dakota State, but the play temperament was somewhat similar.

1146
00:51:50,320 --> 00:51:52,640
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's similar, and he I think he has you

1147
00:51:52,880 --> 00:51:54,960
Speaker 4: I think, did you mentioned awareness from him?

1148
00:51:55,680 --> 00:51:57,480
Speaker 6: I did when it came to Derell Johnson, But you're right,

1149
00:51:57,680 --> 00:51:59,759
Speaker 6: I mean, and Kyle was alluding to that too. He

1150
00:52:00,360 --> 00:52:03,160
Speaker 6: always eyes up he's looking, he's aware, he knows what's

1151
00:52:03,160 --> 00:52:03,480
Speaker 6: going on.

1152
00:52:03,760 --> 00:52:04,960
Speaker 2: I like this tape a lot.

1153
00:52:05,080 --> 00:52:07,560
Speaker 3: And when they brought him in as an undrafted free agent,

1154
00:52:07,600 --> 00:52:09,560
Speaker 3: he was the top man on my board. What did

1155
00:52:09,600 --> 00:52:10,600
Speaker 3: you think about Isaiah Lamb.

1156
00:52:11,760 --> 00:52:15,240
Speaker 4: Yeah, so this dude is just he looks he looks

1157
00:52:15,320 --> 00:52:18,360
Speaker 4: like a d N man like he's so bendy, just

1158
00:52:18,440 --> 00:52:20,880
Speaker 4: has instincts on how to get to the ball. I

1159
00:52:20,920 --> 00:52:24,480
Speaker 4: think the biggest thing for him is the run game.

1160
00:52:24,640 --> 00:52:26,400
Speaker 4: I think that's one of the biggest things. It's just

1161
00:52:26,680 --> 00:52:29,040
Speaker 4: him getting at I don't I think he has the

1162
00:52:29,120 --> 00:52:31,759
Speaker 4: size to play d N but to stick his nose

1163
00:52:31,800 --> 00:52:33,440
Speaker 4: in the run game and get a little bit more active.

1164
00:52:33,440 --> 00:52:35,600
Speaker 4: But he's just such a freak off the line. Dude

1165
00:52:35,800 --> 00:52:38,560
Speaker 4: just knows how to get to the quarterback. He naturally

1166
00:52:38,719 --> 00:52:41,719
Speaker 4: gets to the quarterback. But the bend and the athleticism

1167
00:52:41,800 --> 00:52:44,360
Speaker 4: is there for six forty And the thing is is

1168
00:52:44,440 --> 00:52:46,880
Speaker 4: that he has been in strength and I think that

1169
00:52:47,000 --> 00:52:49,880
Speaker 4: that is what changes things a little bit. The conversation

1170
00:52:50,040 --> 00:52:53,080
Speaker 4: about what he could be. When they picked him up

1171
00:52:53,080 --> 00:52:54,120
Speaker 4: as an undrafted free agent.

1172
00:52:54,160 --> 00:52:59,879
Speaker 5: I was upstairs and I saw it and I was like, yes,

1173
00:53:00,080 --> 00:53:01,000
Speaker 5: because I think with.

1174
00:53:01,080 --> 00:53:03,839
Speaker 4: The proper coaching, this guy could really become a guy.

1175
00:53:03,920 --> 00:53:05,840
Speaker 4: And don't get it twisted. When he entered the portal,

1176
00:53:06,120 --> 00:53:08,920
Speaker 4: Georgia wanted him, Like there's there are some teams that

1177
00:53:09,040 --> 00:53:12,080
Speaker 4: were really interested in this player and his development. So

1178
00:53:12,440 --> 00:53:14,800
Speaker 4: I think you could be getting a legit pass rusher

1179
00:53:14,880 --> 00:53:17,399
Speaker 4: that can make a difference as he develops in this league.

1180
00:53:17,480 --> 00:53:20,719
Speaker 4: So the bend for me, and the way he can

1181
00:53:20,800 --> 00:53:23,920
Speaker 4: just bend the corner and really put somebody and get vertical.

1182
00:53:25,520 --> 00:53:28,040
Speaker 7: Yeah, he's got some violent intentions when he comes around

1183
00:53:28,040 --> 00:53:28,359
Speaker 7: that edge.

1184
00:53:28,920 --> 00:53:31,600
Speaker 4: The attitude we talked about it, man, like there's an

1185
00:53:31,800 --> 00:53:34,720
Speaker 4: edginess to so many of these guys that they're bringing

1186
00:53:34,840 --> 00:53:38,799
Speaker 4: in here. Motor effort and are they a little disrespectful

1187
00:53:38,840 --> 00:53:41,600
Speaker 4: when they out there? Yeah, like these are tome setters,

1188
00:53:41,680 --> 00:53:44,040
Speaker 4: a lot of these defensive players they're bringing in. But

1189
00:53:44,160 --> 00:53:46,160
Speaker 4: like I said, I mean three hundred and seventy five inch,

1190
00:53:46,400 --> 00:53:49,479
Speaker 4: like the dudes not know we do. Despite what people

1191
00:53:49,520 --> 00:53:52,399
Speaker 4: think about his frame, he's very lean, very very very lean.

1192
00:53:52,680 --> 00:53:54,160
Speaker 5: I think if you want him to be better than

1193
00:53:54,200 --> 00:53:54,520
Speaker 5: the run.

1194
00:53:54,440 --> 00:53:56,160
Speaker 4: Game, he could put on a lidded with more side,

1195
00:53:56,440 --> 00:53:57,120
Speaker 4: But you don't want.

1196
00:53:57,040 --> 00:53:59,960
Speaker 5: To take away from the speed. The speed that exists

1197
00:54:00,120 --> 00:54:03,520
Speaker 5: there and he just he just gets there. Look, he

1198
00:54:03,760 --> 00:54:06,239
Speaker 5: just gets there. He's a nuisance I think for a

1199
00:54:06,320 --> 00:54:08,040
Speaker 5: lot of tackles because he does not stop.

1200
00:54:08,400 --> 00:54:09,920
Speaker 2: I do want to give no no doubt.

1201
00:54:09,920 --> 00:54:11,440
Speaker 7: I do want to give some love to Hunter Lipkey.

1202
00:54:11,520 --> 00:54:14,919
Speaker 6: Though I know, Brian, you've talked about the shoulder, worried

1203
00:54:14,920 --> 00:54:16,480
Speaker 6: about it, a little bit about that, and I get

1204
00:54:16,520 --> 00:54:18,480
Speaker 6: that one hundred percent. And the thing is he is

1205
00:54:18,560 --> 00:54:20,759
Speaker 6: a projection. He's got the body type of a full back,

1206
00:54:20,840 --> 00:54:22,719
Speaker 6: but he played as the running back.

1207
00:54:22,760 --> 00:54:24,120
Speaker 8: The yeah, like a one back runner, right.

1208
00:54:24,200 --> 00:54:25,600
Speaker 2: But I saw him in North Dakota State.

1209
00:54:25,640 --> 00:54:27,480
Speaker 6: He was named the most Outstanding player in their twenty

1210
00:54:27,560 --> 00:54:31,360
Speaker 6: twenty two NCAA Championship game. But he's a no nonsense

1211
00:54:31,440 --> 00:54:34,080
Speaker 6: downhill runner that's lower in the shoulder, running through people.

1212
00:54:34,320 --> 00:54:36,560
Speaker 6: I thought he does a really nice job balancing, rolling

1213
00:54:36,640 --> 00:54:39,840
Speaker 6: off tacklers difficult to bring down. Can be used in

1214
00:54:39,920 --> 00:54:42,759
Speaker 6: the passing game, runs really good wheel routes, can be

1215
00:54:42,880 --> 00:54:46,239
Speaker 6: used in the flat soft hand. Shows off versatility, and

1216
00:54:46,280 --> 00:54:48,319
Speaker 6: he's sneaky quick, but he doesn't have a leap burst

1217
00:54:48,400 --> 00:54:51,040
Speaker 6: or speed by any means. He played some tight ends

1218
00:54:51,080 --> 00:54:53,480
Speaker 6: some even in the wildcat formation. They'll throw him in there,

1219
00:54:53,880 --> 00:54:56,480
Speaker 6: but his legs are always moving, which allows him to

1220
00:54:56,520 --> 00:54:58,960
Speaker 6: gain extra yards. He's always falling forward. I think he's

1221
00:54:59,080 --> 00:55:02,000
Speaker 6: immediately a special teams contributor. You know, his paddle level

1222
00:55:02,040 --> 00:55:05,200
Speaker 6: gets a little high sometimes, but when he does lower them,

1223
00:55:05,560 --> 00:55:07,759
Speaker 6: he turned out some really, really productive runs.

1224
00:55:07,960 --> 00:55:09,439
Speaker 2: He's a Swiss Army knife type.

1225
00:55:09,680 --> 00:55:12,120
Speaker 8: Now everybody's trying to find the next Kyle u Check.

1226
00:55:12,320 --> 00:55:14,360
Speaker 6: I don't think he's quite the athlete the Kyle you

1227
00:55:14,600 --> 00:55:16,480
Speaker 6: Check is, but he is a player that can be

1228
00:55:16,560 --> 00:55:18,040
Speaker 6: utilized in a lot of similar ways.

1229
00:55:18,320 --> 00:55:18,520
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1230
00:55:18,960 --> 00:55:21,040
Speaker 3: I talked to Linda Wells about him yesterday when we

1231
00:55:21,200 --> 00:55:22,560
Speaker 3: just kind of passed in the hallway and he.

1232
00:55:22,600 --> 00:55:23,719
Speaker 2: Said, h back.

1233
00:55:24,080 --> 00:55:26,160
Speaker 3: He said, expect him a little bit as that h

1234
00:55:26,280 --> 00:55:28,680
Speaker 3: back up back and somebody that they can run behind too,

1235
00:55:28,680 --> 00:55:30,960
Speaker 3: because he's a good blocker squares up well. But I

1236
00:55:31,080 --> 00:55:33,080
Speaker 3: agree with you in the receiving ability. I think that's

1237
00:55:33,120 --> 00:55:35,320
Speaker 3: the sneaky part about it. He may be in that

1238
00:55:35,440 --> 00:55:37,120
Speaker 3: tight end room more than he will be in the

1239
00:55:37,200 --> 00:55:39,360
Speaker 3: running back. Interesting, I think there's a chance that that

1240
00:55:39,440 --> 00:55:41,000
Speaker 3: possibly happens running behind.

1241
00:55:41,760 --> 00:55:45,520
Speaker 4: If you're running behind liftkey and scooon maker, Hey, what

1242
00:55:46,080 --> 00:55:46,920
Speaker 4: if your guard.

1243
00:55:46,800 --> 00:55:50,439
Speaker 2: Is you'll make it happy, You'll be okay.

1244
00:55:50,680 --> 00:55:51,759
Speaker 5: Yeah, but I don't know.

1245
00:55:51,840 --> 00:55:53,719
Speaker 4: I just feel like that gives me so much, so

1246
00:55:53,880 --> 00:55:56,880
Speaker 4: much information. They talked about twelve personnel and some of

1247
00:55:56,920 --> 00:55:59,080
Speaker 4: the things they want to do. Man, Like I think

1248
00:55:59,120 --> 00:56:00,920
Speaker 4: they do want to run the ball. I think they

1249
00:56:01,000 --> 00:56:03,800
Speaker 4: want to run the ball and create past and situation.

1250
00:56:03,920 --> 00:56:06,320
Speaker 8: Definitely, last name, Schottenneimer will tell you they want to

1251
00:56:06,360 --> 00:56:06,799
Speaker 8: run the stock.

1252
00:56:08,800 --> 00:56:10,160
Speaker 5: When I hear his name, That's what I'm saying.

1253
00:56:11,560 --> 00:56:11,680
Speaker 8: Now.

1254
00:56:12,360 --> 00:56:14,120
Speaker 3: I'm glad this is the last thing we're going to

1255
00:56:14,200 --> 00:56:16,320
Speaker 3: talk about on the Draft Show. Like, that's the lasting

1256
00:56:16,400 --> 00:56:19,760
Speaker 3: impact is Shotty shot shot Shotty. So that way, whenever

1257
00:56:19,920 --> 00:56:24,239
Speaker 3: everybody goes back and listen to Shorty Shorty, Shorty, all right,

1258
00:56:24,360 --> 00:56:26,160
Speaker 3: that does it for us on the Draft Show. Again,

1259
00:56:26,239 --> 00:56:28,360
Speaker 3: special thanks to everybody that had their hands on this

1260
00:56:28,560 --> 00:56:30,520
Speaker 3: throughout the entire draft process.

1261
00:56:30,680 --> 00:56:32,640
Speaker 2: It's been so much fun working with you guys. Again,

1262
00:56:32,760 --> 00:56:33,000
Speaker 2: thank you.

1263
00:56:33,239 --> 00:56:35,440
Speaker 8: It felt like a war room all year long. We

1264
00:56:35,560 --> 00:56:37,719
Speaker 8: had fun, bad fun putting together if two and I

1265
00:56:37,800 --> 00:56:39,960
Speaker 8: want to stay. Thanks to guys like Ed K. Hills

1266
00:56:40,000 --> 00:56:42,440
Speaker 8: and people like that, the Dame Buruglars, the others who

1267
00:56:42,480 --> 00:56:44,680
Speaker 8: have been a part of this thing. It seems to

1268
00:56:44,760 --> 00:56:47,200
Speaker 8: get better every year, and like I say, thank you

1269
00:56:47,320 --> 00:56:48,879
Speaker 8: for quarterback in this all years.

1270
00:56:49,000 --> 00:56:51,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, nothing else I'd rather do. I love the draft.

1271
00:56:51,600 --> 00:56:53,720
Speaker 2: I love looking at these prospects.

1272
00:56:53,280 --> 00:56:55,200
Speaker 3: And looking toward the future because next time we'll be

1273
00:56:55,280 --> 00:56:57,640
Speaker 3: on here, we'll know what happened with a lot of

1274
00:56:57,719 --> 00:56:59,239
Speaker 3: these guys, and that's going to be a ton of

1275
00:56:59,280 --> 00:57:03,240
Speaker 3: fun looking back on what we said and what we anticipated.

1276
00:57:03,560 --> 00:57:05,080
Speaker 3: And then, of course you gotta go play the games.

1277
00:57:05,120 --> 00:57:06,160
Speaker 3: You gotta go all out.

1278
00:57:06,160 --> 00:57:07,239
Speaker 2: There has to be a great gig.

1279
00:57:07,320 --> 00:57:09,560
Speaker 16: If you didn't have to play the game, That's true,

1280
00:57:09,600 --> 00:57:13,560
Speaker 16: we'd be right all the time, right, never exactly well

1281
00:57:13,760 --> 00:57:16,000
Speaker 16: special thanks to the fans out there too for sticking

1282
00:57:16,080 --> 00:57:17,920
Speaker 16: with us throughout the entire draft process.

1283
00:57:18,000 --> 00:57:18,720
Speaker 2: For Chris being.

1284
00:57:18,640 --> 00:57:22,200
Speaker 3: Brian brought us, Zach Wilt, Chuck, Ayisha Morrison, and Bobby Belt.

1285
00:57:22,240 --> 00:57:24,560
Speaker 2: I'm KYLEI Yemen saying so long, We'll see you next

1286
00:57:24,720 --> 00:57:26,000
Speaker 2: year on the Draft Show.

1287
00:57:26,880 --> 00:57:29,840
Speaker 1: This has been a production of Dallascowboys dot Com and

1288
00:57:30,040 --> 00:57:31,840
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